From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 06:45:44 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:45:44 +0200 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <4868D8C6.4080204@gmail.com> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <48665F4F.2060908@rmk.co.il> <4868A517.2090502@gmail.com> <4868D8C6.4080204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4869D298.30907@gmail.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > O. Sinclair said the following at 06/30/2008 03:19 AM : > >> >> Touchfreeze did not make me much happier and I really miss KSynaptic. >> But after googling and searching around forever I found that adding this >> line >> Option "MaxTapTime" "2" >> to the Synaptic Touchpad section of xorg.conf (/etc/X11) disables the >> tapping totally and I then use the pad-buttons instead for clicking. >> Peace at last! > > Brilliant! Thanks so much for posting this. I'll try this later today. > > Frankly, I don't understand how Canonical could have released hardy without > some obvious way to control this. Sure, the laptop is usable, but it's > usable in the same intensely frustrating way that it would be usable if it > were running Windows. In other words: it works, but it's anything but a > pleasure to use. > Apparently KSynaptics and QSynaptics access some sort of "shared memory" between users that is seen as a security risk and disabled in Hardy. I managed to install Ksynaptics but even though I put the correct option for shared memory "On" in xorg.conf I just got the message that shared memory is not enabled whenever I tried to run KSynaptics. GSynaptics is different then? Maybe worth a try Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 07:31:37 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:31:37 +0200 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <4869D298.30907@gmail.com> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <48665F4F.2060908@rmk.co.il> <4868A517.2090502@gmail.com> <4868D8C6.4080204@gmail.com> <4869D298.30907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4869DD59.5050304@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > D. R. Evans wrote: >> O. Sinclair said the following at 06/30/2008 03:19 AM : >> >>> Touchfreeze did not make me much happier and I really miss KSynaptic. >>> But after googling and searching around forever I found that adding this >>> line >>> Option "MaxTapTime" "2" >>> to the Synaptic Touchpad section of xorg.conf (/etc/X11) disables the >>> tapping totally and I then use the pad-buttons instead for clicking. >>> Peace at last! >> Brilliant! Thanks so much for posting this. I'll try this later today. >> >> Frankly, I don't understand how Canonical could have released hardy without >> some obvious way to control this. Sure, the laptop is usable, but it's >> usable in the same intensely frustrating way that it would be usable if it >> were running Windows. In other words: it works, but it's anything but a >> pleasure to use. >> > > Apparently KSynaptics and QSynaptics access some sort of "shared memory" > between users that is seen as a security risk and disabled in Hardy. I > managed to install Ksynaptics but even though I put the correct option > for shared memory "On" in xorg.conf I just got the message that shared > memory is not enabled whenever I tried to run KSynaptics. > > GSynaptics is different then? Maybe worth a try > Weird, GSynaptics seems to work though one first has to enable said "shared memory". K/Q does not, I think because of a dependency - I guess that explains why they are not in the repos. Will try out GSynaptics then and see if it is better than the "no tap click" trick. Sinclair From slewin at bmts.com Tue Jul 1 12:50:15 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:50:15 -0400 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <200806300554.00977.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <48691BB6.4060904@bmts.com> <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> Larry Hartman wrote: > I havent noticed the loss of settings during shutdown...I will look for it and > let you know if I experience the same. Have you been running Gsynaptics as root? I'm going to try to run it as root and see if that fixes my problem. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 13:20:49 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:20:49 +0300 Subject: Running a script when laptop wakes from RAM suspension Message-ID: <880dece00807010620q28e0c5c2lff58ee6fcec5b66d@mail.gmail.com> In KDE it is easy to have the machine run a script on login. How can I have the machine run a script whenever it wakes from RAM suspension? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From fred.schaer at free.fr Tue Jul 1 16:43:36 2008 From: fred.schaer at free.fr (Frederic Schaer) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:43:36 +0200 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291342o561ff687peee2a5f1bb5426f3@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291402t5dcc0ad8i8fccdd87d23b0d97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> You're not alone concerning Gimp UI, I fear ... I once read somebody who was using a virtual desktop for managing gimp windows (i.e : gimp on desktop 2, and *alone*) - I think it's the best advice I've seen so far concerning this s****d way of handling windows up to now :] Gimp "deweirdifier" is not so stable... And back to FF : I feel it is as ugly on KDE3, it's not because it's run in KDE4 that it changes a lot... I was even surprised to see that the default theme in windows looks... different. I'm wondering why default theme is different depending on the platform. Cheers Michael Leone a écrit : > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> 2008/6/29 Michael Leone : >> >>> I don't think that. It sure seems to me to be merely a matter of >>> personal preference, and not a bug. >>> >>> >> Then it's obviously not as bad as I think that it is. Carry on. >> > > :-) > > Ever seen the GiMP UI? I personally find that to be brain-dead stupid > and user UNfriendly. I seem to be the only one, as no one else files a > bug against it. There is a "theme" to make it look like Photoshop > (and it doesn't, BTW, but that's a different story). > > I see that as an exact parallel to FF 3 on KDE4. If you don't like the > default, there's a theme to change it. > > Now, if it didn't *work* - you couldn't hilight text and copy it, or > whatever - then that's a bug. > > Ugly isn't a bug, just silly UI design. :-) > > From vincentpdll at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 16:54:45 2008 From: vincentpdll at yahoo.com (vincent PADILLA) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> Message-ID: <34223.18646.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to bootup my system ??? and why does it freezes every 2 minutes ??? what can ido about it ??? is there any antivirus for linux,distros ??? --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Frederic Schaer wrote: > From: Frederic Schaer > Subject: Re: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 9:43 AM > You're not alone concerning Gimp UI, I fear ... I once > read somebody who > was using a virtual desktop for managing gimp windows (i.e > : gimp on > desktop 2, and *alone*) - I think it's the best advice > I've seen so far > concerning this s****d way of handling windows up to now :] > Gimp "deweirdifier" is not so stable... > > And back to FF : I feel it is as ugly on KDE3, it's not > because it's run > in KDE4 that it changes a lot... I was even surprised to > see that the > default theme in windows looks... different. I'm > wondering why default > theme is different depending on the platform. > > Cheers > > Michael Leone a écrit : > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Dotan Cohen > wrote: > > > >> 2008/6/29 Michael Leone > : > >> > >>> I don't think that. It sure seems to me to > be merely a matter of > >>> personal preference, and not a bug. > >>> > >>> > >> Then it's obviously not as bad as I think that > it is. Carry on. > >> > > > > :-) > > > > Ever seen the GiMP UI? I personally find that to be > brain-dead stupid > > and user UNfriendly. I seem to be the only one, as no > one else files a > > bug against it. There is a "theme" to make > it look like Photoshop > > (and it doesn't, BTW, but that's a different > story). > > > > I see that as an exact parallel to FF 3 on KDE4. If > you don't like the > > default, there's a theme to change it. > > > > Now, if it didn't *work* - you couldn't > hilight text and copy it, or > > whatever - then that's a bug. > > > > Ugly isn't a bug, just silly UI design. :-) > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From gregg at maths.uwa.edu.au Tue Jul 1 17:00:38 2008 From: gregg at maths.uwa.edu.au (Greg Gamble) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:00:38 +0800 Subject: lost usb/dvd on gutsy->hardy upgrade In-Reply-To: <20080630085423.GA16384@abutilon> References: <20080627163829.GA4785@abutilon> <200806271403.50519.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <20080627182819.GA4845@abutilon> <20080628170145.GA11389@abutilon> <20080630085423.GA16384@abutilon> Message-ID: <20080701170038.GA21496@abutilon> Dear Kubuntu-ers, A friend suggested thatmy problem was a hal problem and to look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353412 While that didn't seem to help, following the thread took me to a discussion of ivman, which wasn't installed ... so I installed it. Anyway, now sudo mount /dev/sdb1 mounts my jumpdrive on /media/sdb1 and sudo mount /dev/scd0 mounts a DVD on /media/cdrom0. After this `mount' says [...] /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=113,gid=46,umask=007,fmask=0117,dmask=0007) Anyway, I now have all the functionality I need this way, and I use umount to safely remove them again. Something (not sure what) brought up an icon `DVD (scd0)', but it doesn't disappear when a DVD is umounted or ejected, and clicking on the icon gives options such as `Open with Dolphin' (which works), `Eject' (which doesn't⊇ and `Unmount' (which doesn't). What happens when I click on either `Eject' or `Unmount' is a dialog box comes up saying `Feature is only available with HAL' ... does that give a clue as to what broke. I suppose something must have been overwritten in a config file. The icon `DVD (scd0)' is quite different to the one I had when I inserted a DVD under gutsy. Anyway, if noone has any further clues with this one, the manual mounting approach is fine. Regards, Greg Gamble On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:54:34PM +0800, Greg Gamble wrote: > Sorry for the delay in reply Jonas, > > I had tried to email several hours ago, but our mail server went > down. Anyway, replies to your queries are embedded below. > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:41:09PM +0200, Jonas Norlander wrote: > > 2008/6/28 Greg Gamble : > > > Thanks Jonas, Pablo and James > > > > > > I answer all your queries and give the outputs of your suggestions > > > below. Is it better to do this in the one email like this? ... or > > > answer each suggestion/query by reply to each email? > > > > > > Anyway, thanks ... I feel I'm moving forward a little. > > > > >> Can you give us the output from > > >> this command: > > >> ls -l /dev/s[cd]* > > >> ls -l /dev/cd* > > >> ls -l /dev/dvd* > > > > > > $ ls -l /dev/s[cd]* > > > brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/scd0 > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/sda > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/sda1 > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 2 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/sda2 > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 5 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/sda5 > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2008-06-29 00:18 /dev/sdb > > > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 2008-06-29 00:18 /dev/sdb1 > > > > > > $ ls -l /dev/cd* > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/cdrom -> scd0 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/cdrw -> scd0 > > > > > > $ ls -l /dev/dvd* > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/dvd -> scd0 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-06-29 00:06 /dev/dvdrw -> scd0 > > > > Your DVD drive is recognized and all symlinks is there and pointing to > > your DVD device and you can mount and you can mount a CD manually. > > What kind of disc are you trying with? When you insert a > > DVD-movie/Data DVD, Data CD or Audio CD do you get the pop up dialog > > asking what you want to do with it? > > I tried with a Data CD, but I don't think it matters. When I insert the > CD, I don't get any pop-up dialog or icon as I used to and it doesn't > get mounted under media. > > > > Jun 29 00:36:05 banksia kernel: [ 899.220250] usb 1-10: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 > > > Jun 29 00:36:05 banksia kernel: [ 899.278488] usb 1-10: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > > > Jun 29 00:36:05 banksia kernel: [ 899.278712] scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.451016] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access LEXAR JUMPDRIVE 1000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.452389] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 252928 512-byte hardware sectors (129 MB) > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.452766] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.454062] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 252928 512-byte hardware sectors (129 MB) > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.454388] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.454396] sdb: sdb1 > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.479620] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk > > > Jun 29 00:36:10 banksia kernel: [ 901.479656] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 > > > > > > It's finding your USB Jumpdrive and the partition on it and assigning > > it to the sdb1 device, so all looks OK besides that your system wont > > automount any removable media. > > What's the right way to mount my USB Jumpdrive manually? > > > This looks more some kind of UDEV/HAL issues. Is UDEV and HAL installed? > > $ dpkg -l '*udev*' > ... > ||/ Name Version Description > +++-==============-==============-============================================ > ii udev 117-8 rule-based device node and kernel event mana > > $ dpkg -l '*hal*' > ||/ Name Version Description > +++-==============-==============-============================================ > ii hal 0.5.11~rc2-1ub Hardware Abstraction Layer > ii hal-cups-utils 0.6.13+svn86-0 CUPS integration with HAL > ii hal-info 20080508+git20 Hardware Abstraction Layer - fdi files > un hashalot (no description available) > ii libhal-storage 0.5.11~rc2-1ub Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library > ii libhal1 0.5.11~rc2-1ub Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library > > > What groups are you member of? > > $ groups > gregg adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev > > I hope some of that info helps diagnose what broke. > > Regards and thanks, > Greg Gamble > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- Regards, Greg Gamble From vincentpdll at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 17:16:21 2008 From: vincentpdll at yahoo.com (vincent PADILLA) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bootup Message-ID: <312871.27656.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to boot up my system ??? also it freezes up every 3 minutes ??? is there any antivirus for the linux distros ??? what can I do ??? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Jul 1 17:17:49 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:17:49 -0400 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <34223.18646.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <34223.18646.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807011317.49316.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 01 July 2008, vincent PADILLA wrote: > why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to bootup my > system ??? and why does it freezes every 2 minutes ??? what can ido about > it ??? is there any antivirus for linux,distros ??? Ask your question in a new thread.... No one will find it here under KDE4 and Firefox issues From fred.schaer at free.fr Tue Jul 1 17:30:35 2008 From: fred.schaer at free.fr (Frederic Schaer) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:30:35 +0200 Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <312871.27656.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <312871.27656.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486A69BB.6080000@free.fr> Hi, vincent PADILLA a écrit : > why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to boot up my system ??? Probably because your computer then tries to boot on that card when it's plugged. you can try to change your bios settings > also it freezes up every 3 minutes ??? Overclocking ? > is there any antivirus for the linux distros ??? Yes, clamav, but... it's not so efficient I feel. I once saw an fprot version for linux Also try chkrootkit > what can I do ??? > Change your computer ? "Thanks. You're welcome !" From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 17:55:18 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:55:18 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291342o561ff687peee2a5f1bb5426f3@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291402t5dcc0ad8i8fccdd87d23b0d97@mail.gmail.com> <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00807011055u23cde4e2pb87b67ff703e3365@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/1 Frederic Schaer : > You're not alone concerning Gimp UI, I fear ... I once read somebody who > was using a virtual desktop for managing gimp windows (i.e : gimp on > desktop 2, and *alone*) - I think it's the best advice I've seen so far > concerning this s****d way of handling windows up to now :] > Gimp "deweirdifier" is not so stable... That was (is) me! > And back to FF : I feel it is as ugly on KDE3, it's not because it's run > in KDE4 that it changes a lot... I was even surprised to see that the > default theme in windows looks... different. I'm wondering why default > theme is different depending on the platform. > Because that's what people want, or so think Mozilla. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Tue Jul 1 17:54:31 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:54:31 -0700 Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <312871.27656.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <312871.27656.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807011054.31828.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 10:16:21 am vincent PADILLA wrote: > why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to boot up > my system ??? also it freezes up every 3 minutes ??? is there any antivirus > for the linux distros ??? what can I do ??? What have you changed? I have to assume this machine has been working? Heat sinks and fans all installed and working correctly? Does it matter which card? Is it dependent on the slot the card is in? Are the cards the same size? Are you above the max memory allowed for the motherboard? Actually, the freezing every three minutes sounds like the memory is too slow for the motherboard or it is powered by too high voltage. Either way the memory would get very hot. The CPU too hot should shut it down, not just freeze it. Of course that will also cause lots of damage in short order. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 17:56:33 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:56:33 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <34223.18646.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> <34223.18646.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807011056g7fa234fcn8c50f0def2dd188d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/1 vincent PADILLA : > why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in order for me to bootup my system ??? and why does it freezes every 2 minutes ??? what can ido about it ??? is there any antivirus for linux,distros ??? > Open a new message (NOT a reply) and address it to the list, with a clear subject and your questions. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From vincentpdll at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 18:16:09 2008 From: vincentpdll at yahoo.com (vincent PADILLA) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <200807011054.31828.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <866075.90997.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> well, yes they are the same size each card,and it doesn't matter which card i remove ?? all fans work properly and sink heats as well, but ,when I leave the two cards in the computer,it says spurious act a program may be trying to access the hardware directly, what can I do ?? I used to have the windows xp pro. on it, could that be the problem ??? if so how can I get rid of it.,?? --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Pastor JW wrote: > From: Pastor JW > Subject: Re: bootup > To: vincentpdll at yahoo.com, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:54 AM > On Tuesday 01 July 2008 10:16:21 am vincent PADILLA wrote: > > why do I have to remove one of my memory cards in > order for me to boot up > > my system ??? also it freezes up every 3 minutes ??? > is there any antivirus > > for the linux distros ??? what can I do ??? > > What have you changed? I have to assume this machine has > been working? Heat > sinks and fans all installed and working correctly? Does > it matter which > card? Is it dependent on the slot the card is in? Are the > cards the same > size? Are you above the max memory allowed for the > motherboard? Actually, > the freezing every three minutes sounds like the memory is > too slow for the > motherboard or it is powered by too high voltage. Either > way the memory > would get very hot. The CPU too hot should shut it down, > not just freeze it. > Of course that will also cause lots of damage in short > order. > > -- > 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 > http://the-inner-circle.org > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle > http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 19:25:12 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:25:12 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291342o561ff687peee2a5f1bb5426f3@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291402t5dcc0ad8i8fccdd87d23b0d97@mail.gmail.com> <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> Message-ID: <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/1 Frederic Schaer : > You're not alone concerning Gimp UI, I fear ... I once read somebody who > was using a virtual desktop for managing gimp windows (i.e : gimp on > desktop 2, and *alone*) - I think it's the best advice I've seen so far > concerning this s****d way of handling windows up to now :] > Gimp "deweirdifier" is not so stable... > > And back to FF : I feel it is as ugly on KDE3, it's not because it's run > in KDE4 that it changes a lot... I was even surprised to see that the > default theme in windows looks... different. I'm wondering why default > theme is different depending on the platform. > > Cheers > > something that always bothered me since the first beta of firefox 3 was released. the windows firefox is much prettier! i'm typing this message on windows no (at work), the back button with the forward button and the recent pages arrow are mixed together in a very beautiful way, whereas on linux, it is still the same dull distinct buttons, like it was in firefox 2. why? the coloring isn't much of a problem with me, even though firefox resembles the old classic theme of windows, but that's no big deal compared to buttons, the feeds in the bookmarks toolbar (which also are different between OSes), and various tiny things in the UI. ok, linux is not about being flashy like what M$ cares only about, but still, linux users DO want nice looks, and flashy appearances, it's just not their top concern! -- Ronald Reagan - "Recession is when a neighbour loses his job. 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Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Tue Jul 1 19:52:29 2008 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:52:29 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine problem In-Reply-To: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: > I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from > medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss > package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, > everything works. > > Any idea what's wrong? > > Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard > popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. Try entering ls /dev/ | grep dvd from Konsole and printing the results here. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From turgon at mike-leone.com Tue Jul 1 20:58:08 2008 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Michael Leone) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291342o561ff687peee2a5f1bb5426f3@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00806291402t5dcc0ad8i8fccdd87d23b0d97@mail.gmail.com> <486A5EB8.7040900@free.fr> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Willy Hamra wrote: > ok, linux is not about being flashy like what M$ cares only about, but You mistyped "Apple" there ... :-) OS X is much prettier and flashier than XP, and even Vista. Apple knows how to do a fine looking (and stable) OS. > still, linux users DO want nice looks, and flashy appearances, it's just not > their top concern! Then they should make themes. All of those add-ons on Mozilla's site are user-created. Hopefully, the community will eventually get around to creating themes, as well as plugins. -- Michael J. Leone, PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Photo Gallery: I couldn't understand your attitude. I only wanted to take a photograph of you, But I was shocked when I heard what you had to say. You picked up my camera, threw it away, I didn't really mean to ruin your day. -- "Heart of Gold", the Kinks From claydoh at midmaine.com Tue Jul 1 21:28:50 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:28:50 -0400 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Tue July 1 2008 4:58:08 pm Michael Leone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Willy Hamra wrote: > > ok, linux is not about being flashy like what M$ cares only about, but > > You mistyped "Apple" there ... :-) OS X is much prettier and flashier > than XP, and even Vista. Apple knows how to do a fine looking (and > stable) OS. > > > still, linux users DO want nice looks, and flashy appearances, it's just > > not their top concern! > > Then they should make themes. All of those add-ons on Mozilla's site > are user-created. Hopefully, the community will eventually get around > to creating themes, as well as plugins. > > apachelogger has just created an Oxygen theme for FF3: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7962 Very nice, imo. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jul 1 22:51:00 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:51:00 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine problem In-Reply-To: <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <486AB4D4.8070004@tiscali.co.uk> Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: > >> I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from >> medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss >> package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, >> everything works. >> >> Any idea what's wrong? >> >> Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard >> popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. >> > > Try entering > ls /dev/ | grep dvd > from Konsole and printing the results here. > > wulfy at kubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ | grep dvd dvd1 dvdrw1 -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From mendebrock at cfl.rr.com Wed Jul 2 00:02:05 2008 From: mendebrock at cfl.rr.com (Matt Endebrock) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:02:05 -0400 Subject: Klibido Does Not Launch Message-ID: <200807012002.05194.mendebrock@cfl.rr.com> Hello all, I'm running a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04 (64 bit) and my newsreader application, Klibido, has begun to act up. The application appears to launch but then, nothing. When I try to launch from konsole, bash just returns immediately to a command prompt. The application is installed matt at Jenny:~$ whereis klibido klibido: /usr/bin/klibido /usr/share/man/man1/klibido.1.gz Oddly, when I log out and log back in, the gui for Klibido shows up (as if it had been running when I logged out). I have reinstalled the program using Adept (request purge, request install) but the problem is unchanged. Note that the "purge" option for removal did not function as I'd expected. Per the literature, I understood the purge option removes all (some?) of the configuration files for a particular app. After the re-installation, Klibido showed up with all my Newsgroups and Server (and password!) intact. I'm a noob, though, so I probably just don't understand what purge does. Any takers? Thanks, Matt From joelol75 at verizon.net Wed Jul 2 01:56:42 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:56:42 -0400 Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <866075.90997.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <866075.90997.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486AE05A.2050601@verizon.net> Run the memtest86 in the grub boot menu, sounds like a bad memory stick. From joelol75 at verizon.net Wed Jul 2 02:05:25 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:05:25 -0400 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <200806300554.00977.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <48691BB6.4060904@bmts.com> <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> Message-ID: <486AE265.4090305@verizon.net> A fix I used is to download ksynaptics from the gutsy repo and install.... It works just fine in hardy after adding the option shmconfig true to xorg.conf I posted a bug on launchpad - Bug #208802 [hardy] ksynaptics missing from repositories But I guess nothing will be done until touchfreeze is released. From joelol75 at verizon.net Wed Jul 2 02:15:03 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:15:03 -0400 Subject: Running a script when laptop wakes from RAM suspension In-Reply-To: <880dece00807010620q28e0c5c2lff58ee6fcec5b66d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807010620q28e0c5c2lff58ee6fcec5b66d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486AE4A7.1030209@verizon.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > In KDE it is easy to have the machine run a script on login. How can I > have the machine run a script whenever it wakes from RAM suspension? > Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > Put the script in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ and follow the way its done--- the higher the number the later your script will run so it's best to number it 99-yourscript.sh so any networking or other services are started.... Make sure to sudo chmod a+x it or it won't run. There are directories for resume and start as well... From nixternal at kubuntu.org Wed Jul 2 03:05:31 2008 From: nixternal at kubuntu.org (Richard A. Johnson) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:05:31 -0500 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200807012205.31214.nixternal@kubuntu.org> http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/snapshot1.png http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/snapshot2.png This is what my Firefox 3 and Gimp look like using the gtk-qt-engine-kde4 from the ~kubuntu-members-kde4 repository. w/o this engine, yes it looks ugly, but with it, it looks decent. -- Richard A. Johnson nixternal at kubuntu.org GPG Key: 0x2E2C0124 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 04:30:33 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:30:33 -0600 Subject: Video Cards on linux Message-ID: Ok, so with linux a lot of people seem to have problems with video cards, and their drivers. I'm just wondering, what cards have you used and what was the overall experiance with them? Were you using the proprietary drivers, or the opensource versions? Right now I'm using an ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro. Everything works well enough with only some minor problems. First, when I boot up my computer the screen resolution is never correct, but krandrtray fixes that easily enough. Another problem was that the free Alsa driver that was used automatically with my install didn't support 3D, and so I had to enable the proprietary to get compiz, and to play games. Overall though, I can't complain. I'm just looking to gain some knowlage about different cards here, for other people I know who are curious, and for when I decide to upgrade my own card. So please no flame wars about propriety vs open drivers (which always seems to happen in other discussions on this topic). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 05:01:16 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:01:16 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <200807012205.31214.nixternal@kubuntu.org> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200807012205.31214.nixternal@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <880dece00807012201r36dca181t438fe60926a66a91@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/2 Richard A. Johnson : > http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/snapshot1.png > http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/snapshot2.png > > This is what my Firefox 3 and Gimp look like using the gtk-qt-engine-kde4 from > the ~kubuntu-members-kde4 repository. > > w/o this engine, yes it looks ugly, but with it, it looks decent. > Add those pictures, and the befores, to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/243733 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kc9aae at att.net Wed Jul 2 05:06:00 2008 From: kc9aae at att.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:06:00 -0500 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> Juan Kawada wrote: > Ok, so with linux a lot of people seem to have problems with video > cards, and their drivers. I'm just wondering, what cards have you used > and what was the overall experiance with them? Were you using the > proprietary drivers, or the opensource versions? Well, I'm using a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 on the desktop, and a GeForce 8600M GS on my laptop and all is well. Both have 256MB of ram and they work fine for me. Compiz works fine on both computers, although the desktop is a tad slow. (only has 512MB of ram on a AMD 1.6Ghz cpu) Both systems are using the proprietary drivers provided from Kubuntu. (nvidia vs nv) Dana From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Wed Jul 2 06:23:58 2008 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:23:58 +0200 Subject: Video Cards on linux References: Message-ID: Juan Kawada wrote: > Ok, so with linux a lot of people seem to have problems with video cards, > and their drivers. I'm just wondering, what cards have you used and what > was the overall experiance with them? Were you using the proprietary > drivers, or the opensource versions? > > Right now I'm using an ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro. Everything works well > enough with only some minor problems. First, when I boot up my computer > the screen resolution is never correct, but krandrtray fixes that easily > enough. Another problem was that the free Alsa driver that was used > automatically with my install didn't support 3D, and so I had to enable > the proprietary to get compiz, and to play games. Overall though, I can't > complain. > > I'm just looking to gain some knowlage about different cards here, for > other people I know who are curious, and for when I decide to upgrade my > own > card. So please no flame wars about propriety vs open drivers (which > always seems to happen in other discussions on this topic). Hi Juan, I've got an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB vram and no problems. I use the proprietary fglrx driver which I download from the ATI site and build using module-assistant after each kernel upgrade. I use this driver to get 3D acceleration and it does with no problems. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 06:23:36 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:23:36 +0200 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <486B1EE8.10607@gmail.com> claydoh wrote: > On Tue July 1 2008 4:58:08 pm Michael Leone wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Willy Hamra wrote: >>> ok, linux is not about being flashy like what M$ cares only about, but >> You mistyped "Apple" there ... :-) OS X is much prettier and flashier >> than XP, and even Vista. Apple knows how to do a fine looking (and >> stable) OS. >> >>> still, linux users DO want nice looks, and flashy appearances, it's just >>> not their top concern! >> Then they should make themes. All of those add-ons on Mozilla's site >> are user-created. Hopefully, the community will eventually get around >> to creating themes, as well as plugins. >> >> > apachelogger has just created an Oxygen theme for FF3: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7962 > Very nice, imo. > Personally I like KDE4+Firefox 3 better, found at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574 Then you can add extension Konquefox if you like too Sinclair From aikurn at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 07:35:20 2008 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:35:20 +0200 Subject: Klibido Does Not Launch In-Reply-To: <200807012002.05194.mendebrock@cfl.rr.com> References: <200807012002.05194.mendebrock@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/2 Matt Endebrock : > Hello all, Hi Matt, I'm running a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04 (64 bit) and my > newsreader > application, Klibido, has begun to act up. The application appears to > launch > but then, nothing. When I try to launch from konsole, bash just returns > immediately to a command prompt. > It's been a long time since I used KLibido on a 64 bits system, but this behaviour sounds familiar. I can't remember why it happened though. Like you said, it's probably running on the background but to be sure you could check it with: $ps aux | grep klibido The first part (ps aux) lists your running processes and the second (grep klibido) filters just the ones with the word "klibido" on them. If you see Klibido, note it's Process ID (PID) and use the kill command to finish it so it doesn't show up on your next login: $kill PID I have reinstalled the program using Adept (request purge, request install) > but the problem is unchanged. > > Note that the "purge" option for removal did not function as I'd expected. > Per > the literature, I understood the purge option removes all (some?) of the > configuration files for a particular app. After the re-installation, > Klibido > showed up with all my Newsgroups and Server (and password!) intact. I'm a > noob, though, so I probably just don't understand what purge does. > The purge option removes system wide configuration files but it would never delete your personal settings. You may find Klibido's settings inside $HOME/.kde/share/config/ and $HOME/.kde/share/apps/. Hope it helps. -- Leticia Hernández -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 08:54:40 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:54:40 +0200 Subject: Kaffeine problem In-Reply-To: <486AB4D4.8070004@tiscali.co.uk> References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <486AB4D4.8070004@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: 2008/7/2 Wulfy : > Mark Fraser wrote: >> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from >>> medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss >>> package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, >>> everything works. >>> >>> Any idea what's wrong? >>> >>> Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard >>> popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. >>> >> >> Try entering >> ls /dev/ | grep dvd >> from Konsole and printing the results here. >> >> > wulfy at kubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ | grep dvd > dvd1 > dvdrw1 > I think Kaffeine and other xine programs is looking for /dev/dvd as default. It looks like you been hit by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 try the workaround i mention there and you should have your /dev/dvd symlink restored. Dont know if thats the cause to your problem but it's worth a try. / Jonas From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 09:07:12 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:07:12 +0200 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <486AE265.4090305@verizon.net> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <200806300554.00977.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <48691BB6.4060904@bmts.com> <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> <486AE265.4090305@verizon.net> Message-ID: <486B4540.2060409@gmail.com> Joel Oliver wrote: > A fix I used is to download ksynaptics from the gutsy repo and > install.... It works just fine in hardy after adding the option > shmconfig true to xorg.conf > > I posted a bug on launchpad - Bug #208802 [hardy] ksynaptics missing > from repositories > > But I guess nothing will be done until touchfreeze is released. > How did you do that? the download that is. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 10:07:08 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:07:08 -0400 Subject: How to clean out ~/home Message-ID: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Over several years of distro upgrades and installs, my ~/home directory has become a dumping ground for old and overly modified configuration files and other junk. I suspect that something here is now interfering with kde and kde4 because I have some strange and unsolved kde3 and kde4 problems when using this ~/home directory. However these problems don't occur if I create a new_user on the system. Short of deleting and rebuilding ~/home can someone make some suggestions for a systematic but reasonably safe way of eliminating the unused junk while not eliminating essential files. (Please don't recommend deleting .kde...I've tried that and it doesn't help...The problem is almost certainly at the top level of ~/home.) Thanks, Paul From mmorse757 at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 11:42:37 2008 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:42:37 -0400 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: Top level of ~/home? I am not 100% sure but I doubt that is where the problem is. The only thing /home contains are the user directories. There aren't any /essential files/ in the /home directory. You already stated that deleting the .kde file didn't work so my bet is that the issue isn't KDE related. On 7/2/08, Paul Kaplan wrote: > Over several years of distro upgrades and installs, my ~/home directory has > become a dumping ground for old and overly modified configuration files and > other junk. > > I suspect that something here is now interfering with kde and kde4 because I > have some strange and unsolved kde3 and kde4 problems when using this ~/home > directory. However these problems don't occur if I create a new_user on the > system. > > Short of deleting and rebuilding ~/home can someone make some suggestions > for > a systematic but reasonably safe way of eliminating the unused junk while > not > eliminating essential files. (Please don't recommend deleting .kde...I've > tried that and it doesn't help...The problem is almost certainly at the top > level of ~/home.) > > Thanks, > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "Careful. We don't want to learn from this." - Calvin From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 12:42:42 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:42:42 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <486B1EE8.10607@gmail.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> <486B1EE8.10607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807020542g2dc10188wa71993d2424fc6a6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/2 O. Sinclair : > Personally I like KDE4+Firefox 3 better, found at > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574 > I would appreciate if you would suggest that theme on the bug. It's nice. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 12:53:25 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:53:25 +0200 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <486B7A45.5070600@gmail.com> Dear Paul, Dear Everybody A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another computer or at an external HD * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the software installed at your PC * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ overwriting the old configuration. * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to add to it all the software you have been using before. If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and use a KUBUNTU FILES report. Respectfully Yours, Bas. J. Michael Morse wrote: > Top level of ~/home? I am not 100% sure but I doubt that is where the > problem is. The only thing /home contains are the user directories. > There aren't any /essential files/ in the /home directory. > > You already stated that deleting the .kde file didn't work so my bet > is that the issue isn't KDE related. > > On 7/2/08, Paul Kaplan wrote: > >> Over several years of distro upgrades and installs, my ~/home directory has >> become a dumping ground for old and overly modified configuration files and >> other junk. >> >> I suspect that something here is now interfering with kde and kde4 because I >> have some strange and unsolved kde3 and kde4 problems when using this ~/home >> directory. However these problems don't occur if I create a new_user on the >> system. >> >> Short of deleting and rebuilding ~/home can someone make some suggestions >> for >> a systematic but reasonably safe way of eliminating the unused junk while >> not >> eliminating essential files. (Please don't recommend deleting .kde...I've >> tried that and it doesn't help...The problem is almost certainly at the top >> level of ~/home.) >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > > -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 13:02:58 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:02:58 +0200 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <880dece00807020542g2dc10188wa71993d2424fc6a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> <486B1EE8.10607@gmail.com> <880dece00807020542g2dc10188wa71993d2424fc6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486B7C82.8090701@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/2 O. Sinclair : >> Personally I like KDE4+Firefox 3 better, found at >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574 >> > > I would appreciate if you would suggest that theme on the bug. It's nice. > I dont know. While I agree with you that the "Tango" theme is all but nice in KDE (I am on KDE3, not 4) it takes very little effort to fix by loading the alternative of your choice. To me it is not a "bug" as it does not have any effect on functionality - but a "request" and then I guess this is a better forum. Hopefully a package maintainer sees our suggestions. and we lack a Kubuntu Brainstorm site btw, where this would fit perfect. Regards, Sinclair From dlouhy at charter.net Wed Jul 2 13:19:29 2008 From: dlouhy at charter.net (Jonathan Dlouhy) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:19:29 -0400 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1215004769.20576.2.camel@ultimate-desktop> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 08:23 +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Juan Kawada wrote: > > > Ok, so with linux a lot of people seem to have problems with video cards, > > and their drivers. I'm just wondering, what cards have you used and what > > was the overall experiance with them? Were you using the proprietary > > drivers, or the opensource versions? > > > > Right now I'm using an ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro. Everything works well > > enough with only some minor problems. First, when I boot up my computer > > the screen resolution is never correct, but krandrtray fixes that easily > > enough. Another problem was that the free Alsa driver that was used > > automatically with my install didn't support 3D, and so I had to enable > > the proprietary to get compiz, and to play games. Overall though, I can't > > complain. > > > > I'm just looking to gain some knowlage about different cards here, for > > other people I know who are curious, and for when I decide to upgrade my > > own > > card. So please no flame wars about propriety vs open drivers (which > > always seems to happen in other discussions on this topic). > Hi Juan, > I've got an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB vram and no problems. I use the > proprietary fglrx driver which I download from the ATI site and build using > module-assistant after each kernel upgrade. I use this driver to get 3D > acceleration and it does with no problems. > Cheers, Juan, I have an nVidia GeForce 6200 AGP with 256 M DDR ram that works quite well. I have all the video effects enabled and it's still pretty snappy. The price is right too, about $40. -- Jonathan Dlouhy ========== Quantum Computers 404-428-7088 www.quantumcomputerguys.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 14:12:30 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:12:30 +0200 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <486B4540.2060409@gmail.com> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <200806300554.00977.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <48691BB6.4060904@bmts.com> <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> <486AE265.4090305@verizon.net> <486B4540.2060409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486B8CCE.6060903@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Joel Oliver wrote: >> A fix I used is to download ksynaptics from the gutsy repo and >> install.... It works just fine in hardy after adding the option >> shmconfig true to xorg.conf >> >> I posted a bug on launchpad - Bug #208802 [hardy] ksynaptics missing >> from repositories >> >> But I guess nothing will be done until touchfreeze is released. >> > How did you do that? the download that is. > I figured it out (how to download that is) and it seems to work, will control it more in detail later tonight. But I dont get this? OK it is not maintained but seems not to depend on anything that renders it unusable so why remove it from Hardy? Sinclair From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 2 14:24:19 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:24:19 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine problem In-Reply-To: References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <486AB4D4.8070004@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <486B8F93.90405@tiscali.co.uk> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/7/2 Wulfy : > >> Mark Fraser wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from >>>> medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss >>>> package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, >>>> everything works. >>>> >>>> Any idea what's wrong? >>>> >>>> Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard >>>> popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. >>>> >>>> >>> Try entering >>> ls /dev/ | grep dvd >>> from Konsole and printing the results here. >>> >>> >>> >> wulfy at kubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ | grep dvd >> dvd1 >> dvdrw1 >> >> > > I think Kaffeine and other xine programs is looking for /dev/dvd as > default. It looks like you been hit by this bug > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 try the > workaround i mention there and you should have your /dev/dvd symlink > restored. Dont know if thats the cause to your problem but it's worth > a try. > > / Jonas > > I'll take a look at that, thanks. One wrinkle that I've found is when trying to mount video DVD is that Konqueror can't see it *until I open it in Dolphin*. At that point, I am able to play the .vob's no problem as individual files. This is a problem in that I can't stand Dolphin... I use Konqueror as my file manager (Firefox is my web browser of choice). -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From tkg at lanl.gov Wed Jul 2 14:31:43 2008 From: tkg at lanl.gov (Thomas K. Gamble) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:31:43 -0600 Subject: Strange keyboard problem Message-ID: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on and the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot to a console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. I can't find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any clues? -- Thomas K. Gamble System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) Los Alamos National Laboratory MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. Henry Kissinger From joelol75 at verizon.net Wed Jul 2 14:35:06 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:35:06 -0400 Subject: controlling touchpad in hardy? In-Reply-To: <486B8CCE.6060903@gmail.com> References: <4865698B.3000802@gmail.com> <200806300554.00977.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <48691BB6.4060904@bmts.com> <200806301555.32853.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <486A2807.2050301@bmts.com> <486AE265.4090305@verizon.net> <486B4540.2060409@gmail.com> <486B8CCE.6060903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486B921A.4040807@verizon.net> > > I figured it out (how to download that is) and it seems to work, will > control it more in detail later tonight. But I dont get this? OK it is > not maintained but seems not to depend on anything that renders it > unusable so why remove it from Hardy? > > Sinclair > > I don't understand it myself.... Nothing in my bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ksynaptics/+bug/208802 got answered, even though they CONFIRMED the problem.... I think they are giving alot less attention to KDE any more and most of the KDE bugs are CONFIRMED...WILL NOT FIX because supposedly they are all working on KDE4 and don't care about 3.5.9 so.... having tried 4 and not liking it (Total incomplete crap IMO, will take a long time to catch up) I have went to gnome for the time being... sorry to say.. I have always liked KDE, but I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Joel From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 2 14:37:09 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:37:09 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine problem [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> <200807012052.29973.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <486AB4D4.8070004@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <486B9295.2020000@tiscali.co.uk> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/7/2 Wulfy : > >> Mark Fraser wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from >>>> medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss >>>> package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, >>>> everything works. >>>> >>>> Any idea what's wrong? >>>> >>>> Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard >>>> popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. >>>> >>>> >>> Try entering >>> ls /dev/ | grep dvd >>> from Konsole and printing the results here. >>> >>> >>> >> wulfy at kubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ | grep dvd >> dvd1 >> dvdrw1 >> >> > > I think Kaffeine and other xine programs is looking for /dev/dvd as > default. It looks like you been hit by this bug > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 try the > workaround i mention there and you should have your /dev/dvd symlink > restored. Dont know if thats the cause to your problem but it's worth > a try. > > / Jonas > > I looked in xine's parameters under Settings in Kaffeine. It was looking for the dvd at /dev/dvd. On a whim, I changed that to /dev/dvd1 and now it plays the DVDs no problem! It appears to be a wrong error message. What it should say is "where the heck have you hidden the DVD???" :@) Thanks to all who helped! :@D -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 2 14:41:20 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:41:20 +0100 Subject: Strange keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> References: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> Message-ID: <486B9390.2070901@tiscali.co.uk> Thomas K. Gamble wrote: > After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the > numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on and > the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot to a > console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. I can't > find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any clues? > > I noticed the same thing when I upgraded to Hardy on my 32-bit system. My work-around was to install the Keyboard Status Applet on Kicker and use that the force the light(s) correct. HTH -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Wed Jul 2 15:23:03 2008 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:23:03 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine problem [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <486B9295.2020000@tiscali.co.uk> References: <486A866B.3090207@tiscali.co.uk> <486B9295.2020000@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807021623.03883.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 02 July 2008 15:37:09 Wulfy wrote: > Jonas Norlander wrote: > > 2008/7/2 Wulfy : > >> Mark Fraser wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:32:59 Wulfy wrote: > >>>> I'm trying to play an encrypted DVD. I have libdvdcss2 installed from > >>>> medibuntu. Kaffeine refuses to autoplay saying it needs the libdvdcss > >>>> package. If I mount the DVD and play the individual .vob files, > >>>> everything works. > >>>> > >>>> Any idea what's wrong? > >>>> > >>>> Up-to-date Hardy upgraded from Gutsy RC1 disk install (my motherboard > >>>> popped and I had to reinstall). It worked before the reinstall. > >>> > >>> Try entering > >>> ls /dev/ | grep dvd > >>> from Konsole and printing the results here. > >> > >> wulfy at kubuntu:~$ ls /dev/ | grep dvd > >> dvd1 > >> dvdrw1 > > > > I think Kaffeine and other xine programs is looking for /dev/dvd as > > default. It looks like you been hit by this bug > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 try the > > workaround i mention there and you should have your /dev/dvd symlink > > restored. Dont know if thats the cause to your problem but it's worth > > a try. > > > > / Jonas > > I looked in xine's parameters under Settings in Kaffeine. It was > looking for the dvd at /dev/dvd. On a whim, I changed that to /dev/dvd1 > and now it plays the DVDs no problem! It appears to be a wrong error > message. What it should say is "where the heck have you hidden the > DVD???" :@) > > Thanks to all who helped! :@D The other way of doing it would've been to have followed the link that Jonas posted. Which was to: cd /etc/udev/rules.d/ sudo mv 75-cd-aliases-generator.rules 75-cd-aliases-generator.rules~ restart the computer and your DVD drive should be back at /dev/dvd. I don't like the way they say it's only a minor problem as all my machines here were affected in one way or another. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From slewin at bmts.com Wed Jul 2 16:36:39 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:36:39 -0400 Subject: PHP Syntax check Message-ID: <486BAE97.4070300@bmts.com> Hi, does anybody know of a debbuger or syntax checker that can be run locally to look for PHP errors? I would like to run my PHP code locally through a check before uploading it to my web host and without turning my computer into a web server. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From paul at lemmons.name Wed Jul 2 16:50:35 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:50:35 -0700 Subject: PHP Syntax check In-Reply-To: <486BAE97.4070300@bmts.com> References: <486BAE97.4070300@bmts.com> Message-ID: <486BB1DB.30607@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PHP Syntax check From: Scott To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 07/02/2008 09:36 AM > Hi, > > does anybody know of a debbuger or syntax checker that can be run > locally to look for PHP errors? I would like to run my PHP code locally > through a check before uploading it to my web host and without turning > my computer into a web server. > > Is this what you are looking for? http://us3.php.net/runkit_lint http://www.objectivelyoriented.com/2007/05/how_to_quickly_lint_php_files_1.html If these links don't meet the need try a google search with terms "php lint" -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I never thought about doing one on Google, thanks. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From spwhite at freesurf.ch Wed Jul 2 17:07:39 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:07:39 +0200 Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <866075.90997.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <866075.90997.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807021907.40025.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 20:16, vincent PADILLA wrote: > what can I do ?? I used to have the windows xp pro. on it, could that be > the problem ??? if so how can I get rid of it.,?? Even in the case you still had the windows xp pro. on it (and were using dual booting) M$ wouldn't interfere with Linux. Perry -- BOFH excuse #412: Radial Telemetry Infiltration From mmorse757 at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 17:20:05 2008 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:20:05 -0400 Subject: Adobe's pdf is not an ISO standard. Message-ID: Adobe has relinquished control of the format: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/02/adobes_pdf_format_now_an_iso_standard.html -- "Careful. We don't want to learn from this." - Calvin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From turgon at mike-leone.com Wed Jul 2 17:36:55 2008 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Michael Leone) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:36:55 -0400 Subject: Adobe's pdf is now an ISO standard. Message-ID: Your original subject line said *not* a standard, obviously just a typo for *now*. So I've fixed it ... On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:20 PM, J. Michael Morse wrote: > Adobe has relinquished control of the format: > > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/02/adobes_pdf_format_now_an_iso_standard.html I have a friend who owns a company that specializes in creating customized PDF solutions for companies. -- Michael J. 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I would like to lightscribe my dvds -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 18:38:56 2008 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:38:56 -0400 Subject: knode will not update group list from server Message-ID: <486BCB40.5020002@gmail.com> I'm using knode to monitor a bunch of groups from gmane and wanted to add ubuntu devel changes intrepid. But it does not show up on the list of available groups, so I went to gmane.org and found it there. So, how can I get knode to update to the current list of groups? The only way I could do it was stop knode, remove ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/nntp.1/groups file, then restart. Now, when I do menu Account > Subscribe to new groups, it asks if I want to update. Clicking fetch does indeed fetch the current list and now I can select and add the intrepid group. must be a bug .. hth others From tkg at lanl.gov Wed Jul 2 19:24:57 2008 From: tkg at lanl.gov (Thomas K. Gamble) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:24:57 -0600 Subject: Strange keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <486B9390.2070901@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> <486B9390.2070901@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807021324.57754.tkg@lanl.gov> On Wednesday 02 July 2008 08:41:20 am Wulfy wrote: > Thomas K. Gamble wrote: > > After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the > > numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on > > and the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot > > to a console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. > > I can't find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any > > clues? > > I noticed the same thing when I upgraded to Hardy on my 32-bit system. > My work-around was to install the Keyboard Status Applet on Kicker and > use that the force the light(s) correct. This seems to work although I'd like to know why the problem is there in the first place. Thanks. > > HTH > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann > > Wulf Credo: > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- Thomas K. Gamble System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) Los Alamos National Laboratory MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. Henry Kissinger From vincentpdll at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 20:24:46 2008 From: vincentpdll at yahoo.com (vincent PADILLA) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bootup In-Reply-To: <486AE05A.2050601@verizon.net> Message-ID: <470054.52778.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thanks that work !! well I'm newwie to linux desktops, thanks again !! --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Joel Oliver wrote: > From: Joel Oliver > Subject: Re: bootup > To: vincentpdll at yahoo.com, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:56 PM > Run the memtest86 in the grub boot menu, sounds like a bad > memory stick. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 20:46:07 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:46:07 +0300 Subject: Firefox on KDE4: ugly and will stay ugly (with screenshot) In-Reply-To: <486B7C82.8090701@gmail.com> References: <880dece00806291251s39b3e142o9f4056d4e0d9154e@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807011225j15bcb40q4b22b741dd4e8002@mail.gmail.com> <200807011728.50810.claydoh@midmaine.com> <486B1EE8.10607@gmail.com> <880dece00807020542g2dc10188wa71993d2424fc6a6@mail.gmail.com> <486B7C82.8090701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807021346o507208fdn2ffe0f3cc935f628@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/2 O. Sinclair : > Hopefully a package maintainer sees our > suggestions. > They won't if it's not in Bugzilla. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Wed Jul 2 23:25:07 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:25:07 +0100 Subject: Speech recognition Message-ID: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> I suspect this is a long shot:- Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used with Kubuntu? I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use one to write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu and LaTeX I think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to dictate it directly into the text editor. Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried all the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google has turned up nothing for me. Thanks Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From sgrace at pobox.com Thu Jul 3 01:31:22 2008 From: sgrace at pobox.com (Steve Grace) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:31:22 -0700 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:25 +0100, David Fletcher wrote: > I suspect this is a long shot:- > > Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used > with Kubuntu? I believe there was a thread about this last December either on kubuntu-users or ubuntu-users. The conclusion was that there were no FOSS solutions but that some slightly older versions of Naturally Speaking for Windows (but not the latest version at the time) worked fine using WINE. I think I saved the information somewhere and can look it up if you need me to. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Jul 3 03:28:26 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:28:26 -0500 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> Message-ID: <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:25 +0100, David Fletcher wrote: > >> I suspect this is a long shot:- >> >> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used >> with Kubuntu? >> I don't know much more than the description, but if you open Adept and search for "speech" it will bring up three possibilities, as well as a lot of other stuff. Speex, sphinx, and transcriber. Don't know if they will do what you want but take a look. -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 06:31:39 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:31:39 +0400 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> Message-ID: <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> Dana J. Laude пишет: > Well, I'm using a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 on the desktop, and a GeForce > 8600M GS on my laptop and all is well. Both have 256MB of ram and they > work fine for me. Compiz works fine on both computers, although the > desktop is a tad slow. (only has 512MB of ram on a AMD 1.6Ghz cpu) > > Both systems are using the proprietary drivers provided from Kubuntu. > (nvidia vs nv) > > Dana > Nvidia 8x and 9x series have very bad proprietary drivers for linux. Even 2D performance is very pure. See related forum for details: http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=d374877913395c937d2d4bfa9bf6bde5&f=14 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 06:55:15 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:55:15 +0200 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 Message-ID: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> In firefox 3 I clicked on a mailto: link and was told to choose between kmail and yahoo mail. However, clicking in Kmail absolutely nothing happens. Anyone knows why and how to make FF3 call Kmail/Kontact when clicking on mailto: links? btw on Kubuntu 8.04 w updates, Sinclair From aikurn at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 07:16:36 2008 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:16:36 +0200 Subject: dvd disc label images In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/2 John Pierce : > Are there any images that can be printed on the face of a dvd disc for > the kubuntu ditro. > > I would like to lightscribe my dvds > Hey John, A good place for finding CD labels and covers is Ubuntu's DIYMarketing page [1]. And more specifically, Kubuntu-Art.org [2] has a label for LightScribe that you may like. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing [2] http://www.kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=83692 Greetings, -- Leticia Hernández -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 3 09:13:51 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:13:51 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <486C984F.7000502@sbcglobal.net> David Fletcher wrote: > I suspect this is a long shot:- > > Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used with > Kubuntu? > > I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use one to > write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu and LaTeX I > think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to dictate it > directly into the text editor. > > Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried all > the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google has > turned up nothing for me. > > Thanks > > Dave > > > I was interested too when I first moved to Kubuntu. I could not find any though. I haven't tried Wine, the Windows emulator, but it may work. I use Wine for a program called e-Sword and it works just the same if I were using Windows. Steven From mspinthiras at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:22:38 2008 From: mspinthiras at gmail.com (Mario Spinthiras) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:22:38 +0300 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> Message-ID: FFMPEG can help you out. If you are looking into grabbing the FLV from youtube and converting it , playing with it , then I suggest ffmpeg. As far as Audio editing , I am not sure what UbuntuStudio uses in their pleathora of applications but basic things can be accomplished with Audacity which can be installed from the repositories. ffmpeg it is. -- Warm Regards, Mario A. Spinthiras Blog: http://www.spinthiras.net Mail: mspinthiras at gmail.com Skype: smario125 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:28:51 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:28:51 +0200 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> Message-ID: <486C9BD3.6050005@gmail.com> Bill Vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? > How about adjusting the audio level on these? Some stuff I've seen, you > just about jump out of your skin when they start up, and once you get > them shut down, you have to go up on the roof to replace the shingles. > If you use Firefox there is an Addon called Downloadhelper to do exactly that, works so-so but not perfect. Sinclair From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Jul 3 09:59:09 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (david) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:59:09 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Files report: was "Re: How to clean out ~/home" In-Reply-To: <486B7A45.5070600@gmail.com> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486B7A45.5070600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:53:25 am Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Paul, Dear Everybody > > A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: > * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another > computer or at an external HD > * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the > software installed at your PC > * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere > * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ > overwriting the old configuration. > * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to > add to it all the software you have been using before. > > If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and > use a KUBUNTU FILES report. I'd be interested in this. :-) I maintain a couple kubuntu installs for family and when I do a fresh install for an upgrade I get tired of configuring everything all over again. -- David M. From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Thu Jul 3 10:25:05 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:25:05 +0100 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> Message-ID: <486CA901.7020800@candt.waitrose.com> Bill Vance wrote: > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? try either or both: http://keepvid.com/ http://vixy.net/ -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:57:43 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:57:43 +0300 Subject: Strange keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> References: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> Message-ID: <15edeae40807030357s4bb9f256o1c46b68154a8be85@mail.gmail.com> this also happened with me on hardy (32 bit), when i set the numlock to be on at startup, it started to be **ON** but the LED working in reverse! 2008/7/2 Thomas K. Gamble : > After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the > numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on > and > the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot to a > console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. I can't > find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any clues? > > -- > Thomas K. Gamble > System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer > Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) > Los Alamos National Laboratory > MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 > > There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. > Henry Kissinger > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Will Rogers - "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 11:44:35 2008 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:44:35 +0200 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486C984F.7000502@sbcglobal.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486C984F.7000502@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200807031344.35463.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 11:13:51 schrieb Steven Vollom: > I was interested too when I first moved to Kubuntu.  I could not find > any though.  I haven't tried Wine, the Windows emulator, but it may > work.  I use Wine for a program called e-Sword and it works just the > same if I were using Windows. hmm, when I google for a program named 'e-Sword', I only get hits for some bible learning programme. That sounds not like a speech recognition tool. -- Greets, Ulrich ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø We'll never know wat the road before us looks like, until we go . . . ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø OS: Kubuntu 7.10 (Linux) Web: de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/ From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Thu Jul 3 12:07:28 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:07:28 +0100 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807031344.35463.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486C984F.7000502@sbcglobal.net> <200807031344.35463.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <20080703120741.791E812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> At 12:44 03/07/2008, you wrote: >hmm, when I google for a program named 'e-Sword', I only get hits for some >bible learning programme. That sounds not like a speech recognition tool. Confirmed. Dave From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:19:03 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:19:03 +0200 Subject: dvd disc label images In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807031419.04082.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 03 July 2008 09:16:36 Leticia Hernández wrote: > A good place for finding CD labels and covers is Ubuntu's DIYMarketing page > [1]. And more specifically, Kubuntu-Art.org [2] has a label for LightScribe > that you may like. > > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing > [2] http://www.kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=83692 I'll add this one: http://www.aldolat.it/grafica/custodie-copertine-ed-etichette-per-ubuntu-hardy-heron/ It's not in english, but I 'd bet there's an english version. If not, the contents are obvious. ;) -- lanzen From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:47:58 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:47:58 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : > I suspect this is a long shot:- > > Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used with > Kubuntu? > > I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use one to > write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu and LaTeX I > think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to dictate it > directly into the text editor. > > Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried all > the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google has > turned up nothing for me. > He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating arbitrary text. For instance, while your friend might dictate one character discussing a new display with another character, the reader might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dlouhy at charter.net Thu Jul 3 12:56:28 2008 From: dlouhy at charter.net (Jonathan Dlouhy) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:56:28 -0400 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1215089788.23573.1.camel@ultimate-desktop> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 08:55 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > In firefox 3 I clicked on a mailto: link and was told to choose between > kmail and yahoo mail. However, clicking in Kmail absolutely nothing > happens. Anyone knows why and how to make FF3 call Kmail/Kontact when > clicking on mailto: links? > > btw on Kubuntu 8.04 w updates, > > Sinclair Sinclair, have you gone to System/Preferences/Preferred Applications? If not, you can set several things there including default email, browser, etc. Cheers, -- Jonathan Dlouhy ========== Quantum Computers 404-428-7088 www.quantumcomputerguys.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This comes from "inside" Firefox as it suggest Yahoo mail as alternative (that I NEVER use...) From charioteer7 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 14:16:57 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:16:57 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <646a014e0807030716v475bf254if9074fc0723a947d@mail.gmail.com> Dotan: Check out this article in the NY Times from 2006 on Dragon's Naturally Speaking 9. Around 99.4 % accuracy, and that was two years ago. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E5D6163FF933A15754C0A 9609C8B63&scp=1&sq=dragon%20nuance%209.0&st=cse Yes, you can have a secretary in your PC, but we want a Kubuntu version. That may not exist. wine or win4lin may be the only way to do it. At http://appdb.winehq.org/ you can check for how well windows apps run on Wine. Dragon Naturally speaking version 9 is rated a 'silver', meaning that it runs very well with some configuration. Cheers, Geoffrey Bays On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : >> I suspect this is a long shot:- >> >> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used with >> Kubuntu? >> >> I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use one to >> write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu and LaTeX I >> think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to dictate it >> directly into the text editor. >> >> Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried all >> the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google has >> turned up nothing for me. >> > > He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for > sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating > arbitrary text. For instance, while your friend might dictate one > character discussing a new display with another character, the reader > might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Jul 3 14:40:52 2008 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Michael Leone) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:40:52 -0400 Subject: Adobe's pdf is now an ISO standard. In-Reply-To: <486CE161.4050006@gmail.com> References: <486CE161.4050006@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Michael wrote: > Michael Leone wrote: >> Your original subject line said *not* a standard, obviously just a >> typo for *now*. So I've fixed it ... >> > Thanks. I am such a hypocrite. I'll be the first to point out > someone's grammar and spelling errors and yet don't review my own posts > before hitting the send key! I was actually trying to help, so that anyone who read your post later didn't think that the PDF format was non-standard, as opposed to now being a standard. Appreciate the sarcasm, tho. And the cutting of the rest of my post, which actually had something to do with PDFs and their ubiquity. And I understand it, too, as I might have knee-jerk reacted that way, too. But I wasn't criticizing your spelling or grammaring, but hoping to clear up a misconception. Because until I clicked the link, I thought you were saying that PDF format was not a standard, and I knew it was. So to avoid the same confusion for others, I mentioned that the subject line was incorrect. > Happy Fourth of July Weekend And you! Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- Michael J. Leone, PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Photo Gallery: I couldn't understand your attitude. I only wanted to take a photograph of you, But I was shocked when I heard what you had to say. You picked up my camera, threw it away, I didn't really mean to ruin your day. -- "Heart of Gold", the Kinks From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Jul 3 14:50:02 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:50:02 +0300 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> Message-ID: <486CE71A.3090506@mail.ee> > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? I discovered the program PyTube: http://www.bashterritory.com/pytube/ - original webpage http://www.tuxsoftware.com/home/component/content/194?task=view http://www.linux.com/feature/133157 - more reading From mdshaw89 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 15:07:21 2008 From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <486CE71A.3090506@mail.ee> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> <486CE71A.3090506@mail.ee> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? > > I discovered the program PyTube: > http://www.bashterritory.com/pytube/ - original webpage > http://www.tuxsoftware.com/home/component/content/194?task=view > http://www.linux.com/feature/133157 - more reading > > Also there is VideoDownloader - a Firefox plugin: http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php -- Ed: He's worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 3 15:07:51 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:07:51 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <20080703120741.791E812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486C984F.7000502@sbcglobal.net> <200807031344.35463.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> <20080703120741.791E812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <486CEB47.2090700@sbcglobal.net> David Fletcher wrote: > At 12:44 03/07/2008, you wrote: > > >> hmm, when I google for a program named 'e-Sword', I only get hits for some >> bible learning programme. That sounds not like a speech recognition tool. >> > > Confirmed. > > Dave > > > I am sorry, I did not mean that e-Sword was a speech recognition tool. I just meant that it was a Windows program that worked fine on a Linux OS. I am sorry I did not make myself clear. I don't know of any Speech Recognition tools for Kubuntu. I wish I did, I enjoyed the feature. It is fast and sure. e-Sword was a difficult program to get working in Linux, at least for me, however once entered properly it works perfect. I guess what I was trying to say was that perhaps Dragon Naturally Speaking or similar would work using Wine, the Windows emulator for Linux. Steven From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 15:16:16 2008 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:16:16 +0100 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486CEB47.2090700@sbcglobal.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20080703120741.791E812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> <486CEB47.2090700@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200807031616.16972.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:07:51 Steven Vollom wrote: > I am sorry I did not make myself clear. I thought you did. :-) Lisi From joelol75 at verizon.net Thu Jul 3 15:25:47 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:25:47 -0400 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <486CEF7B.4010701@verizon.net> J. Michael Morse wrote: > Top level of ~/home? I am not 100% sure but I doubt that is where the > problem is. The only thing /home contains are the user directories. > There aren't any /essential files/ in the /home directory. > > You already stated that deleting the .kde file didn't work so my bet > is that the issue isn't KDE related. > > > > > Theres alot of config files in a users home directory, they are all .hidden files (ls -lha) I wouldn't destroy all of them (rm .*) Try to find the areas you have problems with first (Like the .kde and .kde4 directory) and just delete those. They will be recreated the next time kde starts up. The global config files are in /etc but those shouldn't need to be changed for kde unless you want it to apply to all new users. From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Thu Jul 3 15:47:26 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:47:26 +0100 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: <486CEF7B.4010701@verizon.net> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486CEF7B.4010701@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080703154403.64FA212880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> At 16:25 03/07/2008, you wrote: >I wouldn't destroy all of them (rm .*) Try to find the areas you have >problems with first (Like the .kde and .kde4 directory) and just delete >those. They will be recreated the next time kde starts up. I'm sitting in front of an XP machine at work |-O right now so I can't check for sure, but aren't things like the kdewallet stored under ~/.kde? What I'm saying is, be careful what you delete. Might be better to hide it from the system by renaming it, then it can easily be restored. Dave From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Jul 3 15:43:56 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:43:56 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Files report: was "Re: How to clean out ~/home" In-Reply-To: <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486B7A45.5070600@gmail.com> <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <486CF3BC.7030506@rmk.co.il> david wrote: > On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:53:25 am Bas Roufs wrote: >> Dear Paul, Dear Everybody >> >> A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: >> * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another >> computer or at an external HD >> * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the >> software installed at your PC >> * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere >> * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ >> overwriting the old configuration. >> * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to >> add to it all the software you have been using before. >> >> If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and >> use a KUBUNTU FILES report. > > I'd be interested in this. :-) I maintain a couple kubuntu installs for family > and when I do a fresh install for an upgrade I get tired of configuring > everything all over again. > You could try looking here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-package.en.html#s-record It is for Debian but should work for Kubuntu YMMV Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 3 15:45:08 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:45:08 -0400 Subject: Google Earth / lib32nss-mdns In-Reply-To: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> References: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486CF404.8080904@sbcglobal.net> Michael wrote: > 8.04 > ------ > > I have successfully installed GoogleEarth. However, it won't connect to > the internet which apparently is due to something that only shows up as > Error 29. After googling "googleearth" and "error 29", the only > solution that was posted was to install lib32nss-mdns. > When I sudo apt-get install lib32nss-mdns, it says file not found. Is > there a repository that contains this file? > > Michael > > Dear Michael, When I had Kubuntu Gutsy as my OS, there was a program called Automatix2. It contained all the programs that decode movies and the like, as well as Google Earth. It apparently contained the appropriate dependencies to make it work. Since I installed Hardy, I have noticed that certain things do not work that did in Gutsy. Automatix2 is one of them. Perhaps the software that is needed is not made yet. I don't know. I haven't installed it yet. I will try to see if I can install Google Earth using Adept Package Manager, if it works, I will let you know. I have cleaned up and organized the work area at the church. The cabinets below the desk contain most of what is needed. I made a portable workbench out of one of the carts and put Hard Drives on the second shelf. I put the only Motherboard that I found on the top, screwed to a board that is clamped onto the cart. I think it will work better than using the desk, because it is portable. You can rotate it to work from the side or back if that helps installation of anything. I tried to install Kubuntu on a couple of hard drives, but did not have my copy of Gparted, so I was unable to take the HD from Windows to Kubuntu. If you are able to partition to an Ext3 file type and are there before the work is completed, you can finish what I started. There is a copy of Kubuntu 8.04 in the file on the right. Tools are in the smallest drawer in the center of the right computer. The smaller computer that has a 2000 installation belongs to Charlie Lightle. It needs inistallation work so that it will function. They have not provided us with any Legal copies of Windows Os's, so I don't know how we can make Windows systems. They are preferred by people who like to play games; Kubuntu doesn't do that very well. I sure would appreciate your ideas. If I can get a copy of Gutsy, I will. That may make your Google Earth problem go away. Steven From pr144 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 15:48:56 2008 From: pr144 at yahoo.com (Peter O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Services Message-ID: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Several services say 'not running', some are some aren't. all are supposed to start at bootup...is this a bug? Pete From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 3 15:53:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:53:59 -0400 Subject: Google Earth / lib32nss-mdns In-Reply-To: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> References: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486CF617.3010004@sbcglobal.net> Michael wrote: > 8.04 > ------ > > I have successfully installed GoogleEarth. However, it won't connect to > the internet which apparently is due to something that only shows up as > Error 29. After googling "googleearth" and "error 29", the only > solution that was posted was to install lib32nss-mdns. > When I sudo apt-get install lib32nss-mdns, it says file not found. Is > there a repository that contains this file? > > Michael > > Dear Michael, I responded because I thought you were a friend from Church. If I have the wrong person, I need to know the Operating System you are attempting to install GoogleEarth to help. My OS is Kubuntu Hardy Heron. I use the KDE desktop and it is easy to install using Adept Package Manager. The last Selection, when you type in googleearth, is the only package you need download to get it up and working. It includes the necessary dependencies to function. If you are operating Windows, you need to download you program from Google. Then re-installation would probably fix your problem. Steven- From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 3 16:22:52 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:22:52 -0400 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807031222.52522.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: > Several services say 'not running', some are some aren't. > > all are supposed to start at bootup...is this a bug? > > Pete Uhhh maybe you could tell us *what* services you think should be running?? Many services are not needed and therefore are not started. From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 17:19:09 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:19:09 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Files report: was "Re: How to clean out ~/home" In-Reply-To: <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486B7A45.5070600@gmail.com> <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <486D0A0D.1050809@gmail.com> david wrote: > On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:53:25 am Bas Roufs wrote: > >> Dear Paul, Dear Everybody >> >> A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: >> * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another >> computer or at an external HD >> * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the >> software installed at your PC >> * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere >> * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ >> overwriting the old configuration. >> * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to >> add to it all the software you have been using before. >> >> If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and >> use a KUBUNTU FILES report. >> > > I'd be interested in this. :-) I maintain a couple kubuntu installs for family > and when I do a fresh install for an upgrade I get tired of configuring > everything all over again. > > Someone gave me useful instructions via the Ubuntu user group. I took over the command chains mentioned by him. But instead of 'ubuntu-files', I generated and used 'kubuntu files'. However it may be: open a console terminal. In my case, I saw this at the black screen: bas at Viaconsensus1 : 'bas' is my user name, 'Viaconsensus1' is the name of the computer. Than type a set of command codes: ~$ sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > kubuntu-files Or better: select this whole command chain from this message. Afterwords, go back to your console terminal and press the TWO buttons of your mouse TOGETHER and AT THE SAME MOMENT. That is the way to EXACTLY copy this chain of UNIX commands into your terminal. One single detail error ('typo') is enough to block everything - so be sure to EXACTLY copy this whole command so. After doing so, I saw the following on the screen in my case: bas at Viaconsensus1 :~$ sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > kubuntu-files Confirm the set of command codes as follows: press the enter button at the key board type your password for sudo press again the enter button. By doing so, you wilI generate a script which you can find in the home directory: 'kubuntu-files'. Now, look for that file via Konqueror or Dolphin. Then, use e.g. Kate to open and read it. And indeed: you will see the WHOLE long list of software installed at your PC along with Kubuntu. The next step is making back-ups of 'kubuntu-files', a quite small file. I put it at the USB stick and I e-mailed it as an attachment to my own GMAIL address. Afterwords I started Kubuntu at my laptop and put my USB stick in an USB port of that machine. Via Konqueror or Dolphin I copied 'kubuntu-files' to the home directory of the laptop. Than I opened a shell console at the laptop. There I saw the following at the screen: bas at Viaconsensus2 : .... and each time a set of command codes next to it. ('viaconsensus2' was the name I gave to the laptop.) Now, first check weather you already installed 'dselect', a little piece of software meant to help you to install software via a console terminal. If you do not have yet 'dselect', use the following commands to install it: sudo apt-get install dselect Afterwords, confirm by means of the Enter key at your key board and allow dselect to be installed. Than, type the following chain of commands: sudo apt-get update (enter, password, enter) sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (enter, password, enter) sudo dpkg --set-selections < kubuntu-files (enter, password, enter) sudo dselect (enter, password, enter) Than choose the THIRD option: install 'preselected packages'. 'Preselected packages' means in this case: the 'kubuntu-files'. !!! Especially if you need to 'update' a bigger amount of software packages, the UNIX command "sudo apt-get update" works better than the daily updates from ADEPT manager'!!! Please, tell to the list and to me weather these instructions help you. Respectfully Yours, Bas Roufs. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From john.j35 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 17:23:06 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:23:06 -0500 Subject: dvd disc label images In-Reply-To: <200807031419.04082.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200807031419.04082.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:19 AM, lanzen wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008 09:16:36 Leticia Hernández wrote: > >> A good place for finding CD labels and covers is Ubuntu's DIYMarketing page >> [1]. And more specifically, Kubuntu-Art.org [2] has a label for LightScribe >> that you may like. >> >> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing >> [2] http://www.kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=83692 > > I'll add this one: > http://www.aldolat.it/grafica/custodie-copertine-ed-etichette-per-ubuntu-hardy-heron/ > > It's not in english, but I 'd bet there's an english version. If not, the > contents are obvious. ;) > > -- > lanzen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Thanks for all your input, appreciated. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From pr144 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 18:38:48 2008 From: pr144 at yahoo.com (Peter O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Services Message-ID: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to start at bootup. In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not running' (but is is running) When I start the service I get this error, Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. noip2. There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at bootup but aren't. ----- Original Message ---- From: Bruce Marshall To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 12:22:52 PM Subject: Re: Services On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: > Several services say 'not running', some are some aren't. > > all are supposed to start at bootup...is this a bug? > > Pete Uhhh maybe you could tell us *what* services you think should be running?? Many services are not needed and therefore are not started. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From pr144 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 18:41:24 2008 From: pr144 at yahoo.com (Peter O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <25819.22798.qm@web52804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am looking to set up a firewall with fwbuilder, I use the wizard compile successfully but get this error when tryin to install. Install firewall: myfire Summary:* firewall name : myfire * user name : saz * management address : 192.168.1.1 * platform : iptables * host OS : linux24 * Loading configuration from file /home/saz/firewall_EMMA.fwb Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 Error: Terminating install sequence From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:44:37 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:44:37 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <646a014e0807030716v475bf254if9074fc0723a947d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <646a014e0807030716v475bf254if9074fc0723a947d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807031144p342c8dfdnfa1330550b7adb44@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/3 Geoffrey Bays : > Yes, you can have a secretary in your PC, but we want a Kubuntu > version. That may not exist. > wine or win4lin may be the only way to do it. > > At http://appdb.winehq.org/ you can check for how well windows apps > run on Wine. > Dragon Naturally speaking version 9 is rated a 'silver', meaning that > it runs very well with some configuration. > Here, write to them: http://support.nuance.com/customerservice/ If we don't ask for Linux software, then they will never write it. We need to be a visible minority. Note that to write to them requires registration, but it's actually rather painless compared to most other sites. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 3 19:15:22 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:15:22 -0400 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807031515.23147.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: > I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to  start at bootup. > > In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not > running' (but is is running) > > When I start the service I get this error, > > Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. > noip2. > > > There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at > bootup but aren't. Are these other services enabled in your: system settings --> advanced --> System services ?? If so, then check your boot messages (dmesg) and see if there are errors. Also check /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/syslog There's lots of places to look for the problem. From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Thu Jul 3 19:58:49 2008 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:58:49 +0100 Subject: Google Earth / lib32nss-mdns In-Reply-To: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> References: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807032058.49858.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:19:00 Michael wrote: > 8.04 > ------ > > I have successfully installed GoogleEarth. However, it won't connect to > the internet which apparently is due to something that only shows up as > Error 29. After googling "googleearth" and "error 29", the only > solution that was posted was to install lib32nss-mdns. > When I sudo apt-get install lib32nss-mdns, it says file not found. Is > there a repository that contains this file? How did you install GoogleEarth? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 20:05:26 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:05:26 -0600 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486D3106.6060702@gmail.com> Peter O'Reilly said the following at 07/03/2008 12:38 PM : > I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to start at bootup. > > In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not running' (but is is running) > > When I start the service I get this error, > > Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. > noip2. > > > There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at bootup but aren't. > When it comes to this area, Kubuntu has always left me wondering what on Earth is going on. The most important thing I have to say is to reassure you that almost certainly everything is OK (for some value of the work "OK"). My system, for example, also has postfix running and has postfix set to run at boot, but System Settings in KDE happily tells me that it is not running. Ditto for lots of other services. Coming from Mandriva, this makes no sense to me. But I've gradually come to accept that Kubuntu has some (unknown) rationale for the reason why it tells me that things aren't running when manifestly they are. To me, it's one of those "life is too short for me to try to figure out what was going on in the authors' minds when they wrote this part of the GUI" things. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Jul 3 21:06:22 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:06:22 -0400 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> Message-ID: <200807031706.29389.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 03 July 2008 4:27:04 am Bill Vance wrote: > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? I used to like Firefox plugin UnPlug; now I prefer the plugin DownloadHelper. > How about adjusting the audio level on these? FFMPEG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jrbernardes at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 21:11:22 2008 From: jrbernardes at gmail.com (Jose Ricardo Bernardes) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:11:22 -0300 Subject: black border problem Message-ID: Hello people.. im sorry for my english... im from brazil.. so... my problem is that a installed kubuntu 8.04 in my notebook toshiba 1800 and the screen has now black border over the four sides... I am googling this problem for the past 2 days and I tried many things, the only thing that had changed something is that: I included this lines in my xorg.conf: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Device "Configured Video Device" Defaultdepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Virtual 1024 768 My resolution have changed to 1024x768, but, the black borders are still there... so I cant see the start bar and everything behind the black border... what do I do?? :( byebye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Jul 3 22:02:21 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:02:21 +0300 Subject: black border problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486D4C6D.2030209@mail.ee> > im sorry for my english... im from brazil.. Don't worry, we understand you quite well. My motherlanguage is also not english... > so... my problem is that a installed kubuntu 8.04 in my notebook toshiba > 1800 and the screen has now black border over the four sides... It seems like it's Toshiba Satellite 1800. The search http://www.google.com/search?q=toshiba+1800 gave me the address (4th link) http://michaelminn.com/linux/toshiba1800/ which is "Linux on the Toshiba Satellite 1800-S203" and there is Ubuntu used for example and this article is written on 24th June 2008, so quite fresh story. There is also exact xorg.conf written down - perhaps can you get some ideas from there. I will not copy whole example here - you can read it yourself and test that xorg.conf Be sure you will do backup at first from your original xorg.conf file: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_original.conf It seems like this laptop is using some kind of trident device as graphic card and kernel driver module name is also trident. > I am googling this problem for the past 2 days and I tried many things, I tried this search - http://www.google.com/search?q=toshiba+1800+black+borders ... and results: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4802426 - same problem with same laptop http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763964 - here is one solution for you Read carefully these forums - there are different experiences from different people - you have just try these different solutions to find out, what is best for your laptop. E.g. here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763964&page=2 is another xorg.conf example for you - try this. And keep in mind, that if X will not start, then use CTRL+ALT+F1...F6 to get console and ALT+F1...F6 to switch between virtual consoles at terminal. ALT+F7 will get you back into X session at display :0 Also there is useful to have in GRUB recovery mode - then you will get your laptop booted even when X is not working. Actually you should get your laptop booted even if X will not start. You will be just noticed, that there was some problems during X start and you will get terminal to log in. Also investigate log files: /var/log/Xorg.0.log - main log file examining X errors /var/log/messages - there will be also system messages about X behaviour /var/log/debug - also there might be some messages /var/log/kdm.log - K Display Manager log might also give some information (if you use KDE) Best Regards, Edmund From pr144 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 22:09:23 2008 From: pr144 at yahoo.com (Peter O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Services Message-ID: <192442.13782.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yes they are enabled in "system settings --> advanced --> System services ??" This services interface is completely broken and does not work at all. This is a major bug. I can't tell if a service is running unless I try and start/stop/restart....on every service listed. ----- Original Message ---- From: Bruce Marshall To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:15:22 PM Subject: Re: Services On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: > I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to start at bootup. > > In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not > running' (but is is running) > > When I start the service I get this error, > > Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. > noip2. > > > There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at > bootup but aren't. Are these other services enabled in your: system settings --> advanced --> System services ?? If so, then check your boot messages (dmesg) and see if there are errors. Also check /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/syslog There's lots of places to look for the problem. