Beta 8.10 released

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Hello

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Cary Bielenberg <cary at bielenberg.id.au> wrote:

> From: Cary Bielenberg <cary at bielenberg.id.au>
> Subject: Re: Beta 8.10 released
> To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 11:32 PM
> Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> > excuse me that I'm posting again without being
> asked, but it's not matter of willing to change or not.
> >
> > It's matter of stability. I and I assume many
> people as I don't want to change to something that
> causes headake.
> >
> > This is the point, so until it's not stable I
> think kde3 should stay available somewhere and get updated,
> because there are still bugs.
> >
> > You're very pathetic about changes, may be you
> have time to play or masohistic pleasure to file bugs. 
> >
> > I don't! I wan't to keep the thing I am using
> to do my job the way it is. If its about playing I don't
> mind and really I have installed and still have kde4
> somewhere on my drives. It's simply not stable so that I
> can use it for serious work.
> >
> > Understand the point?
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Billie Erin Walsh
> <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> ]. The biggest 
> >> hurdle is peoples unwillingness to change. There
> are some
> >> out there that 
> >> think the CLI is the ONLY way to go. For them
> that's
> >> just fine. For 
> >> some, me included, KDE3.x was the cats meow.  In a
> couple
> >> years there 
> >> will be people that feel the same way about
> KDE4.x.
> >> That's how life is.
> >>
> >> If your a programmer type and don't like it,
> make your
> >> own. Perhaps your 
> >> will take over the Linux world.
> >>
> >> The only constant is change.
> >>
> >> Time wounds all heels.
> >>     
> >
> >
> >
> >       
> >
> >   
> 
> Can I put a different spin on this (excuse me if it has
> already been 
> said) Kubuntu is the poor brother to Ubuntu with very
> finite resources, 
> having the team support KDE3 past 8.04 is silly, yes some
> of us pine for 
> the old KDE but in the end any time devoted to keeping
> another system 
> going past Hardy just is way too much a drain on little
> resources we 
> have. I get frustrated at the length of time it takes to
> get patches & 
> new functionality into Kubuntu & any where we can
> lighten the load 
> should be explored. Dumping a 2nd UI I believe just makes
> sense.
> 

I've got your point. I also was not familiar with what exactly kubuntu is. I tought it's ubuntu with kde and equivalent to ubuntu (in all terms)

I've learned much more from this discussion and I want to say that I'm really disappointed, but I agree with you and appreciate what you do for populating linux.

Seems that we are missing kde driven project like ubuntu which can offer the stability needed for kde desktop 

kde 2 was ugly and unusable most of the time, kde 3.0-3.3 was something better then nightmare ... so lets see how long it'ss take for kde4 to get usable. I really believe that people learned from the past, but still to bring up a distro with something just nice is not enough.

regards

regards