From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 00:38:39 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:38:39 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <49332316.3040409@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <49331CDC.3060303@sbcglobal.net> <49332316.3040409@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4933320F.6020502@sbcglobal.net> Paul Rumelhart wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> The only place I found reference to zoom was under the Uncateforized >> category at the bottom of the General Options page. It did not provide >> a zoom value. Under Advanced Search, I found a Window Depth option; it >> is currently at 0.3000. Under settings>Plugin>Enhanced Zoom Desktop, I >> tried to change it from 1.0100 to 0.5068, however when I tried the box, >> it returned to the 1.0100 setting. I think I clicked on every option >> looking for a zoom value. I must be on a wrong page. >> >> > > I should have been more clear. Sorry about that. To see the cube > itself, make sure "Desktop Cube" is checked. It's under the heading > "Desktop" on the right side of the window. I had already checked that. No dialog box came up. > This may bring up a dialog > box letting you know that the default desktop effect is incompatible > with it. This is OK, you can always go back to the defaults. > > Then make sure the "Rotate Cube" effect is checked. This also in the > "Desktop" section. I had already checked that too. > This will allow you to turn the cube faces. The > Zoom parameter I was talking about is in the Rotate Cube settings, so > click on the "Rotate Cube" words. This should bring up a page with two > tabs ("General" and "Bindings"). Under "General" should be a slider > called "Zoom". Set this to around 0.5 to get an idea what I'm talking > about. You may want a different value, depending. > You have me laughing again. I get so happy, I can't control it. I thought I read every option. I don't know how I missed it. This is so fun. > >>> I >>> remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I >>> wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), >>> which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a >>> great-looking effect. >>> >>> >>> >> Can't seem to find this option. >> >> > > In my system, it's under Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, on the right > hand side under "Effects" in the right-hand column. I may have > installed extra compiz effects, though. I'm not sure. > This is so fun. I found it. > >>> I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the >>> wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more >>> transparent. >>> >>> >> This works. Looks great. I hope my memory can retain this soon. >> >> >>> That way, if my window is blocking another window and I >>> need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so >>> I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't >>> remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. >>> >>> >>> >> Apparently it is default. >> >> >>> I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small >>> preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. >>> There is a heading Taskbar; I have checked 'Taskbar Shows Only Windows of Current Viewport' and Thumbnails Always on Top', is that enabling them? >>> >>> >> I chose 'Window Previows' however don't see a change with mouse over. >> Perhaps it will engage on boot up. Maybe there is something else I have >> to do too, to get this affect. This is just great. >> >> > > I'm probably not describing this well. I wasn't sure how to put it into > words. I think you mentioned in one of your posts that your K-menu is > at the top of your screen. When you open a window (such as by launching > a browser or some other application) an icon probably appears at the top > of your screen in that gray bar with the application icon and the name > of the application. It may be at the bottom of your screen, it depends > on how you've set things up. When you put your mouse over the top of > one of these little areas, you should see a picture of the application > pop up above or below it. > Something strange has happened again. The menu bar at the top of a window has diminished and I can no longer drag a window again. Also, when I clicked on the back button on the Compiz window, it left the screen. I am going to wait for your reply before I do anything. When I lose, Drag and Drop, I panic a bit. I use that all the time. Thanks friend, I will wait for your answer to this problem. > >>> >>> This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm >>> not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a >>> snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a >>> video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the >>> preview window. >>> >>> I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't >>> actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows >>> enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just >>> looks nice. >>> >>> >>> >> I like wobbly windows too. I also thing aesthetics are as good a reason >> as anything for using features. It is healthy for the right brain. I >> am what is called a fine-artist by trade, retired now, but aesthetics >> are my life. >> >> If it isn't too much trouble to help me get the features to work that >> didn't seem to work for me, I would appreciate it. Having help while >> learning features is very instructional for me. I am 100% right brain >> still. Logical thinking is still laborous. That is where my computer >> life is. And thanks again so much, for your time and consideration. >> >> By the way, if I screw up settings somehow and want to return to some >> type of default, is that possible without reinstalling. There are so >> many technical choices, I can see myself getting confused and not being >> able to backtrack to correct the problems I may create? >> >> > > Most of the individual settings have a button that will let you go back > to defaults. If you want to go clear back, you can just kill compiz by > running "killall compiz.real" at the command-line. > > Paul > > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 00:41:44 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:41:44 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <493324C9.7040902@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <49331F18.7080007@sbcglobal.net> <493324C9.7040902@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <493332C8.9030703@sbcglobal.net> Paul Rumelhart wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Paul Rumelhart wrote: >> >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Paul, >>>> >>>> You got me laughing, I am so happy. I have eight now. Are you actually >>>> seeing an octagon? I just seem to be rotating the desktop as a whole. >>>> This isn't just fun, it is totally useful. I am always working with >>>> several pages on the desktop. Now I can separate projects. What a >>>> wonderful tool. This is just great. >>>> >>>> I have never played with Compiz yet. I have been too busy learning >>>> things that are a priority. It will be fun when I can take the time. >>>> Do you use any other features of Compiz that are so useful? >>>> >>>> Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Steven, >>> >>> I have it set so that I can press both the left and right mouse buttons >>> when my cursor is over the desktop, and it shows me an eight-sided >>> "cube" with one desktop on each side. Technically, I guess it's >>> ten-sided because you have the two end caps. I think you can also press >>> Ctrl and Alt and the left mouse button to do this. I remember I had to >>> set the zoom value to get the desktop "cube" to fall back from the >>> screen so I could see it better. Under Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings > Rotate Cube > General I have my zoom set at 0.5068. I >>> remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I >>> wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), >>> which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a >>> great-looking effect. >>> >>> I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the >>> wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more >>> transparent. That way, if my window is blocking another window and I >>> need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so >>> I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't >>> remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. >>> >>> I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small >>> preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. >>> This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm >>> not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a >>> snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a >>> video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the >>> preview window. >>> >>> I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't >>> actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows >>> enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just >>> looks nice. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I found it Paul; it was the Expo effect. I unchecked it and the ability >> to drag and drop returned. I can't remember why I checked that option. >> Did you suggest it? What is supposed to happen? Thanks again. This is >> sure interesting. >> >> Steven >> >> >> > Steven, > > If that's the case, then you can probably ignore my email telling you to > run "emerald" at the command line. When you run compiz, do you have red > borders on your windows that are slightly transparent? If so, then you > are running the emerald window manager. The default is probably KWin or > Metacity if not. A window manager is the application responsible for > putting the title bar on windows, showing the maximize and minimize > buttons, and allowing you to resize the window. Linux is all about > choice, so of course there are multiple applications you can run to do > this. Compiz usually runs the emerald window manager, which has been > designed to run with compiz because compiz allows it to do the tricks > with transparency and whatnot. So when you said you had no border > around your windows, I assumed that emerald had died, leaving you with > no active window manager. > > Paul > > > I think that this is the case. How do I make Emerals take priority or remove or inactivate the unwanted manager. This is new material for me. I really did not understand the controlling function of the manager. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 00:55:01 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:55:01 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <493335E5.8060202@sbcglobal.net> Paul Rumelhart wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> You got me laughing, I am so happy. I have eight now. Are you actually >> seeing an octagon? I just seem to be rotating the desktop as a whole. >> This isn't just fun, it is totally useful. I am always working with >> several pages on the desktop. Now I can separate projects. What a >> wonderful tool. This is just great. >> >> I have never played with Compiz yet. I have been too busy learning >> things that are a priority. It will be fun when I can take the time. >> Do you use any other features of Compiz that are so useful? >> >> Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, >> >> Steven >> >> > Steven, > > I have it set so that I can press both the left and right mouse buttons > when my cursor is over the desktop, and it shows me an eight-sided > "cube" with one desktop on each side. Technically, I guess it's > ten-sided because you have the two end caps. I think you can also press > Ctrl and Alt and the left mouse button to do this. I remember I had to > set the zoom value to get the desktop "cube" to fall back from the > screen so I could see it better. Under Advanced Desktop Effects > Settings > Rotate Cube > General I have my zoom set at 0.5068. I > remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I > wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), > which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a > great-looking effect. > > I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the > wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more > transparent. That way, if my window is blocking another window and I > need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so > I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't > remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. > > I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects > Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small > preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. > This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm > not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a > snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a > video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the > preview window. > > I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't > actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows > enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just > looks nice. > > Paul > > > Paul, I just typed in --replace and it started to work again. Additionally lots of window dressing has been included. I am laughing again. This is the best experimentation experience I have had so far. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 01:04:11 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:04:11 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4933380B.3020704@sbcglobal.net> Dear Paul, When I rotate the middle wheel on the mouse and the cube changes, it dips and shows the rotation then fills the desktop again. Is that what the cube is supposed to look like. I had a vision of a transparent octagon that stayed within the borders of the desktop. Since I have a 22" screen, I anticipated seeing an octagon that was farther from the left and right of the screen than the top and bottom. It doesn't really make a difference, the effects are wonderful, it is just when I see pictures of a cube in literature about such things, it always appears as smaller than the desktop. Thanks! Steven > > > From godshatter at yahoo.com Mon Dec 1 01:09:35 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:09:35 -0800 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <493335E5.8060202@sbcglobal.net> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <493335E5.8060202@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4933394F.6070001@yahoo.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Paul Rumelhart wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Paul, >>> >>> You got me laughing, I am so happy. I have eight now. Are you actually >>> seeing an octagon? I just seem to be rotating the desktop as a whole. >>> This isn't just fun, it is totally useful. I am always working with >>> several pages on the desktop. Now I can separate projects. What a >>> wonderful tool. This is just great. >>> >>> I have never played with Compiz yet. I have been too busy learning >>> things that are a priority. It will be fun when I can take the time. >>> Do you use any other features of Compiz that are so useful? >>> >>> Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, >>> >>> Steven >>> >>> >>> >> Steven, >> >> I have it set so that I can press both the left and right mouse buttons >> when my cursor is over the desktop, and it shows me an eight-sided >> "cube" with one desktop on each side. Technically, I guess it's >> ten-sided because you have the two end caps. I think you can also press >> Ctrl and Alt and the left mouse button to do this. I remember I had to >> set the zoom value to get the desktop "cube" to fall back from the >> screen so I could see it better. Under Advanced Desktop Effects >> Settings > Rotate Cube > General I have my zoom set at 0.5068. I >> remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I >> wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), >> which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a >> great-looking effect. >> >> I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the >> wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more >> transparent. That way, if my window is blocking another window and I >> need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so >> I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't >> remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. >> >> I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects >> Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small >> preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. >> This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm >> not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a >> snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a >> video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the >> preview window. >> >> I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't >> actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows >> enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just >> looks nice. >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> > Paul, > > I just typed in --replace and it started to work again. Additionally > lots of window dressing has been included. I am laughing again. This > is the best experimentation experience I have had so far. > > Steven > I forgot about the --replace option. Sorry about that. I'm glad it's working. The compiz team stills seems to be working through some bugs, but the progress they've made is wonderful. It sounds like you weren't running emerald before, or you would have seen the extra window dressing earlier. Paul From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 1 01:18:15 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:18:15 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <493313AD.6070902@sbcglobal.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811301019.13512.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <493313AD.6070902@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200811302018.15497.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 30 November 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > I cut and pasted your Defaults        timestamp_timeout=-1 at the end of > the  comments.  I did not type in a #; was that a mistake? No From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 01:22:24 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:22:24 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <4933394F.6070001@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <493335E5.8060202@sbcglobal.net> <4933394F.6070001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49333C50.5070406@sbcglobal.net> Paul Rumelhart wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Paul Rumelhart wrote: >> >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Paul, >>>> >>>> You got me laughing, I am so happy. I have eight now. Are you actually >>>> seeing an octagon? I just seem to be rotating the desktop as a whole. >>>> This isn't just fun, it is totally useful. I am always working with >>>> several pages on the desktop. Now I can separate projects. What a >>>> wonderful tool. This is just great. >>>> >>>> I have never played with Compiz yet. I have been too busy learning >>>> things that are a priority. It will be fun when I can take the time. >>>> Do you use any other features of Compiz that are so useful? >>>> >>>> Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Steven, >>> >>> I have it set so that I can press both the left and right mouse buttons >>> when my cursor is over the desktop, and it shows me an eight-sided >>> "cube" with one desktop on each side. Technically, I guess it's >>> ten-sided because you have the two end caps. I think you can also press >>> Ctrl and Alt and the left mouse button to do this. I remember I had to >>> set the zoom value to get the desktop "cube" to fall back from the >>> screen so I could see it better. Under Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings > Rotate Cube > General I have my zoom set at 0.5068. I >>> remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I >>> wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), >>> which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a >>> great-looking effect. >>> >>> I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the >>> wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more >>> transparent. That way, if my window is blocking another window and I >>> need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so >>> I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't >>> remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. >>> >>> I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small >>> preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. >>> This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm >>> not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a >>> snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a >>> video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the >>> preview window. >>> >>> I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't >>> actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows >>> enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just >>> looks nice. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Paul, >> >> I just typed in --replace and it started to work again. Additionally >> lots of window dressing has been included. I am laughing again. This >> is the best experimentation experience I have had so far. >> >> Steven >> >> > > I forgot about the --replace option. Sorry about that. I'm glad it's > working. The compiz team stills seems to be working through some bugs, > but the progress they've made is wonderful. It sounds like you weren't > running emerald before, or you would have seen the extra window dressing > earlier. > This is so very fun. It is better than a video game or a movie. I don't remember which email response, however, I do not have a red trim around a window. Mine is in blues like my desktop and has a rounded and highlighted shape to the bar at the top. It is also transparent on that bar. It is beautiful. I hope others who haven't tried Compiz yet you your instructions. It sure will help them get a start, and some of it is more than useful. I still don't have an Octagon shape; each time I rotate the mouse wheel, it is like the screen dips in from all four sides with an edge to the joining pages then fills the screen again. If you know how to get that cube effect, I would like to know how? Please tell me if I am bothering you too much, also. I don't want to become a pain. Steven Steven > Paul > > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 01:29:41 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:29:41 -0500 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <4933394F.6070001@yahoo.com> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <493335E5.8060202@sbcglobal.net> <4933394F.6070001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49333E05.3050705@sbcglobal.net> Paul Rumelhart wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Paul Rumelhart wrote: >> >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Paul, >>>> >>>> You got me laughing, I am so happy. I have eight now. Are you actually >>>> seeing an octagon? I just seem to be rotating the desktop as a whole. >>>> This isn't just fun, it is totally useful. I am always working with >>>> several pages on the desktop. Now I can separate projects. What a >>>> wonderful tool. This is just great. >>>> >>>> I have never played with Compiz yet. I have been too busy learning >>>> things that are a priority. It will be fun when I can take the time. >>>> Do you use any other features of Compiz that are so useful? >>>> >>>> Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Steven, >>> >>> I have it set so that I can press both the left and right mouse buttons >>> when my cursor is over the desktop, and it shows me an eight-sided >>> "cube" with one desktop on each side. Technically, I guess it's >>> ten-sided because you have the two end caps. I think you can also press >>> Ctrl and Alt and the left mouse button to do this. I remember I had to >>> set the zoom value to get the desktop "cube" to fall back from the >>> screen so I could see it better. Under Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings > Rotate Cube > General I have my zoom set at 0.5068. I >>> remember playing with the values until everything spun at the speed I >>> wanted it to. I also have Cube Reflection on (in the Effects area), >>> which shows the cube over a reflective floor. I think it's a >>> great-looking effect. >>> >>> I also have it setup so that if I hold down the Alt key and use the >>> wheel on the mouse, it will make the window the mouse is over more >>> transparent. That way, if my window is blocking another window and I >>> need to see what's on it, I can make the window slightly transparent so >>> I can continue to work in it but also see what's behind it. I don't >>> remember if I had to change it to do that or if it's default behavior. >>> >>> I also recommend using the Window Previews (in Advanced Desktop Effects >>> Settings in the Extras area). If this is enabled you should see a small >>> preview window whenever you mouse over a window icon in the start bar. >>> This is useful when I have a few of the same window types open, and I'm >>> not sure which one is the one I want. Mousing over them will show me a >>> snapshot of what they actually look like at that second. If you have a >>> video open, it will actually show the video as it's progressing in the >>> preview window. >>> >>> I've also played around with animations, which are nice but don't >>> actually help me be more productive. I also like having Wobbly Windows >>> enabled, although it does nothing to really help me either. It just >>> looks nice. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Paul, >> >> I just typed in --replace and it started to work again. Additionally >> lots of window dressing has been included. I am laughing again. This >> is the best experimentation experience I have had so far. >> >> Steven >> >> > > I forgot about the --replace option. Sorry about that. I'm glad it's > working. The compiz team stills seems to be working through some bugs, > but the progress they've made is wonderful. It sounds like you weren't > running emerald before, or you would have seen the extra window dressing > earlier. > > Paul > > > Dear Paul, I lost my window frames again. I was able to get it back with the: emerald --replace instruction, but something is probably wrong. Do you think I have a KDE window manager as default which is causing this. If so, how do I disable it? TIA Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, Steven From godshatter at yahoo.com Mon Dec 1 01:30:58 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:30:58 -0800 Subject: Compiz Fusion help needed. In-Reply-To: <4933380B.3020704@sbcglobal.net> References: <4932EA33.4040708@sbcglobal.net> <4932F346.8020305@yahoo.com> <4932FC0E.3020205@sbcglobal.net> <4933100F.1070402@yahoo.com> <4933380B.3020704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49333E52.5070207@yahoo.