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Thu Jul 3 22:15:24 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:15:24 +0100 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:25 +0100, David Fletcher wrote: > > > >> I suspect this is a long shot:- > >> > >> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used > >> with Kubuntu? > >> > > I don't know much more than the description, but if you open Adept and > search for "speech" it will bring up three possibilities, as well as a > lot of other stuff. Speex, sphinx, and transcriber. Don't know if they > will do what you want but take a look. > I've looked at the suggestions, and drawn a complete blank. Unfortunately I don't think there is such an application. If lack of speech input is a "show stopper" for my friend, there will probably be no alternative to running the dreaded Vista with dictation software. Whether it, whatever it is, works with anything other than Office is also an unknown. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Jul 3 22:18:20 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:18:20 +0300 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <25819.22798.qm@web52804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <25819.22798.qm@web52804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486D502C.9030807@mail.ee> > I am looking to set up a firewall with fwbuilder, I use the wizard compile successfully but get this error when tryin to install. I used NARC and it works like a charm - http://www.knowplace.org/pages/howtos/firewalling_with_netfilter_iptables/netfilter_automatic_rule_configurator.php It is command line script but very well commented and it uses iptables to do its work. NARC is just one command line frontend to get iptables configured and run in your way. Installing is very easy - just copy 3 different files into different places, modify the firewall script, update running services and start script as firewall. Everyting is well documented and easy to use. You can put to file /etc/rc.local the following row: /usr/sbin/narc start .... to start NARC automatically at boot. Then after you configured the NARC and started it - you may forget it. It just works. If you need some ports to be open, just reconfigure /etc/narc/narc.conf to fit your needs, restart NARC daemon and that's it! But NARC will not start if there is no IP-address at selected network interface. This is commonly when network interface is just not up or getting IP-address takes some time over DHCP. Then you need some pause before the NARC will start to give some time for network interface starting up: sleep 10; /usr/sbin/narc start ... this "10" is the time in seconds, after when the system will run followed command. If 10 seconds is not enough for your computer - give some more time :) Just test it. You may check firewall working like this: sudo iptables -L or sudo narc status If sudo iptables -L gives you picture like this: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ... then no firewall is working. If NARC is working - there will be much more longer information in table. Best Regards, Edmund From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 3 22:21:54 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:21:54 -0400 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <486D3106.6060702@gmail.com> References: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <486D3106.6060702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807031821.54698.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 03 July 2008, D. R. Evans wrote: > Coming from Mandriva, this makes no sense to me. But I've gradually come to > accept that Kubuntu has some (unknown) rationale for the reason why it > tells me that things aren't running when manifestly they are. To me, it's > one of those "life is too short for me to try to figure out what was going > on in the authors' minds when they wrote this part of the GUI" things. I'm not sure it is kubuntu's fault, other than using KDE to check on system services. Most other distros (I came from SuSE) use their own system tools to configure hardware and services. I wasn't even aware that KDE had a services module. But I would lay the blame with the KDE services routine for any confusion. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 01:51:55 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:51:55 -0400 Subject: Google Earth / lib32nss-mdns In-Reply-To: <486D2A91.4090809@gmail.com> References: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> <486CF617.3010004@sbcglobal.net> <486D2A91.4090809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486D823B.5050901@sbcglobal.net> Michael wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Michael wrote: >> >> >>> 8.04 >>> ------ >>> >>> I have successfully installed GoogleEarth. However, it won't connect to >>> the internet which apparently is due to something that only shows up as >>> Error 29. After googling "googleearth" and "error 29", the only >>> solution that was posted was to install lib32nss-mdns. >>> When I sudo apt-get install lib32nss-mdns, it says file not found. Is >>> there a repository that contains this file? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear Michael, >> >> I responded because I thought you were a friend from Church. If I have >> the wrong person, I need to know the Operating System you are attempting >> to install GoogleEarth to help. My OS is Kubuntu Hardy Heron. I use >> the KDE desktop and it is easy to install using Adept Package Manager. >> The last Selection, when you type in googleearth, is the only package >> you need download to get it up and working. It includes the necessary >> dependencies to function. If you are operating Windows, you need to >> download you program from Google. Then re-installation would probably >> fix your problem. >> >> Steven- >> >> > > Kubuntu 8.04 > > Steven, > > The program installed just fine. However, when I run GoogleEarth, it is > unable > to connect to the internet and gives me an error code 29. I googled > this and the > only solution the appeared was to install lib32nss-mdns. When I apt-get > this, it > says there is no package lib32nss-mdns. There is a libnss-mdns package > that > is already installed. For now, I am rebooting into XP to run > GoogleEarth. Hopefully, > somebody will give me a clue. > > Michael > > > Are you using Kubuntu 8.04 as an operating system? Also are you using KDE 4? I have those as my operating system and desktop and downloaded GoogleEarth using Adept Package Manager. It works perfectly. If you are using a different operating system or desktop it helps to know. I couldn't get Ktorrent to work until I upgraded to KDE4. Now everything works great. I haven't used it long enough to find if there are any bugs that I am not used to, but so far it works perfect. The package libnss-mdns is not in Adept Package Manager unless it is a part of the GoggleEarth package which I suspect it is. If you are using Microsoft Windows, it is a different OS, and I am not too familiar with it. Additionally, sometimes other Linux OS's have a program called Synaptic Package Manager; if you have that program and operate using Linux, you can download GoogleEarth using it, and I believe it will provide all dependencies that are needed to run the program. I am sorry I can't help you any better, my experience is not extensive. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 01:58:32 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:58:32 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> David Fletcher wrote: > On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Billie Walsh wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:25 +0100, David Fletcher wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I suspect this is a long shot:- >>>> >>>> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used >>>> with Kubuntu? >>>> >>>> >> I don't know much more than the description, but if you open Adept and >> search for "speech" it will bring up three possibilities, as well as a >> lot of other stuff. Speex, sphinx, and transcriber. Don't know if they >> will do what you want but take a look. >> >> > > I've looked at the suggestions, and drawn a complete blank. Unfortunately I > don't think there is such an application. > > If lack of speech input is a "show stopper" for my friend, there will probably > be no alternative to running the dreaded Vista with dictation software. > Whether it, whatever it is, works with anything other than Office is also an > unknown. > > Dave > > > > I read another response in this forum and it was suggested that Dragon Naturally Speaking 9 works good in Wine, the Windows emulator. I haven't as yet tried it, but I am going to. I used to use Naturally Speaking for all my word processing. It works super. The programs that I use using Wine work the same as they do on Microsoft OS's. Steven From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 04:07:16 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:07:16 +0200 Subject: Google Earth / lib32nss-mdns In-Reply-To: <486D823B.5050901@sbcglobal.net> References: <486CEDE4.1060702@gmail.com> <486CF617.3010004@sbcglobal.net> <486D2A91.4090809@gmail.com> <486D823B.5050901@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <486DA1F4.4000307@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Michael wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> Michael wrote: >>> >>> >>>> 8.04 >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> I have successfully installed GoogleEarth. However, it won't connect to >>>> the internet which apparently is due to something that only shows up as >>>> Error 29. After googling "googleearth" and "error 29", the only >>>> solution that was posted was to install lib32nss-mdns. >>>> When I sudo apt-get install lib32nss-mdns, it says file not found. Is >>>> there a repository that contains this file? >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Dear Michael, >>> >>> I responded because I thought you were a friend from Church. If I have >>> the wrong person, I need to know the Operating System you are attempting >>> to install GoogleEarth to help. My OS is Kubuntu Hardy Heron. I use >>> the KDE desktop and it is easy to install using Adept Package Manager. >>> The last Selection, when you type in googleearth, is the only package >>> you need download to get it up and working. It includes the necessary >>> dependencies to function. If you are operating Windows, you need to >>> download you program from Google. Then re-installation would probably >>> fix your problem. >>> >>> Steven- >>> >>> >> Kubuntu 8.04 >> >> Steven, >> >> The program installed just fine. However, when I run GoogleEarth, it is >> unable >> to connect to the internet and gives me an error code 29. I googled >> this and the >> only solution the appeared was to install lib32nss-mdns. When I apt-get >> this, it >> says there is no package lib32nss-mdns. There is a libnss-mdns package >> that >> is already installed. For now, I am rebooting into XP to run >> GoogleEarth. Hopefully, >> somebody will give me a clue. >> >> Michael >> >> >> > Are you using Kubuntu 8.04 as an operating system? Also are you using > KDE 4? I have those as my operating system and desktop and downloaded > GoogleEarth using Adept Package Manager. It works perfectly. If you > are using a different operating system or desktop it helps to know. I > couldn't get Ktorrent to work until I upgraded to KDE4. Now everything > works great. I haven't used it long enough to find if there are any > bugs that I am not used to, but so far it works perfect. The package > libnss-mdns is not in Adept Package Manager unless it is a part of the > GoggleEarth package which I suspect it is. If you are using Microsoft > Windows, it is a different OS, and I am not too familiar with it. > Additionally, sometimes other Linux OS's have a program called Synaptic > Package Manager; if you have that program and operate using Linux, you > can download GoogleEarth using it, and I believe it will provide all > dependencies that are needed to run the program. I am sorry I can't > help you any better, my experience is not extensive. Maybe need to point out that for GoogleEarth to be in the package manager you need the medibuntu software repository: www.medibuntu.org as this is non-free software it will not be in the list by default. I have installed using the "download from Google" version and followed their instructions and it works perfect. Since somewhere around 7.04 Kubuntu. It once stopped working, I then reinstalled and it worked again. Regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 06:21:01 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:21:01 +0200 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <192442.13782.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <192442.13782.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486DC14D.90603@gmail.com> Peter O'Reilly wrote: > Yes they are enabled in "system settings --> advanced --> System services ??" > > This services interface is completely broken and does not work at all. This is a major bug. > > I can't tell if a service is running unless I try and start/stop/restart....on every service listed. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bruce Marshall > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:15:22 PM > Subject: Re: Services > > On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: >> I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to start at bootup. >> >> In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not >> running' (but is is running) >> >> When I start the service I get this error, >> >> Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. >> noip2. >> >> >> There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at >> bootup but aren't. > > Are these other services enabled in your: > > system settings --> advanced --> System services ?? > > If so, then check your boot messages (dmesg) and see if there are errors. > > Also check /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log > or /var/log/syslog > > There's lots of places to look for the problem. > never thought about this before but for sure the System Service module does not seem to do the job. Example: I run the WICD for wireless and Firestarter firewall - System service reports both services as "not running" when I can very easily see that they are. Anyone knows an alternative kde gui for this? Sinclair From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Fri Jul 4 08:18:56 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:18:56 +0100 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> At 02:58 04/07/2008, you wrote: > > >I read another response in this forum and it was suggested that Dragon >Naturally Speaking 9 works good in Wine, the Windows emulator. I >haven't as yet tried it, but I am going to. I used to use Naturally >Speaking for all my word processing. It works super. The programs that >I use using Wine work the same as they do on Microsoft OS's. > >Steven I'll certainly be interested in seeing a result on this, but I'll reiterate that its intended use is for writing a book. I'm told that book publishers generally don't thank authors for submitting work as word processor files of any sort, but are very happy indeed to receive LaTeX files. Having had a play with LaTeX over the last couple of weeks and found out how to duplicate my standard letter writing layout with it, I've found that the best editor so far is kate - it knows the LaTeX syntax so it can run the spelling checker properly i.e. it makes no attempt to spell check the formatting instructions. So, if it's possible to run Dragon under Wine, with the dictated text going into kate, that could be the way to go. Dave From gvgter at googlemail.com Fri Jul 4 09:38:34 2008 From: gvgter at googlemail.com (GVG GVG) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:38:34 +0200 Subject: starting Streamzap IR Remote Control when booting Message-ID: <7b03275a0807040238m24c2a050jef083f0ffbd79b1f@mail.gmail.com> Dear List, I run a Kubuntu 8.04 and attached a Streamzap IR Remote Control unit. My problem is that when booting the system, the connected Streamzap USB IR unit doesn't get recognized. I have to unplug and re-plug it in order to make it work! How can I correct that? Here is the dmesg output: -------------- [ 58.459732] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 [ 58.571493] lirc_streamzap[-1]: Streamzap, Inc. Streamzap Remote Control on usb4:3 attached [ 58.571508] lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 0 [ 58.571695] usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_streamzap [ 58.571707] lirc_streamzap $Revision: 1.22 $ registered [ 194.074561] lirc_atiusb: USB remote driver for LIRC $Revision: 1.61 $ [ 194.074575] lirc_atiusb: Paul Miller [ 194.084676] usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_atiusb [ 223.263021] lirc_mceusb2: Philips eHome USB IR Transciever and Microsoft MCE 2005 Remote Control driver for LI RC $Revision: 1.33 $ [ 223.263038] lirc_mceusb2: Daniel Melander , Martin Blatter [ 223.273240] usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_mceusb2 [ 273.124061] lirc_igorplugusb: USB remote driver for LIRC v0.1 [ 273.124074] lirc_igorplugusb: Jan M. Hochstein < hochstein at algo.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> [ 273.134231] usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_igorplugusb [ 346.719505] lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use [ 346.719521] lirc_serial: use 'setserial /dev/ttySX uart none' [ 346.719529] lirc_serial: or compile the serial port driver as module and [ 346.719537] lirc_serial: make sure this module is loaded first [ 358.385179] lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use [ 358.385195] lirc_serial: use 'setserial /dev/ttySX uart none' [ 358.385203] lirc_serial: or compile the serial port driver as module and [ 358.385210] lirc_serial: make sure this module is loaded first ------------------------ Thanks for your help George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair wrote: > Peter O'Reilly wrote: > > Yes they are enabled in "system settings --> advanced --> System > > services ??" > > > > This services interface is completely broken and does not work at all. > > This is a major bug. > > > > I can't tell if a service is running unless I try and > > start/stop/restart....on every service listed. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Bruce Marshall > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:15:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Services > > > > On Thursday 03 July 2008, Peter O'Reilly wrote: > >> I have a service called 'noip' that is supposed to start at bootup. > >> > >> In the left hand pane is says start at bootup 'Yes' and 'service is not > >> running' (but is is running) > >> > >> When I start the service I get this error, > >> > >> Starting dynamic address update: /usr/bin/noip2 already running. > >> noip2. > >> > >> > >> There are other services, like postfix, that are supposed to start at > >> bootup but aren't. > > > > Are these other services enabled in your: > > > > system settings --> advanced --> System services ?? > > > > If so, then check your boot messages (dmesg) and see if there are > > errors. > > > > Also check /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log > > or /var/log/syslog > > > > There's lots of places to look for the problem. > > never thought about this before but for sure the System Service module > does not seem to do the job. Example: I run the WICD for wireless and > Firestarter firewall - System service reports both services as "not > running" when I can very easily see that they are. > > Anyone knows an alternative kde gui for this? > > Sinclair Don't know about a KDE one, but I install the "sysv-rc-conf" package on my Debian, and Kubuntu installs. It's as root on the command line, and is interactive. sudo sysv-rc-conf Nigel. From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 10:24:49 2008 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:24:49 +0200 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <18bb29490807040324q74859645n19484c182b4187b2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 David Fletcher : <----> > Having had a play with LaTeX over the last couple of weeks and found > out how to duplicate my standard letter writing layout with it, I've > found that the best editor so far is kate - it knows the LaTeX syntax > so it can run the spelling checker properly i.e. it makes no attempt > to spell check the formatting instructions. I use the programme 'kile' for LaTeX. Kile is built on top of kate, but specialised for LaTeX use. I don't know Dragon, but it will have some output as ascii, which can be copied into your favoured LaTeX editor. Only thing that has to be done thereafter, is the insertion of the LaTeX commands. Indeed, LaTeX is really great, once one is acquainted with its basics. I use it for about 99% of my writings. -- Greetings, Ulrich ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø . " To faith only the holy is true, to knowledge only the true is holy " . (L. Feuerbach) ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 10:35:57 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:35:57 +0200 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <18bb29490807040324q74859645n19484c182b4187b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> <18bb29490807040324q74859645n19484c182b4187b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807041235.58167.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On the subject of LaTeX -- may I submit my vote for LyX, a very nifty editor that takes most of the hard work out of just writing stuff. I dig it very much and have not fired-up oo writer for almost a year now! \d From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 10:58:37 2008 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:58:37 +0200 Subject: LaTeX Was: Speech recognition Message-ID: <18bb29490807040358o1ebdde40jbf58bdb556e700ea@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 Donn : > On the subject of LaTeX -- may I submit my vote for LyX, a very nifty editor > that takes most of the hard work out of just writing stuff. I dig it very > much and have not fired-up oo writer for almost a year now! LyX makes LaTeX much easier. I used it for more than a year. The reason that I quit with LyX and went for LaTeX (commands) though, is that at one point LyX wasn't able to process its own data anymore (some error in the file I wrote with it). I exported the data to LaTeX and looked manually for the error. This way I learned LaTeX, and I never felt any urge to return to LyX. LaTeX is *very* easy to learn. The best way is to look at example files and read the little booklet 'The (Not So) Short Introduction to LaTeX' http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort.pdf -- Greetings, Ulrich ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø . " To faith only the holy is true, to knowledge only the true is holy " . (L. Feuerbach) ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 11:13:44 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:13:44 +0200 Subject: LaTeX Was: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <18bb29490807040358o1ebdde40jbf58bdb556e700ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <18bb29490807040358o1ebdde40jbf58bdb556e700ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807041313.44252.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort.pdf Hey thanks for that link! Nice to have some more up-to-date info on the subject. I have had to dig into Latex to get lyx to do some tricks, but I don't push the edges too much; happy to let the standard environments just do their thing. \d From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 12:13:51 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:13:51 +0200 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? Message-ID: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> Dear everybody A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main technical specifications: 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB (version 1000). More technical details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in combination with Kubuntu? Thanks for your reflections. Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 12:28:35 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:28:35 +0200 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear everybody > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am > looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always > carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. > > At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version > 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main > technical specifications: > 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM > (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB > (version 1000). > More technical details: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee > PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? > > Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in > combination with Kubuntu? This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a minilaptop "real soon now": http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could be an interesting way to go. Sinclair From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Fri Jul 4 13:30:41 2008 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:30:41 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have a look at the MSI wind. Its very nice and only slightly bigger than the eee. BR Jussi On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Bas Roufs wrote: >> Dear everybody >> >> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >> >> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >> technical specifications: >> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >> (version 1000). >> More technical details: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >> >> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >> >> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >> >> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >> combination with Kubuntu? > This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a > minilaptop "real soon now": > http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 > > and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could > be an interesting way to go. > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Jul 4 13:35:42 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (david) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:35:42 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Files report: was "Re: How to clean out ~/home" In-Reply-To: <486CF3BC.7030506@rmk.co.il> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> <486CF3BC.7030506@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200807040935.43542.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 03 July 2008 11:43:56 am Nigel Ridley wrote: > david wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:53:25 am Bas Roufs wrote: > >> Dear Paul, Dear Everybody > >> > >> A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: > >> * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another > >> computer or at an external HD > >> * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the > >> software installed at your PC > >> * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere > >> * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ > >> overwriting the old configuration. > >> * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to > >> add to it all the software you have been using before. > >> > >> If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and > >> use a KUBUNTU FILES report. > > > > I'd be interested in this. :-) I maintain a couple kubuntu installs for > > family and when I do a fresh install for an upgrade I get tired of > > configuring everything all over again. > > You could try looking here: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-package.en.html#s-reco >rd > > It is for Debian but should work for Kubuntu > YMMV Thanks Nigel. sometime In the next couple days I will be upgrading my mother-in-laws laptop from 7.10 to 8.04. I've decided to do 2 fresh installs with each instruction set from you and bas and see how things work with each. This is something I really need to tackle because I've managed to get 3 people to leave windows and I am trying to find ways to impress them and show them that linux is the better choice. -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Jul 4 13:38:24 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (david) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:38:24 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Files report: was "Re: How to clean out ~/home" In-Reply-To: <486D0A0D.1050809@gmail.com> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200807030559.09855.d.mcglone@att.net> <486D0A0D.1050809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807040938.24493.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 03 July 2008 1:19:09 pm Bas Roufs wrote: > david wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 July 2008 8:53:25 am Bas Roufs wrote: > >> Dear Paul, Dear Everybody > >> > >> A safe, but time consuming method may be as follows: > >> * make a back-up of all your personal files and e-mails at another > >> computer or at an external HD > >> * generate a KUBUNTU FILES report containing an overview of all the > >> software installed at your PC > >> * back-up this KUBUNTU FILES report also elsewhere > >> * make a fresh install 'from scratch' at your HD while reformatting/ > >> overwriting the old configuration. > >> * after installing the basic stuff, use to the KUBUNTU FILES report to > >> add to it all the software you have been using before. > >> > >> If you are interested, I can explain in more detail how to generate and > >> use a KUBUNTU FILES report. > > > > I'd be interested in this. :-) I maintain a couple kubuntu installs for > > family and when I do a fresh install for an upgrade I get tired of > > configuring everything all over again. > > Someone gave me useful instructions via the Ubuntu user group. I took > over the command chains mentioned by him. But instead of 'ubuntu-files', > I generated and used 'kubuntu files'. > > However it may be: open a console terminal. In my case, I saw this at > the black screen: > > bas at Viaconsensus1 : > > 'bas' is my user name, 'Viaconsensus1' is the name of the computer. > > Than type a set of command codes: > > ~$ sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > kubuntu-files > > Or better: select this whole command chain from this message. > Afterwords, go back to your console terminal and press the TWO buttons > of your mouse TOGETHER and AT THE SAME MOMENT. That is the way to > EXACTLY copy this chain of UNIX commands into your terminal. One single > detail error ('typo') is enough to block everything - so be sure to > EXACTLY copy this whole command so. > > After doing so, I saw the following on the screen in my case: > > bas at Viaconsensus1 :~$ sudo dpkg > --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > kubuntu-files > > Confirm the set of command codes as follows: > press the enter button at the key board > type your password for sudo > > press again the enter button. > > By doing so, you wilI generate a script which you can find in the home > directory: 'kubuntu-files'. Now, look for that file via Konqueror or > Dolphin. Then, use e.g. Kate to open and read it. And indeed: you will > see the WHOLE long list of software installed at your PC along with > Kubuntu. > > The next step is making back-ups of 'kubuntu-files', a quite small file. > I put it at the USB stick and I e-mailed it as an attachment to my own > GMAIL address. > > Afterwords I started Kubuntu at my laptop and put my USB stick in an USB > port of that machine. Via Konqueror or Dolphin I copied 'kubuntu-files' > to the home directory of the laptop. Than I opened a shell console at > the laptop. There I saw the following at the screen: > bas at Viaconsensus2 : .... and each time a set > of command codes next to it. ('viaconsensus2' was the name I gave to the > laptop.) > > Now, first check weather you already installed 'dselect', a little piece > of software meant to help you to install software via a console > terminal. If you do not have yet 'dselect', use the following commands > to install it: > > sudo apt-get install dselect > > Afterwords, confirm by means of the Enter key at your key board and > allow dselect to be installed. > > Than, type the following chain of commands: > > sudo apt-get update > (enter, password, enter) > > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > (enter, password, enter) > > sudo dpkg --set-selections < kubuntu-files > (enter, password, enter) > > sudo dselect > (enter, password, enter) > > > Than choose the THIRD option: install 'preselected packages'. > 'Preselected packages' means in this case: the 'kubuntu-files'. > > !!! Especially if you need to 'update' a bigger amount of software > packages, the UNIX command "sudo apt-get update" works better than the > daily updates from ADEPT manager'!!! > > Please, tell to the list and to me weather these instructions help you. > Thank you Bas. I will definitely let everyone know how it goes. -- David M. From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 13:49:00 2008 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:49:00 -0700 Subject: How to get the popup box back. Message-ID: <486E2A4C.7020600@sbcglobal.net> When I download a file I used to get a popup box that asked "What do you want to do with this file? Save open. I checked the box at the bottom of the popup so that it would alway select open file. Now I would like to get the popup box back to be able to select another option on those occasions. I cannot find where to reactivate the popup selection box when I download a file. Thanks for any help. Jerry From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 13:59:58 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:59:58 +0300 Subject: How to get the popup box back. In-Reply-To: <486E2A4C.7020600@sbcglobal.net> References: <486E2A4C.7020600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <486E2CDE.1020307@gmail.com> jerry wrote: > When I download a file I used to get a popup box that asked "What do you > want to do with this file? Save open. > > I checked the box at the bottom of the popup so that it would alway > select open file. Now I would like to get the popup box back to be able > to select another option on those occasions. > > I cannot find where to reactivate the popup selection box when I > download a file. > > Thanks for any help. > > Jerry > > > > Hi Jerry, i understand that you are using firefox, right? if this is the case, go to "edit-->preferences", in the "Main" tab see the downloads section, and choose the option that suits you, you probably want to choose to always ask you where to save the file. if it is not firefox you are using, send us the name of your browser :) hope this works for you -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Fri Jul 4 14:21:08 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:21:08 -0300 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: <20080703154403.64FA212880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486CEF7B.4010701@verizon.net> <20080703154403.64FA212880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807041121.08384.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> El Thursday 03 July 2008 12:47:26 David Fletcher escribió: > At 16:25 03/07/2008, you wrote: > >I wouldn't destroy all of them (rm .*) Try to find the areas you have > >problems with first (Like the .kde and .kde4 directory) and just delete > >those. They will be recreated the next time kde starts up. > > I'm sitting in front of an XP machine at work |-O right now so I > can't check for sure, but aren't things like the kdewallet stored > under ~/.kde? What I'm saying is, be careful what you delete. Might > be better to hide it from the system by renaming it, then it can > easily be restored. > > Dave Yes, I do that most of the times I delete a new directory. You can safely remove any hidden directory or file named as a program you no longer use or you don't mind loseing your settings. I'm deleting now: ~/.picasa ~/.pitivi ~/.kde4 (I installed kopete-kde4, but I'll stick with my old one) ~/.torcs That's the easy part. If you are unsure about a specific directory, rename it and test your system for a while... If nothing is missing, then you can delete it. You can also go into directories like .kde. Specialy you'll want to look into ~/kde/share/apps/ and ~/kde/share/config. Look for the names of the programs you no longer use and remove or delete them. From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 14:23:42 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:23:42 -0400 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > Bas Roufs wrote: > >> Dear everybody >> >> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >> >> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >> technical specifications: >> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >> (version 1000). >> More technical details: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >> >> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >> >> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >> >> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >> combination with Kubuntu? >> > This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a > minilaptop "real soon now": > http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 > > and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could > be an interesting way to go. > > Sinclair > > I have a eeePC 702 8gb 1gb and Fedora 9 installed on it , Fedora had all drivers for hardware, with the exception of the Atheos wierless chipset ,I downloaded madwifii-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz and compiled and it work great including WEP. The wireless chipset is a ar5007eg . livna.org has a madwifi driver also. The eeePC is much faster with the SSD, than the MSI or Everex that has a standard harddrive. Everex Cloud is dog slow. I would recommend the eeePC 901 or 1000 because of the 20gb SSD, that would give you plenty of space to install any Linux distro. I bought a ext. CD/DVD rom to install other OS and put in a 2gb memory for $41.00, speeded up noticeably . From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 3 14:44:58 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:44:58 -0300 Subject: Speech recognition References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : >> I suspect this is a long shot:- >> >> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used >> with Kubuntu? >> >> I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use >> one to write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu >> and LaTeX I think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to >> dictate it directly into the text editor. >> >> Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried >> all the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google >> has turned up nothing for me. > > He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for > sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating > arbitrary text. With current state of the art, it _should_ be possible to dictate reasonably arbitrary text, but I really can't see how anybody who can't take the time to _write_ a book, will ever get a book written. > For instance, while your friend might dictate one > character discussing a new display with another character, the reader > might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. Right. Just like OCR, however accurate it is, you'll spend a lot of time fixing the transcription errors. -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 15:09:46 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:09:46 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <486E3D3A.3090108@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > >> 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : >> >>> I suspect this is a long shot:- >>> >>> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used >>> with Kubuntu? >>> >>> I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use >>> one to write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu >>> and LaTeX I think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to >>> dictate it directly into the text editor. >>> >>> Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've tried >>> all the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and Google >>> has turned up nothing for me. >>> >> He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for >> sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating >> arbitrary text. >> > > With current state of the art, it _should_ be possible to dictate reasonably > arbitrary text, but I really can't see how anybody who can't take the time > to _write_ a book, will ever get a book written. > > >> For instance, while your friend might dictate one >> character discussing a new display with another character, the reader >> might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. >> > > Right. Just like OCR, however accurate it is, you'll spend a lot of time > fixing the transcription errors. > The new programs are so accurate that they almost never err. Steven From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Jul 4 15:51:59 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:51:59 -0500 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? Message-ID: <486E471F.6070607@swbell.net> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear everybody > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am > looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always > carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. > > At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version > 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. > Main technical specifications: 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM > (version 901) or 2 GB RAM > (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB (version 1000). > More technical details: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee > PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? > > Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in > combination with Kubuntu? I have an EeePC 4G that just rocks. I changed out the kiddy desktop system for an xfce desktop. I like that much better. I can swap back and forth with just a couple clicks if I want to. Popped in an 8gig SD card for a second "hard drive" and a couple USB dongles and it's ready to go. Weighs two pounds and has about four hours of battery life. A standard DVD player case makes a dandy case for it [ Radio shack had a really nice one on sale for $19.00 ]. I also added a small USB mouse for convenience. The Asus software repository for it is quite limited. I put in a Debian repo to install a couple things and they worked out with no problem. It does have a few silly idiosyncrasies though. The people at Asus put the system files [ root??? ] on one partition and everything else on a second one. I've been trying to mod it to accept 2gig ram without much success. At first glance it seems quite simple but .......... Load a 2gig enabled kernel into /boot/ and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot with the new kernel. I can't get the system to accept the changes to menu.lst for some stupid reason. Also doesn't have a swap partition either. It seems the word on the street is NOT to use the Asus repos for updates. It seems to screw things up for some reason. My other half got a 900 with XP [ just can not get her over to Linux yet ]. It accepted 2gig ram with no issue. The "hard drive" is partitioned into to drives for some silly reason. XP and all associated files on the first and nothing on the second. Don't understand why they did that but.................. The only thing she doesn't like about it is the location of the speakers. On the 4G they are on either side of the screen. On the 900, because of the larger scree, the speakers are on the bottom of the computer. Sound quality suffers because of it. Her battery life is a little less to. There are, so far as I have heard, two Ubuntu versions specifically for the Eee, Eeebuntu and Xeeebuntu [ I think is the name ]. I haven't heard anything about a Keeebuntu yet. I have Eeebuntu downloaded but haven't done anything with it yet. I wanted to install it on a USB dongle and use it like a live CD before I tried installing it. I have a new Gateway full size laptop [ excellent Kubuntu machine, by the way ] but it's heavy and hard to carry around for most just day to day stuff. The Asus EeePC is better than a PDA/PDA phone. Has more features without that much gain in weight. I love it. With Asus' success with the Eee I'm sure EVERYONE will be jumping on the bandwagon soon. -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Fri Jul 4 16:35:25 2008 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:35:25 +0100 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486E514D.8090804@ronnietucker.co.uk> I did a write up on my blog about installing Kubuntu 8.04 Remix on the EEE: http://ronnietucker.co.uk/blog/asus-eee-701-with-kubuntu-804-kde41/ Worked really well, even with the KDE 4.1 desktop effects on Although I do admit, it has now been replaced by pupEEE, as I don't need all the bells and whistles of KDE 4.1 :/ > Dear everybody > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am > looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always > carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. > > At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version > 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main > technical specifications: > 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM > (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB > (version 1000). > More technical details: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee > PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? > > Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in > combination with Kubuntu? > > Thanks for your reflections. > > > Bas. > > -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk MSN: ronnietucker at hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From jdz99 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 4 16:42:39 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:42:39 +0000 Subject: firewall Message-ID: I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting this error, Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 Error: Terminating install sequence I tried this, http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4586134 ...but now I get this error, Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc *** Fatal error : --**--**-- Done bash: /etc/emma.fw: Permission denied Error: Terminating install sequence ....any suggestions? Perhaps someone could suggest a similar, easy to use firewall?? I'ts a simple network...my Kubuntu server/router allows internet access to one other machine... Thank you, Jim _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 16:58:11 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:58:11 -0600 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486E56A3.8000304@gmail.com> Peter O'Reilly said the following at 07/03/2008 09:48 AM : > Several services say 'not running', some are some aren't. > > all are supposed to start at bootup...is this a bug? > I have filed bug #245596. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From fred.schaer at free.fr Fri Jul 4 17:00:37 2008 From: fred.schaer at free.fr (Frederic Schaer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:00:37 +0200 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> firewall builder is trying to setup the firewall using *root* account : it connects via ssh to 127.0.0.1 for you, so you'll probably want to check that root account has a password (and enter this one when asked), and that root is allowed to connect via ssh on 127.0.0.1. I don't think fwbuiled is able to use sudo (and that's a pity) when installing the firewall, so don't try with your standard user account (I guess this is the cause of the permission denied error) Personnally, to secure a bit the ssh thing, I have this line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config : PermitRootLogin yes AllowUsers me root at localhost Hope that helps... Cheers Jim Douglas a écrit : > I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting > this error, > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc > SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 > Error: Terminating install sequence > > I tried this, > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4586134 > > ...but now I get this error, > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc > *** Fatal error : > --**--**-- Done bash: /etc/emma.fw: Permission denied > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > ....any suggestions? > > Perhaps someone could suggest a similar, easy to use firewall?? I'ts > a simple network...my Kubuntu server/router allows internet access to > one other machine... > > > Thank you, > Jim > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? Find > out now. > From jdz99 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 4 17:17:27 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:17:27 +0000 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> Message-ID: when I installed Kubuntu I set up a non root username, "sa" ...is there a default "root" password? I don't remember it asking for a root password...just an initial account un/pw ... > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:00:37 +0200 > From: fred.schaer at free.fr > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: firewall > > firewall builder is trying to setup the firewall using *root* account : > it connects via ssh to 127.0.0.1 for you, so you'll probably want to > check that root account has a password (and enter this one when asked), > and that root is allowed to connect via ssh on 127.0.0.1. I don't think > fwbuiled is able to use sudo (and that's a pity) when installing the > firewall, so don't try with your standard user account (I guess this is > the cause of the permission denied error) > > Personnally, to secure a bit the ssh thing, I have this line in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config : > > PermitRootLogin yes > AllowUsers me root at localhost > > Hope that helps... > Cheers > > Jim Douglas a écrit : > > I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting > > this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc > > SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > I tried this, > > > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4586134 > > > > ...but now I get this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc > > *** Fatal error : > > --**--**-- Done bash: /etc/emma.fw: Permission denied > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > > > ....any suggestions? > > > > Perhaps someone could suggest a similar, easy to use firewall?? I'ts > > a simple network...my Kubuntu server/router allows internet access to > > one other machine... > > > > > > Thank you, > > Jim > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? Find > > out now. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Fri Jul 4 17:20:03 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:20:03 +0300 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E5BC3.1070602@mail.ee> Jim Douglas kirjutas: > I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting error > ....any suggestions? I used NARC and it works like a charm - http://www.knowplace.org/pages/howtos/firewalling_with_netfilter_iptables/netfilter_automatic_rule_configurator.php I suggest it also to you! It is command line script but very well commented and it uses iptables to do its work. NARC is just one command line frontend to get iptables configured and run in your way. Installing is very easy - just copy 3 different files into different places, modify the firewall script, update running services and start script as firewall. Everyting is well documented and easy to use. You can put to file /etc/rc.local the following row: /usr/sbin/narc start .... to start NARC automatically at boot. Then after you configured the NARC and started it - you may forget it. It just works. If you need some ports to be open, just reconfigure /etc/narc/narc.conf to fit your needs, restart NARC daemon and that's it! But NARC will not start if there is no IP-address at selected network interface. This is commonly when network interface is just not up or getting IP-address takes some time over DHCP. Then you need some pause before the NARC will start to give some time for network interface starting up: sleep 10; /usr/sbin/narc start ... this "10" is the time in seconds, after when the system will run followed command. If 10 seconds is not enough for your computer - give some more time :) Just test it. You may check firewall working like this: sudo iptables -L or sudo narc status If sudo iptables -L gives you picture like this: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ... then no firewall is working. If NARC is working - there will be much more longer information in table. Best Regards, Edmund From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Fri Jul 4 17:23:46 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:23:46 +0200 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:44, Derek Broughton wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : > >> I suspect this is a long shot:- > >> > >> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used > >> with Kubuntu? > >> > >> I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use > >> one to write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu > >> and LaTeX I think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to > >> dictate it directly into the text editor. > >> > >> Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've > >> tried all the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and > >> Google has turned up nothing for me. > > > > He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for > > sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating > > arbitrary text. > > With current state of the art, it _should_ be possible to dictate > reasonably arbitrary text, but I really can't see how anybody who can't > take the time to _write_ a book, will ever get a book written. > > > For instance, while your friend might dictate one > > character discussing a new display with another character, the reader > > might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. > > Right. Just like OCR, however accurate it is, you'll spend a lot of time > fixing the transcription errors. > -- > derek I somehow that we're still a long way from getting accurate text from speech. It works well on Star Trek, where you can have a conversion with the computer, and Cap't Picard can submit his log. I remember one Star Trek film, where they went back in time, and Scottie tried to talk to an ancient computer, then realised that you had to type your request on a keyboard "of all things". Text to speech works ok, but there you have a synthesizer (or is that synthesiser), which changes the text to speech. Words like "there", "their", and "they're", all sound the same, but have different meanings, but from the listeners viewpoint, the context tells you which is which. Going the other way, speech to text, it's a whole different ballgame. Looking at the example above, and assuming that everone spoke exactly the same way (no problems with different dialects), the computer would still need to understand the context of what was being dictated, so as to print "there", "their", or "they're". of course when you bring different dialects into the equation, it gets really complex. The differences I've found, are usually with the pronunciation of vowels, which can very often, at first, make it difficult to understand what someone is saying, but you sort of get tuned in after a while, but we are humaan, and not a computer. In the UK there are some strong dialects, Geordie, Glaswegian (in scotland), and many others. Looking at 2 examples from Wales, and Northern Ireland, the word tongue in Wales is pronounced as tong, and the word film in Northern Ireland is pronounced as filim, and the name of the actor who plays Chief O'Brien in Star Trek, who's first name is Colm, is pronounced Colim. At this point in time, I personally see a problem in computers converting speech to text. I recently listened to a broadcast on the BBC's world service "Digital Planet", and Amtrak in the US seem to be using speech communication to a computer to get info for train times, etc. I recently had a problem with a parcel not being delivered in France, and contacting Chronopost by telephone, was asked to speak my parcel reference No into the machine. On the premise that you ask, so I do, I spoke each letter, and number into the phone. Nothing. Then I'm asked to repeat the parcel reference, which I do, but still nothing. To be fair, I'm English, and perhaps the computer has some problem with my pronunciation. Now I appreciate that this was direct communication by speech with another machine, but I believe that accurate speech to text is going to take quite some time to achieve. Just some observations, and comments. Nigel. From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Jul 4 17:38:00 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:38:00 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> Jim wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> Bas Roufs wrote: >> >>> Dear everybody >>> >>> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >>> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >>> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >>> >>> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >>> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >>> technical specifications: >>> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >>> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >>> (version 1000). >>> More technical details: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >>> >>> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >>> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >>> >>> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >>> combination with Kubuntu? >>> >> This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a >> minilaptop "real soon now": >> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 >> >> and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could >> be an interesting way to go. >> >> Sinclair >> >> > I have a eeePC 702 8gb 1gb and Fedora 9 installed on it , Fedora had all > drivers for hardware, with the exception of > the Atheos wierless chipset ,I downloaded > madwifii-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz and compiled and it work great including > WEP. The wireless chipset is a ar5007eg . livna.org has a madwifi driver > also. > The eeePC is much faster with the SSD, than the MSI or Everex that has > a standard harddrive. Everex Cloud is dog slow. > I would recommend the eeePC 901 or 1000 because of the 20gb SSD, that > would give you plenty of space to install any Linux distro. > I bought a ext. CD/DVD rom to install other OS and put in a 2gb memory > for $41.00, speeded up noticeably . > > How many writes can the 'hard disk' take, considering that it's flash memory? Linux does write a lot to 'hard disk'. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 17:58:27 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:58:27 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00807041058m482ed1bcpad1043a519cfbdc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 Nigel Henry : > I somehow that we're still a long way from getting accurate text from speech. > It works well on Star Trek, where you can have a conversion with the > computer, and Cap't Picard can submit his log. I remember one Star Trek film, > where they went back in time, and Scottie tried to talk to an ancient > computer, then realised that you had to type your request on a keyboard "of > all things". > > Text to speech works ok, but there you have a synthesizer (or is that > synthesiser), which changes the text to speech. Words like "there", "their", > and "they're", all sound the same, but have different meanings, but from the > listeners viewpoint, the context tells you which is which. > > Going the other way, speech to text, it's a whole different ballgame. Looking > at the example above, and assuming that everone spoke exactly the same way > (no problems with different dialects), the computer would still need to > understand the context of what was being dictated, so as to print "there", > "their", or "they're". of course when you bring different dialects into the > equation, it gets really complex. > > The differences I've found, are usually with the pronunciation of vowels, > which can very often, at first, make it difficult to understand what someone > is saying, but you sort of get tuned in after a while, but we are humaan, and > not a computer. > > In the UK there are some strong dialects, Geordie, Glaswegian (in scotland), > and many others. Looking at 2 examples from Wales, and Northern Ireland, the > word tongue in Wales is pronounced as tong, and the word film in Northern > Ireland is pronounced as filim, and the name of the actor who plays Chief > O'Brien in Star Trek, who's first name is Colm, is pronounced Colim. > > At this point in time, I personally see a problem in computers converting > speech to text. > > I recently listened to a broadcast on the BBC's world service "Digital > Planet", and Amtrak in the US seem to be using speech communication to a > computer to get info for train times, etc. > > I recently had a problem with a parcel not being delivered in France, and > contacting Chronopost by telephone, was asked to speak my parcel reference No > into the machine. On the premise that you ask, so I do, I spoke each letter, > and number into the phone. Nothing. Then I'm asked to repeat the parcel > reference, which I do, but still nothing. To be fair, I'm English, and > perhaps the computer has some problem with my pronunciation. Now I appreciate > that this was direct communication by speech with another machine, but I > believe that accurate speech to text is going to take quite some time to > achieve. > > Just some observations, and comments. > > Nigel. > > Nigel, you should definetly see this (requires flash): http://www.nuance.com/talk/ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Jul 4 17:57:40 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:57:40 -0500 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <486E6494.2000907@swbell.net> Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:44, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : >>> >>>> I suspect this is a long shot:- >>>> >>>> Does anybody know of any speech recognition software that can be used >>>> with Kubuntu? >>>> >>>> I have an acquaintance who has never owned a computer, but wants to use >>>> one to write a book. He can be nudged in the direction of using Kubuntu >>>> and LaTeX I think, but he says he's not got time to type it. He wants to >>>> dictate it directly into the text editor. >>>> >>>> Does anybody know of any applications that can do this please? I've >>>> tried all the search strings I can think of in the Adept installer, and >>>> Google has turned up nothing for me. >>>> >>> He wants a secretary, not a computer. Speech recognition is used for >>> sending preconfigured commands to the computer, not for dictating >>> arbitrary text. >>> >> With current state of the art, it _should_ be possible to dictate >> reasonably arbitrary text, but I really can't see how anybody who can't >> take the time to _write_ a book, will ever get a book written. >> >> >>> For instance, while your friend might dictate one >>> character discussing a new display with another character, the reader >>> might be surprised to see the characters discussing a nudist play. >>> >> Right. Just like OCR, however accurate it is, you'll spend a lot of time >> fixing the transcription errors. >> -- >> derek >> > > I somehow that we're still a long way from getting accurate text from speech. > It works well on Star Trek, where you can have a conversion with the > computer, and Cap't Picard can submit his log. I remember one Star Trek film, > where they went back in time, and Scottie tried to talk to an ancient > computer, then realised that you had to type your request on a keyboard "of > all things". > > Text to speech works ok, but there you have a synthesizer (or is that > synthesiser), which changes the text to speech. Words like "there", "their", > and "they're", all sound the same, but have different meanings, but from the > listeners viewpoint, the context tells you which is which. > > Going the other way, speech to text, it's a whole different ballgame. Looking > at the example above, and assuming that everone spoke exactly the same way > (no problems with different dialects), the computer would still need to > understand the context of what was being dictated, so as to print "there", > "their", or "they're". of course when you bring different dialects into the > equation, it gets really complex. > > The differences I've found, are usually with the pronunciation of vowels, > which can very often, at first, make it difficult to understand what someone > is saying, but you sort of get tuned in after a while, but we are humaan, and > not a computer. > > In the UK there are some strong dialects, Geordie, Glaswegian (in scotland), > and many others. Looking at 2 examples from Wales, and Northern Ireland, the > word tongue in Wales is pronounced as tong, and the word film in Northern > Ireland is pronounced as filim, and the name of the actor who plays Chief > O'Brien in Star Trek, who's first name is Colm, is pronounced Colim. > > At this point in time, I personally see a problem in computers converting > speech to text. > > I recently listened to a broadcast on the BBC's world service "Digital > Planet", and Amtrak in the US seem to be using speech communication to a > computer to get info for train times, etc. > > I recently had a problem with a parcel not being delivered in France, and > contacting Chronopost by telephone, was asked to speak my parcel reference No > into the machine. On the premise that you ask, so I do, I spoke each letter, > and number into the phone. Nothing. Then I'm asked to repeat the parcel > reference, which I do, but still nothing. To be fair, I'm English, and > perhaps the computer has some problem with my pronunciation. Now I appreciate > that this was direct communication by speech with another machine, but I > believe that accurate speech to text is going to take quite some time to > achieve. > > Just some observations, and comments. > > Nigel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please excuse the lack of 's. I just couldn't decide where to to reply. A few years ago I watched a demo of speech recognition software. I don't remember which one. There was a very nice looking young lady with a headset mic on speaking to the audience and the computer behind her. In about 99.9% of the time the computer got every word perfectly. When it made a mistake she simply told the software t go back and corrected it. I was thoroughly impressed. On the flip side of this thing. She spent weeks training the software how she spoke, and learning how to work the software for the demo. For her it would work with virtually no hiccups. If someone else took the mic about all they would get is garbage. Every word had to be spoken in just a certain way by one persons voice. Plus it was a planned script that he was using. On the surface it looked fantastic. But when you started digging into the nuts and bolt it sort of fell apart. -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 4 18:02:38 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:02:38 -0300 Subject: Speech recognition References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <486E3D3A.3090108@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4587723.bK4dkVWVDB@cedar.serverforest.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Right. Just like OCR, however accurate it is, you'll spend a lot of time >> fixing the transcription errors. >> > The new programs are so accurate that they almost never err. Almost never? I'd consider a 98% accuracy rate to qualify as "almost never" - but that means you have to make a half dozen corrections on every page. That's a lot of work. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 4 18:06:28 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:06:28 -0300 Subject: Speech recognition References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <2731810.yqQBfXKYv6@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Henry wrote: > Looking at the example above, and assuming that everone spoke exactly the > same way (no problems with different dialects), the computer would still > need to understand the context of what was being dictated, so as to print > "there", "their", or "they're". of course when you bring different > dialects into the equation, it gets really complex. There are two ways to do speech recognition, though. The generic way is a long way from identifying dialects and accents, but the other method allows individual users to train the program. That should have little trouble with one person dictating a book, but often fails if you get a cold! In either case, homonyms are going to be difficult. -- derek From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Fri Jul 4 18:46:11 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:46:11 -0300 Subject: Strigi Message-ID: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Hi, people... Have anybody used strigi? About a week ago I Beagle started using 100% of my cpu. It seems some people have this problem but no one found a solution yet. So, I decided to change my indexed search engine. I use Google Desktop at work so I decided to reinstall strigi in my Kubuntu 8.04 box. I used to use beagle with kerry and I really love the interface, the search results are well categorized, you can apply some filters (not many but it's what I need). It lets KDE create the preview of the files in the search result window, and it has a realy nice kopete log viewer. Strigi, on the other hand... well... the complete search results are shown in a browser (I have to wait 'till it's open), the categories it uses are even worse than google's, it searches through every text file the same... I get kopete logs, normal text files, c, java, haskell, latex sources, and configuration files all mixed up. Even the web page is ugly. And I really miss the kopete log viewer... I really use the index search to remember what I've been told (my biological memory sucks). Maybe all that can be fixed or reconfigured... but I don't know how. I googled a bit about it but found nothing. Is there a strigi client in the style of kerry? Is there any kopete log viewer that I can associate with the log xml files to show them in a more human fashion? Is there any way to... well... organize the search results? so, at least it doesn't get everything so mixed up? I never really used strigi because I was comfortable with beagle... but I always thought of Kubuntu guys like the kind of people that is very careful choosing programs. I even like Dolphin for my day to day file administration tasks. I think it was an improvement... but strigi... well... It's really letting me down. From yuriy-kozlov at kubuntu.org Fri Jul 4 18:59:20 2008 From: yuriy-kozlov at kubuntu.org (Yuriy Kozlov) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:59:20 -0400 Subject: Hug Day - 08 July 2008 Message-ID: <714626160807041159u3fd8e5eck95a3c0dfcbb74034@mail.gmail.com> Kubuntu Intrepid will bring major changes with KDE 4.1, fixing a lot of bugs or making them irrelevant. We need help sorting out which bugs can now be closed, which still need to be fixed in Intrepid, and which bugs are really important and need to be fixed in Hardy/KDE3. So, the next hug day, on Tuesday, July 8th, will focus on transitioning old KDE3 bug reports to KDE4. The event will be held in #ubuntu-bugs on Freenode. The list of targeted bugs with instructions is posted at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080708 Our goal is to deal with all of the bugs on that list. So on 08 July 2008, in all timezones, we'll be meeting in #ubuntu-bugs on irc.freenode.net for another Kubuntu Hug Day. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay While you are welcome to apply to join the Ubuntu Bug Control team anytime, Hug Day is a great day to join! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugControl If you're interested in helping to make the next release of Kubuntu even better - please stop by. And feel free to ask bdmurray, pedro, yuriy, txwikinger and the rest of the team for ways to help out. We hope to see you there and your name on the list of bug triagers! Sincerely, ~ Yuriy From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Fri Jul 4 19:16:10 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:16:10 -0700 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200807041216.10213.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Friday 04 July 2008 10:23:46 am Nigel Henry wrote: > Going the other way, speech to text, it's a whole different ballgame. > Looking at the example above, and assuming that everone spoke exactly the > same way (no problems with different dialects), the computer would still > need to understand the context of what was being dictated, so as to print > "there", "their", or "they're". of course when you bring different dialects > into the equation, it gets really complex. Even so I'd bet it would win in guessing proper context over most of the people's writting I have seen on maillists!! A good friend of mine bought one of the programs that was supposed to write out what he said as he is a rather poor typist. In six months worth of work he became a MUCH better typist from correcting the mistakes of the program! Anyway, he now no longer uses the program. Besides, it would likely not work anymore with Vista. Not to worry though as his printer no longer works under Vista anyway! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Fri Jul 4 19:46:33 2008 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:46:33 +0200 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: Hi Pablo, On 04/07/2008, Pablo El Feo wrote: > Hi, people... Have anybody used strigi? >... > Strigi, on the other hand... well... the complete search results are shown in a > browser (I have to wait 'till it's open), the categories it uses are even worse > than google's, it searches through every text file the same... I get kopete > logs, normal text files, c, java, haskell, latex sources, and configuration > files all mixed up. Even the web page is ugly. And I really miss the kopete log > viewer... I really use the index search to remember what I've been told (my > biological memory sucks). Hm, just wondering, how did you use it? There is a package called strigi-client, did you install it? Also, there is a strigi-applet for the panel and a frontend called catfish. Strigi being a daemon running in the background, I don't really see how you can use it comfortably without a front end. In the future, Strigi should be usable with Nepomuk from Dolphin. Greets Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 19:51:19 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:51:19 -0400 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> Bas Roufs wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Dear everybody >>>> >>>> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >>>> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >>>> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >>>> >>>> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >>>> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >>>> technical specifications: >>>> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >>>> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >>>> (version 1000). >>>> More technical details: >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >>>> >>>> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >>>> >>>> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >>>> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >>>> >>>> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >>>> combination with Kubuntu? >>>> >>>> >>> This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a >>> minilaptop "real soon now": >>> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 >>> >>> and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could >>> be an interesting way to go. >>> >>> Sinclair >>> >>> >>> >> I have a eeePC 702 8gb 1gb and Fedora 9 installed on it , Fedora had all >> drivers for hardware, with the exception of >> the Atheos wierless chipset ,I downloaded >> madwifii-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz and compiled and it work great including >> WEP. The wireless chipset is a ar5007eg . livna.org has a madwifi driver >> also. >> The eeePC is much faster with the SSD, than the MSI or Everex that has >> a standard harddrive. Everex Cloud is dog slow. >> I would recommend the eeePC 901 or 1000 because of the 20gb SSD, that >> would give you plenty of space to install any Linux distro. >> I bought a ext. CD/DVD rom to install other OS and put in a 2gb memory >> for $41.00, speeded up noticeably . >> >> >> > How many writes can the 'hard disk' take, considering that it's flash memory? Linux does write a > lot to 'hard disk'. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > I don't know how many writes the SSD would take, but I wouldn't get hung up about the old fallacies about it burns out after 50 writes. I don't have a SWAP partition on mine so that cuts down on a lot of writes, and I have 2gb of memory so I don't have to be that concern about writing to SSD. I also have a Everex CloudBook 7" display and it has a hard drive and it is slow as molasses , That is if you know what molasses is. From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 20:46:29 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:46:29 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem Message-ID: Hi to everybody, I'm a new kubuntu user (and linux also) and i have already a problem :-( I had installed OpenSuse 11 before i decide to change on Kubuntu, and also i had a /home partition for my files... When i installed kubuntu i left every thing the same... The swap, the root and of course home...but now in the storage media i find my home ...and every time that i try to open it, i need my root password, plus i cant delete a file named lost + found (that opensuse created) - i don't have the permissions! So what can i do? I don't want to write my pass every time that i want to lessen to a song... :-) Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 20:51:47 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:51:47 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <486E8D63.50301@gmail.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Jim wrote: >> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Bas Roufs wrote: >>> >>>> Dear everybody >>>> >>>> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >>>> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >>>> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >>>> >>>> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >>>> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >>>> technical specifications: >>>> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >>>> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >>>> (version 1000). >>>> More technical details: >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >>>> >>>> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >>>> >>>> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >>>> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >>>> >>>> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >>>> combination with Kubuntu? >>>> >>> This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a >>> minilaptop "real soon now": >>> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 >>> >>> and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could >>> be an interesting way to go. >>> >>> Sinclair >>> >>> >> I have a eeePC 702 8gb 1gb and Fedora 9 installed on it , Fedora had all >> drivers for hardware, with the exception of >> the Atheos wierless chipset ,I downloaded >> madwifii-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz and compiled and it work great including >> WEP. The wireless chipset is a ar5007eg . livna.org has a madwifi driver >> also. >> The eeePC is much faster with the SSD, than the MSI or Everex that has >> a standard harddrive. Everex Cloud is dog slow. >> I would recommend the eeePC 901 or 1000 because of the 20gb SSD, that >> would give you plenty of space to install any Linux distro. >> I bought a ext. CD/DVD rom to install other OS and put in a 2gb memory >> for $41.00, speeded up noticeably . >> >> > How many writes can the 'hard disk' take, considering that it's flash memory? Linux does write a > lot to 'hard disk'. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > I've heard that journalled file systems in particular write a lot to one place on the disk, the journal, which fries up that area, so avoid journalled file systems if you can. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to write my pass every time that i want to > lessen to a song... :-) > > > Thanks > > change the permissions of the directories you are having trouble with. sudo chown your_user_name the_directory -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 21:12:14 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:12:14 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <486E8E11.3060600@gmail.com> References: <486E8E11.3060600@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks...it worked. :-) Perikli On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Perikli Thanasi wrote: > > Hi to everybody, > > I'm a new kubuntu user (and linux also) and i have already a problem :-( > > > > I had installed OpenSuse 11 before i decide to change on Kubuntu, and > also i > > had a /home partition for my files... > > When i installed kubuntu i left every thing the same... > > > > The swap, the root and of course home...but now in the storage media i > find > > my home ...and every time that i try to open it, i need my root password, > > plus i cant delete a file named lost + found (that opensuse created) - i > > don't have the permissions! > > > > So what can i do? I don't want to write my pass every time that i want to > > lessen to a song... :-) > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > change the permissions of the directories you are having trouble with. > sudo chown your_user_name the_directory > > -- > Willy K. Hamra > Manager of Hamra Information Systems > Co. 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Larry From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 22:12:26 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:12:26 +0200 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > > > There is no "System > Preferences > Sessions" in Kubuntu. > > What does it do and how can I do the same thing in Kubuntu? Hi...i think it's on kcontrol (alt+F2+ kcontrol)...system administration.. Perikli -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From labradley at mindspring.com Fri Jul 4 22:34:49 2008 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:34:49 -0500 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <486EA589.5090001@mindspring.com> Perikli Thanasi wrote: >> >> There is no "System > Preferences > Sessions" in Kubuntu. >> >> What does it do and how can I do the same thing in Kubuntu? > > > Hi...i think it's on kcontrol (alt+F2+ kcontrol)...system administration.. > > Perikli > > Thanks for the reply Perikli. There are 8 subdirectories under System Administration. The right one is probably System Services but it won't open for me as user and it won't take 'sudo kcontrol' on the command line. If I knew what "System > Preferences > Sessions" did in Ubuntu I could probably do some work-around from the command line. Larry From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 22:37:50 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:37:50 +0200 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <486EA589.5090001@mindspring.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <486EA589.5090001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Try the administrator mode...(down left) Perikli On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Perikli Thanasi wrote: > >> > >> There is no "System > Preferences > Sessions" in Kubuntu. > >> > >> What does it do and how can I do the same thing in Kubuntu? > > > > > > Hi...i think it's on kcontrol (alt+F2+ kcontrol)...system > administration.. > > > > Perikli > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Perikli. > > There are 8 subdirectories under System Administration. > > The right one is probably System Services but it won't open for me as > user and it won't take 'sudo kcontrol' on the command line. > > > If I knew what "System > Preferences > Sessions" did in Ubuntu I could > probably do some work-around from the command line. > > Larry > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hamra) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:41:23 +0300 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: <486E8E11.3060600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486EA713.6080105@gmail.com> Perikli Thanasi wrote: >> change the permissions of the directories you are having trouble with. >> sudo chown your_user_name the_directory > > > Hi...i did it...and in the begging it look ok...it was possible to delete > the file ( i mean lost+found) but after restart it was there...(this time > with all permissions)...Also i check on the permission -of the dik -(right > click) the auto mount but nothing happens...I mean i need to write the pass > again...my real problem is this...Cant i rich the disk without the pass > every time that i restart? > > Thanks > > lost+found is a special directory, the system automatically changes it's owner to the user "root", after creating it, but it's only this directory, are you having this problem with other directories? in that case it would be a problem, otherwise, it is perfectly normal for "lost+found" to be inaccessible. hope this clears it up for you :) -- Willy K. 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Evans said the following at 07/04/2008 10:58 AM : > Peter O'Reilly said the following at 07/03/2008 09:48 AM : >> Several services say 'not running', some are some aren't. >> >> all are supposed to start at bootup...is this a bug? >> > > I have filed bug #245596. > Response to bug #245596: ---- Thank you for taking time to file this bug and help us make Ubuntu better. Can you ask some of the other users you mentioned to confirm this bug? ---- Can some of the others here please confirm the problem at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/245596, so that they know it's not just me? Thanks. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 4 18:28:14 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:28:14 -0300 Subject: Services References: <520659.64824.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <486D3106.6060702@gmail.com> <200807031821.54698.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1251773.xbFMNEbCsP@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Coming from Mandriva, this makes no sense to me. But I've gradually come >> to accept that Kubuntu has some (unknown) rationale for the reason why it >> tells me that things aren't running when manifestly they are. To me, it's >> one of those "life is too short for me to try to figure out what was >> going on in the authors' minds when they wrote this part of the GUI" >> things. > > I'm not sure it is kubuntu's fault, other than using KDE to check on > system services. > > Most other distros (I came from SuSE) use their own system tools to > configure hardware and services. I wasn't even aware that KDE had a > services module. > > But I would lay the blame with the KDE services routine for any confusion. Actually, at first blush, I'd fix the blame on the services. As near as I can tell, anything that is setting a pid file in /var/run will show as running, anything that doesn't, won't. Not a KDE bug at all (and certainly not a serious one). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 4 18:25:29 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:25:29 -0300 Subject: Services References: <192442.13782.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1433986.FF2HW2KJcZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Peter O'Reilly wrote: > Yes they are enabled in "system settings --> advanced --> System > services ??" > > This services interface is completely broken and does not work at all. > This is a major bug. Pfui! What's "major" about a bug that consists of not actually telling you something is running when it is, and should be? It's a tiny little UI problem. And please stop top-posting... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Jul 5 01:20:19 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:20:19 -0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <1290662.0XTtNs8UQp@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > How many writes can the 'hard disk' take, considering that it's flash > memory? Linux does write a lot to 'hard disk'. Why? I think if you turn off atime, and you don't use swap (it seems pretty pointless on this sort of system), "Linux" shouldn't be writing any more than any other OS. That said, I used to work for a major bank (over a decade ago, now) and we were already switching to solid-state "disks". It's hard to imagine today's flash memory being less reliable than solid-state storage of pre-1995, and if it's good enough for a bank, it's good enough for me. -- derek From paulatgm at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 02:26:38 2008 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:26:38 -0400 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <486EDBDE.60103@gmail.com> Larry Alkoff said the following on 07/04/2008 05:47 PM: > There is an excellent tutorial at > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 by reassuringlyoffensive > showing how to fix a wandering touchpad on a Dell that uses Ubuntu. > > Unfortunately I use Kbuntu Hardy Heron. > > The tutorial has the instruction to > edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which I have done) > and then > navigate to System > Preferences > Sessions > and click on "Add". > Name it something like "Touchpad Syndaemon", the > description can be "Disables touchpad while typing", > and the all important command you need is "syndaemon -i 1 -d -t -K". > > There is no "System > Preferences > Sessions" in Kubuntu. > > What does it do and how can I do the same thing in Kubuntu? > > Larry > I'm not sure but think you can accomplish this by putting that command in a file in your ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory. For example, try creating a file name touchpad.sh nano ~/.kde/Autostart/touchpad.sh And put the lines in it: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/syndaemon -i 1 -d -t -K Then make it executable: chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/touchpad.sh Then logout and back in to have it start. hth From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Sat Jul 5 03:39:30 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:39:30 -0300 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> El Friday 04 July 2008 16:46:33 escribió: > Hi Pablo, > > On 04/07/2008, Pablo El Feo wrote: > > Hi, people... Have anybody used strigi? > >... > > Strigi, on the other hand... well... the complete search results are > > shown in a browser (I have to wait 'till it's open), the categories it > > uses are even worse than google's, it searches through every text file > > the same... I get kopete logs, normal text files, c, java, haskell, latex > > sources, and configuration files all mixed up. Even the web page is ugly. > > And I really miss the kopete log viewer... I really use the index search > > to remember what I've been told (my biological memory sucks). > > Hm, just wondering, how did you use it? There is a package called > strigi-client, did you install it? Also, there is a strigi-applet for > the panel and a frontend called catfish. Strigi being a daemon running > in the background, I don't really see how you can use it comfortably > without a front end. I use: Strigi-applet: Very useless since it only searches by name:hatever* (I really don't want to waste 2.0G in an index to search that) Catfish, I just installed it, but always says: Fatal error, search was aborted. Click here to start the search daemon. But it it started and running, other clients don't complain. The webpage search and strigiclient are both equally useless: strigi indexes EVERYTHING... but it really doesn't know what it is... if I search the name of a contact (Martin) it gives me 609 results, classified as: kde(13), mail(175), other (422). Let's be kind and suppose I was looking for a mail (the only meaningful class it seems to have)... the 175 results look pretty much the same: 1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S Martin Laberge ... /home/plb/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/kubuntu-users/cur/1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S - 3k - What am I supposed to do with that? I usually search mails by date, subject, attachments... I only know that it contains the word I'm searching, and it's 3k long. The rest... well... I don't want to understand that. If I was searching for a chat log, an application, information about a contact, a document... well I'll have to poll the hole "other" list of equally undescriptive items. Either I'm doing something VERY wrong... or this strigi is very useless. I'm really looking forward to try nepomuk, but if it's only going to bring even more files to the search results of this kind... well... I'll stop wasting disk space in indexes. > > In the future, Strigi should be usable with Nepomuk from Dolphin. > > Greets > > Myriam From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Jul 5 04:55:24 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:55:24 +0300 Subject: Fried spot was Re: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E8D63.50301@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E8D63.50301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486EFEBC.1020603@rmk.co.il> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Jim wrote: >>> O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> Bas Roufs wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear everybody >>>>> >>>>> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >>>>> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >>>>> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >>>>> >>>>> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >>>>> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >>>>> technical specifications: >>>>> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >>>>> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >>>>> (version 1000). >>>>> More technical details: >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >>>>> >>>>> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >>>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >>>>> >>>>> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >>>>> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >>>>> >>>>> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >>>>> combination with Kubuntu? >>>>> >>>> This is as yet not released but apparently Dell will release a >>>> minilaptop "real soon now": >>>> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9915094-1.html?tag=blog.1 >>>> >>>> and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could >>>> be an interesting way to go. >>>> >>>> Sinclair >>>> >>>> >>> I have a eeePC 702 8gb 1gb and Fedora 9 installed on it , Fedora had all >>> drivers for hardware, with the exception of >>> the Atheos wierless chipset ,I downloaded >>> madwifii-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz and compiled and it work great including >>> WEP. The wireless chipset is a ar5007eg . livna.org has a madwifi driver >>> also. >>> The eeePC is much faster with the SSD, than the MSI or Everex that has >>> a standard harddrive. Everex Cloud is dog slow. >>> I would recommend the eeePC 901 or 1000 because of the 20gb SSD, that >>> would give you plenty of space to install any Linux distro. >>> I bought a ext. CD/DVD rom to install other OS and put in a 2gb memory >>> for $41.00, speeded up noticeably . >>> >>> >> How many writes can the 'hard disk' take, considering that it's flash memory? Linux does write a >> lot to 'hard disk'. >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> > I've heard that journalled file systems in particular write a lot to one > place on the disk, the journal, which fries up that area, so avoid > journalled file systems if you can. > > Strange you should say that..... I have 5 young children (8 - 15) and [had] oldish computers for them. After a few years of use I noticed that one in particular would start to make problems and even on a reboot would need to be coaxed into booting properly (sometimes needing a 'rescue mode' to start with). Anyway, I then noticed that the others started dying and did the 'change_hard_drive' routine from a collection that I had from previous [Linux] computers. I have always use Reiserfs (a journaling file system) and trying to install Hardy Heron was impossible - it would always get to about the same point in the install (installing packages) and cause a nice 'red' screen and that was that. I even tried installing other distros but all with the same result. I tried several of the hard disks that I had lying around, but all showed the same problem. In the end, just so that my daughter could get some work done, I installed Puppy Linux (really small footprint - and it didn't reach the 'burnt_out' area of the hard drive). So, getting back to your statement about journaling file systems frying a specific area (because of the many writes) I am sure that you are correct. What is the answer? Journaling file systems are great in what they do, in that they recover your data in case of a crash or sudden power outage, but frying the hard drive is a serious problem. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From rick0009 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 05:24:22 2008 From: rick0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:24:22 -0400 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <486F0586.8080209@gmail.com> Pablo El Feo wrote: > El Friday 04 July 2008 16:46:33 escribió: > >> Hi Pablo, >> >> On 04/07/2008, Pablo El Feo wrote: >> >>> Hi, people... Have anybody used strigi? >>> ... >>> Strigi, on the other hand... well... the complete search results are >>> shown in a browser (I have to wait 'till it's open), the categories it >>> uses are even worse than google's, it searches through every text file >>> the same... I get kopete logs, normal text files, c, java, haskell, latex >>> sources, and configuration files all mixed up. Even the web page is ugly. >>> And I really miss the kopete log viewer... I really use the index search >>> to remember what I've been told (my biological memory sucks). >>> >> Hm, just wondering, how did you use it? There is a package called >> strigi-client, did you install it? Also, there is a strigi-applet for >> the panel and a frontend called catfish. Strigi being a daemon running >> in the background, I don't really see how you can use it comfortably >> without a front end. >> > > I use: > Strigi-applet: Very useless since it only searches by name:hatever* (I really > don't want to waste 2.0G in an index to search that) > Catfish, I just installed it, but always says: Fatal error, search was aborted. > Click here to start the search daemon. > But it it started and running, other clients don't complain. > > The webpage search and strigiclient are both equally useless: strigi indexes > EVERYTHING... but it really doesn't know what it is... if I search the name of > a contact (Martin) it gives me 609 results, classified as: kde(13), mail(175), > other (422). > Let's be kind and suppose I was looking for a mail (the only meaningful class it > seems to have)... the 175 results look pretty much the same: > > 1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S > Martin Laberge ... > /home/plb/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/kubuntu-users/cur/1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S - > 3k - > > What am I supposed to do with that? I usually search mails by date, subject, > attachments... I only know that it contains the word I'm searching, and it's 3k > long. The rest... well... I don't want to understand that. > > If I was searching for a chat log, an application, information about a contact, > a document... well I'll have to poll the hole "other" list of equally > undescriptive items. > > Either I'm doing something VERY wrong... or this strigi is very useless. > I'm really looking forward to try nepomuk, but if it's only going to bring even > more files to the search results of this kind... well... I'll stop wasting disk > space in indexes. > > >> In the future, Strigi should be usable with Nepomuk from Dolphin. >> >> Greets >> >> Myriam >> > > > > > Try searchmonkey, I believe that the correct title, search google... this might be a temp way to go, a single application. Rich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Alexander Smirnov < alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com> wrote: > Dana J. Laude пишет: > > Well, I'm using a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 on the desktop, and a GeForce > > 8600M GS on my laptop and all is well. Both have 256MB of ram and they > > work fine for me. Compiz works fine on both computers, although the > > desktop is a tad slow. (only has 512MB of ram on a AMD 1.6Ghz cpu) > > > > Both systems are using the proprietary drivers provided from Kubuntu. > > (nvidia vs nv) > > > > Dana > > > Nvidia 8x and 9x series have very bad proprietary drivers for linux. > Even 2D performance is very pure. See related forum for details: > > http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=d374877913395c937d2d4bfa9bf6bde5&f=14 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunkumori at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 05:35:18 2008 From: hunkumori at gmail.com (Asuka Langley) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:35:18 +0200 Subject: How to clean out ~/home In-Reply-To: <20080703154403.64FA212880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <200807020607.09067.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <486CEF7B.4010701@verizon.net> <20080703154403.64FA212880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <347f0cf50807042235y41aa4a05v19dde9edab8c142b@mail.gmail.com> Hi I would just delete the whole home, after saving my personal data, and some REALLY necessary configs. Like rtorrent.rc, conky.rc, and so on, what I know I will need them. Thats the easiest, cleanest way to do something like this. KDE makes the necessary files at the first login, so it will be fixed (your problem), if its kde related, or anything what is related to your ~/home Asuka 2008/7/3 David Fletcher : > At 16:25 03/07/2008, you wrote: > > >I wouldn't destroy all of them (rm .*) Try to find the areas you have > >problems with first (Like the .kde and .kde4 directory) and just delete > >those. They will be recreated the next time kde starts up. > > I'm sitting in front of an XP machine at work |-O right now so I > can't check for sure, but aren't things like the kdewallet stored > under ~/.kde? What I'm saying is, be careful what you delete. Might > be better to hide it from the system by renaming it, then it can > easily be restored. > > Dave > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunkumori at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 05:38:27 2008 From: hunkumori at gmail.com (Asuka Langley) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:38:27 +0200 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> I don't get it. I have a 8600GTS ATM, and I tested a 9600GT. Every Nvidia card worked fine with the "stable" driver, what is 173.14.09 right now.. if its not updated to a newer yet. I don't think there is any problem with these cards on linux. Nvidia had the best proprietary drivers always, and the opensource Ati stuff is still very beta, and only knows 3d on older cards, and that 3d is much slower than the proprietary one. So I would stick with Nvidia. (well maybe 9800GTX in SLi won't work fine, I mean, maybe you will see it flickering while playing a movie, or smth like that, but I never had so much money to afford a system like that (who can pay that much electricity bill :P)) 2008/7/3 Alexander Smirnov : > Dana J. Laude пишет: > > Well, I'm using a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 on the desktop, and a GeForce > > 8600M GS on my laptop and all is well. Both have 256MB of ram and they > > work fine for me. Compiz works fine on both computers, although the > > desktop is a tad slow. (only has 512MB of ram on a AMD 1.6Ghz cpu) > > > > Both systems are using the proprietary drivers provided from Kubuntu. > > (nvidia vs nv) > > > > Dana > > > Nvidia 8x and 9x series have very bad proprietary drivers for linux. > Even 2D performance is very pure. See related forum for details: > > http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=d374877913395c937d2d4bfa9bf6bde5&f=14 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 07:05:42 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:05:42 +0200 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <486F1D46.3090000@gmail.com> Pablo El Feo wrote: > El Friday 04 July 2008 16:46:33 escribió: >> Hi Pablo, >> >> On 04/07/2008, Pablo El Feo wrote: >>> Hi, people... Have anybody used strigi? >>> ... >>> Strigi, on the other hand... well... the complete search results are >>> shown in a browser (I have to wait 'till it's open), the categories it >>> uses are even worse than google's, it searches through every text file >>> the same... I get kopete logs, normal text files, c, java, haskell, latex >>> sources, and configuration files all mixed up. Even the web page is ugly. >>> And I really miss the kopete log viewer... I really use the index search >>> to remember what I've been told (my biological memory sucks). >> Hm, just wondering, how did you use it? There is a package called >> strigi-client, did you install it? Also, there is a strigi-applet for >> the panel and a frontend called catfish. Strigi being a daemon running >> in the background, I don't really see how you can use it comfortably >> without a front end. > > I use: > Strigi-applet: Very useless since it only searches by name:hatever* (I really > don't want to waste 2.0G in an index to search that) > Catfish, I just installed it, but always says: Fatal error, search was aborted. > Click here to start the search daemon. > But it it started and running, other clients don't complain. > > The webpage search and strigiclient are both equally useless: strigi indexes > EVERYTHING... but it really doesn't know what it is... if I search the name of > a contact (Martin) it gives me 609 results, classified as: kde(13), mail(175), > other (422). > Let's be kind and suppose I was looking for a mail (the only meaningful class it > seems to have)... the 175 results look pretty much the same: > > 1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S > Martin Laberge ... > /home/plb/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/kubuntu-users/cur/1214787490.5937.O52qU:2,S - > 3k - > > What am I supposed to do with that? I usually search mails by date, subject, > attachments... I only know that it contains the word I'm searching, and it's 3k > long. The rest... well... I don't want to understand that. > > If I was searching for a chat log, an application, information about a contact, > a document... well I'll have to poll the hole "other" list of equally > undescriptive items. > > Either I'm doing something VERY wrong... or this strigi is very useless. > I'm really looking forward to try nepomuk, but if it's only going to bring even > more files to the search results of this kind... well... I'll stop wasting disk > space in indexes. > >> In the future, Strigi should be usable with Nepomuk from Dolphin. >> I can only agree that Strigi does not seem to find anything useful. I have tried it several times and it finds x number of html files (or whatever) but never any docs, mail, pics or whatever I might actually be looking for. Also seems to be no development going on and the know errors (it just hangs itself sometimes and you have to delete the whole index to get it working again) stays on for every Kubuntu release. Have not yet tried Kerry/Beagle or Google Desktop but am about to. Strigi STINKS! Sinclair From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Sat Jul 5 09:07:02 2008 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:07:02 +0200 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: <486F1D46.3090000@gmail.com> References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <200807050039.31684.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <486F1D46.3090000@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sinclair, On 05/07/2008, O. Sinclair wrote: > > I can only agree that Strigi does not seem to find anything useful. I > have tried it several times and it finds x number of html files (or > whatever) but never any docs, mail, pics or whatever I might actually be > looking for. Also seems to be no development going on and the know > errors (it just hangs itself sometimes and you have to delete the whole > index to get it working again) stays on for every Kubuntu release. Have > not yet tried Kerry/Beagle or Google Desktop but am about to. > > Strigi STINKS! Besides that shouting, did you file a bug for it? I agree it's not usable for the moment, but the website states it's still in unstable mode (as is the whole 4.1b2), so let's at least do something helpful! Greets Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Sat Jul 5 09:14:21 2008 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:14:21 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Perikli, On 04/07/2008, Perikli Thanasi wrote: > > I had installed OpenSuse 11 before i decide to change on Kubuntu, and also i > had a /home partition for my files... > When i installed kubuntu i left every thing the same... IIRC the numbering for the users is not the same in different distributions. Ubuntu (and all other Debian-likes) do start the user numbering at 1000, and I remember my old Madrake (now Mandriva) started it at 500, so I didn't have permissions to use my old /home. I worked around it creating a new user, then moved over all my /home to the new user. Maybe this is your problem, some SuSE user could probably tell if the numbering is different. Greets Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 10:00:43 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:00:43 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <200807041216.10213.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807041216.10213.