Beta 8.10 released

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Thank you for the "must" response

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Myriam Schweingruber <schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch> wrote:

> Well, you _do_ know that the current Debian stable aka Etch
> is way
> behind 8.04, do you? Older kernel, older software, etc. And
> Nils is
> correct, the relevant parts of the Linux system will have
> security
> maintainance beyond 18 month, it's 3 years for the
> Desktop, and 5
> years on servers. Understand this well: security
> maintainance only,
> and paid support from Canonical during this time, but no
> upgrades or
> new package versions. Every other assumption on your behalf
> is wrong.

I _do_understand this pretty well. The thing is that I'm not running etch on the notebook but lenny. It works fine only kubuntu has better desktop configuration. That's the reason I give it a try last two weeks.

> ...
> 
> >> Make that 12 month, but anyway you can select
> another desktop with LTS
> >> support, i.e. Gnome or Xfce. Or if you really
> depend on
> >
> > this is not an option and it proves that I, as user,
> am being _forced_ to do something I don't want. This is
> not what I've expected by k/ubuntu.
> 
> No, you are not forced to do anything! Stop this
> disinformation,
> nobody forces you to update to 8.10. Why do you all behave
> as Kubuntu
> would _force_ you to do so? You people are free to use
> whatever you
> want, stay with Kubuntu LTS (which is 6.10 IIRC), it's
> at the same
> stage as Debian Etch, so you have stability for another 3
> years on
> servers where stability is a must.

What about LTS on current kubuntu??? I think you've missed something here. That's what I've been expecting and it turns to be not true.

> 
> Oh, and btw, KDE 3.x doesn't fall apart just because
> it's not
> developed anymore, it just will not evolve anymore.
> It's stable and if
> you want stability, stay with it!

Yes after discussing the topic with you I think I'll stick to lenny and stay there until it live cicle (as debian stable) ends. Because of the more comfortable kubuntu configuration I was hoping that kubuntu would have kde in this version for longer supported.

> 
> > Thanks Nils, this helps a lot to plan in the future
> and save time.
> > Debian will for sure put lenny in stable state
> somewhen, so I think this is the best choice for me.
> > The motivation to try kubuntu was because few desktop
> things are easily managed and I've expected the kubuntu
> people follow the debian scheme
> (stable/testing/unstable/experimental).
> 
> You have not read the documentation IMHO: A new branch is
> started from
> Debian Sid every 6 month and then worked upon during 6
> month to
> release as Ubuntu (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu, whatever).

NO I didn't read it, at least not the hole of it, sorry - can not read everything - have a job to do ;-) too
I remember I read about few years ago but then KDE had LTS didn't it?!

> Debian release cycle is supposed to be every 18 month, but
> the past
> has shown that this can be even way longer (remember
> Sarge?)

Yes I remember debian from potato

> 
> Well, don't assume things without documenting yourself
> correctly. Just
> my 2 cents...
> 

What are you refering to? didn't understand which assumption you mean. That debian will put lenny into stable?

I will be glad if it happens as later as possible :-) then I'll be able to use kde3 (that's doing perfect job for me) much longer.

regards