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear Paul, > > When I rotate the middle wheel on the mouse and the cube changes, it > dips and shows the rotation then fills the desktop again. Is that what > the cube is supposed to look like. I had a vision of a transparent > octagon that stayed within the borders of the desktop. Since I have a > 22" screen, I anticipated seeing an octagon that was farther from the > left and right of the screen than the top and bottom. It doesn't really > make a difference, the effects are wonderful, it is just when I see > pictures of a cube in literature about such things, it always appears as > smaller than the desktop. Thanks! > > Steven > I think part of the problem is my using the term "octagon". The "cube" object, which we have setup to have eight desktops on, is basically when seen from above an octagon. Think of two octagon, basically two stop signs, set one above the other. Then coat the outside along the edges with LCD screens, and you have what I'm calling the "octagon". You rarely see the top and bottom of it, just one of the eight sides. When the octagon is turning when using the mouse wheel, it is pushing back from the screen a small amount and then turning one face and then springing back towards the screen again. That's why you probably see a portion of one side of to the left or the right occasionally when it's turning. If the speeds you have set are too fast, it may be harder to visualize. If you haven't already, try pressing the left and right buttons of the mouse when your cursor is over the background and holding them down. You should see the whole construct or whatever it is pushed back away from the screen. Moving the mouse left or right should turn it so you can see more of it's sides. If you have windows on those other sides, you should see them too. If you have the cube reflection turned on, you should see the bottom portion of the cube reflected on the "ground". You can also move the mouse up or down and see the top or bottom of the octagon, just to see that it really is an octagon. If the left and right buttons don't work for you, try holding ctrl and alt down and the left mouse button simultaneously. If done this way, the cursor doesn't have to be over the background. The compiz developers were looking for some way to visualize multiple desktops. The default way, if you don't turn on the "cube", is to think of your screen as showing one of a grid of desktops up close. Moving desktops is then panning around left or right, like moving along a track. It looks like they wanted a more 3-D approach, so they thought of four desktops as being the faces on a cube. The faces are front, back, left, and right. They didn't use the top or bottom, because it would get too confusing because you would then be seeing some desktops upside down if you went up twice for example. It also made more sense if you wanted more or less than four desktops. So our eight desktops are just an extension of that. If you want to see it a little better visually, go into Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, and click on Desktop Cube. Then go to the Transparent Cube tab, and set the Opacity When Not Rotating to about 40. You should see the general shape of the octagon thing through your somewhat transparent background. I usually don't leave it that way, but it lets you see it visually. There are lots of settings to mess around with. If I remember right, you can set it up so your are inside an eight walled room instead of looking at it from outside. Paul From miron.florea at web.de Mon Dec 1 07:32:22 2008 From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:32:22 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <4932E700.1000002@sbcglobal.net> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <4932A0B6.5040302@web.de> <4932E700.1000002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49339306.4040405@web.de> On 11/30/2008 09:18 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > I downloaded it from a torrent source, like Mininova. I don't remember > which. It was different from all other rar's I downloaded, in that, > after Kate opens it, it is shown as a .bin. As I recall, they usually > show as .avi files. When I attempt to open it, I get a choice of > players; I choose Helix, because it is the one that said it could play > .bin's. I don't understand this any more than I appear to understand. > Thanks! > > Steven > > Since it came off a torrent it may well be a cd/dvd image (clone). Did the torrent / rar contain a .cue file as well? From iebnue_cute at yahoo.com Mon Dec 1 07:36:46 2008 From: iebnue_cute at yahoo.com (Ibnu Wijayanto) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:36:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: linux In-Reply-To: <49339306.4040405@web.de> Message-ID: <607261.96848.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> linux is the best... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <4933A6B8.9030306@picasso.ucsf.edu> Hi guys, Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. What would be the downside of this ? Thanks, Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From barnaby at drofle.com Mon Dec 1 09:09:18 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:09:18 +0000 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <200811301910.12401.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200811301910.12401.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4933A9BE.6020409@drofle.com> nepal wrote: > On Sunday 30 Nov 2008, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> I will be away on holiday soon for about three weeks. I >> am wondering about setting up some sort of web based >> email so that I can be contacted while I am away. >> >> Any recommendations please? I know about yahoo mail but >> there must be better ones. I have already looked at a >> few, including squirrelmail and atmail. But it is always >> better to rely on help from list members rather than to >> go by what I find through Google. >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil Winchurst > > I find googlemail works perfectly, I post to this list with > it, but have it set up in KMail. I could just as easily > access all the mail via the google web interface if I were > away from my computer for some time. Damn, it is even more > reliable than the mail (lack of) service provided by my ISP > which is no end of trouble. I can send you an invite if you > wish to make it easier. > > nepal. > > Now you mention it I have googlemail set up for myself already. I had forgotten since I don't get on with it very well. I never use it. I am not blaming googlemail, I expect it's me, but I just can't take to it at all. Neil From barnaby at drofle.com Mon Dec 1 09:11:48 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:11:48 +0000 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <4932F12C.5040309@swbell.net> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <4932F12C.5040309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4933AA54.6070702@drofle.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> I will be away on holiday soon for about three weeks. I am wondering >> about setting up some sort of web based email so that I can be contacted >> while I am away. >> >> Any recommendations please? I know about yahoo mail but there must be >> better ones. I have already looked at a few, including squirrelmail and >> atmail. But it is always better to rely on help from list members rather >> than to go by what I find through Google. >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil Winchurst >> >> > > Do you have a laptop that your planning on taking? > > If yes then just set up your regular e-mail account on it. You will be > able to get your mail from anyplace you can get an internet connection. > Just don't forget to turn off your home computer, or at least your > e-mail program on it. > My wife has a laptop, running Windows!! but whether she takes it is not yet decided. Yes, I realise that is an option, but the lappy may well finish up left at home. Neil From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 12:43:16 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:43:16 -0500 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> Message-ID: <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Sunday 30 November 2008 13:53:37 Neil Winchurst wrote: > it is always better to rely on help from list members rather > than to go by what I find through Google. Ironic to this statement, I find Google's gmail to be quite nice. It has a nice threaded web interface, and does IMAP nicely (as long as you pay attention to its idiosyncracies). What may be nice in your situation is that you can have Gmail retrieve mail from your other accounts and present them to you in webmail as labeled with that account, or in an account folder using IMAP access in kmail. If you don't like it enough to be permanent, you can always go back to retrieving that mail from the original server yourself once you return from your trip. The other things I like about it are excellent spam filtering (don't use local filtering with it as it slows things down too much) and being able to use IMAP with some accounts that I have that don't support IMAP themselves. I access my mail from multiple computers, and could never go back to POP again. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 14:37:47 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:37:47 -0400 Subject: Web email References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200811301910.12401.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4933A9BE.6020409@drofle.com> Message-ID: <1260868.oqdHX9iZdZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > nepal wrote: >> On Sunday 30 Nov 2008, Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> I will be away on holiday soon for about three weeks. I >>> am wondering about setting up some sort of web based >>> email so that I can be contacted while I am away. >>> >>> Any recommendations please? I know about yahoo mail but >>> there must be better ones. I have already looked at a >>> few, including squirrelmail and atmail. But it is always >>> better to rely on help from list members rather than to >>> go by what I find through Google. >>> >> I find googlemail works perfectly, I post to this list with >> it, but have it set up in KMail. I could just as easily >> access all the mail via the google web interface if I were >> away from my computer for some time. Damn, it is even more >> reliable than the mail (lack of) service provided by my ISP >> which is no end of trouble. I can send you an invite if you >> wish to make it easier. >> > Now you mention it I have googlemail set up for myself already. I had > forgotten since I don't get on with it very well. I never use it. I am > not blaming googlemail, I expect it's me, but I just can't take to it > at all. I get all my mail via gmail - including having it pick up the stuff from my ISP, as that's as bad as nepal's. Like nepal, I generally use gmail via KMail, but when I'm away from my own computer, it's convenient to use their web interface. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 14:41:56 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:41:56 -0400 Subject: Web email References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5301378.1UrJRB1RO0@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > The other things I like about [gmail] are excellent spam filtering > (don't use local filtering with it as it slows things down too much) > and being able to use > IMAP with some accounts that I have that don't support IMAP > themselves. I access my mail from multiple computers, and could never > go back to POP again. Now that I finally have a reasonably reliable home internet connection, I'm seriously considering this myself. KMail's spam filtering via bogofilter is b0rked in intrepid, and I turned it off - and it turns out I get very little spam through gmail, anyway. I'm _not_ entirely sure how I feel about that - somebody else shouldn't be deciding what's spam to me, especially since I work a helpdesk - but I've never yet found a false positive in the spam folder. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 14:35:02 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:35:02 -0400 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. References: <4933A6B8.9030306@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <1467997.oeixVB14Hj@cedar.serverforest.com> Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi guys, > > Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under > Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. > > What would be the downside of this ? None - but you've got exactly what you would have had if you'd installed Gnome over Kubuntu. The non-desktop parts were always LTS, and the KDE part isn't. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 14:54:41 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:54:41 -0400 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811301648.08663.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <49339BFF.5050000@dmiyu.org> <200812011039.00159.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2369475.ZlOgagMgM7@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > On Monday, 01 December 2008 10:10:39 Steve Lamb wrote: >> I want more than the sudo -i provides. So for me when I >> want root I tell it just that, root. > I am sure there are plenty threads answering this... but .. what's the > essential difference between being 'su' and being 'sudo'? None. Zero. Zip. Nada. "sudo -i" gives you a login root shell. Exactly what you would get if you'd enabled the root account and logged in at a console prompt. What Steve wants is not "more than sudo -i", it's just the comfort of the old blankie. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 15:06:52 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:06:52 -0400 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>> entertaining once in a while. >> >>It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) kpat > You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, aka > WGA, to Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an XP license. I had an OEM copy of Windows 98 upgraded to XP via a licensed upgrade disk, and that now runs in a VM on another machine. afaict, it's a fully legal and licensed installation in Canada. > Screw 'em and the camel that rode in on them, I tried Ubuntu-8.04 LTS, > got tired of fighting with sudo every 30 seconds to get the stuff I > wanted (KDE & friends) installed and put an F9 respin on it, much > friendlier. Whatever > became of the sudo that was good for 10 minutes anyway? Nothing. I've always had a default of 15 minutes - and that's what you get if you don't specify "timestamp_timeout". -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 15:10:57 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:10:57 +0200 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812010710n3db24452o59c16fd9ef2dff95@mail.gmail.com> 2008/11/30 Neil Winchurst : > I will be away on holiday soon for about three weeks. I am wondering > about setting up some sort of web based email so that I can be contacted > while I am away. > > Any recommendations please? I know about yahoo mail but there must be > better ones. I have already looked at a few, including squirrelmail and > atmail. But it is always better to rely on help from list members rather > than to go by what I find through Google. > > Thanks > > Neil Winchurst > I highly recommend Gmail. There are privacy crybabies who worry about the targeted ads, but if one is so sensitive then web-based email is not for them anyway. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 15:26:32 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:26:32 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <2369475.ZlOgagMgM7@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811301648.08663.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <49339BFF.5050000@dmiyu.org> <200812011039.00159.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2369475.ZlOgagMgM7@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <49340228.3010307@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Donn wrote: > > >> On Monday, 01 December 2008 10:10:39 Steve Lamb wrote: >> >>> I want more than the sudo -i provides. So for me when I >>> want root I tell it just that, root. >>> >> I am sure there are plenty threads answering this... but .. what's the >> essential difference between being 'su' and being 'sudo'? >> > > None. Zero. Zip. Nada. > > "sudo -i" gives you a login root shell. Exactly what you would get if > you'd enabled the root account and logged in at a console prompt. > > What Steve wants is not "more than sudo -i", it's just the comfort of > the old blankie. > Thankie for the blankie. Derek. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 15:32:09 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:32:09 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <49339306.4040405@web.de> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <4932A0B6.5040302@web.de> <4932E700.1000002@sbcglobal.net> <49339306.4040405@web.de> Message-ID: <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> Octavian Florea wrote: > On 11/30/2008 09:18 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I downloaded it from a torrent source, like Mininova. I don't remember >> which. It was different from all other rar's I downloaded, in that, >> after Kate opens it, it is shown as a .bin. As I recall, they usually >> show as .avi files. When I attempt to open it, I get a choice of >> players; I choose Helix, because it is the one that said it could play >> .bin's. I don't understand this any more than I appear to understand. >> Thanks! >> >> Steven >> >> >> > Since it came off a torrent it may well be a cd/dvd image (clone). Did > the torrent / rar contain a .cue file as well? > > It did not mention a .cue, only .bin. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon Dec 1 15:54:17 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:54:17 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 01 December 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>> entertaining once in a while. >>> >>>It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) > >kpat > >> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, aka >> WGA, to > >Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an XP >license. I had an OEM copy of Windows 98 upgraded to XP via a licensed >upgrade disk, and that now runs in a VM on another machine. afaict, >it's a fully legal and licensed installation in Canada. > >> Screw 'em and the camel that rode in on them, I tried Ubuntu-8.04 LTS, >> got tired of fighting with sudo every 30 seconds to get the stuff I >> wanted (KDE & friends) installed and put an F9 respin on it, much >> friendlier. Whatever >> became of the sudo that was good for 10 minutes anyway? > >Nothing. I've always had a default of 15 minutes - and that's what you >get if you don't specify "timestamp_timeout". One of the reasons I dumped Hardy Heron was that the sudo seemed to end with the job you gave it, and I got tired of re-entering my password several times a minute. I use a long password, and 74 year old fingers aren't always well centered on the key, which leads to erroneous entries and tiresome repeats. The older 6.06 release that runs emc and my milling machine does not suffer from this. I have one old IBM keyboard that is great, but its a cast monster that you can hear over at the neighbors, keeping the missus awake. The fingers of course are still a problem on any keyboard, and would be greatly alleviated if I could find one that didn't register a key press till the key hits the bottom of its stroke. Sadly, most keyboards will register the keystroke if you can feel the finger against the side of an adjacent key. But then these hands were never sized for keyboards, I have to buy the largest gloves in the bin, and see if I can get them on before heading for the checkout, many times I can't get the things on even when they are labeled XXL. Short fingers, but very very wide palm and the cuffs don't stretch to let me in. I miss-stated the release above, it was 8.04.1, a re-spin. My bad. As I'm the only user here, and behind a firewall from hell (dd-wrt), whatever it was that was so paranoid about sudo chased me off. I would like to have a box, faster than that one of course, that I could turn the wife loose on, maybe. But basically, she isn't interested. I'd like to fix that, if indeed its fixable at her age. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) It's not so hard to lift yourself by your bootstraps once you're off the ground. -- Daniel B. Luten From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Mon Dec 1 15:58:24 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. In-Reply-To: <4933A6B8.9030306@picasso.ucsf.edu> References: <4933A6B8.9030306@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <200812010758.24876.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 01 December 2008 12:56:24 am Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under Ubuntu > 8.04 LTS. > > What would be the downside of this ? The only one is Kwallet but you can just fully uninstall that and not have to mess with it! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Mon Dec 1 16:09:18 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:09:18 +0000 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <880dece00812010710n3db24452o59c16fd9ef2dff95@mail.gmail.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <880dece00812010710n3db24452o59c16fd9ef2dff95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49340C2E.7050405@yahoo.it> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/11/30 Neil Winchurst : >> I will be away on holiday soon for about three weeks. I am wondering >> about setting up some sort of web based email so that I can be contacted >> while I am away. >> >> Any recommendations please? I know about yahoo mail but there must be >> better ones. I have already looked at a few, including squirrelmail and >> atmail. But it is always better to rely on help from list members rather >> than to go by what I find through Google. >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil Winchurst >> > > I highly recommend Gmail. There are privacy crybabies who worry about > the targeted ads, but if one is so sensitive then web-based email is > not for them anyway. > What adds? :) adblock in firefox seems to be doing a wonderful job in making them disappear completely. I. From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Mon Dec 1 16:15:12 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:15:12 -0800 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812010815.12321.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 01 December 2008 4:43:16 am Art Alexion wrote: > On Sunday 30 November 2008 13:53:37 Neil Winchurst wrote: > > it is always better to rely on help from list members rather > > than to go by what I find through Google. > > Ironic to this statement, I find Google's gmail to be quite nice. It has a > nice threaded web interface, and does IMAP nicely (as long as you pay > attention to its idiosyncracies). One can usually download his mail from about anyplace he gets a web connection but for sending mail out I use Gmail. I have it configured in my Kmail prefs and use it whenever I am traveling. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From barnaby at drofle.com Mon Dec 1 16:25:39 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:25:39 +0000 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <200812010815.12321.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812010815.12321.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <49341003.50105@drofle.com> Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 4:43:16 am Art Alexion wrote: >> On Sunday 30 November 2008 13:53:37 Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> it is always better to rely on help from list members rather >>> than to go by what I find through Google. >> Ironic to this statement, I find Google's gmail to be quite nice. It has a >> nice threaded web interface, and does IMAP nicely (as long as you pay >> attention to its idiosyncracies). > > One can usually download his mail from about anyplace he gets a web connection > but for sending mail out I use Gmail. I have it configured in my Kmail prefs > and use it whenever I am traveling. > I have a gmail account but I never use it so I had forgotten all about it. Now that I have been reminded I will use it whenever I am away from home and have access to a computer. Neil From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 1 17:38:13 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:38:13 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49342105.1050100@sbcglobal.net> Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>> >>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>> >> kpat >> >> >>> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, aka >>> WGA, to >>> >> Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an XP >> license. I had an OEM copy of Windows 98 upgraded to XP via a licensed >> upgrade disk, and that now runs in a VM on another machine. afaict, >> it's a fully legal and licensed installation in Canada. >> >> >>> Screw 'em and the camel that rode in on them, I tried Ubuntu-8.04 LTS, >>> got tired of fighting with sudo every 30 seconds to get the stuff I >>> wanted (KDE & friends) installed and put an F9 respin on it, much >>> friendlier. Whatever >>> became of the sudo that was good for 10 minutes anyway? >>> >> Nothing. I've always had a default of 15 minutes - and that's what you >> get if you don't specify "timestamp_timeout". >> > > One of the reasons I dumped Hardy Heron was that the sudo seemed to end with > the job you gave it, and I got tired of re-entering my password several times > a minute. I use a long password, and 74 year old fingers aren't always well > centered on the key, which leads to erroneous entries and tiresome repeats. > The older 6.06 release that runs emc and my milling machine does not suffer > from this. > > I have one old IBM keyboard that is great, but its a cast monster that you can > hear over at the neighbors, keeping the missus awake. > > The fingers of course are still a problem on any keyboard, and would be > greatly alleviated if I could find one that didn't register a key press till > the key hits the bottom of its stroke. Sadly, most keyboards will register > the keystroke if you can feel the finger against the side of an adjacent key. > But then these hands were never sized for keyboards, I have to buy the > largest gloves in the bin, and see if I can get them on before heading for > the checkout, many times I can't get the things on even when they are labeled > XXL. Short fingers, but very very wide palm and the cuffs don't stretch to > let me in. > > I miss-stated the release above, it was 8.04.1, a re-spin. My bad. As I'm the > only user here, and behind a firewall from hell (dd-wrt), whatever it was > that was so paranoid about sudo chased me off. I would like to have a box, > faster than that one of course, that I could turn the wife loose on, maybe. > But basically, she isn't interested. I'd like to fix that, if indeed its > fixable at her age. > > I am an old 66 year old. So far I have lived 13 years longer than my father, who lived 8 years longer than any other males on the tree. I lost the end of an important finger, so when it comes to typing, I have similar problems to you. I don't have anyone to keep me company. My only computer friends are on this list, which I love dearly. A social email off the List would be welcomed by me. Cordially, Steven From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Dec 1 17:52:49 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:52:49 -0800 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <2369475.ZlOgagMgM7@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811301648.08663.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <49339BFF.5050000@dmiyu.org> <200812011039.00159.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2369475.ZlOgagMgM7@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <49342471.6030308@dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > Donn wrote: >> On Monday, 01 December 2008 10:10:39 Steve Lamb wrote: >>> I want more than the sudo -i provides. So for me when I >>> want root I tell it just that, root. >> I am sure there are plenty threads answering this... but .. what's the >> essential difference between being 'su' and being 'sudo'? > None. Zero. Zip. Nada. You know, until I read the "old blankie" comment I was feeling charitable but... How foolish of you. If you didn't have me killfiled you'd know he snipped the most important part and thus wouldn't look like a complete dolt when I explain it. > "sudo -i" gives you a login root shell. Exactly what you would get if > you'd enabled the root account and logged in at a console prompt. > What Steve wants is not "more than sudo -i", it's just the comfort of > the old blankie. Or the fact that when I said I put it in my .zshrc file would clue people in to the fact that sudo -i and su - -p do two different things. Namely sudo -i logs me in as root complete with root's shell; that being bash. Since I am clearly not a bash user but a zsh user this is not desirable. The following shows the difference quite nicely. {grey at olethros:~} echo $SHELL /bin/zsh {grey at olethros:~} sudo su - -p root at olethros:~# echo $SHELL /bin/zsh {grey at olethros:~} sudo -i olethros:~# echo $SHELL /bin/bash Of course this got me to wondering if sudo could do the same thing, and it can. sudo -s, not sudo -i, will preserve the user's shell. But then when I put that alias together it was from a .zshrc file I've maintained since before I was on machines that regularly used sudo (late '90s) so it was simpler to just prepend sudo and call it a day than to worry about looking up -p. The effect is the same. *shrug* From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 18:01:33 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:01:33 -0500 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <5301378.1UrJRB1RO0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4932E131.2060201@drofle.com> <200812010743.16376.art.alexion@gmail.com> <5301378.1UrJRB1RO0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812011301.38404.