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <880dece00807050300g60f66825q5bfdbe52d99d324a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 Pastor JW : > Even so I'd bet it would win in guessing proper context over most of the > people's writting I have seen on maillists!! A good friend of mine bought > one of the programs that was supposed to write out what he said as he is a > rather poor typist. In six months worth of work he became a MUCH better > typist from correcting the mistakes of the program! Anyway, he now no longer > uses the program. Besides, it would likely not work anymore with Vista. Not > to worry though as his printer no longer works under Vista anyway! > You should point his this new operating system that works with many Windows XP programs no longer supported under Vista, and most hardware too: http://kubuntu.com Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 10:03:34 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:03:34 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <2731810.yqQBfXKYv6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <2731810.yqQBfXKYv6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807050303i53d58534qe6dd787a5aede0b8@mail.gmail.com> > There are two ways to do speech recognition, though. The generic way is a > long way from identifying dialects and accents, but the other method allows > individual users to train the program. That should have little trouble > with one person dictating a book, but often fails if you get a cold! In > either case, homonyms are going to be difficult. > The Dragon Naturally Speaking reviews call it 99.8% accurate for most people out of the box, and it learns. You really should see the video on their site. Apparently, it finds the context of a word by analyzing a few words to the left and to the right, so it can properly type "the bear's bare butt". If it works in Ubuntu, I'd pay $100 for it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 11:26:27 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:26:27 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > I worked around it creating a new user, then moved over all my /home > to the new user. Maybe this is your problem, some SuSE user could > probably tell if the numbering is different. Yes i think this is the problem... For now i will let it the same situation...We will see in the future :-) > Myriam > Thanks Perikli -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 11:31:48 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:31:48 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <486EA713.6080105@gmail.com> References: <486E8E11.3060600@gmail.com> <486EA713.6080105@gmail.com> Message-ID: > > > > lost+found is a special directory, the system automatically changes it's > owner to the user "root", after creating it, but it's only this > directory, are you having this problem with other directories? No only this... > in that > case it would be a problem, otherwise, it is perfectly normal for > "lost+found" to be inaccessible. Yes but i have 2 lost and found folders... 1. On root media storage 2. and the second one on Home (which is in an other partition) > > hope this clears it up for you :) I think that i understood the use...but til can i make that my Home partitition can be used by my programs (example amarok) without the necessity to enter the password every time? Thanks Perikli -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 12:00:37 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:00:37 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 Jim : > I don't > have a SWAP partition on mine so that cuts down on a lot of writes, and > I have 2gb of memory so I > don't have to be that concern about writing to SSD. Without a swap partition, can the device suspend to RAM? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 12:02:41 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:02:41 +0300 Subject: OT: Linux acceptance (was: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu) Message-ID: <880dece00807050502t8ad9f4dkdd592cc50a8da629@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/4 O. Sinclair : > and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could > be an interesting way to go. > Had I heard that statement just two years ago, I would have laughed right off the chair. Look at had far we've come (Dell, ATI, etc.). Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Sat Jul 5 12:07:01 2008 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:07:01 +0100 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807051307.01387.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> All distributions assign a number to each user - if you look under User Management in the System Settings application, the UID column shows this number. It can be a problem though, that different distributions have a different starting number. Kubuntu starts at 1000, but I think Fedora starts at 500. Suse might also start at 500. This number, not your name, is what identifies your files as belonging to you, so even if you unpack your own files into your own new home directory, the system will think that they don't belong to you unless you correctly set the User ID. One of my friends, who is a BSD enthusiast, and uses many different computers, has his own solution to this problem. He always sets his User ID number to a high value that is unlikely to occur on systems with anything up to a few hundred users, and always uses the same number, something like 2345. That way he can use his own files on any system without having to mess about setting the User ID on them. Dave -- FACT - Millions of people worldwide continue to pay money to one of the richest companies in the world for its products, even though perfectly good software is given away completely free of charge by the open source community! I can't understand it either. Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 5 12:10:55 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:10:55 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <880dece00807050303i53d58534qe6dd787a5aede0b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <2731810.yqQBfXKYv6@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050303i53d58534qe6dd787a5aede0b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486F64CF.80402@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> There are two ways to do speech recognition, though. The generic way is a >> long way from identifying dialects and accents, but the other method allows >> individual users to train the program. That should have little trouble >> with one person dictating a book, but often fails if you get a cold! In >> either case, homonyms are going to be difficult. >> >> > > The Dragon Naturally Speaking reviews call it 99.8% accurate for most > people out of the box, and it learns. You really should see the video > on their site. Apparently, it finds the context of a word by analyzing > a few words to the left and to the right, so it can properly type "the > bear's bare butt". If it works in Ubuntu, I'd pay $100 for it. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > Years ago, I used Naturally Speaking. I would read as I wrote. When I saw a mistake, I would immediately say 'correct that', it gave choices with a number before them. I would then say 'take 3' if the third choice was correct. It always worked well and rarely slowed the dictation much. It sure was a lot faster and more accurate than typing. I misspell words more than the program did. When I changed to Linux, it was one of the programs that I missed the most, but not enought to keep XP on my machine. In any event, I have heard that the newest versions have corrected most of the errors that I experienced before and have ironed out most of the problems I read that you all talk about. Recently, I heard that Wine, the Windows emulator, works well with Dragon Naturally Speaking, I have considered purchasing the current version. I would still like to hear from someone using Naturally Speaking on Wine before I spend the $100 to purchase. I hope this information is useful. Steven Vollom From ed.lau at mail.ee Sat Jul 5 12:26:24 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:26:24 +0300 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486F6870.7070900@mail.ee> > the opensource Ati stuff is still very beta I installed at 22th June 2008 ATI drivers from its web page and got it working! Current tutorial is about uninstalling Ubuntu ATI drivers and install ATI-AMD driver from its webpage. Some links ********** tutorial: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide main driver page: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html exact URL for driver download https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run Used distro: Estobuntu 8.01 stable (based on Kubuntu 7.10) - http://estobuntu.org/estobuntu-english I apologize - some messages are in Estonian language due to localized Ubuntu distro. 1) Build package ***************** $ sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy Created directory fglrx-install.pU6710 Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.501....... ================================================== ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager ================================================== Generating package: Ubuntu/gutsy Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has been successfully generated Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has been successfully generated Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has been successfully generated Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has been successfully generated Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.pU6710 2) Modify file *************** $ sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx" Save file with F3 and exit with F2 from nano. If you have the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted then uncomment there "fglrx" to get ATI proprietary drivers to work 3) Install prepared packages **************************** $ sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx*.deb fglrx-kernel-source*.deb fglrx-amdcccle*.deb Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx valimine. (Andmebaasi lugemine ... hetkel on paigaldatud 102569 faili ja kataloogi.) Paki xorg-driver-fglrx lahtipakkimine (failist xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev valimine. Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev lahtipakkimine (failist xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... Varem valimata paki fglrx-kernel-source valimine. Paki fglrx-kernel-source lahtipakkimine (failist fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... Varem valimata paki fglrx-amdcccle valimine. Paki fglrx-amdcccle lahtipakkimine (failist fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... Paki xorg-driver-fglrx (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... * Starting atieventsd [ OK ] Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... Paki fglrx-kernel-source (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... Adding Module to DKMS build system Doing initial module build Installing initial module Warning! Cannot do version sanity checking because multiple fglrx.ko modules were found in kernel 2.6.22-15-generic. Done. Paki fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... If there remains dependencies, fix them: sudo apt-get install -f Then correct the system: sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean 4) Modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf **************************** Section "Device" ... Option "VideoOverlay" "on" Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" Driver "fglrx" ... EndSection ...... Section "device" # ... Driver "fglrx" Option "VideoOverlay" "on" Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" ... EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "off" EndSection Now restart the system! 5) Check ******** $ fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release $ glxgears 8059 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1611,728 FPS 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,617 FPS 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,650 FPS 8048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,492 FPS So, it works like a charm! 6) Some pictures about new ATI Catalyst Center: http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/ati_catalyst_control_center 7) Compiled driver packages are available here: http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/valmistatud_pakid_22-06-2008 8) Another error - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/211318 - this is also in Kubuntu 7.10 To fix it, open /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh and instead of: XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A$1* write: XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/run/xauth/A$1* Best Regards, Edmund From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 12:29:59 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:29:59 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486F64CF.80402@sbcglobal.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <880dece00807030547l71724530q3bc3b40352b54e9c@mail.gmail.com> <1716045.5l809Gl8Ui@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807041923.46753.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <2731810.yqQBfXKYv6@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050303i53d58534qe6dd787a5aede0b8@mail.gmail.com> <486F64CF.80402@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00807050529q4c11c720ycf11666f5c35cb3c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/5 Steven Vollom : > Years ago, I used Naturally Speaking. I would read as I wrote. When I > saw a mistake, I would immediately say 'correct that', it gave choices > with a number before them. I would then say 'take 3' if the third > choice was correct. It always worked well and rarely slowed the > dictation much. It sure was a lot faster and more accurate than > typing. I misspell words more than the program did. When I changed to > Linux, it was one of the programs that I missed the most, but not > enought to keep XP on my machine. In any event, I have heard that the > newest versions have corrected most of the errors that I experienced > before and have ironed out most of the problems I read that you all talk > about. Recently, I heard that Wine, the Windows emulator, works well > with Dragon Naturally Speaking, I have considered purchasing the current > version. I would still like to hear from someone using Naturally > Speaking on Wine before I spend the $100 to purchase. I hope this > information is useful. > Write to Nuance and ask them about DNS on Linux. If we don't ask, then they will never produce it. Make sure to mention that you are an existing customer. Let us know what their response is. Thanks! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Jul 5 12:50:08 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:50:08 -0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/4 Jim : >> I don't >> have a SWAP partition on mine so that cuts down on a lot of writes, and >> I have 2gb of memory so I >> don't have to be that concern about writing to SSD. > > Without a swap partition, can the device suspend to RAM? No. Is it necessary? I've never seen much value for something between Sleep and Hibernate. It can't suspend to Disk, either, without a swap partition but if you need to be able hibernate, you can always create a swap partition that is _not_ normally used for swap. I'm still perplexed about Nigel's implication that Linux causes more writes to disk than other OSes. It just doesn't seem logical. -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 5 13:02:21 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:02:21 -0400 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <486F70DD.2020000@sbcglobal.net> David Fletcher wrote: > At 02:58 04/07/2008, you wrote: > >> I read another response in this forum and it was suggested that Dragon >> Naturally Speaking 9 works good in Wine, the Windows emulator. I >> haven't as yet tried it, but I am going to. I used to use Naturally >> Speaking for all my word processing. It works super. The programs that >> I use using Wine work the same as they do on Microsoft OS's. >> >> Steven >> > > I'll certainly be interested in seeing a result on this, but I'll > reiterate that its intended use is for writing a book. I'm told that > book publishers generally don't thank authors for submitting work as > word processor files of any sort, but are very happy indeed to > receive LaTeX files. > > Having had a play with LaTeX over the last couple of weeks and found > out how to duplicate my standard letter writing layout with it, I've > found that the best editor so far is kate - it knows the LaTeX syntax > so it can run the spelling checker properly i.e. it makes no attempt > to spell check the formatting instructions. > > So, if it's possible to run Dragon under Wine, with the dictated text > going into kate, that could be the way to go. > > Dave > > > Dear Dave, I am curious. Are the publishers dissatisfied because the dictated work is sent in saved data form? I mean, if they were to read the book printed on paper, how would they know if the document was dictated from a word processor. The primary reason I used Naturally Speaking was to keep from making errors, not save paper. I believe you can format or even use a publishing format and still use Naturally Speaking. It has been so long since I have used Microsoft (also I am getting older and the memory is getting soft) that I can't remember the publishing program that I used for Microsoft processors, but it worked with the same quality using Naturally Speaking as when I was just dictating an email. You had the ability to include photographs. You could have the page numbers automatically entered and type on both sides of a sheet. It appeared to produce publishable work from a saved file. I am probably over my head in this conversation, because I am not an author, but I used the program for similar private purposes and had success. I am not trying to sell Naturally Speaking either, it is just my experience with an older version was much better than the comments I have been reading in the forum. Including error corrections, I believe I worked at over 100 words per minute. That is a lot faster than I can type (and I don't type error free). Steven From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Jul 5 13:07:00 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:07:00 -0300 Subject: Fried spot was Re: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E8D63.50301@gmail.com> <486EFEBC.1020603@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <1351026.568ljcqDWU@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > So, getting back to your statement about journaling file systems frying a > specific area (because of the many writes) I am sure that you are correct. > > What is the answer? Journaling file systems are great in what they do, in > that they recover your data in case of a crash or sudden power outage, but > frying the hard drive is a serious problem. It takes more than "one specific area" to be fried on a modern drive (by which, I think I mean anything manufactured since about 1990). The drives automatically remap bad sectors so that the computer (and filesystem) doesn't even know that a sector was bad. If you start seeing disk errors, it means your drive has already run out of automatically remappable sectors, so it's been bad for a long time already. That said, _some_ filesystems allow you to specify your own journal file (ext3, certainly, has iirc an "external journal" which has to be on another filesystem). Which means you could create a journal on some currently good part of the filesystem. It also means you could schedule rotation of journals to keep total activity down. But again, I wonder how necessary a journalling fs is on an Eee or similar? What does the Eee come preconfigured with? How often does it crash? I got in the habit of using a journalling FS years ago, but thinking back, I don't think I've actually had a situation where I recovered from a journal more than twice in the past two years. Both of those situations came about because of abrupt failures when my laptop battery went dead. Proper configuration has solved _that_ issue (though now I get abruptly hibernated, instead). -- derek From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 13:22:42 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:22:42 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <200807051307.01387.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200807051307.01387.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: > > All distributions assign a number to each user - if you look under User > Management in the System Settings application, the UID column shows this > number. It can be a problem though, that different distributions have a > different starting number. Kubuntu starts at 1000, but I think Fedora > starts > at 500. Suse might also start at 500. This number, not your name, is what > identifies your files as belonging to you, so even if you unpack your own > files into your own new home directory, the system will think that they > don't > belong to you unless you correctly set the User ID. Thanks..now i understand why i have this problem..is there any way to change something to resolve it? Maybe change my UID number...but how and which one? Thanks Perikli -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And, I always thought of Kubuntu as a distro that take very serious the user experience... and I thought that if they have strigi in their standard distribution it should be something useful, and easy to use and setup. I also don't know I I'm doing something wrong... most programs are very configurable, at least more than they seem. So I was hoping there was something I could do to improve my search results. The bug report... well... I've seen very strange bug reports (like a wine bug that states that people still prefere to use the original Windows API)... Can general frustration and disappointment be reported as a bug? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 14:18:01 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:18:01 +0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <486F70DD.2020000@sbcglobal.net> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <1215048682.5955.6.camel@midnight> <486C475A.4020001@swbell.net> <200807032315.24519.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486D83C8.5020405@sbcglobal.net> <20080704081536.4022812880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> <486F70DD.2020000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00807050718i3a79dd42ic351be5e001552fd@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/5 Steven Vollom : > I am curious. Are the publishers dissatisfied because the dictated work > is sent in saved data form? I mean, if they were to read the book > printed on paper, how would they know if the document was dictated from > a word processor. > > The primary reason I used Naturally Speaking was to keep from making > errors, not save paper. I believe you can format or even use a > publishing format and still use Naturally Speaking. > > It has been so long since I have used Microsoft (also I am getting older > and the memory is getting soft) that I can't remember the publishing > program that I used for Microsoft processors, but it worked with the > same quality using Naturally Speaking as when I was just dictating an > email. You had the ability to include photographs. You could have the > page numbers automatically entered and type on both sides of a sheet. > It appeared to produce publishable work from a saved file. > > I am probably over my head in this conversation, because I am not an > author, but I used the program for similar private purposes and had > success. I am not trying to sell Naturally Speaking either, it is just > my experience with an older version was much better than the comments I > have been reading in the forum. Including error corrections, I believe > I worked at over 100 words per minute. That is a lot faster than I can > type (and I don't type error free). > > Steven > The video on the Nuance website states that DNS works with any Windows-based program. They show usage of the program only with MS products, though, such as Word, IE, and OE. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kassube at gmx.net Sat Jul 5 14:54:40 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:54:40 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: <486EA713.6080105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807051654.40242.kassube@gmx.net> Perikli Thanasi wrote: > > in that > > case it would be a problem, otherwise, it is perfectly normal for > > "lost+found" to be inaccessible. > > Yes but i have 2 lost and found folders... > 1. On root media storage > 2. and the second one on Home (which is in an other partition) There is one lost+found directory on every ext2/ext3 partition. Whenever during a disk check an orphaned inode is found, it will be moved to the lost+found directory of that particular partition. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat Jul 5 14:57:00 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:57:00 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: <200807051307.01387.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200807051657.00975.kassube@gmx.net> Perikli Thanasi wrote: > Thanks..now i understand why i have this problem..is there any way to > change something to resolve it? Maybe change my UID number...but how > and which one? Unless you want to use the home directory for other distributions as well, it would be better to change the ownership of the directory. That could be done with the command sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME in a terminal. Nils From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 15:03:17 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:03:17 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/5 Derek Broughton : > No. Is it necessary? If the machine takes more than 5 seconds to boot up, then yes. > I've never seen much value for something between Sleep > and Hibernate. Near-instant on. Not very important for a desktop, critical for a laptop. > It can't suspend to Disk, either, without a swap partition > but if you need to be able hibernate, you can always create a swap > partition that is _not_ normally used for swap. Good point. > I'm still perplexed about Nigel's implication that Linux causes more writes > to disk than other OSes. It just doesn't seem logical. He said that Linux writes 'a lot'. He didn't compare Linux to other OSes. I breathe 'a lot'. But I probably don't breathe any more than the average KDE user. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 15:25:55 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:25:55 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <200807051657.00975.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807051307.01387.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200807051657.00975.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > Unless you want to use the home directory for other distributions as well, > it would be better to change the ownership of the directory. That could > be done with the command > > sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME Where user is my username and home is the "new" home directory..example: sudo chown -R $perikli: $/media/disk/perikli ? This will change my home from: /home/ to /media/disk/perikli ? Thanks for the answer...How you can see i don't know many things about linux Perikli -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That would be this command: echo "sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME" Nils From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 5 15:47:40 2008 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:47:40 -0700 Subject: How to get the popup box back. In-Reply-To: <486E2CDE.1020307@gmail.com> References: <486E2A4C.7020600@sbcglobal.net> <486E2CDE.1020307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <486F979C.8040302@sbcglobal.net> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > jerry wrote: > >> When I download a file I used to get a popup box that asked "What do you >> want to do with this file? Save open. >> >> I checked the box at the bottom of the popup so that it would alway >> select open file. Now I would like to get the popup box back to be able >> to select another option on those occasions. >> >> I cannot find where to reactivate the popup selection box when I >> download a file. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Jerry >> >> >> >> >> > > Hi Jerry, i understand that you are using firefox, right? if this is the > case, go to "edit-->preferences", in the "Main" tab see the downloads > section, and choose the option that suits you, you probably want to > choose to always ask you where to save the file. > if it is not firefox you are using, send us the name of your browser :) > hope this works for you > > Yes I am using Firefox 2. I will give it a try. Thanks jerry From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 16:24:56 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:24:56 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <200807051736.34072.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807051657.00975.kassube@gmx.net> <200807051736.34072.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: I did it... but i didn't notice any changes..?!? Thanks Perikli ps. It is possible to make these patitition my home ..now? I mean change it like you could do it on windows...? I want that /media/disk/perikli is my new home...but how i do it, if i can? and if i do i...will contiun asking for the password when i open the file? On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Perikli Thanasi wrote: > > > Unless you want to use the home directory for other distributions as > > > well, it would be better to change the ownership of the directory. > > > That could be done with the command > > > > > > sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME > > > > Where user is my username > > and home is the "new" home directory..example: > > > > sudo chown -R $perikli: $/media/disk/perikli > > > > ? > > > > No need to replace anything. The shell sets the environment variable $USER > to your login and $HOME to your home directory. So you can use the > command like I wrote it and the shell will do the necessary replacement > for you. Just put the same command as a parameter to an echo command and > you can check how the replacement would work. That would be this command: > > echo "sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME" > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Jul 5 15:43:34 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:43:34 -0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/5 Derek Broughton : >> No. Is it necessary? > > If the machine takes more than 5 seconds to boot up, then yes. > >> I've never seen much value for something between Sleep >> and Hibernate. > > Near-instant on. Not very important for a desktop, critical for a laptop. Hardly "critical". I don't use it. Obviously, mileage may vary :-) > >> I'm still perplexed about Nigel's implication that Linux causes more >> writes >> to disk than other OSes. It just doesn't seem logical. > > He said that Linux writes 'a lot'. He didn't compare Linux to other > OSes. I breathe 'a lot'. But I probably don't breathe any more than > the average KDE user. LOL. That's why I said "implication". Everything writes "a lot", but to single out Linux implies it does so more than other options. I'm fairly sure there's nothing special about Linux - except that "atime" is the default for many distros - but there may be specific filesystems that will write more, or less. Obviously as noted in another branch of this thread, journalling is an issue. -- derek From jdz99 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 17:19:21 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:19:21 +0000 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> Message-ID: when I installed Kubuntu it asked me for a user name and I chose 'sa'. It did not ask for a 'root' password anywhere. Is there a 'root' account setup or should I set one up? Thanks, Jim > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:00:37 +0200 > From: fred.schaer at free.fr > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: firewall > > firewall builder is trying to setup the firewall using *root* account : > it connects via ssh to 127.0.0.1 for you, so you'll probably want to > check that root account has a password (and enter this one when asked), > and that root is allowed to connect via ssh on 127.0.0.1. I don't think > fwbuiled is able to use sudo (and that's a pity) when installing the > firewall, so don't try with your standard user account (I guess this is > the cause of the permission denied error) > > Personnally, to secure a bit the ssh thing, I have this line in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config : > > PermitRootLogin yes > AllowUsers me root at localhost > > Hope that helps... > Cheers > > Jim Douglas a écrit : > > I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting > > this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc > > SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > I tried this, > > > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4586134 > > > > ...but now I get this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc > > *** Fatal error : > > --**--**-- Done bash: /etc/emma.fw: Permission denied > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > > > ....any suggestions? > > > > Perhaps someone could suggest a similar, easy to use firewall?? 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I know that when a hard drive begins to fail, the built-in hard drive software marks bad spots and doesn't use them, and that when the user notices a 'bad spot', then all available 'software' options have been used up. My question is, why is it that my collection of used Linux hard drives all have dead spots in roughly the same place? Is it because of the journaling file system writing to the same place all the time or is a coincidence? If the former, what is a recommended file system to use - other than a journaling one? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Sat Jul 5 17:59:12 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:12 -0700 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> Message-ID: <200807051059.12989.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Saturday 05 July 2008 10:19:21 am Jim Douglas wrote: > when I installed Kubuntu it asked me for a user name and I chose 'sa'. It > did not ask for a 'root' password anywhere. It kinda did, you use sudo and your own password to do root commands. > Is there a 'root' account setup or should I set one up? There is one already, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo This frustrating at first as it is so illogical but soon it becomes habit. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From kassube at gmx.net Sat Jul 5 17:55:40 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:55:40 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: References: <200807051736.34072.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200807051955.40052.kassube@gmx.net> Perikli Thanasi wrote: > I did it... > but i didn't notice any changes..?!? Sorry, I think I missed something in the previous messages. It seems you now have a home directory /home/perikli but you would prefer to use the files in /media/disk/perikli instead. Then the command I gave really doesn't do what you wanted. And it isn't that easy to change to a non-standard home directory. > ps. It is possible to make these patitition my home ..now? I mean > change it like you could do it on windows...? I want that > /media/disk/perikli is my new home...but how i do it, if i can? and if > i do i...will contiun asking for the password when i open the file? Usually if you want to have a separate home partition, you would make an entry in /etc/fstab while in /media only removable media are mounted. If you let Kubuntu automatically mount the partition, it isn't guaranteed that it will always be in /media/disk. Therefore, it is better to use a fixed entry for the partition in /etc/fstab. The entry would be something like UUID=c1aa6372-bf97-4269-b6ae-0f2de85b0a52 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 where the UUID must match the UUID of _your_ partition - don't use the UUID mentioned above because that is only an example (it is one of my partitions). For a detailed explanation of what to do with /etc/fstab see . But you should know that if you change the mount point of your separate home partition to /home, you can't access the files which are now in your /home/perikli any longer. So you should move those files to the other partition first, i.e. from /home/perikli to /media/disk/perikli. And if you don't move the files, they would be still there, but you could only access them if you unmount the separate home partition. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat Jul 5 18:00:48 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:00:48 +0200 Subject: root account [was: Re: firewall] In-Reply-To: References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> Message-ID: <200807052000.48102.kassube@gmx.net> Jim Douglas wrote: > when I installed Kubuntu it asked me for a user name and I chose 'sa'. > It did not ask for a 'root' password anywhere. > > Is there a 'root' account setup or should I set one up? While there is a root account, it is locked. You would use sudo to execute commands as root. See . BTW: Please don't reply to an existing mail but start a new one. That way you don't hijack threads and you have a better chance to get a reply. Nils From jdz99 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 18:08:36 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:08:36 +0000 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> Message-ID: I have enabled the 'root' account...but now I get this error, Copying /root/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc /etc/ssh/ssh_config: line 52: Bad configuration option: PermitRootLogin /etc/ssh/ssh_config: line 53: Bad configuration option: AllowUsers /etc/ssh/ssh_config: terminating, 2 bad configuration options SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 Error: Terminating install sequence When I look at the documentation, I don't see what's wrong with those two lines ...this is my ssh_config, # This is the ssh client system-wide configuration file. See # ssh_config(5) for more information. This file provides defaults for # users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration files # or on the command line. # Configuration data is parsed as follows: # 1. command line options # 2. user-specific file # 3. system-wide file # Any configuration value is only changed the first time it is set. # Thus, host-specific definitions should be at the beginning of the # configuration file, and defaults at the end. # Site-wide defaults for some commonly used options. For a comprehensive # list of available options, their meanings and defaults, please see the # ssh_config(5) man page. Host * # ForwardAgent no # ForwardX11 no # ForwardX11Trusted yes # RhostsRSAAuthentication no # RSAAuthentication yes # PasswordAuthentication yes # HostbasedAuthentication no # GSSAPIAuthentication no # GSSAPIDelegateCredentials no # GSSAPIKeyExchange no # GSSAPITrustDNS no # BatchMode no # CheckHostIP yes # AddressFamily any # ConnectTimeout 0 # StrictHostKeyChecking ask # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa # Port 22 # Protocol 2,1 # Cipher 3des # Ciphers aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc # MACs hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,umac-64 at openssh.com,hmac-ripemd160 # EscapeChar ~ # Tunnel no # TunnelDevice any:any # PermitLocalCommand no SendEnv LANG LC_* HashKnownHosts yes GSSAPIAuthentication yes GSSAPIDelegateCredentials no PermitRootLogin yes AllowUsers root I also tried AllowUsers root root at localhost.com Jim > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:00:37 +0200 > From: fred.schaer at free.fr > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: firewall > > firewall builder is trying to setup the firewall using *root* account : > it connects via ssh to 127.0.0.1 for you, so you'll probably want to > check that root account has a password (and enter this one when asked), > and that root is allowed to connect via ssh on 127.0.0.1. I don't think > fwbuiled is able to use sudo (and that's a pity) when installing the > firewall, so don't try with your standard user account (I guess this is > the cause of the permission denied error) > > Personnally, to secure a bit the ssh thing, I have this line in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config : > > PermitRootLogin yes > AllowUsers me root at localhost > > Hope that helps... > Cheers > > Jim Douglas a écrit : > > I am trying to install FirewallBuilder on Kubuntu and keep getting > > this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 192.168.1.1:/etc > > SSH session terminated, exit status: -1 > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > I tried this, > > > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4586134 > > > > ...but now I get this error, > > > > Copying /home/sa/emma.fw -> 127.0.0.1:/etc > > *** Fatal error : > > --**--**-- Done bash: /etc/emma.fw: Permission denied > > Error: Terminating install sequence > > > > > > ....any suggestions? > > > > Perhaps someone could suggest a similar, easy to use firewall?? I'ts > > a simple network...my Kubuntu server/router allows internet access to > > one other machine... > > > > > > Thank you, > > Jim > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? Find > > out now. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perikli.thanasi at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 18:08:42 2008 From: perikli.thanasi at gmail.com (Perikli Thanasi) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:08:42 +0200 Subject: lost and found problem In-Reply-To: <200807051955.40052.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807051736.34072.kassube@gmx.net> <200807051955.40052.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Ok...thank you very much i will see what i can do now...:-) Thanks Perikli On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Perikli Thanasi wrote: > > I did it... > > but i didn't notice any changes..?!? > > Sorry, I think I missed something in the previous messages. It seems you > now have a home directory /home/perikli but you would prefer to use the > files in /media/disk/perikli instead. Then the command I gave really > doesn't do what you wanted. And it isn't that easy to change to a > non-standard home directory. > > > ps. It is possible to make these patitition my home ..now? I mean > > change it like you could do it on windows...? I want that > > /media/disk/perikli is my new home...but how i do it, if i can? and if > > i do i...will contiun asking for the password when i open the file? > > Usually if you want to have a separate home partition, you would make an > entry in /etc/fstab while in /media only removable media are mounted. If > you let Kubuntu automatically mount the partition, it isn't guaranteed > that it will always be in /media/disk. Therefore, it is better to use a > fixed entry for the partition in /etc/fstab. The entry would be something > like > > UUID=c1aa6372-bf97-4269-b6ae-0f2de85b0a52 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 > > where the UUID must match the UUID of _your_ partition - don't use the > UUID mentioned above because that is only an example (it is one of my > partitions). For a detailed explanation of what to do with /etc/fstab see > . > > But you should know that if you change the mount point of your separate > home partition to /home, you can't access the files which are now in > your /home/perikli any longer. So you should move those files to the > other partition first, i.e. from /home/perikli to /media/disk/perikli. > And if you don't move the files, they would be still there, but you could > only access them if you unmount the separate home partition. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 18:11:28 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:11:28 +0300 Subject: To journal or not to journal In-Reply-To: <486FB58D.8060004@rmk.co.il> References: <486FB58D.8060004@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <486FB950.6030205@gmail.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I have always used a journaling file system for my installs but have a collection of used hard > drives that all seem to have a 'dead' spot in roughly the same place (trying to do a fresh > install, using different versions and different distros, fails at the same point on all of them). > I know that when a hard drive begins to fail, the built-in hard drive software marks bad spots > and doesn't use them, and that when the user notices a 'bad spot', then all available 'software' > options have been used up. > > My question is, why is it that my collection of used Linux hard drives all have dead spots in > roughly the same place? Is it because of the journaling file system writing to the same place all > the time or is a coincidence? > If the former, what is a recommended file system to use - other than a journaling one? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > what i know though is that normal hard drives (don't know what they're called :P ) are not affected much by this journal, it is mainly solid state drives, i never had problems of bad sectors with any hard disk unless it's more than 7-8 years old, back on windows i used speedfan to monitor the s.m.a.r.t. values of the HD (it would be good if you know some similar utility in the repos), and the values were always good, whereas when i used ntfs on a usb flash drive, it died in almost 1 month, started forgetting the filesystem everytime i plug it! -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The predefined 'printers' & 'spool' are for the network printer *IMPORTANT* for /var/spool/samba tick the public box else network printing will not work ! Add the dirs you want to share ... tick the writable box The mounted dir & files needs to be owner 'nobody', group 'nogroup' You need to ... sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- samba: file share: M$ client my network places ... drill down add a network drive .. done :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- samba: file share: Linux client remote places > samba shares > ..... copy address to konqueror kfmclient openProfile filemanagement smb://main-system/samba --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- samba: printing: server Add a raw printer called 'SambaC46' via KDE system settings > printer. Cant use http://localhost:631, the option just aint there ! 'local printer' ... select printer ... tick RAW box sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- samba: printing: M$ client Control Panel > Printers & Faxes > Add a printer > A network printer Click the 'Connect to this printer' radio button, leave the name blank ... Searching for printers ... Double click 'MAIN-SYSTEM' Double click 'samba_C46' ..... follow the GUI .... :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- samba: printing: Linux kcontrol > add printer > SMB shared printer (windows) > Guest account (login=guest) Scan for printer on network, select it ... done :) -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Sat Jul 5 18:50:24 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:50:24 +0100 Subject: Does Kubuntu support WWAN (Wireless Wide Area Network) also known as WiMAX? Message-ID: <20080705195024.44f1e63c@rocker-desktop> My local Borough Council in the UK is starting a pilot project of WWAN (also known as WiMAX) and I wondered if Kubuntu incorporates and drivers to use dedicated cards, and if so which one is best. If you don't know any thing about WWAN see this link: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-wwan.htm and for details of my local Council's page: http://www.digitalmaidstone.co.uk/news/july 2008/maidstone pioneer wimax.aspx -- Graham Todd From jdz99 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 18:54:10 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:54:10 +0000 Subject: firewall In-Reply-To: <200807051059.12989.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <486E5735.2000209@free.fr> <200807051059.12989.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: > From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: firewall > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:59:12 -0700 > > On Saturday 05 July 2008 10:19:21 am Jim Douglas wrote: > > when I installed Kubuntu it asked me for a user name and I chose 'sa'. It > > did not ask for a 'root' password anywhere. > > It kinda did, you use sudo and your own password to do root commands. > > > Is there a 'root' account setup or should I set one up? > > There is one already, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo > > This frustrating at first as it is so illogical but soon it becomes habit. > > > -- > 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 > http://the-inner-circle.org > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle > http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >From the command line it makes perfecet sense. When GUI installers need root privelages what options do you have. I enabled the root account and logged on as root, is there any other way? 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For example, try > creating a file name touchpad.sh > > nano ~/.kde/Autostart/touchpad.sh > > And put the lines in it: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/bin/syndaemon -i 1 -d -t -K > > Then make it executable: > > chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/touchpad.sh > > Then logout and back in to have it start. > > hth > > Thanks to Paul S. and Perikli for solving the Dell wandering keyboard problem for me. Larry From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 00:31:16 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:31:16 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) Message-ID: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I don't understand the form of the command. My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. I have Admin rights as a user on the system. Thanks, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 00:40:26 2008 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:40:26 -0400 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> kdesu is used for graphical root access On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 8:31 PM, David wrote: > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of Ubuntu > could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under "root". I > understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I don't understand > the form of the command. > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to run > it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > Thanks, > > David > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 01:15:43 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:15:43 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5010b260807051815vff07461r112d97399399e96d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I would understand this is also run from the terminal window? How do I then call up Adept Manager? Is is the command more general to then use (I'm in Gnome) the desk top graphically. I have looked for help on the web but I think I'm confused as I'm asking a really basic question. Thanks again for any assistance. David On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:40 AM, John DeCarlo wrote: > kdesu is used for graphical root access > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 8:31 PM, David wrote: > >> Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of Ubuntu >> could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under "root". I >> understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I don't understand >> the form of the command. >> >> My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to run >> it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. >> >> I have Admin rights as a user on the system. >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jul 6 01:29:46 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:29:46 +0100 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4870200A.8090704@tiscali.co.uk> David wrote: > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of > Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under > "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I > don't understand the form of the command. > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to > run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > Thanks, > > David > > Doesn't clicking on the menu item for Adept bring up the password dialogue? There should be no need under normal circumstances to run a graphical program from the terminal and those that need to be run as root should automatically do so. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 01:35:15 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:35:15 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <4870200A.8090704@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <4870200A.8090704@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" Confused. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Wulfy wrote: > David wrote: > > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of > > Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under > > "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I > > don't understand the form of the command. > > > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to > > run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > > Doesn't clicking on the menu item for Adept bring up the password > dialogue? There should be no need under normal circumstances to run a > graphical program from the terminal and those that need to be run as > root should automatically do so. > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann > > Wulf Credo: > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cary at bielenberg.id.au Sun Jul 6 01:45:16 2008 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:45:16 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: David, There is a problem with Kubuntu at present where the password required is the root password not your elevated password. If you do a sudo passwd root & setup the root password (not recommended) it will use the real root's password. One problem at the moment if you are using intrepid is adept will crash soon after you put in the password anyway :-( Cary _____ From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 11:35 AM To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: Re: sudo - adept manager (?) I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" Confused. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Wulfy wrote: David wrote: > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of > Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under > "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I > don't understand the form of the command. > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to > run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > Thanks, > > David > > Doesn't clicking on the menu item for Adept bring up the password dialogue? There should be no need under normal circumstances to run a graphical program from the terminal and those that need to be run as root should automatically do so. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 01:52:41 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:52:41 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: References: <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5010b260807051852o28d4112fne12e264f642e85b8@mail.gmail.com> Bewdy , thanks for that - whew not user error!! David On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > David, > > There is a problem with Kubuntu at present where the password > required is the root password not your elevated password. If you do a sudo > passwd root & setup the root password (not recommended) it will use the real > root's password. One problem at the moment if you are using intrepid is > adept will crash soon after you put in the password anyway L > > > > > > Cary > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto: > kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Sunday, 6 July 2008 11:35 AM > *To:* Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > *Subject:* Re: sudo - adept manager (?) > > > > I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: > > "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, > remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special > administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or > sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" > > Confused. > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Wulfy wrote: > > David wrote: > > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of > > Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under > > "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I > > don't understand the form of the command. > > > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to > > run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > > > Doesn't clicking on the menu item for Adept bring up the password > dialogue? There should be no need under normal circumstances to run a > graphical program from the terminal and those that need to be run as > root should automatically do so. > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann > > Wulf Credo: > Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. > Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. > Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. > Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cary at bielenberg.id.au Sun Jul 6 01:59:56 2008 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:59:56 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051852o28d4112fne12e264f642e85b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10C382A3-3FF0-4F17-9AFE-DF57164AC686@mail.bielenberg.id.au> Am Aussie too live in QLD :-) Cary _____ From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 11:53 AM To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: Re: sudo - adept manager (?) Bewdy , thanks for that - whew not user error!! David On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Cary Bielenberg wrote: David, There is a problem with Kubuntu at present where the password required is the root password not your elevated password. If you do a sudo passwd root & setup the root password (not recommended) it will use the real root's password. One problem at the moment if you are using intrepid is adept will crash soon after you put in the password anyway :-( Cary _____ From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 11:35 AM To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: Re: sudo - adept manager (?) I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" Confused. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Wulfy wrote: David wrote: > Sorry if this seems obvious but being new to the wonderful world of > Ubuntu could you let me know the correct way to run Adept Manger under > "root". I understand the command sudo does that under Terminal but I > don't understand the form of the command. > > My objective is to fetch updates by using Adept Manager but I need to > run it as "root". I am using Ubuntu 8.04 - Hardy Heron. > > I have Admin rights as a user on the system. > > Thanks, > > David > > Doesn't clicking on the menu item for Adept bring up the password dialogue? There should be no need under normal circumstances to run a graphical program from the terminal and those that need to be run as root should automatically do so. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 02:01:09 2008 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:01:09 -0400 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051815vff07461r112d97399399e96d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> <5010b260807051815vff07461r112d97399399e96d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0807051901s7166b3e5q361bb5d845a4c199@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, David wrote: > Thanks, I would understand this is also run from the terminal window? > > How do I then call up Adept Manager? Is is the command more general to > then use (I'm in Gnome) the desk top graphically. I have looked for help on > the web but I think I'm confused as I'm asking a really basic question. > Then type kdesu adept-manager -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 02:12:00 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:12:00 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0807051901s7166b3e5q361bb5d845a4c199@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> <5010b260807051815vff07461r112d97399399e96d@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051901s7166b3e5q361bb5d845a4c199@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5010b260807051912y819cfc4uf2fe6080f7d0bcba@mail.gmail.com> Thanks I now see how to do it. Does seem to be a bug though as it still didn't work as per previous "password issue" comments in the thread. David On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, David wrote: > >> Thanks, I would understand this is also run from the terminal window? >> >> How do I then call up Adept Manager? Is is the command more general to >> then use (I'm in Gnome) the desk top graphically. I have looked for help on >> the web but I think I'm confused as I'm asking a really basic question. >> > > > > Then type > > kdesu adept-manager > > > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 6 02:25:51 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:25:51 -0400 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051912y819cfc4uf2fe6080f7d0bcba@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051740v391c5841gfe6369f5feebfbd1@mail.gmail.com> <5010b260807051815vff07461r112d97399399e96d@mail.gmail.com> <3dde113c0807051901s7166b3e5q361bb5d845a4c199@mail.gmail.com> <5010b260807051912y819cfc4uf2fe6080f7d0bcba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48702D2F.5060501@sbcglobal.net> David wrote: > Thanks I now see how to do it. > > Does seem to be a bug though as it still didn't work as per previous > "password issue" comments in the thread. > > David > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John DeCarlo > wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, David > wrote: > > Thanks, I would understand this is also run from the terminal > window? > > How do I then call up Adept Manager? Is is the command more > general to then use (I'm in Gnome) the desk top graphically. > I have looked for help on the web but I think I'm confused as > I'm asking a really basic question. > > > > > Then type > > kdesu adept-manager > > > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I just read your post. Gnome is a desktop. KDE is also a desktop, however, KDE is the desktop that provides Adept Package Manager. I believe you can also install KDE desktop to your computer without conflict with Gnome. That way you can open your computer in KDE to access Adept Package Manager. I use and prefer KDE myself. I hope this is useful information for you. Steven From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Jul 6 02:31:12 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (david) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:31:12 -0400 Subject: flat screen tv as monitor Message-ID: <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone@att.net> Hi all. I recently acquired a philips 21in flat screen TV and I would like to use it as a monitor for my desktop. Earlier today I fired it up on my desktop using an S-Video cable because it didn't have a vga to DMI cable and the picture was grainy and the fonts were completely unreadable. It was horrible. I managed to get a half-way decent looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so big that it doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the cursor to either side. My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI cable instead of the S-Video cable? Or do I need to get a better Graphics card? Or should I just give up hope alltogether? -- David M. From james at gray.net.au Sun Jul 6 03:08:40 2008 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:08:40 +1000 Subject: testing firewall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 06/07/2008, at 5:09 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > The Firewall Builder install said it was successful, my System > Services does not show the Firewall Builder so I can't stop/start > it. It configured IPTables, IPTables does not show either under > System Services. > > How can I test my Firewall? > > Jim sudo iptables -L ...will show you what rules are active in the INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD/etc tables. To see a specific table (such as pre/post-route and mangle) use this: sudo iptables -L -t mangle Assuming you added some log rules, you should see the rule hits (rejects?) in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/kern.log. If you're asking for a basic smoke-test of your firewall rules, try Gibson Research's "Shields Up!" service at https://www.grc.com/. I'm not a huge fan of Steve Gibson, but his "Shields Up!" is a reasonable smoke test for critical services (ports 0-1055). Why port 1055?!? I have NFI as it is an unprivileged port....but there you go; Steve Gibson has his own take on these sort of things. HTH, James From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Jul 6 04:15:02 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:15:02 -0400 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <4870200A.8090704@tiscali.co.uk> <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807060015.02148.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 05 July 2008, David wrote: >I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: > >"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, >remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special >administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or >sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" > >Confused. Have you established a root password? ISTR I read that you had in a previous msg a few days ago. I thought I was being cute when I did that, but things got so confused I had to reinstall after I had removed the root user and password in an attempt to fix it back to the ubuntu way. If you have done that, then you might make it work when you do a "sudo adept" from a cli screen if you use the root password you setup, but the normal acceptance of your use password by sudo will not be valid anymore. sudo application_name Just Works(TM) if you will let it. And I suspect the easiest total fix once a root passsword has been setup, is to format & reinstall. Save your data off someplace so you can copy it back after the reinstall. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A subversive is anyone who can out-argue their government. From davidp540 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 06:17:41 2008 From: davidp540 at gmail.com (David) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:17:41 +1000 Subject: sudo - adept manager (?) In-Reply-To: <200807060015.02148.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <5010b260807051731y2de03f0ufe73e95a5d82d4b1@mail.gmail.com> <4870200A.8090704@tiscali.co.uk> <5010b260807051835v695d81a9ybfc9a98a55c242be@mail.gmail.com> <200807060015.02148.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5010b260807052317j7b9addb6p9b41abf71e068977@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I have established that setting up a root password is way too dangerous. I have found that I can do an upgrade from a downloaded CD with less risk. Thanks to everyone for the help. David On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2008, David wrote: > >I get the following dialog box when I run Adept Manager: > > > >"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, > >remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special > >administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or > >sudo programs to be able to perform these actions" > > > >Confused. > > Have you established a root password? ISTR I read that you had in a > previous > msg a few days ago. > > I thought I was being cute when I did that, but things got so confused I > had to > reinstall after I had removed the root user and password in an attempt to > fix > it back to the ubuntu way. > > If you have done that, then you might make it work when you do a "sudo > adept" > from a cli screen if you use the root password you setup, but the normal > acceptance of your use password by sudo will not be valid anymore. > > sudo application_name Just Works(TM) if you will let it. And I suspect the > easiest total fix once a root passsword has been setup, is to format & > reinstall. Save your data off someplace so you can copy it back after the > reinstall. > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > A subversive is anyone who can out-argue their government. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 07:24:04 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:24:04 +0200 Subject: OT: Linux acceptance (was: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu) In-Reply-To: <880dece00807050502t8ad9f4dkdd592cc50a8da629@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807050502t8ad9f4dkdd592cc50a8da629@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48707314.80200@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/4 O. Sinclair : >> and since Dell generally does a good job of supporting Ubuntu that could >> be an interesting way to go. >> > > Had I heard that statement just two years ago, I would have laughed > right off the chair. Look at had far we've come (Dell, ATI, etc.). > Why I stated that was not only because they distribute a few models with Ubuntu and some with Red Hat but also because I am on their "linux user" mailinglist and the Dell people are quite active in assisting people with their problems. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 07:26:59 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:26:59 +0200 Subject: How to stop wandering cursor in Kubuntu Linux Dell 1420 In-Reply-To: <486EA75F.2090006@mindspring.com> References: <486EA75F.2090006@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <487073C3.4070408@gmail.com> Larry Alkoff wrote: > My cursor jumps all over the place in Kubuntu Linux on my Dell 1420 laptop. > > I've read about a fix for Ubuntu but can't see how to apply it to Kubuntu. > > The fix talks about editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf which I have done > and > > Now, navigate to System > Preferences > Sessions > and click on "Add". Name it something like "Touchpad Syndaemon", the > description can be "Disables touchpad while typing", and the all important > command you need is "syndaemon -i 1 -d -t -K". > > > There is no such thing as System > Preferences > Sessions in Kubuntu > and I don't know what that gui thing does. > > I'd greatly appreciate if anyone could point me to a fix or just explain > what System > Preferences > Sessions does in Ubuntu so I could fix it on > the command line in Kubuntu. > I assume you mean when you use the touchpad and BOY do I recognize that one. However there are a few remedies. One: disable touchpad clicking altogether by adding a line to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: Option "MaxTapTime" "0" this line has to be in the Section "Inputdevice" with Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad". Then use the "click-buttons" instead to click. Two: download "Touchfreeze" from sourceforge - I dont find it working but maybe you do Three: download KSynaptics from the Gutsy repositories and install. Voila, you have a Touchpad section in System Settings, Keyboard and Mouse, and can set tapping, sensitivity etc. from there. It took me a bit of figuring out how to get the package (use the http://... line from you sources list and then find the gutsy and so on) but it works perfect. So I am on option 3 in other words. Regards and good luck, Sinclair From hvontres at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 07:47:37 2008 From: hvontres at gmail.com (Hans Henry von Tresckow) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:47:37 -0700 Subject: flat screen tv as monitor In-Reply-To: <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, david wrote: > Hi all. > > I recently acquired a philips 21in flat screen TV and I would like to use > it > as a monitor for my desktop. > > Earlier today I fired it up on my desktop using an S-Video cable because it > didn't have a vga to DMI cable and the picture was grainy and the fonts > were > completely unreadable. It was horrible. I managed to get a half-way decent > looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so big that it > doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the cursor to > either > side. > > My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI cable > instead of the S-Video cable? Or do I need to get a better Graphics card? > Or > should I just give up hope alltogether? > > -- > David M. By all means, get a VGA to DMI cable. The SVGA signal is still just at SDTV resolution. I have tested my laptop on my 40" sony, and the picture was great. Good luck -- Henry von Tresckow (hvontres) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hamra) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:25:50 +0300 Subject: flat screen tv as monitor In-Reply-To: References: <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <48709DAE.30409@gmail.com> Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, david wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I recently acquired a philips 21in flat screen TV and I would like to use >> it >> as a monitor for my desktop. >> >> Earlier today I fired it up on my desktop using an S-Video cable because it >> didn't have a vga to DMI cable and the picture was grainy and the fonts >> were >> completely unreadable. It was horrible. I managed to get a half-way decent >> looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so big that it >> doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the cursor to >> either >> side. >> >> My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI cable >> instead of the S-Video cable? Or do I need to get a better Graphics card? >> Or >> should I just give up hope alltogether? >> >> -- >> David M. > > > By all means, get a VGA to DMI cable. The SVGA signal is still just at SDTV > resolution. I have tested my laptop on my 40" sony, and the picture was > great. > > Good luck > > i tried my desktop once on my sony trinitron flat tv, and the fonts were also unreadable, i could ply games well :P but reading is impossible, it's as if the TV has less DPI than the PC monitor, is this true? -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I managed to get a half-way > > decent looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so big > > that it doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the > > cursor to either > > side. > > > > My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI cable > > instead of the S-Video cable? Or do I need to get a better Graphics card? > > Or > > should I just give up hope alltogether? > > > > -- > > David M. > > By all means, get a VGA to DMI cable. The SVGA signal is still just at > SDTV resolution. I have tested my laptop on my 40" sony, and the picture > was great. Here are the specs for this tv. I'm wondering if i'll be able to get a better picture with the DMI cable since from what I understand this tv can only get 800x600 max resolution. What do you think? http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/plasma-lcd-televisions/m/14794624/details/ -- David M. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 6 14:41:02 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:41:02 -0300 Subject: How to stop wandering cursor in Kubuntu Linux Dell 1420 References: <486EA75F.2090006@mindspring.com> <487073C3.4070408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1826604.tuFK5kT2cl@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > One: disable touchpad clicking altogether by adding a line to your > /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: > Option "MaxTapTime" "0" > this line has to be in the Section "Inputdevice" with Identifier > "Synaptics Touchpad". Then use the "click-buttons" instead to click. > > Two: download "Touchfreeze" from sourceforge - I dont find it working > but maybe you do > Three: download KSynaptics from the Gutsy repositories and install. > Voila, you have a Touchpad section in System Settings, Keyboard and > Mouse, and can set tapping, sensitivity etc. from there. otoh, on my system, ksynaptics does nothing for me (and I haven't tried option 2), but option 1 works well. If I knew why one version works on one system and not another, I'd be a guru :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 6 14:35:51 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:35:51 -0300 Subject: Does Kubuntu support WWAN (Wireless Wide Area Network) also known as WiMAX? References: <20080705195024.44f1e63c@rocker-desktop> Message-ID: <1778580.rFd35z4WjY@cedar.serverforest.com> Graham Todd wrote: > My local Borough Council in the UK is starting a pilot project of WWAN > (also known as WiMAX) Let's be precise here. A WWAN can be implemented using WiMAX, but they're not the samething at all. A WWAN is purely a networking topological concept, whereas WiMax is a hardware implementation of a wireless ethernet. You're implementing a WWAN using WiMax, but it could be done in other ways, and WiMax could be used for non-WWAN networks. > and I wondered if Kubuntu incorporates and drivers > to use dedicated cards, and if so which one is best. "Kubuntu" has nothing to do with kernel drivers. The question is first whether such drivers have been written for linux (any variety), and then whether Ubuntu has packaged them. There are Linux drivers (see http://linuxwimax.org/). It appears from there that there may not be support for anything but Intel (no surprise - Intel has been very good about supporting Linux in all areas). The Intel wimax driver is included in the current ubuntu kernel (linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic), and is the only mention of "wimax" I can find in current packages, so I think you're stuck with Intel. > If you don't know any thing about WWAN see this link: > > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-wwan.htm LOL. They make the same mistake you did - except they think WWAN is a synonym for a cellular-based wireless network: no WiMax at all! -- derek From jdz99 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 6 16:13:49 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:13:49 +0000 Subject: testing firewall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > From: james at gray.net.au > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: testing firewall > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:08:40 +1000 > > > On 06/07/2008, at 5:09 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > > The Firewall Builder install said it was successful, my System > > Services does not show the Firewall Builder so I can't stop/start > > it. It configured IPTables, IPTables does not show either under > > System Services. > > > > How can I test my Firewall? > > > > Jim > > sudo iptables -L > > ...will show you what rules are active in the INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD/etc > tables. To see a specific table (such as pre/post-route and mangle) > use this: > > sudo iptables -L -t mangle > > Assuming you added some log rules, you should see the rule hits > (rejects?) in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/kern.log. > > If you're asking for a basic smoke-test of your firewall rules, try > Gibson Research's "Shields Up!" service at https://www.grc.com/. I'm > not a huge fan of Steve Gibson, but his "Shields Up!" is a reasonable > smoke test for critical services (ports 0-1055). Why port 1055?!? I > have NFI as it is an unprivileged port....but there you go; Steve > Gibson has his own take on these sort of things. > > HTH, > > James > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users It looks like the service is not started, sudo iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Log File, Jul 6 12:02:17 sa-desktop kernel: [56557.085291] ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team I'm not sure how to stop/start it. I created the Firewall with Firewall Builder and it installed successfully... sudo iptables -L -t mangle target prot opt source destination Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Thanks, Jim _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database (very good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will buy works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products to come starting from now on. So, I ask to you if you like the idea and agree, if there is still a similar projects (if so, where?), and, in case the project should start, to spread in all Linux mailing lists you know all around the world. Obviously, I will submit the petition to you all before starting the petition. (Sorry for my poor English, I hope you understood my words) Regards -- Valter Gnupgp ID: 0xD7274715 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 6 17:53:28 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:53:28 -0400 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48710698.5080801@cfl.rr.com> Message: 5 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:31:12 -0400 From: david Subject: flat screen tv as monitor To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message: 5 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:31:12 -0400 From: david > Subject: flat screen tv as monitor To: Kubuntu > Help and User Discussions , > "ChristianSource Group." , Central OH Linux > User Group Message-ID: > <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" > Hi all. I recently acquired a philips 21in flat screen TV and I would > like to use it as a monitor for my desktop. Earlier today I fired it > up on my desktop using an S-Video cable because it didn't have a vga > to DMI cable and the picture was grainy and the fonts were completely > unreadable. It was horrible. I managed to get a half-way decent > looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so big > that it doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the > cursor to either side. > My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI > cable instead of the S-Video cable? No! As far as I know there is no such thing as a VGA-to-DMI cable. What you need is a DMI cable. DMI is a digital signal carrier, while VGA is analog. > Or do I need to get a better Graphics card? Yes, for DMI you probably need a new graphics card, the best route to go. > Or should I just give up hope alltogether? No! See answer above. > -- David M. To solve the "huge" screen problem, you need to make sure you have a high resolution and go to the "Settings", "Peripherals" and "Monitor & Display" window and change the refresh rate to the highest available. Sometimes the second highest will do, but in any case it won't hurt your monitor or graphics card. Hope this helps!!! Tom From jdz99 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 6 18:07:45 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:07:45 +0000 Subject: startup script Message-ID: I installed a firewall and want to make sure it starts up in the right place on reboot. These are the instructions I am getting from the Firewall Builder site, they have nothing for Kubuntu... The universal method is to put generated script in /etc or /etc/firewall directory and add a line at the bottom of script /etc/rc.d/rc.local (Mandrake and RedHat) or /etc/init.d/boot.local (SuSE) like this: /etc/firewall/firewall.fw This way, firewall script runs when machine executes boot-time scripts. The name of the file is the same as the name of the firewall object in Firewall Builder GUI, with extension ".fw". So, if firewall object name is guardian, then fwbuilder puts generated policy in the file guardian.fw. What is the most secure process to start up at boot time? Thanks, Jim _________________________________________________________________ It’s a talkathon – but it’s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Installing is very easy - > just copy 3 different files into different places, modify the firewall script, update running > services and start script as firewall. Everyting is well documented and easy to use. > > You can put to file /etc/rc.local the following row: > /usr/sbin/narc start > .... to start NARC automatically at boot. > > Then after you configured the NARC and started it - you may forget it. It just works. If you need > some ports to be open, just reconfigure /etc/narc/narc.conf to fit your needs, restart NARC daemon > and that's it! > > But NARC will not start if there is no IP-address at selected network interface. This is commonly > when network interface is just not up or getting IP-address takes some time over DHCP. Then you need > some pause before the NARC will start to give some time for network interface starting up: > sleep 10; /usr/sbin/narc start > ... this "10" is the time in seconds, after when the system will run followed command. If 10 seconds > is not enough for your computer - give some more time :) Just test it. > > You may check firewall working like this: > sudo iptables -L > or > sudo narc status > > > If sudo iptables -L gives you picture like this: > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > ... then no firewall is working. > > If NARC is working - there will be much more longer information in table. > > > Best Regards, > Edmund > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users the narc site has been down...I have configured my home network with Firewall Builder.. I have a Linux PC with Firewall on eth0 dynamic ip, eth1(static IP) has a windows PC. I can browse the web with the Windows PC but can't with the PC that I installed the firewall on, ...this is the output from iptables -L, root at sa-desktop:~/Desktop/fwbuilder-3.0.0# sudo iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED In_RULE_0 all -- 172.25.25.16 anywhere In_RULE_0 all -- 192.168.1.1 anywhere In_RULE_0 all -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW ACCEPT tcp -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:ssh state NEW RULE_4 all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW ACCEPT all -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere state NEW RULE_6 all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED In_RULE_0 all -- 172.25.25.16 anywhere In_RULE_0 all -- 192.168.1.1 anywhere In_RULE_0 all -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere ACCEPT all -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere state NEW RULE_6 all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW Chain OUTPUT (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW RULE_3 all -- anywhere 192.168.1.0/24 state NEW RULE_4 all -- anywhere 172.25.25.16 state NEW RULE_4 all -- anywhere 192.168.1.1 state NEW ACCEPT all -- 192.168.1.0/24 anywhere state NEW RULE_6 all -- anywhere anywhere state NEW Chain In_RULE_0 (6 references) target prot opt source destination LOG all -- anywhere anywhere LOG level info prefix `RULE 0 -- DENY ' DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain RULE_3 (1 references) target prot opt source destination LOG all -- anywhere anywhere LOG level info prefix `RULE 3 -- ACCEPT ' ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere Chain RULE_4 (3 references) target prot opt source destination LOG all -- anywhere anywhere LOG level info prefix `RULE 4 -- DENY ' DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Chain RULE_6 (3 references) target prot opt source destination LOG all -- anywhere anywhere LOG level info prefix `RULE 6 -- DENY ' DROP all -- anywhere anywhere Thank for your help, Jim _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iceqbe at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 20:55:01 2008 From: iceqbe at gmail.com (IceQbe) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:55:01 +0200 Subject: To journal or not to journal In-Reply-To: <486FB950.6030205@gmail.com> References: <486FB58D.8060004@rmk.co.il> <486FB950.6030205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48713125.1070403@gmail.com> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I have always used a journaling file system for my installs but have a collection of used hard >> drives that all seem to have a 'dead' spot in roughly the same place (trying to do a fresh >> install, using different versions and different distros, fails at the same point on all of them). >> I know that when a hard drive begins to fail, the built-in hard drive software marks bad spots >> and doesn't use them, and that when the user notices a 'bad spot', then all available 'software' >> options have been used up. >> >> My question is, why is it that my collection of used Linux hard drives all have dead spots in >> roughly the same place? Is it because of the journaling file system writing to the same place all >> the time or is a coincidence? >> If the former, what is a recommended file system to use - other than a journaling one? >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> > what i know though is that normal hard drives (don't know what they're > called :P ) are not affected much by this journal, it is mainly solid > state drives, i never had problems of bad sectors with any hard disk > unless it's more than 7-8 years old, back on windows i used speedfan to > monitor the s.m.a.r.t. values of the HD (it would be good if you know > some similar utility in the repos), and the values were always good, > whereas when i used ntfs on a usb flash drive, it died in almost 1 > month, started forgetting the filesystem everytime i plug it! > > smartmontools? http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/smartmontools From john.j35 at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 20:55:44 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:55:44 -0500 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > Hi All, > > as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware (I > mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" > or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to open a > signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. > The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world (such > as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more will > be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the > products. > I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, they will > be compelled to listen to us, one day. > I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database (very > good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will buy > works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. > The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products to > come starting from now on. > > So, I ask to you if you like the idea and agree, if there is still a similar > projects (if so, where?), and, in case the project should start, to spread in > all Linux mailing lists you know all around the world. > > Obviously, I will submit the petition to you all before starting the petition. > > (Sorry for my poor English, I hope you understood my words) > I suggested this some years ago and they could offset the cost of developing the linux driver by not shipping a disk or cd with the merchandise. They could store all the drivers on an option rom onboard teh device, including expansion cards, then the os would just query the device for the necessary driver and download from the rom. Never again would be forever looking for the driver disk for a device. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From slewin at bmts.com Sun Jul 6 23:14:09 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:14:09 -0400 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <487151C1.5040106@bmts.com> John Pierce wrote: > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Valter Mura wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware (I >> mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" >> or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to open a >> signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. >> The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world (such >> as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more will >> be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the >> products. >> I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, they will >> be compelled to listen to us, one day. >> I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database (very >> good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will buy >> works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. >> The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products to >> come starting from now on. Already, I have always asked companies when I can to have Linux support and I only purchase computer equipment from companies that support Linux. These are the two most important ways to get companies to change and I am willing to help out as I can. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From stan10x10 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 02:23:24 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:23:24 -0400 Subject: flat screen tv as monitor In-Reply-To: <200807060924.13175.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200807052231.12844.d.mcglone@att.net> <200807060924.13175.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0807061923i40db2r4baf83a4d914313f@mail.gmail.com> Svhs will only carry interlaced signal which on a tv designed for progressive looks like feces. DMI adapter is cheap so at least give it a try. uriah On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:24 AM, david wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2008 3:47:37 am Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, david wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I recently acquired a philips 21in flat screen TV and I would like to > use > > > it > > > as a monitor for my desktop. > > > > > > Earlier today I fired it up on my desktop using an S-Video cable > because > > > it didn't have a vga to DMI cable and the picture was grainy and the > > > fonts were > > > completely unreadable. It was horrible. I managed to get a half-way > > > decent looking desktop by using 800x600, but this makes everything so > big > > > that it doesn't fit and the whole desktop scrolls when you move the > > > cursor to either > > > side. > > > > > > My question is, would I get a better picture if I used a VGA to DMI > cable > > > instead of the S-Video cable? Or do I need to get a better Graphics > card? > > > Or > > > should I just give up hope alltogether? > > > > > > -- > > > David M. > > > > By all means, get a VGA to DMI cable. The SVGA signal is still just at > > SDTV resolution. I have tested my laptop on my 40" sony, and the picture > > was great. > > Here are the specs for this tv. I'm wondering if i'll be able to get a > better > picture with the DMI cable since from what I understand this tv can only > get > 800x600 max resolution. What do you think? > > > http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/plasma-lcd-televisions/m/14794624/details/ > > -- > David M. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:15:28 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:15:28 -0600 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <486F6870.7070900@mail.ee> References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> <486F6870.7070900@mail.ee> Message-ID: So I guess most video cards work with linux now? Anyone had any horror stories with cards not working? Maybe most of the problems with video drivers in linux are in the past. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > the opensource Ati stuff is still very beta > > I installed at 22th June 2008 ATI drivers from its web page and got it > working! > > Current tutorial is about uninstalling Ubuntu ATI drivers and install > ATI-AMD driver from its webpage. > > Some links > ********** > tutorial: > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide > > main driver page: > http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html > > exact URL for driver download > > https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run > > Used distro: Estobuntu 8.01 stable (based on Kubuntu 7.10) - > http://estobuntu.org/estobuntu-english > > I apologize - some messages are in Estonian language due to localized > Ubuntu distro. > > 1) Build package > ***************** > $ sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy > Created directory fglrx-install.pU6710 > Verifying archive integrity... All good. > Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.501....... > ================================================== > ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager > ================================================== > Generating package: Ubuntu/gutsy > Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb > has been successfully > generated > Package > /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has > been successfully > generated > Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb > has been successfully > generated > Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has > been successfully generated > Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.pU6710 > > > > 2) Modify file > *************** > $ sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common > > DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx" > > Save file with F3 and exit with F2 from nano. > > If you have the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted then uncomment > there "fglrx" to get ATI > proprietary drivers to work > > 3) Install prepared packages > **************************** > > $ sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx*.deb fglrx-kernel-source*.deb > fglrx-amdcccle*.deb > Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx valimine. > (Andmebaasi lugemine ... hetkel on paigaldatud 102569 faili ja kataloogi.) > Paki xorg-driver-fglrx lahtipakkimine (failist > xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... > Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev valimine. > Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev lahtipakkimine (failist > xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... > Varem valimata paki fglrx-kernel-source valimine. > Paki fglrx-kernel-source lahtipakkimine (failist > fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... > Varem valimata paki fglrx-amdcccle valimine. > Paki fglrx-amdcccle lahtipakkimine (failist > fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... > Paki xorg-driver-fglrx (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... > * Starting atieventsd > [ OK ] > > Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... > Paki fglrx-kernel-source (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... > Adding Module to DKMS build system > Doing initial module build > Installing initial module > Warning! Cannot do version sanity checking because multiple fglrx.ko > modules were found in kernel 2.6.22-15-generic. > Done. > > Paki fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... > > If there remains dependencies, fix them: > sudo apt-get install -f > > Then correct the system: > sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean > > > 4) Modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf > **************************** > > Section "Device" > ... > Option "VideoOverlay" "on" > Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" > Driver "fglrx" > ... > EndSection > ...... > Section "device" # > ... > Driver "fglrx" > Option "VideoOverlay" "on" > Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" > ... > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Mode 0666 > EndSection > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AIGLX" "off" > EndSection > > Now restart the system! > > 5) Check > ******** > > $ fglrxinfo > display: :0.0 screen: 0 > OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. > OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series > OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release > > $ glxgears > 8059 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1611,728 FPS > 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,617 FPS > 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,650 FPS > 8048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,492 FPS > > So, it works like a charm! > > 6) Some pictures about new ATI Catalyst Center: > > http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/ati_catalyst_control_center > > 7) Compiled driver packages are available here: > > http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/valmistatud_pakid_22-06-2008 > > 8) Another error - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/211318 - this is > also in Kubuntu 7.10 > To fix it, open /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh and instead of: > > XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A$1* > > write: > > XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/run/xauth/A$1* > > > Best Regards, > Edmund > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:19:40 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:19:40 -0600 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <487151C1.5040106@bmts.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <487151C1.5040106@bmts.com> Message-ID: I would definitely sign if you got this up and running, and I'd also try to get my friends to sign. Also, your English is fine, don't worry about it. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Scott wrote: > John Pierce wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Valter Mura > wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware > (I > >> mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" > >> or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to > open a > >> signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. > >> The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world > (such > >> as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more > will > >> be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the > >> products. > >> I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, > they will > >> be compelled to listen to us, one day. > >> I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database > (very > >> good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will > buy > >> works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. > >> The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all > products to > >> come starting from now on. > Already, I have always asked companies when I can to have Linux support > and I only purchase computer equipment from companies that support > Linux. These are the two most important ways to get companies to change > and I am willing to help out as I can. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:27:18 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:27:18 -0600 Subject: Ipod Troubles Message-ID: I have two problems, is there a way to sync an ipod with amarok? I don't mean just transfer songs, but I mean sync as in, it'll delete songs on my ipod that aren't in my library, and add ones that are. I've googled this one, but I can't find anything, meaning it's either really obvious or there is no way to do it. I have a first generation video ipod. Also, I installed kubuntu for my friend, and it doesn't want to recognize his ipod touch, it thinks that it's a camera. Anyone know how to fix that? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:37:22 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:37:22 -0600 Subject: Strange keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807030357s4bb9f256o1c46b68154a8be85@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> <15edeae40807030357s4bb9f256o1c46b68154a8be85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah same here, maybe we should report a bug? It's not too bad though, I always just press the button when I switch operating systems. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Willy Hamra wrote: > this also happened with me on hardy (32 bit), when i set the numlock to be > on at startup, it started to be **ON** but the LED working in reverse! > > 2008/7/2 Thomas K. Gamble : > > After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the >> numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on >> and >> the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot to a >> console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. I >> can't >> find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any clues? >> >> -- >> Thomas K. Gamble >> System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer >> Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) >> Los Alamos National Laboratory >> MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 >> >> There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. >> Henry Kissinger >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > > -- > Will Rogers - "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report > the facts." > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:43:10 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:43:10 -0600 Subject: Rear Audio ports not working Message-ID: When I'm in kubuntu, my rear audio ports don't work. When I have mic/speakers/headphones plugged into the back of my computer they never input/output any sound, but if I have them plugged in on the front, they work fine. It's not a hardware problem, as they work fine in windows. I have no idea what the problem is, but I'd love a solution. Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 05:47:00 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:47:00 -0600 Subject: Xorg nvidia issue with Kubuntu Hardy.. HowTo enabling nvidia restricted driver preference over the free nv In-Reply-To: <486363B0.5050804@noiraude.net> References: <486363B0.5050804@noiraude.net> Message-ID: Now that you have display, you could go to kmenu>system>Hardware Drivers Manager. That's the easy that worked for me. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Lea Gris wrote: > Hello, > > What is the proper way to setup preference on the Nvidia restricted driver > over the free generic nv driver? > > On my laptop with nvidia 9600 wide screen 1280x960, Kubuntu load the free > nv driver and it fail tu properly setup the screen, so I can't reach/see the > desktop environment. > > So, using shell, I installed the restricted-drivers and nvidia-glx. > > But Xorg still decide to load the free nv driver instead, and as it fail to > properly setup a wide screen properly and miss the hardware OpenGL, I ned to > avoid this. > > For now, I manually edited Xorg.conf and added a line > Driver "nvidia" into the Device section. > > This enable me to load and access the Kdesktop environment on my laptop > using the Nvidia restricted driver, but this raise a major issue: > > Adding hardcoded driver into Xorg.conf, break the new Xorg > autoconfiguration feature and it may break uppon upgrades. > > The Kde system I use is installed on an external USB drive to be moved and > booted on different computer unit/configuration/locations like school lab or > friend's PC, not only my laptop. > So I realy need the Xorg autoconfiguration to work without any hardcoded > device setup. The GFX card may vary from Intel, ATI, Nvidia... > When it detect an Nvidia GFX card, it need to use the restricted non-free > driver and not the nv driver. > > How can it be done? > > -- > Léa Gris > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jlwallen at monkeypantz.net Mon Jul 7 12:43:52 2008 From: jlwallen at monkeypantz.net (jack wallen) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:43:52 -0400 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48720F88.7040400@monkeypantz.net> Juan Kawada wrote: > I have two problems, is there a way to sync an ipod with amarok? I > don't mean just transfer songs, but I mean sync as in, it'll delete > songs on my ipod that aren't in my library, and add ones that are. > I've googled this one, but I can't find anything, meaning it's either > really obvious or there is no way to do it. I have a first > generation video ipod. > > Also, I installed kubuntu for my friend, and it doesn't want to > recognize his ipod touch, it thinks that it's a camera. Anyone know > how to fix that? with amarok it is as simple as dragging music to the device (from the collection window) and then hitting transfer. there is no actual "sync" with amarok. and you can delete songs from the device by right clicking the song and then selecting delete. as far as the Touch is concerned - i do not believe they are supported *yet*. give the developers time though. -- _____________ /\__/\ / Omea Mona! \ ( `v' ) < jack wallen > ( ) \_____________/ | | | (___)__) www.monkeypantz.net From chief at porterfire.org Mon Jul 7 14:46:14 2008 From: chief at porterfire.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:46:14 -0400 Subject: Strigi In-Reply-To: <200807051022.47089.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> References: <200807041546.11756.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> <200807051022.47089.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <200807071046.15160.lists@ptfd.org> On Saturday 05 July 2008 09:22:46 Pablo El Feo wrote: > > Besides that shouting, did you file a bug for it? I agree it's not > > usable for the moment, but the website states it's still in unstable > > mode (as is the whole 4.1b2), so let's at least do something helpful! > > You are right, I sorry... I did a lot of souting, but I'm really > frustrated. And disappointed... not with strigi itself, strigi (I guess) > does it's job, it indexes... I thing I was expecting something more mature, > strigi stuff versions are about 0.5 while beagle id 0.3 and it really is > easier on the user. And, I always thought of Kubuntu as a distro that take > very serious the user experience... and I thought that if they have strigi > in their standard distribution it should be something useful, and easy to > use and setup. I also don't know I I'm doing something wrong... most > programs are very configurable, at least more than they seem. So I was > hoping there was something I could do to improve my search results. > The bug report... well... I've seen very strange bug reports (like a wine > bug that states that people still prefere to use the original Windows > API)... Can general frustration and disappointment be reported as a bug? Alittle off, but what happened to porting Googledesktop to kde4? I switchewd to it in 3.5.9 and loved it, fast and found everything fast. Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Chief Porter Fire Department Powered by Kubunty Hardy 8.04, KDE-4.1 beta http://kubuntu.org From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 14:56:03 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:56:03 +0200 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807071656.03951.