The fall of KDE?

[Steven Vollom]

Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 November 2008 23:20:50 Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>     
>>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Me too, Nepal.  But I just haven't taken the time to understand
>>>> Kwallet.  I just uninstalled it when I configured this installation.
>>>> But I think I want to know the benefit.  If it is just a bunch more
>>>> mouse clicks, I don't want it either.  If it requires a more secure
>>>> password to make it safer, I am not sure I want to have to type in an
>>>> increasingly more difficult password all the time.  I have one that is
>>>> 37 characters, all mixed up and senseless, but when I am in a hurry, I
>>>> make mistakes and have to reenter too many times.  Learning the
>>>> benefits
>>>>         
>>> Why do you think it would be more mouse clicks?
>>>
>>> KWallet is pretty simple.  Every KDE app that asks for a password should
>>> be able to use the wallet.  The first time in your KDE session that an
>>> app asks for a password, you will have to give kwallet's password -
>>> which can be as simple or difficult as you want.  Obviously, more complex
>>> is more secure.  After that, depending on configuration, it may never ask
>>> for the kwallet password again until you logoff again.  The wallet
>>> manager can be configured to close if nothing else is using it, in which
>>> case the next app to need it will have to ask your password again, or
>>> after a certain time, but in any case it will never ask for a password
>>> _more_ often than if you aren't using it - because it only asks when
>>> something else would have prompted you anyway, and not always then,
>>> either.
>>>       
>> OK.  If I use Kwallet.  It ask for the new password.  I place the
>> password in Kwallet.  Then later I enter an area that requires a
>> password.  Do I have to open Kwallet to be reminded what the password
>> is, then enter it, or when I enter the password protected site Kwallet
>> opens the site automatically.  I just don't want to have to open Kwallet
>> and then type the password into the protected site to open it.  I only
>> want to do the password task one time.  If Kwallet does the work for me,
>> then I want to use it.  When I click on Ebay in my bookmarks, my
>> username and password are entered for me; all I have to do is click
>> enter and it opens.  If that happens using Kwallet, I want Kwallet.  And
>> if that is the case, what do you suggest, my 37 unrelated number, symbol
>> letter in any case password that I somehow can remember?  I open it on
>> boot up and forget passwords wherever I go?  If you come up with the
>> answers I want, I will regret not using it.  I have just been so busy
>> learning basics, I haven't had time to learn some of the jewels that I
>> know are in KDE.  In time I will, but it will take time.  You can make
>> the Kwallet decision for me right now by telling me how it works with
>> relationship to my wants.  Thanks!  Steven
>>     
> That is pretty much what it does. I have used it for a long time it works 
> well.
>
> Its only drawback I have seen is that it does not work with firefox.
>
> Mike	
>   
Dear Mike,

When I first installed Kubuntu, it was difficult to change from what I 
was used to.  I used Firefox even when I used Windows; I just liked it 
better than Explorer.  Anyway, I rejected Kmail and Konquer, mostly 
because they were different and did not look as pretty.  Pretty stupid, 
huh.  Well, recently I got my first nice monitor, a 22" Active Matrix.  
I was able to increase print size without having to scroll 
horizontally.  This was a favored new toy for me, because I hated that 
about my former small screen.  But both Firefox and Thunderbird would 
not permit my desired configuration, so I looked again at Konqueror and 
Kmail.  Now that I am more familiar with Linux, I liked the cleanness 
and integration of the Linux offerings.  Additionally, they just 
naturally gave me the print size I wanted, so I decided to use them.  I 
find that the more I learn the Kubuntu-KDE way, the more I prefer it.  
And now that I want Kmail back, I can't get the configuration for 
outgoing mail to work.  It is always something.  On your suggestion, I 
am going to install and activate Kwallet in the morning.  I am tired and 
it is 2 in the morning, so I am going to bed.  I would like to thank you 
for being so kind as to suggest the use of Kwallet.  I know I will like 
it very much and will feel foolish for waiting so long.  This is the 
absolute finest forum on the net.

I forgot an important consideration, both Konqueror and Kmail seem so 
much faster to use.  It is remarkable.

Cordially, friend,
Steven