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 01 December 2008 9:41:56 am Derek Broughton wrote: > KMail's spam filtering via bogofilter is b0rked in intrepid, and I turned > it off - and it turns out I get very little spam through gmail, anyway.   > I'm _not_ entirely sure how I feel about that - somebody else shouldn't > be deciding what's spam to me, especially since I work a helpdesk - but > I've never yet found a false positive in the spam folder. When using kmail for gmail IMAP remember that you can search for common false positives (some of my lists keep turning up in spam; others never do) and if you find any, just move them to your inbox to mark them not spam. Likewise, if spam gets through, don't delete it until you move it to spam to mark it as such. You can apply labels by copying to folders, and remove them the same way. Set up your filters on gmail, and don't use local filtering (at Ingo's suggestion, this solved a world of problems). I use evolution for my work exchange server, and it does not do as good a job with gmail IMAP as kmail. Thunderbird does an OK job, but not as good as kmail. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu Mon Dec 1 18:21:33 2008 From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:21:33 -0800 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. (Derek Broughton) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> Hi Derek , Now you have me confuse ! ;-) Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS : everything (including gnome desktop) but KDE would be LTS (3year support) with Kubuntu (any version) being none LTS, everything including KDE will be supported for 18month. I am using KDE, but I need to stick to version 8.04 for various reasons (vmware , cluster tools , kde 3.5 , ....). So I have the choice between Ubuntu 8.04 (using KDE) and Kubuntu 8.04. I love LTS, I've been staying 4 years with the great Kubuntu 6.06 but now its time to move on to the next LTS because they are too many things to update. It looks to me that I'll be better off installing KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 than installing Kubuntu 8.04. Is there's any flow to that thought ? Thanks Chris > Hi guys, > > > > Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under > > Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. > > > > What would be the downside of this ? > None - but you've got exactly what you would have had if you'd installed Gnome over Kubuntu. The non-desktop parts were always LTS, and the KDE part isn't. -- derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 18:24:18 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:24:18 +0200 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. (Derek Broughton) In-Reply-To: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> References: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <49342BD2.9050307@gmail.com> Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi Derek , > > Now you have me confuse ! ;-) > > Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that > > KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS : everything (including gnome desktop) but > KDE would be LTS (3year support) > with Kubuntu (any version) being none LTS, everything including KDE will > be supported for 18month. > No, Derek is correct. Ubuntu is LTS and that means the Gnome parts will be as well. Kubuntu is not so the KDE parts will not be updated post 18 months. However all security etc. and other non-KDE apps (OpenOffice.org as an example) will be maintained for the full LTS period. It will make no difference whatsoever HOW you choose to install KDE on 8.04, the LTS part will still not apply to the KDE apps. Sinclair From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 18:50:15 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:50:15 +0100 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. (Derek Broughton) In-Reply-To: <49342BD2.9050307@gmail.com> References: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> <49342BD2.9050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: > It will make no difference whatsoever HOW you choose to install KDE on > 8.04, the LTS part will still not apply to the KDE apps. > > Sinclair But he would end up with a lot more Gnome stuff right, if he did the Ubuntu install? -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From iodine at runbox.no Mon Dec 1 18:51:10 2008 From: iodine at runbox.no (iodine at runbox.no) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> Derek Broughton wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>> entertaining once in a while. >>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) > > kpat > >> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, aka >> WGA, to > > Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an XP > license. WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D -- Odd From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 19:16:27 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:16:27 -0500 Subject: Syncing iTouch Message-ID: <200812011416.34032.art.alexion@gmail.com> Apple designed the file system on the iPod Touch (and iPhone) so that it can only be accessed currently with iTunes. I won an iTouch at a conference, only to find out that Amarok won't handle it. The only solution seems to involve iTunes >6. iTunes 7 & 8 won't run under wine or crossover, so I have to run them in an XP vm. Is anyone doing this with full sync capability, and which vm are you using (kvm, vmware, virtualbox, parallels, xen, etc.)? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 19:36:57 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:36:57 -0400 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> Message-ID: <5466151.fF1IQ0aFcI@cedar.serverforest.com> iodine at runbox.no wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >> >> kpat >> >>> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, >>> aka WGA, to >> >> Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an >> XP license. > > WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. Nope. I've never had a problem with it. Online _registration_ is implemented, but it isn't the horrible WGA. -- derek From iodine at runbox.no Mon Dec 1 19:53:22 2008 From: iodine at runbox.no (iodine at runbox.no) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:53:22 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <5466151.fF1IQ0aFcI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <5466151.fF1IQ0aFcI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <493440B2.5000001@runbox.no> Derek Broughton wrote: > iodine at runbox.no wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>> kpat >>> >>>> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, >>>> aka WGA, to >>> Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an >>> XP license. >> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. > > Nope. I've never had a problem with it. That's a very narrow point of view. It's like saying "I've never had a problem with my car, therefore there are no problems with cars". > Online _registration_ is > implemented, but it isn't the horrible WGA. Wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage -- Odd From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 19:41:29 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:41:29 -0400 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. References: <4933A6B8.9030306@picasso.ucsf.edu> <200812010758.24876.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <2236628.8cOAaBrQhG@cedar.serverforest.com> Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 12:56:24 am Christophe Guilbert wrote: > >> Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under >> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. >> >> What would be the downside of this ? > > The only one is Kwallet but you can just fully uninstall that and not > have to mess with it! How is that a downside? We discussed this a couple of weeks ago, and seemed to have converted the people who said they didn't like it, but in any case you get KWallet with Kubuntu, or with KDE on Ubuntu, so it isn't a downside of doing the install the way Christophe did. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 19:43:56 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:43:56 -0400 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. (Derek Broughton) References: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <6148464.SyPEQMfeko@cedar.serverforest.com> Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi Derek , > > Now you have me confuse ! ;-) > > Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that > > KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS : everything (including gnome desktop) but > KDE would be LTS (3year support) > with Kubuntu (any version) being none LTS, everything including KDE > will be supported for 18month. Consider that there's nothing to identify the non-KDE parts of the distro as being either Ubuntu or Kubuntu - they're all sitting in the same repository. So if it isn't exclusive to Kubuntu, it's LTS. > > It looks to me that I'll be better off installing KDE under Ubuntu > 8.04 than installing Kubuntu 8.04. > > Is there's any flow to that thought ? That just saddles you with a lot of Gnome software you may not want. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 1 21:05:45 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:05:45 -0400 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <5466151.fF1IQ0aFcI@cedar.serverforest.com> <493440B2.5000001@runbox.no> Message-ID: <9455088.LAP6C49QKD@cedar.serverforest.com> iodine at runbox.no wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to >>>>>> remember?) >>>> kpat >>>> >>>>> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, >>>>> aka WGA, to >>>> Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an >>>> XP license. >>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >> >> Nope. I've never had a problem with it. > > That's a very narrow point of view. It's like saying "I've never had > a problem with my car, therefore there are no problems with cars". No, it's like saying that if you actually had a valid license, the registration system on XP wasn't a "major annoyance". The registration system on Vista really is. -- derek From iodine at runbox.no Mon Dec 1 21:19:01 2008 From: iodine at runbox.no (iodine at runbox.no) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:19:01 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <9455088.LAP6C49QKD@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <4931F6E9.7090900@sbcglobal.net> <49326C9C.3060201@yahoo.it> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <5466151.fF1IQ0aFcI@cedar.serverforest.com> <493440B2.5000001@runbox.no> <9455088.LAP6C49QKD@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <493454C5.6090900@runbox.no> Derek Broughton wrote: > iodine at runbox.no wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>> >>>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>>>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to >>>>>>> remember?) >>>>> kpat >>>>> >>>>>> You all have forgotten that M$ now uses Windows Genuine Advantage, >>>>>> aka WGA, to >>>>> Only for Vista - and he didn't _have_ a license for that, he had an >>>>> XP license. >>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>> Nope. I've never had a problem with it. >> That's a very narrow point of view. It's like saying "I've never had >> a problem with my car, therefore there are no problems with cars". > > No, it's like saying that if you actually had a valid license, the > registration system on XP wasn't a "major annoyance". I said "IT CAN BE". Please read more carefully. My XP licenses are all valid, thank you very much. I haven't had any problems, but THESE people sure did: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070825-windows-genuine-advantage-suffers-worldwide-outage-problems-galore.html -- Odd From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 1 21:34:18 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:34:18 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200811300931.15835.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: Gene Heskett wrote: > > One of the reasons I dumped Hardy Heron was that the sudo seemed to end with > the job you gave it, and I got tired of re-entering my password several times > a minute. I use a long password, and 74 year old fingers aren't always well > centered on the key, which leads to erroneous entries and tiresome repeats. > The older 6.06 release that runs emc and my milling machine does not suffer > from this. sudo -i and you enter your password once per day. which is more clean, but "sudo su" should also do. > > I have one old IBM keyboard that is great, but its a cast monster that you can > hear over at the neighbors, keeping the missus awake. you better buy one for your neighbours and everyone will never want a diferent keyboard. I wish I had more of those. Kind regards Eberhard From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 1 21:32:55 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:32:55 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> Message-ID: <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> iodine at runbox.no wrote: > WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. > But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. > So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: Nils From mlsoft at videotron.ca Mon Dec 1 22:25:19 2008 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:25:19 -0500 Subject: KDE with Kubuntu vs KDE under Ubuntu LTS. (Derek Broughton) In-Reply-To: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> References: <49342B2D.4000303@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <200812011725.20170.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On Monday 01 December 2008 13:21:33 Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi Derek , > > Now you have me confuse ! ;-) > > Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that > > KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS : everything (including gnome desktop) but > KDE would be LTS (3year support) > with Kubuntu (any version) being none LTS, everything including KDE will > be supported for 18month. > > I am using KDE, but I need to stick to version 8.04 for various reasons > (vmware , cluster tools , kde 3.5 , ....). > > So I have the choice between Ubuntu 8.04 (using KDE) and Kubuntu 8.04. I > love LTS, I've been staying 4 years with the great Kubuntu 6.06 but now > its time to move on to the next LTS because they are too many things to > update. > > It looks to me that I'll be better off installing KDE under Ubuntu 8.04 > than installing Kubuntu 8.04. > > Is there's any flow to that thought ? > > Thanks > > Chris > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > Since Kubuntu skip the next LTS release. I installed KDE under > > > Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. > > > > > > What would be the downside of this ? > > > > None - but you've got exactly what you would have had if you'd installed > Gnome over Kubuntu. The non-desktop parts were always LTS, and the KDE > part isn't. > -- derek > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > In a world without walls and fences, > who needs Windows and Gates? > - Sun Microsystems > > I tested the 2 ways. Installing kde on a ubuntu, will not perform ideally, because all the fine tuning of the base system is done for default ubuntu/gnome applications. When Installing a Kubuntu-8.04, then you have all the fine tuning of the base system done for kde. that is for example the KDM session setitngs, default applications for file / dir / music / web / mail / ... With ubuntu as a base, you will have to change, disable, enable, modify , many little things to make the system react with your kde apps, instead of the gtk/gnome one who suddently appear in the middle of your tasks. All that depend of which system you prefer as the main one, kde or gnome. the other system (installed second) will allways be a little on the side of the perfect functionnality. many very little things. When mixing system, make sure the second system will not install or replace some basic functionnality of the main one. for example, do not install gnome on top of kde, but install only the gnome apps you want, and they will install the minimal gnome dependency for them, but not the basic management system of gnome who would interfere with the kde ones. (ex: device changing, ...) (Unless wou want to experience the 2 full desktops, from the login page) Hope this help! -- Martin Laberge mlsoft at videotron.ca Tel:(418)521-6823 30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning... From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon Dec 1 22:26:19 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:26:19 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <200812011054.17309.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200812011726.19553.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 01 December 2008, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> One of the reasons I dumped Hardy Heron was that the sudo seemed to end >> with the job you gave it, and I got tired of re-entering my password >> several times a minute. I use a long password, and 74 year old fingers >> aren't always well centered on the key, which leads to erroneous entries >> and tiresome repeats. The older 6.06 release that runs emc and my milling >> machine does not suffer from this. > >sudo -i and you enter your password once per day. > >which is more clean, but "sudo su" should also do. > >> I have one old IBM keyboard that is great, but its a cast monster that you >> can hear over at the neighbors, keeping the missus awake. > >you better buy one for your neighbours and everyone will never want a >diferent keyboard. I wish I had more of those. Yup, built like a tank and just as bullet proof. >Kind regards >Eberhard -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) IRQ-problems with the Un-Interruptable-Power-Supply From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 1 23:47:35 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (neal pardoe) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:47:35 +0000 Subject: Web email Message-ID: <302eae880812011547h49a16394s9bdd51b9da3412f5@mail.gmail.com> Re: Web email (nepal, Mon Dec 1 23:38:37 2008) On Monday 01 December 2008 12:43:16 Art Alexion wrote: > On Sunday 30 November 2008 13:53:37 Neil Winchurst wrote: > > it is always better to rely on help from list members rather > > than to go by what I find through Google. > > Ironic to this statement, I find Google's gmail to be quite nice. It has a > nice threaded web interface, and does IMAP nicely (as long as you pay > attention to its idiosyncracies). > > What may be nice in your situation is that you can have Gmail retrieve mail > from your other accounts and present them to you in webmail as labeled with > that account, or in an account folder using IMAP access in kmail. If you > don't like it enough to be permanent, you can always go back to retrieving > that mail from the original server yourself once you return from your trip. > > The other things I like about it are excellent spam filtering (don't use > local filtering with it as it slows things down too much) and being able to > use IMAP with some accounts that I have that don't support IMAP themselves. > I access my mail from multiple computers, and could never go back to POP > again. Yes, it is excellent. I was looking this lunch time at what mails I hadn't yet downloaded and there were about 20-30 spams already just for today. I never get to see them as I download my googlemail into kmail. But the interface is nice too, I like the way it collapses mails and just shows a single header line in an hierarchy. And as I said my ISP's mail service is apauling, I had a friend trying to send me an email which he tried repeatedly over a three day period which I never received, so I gave him one of my google addresses and it was there within a couple of minutes. Very reliable. nepal From miron.florea at web.de Tue Dec 2 07:15:33 2008 From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:15:33 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <4932A0B6.5040302@web.de> <4932E700.1000002@sbcglobal.net> <49339306.4040405@web.de> <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4934E095.5070601@web.de> On 12/01/2008 05:32 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > It did not mention a .cue, only .bin. Very odd, I have never met a .bin video file before. After a bit of reading I found that vlc and mplayer could play such files, with mixed results. Have you tried mplayer? You said it appeared as an archive. Try opening it with Ark or use rar directly from the command line if you have it installed. If it can list its contents then it's an image. From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 2 07:48:44 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:48:44 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > iodine at runbox.no wrote: >> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D > > You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: > > > > Nils > Great!!! Thanks much! Eberhard From barnaby at drofle.com Tue Dec 2 08:23:52 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:23:52 +0000 Subject: Web email In-Reply-To: <302eae880812011547h49a16394s9bdd51b9da3412f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <302eae880812011547h49a16394s9bdd51b9da3412f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4934F098.8060309@drofle.com> neal pardoe wrote: > Re: Web email > (nepal, Mon Dec 1 23:38:37 2008) > On Monday 01 December 2008 12:43:16 Art Alexion wrote: > > Yes, it is excellent. I was looking this lunch time at what mails I > hadn't yet downloaded and there were about 20-30 spams already just > for today. I never get to see them as I download my googlemail into > kmail. > > But the interface is nice too, I like the way it collapses mails and > just shows a single header line in an hierarchy. And as I said my > ISP's mail service is apauling, I had a friend trying to send me an > email which he tried repeatedly over a three day period which I never > received, so I gave him one of my google addresses and it was there > within a couple of minutes. > Very reliable. > > nepal > Yes, thanks to my original query I was reminded that last year I set had up an account with Gmail. At the time I didn't like it much so I just forgot all about it. So now I have looked at it again and what a difference. It is like a new product. Anyway I have now set it up to my liking and have added it to Thunderbird using IMAP. So now I will be able to use it as a web email client while I am away and as a normal email client on my own computer once I am back home. Great. Thanks for the reminder everyone Neil Winchurst From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue Dec 2 09:32:10 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:32:10 +0000 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 > From: iodine at runbox.no > Subject: Re: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206 at runbox.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> >>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>> >>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>> >> kpat >> >> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself brian From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 10:19:16 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:19:16 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <4934E095.5070601@web.de> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <4932A0B6.5040302@web.de> <4932E700.1000002@sbcglobal.net> <49339306.4040405@web.de> <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> <4934E095.5070601@web.de> Message-ID: 2008/12/2 Octavian Florea : > On 12/01/2008 05:32 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: >> It did not mention a .cue, only .bin. > Very odd, I have never met a .bin video file before. After a bit of > reading I found that vlc and mplayer could play such files, with mixed > results. Have you tried mplayer? > You said it appeared as an archive. Try opening it with Ark or use rar > directly from the command line if you have it installed. If it can list > its contents then it's an image. > I think that the VCD standard are using BIN as it's file-extensions for it's MPEG-PS. To find out what kind of file it is, you have the file command. It's not 100% accurate but for most of the time it get it right. / Jonas From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 10:36:38 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:36:38 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker Message-ID: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? Sinclair From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 12:16:28 2008 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:16:28 +0300 Subject: script for setting proxy in KDE4.1 In-Reply-To: <200811292015.22823.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200811292015.22823.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: <4935271C.9020508@gmail.com> Alain Muls wrote: > > Or does anyone know how to modify which *rc file that controls this > setting in KDE4.1 > try ~/.kde4/share/config/kioslaverc i'm not sure, but found my proxy settings there From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Dec 2 12:26:54 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:26:54 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <4934E095.5070601@web.de> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> <4934E095.5070601@web.de> Message-ID: <200812020726.54503.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 2:15:33 am Octavian Florea wrote: > On 12/01/2008 05:32 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > > It did not mention a .cue, only .bin. > > Very odd, I have never met a .bin video file before. After a bit of > reading I found that vlc and mplayer could play such files, with mixed > results. Have you tried mplayer? > You said it appeared as an archive. Try opening it with Ark or use rar > directly from the command line if you have it installed. If it can list > its contents then it's an image. This is probably irreverent here but, from my experience .bin and .cue files make up a karaoke song. I make my own karaoke discs and the .bin and .cue files are needed to make the disk work correctly. I think the .bin file holds the music, and all the data to tell the music where to find the .cue file. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 13:37:29 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:37:29 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812020537i6d09b81cs8da06e28d9d07fdd@mail.gmail.com> 2008/11/29 Steven Vollom : > I am previewing a movie for my grandbabies. It is a Nancy Drew > Mystery. I is a Rar file that has a file association of .bin. I > Googled for the correct player which was Helix. I installed but the > player does not work. It suggests it is missing bin . Can't find a > missing dependency. > > Steven > Please run "file" on the file so that we can verify what it is: $ file mystery.bin Then paste the output here. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 2 14:16:20 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:16:20 -0400 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1299236.dPVFmybBHp@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I > can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. "as 2.4 did"? I never knew it could - and the file picker is the thing I always hated most about OO. > Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? Only Dotan's brainstorm and bug reports for making gtk apps use the kde file chooser - though I don't imagine that would actually apply to OO, anyway. -- derek From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 14:51:56 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:51:56 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <1299236.dPVFmybBHp@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <1299236.dPVFmybBHp@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I >> can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. > > "as 2.4 did"? I never knew it could - and the file picker is the thing I > always hated most about OO. Menu Tools - Options and look somwhere for "use Openoffice file menus" or something and untick it. As I remember that is what I did once (removed 2.4... so cant check) > >> Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? > > Only Dotan's brainstorm and bug reports for making gtk apps use the kde > file chooser - though I don't imagine that would actually apply to OO, > anyway. Nope since it apparently does not use gtk according to google findings. Drats! Sinclair From gloonie at earthlink.net Tue Dec 2 15:03:59 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:03:59 -0500 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <1299236.dPVFmybBHp@cedar.serverforest.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 09:51:56 O. Sinclair wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I > >> can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. > > > > "as 2.4 did"? I never knew it could - and the file picker is the thing I > > always hated most about OO. > > Menu Tools - Options and look somwhere for "use Openoffice file menus" > or something and untick it. As I remember that is what I did once > (removed 2.4... so cant check) > > >> Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? > > > > Only Dotan's brainstorm and bug reports for making gtk apps use the kde > > file chooser - though I don't imagine that would actually apply to OO, > > anyway. > > Nope since it apparently does not use gtk according to google findings. > Drats! > > Sinclair FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) Regards, Glenn From barnaby at drofle.com Tue Dec 2 15:34:33 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:34:33 +0000 Subject: Firefox versions Message-ID: <49355589.7050903@drofle.com> When I recently installed Kubuntu Hardy I downloaded FF v 2. It has occurred to me to wonder .... I also have v3 in the repositories. Is it possible to have both versions installed at the same time and to choose which one to run? Or even, I suppose, to have both versions running at the same time? Thanks Neil Winchurst From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 16:09:55 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:09:55 +0200 Subject: Firefox versions In-Reply-To: <49355589.7050903@drofle.com> References: <49355589.7050903@drofle.com> Message-ID: <200812021809.56339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I also have v3 in the repositories. Is it possible to have both versions > installed at the same time and to choose which one to run? Yes. I installed 3 manually (downloaded from mozilla) and run it from my ~/bin directory. I made an icon for it with this command in it: /home/donn/bin/firefox/firefox -no-remote I also have profiles working and made a FF3 profile so I can now run FF2 and FF3 at the same time. You will have to fiddle with profile a little, they're odd. To get the profile screen, run : firefox -a blah Use 'blah' to get it to ask what profile you want. You can use any gobbeldygook as long as it's not a profile in the list. hth \d From barnaby at drofle.com Tue Dec 2 16:19:28 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:19:28 +0000 Subject: Firefox versions In-Reply-To: <200812021809.56339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <49355589.7050903@drofle.com> <200812021809.56339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49356010.1010801@drofle.com> Donn wrote: >> I also have v3 in the repositories. Is it possible to have both versions >> installed at the same time and to choose which one to run? > Yes. I installed 3 manually (downloaded from mozilla) and run it from my ~/bin > directory. I made an icon for it with this command in it: > /home/donn/bin/firefox/firefox -no-remote > Perhaps when you installed it manually you could choose where to install the file and place them somewhere other than the usual. I am wondering if, by installing v3 via Adept, I would be overwriting some of the v2 files. > I also have profiles working and made a FF3 profile so I can now run FF2 and > FF3 at the same time. You will have to fiddle with profile a little, they're > odd. > > To get the profile screen, run : > firefox -a blah > > Use 'blah' to get it to ask what profile you want. You can use any > gobbeldygook as long as it's not a profile in the list. > > hth > \d > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 2 16:19:49 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:19:49 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812020537i6d09b81cs8da06e28d9d07fdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812020537i6d09b81cs8da06e28d9d07fdd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49356025.8030706@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/11/29 Steven Vollom : > >> I am previewing a movie for my grandbabies. It is a Nancy Drew >> Mystery. I is a Rar file that has a file association of .bin. I >> Googled for the correct player which was Helix. I installed but the >> player does not work. It suggests it is missing bin . Can't find a >> missing dependency. >> >> Steven >> >> > > Please run "file" on the file so that we can verify what it is: > $ file mystery.bin > > Then paste the output here. > > I apologize. I forgot this post and was freeing up some space on it's partition, remembered the problem playing it, and deleted the Movie. My memory is getting worse. I am sorry I wasted you time. Thank you for troubling. Sincerely, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 2 16:44:30 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:44:30 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >> >>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>> >> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >> >> >> >> Nils >> >> > Great!!! > > Thanks much! > Eberhard > > > Dear Eberhard, When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to Microsoft and the Movie Industry) Steven From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Tue Dec 2 16:51:25 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:51:25 +0000 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> Nils Kassube wrote: >> >>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>> >>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>>> >>> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >>> >>> >>> >>> Nils >>> >>> >> Great!!! >> >> Thanks much! >> Eberhard >> >> >> > Dear Eberhard, > > When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the > website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still > stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license > fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine > Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please > explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to > Microsoft and the Movie Industry) > > Steven > The page is meant as a joke, I'd guess :) I. From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 2 17:11:14 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:11:14 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812021811.14952.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> iodine at runbox.no wrote: > >>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. > >>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such > >>> restrictions. So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D > >> > >> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: > >> > > When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the > website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still > stumped. The site is making fun of Microsoft's user annoyance program "Windows Genuine Advantage". Nils From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 17:28:52 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:28:52 +0100 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/2 O. Sinclair : > Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I > can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. > Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? > > Sinclair > I have Open office 3 and it using what looks like the KDE4 open/save dialog. Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General-> Open/save is unchecked. I do have one problem with it and it is that when open/saving a file the dialog opens up spanning the whole screen width and OO is not the only program doing that but i don't remember the other programs right now. / Jonas From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 2 17:30:14 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:30:14 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> Message-ID: Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>>> >>>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>>>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>>>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>>>> >>>> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nils >>>> >>>> >>> Great!!! >>> >>> Thanks much! >>> Eberhard >>> >>> >>> >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the >> website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still >> stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license >> fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine >> Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please >> explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to >> Microsoft and the Movie Industry) >> >> Steven >> > > The page is meant as a joke, I'd guess :) > I. > > > Dear Steven, great that you ask! You are absolutely correct. Kubuntu is free and you won't have to pay a license fee, as long as you use the software that comes with your Kubuntu DVD. Actually WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) is famous and over time it grew to be a synonym for "unfree software forcing it's users to pay" WGA became an abrevation for Microsofts way of doing business, which might be legally ok, but from a OpenSource perspective, it might look to be obscure. For a much more qualified description, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage Moreover, at some time, microsoft had technical problems with WGA which led to this: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070124-8690.html (WGA falsely accuses millions) Now, Linux-WGA is just a great joke. It claims that Linux Users migrating from windows will miss the Microsoft world in general and the WGA Trouble in particular. Now the latter is said to be cured by Linux WGA, so that your new Linux OS will behave like you know it from your old MS-OS. Again, it's just a professionally made joke, but it really made my day to read about it, outlining all the various facettes of WGA, and it's never ending "WGA is testing your installation to be legally valid" way of treating customers that paid good money for the OS and other software from Redmond. Kind regards Eberhard From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 17:31:50 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:31:50 +0100 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49357106.9010108@gmail.com> Ignazio Palmisano ha scritto: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>>> >>>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>>>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>>>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>>>> >>>> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nils >>>> >>>> >>> Great!!! >>> >>> Thanks much! >>> Eberhard >>> >>> >>> >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the >> website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still >> stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license >> fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine >> Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please >> explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to >> Microsoft and the Movie Industry) >> >> Steven >> > > The page is meant as a joke, I'd guess :) > I. > > > From the site: # Your computer, which worked just fine before, will continue functioning normally! Lovely! :-) -- lanzen From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 2 17:40:57 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:40:57 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49357329.9000904@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> >>> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>> >>>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>>>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>>>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nils >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Great!!! >>> >>> Thanks much! >>> Eberhard >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the >> website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still >> stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license >> fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine >> Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please >> explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to >> Microsoft and the Movie Industry) >> >> Steven >> >> > > The page is meant as a joke, I'd guess :) > I. > > > > I wonder if there will ever be a measurement for how stupid I can be. I never even knew about Windows Genuine Advantage. From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 17:43:13 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:43:13 -0500 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:03:59 am Glenn R Williams wrote: > FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: > > Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General > > In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use > OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) Same with 3.0, and works the same way as well for me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 2 17:47:02 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:47:02 -0500 Subject: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: References: <4931D340.5030703@sbcglobal.net> <1660614.Pry6CPTTC1@cedar.serverforest.com> <4934321E.4040206@runbox.no> <200812012232.55197.kassube@gmx.net> <493565EE.6050601@sbcglobal.net> <4935678D.3020000@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49357496.4060308@sbcglobal.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> >>>> Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> iodine at runbox.no wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> WGA is implemented in XP also. It can be a major annoyance. >>>>>> But I reckon it's a big plus for Linux, which has no such restrictions. >>>>>> So I'm glad MS is keeping it up ! :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You can have something similar to WGA for Linux if you want: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nils >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Great!!! >>>> >>>> Thanks much! >>>> Eberhard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Dear Eberhard, >>> >>> When you have time only, but what is this email about. I went to the >>> website that Nils included and read what was there, however, I am still >>> stumped. Isn't kubuntu free? Am I supposed to pay someone a license >>> fee? Sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand what Linux Genuine >>> Advantage is about. I don't want to cheat anyone anymore, so please >>> explain. (two exceptions, I have no conscience when it comes to >>> Microsoft and the Movie Industry) >>> >>> Steven >>> >>> >> The page is meant as a joke, I'd guess :) >> I. >> >> >> >> > Dear Steven, > > great that you ask! > > You are absolutely correct. Kubuntu is free and you won't have to pay a > license fee, as long as you use the software that comes with your > Kubuntu DVD. > > Actually WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) is famous and over time it grew > to be a synonym for "unfree software > forcing it's users to pay" > > WGA became an abrevation for Microsofts way of doing business, which > might be legally ok, but from a OpenSource perspective, it might look to > be obscure. > > For a much more qualified description, see here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage > > Moreover, at some time, microsoft had technical problems with WGA which > led to this: > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070124-8690.html > (WGA falsely accuses millions) > > Now, Linux-WGA is just a great joke. > > It claims that Linux Users migrating from windows will miss the > Microsoft world in general and the WGA Trouble in particular. > > Now the latter is said to be cured by Linux WGA, so that your new Linux > OS will behave like you know it from your old MS-OS. > > Again, it's just a professionally made joke, but it really made my day > to read about it, outlining all the various facettes of WGA, and it's > never ending "WGA is testing your installation to be legally valid" way > of treating customers that paid good money for the OS and other software > from Redmond. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > You take too much time for me, my friend. I have started trying to change over to Konqueror instead of Firefox. I know it just takes a little getting used to to gain its advantages; I noticed one thing this morning that was interesting. One click to add a bookmark; you lose some options, but I think better anyway. Have a great day, Steven From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 2 17:53:48 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:48 -0600 Subject: Sound problem on Hardy Message-ID: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> I have a laptop using the Intel 80281DB sound chip. I've installed Kubuntu Hardy on it and have no sound at all. I've been to alsamixer and checked the sound levels. I also found the threads that said to turn on the external amplifier and then turn it off. The only way I found to do this was to go to alsamixer, turn on the external switch, then "alsactl store 0", then go to alsamixer, turn the switch off, then again "alactl store 0". I still have no sound. Can anyone offer me any help with this? From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Tue Dec 2 18:45:25 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:45:25 +0100 Subject: Sound problem on Hardy In-Reply-To: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812021945.25908.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 18:53, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I have a laptop using the Intel 80281DB sound chip. I've installed Kubuntu > Hardy on it and have no sound at all. I've been to alsamixer and checked > the sound levels. I also found the threads that said to turn on the > external amplifier and then turn it off. The only way I found to do this > was to go to alsamixer, turn on the external switch, then "alsactl store > 0", then go to alsamixer, turn the switch off, then again "alactl store 0". > I still have no sound. > > Can anyone offer me any help with this? Hi Michael. What is the make/model of your laptop? Is this a very new model of laptop? The soundcard is obviously being detected, as otherwise you'd have no access to alsamixer. A bit of info please as below. cat /proc/asound/version cat /proc/asound/cards lspci -vn (just the bit for the soundcard) lsmod | grep snd grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* (you may get no output from this) You could also save the script from the link below as, alsa-info.sh, then make it executable, and run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Post back the link to the website where the data has been uploaded to. This can be valuable info for the alsa developers if your machine is very new, and not yet supported. http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh All the best. Nigel. From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 2 20:09:57 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:09:57 -0600 Subject: Sound problem on Hardy In-Reply-To: <200812021945.25908.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> <200812021945.25908.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200812021409.58063.michael@weblore.com> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:45:25 pm Nigel Henry wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 18:53, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I have a laptop using the Intel 80281DB sound chip. I've installed > > Kubuntu Hardy on it and have no sound at all. I've been to alsamixer and > > checked the sound levels. I also found the threads that said to turn on > > the external amplifier and then turn it off. The only way I found to do > > this was to go to alsamixer, turn on the external switch, then "alsactl > > store 0", then go to alsamixer, turn the switch off, then again "alactl > > store 0". I still have no sound. > > > > Can anyone offer me any help with this? > > Hi Michael. > > What is the make/model of your laptop? Is this a very new model of laptop? It's not a new laptop. It's a Gateway MX3042. > > The soundcard is obviously being detected, as otherwise you'd have no > access to alsamixer. > > A bit of info please as below. > > cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. Compiled on Nov 25 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-22-generic (SMP). > cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at irq 17 > lspci -vn (just the bit for the soundcard) Here's the output. The part for the soundcard isn't obvious to me, so I've included all of it: 00:00.0 0600: 8086:3580 (rev 02) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at (32-bit, prefetchable) Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information 00:00.1 0880: 8086:3584 (rev 02) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 00:00.3 0880: 8086:3585 (rev 02) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 00:02.0 0300: 8086:3582 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] I/O ports at 1800 [size=8] Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 00:02.1 0380: 8086:3582 (rev 02) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at e0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24c2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at 1820 [size=32] 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24c4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 1840 [size=32] 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24c7 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at 1860 [size=32] 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24cd (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 Memory at e0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] Debug port 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev 83) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=06, sec-latency=216 Memory behind bridge: e0200000-e02fffff 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24cc (rev 03) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24ca (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at 1810 [size=16] Memory at 30000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24c3 (rev 03) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 1880 [size=32] 00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 03) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256] I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64] Memory at e0100c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Memory at e0100800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 00:1f.6 0703: 8086:24c6 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) Subsystem: 161f:2030 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 17 I/O ports at 2400 [size=256] I/O ports at 2000 [size=128] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 02:07.0 0607: 104c:8031 Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 16 Memory at e020b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176 Memory window 0: 34000000-37fff000 (prefetchable) Memory window 1: 38000000-3bfff000 I/O window 0: 00001400-000014ff I/O window 1: 00002800-000028ff 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 02:07.2 0c00: 104c:8032 (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at e020a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] Memory at e0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 02:07.3 0180: 104c:8033 Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 57, IRQ 16 Memory at e0204000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 02:08.0 0200: 14e4:170c (rev 02) Subsystem: 161f:203e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 Memory at e0206000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 02:09.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02) Subsystem: 14e4:0449 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 Memory at e0208000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 35356 2 snd_ac97_codec 101028 1 snd_intel8x0 ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss 42144 0 snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 78596 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_dummy 4868 0 snd_seq_oss 35584 0 snd_seq_midi 9376 0 snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd 56996 15 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 8800 1 snd snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm > grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* (you may get no output from this) No output. > > You could also save the script from the link below as, alsa-info.sh, then > make it executable, and run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Post back the link to > the website where the data has been uploaded to. This can be valuable info > for the alsa developers if your machine is very new, and not yet supported. > > http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh This script doesn't make it easy to collect the output (it seems to upload it to the alsa site - and I'm not sure which URL that would be. My laptop / sound card isn't new, though, so this may not be an issue. Thanks for any help you can give me. ---Michael From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Tue Dec 2 22:00:03 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:00:03 +0100 Subject: Sound problem on Hardy In-Reply-To: <200812021409.58063.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> <200812021945.25908.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <200812021409.58063.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812022300.03371.