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Monday 07 July 2008 07:27:18 Juan Kawada wrote: > I have two problems, is there a way to sync an ipod with amarok? I don't > mean just transfer songs, but I mean sync as in, it'll delete songs on my > ipod that aren't in my library, and add ones that are. I use amarok and I'm quite happy with it although, as Jack said, there's no real way to sync. If you want syncing, have a look at gtkpod in the repos (http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html for info). It might work but it's for gnome and will probably require extra libs. -- lanzen From stan10x10 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 15:04:45 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:04:45 -0400 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> <486F6870.7070900@mail.ee> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0807070804u4f4457d7w45069a9cbe7b9974@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Juan Kawada wrote: > So I guess most video cards work with linux now? Anyone had any horror > stories with cards not working? > > Maybe most of the problems with video drivers in linux are in the past. > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > >> > the opensource Ati stuff is still very beta >> >> I installed at 22th June 2008 ATI drivers from its web page and got it >> working! >> >> Current tutorial is about uninstalling Ubuntu ATI drivers and install >> ATI-AMD driver from its webpage. >> >> Some links >> ********** >> tutorial: >> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide >> >> main driver page: >> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html >> >> exact URL for driver download >> >> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run >> >> Used distro: Estobuntu 8.01 stable (based on Kubuntu 7.10) - >> http://estobuntu.org/estobuntu-english >> >> I apologize - some messages are in Estonian language due to localized >> Ubuntu distro. >> >> 1) Build package >> ***************** >> $ sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy >> Created directory fglrx-install.pU6710 >> Verifying archive integrity... All good. >> Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.501....... >> ================================================== >> ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager >> ================================================== >> Generating package: Ubuntu/gutsy >> Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb >> has been successfully >> generated >> Package >> /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has >> been successfully >> generated >> Package >> /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has been >> successfully >> generated >> Package /home/kasutaja/tarkvara/fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb has >> been successfully generated >> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.pU6710 >> >> >> >> 2) Modify file >> *************** >> $ sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common >> >> DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx" >> >> Save file with F3 and exit with F2 from nano. >> >> If you have the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted then uncomment >> there "fglrx" to get ATI >> proprietary drivers to work >> >> 3) Install prepared packages >> **************************** >> >> $ sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx*.deb fglrx-kernel-source*.deb >> fglrx-amdcccle*.deb >> Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx valimine. >> (Andmebaasi lugemine ... hetkel on paigaldatud 102569 faili ja kataloogi.) >> Paki xorg-driver-fglrx lahtipakkimine (failist >> xorg-driver-fglrx_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... >> Varem valimata paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev valimine. >> Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev lahtipakkimine (failist >> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... >> Varem valimata paki fglrx-kernel-source valimine. >> Paki fglrx-kernel-source lahtipakkimine (failist >> fglrx-kernel-source_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... >> Varem valimata paki fglrx-amdcccle valimine. >> Paki fglrx-amdcccle lahtipakkimine (failist >> fglrx-amdcccle_8.501-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... >> Paki xorg-driver-fglrx (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... >> * Starting atieventsd >> [ OK ] >> >> Paki xorg-driver-fglrx-dev (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... >> Paki fglrx-kernel-source (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... >> Adding Module to DKMS build system >> Doing initial module build >> Installing initial module >> Warning! Cannot do version sanity checking because multiple fglrx.ko >> modules were found in kernel 2.6.22-15-generic. >> Done. >> >> Paki fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.501-0ubuntu1) paikasättimine ... >> >> If there remains dependencies, fix them: >> sudo apt-get install -f >> >> Then correct the system: >> sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean >> >> >> 4) Modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> **************************** >> >> Section "Device" >> ... >> Option "VideoOverlay" "on" >> Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" >> Driver "fglrx" >> ... >> EndSection >> ...... >> Section "device" # >> ... >> Driver "fglrx" >> Option "VideoOverlay" "on" >> Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" >> ... >> EndSection >> >> Section "DRI" >> Mode 0666 >> EndSection >> Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "AIGLX" "off" >> EndSection >> >> Now restart the system! >> >> 5) Check >> ******** >> >> $ fglrxinfo >> display: :0.0 screen: 0 >> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. >> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series >> OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release >> >> $ glxgears >> 8059 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1611,728 FPS >> 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,617 FPS >> 8049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,650 FPS >> 8048 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1609,492 FPS >> >> So, it works like a charm! >> >> 6) Some pictures about new ATI Catalyst Center: >> >> http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/ati_catalyst_control_center >> >> 7) Compiled driver packages are available here: >> >> http://arvutiring.rvg.edu.ee/lisad/linux/ATI-AMD_driver/ATI-AMD_8-6/valmistatud_pakid_22-06-2008 >> >> 8) Another error - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/211318 - this >> is also in Kubuntu 7.10 >> To fix it, open /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh and instead of: >> >> XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A$1* >> >> write: >> >> XDM_AUTH_MASK=/var/run/xauth/A$1* >> >> >> Best Regards, >> Edmund >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I am unable to get evga (nvidia) 7900gs to work on install of Kubuntu this or last version. Nor will run disks of the new Susi or Knoppx work. I have decided to reinstall my old 6200 card which would work in past then try various run disks. If they or at least one works I will do new install with 6200, download nvidia drivers and try swaping out with the 7900. If any one can suggest an elegant course of action please do so. uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.j35 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 16:04:24 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:04:24 -0500 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0807070804u4f4457d7w45069a9cbe7b9974@mail.gmail.com> References: <486B0CB8.3010203@att.net> <486C724B.4050600@gmail.com> <347f0cf50807042238s577c02e2pa9682e002cdec3c3@mail.gmail.com> <486F6870.7070900@mail.ee> <69c7ddfb0807070804u4f4457d7w45069a9cbe7b9974@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have an nvidia 6150go in an hp laptop and the 169 series driver will corrupt the display after a wake up from sleep and none of the ttys (ctrl alt f1) will function. It was fixed in the 173 series but I do not want to manually install the driver, I am going to wait for the restricted modules. The 169 series works fine on my 8400gs on the desktop machine though. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From spwhite at freesurf.ch Mon Jul 7 16:20:32 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:20:32 +0200 Subject: startup script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807071820.33267.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Sunday 06 July 2008 20:07, Jim Douglas wrote: > I installed a firewall and want to make sure it starts up in the right > place on reboot. > > These are the instructions I am getting from the Firewall Builder site, > they have nothing for Kubuntu... > > >                   The universal method is to put generated script in >                   /etc or /etc/firewall directory and add a line at >                   the bottom of script >                   /etc/rc.d/rc.local (Mandrake and >                   RedHat) or /etc/init.d/boot.local >                   (SuSE) like this: > >   /etc/firewall/firewall.fw I don't know your version and if there is any change. On my Feisty I don't have /etc/rc.d/ but only rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d... in /etc/ /etc/rc0.d/README says: > > The scripts in this directory are executed once when entering > > runlevel 0. > > > > The scripts are all symbolic links whose targets are located in > > /etc/init.d/ . > > > > Generally it is not necessary to alter the scripts in this directory. > > Their purpose is to stop all services and to make the system ready > > for shutdown. > > > > For a more information see /etc/init.d/README. > > HTH Perry -- BOFH excuse #30: positron router malfunction From valtermura at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 17:38:17 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:38:17 +0200 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <487151C1.5040106@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807071938.17441.valtermura@gmail.com> Il lunedì 7 luglio 2008 07:19:40 Juan Kawada ha scritto: > I would definitely sign if you got this up and running, and I'd also try to > get my friends to sign. > --cut-- > > > > > wrote: --cut-- > > > > Already, I have always asked companies when I can to have Linux support > > and I only purchase computer equipment from companies that support > > Linux. These are the two most important ways to get companies to change > > and I am willing to help out as I can. > > thank you for your replies, you encourage me to start planning the petition, I'll post it here as ready. Regards, -- Valter Gnupgp ID: 0xD7274715 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 17:44:39 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:44:39 +0300 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880dece00807071044u5c4fa9c6j701b3c14dc135050@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/2 Juan Kawada : > Ok, so with linux a lot of people seem to have problems with video cards, > and their drivers. I'm just wondering, what cards have you used and what was > the overall experiance with them? Were you using the proprietary drivers, or > the opensource versions? > > Right now I'm using an ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro. Everything works well enough > with only some minor problems. First, when I boot up my computer the screen > resolution is never correct, but krandrtray fixes that easily enough. > Another problem was that the free Alsa driver that was used automatically > with my install didn't support 3D, and so I had to enable the proprietary to > get compiz, and to play games. Overall though, I can't complain. > > I'm just looking to gain some knowlage about different cards here, for other > people I know who are curious, and for when I decide to upgrade my own > card. So please no flame wars about propriety vs open drivers (which always > seems to happen in other discussions on this topic). > My 1.5 year old Dell Inspiron laptop came with the ATI x1400 video card. At the time, I had major headaches with the card and anything video related: screen resolution, Beryl, Google Earth, etc. Now that ATI is Linux-friendly, I can run Google Earth with Compiz-Fusion, and all at the native 1680x1050 resolution. It is _fast_. It also installed on Kubuntu 8.04 with no problems: I just put the install disc in and it worked. I say to go with either Intel or ATI graphics. And when you are in the store, make sure that you tell the salesman that you are buying ATI / Intel for their Linux support. Let them hear the L word a few times and it will sink in that people are using Linux. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 17:47:27 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:47:27 +0300 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807071047j721e418bm8ccf48810b3c33c2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/6 Valter Mura : > Hi All, > > as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware (I > mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" > or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to open a > signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. > The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world (such > as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more will > be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the > products. > I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, they will > be compelled to listen to us, one day. > I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database (very > good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will buy > works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. > The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products to > come starting from now on. > > So, I ask to you if you like the idea and agree, if there is still a similar > projects (if so, where?), and, in case the project should start, to spread in > all Linux mailing lists you know all around the world. > > Obviously, I will submit the petition to you all before starting the petition. > > (Sorry for my poor English, I hope you understood my words) > I already have a project in the works, with the contact addresses of most major hardware manufactures and software houses. The domain name is already registered, I'm just stuck with university work before I can move forward. If you want to help then contact me off list. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From karlok at fastmail.fm Mon Jul 7 17:49:30 2008 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:49:30 -0700 Subject: startup script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4872572A.6040604@fastmail.fm> Jim Douglas wrote: > I installed a firewall and want to make sure it starts up in the right > place on reboot. > > These are the instructions I am getting from the Firewall Builder site, > they have nothing for Kubuntu... > > The universal method is to put generated script in /etc or /etc/firewall > directory and add a line at the bottom of script */etc/rc.d/rc.local* > (Mandrake and RedHat) or */etc/init.d/boot.local* (SuSE) like this: > > /etc/firewall/firewall.fw > > This way, firewall script runs when machine executes > boot-time scripts. The name of the file is the same > as the name of the firewall object in Firewall > Builder GUI, with extension ".fw". So, if > firewall object name is *guardian*, then > fwbuilder puts generated policy in the file > *guardian.fw*. > > > What is the most secure process to start up at boot time? > > > Thanks, > Jim > You could put the line to run the script in /etc/rc.local. This is the default rc.local: #!/bin/sh -e # # rc.local # # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other # value on error. # # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution # bits. # # By default this script does nothing. exit 0 Karl From jdz99 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 7 17:53:55 2008 From: jdz99 at hotmail.com (Jim Douglas) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:53:55 +0000 Subject: startup script In-Reply-To: <4872572A.6040604@fastmail.fm> References: <4872572A.6040604@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:49:30 -0700 > From: karlok at fastmail.fm > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: startup script > > Jim Douglas wrote: > > I installed a firewall and want to make sure it starts up in the right > > place on reboot. > > > > These are the instructions I am getting from the Firewall Builder site, > > they have nothing for Kubuntu... > > > > The universal method is to put generated script in /etc or /etc/firewall > > directory and add a line at the bottom of script */etc/rc.d/rc.local* > > (Mandrake and RedHat) or */etc/init.d/boot.local* (SuSE) like this: > > > > /etc/firewall/firewall.fw > > > > This way, firewall script runs when machine executes > > boot-time scripts. The name of the file is the same > > as the name of the firewall object in Firewall > > Builder GUI, with extension ".fw". So, if > > firewall object name is *guardian*, then > > fwbuilder puts generated policy in the file > > *guardian.fw*. > > > > > > What is the most secure process to start up at boot time? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > You could put the line to run the script in /etc/rc.local. This is the > default rc.local: > > #!/bin/sh -e > # > # rc.local > # > # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. > # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other > # value on error. > # > # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution > # bits. > # > # By default this script does nothing. > > exit 0 > > Karl > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I was going to put it in ther but, I want to be sure the Firewall starts at the right time, I remember reading somewhere that if it doesn't the Firewall won't be aa secure.. Thanks, Jim _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_072008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jul 7 17:57:27 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:57:27 -0400 Subject: Services In-Reply-To: <486EBCDE.8080101@gmail.com> References: <164903.35828.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <486E56A3.8000304@gmail.com> <486EBCDE.8080101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807071357.27442.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 04 July 2008, D. R. Evans wrote: > Response to bug #245596: > > ---- > > Thank you for taking time to file this bug and help us make Ubuntu > better. Can you ask some of the other users you mentioned to confirm > this bug? > > ---- > > Can some of the others here please confirm the problem at > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/245596, so that they know it's not just me? Just added a comment to this. Seems to be due to placement of some PID files within directories off /var/run instead of within /var/run itself. From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 18:17:35 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:17:35 -0600 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <880dece00807071044u5c4fa9c6j701b3c14dc135050@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807071044u5c4fa9c6j701b3c14dc135050@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: sounds good, just that I get everything computer related from http://newegg.com (just bought an lcd monitor with free 3 day shipping, and have had such a good experience with the site I don't mind advertising it here), so I'll be sure to leave a review mentioning linux next time I buy. so from the stories I hear, ATI used to be terrible with linux, it's now much better, and It's Nvidia who's currently lagging behind. > > My 1.5 year old Dell Inspiron laptop came with the ATI x1400 video > card. At the time, I had major headaches with the card and anything > video related: screen resolution, Beryl, Google Earth, etc. Now that > ATI is Linux-friendly, I can run Google Earth with Compiz-Fusion, and > all at the native 1680x1050 resolution. It is _fast_. It also > installed on Kubuntu 8.04 with no problems: I just put the install > disc in and it worked. > > I say to go with either Intel or ATI graphics. And when you are in the > store, make sure that you tell the salesman that you are buying ATI / > Intel for their Linux support. Let them hear the L word a few times > and it will sink in that people are using Linux. > > Dotan Cohen > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 18:37:40 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:37:40 -0600 Subject: Kaffeine Bug #210303 or #213274 In-Reply-To: <200806300625.18070.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <200806300625.18070.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: I got the same bug for the first time last night. It was with a WMV file, but the strange thing is, I've played WMV files before with no problem. A fix would be appreciated. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Larry Hartman wrote: > Kubuntu Users: > > I want to bring your attention to the above bug numbers on launchpad which > affects ability to play some DVDs and some MS Windows generated video files > in Kaffeine. The issue has to do with XINE trying to install proprietary > codecs which are already installed and as a result generating an endless > loop. The loop is exited when Kaffeine is closed. > > The bug is quite annoying for people who are making the switch from MS to > Kubuntu, which results in some very negative first impressions for Kubuntu > and KDE from these new users. > > If you have any hacking experience with Kaffeine and Xine please take a > look > at this bug in Launchpad. Someone feel free to copy this email to the > developers list. > > > Larry > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 18:54:32 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:54:32 -0600 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: Though I haven't tried it for myself, I've heard that it's easy to get kubuntu onto an eee, and to keep it running as long as you know what your doing. Probably even if you don't. Sorry, I don't mean to take this thread off topic (more than it is already), but "I breathe 'a lot'. But I probably don't breathe any more than the average KDE user" made me laugh. maybe even sig worthy ; ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.j35 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 19:19:20 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:19:20 -0500 Subject: USB Bluetooth Adapter Mac Address Message-ID: Not sure which list to ask on, but here goes. I have two laptops and just purchased 2 usb bluetooth dongles, I would like to set the mac address of the adapters so that I can see both in the push function of our phones. Basically it assigns a mac address of 11:11:11:11:11:11 to the adapter on each laptop and when I want to push something the list of familiar devices changes and I have to rediscover each laptop after a transfer. I would like to set the mac on one laptop to the 11: set and the other to say 22: or something so that both devices are visible at the same time, is this even possible. Thanks for any assistance, it is greatly appreciated. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 7 20:46:24 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:46:24 -0400 Subject: WLAN in HH 8.04 Message-ID: <487280A0.5000904@cfl.rr.com> I am wondering how Hardy Heron 8.04 (HH 8.04) can load the proprietary drivers for a wireless card, then not see the card. "lshw" and "lspci" do not even show the equipment on two different computers that previous versions of Kubuntu did. The WLAN equipment just doesn't exist, period. I have a home constructed computer that I have run FF and GG on with no problem other than the fact that I could not get the WLAN to actually connect to my Linksys router, even though it did see it and I entered the MAC for filtering. However, with HH 8.04, the equipment does not apparently exist as stated above. I got a notebook, ASUS Eee 900, and it has a wireless card and loaded the proprietary drivers on initial load. On bootup, it does not even see the wireless equipment. To use the wireless, I have to boot into the Xandros distro that comes on the drive (20GB SSD). That is like getting a lobotomy! Apologies to Xandros fans, I am sure that the full Xandros it not as crippled as ASUS' version. Imagine a computer that will not allow you to add programs, except for what is in the extremely limited repository ASUS has setup. Imagine, OOo (Open Office) at 2.0 version. Imagine, Web is actually Firefox. Imagine, Mail is Thunderbird. Even OOo is shown by other names for each segment. Imagine having to search long and hard for the program and the menu where "terminal console" is listed. I could really use some help getting HH 8.04 to recognize WLAN equipment. Thank you! From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 8 00:21:24 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:21:24 -0300 Subject: WLAN in HH 8.04 References: <487280A0.5000904@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <3865564.LJgV6Gjmlp@cedar.serverforest.com> Tom Bell wrote: > I am wondering how Hardy Heron 8.04 (HH 8.04) can load the proprietary > drivers for a wireless card, then not see the card. "lshw" and "lspci" > do not even show the equipment on two different computers that previous > versions of Kubuntu did. The WLAN equipment just doesn't exist, period. If lshw, lsusb and lspci can't see a card, then it doesn't exist - never mind whether the drivers are loaded. So that's not terribly surprising. > I got a notebook, ASUS Eee 900, and it has a wireless card and loaded > the proprietary drivers on initial load. On bootup, it does not even > see the wireless equipment. To use the wireless, I have to boot into > the Xandros distro that comes on the drive (20GB SSD). That is like > getting a lobotomy! Apologies to Xandros fans, I am sure that the full > Xandros it not as crippled as ASUS' version. > Imagine a computer that will not allow you to add programs, except for > what is in the extremely limited repository ASUS has setup. So add repositories! It's a Debian-based system. You _should_ be able to actually add Ubuntu repositories and do an "aptitude full-upgrade". It's liable to involve many hours of manually fixing conflicts, but that's how I first got from Debian to Ubuntu... > I could really use some help getting HH 8.04 to recognize WLAN equipment. Then you should try giving us some real information. How can you expect us to diagnose a problem without even knowing what the wifi hardware is, let alone what you think the drivers should be? -- derek From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 04:21:44 2008 From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 Subject: Windoze boot corrupted? Message-ID: <3288dd4d0807072121w1e03f227vcc678ed09a45a1e3@mail.gmail.com> During one of the recent kernel upgrades I lost the ability to boot up in Windoze. The error message is Error 11: Unrecognized device string. I don't know if this is relevant but once I am booted up the Windoze drive is mounted at /media/sda1. Apparently we are no longer using LILO. What is the boot loader and what and where is the conf file for it? Thanks :-) -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, BMWMOA, AMA, ARRL WB8DXX(A) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Jul 8 04:43:47 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:43:47 +0200 Subject: Windoze boot corrupted? In-Reply-To: <3288dd4d0807072121w1e03f227vcc678ed09a45a1e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3288dd4d0807072121w1e03f227vcc678ed09a45a1e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807080643.47765.kassube@gmx.net> Patricia Wilson wrote: > Apparently we are no longer using LILO. What is the boot loader and > what and where is the conf file for it? The boot loader is GRUB and the config file is "/boot/grub/menu.lst". Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Jul 8 04:51:41 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:51:41 -0500 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00807071044u5c4fa9c6j701b3c14dc135050@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4872F25D.5050605@swbell.net> Most of my computers seem to have ATI video cards. Not by my personal choice just what came with the computer when I bought it. I will admit up front that I don't use all the fancy stuff that most seem to. Just basic settings. When I was running OpenSuSE Linux I added the ATI SuSE repository to my list. It kept the computer updated with the latest ATI drivers and always seemed to work out great. Since my switch to Kubuntu I haven't looked to see if they have a special repo for Ubuntu/Debian drivers. What gets installed and updated through the usual repo's seems to work just fine. I've never had any major issue with an ATI video setup. -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Jul 8 08:16:08 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:16:08 +0300 Subject: WLAN in HH 8.04 In-Reply-To: <487280A0.5000904@cfl.rr.com> References: <487280A0.5000904@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <48732248.3090803@mail.ee> > I got a notebook, ASUS Eee 900, and it has a wireless card and loaded > the proprietary drivers on initial load. On bootup, it does not even > see the wireless equipment. Perhaps this could help you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC There is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes#Wireless for getting work WiFi card. There is also custom version of Xubuntu - http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home - which contains all necessary drivers. You can give a try and feedback to us about your success :) Best Regards, Edmund From suse-linux at rwz.de Tue Jul 8 08:20:17 2008 From: suse-linux at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:20:17 +0200 Subject: UMTS with DELL D620 integrated UMTS-Card Message-ID: <20080708102017.be44de10.suse-linux@rwz.de> Hi list, I've runnuing kubuntu 8.04.1 on my Dell D620 Notebook. Works VERY fine - but how can I install/configure my integrated UMTS-Card ? Is there any good howto downloadable in the web ? Or does someone already activated his umts-card-driver on linux ? -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 12:09:32 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:09:32 +0400 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> Larry Alkoff пишет: > There is an excellent tutorial at > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 by reassuringlyoffensive > showing how to fix a wandering touchpad on a Dell that uses Ubuntu. > > Unfortunately I use Kbuntu Hardy Heron. > > The tutorial has the instruction to > edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which I have done) > and then > navigate to System > Preferences > Sessions > and click on "Add". > Name it something like "Touchpad Syndaemon", the > description can be "Disables touchpad while typing", > and the all important command you need is "syndaemon -i 1 -d -t -K". > > There is no "System > Preferences > Sessions" in Kubuntu. > > What does it do and how can I do the same thing in Kubuntu? > > Larry i prefer the following script to be executed on Ctrl+Scroll Lock. It switches touchpad on/off. #!/bin/bash current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then synclient TouchpadOff=1; else synclient TouchpadOff=0; #EOF From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 8 12:54:24 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:54:24 -0300 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> Alexander Smirnov wrote: > #!/bin/bash > > current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` > > if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then > synclient TouchpadOff=1; > else > synclient TouchpadOff=0; > There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 13:07:42 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:07:42 +0200 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807081507.42955.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) If you think of the newlines as \n then it *is* all one line :D \d From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:00:13 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:00:13 -0600 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: <200807071656.03951.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200807071656.03951.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: ok i'll test that out. I'm just cleaning out my music library, so i'll only need to be able to sync temporarily, otherwise syncing just annoys me. also, and I may just have to start another thread for this because it's more of an all around USB problem than with my ipod, but After I hit safely disconnect on my ipod, it still has the big "Do Not Disconnect" on the screen. basically I have to turn off the computer if I want to be able to take it out safely. This is the case With all my usb devices, because a light always stays on, or something similar. Anyone else had this problem? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From AmbergerTh at yahoo.de Tue Jul 8 14:00:48 2008 From: AmbergerTh at yahoo.de (Thomas Amberger) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:00:48 +0200 Subject: Open big files in editor Kate Message-ID: <200807081600.49745.AmbergerTh@yahoo.de> Hello, i tryed to open a logfile with 1,8 MB in Kate. Its not possible to work with Kate, its too slow. (KWrite is the same). Can i adjust Kate, to work normal with greater files? Kedit, Emacs and also OpenOffice works better with these files. Greetings Thomas From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:01:52 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:01:52 -0600 Subject: Video Cards on linux In-Reply-To: <4872F25D.5050605@swbell.net> References: <880dece00807071044u5c4fa9c6j701b3c14dc135050@mail.gmail.com> <4872F25D.5050605@swbell.net> Message-ID: Well thanks for all the input everyone. On 7/7/08, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > I've never had any major issue with an ATI video setup. > > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone else had this problem? do you mean the ipod says do not disconnect? if that's the case, unplug it anyway. i did it all the time and never had a problem. as long as it's unmounted you shouldn't have any problems. of course you'll want to make SURE it's unmounted. of course with iPods everything is a bit flaky. that's why i stopped using them. well that and mine has the old Raid Bug issue so it randomly won't mount or unmount. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- jack wallen, jr sooooooooo yeah monkeypantz.net From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:22:44 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:22:44 +0200 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: References: <200807071656.03951.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Tuesday, 08 July 2008 16:00:13 Juan Kawada wrote: > ok i'll test that out. I'm just cleaning out my music library, so i'll only > need to be able to sync temporarily, otherwise syncing just annoys me. I dunno exactly what you need, but if you want to sync one directory (and it's children) with another one then have a look at rsync. It's a command-line tool that does very cool stuff. Example: rsync -vurt --delete --progress yourmaincollection/ youripod That will copy everything that's not already in youripod from yourmaincollection and will also remove from youripod that which is not in yourmaincollection. -vurt means 1)-v verbose 2)-u skip files that are newer on the target (youripod) 3)-r recurse all directories 4)-t copy timestamps --delete removes files on youripod that are not in yourmaincollection --progress tells you what it's doing Check the man page: man rsync > more of an all around USB problem than with my ipod, but After I hit safely > disconnect on my ipod, it still has the big "Do Not Disconnect" on the > screen. basically I have to turn off the computer if I want to be able to > take it out safely. I have found that doing a 'lazy' unmount works quite well. (On my usb stuff, I don't have an ipod) 1) Basically find out what /dev your usb is mounted on, type: mount Then read the text and identify your ipod. 2) Then make sure all windows and so forth onto that drive are closed. 3) Then do: umount -l /dev/blah Where /dev/blah is your ipod. You may have to sudo that command. hth \d From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:29:45 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:29:45 -0600 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200807071656.03951.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Don, I'm going to have to try that all out when I get home from work (in about 12 hours : / ) But yeah that sounds like a tool I can use, thanks again! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would rather not put 6300 back in if it can be avoided. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:54:33 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:54:33 -0600 Subject: nvidia install problem In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0806231737j5e506514ieb9572bd0fdc10dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0806231737j5e506514ieb9572bd0fdc10dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This happened to me back when I was using onboard nvidia graphics. I reconfigured xorg. It was quite a task with no clear display though. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:37 PM, uriah heep wrote: > I am having a problem loading hardy. Kubuntu (7) ran fine but I installed > an Nvidia 9700 video card in place of a 6300 and when I try to boot into a > new hardy install the monitor screen is full of jagged meaningless forms. > Is there an alternative method of install or some other method to get the OS > to run. Would rather not put 6300 back in if it can be avoided. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.j35 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 15:04:41 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:04:41 -0500 Subject: nvidia install problem In-Reply-To: References: <69c7ddfb0806231737j5e506514ieb9572bd0fdc10dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Juan Kawada wrote: > This happened to me back when I was using onboard nvidia graphics. I > reconfigured xorg. It was quite a task with no clear display though. > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:37 PM, uriah heep wrote: >> >> I am having a problem loading hardy. Kubuntu (7) ran fine but I installed >> an Nvidia 9700 video card in place of a 6300 and when I try to boot into a >> new hardy install the monitor screen is full of jagged meaningless forms. >> Is there an alternative method of install or some other method to get the OS >> to run. Would rather not put 6300 back in if it can be avoided. >> Maybe look for an option at boot time to specify vesa as the driver and see if you can get a working xorg.conf that way. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Tue Jul 8 15:59:03 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:59:03 -0300 Subject: Speech recognition In-Reply-To: <880dece00807050718i3a79dd42ic351be5e001552fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807030025.07586.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <486F70DD.2020000@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050718i3a79dd42ic351be5e001552fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807081259.03394.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> > > The video on the Nuance website states that DNS works with any > Windows-based program. They show usage of the program only with MS > products, though, such as Word, IE, and OE. > > Dotan Cohen > Probably this video can show the use of speech recognition in an average environment. At least my experience was similar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ0CytAsec It's kind of a joke, he isn't helping the program at all but, it can get that frustrating. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 16:50:54 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:50:54 +0200 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807081850.54494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 16:22:44 Donn wrote: > rsync -vurt --delete --progress yourmaincollection/ youripod rsync, yeah, that's beauty! But I don't think it will work on iPod because of the way it behaves and ipod database. In fact libgpod is a must! I might be wrong, of course, but that's a good idea and it should work nicely on other players like zen nano or similar. -- lanzen From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 8 17:02:49 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:02:49 -0400 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: <200807081850.54494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807081850.54494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807081302.56738.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 12:50:54 pm lanzen wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2008 16:22:44 Donn wrote: > > rsync -vurt --delete --progress yourmaincollection/ youripod > > rsync, yeah, that's beauty! But I don't think it will work on iPod because > of the way it behaves and ipod database. In fact libgpod is a must! > I might be wrong, of course, but that's a good idea and it should work > nicely on other players like zen nano or similar. > > -- > lanzen lanzen is right. rsync won't work as the ipod uses a database and not the file system alone. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Tue Jul 8 17:05:33 2008 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:05:33 +0100 Subject: Ipod Troubles In-Reply-To: <200807081850.54494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200807081622.45606.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807081850.54494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48739E5D.3090104@ronnietucker.co.uk> lanzen wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2008 16:22:44 Donn wrote: > rsync, yeah, that's beauty! But I don't think it will work on iPod because of > the way it behaves and ipod database. In fact libgpod is a must! > I might be wrong, of course, but that's a good idea and it should work nicely > on other players like zen nano or similar. > One thing I had trouble with (using KDE 4.1 and an iPod Classic) was album art, but it was a libgpod thing. After some tinkering I noticed in my Adept that /libgpod3-nogtk/ was installed (by default I think), when I looked at the description for the library I noticed: /This version does not include artwork support/ So I uninstalled it and installed the /libgpod3/ library. All good. Oh, and after you've transferred your files and clicked Disconnect (in Amarok), with me it pops up with a window saying it didn't disconnect properly, but it does. I unhook by iPod and it's fine. -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk MSN: ronnietucker at hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Jul 8 18:24:34 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:24:34 +0300 Subject: OT: Extract info from a text file Message-ID: <4873B0E2.6060902@rmk.co.il> I'm trying to help a friend sort out his mailing list :-( He's given me a [messy] csv file which I saved as a text file. It contains all his contacts - names, addresses, email addresses etc. I want to extract just the email addresses. Is there a simple script to extract just the email addresses? I tried using google but the results are a bit vague. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Jul 8 18:30:38 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:30:38 -0400 Subject: OT: Extract info from a text file In-Reply-To: <4873B0E2.6060902@rmk.co.il> References: <4873B0E2.6060902@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200807081430.38212.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I'm trying to help a friend sort out his mailing list :-( > > He's given me a [messy] csv file which I saved as a text file. > It contains all his contacts - names, addresses, email addresses etc. > I want to extract just the email addresses. > > Is there a simple script to extract just the email addresses? > I tried using google but the results are a bit vague. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Have you tried OpenOffice? Import the file. Copy the email address column to a new spreadsheet. Write it out as a txt file or csv or whatever. From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Jul 8 18:54:45 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:54:45 +0300 Subject: OT: Extract info from a text file In-Reply-To: <200807081430.38212.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4873B0E2.6060902@rmk.co.il> <200807081430.38212.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4873B7F5.20200@rmk.co.il> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I'm trying to help a friend sort out his mailing list :-( >> >> He's given me a [messy] csv file which I saved as a text file. >> It contains all his contacts - names, addresses, email addresses etc. >> I want to extract just the email addresses. >> >> Is there a simple script to extract just the email addresses? >> I tried using google but the results are a bit vague. >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > Have you tried OpenOffice? > > Import the file. > > Copy the email address column to a new spreadsheet. > > Write it out as a txt file or csv or whatever. > That was a piece of cake! :-) I even then used [highlight column] Data > Sort to get them all in alphabetical order! Thank you lots.... Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 20:11:03 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:11:03 -0600 Subject: AV capture In-Reply-To: <200807031706.29389.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <20080703082704.B158E408A6F@xpresso.com> <200807031706.29389.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: Now i've never tried this with youtube (and cant right now as I'm at work) but in FF3 if you -left click the icon on the left of the address bar -click more information -click on the media tab you should be able to download any media (pictures videos etc) on the page. No extensions needed. try it out if you have the time. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Art Alexion wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008 4:27:04 am Bill Vance wrote: > > Is there any way to capture audio/video from youtube or similar sources? > > I used to like Firefox plugin UnPlug; now I prefer the plugin > DownloadHelper. > > > > How about adjusting the audio level on these? > > FFMPEG > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Jul 8 20:55:30 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:55:30 -0400 Subject: FF-3 and mailto Message-ID: <200807081655.30983.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Anyone have mailto working with FireFox 3 yet? I have done all of the about:config stuff of naming an app of kmail, but of course none of the old FF-2 config stuff works anyone. I've searched the web and searched the forums on the FF-3 site and everyone seems to have the problem and no solutions. This is pretty ridiculous for the product having been out so long. So far my only solution is to go back to FF-2. (yet not many here have complained about this issue. Maybe it's just me) From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Jul 8 21:11:20 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:11:20 -0500 Subject: FF-3 and mailto In-Reply-To: <200807081655.30983.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200807081655.30983.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4873D7F8.90703@swbell.net> Bruce Marshall wrote: > Anyone have mailto working with FireFox 3 yet? > > I have done all of the about:config stuff of naming an app of kmail, but of > course none of the old FF-2 config stuff works anyone. > > I've searched the web and searched the forums on the FF-3 site and everyone > seems to have the problem and no solutions. > > This is pretty ridiculous for the product having been out so long. > > So far my only solution is to go back to FF-2. > > (yet not many here have complained about this issue. Maybe it's just me) > > It doesn't work for me either. I just figured it would get fixed sooner or later. It's not a big deal for me. I so seldom use a web page link I can just enter the address in an outgoing e-mail manually -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From john.j35 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 21:39:08 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:39:08 -0500 Subject: mythweb multiple users Message-ID: Hello members! I install mythtv and have it setup, I then installed mythweb and during the installation it asked me if I wanted to secure the mythweb installation, I agreed and supplied my username and password. I can now access the server from any computer in the house. However, my wife cannot unless she specifies my username and password. I added her name to the /etc/mythtv/mythweb-digest along with the necessary password but it will still not allow her to log in. Thanks for any thoughts you might have, they are greatly appreciated. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From john.j35 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 21:39:08 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:39:08 -0500 Subject: mythweb multiple users Message-ID: Hello members! I install mythtv and have it setup, I then installed mythweb and during the installation it asked me if I wanted to secure the mythweb installation, I agreed and supplied my username and password. I can now access the server from any computer in the house. However, my wife cannot unless she specifies my username and password. I added her name to the /etc/mythtv/mythweb-digest along with the necessary password but it will still not allow her to log in. Thanks for any thoughts you might have, they are greatly appreciated. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 22:40:47 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:40:47 -0600 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <486CD33D.2080109@gmail.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <1215089788.23573.1.camel@ultimate-desktop> <486CD33D.2080109@gmail.com> Message-ID: lots of people seem to be having this problem (there is another thread about this in the mailing list too) but that I've seen there is no answer yet. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:25 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 08:55 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> In firefox 3 I clicked on a mailto: link and was told to choose between > >> kmail and yahoo mail. However, clicking in Kmail absolutely nothing > >> happens. Anyone knows why and how to make FF3 call Kmail/Kontact when > >> clicking on mailto: links? > >> > >> btw on Kubuntu 8.04 w updates, > >> > >> Sinclair > > > > Sinclair, have you gone to System/Preferences/Preferred Applications? If > > not, you can set several things there including default email, browser, > etc. > Yes I have and FF is set as browser and Kmail as mail application. This > comes from "inside" Firefox as it suggest Yahoo mail as alternative > (that I NEVER use...) > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.j35 at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 01:56:29 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:56:29 -0500 Subject: mythweb multiple users SOLVED! Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:39 PM, John Pierce wrote: > Hello members! > > I install mythtv and have it setup, I then installed mythweb and > during the installation it asked me if > I wanted to secure the mythweb installation, I agreed and supplied my > username and password. > > I can now access the server from any computer in the house. However, > my wife cannot unless she > specifies my username and password. I added her name to the > /etc/mythtv/mythweb-digest along with > the necessary password but it will still not allow her to log in. > > Thanks for any thoughts you might have, they are greatly appreciated. > SOLVED: Needed to use htdigest to add users. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 06:22:31 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:22:31 +0400 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <48745927.2040708@gmail.com> Derek Broughton пишет: > Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > >> #!/bin/bash >> >> current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` >> >> if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then >> synclient TouchpadOff=1; >> else >> synclient TouchpadOff=0; >> >> > > There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) > not one line, but shorter than previous version :-) #!/bin/bash current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$current)%2)); From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 9 12:24:22 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:24:22 -0300 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> <48745927.2040708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> Alexander Smirnov wrote: > Derek Broughton пишет: >> Alexander Smirnov wrote: >> >> >>> #!/bin/bash >>> >>> current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print >>> $2}'` >>> >>> if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then >>> synclient TouchpadOff=1; >>> else >>> synclient TouchpadOff=0; >>> >>> >> >> There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) >> > not one line, but shorter than previous version :-) > > #!/bin/bash > > current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` > synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$current)%2)); > There you go then: synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'))%2)) (all, of course, on one line) Now, why did I want to do that???? -- derek From mdshaw89 at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:17:08 2008 From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> <48745927.2040708@gmail.com> <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > Derek Broughton пишет: > >> Alexander Smirnov wrote: > >> > >> > >>> #!/bin/bash > >>> > >>> current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print > >>> $2}'` > >>> > >>> if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then > >>> synclient TouchpadOff=1; > >>> else > >>> synclient TouchpadOff=0; > >>> > >>> > >> > >> There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) > >> > > not one line, but shorter than previous version :-) > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print > $2}'` > > synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$current)%2)); > > > > There you go then: > > synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | > awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'))%2)) > > (all, of course, on one line) > > Now, why did I want to do that???? > -- > derek > > I missed the original post, but what is the model type of the Dell. I'm curious because I have an Inspiron 4000 that had a similar problem. l8r, Mike -- Ed: He's worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:16:31 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:16:31 +0200 Subject: Strigi revisited Message-ID: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> After some threads on Strigi I decided to invest some time on trying it out a bit more in depth. For starters: loads of bugs are filed on Strigi and most of them have been mentioned before here, others are not. However my conclusion is: 1. the developer(s) focus entirely on KDE4, KDE3 seems to be "let's leave as it is" 2. look for instructions/manual if you can, I have found nothing. The "wiki" does not exist. Neither any man pages First I just tried to use it as is. Noticeable: 1. Preferences in the form av what folders you want to index can not be changed via the Konqi "gui". Only if you go to HOME/.strigi and edit daemon.conf will they change 2. all gui are odd - the "konqi" one and the qt one give no usable result, meaning I find lots of odd references inside files but can not open them? The applet searches on names and is a bit more useable - after you tweak Strigi a bit 3. It chews up all CPU you have even when the daemon is reported as "idling" I did then try to install Kat (older search engine for KDE) and was told in a very nice installer that x number of "translators" needed to be installed. Did so and then Kat crashed nicely a number of times when I tried to actually use it. I gave up. However - AFTER that Strigi started to build massive indexes and suddenly found x number of file names from the applet (not the Konqi though, still useless results). Conclusion, guess: Strigi needs these translators but does not list them as dependencies or tell you anywhere that you should install them. I got to around 6 Gb of index files and 100% CPU + weird results with using applet (other applets stopped working) before I decided it was/is enough. I will now remove all Strigi packages. It is time to try Kerry/Beagle or Google Desktop. Note: most of these bugs are filed so I dont see the point of re-filing. I think KDE/Kubuntu has taken a very wrong decision here in making Strigi default desktop search. Regards, Sinclair From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:33:44 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:33:44 +0400 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> <48745927.2040708@gmail.com> <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4874BE38.2040205@gmail.com> Derek Broughton пишет: > Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > >> Derek Broughton пишет: >> >>> Alexander Smirnov wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> #!/bin/bash >>>> >>>> current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print >>>> $2}'` >>>> >>>> if [ $current -eq 0 ]; then >>>> synclient TouchpadOff=1; >>>> else >>>> synclient TouchpadOff=0; >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> There _must_ be a way to do that in one line :-) >>> >>> >> not one line, but shorter than previous version :-) >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> current=`synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'` >> synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$current)%2)); >> >> > > There you go then: > > synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | > awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'))%2)) > > (all, of course, on one line) > > Now, why did I want to do that???? > I suggest you to write a C/C++ program that hides all these terrible constructions :-D and you will get what you want - just one executable for switching Touchpad on and off ;-) here is next iteration, which is more shorter: synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$(synclient -l | awk '"TouchpadOff" == $1 {print $3}'))%2)) From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 9 14:00:36 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:00:36 -0300 Subject: fix wandering Dell touchpad in Kubuntu References: <486E9A62.1070802@mindspring.com> <487358FC.4030109@gmail.com> <1596563.qQx0Yzv33Q@cedar.serverforest.com> <48745927.2040708@gmail.com> <2362867.V7xgOhzEV6@cedar.serverforest.com> <4874BE38.2040205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1922937.69QLJfWPmp@cedar.serverforest.com> Alexander Smirnov wrote: > Derek Broughton пишет: >> synclient TouchpadOff=$(((1+$(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | >> awk 'BEGIN{FS="= "}{print $2}'))%2)) >> >> (all, of course, on one line) >> >> Now, why did I want to do that???? >> > I suggest you to write a C/C++ program that hides all these terrible > constructions :-D LOL. I think there was a reason I stopped writing in C++ almost as soon as I started! -- derek From suse-linux at rwz.de Wed Jul 9 14:56:11 2008 From: suse-linux at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:56:11 +0200 Subject: audacious not playing any audiofile Message-ID: <20080709165611.d2e9a62a.suse-linux@rwz.de> Hi list, on my kubuntu 8.04.1 audacious is not playing any audiofile. I've tried to run my mp3s with amarok and it works. Also audacity is playing mp3s. -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From slewin at bmts.com Wed Jul 9 15:28:49 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:28:49 -0400 Subject: Strigi revisited In-Reply-To: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> References: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Note: most of these bugs are filed so I dont see the point of re-filing. > I think KDE/Kubuntu has taken a very wrong decision here in making > Strigi default desktop search. I fully agree with you. One of those bugs is mine and I still have yet to see a developer respond to it; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227280. The largest problem I have with Strigi is the massive amount of HD space it consumes. On a newer system it took up 25GB which caused my laptop not to boot up. A large number of people have responded to my bug and a few people state that Strigi took up over 100GB on their systems. I can't believe something that takes up that much HD space is actually installed by default. I really hope it is not going to be the default in 8.10. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 16:08:05 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:08:05 +0200 Subject: Strigi revisited In-Reply-To: <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> References: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807091808.05784.valtermura@gmail.com> Il mercoledì 9 luglio 2008 17:28:49 Scott ha scritto: > O. Sinclair wrote: > > Note: most of these bugs are filed so I dont see the point of re-filing. > > I think KDE/Kubuntu has taken a very wrong decision here in making > > Strigi default desktop search. > > I fully agree with you. One of those bugs is mine and I still have yet > to see a developer respond to it; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227280. > > The largest problem I have with Strigi is the massive amount of HD space > it consumes. On a newer system it took up 25GB which caused my laptop > not to boot up. A large number of people have responded to my bug and a > few people state that Strigi took up over 100GB on their systems. I > can't believe something that takes up that much HD space is actually > installed by default. I really hope it is not going to be the default > in 8.10. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 My strigi has a clucene folder of 650 MB, but I don't index the files since 5 months ago. I think the worst problem is that there are no help files to give you a hand. -- Valter Gnupgp ID: 0xD7274715 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Wed Jul 9 17:50:54 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:50:54 -0300 Subject: Strigi revisited In-Reply-To: <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> References: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807091450.54788.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> I don't really think it's a bad decision to support striggi. Actually it has many pros... technically. But the results produced are still useless... At least with KDE3. KDE people seems to be integrating a lot with strigi... specially with nepomuk... althow they say it's all search-engine independent and it can be changed. I hope what we have here is a project in (heavy) development. And tune ups can be done. To filter what it's indexed, to compress and/or compact indexes, to better categorize stuff, to better show the search results. I haven't tried KDE4 yet, but I'm looking forward to experience nepomuk... maybe that's what's missing for strigi to succeed in... well... in actually finding something. But, I must say... Kubuntu let me down making it the default for kde3. Regards, Pablo El Wednesday 09 July 2008 12:28:49 Scott escribió: > O. Sinclair wrote: > > Note: most of these bugs are filed so I dont see the point of re-filing. > > I think KDE/Kubuntu has taken a very wrong decision here in making > > Strigi default desktop search. > > I fully agree with you. One of those bugs is mine and I still have yet > to see a developer respond to it; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227280. > > The largest problem I have with Strigi is the massive amount of HD space > it consumes. On a newer system it took up 25GB which caused my laptop > not to boot up. A large number of people have responded to my bug and a > few people state that Strigi took up over 100GB on their systems. I > can't believe something that takes up that much HD space is actually > installed by default. I really hope it is not going to be the default > in 8.10. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Wed Jul 9 18:02:35 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:02:35 -0300 Subject: Strigi revisited In-Reply-To: <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> References: <4874BA2F.7030004@gmail.com> <4874D931.1040007@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807091502.35569.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> I've been looking into Scott's Bug #227280... I'd seem that sgrigi is indexing it's own indexes... so they become larger, and it needs to update the index with the new info, and that makes the index grow, so it has to update again, and... well... you get the point. I already removed strigi from my system and I really don't want to install it again. But, if there's a way to tell it not to index a folder, could someone try to tell it not to index it's indexes... just to see what happens. El Wednesday 09 July 2008 12:28:49 Scott escribió: > O. Sinclair wrote: > > Note: most of these bugs are filed so I dont see the point of re-filing. > > I think KDE/Kubuntu has taken a very wrong decision here in making > > Strigi default desktop search. > > I fully agree with you. One of those bugs is mine and I still have yet > to see a developer respond to it; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227280. > > The largest problem I have with Strigi is the massive amount of HD space > it consumes. On a newer system it took up 25GB which caused my laptop > not to boot up. A large number of people have responded to my bug and a > few people state that Strigi took up over 100GB on their systems. I > can't believe something that takes up that much HD space is actually > installed by default. I really hope it is not going to be the default > in 8.10. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 18:54:29 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:54:29 +0200 Subject: messed up my kicker menubar Message-ID: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> Right, somehow I completely messed up my kicker menubar, the one where active windows are supposed to be showing... this happened while trying something related to Google Desktop. I went to System Settings - Window Behaviour - tab Advanced. Ticked the box "Hide utility windows for inactive applications". Bang - got a crash notice I did not think much about until I left the place in question and found the menu bar showing no apps windows/icons. No matter what I try and change since then it has absolutely no effect whatsoever. Have played around with "dcop kicker kicker restart", no change whatsoever. If I add an extra External Taskbar it nicely shows the apps in that one... same with a KasBar. But I prefer the "running apps" back where I am used to.... Any help appreciated, Sinclair From karlok at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 9 19:11:35 2008 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:11:35 -0700 Subject: messed up my kicker menubar In-Reply-To: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> O. Sinclair wrote: > Right, > somehow I completely messed up my kicker menubar, the one where active > windows are supposed to be showing... this happened while trying > something related to Google Desktop. I went to System Settings - Window > Behaviour - tab Advanced. Ticked the box "Hide utility windows for > inactive applications". > > Bang - got a crash notice I did not think much about until I left the > place in question and found the menu bar showing no apps windows/icons. > > No matter what I try and change since then it has absolutely no effect > whatsoever. Have played around with "dcop kicker kicker restart", no > change whatsoever. If I add an extra External Taskbar it nicely shows > the apps in that one... same with a KasBar. But I prefer the "running > apps" back where I am used to.... > > Any help appreciated, > > Sinclair > Could it be that the taskbar applet got removed from the panel? Karl From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 19:47:14 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:47:14 +0300 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <880dece00807071047j721e418bm8ccf48810b3c33c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <880dece00807071047j721e418bm8ccf48810b3c33c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/7 Dotan Cohen : > 2008/7/6 Valter Mura : > > Hi All, > > > > as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware > (I > > mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" > > or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to > open a > > signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. > > The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world > (such > > as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more > will > > be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the > > products. > > I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, they > will > > be compelled to listen to us, one day. > > I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database > (very > > good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will > buy > > works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. > > The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products > to > > come starting from now on. > > > > So, I ask to you if you like the idea and agree, if there is still a > similar > > projects (if so, where?), and, in case the project should start, to > spread in > > all Linux mailing lists you know all around the world. > > > > Obviously, I will submit the petition to you all before starting the > petition. > > > > (Sorry for my poor English, I hope you understood my words) > > > > I already have a project in the works, with the contact addresses of > most major hardware manufactures and software houses. The domain name > is already registered, I'm just stuck with university work before I > can move forward. If you want to help then contact me off list. > > that's great thing, whenever the project officially starts, i'm down with it. -- Emo Philips - "I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mlsoft at videotron.ca Wed Jul 9 20:21:14 2008 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:21:14 -0400 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807091621.14714.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On Sunday 06 July 2008 12:56:49 Valter Mura wrote: > Hi All, > > as I'm very tired to "fight" against Companies that produce the hardware (I > mean, above all, devices such as printers, scanners, and so on) "almost" > or "exclusively" for Windows and Mac, I thought it could be useful to open a > signature collection for all Linux users, let's say, in the world. > The goal is to make a general petition to the big sisters of the world (such > as Canon, HP, Epson, Lexmark, Kodak, etc., the more you know, the more will > be) to write "at least" drivers also for Linux and ship the with the > products. > I think that, if we collect our strength in thousands of signatures, they will > be compelled to listen to us, one day. > I wonder why I have still have to search a printer in the Linux database (very > good work, by the way) to know if my actual printer or the next I will buy > works "perfectly, mostly, good, badly" and so on. > The idea is not to make a petition for one product only, but all products to > come starting from now on. > > So, I ask to you if you like the idea and agree, if there is still a similar > projects (if so, where?), and, in case the project should start, to spread in > all Linux mailing lists you know all around the world. > > Obviously, I will submit the petition to you all before starting the petition. > > (Sorry for my poor English, I hope you understood my words) > Your english is sufficient for me (french) Many of the free software users and do-ers will support an idea like this. Now is the time to start, merge, implement or do something. Someone have to start, then to let users know they can sign and participate. WE can do it. And we will have certain success with OUR effort, as the manufacturers of hardware are selling Hardware, and we want to BUY it. WE only want them to tell us How to access it, or to give us a basic acces method to their hardware (compatibility, driver, port-map, something...) and WE will make a pleasure to implement the missing elements for them, so THEY can Freely include it on their Driver-CD, and by the way, maybe put a penguin on their box, besides the Win and Mac logos... What a wonderful offer to a manufacturer of hardware to be Given the driver by volunteer fleet of developpers, include it on the disk, print logo, sell x% more hardware. (Even a windows user, buying the hardware, and thinking if ... Will be interested to know this hardware, will work on Linux too if he choose to BUY it.) Some hardware manufacturers will surely step on the occasion. (as many have already done...) -- Martin Laberge mlsoft at videotron.ca Tel:(418)521-6823 30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning... From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 20:27:21 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:27:21 +0300 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <880dece00807071047j721e418bm8ccf48810b3c33c2@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/9 Willy Hamra : > that's great thing, whenever the project officially starts, i'm down with > it. Thanks, Willy, I'll start compiling a list of people to contact when the site / project launches. You're on it! If anyone else wants to be contacted and to help, please either reply here or in private mail. The project will require about ten minutes investment a week per participant. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Jul 10 01:10:19 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:10:19 -0400 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807092110.19769.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 09 July 2008 4:27:21 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/9 Willy Hamra : > > that's great thing, whenever the project officially starts, i'm down with > > it. > > Thanks, Willy, I'll start compiling a list of people to contact when > the site / project launches. You're on it! > > If anyone else wants to be contacted and to help, please either reply > here or in private mail. The project will require about ten minutes > investment a week per participant. You can include me also. I'll do whatever I can to help. David M. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 04:01:49 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:01:49 +0200 Subject: messed up my kicker menubar In-Reply-To: <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <487589AD.9090209@gmail.com> Karl Klinger wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> Right, >> somehow I completely messed up my kicker menubar, the one where active >> windows are supposed to be showing... this happened while trying >> something related to Google Desktop. I went to System Settings - Window >> Behaviour - tab Advanced. Ticked the box "Hide utility windows for >> inactive applications". >> >> Bang - got a crash notice I did not think much about until I left the >> place in question and found the menu bar showing no apps windows/icons. >> >> No matter what I try and change since then it has absolutely no effect >> whatsoever. Have played around with "dcop kicker kicker restart", no >> change whatsoever. If I add an extra External Taskbar it nicely shows >> the apps in that one... same with a KasBar. But I prefer the "running >> apps" back where I am used to.... >> >> Any help appreciated, >> >> Sinclair >> > Could it be that the taskbar applet got removed from the panel? > You are the man! Such a seemingly simple thing and I tried like tens of other setting changes and so on! It never even occured to me.... heartfelt thanks, Sinclair From spwhite at freesurf.ch Thu Jul 10 04:51:16 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:51:16 +0200 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807100651.16450.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Wednesday 09 July 2008 22:27, you wrote: > If anyone else wants to be contacted and to help, please either reply > here IMHO that would be abusing the list, just filling it with "me too's" *because of this statement I feel compelled to post to the list *but urge those having nothing more to add, to reply in private mail. > or in private mail. O.K. > The project will require about ten minutes > investment a week per participant. Note that occasionnaly posting some news or call for action here may be tolerated/encouraged. Although OT because not technically related I belive the list should leave *some* room for the interests of the Linux community. Sign me in. Perry -- BOFH excuse #402: Secretary sent chain letter to all 5000 employees From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 08:45:10 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:45:10 +0300 Subject: A modest proposal for proprietary drivers - little OT In-Reply-To: <200807100651.16450.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200807061856.50168.valtermura@gmail.com> <15edeae40807091247xc9ba43av3c6321e2f5f149be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807091327t1da4c74arfdc5e959cacf1774@mail.gmail.com> <200807100651.16450.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <880dece00807100145l7e63c617nbcda411ddbebc534@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/10 Sylviane et Perry White : > On Wednesday 09 July 2008 22:27, you wrote: >> If anyone else wants to be contacted and to help, please either reply >> here > IMHO that would be abusing the list, just filling it with "me too's" > *because of this statement I feel compelled to post to the list > *but urge those having nothing more to add, to reply in private mail. >> or in private mail. > O.K. Agreed. Please contact off list. I've got about 10 folks already interested. >> The project will require about ten minutes >> investment a week per participant. > Note that occasionnaly posting some news or call for action here may be > tolerated/encouraged. Although OT because not technically related I belive > the list should leave *some* room for the interests of the Linux community. > I will be sure to mention the Ubuntu-specific relevancy on-list in a few weeks when I have the time to launch the project. Right now, I'm bogged down in university studies. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From Herve at lucidia.net Thu Jul 10 12:26:16 2008 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:26:16 +0200 Subject: installing webcam on ubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: <487531E9.6090109@uea.edu.br> References: <487531E9.6090109@uea.edu.br> Message-ID: <4413284c0807100526vb5d1a71s883805cac0d0d286@mail.gmail.com> Olà! Could you please provide us the output of the following command: sudo lshw Also, the webcam sometimes needs to be started using a special function key on the keyboard (mine does). Thanks in advamce, Hervé 2008/7/9 Rosa Maria Nascimento Santos : > Hi everybody! > > I'm a new user of ubuntu. I installed ubuntu 8.04 (with kde) on my > laptop and it didn't recognized the webcam. My Laptop is a sony vaio-CR > processor intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo 2.1GHz. Would anybody know what should > I do to make it work?! > > Thanks a lot! > > Rosa > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 10 14:18:01 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:18:01 -0300 Subject: installing webcam on ubuntu 8.04 References: <487531E9.6090109@uea.edu.br> <4413284c0807100526vb5d1a71s883805cac0d0d286@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1348297.bDjNvmzKrb@cedar.serverforest.com> Hervé Fache wrote: > Olà! > > Could you please provide us the output of the following command: > sudo lshw Which might be excessively verbose. It's probably a USB device (beats me why webcams are attached to the USB system even when hardwired), so the output of "lsusb" would be useful. > > Also, the webcam sometimes needs to be started using a special > function key on the keyboard (mine does). Ugh. :-) -- derek From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Jul 10 16:53:26 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:53:26 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop Message-ID: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to remove my desktop. On the face of it, it looks I've got to put up with samba being installed, unless I want to lose my desktop. Any suggestions folks? Some workaround perhaps, where I can block updates for samba. Thanks for any help on this annoying problem. Nigel. From kassube at gmx.net Thu Jul 10 17:09:08 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:09:08 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Henry wrote: > Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, > and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, > and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and > smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient > being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to > remove my desktop. You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages needed to install the desktop. Nils From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 17:19:01 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:19:01 +0300 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48764485.20709@gmail.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: >> Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, >> and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, >> and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and >> smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient >> being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to >> remove my desktop. > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The > package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages > needed to install the desktop. > > > Nils > > if kubuntu-desktop got removed, and he ran apt-get (or any other package program), won't he get a huge list of kubuntu-dekstop dependencies that were installed and are no longer needed, and would suggest he run "apt-get autoremove" to remove them? as far as i know, whenever i want to remove a program and all it's packages i remove the meta-package, and run "sudo apt-get autoremove". and maybe i'm wrong :) -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 10 17:18:25 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:18:25 -0300 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <1807992.FtFp4niGUL@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Henry wrote: > Well this is a bit weird. Not at all... > I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, and > being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, and > check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and > smbclient are going to be removed. Naturally... > Now I've no problems with smbclient > being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to remove > my desktop. It's _not_ your desktop. It's the kubuntu-desktop metapackage. The *-desktop packages depend on all the standard elements of that desktop, therefore removing any standard component of your chosen desktop will force it to remove the metapackage. No big deal (except that the version update process is predicated on the existence of the desktop package, and will either not work or will _reinstall_ kubuntu-desktop - I can't remember which). -- derek From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Jul 10 17:31:35 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:31:35 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200807101931.35227.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:09, Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, > > and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, > > and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and > > smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient > > being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to > > remove my desktop. > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The > package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages > needed to install the desktop. > > > Nils Apologies for my paranoia. I seriously thought that I was going to lose the desktop. The only thing installed now is libsmbclient, and updated, but I'll soon get rid of that. Thanks for your help, and quick reply. Nigel. From kassube at gmx.net Thu Jul 10 17:48:49 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:48:49 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <48764485.20709@gmail.com> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> <48764485.20709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807101948.49762.kassube@gmx.net> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. > > The package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all > > packages needed to install the desktop. > > if kubuntu-desktop got removed, and he ran apt-get (or any other > package program), won't he get a huge list of kubuntu-dekstop > dependencies that were installed and are no longer needed, and would > suggest he run "apt-get autoremove" to remove them? as far as i know, > whenever i want to remove a program and all it's packages i remove the > meta-package, and run "sudo apt-get autoremove". and maybe i'm wrong :) While this may be true (I never tested it), you are not forced to use "sudo apt-get autoremove". Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 17:56:09 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:56:09 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48764D39.9010008@gmail.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: >> Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, >> and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, >> and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and >> smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient >> being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to >> remove my desktop. > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The > package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages > needed to install the desktop. > I would be careful on the removal of kubuntu-desktop package. Yes it is supposed to be without problems but I have had weird consequences from doing that before. These days I rather use aptitude from command-line to remove, it normally allows you to leave kubuntu-desktop. Sinclair From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Jul 10 18:33:16 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:33:16 +0200 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop In-Reply-To: <200807101931.35227.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> <200807101931.35227.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200807102033.16903.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:31, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:09, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Nigel Henry wrote: > > > Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, > > > and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, > > > and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and > > > smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient > > > being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to > > > remove my desktop. > > > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The > > package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages > > needed to install the desktop. > > > > > > Nils > > Apologies for my paranoia. I seriously thought that I was going to lose the > desktop. The only thing installed now is libsmbclient, and updated, but > I'll soon get rid of that. > > Thanks for your help, and quick reply. > > Nigel. I may have been a bit hasty, when I said, regarding libsmbclient "I'll soon get rid of that". In Synaptic, selecting "Mark for Complete Removal" for libsmbclient, it wants to remove the following packages. amarok amarok-xine digicam kaffeine kaffeine-xine kdebase-kio-plugins kmail kmailcvt kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins kontact kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts libxine1 mozilla-mplayer mplayer and last but not least strigi-applet (whatever that is) Needless to say, I havn't agreed to these removals, and think that it may be best to leave libsmbclient installed, as I don't want to lose a load of music/media apps, along with a bunch of other stuff. It is all a bit bizarre though. Why should removing a library "libsmbclient", which is a library that samba uses for file sharing between linux, and windows machines, want to remove a whole bunch of music/media apps, as some sort of dependencies. Very puzzled. Nigel. From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 10 19:31:37 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:31:37 -0300 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> <48764485.20709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1525987.eSLSfCFY6g@cedar.serverforest.com> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Nigel Henry wrote: >>> Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need Samba, >>> and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open synaptic, >>> and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that kubuntu-desktop, and >>> smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no problems with smbclient >>> being removed, but why the hell does removing samba, also want to >>> remove my desktop. >> >> You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. The >> package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all packages >> needed to install the desktop. >> > if kubuntu-desktop got removed, and he ran apt-get (or any other package > program), won't he get a huge list of kubuntu-dekstop dependencies that > were installed and are no longer needed, and would suggest he run > "apt-get autoremove" to remove them? No idea - I haven't used apt-get since aptitude came along, and apt-get never used to do that sort of thing - but it doesn't happen with aptitude. > as far as i know, whenever i want > to remove a program and all it's packages i remove the meta-package, and > run "sudo apt-get autoremove". and maybe i'm wrong :) It must handle implicit removal of a meta-package by removing a dependent automatically installed package (e.g., samba-common), differently from explicit removal of that metapackage, or it would never be possible to remove any dependencies without removing all others - or remarking them as manual. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 10 19:48:10 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:48:10 -0300 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop References: <200807101853.27707.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807101909.08516.kassube@gmx.net> <200807101931.35227.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200807102033.16903.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <1421621.IfWMQkXGM7@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:31, Nigel Henry wrote: >> On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:09, Nils Kassube wrote: >> > Nigel Henry wrote: >> > > Well this is a bit weird. I don't use MS Windows, so don't need >> > > Samba, and being on dialup, Samba updates are not needed. So I open >> > > synaptic, and check remove samba-common. Now I'm told that >> > > kubuntu-desktop, and smbclient are going to be removed. Now I've no >> > > problems with smbclient being removed, but why the hell does removing >> > > samba, also want to remove my desktop. >> > >> > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. >> > The package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all >> > packages needed to install the desktop. >> > >> > >> > Nils >> >> Apologies for my paranoia. I seriously thought that I was going to lose >> the desktop. The only thing installed now is libsmbclient, and updated, >> but I'll soon get rid of that. >> >> Thanks for your help, and quick reply. >> >> Nigel. > > I may have been a bit hasty, when I said, regarding libsmbclient "I'll > soon get rid of that". > > In Synaptic, selecting "Mark for Complete Removal" for libsmbclient, it > wants to remove the following packages. > amarok > amarok-xine > digicam > kaffeine > kaffeine-xine > kdebase-kio-plugins > kmail > kmailcvt > kmplayer-base > kmplayer-konq-plugins > konq-plugins > konqueror > konqueror-nsplugins > kontact > kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts > libxine1 > mozilla-mplayer > mplayer > and last but not least > strigi-applet (whatever that is) > > Needless to say, I havn't agreed to these removals, and think that it may > be best to leave libsmbclient installed, as I don't want to lose a load of > music/media apps, along with a bunch of other stuff. > > It is all a bit bizarre though. Why should removing a library > "libsmbclient", which is a library that samba uses for file sharing > between linux, and windows machines, want to remove a whole bunch of > music/media apps, as some sort of dependencies. It is odd, but at a guess all of the media tools have accepted the fact that they need to be able to talk SMB to talk to the majority of media servers. Since smb _is_ one of the kio plugins, it certainly belongs there and kmailcvt specifically aims to import Outlook/OE emails, so would likely be not much use without smb (of course, unless you're importing old mail from another system, you don't need kmailcvt, anyway). -- derek From jjesse at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 01:45:15 2008 From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:45:15 -0400 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop Message-ID: <4876bb38.34e3220a.7f38.024b@mx.google.com> Sorry for toip posting phone makes it hard to bottom post. Iif you remove the metapackage you will meed to reinstall it before using the upgrade manger to upgrade versions -----Original Message----- From: Nils Kassube Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:48 PM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove Kubuntu-desktop Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > You can remove kubuntu-desktop without loosing any installed program. > > The package kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which depends on all > > packages needed to install the desktop. > > if kubuntu-desktop got removed, and he ran apt-get (or any other > package program), won't he get a huge list of kubuntu-dekstop > dependencies that were installed and are no longer needed, and would > suggest he run "apt-get autoremove" to remove them? as far as i know, > whenever i want to remove a program and all it's packages i remove the > meta-package, and run "sudo apt-get autoremove". and maybe i'm wrong :) While this may be true (I never tested it), you are not forced to use "sudo apt-get autoremove". Nils -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From bammebaby at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 04:09:24 2008 From: bammebaby at gmail.com (John Nielsen) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:09:24 +1000 Subject: Running the latest version of Kubuntu and need access password Message-ID: <4876DCF4.7050004@gmail.com> Hi list I'm running the latest version of Kubuntu and I did an update and when I rebooted I could not get past the log in screen with the 1234 password. What is the default password for the new release? Cheers John Nielsen From kassube at gmx.net Fri Jul 11 04:36:34 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:36:34 +0200 Subject: Running the latest version of Kubuntu and need access password In-Reply-To: <4876DCF4.7050004@gmail.com> References: <4876DCF4.7050004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807110636.34113.kassube@gmx.net> John Nielsen wrote: > I'm running the latest version of Kubuntu and I did an update and when > I rebooted I could not get past the log in screen with the 1234 > password. > > What is the default password for the new release? There is no default password. During the installation you were asked for a login and password. You need to use those to login. Now, if you don't remember, you can set a new password using this instruction: Nils From dave at thefletchers.net Fri Jul 11 08:18:17 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:18:17 +0100 Subject: Virtualbox with latest kernel - Gutsy Message-ID: <20080711081823.E4C0E12880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> I was having a play with installing XP under virtualbox, running on Gutsy, last night. I found that it won't work with the latest kernel, but does work with the latest-1. Sorry I'm at work now and can't remember all the version numbers. Bruce Marshall posted a tip on 25th June about rebuilding vboxdrv by using:- /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup to recompile the driver against new kernels. I tried this and it won't work. Looking at the contents of /etc/init.d/vboxdrv I found a comment that somebody has removed the setup function especially for us (k)ubuntu users. Thanks. Can anybody please tell how to sort this out, or point me to somewhere where it's already documented? Thanks. Dave From kassube at gmx.net Fri Jul 11 11:56:20 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:56:20 +0200 Subject: Virtualbox with latest kernel - Gutsy In-Reply-To: <20080711081823.E4C0E12880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> References: <20080711081823.E4C0E12880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807111356.20406.kassube@gmx.net> David Fletcher wrote: > Bruce Marshall posted a tip on 25th June about rebuilding vboxdrv by > using:- /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup > to recompile the driver against new kernels. I tried this and it > won't work. Looking at the contents of /etc/init.d/vboxdrv I found a > comment that somebody has removed the setup function especially for > us (k)ubuntu users. Thanks. You could download the original version of VirtualBox (www.virtualbox.org) or I could send you a working version of the file. Nils From atrypa at eskimo.com Fri Jul 11 12:16:22 2008 From: atrypa at eskimo.com (Wendell Cochran) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:16:22 -0700 Subject: Trying to remove samba on GG wants to remove =?iso-8859-1?q?=A0Kubuntu-desktop?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807110516.22491.atrypa@eskimo.com> > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:45:15 -0400 > From: Jonathan Jesse > > Sorry for toip posting phone makes it hard to bottom post. How does phone make it hard to scroll, insert, etc.? From dave at thefletchers.net Fri Jul 11 13:12:42 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:12:42 +0100 Subject: Virtualbox with latest kernel - Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200807111356.20406.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20080711081823.E4C0E12880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> <200807111356.20406.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200807111412.42291.dave@thefletchers.net> If it's of use to anybody else, I got the procedure I needed from another source:- sudo apt-get -y install virtualbox-ose-source build-essential module-assistant sudo m-a build virtualbox-ose sudo m-a install virtualbox-ose sudo modprobe vboxdrv But before the install stage would work I had to sudo aptitude remove virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic sudo aptitude install virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-15-generic and then sudo aptitude install virtualbox because the first step removed it due to dependency I guess. Anyway, XP is now sitting on another desktop installing 71 updates during shutdown. Dave From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 16:44:44 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:44:44 -0400 Subject: Problems with 8.04.1 In-Reply-To: <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> I just installed a downloaded DVD of Kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64 to replace my outdated Dapper.  The installation was a little ragged but managed on the last run to get to 96% and a statement that it was removing unnecessary file and then it just went into hyperspace.  Hitting the power button caused a GRUB boot into the new system and everything seemed to work  ... up to a point. One can do a "gcc hello.c" but gcc can't find the stdio.h header file.  In fact, the /usr/include directory is nearly empty. I cannot find anything related to C or compilers on adept. I am totally clueless on how to get my bread-and-butter software up and running! Oh yes, I cannot find a damned thing related to the TeX system on adept either. There are other lesser issues like where is ccat (encryption stuff), etc., that was part of basic Dapper instalation? -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From juankawada at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 17:09:31 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:09:31 -0600 Subject: Problems with 8.04.1 In-Reply-To: <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: I may be completely off on this, but I don't think it's necessary to include any preprocessor directives like stdio.h, but just iostream, etc. At least this was my experience with c++, and I haven't used c on linux yet. Did you make sure to install gcc, and all of the dependencies? I've been using KATE (with the embedded terminal window) in conjunction with g++ for programming. I wish I could try to help you with the other problems, but right now I'm at work on windows... On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Gerald I. Evenden < geraldi.evenden at gmail.com> wrote: > I just installed a downloaded DVD of Kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64 to replace my > outdated Dapper. The installation was a little ragged but managed on the > last run to get to 96% and a statement that it was removing unnecessary > file > and then it just went into hyperspace. Hitting the power button caused a > GRUB boot into the new system and everything seemed to work ... up to a > point. > > One can do a "gcc hello.c" but gcc can't find the stdio.h header file. In > fact, the /usr/include directory is nearly empty. > > I cannot find anything related to C or compilers on adept. > > I am totally clueless on how to get my bread-and-butter software up and > running! > > Oh yes, I cannot find a damned thing related to the TeX system on adept > either. > > There are other lesser issues like where is ccat (encryption stuff), etc., > that was part of basic Dapper instalation? > -- > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. > > Can anybody please tell how to sort this out, or point me to > somewhere where it's already documented? > > Thanks. > > Dave It's working fine on this kernel: 2.6.24-19-generic And vboxdrv setup worked fine too. As far as I know, that's the latest kernel. Have you downloaded a new version of vbox yet? I'm running the one that you get from Sun. www.virtualbox.org From k7qo at commspeed.net Fri Jul 11 17:58:27 2008 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (chuck adams) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:58:27 -0700 Subject: Problems with 8.04.1 In-Reply-To: <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807111058.27294.k7qo@commspeed.net> On Friday 11 July 2008 09:44:44 Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > I just installed a downloaded DVD of Kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64 to replace my > outdated Dapper.  The installation was a little ragged but managed on the > last run to get to 96% and a statement that it was removing unnecessary > file and then it just went into hyperspace.  Hitting the power button > caused a GRUB boot into the new system and everything seemed to work  ... > up to a point. > > One can do a "gcc hello.c" but gcc can't find the stdio.h header file.  In > fact, the /usr/include directory is nearly empty. > > I cannot find anything related to C or compilers on adept. > > I am totally clueless on how to get my bread-and-butter software up and > running! > > Oh yes, I cannot find a damned thing related to the TeX system on adept > either. > > There are other lesser issues like where is ccat (encryption stuff), etc., > that was part of basic Dapper instalation? > -- > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist I'm with you. I filed a bug report on the missing stdio.h and got back an email that stdio.h was not a requirement for gcc. duh..... Here is some of what I do to get gcc and latex up and running. You can do this through the adept manager.... sudo apt-get install libc6 sudo apt-get install libc6-dev " texlive-base texlive-base-bin texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-extra texlive-fonts-recommended texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-recommended texlive-latex-extra texlive-pictures texlive-pictures-doc and there is probably more. But at least the above will get you started. Hope this helps. Kubuntu/Ubuntu is the only distribution that I know of that installs gcc but leaves out stdio.h FYI chuck -- chuck adams, k7qo k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net From kassube at gmx.net Fri Jul 11 18:14:28 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:14:28 +0200 Subject: Problems with 8.04.1 In-Reply-To: <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm> <200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > I just installed a downloaded DVD of Kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64 to replace my > outdated Dapper.  The installation was a little ragged but managed on > the last run to get to 96% and a statement that it was removing > unnecessary file and then it just went into hyperspace.  Hitting the > power button caused a GRUB boot into the new system and everything > seemed to work  ... up to a point. > > One can do a "gcc hello.c" but gcc can't find the stdio.h header file. >  In fact, the /usr/include directory is nearly empty. Install package "build-essential" and you can compile simple programs. For more complicated things you will need extra development packages. The names of these development packages are those ending with "-dev" - which development packages you need depends on the libraries you want to use. Nils From girardhenri at free.fr Fri Jul 11 19:43:41 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:43:41 +0200 Subject: Problems with 8.04.1 In-Reply-To: <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <48750D67.6010106@fastmail.fm><200807111244.44940.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> Here you have the recipe to compile kde4 http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian there is a tutorial for beginners too ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nils Kassube" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Problems with 8.04.1 Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > I just installed a downloaded DVD of Kubuntu 8.04.1 amd64 to replace my > outdated Dapper. The installation was a little ragged but managed on > the last run to get to 96% and a statement that it was removing > unnecessary file and then it just went into hyperspace. Hitting the > power button caused a GRUB boot into the new system and everything > seemed to work ... up to a point. > > One can do a "gcc hello.c" but gcc can't find the stdio.h header file. > In fact, the /usr/include directory is nearly empty. Install package "build-essential" and you can compile simple programs. For more complicated things you will need extra development packages. The names of these development packages are those ending with "-dev" - which development packages you need depends on the libraries you want to use. Nils -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From mhaf at hotmail.co.uk Sat Jul 12 18:16:38 2008 From: mhaf at hotmail.co.uk (mf h) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:16:38 +0100 Subject: kubuntu & unbuntu Message-ID: I am trying to install kubuntu on a laptop computer made by www.uniwill.com The computer is a U50SI1 which I gather appears on their web site as a U40! I had problems so I cam across an article that said install unbuntu first. so, I tried that. unbuntu 8.04 hung in the middle of some acpi messages ubuntu 7.04 & 6.10 got further; they both see, to seem to be having problems with the SIS 5513 IDE controller. The exact place I get to in the sequence is random, which seems to be a consequence of this controller if I understand what the web is saying. It also seems to be starting up the USB controller & I get a number of USB messages, none of which look wrong to me. I have tried adding a range of boot params such as all-generic-ide pci=noacpi noapic which I have had suggested by various boot sequences; none of these seem to have any effect. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-634063.html suggests that there is a kernel fix, but I am too much of a kubuntu novice to understand the solution if there is one. Help greatly appreciated as my daughter needs kubuntu for her university course _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not a big deal for me. I so seldom use a web page link I > can just enter the address in an outgoing e-mail manually > I never liked those 'fill_in_the_subject_line_for_you' mailto links, so I just right click and choose 'Copy email address', then paste into Tbird. Didn't even notice that there was a problem! Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 19:38:38 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:38:38 +0300 Subject: Cannot set proper environment for Digikam beta Message-ID: <880dece00807121238x773b1fc5q8a7d1bf3a4a29da@mail.gmail.com> As I've built Digikam 0.10 beta from SVN on KDE 4.1 beta2, I need to set it's environment manually. I've just been guessing at values such as these: export LIBDIR=$DIGIKAMKDE4:/usr/lib/kde4 export DBUSDIR=$DIGIKAMKDE4:/usr/lib/kde4 export KDEDIR=$DIGIKAMKDE4:/usr/lib/kde4 export KDEDIRS=$DIGIKAMKDE4:/usr/lib/kde4 export KDEHOME=/home/hardy/.kde4 export KDETMP=/home/hardy/tmp/hardy-kde4 export KDEVARTMP="/var/tmp/hardy-kde4"; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$DIGIKAMKDE4/lib:/usr/lib/kde4:/usr/lib/kde4/lib export LDPATH=$DIGIKAMKDE4/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$DIGIKAMKDE4/lib export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt4 export QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/plugins export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$DIGIKAMKDE4/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/kde4/lib/pkgconfig export PATH=$DIGIKAMKDE4/bin:$PATH How can I find out what these values really are supposed to be? Digikam starts but has io errors because of the wrong environment: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165885 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From execrable at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 20:43:46 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:43:46 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network Message-ID: Hey, I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I recently set up a new media box for my TV. Since I didn't want to run cables across the living room, I decided to give wireless a try. It's been a long time since I tried to get wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the wireless will go down and then come back up. When the wireless first goes down, the linux box tries to reconnect but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it gives up. When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on knetworkmanager, and click on my network it connects fine, but as this is a media PC I want to be able to remotely access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days but I could not find anything specifically addressing this problem (maybe I'm just bad at searching). All the topics I found were about automatically connecting on boot (which works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or setting that I could use to fix this? I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Sat Jul 12 21:20:57 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:20:57 +0100 Subject: kubuntu & unbuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48792039.6030604@candt.waitrose.com> mf h wrote: > I am trying to install kubuntu on a laptop computer made by www.uniwill.com The computer is a U50SI1 which I gather appears on their web site as a U40! > > > I had problems so I cam across an article that said install unbuntu first. > > so, I tried that. > > unbuntu 8.04 hung in the middle of some acpi messages > > > ubuntu 7.04 & 6.10 got further; they both see, to seem to be having problems with the SIS 5513 IDE controller. > > The exact place I get to in the sequence is random, which seems to be a consequence of this controller if I understand what the web is saying. It also seems to be starting up the USB controller & I get a number of USB messages, none of which look wrong to me. > > I have tried adding a range of boot params such as > > all-generic-ide > > pci=noacpi > > noapic > > > which I have had suggested by various boot sequences; none of these seem to have any effect. > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-634063.html suggests that there is a kernel fix, but I am too much of a kubuntu novice to understand the solution if there is one. > > Help greatly appreciated as my daughter needs kubuntu for her university course I cannot help directly here, sorry. However, if you do not get a fast answer you might like to consider using the ubuntu forums also: http://ubuntuforums.org/ -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 21:35:53 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:35:53 +0200 Subject: Strange keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: <200807020831.43358.tkg@lanl.gov> <15edeae40807030357s4bb9f256o1c46b68154a8be85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Juan Kawada wrote: > Yeah same here, maybe we should report a bug? It's not too bad though, I > always just press the button when I switch operating systems. > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Willy Hamra wrote: > >> this also happened with me on hardy (32 bit), when i set the numlock to be >> on at startup, it started to be **ON** but the LED working in reverse! >> >> 2008/7/2 Thomas K. Gamble : >> >> After upgrading my system to Hardy (64 bit), for some strange reason the >>> numlock key led works in reverse. The led is off when the numlock is on >>> and >>> the led is on when the numlock is off. It works normally when I boot to a >>> console, so it appears to be either X or KDE that is causing this. I >>> can't >>> find any settings that might be misconfigured. Anyone have any clues? >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas K. Gamble >>> System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer >>> Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) >>> Los Alamos National Laboratory >>> MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 >>> >>> There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. >>> Henry Kissinger >> >> Another me too! Not sure when it started but this year for sure. 64 bit kubutu 8.04 Never reported a bug because it so easy to just push the numlock button again. 