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 21:09, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:45:25 pm Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 18:53, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > I have a laptop using the Intel 80281DB sound chip. I've installed > > > Kubuntu Hardy on it and have no sound at all. I've been to alsamixer > > > and checked the sound levels. I also found the threads that said to > > > turn on the external amplifier and then turn it off. The only way I > > > found to do this was to go to alsamixer, turn on the external switch, > > > then "alsactl store 0", then go to alsamixer, turn the switch off, then > > > again "alactl store 0". I still have no sound. > > > > > > Can anyone offer me any help with this? > > > > Hi Michael. > > > > What is the make/model of your laptop? Is this a very new model of > > laptop? > > It's not a new laptop. It's a Gateway MX3042. > > > The soundcard is obviously being detected, as otherwise you'd have no > > access to alsamixer. > > > > A bit of info please as below. > > > > cat /proc/asound/version > > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. > Compiled on Nov 25 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-22-generic (SMP). > > > cat /proc/asound/cards > > 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 > Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at irq 17 > > > lspci -vn (just the bit for the soundcard) > > Here's the output. The part for the soundcard isn't obvious to me, so I've > included all of it: Hi Michael. it isn't obvious to me either, although the output from /proc/asound/cards above, shows the soundcard as detected. > > 00:00.0 0600: 8086:3580 (rev 02) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Memory at (32-bit, prefetchable) > Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information > > 00:00.1 0880: 8086:3584 (rev 02) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > 00:00.3 0880: 8086:3585 (rev 02) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > 00:02.0 0300: 8086:3582 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] > I/O ports at 1800 [size=8] > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 > > 00:02.1 0380: 8086:3582 (rev 02) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > Memory at e0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 > > 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24c2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > I/O ports at 1820 [size=32] > > 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24c4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 > I/O ports at 1840 [size=32] > > 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24c7 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 > I/O ports at 1860 [size=32] > > 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24cd (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 > Memory at e0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > Capabilities: [58] Debug port > > 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev 83) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=06, sec-latency=216 > Memory behind bridge: e0200000-e02fffff > > 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24cc (rev 03) > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 > > 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24ca (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 > I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] > I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] > I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] > I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] > I/O ports at 1810 [size=16] > Memory at 30000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] > > 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24c3 (rev 03) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 > I/O ports at 1880 [size=32] > > 00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 03) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 > I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256] > I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64] > Memory at e0100c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] > Memory at e0100800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > 00:1f.6 0703: 8086:24c6 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) > Subsystem: 161f:2030 > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 17 > I/O ports at 2400 [size=256] > I/O ports at 2000 [size=128] > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > 02:07.0 0607: 104c:8031 > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 16 > Memory at e020b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176 > Memory window 0: 34000000-37fff000 (prefetchable) > Memory window 1: 38000000-3bfff000 > I/O window 0: 00001400-000014ff > I/O window 1: 00002800-000028ff > 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 > > 02:07.2 0c00: 104c:8032 (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 > Memory at e020a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] > Memory at e0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 > > 02:07.3 0180: 104c:8033 > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 57, IRQ 16 > Memory at e0204000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 > > 02:08.0 0200: 14e4:170c (rev 02) > Subsystem: 161f:203e > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 > Memory at e0206000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 > > 02:09.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02) > Subsystem: 14e4:0449 > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 > Memory at e0208000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > > > lsmod | grep snd > > snd_intel8x0 35356 2 > snd_ac97_codec 101028 1 snd_intel8x0 > ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec > snd_pcm_oss 42144 0 > snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss > snd_pcm 78596 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss > snd_seq_dummy 4868 0 > snd_seq_oss 35584 0 > snd_seq_midi 9376 0 > snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi > snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi > snd_seq 54224 6 > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event > snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq > snd_seq_device 9612 5 > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq > snd 56996 15 > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy >,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore > 8800 1 snd > snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm > > > grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* (you may get no output from > > this) > > No output. > > > You could also save the script from the link below as, alsa-info.sh, then > > make it executable, and run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Post back the link to > > the website where the data has been uploaded to. This can be valuable > > info for the alsa developers if your machine is very new, and not yet > > supported. > > > > http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh > > This script doesn't make it easy to collect the output (it seems to upload > it to the alsa site - and I'm not sure which URL that would be. My laptop / > sound card isn't new, though, so this may not be an issue. I think we need the link to where the data has been uploaded to, after running the script. When you run the script from Gnomes terminal, it should show a link to a website when the script has run to completion. Just paste the link back in your reply. > > Thanks for any help you can give me. > > ---Michael All the best, and hoping to get your sounds working. Nigel. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Tue Dec 2 22:33:28 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:33:28 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines Message-ID: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> I have just discovered the usefulness of the search engine available to konqueror for searching Ubuntu Community Docs Search. How thoroughly useful! Despite having a nightmare earlier today trying to get KMail accounts set up and working which I have since managed, (although KMail keeps messing about with the 'mail transport' to be used, which thoroughly confuses me), I'm having fun with this. I'm really impressed once again by Kubuntu. Thankyou developers and contributors. nepal From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 2 22:34:23 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:34:23 -0600 Subject: Sound problem on Hardy In-Reply-To: <200812022300.03371.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200812021153.48675.michael@weblore.com> <200812021409.58063.michael@weblore.com> <200812022300.03371.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200812021634.23547.michael@weblore.com> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 04:00:03 pm Nigel Henry wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 21:09, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:45:25 pm Nigel Henry wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 18:53, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > > I have a laptop using the Intel 80281DB sound chip. I've installed > > > > Kubuntu Hardy on it and have no sound at all. I've been to alsamixer > > > > and checked the sound levels. I also found the threads that said to > > > > turn on the external amplifier and then turn it off. The only way I > > > > found to do this was to go to alsamixer, turn on the external switch, > > > > then "alsactl store 0", then go to alsamixer, turn the switch off, > > > > then again "alactl store 0". I still have no sound. > > > > > > > > Can anyone offer me any help with this? > > > > > > Hi Michael. > > > > > > What is the make/model of your laptop? Is this a very new model of > > > laptop? > > > > It's not a new laptop. It's a Gateway MX3042. > > > > > The soundcard is obviously being detected, as otherwise you'd have no > > > access to alsamixer. > > > > > > A bit of info please as below. > > > > > > cat /proc/asound/version > > > > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. > > Compiled on Nov 25 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-22-generic (SMP). > > > > > cat /proc/asound/cards > > > > 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 > > Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at irq 17 > > > > > lspci -vn (just the bit for the soundcard) > > > > Here's the output. The part for the soundcard isn't obvious to me, so > > I've included all of it: > > Hi Michael. it isn't obvious to me either, although the output > from /proc/asound/cards above, shows the soundcard as detected. > > > 00:00.0 0600: 8086:3580 (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > Memory at (32-bit, prefetchable) > > Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information > > > > 00:00.1 0880: 8086:3584 (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > > > 00:00.3 0880: 8086:3585 (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > > > 00:02.0 0300: 8086:3582 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > > Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > > Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] > > I/O ports at 1800 [size=8] > > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 > > > > 00:02.1 0380: 8086:3582 (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > > Memory at e0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] > > Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 > > > > 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24c2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > > I/O ports at 1820 [size=32] > > > > 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24c4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 > > I/O ports at 1840 [size=32] > > > > 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24c7 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 > > I/O ports at 1860 [size=32] > > > > 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24cd (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 > > Memory at e0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] > > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > Capabilities: [58] Debug port > > > > 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev 83) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 > > Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=06, sec-latency=216 > > Memory behind bridge: e0200000-e02fffff > > > > 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24cc (rev 03) > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 > > > > 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24ca (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 > > I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] > > I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] > > I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] > > I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] > > I/O ports at 1810 [size=16] > > Memory at 30000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] > > > > 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24c3 (rev 03) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 > > I/O ports at 1880 [size=32] > > > > 00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 03) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 > > I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256] > > I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64] > > Memory at e0100c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] > > Memory at e0100800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] > > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > > > 00:1f.6 0703: 8086:24c6 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) > > Subsystem: 161f:2030 > > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 17 > > I/O ports at 2400 [size=256] > > I/O ports at 2000 [size=128] > > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > > > > 02:07.0 0607: 104c:8031 > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 16 > > Memory at e020b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > > Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176 > > Memory window 0: 34000000-37fff000 (prefetchable) > > Memory window 1: 38000000-3bfff000 > > I/O window 0: 00001400-000014ff > > I/O window 1: 00002800-000028ff > > 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 > > > > 02:07.2 0c00: 104c:8032 (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 > > Memory at e020a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] > > Memory at e0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] > > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 > > > > 02:07.3 0180: 104c:8033 > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 57, IRQ 16 > > Memory at e0204000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 > > > > 02:08.0 0200: 14e4:170c (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 161f:203e > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 > > Memory at e0206000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > > Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 > > > > 02:09.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02) > > Subsystem: 14e4:0449 > > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 > > Memory at e0208000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] > > > > > lsmod | grep snd > > > > snd_intel8x0 35356 2 > > snd_ac97_codec 101028 1 snd_intel8x0 > > ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec > > snd_pcm_oss 42144 0 > > snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss > > snd_pcm 78596 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss > > snd_seq_dummy 4868 0 > > snd_seq_oss 35584 0 > > snd_seq_midi 9376 0 > > snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi > > snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi > > snd_seq 54224 6 > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event > > snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq > > snd_seq_device 9612 5 > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq > > snd 56996 15 > > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dum > >my ,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore > > 8800 1 snd > > snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm > > > > > grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* (you may get no output from > > > this) > > > > No output. > > > > > You could also save the script from the link below as, alsa-info.sh, > > > then make it executable, and run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Post back the > > > link to the website where the data has been uploaded to. This can be > > > valuable info for the alsa developers if your machine is very new, and > > > not yet supported. > > > > > > http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh Here's the link. Again, I really *DO* appreciate your help here. Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e2b0f2129abd97d37188826751e20751fb8a0e5 From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 23:04:01 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:04:01 +0100 Subject: Strange behavior with keyboard and mouse in 8.10 Message-ID: Hi! During the last days, perhaps sins the upgrade to the 2.6.27-9 kernel i have some strange errors with with my Kubuntu 8.10. For some reason the keyboard suddenly start to behave strange for example i cant switch VC with the ctrl+alt+fx keys or in konsole running apt or aptitude it stops and looks like it's waiting for input but nothing happens when pressing any key, and the process is impossibly to kill. And just now when switching back to my main VC with a KDE session, my left click started to acting like a alt+left click. Deactivating desktop effects restored my left click to normal. When i can't switch VC running xev shows that pressing ctrl+alt+fx do generate a "keycode 73 (keysym 0x1008fe07, XF86_Switch_VT_7)" so it looks like it's nothing wrong with my keyboard. Anyone else seen some strange related error lately? / Jonas From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 00:11:30 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:11:30 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> nepal wrote: > I have just discovered the usefulness of the search engine available to > konqueror for searching Ubuntu Community Docs Search. How thoroughly useful! > > Despite having a nightmare earlier today trying to get KMail accounts set up > and working which I have since managed, (although KMail keeps messing about > with the 'mail transport' to be used, which thoroughly confuses me), I'm > having fun with this. I'm really impressed once again by Kubuntu. Thankyou > developers and contributors. > > nepal > > Dear Nepal, I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. Steven From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 02:26:52 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:26:52 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812021826q29c2aecl2f6189c91e271600@mail.gmail.com> Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing apt and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the error. I am quite new at this and quite ignorant. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Dec 3 03:18:51 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:18:51 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy won't play .bin movie? In-Reply-To: <4934E095.5070601@web.de> References: <49317583.7000207@sbcglobal.net> <49340379.8060001@sbcglobal.net> <4934E095.5070601@web.de> Message-ID: <200812022218.51828.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 02 December 2008, Octavian Florea wrote: > Very odd, I have never met a .bin video file before. After a bit of > reading I found that vlc and mplayer could play such files, with mixed > results. Have you tried mplayer? > You said it appeared as an archive. Try opening it with Ark or use rar > directly from the command line if you have it installed. If it can list > its contents then it's an image. Or perhaps it is a self-extracting file such as the GoogleEarth files, which come to you as a .bin file. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 03:22:10 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:22:10 +1000 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list Message-ID: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Showing us the error would help a lot. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ --- Original message --- Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list From: uriah heep To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing apt and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the error. I am quite new at this and quite ignorant. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 3 03:25:09 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:25:09 +0000 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 >> From: iodine at runbox.no >> Subject: Re: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >> Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206 at runbox.no> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> >>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>>> >>>>> >>> kpat >>> >>> >>> > That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks > like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself > brian > > There's a program called Spider: wulfy at wulfy-desktop:~$ apt-cache show spider Package: spider Priority: optional Section: universe/games Installed-Size: 444 Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers Original-Maintainer: Dale Scheetz (Dwarf #1) Architecture: amd64 Version: 1.2-4ubuntu2 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libsm6, libx11-6, libxaw7, libxext6, libxmu6, libxpm4, libxt6 Filename: pool/universe/s/spider/spider_1.2-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb Size: 118406 MD5sum: 14c833e180582830fb3e072f191db02d SHA1: 588f5c5eb00a6ea312489a88914b239a09206cd1 SHA256: 9fbad00f2ef682359de1184b1b356bf6ae677351f0186166efe642f38cbf4bd0 Description: A two deck solitaire game for the X Window System Spider is delivered in two forms: small.spider is for systems without high resolution screens so the board will fit on the screen; round.spider has prettier card backs but takes up more room on the screen. . The default is round.spider. If you wish to use small.spider, either call it directly, or change the link /usr/games/spider to point to small.spider instead of round.spider. Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Origin: Ubuntu It might be what you're looking for... :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 03:54:04 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:54:04 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493602DC.8010406@gmail.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:03:59 am Glenn R Williams wrote: >> FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: >> >> Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General >> >> In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use >> OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) > > Same with 3.0, and works the same way as well for me. > Weird, I don't have that option in 3.0 but I know I had it in 2.4... From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 04:31:10 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:31:10 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, wrote: > Showing us the error would help a lot. > > > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > --- Original message --- > Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > From: uriah heep > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM > > Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing apt and > synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the error. I am > quite new at this and quite ignorant. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Here it is E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report. >From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do not know how to edit the file. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 04:53:45 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:53:45 -0500 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. Message-ID: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> Are there free Proxy Servers? Can a person still use a torrent program, and use it safely? Does a Proxy Server provide similar benefit to a firewall? Is the setup easy enough for a newbie? Will a Proxy Server work through a Router? I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal through my router, then relax internal security. I am looking for the best way to achieve this. Thanks in advance. Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially my friends, Steven From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 3 05:28:54 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:28:54 +0100 Subject: Strange behavior with keyboard and mouse in 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812030628.54856.kassube@gmx.net> Jonas Norlander wrote: > During the last days, perhaps sins the upgrade to the 2.6.27-9 kernel > i have some strange errors with with my Kubuntu 8.10. > For some reason the keyboard suddenly start to behave strange for > example i cant switch VC with the ctrl+alt+fx keys or in konsole It seems you have activated stickey / slow keys inadvertently. Go to System Settings -> Accessibility. At the tab "Modifier Keys uncheck "Use sticky keys", at the tab "Keyboard Filters" uncheck "Use slow keys" and at the tab "Activation Gestures" uncheck "Use gestures for activating sticky kkeys and slow keys". Well, that was for Kubuntu 8.04 but it is very similar for 8.10. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 05:42:46 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:42:46 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> Wulfy wrote: > Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 >>> From: iodine at runbox.no >>> Subject: Re: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** >>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >>> Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206 at runbox.no> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> kpat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks >> like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself >> brian >> >> >> > There's a program called Spider: > > wulfy at wulfy-desktop:~$ apt-cache show > spider > Package: > spider > Priority: > optional > Section: > universe/games > Installed-Size: > 444 > Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers > > Original-Maintainer: Dale Scheetz (Dwarf #1) > > Architecture: > amd64 > Version: 1.2-4ubuntu2 > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libsm6, libx11-6, > libxaw7, libxext6, libxmu6, libxpm4, libxt6 > Filename: pool/universe/s/spider/spider_1.2-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb > Size: 118406 > MD5sum: 14c833e180582830fb3e072f191db02d > SHA1: 588f5c5eb00a6ea312489a88914b239a09206cd1 > SHA256: 9fbad00f2ef682359de1184b1b356bf6ae677351f0186166efe642f38cbf4bd0 > Description: A two deck solitaire game for the X Window System > Spider is delivered in two forms: small.spider is for systems without high > resolution screens so the board will fit on the screen; round.spider has > prettier card backs but takes up more room on the screen. > . > The default is round.spider. If you wish to use small.spider, either call > it directly, or change the link /usr/games/spider to point to > small.spider instead of round.spider. > Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Origin: Ubuntu > > It might be what you're looking for... :@) > > I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager Steven From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Wed Dec 3 05:44:37 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:44:37 +0000 Subject: help needed to use yahoo2mbox script Message-ID: <200812030544.37168.