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When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect > automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on knetworkmanager, and > click on my network it connects fine, but as this is a media PC I want to be > able to remotely access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and > reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. > > I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days but I could not > find anything specifically addressing this problem (maybe I'm just bad at > searching). All the topics I found were about automatically connecting on > boot (which works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or setting > that I could use to fix this? > > I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. > > Thanks Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so often and if not connected then try? -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 21:56:59 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:56:59 -0400 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> Message-ID: <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow the instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. I wish Adobe would stop being such an a--hole and get a 64 machine going. It shouldn't be that tough. A minor unrelated complaint is giving "names" to the various released. Just plain old 1.2.3 thank-you. Thanks for any comments on the flash player problem. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From execrable at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 23:09:55 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:09:55 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Knapp wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brian Parma wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I recently set up a >> new media box for my TV. Since I didn't want to run cables across the >> living room, I decided to give wireless a try. It's been a long time since >> I tried to get wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it >> was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the wireless will go >> down and then come back up. When the wireless first goes down, the linux >> box tries to reconnect but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it >> gives up. When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect >> automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on knetworkmanager, and >> click on my network it connects fine, but as this is a media PC I want to be >> able to remotely access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and >> reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. >> >> I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days but I could not >> find anything specifically addressing this problem (maybe I'm just bad at >> searching). All the topics I found were about automatically connecting on >> boot (which works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or setting >> that I could use to fix this? >> >> I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. >> >> Thanks > > > Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so often and > if not connected then try? > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I suppose if there's no easier way I could try that (I've never messed with cron so i'll have to do some reading ). I was just hoping there was a easy, user-friendly way to do it (it's ubuntu afterall ). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Sat Jul 12 23:39:22 2008 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:39:22 +0300 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/13/08, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x > dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow the > instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. > > I wish Adobe would stop being such an a--hole and get a 64 machine going. It > shouldn't be that tough. > > A minor unrelated complaint is giving "names" to the various released. Just > plain old 1.2.3 thank-you. > > Thanks for any comments on the flash player problem. > >From the Ubuntu-devel list: "Since there doesn't seem to be a policy defined anywhere on how to deal with regressions in backports, I figured it wouldn't hurt to send an e-mail to ubuntu-devel to help ensure the proper folks can take action.The recent flashplugin-nonfree backport causes Firefox to become unstable as the plugin is causing a crash when users visit a number of popular websites that take advantage of the technology. This renders some websites competely inaccessible and users who frequent primarily websites that use flash may find their ability to do so almost completely crippled although due to the popularity of flash ads, banners, and widgets, almost all users will experience frequent crashes regardless of their browsing habits. The master bug report can be found at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/247682 Anyhow, I suppose the first step is blocking the update and getting a fix out. After, we can look at how this happened and what we need to do to reduce the risk of something similiar occuring again. Cheers, -- Cody A.W. Somerville" Hope this helps Jussi Schultink > -- > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Sat Jul 12 23:44:53 2008 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:44:53 +0300 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/13/08, Jussi Schultink wrote: > On 7/13/08, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x > > dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow the > > instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. > > > > I wish Adobe would stop being such an a--hole and get a 64 machine going. It > > shouldn't be that tough. > > > > A minor unrelated complaint is giving "names" to the various released. Just > > plain old 1.2.3 thank-you. > > > > Thanks for any comments on the flash player problem. > > Seems I didnt read your problem correctly, but anyway, the info may be useful. For installing flash on a 64 bit machine, take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava BR Jussi > > > From the Ubuntu-devel list: > > "Since there doesn't seem to be a policy defined anywhere on how to > deal with regressions in backports, I figured it wouldn't hurt to send > an e-mail to ubuntu-devel to help ensure the proper folks can take > action.The recent flashplugin-nonfree backport causes Firefox to > become unstable as the plugin is causing a crash when users visit a > number of popular websites that take advantage of the technology. This > renders some websites competely inaccessible and users who frequent > primarily websites that use flash may find their ability to do so > almost completely crippled although due to the popularity of flash > ads, banners, and widgets, almost all users will experience frequent > crashes regardless of their browsing habits. > > The master bug report can be found at > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/247682 > > Anyhow, I suppose the first step is blocking the update and getting a > fix out. After, we can look at how this happened and what we need to > do to reduce the risk of something similiar occuring again. > > Cheers, > > -- > Cody A.W. Somerville" > > > Hope this helps > > Jussi Schultink > > > -- > > > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From bammevents at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 02:42:30 2008 From: bammevents at gmail.com (John Nielsen) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:42:30 +1000 Subject: Kubuntu issues Message-ID: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> Hi all Well I have what I imagine to be the lastest version of Kubuntu and it was going well right up unitl the point I did an update....then as indicated I reebooted the poota...and got to the log in screen...put in the password that I'd used before and it re looped to the log in screen. I've re set the password still the same thing happens. So what do I do next? Growing frustration John N From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 08:12:47 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:12:47 +0200 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/12 Gerald I. Evenden : > Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x > dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow the > instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. > > I wish Adobe would stop being such an a--hole and get a 64 machine going. It > shouldn't be that tough. > > A minor unrelated complaint is giving "names" to the various released. Just > plain old 1.2.3 thank-you. > > Thanks for any comments on the flash player problem. > > -- > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! As of Kubuntu Hardy (running 64 bit) it worked "out of box" for me with flash, java, realmedia and windows media in firefox, perhaps that's why you don't see any info above 7.x. /Jonas From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 08:16:16 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:16:16 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu issues In-Reply-To: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> References: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4879B9D0.30301@gmail.com> John Nielsen wrote: > Hi all > Well I have what I imagine to be the lastest version of Kubuntu and it > was going well right up unitl the point I did an update....then as > indicated I reebooted the poota...and got to the log in screen...put in > the password that I'd used before and it re looped to the log in screen. > > I've re set the password still the same thing happens. > > So what do I do next? > > Growing frustration > > John N > that's probably an X issue, a KDE problem, or a bash problem (weird, but yes, bash profiles did this once with me!) can you remember what packages were last installed? also, it might not be related to the update, the problem occurred because of something you did else. if an X package has been installed, go to a console from the login screen and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" have you changed any of these files in your home directory, ".bashrc" ".profile" or any similar bash settings file? if so, either restore a backup, fix it, or simply delete it. hope this helps -- Willy K. 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Hamra : > John Nielsen wrote: >> Hi all >> Well I have what I imagine to be the lastest version of Kubuntu and it >> was going well right up unitl the point I did an update....then as >> indicated I reebooted the poota...and got to the log in screen...put in >> the password that I'd used before and it re looped to the log in screen. >> >> I've re set the password still the same thing happens. >> >> So what do I do next? >> >> Growing frustration >> >> John N >> > that's probably an X issue, a KDE problem, or a bash problem (weird, but > yes, bash profiles did this once with me!) > can you remember what packages were last installed? also, it might not > be related to the update, the problem occurred because of something you > did else. > if an X package has been installed, go to a console from the login > screen and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" > have you changed any of these files in your home directory, ".bashrc" > ".profile" or any similar bash settings file? if so, either restore a > backup, fix it, or simply delete it. > hope this helps And just to role out a login problem, press CTRL-ALT-F1 and try to login from a console. If that work it's probably a KDM/KDE problem. I don't think it's a X problem as KDM is starting up OK. /Jonas From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 10:41:54 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:41:54 +0000 Subject: Adept manager Message-ID: <071320081041.29942.4879DBF2000AFE42000074F62207002953CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> I opened Adept Manager for the first time in a few days and I noticed that in the Update tab of the Manage Repositories dialog box, the Important security updates option was unchecked. When I tried to check it, it wouldn't remain checked. Can anyone suggest an explanation or preferably a fix? Thanks, Paul From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Sun Jul 13 12:40:31 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:40:31 -0500 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807112014.28908.kassube@gmx.net> <31EF989AA1FB47B694F9F94B37F7D4BE@vista> <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080713074031.9hxf5x25wggkgc4k@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> In Kubuntu 8.04 on my HP AMD 64-bit desktop, the standard 'add/remove' button in the menu brings up adept-installer. In the 'Others' section there is a lines for installing 'Macromedia Flash Player' plugin for Firefox. Is this what is wanted? It worked fine for me. GAG Quoting "Gerald I. Evenden" : > Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x > dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow the > instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. > > I wish Adobe would stop being such an a--hole and get a 64 machine going. It > shouldn't be that tough. > > A minor unrelated complaint is giving "names" to the various released. Just > plain old 1.2.3 thank-you. > > Thanks for any comments on the flash player problem. > > -- > The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due > to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. > -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 14:45:53 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:45:53 -0400 Subject: Good ol' Flash player problems on 8.04.1 amd64 with kubuntu In-Reply-To: <20080713074031.9hxf5x25wggkgc4k@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> References: <48750965.2000708@gmail.com> <200807121757.00090.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <20080713074031.9hxf5x25wggkgc4k@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807131045.53433.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> On Sunday 13 July 2008 8:40:31 am G. A. Gallup wrote: > In Kubuntu 8.04 on my HP AMD 64-bit desktop, the standard 'add/remove' > button in the menu brings up adept-installer. In the 'Others' section > there is a lines for installing 'Macromedia Flash Player' plugin for > Firefox. Is this what is wanted? It worked fine for me. > GAG There was also the reply > As of Kubuntu Hardy (running 64 bit) it worked "out of box" for me > with flash, java, realmedia and windows media in firefox, perhaps > that's why you don't see any info above 7.x. > > /Jonas I followed the first suggestion and installed 'Macromedia Flash Player' plugin' and then ran Firefox on youtube: still nothing and a message "get the latest ..." BTW: when I first installed Firefox I used adept and the version 3 selection. > Quoting "Gerald I. Evenden" : > > Browsing though the [k]ubunto web pages I do not find anything beyond 7.x > > dealing with getting Adobe's Flash onto Firefox, etc.. Does one follow > > the instructions for Dapper or what? The web is getting slightly dated. ... -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jul 13 15:30:18 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:30:18 +0100 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree Message-ID: <487A1F8A.9040001@tiscali.co.uk> According to FF3, I have the Flash 9,0,124,0 plugin installed. According to aptitude, I have the Flash 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 plugin installed. Flash9 is purged... I'm confused. Anyone know why FF3 (and the Adobe site) think I've only got Flash9? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From execrable at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 16:12:30 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:12:30 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Brian Parma wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Knapp wrote: > >> >> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brian Parma >> wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I recently set up a >>> new media box for my TV. Since I didn't want to run cables across the >>> living room, I decided to give wireless a try. It's been a long time since >>> I tried to get wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it >>> was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the wireless will go >>> down and then come back up. When the wireless first goes down, the linux >>> box tries to reconnect but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it >>> gives up. When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect >>> automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on knetworkmanager, and >>> click on my network it connects fine, but as this is a media PC I want to be >>> able to remotely access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and >>> reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. >>> >>> I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days but I could >>> not find anything specifically addressing this problem (maybe I'm just bad >>> at searching). All the topics I found were about automatically connecting >>> on boot (which works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or >>> setting that I could use to fix this? >>> >>> I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >> Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so often and >> if not connected then try? >> >> >> -- >> Douglas E Knapp >> >> http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > I suppose if there's no easier way I could try that (I've never messed with > cron so i'll have to do some reading ). I was just hoping there was a easy, > user-friendly way to do it (it's ubuntu afterall ). > I'm still lost... I've looked at some cron stuff, looks easy enough to use, but I can't seem to find any information on how to check/activate knetworkmanager using the command line. According to nm-tool, my wireless device even detects the wireless network when it comes online, but it doesn't seem to want to automatically activate the device. Right clicking on the tray icon and clicking on the network activates it, but is there a command to activate it? Or better, a way to make NetworkManager auto-activate it? Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Sun Jul 13 16:13:44 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:13:44 -0500 Subject: Man2 and man3 pages for KUBUNTU 8.04, x86-64 Message-ID: <20080713111344.8kagtwzdicg4kwko@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Greetings, I have been unable to find apt-get or adept-installer references for downloading the C-language man2 and man3 pages or the corresponding info pages. /usr/share/man/man2 is empty, and the he present contents of the /usr/share/man/man3 are not man pages. Thanks for any help. GAG From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jul 13 16:34:30 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:34:30 +0200 Subject: Man2 and man3 pages for KUBUNTU 8.04, x86-64 In-Reply-To: <20080713111344.8kagtwzdicg4kwko@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> References: <20080713111344.8kagtwzdicg4kwko@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807131834.30916.kassube@gmx.net> G. A. Gallup wrote: > I have been unable to find apt-get or adept-installer references > for downloading the C-language man2 and man3 pages or the > corresponding info pages. /usr/share/man/man2 is empty, and the he > present contents of the /usr/share/man/man3 are not man pages. Thanks > for any help. I think you are looking for the package "manpages-dev". Nils From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Sun Jul 13 17:12:31 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:12:31 -0500 Subject: Man2 and man3 pages for KUBUNTU 8.04, x86-64 In-Reply-To: <200807131834.30916.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20080713111344.8kagtwzdicg4kwko@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> <200807131834.30916.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20080713121231.wqgwb9uw00os8ko4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Quoting Nils Kassube : > G. A. Gallup wrote: >> I have been unable to find apt-get or adept-installer references >> for downloading the C-language man2 and man3 pages or the >> corresponding info pages. /usr/share/man/man2 is empty, and the he >> present contents of the /usr/share/man/man3 are not man pages. Thanks >> for any help. > > I think you are looking for the package "manpages-dev". > > > Nils Thanks, Nils, that has done it. GAG From barnaby at drofle.com Sun Jul 13 18:32:31 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:32:31 +0100 Subject: Gimp printing Message-ID: <487A4A3F.9090708@drofle.com> I recently installed Gutsy (Kubuntu). Previously I ran Edgy. I do use the Gimp a lot, but rarely for printing. With Edgy I installed Gimp print and it worked fine. Today I tried to install gimp print on Gutsy and it would not do it, with some message about breaking some other programs. The Gimp itself works fine for making changes to my photos before adding them to a photo blog. Today is the first time that I have thought about making some prints. Can anyone tell me where to go from here please? I have version 2.4.6 of the Gimp now. Previously, with Edgy, I had version 2.2.8. I cannot understand why I had no problems before while now I cannot install the print program. Thanks Neil Winchurst From hebm12 at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 18:34:06 2008 From: hebm12 at gmail.com (Hector Barrios Molano) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:34:06 -0500 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <626640da0807131134p2b476e47qaa1742afe68524f9@mail.gmail.com> Hello I'm interest to buy a "netbook" too, I have been decided for the VIA openbook that it's a open design, what do you think about this model? for specifications : here Hector E. Barrios -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Jul 13 21:15:41 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (claydoh) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:15:41 -0400 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree In-Reply-To: <487A1F8A.9040001@tiscali.co.uk> References: <487A1F8A.9040001@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200807131715.41348.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 13 July 2008 11:30:18 am Wulfy wrote: > According to FF3, I have the Flash 9,0,124,0 plugin installed. > According to aptitude, I have the Flash > 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 plugin > installed. Flash9 is purged... > > I'm confused. Anyone know why FF3 (and the Adobe site) think I've only > got Flash9? > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann Those using the Hardy backports repository were hit with a nasty beta version of Adobe's flash plugin that caused FF to crash on many flash sites You can find a link to the changelog on this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/flashplugin-nonfree basically, the flashplugin-nonfree package doesn't contain the plugin itself, it is downloaded directly from Adobe, and as a workaround for those using the backport repo they renamed it so it will get the stable version instead without breaking other dependencies (hence the "+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2') -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Jul 13 21:47:13 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (claydoh) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:47:13 -0400 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree In-Reply-To: <200807131715.41348.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <487A1F8A.9040001@tiscali.co.uk> <200807131715.41348.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200807131747.14088.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 13 July 2008 5:15:41 pm claydoh wrote: > > Those using the Hardy backports repository were hit with a nasty beta > version of Adobe's flash plugin that caused FF to crash on many flash sites > > You can find a link to the changelog on this page: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/flashplugin-nonfree > basically, the flashplugin-nonfree package doesn't contain the plugin > itself, it is downloaded directly from Adobe, and as a workaround for those > using the backport repo they renamed it so it will get the stable version > instead without breaking other dependencies (hence the > "+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2') > > Actually, it is a bug in Firefox, which looks to have been fixed possibly as I just got 3.0.1 just now in hardy-proposed -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Jul 14 00:14:45 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:14:45 +0100 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree In-Reply-To: <200807131715.41348.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <487A1F8A.9040001@tiscali.co.uk> <200807131715.41348.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <487A9A75.8070105@tiscali.co.uk> claydoh wrote: > On Sunday 13 July 2008 11:30:18 am Wulfy wrote: > >> According to FF3, I have the Flash 9,0,124,0 plugin installed. >> According to aptitude, I have the Flash >> 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 plugin >> installed. Flash9 is purged... >> >> I'm confused. Anyone know why FF3 (and the Adobe site) think I've only >> got Flash9? >> >> -- >> Blessings >> >> Wulfmann >> > Those using the Hardy backports repository were hit with a nasty beta version > of Adobe's flash plugin that caused FF to crash on many flash sites > > You can find a link to the changelog on this page: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/flashplugin-nonfree > basically, the flashplugin-nonfree package doesn't contain the plugin itself, > it is downloaded directly from Adobe, and as a workaround for those using the > backport repo they renamed it so it will get the stable version instead > without breaking other dependencies (hence the "+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2') > > > Aha! I didn't notice that... SillyWulf! :@) Thanks, Clay! -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From yuriy-kozlov at kubuntu.org Mon Jul 14 04:48:22 2008 From: yuriy-kozlov at kubuntu.org (Yuriy Kozlov) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:48:22 -0400 Subject: Hug Day - 15 July 2008 Message-ID: <714626160807132148g712791eds693004c81c784174@mail.gmail.com> Kubuntu Intrepid will bring major changes with KDE 4.1, fixing a lot of bugs or making them irrelevant. We need help sorting out which bugs can now be closed, which still need to be fixed in Intrepid, and which bugs are really important and need to be fixed in Hardy/KDE3. So continuing from the great work done last week, the next hug day, on Tuesday, July 15th, will focus on transitioning old KDE3 bug reports to KDE4. The event will be held in #ubuntu-bugs on Freenode. The list of targeted bugs with instructions is posted at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080715 Our goal is to deal with all of the bugs on that list. So on 15 July 2008, in all timezones, we'll be meeting in #ubuntu-bugs on irc.freenode.net for another Kubuntu Hug Day. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay While you are welcome to apply to join the Ubuntu Bug Control team anytime, Hug Day is a great day to join! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugControl If you're interested in helping to make the next release of Kubuntu even better - please stop by. And feel free to ask bdmurray, pedro, yuriy, txwikinger and the rest of the team for ways to help out. We hope to see you there and your name on the list of bug triagers! Sincerely, ~ Yuriy From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 06:40:58 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:40:58 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487AF4FA.8040900@gmail.com> Brian Parma wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Brian Parma > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Knapp > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brian Parma > > wrote: > > Hey, > > I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I > recently set up a new media box for my TV. Since I didn't > want to run cables across the living room, I decided to give > wireless a try. It's been a long time since I tried to get > wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it > was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the > wireless will go down and then come back up. When the > wireless first goes down, the linux box tries to reconnect > but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it gives up. > When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect > automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on > knetworkmanager, and click on my network it connects fine, > but as this is a media PC I want to be able to remotely > access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and > reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. > > I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days > but I could not find anything specifically addressing this > problem (maybe I'm just bad at searching). All the topics I > found were about automatically connecting on boot (which > works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or > setting that I could use to fix this? > > I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. > > Thanks > > > Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so > often and if not connected then try? > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > I suppose if there's no easier way I could try that (I've never > messed with cron so i'll have to do some reading ). I was just > hoping there was a easy, user-friendly way to do it (it's ubuntu > afterall ). > > > I'm still lost... > > I've looked at some cron stuff, looks easy enough to use, but I can't > seem to find any information on how to check/activate knetworkmanager > using the command line. > > According to nm-tool, my wireless device even detects the wireless > network when it comes online, but it doesn't seem to want to > automatically activate the device. Right clicking on the tray icon and > clicking on the network activates it, but is there a command to activate > it? Or better, a way to make NetworkManager auto-activate it? > what wireless card are you using? There is a known problem with the driver for Intel 3945ABG (I think that is the correct model) that behaves the way you describe. Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 08:18:37 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:18:37 +0200 Subject: Man2 and man3 pages for KUBUNTU 8.04, x86-64 In-Reply-To: <20080713121231.wqgwb9uw00os8ko4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> References: <20080713111344.8kagtwzdicg4kwko@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> <200807131834.30916.kassube@gmx.net> <20080713121231.wqgwb9uw00os8ko4@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Message-ID: 2008/7/13 G. A. Gallup : > Quoting Nils Kassube : > >> G. A. Gallup wrote: >>> I have been unable to find apt-get or adept-installer references >>> for downloading the C-language man2 and man3 pages or the >>> corresponding info pages. /usr/share/man/man2 is empty, and the he >>> present contents of the /usr/share/man/man3 are not man pages. Thanks >>> for any help. >> >> I think you are looking for the package "manpages-dev". >> >> >> Nils > > Thanks, Nils, that has done it. > GAG > perhaps manpages-posix-dev can be of use to? / Jonas From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Mon Jul 14 13:22:43 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:22:43 -0500 Subject: Yum-like package list? Message-ID: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Greeting All, I recently switched to KUBUNTU from FCn and have been quite pleased with the new system. One thing I miss, however, is the yum 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of package names for installation or up-date. Is there an equivalent for this in KUBUNTU? I have found the adept-installer search feature too primitive to be useful. GAG From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jul 14 13:37:39 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:37:39 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807140937.39947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 14 July 2008, G. A. Gallup wrote: > Greeting All, >     I recently switched to KUBUNTU from FCn and have been quite   > pleased with the new system.  One thing I miss, however, is the yum   > 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of package names for   > installation or up-date.  Is there an equivalent for this in KUBUNTU?   > I have found the adept-installer search feature too primitive to be   > useful. > GAG The Adept Package Manager doesn't suit you?? Gee, I came from the SuSE world and I find adept much better (and one heckava lot faster) than Yum. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 13:42:08 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:42:08 +0200 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of package names for aptitude search blah or aptitude search ~d"text in descriptions" (which is the weirdest cli param I have ever seen!) or apt-cache search blah | grep -i something hth \d From tptagth at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 13:48:12 2008 From: tptagth at yahoo.com (B) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <200807140937.39947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm new to Linux. And am using Kubuntu. I've been using the Synaptic Package Manager instead of Adept. I found Synaptic easier. But, now that this email is about Yum and Adept I'd like to confirm that using Synaptic in Kubuntu is OK. Or am I suppose to use Adept with Kubuntu? And while on the subject of package managers; if I've been using Synaptic for a few months could I try Adept or will switching package managers mess up the system? Thank you. Brian --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Bruce Marshall wrote: > From: Bruce Marshall > Subject: Re: Yum-like package list? > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 9:37 AM > On Monday 14 July 2008, G. A. Gallup wrote: > > Greeting All, > >     I recently switched to KUBUNTU from FCn and have > been quite   > > pleased with the new system.  One thing I miss, > however, is the yum   > > 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of > package names for   > > installation or up-date.  Is there an equivalent for > this in KUBUNTU?   > > I have found the adept-installer search feature too > primitive to be   > > useful. > > GAG > > The Adept Package Manager doesn't suit you?? > > Gee, I came from the SuSE world and I find adept much > better (and one heckava > lot faster) than Yum. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From jferrando at netplc.com Mon Jul 14 13:50:46 2008 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:50:46 +0200 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish Message-ID: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> Hi, After today's upgrade to kubuntu hardy (firefox 3.0.1 beta) displays its menus in English in my Spanish Kubuntu computer. Any idea? Should kubuntu support staff better test the upgrades? -- *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 - ext.1021 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 http://www.netplc.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jul 14 13:56:55 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:56:55 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807140956.56106.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 14 July 2008, B wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Linux.  And am using Kubuntu. I've been using the Synaptic > Package Manager instead of Adept.  I found Synaptic easier.   > > But, now that this email is about Yum and Adept I'd like to confirm that > using Synaptic in Kubuntu is OK.  Or am I suppose to use Adept with > Kubuntu? > > And while on the subject of package managers; if I've been using Synaptic > for a few months could I try Adept or will switching package managers mess > up the system? > > Thank you. > > Brian You can use any of the pkg managers without messing things. Adept Synaptic Aptitude Apt-get Dpkg and there's probably more. From philbieber at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 14:00:01 2008 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:00:01 +0200 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <200807140937.39947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0807140700v5f654870xa94bbccd87eb053f@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 15:48, B wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Linux. And am using Kubuntu. I've been using the Synaptic Package Manager instead of Adept. I found Synaptic easier. > > But, now that this email is about Yum and Adept I'd like to confirm that using Synaptic in Kubuntu is OK. Or am I suppose to use Adept with Kubuntu? > > And while on the subject of package managers; if I've been using Synaptic for a few months could I try Adept or will switching package managers mess up the system? > > Thank you. > > Brian Hi Brian! You can use either! Synaptic and Adept are just graphical frontends and both invoke the same programs in the background, namely apt or aptitude. So it doesn't matter if you switch between package managers, you can even use them both at the same time! Cheers! Phil Bieber - -- Warnings from the manual for Layer Express v2 (an AutoCAD extension): Written on Page 12 (Blank page separating Ch. 1 & 2): To reduce the risk of shock, Do not remove the cover of this book. No serviceable components inside. GPG KEY ID (Philipp Bieber): 0x0185E301 FINGERPRINT: CA81 28C2 E63F DAF8 5ED4 DACB 7C26 EE5B 0185 E301 Phil Bieber - philbieber at gmail.com GPG KEY ID (Philipp Bieber Work): 0x3E43576A FINGERPRINT: F043 92A1 2A2C 5256 52A9 DECB A39F B04C 3E43 576A Philipp Bieber - philipp.bieber at gundlach.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iD8DBQFIe1vho5+wTD5DV2oRAqzjAJ0RaBsMQnYv93b8f2P+y2QSzh1NzwCgnwU3 99FfCQUCpOf6GDQG7FZH1ZQ= =aWXe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Mon Jul 14 14:22:52 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:22:52 -0500 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080714092252.03gl1qbbscwc4okg@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> Yes, this works if you know 'blah'. However, my initial install (x86-64) would not run dynamically linked 32-bit apps. Is there any way to know the package name to install is 'ia32-libs'? Google finally told, but I couldn't figure out how to make the KUNBUNTU system tell me this. GAG Quoting Donn : >> 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of package names for > aptitude search blah > or > aptitude search ~d"text in descriptions" > (which is the weirdest cli param I have ever seen!) > > or > apt-cache search blah | grep -i something > > hth > \d From eagles051387 at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 14:24:38 2008 From: eagles051387 at gmail.com (Jon Aquilina) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:24:38 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree Message-ID: im still having issue with version 10 and ff3 where it doesnt even load any videos. -- Jonathan Aquilina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu Mon Jul 14 14:26:42 2008 From: ggallup at unlserve.unl.edu (G. A. Gallup) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:26:42 -0500 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080714092642.xr5bau1s1wgskgsw@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> Synaptic was recommended to me, but it won't run without the gtk libraries. My initial install (x86-64) didn't have them. What is the scheme for finding out the package name here. GAG Quoting B : > Hi, > > I'm new to Linux. And am using Kubuntu. I've been using the > Synaptic Package Manager instead of Adept. I found Synaptic easier. > > But, now that this email is about Yum and Adept I'd like to confirm > that using Synaptic in Kubuntu is OK. Or am I suppose to use Adept > with Kubuntu? > From dcbegaye at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 14:27:03 2008 From: dcbegaye at gmail.com (Daryl Begaye) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:27:03 -0400 Subject: Remaster: Kubuntu 8.04 Message-ID: <225efd590807140727t7acdeca8p602919bbf85be52a@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knows of a proper method of how to make a remaster, the main reason for this remaster is because I downloaded and installed a piece of software, which was a real pain, and I would like to include this software on a live CD which I can give to my boss so he maybe able to use particular software without the pain and torture of having to install it himself. Regards, Daryl -- Daryl Begaye Diné College http://www.dinecollege.edu Major(s): Computer Science and Fine Arts -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Mon Jul 14 14:48:09 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (claydoh) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:48:09 -0400 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish In-Reply-To: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> References: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200807141048.09385.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Monday 14 July 2008 9:50:46 am Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi, > > After today's upgrade to kubuntu hardy (firefox 3.0.1 beta) displays its > menus in English in my Spanish Kubuntu computer. > Any idea? Should kubuntu support staff better test the upgrades? > > -- > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* As the firefox update to 3.0.1 is found in the 'hardy-proposed' repository (the 'pre-release updates' selection in Adept's repository management area, and not enabled by default) they are meant for testing purposes by users before they are made available in the normal repositories. I am guessing the language packages aren't yet built for 3.0.1. This sort of problem is the kind of thing Ubuntu's firefox team is looking for before finalizing the packages for final release. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Jul 14 14:54:12 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:54:12 -0500 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> Message-ID: <487B6894.3080305@swbell.net> On 07/14/2008 G. A. Gallup wrote: > I have found the adept-installer search feature too primitive to be > useful. > GAG I came from OpenSuSE. I find Adept to be at least as good or better than Yast/Yum. I have no problem finding the package I'm looking for. Of course the package has to be in the repositories that you are using. Any search depends on the users input to find something. Ask the wrong question and you get the wrong answer. It might be the right answer for the question, but not what your looking for. -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 14 15:02:16 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:02:16 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Storage Problem Message-ID: <487B6A78.4060508@sbcglobal.net> On a 200gb hard drive, I show 56gb unused space. I was downloading from Ktorrent and it stopped with a warning that drive space was low. I removed an additional 20gb of data (some movies I didn't want anymore) and still it showed out of disk space. I rebooted to see if that would make a difference, but it remained with low disk space. I am able to use the files and the operating system is not crashed. Has anyone had this problem? Steven From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Mon Jul 14 15:17:23 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:17:23 -0700 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish In-Reply-To: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> References: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200807140817.23529.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 14 July 2008 06:50:46 am Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi, > > After today's upgrade to kubuntu hardy (firefox 3.0.1 beta) displays its > menus in English in my Spanish Kubuntu computer. > Any idea? Should kubuntu support staff better test the upgrades? Isn't this program in the hardy-proposed? If you volunteered to get it you ARE one of the volunteer "Kubuntu support staff testers"! Happy testing! :) -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From jferrando at netplc.com Mon Jul 14 15:20:52 2008 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:20:52 +0200 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish In-Reply-To: <200807141048.09385.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> <200807141048.09385.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <487B6ED4.40503@netplc.com> You're right. I have disabled the pre-releases repository and favour stability of my system. claydoh escribió: > On Monday 14 July 2008 9:50:46 am Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After today's upgrade to kubuntu hardy (firefox 3.0.1 beta) displays its >> menus in English in my Spanish Kubuntu computer. >> Any idea? Should kubuntu support staff better test the upgrades? >> >> -- >> *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* >> *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* >> > > As the firefox update to 3.0.1 is found in the 'hardy-proposed' repository > (the 'pre-release updates' selection in Adept's repository management area, > and not enabled by default) > they are meant for testing purposes by users before they are made available in > the normal repositories. I am guessing the language packages aren't yet built > for 3.0.1. This sort of problem is the kind of thing Ubuntu's firefox team > is looking for before finalizing the packages for final release. > > From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Jul 14 15:22:24 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:22:24 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0807140700v5f654870xa94bbccd87eb053f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807140937.39947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <3b27fa9d0807140700v5f654870xa94bbccd87eb053f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807141122.24984.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 July 2008 10:00:01 am Phil Bieber wrote: > You can use either! > Synaptic and Adept are just graphical frontends and both invoke the > same programs in the background, namely apt or aptitude. So it doesn't > matter if you switch between package managers, you can even use them > both at the same time! 1. Do synaptic & adept use apt-get or aptitude? 2. Its best not to mix aptitude and apt-get because aptitude has some package tracking functionality that apt-get does not. As a result, it does a better job of tracking dependencies that are installed with packages and removing them if you remove that package, and no other depends on them. If you mix the two, you may miss some of the benefits of aptitude. 3. You can run aptitude in the ncurses/pseudo-gui mode, or as a straight cli mode. With the latter, aptitude is compatible with the apt-get commands. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSHtvMELG/oYII0YuAQKqegP/dX6s5sRHtwVLuqv2xnPnJ9DYzR8RnvK8 Bwi79HvKdkgmR0tBOC8DM/EwnZEzoHX9mOlTfFLMugcyuFIV2RlCwYw3dM7Qo6m1 V/Qjtnf2FSAcbsuq65ILUmY9KWgC7nOeBnpbIIeT8mH+3FY7yDuwXew4zWUuZl1N tMo+OWW3Xkg= =Cg9b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Jul 14 15:28:50 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:28:50 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <20080714092642.xr5bau1s1wgskgsw@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> References: <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20080714092642.xr5bau1s1wgskgsw@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807141128.50317.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 July 2008 10:26:42 am G. A. Gallup wrote: > Synaptic was recommended to me, but it won't run without the gtk   > libraries.  My initial install (x86-64) didn't have them.  What is the   > scheme for finding out the package name here. the package name is 'synaptic'. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSHtwskLG/oYII0YuAQL8zAP9G5Ib5xxEYXvSKqzb5Thk1+nh+kNhOHDb qc3H0pOZO3CM03lXwxehHNTIPqDk6M0omqefcWov4yVv6Opx57elbGBPSD1DB91p MnjE3IYyU65AcQAj97WYAypCOWyJ30rRRzK/M+NZTQsOICfLsZGI5XmNRLCcZqxH 2CbPaXJ6THw= =R6s8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From execrable at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 15:39:50 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:39:50 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <487AF4FA.8040900@gmail.com> References: <487AF4FA.8040900@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Brian Parma wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Brian Parma > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Knapp > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brian Parma > > > wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I > > recently set up a new media box for my TV. Since I didn't > > want to run cables across the living room, I decided to give > > wireless a try. It's been a long time since I tried to get > > wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it > > was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the > > wireless will go down and then come back up. When the > > wireless first goes down, the linux box tries to reconnect > > but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it gives up. > > When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect > > automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on > > knetworkmanager, and click on my network it connects fine, > > but as this is a media PC I want to be able to remotely > > access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and > > reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. > > > > I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days > > but I could not find anything specifically addressing this > > problem (maybe I'm just bad at searching). All the topics I > > found were about automatically connecting on boot (which > > works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or > > setting that I could use to fix this? > > > > I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so > > often and if not connected then try? > > > > > > -- > > Douglas E Knapp > > > > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > I suppose if there's no easier way I could try that (I've never > > messed with cron so i'll have to do some reading ). I was just > > hoping there was a easy, user-friendly way to do it (it's ubuntu > > afterall ). > > > > > > I'm still lost... > > > > I've looked at some cron stuff, looks easy enough to use, but I can't > > seem to find any information on how to check/activate knetworkmanager > > using the command line. > > > > According to nm-tool, my wireless device even detects the wireless > > network when it comes online, but it doesn't seem to want to > > automatically activate the device. Right clicking on the tray icon and > > clicking on the network activates it, but is there a command to activate > > it? Or better, a way to make NetworkManager auto-activate it? > > > what wireless card are you using? There is a known problem with the > driver for Intel 3945ABG (I think that is the correct model) that > behaves the way you describe. > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > According to nm-tool the driver is rt61pci (EDIMAX EW-7128G card). Again, other than automatically activating when my wireless network goes up (except after booting), everything about the card works just fine. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Jul 14 15:40:10 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:40:10 -0300 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish References: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> <200807140817.23529.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <2345172.H8ERbjeSPV@cedar.serverforest.com> Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday 14 July 2008 06:50:46 am Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: >> Hi, >> >> After today's upgrade to kubuntu hardy (firefox 3.0.1 beta) displays its >> menus in English in my Spanish Kubuntu computer. >> Any idea? Should kubuntu support staff better test the upgrades? > > Isn't this program in the hardy-proposed? If you volunteered to get it > you ARE one of the volunteer "Kubuntu support staff testers"! Happy > testing! :) While essentially true, it seems to me that the upgrade from Gutsy added "hardy-proposed" to my sources, but I might have done it myself :-) In any case, we are _all_ the Kubuntu support staff, and if you don't like that idea, you should really stick to a commercial OS offering. -- derek From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Jul 14 16:03:58 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve C. Lamb) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:03:58 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080714160358.GD1381@dmiyu.org> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 03:42:08PM +0200, Donn wrote: > > 'list' feature to produce a searchable file of package names for > aptitude search blah > or > aptitude search ~d"text in descriptions" > (which is the weirdest cli param I have ever seen!) > or > apt-cache search blah | grep -i something Or just "apt-cache search blah something". apt-cache performs an AND search when presented with multiple keywords on the command line. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 16:07:43 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:07:43 +0200 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <20080714092252.03gl1qbbscwc4okg@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> References: <20080714082243.7habg28pfoogcs4w@wm-imp-2.unl.edu> <200807141542.08857.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <20080714092252.03gl1qbbscwc4okg@wm-imp-3.unl.edu> Message-ID: <200807141807.43392.donn.ingle@gmail.com> My best advice (being ignorant really) is to read the aptitude help manual. Run 'aptitude' from the cli and go to the help menu. There is a tonne of stuff that can be done with search patterns. \d From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Jul 14 16:09:56 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve C. Lamb) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:09:56 -0400 Subject: Yum-like package list? In-Reply-To: <200807141122.24984.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807140937.39947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <124052.68512.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <3b27fa9d0807140700v5f654870xa94bbccd87eb053f@mail.gmail.com> <200807141122.24984.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080714160956.GF1381@dmiyu.org> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:22:24AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote: > 3. You can run aptitude in the ncurses/pseudo-gui mode, or as a straight cli > mode. With the latter, aptitude is compatible with the apt-get commands. Mostly compatible. There are situations where apt-get and aptitude will differ on how to achieve a goal. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From lists at pavri.net Mon Jul 14 16:31:30 2008 From: lists at pavri.net (Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:01:30 +0530 Subject: display error w/ cbtracker on kubuntu 8.04 Message-ID: <20080714163130.GC6059@natrum> I have downloaded cbtracker 1.0b and successfully installed it on kubuntu. The problem is that when I run it, the program window opens but there is no display in the window. The title bar says : Checkbook tracker -- Create a new file or open an existing one. Other that this, except for a fleeting flash of color, there is nothing in the entire window. If I run the cursor in the space under the title bar and click randomly, I get a drop down menu but no words in the buttons, some icons though _are_ visible. I have googled but found nothing. I wrote to the author and he feels it could be a gtk-themes problem. It _is_ a gtk program. Could someone please help ? regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. The word "Checkmate" in chess comes from the Persian phrase "Shah Mat," which means "the king is dead." From ed.lau at mail.ee Mon Jul 14 18:21:07 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:21:07 +0300 Subject: Remaster: Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: <225efd590807140727t7acdeca8p602919bbf85be52a@mail.gmail.com> References: <225efd590807140727t7acdeca8p602919bbf85be52a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487B9913.3010001@mail.ee> > I was wondering if anyone knows of a proper method of how to make a > remaster, the main reason for this remaster is because I downloaded and > installed a piece of software, which was a real pain, and I would like > to include this software on a live CD which I can give to my boss so he > maybe able to use particular software without the pain and torture of > having to install it himself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization http://uck.sourceforge.net/ From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Jul 14 18:27:27 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:27:27 -0400 Subject: Remaster: Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: <487B9913.3010001@mail.ee> References: <225efd590807140727t7acdeca8p602919bbf85be52a@mail.gmail.com> <487B9913.3010001@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200807141427.35576.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 July 2008 2:21:07 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a proper method of how to make a > > remaster, the main reason for this remaster is because I downloaded and > > installed a piece of software, which was a real pain, and I would like > > to include this software on a live CD which I can give to my boss so he > > maybe able to use particular software without the pain and torture of > > having to install it himself. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization > > http://uck.sourceforge.net/ Also take a look at debian live. The components for using it are in the Ubuntu repos. I did it once, a year ago and don't remember the details, except that the whole process was pretty automated. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSHual0LG/oYII0YuAQJzpQQAkhjBSyfxT1N0q5H7nzloVSxu22+F6hL3 MVrWy0N2n0v8Id/g2744gQ++MbuiZWPcDVxVP2KM6kOc93qsEplfuDuowFaLHvlu ZR0+lz8duQoLwjc+kJPYkcQaAQJ04pcJ8YkoiQsQwo0OARiltM1ryHnIdxJ9Xofp aC6cY8/lTts= =w99F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bbales at cox.net Mon Jul 14 18:29:23 2008 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:29:23 -0500 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com> References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local> <200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> On Monday 30 June 2008 15:02:24 John DeCarlo wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Martin Laberge wrote: > > But when the system cant boot and stop in admin mode, it asks for the > > ROOT passwd. > > I believe it is the kernel or the init task who ask for the ROOT passwd > > at this moment. > > As follows: > > > > Root filesystem mounted read only. > > Please enter the root password to enter admin mode or press Ctrl-D to > > continue : > > > > This happened to me once, and I install a password for root from this > > time on. > > I have played around with Ubuntu/Kubuntu for some time. If the system > can't boot - like the boot drive has disappeared (yes, I have messed up > Grub that way), it drops you into single user mode. No root password is > asked for, because there is none. > > So Kubuntu has thought of this already - no issue. I'm a couple of weeks late on this thread, but I don't see where anyone addressed this situation -- trying to look at the result of a mysqlhotcopy. The user is mysql and you, as an ordinary user, are denied access. Using sudo, the machine cannot find the cd command. That is where you really need to be root. bruce at blacky:~/docs$ cd /tmp/class bash: cd: /tmp/class: Permission denied bruce at blacky:~/docs$ sudo cd /tmp/class sudo: cd: command not found bruce at blacky:~/docs$ su Password: root at blacky:/home/bruce/docs# cd /tmp/class root at blacky:/tmp/class# ls -l total 304 -rwxr-xr-x 1 mysql mysql 8876 2008-03-18 14:58 1950all.frm -rwxr-xr-x 1 mysql mysql 43856 2008-03-18 14:58 1950all.MYD -rwxr-xr-x 1 mysql mysql 1024 2008-03-18 14:58 1950all.MYI sudo -i does work in this situation. bruce From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:10:41 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:10:41 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Storage Problem In-Reply-To: <487B6A78.4060508@sbcglobal.net> References: <487B6A78.4060508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <487BA4B1.7020907@gmail.com> Steven Vollom said the following at 07/14/2008 09:02 AM : > On a 200gb hard drive, I show 56gb unused space. I was downloading from > Ktorrent and it stopped with a warning that drive space was low. I > removed an additional 20gb of data (some movies I didn't want anymore) > and still it showed out of disk space. I rebooted to see if that would > make a difference, but it remained with low disk space. I am able to > use the files and the operating system is not crashed. Has anyone had > this problem? > Steven > How big was the file that you were trying to download? KTorrent used to have a problem (and maybe it still does) downloading files larger than 4GB. I believe that the error you described was exactly the failure mode I received when I discovered that KTorrent had this 4GB limit. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From walter.kerkhofs at scarlet.be Mon Jul 14 21:14:13 2008 From: walter.kerkhofs at scarlet.be (Walter Kerkhofs) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:14:13 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu issues In-Reply-To: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> References: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807142314.14055.walter.kerkhofs@scarlet.be> Op Sunday 13 July 2008 04:42:30 schreef John Nielsen: > Hi all > Well I have what I imagine to be the lastest version of Kubuntu and it > was going well right up unitl the point I did an update....then as > indicated I reebooted the poota...and got to the log in screen...put in > the password that I'd used before and it re looped to the log in screen. > > I've re set the password still the same thing happens. > > So what do I do next? > > Growing frustration > > John N Hi John, I have the same problem as you, it happend after the update of kde 4 in march. (I think it was kde 4.0.2) And i still have no solution for it. All I do now is when kdm comes up I choose the console login option in the dropdown menu. And in the console I can use my password, and fire up x with startx. I would like too have it fixed because now I can only use kde 3.5.x. Thanks in advance. Walter Kerkhofs -- www.kubuntu.org From jeff_barish at earthlink.net Tue Jul 15 00:47:30 2008 From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (Jeffrey Barish) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:47:30 -0600 Subject: No automount for USB devices Message-ID: Since I installed 8.04, connecting a USB memory device (such as a music player) does not trigger an automount. I used to get a dialog confirming the action I want to take and then an icon on my desktop. Now nothing happens. I found Storage Media in Control Center. For medium type unmounted removable medium, the action is open in new window (auto action). Seems like the right thing. Any idea what's wrong? -- Jeffrey Barish From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 06:29:20 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:29:20 +0200 Subject: No automount for USB devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807150829.20695.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Tuesday, 15 July 2008 02:47:30 Jeffrey Barish wrote: > Since I installed 8.04, connecting a USB memory device (such as a music > player) does not trigger an automount. I used to get a dialog confirming Eek! I hope it's not a problem with drivers being left out of Hardy or something wrong with your hardware. You can get an idea of what's going on by using: dmesg Type that on the command line and scroll around looking for usb messages. Plug in your device and then type it. I get stuff like this: [186163.592000] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 [186163.724000] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [186163.724000] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [186163.724000] usb-storage: device found at 5 [186163.724000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [186168.724000] usb-storage: device scan complete [186171.800000] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access T.sonic 310 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [186171.800000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] 2039296 512-byte hardware sectors (1044 MB) [186171.804000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [186171.804000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [186171.804000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [186171.808000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] 2039296 512-byte hardware sectors (1044 MB) [186171.812000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [186171.812000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [186171.812000] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [186171.812000] sda: sda1 Which shows the device ends up on /dev/sda1, if you get stuff like this then there's a chance things can be fixed. If not then your system is plain not seeing the usb. hthal, \d From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 09:35:44 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:35:44 +0200 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <626640da0807131134p2b476e47qaa1742afe68524f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E1773.2000401@gmail.com> <486E326E.5090507@sbcglobal.net> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> <626640da0807131134p2b476e47qaa1742afe68524f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487C6F70.10303@gmail.com> Hello everybody Thanks for all the useful input so far in this thread! > I'm interest to buy a "netbook" too, I have been decided for the VIA > openbook that it's a open design, what do you think about this model? > for specifications : here > > With interest I have taken a look at the website www.viaopenbook.com It looks like a kind of Open Source design model, made under the so-called 'creative commons' license. Most of the technical specifications look perfectly acceptable to me. (See viaopenbook.com, click at 'specifications.) However, I have questions about two major items amongst them. The main data storage medium is an 80 GB 'Hard Disk' (HD). To which extend is that one 'shock proof'? The battery has the following specs: 4 Cells, 2600ma. How much time 'autonomous battery life' do they have? Finally - is there already anybody who has practical experience with 'Via OpenBook' in combination with Kubuntu? Respectfully Yours, Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 09:57:24 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:57:24 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu issues In-Reply-To: <200807142314.14055.walter.kerkhofs@scarlet.be> References: <48796B96.7070705@gmail.com> <200807142314.14055.walter.kerkhofs@scarlet.be> Message-ID: <200807150557.24602.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Have you tried re-installing kdm? You might also want to uninstall kdm-kde4. You can still get to kde4 from the command line with startx /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde Paul On Monday 14 July 2008 5:14:13 pm Walter Kerkhofs wrote: > Op Sunday 13 July 2008 04:42:30 schreef John Nielsen: > > Hi all > > Well I have what I imagine to be the lastest version of Kubuntu and it > > was going well right up unitl the point I did an update....then as > > indicated I reebooted the poota...and got to the log in screen...put in > > the password that I'd used before and it re looped to the log in screen. > > > > I've re set the password still the same thing happens. > > > > So what do I do next? > > > > Growing frustration > > > > John N > > Hi John, > > I have the same problem as you, it happend after the update of kde 4 in > march. (I think it was kde 4.0.2) > And i still have no solution for it. > All I do now is when kdm comes up I choose the console login option in the > dropdown menu. > And in the console I can use my password, and fire up x with startx. > > I would like too have it fixed because now I can only use kde 3.5.x. > > Thanks in advance. > > Walter Kerkhofs > > -- > www.kubuntu.org From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 13:02:20 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:02:20 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <071520081302.9690.487C9FDC0004C2CF000025DA2207020953CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> I noticed the other day that the "Important security updates" box in the Update tab for managing the repositories in Adept was not checked. In fact, I couldn't check it; whenever I release the mouse button, it becomes unchecked. I had a 3rd party repository enabled (security.ubuntu.com), but unchecking or removing it didn't solve the problem. Can anyone tell me what's happening and how to correct? Paul From juankawada at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 14:47:02 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:47:02 -0600 Subject: Flashplugin-nonfree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jon next time you may want to start another thread to avoid hijacking. Also, what videos does it not play? Install the adobe flash plugin mentioned above. Also, Install VLC, and the VLC mozilla plugin. I can't get the exact name of the packages now though, as I'm at work. just search vlc in adept. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Jon Aquilina wrote: > im still having issue with version 10 and ff3 where it doesnt even load any > videos. > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slewin at bmts.com Tue Jul 15 16:29:52 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:29:52 -0400 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg Message-ID: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Hi, Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly mpeg) to one of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From temps.jo at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 16:36:56 2008 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:36:56 +0200 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: Hi, I use kino you can see here "how to" http://the-time.blogspot.com/2008/03/flv2mpeg.html 2008/7/15 Scott : > Hi, > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly mpeg) to > one > of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion > JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdshaw89 at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 16:41:58 2008 From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:41:58 -0400 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: Take a look at mplayer. I know mplayer can convert avi to mpeg, so the reverse should be true. I did a quick scan of this but could not find anything directly: http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/ Good luck, Mike Shaw On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Scott wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly mpeg) to > one > of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion > JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion >> JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. >> >> -- >> Your friend, >> Scott >> >> Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > > -- > Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks" > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not quite sure about the command line argument you would use for that but Google is your friend for more information. -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk From slewin at bmts.com Tue Jul 15 17:17:03 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:17:03 -0400 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <200807151756.12630.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> <200807151756.12630.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <487CDB8F.2070604@bmts.com> Thank you for your suggestions, but I have tried Kino and even though it supports many formats, it is not able to export in motion jpeg (mjpeg) format. I think it is the movie format generated by generic still cameras. I'm starting to think it may be best for me to go out and buy a DVD player that can read mpeg videos. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 17:46:01 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:46:01 +0200 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/15 joris abadie : > Hi, > I use kino > you can see here "how to" > > http://the-time.blogspot.com/2008/03/flv2mpeg.html > Hi! My impression is that Kino only works with DV videos? Can you really import a mpeg video in Kino and then export them as Motion JPEG AVI or Qt as the OP want? I don't understand french but as far as i get it that link says nothing about "how to" do it in Kino. / Jonas From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Tue Jul 15 18:28:17 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:28:17 +0100 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: <20080715192817.58ae215a@rocker-desktop> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:29:52 -0400 Scott wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly > mpeg) to one of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays > Quicktime (motion JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > Kubuntu won't natively run Quicktime as it is closed proprietary format, but if you sign up for Crossover Office, you'll be able to run the Quicktime player on your system. To get AVI files played on the Kubuntu system, you'll need to install the vlc player, and then wincodecs package from the restricted repositories. Or at least I THINK thats what I did....... -- Graham Todd From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 15 18:31:36 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:31:36 -0400 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807151431.47438.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Use avidemux as a GUI front end to mplayer/mencoder. On Tuesday 15 July 2008 12:41:58 pm Mike Shaw wrote: > Take a look at mplayer. I know mplayer can convert avi to mpeg, so the > reverse should be true. I did a quick scan of this but could not find > anything directly: > > http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/ > > Good luck, > > Mike Shaw > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Scott wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly mpeg) to > > one > > of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion > > JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > > > > -- > > Your friend, > > Scott > > > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSHztE0LG/oYII0YuAQLfYgQAjlVZtV/dbQARQgjhmCfFKHltbolTcLME 4cCTTDcpHDPLLTMVr33p6EduOpWAV0W6QSywpgTQ4DUUFXwXqTCQRFdoeKu4sDEO CL4DZI4M1BjFwC8qmfbqh6Sjm7qOzwHlgxupBARqfijx5RXjNYjMypn6v0SJiZ2X G4ehLfwDM6w= =CLoc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lists at ptfd.org Tue Jul 15 19:32:45 2008 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:32:45 -0400 Subject: OT Openoffice Calc forgot password recovery? Message-ID: <200807151532.45872.lists@ptfd.org> I know this is OT but anyone else ever forget a password in a complex calc document and need to recover it. Or just disable the password? I found a commercial product that claims to do it but it is $29.95 and NOT Open Source..... Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Chief Porter Fire Department Powered by Kubunty Hardy 8.04, KDE-4.1 beta http://kubuntu.org From teeahr1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 19:37:54 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:37:54 -0500 Subject: Errors upgrading to 4.1 rc Message-ID: <200807151437.54272.teeahr1@gmail.com> Is anyone else getting this today? Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 (using .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kde-icons-oxygen ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions/appointment-new.png', which is also in package libkdepim4-kde4 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) At which point kdebase-runtime gives up because it depends on kde-icons- oxygen, and everything behind it falls down too. -p. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slewin at bmts.com Tue Jul 15 19:51:44 2008 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:51:44 -0400 Subject: Website monitoring tool Message-ID: <487CFFD0.1040002@bmts.com> Hi, is there any programs that can check my website every few minutes to see if it is working and have something like a pop up when my site goes down. I am using a free web host that goes down every now and then and would like alerts on my desktop when this happens. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 8.04 From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 15 19:57:29 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:57:29 -0400 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <20080715192817.58ae215a@rocker-desktop> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> <20080715192817.58ae215a@rocker-desktop> Message-ID: <200807151557.51780.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 15 July 2008 2:28:17 pm Graham Todd wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:29:52 -0400 > > Scott wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly > > mpeg) to one of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays > > Quicktime (motion JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > > Kubuntu won't natively run Quicktime as it is closed proprietary > format, but if you sign up for Crossover Office, you'll be able to run > the Quicktime player on your system. > > To get AVI files played on the Kubuntu system, you'll need to install > the vlc player, and then wincodecs package from the restricted > repositories. Or at least I THINK thats what I did....... > Either I am missing something, or the opposite, I have something, but kaffeine has played Quicktime (MOV) video and (AAC/m4a) audio for as long as I can remember. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSH0BP0LG/oYII0YuAQJs3QQAswMrcFVgktQ+Tny9rjJV74aHDBcaqCeO rGKRzeNsr+H5qhCVu0qm+GB0apV4tZlwRSoIwRoGPoX53YDF9iyeooFWPfhV+1YF f3DoS1bTSvxClma7EI9esEC0/etuvuYxGIwJWevOlCdgeVd2Z3YY5S7kX1Kay+Fo 7eEcGDWQ9pk= =JcuY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Jul 15 20:07:45 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:07:45 -0400 Subject: Website monitoring tool In-Reply-To: <487CFFD0.1040002@bmts.com> References: <487CFFD0.1040002@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200807151607.45899.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Scott wrote: > Hi, > >         is there any programs that can check my website every few minutes > to see if it is working and have something like a pop up when my site goes > down.  I am using a free web host that goes down every now and then and > would like alerts on my desktop when this happens. I would think you could write a script using wget. Check for something retrieved (or not). If not, raise a flag. From teeahr1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 20:43:12 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:43:12 -0500 Subject: Errors upgrading to 4.1 rc In-Reply-To: <200807151437.54272.teeahr1@gmail.com> References: <200807151437.54272.teeahr1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807151543.12809.teeahr1@gmail.com> On Tuesday July 15 2008 14:37:54 you wrote: > Is anyone else getting this today? > > > Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 > *snip* Never mind, it seems to be solved now. -p. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In kde 3.5.x the layout is fine. Walte Kerkhofs -- www.kubuntu.org From john.j35 at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 22:11:47 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:11:47 -0500 Subject: .ICEauthority file permissions Message-ID: Hello list! I have been using redhat/fedora for quite some time and now that I have switched to kubuntu I have found my distro of choice. One small problem though. I used to ssh into all of the machines on my local network and run yum update from the command line and apt-get update does not actually update the programs it just fetches the packages. If I run adept_updater from the shell with sudo then it changes the ownership of the .DCOP* and .ICEauthority file and my local user account then fails. Any thoughts would be helpful -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From paul at lemmons.name Tue Jul 15 22:25:37 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:25:37 -0700 Subject: .ICEauthority file permissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487D23E1.1050007@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: .ICEauthority file permissions From: "John Pierce" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Date: 07/15/2008 03:11 PM > Hello list! > > I have been using redhat/fedora for quite some time and now that I > have switched to kubuntu > I have found my distro of choice. > > One small problem though. > > I used to ssh into all of the machines on my local network and run yum > update from the command line > and apt-get update does not actually update the programs it just > fetches the packages. > > If I run adept_updater from the shell with sudo then it changes the > ownership of the .DCOP* and .ICEauthority file > and my local user account then fails. > > Any thoughts would be helpful > I ran into this the other day. assuming your userid is "john": sudo chown john:john ~/.ICEauthority That should get you back in business then: aptitude update To re-read the repositories and "update" local catalog of updates aptitude safe-upgrade To perform "safe" updates aptitude full-upgrade To perform las safe updates aptitude clean To clean up cache I use aptitude instead of apt because it is smarter about reporting conflicts and offers solutions. I don't really know the differentiating factors that make an update "safe" or not. I do the two step process, though, because someone somewhere (probably smarter than me) thought to mark an update differently than "safe". -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From temps.jo at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 22:26:42 2008 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:26:42 +0200 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: Sorry for my poor English, I use kino every day in my job, If you make the "How to" you can get every thing in DV, and export in mpeg. kino is very easy to use. In mpeg with iriverter you convert in avi 2008/7/15 Jonas Norlander : > 2008/7/15 joris abadie : > > Hi, > > I use kino > > you can see here "how to" > > > > http://the-time.blogspot.com/2008/03/flv2mpeg.html > > > > Hi! > > My impression is that Kino only works with DV videos? Can you really > import a mpeg video in Kino and then export them as Motion JPEG AVI or > Qt as the OP want? I don't understand french but as far as i get it > that link says nothing about "how to" do it in Kino. > > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope it's not a problem with drivers being left out of Hardy or > something wrong with your hardware. > > You can get an idea of what's going on by using: > dmesg I don't think it's drivers. dmesg says: [506197.026853] usb-storage: device found at 18 [506197.026859] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [506202.017403] usb-storage: device scan complete [506202.018764] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic STORAGE DEVICE 9228 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 [506205.094846] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk [506205.094925] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 I tried mounting /dev/sdc, but I get "No medium found". -- Jeffrey Barish From lists at sequestered.net Wed Jul 16 00:53:39 2008 From: lists at sequestered.net (Jay Chandler) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:39 -0700 Subject: Website monitoring tool In-Reply-To: <487CFFD0.1040002@bmts.com> References: <487CFFD0.1040002@bmts.com> Message-ID: <15220FBA-0886-4A7F-A9CB-84C2A4EE9C3D@sequestered.net> On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Scott wrote: > Hi, > > is there any programs that can check my website every few minutes to > see if it is working and have something like a pop up when my site > goes > down. I am using a free web host that goes down every now and then > and > would like alerts on my desktop when this happens. I'm a fan of Nagios, though it requires some pretty gnarly configuration at times. It emails by default, though you could set it to trigger a window event fairly easily. --Jay From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Wed Jul 16 03:31:13 2008 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo El Feo) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:31:13 -0300 Subject: .ICEauthority file permissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807160031.13761.plberd-kubuntu@yahoo.com.ar> Try apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade update, update the package db, and upgrade downloads and upgrades all your installed but upgradable packages. El Tuesday 15 July 2008 19:11:47 John Pierce escribió: > Hello list! > > I have been using redhat/fedora for quite some time and now that I > have switched to kubuntu > I have found my distro of choice. > > One small problem though. > > I used to ssh into all of the machines on my local network and run yum > update from the command line > and apt-get update does not actually update the programs it just > fetches the packages. > > If I run adept_updater from the shell with sudo then it changes the > ownership of the .DCOP* and .ICEauthority file > and my local user account then fails. > > Any thoughts would be helpful > > -- > John > Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at > http://counter.li.org From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Jul 16 05:26:01 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:26:01 +0300 Subject: Converting video to Motion jpeg In-Reply-To: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> References: <487CD080.6070602@bmts.com> Message-ID: <487D8669.3070609@rmk.co.il> Scott wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know any program that converts video (mostly mpeg) to one > of the formats the Wii can play? The Wii only plays Quicktime (motion > JPEG) format or the AVI (Motion JPEG) format. > Try ffmpeg it is a command line app but very powerful. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From suse-linux at rwz.de Wed Jul 16 07:30:43 2008 From: suse-linux at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:30:43 +0200 Subject: audacious not playing any audiofile In-Reply-To: <20080709165611.d2e9a62a.suse-linux@rwz.de> References: <20080709165611.d2e9a62a.suse-linux@rwz.de> Message-ID: <20080716093043.c05ddec6.suse-linux@rwz.de> > > on my kubuntu 8.04.1 audacious is not playing any audiofile. > I've tried to run my mp3s with amarok and it works. Also > audacity is playing mp3s. > Changed the audiooutput from Pulse to Arts - and now it works. -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 07:36:59 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:36:59 +0200 Subject: No automount for USB devices In-Reply-To: References: <200807150829.20695.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/16 Jeffrey Barish : > Donn wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 15 July 2008 02:47:30 Jeffrey Barish wrote: >>> Since I installed 8.04, connecting a USB memory device (such as a music >>> player) does not trigger an automount. I used to get a dialog confirming >> Eek! I hope it's not a problem with drivers being left out of Hardy or >> something wrong with your hardware. >> >> You can get an idea of what's going on by using: >> dmesg > > I don't think it's drivers. dmesg says: > > [506197.026853] usb-storage: device found at 18 > [506197.026859] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning > [506202.017403] usb-storage: device scan complete > [506202.018764] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic STORAGE DEVICE > 9228 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 > [506205.094846] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk > [506205.094925] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 > > I tried mounting /dev/sdc, but I get "No medium found". > -- > Jeffrey Barish > hi! Ether you didn't pasted the whole output or there is something wrong. There is no output about the size of the media or any partitions like in Donns. In most case you don't mount /dev/sdc there should be a /dev/sdc1 partition you mount instead. Do you have a /dev/sdc1 device? / Jonas From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 08:04:19 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:04:19 +0200 Subject: No automount for USB devices In-Reply-To: References: <200807150829.20695.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807161004.20029.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Jeffrey, > [506197.026853] usb-storage: device found at 18 > [506197.026859] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning > [506202.017403] usb-storage: device scan complete > [506202.018764] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic STORAGE DEVICE > 9228 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 > [506205.094846] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk > [506205.094925] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 > > I tried mounting /dev/sdc, but I get "No medium found". Yeah -- this sounds like your usb stick/thing has no filesystem or partitions... If you don't mind experimenting with it then you can create those. If it's a music player the chances are it expects a FAT16 (msdos) file system. If it's a memory stick that you want to use only with Linux (and maybe Mac) then you can go with an ext3 file system. *Beware* You can toast your usb device if you don't research it and work carefully. I have one stick that I killed that way ;) Try these: 1. At the command line type [fdisk -l /dev/sdc] Here's an example from my pc: Disk /dev/hdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xbfbaecdd Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1 60801 488384001 83 Linux This shows an ext3 (83) fs on my drive - one big partition. 2. You can create a partition by using fdisk (try man fdisk) -- I don't have time right now to explain further. 3. After that you create a fs by [mkfs.msdos] or [mkfs.ext3] on the sdc1 device that will exists after fdisk does it's job. IHTH, a bit rushed, sorry, \d From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 10:32:28 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:32:28 +0200 Subject: kdm login background Message-ID: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing happens when I log out and back in.... Anyone have any idea as to why? Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 10:54:16 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:54:16 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/16 O. Sinclair : > Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the > login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite > giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing > happens when I log out and back in.... > > Anyone have any idea as to why? > > Sinclair Hi! And have you restarted KDM/X? / Jonas From girardhenri at free.fr Wed Jul 16 13:23:14 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:23:14 +0200 Subject: update Message-ID: <1216214594.6753.4.camel@ai> Hi Since 2 days it's impossible to update hardy with kde4.1, i got this message : dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `! queuelen' failed. any help ? From jeff_barish at earthlink.net Wed Jul 16 14:31:28 2008 From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (Jeffrey Barish) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:31:28 -0600 Subject: No automount for USB devices References: <200807150829.20695.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807161004.20029.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Donn wrote: > Jeffrey, >> [506197.026853] usb-storage: device found at 18 >> [506197.026859] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning >> [506202.017403] usb-storage: device scan complete >> [506202.018764] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic STORAGE DEVICE >> 9228 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 >> [506205.094846] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk >> [506205.094925] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 >> >> I tried mounting /dev/sdc, but I get "No medium found". > Yeah -- this sounds like your usb stick/thing has no filesystem or > partitions... If you don't mind experimenting with it then you can create > those. > > If it's a music player the chances are it expects a FAT16 (msdos) file > system. If it's a memory stick that you want to use only with Linux (and > maybe Mac) then you can go with an ext3 file system. The memory cards come from devices (a camera and a music player) in which they work fine, so they do have a filesystem on them. They have data on them that I need, so I can't reformat them. There is no /dev/sdc1. I found a memory card that mostly works. It triggers the query as to which application I want to use, I wind up with /dev/sdc1 mounted on /media/disk, but I do not get an icon on the desktop. Ah, you know what it is? One of my card readers does not support the 4GB SD cards I am using. I restarted the desktop. The next time I plugged in the card reader, I got a message that ~/Desktop was not a directory (although it was). I allowed KDE to create a new ~/Desktop, at which point I did get an icon for the flash drive. All problems solved. Thanks for the support. -- Jeffrey Barish From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 16 14:56:51 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:56:51 -0300 Subject: .ICEauthority file permissions References: Message-ID: <1570022.TJBjU2Lohx@cedar.serverforest.com> John Pierce wrote: > Hello list! > > I have been using redhat/fedora for quite some time and now that I > have switched to kubuntu > I have found my distro of choice. > > One small problem though. > > I used to ssh into all of the machines on my local network and run yum > update from the command line > and apt-get update does not actually update the programs it just > fetches the packages. No, it doesn't even do that. It updates the _list_ of available packages. You need to use "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" (or "full-upgrade", depending. Read the man pages!). > If I run adept_updater from the shell with sudo then it changes the > ownership of the .DCOP* and .ICEauthority file > and my local user account then fails. Naturally. NEVER use sudo for GUI programs unless you know what you're doing. Use kdesu (admittedly, if you run it without, you'll see it says "use kdesu or sudo" - file a bug). -- derek From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Wed Jul 16 15:12:35 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:12:35 -0700 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Wednesday 16 July 2008 03:32:28 am O. Sinclair wrote: > Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the > login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite > giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing > happens when I log out and back in.... > > Anyone have any idea as to why? Well, it could be the same problem my associate pastor had on his new 1525n; he was changing the backgrounds in kdm but his machine was using gdm for the login!! What does your current screen look like? -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 16 15:44:09 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:44:09 -0400 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> Pastor JW wrote: > On Wednesday 16 July 2008 03:32:28 am O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the >> login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite >> giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing >> happens when I log out and back in.... >> >> Anyone have any idea as to why? >> > > Well, it could be the same problem my associate pastor had on his new 1525n; > he was changing the backgrounds in kdm but his machine was using gdm for the > login!! What does your current screen look like? > > > This is probably silly to ask, but did you click on 'Apply'? From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 17:12:24 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:12:24 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807161912.24859.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 16 July 2008 12:32:28 O. Sinclair wrote: > Anyone have any idea as to why? I think you need kcontrol to do that. At least it was like that some time ago. -- lanzen From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed Jul 16 18:12:24 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:12:24 +0200 Subject: KDE4 RC, file permissions Message-ID: <200807162012.24292.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I've installed kde4 RC1 and ran into some problems... I needed to change the file permissions for .ICEauthority and plasmarc to (karl karl) to be able to start properly. Are there other file to check or will my pc complain if something is wrong? Karl, From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 18:15:34 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:15:34 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Pastor JW wrote: >> On Wednesday 16 July 2008 03:32:28 am O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the >>> login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite >>> giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing >>> happens when I log out and back in.... >>> >>> Anyone have any idea as to why? >>> >> Well, it could be the same problem my associate pastor had on his new 1525n; >> he was changing the backgrounds in kdm but his machine was using gdm for the >> login!! What does your current screen look like? >> >> >> > This is probably silly to ask, but did you click on 'Apply'? > yes I did - but all of a sudden things DID change after a couple of reboots... gremlins in the computer I guess. Thanks for all assistance, Sinclair From gloonie at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 00:24:51 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (gloonie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Errors upgrading to 4.1 rc Message-ID: <18480297.post@talk.nabble.com> I just got this error as well. Now update to libkdepim4-kde4 won't run. Anyone know if we have to delete/reinstall anything to get kmail back? Bugzilla from teeahr1 at gmail.com wrote: > > Is anyone else getting this today? > > > Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 (using > .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb) ... > Unpacking replacement kde-icons-oxygen ... > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite > `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions/appointment-new.png', > which is > also in package libkdepim4-kde4 > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > At which point kdebase-runtime gives up because it depends on kde-icons- > oxygen, and everything behind it falls down too. > > > -p. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Errors-upgrading-to-4.1-rc-tp18473255p18480297.html Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From teeahr1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 01:06:23 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:06:23 -0500 Subject: Errors upgrading to 4.1 rc In-Reply-To: <18480297.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <18480297.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <200807162006.23721.teeahr1@gmail.com> Sorry, I should have posted this earlier. What finally resolved my problem was running "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/archives/PACKAGENAMEHERE". Before you do that though, what are the exact errors you're getting? -p. On Wednesday July 16 2008 19:24:51 gloonie wrote: > I just got this error as well. Now update to libkdepim4-kde4 won't run. > Anyone know if we have to delete/reinstall anything to get kmail back? > > Bugzilla from teeahr1 at gmail.com wrote: > > Is anyone else getting this today? > > > > > > Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 > > (using .../kde-icons- oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb) ... > > Unpacking replacement kde-icons-oxygen ... > > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- > > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): > > trying to overwrite > > `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions/appointment- new.png', > > which is > > also in package libkdepim4-kde4 > > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- > > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > > > At which point kdebase-runtime gives up because it depends on kde-icons- > > oxygen, and everything behind it falls down too. > > > > > > -p. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Errors-upgrading-to-4.1-rc- tp18473255p18480297.html > Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gloonie at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 01:24:49 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (gloonie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Errors upgrading to 4.1 rc In-Reply-To: <200807162006.23721.teeahr1@gmail.com> References: <200807151437.54272.teeahr1@gmail.com> <18480297.post@talk.nabble.com> <200807162006.23721.teeahr1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18499846.post@talk.nabble.com> With today's upgrade, the update went through and resolved the problem. Hope this is the same for everybody! I'm not sure which upgrade did it, though. Glenn Bugzilla from teeahr1 at gmail.com wrote: > > Sorry, I should have posted this earlier. What finally resolved my problem > was running "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite > /var/cache/archives/PACKAGENAMEHERE". Before you do that though, > what are the exact errors you're getting? > > -p. > > On Wednesday July 16 2008 19:24:51 gloonie wrote: >> I just got this error as well. Now update to libkdepim4-kde4 won't run. >> Anyone know if we have to delete/reinstall anything to get kmail back? >> >> Bugzilla from teeahr1 at gmail.com wrote: >> > Is anyone else getting this today? >> > >> > >> > Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen > 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa5 >> > (using .../kde-icons- > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb) ... >> > Unpacking replacement kde-icons-oxygen ... >> > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- >> > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): >> > trying to overwrite >> > `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions/appointment- > new.png', >> > which is >> > also in package libkdepim4-kde4 >> > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) >> > Errors were encountered while processing: >> > /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons- >> > oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb >> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) >> > >> > >> > At which point kdebase-runtime gives up because it depends on > kde-icons- >> > oxygen, and everything behind it falls down too. >> > >> > >> > -p. >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Errors-upgrading-to-4.1-rc- > tp18473255p18480297.html >> Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Errors-upgrading-to-4.1-rc-tp18473255p18499846.html Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From girardhenri at free.fr Thu Jul 17 05:59:06 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:59:06 +0200 Subject: qt4.4 designer crashes ! Message-ID: <1216274346.10228.2.camel@ai> Hi I can't use anymore qt4.4 hardy (ppa) it crashes as soon as it starts ! i tried to downgrade but got the same problem ? any help ? regards Henri From dgvirtual at akl.lt Thu Jul 17 06:03:42 2008 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:03:42 +0300 Subject: cpu policy through a notebook special key? Message-ID: <200807170903.42649.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Is it possible to control my notebook cpu policy through a special notebook key? Like it is in windows on my Asus A8F laptop? There is this special key with a running man painted that, upon press, emits acpi signal: dg at bala:/etc/acpi/events$ acpi_listen hotkey ATKD 0000005c 00000000 (it does not generate an x event though) In windows it is used to set a power scheme (there are about five of those, if I am correct) Now in my Kubuntu 8.04 installation this key is left idle, although KDE guidance power manager does have three cpu profiles: performance, dynamic and powersave. Is it possible to employ this key to switch between different cpu policies, without changing the power manager? (I remember the KPowerSave program could do that, when I used it two years ago). Donatas From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Thu Jul 17 17:29:46 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:29:46 +0200 Subject: KDE4.1 RC1 Laptopkeys Message-ID: <200807171929.46725.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I recently installed KDE4.1 RC1. On my KDE3.5.9, my laptop keys worked perfectly. in KDE4 this isn't the case... Is there a place to re-enable this or is this a beta bug? Thx for the help. Karl From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Thu Jul 17 19:57:59 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:57:59 +0200 Subject: KDE4 Lost memory Message-ID: <200807172157.59781.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, Each time i reboot my pc it comes back to the same state. It doesn't remember my wallpapersettings, plamoids i use, buttons i added to the taskbar... What can be the cause of this? Regards, K From valtermura at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 20:11:05 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:11:05 +0200 Subject: No network after suspension Message-ID: <200807172211.05508.valtermura@gmail.com> Hi All, when I resume after a suspension the system loses the "line". I have a LAN, that's to say the comp is connected to Internet by an adsl modem through a LAN cable. this is strange, because before last main release (8.04) my system worked well... -- Valter Gnupgp ID: 0xD7274715 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 21:17:25 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:17:25 +0000 Subject: Power manager Message-ID: <071720082117.7397.487FB6E50005196300001CE52207003201CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> What is the equivalent of (KDE 3.5.9) Power manager for KDE 4.1? It isn't obvious how one would configure a laptop to go to suspend mode when the lid is shut or hibernate when the power gets down to a set level. Paul From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 21:28:34 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:28:34 +0000 Subject: kde 4.1 config issues Message-ID: <071720082128.4744.487FB982000B358D000012882200762302CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> I'm having inconsistencies between some apps on different laptops both with KDE 4.1. One example is that knetworkmanager (3.5.9) appears in the system tray on one machine, but not the other. Similarly, I can't get smb4k to go to the system tray on one machine although it will launch as an application and seems to work OK. A different example (in this case the problem is the opposite machine) is that the panel clock on one machine is only as wide as it needs to be to see the digits displaying the time, where as on the other machine the clock takes up a lot of space judging from how close the nearest widget can be placed. I've tried deleting ~/.kde4, but it doesn't seem to solve the problem on either machine; the behavior is consistent on the machine where the problem was first noted, so the problem lies outside ~/.kde4 I'm at a loss as to how to fix or trouble shoot. Any ideas? Paul From paul at lemmons.name Thu Jul 17 23:11:24 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:11:24 -0700 Subject: Wireless problems Intel 4965agn Message-ID: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> I posted on the ubuntu forums but most of my best answers come from here :) I just got a new laptop : Lenovo T61 completely tricked out including an Intel 4965agn wireless card. I am having a devil of a time getting it to work. It fails to connect to anything and once it does that it no longer scans for networks, leaving network-manager very empty looking. Are any of you experiencing any success with this card? Did you have to do any vodo to make it work? I am fresh out of dead chickens to wave over it but it that is what it takes I will be looking for a farm... -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 17 23:33:35 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:33:35 -0400 Subject: Wireless problems Intel 4965agn In-Reply-To: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> References: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200807171933.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 17 July 2008, Paul Lemmons wrote: > I just got a new laptop : Lenovo T61 completely tricked out including an > Intel 4965agn wireless card. I am having a devil of a time getting it to > work. It fails to connect to anything and once it does that it no longer > scans for networks, leaving network-manager very empty looking. I assume this isn't really a 'card' but is built-in? I think I have a 4965xxx in my Toshiba that is working ok. How about doing a hwinfo --wlan and posting the result. I'll do the same and check what I have. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 17 23:53:03 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:53:03 -0400 Subject: Wireless problems Intel 4965agn In-Reply-To: <200807171933.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> <200807171933.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200807171953.03622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 17 July 2008, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2008, Paul Lemmons wrote: > > I just got a new laptop : Lenovo T61 completely tricked out including an > > Intel 4965agn wireless card. I am having a devil of a time getting it to > > work. It fails to connect to anything and once it does that it no longer > > scans for networks, leaving network-manager very empty looking. > > I assume this isn't really a 'card' but is built-in? > > I think I have a 4965xxx in my Toshiba that is working ok. > > How about doing a hwinfo --wlan and posting the result. > > I'll do the same and check what I have. Below is the hwinfo for my wlan. Note that the module being used is: iwl4965 You should have a similar module in use. 04: PCI 800.0: 0282 WLAN controller [Created at pci.296] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4229 Unique ID: y9sn.dFdMEvTRjP5 Parent ID: HnsE.6tejkoUeUmF SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:08:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:08:00.0 Hardware Class: network Model: "Intel WLAN controller" Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" Device: pci 0x4229 SubVendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" SubDevice: pci 0x1100 Revision: 0x61 Driver: "iwl4965" Driver Modules: "iwl4965" Device File: wlan0 Device Files: wlan0, wmaster0 Features: WLAN Memory Range: 0xc2100000-0xc2101fff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 219 (no events) HW Address: 00:1d:e0:b4:c0:29 Link detected: yes WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 149 153 157 161 165 WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 2.457 2.462 5.18 5.2 5.22 5.24 5.26 5.28 5.3 5.32 5.745 5.765 5.785 5.805 5.825 WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey wpa-psk wpa-eap Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00004229sv00008086sd00001100bc02sc80i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: iwl4965 is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe iwl4965" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #15 (PCI bridge) From godshatter at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 02:16:58 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:16:58 -0700 Subject: Wireless problems Intel 4965agn In-Reply-To: <200807171953.03622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> <200807171933.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200807171953.03622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <487FFD1A.3010407@yahoo.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2008, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >> On Thursday 17 July 2008, Paul Lemmons wrote: >> >>> I just got a new laptop : Lenovo T61 completely tricked out including an >>> Intel 4965agn wireless card. I am having a devil of a time getting it to >>> work. It fails to connect to anything and once it does that it no longer >>> scans for networks, leaving network-manager very empty looking. >>> >> I assume this isn't really a 'card' but is built-in? >> >> I think I have a 4965xxx in my Toshiba that is working ok. >> >> How about doing a hwinfo --wlan and posting the result. >> >> I'll do the same and check what I have. >> > > Below is the hwinfo for my wlan. Note that the module being used is: > > iwl4965 > > You should have a similar module in use. > > > 04: PCI 800.0: 0282 WLAN controller > [Created at pci.296] > UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4229 > Unique ID: y9sn.dFdMEvTRjP5 > Parent ID: HnsE.6tejkoUeUmF > SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:08:00.0 > SysFS BusID: 0000:08:00.0 > Hardware Class: network > Model: "Intel WLAN controller" > Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" > Device: pci 0x4229 > SubVendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" > SubDevice: pci 0x1100 > Revision: 0x61 > Driver: "iwl4965" > Driver Modules: "iwl4965" > Device File: wlan0 > Device Files: wlan0, wmaster0 > Features: WLAN > Memory Range: 0xc2100000-0xc2101fff (rw,non-prefetchable) > IRQ: 219 (no events) > HW Address: 00:1d:e0:b4:c0:29 > Link detected: yes > WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 149 153 157 > 161 165 > WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 > 2.457 2.462 5.18 5.2 5.22 5.24 5.26 5.28 5.3 5.32 5.745 5.765 5.785 5.805 > 5.825 > WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP > WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey wpa-psk wpa-eap > Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00004229sv00008086sd00001100bc02sc80i00" > Driver Info #0: > Driver Status: iwl4965 is active > Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe iwl4965" > Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown > Attached to: #15 (PCI bridge) > > > I have a T61 at work, with the same card, and also had trouble with the wireless. None of the gui configuration tools would work for me. I ended up writing a script that I would run after logging in. I don't have access to the laptop at the moment, but to the best of my recollection this is what I did: I would run "iwlist wlan0 -scan" to get a list of access points. I would choose the one with the highest power setting and note it's frequency. I'd run "ifconfig wlan0 -up", if I remember correctly. This enables the network, from what I understand. It's possible this wasn't needed. I would then run iwconfig wlan0 with parameters to give the essid, frequency, and WEP key. I may have had mode in there, too, but I can't remember. I think the key to getting it working command-line for me was to specify the frequency. For example: iwconfig wlan0 -essid whatever -WEP blah -freq 2.322G (or whatever it was) I would finally run "dhclient wlan0" to get my IP address. After that, I was golden. It sounds worse than it is. I was connecting to static access points, so I only had to run iwlist once and note the frequency. Then I just put the other commands in a script, hard-coded the frequency on the iwconfig command-line, and would run it via sudo. Unfortunately, I've been told by my boss to have customer support install Vista on it, so I probably won't be much help after that. If needed, I can get to the script on Monday and send it to the list. Paul From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 09:11:11 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:11:11 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> Pastor JW wrote: >>> On Wednesday 16 July 2008 03:32:28 am O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >>>> Running KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04.1 - I tried to change the background of the >>>> login screen using System Settings - Advanced - Login Manager. Despite >>>> giving sudo password and changing background etc. absolutely nothing >>>> happens when I log out and back in.... >>>> >>>> Anyone have any idea as to why? >>>> >>> Well, it could be the same problem my associate pastor had on his new 1525n; >>> he was changing the backgrounds in kdm but his machine was using gdm for the >>> login!! What does your current screen look like? >>> >>> >>> >> This is probably silly to ask, but did you click on 'Apply'? >> > yes I did - but all of a sudden things DID change after a couple of > reboots... gremlins in the computer I guess. Thanks for all assistance, > Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! Sinclair From stevebakerj at freeuk.com Fri Jul 18 11:37:23 2008 From: stevebakerj at freeuk.com (Stephen Baker) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:37:23 +0100 Subject: KDE4 Lost memory In-Reply-To: <200807172157.59781.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200807172157.59781.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <48808073.8080003@freeuk.com> Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote thus: > Hi, > > Each time i reboot my pc it comes back to the same state. > It doesn't remember my wallpapersettings, plamoids i use, buttons i added to > the taskbar... > > What can be the cause of this? Does Plasma crash when you logout? There is a bug report open for this: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166726 -- Steve Ethics are so annoying. I avoid them on principle. - Darby Conley From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 15:30:23 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:30:23 -0400 Subject: My 8.04.1 is falling apart In-Reply-To: <487FFD1A.3010407@yahoo.com> References: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> <200807171953.03622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <487FFD1A.3010407@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200807181130.23976.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> I downloaded 8.04.1-amd64 from the net and burned a DVD and eventually got a supposedly functioning system after adding an Nvidia driver and the RealPlayer update. Throughout I seem to get little "hickups" or glitches that come and go but since they disappear I tend to forget them. To date, the change from the previous Kubuntu version is about two weeks old. Yesterday I noted that the triangular icon at the lower right indicated that there were package updates available so I attempted to pursue this process. Partway through there was a complaint about the 8.04.1 disc contents so I tried to gracefully give up the process. When booting this morning all hell broke loose and I eventually ended up in console mode (I can't remember how to get into windows mode, it is so long ago that I ever had to do it :-( ). Fussing around with the alternate boot the system finally booted into KDE but indicated that it had lost sound drivers. Also, the screen had also lost the resolution. I booted again, and the sound driver miraculously reappeared but the Nvidia driver had not. Question 1: am I better off paying $13+ to get a stamped copy of 8.04[.0] and trying to redo everything from this level or keep fighting the problems with the .1 download? Question 2: Amazon sells two DVDs of 8.04 with different wrapper and respective ID numbers of: B0019KMA0I and B0019KKM4O and and features a combined purchase of both for a buck or two off. But the description looks identical. What is the difference? Why buy copies of the same thing??? Thanks for any suggestions. I hope I can keep this limping version running long enough to read responses. :-) PS: I did all the checks of the downloaded disc that were available and it passed with out problems. PPS: after downloading the RealPlayer stuff, Konqueror worked fine on youtube.com but Firefox still did not function with RealPlayer. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From execrable at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 15:40:32 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:40:32 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: <487AF4FA.8040900@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Brian Parma wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > >> Brian Parma wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Brian Parma > > > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Knapp > > > wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brian Parma >> > > wrote: >> > >> > Hey, >> > >> > I've been using Kubuntu for a little while now, but I >> > recently set up a new media box for my TV. Since I didn't >> > want to run cables across the living room, I decided to give >> > wireless a try. It's been a long time since I tried to get >> > wireless working in linux, so I was surprised at how easy it >> > was. The only problem I am having is that on occasion the >> > wireless will go down and then come back up. When the >> > wireless first goes down, the linux box tries to reconnect >> > but is unable (since the wireless is down) so it gives up. >> > When the wireless comes back up it doesn't reconnect >> > automatically. If I go to the desktop, right click on >> > knetworkmanager, and click on my network it connects fine, >> > but as this is a media PC I want to be able to remotely >> > access it from my other boxes. Having to go out and >> > reconnect it manually so frequently is extremely annoying. >> > >> > I've tried searching for help on this topic for a few days >> > but I could not find anything specifically addressing this >> > problem (maybe I'm just bad at searching). All the topics I >> > found were about automatically connecting on boot (which >> > works fine). Is there anyone that knows of a utility or >> > setting that I could use to fix this? >> > >> > I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KNetworkmanager. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > Could you just set up a cron task to check the network every so >> > often and if not connected then try? >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Douglas E Knapp >> > >> > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > >> > I suppose if there's no easier way I could try that (I've never >> > messed with cron so i'll have to do some reading ). I was just >> > hoping there was a easy, user-friendly way to do it (it's ubuntu >> > afterall ). >> > >> > >> > I'm still lost... >> > >> > I've looked at some cron stuff, looks easy enough to use, but I can't >> > seem to find any information on how to check/activate knetworkmanager >> > using the command line. >> > >> > According to nm-tool, my wireless device even detects the wireless >> > network when it comes online, but it doesn't seem to want to >> > automatically activate the device. Right clicking on the tray icon and >> > clicking on the network activates it, but is there a command to activate >> > it? Or better, a way to make NetworkManager auto-activate it? >> > >> what wireless card are you using? There is a known problem with the >> driver for Intel 3945ABG (I think that is the correct model) that >> behaves the way you describe. >> >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > According to nm-tool the driver is rt61pci (EDIMAX EW-7128G card). Again, > other than automatically activating when my wireless network goes up (except > after booting), everything about the card works just fine. > > Brian > So no one has had this problem? It seems like a pretty unacceptable problem for any box that won't normally have a monitor/keyboard setup. I'd really like to fix this so I don't have to switch it to M$. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 16:03:18 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:03:18 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> I have noticed (on my laptop) that if I have eth0 active, my wireless does not work or goes down or hangs the machine. I deactivated eth0 and all is well. ifconfig eth0 down Also remove it from the /etc/network/interfaces file (or just remark it out). That might help. I hope. \d From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 18 16:47:19 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:47:19 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > I have noticed (on my laptop) that if I have eth0 active, my wireless does > not work or goes down or hangs the machine. I deactivated eth0 and all is > well. > > ifconfig eth0 down > > Also remove it from the /etc/network/interfaces file (or just remark it > out). This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple concurrent interfaces -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 17:10:51 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:10:51 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: > This is true.  Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple > concurrent interfaces Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! \d From spwhite at freesurf.ch Fri Jul 18 17:14:23 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:23 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807181914.23626.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Friday 18 July 2008 11:11, O. Sinclair wrote: > Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the > original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried > just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! I'm not a guru but in the case of a "bad" file in ~/.kde I would do the following (standard magical cure) : Rename ~/.kde to ~/.kde.bak and reboot (I belive there is a faster way than reboot, perhaps logout of kde is enough but I'm unsure). If that problem is still there, just replace the newly automagically created ~/.kde by your backup. *Easy, isn't it?* For the diagnosis. *If that problem is solved* you will want to restore your settings: inspect what is in ~/.kde.bak... you could probably guess by the name which files or folders are probably unrelated and restore a great swab of them all at once (remember which one you transferred, for example first move them in a new directory and after that copy them to ~/.kde, then reboot/test to make sure it's O.K. (it is also,possible you can guess directly which file is involved) If no O.K. revert back an restore less files. With a patient and clever search you will zoom in the faulty file in a finite number of trails (hope you know about "binary search"), 10 to sort out a thousand files and only 20 for a million, so it will be lesst than 20 ;) I still know it will take you some time. If you go this far as to identify the faluty file, please post the result here. 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Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From godshatter at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 18:51:57 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:51:57 -0700 Subject: Wireless problems Intel 4965agn In-Reply-To: <4880D284.8020700@lemmons.name> References: <487FD19C.3070909@lemmons.name> <200807171933.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200807171953.03622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <487FFD1A.3010407@yahoo.com> <4880D284.8020700@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4880E64D.4060508@yahoo.com> Paul Lemmons wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re:Wireless problems Intel 4965agn > From: Paul Rumelhart > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: 07/17/2008 07:16 PM >> Bruce Marshall wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 17 July 2008, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Thursday 17 July 2008, Paul Lemmons wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I just got a new laptop : Lenovo T61 completely tricked out including an >>>>> Intel 4965agn wireless card. I am having a devil of a time getting it to >>>>> work. It fails to connect to anything and once it does that it no longer >>>>> scans for networks, leaving network-manager very empty looking. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I assume this isn't really a 'card' but is built-in? >>>> >>>> I think I have a 4965xxx in my Toshiba that is working ok. >>>> >>>> How about doing a hwinfo --wlan and posting the result. >>>> >>>> I'll do the same and check what I have. >>>> >>>> >>> Below is the hwinfo for my wlan. Note that the module being used is: >>> >>> iwl4965 >>> >>> You should have a similar module in use. >>> >>> >>> 04: PCI 800.0: 0282 WLAN controller >>> [Created at pci.296] >>> UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4229 >>> Unique ID: y9sn.dFdMEvTRjP5 >>> Parent ID: HnsE.6tejkoUeUmF >>> SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:08:00.0 >>> SysFS BusID: 0000:08:00.0 >>> Hardware Class: network >>> Model: "Intel WLAN controller" >>> Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" >>> Device: pci 0x4229 >>> SubVendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" >>> SubDevice: pci 0x1100 >>> Revision: 0x61 >>> Driver: "iwl4965" >>> Driver Modules: "iwl4965" >>> Device File: wlan0 >>> Device Files: wlan0, wmaster0 >>> Features: WLAN >>> Memory Range: 0xc2100000-0xc2101fff (rw,non-prefetchable) >>> IRQ: 219 (no events) >>> HW Address: 00:1d:e0:b4:c0:29 >>> Link detected: yes >>> WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 149 153 157 >>> 161 165 >>> WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 >>> 2.457 2.462 5.18 5.2 5.22 5.24 5.26 5.28 5.3 5.32 5.745 5.765 5.785 5.805 >>> 5.825 >>> WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP >>> WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey wpa-psk wpa-eap >>> Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00004229sv00008086sd00001100bc02sc80i00" >>> Driver Info #0: >>> Driver Status: iwl4965 is active >>> Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe iwl4965" >>> Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown >>> Attached to: #15 (PCI bridge) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I have a T61 at work, with the same card, and also had trouble with the >> wireless. None of the gui configuration tools would work for me. I >> ended up writing a script that I would run after logging in. I don't >> have access to the laptop at the moment, but to the best of my >> recollection this is what I did: >> >> I would run "iwlist wlan0 -scan" to get a list of access points. I >> would choose the one with the highest power setting and note it's frequency. >> >> I'd run "ifconfig wlan0 -up", if I remember correctly. This enables the >> network, from what I understand. It's possible this wasn't needed. >> >> I would then run iwconfig wlan0 with parameters to give the essid, >> frequency, and WEP key. I may have had mode in there, too, but I can't >> remember. I think the key to getting it working command-line for me was >> to specify the frequency. For example: >> >> iwconfig wlan0 -essid whatever -WEP blah -freq 2.322G (or whatever it was) >> >> I would finally run "dhclient wlan0" to get my IP address. After that, >> I was golden. >> >> It sounds worse than it is. I was connecting to static access points, >> so I only had to run iwlist once and note the frequency. Then I just >> put the other commands in a script, hard-coded the frequency on the >> iwconfig command-line, and would run it via sudo. >> >> Unfortunately, I've been told by my boss to have customer support >> install Vista on it, so I probably won't be much help after that. >> >> If needed, I can get to the script on Monday and send it to the list. >> >> Paul > If you could share your scripts before your laptop gets lobotomized I > would reallt appreciate it. I would like to do some experimentation to > see if I can isolate where the problem is. > > -- > Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. > Here it is (essid and WEP key removed): ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig essid mode Managed freq 2.462G key dhclient wlan0 The frequency (2.452G) corresponds to one of the access points in our building. I tried different settings combinations, but nothing worked before I specified frequency. I removed most of the other settings, trying to pair down the script. I just run this script as sudo when I want to connect. After that, everything seems fine. Paul From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 18 19:36:53 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:36:53 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >> This is true.  Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >> concurrent interfaces > Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it > some lower-level thing? Network manager is "lower level". knetwork-manager and it's gnome counterpart are the GUIs for it. > It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and > wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time (I know such topologies exist, but it's an uncommon requirement for a home computer). Why would Windows do it either? My experience is that Windows uses a wired connection when available - and making it use two connections at once is harder than with Ubuntu. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 20:16:30 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:16:30 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807182216.30365.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a > wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time I needed one to get my laptop going. I had the LAN cable in to access the web interface of my Access Point while I tried to contact the AP from the wireless device. It works for a while but you get really screwy problems and Ubuntu would often freeze. > Why would Windows do it either? Same kind of thing. It complains if the IP's are the same on both, but you can bring the ifaces up and there's no odd business. Another reason would be to contact two different networks from one machine. I am totally hopeless with networks, but I have it in my thick head that an interface can only reach a certain network that it's related-to. So, if you have a 172.16.200.x host and a 192.168.blah.blah host and you want to reach both of them you might want to use LAN and wireless at the same time. Of course, me being a total idjit, there's probably better ways to do that :) \d From mlsoft at videotron.ca Fri Jul 18 20:15:05 2008 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:15:05 -0400 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On Friday 18 July 2008 15:36:53 Derek Broughton wrote: > Donn wrote: > > > On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> This is true.  Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple > >> concurrent interfaces > > Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it > > some lower-level thing? > > Network manager is "lower level". knetwork-manager and it's gnome > counterpart are the GUIs for it. > > > It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and > > wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! > > It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a > wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time (I know such > topologies exist, but it's an uncommon requirement for a home computer). > Why would Windows do it either? My experience is that Windows uses a wired > connection when available - and making it use two connections at once is > harder than with Ubuntu. > -- > derek > > Does anyone ever used 'wicd' ? this replace network manager, and do all the stuff you would ever wanted network-manager to do. all this automagically. apt-get install wicd I personnaly add it to my first steps after installing a laptop. -- Martin Laberge mlsoft at videotron.ca Tel:(418)521-6823 30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning... From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 20:34:36 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:34:36 +0300 Subject: No network after suspension In-Reply-To: <200807172211.05508.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200807172211.05508.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807181334ld0a6e78x83d2b18fda7a903c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/17 Valter Mura : > Hi All, > > when I resume after a suspension the system loses the "line". I have a LAN, > that's to say the comp is connected to Internet by an adsl modem through a > LAN cable. > this is strange, because before last main release (8.04) my system worked > well... > > suspension from RAM or HD? standby or hibernate? it would be strange if it didn't work with suspend to HD, as for the other one, it always creates problems with my connection, on both linux and windows. but you say it worked in previous versions?it could be a kernel issue, but as far as i've experienced, it's usually hardware issues. -- George Carlin - "Electricity is really just organized lightning." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri Jul 18 20:22:16 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:22:16 +0200 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> "O. Sinclair" writes: > Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the > original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried > just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! Edit the file /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc change Wallpaper[$e]=... *whatever you changed it to* to Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg Make sure /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc contains the line Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ Restart kdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart or reboot -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From juankawada at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 21:46:48 2008 From: juankawada at gmail.com (Juan Kawada) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:46:48 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Storage Problem In-Reply-To: <487BA4B1.7020907@gmail.com> References: <487B6A78.4060508@sbcglobal.net> <487BA4B1.7020907@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you think ktorrent may be having problems, I would recommend trying another client to be sure. (and I would also recommend another client just in general). try azureus, it's in the repositories. just a side note, if you may be one of those hooligans that are downloading illegal material, azureus offers a safepeer plugin (available in the plugins menu). > > KTorrent used to have a problem (and maybe it still does) downloading files > larger than 4GB. 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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:02 AM, wrote: > I noticed the other day that the "Important security updates" box in the > Update tab for managing the repositories in Adept was not checked. > > In fact, I couldn't check it; whenever I release the mouse button, it > becomes > unchecked. > > I had a 3rd party repository enabled (security.ubuntu.com), but unchecking > or > removing it didn't solve the problem. > > Can anyone tell me what's happening and how to correct? > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- --------------- Registered Linux user #475220 register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone can help me? ========================================================================================== funcrush at 2zii:~$ korganizer korganizer(6767): ""LastLoad" - conversion of "-4713,1,1,0,0,0" to QDateTime failed" korganizer(6767): ""LastSave" - conversion of "-4713,1,1,0,0,0" to QDateTime failed" KTranscript: Loaded module: /usr/lib/kde4/share/locale/ko/LC_SCRIPTS/kdelibs4/kdelibs4.js KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = korganizer path = pid = 6767 sock_file=/home/funcrush/.kde4/socket-2zii/kdeinit4__0 (6766)/: Communication problem with "korganizer" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " ========================================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 02:58:04 2008 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:58:04 -0400 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: <200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local> <200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com> <200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Bales wrote: > > sudo -i does work in this situation. > Exactly. No need for a root password at all. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Sat Jul 19 05:25:47 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:25:47 +0200 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local><200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca><3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com><200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <254178E4465243A2A2003A85B232AF51@vista> This question is always of actuallity ! If someone wants password 's root I think it's better to tell him and tell him the danger but that's all ! suse can yet start as root :) Any way for ubu like it's the way :) if you got gdm kdm edit in /etc/kdm or gdm .conf at about line 230 (about ) AllowRootLogin=false change it to true save and run kdm/gdm again /etc/init.d/kdm restart or gdm and then you can use root as loging thanks again to those who have told me on internet :) ----- Original Message ----- From: John DeCarlo To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:58 AM Subject: Re: root password On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Bales wrote: sudo -i does work in this situation. Exactly. No need for a root password at all. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Sat Jul 19 05:26:54 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:26:54 +0200 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local><200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca><3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com><200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: i forgot in my previous message first do sudo passwd root and give a password ----- Original Message ----- From: John DeCarlo To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:58 AM Subject: Re: root password On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Bales wrote: sudo -i does work in this situation. Exactly. No need for a root password at all. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Jul 19 05:34:20 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:34:20 -0500 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: <254178E4465243A2A2003A85B232AF51@vista> References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local><200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca><3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com><200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> <254178E4465243A2A2003A85B232AF51@vista> Message-ID: <48817CDC.7070403@swbell.net> On 07/19/2008 Henri Girard wrote: > This question is always of actuallity ! > If someone wants password 's root I think it's better to tell him and > tell him the danger but that's all ! > suse can yet start as root :) > Any way for ubu like it's the way :) > if you got gdm kdm > edit in /etc/kdm or gdm .conf at about line 230 (about ) > AllowRootLogin=false change it to true > save and run kdm/gdm again > > /etc/init.d/kdm restart or gdm > and then you can use root as loging > thanks again to those who have told me on internet :) Coming from SuSE I found not having a "root" login kind of strange. After a year with Kubuntu it seems strange to have to have "root" when I boot into SuSE. I guess it's whatever your used to. Personally I don't find having a "root" login to be necesary. YMMV -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From john.j35 at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 06:20:27 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:20:27 -0500 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local> <200806291647.09734.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <3dde113c0806301302t1b07c5fah1188e042f3d7ab16@mail.gmail.com> <200807141329.24322.bbales@cox.net> <3dde113c0807181958r26cda309i303361f8d5a3b9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > first do > > sudo passwd root > and give a password But before you can log in you will have to enable the account, it is disabled by default -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 06:44:08 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:44:08 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> Donn wrote: > On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >> concurrent interfaces > Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it some > lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and wireless at > the same time -- even Windoze can do it! > > \d > this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my Dell I can use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a cable is in the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of weeks only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you insert a cable. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 06:46:43 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:46:43 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <48818DD3.1090009@gmail.com> Martin Laberge wrote: > On Friday 18 July 2008 15:36:53 Derek Broughton wrote: >> Donn wrote: >> >>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >>>> concurrent interfaces >>> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it >>> some lower-level thing? >> Network manager is "lower level". knetwork-manager and it's gnome >> counterpart are the GUIs for it. >> >>> It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and >>> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! >> It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a >> wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time (I know such >> topologies exist, but it's an uncommon requirement for a home computer). >> Why would Windows do it either? My experience is that Windows uses a wired >> connection when available - and making it use two connections at once is >> harder than with Ubuntu. >> -- >> derek >> >> > > Does anyone ever used 'wicd' ? > > this replace network manager, and do all the stuff > you would ever wanted network-manager to do. > > all this automagically. > > apt-get install wicd > > I personnaly add it to my first steps after installing a laptop. > > Yep I use wicd but even so - as stated earlier in some cases it seems to be hardware depending. I nearly went nuts installing that HP laptop before discovering by accident that wireless activated once I pulled the cable for wired. Sinclair From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 07:04:30 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:30 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807190904.30379.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. My laptop is a 5 year old Toshiba Satellite of some stripe. I can imagine that the drivers for it's ethernet may not be the most maintained of things. \d From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Jul 19 07:48:33 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:48:33 +0200 Subject: KDE4 Lost memory In-Reply-To: <48808073.8080003@freeuk.com> References: <200807172157.59781.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <48808073.8080003@freeuk.com> Message-ID: <200807190948.34153.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Friday 18 July 2008 13:37:23 schreef Stephen Baker: > Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote thus: > > Hi, > > > > Each time i reboot my pc it comes back to the same state. > > It doesn't remember my wallpapersettings, plamoids i use, buttons i added > > to the taskbar... > > > > What can be the cause of this? > > Does Plasma crash when you logout? > > There is a bug report open for this: > > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166726 > > -- > Steve > > Ethics are so annoying. I avoid them on principle. > - Darby Conley It doesn't crasch... From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Jul 19 07:51:02 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:51:02 +0200 Subject: kde 4.1 config issues In-Reply-To: <071720082128.4744.487FB982000B358D000012882200762302CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <071720082128.4744.487FB982000B358D000012882200762302CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200807190951.02832.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Thursday 17 July 2008 23:28:34 schreef pkaplan1 at comcast.net: > I'm having inconsistencies between some apps on different laptops both with > KDE 4.1. > > One example is that knetworkmanager (3.5.9) appears in the system tray on > one machine, but not the other. Similarly, I can't get smb4k to go to the > system tray on one machine although it will launch as an application and > seems to work OK. A different example (in this case the problem is the > opposite machine) is that the panel clock on one machine is only as wide as > it needs to be to see the digits displaying the time, where as on the other > machine the clock takes up a lot of space judging from how close the > nearest widget can be placed. > > I've tried deleting ~/.kde4, but it doesn't seem to solve the problem on > either machine; the behavior is consistent on the machine where the problem > was first noted, so the problem lies outside ~/.kde4 > > I'm at a loss as to how to fix or trouble shoot. Any ideas? > > Paul I have the same problem here. Somethimes knetworkmanager is shown in the tray, somethime not... Identically with kwalletmanager. Karl From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 10:57:46 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:57:46 -0400 Subject: kde 4.1 config issues In-Reply-To: <200807190951.02832.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <071720082128.4744.487FB982000B358D000012882200762302CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <200807190951.02832.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200807190657.46648.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Saturday 19 July 2008 3:51:02 am Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Op Thursday 17 July 2008 23:28:34 schreef pkaplan1 at comcast.net: > > I'm having inconsistencies between some apps on different laptops both > > with KDE 4.1. > > > > One example is that knetworkmanager (3.5.9) appears in the system tray on > > one machine, but not the other. Similarly, I can't get smb4k to go to > > the system tray on one machine although it will launch as an application > > and seems to work OK. A different example (in this case the problem is > > the opposite machine) is that the panel clock on one machine is only as > > wide as it needs to be to see the digits displaying the time, where as on > > the other machine the clock takes up a lot of space judging from how > > close the nearest widget can be placed. > > > > I've tried deleting ~/.kde4, but it doesn't seem to solve the problem on > > either machine; the behavior is consistent on the machine where the > > problem was first noted, so the problem lies outside ~/.kde4 > > > > I'm at a loss as to how to fix or trouble shoot. Any ideas? > > > > Paul > > I have the same problem here. > Somethimes knetworkmanager is shown in the tray, somethime not... > Identically with kwalletmanager. > > Karl Thanks. I don't feel crazy anymore. Have you tried launching kde4.1 from a new user account (one that doesn't have any legacy configuration files in it)? I've seen different behaviors from different accounts on the same machine which leads me to wonder whether there's some non-kde4.1 config file that's messing things up. Paul From barnaby at drofle.com Sat Jul 19 12:41:07 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:41:07 +0100 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > > It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a > wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time (I know such > topologies exist, but it's an uncommon requirement for a home computer). > Why would Windows do it either? My experience is that Windows uses a wired > connection when available - and making it use two connections at once is > harder than with Ubuntu. Am I misunderstanding something here? I keep my desktop machine upstairs, connected to the internet via a cable to a router. Downstairs my wife uses her laptop, connected to the same router by wireless. They both work fine, and often at the same time. I have never had any problems and didn't expect any. Should I be surprised? Neil Winchurst From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 13:05:06 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:05:06 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> Message-ID: <20080719130506.GA5203@slug.azmolan> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:41, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Am I misunderstanding something here? I keep my desktop machine > upstairs, connected to the internet via a cable to a router. > > Downstairs my wife uses her laptop, connected to the same router by > wireless. They both work fine, and often at the same time. I have never > had any problems and didn't expect any. > > Should I be surprised? Wired and wireless connection to the *same* computer at the same time. -- Greetings, Gordon. From barnaby at drofle.com Sat Jul 19 12:59:15 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:59:15 +0100 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <20080719130506.GA5203@slug.azmolan> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> <20080719130506.GA5203@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <4881E523.5050701@drofle.com> Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:41, Neil Winchurst wrote: > >> Am I misunderstanding something here? I keep my desktop machine >> upstairs, connected to the internet via a cable to a router. >> >> Downstairs my wife uses her laptop, connected to the same router by >> wireless. They both work fine, and often at the same time. I have never >> had any problems and didn't expect any. >> >> Should I be surprised? > Wired and wireless connection to the *same* computer at the same time. > > -- > Greetings, > Gordon. > That's right. I must read the thread again. Neil From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 19 14:23:51 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:23:51 -0400 Subject: root password In-Reply-To: References: <01a301c8d89b$41761f90$a601a8c0@zialnet.local> Message-ID: <200807191023.51492.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 19 July 2008, John Pierce wrote: > > first do > > > > sudo passwd root > > and give a password > > But before you can log in you will have to enable the account, it is > disabled by default Huh?? You can do the above from your normal login. No need to enable root to do it. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 19 14:27:34 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:27:34 -0400 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <48818DD3.1090009@gmail.com> References: <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <48818DD3.1090009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807191027.34989.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 19 July 2008, O. Sinclair wrote: > Yep I use wicd but even so - as stated earlier in some cases it seems to > be hardware depending. I nearly went nuts installing that HP laptop > before discovering by accident that wireless activated once I pulled the > cable for wired. This usually is a problem with having two 'default gateways' and the networking doesn't know which to use. Pulling the cable removes one of the gateways. Next time you do this, look at the routing: route -n and you will most likely see two routes with the 'UG' flags (G for gateway) Then route del default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx eth0 (or which ever interface you want to remove) Be it works after that. The xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address you are using for the GW. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 19 14:28:32 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:28:32 -0400 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> References: <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> Message-ID: <200807191028.32373.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 19 July 2008, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Downstairs my wife uses her laptop, connected to the same router by > wireless. They both work fine, and often at the same time. I have never > had any problems and didn't expect any. > > Should I be surprised? Not at all.... two different machines, each with one gateway From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 17:14:46 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:14:46 +0300 Subject: Temp applet? Message-ID: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have lmsensors installed. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kaj at haulrich.net Sat Jul 19 17:29:41 2008 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:29:41 +0200 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807191929.41906.kaj@haulrich.net> On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:14:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have > lmsensors installed. Thanks. KSysGuard. Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux (Kubuntu 8.04) ********* From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 17:34:13 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:34:13 +0200 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/19 Dotan Cohen : > Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have > lmsensors installed. Thanks. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > I like Kima. / Jonas From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 17:55:50 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:55:50 +0300 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <200807191929.41906.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <200807191929.41906.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/19 Kaj Haulrich : > On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:14:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have >> lmsensors installed. Thanks. > > KSysGuard. > I do have ksysguard running in the panel. I don't see where I can configure what is displayed. I have CPU and memory graphs. How does one add temp? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 18:00:39 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:00:39 +0300 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/19 Jonas Norlander : > I like Kima. > Thanks, Jonas. I have some graphics corruption with Kima but it seems nice. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kaj at haulrich.net Sat Jul 19 18:05:30 2008 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:05:30 +0200 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <200807191929.41906.kaj@haulrich.net> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:55:50 Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/19 Kaj Haulrich : > > On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:14:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have > >> lmsensors installed. Thanks. > > > > KSysGuard. > > I do have ksysguard running in the panel. I don't see where I can > configure what is displayed. I have CPU and memory graphs. How > does one add temp? Sorry to have misunderstood your request for an "applet". In KSysGuard, in the left-hand panel: expand it to show ACPI --> Thermal Zone --> Temperature. Then drag the tiny symbol to a window. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux (Kubuntu 8.04) ********* From hebm12 at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 18:10:22 2008 From: hebm12 at gmail.com (Hector Barrios Molano) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:10:22 -0500 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <487C6F70.10303@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <486E5FF8.4050906@rmk.co.il> <486E7F37.4060003@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00807050500j4dbd5f4v4711f4c23ee290f4@mail.gmail.com> <2955553.OkRiz7HxQI@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00807050803u6338b822t3c28a56ac4da390b@mail.gmail.com> <1691967.0Kh56fimy5@cedar.serverforest.com> <626640da0807131134p2b476e47qaa1742afe68524f9@mail.gmail.com> <487C6F70.10303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <626640da0807191110m69fdaabdt71bddfd16efd2550@mail.gmail.com> Hello. Bas, the VIA OpenBook is just a model desing, it never going to be "commercial", it's a guide for companies who base theirs model on it, some of these companies are Everex and exists rumors that Sony will base on VIA OpenBook, and we'll see the same (or almost the same) model but with different name for example the Everex's cloudbook max. Whaterver, none of the VIA OpenBook based device are commercial now (that i know). For the smaller laptops (somebody calls "netbooks") that are commericial, the best choise, for me, is the Aspire One , good price, good look, good prestations, I like the blue one, someone knows how can I get one if I live in Colombia? Herea review of the Acer Aspire One And one more thing, there is evidence that in August Dell will launch the Dell E, it's supossed that will cost ~$300, in august we'll see. Have a good day guys. 2008/7/15 Bas Roufs : > Hello everybody > > Thanks for all the useful input so far in this thread! > > > I'm interest to buy a "netbook" too, I have been decided for the VIA > > openbook that it's a open design, what do you think about this model? > > for specifications : here > > < > http://www.viaopenbook.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=2 > > > > > With interest I have taken a look at the website www.viaopenbook.com > It looks like a kind of Open Source design model, made under the > so-called 'creative commons' license. > > Most of the technical specifications look perfectly acceptable to me. > (See viaopenbook.com, click at 'specifications.) However, I have > questions about two major items amongst them. > > The main data storage medium is an 80 GB 'Hard Disk' (HD). To which > extend is that one 'shock proof'? > > The battery has the following specs: 4 Cells, 2600ma. How much time > 'autonomous battery life' do they have? > > Finally - is there already anybody who has practical experience with > 'Via OpenBook' in combination with Kubuntu? > > Respectfully Yours, > > Bas. > > > -- > ************************* > Viaconsensus > Bas G. Roufs M.A. > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com > M.: +31.6.446.835.10. > T.: +31.30.785.20.40. > ************************** > > Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net > > European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net > > Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 19 18:45:36 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:45:36 -0400 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 19 July 2008, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I do have ksysguard running in the panel. I don't see where I can > > configure what is displayed. I have CPU and memory graphs. How > > does one add temp? > > Sorry to have misunderstood your request for an "applet". > > In KSysGuard, in the left-hand panel: expand it to show ACPI --> > Thermal Zone --> Temperature. Then drag the tiny symbol to a window. You are probably right on this but I see no ACPI in Ksysguard. Unless a reboot is necessary. I just loaded the sensor modules and am getting good info out of the 'sensors' command. But Ksysguard isn't telling me a thing. From dave at thefletchers.net Sat Jul 19 21:16:16 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:16:16 +0100 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200807192216.16202.dave@thefletchers.net> On Saturday 19 Jul 2008, Bruce Marshall wrote: > You are probably right on this but I see no ACPI in Ksysguard. > > Unless a reboot is necessary. I just loaded the sensor modules and am getting > good info out of the 'sensors' command. But Ksysguard isn't telling me a > thing. > I got The program 'sensors' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors So I removed lmsensors and did as requested above. sensors now works for me, which I've never had before, thanks:- Core0 Temp: +22°C Core0 Temp: +23°C Core1 Temp: +27°C Core1 Temp: +24°C These might seem low, but I'm running an AMD dual core, energy efficient chip with the enormous OCZ copper conductor heat sink that's got a stack of big aluminium fins and a proper size fan on the side :-) It should run for ever. +27°C agrees with what I saw in the BIOS last time I looked. Dave -- FACT - Millions of people worldwide continue to pay money to one of the richest companies in the world for its products, even though perfectly good software is given away completely free of charge by the open source community! I can't understand it either. Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 22:59:16 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:59:16 -0600 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488271C4.1010806@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen said the following at 07/19/2008 12:00 PM : > 2008/7/19 Jonas Norlander : >> I like Kima. >> The great thing about Ksysguard (to my mind) is that you can easily monitor the status of many things on multiple computers. I'm not sure that Kima allows that. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 01:23:41 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:23:41 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <1673047.V1Snigxkp6@cedar.serverforest.com> Martin Laberge wrote: > Does anyone ever used 'wicd' ? > > this replace network manager, and do all the stuff > you would ever wanted network-manager to do. > > all this automagically. Well, not really. I've tried it. It works about as well as Network manager. In smoe cases it's better, in others its worse. It's certainly an alternative if Network manager doesn't work for you but it's not a perfect solution. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 01:29:47 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:29:47 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Donn wrote: >> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >>> concurrent interfaces >> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it >> some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and >> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! >> > this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my Dell I can > use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a cable is in > the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of weeks > only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you > insert a cable. It shouldn't be hardware - it should be a matter of whether you have the wired interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If it isn't, it's handled by Network manager, which is only going to handle one interface at a time. If it is, network manager will ignore it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 01:27:37 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:37 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807182216.30365.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1673048.pE2CBR5eNR@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a >> wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time > I needed one to get my laptop going. I had the LAN cable in to access the > web interface of my Access Point while I tried to contact the AP from the > wireless device. It works for a while but you get really screwy problems > and Ubuntu would often freeze. > >> Why would Windows do it either? > Same kind of thing. It complains if the IP's are the same on both, but you > can bring the ifaces up and there's no odd business. But I can do that with a default Ubuntu setup too. What you can't do with the default is get it to _automatically_ bring up a wireless interface while the wired interface is connected. I don't see that being a problem for 95% of users. > > Another reason would be to contact two different networks from one > machine. Naturally - but this is a _business_ use case, it's not something that almost any _home_ user needs. > I am totally hopeless with networks, but I have it in my thick > head that an interface can only reach a certain network that it's > related-to. So, if you have a 172.16.200.x host and a 192.168.blah.blah > host and you want to reach both of them you might want to use LAN and > wireless at the same time. Of course, me being a total idjit, there's > probably better ways to do that :) Yes, there are. > > \d -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 01:36:37 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:36:37 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2211129.yvvHNKxvOI@cedar.serverforest.com> <4881E0E3.8020807@drofle.com> Message-ID: <1317796.WzdZotrajg@cedar.serverforest.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> It's easy enough to set up, but I don't actually know anybody who needs a >> wired _and_ wireless connection working at the same time (I know such >> topologies exist, but it's an uncommon requirement for a home computer). >> Why would Windows do it either? My experience is that Windows uses a >> wired connection when available - and making it use two connections at >> once is harder than with Ubuntu. > > Am I misunderstanding something here? I keep my desktop machine > upstairs, connected to the internet via a cable to a router. > > Downstairs my wife uses her laptop, connected to the same router by > wireless. They both work fine, and often at the same time. I have never > had any problems and didn't expect any. > > Should I be surprised? ???????????????? I could use a few more question marks there, it's so mind boggling. Why on earth would you think that there's any reason why it should matter? The router is designed to make connections by both methods, your computer _can_, but practically never needs to. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 01:48:17 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:48:17 -0300 Subject: Temp applet? References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <2460905.BnndTg7tr2@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday 19 July 2008, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> > I do have ksysguard running in the panel. I don't see where I can >> > configure what is displayed. I have CPU and memory graphs. How >> > does one add temp? >> >> Sorry to have misunderstood your request for an "applet". >> >> In KSysGuard, in the left-hand panel: expand it to show ACPI --> >> Thermal Zone --> Temperature. Then drag the tiny symbol to a window. > > You are probably right on this but I see no ACPI in Ksysguard. > > Unless a reboot is necessary. I just loaded the sensor modules and am > getting > good info out of the 'sensors' command. But Ksysguard isn't telling me a > thing. Works for me - under "Sensor Browser"/"localhost". Now if only I could figure out how to put that into the system tray. -- derek From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 03:17:14 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:17:14 -0600 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <2460905.BnndTg7tr2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <2460905.BnndTg7tr2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4882AE3A.8010400@gmail.com> Derek Broughton said the following at 07/19/2008 07:48 PM : > > Works for me - under "Sensor Browser"/"localhost". Now if only I could > figure out how to put that into the system tray. Right click on panel | Add applet | System Guard Configure system guard if you need to after you've put it in the panel, to select the number of panels that you want to display. I have three monitors in my panel: CPU, Eth on the local machine, and Eth on a remote machine (on the NIC that goes to the Internet, so I can see my aggregated upstream/downstream bandwidth use in real time). Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 06:46:10 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:46:10 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <200807191027.34989.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200807181615.05306.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <48818DD3.1090009@gmail.com> <200807191027.34989.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4882DF32.2050709@gmail.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday 19 July 2008, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Yep I use wicd but even so - as stated earlier in some cases it seems to >> be hardware depending. I nearly went nuts installing that HP laptop >> before discovering by accident that wireless activated once I pulled the >> cable for wired. > > This usually is a problem with having two 'default gateways' and the > networking doesn't know which to use. Pulling the cable removes one of the > gateways. > > Next time you do this, look at the routing: > > route -n > > and you will most likely see two routes with the 'UG' flags (G for > gateway) > > Then > > route del default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx eth0 (or which ever interface you > want to remove) > > Be it works after that. > > The xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address you are using for the GW. > thanks for the info, I will try it next time I visit the office in question and see if it works. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 06:48:53 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:48:53 +0200 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <200807191929.41906.kaj@haulrich.net> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4882DFD5.2020202@gmail.com> Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:55:50 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> 2008/7/19 Kaj Haulrich : >>> On Saturday 19 July 2008 19:14:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: >>>> Is there a panel applet that can show the cpu temp? I do have >>>> lmsensors installed. Thanks. >>> KSysGuard. >> I do have ksysguard running in the panel. I don't see where I can >> configure what is displayed. I have CPU and memory graphs. How >> does one add temp? > > Sorry to have misunderstood your request for an "applet". > I use cpuinfo, very handy. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 06:50:25 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:50:25 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4882E031.9090003@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Donn wrote: >>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >>>> concurrent interfaces >>> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is it >>> some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and >>> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! >>> >> this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my Dell I can >> use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a cable is in >> the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of weeks >> only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you >> insert a cable. > > It shouldn't be hardware - it should be a matter of whether you have the > wired interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If it isn't, it's > handled by Network manager, which is only going to handle one interface at > a time. If it is, network manager will ignore it. I don't, wicd goes nuts if you mess the interfaces manually. From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 07:30:25 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:30:25 +0300 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <488271C4.1010806@gmail.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> <488271C4.1010806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807200030i6f8a05e8uccc1b847134ae6f9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/20 D. R. Evans : > Dotan Cohen said the following at 07/19/2008 12:00 PM : >> 2008/7/19 Jonas Norlander : >>> I like Kima. >>> > > The great thing about Ksysguard (to my mind) is that you can easily monitor > the status of many things on multiple computers. I'm not sure that Kima > allows that. > Are you referring to the panel applet? Because I do not see how to configure it for displaying tempurature. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Jul 20 12:33:14 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:33:14 -0400 Subject: printer config in kde4.1 Message-ID: <200807200833.15100.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Is there a printer config module for the systemsettings app in kde 4.1? Paul From AmbergerTh at yahoo.de Sun Jul 20 12:34:25 2008 From: AmbergerTh at yahoo.de (Thomas Amberger) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:34:25 +0200 Subject: Open big files in editor Kate - solved In-Reply-To: <200807081600.49745.AmbergerTh@yahoo.de> References: <200807081600.49745.AmbergerTh@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <200807201434.26022.AmbergerTh@yahoo.de> Hello, its works very well, when i disable the coloring of keywords. Now its no problem, to open files greater then 1MB. Thomas Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2008 16:00:48 schrieb Thomas Amberger: > Hello, > > i tryed to open a logfile with 1,8 MB in Kate. Its not possible to work > with Kate, its too slow. (KWrite is the same). Can i adjust Kate, to work > normal with greater files? > > Kedit, Emacs and also OpenOffice works better with these files. > > Greetings > > Thomas From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 16:23:11 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:23:11 -0300 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> <4882E031.9090003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1785534.VzKIpAEgxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> Donn wrote: >>>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >>>>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple >>>>> concurrent interfaces >>>> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is >>>> it some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 and >>>> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! >>>> >>> this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my Dell I can >>> use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a cable is in >>> the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of weeks >>> only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you >>> insert a cable. >> >> It shouldn't be hardware - it should be a matter of whether you have the >> wired interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If it isn't, it's >> handled by Network manager, which is only going to handle one interface >> at >> a time. If it is, network manager will ignore it. > I don't, wicd goes nuts if you mess the interfaces manually. Well, as I said - wicd isn't always the answer :-) NM simply doesn't handle interfaces that have been configured manually. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 16:33:29 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:33:29 -0300 Subject: Temp applet? References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191055t2f017e96l894b7c3d115b169f@mail.gmail.com> <200807192005.30316.kaj@haulrich.net> <200807191445.36423.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <2460905.BnndTg7tr2@cedar.serverforest.com> <4882AE3A.8010400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1795785.lBuoVXoQex@cedar.serverforest.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > Derek Broughton said the following at 07/19/2008 07:48 PM : > >> >> Works for me - under "Sensor Browser"/"localhost". Now if only I could >> figure out how to put that into the system tray. > > Right click on panel | Add applet | System Guard Doh! I had the _application_ in the panel, not the applet. Much better now, thanks. My thanks to whoever raised this question! My acpi thermal module doesn't always work after resuming from hibernate, and when the laptop's on my lap, I know it, but if it's on the desk I'd like to see when the temperature's rising. A simple "modprobe -r thermal; modprobe thermal" fixes it, but even telling acpi _and_ pm_utils to unload/reload the module doesn't seem to do the job, so having the temperature display in the panel is useful. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 16:37:14 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:37:14 -0300 Subject: Temp applet? References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> <488271C4.1010806@gmail.com> <880dece00807200030i6f8a05e8uccc1b847134ae6f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5709854.qU6TjO3FPl@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/7/20 D. R. Evans : >> >> The great thing about Ksysguard (to my mind) is that you can easily >> monitor the status of many things on multiple computers. I'm not sure >> that Kima allows that. > > Are you referring to the panel applet? Because I do not see how to > configure it for displaying tempurature. It takes two steps. Add the sysguard applet to the panel, _then_ open ksysguard (the application, not the applet), drill down in the Sensor Browser, through localhost/ACPI/... to the temperature sensor, then drag it from KSysguard and drop it onto the applet. I know it works, because I've just set mine up! -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 17:18:57 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:18:57 -0300 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <1215089788.23573.1.camel@ultimate-desktop> <486CD33D.2080109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Kawada wrote: > lots of people seem to be having this problem (there is another thread > about this in the mailing list too) but that I've seen there is no answer > yet. > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:25 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: >> > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 08:55 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> In firefox 3 I clicked on a mailto: link and was told to choose >> >> between kmail and yahoo mail. However, clicking in Kmail absolutely >> >> nothing happens. Anyone knows why and how to make FF3 call >> >> Kmail/Kontact when clicking on mailto: links? >> >> >> >> btw on Kubuntu 8.04 w updates, >> >> >> >> Sinclair >> > >> > Sinclair, have you gone to System/Preferences/Preferred Applications? >> > If not, you can set several things there including default email, >> > browser, >> etc. >> Yes I have and FF is set as browser and Kmail as mail application. This >> comes from "inside" Firefox as it suggest Yahoo mail as alternative >> (that I NEVER use...) Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, and now I find myself up against the same problem. There is a good howto at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-links-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all occurrences of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke kmail from inside FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in To/Subject yet. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Jul 20 17:18:57 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:18:57 -0300 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <1215089788.23573.1.camel@ultimate-desktop> <486CD33D.2080109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Kawada wrote: > lots of people seem to be having this problem (there is another thread > about this in the mailing list too) but that I've seen there is no answer > yet. > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:25 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: >> > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 08:55 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> In firefox 3 I clicked on a mailto: link and was told to choose >> >> between kmail and yahoo mail. However, clicking in Kmail absolutely >> >> nothing happens. Anyone knows why and how to make FF3 call >> >> Kmail/Kontact when clicking on mailto: links? >> >> >> >> btw on Kubuntu 8.04 w updates, >> >> >> >> Sinclair >> > >> > Sinclair, have you gone to System/Preferences/Preferred Applications? >> > If not, you can set several things there including default email, >> > browser, >> etc. >> Yes I have and FF is set as browser and Kmail as mail application. This >> comes from "inside" Firefox as it suggest Yahoo mail as alternative >> (that I NEVER use...) Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, and now I find myself up against the same problem. There is a good howto at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-links-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all occurrences of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke kmail from inside FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in the Subject yet. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 19:17:00 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:17:00 +0300 Subject: Temp applet? In-Reply-To: <5709854.qU6TjO3FPl@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00807191014n63b966d1i848640008623304b@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00807191100s42d9bb02re63358eaa614b5a8@mail.gmail.com> <488271C4.1010806@gmail.com> <880dece00807200030i6f8a05e8uccc1b847134ae6f9@mail.gmail.com> <5709854.qU6TjO3FPl@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00807201217h477d49dasf1f64edc05bd19e3@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/20 Derek Broughton : > It takes two steps. Add the sysguard applet to the panel, _then_ open > ksysguard (the application, not the applet), drill down in the Sensor > Browser, through localhost/ACPI/... to the temperature sensor, then drag it > from KSysguard and drop it onto the applet. I know it works, because I've > just set mine up! Thank you Derek! I have it configured now. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Jul 20 19:46:12 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:46:12 -0400 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 20 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: > Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad > websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, and > now I find myself up against the same problem.  There is a good howto at: > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-link >s-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 > > for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all occurrences > of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke kmail from inside > FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in To/Subject yet. Late but OK..... The link above worked........ Thanks! From art.alexion at verizon.net Sun Jul 20 20:57:23 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:57:23 -0400 Subject: Firefox lost the language Spanish In-Reply-To: <2345172.H8ERbjeSPV@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <487B59B6.8010002@netplc.com> <200807140817.23529.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <2345172.H8ERbjeSPV@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807201657.35192.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 14 July 2008 11:40:10 Derek Broughton wrote: > While essentially true, it seems to me that the upgrade from Gutsy > added "hardy-proposed" to my sources, but I might have done it myself :-) A while back there was a problem with the version of some package that was in the regular repos that was fixed in hardy-proposed. I don't remember the package anymore, and I actually forgot that I enabled it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I even tried making both sides use shared key but that didn't work either. Any ideas? I don't really want to run with a wide-open router. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Don't need an oven timer; just the smoke alarm. From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Jul 21 05:21:54 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:21:54 +0300 Subject: New Dell E (mini-inspiron) Message-ID: <48841CF2.3030904@rmk.co.il> Anybody know if there will be a Kubuntu version of the 'Ubuntu Remix' for the the new Dell E (Is it made in India?)? See: http://www.engadget.com/photos/dell-e-and-e-slim-revealed-taking-on-eee-and-air-in-one-fell-swoop/859922/ There seems to be a persistent rumor that the Linux OS will be Ubuntu Remix. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 06:46:06 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:46:06 +0200 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad >> websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, and >> now I find myself up against the same problem. There is a good howto at: >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-link >> s-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 >> >> for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all occurrences >> of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke kmail from inside >> FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in To/Subject yet. > > Late but OK..... > > The link above worked........ Thanks! > After some attempts I also got it working, thanks! Been looking for this "forever". Strange that it is so tricky to get something so seemingly simple to work. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 07:11:20 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:11:20 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "O. Sinclair" writes: > >> Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the >> original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried >> just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! > > Edit the file > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > change > Wallpaper[$e]=... *whatever you changed it to* > to > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > > Make sure /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > contains the line > Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ > > Restart kdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart > or reboot > Maybe I am not making myself clear: the background picture is not an issue but the login picture with Kubuntu-logo. That has "gone missing" and I can not find a way to get it back. Regards Sinclair From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Jul 21 09:47:00 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:47:00 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48845B14.8070707@rmk.co.il> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear everybody > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am > looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always > carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. > > At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version > 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main > technical specifications: > 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM > (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB > (version 1000). > More technical details: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee > PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? > > Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in > combination with Kubuntu? > > Thanks for your reflections. > > > Bas. > Have you seen the new Dell E? Google on dellmini and/or mini-inspiron Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 10:03:59 2008 From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:03:59 +0100 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <48845B14.8070707@rmk.co.il> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <48845B14.8070707@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200807211103.59436.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> Hi > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of > > 'ASUS Eeee PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If > > so, how? Sound and video work straight out of the box with the 701 8Gb version.   You can install from a USB stick but I find a USB based CD or DVD drive is a lot easier.  Plug in and press ESC twice on start up.   More info..... http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:kubuntu:home http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Jul 21 12:16:32 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:16:32 -0300 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <3949592.Yh08P7ArWg@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 20 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad >> websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, and >> now I find myself up against the same problem.  There is a good howto at: >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-link >>s-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 >> >> for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all >> occurrences of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke >> kmail from inside FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in >> To/Subject yet. I tried to modify that before it posted... Actually the "To" gets supplied properly when clicking on a "mailto:" link, but "subject" doesn't get filled in. It's useless for using the "Send link" menu option, as neither the subject or body are filled. I gave up and decided to have it use GMail as my mailer. > > Late but OK..... > > The link above worked........ Thanks! It's certainly a correct start. Perhaps somebody else has an understanding of Netscape's RDF format and knows how to supply the remaining parameters. -- derek From glen20 at exemail.com.au Mon Jul 21 12:36:04 2008 From: glen20 at exemail.com.au (Glen Cunningham) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:36:04 +1000 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807212236.04801.glen20@exemail.com.au> G'day Jerry, On Monday 21 July 2008 21:00 Jerry Lapham wrote: > I have an Acer Aspire 3002LCi laptop on which I've installed Kubuntu > 8.04 on a brand new empty drive. It has a Broadcom 802.11g Network > Adapter with the BCM4318 chipset. > > I have a D-Lind DI-524 wireless router. If I set Security to "None" I > can get it to connect. But if I set Security to "WEP", Authentication > to "Open System", WEP Encryption to "128bit", and Key Type to "ASCII" > with a 13 character Key, it won't connect. It doesn't work with 64bit > either. Very similar system here. D-Link DWL-G700 with ... Authentication "OpenSystem" WEP "Enabled" WEP Encryption "128Bit" Key Type "Hex (26 characters)" > > KNetworkManager gives me the option of "WEP Passphrase" or "WEP 40/104 > bit-bit ASCII". Neither work when I type my 13 character key in the > "Passphrase" field. I even tried making both sides use shared key but > that didn't work either. > > Any ideas? I don't really want to run with a wide-open router. I also could not get any sense out of KNetworkManager - it seems to be broken :-( What I did was put the needed entries in /etc/network/interfaces like so .... auto lo ath0 #<--- ath0 is my Atheros-chipped Wifi card iface lo inet loopback # Gotta have lo iface ath0 inet dhcp # dhcp is easier than static here wireless-mode managed wireless-essid MyESSIDhere # Case-sensitive wireless-key 123456789abcdef123456789ab # Your 26-char Hex key A lot of messing about, but it works and is better than running "wide-open". Note : Your Broadcom thingy will probably be eth1 (eth0 being your onboard-builtin ethernet interface) anyway ifconfig -a should show what is what. HTH Glen From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Jul 21 12:39:38 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:39:38 -0300 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On Sunday 20 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >>> Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad >>> websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, >>> and >>> now I find myself up against the same problem. There is a good howto >>> at: >>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-link >>> s-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 >>> >>> for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all >>> occurrences of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke >>> kmail from inside FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in >>> To/Subject yet. >> >> Late but OK..... >> >> The link above worked........ Thanks! >> > After some attempts I also got it working, thanks! Been looking for this > "forever". Strange that it is so tricky to get something so seemingly > simple to work. This patch, with the necessary fix to work properly with KMail, really should be part of Kubuntu, but it seems like a serious flaw in FF that it doesn't provided simpler ways to invoke mail clients. -- derek From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 13:06:23 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:23 +0200 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <9172112.ZaOzBLCOW3@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <488489CF.4070909@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On Sunday 20 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> Sorry to come so late to this - I don't use FF for anything except bad >>>> websites that don't behave properly with Konqueror, but my wife does, >>>> and >>>> now I find myself up against the same problem. There is a good howto >>>> at: >>>> > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3.0-email-link >>>> s-no-thunderbird-650845/page2.html#post3195097 >>>> >>>> for making FF3 work with Thunderbird, and simply replacing all >>>> occurrences of "thunderbird" with "kmail" makes it possible to invoke >>>> kmail from inside FF3, but I haven't actually figured out how to fill in >>>> To/Subject yet. >>> Late but OK..... >>> >>> The link above worked........ Thanks! >>> >> After some attempts I also got it working, thanks! Been looking for this >> "forever". Strange that it is so tricky to get something so seemingly >> simple to work. > > This patch, with the necessary fix to work properly with KMail, really > should be part of Kubuntu, but it seems like a serious flaw in FF that it > doesn't provided simpler ways to invoke mail clients. Amen to that... the "applications" in the Preferences is still empty.... From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jul 21 13:50:49 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:50:49 -0400 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <3949592.Yh08P7ArWg@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <3949592.Yh08P7ArWg@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807210950.50042.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 21 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: > I tried to modify that before it posted...  Actually the "To" gets supplied > properly when clicking on a "mailto:" link, but "subject" doesn't get > filled in.  It's useless for using the "Send link" menu option, as neither > the subject or body are filled.  I gave up and decided to have it use GMail > as my mailer. > > > Late but OK..... > > > > The link above worked........   Thanks! > > It's certainly a correct start.  Perhaps somebody else has an understanding > of Netscape's RDF format and knows how to supply the remaining parameters. I don't recall ever seeing a 'mailto' link with a subject in it... what does one look like? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jul 21 13:52:35 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:52:35 -0400 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807210952.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 21 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: > This patch, with the necessary fix to work properly with KMail, really > should be part of Kubuntu, but it seems like a serious flaw in FF that it > doesn't provided simpler ways to invoke mail clients. One would think that the 'Applications' tab in the FF3 prefs would have something in it or at least be usable.  I think they have something missing there. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 14:09:24 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:09:24 +0300 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/21 O. Sinclair : > John L Fjellstad wrote: > > "O. Sinclair" writes: > > > >> Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the > >> original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried > >> just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! > > > > Edit the file > > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > > change > > Wallpaper[$e]=... *whatever you changed it to* > > to > > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > > > > Make sure /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > > contains the line > > Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ > > > > Restart kdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart > > or reboot > > > Maybe I am not making myself clear: the background picture is not an > issue but the login picture with Kubuntu-logo. That has "gone missing" > and I can not find a way to get it back. > > could you be talking about the login splash screen? the one that says what's happening during the login process? it says stuff like "starting services" and "initializing peripherals" and at the end says "KDE is up and running". is this what you want to change? -- Rodney Dangerfield - "I worked in a pet store and people would ask how big I would get." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 14:26:59 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:26:59 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <200807160812.36062.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <487E1749.1090308@sbcglobal.net> <487E3AC6.5010708@gmail.com> <48805E2F.6030403@gmail.com> <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> Willy Hamra wrote: > 2008/7/21 O. Sinclair >: > > John L Fjellstad wrote: > > "O. Sinclair" > writes: > > > >> Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the > >> original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I > tried > >> just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come > close! > > > > Edit the file > > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > > change > > Wallpaper[$e]=... *whatever you changed it to* > > to > > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > > > > Make sure /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > > contains the line > > Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ > > > > Restart kdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart > > or reboot > > > Maybe I am not making myself clear: the background picture is not an > issue but the login picture with Kubuntu-logo. That has "gone missing" > and I can not find a way to get it back. > > could you be talking about the login splash screen? the one that says > what's happening during the login process? it says stuff like "starting > services" and "initializing peripherals" and at the end says "KDE is up > and running". is this what you want to change? > no - the one you actually type your username/password in Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 15:22:20 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:22:20 +0200 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: <200807210952.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807210952.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/21 Bruce Marshall : > On Monday 21 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >> This patch, with the necessary fix to work properly with KMail, really >> should be part of Kubuntu, but it seems like a serious flaw in FF that it >> doesn't provided simpler ways to invoke mail clients. > > One would think that the 'Applications' tab in the FF3 prefs would have > something in it or at least be usable. I think they have something missing > there. It have if you install firefox-gnome-support something, but it still don't let you add or remove anything from the GUI, just switch between some preconfigured programs. / Jonas From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 16:32:52 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:32:52 +0200 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 In-Reply-To: References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <488430AE.3090806@gmail.com> <1279212.j1Rz39anxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807210952.35322.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4884BA34.9060508@gmail.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/7/21 Bruce Marshall : >> On Monday 21 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >>> This patch, with the necessary fix to work properly with KMail, really >>> should be part of Kubuntu, but it seems like a serious flaw in FF that it >>> doesn't provided simpler ways to invoke mail clients. >> One would think that the 'Applications' tab in the FF3 prefs would have >> something in it or at least be usable. I think they have something missing >> there. > > It have if you install firefox-gnome-support something, but it still > don't let you add or remove anything from the GUI, just switch between > some preconfigured programs. So it seems that a "firefox-kde-support" something is missing then with like kmail preconfigured... or that the Applications thing actually was configurable. From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 21 16:36:22 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:36:22 -0400 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Bas Roufs wrote: > > Dear everybody > > > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am > > looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always > > carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. > > > > At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version > > 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main > > technical specifications: > > 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM > > (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB > > (version 1000). > > More technical details: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > > > Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) > > > > Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee > > PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? > > > > Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in > > combination with Kubuntu? > > > > Thanks for your reflections. > > > > > > Bas. Bas, All I can say is that so far I cannot get Wifi to work with Kubuntu 8.04 HH. As with my desktop it does not see the Wifi card with 'lshw', but does see it with 'lspci', go figure. When loading Kubuntu HH, it said it was loading the restricted drivers for the wlan card, but that is the extent of support. Of course, I should have mentioned earlier that I have an ASUS Eee900 linux that came with Xandros. The Xandros will work fine with Wifi, but the distro is so bad that I can't recommend it unless that person is brain damaged. Kubuntu HH does come up in 1024x780(approx.), which is nice. Just don't plan on using wlan/Wifi. So far, I have not found anyone willing/able to help with the problem. I have been to many sites checking out the various workarounds for this problem but have been, needless to say, completely unsuccessful. Good luck! Tom From richard.ibbotson at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 16:53:23 2008 From: richard.ibbotson at gmail.com (Richard Ibbotson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:53:23 +0100 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? In-Reply-To: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> References: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200807211753.23964.richard.ibbotson@gmail.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 17:36:22 Tom Bell wrote: > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > Bas Roufs wrote: > > > Dear everybody > > > > > > A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's > > > why I am looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is > > > more easy to always carry with me, but which can be combined > > > with Kubuntu. > Bas, > All I can say is that so far I cannot get Wifi to work with Kubuntu > 8.04 HH. As with my desktop it does not see the Wifi card with > 'lshw', but does see it with 'lspci', go figure. http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:kubuntu:home http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly " Enabling wifi Wireless internet does not work on the Eee on installation. To update the drivers, open a terminal window (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and enter the following commands: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install build-essential wget 'http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz' tar zxvf madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz cd madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007 make clean make sudo make install sudo reboot " Works fine on every EeePC I've seen :) -- Richard From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 21 17:19:14 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:19:14 -0400 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? In-Reply-To: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> References: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <4884C512.8060609@sbcglobal.net> Tom Bell wrote: > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > Bas Roufs wrote: > > >>> Dear everybody >>> >>> A few weeks ago, a laptop from me has been stolen again. That's why I am >>> looking for a lighter/ smaller laptop model that is more easy to always >>> carry with me, but which can be combined with Kubuntu. >>> >>> At present, I am considering "ASUS Eeee PC", version 901 or version >>> 1000. Both new versions seem to become available in September. Main >>> technical specifications: >>> 1,6 Ghz processor (both models), 1 GB RAM (version 901) or 2 GB RAM >>> (version 1000), 20 GB 'solid state disk' (version 901) or 40 GB >>> (version 1000). >>> More technical details: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC >>> >>> Both models are being sold along with the Linux distribution 'Xandros' >>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xandros) >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience at all with some version of 'ASUS Eeee >>> PC'? If you, did you already install Kubuntu on it? If so, how? >>> >>> Are there any other smaller model laptops you could advise me in >>> combination with Kubuntu? >>> >>> Thanks for your reflections. >>> >>> >>> Bas. >>> > Bas, > All I can say is that so far I cannot get Wifi to work with Kubuntu 8.04 > HH. As with my desktop it does not see the Wifi card with 'lshw', but > does see it with 'lspci', go figure. When loading Kubuntu HH, it said > it was loading the restricted drivers for the wlan card, but that is the > extent of support. Of course, I should have mentioned earlier that I > have an ASUS Eee900 linux that came with Xandros. The Xandros will work > fine with Wifi, but the distro is so bad that I can't recommend it > unless that person is brain damaged. Kubuntu HH does come up in > 1024x780(approx.), which is nice. Just don't plan on using wlan/Wifi. > So far, I have not found anyone willing/able to help with the problem. > I have been to many sites checking out the various workarounds for this > problem but have been, needless to say, completely unsuccessful. > Good luck! > > Tom > > Tom , do a lspci -vv and see if your wireless is the same that is in my Eee702, if it is the the same as below Subsystem: See if the Unknown device 1a3b:1026 is the same, then if you go to Madwifi and get this madwifi-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz driver and compile it works perfect in Fedora 8, it should compile in Ubuntu-8.04 with out any problems. It even works fine using WEP. 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Unknown device 1a3b:1026 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR- Kernel driver in use: ath_pci Kernel modules: ath_pci, ath5k From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Mon Jul 21 17:20:26 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:26 -0700 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807211020.26218.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 21 July 2008 12:11:20 am O. Sinclair wrote: > John L Fjellstad wrote: > > "O. Sinclair" writes: > >> Have to continue this thread - now I messed up so bad I want the > >> original Gutsy KDM login screen and background back - but HOW? I tried > >> just about every setting in Login Manager and none of them come close! > > > > Edit the file > > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > > change > > Wallpaper[$e]=... *whatever you changed it to* > > to > > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > > > > Make sure /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > > contains the line > > Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ > > > > Restart kdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart > > or reboot > > Maybe I am not making myself clear: the background picture is not an > issue but the login picture with Kubuntu-logo. That has "gone missing" > and I can not find a way to get it back. On my KDE system in the "System" or the "Settings" menu there is "Login Window" and the second tab, "Local" will allow you to change that screen. However, this machine was first installed with Gnome; I added Kubuntu and Xubuntu afterwords. I never changed the login window over to kdm but just stayed with the original gdm. Whatever session I choose is done in the "Options" menu in the login window. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Mon Jul 21 18:27:13 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:27:13 -0400 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: <200807212236.04801.glen20@exemail.com.au> References: <200807212236.04801.glen20@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <200807211427.13435.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 8:36:04 am Glen Cunningham wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008 21:00 Jerry Lapham wrote: > > I have an Acer Aspire 3002LCi laptop on which I've installed Kubuntu > > 8.04 on a brand new empty drive. It has a Broadcom 802.11g Network > > Adapter with the BCM4318 chipset. > > > > I have a D-Lind DI-524 wireless router. If I set Security to "None" I > > can get it to connect. But if I set Security to "WEP", Authentication > > to "Open System", WEP Encryption to "128bit", and Key Type to "ASCII" > > with a 13 character Key, it won't connect. It doesn't work with 64bit > > either. > > Very similar system here. D-Link DWL-G700 with ... > Authentication "OpenSystem" > WEP "Enabled" > WEP Encryption "128Bit" > Key Type "Hex (26 characters)" > > > KNetworkManager gives me the option of "WEP Passphrase" or "WEP 40/104 > > bit-bit ASCII". Neither work when I type my 13 character key in the > > "Passphrase" field. I even tried making both sides use shared key but > > that didn't work either. > > > > Any ideas? I don't really want to run with a wide-open router. > > I also could not get any sense out of KNetworkManager - it seems to be > broken :-( What I did was put the needed entries > in /etc/network/interfaces like so .... > > auto lo ath0 #<--- ath0 is my Atheros-chipped Wifi card > iface lo inet loopback # Gotta have lo > iface ath0 inet dhcp # dhcp is easier than static here > wireless-mode managed > wireless-essid MyESSIDhere # Case-sensitive > wireless-key 123456789abcdef123456789ab # Your 26-char Hex key Thanks! It works! When I booted it came up attached, ready to browse. Now, the next question: How do I find and attach to a different router -- like at a motel or my son's or my daughter's houses? -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Sheryl Crow re toilet paper: all-we-are-saying-is-give-one-piece-a-chance. From john.j35 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 18:33:15 2008 From: john.j35 at gmail.com (John Pierce) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:33:15 -0500 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807211020.26218.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <87r69r2b9j.fsf@fjellstad.org> <48843698.4040909@gmail.com> <200807211020.26218.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: Go to the system settings advanced tab and on the appearance tab check the radio button for the logo. You will need to click the administrator tab to do this. -- John Registered Linux User 263680, get counted at http://counter.li.org From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 18:54:14 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:54:14 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 16:26:59 O. Sinclair wrote: > no - the one you actually type your username/password in So, what you want is to go back to the original state, is that it? As I said you should be able to do that by means of kcontrol provided kdm is installed. Kcontrol and kdm are not installed by default. If you do have them, what do you see in kcontrol -> System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager? -- lanzen From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:18:48 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:18:48 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4884E118.7020609@gmail.com> lanzen wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008 16:26:59 O. Sinclair wrote: > >> no - the one you actually type your username/password in > > So, what you want is to go back to the original state, is that it? > > As I said you should be able to do that by means of kcontrol provided kdm is > installed. Kcontrol and kdm are not installed by default. > > If you do have them, what do you see in kcontrol -> System Administration -> > KDM Theme Manager? > I have no KDM theme manager there and I think that is exactly the problem. How does one activate/install that one? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:22:17 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:22:17 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> lanzen wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008 16:26:59 O. Sinclair wrote: > >> no - the one you actually type your username/password in > > So, what you want is to go back to the original state, is that it? > > As I said you should be able to do that by means of kcontrol provided kdm is > installed. Kcontrol and kdm are not installed by default. > > If you do have them, what do you see in kcontrol -> System Administration -> > KDM Theme Manager? > kdm is installed, as I understand it that is the window manager (gdm for gnome, kdm for KDE and so on). HA I found it - one has to install kdmtheme package! Will report back soon if that did the trick. From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:28:14 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:28:14 +0200 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu - request for advise? In-Reply-To: <48845B14.8070707@rmk.co.il> References: <486E13FF.5010802@gmail.com> <48845B14.8070707@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <4884E34E.7020000@gmail.com> Dear Everybody Thanks again for all the useful reflections of today and the past few days. Below I walk through some remaining points of attention. > Have you seen the new Dell E? Google on dellmini and/or mini-inspiron > > Today I checked it out, Nigel. Indeed, it looks interesting too. With respect to the questions in your message "New Dell E (mini-inspiron)", I can probably help you 'half way'. > There seems to be a persistent rumor that the Linux OS will be Ubuntu Remix. > This website confirms the rumour: http://www.miniinspiron.net/ However, I did find only a partial answer to this question: > Anybody know if there will be a Kubuntu version of the 'Ubuntu Remix' for the the new Dell E...? I am wondering whether it would be possible to install a kind of extra Kubuntu layer on the 'Ubuntu Remix' engine at the Dell E. Earlier in this thread, Ronnie Tucker mentioned his experience with Kubuntu 8.04/KDE 4.1 at the Asus EEE 701 - a minilaptop with specifications that look similar to those of Dell E. > I did a write up on my blog about installing Kubuntu 8.04 Remix on the EEE: http://ronnietucker.co.uk/blog/asus-eee-701-with-kubuntu-804-kde41/ > > Worked really well, even with the KDE 4.1 desktop effects on... The specs of the Dell E look quite similar to those of the Asus EEE 701. That's why I can imagine that Kubuntu at the Dell E must be realist option too. Richard Ibbotson wrote: > You can install from a USB stick .... Does anyone have experience with installing from a USB stick? What needs to be done to get the stick functioning as a 'live CD'? > ...but I find a USB based CD or DVD drive is a lot easier. Can one or a few persons mention a few examples of such external 'USB based CD or DVD disk drives'? What are the experiences with each of them? Such questions are relevant for different mini laptops I have seen so far. Finally, I am still wondering what exactly is the difference between a 'Hard Disk' (HD) and a 'Solid State Disk' (SSD). So far for this moment. Respectfully Yours, Bas Roufs. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:38:48 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:38:48 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4884E5C8.2090300@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > lanzen wrote: >> On Monday 21 July 2008 16:26:59 O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> no - the one you actually type your username/password in >> So, what you want is to go back to the original state, is that it? >> >> As I said you should be able to do that by means of kcontrol provided kdm is >> installed. Kcontrol and kdm are not installed by default. >> >> If you do have them, what do you see in kcontrol -> System Administration -> >> KDM Theme Manager? >> > kdm is installed, as I understand it that is the window manager (gdm for > gnome, kdm for KDE and so on). HA I found it - one has to install > kdmtheme package! Will report back soon if that did the trick. > well kdm theme manager is there but the Login Manager seems to override completely whatever I set in KDM Theme... so no luck whatsoever yet. I can see and choose the Kubuntu kdm theme but nothing changes. Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:44:14 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:44:14 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <15edeae40807210709o124ec697ib6cfb92f99aaa880@mail.gmail.com> <48849CB3.4020908@gmail.com> <200807212054.14921.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/21 O. Sinclair : > kdm is installed, as I understand it that is the window manager (gdm for > gnome, kdm for KDE and so on). Hi! KDM (Kde Display Manager) is the login manager for KDE and has nothing to do with any window manager. KDE's window manager is Kwin. / Jonas From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:52:33 2008 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:52:33 +0100 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <4884E5C8.2090300@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <4884E5C8.2090300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807212052.34189.