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Can anyone offer some handholding help to use this script. I have lost the posts to my yahoo group (which I own) and the only software I can find that will retrieve all the messages for the group is Yahoo2mbox, a perl script. There is a manpage for it but I'm not sure about using the options and parameters. I've pasted the manpage below. The script itself is aprox 31kb which I could send offlist if necessary. I have all the dependencies installed. Any offers please? What I do get (maybe) is as follows the command structure is yahoo2mbox [options] [-o ] -o mbox, does this have to exist? Looking at the resume/noresume options, it sounds like it will create the mbox file. If not can I just create an empty mbox file within KMail and use that? ok, even I can get that one. ;) [options] --user=name this would be the owner name I use for the group? --pass=pass and the list owners password that I use? --x-delay=n not sure what the Yahoo bytes/hour download limit is, I understand the meaning. so not sure about this. There are less than 500 messages but some have quite large attachments. Although my understanding is that yahoo doesn't archive attachments, which does not really matter, it is just the messages themselves that I'd like to retrieve. would just setting those options be enough to retrieve the messages? any help would be greatly appreciated. ============================================ NAME yahoo2mbox - Retrieve and store Yahoo! Groups messages DESCRIPTION yahoo2mbox Retrieves all messages in the archive of the given group from Yahoo and stores them in the specified local MBOX file. If the file exists, the messages not already in the file are appended to it. OPTIONS yahoo2mbox [options] [-o ] --help give the usage message showing the program options --version show the program version and exit --verbose give verbose informational messages (default) --quiet be silent, only error messages are given -o mbox save the message to mbox instead of file named groupname --start=n start retrieving messages at index n instead of 1 --end=n stop retrieving messages at index n instead of the last one --last=n retrieve last n messages from the list --resume resumes previously interrupted downloading, needed if --start is used, otherwise is automatic if mailbox already exists --noresume don't resume, overwrites the existing output file if any --user=name login to eGroups using this username (default: guest login) --pass=pass the password to use for login (default: none) --cookies=xxx file to use to store cookies (default: none, 'netscape' uses netscape cookies file). --proxy=url use the given proxy, if 'no' don't use proxy at all (even not the environment variable http_proxy which is used by default), may use http://username:password at full.host.name/ notation --country=xx use the given country code in order to access localized yahoo groups (default: none; supported: ar,br,de,dk,es,fr,it,mx) --x-yahoo add X-Yahoo-Message-Num header to the downloaded messages --x-delay=n sleep for n seconds between each message request (may be used allow the script to run continuously without hitting the Yahoo bytes/hour download limit) ============================================ nepal From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 3 05:55:27 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:55:27 +0000 Subject: Auto play DVDs? Message-ID: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> Kubuntu Intrepid. How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere can I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and camera) but not devices I *do* have! -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 3 06:22:30 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:22:30 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > Are there free Proxy Servers? If you mean a proxy server on the net to disguise your IP, try . If you mean a program to run on your machine, there are many. Depending on your needs you may consider squid, wwwoffle, anon-proxy, privoxy, just to mention a few. > Can a person still use a torrent > program, and use it safely? Sure, why not? And what do you mean with "safely"? > Does a Proxy Server provide similar > benefit to a firewall? A firewall can do many more things than a proxy server. See > Is the setup easy enough for a newbie? That depends on what type of proxy you are speaking of. If it is a proxy somewhere on the net you usually only have to set the IP address and port in your browser. If it is a program on your machine it depends on the program. > Will a > Proxy Server work through a Router? Yes. > I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal > through my router, then relax internal security. From your previous posts I know you are the only one on your local network. Therefore I think you don't need to worry about "incoming internet signal" if your router can work as a firewall which blocks incoming connections. Check the router setup page if that is possible. Then again, there are things like phishing emails which can't be reliably blocked by a firewall or proxy. There you'd better rely on your brain. Nils From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Wed Dec 3 06:30:48 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 01:30:48 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > E: The list of sources could not be read. > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do > not know how to edit the file. If you're using Dolphin in KDE 3.5.10 go to /etc/apt/ and right click on sources.list. Select Actions > Edit as root. Type in your password and KWrite should open allowing you to edit and save sources.list. If not, you could open Konsole, cd to /etc/apt and type kdesudo kate source.list or kdesudo kwrite source.list input your password, edit, and save. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Does fuzzy logic tickle? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 06:53:00 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:53:00 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49362CCC.5050800@gmail.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:03:59 am Glenn R Williams wrote: >> FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: >> >> Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General >> >> In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use >> OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) > > Same with 3.0, and works the same way as well for me. > Did you install from the ppa repos and are you on 8.04 or 8.10? I installed from the downloadable deb-file and I do no HAVE that option in 3.0 From miron.florea at web.de Wed Dec 3 07:20:25 2008 From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:20:25 +0200 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <49363339.10102@web.de> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: >> E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list >> E: The list of sources could not be read. >> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. >> E: _cache->open() failed, please report. >> >> From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do >> not know how to edit the file. >> You may not have to delete the entire line. I think you put a wget in front of the repository address. It should start with a deb (or deb-src). From nogales.manuel at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 07:23:00 2008 From: nogales.manuel at gmail.com (Manuel Nogales) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:23:00 +0100 Subject: Firefox versions In-Reply-To: <49356010.1010801@drofle.com> References: <49355589.7050903@drofle.com> <200812021809.56339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <49356010.1010801@drofle.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/2 Neil Winchurst > Donn wrote: > >> I also have v3 in the repositories. Is it possible to have both versions > >> installed at the same time and to choose which one to run? > > > Yes. I installed 3 manually (downloaded from mozilla) and run it from my > ~/bin > > directory. I made an icon for it with this command in it: > > /home/donn/bin/firefox/firefox -no-remote > > > Perhaps when you installed it manually you could choose where to install > the file and place them somewhere other than the usual. I am wondering > if, by installing v3 via Adept, I would be overwriting some of the v2 > files. You can install both version without problems, only that to run firefox v2 you have to use firefox2-bin instead of firefox. I have this set up in Kubuntu 8.04. > > > > > > I also have profiles working and made a FF3 profile so I can now run FF2 > and > > FF3 at the same time. You will have to fiddle with profile a little, > they're > > odd. > > > > To get the profile screen, run : > > firefox -a blah > > > > Use 'blah' to get it to ask what profile you want. You can use any > > gobbeldygook as long as it's not a profile in the list. > > > > hth > > \d > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Manuel Nogales Tejado nogales.manuel at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There really is nothing in windoze to miss except perhaps all that aggravation and of course all that extra fun of viruses! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 07:34:19 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:34:19 +0100 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: >> > I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager > > Steven > Hi Steven, when looking there, you better know the name. So Synaptic might be better suited for your needs, since it allows you to graphically search for things. KPatience is in a package called "kpat": sudo aptitude install kpat If you do not have synaptic: sudo aptitude install synaptic kind regards Eberhard From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 07:38:26 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:38:26 -0500 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Are there free Proxy Servers? >> > > If you mean a proxy server on the net to disguise your IP, try > . If you mean a > program to run on your machine, there are many. Depending on your needs > you may consider squid, wwwoffle, anon-proxy, privoxy, just to mention a > few. > > >> Can a person still use a torrent >> program, and use it safely? >> > > Sure, why not? And what do you mean with "safely"? > When I read that now, it doesn't make any sense. I can't remember what was going through my mind. I think I meant without losing important stuff; if it is like a filter, you lose things sometimes you'd rather not lose. > >> Does a Proxy Server provide similar >> benefit to a firewall? >> > > A firewall can do many more things than a proxy server. See > > > Is a firewall just a complex password protected incoming signal. I am sure my imagination sees it wrong. I have never heard it explained, I have just heard the word firewall. > >> Is the setup easy enough for a newbie? >> > > That depends on what type of proxy you are speaking of. If it is a proxy > somewhere on the net you usually only have to set the IP address and port > in your browser. If it is a program on your machine it depends on the > program. > If the ones that cost are better, I need one that is cheap. If the free ones work OK, do they increase the security provided by a firewall. Does a good firewall work as well without a proxy server? > >> Will a >> Proxy Server work through a Router? >> > > Yes. > > >> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >> through my router, then relax internal security. >> > > >From your previous posts I know you are the only one on your local > network. Therefore I think you don't need to worry about "incoming > internet signal" if your router can work as a firewall which blocks > incoming connections. Check the router setup page if that is possible. > Then again, there are things like phishing emails which can't be reliably > blocked by a firewall or proxy. There you'd better rely on your brain. > I followed their instruction pretty well, because it worked. I have no idea what I did. I just followed instructions. I really would like to understand this aspect of computing. My new computer will start fresh without all the mistakes and insecurities as this one. And, I would like to be reasonably secure from now on. Thanks! Nils > > Nils > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 07:41:48 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:41:48 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <200812022327.02364.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <200812022327.02364.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <4936383C.7010802@sbcglobal.net> Pastor JW wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 1:32:10 am Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 >>> From: iodine at runbox.no >>> Subject: Re: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** >>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >>> Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206 at runbox.no> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >>>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>>>> >>>> kpat >>>> >> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks >> like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself >> brian >> > > KPatience is a different game, various games of Spider are found in > AisleRiot, ...it also has Freecell and many more types of Solitaire! There > really is nothing in windoze to miss except perhaps all that aggravation and > of course all that extra fun of viruses! > > I used to play and enjoy the Spider Solitaire version with two suits. The most difficult was not fun, because it was too long between victories for me. On suit was too easy. Two suits and I won perhaps 80% working at a very fast pace. I used it to exercise my memory. My memory is going and I don't like it. Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 07:51:02 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:51:02 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49363A66.5030906@sbcglobal.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >>> >>> >> I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager >> >> Steven >> >> > > Hi Steven, > > when looking there, you better know the name. > > So Synaptic might be better suited for your needs, since it allows you > to graphically search for things. > > KPatience is in a package called "kpat": > sudo aptitude install kpat > > If you do not have synaptic: > sudo aptitude install synaptic > > kind regards > Eberhard > > > > > > I am laughing again. I already had kpat installed. Occasionally I play the solitaire game it opens with. I never searched it's possibilities. It has just what I wanted. Medium Spider. Thanks again friend. Steven From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 08:02:01 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:02:01 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> Are there free Proxy Servers? >>> >> If you mean a proxy server on the net to disguise your IP, try >> . If you mean a >> program to run on your machine, there are many. Depending on your needs >> you may consider squid, wwwoffle, anon-proxy, privoxy, just to mention a >> few. >> >> >>> Can a person still use a torrent >>> program, and use it safely? >>> >> Sure, why not? And what do you mean with "safely"? >> > When I read that now, it doesn't make any sense. I can't remember what > was going through my mind. I think I meant without losing important > stuff; if it is like a filter, you lose things sometimes you'd rather > not lose. >> >>> Does a Proxy Server provide similar >>> benefit to a firewall? >>> >> A firewall can do many more things than a proxy server. See >> >> >> > Is a firewall just a complex password protected incoming signal. I am > sure my imagination sees it wrong. I have never heard it explained, I > have just heard the word firewall. >> >>> Is the setup easy enough for a newbie? >>> >> That depends on what type of proxy you are speaking of. If it is a proxy >> somewhere on the net you usually only have to set the IP address and port >> in your browser. If it is a program on your machine it depends on the >> program. >> > If the ones that cost are better, I need one that is cheap. If the free > ones work OK, do they increase the security provided by a firewall. > Does a good firewall work as well without a proxy server? >> >>> Will a >>> Proxy Server work through a Router? >>> >> Yes. >> >> >>> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >>> through my router, then relax internal security. >>> >> >From your previous posts I know you are the only one on your local >> network. Therefore I think you don't need to worry about "incoming >> internet signal" if your router can work as a firewall which blocks >> incoming connections. Check the router setup page if that is possible. >> Then again, there are things like phishing emails which can't be reliably >> blocked by a firewall or proxy. There you'd better rely on your brain. >> > I followed their instruction pretty well, because it worked. I have no > idea what I did. I just followed instructions. I really would like to > understand this aspect of computing. My new computer will start fresh > without all the mistakes and insecurities as this one. And, I would > like to be reasonably secure from now on. > > Thanks! Nils >> Nils >> >> > > Hi Steven, basically your router acts as a device that translates between your private network (ex. 192.168.1.x) and the Internet. This offers you a good deal of privacy since your private network cannot be seen and cannot be exploited from the internet. Moreover the firewall that is integrated into your router should ensure that no incoming traffic is handled which you did not previously initiate from the inside. This most often is setup by default. Generally a firewall handles traffic by looking at each IP packet, applying a rule set to it and act accordingly. A proxy in contrast is an application that acts "on your behalf" in regard to internet communication. They are generally not related, although it often makes sense to install them in common. So you can safely rely on your router/firewall, have fun with your new machine and feel adequately safe. Kind regards Eberhard From barnaby at drofle.com Wed Dec 3 08:19:31 2008 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:19:31 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > > I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for > months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only > receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to > Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the > differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. > > Steven > My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their computer up their way so easily. Neil From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 08:31:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:31:47 -0500 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Nils Kassube wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Are there free Proxy Servers? >>>> >>>> >>> If you mean a proxy server on the net to disguise your IP, try >>> . If you mean a >>> program to run on your machine, there are many. Depending on your needs >>> you may consider squid, wwwoffle, anon-proxy, privoxy, just to mention a >>> few. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Can a person still use a torrent >>>> program, and use it safely? >>>> >>>> >>> Sure, why not? And what do you mean with "safely"? >>> >>> >> When I read that now, it doesn't make any sense. I can't remember what >> was going through my mind. I think I meant without losing important >> stuff; if it is like a filter, you lose things sometimes you'd rather >> not lose. >> >>> >>> >>>> Does a Proxy Server provide similar >>>> benefit to a firewall? >>>> >>>> >>> A firewall can do many more things than a proxy server. See >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Is a firewall just a complex password protected incoming signal. I am >> sure my imagination sees it wrong. I have never heard it explained, I >> have just heard the word firewall. >> >>> >>> >>>> Is the setup easy enough for a newbie? >>>> >>>> >>> That depends on what type of proxy you are speaking of. If it is a proxy >>> somewhere on the net you usually only have to set the IP address and port >>> in your browser. If it is a program on your machine it depends on the >>> program. >>> >>> >> If the ones that cost are better, I need one that is cheap. If the free >> ones work OK, do they increase the security provided by a firewall. >> Does a good firewall work as well without a proxy server? >> >>> >>> >>>> Will a >>>> Proxy Server work through a Router? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >>>> through my router, then relax internal security. >>>> >>>> >>> >From your previous posts I know you are the only one on your local >>> network. Therefore I think you don't need to worry about "incoming >>> internet signal" if your router can work as a firewall which blocks >>> incoming connections. Check the router setup page if that is possible. >>> Then again, there are things like phishing emails which can't be reliably >>> blocked by a firewall or proxy. There you'd better rely on your brain. >>> >>> >> I followed their instruction pretty well, because it worked. I have no >> idea what I did. I just followed instructions. I really would like to >> understand this aspect of computing. My new computer will start fresh >> without all the mistakes and insecurities as this one. And, I would >> like to be reasonably secure from now on. >> >> Thanks! Nils >> >>> Nils >>> >>> >>> >> > > Hi Steven, > > basically your router acts as a device that translates between your > private network (ex. 192.168.1.x) and the Internet. > > This offers you a good deal of privacy since your private network cannot > be seen and cannot be exploited from the internet. > > Moreover the firewall that is integrated into your router should ensure > that no incoming traffic is handled which you did not previously > initiate from the inside. This most often is setup by default. > > Generally a firewall handles traffic by looking at each IP packet, > applying a rule set to it and act accordingly. A proxy in contrast is an > application that acts "on your behalf" in regard to internet > communication. They are generally not related, although it often makes > sense to install them in common. > > So you can safely rely on your router/firewall, have fun with your new > machine and feel adequately safe. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > Dear Eberhard, Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the firewall? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 08:37:07 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:37:07 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire Appology Message-ID: <49364533.6090002@sbcglobal.net> After playing the mid-level game of Spider Solitaire, it took a while to remember how I played before. I told a lie in my explanation of the win percentage, but not on purpose. Using Spider Solitaire as a memory exercise, I could not do it with the easiest game for it was too little competition. The second level caused too many losses to keep me interested, so I would not start a game until I had at lease two runs of three to start out the game. I would just redeal until that came up. With that much of a head start, the game became winnable enough to keep it interesting. So winning percentages became high because I didn't start a tough game. Anyway, it has been more than three years since I played, and I wasn't playing to prove anything; I was just playing to exercise my memory. I am embarrassed, because I lost about 10 games in a row, when I started playing again. It wasn't until that happened, that I remembered how I got winning to happen enough to want to continue to play. I don't want you guys to think I can't be reasonably trusted. I try very hard to not lie anymore. I am ashamed when I do and don't realize it. I don't do it on purpose anymore. Steven From rk at vzsze.de Wed Dec 3 08:50:52 2008 From: rk at vzsze.de (Rolf Kutz) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:50:52 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20081203085051.GA32698@vzsze.de> On 03/12/08 09:02 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >Generally a firewall handles traffic by looking at each IP packet, >applying a rule set to it and act accordingly. A proxy in contrast is an >application that acts "on your behalf" in regard to internet >communication. They are generally not related, although it often makes >sense to install them in common. Proxy could be seen as an "application level firewall" vs. a "packet level firewall". Both have their advantages and disadvantages. >So you can safely rely on your router/firewall, have fun with your new >machine and feel adequately safe. If you keep your system up2date. regards, Rolf -- ... Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' ... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 08:56:40 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:56:40 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> Message-ID: <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >> >> Steven >> >> > > My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. > And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just > shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their > computer up their way so easily. > > Neil > > One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. Most of the things I had trouble changing from Windows to Linux, I found better in Linux, once I used it enough to become comfortable, as well as configure it well. You may lose a feature that you like, but you will find more that you did not have when using the Microsoft version or other offerings. Konqueror was too radical a change to make immediately. Now that I am learning to use it, I really like the many ways it out performs almost every other browser I have tried. I am expecting that to happen kmail. Just the ability to format the print size is reason enough for me to change. Additionally, I am alone, not running a business with my computer, so maybe that makes a difference. I just write to this list and friends and family. I don't know enough about it to give too much advice, but I remember those die hard KDE users trying to explain its benefits back when I wasn't ready for that much change yet. I can no longer find anything I miss from the Microsoft product. Not one thing. But even Compiz, which was way too much for me a year ago, is a comfortable and welcome piece of technology. Instead of a cube, I use an 8 sided, for lack of a better term, cube, and I leave about 1/2 inch of space at the top of the screen which ever package I have open, just so I can keep the cursor on the desktop any time I want. Putting the cursor in that area, you can spin the wheel on the moust and swiftly move from page to page, retaining all the open packages. One will always have an active browser, anther email, another my list of partitions, another on and on and on. And even if I have something on all 8 sides, they can be layered page on page, and by Ctrl + Alt + left mouse, held down, the entire 8 sided cube appears. Moving the mouse forward it rotates up, moving it toward you rotates it down, to the left rotates it left and moving the mouse right, of course, rotates the cube right. If their are pages upon pages on any side of the cube, you can see the layers and see which is which. It is so slick and quick and useful, I can not live without it, now that I have it. At first I saw it as glitz, but it is extremely useful if you are working. And if your processor and memory can handle all the multiple processes, it is better than what is out there as competition. Anyone who isn't using it should find out how to set it up just for a couple of features; you will use those features all the time. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 08:59:13 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:59:13 -0500 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <20081203085051.GA32698@vzsze.de> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <20081203085051.GA32698@vzsze.de> Message-ID: <49364A61.1090605@sbcglobal.net> Rolf Kutz wrote: > On 03/12/08 09:02 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> Generally a firewall handles traffic by looking at each IP packet, >> applying a rule set to it and act accordingly. A proxy in contrast is >> an application that acts "on your behalf" in regard to internet >> communication. They are generally not related, although it often >> makes sense to install them in common. > > Proxy could be seen as an "application level > firewall" vs. a "packet level firewall". Both have > their advantages and disadvantages. > >> So you can safely rely on your router/firewall, have fun with your >> new machine and feel adequately safe. > > If you keep your system up2date. > > regards, Rolf > Thanks Rolf, I like the input. I keep my updates up to date every couple of days. Every time I enter Adept Package Manager, my manager of choice, I look for updates and add them. So it should be my safest situation yet. Cordially, Steven From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Wed Dec 3 09:17:09 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:17:09 +0000 Subject: Power supply (was: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused.) In-Reply-To: <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear Eberhard, > > Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a > quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy > draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer > is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls > with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, > refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and > the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or > larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine > are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably > doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the > info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I > had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I > open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the > firewall? > > Steven > 400 may be a little small for all parts to work, but it should be enough for the BIOS to start. You don't need hard disks and dvds (or anything except the video card and the keyboard :) ). I'd be more worried about the power supply outputting the wrong tensions (i.e. too low on some or all the cables) than about its power. HTH, I. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 09:17:33 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:17:33 +0200 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>> >>> Steven >>> >>> >> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. >> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just >> shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their >> computer up their way so easily. >> >> Neil >> >> > One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print > size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I > love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to > scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. > > I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to > function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well as one provider where I have a unique port open. Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 09:33:53 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:33:53 +0100 Subject: Strange behavior with keyboard and mouse in 8.10 In-Reply-To: <200812030628.54856.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812030628.54856.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/3 Nils Kassube : > Jonas Norlander wrote: >> During the last days, perhaps sins the upgrade to the 2.6.27-9 kernel >> i have some strange errors with with my Kubuntu 8.10. >> For some reason the keyboard suddenly start to behave strange for >> example i cant switch VC with the ctrl+alt+fx keys or in konsole > > It seems you have activated stickey / slow keys inadvertently. Go to > System Settings -> Accessibility. At the tab "Modifier Keys uncheck "Use > sticky keys", at the tab "Keyboard Filters" uncheck "Use slow keys" and > at the tab "Activation Gestures" uncheck "Use gestures for activating > sticky kkeys and slow keys". Well, that was for Kubuntu 8.04 but it is > very similar for 8.10. > > > Nils > Good thought but the only thing activated there was "Activation Gestures". I don't think it's related to my problem as the problem persist even when i log out of KDE. When i cant use ctrl+alt+Fx to switch VC the "switch user" function or using KDM to "log in to a console" and i also had some problems when i started up in "rescue mode". To me it looks to be something more then KDE/X and that rules out that I did some bad configuration in KDE and it started sometime around the kernel upgrade, but I cant be sure. Thanks anyway / Jonas From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 09:39:09 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:39:09 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <493653BD.4020000@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a >> quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy >> draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer >> is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls >> with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, >> refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and >> the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or >> larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine >> are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably >> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the >> info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I >> had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I >> open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the >> firewall? >> >> Steven >> >> > > 400 may be a little small for all parts to work, but it should be enough > for the BIOS to start. You don't need hard disks and dvds (or anything > except the video card and the keyboard :) ). I'd be more worried about > the power supply outputting the wrong tensions (i.e. too low on some or > all the cables) than about its power. > HTH, > I. > > I am down to the motherboard and the power supply as the probable problem for my new computer. If the power supply is OK, ASUS recognizes the problem as theirs. The Heat Sink Fan does not run, when I boot up. It did run, when I put it on one of the 3 pin fan slots. When connected properly, if the 4 pin connector doesn't work, the power to the processor may not work. It also probably supplies the 4 pin. So if the cable from the power supply that goes to the Processor is defective, that is the problem. Otherwise it is the motherboard. Is there a way to check the power from the power supply cable that goes to the 8 pin processor power supply? I am not a technician, but it would seem if a person knew how, he could use a test meter of some kind and touch the pins to see if there is power. I would need knowledge to try such a thing. If static electricity can blow a processor, surely 12 V of power could. steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 09:39:44 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:39:44 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <493653E0.8010300@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a >> quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy >> draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer >> is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls >> with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, >> refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and >> the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or >> larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine >> are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably >> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the >> info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I >> had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I >> open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the >> firewall? >> >> Steven >> >> > > 400 may be a little small for all parts to work, but it should be enough > for the BIOS to start. You don't need hard disks and dvds (or anything > except the video card and the keyboard :) ). I'd be more worried about > the power supply outputting the wrong tensions (i.e. too low on some or > all the cables) than about its power. > HTH, > I. > > I am down to the motherboard and the power supply. If the power supply is OK, ASUS recognizes the problem as theirs. The Heat Sink Fan does not run, when I boot up. It did run, when I put it on one of the 3 pin fan slots. When connected properly, if the 4 pin connector doesn't work the power to the processor may not work. It also probably supplies the 4 pin. So if the cable from the power supply that goes to the Processor is defective, that is the problem. Otherwise it is the motherboard. Is there a way to check the power from the power supply that goes to the From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 09:39:55 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:39:55 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <493653EB.1000103@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a >> quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy >> draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer >> is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls >> with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, >> refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and >> the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or >> larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine >> are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably >> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the >> info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I >> had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I >> open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the >> firewall? >> >> Steven >> >> > > 400 may be a little small for all parts to work, but it should be enough > for the BIOS to start. You don't need hard disks and dvds (or anything > except the video card and the keyboard :) ). I'd be more worried about > the power supply outputting the wrong tensions (i.e. too low on some or > all the cables) than about its power. > HTH, > I. > > I am down to the motherboard and the power supply. If the power supply is OK, ASUS recognizes the problem as theirs. The Heat Sink Fan does not run, when I boot up. It did run, when I put it on one of the 3 pin fan slots. When connected properly, if the 4 pin connector doesn't work the power to the processor may not work. It also probably supplies the 4 pin. So if the cable from the power supply that goes to the Processor is defective, that is the problem. Otherwise it is the motherboard. Is there a way to check the power from the power supply that goes to the From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 09:44:06 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:44:06 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493654E6.8010206@sbcglobal.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >>>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. >>> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just >>> shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their >>> computer up their way so easily. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> >> One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print >> size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I >> love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to >> scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. >> >> I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to >> function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. >> > > what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the > "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after > some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well > as one provider where I have a unique port open. > I have tried that and every other option I can think of. My server wants $100 to fix the problem. AT&T. They and Unix created the Linux system and won't service Linux. Since I can still use TBird, I can't afford $100 for that. I have copied my configuration to the List; no one could help. I copied the TBird config exactly. Did not work. > Sinclair > > From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 09:52:47 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:52:47 +0100 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a >> quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy >> draw. sure. 400 W is plenty for this, even with (single) video, you will not run into trouble. Let's assume your quadcore will draw 140W Max from your PSU and a decent lowend video card (which you do not have!) will burn another 140W, 400 will be okay, since when the manaufacturer announced 400, there may be 300 in reality.;-) However for actually running the system, you might consider to use a larger PSU I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer >> is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls >> with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, >> refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and >> the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or >> larger PS. You will not need this for testing purposes. Use any power supply that you have. I would suggest that you start with a "known working" power supply to differentiate causes for problems. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? No. On another note DVD, HDD and the like do not draw any reasonable power that is worth to be discussed. Simply forget about their power consumption. Mine >> are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. This does not matter for boot up to Bios. That can be done without any DVD/hdd at all. If for some reason you want to connect SATA for testing, there are adaptors available. It probably >> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. I assume you are referring to the (nearly) square connector... It should have one. Have a look. If there is none, the PSU might be to old to be used for your testing purposes. Thanks for the >> info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I >> had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I >> open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the >> firewall? Try and find out. Over here that works, although I just use torrent for Linux DVD /openoffice.... downloads, so I cannot comment on different contents or torrents. Kind regards and good luck with your ASUS board. Eberhard From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 09:53:32 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:53:32 +0100 Subject: Auto play DVDs? In-Reply-To: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: 2008/12/3 Wulfy : > Kubuntu Intrepid. > > How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked > everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere can > I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most > strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and > camera) but not devices I *do* have! > I don't think you can. The dialog you got when inserting a media with option like mount, browse, play, rip etc. you had in KDE3 is one of the things i really miss in Intrepid. The only thing you can do (as far i know) is to open with dolphin if you use the "discover new media" plasmoid. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 09:56:51 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:56:51 +0100 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <49362CCC.5050800@gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> <49362CCC.5050800@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/3 O. Sinclair : > Art Alexion wrote: >> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:03:59 am Glenn R Williams wrote: >>> FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: >>> >>> Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General >>> >>> In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use >>> OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) >> >> Same with 3.0, and works the same way as well for me. >> > Did you install from the ppa repos and are you on 8.04 or 8.10? I > installed from the downloadable deb-file and I do no HAVE that option in 3.0 > I installed from ppa in 8.10. Do you have openoffice.org-kde package installed? / Jonas From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 10:05:58 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:05:58 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40812030205x5f9ec023r39334d8abe263a83@mail.gmail.com> On 02/12/2008, Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/2 O. Sinclair : > > Installed OOo3 and it runs just fine BUT the filepicker is crap and I > > can not find anywhere to get it to use the KDE filepicker as 2.4 did. > > Anyone has ideas or sorted this problem? > > > > Sinclair > > > > I have Open office 3 and it using what looks like the KDE4 open/save dialog. > > Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General-> Open/save is unchecked. > > I do have one problem with it and it is that when open/saving a file > the dialog opens up spanning the whole screen width and OO is not the > only program doing that but i don't remember the other programs right > now. > > / Jonas > jonas, i'm not on a kubuntu box right now, so can't be sure. but you can right click the title bar of any window, and click window behaviour. there's an option somewhere there tochose the state of new windows. i once set it to maximised, and this started happening, so i switched it back to it's default value which is "smart". -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 3 10:08:11 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:08:11 +0000 Subject: Auto play DVDs? In-Reply-To: References: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <49365A8B.40603@tiscali.co.uk> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/3 Wulfy : > >> Kubuntu Intrepid. >> >> How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked >> everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere can >> I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most >> strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and >> camera) but not devices I *do* have! >> >> > > I don't think you can. The dialog you got when inserting a media with > option like mount, browse, play, rip etc. you had in KDE3 is one of > the things i really miss in Intrepid. The only thing you can do (as > far i know) is to open with dolphin if you use the "discover new > media" plasmoid. > > / Jonas > > Thanks, Jonas. Yeah, I found that plasmoid and it does just that. I can also "Play DVD" from the menu in Kaffeine, but it's a hassle. Hopefully, KDE 4.2 will fix some of these silly things... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Dec 3 10:10:46 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:10:46 +0000 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the first few bars of a song and then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. brian From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 10:19:02 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:19:02 +0200 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <49354B8C.3050309@gmail.com> <200812021003.59858.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812021243.22035.art.alexion@gmail.com> <49362CCC.5050800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49365D16.9050008@gmail.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/3 O. Sinclair : >> Art Alexion wrote: >>> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:03:59 am Glenn R Williams wrote: >>>> FYI, in 2.4 the option is in: >>>> >>>> Tools --> Options --> OpenOffice.org --> General >>>> >>>> In the area labeled "Open/Save dialogs", there is one checkbox labeled "Use >>>> OpenOffice.org dialogs". (Mine was unchecked by default) >>> Same with 3.0, and works the same way as well for me. >>> >> Did you install from the ppa repos and are you on 8.04 or 8.10? I >> installed from the downloadable deb-file and I do no HAVE that option in 3.0 >> > > I installed from ppa in 8.10. Do you have openoffice.org-kde package installed? Yes... and gnome just to be sure! Sadly the ppa is not for Hardy, at least not last time I checked. It has a link but the repo is empty of files. I am in 8.04.1 in other words. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 10:30:49 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:30:49 +0200 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> References: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40812030230w20dffcc3x43cdb25ae764dde7@mail.gmail.com> On 03/12/2008, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > first few bars of a song and > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > brian > amarok runs as long as the PC is running here, if you're talking about amarok 2, i'm clueless, i install it once every month to try it out, and go back to amarok 1.4 amarok 1.4 is almost flawless, no skipping no nothing -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Wed Dec 3 10:49:36 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:49:36 +0000 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> References: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812031049.36747.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:10:46 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > first few bars of a song and > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > brian Yes, I had this, you need to change the reference to your device in the settings to /dev/hdX the X being whatever is appropriate for your drive, which is probably c or d. If I've remembered it correctly that is. goto settings/engine/audio_cd_config/default_device and change whatever is in that edit box per above. nepal From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 10:57:53 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:57:53 +0200 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <200812031049.36747.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> <200812031049.36747.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40812030257n327f3e3bra87bcb225967785a@mail.gmail.com> On 03/12/2008, nepal wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:10:46 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > > first few bars of a song and > > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > > brian > > Yes, I had this, you need to change the reference to your device in the > settings to /dev/hdX the X being whatever is appropriate for your drive, > which is probably c or d. > > If I've remembered it correctly that is. > > goto settings/engine/audio_cd_config/default_device and change whatever is in > that edit box per above. > ah, you're talking about removable devices? i usually load songs from my home directory -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Wed Dec 3 11:03:18 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:03:18 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 09:17:33 O. Sinclair wrote: > what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the > "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after > some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well > as one provider where I have a unique port open. > > Sinclair so are you saying you have three different transports available? I couldn't get this to work correctly either, It drove me so nuts yesterday I gave up on it and installed 7.10 on a separate drive. Then when I got it working there I went back to 8.04 and retried, got send to work, but it still f***s about with the transport to use for the send and invariably chooses the wrong one. So I found with googlemail that I could set that up to access my other (ISP) mail accounts and did it that way and now just have a single transport. Incidentally, googlemail says set the port to 465 which doesn't work, but if I hit "check what the server supports" it sets the port to 25, TLS,PLAIN, and does work. go figure eh. I also noticed in 8.04 that some of the changes made to the kmail settings are not reflected instantly and that is part of the reason kmail was so f****ing awkward yesterday. nepal. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 11:33:01 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:33:01 +0200 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <49366E6D.3080003@gmail.com> nepal wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 09:17:33 O. Sinclair wrote: >> what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the >> "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after >> some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well >> as one provider where I have a unique port open. >> >> Sinclair > > so are you saying you have three different transports available? > > I couldn't get this to work correctly either, It drove me so nuts yesterday I > gave up on it and installed 7.10 on a separate drive. Then when I got it > working there I went back to 8.04 and retried, got send to work, but it still > f***s about with the transport to use for the send and invariably chooses the > wrong one. So I found with googlemail that I could set that up to access my > other (ISP) mail accounts and did it that way and now just have a single > transport. Incidentally, googlemail says set the port to 465 which doesn't > work, but if I hit "check what the server supports" it sets the port to 25, > TLS,PLAIN, and does work. go figure eh. I also noticed in 8.04 that some of > the changes made to the kmail settings are not reflected instantly and that > is part of the reason kmail was so f****ing awkward yesterday. > The "normal mail port 25" to me is set up: port 25 (duh) requires authentication remember password on tab Security: Encryption "None" Authentication Method "Login" using a SSL: port 465 authentication remember password on tab Security: Encryption "SSL" Authentication Method "Plain" at the moment not using gmail/googlemail on Kmail but try port 587 if 465 flunks. Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 11:38:44 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:38:44 +0100 Subject: Openoffice.org 3 and filepicker In-Reply-To: <15edeae40812030205x5f9ec023r39334d8abe263a83@mail.gmail.com> References: <49350FB6.40808@gmail.com> <15edeae40812030205x5f9ec023r39334d8abe263a83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/3 Willy Hamra : > On 02/12/2008, Jonas Norlander wrote: >> I do have one problem with it and it is that when open/saving a file >> the dialog opens up spanning the whole screen width and OO is not the >> only program doing that but i don't remember the other programs right >> now. >> >> / Jonas >> > > jonas, i'm not on a kubuntu box right now, so can't be sure. but you > can right click the title bar of any window, and click window > behaviour. there's an option somewhere there tochose the state of new > windows. i once set it to maximised, and this started happening, so i > switched it back to it's default value which is "smart". > I don't see any "smart" option but if i right click and choose advanced i have two options "Special window settings" and "Special program settings" when i chose one can use it to make some rules how that windows window class or program will behave. Playing with it i manage to set rules for the size of the kdefilepicker window class. You can also access the settings through "system settings -> Window behavior -> Window specific" / Jonas From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 11:50:57 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:50:57 +0100 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <493653EB.1000103@sbcglobal.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> <493653EB.1000103@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: >> >> > I am down to the motherboard and the power supply. If the power supply > is OK, ASUS recognizes the problem as theirs. The Heat Sink Fan does > not run, when I boot up. It did run, when I put it on one of the 3 pin > fan slots. When connected properly, if the 4 pin connector doesn't work > the power to the processor may not work. When the 3pin connector worked and the fan was spinning, this is an indication that at least something from the PSU is working. It does not prove anything, but at least it is not totally dead. The same goes for the motherboad. I would assume, that your fan on the sink does not power up, because the 4pin connector is controlled by a circuit that only operates the fan, when needed. It also probably supplies the > 4 pin. So if the cable from the power supply that goes to the Processor > is defective, that is the problem. Otherwise it is the motherboard. Is > there a way to check the power from the power supply that goes to the Yes, there is. GEnerally, in order to operate the power supply outside the computer (i.e. disconnected from it) you need to shorten 2 leads of the large power supply connector and also add a certain "load", like 2 harddisks, a few fans, a 12V bulp or similar. Otherwise it will not start, not because it's defective, just because there is no load. So you better use it, when it's connected to the PC. Have a multimeter ready and a VERY close look here, also looking at the links that are referenced there at the bottom of the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply There you can see, what voltage each connector should deliver. Mainly you should see 12V and 5V. DISCLAIMER: You are on your own. I will not accept any liability for any damage to your hardware or your health that might occur. From my experience it is not very difficult to destroy a motherboard, CPU and/or a PSU. If you are not confident that you can handle this, you might be better off, if you temporarily take the PSU from your current computer and use this for testing, whether your new PSU is faulty. You might also very easily use your new PSU to power your old computer. Doing this you will easily see, whether it's largely defective or not. In Addition: Should you have any questions, I cordially invite you to mail me personally and off-list with any questions you might have, before you will do anything, being uncertain, how to do it. kind regards and good luck Eberhard From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 12:10:38 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:10:38 +0100 Subject: Spider Solitaire Appology In-Reply-To: <49364533.6090002@sbcglobal.net> References: <49364533.6090002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Steven Vollom wrote: > After playing the mid-level game of Spider Solitaire, it took a while to > remember how I played before. I told a lie in my explanation of the win > percentage, but not on purpose. Using Spider Solitaire as a memory > exercise, I could not do it with the easiest game for it was too little > competition. The second level caused too many losses to keep me > interested, so I would not start a game until I had at lease two runs of > three to start out the game. I would just redeal until that came up. > With that much of a head start, the game became winnable enough to keep > it interesting. So winning percentages became high because I didn't > start a tough game. Anyway, it has been more than three years since I > played, and I wasn't playing to prove anything; I was just playing to > exercise my memory. I am embarrassed, because I lost about 10 games in > a row, when I started playing again. It wasn't until that happened, > that I remembered how I got winning to happen enough to want to continue > to play. I don't want you guys to think I can't be reasonably trusted. > I try very hard to not lie anymore. I am ashamed when I do and don't > realize it. I don't do it on purpose anymore. > > Steven In my religion, Zen Buddhism there is a precept not to lie but to tell the truth. This is a great way to see your true self. When you stop lying even little lies you tell yourself become starkly appenent and this then lets up clean up our act. What you have done is not telling a lie it is more just a mistake. Having bad intention is very important to well done evil lying! :-) Wikipedia Lie A lie (also called prevarication), is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others, often with the further intention to maintain a secret or reputation, protect someone's feelings or to avoid a punishment. Wikipedia Truth The meaning of the word truth extends from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in particular.