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 20:38:48 O. Sinclair wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > > lanzen wrote: > >> On Monday 21 July 2008 16:26:59 O. Sinclair wrote: > >>> no - the one you actually type your username/password in > >> > >> So, what you want is to go back to the original state, is that it? > >> > >> As I said you should be able to do that by means of kcontrol provided > >> kdm is installed. Kcontrol and kdm are not installed by default. > >> > >> If you do have them, what do you see in kcontrol -> System > >> Administration -> KDM Theme Manager? > > > > kdm is installed, as I understand it that is the window manager (gdm for > > gnome, kdm for KDE and so on). HA I found it - one has to install > > kdmtheme package! Will report back soon if that did the trick. > > well kdm theme manager is there but the Login Manager seems to override > completely whatever I set in KDM Theme... so no luck whatsoever yet. I > can see and choose the Kubuntu kdm theme but nothing changes. What happens if you go into the login manager via Kcontrol -> System Administration -> Login manager? If I go in via the menu, I get the gdm msnager. I have to go via kcontrol to get kdm. Lisi From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 21:17:50 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:17:50 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 21:44:14 Jonas Norlander wrote: > KDM (Kde Display Manager) is the login manager for KDE and has nothing > to do with any window manager. KDE's window manager is Kwin. Exactely! So, Sinclair, just have a look in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ where you should find one or more folders, depending on how many themes you got. By default you should have three: Circles, kubuntu and kubuntu-nouser-list. Have you got that? Any way try a "sudo apt-get install kdm" and tell us what happens. -- lanzen From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 21:32:33 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:32:33 +0200 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: <200807211427.13435.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <200807212236.04801.glen20@exemail.com.au> <200807211427.13435.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <20080721213233.GA5916@slug.azmolan> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:27, Jerry Lapham wrote: > Thanks! It works! When I booted it came up attached, ready to browse. Now, > the next question: How do I find and attach to a different router -- like at > a motel or my son's or my daughter's houses? "iwlist scan" gives you a list of all available access points in range. Granted, only if they are configured to broadcast their SSID. Simply switch out the ESSID in the config file then and restart networking. For wireless roaming you will have to configure wpa_supplicant, there are plenty of guides around and it's actually not that hard to set up. -- Greetings, Gordon. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 22 01:52:36 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:52:36 -0300 Subject: kmail/kontact and FF3 References: <486C77D3.2000700@gmail.com> <200807201546.12988.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <3949592.Yh08P7ArWg@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807210950.50042.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1311197.6tixJ8pGpX@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >> I tried to modify that before it posted...  Actually the "To" gets >> supplied properly when clicking on a "mailto:" link, but "subject" >> doesn't get filled in.  It's useless for using the "Send link" menu >> option, as neither the subject or body are filled.  I gave up and decided >> to have it use GMail as my mailer. >> >> > Late but OK..... >> > >> > The link above worked........   Thanks! >> >> It's certainly a correct start.  Perhaps somebody else has an >> understanding of Netscape's RDF format and knows how to supply the >> remaining parameters. > > I don't recall ever seeing a 'mailto' link with a subject in it... what > does one look like? > mailto://user at domain?subject=abc&body=def It's pretty common, and certainly works from konqueror to invoke kmail properly initialized. -- derek From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Jul 22 02:12:44 2008 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:12:44 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? In-Reply-To: <4884C512.8060609@sbcglobal.net> References: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> <4884C512.8060609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200807220512.45092.dgvirtual@akl.lt> I have installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my wife's eeepc 900. Everything works except for hibernate (suspend does). Webcam is quirky at times... I guess asus eee pc is (or will be) one of the best supported laptops on ubuntu. it has even got its own kernel prebuilt, so you dont have to mess with compiliation to enable webcam, wireless and so on. Have a look at my eeepc del.icio.us links: http://del.icio.us/dgvirtual/eeepc Donatas From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 22 02:31:11 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:31:11 -0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? References: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> <4884C512.8060609@sbcglobal.net> <200807220512.45092.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Message-ID: <2090513.bQZHXmnsOs@cedar.serverforest.com> Donatas G. wrote: > I have installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my wife's eeepc 900. Everything works > except for hibernate (suspend does). Webcam is quirky at times... > > I guess asus eee pc is (or will be) one of the best supported laptops on > ubuntu. it has even got its own kernel prebuilt, so you dont have to mess > with compiliation to enable webcam, wireless and so on. This seems a little contradictory - it doesn't suspend and the webcam doesn't always work, but you don't have to mess with things? fwiw, there's no reason you can't run Kubuntu with the original working kernel. -- derek From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 04:01:29 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:01:29 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> lanzen wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008 21:44:14 Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> KDM (Kde Display Manager) is the login manager for KDE and has nothing >> to do with any window manager. KDE's window manager is Kwin. > > Exactely! So, Sinclair, just have a look in > /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ where you should find one or more folders, > depending on how many themes you got. By default you should have three: > Circles, kubuntu and kubuntu-nouser-list. Have you got that? > > Any way try a "sudo apt-get install kdm" and tell us what happens. > thanks for many replies and advice! As it is - yes kdm was installed all along but not kdmtheme. The themes are there however. I installed kdmtheme and tried to get back to the kubuntu theme. No luck, it seems Login Manager completely overrides. I found hints on the net that kdmtheme is broken in Gutsy, might be so in Hardy too. I will drill further later and report back. Sinclair From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Jul 22 04:41:41 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:41:41 +0300 Subject: Smaller model laptops in combination with Kubuntu, request for advice? In-Reply-To: <200807220512.45092.dgvirtual@akl.lt> References: <4884BB06.9020207@cfl.rr.com> <4884C512.8060609@sbcglobal.net> <200807220512.45092.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Message-ID: <48856505.80000@rmk.co.il> Donatas G. wrote: > I have installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my wife's eeepc 900. Everything works except > for hibernate (suspend does). Webcam is quirky at times... > > I guess asus eee pc is (or will be) one of the best supported laptops on > ubuntu. it has even got its own kernel prebuilt, so you dont have to mess > with compiliation to enable webcam, wireless and so on. > > Have a look at my eeepc del.icio.us links: > http://del.icio.us/dgvirtual/eeepc > > Donatas > What about the soon_to_be_released Dell E (known also as the mini-inspiron) - complete with Ubuntu Remix? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 07:29:27 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:29:27 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > lanzen wrote: >> On Monday 21 July 2008 21:44:14 Jonas Norlander wrote: >> >>> KDM (Kde Display Manager) is the login manager for KDE and has nothing >>> to do with any window manager. KDE's window manager is Kwin. >> Exactely! So, Sinclair, just have a look in >> /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ where you should find one or more folders, >> depending on how many themes you got. By default you should have three: >> Circles, kubuntu and kubuntu-nouser-list. Have you got that? >> >> Any way try a "sudo apt-get install kdm" and tell us what happens. >> > thanks for many replies and advice! As it is - yes kdm was installed all > along but not kdmtheme. The themes are there however. I installed > kdmtheme and tried to get back to the kubuntu theme. No luck, it seems > Login Manager completely overrides. > > I found hints on the net that kdmtheme is broken in Gutsy, might be so > in Hardy too. I will drill further later and report back. After much searching on the net and testing a few things I found what I needed in these 3 links: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120&forumpage=18&PHPSESSID=ca03e058b90 http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088004.0 http://www.tecpages.com/solution-for-kubuntu-710-gutsy-kdm-theme-not-changing/ The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc this setting Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ so messing with wallpaper in Login Manager completely hoses the kdm theme... as this changes exactly that line/setting. Now in /etc/default/kdm.d we find the file "20_kubuntu_default_settings" that contains these lines: USETHEME="true" THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu" USEBACKGROUND="true" WALLPAPER="/usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.jpg" USESYSTEMLOCALE="true" FACESOURCE="PreferUser" these are lines that KDM Thememanager expect to find in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc so I copied them there to section [X-*-Greeter] then I renamed 20_kubuntu_default_settings to something else. After reboot the Kubuntu KDM login theme shows up and you can use the KDM Thememanager to change between themes. Any change of wallpaper using the Login Manager again removes the KDM login theme as it changes the /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg to something else. Now whether one can call this a bug or not I do not know. I don't understand why Kubuntu team has chosen to move a certain section of the kdmrc file to its own file, thereby breaking the KDM ThemeManager functionality, and I certainly do not understand why the whole functionality of the KDM Themes hinges on whether the user sets a login background wallpaper via Login Manager or not. I think it is Launchpad bug time. Regards, Sinclair From h_taheri at isc.iranet.net Tue Jul 22 07:36:49 2008 From: h_taheri at isc.iranet.net (homayoon taheri) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:06:49 +0430 Subject: unkown server error from firefox Message-ID: <1216712209.12150.4.camel@ubuntu804> Hi friends In my ubuntu 8.04, I have set up modem connection to connect to internet, Modem successfully dialed and connect but when I open the firefox and type a URL It can not find any site, I can't find any setting in firefox preferences about dial up same as IE. Please tell me what should I do. thanks From dave at thefletchers.net Tue Jul 22 08:07:56 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:07:56 +0100 Subject: unkown server error from firefox In-Reply-To: <1216712209.12150.4.camel@ubuntu804> References: <1216712209.12150.4.camel@ubuntu804> Message-ID: <20080722080720.7BC0A12880B@eng.bcfdesigns.co.uk> At 08:36 22/07/2008, you wrote: >Hi friends >In my ubuntu 8.04, I have set up modem connection to connect to >internet, Modem successfully dialed and connect but when I open the >firefox and type a URL It can not find any site, I can't find any >setting in firefox preferences about dial up same as IE. Please tell me >what should I do. > >thanks Maybe your DNS is not working? Try putting http://72.14.207.99/ into firefox and see what happens. If that works, you could try visiting http://208.67.219.99/ and put the information there into the DNS servers setting in your network settings. I find it works well for me. (Thinking out loud) But if DNS wasn't working for you, would you still be able to send mail to this list? Don't know, but try the above and see if it works. Dave From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Tue Jul 22 08:57:12 2008 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:12 +0100 Subject: Can no longer share folders with Samba Message-ID: <200807220957.13127.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> I tried to download some files onto my Lifedrive last night, but kept getting some error code popping up. I then tried using Samba on the same computer that the shared folders were on and keep getting an error saying: The file or folder smb://mfraser at rachael/Downloads does not exist. I have followed the instructions at http://counter.li.orghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 ,but it still won't work. The last time I know it did work was on the 6th June. Has there been any changes to Samba since then that would cause this? -- Registered Linux User #466407 From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 09:04:52 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:04:52 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807221104.53169.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 09:29:27 O. Sinclair wrote: > The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > this setting > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ That's an interesting find. It all depends on the wallpaper: absurd! I think John suggested that a few days ago. Anyway I'm glad you got it sorted out. :) -- lanzen From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 09:50:39 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:50:39 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <200807221104.53169.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <200807221104.53169.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4885AD6F.60803@gmail.com> lanzen wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 09:29:27 O. Sinclair wrote: > >> The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in >> /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc >> this setting >> Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg >> will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ > > That's an interesting find. It all depends on the wallpaper: absurd! > > I think John suggested that a few days ago. Anyway I'm glad you got it sorted > out. :) > It is a known bug apparently but I made a contribution: http://tinyurl.com/6z39pd From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 22 14:38:51 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:38:51 -0300 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > After much searching on the net and testing a few things I found what I > needed in these 3 links: > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120&forumpage=18&PHPSESSID=ca03e058b90 > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088004.0 > http://www.tecpages.com/solution-for-kubuntu-710-gutsy-kdm-theme-not-changing/ > > The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > this setting > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ That doesn't make sense - it isn't looking at /etc/default/kdm.d/ from that snippet, and anyway, my /etc/default/kdm.d/ only contains 10_desktop-base, and everything's commented out. > so messing with wallpaper in Login Manager completely hoses the kdm > theme... That doesn't surprise me - it always has - but I don't think you're looking in quite the right place. -- derek From noguchi150 at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 16:30:22 2008 From: noguchi150 at gmail.com (Daniele Papale) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:22 +0200 Subject: kmail Message-ID: I can't send mail with kmail. The server responds: 5.5.1 Authentication Required. The problem is that with the same settin in thunderbird all work fine!! This is really frustrating -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 16:48:46 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:48:46 +0200 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30, Daniele Papale wrote: > I can't send mail with kmail. The server responds: 5.5.1 Authentication > Required. The problem is that with the same settin in thunderbird all work > fine!! This is really frustrating What are those settings? -- Greetings, Gordon. From noguchi150 at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 16:48:17 2008 From: noguchi150 at gmail.com (Daniele Papale) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:48:17 +0200 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> References: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: imap.gmail.com port: 993 ssl smtp.gmail.com port: 587 tls 2008/7/22 Gordon Schulz : > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30, Daniele Papale wrote: > > > I can't send mail with kmail. The server responds: 5.5.1 Authentication > > Required. The problem is that with the same settin in thunderbird all > work > > fine!! This is really frustrating > What are those settings? > -- > Greetings, > Gordon. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 17:09:06 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:09:06 +0200 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: References: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <20080722170906.GB6191@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:48, Daniele Papale wrote: > imap.gmail.com port: 993 ssl > smtp.gmail.com port: 587 tls Hmm, weird. Just configured my KMail with the exact same settings and it just worked (also using GMail). Double checked your username/password in the SMTP/General settings dialog? Authentication Method set to Plain? -- Greetings, Gordon. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Jul 22 16:34:08 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:34:08 +0200 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> >> The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in >> /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc >> this setting >> Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg >> will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ > > That doesn't make sense - it isn't looking at /etc/default/kdm.d/ from that > snippet, and anyway, my /etc/default/kdm.d/ only contains 10_desktop-base, > and everything's commented out. Did you check /etc/init.d/kdm? /etc/init.d/kdm will call /etc/default/kdm.d iff Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ and Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Jul 22 16:35:47 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:35:47 +0200 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <871w1l5124.fsf@fjellstad.org> "O. Sinclair" writes: > The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc > this setting > Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ I don't think it's a Kubuntu thing, but rather a Debian thing -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From noguchi150 at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 17:11:15 2008 From: noguchi150 at gmail.com (Daniele Papale) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:15 +0200 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: <20080722170906.GB6191@slug.azmolan> References: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> <20080722170906.GB6191@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: It's a little bit embarassing for me but you're right. thank you so much!!! 2008/7/22 Gordon Schulz : > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:48, Daniele Papale wrote: > > > imap.gmail.com port: 993 ssl > > smtp.gmail.com port: 587 tls > > Hmm, weird. Just configured my KMail with the exact same settings and it > just worked (also using GMail). Double checked your username/password in > the SMTP/General settings dialog? Authentication Method set to Plain? > -- > Greetings, > Gordon. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Tue Jul 22 17:12:31 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:12:31 -0700 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807221012.31393.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 09:30:22 am Daniele Papale wrote: > I can't send mail with kmail. The server responds: 5.5.1 Authentication > Required. The problem is that with the same settin in thunderbird all work > fine!! This is really frustrating The setting are in "Config KMail", "Accounts", "Sending". To modify, see in the "General" tab that the "Server requires authentication" is not checked. Also check in the security tab that encryption says "none". Also check that you indeed have the correct spelling for your smtp server. I had a two day problem trying to get mine to send mail and had entered the address as smpt.xmail.com rather than smtp.xmail.com, I never saw it was wrong! Now, if you DO need Authentication, recheck your password. On my account that needs this, KDE wallet caused so many problems with it that I finally found out how to disable it. Life got MUCH better! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 17:37:36 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:36 +0200 Subject: kmail In-Reply-To: References: <20080722164846.GA6191@slug.azmolan> <20080722170906.GB6191@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <20080722173736.GA6288@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11, Daniele Papale wrote: > It's a little bit embarassing for me but you're right. thank you so much!!! Happens. Glad a little poking helped. :) -- Gordon. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 22 17:28:09 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:28:09 -0300 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> >>> The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in >>> /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc >>> this setting >>> Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg >>> will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ >> >> That doesn't make sense - it isn't looking at /etc/default/kdm.d/ from >> that snippet, and anyway, my /etc/default/kdm.d/ only contains >> 10_desktop-base, and everything's commented out. > > Did you check /etc/init.d/kdm? /etc/init.d/kdm will call > /etc/default/kdm.d iff Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ > and Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg As I said, he wasn't looking in "quite" the right place - implying he is on the right track, but there was more to the story. Anyway, that gives you the simple answer: use the Login Manager to set the wallpaper back to "default_blue.jpg" and your theme should be used. -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 18:14:28 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:14:28 -0400 Subject: font substitution Message-ID: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> I recall a font substitution app is part of kcontrol which I can't find in 3.5.9. I have a decorative font that I am using for some designs that seems to get used instead of Times New Roman in kmail and konqueror. It is getting annoying having to keep installing and removing this font. How is font substitution now handled? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 18:37:53 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:37:53 +0200 Subject: font substitution In-Reply-To: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080722183753.GA6298@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:14, Art Alexion wrote: > I recall a font substitution app is part of kcontrol which I can't find in > 3.5.9. > > I have a decorative font that I am using for some designs that seems to get > used instead of Times New Roman in kmail and konqueror. It is getting > annoying having to keep installing and removing this font. > > How is font substitution now handled? Don't know about that app in kcontrol... But you can always edit .fonts.conf in your $HOME directory. This example replaces the Helvetica family with a prettier one - adjust to your needs. [---------cut----------------] Helvetica Nimbus Sans [---------cut----------------] -- Gordon. From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 19:09:51 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:09:51 -0400 Subject: font substitution In-Reply-To: <20080722183753.GA6298@slug.azmolan> References: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> <20080722183753.GA6298@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807221509.57168.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 2:37:53 pm Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:14, Art Alexion wrote: > > I recall a font substitution app is part of kcontrol which I can't find > > in 3.5.9. > > > > I have a decorative font that I am using for some designs that seems to > > get used instead of Times New Roman in kmail and konqueror. It is > > getting annoying having to keep installing and removing this font. > > > > How is font substitution now handled? > > Don't know about that app in kcontrol... But you can always edit > .fonts.conf in your $HOME directory. > > This example replaces the Helvetica family with a prettier one - adjust > to your needs. > > [---------cut----------------] > > > Helvetica > > > Nimbus Sans > > > [---------cut----------------] > -- > Gordon. Thanks. Is there a global equivalent? The reason I ask is that KDE is doing a substitution that I don't want it to do, not the corollary. I want it to stop. Nothing in my current file seems to be triggering that. Also, which app can I use to examine a font to see what the attributes are, and perhaps edit them. I am thinking the decorative font that keeps jumping in for Times New Roman has its attributes screwed up. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIYwhULG/oYII0YuAQIxmwP9FKjvEG9BU+sugpND2d36hGBwdIbJ235q 4lSKGvfFDJSo33n1y4v3g3ajoYv+32ZYpC3ENeE8qQdtGa3S7b8oSnjA/du4jGfF VIGLowSaqU3UhlFY+R/x4HQLhKLx9iBrGvEcWPk1Y0MpObwTWd0NINCT4SzwxIRN tICloxpksq0= =Ar21 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 19:46:10 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:46:10 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > John L Fjellstad wrote: > >> Derek Broughton writes: >> >>> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >>>> The Kubuntu team has set up a system where in >>>> /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc >>>> this setting >>>> Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg >>>> will enable kdm startup script to read /etc/default/kdm.d/ >>> That doesn't make sense - it isn't looking at /etc/default/kdm.d/ from >>> that snippet, and anyway, my /etc/default/kdm.d/ only contains >>> 10_desktop-base, and everything's commented out. >> Did you check /etc/init.d/kdm? /etc/init.d/kdm will call >> /etc/default/kdm.d iff Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@ >> and Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg > > As I said, he wasn't looking in "quite" the right place - implying he is on > the right track, but there was more to the story. Anyway, that gives you > the simple answer: use the Login Manager to set the wallpaper back > to "default_blue.jpg" and your theme should be used. Well I got that from one of the links I provided. Even so I think it is a more than odd way to control the KDM theme that if you set another login background wallpaper the whole thing stops working (kdm theme that is) so I still see it as a bug and suggest the maintainer rethinks. don't know why your (Derek) /etc/default/kdm.d does not have the 20_default... but I checked on 2 computers and it is there (both of them Hardy 8.04 clean installs). And the lines in it seems to refer to the KDM login theme. Looking at /etc/init.d/kdm I find these lines: # parameters to support kdm customization KDMRC=/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc BACKGROUNDRC=/etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc #if configuration is changed by kdmtheme or other tools, don't do magick if grep -q "Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@" ${KDMRC} && grep -q "Wallpaper=default_blue.jpg" ${BACKGROUNDRC} then ------------------------------------ now if that aint weird programming then I dont know what is... if I understand things right (I can try tomorrow, is getting bedtime here and I have 2 schoolboys to kick out of bed tomorrow) I can comment out some of the lines and both KDM themes and Login Manager should work - or at least the part in Login Manager that changes login wallpaper. that said - Login Manager's "Appearance, Font, Background" tabs and KDM ThemeManager does sort of work against each other. A KDM ThemeManager where you could change the background wallpaper would make more sense to me. From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 20:01:37 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:01:37 +0200 Subject: font substitution In-Reply-To: <200807221509.57168.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> <20080722183753.GA6298@slug.azmolan> <200807221509.57168.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080722200137.GA6332@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:09, Art Alexion wrote: > Thanks. Is there a global equivalent? The reason I ask is that KDE is doing > a substitution that I don't want it to do, not the corollary. I want it to > stop. Nothing in my current file seems to be triggering that. Well, the usual font config is in /etc/fonts/config.{d,avail}. Might be something in there, would be pretty unusual for KDE to do stuff on it's own. > Also, which app can I use to examine a font to see what the attributes are, > and perhaps edit them. I am thinking the decorative font that keeps jumping > in for Times New Roman has its attributes screwed up. Sorry, can't comment on that. :/ -- Gordon. From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 20:37:40 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:37:40 -0400 Subject: font substitution In-Reply-To: <20080722200137.GA6332@slug.azmolan> References: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807221509.57168.art.alexion@verizon.net> <20080722200137.GA6332@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807221637.45933.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 4:01:37 pm Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:09, Art Alexion wrote: > > Thanks. Is there a global equivalent? The reason I ask is that KDE is > > doing a substitution that I don't want it to do, not the corollary. I > > want it to stop. Nothing in my current file seems to be triggering that. > > Well, the usual font config is in /etc/fonts/config.{d,avail}. Might be > something in there, would be pretty unusual for KDE to do stuff on it's > own. Right. That's why I think it is really the font itself with the bad info. > > > Also, which app can I use to examine a font to see what the attributes > > are, and perhaps edit them. I am thinking the decorative font that keeps > > jumping in for Times New Roman has its attributes screwed up. > > Sorry, can't comment on that. :/ > -- > Gordon. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIZFGULG/oYII0YuAQKB3QQAo9i5rq3FwGuzQxUD3C7JQz3C+c/ZoEiy gBREbup2C+hmrNYanIzlNyOUn1c1hf4n9ibsKxFQXaDFUhp9jKr7WxnKGvdUHZLG u37x3A+3pDpm73A69F1MW2BNeju3PkSWFfou3p8qOshLkFAMCfvUlJd06aSV+V6r PmrKwsILAiQ= =eYBs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 20:48:20 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:48:20 -0400 Subject: font substitution In-Reply-To: <20080722200137.GA6332@slug.azmolan> References: <200807221414.35664.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807221509.57168.art.alexion@verizon.net> <20080722200137.GA6332@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807221648.25828.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 4:01:37 pm Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:09, Art Alexion wrote: > > > Also, which app can I use to examine a font to see what the attributes > > are, and perhaps edit them.  I am thinking the decorative font that keeps > > jumping in for Times New Roman has its attributes screwed up. > > Sorry, can't comment on that. :/ fontforge is in the repositories. I hope that works. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIZHmULG/oYII0YuAQKBxgP+O/Hq9QxMOEepb4ppgFdX45nZOg23FplR 1HxQONNxKjFfgVPOq7Jeg7V6GI8fl+LbQypjO8Jci2dakA+zMWOiqLUtHUXwrmE5 3UsGu8NOkLYuklXUC3/03MyTkrYbODSIQCbbIiSpWFTcy02DuNMbw+jzRAdXomBX iysQRcLEI+c= =Ewa0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 22 21:14:48 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:14:48 -0300 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Well I got that from one of the links I provided. Even so I think it is > a more than odd way to control the KDM theme that if you set another > login background wallpaper the whole thing stops working (kdm theme that > is) so I still see it as a bug and suggest the maintainer rethinks. Oh, absolutely. Changing back to default_blue.jpg is a poor workaround :-) > > don't know why your (Derek) /etc/default/kdm.d does not have the > 20_default... but I checked on 2 computers and it is there (both of them > Hardy 8.04 clean installs). I don't see it anywhere in packages.ubuntu.com/ -- derek From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Tue Jul 22 22:10:11 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:10:11 -0400 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: <20080721213233.GA5916@slug.azmolan> References: <200807211427.13435.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <20080721213233.GA5916@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807221810.12050.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> On Monday 21 July 2008 5:32:33 pm Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:27, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > Thanks! It works! When I booted it came up attached, ready to browse. > > Now, the next question: How do I find and attach to a different router > > -- like at a motel or my son's or my daughter's houses? > > "iwlist scan" gives you a list of all available access points in range. > Granted, only if they are configured to broadcast their SSID. > Simply switch out the ESSID in the config file then and restart > networking. Most of the time when I run "iwlist scan" I get "wlan0 No scan results" even though I'm connected and can browse and email. Sometimes it sees my router. But it so far has never showed any of the neighbors' ESSIDs that I used to see with Knetworkmanager. Any idea why? -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Freeware: If it breaks you get to keep both pieces. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 04:16:49 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:16:49 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4886B0B1.6080608@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Well I got that from one of the links I provided. Even so I think it is >> a more than odd way to control the KDM theme that if you set another >> login background wallpaper the whole thing stops working (kdm theme that >> is) so I still see it as a bug and suggest the maintainer rethinks. > > Oh, absolutely. Changing back to default_blue.jpg is a poor workaround :-) >> don't know why your (Derek) /etc/default/kdm.d does not have the >> 20_default... but I checked on 2 computers and it is there (both of them >> Hardy 8.04 clean installs). > > I don't see it anywhere in packages.ubuntu.com/ Well, I don't know the inner workings of Kubuntu enough to explain how it gets there and why but the fact is that I have on those computers I have checked so far and that it is mentioned on the net here and there. Did you not make a "server-install" first and then "kubuntu-desktop", maybe that is why? I normally install from the Alternate Kubuntu CD. From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 08:18:36 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:18:36 +0200 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: <200807221810.12050.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <200807211427.13435.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <20080721213233.GA5916@slug.azmolan> <200807221810.12050.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <20080723081836.GA6561@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:10, Jerry Lapham wrote: > Most of the time when I run "iwlist scan" I get "wlan0 No scan results" even > though I'm connected and can browse and email. Sometimes it sees my router. > But it so far has never showed any of the neighbors' ESSIDs that I used to > see with Knetworkmanager. > > Any idea why? Only reason I can think of is that you do the 'iwlist scan' without sudo/root privileges. Scanning as normal user only gives the left-over scan results from prior scannings, so that would explain the inconsistent behaviour. I'd assume (k)networkmanager does it's scanning with at least temporary root privileges to see the SSIDs in range. -- Gordon. From tptagth at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 15:33:59 2008 From: tptagth at yahoo.com (B) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: My "/tmp" directory filled up 64GB virtually overnight! Message-ID: <203111.54429.qm@web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi, I am using Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3.5.9. Dolphin is version 0.9.2. The kernel is 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP. I have my disk partitioned into three sections; swap, root and home. Yesterday my 73GB root partition had the following properties; - Used 6.2GB. - Available 64GB. Today my 73GB root partition had the following properties; - Used 70GB. - Available 0GB. After looking through the root partition I found that the "/tmp" directory had ballooned up in size to 64GB. The only "new" task that I performed yesterday was mounting a truecrypt volume and copying 20GB of data from the truecrypt volume into my home partition. The truecrypt volume was on an external disk and is not currently mounted. I used Dolphin to do the copying. Anyway, today my "/tmp" directory has the following listing: :/tmp$ ls -la total 68 drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:30 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-06-24 18:25 .. -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-21 18:51 002zmBUx.torrent.part drwxr-xr-x 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-21 22:20 acroread_1000_1000 drwx------ 3 brian brian 4096 2008-07-20 18:43 gconfd-brian drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:19 gconfd-root drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2008-07-20 18:43 .ICE-unix drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:26 kde-brian drwx------ 3 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:41 ksocket-brian drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:16 orbit-brian drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:19 orbit-root drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:15 plugtmp -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 21:45 plugtmp-1 -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 21:45 plugtmp-2 -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 21:45 plugtmp-3 drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-20 18:43 seahorse-zsFaLd drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-20 18:43 ssh-HLFXMu5825 -rw------- 1 root root 0 2008-07-20 18:42 tmp.eRjOvB5698 drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-21 15:57 vmware-brian drwx------ 3 brian brian 4096 2008-07-21 09:41 .wine-1000 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 11 2008-07-20 18:42 .X0-lock drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2008-07-20 18:42 .X11-unix And within "/tmp/kde-brian" is the 64GB. It had the following listing: :/tmp/kde-brian$ ls -la total 66266108 drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:26 . drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:30 .. -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 d3lphin0foFDb.tmp -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947544064 2008-07-22 20:06 d3lphin0foFDb.tmp.part -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 d3lphin3fICgc.tmp -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947544064 2008-07-22 20:06 d3lphin3fICgc.tmp.part -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 d3lphin89Tehb.tmp -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947597312 2008-07-22 20:06 d3lphin89Tehb.tmp.part -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 d3lphinoTTEOb.tmp -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947511296 2008-07-22 20:06 d3lphinoTTEOb.tmp.part -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-23 10:52 konqueror-crash-gHwFna.log -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-23 10:26 konqueror-crash-up3hJa.log lrwxrwxrwx 1 brian brian 31 2008-07-20 18:44 ksycoca -> /var/tmp/kdecache-brian/ksycoca As things stand at this point I've deleted the 64GB from "/tmp/kde-brian". And, now my 73GB root partition has the following properties it's had for the last several months: - Used 6.2GB. - Available 64GB. For me this is an interesting enough Linux episode to question it. I would like to know if anyone has a suggestion on what I can do to discover why this directory blossomed into 64GB virtually overnight. Thank you for your time. Brian From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:02:52 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:02:52 +0200 Subject: My "/tmp" directory filled up 64GB virtually overnight! In-Reply-To: <203111.54429.qm@web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <203111.54429.qm@web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080723160252.GA6609@slug.azmolan> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:33, B wrote: > And within "/tmp/kde-brian" is the 64GB. It had the following listing: > :/tmp/kde-brian$ ls -la > total 66266108 > drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:26 . > drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:30 .. > -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 d3lphin0foFDb.tmp > -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947544064 2008-07-22 20:06 d3lphin0foFDb.tmp.part [...] > For me this is an interesting enough Linux episode to question it. > I would like to know if anyone has a suggestion on what I can do to discover why > this directory blossomed into 64GB virtually overnight. Can't really tell why it did that - those leftover temporary files are from dolphin, seems like it never bothered to delete them. d3lphin indicates it (dolphin Kde3 Port = d3lphin). Did it crash or something? -- Gordon. From tptagth at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 16:23:31 2008 From: tptagth at yahoo.com (B) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: My "/tmp" directory filled up 64GB virtually overnight! In-Reply-To: <20080723160252.GA6609@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <810394.26280.qm@web65701.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi Gordon, Yes, while I was mounting the truecrypt volume Dolphin was crashing and the PC slowed to a halt. The truecrypt volume on the external disk is formatted as NTFS. I used the following command to mount the NTFS truecrypt volume: $ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt Then of course I simply used the truecrypt program to access the truecrypt file on the external disk. Sorry if I'm not using the correct truecrypt terminology because I don't have experience with truecrypt until the other day. I created a standard TrueCrypt volume; I did not create a hidden TrueCrypt volume. Thank you. Brian --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Gordon Schulz wrote: > From: Gordon Schulz > Subject: Re: My "/tmp" directory filled up 64GB virtually overnight! > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:02 PM > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:33, B > wrote: > > > And within "/tmp/kde-brian" is the 64GB. It > had the following listing: > > :/tmp/kde-brian$ ls -la > > total 66266108 > > drwx------ 2 brian brian 4096 2008-07-23 10:26 > . > > drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 4096 2008-07-23 10:30 > .. > > -rw------- 1 brian brian 0 2008-07-22 19:30 > d3lphin0foFDb.tmp > > -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 16947544064 2008-07-22 20:06 > d3lphin0foFDb.tmp.part > [...] > > For me this is an interesting enough Linux episode to > question it. > > I would like to know if anyone has a suggestion on > what I can do to discover why > > this directory blossomed into 64GB virtually > overnight. > Can't really tell why it did that - those leftover > temporary files are > from dolphin, seems like it never bothered to delete them. > d3lphin indicates > it (dolphin Kde3 Port = d3lphin). Did it crash or > something? > -- > Gordon. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Jul 23 16:53:33 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:33 +0200 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <87wsjcbkz6.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > I don't see it anywhere in packages.ubuntu.com/ $ dpkg -S /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings kubuntu-default-settings: /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Jul 23 16:52:49 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:52:49 +0200 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <871w1kczku.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > As I said, he wasn't looking in "quite" the right place - implying he is on > the right track, but there was more to the story. Anyway, that gives you > the simple answer: use the Login Manager to set the wallpaper back > to "default_blue.jpg" and your theme should be used. I don't think that will work, since if you do it through the login manager, you won't get default_blue.jpg, but rather the full path to default_blue.jpg (I tried all these stuff out before I wrote it up earlier). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From support at corp.scour.com Wed Jul 23 18:57:10 2008 From: support at corp.scour.com (Chakravarthy Sridhar) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Scour.com invite from Chakravarthy Sridhar Message-ID: <20080723185710.57C987B338@www1.scour.com> Hey, Did you hear about Scour? It is the next gen search engine with Google/Yahoo/MSN results and user comments all on one page. Best of all we get paid for using it by earning points with every search, comment and vote. The points are redeemable for Visa gift cards! It's like earning credit card or airline points just for searching! Hit the link below to join for free and we will both get points! http://scour.com/invite/tughlas/ I know you'll like it! - Chakravarthy Sridhar From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 23 19:07:34 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:07:34 -0300 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4886B0B1.6080608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1896559.OtdHxE1M3y@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> don't know why your (Derek) /etc/default/kdm.d does not have the >>> 20_default... but I checked on 2 computers and it is there (both of them >>> Hardy 8.04 clean installs). >> >> I don't see it anywhere in packages.ubuntu.com/ I actually couldn't find a lot of files there, so I think their file search function was broken. > Well, I don't know the inner workings of Kubuntu enough to explain how > it gets there and why but the fact is that I have on those computers I > have checked so far and that it is mentioned on the net here and there. > > Did you not make a "server-install" first and then "kubuntu-desktop", > maybe that is why? I normally install from the Alternate Kubuntu CD. No, this is a fresh install of Gutsy kubuntu followed by an adept-manager upgrade to hardy, followed by fixing all the things the automated upgrade broke... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 23 19:11:04 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:11:04 -0300 Subject: kdm login background References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <48863902.4070409@gmail.com> <11709673.1ONC2ePYQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> <87wsjcbkz6.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <3307800.TdVZyONg6m@cedar.serverforest.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> I don't see it anywhere in packages.ubuntu.com/ > > $ dpkg -S /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings > kubuntu-default-settings: /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings That explains why I don't have it. There's a really annoying "usability enhancement" in kubuntu-default-settings to prevent you using Ark embedded in konqueror to view archive files. So every time I upgrade, I forget about it until I try to drill down into an archive, Ark gets opened outside konqueror, I spend two hours trying to search out how to fix it, and I finally just purge kubuntu-desktop-settings. -- derek From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 21:47:00 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:47:00 +0200 Subject: Can't change desktop background Message-ID: Hi! I have tried all possible settings in kcontrol related to the desktop, colors, window decoration you name it, but my desktop background refuses to change. I first noticed it perhaps 1-2 weeks ago when a wanted to change the picture i had and all i got was the background color no matter what picture i chose. Any else got same problem? What have i missed? / Jonas From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 22:00:13 2008 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:00:13 -0400 Subject: Can't change desktop background In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> I've always been able to change it through right-clicking on the desktop and selecting "Configure Desktop". The Background settings are the default configuration there so you should be able to find what you need there. I have mine set to the default. Another thing to consider is that if the file you're instructing kde to use as a background isn't there you will only get the background color... -Jared On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Jonas Norlander wrote: > Hi! > > I have tried all possible settings in kcontrol related to the desktop, > colors, window decoration you name it, but my desktop background > refuses to change. I first noticed it perhaps 1-2 weeks ago when a > wanted to change the picture i had and all i got was the background > color no matter what picture i chose. Any else got same problem? What > have i missed? > > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 22:04:59 2008 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:04:59 -0400 Subject: Can't change desktop background In-Reply-To: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> References: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2759cf860807231504r5926bc15k5b157b3131e1ae82@mail.gmail.com> Just remembered that the same setting dialog is under "KControl" -> "Look & Feel" -> "Desktop". On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Jared Greenwald wrote: > I've always been able to change it through right-clicking on the > desktop and selecting "Configure Desktop". The Background settings > are the default configuration there so you should be able to find what > you need there. I have mine set to the default. Another thing to > consider is that if the file you're instructing kde to use as a > background isn't there you will only get the background color... > > -Jared > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Jonas Norlander wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I have tried all possible settings in kcontrol related to the desktop, >> colors, window decoration you name it, but my desktop background >> refuses to change. I first noticed it perhaps 1-2 weeks ago when a >> wanted to change the picture i had and all i got was the background >> color no matter what picture i chose. Any else got same problem? What >> have i missed? >> >> / Jonas >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Thu Jul 24 01:34:27 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:34:27 -0400 Subject: Wifi won't connect with password In-Reply-To: <20080723081836.GA6561@slug.azmolan> References: <200807221810.12050.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <20080723081836.GA6561@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807232134.28112.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> On Wednesday 23 July 2008 4:18:36 am Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:10, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > Most of the time when I run "iwlist scan" I get "wlan0 No scan results" > > even though I'm connected and can browse and email. Sometimes it sees my > > router. But it so far has never showed any of the neighbors' ESSIDs that > > I used to see with Knetworkmanager. > > > > Any idea why? > > Only reason I can think of is that you do the 'iwlist scan' without > sudo/root privileges. Scanning as normal user only gives the left-over > scan results from prior scannings, so that would explain the > inconsistent behaviour. I'd assume (k)networkmanager does it's scanning > with at least temporary root privileges to see the SSIDs in range. > -- > Gordon. That's it. Thanks. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From execrable at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 02:26:20 2008 From: execrable at gmail.com (Brian Parma) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:26:20 -0700 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: <1785534.VzKIpAEgxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> <4882E031.9090003@gmail.com> <1785534.VzKIpAEgxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> O. Sinclair wrote: > >> > >>> Donn wrote: > >>>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: > >>>>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of multiple > >>>>> concurrent interfaces > >>>> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs Ubuntu) or is > >>>> it some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle eth0 > and > >>>> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! > >>>> > >>> this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my Dell I > can > >>> use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a cable is in > >>> the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of weeks > >>> only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you > >>> insert a cable. > >> > >> It shouldn't be hardware - it should be a matter of whether you have the > >> wired interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If it isn't, it's > >> handled by Network manager, which is only going to handle one interface > >> at > >> a time. If it is, network manager will ignore it. > > I don't, wicd goes nuts if you mess the interfaces manually. > > Well, as I said - wicd isn't always the answer :-) NM simply doesn't > handle > interfaces that have been configured manually. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Wow my thread really took off. Disabling the eth0 (and eth1) was a good idea, but no joy. There isn't any physical network cables plugged into the computer, just the wireless device. To test it, I basically unplug my router and give it like 5 minutes for Kubuntu to disable wlan0, then I plug the router back in. Once it is plugged back in nothing happens, wlan0 does not automatically reactivate. I haven't tried wicd yet because it isn't in the repos (at least not the default ones). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 03:56:03 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:56:03 +0200 Subject: kdm login background In-Reply-To: <871w1kczku.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <487DCE3C.4080404@gmail.com> <4884E1E9.3030900@gmail.com> <200807212317.51275.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <48855B99.9020806@gmail.com> <48858C57.7040809@gmail.com> <7759967.27J0ICqIFl@cedar.serverforest.com> <8763qx514v.fsf@fjellstad.org> <14324723.ojyRIWiM7f@cedar.serverforest.com> <871w1kczku.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <4887FD53.303@gmail.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> As I said, he wasn't looking in "quite" the right place - implying he is on >> the right track, but there was more to the story. Anyway, that gives you >> the simple answer: use the Login Manager to set the wallpaper back >> to "default_blue.jpg" and your theme should be used. > > I don't think that will work, since if you do it through the login > manager, you won't get default_blue.jpg, but rather the full path to > default_blue.jpg (I tried all these stuff out before I wrote it up earlier). > you are right on that and also it sets some indication that it is user set and not default. Have not had time/interest to fiddle with other theories today. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 04:03:18 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:03:18 +0200 Subject: Automatic reconnect to wireless network In-Reply-To: References: <200807181803.18359.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <10791868.MuCnUSSGAn@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807181910.52049.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <48818D38.2050500@gmail.com> <1317620.fQCmla9Gxk@cedar.serverforest.com> <4882E031.9090003@gmail.com> <1785534.VzKIpAEgxJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4887FF06.4080107@gmail.com> Brian Parma wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Derek Broughton > wrote: > > O. Sinclair wrote: > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> O. Sinclair wrote: > >> > >>> Donn wrote: > >>>> On Friday, 18 July 2008 18:47:19 Derek Broughton wrote: > >>>>> This is true. Network manager doesn't understand the use of > multiple > >>>>> concurrent interfaces > >>>> Does 'network manager' mean a gui thing (my laptop runs > Ubuntu) or is > >>>> it some lower-level thing? It seems weird that it can't handle > eth0 and > >>>> wireless at the same time -- even Windoze can do it! > >>>> > >>> this seems to be hardware dependent from my experience. In my > Dell I can > >>> use both (or rather the computer is aware of both even if a > cable is in > >>> the wired socket or not) while on an HP I installed a couple of > weeks > >>> only one is active - and the wireless simply "disappears" when you > >>> insert a cable. > >> > >> It shouldn't be hardware - it should be a matter of whether you > have the > >> wired interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If it > isn't, it's > >> handled by Network manager, which is only going to handle one > interface > >> at > >> a time. If it is, network manager will ignore it. > > I don't, wicd goes nuts if you mess the interfaces manually. > > Well, as I said - wicd isn't always the answer :-) NM simply > doesn't handle > interfaces that have been configured manually. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Wow my thread really took off. Disabling the eth0 (and eth1) was a good > idea, but no joy. There isn't any physical network cables plugged into > the computer, just the wireless device. To test it, I basically unplug > my router and give it like 5 minutes for Kubuntu to disable wlan0, then > I plug the router back in. Once it is plugged back in nothing happens, > wlan0 does not automatically reactivate. > > I haven't tried wicd yet because it isn't in the repos (at least not the > default ones). > No it isn't, go to wicd.sourceforge.net and follow instructions to put their repo and get an automatic startup in Kubuntu if you want to try it out. Sinclair From h_taheri at isc.iranet.net Thu Jul 24 05:49:33 2008 From: h_taheri at isc.iranet.net (homayoon taheri) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:19:33 +0430 Subject: A Question about openoffice Message-ID: <1216878573.9316.4.camel@ubuntu804> Hi I need to draw some shapes in my documents in OO-Writer. Why isn't there connector line type in OO Writer Drawing? Or I Can't find it? Please help me. From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 06:22:52 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:22:52 +0200 Subject: A Question about openoffice In-Reply-To: <1216878573.9316.4.camel@ubuntu804> References: <1216878573.9316.4.camel@ubuntu804> Message-ID: <48881FBC.6070108@gmail.com> homayoon taheri wrote: > Hi > I need to draw some shapes in my documents in OO-Writer. > Why isn't there connector line type in OO Writer Drawing? Or I Can't > find it? > > Please help me. > > > > Start Open Office. Main menu 'VIEUW'. Click at 'toolbars'. Than click at 'drawing'. Than you will see several drawing options/ menu at the bottom. Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. ************************** Rainbow News, views and visions: CircleLetterRainbow.net European Rainbow Gathering in Serbia: Eurogathering.Rainbowinfo.net Open source operating system: Linux - Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu.org From jonorland at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 06:59:34 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:59:34 +0200 Subject: Can't change desktop background In-Reply-To: <2759cf860807231504r5926bc15k5b157b3131e1ae82@mail.gmail.com> References: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> <2759cf860807231504r5926bc15k5b157b3131e1ae82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/24 Jared Greenwald : > Just remembered that the same setting dialog is under "KControl" -> > "Look & Feel" -> "Desktop". > Hi! Thanks for the answer but I'm well aware of where and how to change the background it's just that whatever settings/background i try it wont change. In the preview window i see the changes but it don't update the actual desktop with the new settings. / Jonas From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 11:02:54 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:02:54 +0300 Subject: Can't change desktop background In-Reply-To: References: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> <2759cf860807231504r5926bc15k5b157b3131e1ae82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807240402s25ddf288yf8ffea9635d9aeb@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/24 Jonas Norlander : > 2008/7/24 Jared Greenwald : > > Just remembered that the same setting dialog is under "KControl" -> > > "Look & Feel" -> "Desktop". > > > > Hi! > > Thanks for the answer but I'm well aware of where and how to change > the background it's just that whatever settings/background i try it > wont change. In the preview window i see the changes but it don't > update the actual desktop with the new settings. > > / Jonas > i'm not sitting on a kububtu system right now, let's hope i remember right. if you right-click the desktop, choose configure desktop, in the windows where you see the pictures to choose from, there is and advanced button, click it, in the new window, there should be something about the program used to draw the desktop, try changing it to either the default (if that's not already chosen) or some other program listed. hope it works -- WC Fields - "A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the preview window i see the changes but it don't >> update the actual desktop with the new settings. >> >> / Jonas > > i'm not sitting on a kububtu system right now, let's hope i remember right. > if you right-click the desktop, choose configure desktop, in the windows > where you see the pictures to choose from, there is and advanced button, > click it, in the new window, there should be something about the program > used to draw the desktop, try changing it to either the default (if that's > not already chosen) or some other program listed. > hope it works > -- > WC Fields - "A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money." > -- Hi! No it don't :-/ For me it's unchecked and if i check it i got one program to choose from and it's kwebdesktop, i tried it but i still got my one color blue desktop. It must be some other settings/program that interfere with the desktop background drawing but i can't figure out what. / Jonas From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 11:27:38 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:27:38 +0300 Subject: Can't change desktop background In-Reply-To: References: <2759cf860807231500g515061a8ife3f657dffd29212@mail.gmail.com> <2759cf860807231504r5926bc15k5b157b3131e1ae82@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807240402s25ddf288yf8ffea9635d9aeb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807240427m4594b284i966cd228f769d454@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/24 Jonas Norlander : > 2008/7/24 Willy Hamra : > > 2008/7/24 Jonas Norlander : > >> > >> 2008/7/24 Jared Greenwald : > >> Thanks for the answer but I'm well aware of where and how to change > >> the background it's just that whatever settings/background i try it > >> wont change. In the preview window i see the changes but it don't > >> update the actual desktop with the new settings. > >> > >> / Jonas > > > > i'm not sitting on a kububtu system right now, let's hope i remember > right. > > if you right-click the desktop, choose configure desktop, in the windows > > where you see the pictures to choose from, there is and advanced button, > > click it, in the new window, there should be something about the program > > used to draw the desktop, try changing it to either the default (if > that's > > not already chosen) or some other program listed. > > hope it works > > -- > > WC Fields - "A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money." > > -- > > Hi! > > No it don't :-/ For me it's unchecked and if i check it i got one > program to choose from and it's kwebdesktop, i tried it but i still > got my one color blue desktop. > > It must be some other settings/program that interfere with the desktop > background drawing but i can't figure out what. > > could it be that the desktop is crashing? it happened with me once in gutsy, do you see the dekstop icons properly? try "alt+f2", type kdesktop, and hit enter. -- Mitch Hedberg - "My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Why it stopped work i have don't know, all changes i did was through the GUI. / Jonas From bpremeaux at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 15:16:24 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:16:24 -0700 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> I just installed Kubuntu on a new PC and am working my way through the learning curve. When the Add/Remove Software application finished updating, it said I had 160 updates available. I haven't found an option in that application for listing just the updates. Apt-get has an apt-show updates option which will give you the listing of available updates. But going through a listing of 160 files in a terminal window could be a bit troublesome. I will probably install Synaptic, since I am familiar with it. Since I am on a dial up connection, I need to select small groups to update. Hitting the servers with apt-get updates would probably give me some where between 500-650M of data. Not real doable on dial up. Still, I was wondering if there is a hidden option in Add/Remove Software for displaying just available updates. It knows they are out there, but I can't find anything in the documentation that explains how to view just these files. Barry From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 15:30:00 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:00 -0400 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper Message-ID: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> I down loaded 8.04.1 amd64 a couple of weeks ago to replace my aging Dapper system and try to get up to date. After a couple of tries I managed to determine the correct path though the start of the DVD and managed to successfully get a boot on the second attempt. Since then it has been nothing but a collection of little got-cha's---too many to list here. Current nasty is that I can't determine the correct selection monitor/nvidia version to get my 1600x1200 screen to work. Worked fine under Dapper but now the only usage form is 1280x1024. I tried to reload the Nvidia driver but things got worse. Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works (at least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view youtube on Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. Some programs just disappear when I try to execute them. Sometime, the disc seems to be thrashing around for a very long time in the background. I'm not used to this under Dapper. Question: is 8.04 any better? I downloaded from the Kunbunto site---should I buy a distribution disc? And from whom? Any suggestions would be helpful---even telling me to go back to Dapper. PS: I did all the tests to verify the quality of the download and it passed. Thanks in advance. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 16:10:24 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:10:24 +0300 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question In-Reply-To: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40807240910ta9e3e76ic4fb6f988d30f61a@mail.gmail.com> add/remove programs is just as it's name says for adding and removing programs, not working with updates. it uses apt-get in the back-end, but for a gui that manages updates, use adept, it is found in the k-menu/system. you can see your updates there. and an easier option is to check adept_notifier, it is the orange/brown box in the bottom roght corner, if you hover the mouse over it, it should say the number of updated packages available. click it, and it will display the list of packages and what is going to be changed in them (update, remove, new install...) 2008/7/24 Barry Premeaux : > I just installed Kubuntu on a new PC and am working my way through the > learning curve. When the Add/Remove Software application finished > updating, it said I had 160 updates available. I haven't found an > option in that application for listing just the updates. Apt-get has > an apt-show updates option which will give you the listing of > available updates. But going through a listing of 160 files in a > terminal window could be a bit troublesome. I will probably install > Synaptic, since I am familiar with it. Since I am on a dial up > connection, I need to select small groups to update. Hitting the > servers with apt-get updates would probably give me some where between > 500-650M of data. Not real doable on dial up. > > Still, I was wondering if there is a hidden option in Add/Remove > Software for displaying just available updates. It knows they are out > there, but I can't find anything in the documentation that explains > how to view just these files. > > Barry > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Groucho Marx - "A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Jul 24 16:18:37 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:18:37 +0200 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question In-Reply-To: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807241818.37943.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 24 July 2008 17:16, Barry Premeaux wrote: > I just installed Kubuntu on a new PC and am working my way through the > learning curve. When the Add/Remove Software application finished > updating, it said I had 160 updates available. I haven't found an > option in that application for listing just the updates. Apt-get has > an apt-show updates option which will give you the listing of > available updates. But going through a listing of 160 files in a > terminal window could be a bit troublesome. I will probably install > Synaptic, since I am familiar with it. Since I am on a dial up > connection, I need to select small groups to update. Hitting the > servers with apt-get updates would probably give me some where between > 500-650M of data. Not real doable on dial up. > > Still, I was wondering if there is a hidden option in Add/Remove > Software for displaying just available updates. It knows they are out > there, but I can't find anything in the documentation that explains > how to view just these files. > > Barry Hi Barry. I too am on dialup. I think I'd just go with an apt-get update, followed by an apt-get dist-upgrade. On a new install there is likely to be a whole bunch of stuff that needs to be upgraded, that wasn't up to speed on the install CD. If you have a fixed monthly payment for your dialup connection, like I have, and can download as much as you want, it's no problem. Of course if you're paying by the minute it's not much fun. My French ISP aliceadsl.fr gives me sessions of a little more than 9hrs, and can download just over 150MB at a time, and I'm currently downloading 6 iso's for Fedora 9, which is a real bunch of fun. Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 on 1 cd was a lot quicker. If you do get long sessions from your ISP, let it run overnight, and if you want to check mail, browse the web, etc, during the day, just do a CTRL + C, which will suspend the download, then, either during the day, or overnight again, just run apt-get dist-upgrade again. Say yes to it, and it will carry on where it left off. Try to do this over a short period of time, as if you do this over a week, some packages may have been updated in the meantime, and an apt-get dist-upgrade will be trying to find older packages that no longer exist, as they have been superceded by newer packages. If you have suspended the downloads of the updates with ctrl + c, and are doing the updates over a longer period of time, it would be wise to run apt-get update, before running apt-get dist-upgrade, which will make sure that apt's database is up to date with all the latest packages. All the best. Nigel. From bpremeaux at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 16:37:48 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:37:48 -0700 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807240910ta9e3e76ic4fb6f988d30f61a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40807240910ta9e3e76ic4fb6f988d30f61a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0807240937l774630b1v3099c3362db5f6d7@mail.gmail.com> Thank you. I'll check it out. Like I said, I'm still on the learning curve with Kubuntu. It's my first debian based system. I am more familiar with rpm based systems, PCLinuxOS, Opensuse, Fedora and Mandriva primarily. I am still running PCLinuxOS on my laptop. I finally updated my aging desktop with a unit that came with Opensuse 11.0 preinstalled. It had issues with my printer and seeing the repositories over my dial up. They did the updates over the network port. I had live CD's for Mandriva 2008.1 spring and Kubuntu 8.04. I tried both and decided to go with Kubuntu. So far, I like it. But, it is going to take a few days to get everything set up just the way I want it. Barry From bpremeaux at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 16:43:19 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:43:19 -0700 Subject: DVD Read Issues Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0807240943pbad3117o477ca03a64d37d39@mail.gmail.com> I made a back up DVD of files from my laptop using K3B. When I tried to move some of those files over to the desktop, all it saw was a blank disk. I am wondering if any one else has experienced this and if I missed a step when originally saving the files to the DVD. I don't have problems with saving an *.iso image. It is readable on other machines. Barry From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Jul 24 17:01:09 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:01:09 -0500 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4888B555.1080806@swbell.net> Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > I down loaded 8.04.1 amd64 a couple of weeks ago to replace my aging Dapper > system and try to get up to date. > > After a couple of tries I managed to determine the correct path though the > start of the DVD and managed to successfully get a boot on the second > attempt. Since then it has been nothing but a collection of little > got-cha's---too many to list here. > > Current nasty is that I can't determine the correct selection monitor/nvidia > version to get my 1600x1200 screen to work. Worked fine under Dapper but now > the only usage form is 1280x1024. I tried to reload the Nvidia driver but > things got worse. > > Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works (at > least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view youtube on > Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. > > Some programs just disappear when I try to execute them. > > Sometime, the disc seems to be thrashing around for a very long time in the > background. I'm not used to this under Dapper. > > Question: is 8.04 any better? I downloaded from the Kunbunto site---should I > buy a distribution disc? And from whom? > > Any suggestions would be helpful---even telling me to go back to Dapper. > > PS: I did all the tests to verify the quality of the download and it passed. > > Thanks in advance. > When I went and looked on the Kubuntu site all I found was 8.04 for download. Either the standard or the KDE4 remix. Is 8.04.1 a final release or a b/rc release? I would think if it is a final it would be available through the normal download procedure, not just the 8.04. If it's a b/rc release that could explain some of your issues. I've been using 8.04/KDE3.5.9 since release and find it VERY stable and easy to install. Well, actually, I just did the "upgrade" through adept on my desktop. But the 8.04/64 install on my new laptop was great. [ AND, best of all - EVERYTHING worked "right-out-of-the-box" ] -- Life is what happens while your busy making other plans. From bpremeaux at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 17:10:46 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:10:46 -0700 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question In-Reply-To: <200807241818.37943.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> <200807241818.37943.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0807241010m49c05b05vc35433dbe569170@mail.gmail.com> > Hi Barry. I too am on dialup. I think I'd just go with an apt-get update, > followed by an apt-get dist-upgrade. On a new install there is likely to be a > whole bunch of stuff that needs to be upgraded, that wasn't up to speed on > the install CD. > > If you have a fixed monthly payment for your dialup connection, like I have, > and can download as much as you want, it's no problem. Of course if you're > paying by the minute it's not much fun. > I'm on a flat monthly rate with no download limits. It's just the issue of tying up the pc for several hours while it does updates. Pulling the updates down in smaller chunks means I can get other things done in between. As far as *.iso's, I ususally get those when I am on the road with the lap top and have access to a high speed internet connection. The phone company still doesn't think it is worth the effort to bring DSL out to our area. I can get high speed data from the cable company, but I'm not sure I am ready to pay $50 for data and another $15 for basic cable TV. The only offset is that I could save on the second phone line that I currently have and the ISP. With taxes and all, I would probably spend an additional $40 each month. I'm not really excited about paying for cable TV, since I don't watch it that much any more. I'll probably talk myself into it eventually. Barry From grey at dmiyu.org Thu Jul 24 17:24:45 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve C. Lamb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:24:45 -0400 Subject: Add/Remove Software Application Question In-Reply-To: <6c6b0bfc0807241010m49c05b05vc35433dbe569170@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c6b0bfc0807240816xb1d3c8au7c607e83e7fdf570@mail.gmail.com> <200807241818.37943.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <6c6b0bfc0807241010m49c05b05vc35433dbe569170@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080724172445.GA707@dmiyu.org> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:10:46AM -0700, Barry Premeaux wrote: > I'm on a flat monthly rate with no download limits. It's just the > issue of tying up the pc for several hours while it does updates. This is what sleeping is for. On an infinite timelime bandwidth is infinite. If you have a large process/download going just start it before you go to bed and when you get up it'll probably be done. To you, it was instantanious. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 1FC01004 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Jul 24 17:30:24 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:30:24 -0300 Subject: DVD Read Issues References: <6c6b0bfc0807240943pbad3117o477ca03a64d37d39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2877185.5eZ8KbUQAq@cedar.serverforest.com> Barry Premeaux wrote: > I made a back up DVD of files from my laptop using K3B. When I tried > to move some of those files over to the desktop, all it saw was a > blank disk. I am wondering if any one else has experienced this and > if I missed a step when originally saving the files to the DVD. > > I don't have problems with saving an *.iso image. It is readable on > other machines. I had that happen yesterday - not sure what went wrong. -- derek From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Jul 24 18:32:11 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:11 -0400 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 24 July 2008, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > under Dapper but now the only usage form is 1280x1024. I tried to reload > the Nvidia driver but things got worse. Meaning what, exactly? > Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works (at > least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view youtube on > Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. Java works partially? How do you figure? If Youtube is your metric, it uses Flash, not Java. > Some programs just disappear when I try to execute them. When you launch them via the command line, what is the output? > Sometime, the disc seems to be thrashing around for a very long time in the > background. I'm not used to this under Dapper. Run a command "top" and see what is taking your CPU time. Often, you can tell what is thrashing. Before you go jumping from distro version to distro version, but some effort into learning some debugging. From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 19:21:13 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:21:13 +0200 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Brendan wrote: > On Thursday 24 July 2008, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: >> under Dapper but now the only usage form is 1280x1024. I tried to reload >> the Nvidia driver but things got worse. My upgrade to 8.04 landed me in Nvidia hell but after some playing around I got the xorg.conf set right to make my monitor work. I don't think much of the resent changes to xorg.config, they don't seem to work well and I have had to go in and change things by hand a lot and guess at some settings. Luckily for me, I started Linux back when this was the only way. Another question was did you do a full install or and update? My system is working just find now except for java and my mouse driver still is not set right. The mouse is because I want ALL the buttons to work. The base install gave me a working basic mouse. I never use java and have not taken the time to fix it yet. I am sure some link somewhere is wrong. I am running an AMD X2 64 bit with Nvidia. Everything is stable though, after the fight to get the system up and working. Also this is a twin to a long term support ubuntu so that seems good to me. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From grey at dmiyu.org Thu Jul 24 19:33:08 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve C. Lamb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:33:08 -0400 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <20080724193308.GD707@dmiyu.org> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:32:11PM -0400, Brendan wrote: > On Thursday 24 July 2008, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works (at > > least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view youtube on > > Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. > Java works partially? How do you figure? If Youtube is your metric, it uses > Flash, not Java. Two separate conditions here. Java partially works in FF but not Konq. Flash works in Konq not FF. This leads to his starting sentence of "are mixed as to what works on what." If Java and flash worked on one but not the other it would not be mixed. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 1FC01004 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From tkg at lanl.gov Thu Jul 24 20:12:12 2008 From: tkg at lanl.gov (Thomas K. Gamble) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:12:12 -0600 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807241412.12527.tkg@lanl.gov> On Thursday 24 July 2008 09:30:00 am Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > Current nasty is that I can't determine the correct selection > monitor/nvidia version to get my 1600x1200 screen to work. Worked fine > under Dapper but now the only usage form is 1280x1024. I tried to reload > the Nvidia driver but things got worse. I had problems here as well. I have twin Samsung 24" widescreens at 1920x1200 that wouldn't work with my old xorg.conf. What I did was: "sudo apt-get install envyng-core" run "sudo envyng" and let it install the nvidia drivers. run "sudo nvidia-settings", configure as desired and save to xorg.conf. The resulting xorg.conf was somewhat different than my original, but it works just fine. > > Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works (at > least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view youtube on > Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. Running 64 bit on dual opterons here and installing "flashplugin-nonfree" got youtube working ok. I still have some problems with JRE versions not jibing with zoneminder stuff. > > Some programs just disappear when I try to execute them. > > Sometime, the disc seems to be thrashing around for a very long time in the > background. I'm not used to this under Dapper. How is your system partitioned? -- Thomas K. Gamble System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) Los Alamos National Laboratory MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. Henry Kissinger From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Jul 24 20:27:13 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:27:13 -0400 Subject: 8.04.1 so buggy I'm about to go back to Dapper In-Reply-To: <20080724193308.GD707@dmiyu.org> References: <200807241130.01350.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200807241432.11644.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <20080724193308.GD707@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <200807241627.13898.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 24 July 2008, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:32:11PM -0400, Brendan wrote: > > On Thursday 24 July 2008, Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > > Firefox and Konqueror are mixed as to what works on what. Java works > > > (at least partially) on Firefox but fails on Konqueror. I can view > > > youtube on Konqueror but not Firefox, ... and on and on. > > > > Java works partially? How do you figure? If Youtube is your metric, it > > uses Flash, not Java. > > Two separate conditions here. > > Java partially works in FF but not Konq. > Flash works in Konq not FF. > > This leads to his starting sentence of "are mixed as to what works on > what." If Java and flash worked on one but not the other it would not be > mixed. ;) Not everyone is as precise in their wording, which is why I asked. From pfrancq at ulb.ac.be Thu Jul 24 20:29:10 2008 From: pfrancq at ulb.ac.be (Pascal Francq) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:29:10 +0200 Subject: Problem with Canon IP 3500 Message-ID: <200807242229.13872.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> Hi, I am using KUbuntu 8.04 (64 bit) and I have a Canon IP 3500 Printer. I try to configure, but I cannot find a good driver. On the Canon site, you have .deb packages but for 32 bit. I try to install them with --force-architecture (I have the ia32-libs installed). I try to follow the instructions of Canon (which works for other working with 32 bit) and I does not work. I suppose it related to the mixing of 64 and 32 bit code. I try to download then the source package of the driver and compile it. But, it does not work either. In fact, there are libraries which must be installed and that are compile in 32 bit I suppose. Has anyone an idea? Thanks. -- Prof. Pascal Francq Digital Information Chair Université libre de Bruxelles Department of Information and Communication Sciences Avenue F.D. Roosevelt, 50 CP 123 B-1050 Brussels BELGIUM Tel. +32-2-650 47 65 Fax +32-2-650 39 21 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If Youtube is your metric, it uses >> Flash, not Java. > > Two separate conditions here. > > Java partially works in FF but not Konq. > Flash works in Konq not FF. > > This leads to his starting sentence of "are mixed as to what works on > what." If Java and flash worked on one but not the other it would not be > mixed. ;) > > I always download Firefox before I download kubuntu-restricted-extras so that I am sure Flash goes in both. No problems here after around 8 pc installs with 8.04 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 08:43:33 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:43:33 +0200 Subject: login problems again... Message-ID: <48899235.6000509@gmail.com> Right, have just installed another pc with Kubuntu 8.04.1 and was playing around with a sound-theme that requires setting of root password (something to do with paths). Following that I did a reboot and up comes the "desktop wizard" suddenly. Thinking wtf I cancelled it and ever since that the login is a bit weird. It shows normal login screen, I type the password and then the screen goes blue until the desktop comes up. No "action icons" on starting processes and all that... where did they go, how do I get them back? They are certainly not very necessary, I just want the machine to be "tidy" as it is for my better half. Regards, Sinclair From Technowizard at gmx.net Fri Jul 25 09:32:37 2008 From: Technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:32:37 +0200 Subject: Flash with asoundrc Message-ID: <200807251132.37495.Technowizard@gmx.net> Hi everybody, my problem is that I can't get sound from flash if I use this asoundrc with upmixing: pcm.dmix6 { type dmix ipc_key 1024 ipc_key_add_uid false ipc_perm 0660 slave { pcm "hw:0,1" rate 48000 channels 6 period_time 0 period_size 1024 buffer_time 0 buffer_size 5120 } } # upmixing: pcm.ch51dup { type route slave.pcm dmix6 slave.channels 6 ttable.0.0 0.5 ttable.1.1 0.5 ttable.0.2 1 ttable.1.3 1 ttable.0.4 1 ttable.1.4 1 ttable.0.5 1 ttable.1.5 1 } pcm.duplex { type asym playback.pcm "ch51dup" # upmix first capture.pcm "hw:0" } # change default device: pcm.!default { type softvol slave.pcm "duplex" control { name "RMaster" card 0 } } # DSP wird simuliert und benutzt das dmix-Plugin. pcm.dsp0 { type plug slave-pcm "duplex" } # OSS-Steuerung für dsp0 (falls es benötigt wird...) ctl.dsp0 { type plug slave.pcm "snd_card" } # OSS-Steuerung für dsp0 (falls es benötigt wird...) ctl.mixer0 { type plug slave.pcm "snd_card" } Did I do something wrong? Thanks, Jan Michelsburg From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 09:47:29 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:47:29 +0200 Subject: Installing software for only certain users Message-ID: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, Is there any way to aptitude/apt-get install X for only one (or a few) users but not others? \d From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 11:56:47 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:56:47 +0200 Subject: wlan and interfaces Message-ID: Can a few people with a working wifi hopefully with ndiswrapper on a usb wifi stick please post their /etc/network/interfaces file? thanks, -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 15:47:58 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:47:58 -0400 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy Message-ID: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> While answering one of the comments on my previous complaint the disc thrashing started again. I had been on the machine for about an hour prior to this event. Again, per suggestion, I tried 'top' but could not figure out what was happening. Then a popup message occurred indicating that I was running out of memory. Because I wanted to get my email our I quickly sent it an then did a shutdown. After rebooting I did a df which showed: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda6 152132292 136379128 8086148 95% / varrun 1030896 156 1030740 1% /var/run varlock 1030896 0 1030896 0% /var/lock udev 1030896 64 1030832 1% /dev devshm 1030896 0 1030896 0% /dev/shm lrm 1030896 45040 985856 5% /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile and indeed I was running out of memory. I then did a du of my home user directory and the follwing extract: 129128672 ./.strigi/clucene 4 ./.strigi/estraier 129128688 ./.strigi !!! I did a '/bin/rm -r .strigi' and disc usage is back to around 6%. I know there is a program called strigi which I tried a few weeks ago but had not knowingly used it since. I guess it is tied to Konqueror. Is this program prone to runaway states? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From dcbegaye at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 15:52:23 2008 From: dcbegaye at gmail.com (Daryl Begaye) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:52:23 -0400 Subject: Remaster: Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: <487B9913.3010001@mail.ee> References: <225efd590807140727t7acdeca8p602919bbf85be52a@mail.gmail.com> <487B9913.3010001@mail.ee> Message-ID: <225efd590807250852i7504bc6dsb8b47affd18dca2d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for you help, it took me awhile but I was finally able to create the Live CD/DVD I wanted to make. 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Just asking cos I stick all kinds of junk in /etc/network/interfaces \d From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 16:17:32 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:17:32 +0300 Subject: login problems again... In-Reply-To: <48899235.6000509@gmail.com> References: <48899235.6000509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4889FC9C.6030104@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Right, > have just installed another pc with Kubuntu 8.04.1 and was playing > around with a sound-theme that requires setting of root password > (something to do with paths). > > Following that I did a reboot and up comes the "desktop wizard" > suddenly. Thinking wtf I cancelled it and ever since that the login is a > bit weird. > > It shows normal login screen, I type the password and then the screen > goes blue until the desktop comes up. No "action icons" on starting > processes and all that... > > where did they go, how do I get them back? They are certainly not very > necessary, I just want the machine to be "tidy" as it is for my better half. > > Regards, > Sinclair > this is the login splash screen that is missing, it happened with me once, go to kcontrol/appearance and themes/splash, and edit it there, if splash doesn't exist, then you need to install ksplash sudo apt-get install ksplash (or use the package a manager of your choice) -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Jul 25 16:27:35 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:27:35 -0400 Subject: Installing software for only certain users In-Reply-To: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807251227.35790.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 July 2008 5:47:29 am Donn wrote: > Hi, > Is there any way to aptitude/apt-get install X for only one (or a few) > users but not others? Off the top of my head, I am thinking you could either play with permissions, or install from source into ~/ and make sure there are no group or others permissions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIn+90LG/oYII0YuAQInaQQAsDFAcbZQ2ye1/9wLCiqxsB9V25itX81C CStzHpQ5oI6p/vKITrE+4eniMB5e+96EwoP5aySDeh+tnycgBsbwpUnBDO8drY4P ieSP3Djnu8d13yy7ZRSnFOC291g/sAJs3n+sC3hcPaa5AK3KS2UhPtX1IzFVcBce N07aAR6hsqc= =aMPj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 16:49:14 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:49:14 +0200 Subject: Installing software for only certain users In-Reply-To: <200807251227.35790.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807251227.35790.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200807251849.14958.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:27:35 Art Alexion wrote: > Off the top of my head, I am thinking you could either play with > permissions, But doesn't [sudo apt-get install blah] just proceed as root putting software into all the users menus? How do you stop root :) > or install from source into ~/ and make sure there are no > group or others permissions. Sure, source... er. I was hoping for a [sudo apt-get --ignoreuser=zombi install blah] :D \d From rlp1938 at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 16:53:46 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:53:46 +0700 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files Message-ID: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> I need a CLI editor to resize jpg files ex digital camera down to something suitable for online use. I can do the job with Gimp but that is too cumbersome for a repetitive job such as this. A search on Google for 'cli editors for jpg' gets me lists of 1000's for GUI editors for mpegs, mp3. Anyone know of anything suitable? TIA Bob From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:06:01 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:06:01 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:53:46 Robert Parker wrote: > I need a CLI editor to resize jpg files ex digital camera down to > something suitable for online use. Copy your pics to shrinked/ to keep the originals safe, then in there: convert -resize 800x600 -quality 75 *.jpg You can also look at the mogrify command. Check [man imagemagick] or [convert --help] and [mogrify --help] Sorted! :D \d From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Jul 25 17:07:12 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:07:12 -0400 Subject: Installing software for only certain users Message-ID: <200807251307.12368.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 July 2008 12:49:14 pm Donn wrote: > On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:27:35 Art Alexion wrote: > > Off the top of my head, I am thinking you could either play with > > permissions, > > But doesn't [sudo apt-get install blah] just proceed as root putting > software into all the users menus? How do you stop root :) Yeah, but afterwords, you can go in and change the permissions of the /usr/bin executable. I'd disable others, assign it to a certain group, and only add permitted to the designated group. I have never tried it, and there may be a more elegant way to accomplish it, but, off the top of my head as I said, it should work. You may want to edit the global menu if you also want to obscure it from other users. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIoH50LG/oYII0YuAQJf9wP+Lpe3iDkKWjJMclTdo3WZu1N78K2Ap+Jx U3ctfgLs5BhmRliChDvEAiRuqyXiYhcEOtBfr0OhXlmp5aDETbrj9L+qm5yCcCst fxk2HAcgbrbhZkSXah46MWBMn+hGqaaNyZDur5Ctn7BgsY0n28kZVhF3RCv0Wfdn 3digvJuuw+Y= =yMny - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSIoIQELG/oYII0YuAQL8HQQAivgw4sHOXigShbOGgek4hQmKISeYPNoN +jVnw09/zndnCGptJ7O4lLeAcHpWiVZNP4p48pMlehWuOT1UBnrD2Zh+pqBn6lyn +1145cXDHIF8EYkLb3k23qxxF+hFdIze3V9fnaJB4c8psPGILjzuxznWtvMk5FKz xF2lqvS+DSA= =g7gH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rlp1938 at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:12:33 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:12:33 +0700 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Donn wrote: > On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:53:46 Robert Parker wrote: >> I need a CLI editor to resize jpg files ex digital camera down to >> something suitable for online use. > Copy your pics to shrinked/ to keep the originals safe, then in there: > convert -resize 800x600 -quality 75 *.jpg > > You can also look at the mogrify command. Check [man imagemagick] or > [convert --help] and [mogrify --help] > > Sorted! Yes I think you are right. Looking at the ImageMajick home page now. Thanks, Bob From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:19:32 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:19:32 +0200 Subject: Installing software for only certain users In-Reply-To: <200807251307.12368.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807251307.12368.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200807251919.32438.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 25 July 2008 19:07:12 Art Alexion wrote: > Yeah, but afterwords, you can go in and change the permissions of the > /usr/bin executable.  I'd disable others, assign it to a certain group, and > only add permitted to the designated group. Right I hear you. Horrifying and all, but if that's the only way.. \d -- "A computer without Windows is like chocolate cake without mustard." -- Anonymous Coward /. Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/ From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 25 17:36:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:36:47 -0400 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Robert Parker wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Donn wrote: > >> On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:53:46 Robert Parker wrote: >> >>> I need a CLI editor to resize jpg files ex digital camera down to >>> something suitable for online use. >>> >> Copy your pics to shrinked/ to keep the originals safe, then in there: >> convert -resize 800x600 -quality 75 *.jpg >> >> You can also look at the mogrify command. Check [man imagemagick] or >> [convert --help] and [mogrify --help] >> >> Sorted! >> > > Yes I think you are right. Looking at the ImageMajick home page now. > > Thanks, > Bob > > I am not knowlegable using the terminal, yet. Is there a graphic user interface that will manipulate large jpg files to make them smaller and usable on the computer? Steven From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:49:28 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:49:28 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200807251949.28950.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I am not knowlegable using the terminal, yet. Is there a graphic user > interface that will manipulate large jpg files to make them smaller and > usable on the computer? Yes, it's called 'konsole' and it renders these amazing fonts *and* it reads from the keyboard so you can type all kinds of amazing commands (which is quicker than using menus and buttons) like convert -resize 16x16 blah.jpg :D Sorry, couldn't resist. Try Gimp or Krita but I don't know any small interfaces off-hand. \d From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:46:58 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:46:58 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > I am not knowlegable using the terminal, yet. Is there a graphic user > interface that will manipulate large jpg files to make them smaller and > usable on the computer? > > Steven Using it is very easy. You might want to lean the basics. I have found imagemagic to be a bit hard to understand. You can use gimp as a gui image program and there are others too. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 18:18:03 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:18:03 +0200 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy In-Reply-To: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/25 Gerald I. Evenden : > While answering one of the comments on my previous complaint the disc > thrashing started again. I had been on the machine for about an hour prior > to this event. Again, per suggestion, I tried 'top' but could not figure out > what was happening. Then a popup message occurred indicating that I was > running out of memory. Because I wanted to get my email our I quickly sent > it an then did a shutdown. > > After rebooting I did a df which showed: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda6 152132292 136379128 8086148 95% / > varrun 1030896 156 1030740 1% /var/run > varlock 1030896 0 1030896 0% /var/lock > udev 1030896 64 1030832 1% /dev > devshm 1030896 0 1030896 0% /dev/shm > lrm 1030896 45040 985856 > 5% /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile > > and indeed I was running out of memory. I then did a du of my home user > directory and the follwing extract: > 129128672 ./.strigi/clucene > 4 ./.strigi/estraier > 129128688 ./.strigi > !!! > > I did a '/bin/rm -r .strigi' and disc usage is back to around 6%. > > I know there is a program called strigi which I tried a few weeks ago but had > not knowingly used it since. I guess it is tied to Konqueror. > > Is this program prone to runaway states? > > Any suggestions or comments appreciated. > Strigi is a desktop search daemon that index your files. If you search the archive of this list you would see nothing but trouble for those that tried it, the daemon crashes all the time, the index-files fills up your disk and using the different GUI for searching something only give you 10.000 results from your web browser cache. I never got it to work in Gutsy or Hardy so now i always uninstall it. Why the Kubuntu developer includes a program as default that don't work i cant understand and they have done it for two releases now. / Jonas From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Fri Jul 25 18:18:39 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:18:39 -0400 Subject: ASUS Eee 900 notebook with Ubuntu (slightly off list) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488A18FF.8070706@cfl.rr.com> I found the site (click on it, or copy and paste) below where the author has established a version of Ubuntu that will load and run on the ASUS Eee 900. Maybe it can be changed to Kubuntu (I haven't tried yet). However, I do know from personal experience that it does load and run on the Eee 900. I used a USB DVD drive to do it, although they have a download for a bootable USB drive version. Looks good!!! http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page Admittedly the camera support has not yet been incorporated into this version, but then when did (K,X,Ed...)Ubuntu ever support cams out of the box. The Wifi is fully supported and works. As a side note: I have a laserjet running off the router and was able to easily load support for it using Synaptic. For the most part is was almost impossible for me to get support on my Kubuntu box w/AMD64 using all the tools except for Synaptic. Wish I had tried it before. The printer is Brother HL-4040CN and works quite well with the router. Hope this information (about the Eee 900) helps anyone looking for a notebook running a decent linux distro. Tom From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 18:27:29 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:27:29 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/7/25 Steven Vollom : > I am not knowlegable using the terminal, yet. Is there a graphic user > interface that will manipulate large jpg files to make them smaller and > usable on the computer? > > Steven Try Kim: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kim+(Kde+Image+Menu)?content=11505 Description: * FEATURES: This is an image Kde servicemenu which allows to: - compress images, - resize images, - convert images, - rotate images, - rename images, - resize and send by mail images, - and more other actions ! This servicemenu use ImageMagick and Mpegtools. / Jonas From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 25 18:25:30 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:25:30 -0300 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2023301.hkvNXxSA8O@cedar.serverforest.com> Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > I know there is a program called strigi which I tried a few weeks ago but > had not knowingly used it since. I guess it is tied to Konqueror. > > Is this program prone to runaway states? yes. I remove strigi on any machine. I just can't understand why I need all my files indexed... It's not tied to konqueror, it's just a standard part of Kubuntu. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 25 18:29:12 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:29:12 -0300 Subject: wlan and interfaces References: <2851845.fu1XDH8LCj@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807251821.50654.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2517683.QyVVs4RorY@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> Generally, you _shouldn't_ have anything else in there. > If one does not use a gui to setup network stuff, where should all the > humpty-dumpty for eth0/1 and wireless go? Just asking cos I stick all > kinds of junk in /etc/network/interfaces If one doesn't use Network manager, everything probably belongs in /etc/network/interfaces, but I hate trying to debug somebody's network problems when they start by breaking NM and then complain NM doesn't work. I've never had a need to have a wired interface mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces since NM became part of Ubuntu. Sometimes, complicated setups need something but it's best to start from a clean file. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 19:04:03 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:04:03 +0200 Subject: wlan and interfaces In-Reply-To: <2517683.QyVVs4RorY@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807251821.50654.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2517683.QyVVs4RorY@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807252104.03482.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 25 July 2008 20:29:12 Derek Broughton wrote: > If one doesn't use Network manager, everything probably belongs > in /etc/network/interfaces, Okay, just so's I know :) \d From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 19:31:55 2008 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:31:55 -0400 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy In-Reply-To: <2023301.hkvNXxSA8O@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <2023301.hkvNXxSA8O@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807251531.55174.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> On Friday 25 July 2008 2:25:30 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > > I know there is a program called strigi which I tried a few weeks ago but > > had not knowingly used it since. I guess it is tied to Konqueror. > > > > Is this program prone to runaway states? > > yes. I remove strigi on any machine. I just can't understand why I need > all my files indexed... > > It's not tied to konqueror, it's just a standard part of Kubuntu. > -- > derek Many thanks for the explanation(you and Norlander). I did not realize anything was wrong except for hearing the disk thrashing and later some performance degradation. Then, suddenly, a warning popped up that I was running out of disk. Are we sure this isn't a virus planted by Apple or Microsoft? ;-) Bye-bye strigi! -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From toby at tarind.com Sat Jul 26 07:07:21 2008 From: toby at tarind.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:07:21 +0100 Subject: Installing software for only certain users References: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807251227.35790.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807251849.14958.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Donn wrote: > On Friday, 25 July 2008 18:27:35 Art Alexion wrote: >> Off the top of my head, I am thinking you could either play with >> permissions, > But doesn't [sudo apt-get install blah] just proceed as root putting > software into all the users menus? How do you stop root :) > >> or install from source into ~/ and make sure there are no >> group or others permissions. > Sure, source... er. I was hoping for a [sudo apt-get --ignoreuser=zombi > install blah] :D The menu items get automatically removed if the user does not have permissions to execute the appropriate program. So suppose you want to limit amarok.... create a new group called "amarokusers", and add the users who should be able to access it. Then: $sudo chgrp amarokusers `which amarok` $sudo chmod o-rwx `which amarok` That should leave you with: $ls -l `which amarok` -rwxr-x--- 1 root amarokusers 20380 2008-04-18 18:47 /usr/bin/amarok You might need to redo that if amarok gets upgraded. From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Sat Jul 26 07:24:37 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:24:37 +0100 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807251906.01306.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20080726082437.34d7eaa4@rocker-desktop> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:36:47 -0400 Steven Vollom wrote: > I am not knowlegable using the terminal, yet. Is there a graphic > user interface that will manipulate large jpg files to make them > smaller and usable on the computer? Yes, the GIMP If its a bit difficult to use, download Grokking The Gimp (its in the repositories) -- Graham Todd From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 07:29:56 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:29:56 +0200 Subject: Installing software for only certain users In-Reply-To: References: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807251849.14958.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807260929.56389.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Saturday, 26 July 2008 09:07:21 Toby Dickenson wrote: > $ls -l `which amarok` > -rwxr-x--- 1 root amarokusers 20380 2008-04-18 18:47 /usr/bin/amarok > You might need to redo that if amarok gets upgraded. Thanks Toby, I get the gist, but I can't help thinking it's a lot of work. I essentially want to keep one user's menu as clean as possible while my own can fill up with whatever. If I want blender, inkscape, phatch, eric, miro, scribus -- suddenly there are a lot of groups. I suppose I could create a DonnOnly group and make sure the other user is not in it, but I'm still chasing binaries and scripts through the fs to keep them in line. From a python-dev pov, I wonder how I'd write a python install file to offer a similar user exclusion. I have no idea! Perhaps the best route is simply to edit the user's menu and hide/remove the apps I don't want them to worry about. \d Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 09:03:21 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:03:21 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <8f6eb7340807251012o76e8cc62y73f8d54efd7cc347@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Steven, I totally forgot -- there is an awesome app called "Phatch" (for photo batch) that's out there. Hardy has it in the repos, but you can get it from the website (go search) and it's easy to install. It's really pretty damn amazing. hth \d From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Jul 25 20:32:23 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:23 -0300 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <2023301.hkvNXxSA8O@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807251531.55174.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2092318.GvvQZ2gU3p@cedar.serverforest.com> Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > Many thanks for the explanation(you and Norlander). I did not realize > anything was wrong except for hearing the disk thrashing and later some > performance degradation. Then, suddenly, a warning popped up that I was > running out of disk. > > Are we sure this isn't a virus planted by Apple or Microsoft? ;-) Frighteningly, it appears to have been solely perpetrated by our own developers... -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 14:12:12 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:12:12 +0200 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy In-Reply-To: <200807251531.55174.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <2023301.hkvNXxSA8O@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807251531.55174.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807261612.12537.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Are we sure this isn't a virus planted by Apple or Microsoft? ;-) I shall coin the phrase 'Strigulation' to cover this :D \d From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Jul 26 15:13:34 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:13:34 -0300 Subject: Installing software for only certain users References: <200807251147.29879.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807251227.35790.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807251849.14958.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3795673.LZJaTWM69W@cedar.serverforest.com> Toby Dickenson wrote: > The menu items get automatically removed if the user does not have > permissions to execute the appropriate program. So suppose you want to > limit amarok.... create a new group called "amarokusers", and add the > users who should be able to access it. Then: > > $sudo chgrp amarokusers `which amarok` > $sudo chmod o-rwx `which amarok` > > That should leave you with: > > $ls -l `which amarok` > -rwxr-x--- 1 root amarokusers 20380 2008-04-18 18:47 /usr/bin/amarok > > You might need to redo that if amarok gets upgraded. That's so cool. I love learning new stuff about this OS after a decade of use! -- derek From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Jul 26 18:03:44 2008 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:03:44 +0300 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488B6700.2030009@rmk.co.il> Robert Parker wrote: > I need a CLI editor to resize jpg files ex digital camera down to > something suitable for online use. > I can do the job with Gimp but that is too cumbersome for a repetitive > job such as this. > > A search on Google for 'cli editors for jpg' gets me lists of 1000's > for GUI editors for mpegs, mp3. > > Anyone know of anything suitable? > > TIA > Bob > I had to do a quick resize of a directory full of jpg's so that I could burn then to CD, so that a bunch of friends could watch them on a TV via a DVD player. The problem was that the originals were large and taking too long to load - so (after installing imagemagick): nigel at laptop:~$ cd path_to_dir nigel at laptop:~/path_of_dir$ for i in *.jpg; do montage -geometry 800x603 -background black -quality 95 $i -$i; done (note: the above is all on one line). You can change some of the parameters such as the quality. The '-background back' is a nice trick so that 'portrait' pics have a black background that is invisible when viewed on a TV screen. The '-geometry 800x603' was acquired by resizing one of my cameras jpg's in the Gimp. This one-liner will make copies of your originals and prefixing them with a hyphen (-$i;) HTH Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 26 18:54:36 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:54:36 -0400 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 26 July 2008, Donn wrote: > Steven, > I totally forgot -- there is an awesome app called "Phatch" (for photo > batch) that's out there. Hardy has it in the repos, but you can get it from > the website (go search) and it's easy to install. It's really pretty damn > amazing. Hmmm the 'phatch' I see in the repositories says: This package provides a module allowing you to use the SQLite3 self-contained database engine from within your PHP scripts, eliminating the need for a full SQL server installation like MySQL or PostgreSQL. From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 19:51:54 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:51:54 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <488A0F2F.1080803@sbcglobal.net> <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday 26 July 2008, Donn wrote: >> Steven, >> I totally forgot -- there is an awesome app called "Phatch" (for photo >> batch) that's out there. Hardy has it in the repos, but you can get it from >> the website (go search) and it's easy to install. It's really pretty damn >> amazing. > > Hmmm the 'phatch' I see in the repositories says: > > This package provides a module allowing you to use the SQLite3 self-contained > database engine from within your PHP scripts, eliminating the need for a full > SQL server installation like MySQL or PostgreSQL. Worked for me. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Jul 26 20:18:58 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:18:58 -0400 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200807261618.58377.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 26 July 2008, Knapp wrote: > > Hmmm  the 'phatch' I see in the repositories says: > > > > This package provides a module allowing you to use the SQLite3 > > self-contained database engine from within your PHP scripts, eliminating > > the need for a full SQL server installation like MySQL or PostgreSQL. > > Worked for me. Yeh... I did a search on 'photo batch' and a different phatch came up. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 20:36:44 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:36:44 +0200 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200807262236.44824.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:54:36 Bruce Marshall wrote: > Hmmm the 'phatch' I see in the repositories says: I installed it under Ubuntu Hardy with no problems. donn at toshi:~$ apt-cache search phatch phatch - simple to use cross-platform GUI Photo Batch Processor On Gutsy (my Kubuntu box) I had to fetch it from the website and install it. \d From rlp1938 at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 13:21:04 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:21:04 +0700 Subject: Need a cli editor for jpg files In-Reply-To: <200807262236.44824.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340807250953y15962085v5a2ac69bc8c99cdc@mail.gmail.com> <200807261103.21536.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200807261454.36378.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200807262236.44824.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340807270621i13333346web3cacac31c58cf7@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm writing this from an internet cafe using VirusCatcher-XP. Yet to compile Imagemagick, will report results tomorrow. Bob -- Incest is alright if you keep it in the family. From bbales at cox.net Sun Jul 27 16:59:15 2008 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:59:15 -0500 Subject: More on 8.04.1 buggy In-Reply-To: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200807251147.58621.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807271159.16482.bbales@cox.net> On Friday 25 July 2008 10:47:58 Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > While answering one of the comments on my previous complaint the disc > thrashing started again. I had been on the machine for about an hour prior > to this event. Again, per suggestion, I tried 'top' but could not figure > out what was happening. Then a popup message occurred indicating that I > was running out of memory. Because I wanted to get my email our I quickly > sent it an then did a shutdown. > > After rebooting I did a df which showed: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda6 152132292 136379128 8086148 95% / > varrun 1030896 156 1030740 1% /var/run > varlock 1030896 0 1030896 0% /var/lock > udev 1030896 64 1030832 1% /dev > devshm 1030896 0 1030896 0% /dev/shm > lrm 1030896 45040 985856 > 5% /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile > > and indeed I was running out of memory. I then did a du of my home user > directory and the follwing extract: > 129128672 ./.strigi/clucene > 4 ./.strigi/estraier > 129128688 ./.strigi > !!! > > I did a '/bin/rm -r .strigi' and disc usage is back to around 6%. > I did a 'locate strigi |wc' and it finds 68 instances. I had never heard of it and don't think I want it. Is rm the good way to get rid of it or would 'sudo apt-get remove strigi' do a more thorough job? bruce From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 19:29:37 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:29:37 +0300 Subject: No more kdepim4? Message-ID: <880dece00807271229mc4b7a40h6a6e86b156b7557e@mail.gmail.com> hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kdepim4 [sudo] password for hardy: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package kdepim4 hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ Why is that? Am I possibly missing a repo? hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423)]/ hardy main restricted # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu ## security team. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu ## users. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From stdin at stdin.me.uk Mon Jul 28 00:08:31 2008 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:08:31 +0100 Subject: No more kdepim4? In-Reply-To: <880dece00807271229mc4b7a40h6a6e86b156b7557e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00807271229mc4b7a40h6a6e86b156b7557e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488D0DFF.9070409@stdin.me.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kdepim4 > [sudo] password for hardy: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Couldn't find package kdepim4 > hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ > > Why is that? Am I possibly missing a repo? > Perhaps you mean kdepim-kde4? Terence From afalls at qvxlabs.com Mon Jul 28 03:47:50 2008 From: afalls at qvxlabs.com (Ardavon Falls) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:47:50 -0700 Subject: External USB disk drive issues Message-ID: <200807272047.51007.> I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 x64 and all is working well except it would auto mount my external hard disk. Is there something special I should to to get it to work? It shows up in dmesg so the kernel knows about it. Thanks Ardy !DSPAM:488d41d113616041116286! From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 05:27:49 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:27:49 +0300 Subject: No more kdepim4? In-Reply-To: <488D0DFF.9070409@stdin.me.uk> References: <880dece00807271229mc4b7a40h6a6e86b156b7557e@mail.gmail.com> <488D0DFF.9070409@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00807272227t753ae886w84c807fcb5ecdb79@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/28 Terence Simpson : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kdepim4 >> [sudo] password for hardy: >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> E: Couldn't find package kdepim4 >> hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ >> >> Why is that? Am I possibly missing a repo? >> > > > Perhaps you mean kdepim-kde4? > > Terence > Thanks, that's it! Interesting that apt-file did not find it: hardy at hardy-laptop:~$ sudo apt-file search kdepim | grep 4 [sudo] password for hardy: kdepim-doc: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdepim-apidocs/akregator/src/html/functions_0x64.html kdepim-doc: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdepim-apidocs/akregator/src/html/functions_0x74.html kdepim-doc: ........................... (more kdepim-doc) (more kdepim-doc) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From temps.jo at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 07:09:23 2008 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:09:23 +0200 Subject: External USB disk drive issues In-Reply-To: <-6811422806600565391@unknownmsgid> References: <-6811422806600565391@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hi look at : sudo gedit /ect/fstab here is my : # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sdb1 UUID=6e712b65-4330-40c3-b763-4e2737429e66 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sdb5 UUID=f8d66b4b-226f-463f-8b11-632b6e4f0c07 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 2008/7/28 Ardavon Falls > I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 x64 and all is working well except it > would > auto mount my external hard disk. Is there something special I should to to > get it to work? 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Is there something special I should to >> to >> get it to work? It shows up in dmesg so the kernel knows about it. >> >> Thanks >> Ardy >> >> !DSPAM:488d41d113616041116286! >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oybekfedora at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 07:55:08 2008 From: oybekfedora at gmail.com (Oybek Nuriddinov) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:55:08 +0900 Subject: 2 questions. Message-ID: <7bb426480807280055qaadb38bw9fa8d1ec20474de8@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody. Could you please tell me about a few questions. I know it is off-topic for you. I couldn't find it from the official site. 1.Hom many participants(members) in Kubuntu project? 2.Who is decision maker and how many are they? TIA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 08:06:26 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:06:26 +0200 Subject: 2 questions. In-Reply-To: <7bb426480807280055qaadb38bw9fa8d1ec20474de8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7bb426480807280055qaadb38bw9fa8d1ec20474de8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807281006.26391.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Monday, 28 July 2008 09:55:08 Oybek Nuriddinov wrote: > 1.Hom many participants(members) in Kubuntu project? Me. I am sockpuppeting all the others. > 2.Who is decision maker and how many are they? Me, naturally. :) \d From afalls at qvxlabs.com Mon Jul 28 08:29:07 2008 From: afalls at qvxlabs.com (Ardavon Falls) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:29:07 -0700 Subject: External USB disk drive issues In-Reply-To: References: <-6811422806600565391@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <488D8353.9090401@qvxlabs.com> Joris, Thank you for your reply, I got it to work by modifying fstab. Thanks > Hi sorry it was an experimental partition, in other partition I have > in my /etc/fstab this : > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # /dev/sdb6 > UUID=1530f861-08f2-4696-b43c-f1ae8c14c13e / ext3 > relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # /dev/sda5 > UUID=c62f84ff-15cf-47fa-b07d-04392a562c64 none swap > sw 0 0 > # /dev/sdb5 > UUID=de8681c4-a828-458b-a62c-388f67c30d56 none swap > sw 0 0 > # /dev/sdb7 > UUID=801c1a67-d1c7-44fe-9d3c-b1e8896302d8 none swap > sw 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > > > 2008/7/28 joris abadie @gmail.com > > > > Hi > look at : > sudo gedit /ect/fstab > > here is my : > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # /dev/sdb1 > UUID=6e712b65-4330-40c3-b763-4e2737429e66 / ext3 > relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # /dev/sdb5 > UUID=f8d66b4b-226f-463f-8b11-632b6e4f0c07 none swap > sw 0 0 > /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > > > 2008/7/28 Ardavon Falls > > > I recently installed Kubuntu 8.04 x64 and all is working well > except it would > auto mount my external hard disk. Is there something special I > should to to > get it to work? It shows up in dmesg so the kernel knows about it. > > Thanks > Ardy > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > !DSPAM:488d835413612961918119! From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Jul 28 14:09:38 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:09:38 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? Message-ID: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> I have been getting 404 errors. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 14:22:31 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:22:31 +0200 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2cdd5ab10807280722r626c7c6ei906c90cbbf9f41aa@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Art Alexion wrote: > I have been getting 404 errors. Getting 503's on apt-get update, so I guess down, yes. -- Greetings, Gordon. From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 14:24:00 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:24:00 +0200 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <2cdd5ab10807280722r626c7c6ei906c90cbbf9f41aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <2cdd5ab10807280722r626c7c6ei906c90cbbf9f41aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cdd5ab10807280724i570acd9at993f649c2d1b49f9@mail.gmail.com> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Art Alexion wrote: >> I have been getting 404 errors. > Getting 503's on apt-get update, so I guess down, yes. doh... on http://de.packages.medibuntu.org that is. -- Greetings, Gordon. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 16:39:19 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:39:19 -0600 Subject: hardy, vmware Message-ID: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> I just updated my main production (64-bit) machine to hardy. Seems to be fine, except that when I re-installed vmware (which I had to do), the installation seemed to go fine, but when I try to ru it I get: ---- [H:~] vmware /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) ---- Does anyone have any idea what that lot means and how to fix it? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 16:50:43 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:50:43 -0600 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> Found the fix: http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From girardhenri at free.fr Mon Jul 28 16:58:14 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:58:14 +0200 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> did you try virtualbox ? I think it's much better and lighter :) Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 10:50 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : > Found the fix: > > http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 17:07:36 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:07:36 +0300 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> Message-ID: <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/28 Girard Henri > did you try virtualbox ? > I think it's much better and lighter :) > > Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 10:50 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : > > Found the fix: > > > > > http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ > > > > Doc > > > > -- > > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > > > no one seems to give me a definite answer about this, is vmware any better than the free alternatives available? i've heard some people complain about USB support, which isn't a problem since i rarely use USB in my virtual machines, but what about stability? vmware never crashed or did anything funny with me, on windows and linux, not a single problem with network even after kernel updates. i want to also ask about compatibility, are vmware's virtual machines compatible with virtualbox? and vice-versa? thanks in advance -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 17:50:43 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:50:43 +0200 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488E06F3.7030205@gmail.com> Willy Hamra wrote: > 2008/7/28 Girard Henri > > > did you try virtualbox ? > I think it's much better and lighter :) > > Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 10:50 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : > > Found the fix: > > > > > http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ > > > > Doc > > > > -- > > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > > > > no one seems to give me a definite answer about this, is vmware any > better than the free alternatives available? i've heard some people > complain about USB support, which isn't a problem since i rarely use USB > in my virtual machines, but what about stability? vmware never crashed > or did anything funny with me, on windows and linux, not a single > problem with network even after kernel updates. i want to also ask about > compatibility, are vmware's virtual machines compatible with virtualbox? > and vice-versa? > thanks in advance > well I can not help on the compatibility but I use Virtualbox and run both XP and Vista for purpose of user-support and all works very well. USB-support is in the "non-OSE"-version so I am not using the one in the repos, network is very smooth. Better or not I can not say, just that VB works very well. Sinclair From girardhenri at free.fr Mon Jul 28 18:16:17 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:16:17 +0200 Subject: hardy, vmware References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com><1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can't answer all your questions... I am on hardy aspire coreduo and xpress1200 and i can't install vmware :) That's why i turn to another virtualbox. USB works fine after a little "hack" on ubuntu doc with xp it"s very speedy For other answers I don't know as I haven't any appliances Problem with vmware it's very heavy regards ----- Original Message ----- From: Willy Hamra To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: hardy, vmware 2008/7/28 Girard Henri did you try virtualbox ? I think it's much better and lighter :) Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 10:50 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : > Found the fix: > > http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > no one seems to give me a definite answer about this, is vmware any better than the free alternatives available? i've heard some people complain about USB support, which isn't a problem since i rarely use USB in my virtual machines, but what about stability? vmware never crashed or did anything funny with me, on windows and linux, not a single problem with network even after kernel updates. i want to also ask about compatibility, are vmware's virtual machines compatible with virtualbox? and vice-versa? thanks in advance -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. 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URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Mon Jul 28 18:49:52 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:49:52 +0300 Subject: hardy, vmware -> some VirtualBox instructions In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <488E14D0.3030007@mail.ee> > no one seems to give me a definite answer about this, is vmware any > better than the free alternatives available? i've heard some people > complain about USB support, which isn't a problem since i rarely use USB > in my virtual machines, but what about stability? vmware never crashed > or did anything funny with me, on windows and linux, not a single > problem with network even after kernel updates. i want to also ask about > compatibility, are vmware's virtual machines compatible with virtualbox? > and vice-versa? I use latest VirtualBox 1.6.2 under Kubuntu 8.04.1 LTS and it never crashed for me. To allow USB support under VirtualBox: * close VirtualBox if it were open * sudo nano /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh * approx 40. row ("Magic to make /proc/bus/usb work") remove # from the following rows: mkdir -p /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs domount usbfs "" /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs -obusmode=0700,devmode=0600,listmode=0644 ln -s .usbfs/devices /dev/bus/usb/devices mount --rbind /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb * save (F3) and quit nano (F2) * sudo /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh stop * sudo /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh start * sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv reload Sometimes there is needed another hack entered from command line: VBOX=$(grep vboxusers /etc/group | sed 's/vboxusers:x:\(.*\):.*/\1/') sudo mount -t usbfs -o devgid=$VBOX,devmode=664,nodev,noexec,nosuid none /proc/bus/usb ... or add these rows into /etc/rc.local to have load these at boot. Some more reading: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2007/07/11/virtualbox-usb/ http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-551469.html To allow VirtualBox machines use external router: ************************************************ * sudo apt-get update * sudo apt-get install bridge-utils * sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces and add the following rows: auto br0 iface br0 inet dhcp bridge_ports eth0 * check, that to file /etc/network/interfaces will be one empty row (EOF - End-of-File, which can be entered by pressing Enter) * save and do restart to networking: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart * add virtual network adapter to the user (will be written into /etc/vbox/interfaces) and repeat it as many times as you need virtual adapters for your virtual machines (e.g. vbox1, vbox2, etc.): sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 username br0 * sudo chmod 666 /dev/net/tun To check bridge, type: brctl show You should see something like: bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces br0 8000.00024476a5ba no eth0 vbox0 Certainly, if you have someting else as eth0 - replace it with your interface. Each virtual interface, e.g. vbox0 has its own MAC-address (which can be easily change through VirtualBox graphical interface) and other network parameters as regular network interface. Now when you create new VirtualBox machine, choose "host interface" and into field "Interface name" type appropriate virtual interface name, e.g. vbox0. Note - you can use each virtual network interface with one virtual machine at the same time. Shared folder in Windows Vista ****************************** http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/799 - one bug is recorded about that. To have permanent share mount, type at Vista prompt: net use X: \\VBOXSVR\shared-folder-name /PERSISTENT:YES ....where X: replace with desired drive. To remove, type: net use X: /DELETE Shared folders don't work if user is not member of Administrators group. Regular user without administrator rights can access shared folders if user with administrator rights has accessed at least once the shared folder. This is annoying but so it is. Currently. Clone virtual hard disk: ************************ VBoxManage clonevdi /place/where/is/located/original/virtual_hard_disk.vdi /place/where/you/would/like/to/have/cloned/virtual_hard_disk.vdi Then also Windows SID's will be removed and you can the same virtual hard disk with already installed OS use in the same VirtualBox in the same computer. Perfomance and other compare with freeware VM Ware server ************************************************************ Perfomance is increadibly faster than in freeware VM Ware Server. Especially by switching between full and windowed screen. VM Ware has true BIOS emulator, which could be sometimes cool to teach it to somebody. VirtualBox has just graphical configuration for BIOS before you run virtual machine, when VM Ware BIOS will be accessible when you run virtual machine, which is more similar for true situation. VM Ware has better shared folder system if you have commercial VM Ware Workstation. Freeware VM Ware server doesn't have shared folder but you can share folders over network. I used VM Ware before but now I use VirtualBox and it works for me. I even use Estonian ID-card with USB-cardreader SC Micro 3110 under VirtualBox and under Estobuntu Linux (http://estobuntu.org/estobuntu-english). But you can try these virtual machine programs yourself and have your own experience. I like VirtualBox but it's my decision - you can have different likes. Here is one good list and comparison of available virtual machine programs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines Some more reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM - Ubuntu 8.04 has also Kernel Virtual Machines also with graphical manager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox Best Regards, Edmund Laugasson From spwhite at freesurf.ch Mon Jul 28 20:23:43 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:23:43 +0200 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807282223.44108.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Monday 28 July 2008 18:39, D. R. Evans wrote: > I just updated my main production (64-bit) machine to hardy. > > Seems to be fine, except that when I re-installed vmware (which I had to > do), the installation seemed to go fine, but when I try to ru it I get: > > ---- > > [H:~] vmware > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) *required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2* cairo expects to find libgcc_s.so.1 in /usr/lib/vmware/lib/ but your version of vmware installer for was not designed to work with your version/installation of the cairo stuff (I don't even know what cairo or vmware do, and I'm too lazy or tired now to learn about that now, furthermore I don't have hardy, nor a 64 bit, so take my advice for what it is) Probably you will find libgcc_s.so.1 elsewhere on your drive and be able to do a symlink to libgcc_s.so.1 from /usr/lib/vmware/lib/ > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) *required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6* Use same technique as above. The rest is only repetitions of the same merror messages. > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) > /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: > /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not > found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6) > HTH Perry -- Incest is alright if you keep it in the family. From spwhite at freesurf.ch Mon Jul 28 21:09:58 2008 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:09:58 +0200 Subject: hardy, vmware In-Reply-To: <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807282309.59402.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Monday 28 July 2008 18:50, D. R. Evans wrote: > Found the fix: Oops, sorry, I did it again, answered without checking for latest replies. I had a quick glance at your link: http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/30/kubuntu-804-64bit-essential-apps-install-guide/5/ Since that gives the complete installation steps and it worked for you I can't help you. *<[:oD I also can't know what you did wrong the previous time and wether my strategy would have worked. Amaising the comment they gave: > > > To fix this just rename the libgcc_s.so.1: I belive they are renaming a folder, not a file. > > > root at fekwhp:/usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1# mv libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1-bak > > > So now vmware takes the libgcc_s.so.1 from /usr/lib which is the one provided by kubuntu! It reads as if they provided a dummy libgcc_s.so.1 file that cairo wouldn't even see??? or cairo sees first the eponyme folder and therefore fails to see the file with the same name... something clumsy about this. Perry -- BOFH excuse #178: short leg on process table From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Tue Jul 29 00:02:03 2008 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:02:03 -0700 Subject: ATI, FGLRX,s-video, VGA-out Message-ID: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> My fglrx driver, installed with 8.04 produces horrible b/w swiggly lines on the s-video and no output on VGA-out, although it recognizes the tv or monitor that is plugged in to either port. The latest fglrx driver produces b/w picture on s-video...slight inprovement. I am trying to use my laptop for presentation in a few weeks. Obviously this arrangement is less than suitable. Does anyone have any suggestions? HP dv8000 with ATI X200M. Larry From brownstixzz at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 06:24:29 2008 From: brownstixzz at gmail.com (JD. Brown) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:24:29 -0600 Subject: 2 questions. In-Reply-To: <7bb426480807280055qaadb38bw9fa8d1ec20474de8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7bb426480807280055qaadb38bw9fa8d1ec20474de8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Oybek Nuriddinov wrote: > Hello everybody. > Could you please tell me about a few questions. > I know it is off-topic for you. I couldn't find it from the official site. > > 1.Hom many participants(members) in Kubuntu project? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members Also see: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings > 2.Who is decision maker and how many are they? There are several decision makers within Kubuntu. Become a member and start working your issue(s) up the chain of command. Regards, -- JD. Brown Linux User # 375995 - http://counter.li.org/ Debian - http://www.debian.org/intro/about From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 06:26:18 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:26:18 +0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> Art Alexion wrote: > I have been getting 404 errors. > have you performed wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update ? From cary at bielenberg.id.au Tue Jul 29 06:44:00 2008 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:44:00 +1000 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <488EBC30.7030207@bielenberg.id.au> Is down for me as well, unless they changed the key in the last day I would say the site is down. Cary Alexander Smirnov wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> I have been getting 404 errors. >> >> > have you performed > wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo > apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update > ? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.muls at telenet.be Tue Jul 29 07:34:47 2008 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:34:47 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 Message-ID: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> Hi kubuntu-users From time to time, in the evening, I try out the KDE4.1 on Hardy Heron for which I have a separate partition set up. I find the look and feel (mostly) very nice and the KDE applications respond faster (eg. startup time) than in the v3.5 versions I daily use. However, the 4.1 version is by far not as stable as I wanted and does not perform the stuff promised in reviews of this new version. I find that Konqueror web browsing runs fast and smooth except that it crashes quite often. Also the new panel crashes and I loose the window decorations quite often. I do not know which command to run to restart these items. I also tried the new kword and kspread, good startup speeds, very nice looking, but stability is not there. I also tried to convert the mail from thunderbird to kontact but this failed, the kmail component could not read it when I pointed it to the converted ~/Mail/Mozilla file. Does anybody else experience the same kind of problems. When will kde v4 be ready for daily desktop use? Bye/Alain -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I > do not know which command to run to restart these items. > I also tried the new kword and kspread, good startup speeds, very nice > looking, but stability is not there. > I also tried to convert the mail from thunderbird to kontact but this > failed, the kmail component could not read it when I pointed it to the > converted ~/Mail/Mozilla file. > > Does anybody else experience the same kind of problems. > When will kde v4 be ready for daily desktop use? > > Bye/Alain This is open source software. I is ready when you find it read. Also the errors will get fixed after someone like you finds them and reports them and then someone else fixes them. If a 1000 people did each task it would be ready in the morning. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 12:45:29 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:45:29 -0700 Subject: hardy, vmware -> some VirtualBox instructions In-Reply-To: <488E14D0.3030007@mail.ee> References: <488DF637.80506@gmail.com> <488DF8E3.9030307@gmail.com> <1217264294.7556.0.camel@ai> <15edeae40807281007o5ba9c775h7d23e8b616c6d309@mail.gmail.com> <488E14D0.3030007@mail.ee> Message-ID: <15edeae40807290545y1b188079q3b3f94ef3e549dcc@mail.gmail.com> On 28/07/2008, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> no one seems to give me a definite answer about this, is vmware any >> better than the free alternatives available? i've heard some people >> complain about USB support, which isn't a problem since i rarely use USB >> in my virtual machines, but what about stability? vmware never crashed >> or did anything funny with me, on windows and linux, not a single >> problem with network even after kernel updates. i want to also ask about >> compatibility, are vmware's virtual machines compatible with virtualbox? >> and vice-versa? > > I use latest VirtualBox 1.6.2 under Kubuntu 8.04.1 LTS and it never crashed > for me. > > To allow USB support under VirtualBox: > > * close VirtualBox if it were open > * sudo nano /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh > * approx 40. row ("Magic to make /proc/bus/usb work") remove # from the > following rows: > > mkdir -p /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs > domount usbfs "" /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs > -obusmode=0700,devmode=0600,listmode=0644 > ln -s .usbfs/devices /dev/bus/usb/devices > mount --rbind /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb > > * save (F3) and quit nano (F2) > * sudo /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh stop > * sudo /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh start > * sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv reload > > > Sometimes there is needed another hack entered from command line: > VBOX=$(grep vboxusers /etc/group | sed 's/vboxusers:x:\(.*\):.*/\1/') > sudo mount -t usbfs -o devgid=$VBOX,devmode=664,nodev,noexec,nosuid none > /proc/bus/usb > > ... or add these rows into /etc/rc.local to have load these at boot. > > Some more reading: > http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2007/07/11/virtualbox-usb/ > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-551469.html > > > To allow VirtualBox machines use external router: > ************************************************ > * sudo apt-get update > * sudo apt-get install bridge-utils > * sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces and add the following rows: > auto br0 > iface br0 inet dhcp > bridge_ports eth0 > > * check, that to file /etc/network/interfaces will be one empty row > (EOF - End-of-File, which > can be entered by pressing Enter) > * save and do restart to networking: > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart > * add virtual network adapter to the user (will be written into > /etc/vbox/interfaces) and > repeat it as many times as you need virtual adapters for your virtual > machines (e.g. vbox1, vbox2, > etc.): > sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 username br0 > * sudo chmod 666 /dev/net/tun > > To check bridge, type: brctl show > You should see something like: > bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces > br0 8000.00024476a5ba no eth0 > vbox0 > > Certainly, if you have someting else as eth0 - replace it with your > interface. Each virtual > interface, e.g. vbox0 has its own MAC-address (which can be easily change > through VirtualBox > graphical interface) and other network parameters as regular network > interface. > > Now when you create new VirtualBox machine, choose "host interface" and into > field "Interface name" > type appropriate virtual interface name, e.g. vbox0. Note - you can use each > virtual network > interface with one virtual machine at the same time. > > Shared folder in Windows Vista > ****************************** > http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/799 - one bug is recorded about that. > > To have permanent share mount, type at Vista prompt: > net use X: \\VBOXSVR\shared-folder-name /PERSISTENT:YES > > ....where X: replace with desired drive. > > To remove, type: > net use X: /DELETE > > Shared folders don't work if user is not member of Administrators group. > Regular user without > administrator rights can access shared folders if user with administrator > rights has accessed at > least once the shared folder. This is annoying but so it is. Currently. > > Clone virtual hard disk: > ************************ > VBoxManage clonevdi /place/where/is/located/original/virtual_hard_disk.vdi > /place/where/you/would/like/to/have/cloned/virtual_hard_disk.vdi > > Then also Windows SID's will be removed and you can the same virtual hard > disk with already > installed OS use in the same VirtualBox in the same computer. > > Perfomance and other compare with freeware VM Ware server > ************************************************************ > Perfomance is increadibly faster than in freeware VM Ware Server. Especially > by switching between > full and windowed screen. VM Ware has true BIOS emulator, which could be > sometimes cool to teach it > to somebody. VirtualBox has just graphical configuration for BIOS before you > run virtual machine, > when VM Ware BIOS will be accessible when you run virtual machine, which is > more similar for true > situation. VM Ware has better shared folder system if you have commercial VM > Ware Workstation. > Freeware VM Ware server doesn't have shared folder but you can share folders > over network. I used VM > Ware before but now I use VirtualBox and it works for me. I even use > Estonian ID-card with > USB-cardreader SC Micro 3110 under VirtualBox and under Estobuntu Linux > (http://estobuntu.org/estobuntu-english). > But you can try these virtual machine programs yourself and have your own > experience. I like > VirtualBox but it's my decision - you can have different likes. Here is one > good list and comparison > of available virtual machine programs - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines > > Some more reading: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM - Ubuntu 8.04 has also Kernel Virtual > Machines also with > graphical manager > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox > thanks for this detailed response, i'll give vbox a try for a couple of weeks thanks for the other responses too, in the other thread -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Tue Jul 29 13:44:47 2008 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:44:47 -0700 Subject: ATI, FGLRX,s-video, VGA-out In-Reply-To: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <200807290644.48204.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Monday 28 July 2008 05:02:03 pm Larry Hartman wrote: > My fglrx driver, installed with 8.04 produces horrible b/w swiggly lines on > the s-video and no output on VGA-out, although it recognizes the tv or > monitor that is plugged in to either port. > > The latest fglrx driver produces b/w picture on s-video...slight > inprovement. I am trying to use my laptop for presentation in a few weeks. > Obviously this arrangement is less than suitable. Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > > HP dv8000 with ATI X200M. > > > Larry wholly intolerable... Envyng broke during install, so I uninstalled the installed portions...now the packaged ATI driver does not show up in the proprietary drivers gui, it installs from the package manager, but without direct rendering. Larry From info at alvin.be Tue Jul 29 14:06:58 2008 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:06:58 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 12:29:40 Knapp wrote: > This is open source software. I is ready when you find it read. Also > the errors will get fixed after someone like you finds them and > reports them and then someone else fixes them. If a 1000 people did > each task it would be ready in the morning. A quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1 : "There will be many bugs with this release and it is recommended that you do not file bug reports against the packages in this release." I currently work with KDE 4.1rc1 and there are indeed a lot of bugs in this release. However, the possibilities look promising. Tomorrow, the final version 4.1 is expected and most of the bugs will probably still be there. I think we may file some bugs against those packages. -- Alvin From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 14:52:08 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:52:08 +0300 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <15edeae40807290752i672edc08m1dab53c8b0b24f9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/29 Alvin > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 12:29:40 Knapp wrote: > > > This is open source software. I is ready when you find it read. Also > > the errors will get fixed after someone like you finds them and > > reports them and then someone else fixes them. If a 1000 people did > > each task it would be ready in the morning. > > A quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1 : > > "There will be many bugs with this release and it is recommended that you > do > not file bug reports against the packages in this release." > > I currently work with KDE 4.1rc1 and there are indeed a lot of bugs in this > release. However, the possibilities look promising. Tomorrow, the final > version > 4.1 is expected and most of the bugs will probably still be there. I think > we > may file some bugs against those packages. > > a question, why are we recommended to NOT file bug reports? what good will that bring them? or are they aready aware of the bugs, and afraid to be overloaded with bug reports? -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rscrawford at mossroot.com Tue Jul 29 15:42:24 2008 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:42:24 -0700 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200807290842.24957.rscrawford@mossroot.com> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:34:47 Alain Muls wrote: > Does anybody else experience the same kind of problems. > When will kde v4 be ready for daily desktop use? I also prod at 4.1 occasionally. I agree that it's gorgeous and fast, and definitely takes the KDE environment in exciting new directions. I've stuck with KDE 3.5.x, though, for a couple of reasons. First, I'm lazy. I don't fancy the idea of migrating all of my data from 3.5 to 4.1, and taking the time to set up my desktop the way I like it. Second, I haven't yet seen any "OMGIMUSTHAVEITNOW!" features in 4.1 that would really convince me to migrate. KDE 3.5.x does everything I need, far more successfully than any other desktop environment I've used (not a slam against GNOME or any other environment, just a statement about how my own needs are met). Plus, with Compiz/Fusion/whatever installed I can spend hours just playing with pretty widgets. As I understand it, KDE 4 is meant to be a development platform around which a newer, better desktop environment will be built, and not a complete environment itself, so it will take some time before KDE 4.x is as feature complete as 3.5.x is. And since the KDE group will continue development on the 3.5 series for now (3.5.10 is due out later this summer), and since I'm just a programmer or developer, I simply have no need to make the switch for now. -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford Editor-in-chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Personal website: http://www.mossroot.com From teeahr1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 15:44:39 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:44:39 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <15edeae40807290752i672edc08m1dab53c8b0b24f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> <15edeae40807290752i672edc08m1dab53c8b0b24f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217346279.6977.7.camel@brother-love> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 17:52 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: > > A quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1 : > > "There will be many bugs with this release and it is > recommended that you do > not file bug reports against the packages in this release." > > I currently work with KDE 4.1rc1 and there are indeed a lot of > bugs in this > release. However, the possibilities look promising. Tomorrow, > the final version > 4.1 is expected and most of the bugs will probably still be > there. I think we > may file some bugs against those packages. > > a question, why are we recommended to NOT file bug reports? what good > will that bring them? or are they aready aware of the bugs, and afraid > to be overloaded with bug reports? Disclaimer: IANAKDEDev The Kubuntu packages are, as I understand it, development snapshots so there isn't much of use to give upstream. By the time you've finished downloading the update, their code has already changed. Bug reporting will re-commence with the 4.1 release. -p.daniels From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 15:44:39 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:44:39 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > have you performed > wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo > apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It is not an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm wondering why there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to be found via google on this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSI867ELG/oYII0YuAQK9SwP9FzIuSNbxxjircXqSRG2nUOGKIWXaDK/v MOLpqBbEET9iOf4oVPeF98UReLr6kSa8R1ZiG4IuUlLDTTjq4U0YlEkssFz78Nbp 8U9HRH5we+YGtC7hQtqy6gHG+phlMdKXrpu7WxsOfaL2mXEUBIHKz/uzK8XtcltX 5LzzOZQJmpU= =UOzE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gloonie at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 15:53:29 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:53:29 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200807291153.30080.gloonie@earthlink.net> Yesterday I tried: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list and this worked. It is explained the Medibuntu website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories HTH, Glenn On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:44:39 Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > have you performed > > wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo > > apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update > > Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It is > not an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm wondering > why there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to be found via > google on this. -- Glenn R Williams ------------------------- Yaşamak bir ağaç gibi tek ve hür ve bir orman gibi kardeşçesine, bu hasret bizim. -- Nazım Hikmet From teeahr1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 16:23:10 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:23:10 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <200807290842.24957.rscrawford@mossroot.com> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> <200807290842.24957.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: <1217348590.6977.32.camel@brother-love> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 08:42 -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I also prod at 4.1 occasionally. I agree that it's gorgeous and fast, and > definitely takes the KDE environment in exciting new directions. > > I've stuck with KDE 3.5.x, though, for a couple of reasons. First, I'm lazy. I > don't fancy the idea of migrating all of my data from 3.5 to 4.1, and taking > the time to set up my desktop the way I like it. > > Second, I haven't yet seen any "OMGIMUSTHAVEITNOW!" features in 4.1 that would > really convince me to migrate. KDE 3.5.x does everything I need, far more > successfully than any other desktop environment I've used (not a slam against > GNOME or any other environment, just a statement about how my own needs are > met). Plus, with Compiz/Fusion/whatever installed I can spend hours just > playing with pretty widgets. > > As I understand it, KDE 4 is meant to be a development platform around which a > newer, better desktop environment will be built, and not a complete > environment itself, so it will take some time before KDE 4.x is as feature > complete as 3.5.x is. And since the KDE group will continue development on > the 3.5 series for now (3.5.10 is due out later this summer), and since I'm > just a programmer or developer, I simply have no need to make the switch for > now. I'll chime in here, I guess. I've been on KDE 4 fulltime on my desktop since 4.0.0 hit the repositories (I initially tried to install it alongside KDE 3, but it screwed up my settings and menus so bad that I just carpet-bombed it and started over). As we've all seen it is kind of a mixed bag, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives. Kwin's built-in compositing, while not as full-featured as Compiz (although that's changing quickly) beats the pants off it in terms of performance. I tried Compiz on my desktop (Pentium D, 1 GB RAM) and it wasn't unacceptably slow, but Kwin is noticeably faster. Crashy, though. KOffice vs. OpenOffice, ditto. So much faster it's ridiculous, but crashes at the drop of a hat. So far for me, the outstanding application is Okular, the new document viewer.[1] But the really exciting stuff is happening in the frameworks like Plasma and Phonon. Phonon's a cool idea, what they're trying to do is take all the multimedia backends and make a single API for developers to use. What this means in practice is that you don't need seventy-eleven different media plugins for Konqueror, or whole different libraries for Dragon Player. Phonon will handle it all as long as the backends are in place. Again, I'm not a developer, but to me, it's cool getting to watch this stuff come together in real-time. Yes, sometimes I'm swearing at my computer, but not nearly as often as I was when 4.0.0 first hit the street. It's mostly little stuff now like the widgets not always saving themselves on logout or the the screen always coming up at 1024x800 on boot. Small price to pay to watch the future happen. best wishes p.daniels 1: http://introducingkde4.blogspot.com/2007/12/okular.html From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 16:34:37 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:34:37 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807291153.30080.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291153.30080.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200807291234.42933.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 That worked. That was the way I enabled it a year ago and the way I re-enabled it when I upgraged gutsy->hardy, but it had stopped working. Maybe they changed the hostname or folder? On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:53:29 am Glenn R Williams wrote: > Yesterday I tried: > > sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list > > and this worked. It is explained the Medibuntu website: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories > > HTH, > > Glenn > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:44:39 Art Alexion wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > have you performed > > > wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo > > > apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update > > > > Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It is > > not an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm wondering > > why there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to be found via > > google on this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSI9GokLG/oYII0YuAQJ1gQP/S8v2xmMsL/KW4n8ARNEPl6D9PNX/Ttv4 qzywbT3hLQy2GzG6CVtYn2/Q6yVgmuDPToYhlc/hWn7qhauck8U0rzWUiL/yzTAU KSqFyksqX6Kb879GYqt58Ep6SVVFHE0FpttfObYCEhTOFe7IHepilyMb1Z2JilrW IjChoSLkXdU= =5k0n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gloonie at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 16:36:49 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:36:49 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807291234.42933.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291153.30080.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200807291234.42933.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200807291236.50067.gloonie@earthlink.net> Yes, I think somewhere I read that a server was down... On Tuesday 29 July 2008 12:34:37 Art Alexion wrote: > That worked. That was the way I enabled it a year ago and the way I > re-enabled it when I upgraged gutsy->hardy, but it had stopped working. > Maybe they changed the hostname or folder? > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:53:29 am Glenn R Williams wrote: > > Yesterday I tried: > > > > sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list > > > > and this worked. It is explained the Medibuntu website: > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories > > > > HTH, > > > > Glenn > > > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:44:39 Art Alexion wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > > have you performed > > > > wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo > > > > apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update > > > > > > Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It > > > is not an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm > > > wondering why there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to > > > be found via google on this. -- Glenn R Williams ------------------------- Yaşamak bir ağaç gibi tek ve hür ve bir orman gibi kardeşçesine, bu hasret bizim. -- Nazım Hikmet From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Jul 29 17:43:49 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:43:49 -0300 Subject: medibuntu archives down? References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <488EB80A.8070707@gmail.com> <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2136099.m3KzrEoKJ5@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: >> have you performed >> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo >> apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update > > Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It is > not It didn't. A couple of months back I went a week without being able to reach Medibuntu. > an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm wondering why > there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to be found via > google on this. It worked for me yesterday and today. -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 19:41:52 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:41:52 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <2136099.m3KzrEoKJ5@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> <2136099.m3KzrEoKJ5@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807291541.52757.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 29 July 2008 1:43:49 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >>  It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. > > It didn't.  A couple of months back I went a week without being able to > reach Medibuntu You know that's not what I meant. Of course servers go down occasionally and come back up, but I didn't have to reconfigure the sources.list to get it to work again when they were offline for short bits before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSI9ygELG/oYII0YuAQLfygP/QPJroWb+7weXQD7E3R0wGrP3RwWPOuU/ Qe6P1nVoSH4BCX5TRYuAwV506hFwCeV7+x7v6Hr7LUsj7lPnM6aW2aulkQi9JGeC w90zSXjdQF2hJyiv9fGBkZeLfqYT1H5gDOPGF69/1Du0Et/0vl+k6Yp3c2Q8oj4X bisBxpE7sXE= =r3ng -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:30:39 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:30:39 -0600 Subject: Q: 4.1 and non-interference with 3.5.9? Message-ID: <488F7DEF.6070104@gmail.com> I have vaguely been following the various discussions here about KDE 4.x. Now that 4.1 has been released, I'm awfully tempted to try it for myself. But I don't want to risk losing ANYTHING from my 3.5.9 installation. At this point, does it appear to be completely safe to install 4.1 as described at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1? That is, if I install this, will I definitely be able to revert to my fully-functional 3.5.9 exactly as it is now? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 21:02:56 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:02:56 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Alvin wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 12:29:40 Knapp wrote: > >> This is open source software. I is ready when you find it read. Also >> the errors will get fixed after someone like you finds them and >> reports them and then someone else fixes them. If a 1000 people did >> each task it would be ready in the morning. > > A quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1 : > > "There will be many bugs with this release and it is recommended that you do > not file bug reports against the packages in this release." > > I currently work with KDE 4.1rc1 and there are indeed a lot of bugs in this > release. However, the possibilities look promising. Tomorrow, the final version > 4.1 is expected and most of the bugs will probably still be there. I think we > may file some bugs against those packages. > > -- > Alvin So what in the world is the reason for releasing KDE 4 with all those bugs? I can understand it, if you are looking to find more bugs with a larger group of people running it. To release buggy software without wanting to know about the bugs just sounds dumb to me. It makes you look bad and for what? Why do it??? -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From teeahr1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 22:13:51 2008 From: teeahr1 at gmail.com (p.daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:13:51 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> <200807291606.58956.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <1217369631.6795.1.camel@brother-love> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:02 +0200, Knapp wrote: > So what in the world is the reason for releasing KDE 4 with all those > bugs? I can understand it, if you are looking to find more bugs with a > larger group of people running it. To release buggy software without > wanting to know about the bugs just sounds dumb to me. It makes you > look bad and for what? Why do it??? I think you misunderstand. It's not the KDE development team that is requesting that you not submit bugs, it's the Ubuntu packaging team. And the reason, as I stated in my previous reply to this thread, is that bug reports on the packages simply wouldn't be helpful at this stage in development. Now that 4.1 is stable, I assume this will change. -p.daniels From paul at lemmons.name Tue Jul 29 22:28:47 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:28:47 -0700 Subject: KDE 4.1 kde-look widgets/plasmoids Message-ID: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> I am poking at KDE4.1 and trying to locate the things most dear to me from kde 3.5. One of those things is the QuickLaunch panel. I found what looks to be a replacement on the kde-look site. I got to the kde-look site by clicking on the "Install New Widgets" at the bottom of the "Add Widgets" dialog. However, when I installed the desired widget it failed to show up in the "Add Widgets" dialog. I tried several widgets and all behave the same way. When I go back to the "Install New Widgets" dialog I can see that my selections are installed. Am I missing something obvious? Is there some voodoo you must dootoo the Add Widget dialog to get the new widgets to show up in the list? -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 02:13:23 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:13:23 +0000 Subject: Q: 4.1 and non-interference with 3.5.9? Message-ID: <073020080213.20148.488FCE43000B0ABB00004EB42200748184CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> So here's my take after playing around with beta, rc1 and today, the final release... Your data is probably completely safe. I would say less about your configuration, but that can probably be managed by making a backup of ~/.kde before playing around with kde4. The biggest problem I've run into is that if I use the classic K menu in 4.1, when it crashes (which it is still prone to do), it will mess up the K menu in 3.5.9 for that user. To go a bit OT...The other thing I have noticed is that a number of system tray applets (smb4k, knetload, networkmanager, guidance-power-manager) will only load to the 4.1 tray if 3.5.9 is running (run 4.1 as the same user under a different X session). These do not load if 3.5.9 isn't running. I agree with the initial reviews that 4.1 is more than usable, but it still isn't at the level of 3.5.9 and the small speed increase is not a sufficiently compelling reason to switch. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "D. R. Evans" > I have vaguely been following the various discussions here about KDE 4.x. > Now that 4.1 has been released, I'm awfully tempted to try it for myself. > But I don't want to risk losing ANYTHING from my 3.5.9 installation. > > At this point, does it appear to be completely safe to install 4.1 as > described at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1? That is, if I install > this, will I definitely be able to revert to my fully-functional 3.5.9 > exactly as it is now? > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 02:13:23 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:13:23 +0000 Subject: Q: 4.1 and non-interference with 3.5.9? Message-ID: <073020080213.20148.488FCE43000B0ABB00004EB42200748184CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> So here's my take after playing around with beta, rc1 and today, the final release... Your data is probably completely safe. I would say less about your configuration, but that can probably be managed by making a backup of ~/.kde before playing around with kde4. The biggest problem I've run into is that if I use the classic K menu in 4.1, when it crashes (which it is still prone to do), it will mess up the K menu in 3.5.9 for that user. To go a bit OT...The other thing I have noticed is that a number of system tray applets (smb4k, knetload, networkmanager, guidance-power-manager) will only load to the 4.1 tray if 3.5.9 is running (run 4.1 as the same user under a different X session). These do not load if 3.5.9 isn't running. I agree with the initial reviews that 4.1 is more than usable, but it still isn't at the level of 3.5.9 and the small speed increase is not a sufficiently compelling reason to switch. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "D. R. Evans" > I have vaguely been following the various discussions here about KDE 4.x. > Now that 4.1 has been released, I'm awfully tempted to try it for myself. > But I don't want to risk losing ANYTHING from my 3.5.9 installation. > > At this point, does it appear to be completely safe to install 4.1 as > described at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1? That is, if I install > this, will I definitely be able to revert to my fully-functional 3.5.9 > exactly as it is now? > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Wed Jul 30 05:45:55 2008 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:45:55 -0700 Subject: ATI, FGLRX,s-video, VGA-out In-Reply-To: <200807290644.48204.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <200807290644.48204.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <200807292245.55560.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 06:44:47 am Larry Hartman wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2008 05:02:03 pm Larry Hartman wrote: > > My fglrx driver, installed with 8.04 produces horrible b/w swiggly lines > > on the s-video and no output on VGA-out, although it recognizes the tv or > > monitor that is plugged in to either port. > > > > The latest fglrx driver produces b/w picture on s-video...slight > > inprovement. I am trying to use my laptop for presentation in a few > > weeks. Obviously this arrangement is less than suitable. Does anyone > > have any suggestions? > > > > > > HP dv8000 with ATI X200M. > > > > > > Larry > > wholly intolerable... > > Envyng broke during install, so I uninstalled the installed portions...now > the packaged ATI driver does not show up in the proprietary drivers gui, it > installs from the package manager, but without direct rendering. > > Larry Took me an hour to sort it all out. I tried again with Envy and achieved a successful install. Then I deinstalled it, afterwards the proprietary driver widget finally showed the ATI driver. I checked the appropriate box and restarted.....successful boot but left with black screen after x-server start. Rebooted under recovery and reconfigured x. Restarted again and discovered that envy left some source packages installed. When I deinstalled those and rechecked the ATI box in the proprietary drivers widget--and after another restart--finally brought everything back to where I started. I am gonna print my presentation with notes and present them as handouts. I will wait for kubuntu 8.10 with updated fglrx to readdress my s-video and vga-out problems. I suspect that it is a driver issue, although I haven't ruled out broken hardware. Did I ever say on the list how horrible the ATI X200M is? Larry From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 06:57:37 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:57:37 +0200 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <200807291236.50067.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291153.30080.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200807291234.42933.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291236.50067.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <489010E1.3040301@gmail.com> Glenn R Williams wrote: > Yes, I think somewhere I read that a server was down... > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 12:34:37 Art Alexion wrote: >> That worked. That was the way I enabled it a year ago and the way I >> re-enabled it when I upgraged gutsy->hardy, but it had stopped working. >> Maybe they changed the hostname or folder? >> >> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:53:29 am Glenn R Williams wrote: >>> Yesterday I tried: >>> >>> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O >>> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list >>> >>> and this worked. It is explained the Medibuntu website: >>> >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:44:39 Art Alexion wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 2:26:18 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: >>>>> have you performed >>>>> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo >>>>> apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update >>>> Yeah. It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. It >>>> is not an apt-key error, it is a 404 (file not found} error. I'm >>>> wondering why there isn't an official announcement nor any chatter to >>>> be found via google on this. > At the moment I get: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems this had happened before... I vaguely remember so dont bash me if it is wrong. Any way to correct that, I already tried reinstalling medibuntu-keyring package? From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 08:10:03 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:10:03 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 kde-look widgets/plasmoids In-Reply-To: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> References: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <20080730081003.GA8841@slug.azmolan> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:28, Paul Lemmons wrote: > I am poking at KDE4.1 and trying to locate the things most dear to me > from kde 3.5. One of those things is the QuickLaunch panel. I found what > looks to be a replacement on the kde-look site. > > I got to the kde-look site by clicking on the "Install New Widgets" at > the bottom of the "Add Widgets" dialog. However, when I installed the > desired widget it failed to show up in the "Add Widgets" dialog. Had the same issues. What seems to be the problem is that most widgets on kde-look.org are compiled against 4.0.x versions of libplasma - so until it catches up compiling yourself seems to be the only way for now. At least that worked for me like a charm. -- Gordon. From aikurn at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 07:59:23 2008 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:59:23 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 kde-look widgets/plasmoids In-Reply-To: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> References: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> Message-ID: 2008/7/30 Paul Lemmons : > I got to the kde-look site by clicking on the "Install New Widgets" at > the bottom of the "Add Widgets" dialog. However, when I installed the > desired widget it failed to show up in the "Add Widgets" dialog. I tried > several widgets and all behave the same way. When I go back to the > "Install New Widgets" dialog I can see that my selections are installed. > > Am I missing something obvious? Is there some voodoo you must dootoo the > Add Widget dialog to get the new widgets to show up in the list? Hi Paul, To install new widgets/plasmoids you will have to compile them from source or wait until someone packages them. The "Install New Widgets" screen is a work in progress, and IIRC you can only install Apple Dashboard widgets or Superkaramba applets from it at the moment. -- Leticia Hernández From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 10:57:26 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:57:26 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail Message-ID: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> I have a feeling this might have been discussed before but here goes: I run both Kontact/Kmail and Thunderbird as mail clients, the reason being that I use Kontact for all my business and also personal emailing. Thunderbird I use for mailing-lists such as this. For me this works better than "disturbing" my business with loads of mail that might or might not be interesting to what I am doing at the moment. It is also a support-issue, I have users that use one or the other. So far so good. Now I have joined a mailinglist that has got to do with trading mainly (bartering you might say) and I get flooded with mails where maybe 1 of 10 is interesting. I dont want to go webmail for it since I want to save the interesting ones and not always have to be online when I go through downloaded mails. So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. I did install Clawmail and I dont like it one bit but am using it nevertheless. I tried Mailody but it does not seem to store retrieved mails offline so is useless to me. Anyone has ideas of how to achieve this. And please do not suggest Mutt or other cli - clients, I am far too gui-oriented. Regards, Sinclair From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Wed Jul 30 11:19:55 2008 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:19:55 +0100 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48904E5B.7000405@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> > So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or > Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. I did > install Clawmail and I dont like it one bit but am using it > nevertheless. I tried Mailody but it does not seem to store retrieved > mails offline so is useless to me. > > Anyone has ideas of how to achieve this. And please do not suggest Mutt > or other cli - clients, I am far too gui-oriented. Hmm. Why not instead of trying to run multiple instances of the same application with different settings, which I suspect is not easy, instead filter your email into different folders. In this way you can simply filter all email from your mailing lists into different folders, and thus not clog up your main inbox. Just click on tools -> message filters in TB cheers Chris From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 11:35:21 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:35:21 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <48904E5B.7000405@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <48904E5B.7000405@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <489051F9.2030609@gmail.com> Chris Jones wrote: >> So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or >> Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. I did >> install Clawmail and I dont like it one bit but am using it >> nevertheless. I tried Mailody but it does not seem to store retrieved >> mails offline so is useless to me. >> >> Anyone has ideas of how to achieve this. And please do not suggest Mutt >> or other cli - clients, I am far too gui-oriented. > > Hmm. Why not instead of trying to run multiple instances of the same > application with different settings, which I suspect is not easy, > instead filter your email into different folders. In this way you can > simply filter all email from your mailing lists into different folders, > and thus not clog up your main inbox. > > Just click on tools -> message filters in TB > Thanks, that can easily be done in both Kontact and TB. Problem is hundreds of mail, sometimes from dial-up, and I get hooked reading them - cause that is how I am... so it is more ME than the mailclients that is not able to filter ;-) From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 11:59:38 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:59:38 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:57, O. Sinclair wrote: [...] > So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or > Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. [...] Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? -- Gordon. From info at alvin.be Wed Jul 30 11:57:21 2008 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:57:21 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <200807301357.21845.info@alvin.be> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 13:59:38 Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > > [...] > > > So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or > > Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. > > [...] > > Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing > Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? I think it's a bit more. He wants to run different profiles at the same time. Take a look at the following link: [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments_-_Thunderbird] Apparently it can be done with -profile "path" There's also an explanation of why you shouldn't run multiple copies of Thunderbird with the same profile and how you can do it anyway. -- Alvin From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Wed Jul 30 11:59:55 2008 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:59:55 +0100 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <489051F9.2030609@gmail.com> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <48904E5B.7000405@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> <489051F9.2030609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <489057BB.7020107@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> > Thanks, that can easily be done in both Kontact and TB. Problem is > hundreds of mail, sometimes from dial-up, and I get hooked reading them > - cause that is how I am... so it is more ME than the mailclients that > is not able to filter ;-) I see ;) In which case you could set up your list accounts to not be downloaded automatically, only when you explicitly request them. Would that be enough to prevent you getting sucked in to reading them ? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 12:03:19 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:03:19 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <48905887.1080406@gmail.com> Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > > [...] >> So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or >> Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. > [...] > > Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing > Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? it is likely me who is unaware of the option - how do you do that? From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 12:20:22 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:20:22 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <200807301357.21845.info@alvin.be> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> <200807301357.21845.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <20080730122022.GA8895@slug.azmolan> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:57, Alvin wrote: > I think it's a bit more. He wants to run different profiles at the same time. > Take a look at the following link: > [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments_-_Thunderbird] > > Apparently it can be done with -profile "path" > There's also an explanation of why you shouldn't run multiple copies of > Thunderbird with the same profile and how you can do it anyway. Oh, missed that. Well... *cough* mutt with different .muttrcs *cough* :) -- Gordon. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 12:09:50 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09:50 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <48905A0E.3050101@gmail.com> Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > > [...] >> So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or >> Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. > [...] > > Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing > Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? it is likely me who is unaware of the option - how do you do that? From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 12:25:40 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:25:40 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <48905A0E.3050101@gmail.com> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> <48905A0E.3050101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080730122540.GB8895@slug.azmolan> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09, O. Sinclair wrote: > > Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing > > Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? > it is likely me who is unaware of the option - how do you do that? For the Mozilla family: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager For KMail it should be under Settings/Configure Profiles. Got no experience with KMail though. -- Gordon. From suse-linux at rwz.de Wed Jul 30 12:27:49 2008 From: suse-linux at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:27:49 +0200 Subject: No Flash in Firefox 3 but in seamonkey Message-ID: <20080730142749.4c1a286b.suse-linux@rwz.de> Hi list, I've updated my Firefox from 2x to 3.0.1. But Flash do not work for me. The plugin is installed as flashplugin-alternative.so in [..]firefox-addons/plugins and [..]firefox/plugins links to that. Also seamonkeys plugindirectory is linked to firefox-addons/plugins and in seamonkey flash works fine. I've googled all known flashproblem-solutions but nothing worked for so far :-( -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 30 13:24:09 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24:09 -0300 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1733970.THpayrOP6v@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > So I am looking for a way to run a second instance of Thunderbird or > Kmail that is totally separate and "unaware" of the "main" ones. While I can't quite see the value - I run KMail connected to my IMAP servers, and personal mail is quite separate from corporate mail, yet easy to move between IMAP folders for either one - how about setting up a new Linux user and running the mail client with kdesudo? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 30 13:20:24 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:20:24 -0300 Subject: medibuntu archives down? References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291144.44821.art.alexion@verizon.net> <2136099.m3KzrEoKJ5@cedar.serverforest.com> <200807291541.52757.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1540038.FR7FcqC0Q0@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 1:43:49 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >>> It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. >> >> It didn't.  A couple of months back I went a week without being able to >> reach Medibuntu > > You know that's not what I meant. Well, know I didn't... > Of course servers go down occasionally > and come back up, but I didn't have to reconfigure the sources.list to get > it to work again when they were offline for short bits before. And I didn't have to reconfigure anything this week. This week's outage seemed to me exactly the same as previous ones. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Jul 30 13:26:52 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:26:52 -0300 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> <48905A0E.3050101@gmail.com> <20080730122540.GB8895@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <1603771.Pn9EBGaNdr@cedar.serverforest.com> Gordon Schulz wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> > Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing >> > Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? >> it is likely me who is unaware of the option - how do you do that? > For the Mozilla family: > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager > > For KMail it should be under Settings/Configure Profiles. Got no > experience with KMail though. "Profiles" in KMail didn't actually seem to be the same thing as in T-bird - I thought it was supposed to setup different views, not different accounts (but I basically dismissed it when I didn't see that it could do anything for me, so I might have missed something glaringly obvious :-) ) -- derek From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 14:37:50 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:37:50 -0600 Subject: Q: 4.1 and non-interference with 3.5.9? In-Reply-To: <073020080213.20148.488FCE43000B0ABB00004EB42200748184CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <073020080213.20148.488FCE43000B0ABB00004EB42200748184CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48907CBE.1060606@gmail.com> pkaplan1 at comcast.net said the following at 07/29/2008 08:13 PM : > So here's my take after playing around with beta, rc1 and today, the > final release... > > Your data is probably completely safe. I would say less about your > configuration, but that can probably be managed by making a backup of > ~/.kde before playing around with kde4. > > The biggest problem I've run into is that if I use the classic K menu in > 4.1, when it crashes (which it is still prone to do), it will mess up > the K menu in 3.5.9 for that user. > > To go a bit OT...The other thing I have noticed is that a number of > system tray applets (smb4k, knetload, networkmanager, > guidance-power-manager) will only load to the 4.1 tray if 3.5.9 is > running (run 4.1 as the same user under a different X session). These > do not load if 3.5.9 isn't running. > > I agree with the initial reviews that 4.1 is more than usable, but it > still isn't at the level of 3.5.9 and the small speed increase is not a > sufficiently compelling reason to switch. Thank you very much for that useful set of comments. Even though I'm rapidly reaching the point where the itch to try KDE 4.x is demanding to be scratched, I think your comments have convinced me to wait, perhaps until Kubuntu 8.10. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Jul 30 14:55:35 2008 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:55:35 -0400 Subject: medibuntu archives down? In-Reply-To: <1540038.FR7FcqC0Q0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200807281009.44310.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200807291541.52757.art.alexion@verizon.net> <1540038.FR7FcqC0Q0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200807301055.41006.art.alexion@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 July 2008 9:20:24 am Derek Broughton wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 1:43:49 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > >>> It worked for close to a year before it stopped this week. > >> > >> It didn't.  A couple of months back I went a week without being able to > >> reach Medibuntu > > > > You know that's not what I meant. > > Well, know I didn't... > > > Of course servers go down occasionally > > and come back up, but I didn't have to reconfigure the sources.list to > > get it to work again when they were offline for short bits before. > > And I didn't have to reconfigure anything this week. This week's outage > seemed to me exactly the same as previous ones. Perhaps it was a coincidence that I got them back by reinstalling the sources.list entries. That, of course, was the reason for my initial post. I wanted to know if they were down, or a problem on my end. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBSJCA7ELG/oYII0YuAQLEiAQAgM84stsg92aEis8fP6Wh+S793KFzgiLj Ys+EL4O3UbuBWEyO5vYzbrDY+WCROweS3FC2r0aNMwWpelOBHR+8CES7oEB0T7vL YXVYojmIpf6jCcufL2YgMIXUdYFsVEhj9Te2t8M9AyBaiwYx5vHtuYtcJGZUtY4l q7CTtcBhkYg= =XZQ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jjesse at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 15:39:59 2008 From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:39:59 -0400 Subject: question on mounting drives in intrepid Message-ID: I have a FAT32 drive and an NTFS drive on my dual booting box. I would like to use the FAT32 drive (vfat) to be able to access data from both my Vista boot and my Kubuntu Intrepid boot. The new device notifier shows both partitions are there and when i click on open in Dolphin nothing happens. Any help on this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 16:32:56 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:32:56 +0000 Subject: Problem saving window locations/session management Message-ID: <073020081632.9502.489097B80004B84B0000251E2200762194CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> I'm running mainly kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu 8.0.4. After installing kde 4.1 (along side 3.5.9 with kubuntu debs), 3.5.9 fails to restore windows to the desktop they were originally on when a new session is started...all windows re-open on desktop 1 the next time 3.5.9 starts. Because this happened on two different machines, I'm pretty sure it's a real problem (I filed a bug a few weeks back...no response), but it will be a bear to trace given the large number of packages that were installed w/ kde 4.1. Not sure if it's a kde problem or a kubuntu package problem. However my questions are: 1. Where does kde 3.5.9 save information about window locations when one leaves a session? 2. What program writes that file? 3. What program reads that file? Paul From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 19:02:32 2008 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:02:32 -0400 Subject: ATI, FGLRX,s-video, VGA-out In-Reply-To: <200807292245.55560.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <200807290644.48204.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <200807292245.55560.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <4890BAC8.1090909@gmail.com> Larry Hartman said the following on 07/30/2008 01:45 AM: > Did I ever say on the list how horrible the ATI X200M is? > > Larry > That's about the only reason I've kept M$ on it's own partition. There's tv out and wifi that I sometimes need and can't get working dependably in linux. FWIW, fglrx does a great job on recognizing tv and external monitors on my X1400, but it's taken more than a year to get it working. It's a shame they've never extended it back to your earlier hardware. Did you try the "ati" (aka "radeon") open source driver? There's a patch from the gatos.sourceforge.net to get tv working on certain older cards (is X200M the same as Radeon200?). I don't know if it's your particular card though. There's also a howto patch and config in the ubuntuforums (again, not sure if it's your card). The ati dev's have tv out on their wish list (no time line and lot's of higher priority stuff ahead of it). regards, From paul at lemmons.name Wed Jul 30 21:52:42 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:52:42 -0700 Subject: KDE 4.1 kde-look widgets/plasmoids In-Reply-To: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> References: <488F999F.3040308@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4890E2AA.3080100@lemmons.name> Thanks to all that replied! I will just be patient and wait fro the kde-look site to catch up or compile those that are near and dear to me. -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 08:30:05 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:30:05 +0200 Subject: separate instances of Thunderbird or Kmail In-Reply-To: <1603771.Pn9EBGaNdr@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <48904916.9070602@gmail.com> <20080730115938.GB8841@slug.azmolan> <48905A0E.3050101@gmail.com> <20080730122540.GB8895@slug.azmolan> <1603771.Pn9EBGaNdr@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4891780D.9070104@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Gordon Schulz wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:09, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>>> Am I missing an obvious point here or isn't that easily done changing >>>> Profiles in Thunderbird and/or KMail? >>> it is likely me who is unaware of the option - how do you do that? >> For the Mozilla family: >> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager >> >> For KMail it should be under Settings/Configure Profiles. Got no >> experience with KMail though. > > "Profiles" in KMail didn't actually seem to be the same thing as in T-bird - > I thought it was supposed to setup different views, not different accounts > (but I basically dismissed it when I didn't see that it could do anything > for me, so I might have missed something glaringly obvious :-) ) At the end of the day I downloaded Seamonkey Mail + Browser. Set Seamonkey to start with Mail rather than browser. Then it is like working with Thunderbird really and I think this is it. Strange to find that this version actually chews less memory/cpu than "real Thunderbird". And hat sorted my problem that admittedly is more psychological than logical :-D Sinclair From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Thu Jul 31 11:08:07 2008 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:08:07 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey Message-ID: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Hi list, I'm using firefox and seamonkey as internetbrowsers. My flashplugin runs under seamonkey but not with firefox. What can I do to make both browsers working with flashplugin ? -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 12:11:33 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:11:33 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Message-ID: <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:08, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > I'm using firefox and seamonkey as internetbrowsers. My flashplugin > runs under seamonkey but not with firefox. What can I do to make both > browsers working with flashplugin ? Does Firefox see the plugin (aboout:plugins)? -- Gordon. From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Thu Jul 31 13:16:36 2008 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:16:36 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> > > I'm using firefox and seamonkey as internetbrowsers. My flashplugin > > runs under seamonkey but not with firefox. What can I do to make both > > browsers working with flashplugin ? > > Does Firefox see the plugin (about:plugins)? > Yes, Shockwave-Flash libflash-mozplugin.so and Shockwave-Flash libflashplayer.so Seamonkey showes me the same output and works on youtube.com and so on. -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Thu Jul 31 13:16:54 2008 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:16:54 -0700 Subject: ATI, FGLRX,s-video, VGA-out In-Reply-To: <4890BAC8.1090909@gmail.com> References: <200807281702.03454.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <200807292245.55560.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <4890BAC8.1090909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807310616.54272.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 12:02:32 pm Paul S wrote: > Larry Hartman said the following on 07/30/2008 01:45 AM: > > Did I ever say on the list how horrible the ATI X200M is? > > > > Larry > > That's about the only reason I've kept M$ on it's own partition. > There's tv out and wifi that I sometimes need and can't get working > dependably in linux. FWIW, fglrx does a great job on recognizing tv and > external monitors on my X1400, but it's taken more than a year to get it > working. It's a shame they've never extended it back to your earlier > hardware. This is a case of regression...tv-out was working just fine less than six months ago. X200M is on the list of hardware supported. I do not wish to go back to the older drivers. > Did you try the "ati" (aka "radeon") open source driver? There's a > patch from the gatos.sourceforge.net to get tv working on certain older > cards (is X200M the same as Radeon200?). I don't know if it's your > particular card though. There's also a howto patch and config in the > ubuntuforums (again, not sure if it's your card). if they do not have tv-out or vga-out working I do not see much point in it. > The ati dev's have tv out on their wish list (no time line and lot's of > higher priority stuff ahead of it). > > regards, From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:57:25 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:57:25 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Message-ID: <20080731135725.GA9373@slug.azmolan> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:16, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > Shockwave-Flash > libflash-mozplugin.so > > and > Shockwave-Flash > libflashplayer.so That explains. You have both the GPL'd libflash and the propietary Adobe plugin installed - seems like Seamonkey is using the Adobe one and works while Firefox prefers the libflash one which doesn't play too well with most sites. apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin should solve your problem. -- Gordon. From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Thu Jul 31 13:59:54 2008 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:59:54 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731135725.GA9373@slug.azmolan> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731135725.GA9373@slug.azmolan> Message-ID: <20080731155954.02192430.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> > > Shockwave-Flash > > libflash-mozplugin.so > > > > and > > Shockwave-Flash > > libflashplayer.so > That explains. You have both the GPL'd libflash and the propietary Adobe > plugin installed - seems like Seamonkey is using the Adobe one and works > while Firefox prefers the libflash one which doesn't play too well with > most sites. apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin should solve your problem. > Hi sorry - does not work. Firefox showes no swf-Files. about:plugins showes me the libflashplayer.so in version 9.9r124 - the same under seamonkey, but there it works fine :-( -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:21:13 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:21:13 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731155954.02192430.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731135725.GA9373@slug.azmolan> <20080731155954.02192430.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Message-ID: <20080731142113.GB9373@slug.azmolan> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:59, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > sorry - does not work. Firefox showes no swf-Files. about:plugins showes > me the libflashplayer.so in version 9.9r124 - the same under seamonkey, > but there it works fine :-( That's indeed weird. Does about:plugins show the plugin as enabled? What does Firefox show when you access a site including flash? Like nothing, a black box or something? Tried re-installing flashplugin-nonfree? -- Gordon. From gordon.schulz at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:23:26 2008 From: gordon.schulz at gmail.com (Gordon Schulz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:23:26 +0200 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731155954.02192430.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731121133.GA9327@slug.azmolan> <20080731151636.72a4ef76.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> <20080731135725.GA9373@slug.azmolan> <20080731155954.02192430.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Message-ID: <20080731142326.GC9373@slug.azmolan> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:59, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > sorry - does not work. Firefox showes no swf-Files. about:plugins showes > me the libflashplayer.so in version 9.9r124 - the same under seamonkey, > but there it works fine :-( Just another guess - there is no Adblock or NoScript blocking Flash in your Firefox installation? -- Gordon. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 14:27:25 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:25 +0000 Subject: interaction of kde3 and kde4 configurations Message-ID: <073120081427.19838.4891CBCD0002C94600004D7E2207020953CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> After installing kde4.1 on kubuntu 8.04 that had kde 3.5.9 already installed I lost sound under 3.5.9. (My guess is that this occurred after the first time I launched 4.1.) After much searching I discovered that the problem lay in kde4.1 kmix. Apparently it is muted by default on installation (no idea why) and even though 3.5.9 kmix is not muted, there is no sound in any environment. After unmuting in 4.1, sound was restored. This leads to my real question/problem. I also noticed that after 4.1 was installed, session management on 3.5.9 is flaky. Windows don't appear on the correct desktop and sometimes are in the wrong position as well. I checked to make sure that session management is enabled in both 3.5.9 and 4.1. Has anyone else seen this windowing behavior? Is there a solution? Paul From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jul 31 14:59:33 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:59:33 -0400 Subject: Flashplugin for Firefox and Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> References: <20080731130807.78ee0a96.ubuntu-ml@rwz.de> Message-ID: <200807311059.33499.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 31 July 2008, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm using firefox and seamonkey as internetbrowsers. My flashplugin > runs under seamonkey but not with firefox. What can I do to make both > browsers working with flashplugin ? Wow.... a 3 line question and a * 41 * line signature. I think that's a new record. From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Thu Jul 31 21:00:43 2008 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:00:43 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> References: <488EC817.3010303@telenet.be> Message-ID: Hi Alain, hi all, On 29/07/2008, Alain Muls wrote: > Hi kubuntu-users > > From time to time, in the evening, I try out the KDE4.1 on Hardy Heron for > which I have a separate partition set up. I find the look and feel (mostly) > very nice and the KDE applications respond faster (eg. startup time) than in > the v3.5 versions I daily use. > > However, the 4.1 version is by far not as stable as I wanted and does not > perform the stuff promised in reviews of this new version. We are back on the same subject again as it seems :) KDE 4.0 was a release for developers only, so it was probably too buggy for the average user, but if someone wants to try it he should not complain... but file bugs and help to make it better. As of KDE 4.1, this release is meant for experienced users who are not afraid of occasional glitches, bugs and sometimes even freezes and crashes in the various packages. As KDE 4.1 comes with a lot of software in various development stages, one should not expect flawless runs for quite a few of them. So if you expect a stable and flawless system, you should definitely NOT run KDE 4.1. If you decide to give it a try, of course it would be nice to report the occasional bugs you run across, but this list is definitely not the right platform for that, you should use http://bugs.kde.org instead. Now if you base your expectations on promises made by reviewers, you should be aware that these can vary depending on platform, distribution and even moment of the day, as there is quite some development going on, minute by minute. A better source for what to expect with KDE 4.1 is the official release note from kde here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ and the very fine page in the KDE techbase here: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Is_KDE_4.1_for_you%3F. Read also this blog entry here: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/kde-41-a-kde-that-suits-you/, on the same subject. I would also suggest you read http://planetkde.org on a regular basis to follow what's going on in the KDE world, especially regarding progress of KDE 4.x. Greets Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From manuel at mclure.org Thu Jul 31 22:16:22 2008 From: manuel at mclure.org (Manuel McLure) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:16:22 -0700 Subject: audiocd:/ kioslave and KDE 4.1 Message-ID: <5b2fd9c60807311516i61cb58a6n2500e3dbc02b4d77@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone had success using the audiocd:/ kioslave on KDE 4.1? When I use it, I see the tracks of the CD in the root directory as .wav files, and I see Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, MP3 and other subdirectories, but if I open one of the subdirectories (except for Full Disc) it's empty. Amarok (using the 3.5 kioslave) sees the MP3/Ogg files just fine. Just wondering if I'm missing something obvious, or if I should report this as a bug. This works fine on 3.5. From zabbarob at googlemail.com Thu Jul 31 22:48:27 2008 From: zabbarob at googlemail.com (Robert Costa) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:48:27 +0200 Subject: audiocd:/ kioslave and KDE 4.1 In-Reply-To: <5b2fd9c60807311516i61cb58a6n2500e3dbc02b4d77@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2fd9c60807311516i61cb58a6n2500e3dbc02b4d77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2a131af80807311548l1b238c18u8943748a38576e51@mail.gmail.com> 2008/8/1 Manuel McLure : > Has anyone had success using the audiocd:/ kioslave on KDE 4.1? When I > use it, I see the tracks of the CD in the root directory as .wav > files, and I see Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, MP3 and other subdirectories, but > if I open one of the subdirectories (except for Full Disc) it's empty. > Amarok (using the 3.5 kioslave) sees the MP3/Ogg files just fine. Just > wondering if I'm missing something obvious, or if I should report this > as a bug. This works fine on 3.5. You're not alone. I get the same behavior here. Typing "audiocd:/" into Dolphin's location text field gives me some directories without entries and the wav files in the main dir. The subdirs are: audiocd:/CDA audiocd:/FLAC audiocd:/Full CD audiocd:/Information audiocd:/MP3 audiocd:/Ogg Vorbis Actually "CDA", "FLAC", "MP3" and "Ogg Vorbis" are empty; "Full CD" contains 5 items (Full CD.cda, -.flac, -.mp3, -ogg, .-wav); "Information" contains one file "CDDB Information.txt", but clicking on it results in an error message "The file or folder /Information/CDDB Information.txt does not exist.". Dragging and dropping the files in "Full CD" seems to work, althoug I didn't let the copy process run till its end. Dragging the "CDDB Information.txt" also works and produces a correct file, for what I can see - still as written above clicking the file results in an error message. With KDE 3.x I had no problem with the audiocd:/ kioslave in Konqueror and Dolphin (under kubuntu 7.10), but I have not tested it's behaviour with those programs now. Anyhow - it's working with Amarok, so I suppose the KDE 3.5 kioslave is still working here, too. Cya, Robert.