[1] The term has no single definition about which a majority of professional philosophers and scholars agree, and various theories of truth continue to be debated. I would highly recommend learning to play the game GO to help your memory and be sure to eat lots of fish and green veggies! quarry is good with gnu go as the engine I mostly play using qgo on the IGS server so that I can play real people. some good sites are: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Go http://goproblems.com/ http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/ http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp http://www.usgo.org/resources/whatisgo.html Don't expect to start winning until you have played for a year! A great way to learn to be humble! It is also a great way to understand how China thinks about taking over the world in it's own way. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 3 12:30:22 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:30:22 -0500 Subject: Auto play DVDs? In-Reply-To: <49365A8B.40603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> <49365A8B.40603@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812030730.22248.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:08:11 am Wulfy wrote: > Jonas Norlander wrote: > > 2008/12/3 Wulfy : > >> Kubuntu Intrepid. > >> > >> How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked > >> everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere can > >> I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most > >> strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and > >> camera) but not devices I *do* have! > > > > I don't think you can. The dialog you got when inserting a media with > > option like mount, browse, play, rip etc. you had in KDE3 is one of > > the things i really miss in Intrepid. The only thing you can do (as > > far i know) is to open with dolphin if you use the "discover new > > media" plasmoid. > > > > / Jonas > > Thanks, Jonas. > > Yeah, I found that plasmoid and it does just that. I can also "Play > DVD" from the menu in Kaffeine, but it's a hassle. Hopefully, KDE 4.2 > will fix some of these silly things... I agree. I also wasted an hour or two trying to configure this also. I've been using 8.10 for a while now. It is surprisingly stable, but does lack some features I was so familiar with in 8.04. On a side note, I have a question. Is 8.10 named Intrepid? -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 3 12:48:17 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:48:17 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, wrote: > > Showing us the error would help a lot. > > > > > > > > -- > > Lindsay Mathieson > > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > > > > --- Original message --- > > Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > From: uriah heep > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM > > > > Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing apt > > and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the error. I > > am quite new at this and quite ignorant. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > Here it is > > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > E: The list of sources could not be read. > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do > not know how to edit the file. At first don't delete it, just comment it out by putting a " # " in front of the line that you think needs deleting. If everything works Ok then delete it. by looking at sources list, you should be able to figure out the line format and distinguish what belongs and what doesn't -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 3 12:55:49 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:55:49 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812030755.49148.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 3:56:40 am Steven Vollom wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for > >> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only > >> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to > >> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the > >> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. > >> > >> Steven > > > > My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. > > And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just > > shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their > > computer up their way so easily. > > > > Neil > > One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print > size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I > love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to > scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. > > I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to > function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. To get your SMTP working, you may have to use a user name and password. Settings->configure kmail->click on "accounts"->click on "sending"->click on your account and click modify in the right pane. Click on "check what server supports" then click on the "advanced" tab, check "server requires authentication" and put your login information (probably the same as your POP information) in the boxes, and your SMTP should work. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 3 13:51:55 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:51:55 -0400 Subject: Spider Solitaire References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to >>>>>>> remember?) >>>>>>> >>>>> kpat >>>>> >>> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks >>> like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself >>> brian > I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager > As I said, "kpat". kpat is the package, KPatience may be the actual game. You really need to learn to use the basic commands of your system. Searching for kpatience with "apt-cache search" finds kpat. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 3 13:55:20 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:55:20 -0400 Subject: konqueror search engines References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4920268.CziCiciREp@cedar.serverforest.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> >> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it >> for >> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. > > My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never > again. Because Tbird is ugly and clunky :-) [OK, that's because _I_ tried it once and never again - at least 4 or 5 years ago] > And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It's _still_ a better browser than Firefox in many ways. If only they'd actually done anything to it in the last 3 years... -- derek From dgvirtual at akl.lt Wed Dec 3 14:23:13 2008 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:23:13 +0200 Subject: dolphin compression service menus - help! Message-ID: <49369651.7070801@akl.lt> I found it frustrating that Dolphin does not have service menus for compression/uncompression of files. Ark, it seems, has lost all the command line arguments (besides failure to open zip files) with the transition to kde4, so the old menus, even when converted to kde4 format, are useless... I tried to create compression menu, but inside the archive I get a structure with all the /home/username/path/to/the/dir/to/be/compressed/ which is not good at all... Besides, it does not work on files. I have run out of ideas... Any ideas how to modify the menu so it works? contents of /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/archive_dir.desktop : [Desktop Entry] ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin,inode/directory Actions=CompressZip;CompressTarGz;CompressTarBz2 X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel X-KDE-Submenu=Compress X-KDE-Submenu[lt]=Suspausti Type=Service [Desktop Action CompressZip] Name=Zip Archive Name[lt]=į zip archyvą Icon=utilities-file-archiver Exec=zip -r %f.zip %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! [Desktop Action CompressTarGz] Name=Gzipped Tar Archive Name[lt]=į tar.gz archyvą Icon=utilities-file-archiver Exec=tar -cvzf %f.tar.gz %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! [Desktop Action CompressTarBz2] Name=Bzip2 Tar Archive Name[lt]=į tar.bz2 archyvą Icon=utilities-file-archiver Exec=tar -cjf %f.tar.bz2 %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! == Donatas From dave at thefletchers.net Wed Dec 3 12:13:18 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:13:18 +0000 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <493653EB.1000103@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812031213.19275.dave@thefletchers.net> PC power supply testers are fairly cheap:- http://cpc.farnell.com/CS14742/computer-products/product.us0?sku=thermaltake-a235b I've got another model which is no longer manufactured, which not only checks all the DC output voltages, but also checks that the motherboard boot output works. I would expect this one to do the same. For the money, very well worth having one. Dave From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Dec 3 14:26:57 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:26:57 -0600 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >> through my router, then relax internal security. >> Most ISP's use some form of filtering on who gets through to your system.Not necessarily efficient, but there none the less. Then you have the firewall on your router. that's probably good enough to keep out all but the most determined people. The easiest way for someone to get into your system is if your using a wireless router. You want to make sure that you have that connection "secured" with either a WEP key or some form of encryption. The thing is that no matter what you do if someone wants in bad enough there are ways to get in. It's kind of like the locks on your front door. They are basically only designed to keep honest people honest. The only 100% sure way to secure your system is to unplug it from the internet, turn off the power switch and unplug it from the wall. At this point your system is secure but pretty much useless except for a paper weight or a door stop. Your best defense for most cases is your own awareness. Be careful what you open/click on. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Dec 3 14:36:44 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:36:44 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <493654E6.8010206@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> <493654E6.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812030936.44144.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: >O. Sinclair wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> Neil Winchurst wrote: >>>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >>>>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>>>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>>>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>>>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>>>> >>>>> Steven >>>> >>>> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. >>>> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just >>>> shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their >>>> computer up their way so easily. >>>> >>>> Neil >>> >>> One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print >>> size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I >>> love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to >>> scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. >>> >>> I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to >>> function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. >> >> >> what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the >> "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after >> some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well >> as one provider where I have a unique port open. > >I have tried that and every other option I can think of. My server >wants $100 to fix the problem. AT&T. They and Unix created the Linux >system and won't service Linux. Since I can still use TBird, I can't >afford $100 for that. I have copied my configuration to the List; no >one could help. I copied the TBird config exactly. Did not work. I have to assume you have entered the correct password to access the mail server at your ISP? That is obfuscated by being encrypted in all configs I know of, and therefore not a copyable item. >> Sinclair -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Churchill's Commentary on Man: Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 14:57:34 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:57:34 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie Walsh wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >>> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >>> through my router, then relax internal security. >>> > > Most ISP's use some form of filtering on who gets through to your > system.Not necessarily efficient, but there none the less. Then you have > the firewall on your router. that's probably good enough to keep out all > but the most determined people. The easiest way for someone to get into > your system is if your using a wireless router. You want to make sure > that you have that connection "secured" with either a WEP key or some > form of encryption. I assume you are relating to WPA or, better, WPA-2. while WPA can also be cracked, as has recently been proofed, WEP cracking can be done within minutes: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30114/98/ Kind regards Eberhard From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Wed Dec 3 15:41:38 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:41:38 +0000 Subject: gmane news server Message-ID: <200812031541.38588.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Would some kind person remind me what the correct server name is for gmane. I tried looking at the archives via html, but don't see any search function and I don't have the recent email that spelled it out. thanks nepal. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Dec 3 16:13:07 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:13:07 -0600 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4936B013.9030909@swbell.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>>> I would like to increase the security of the incoming internet signal >>>> through my router, then relax internal security. >>>> >>>> >> Most ISP's use some form of filtering on who gets through to your >> system.Not necessarily efficient, but there none the less. Then you have >> the firewall on your router. that's probably good enough to keep out all >> but the most determined people. The easiest way for someone to get into >> your system is if your using a wireless router. You want to make sure >> that you have that connection "secured" with either a WEP key or some >> form of encryption. >> > > I assume you are relating to WPA or, better, WPA-2. > > while WPA can also be cracked, as has recently been proofed, > > WEP cracking can be done within minutes: > http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30114/98/ > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > We use a WEP key on our home system. That's sufficient to keep honest people honest. If someone cracks it about all they can do is look at my grand children's pictures or my Maxine collection. There's nothing on the system to make it worthwhile to get into. IF we had a system with very sensitive information, or we had something to hide, on it we would use something different, but WEP is sufficient for most home computer use. Even WPAx won't necessarily keep out someone that's determined to get in and is willing to make the effort required. In that case the only sure way to keep someone out is turn off the machine. There are way more than enough completely wide open systems to keep any number of people happy without working to get into even a WEP protected system. -- Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 3 16:10:04 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:10:04 -0400 Subject: gmane news server References: <200812031541.38588.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1854117.nikTDCOuSm@cedar.serverforest.com> nepal wrote: > Would some kind person remind me what the correct server name is for > gmane. I tried looking at the archives via html, but don't see any > search function and I don't have the recent email that spelled it out. news.gmane.org -- derek From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Dec 3 16:15:55 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:15:55 +0000 Subject: Amarok (Willy Hamra) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4936B0BB.10204@btinternet.com> > >> Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the >> > > first few bars of a song and >> > > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for >> > > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. >> > > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. >> > > brian >> > > > > Yes, I had this, you need to change the reference to your device in the > > settings to /dev/hdX the X being whatever is appropriate for your drive, > > which is probably c or d. > > > > If I've remembered it correctly that is. > > > > goto settings/engine/audio_cd_config/default_device and change whatever is in > > that edit box per above. > > > ah, you're talking about removable devices? i usually load songs from my home directory Looked at Amarok 2 beta and thought maybe later. Never play music from cds, mp3s - always from directory on hard drive. Must have different Amarok version installed, but did eventually find a box labelled default device so changed /dev/cdrom -> /dev/sda will see how it goes. ta all brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 16:43:07 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:43:07 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <4936B013.9030909@swbell.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> <4936B013.9030909@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie Walsh wrote: >> > We use a WEP key on our home system. That's sufficient to keep honest > people honest. If someone cracks it about all they can do is look at my > grand children's pictures or my Maxine collection. There's nothing on > the system to make it worthwhile to get into. So you do not mind when your fotos are stolen? Lucky you. Never mind, this is your concern. > > IF we had a system with very sensitive information, or we had something > to hide, on it we would use something different, but WEP is sufficient > for most home computer use. At least over here in germany this is dangerous advice, since it is mostly not the contents of your computers that is endangered (and again, this your own responsibility) It is, what an attacker might possibly do with your internet connection. When he does criminal things with your connection, over here, you are the first person, who is legally responsible. The only way to escape this responsibility is that you can demonstrate that you did anything you could to protect your connection, i.e. you did anything that one could reasonably expect from someone with your knowledge. And WEP definitely does not suffice! > > Even WPAx won't necessarily keep out someone that's determined to get in > and is willing to make the effort required. I agree, but while it will be great fun to crack your WEP after breakfast, I would not love to crack your correctly implemented WPA key, at least not without your invitation to spend a lengthy holliday in front of your house ;-)) In that case the only sure > way to keep someone out is turn off the machine. There are way more than > enough completely wide open systems to keep any number of people happy > without working to get into even a WEP protected system. > I disagree, there is very minimal effort needed to get into WEP. I consider WEP to be as good as "wide open". Kind regards, Eberhard, who will be converting a customer's WLAN to dLAN, i.e. Networking via mains supply, tomorrow. ;-)) From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Wed Dec 3 16:54:19 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:54:19 +0000 Subject: gmane news server In-Reply-To: <1854117.nikTDCOuSm@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812031541.38588.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <1854117.nikTDCOuSm@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812031654.20046.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 16:10:04 Derek Broughton wrote: > nepal wrote: > > Would some kind person remind me what the correct server name is for > > gmane. I tried looking at the archives via html, but don't see any > > search function and I don't have the recent email that spelled it out. > > news.gmane.org > -- > derek Ah, bless you Derek. I had entered that, but there was a trailing / at the end and I kept getting server not recognised or something like that. Of course I should have remembered they are for html and not nntp, but didn't. duh. btw, I'm using Konq as my main browser with Mozilla just as a fallback now, with the Wallet manager which is working great and absolutely no trouble at all, in fact I have more confidence in KWallet than the FF. Even better, I have found that I can watch TED Talk videos and BBC cricket interviews on Konq now, I really like Konq as a browser, there is just the occasional annoying "script is causing Konq to seize", like when accessing gmail, but nonetheless, Happy days! :) hehe, now if I can just remember to set kalarm when I make tea, I keep overbrewing the damn stuff. LOL nepal From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Dec 3 18:11:29 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:11:29 -0600 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> <4936B013.9030909@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4936CBD1.1040808@swbell.net> On 12/03/2008 Eberhard Roloff wrote: > At least over here in germany this is dangerous advice, since it is > mostly not the contents of your computers that is endangered (and > again, > this your own responsibility) It is, what an attacker might possibly > do > with your internet connection. > > When he does criminal things with your connection, over here, you are > the first person, who is legally responsible. > The only way to escape this responsibility is that you can > demonstrate > that you did anything you could to protect your connection, i.e. you > did > anything that one could reasonably expect from someone with your > knowledge. And WEP definitely does not suffice! If I lived in Germany I suppose I would turn my house into Faraday Cage. That would satisfy the law. I doubt that anything short of that really would. Over here why would anyone make even the minimal effort it takes to crack a WEP when they can pick from any number of wide open systems in any residential, and many commercial, area(s). About 90+% of all residential routers are wide open and a _lot_ of commercial ones also. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 3 19:48:20 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:48:20 +0100 Subject: I have read some on Proxy Servers, but I am still confused. In-Reply-To: <4936CBD1.1040808@swbell.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49369731.7030803@swbell.net> <4936B013.9030909@swbell.net> <4936CBD1.1040808@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie Walsh wrote: > > If I lived in Germany I suppose I would turn my house into Faraday Cage. > That would satisfy the law. I doubt that anything short of that really > would. > ;-))) Billiant. Fully agreed, germans are crazy, at least from time to time. > Over here why would anyone make even the minimal effort it takes to > crack a WEP when they can pick from any number of wide open systems in > any residential, and many commercial, area(s). About 90+% of all > residential routers are wide open and a _lot_ of commercial ones also. Great!, again you are lucky to live there, honestly. Kind regards Eberhard > From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 3 20:06:52 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:06:52 +0000 Subject: Auto play DVDs? In-Reply-To: <200812030730.22248.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> <49365A8B.40603@tiscali.co.uk> <200812030730.22248.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4936E6DC.1000005@tiscali.co.uk> David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:08:11 am Wulfy wrote: > >> Jonas Norlander wrote: >> >>> 2008/12/3 Wulfy : >>> >>>> Kubuntu Intrepid. >>>> >>>> How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked >>>> everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere can >>>> I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most >>>> strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and >>>> camera) but not devices I *do* have! >>>> >>> I don't think you can. The dialog you got when inserting a media with >>> option like mount, browse, play, rip etc. you had in KDE3 is one of >>> the things i really miss in Intrepid. The only thing you can do (as >>> far i know) is to open with dolphin if you use the "discover new >>> media" plasmoid. >>> >>> / Jonas >>> >> Thanks, Jonas. >> >> Yeah, I found that plasmoid and it does just that. I can also "Play >> DVD" from the menu in Kaffeine, but it's a hassle. Hopefully, KDE 4.2 >> will fix some of these silly things... >> > > I agree. I also wasted an hour or two trying to configure this also. > > I've been using 8.10 for a while now. It is surprisingly stable, but does lack > some features I was so familiar with in 8.04. > > On a side note, I have a question. > > Is 8.10 named Intrepid? > > *buntu 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From art.alexion at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 20:48:02 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:48:02 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812031548.08481.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 1:30:48 am Jerry Lapham wrote: > If you're using Dolphin in KDE 3.5.10 go to /etc/apt/ and right click on > sources.list.  Select Actions > Edit as root.  Type in your password and > KWrite should open allowing you to edit and save sources.list. > > If not, you could open Konsole, cd to /etc/apt and type > >         kdesudo kate source.list > >         or > >         kdesudo kwrite source.list > > input your password, edit, and save. On a side note, I have really been enjoying using ne for editing files as root. ne is a console based editor, but the keybindings are mostly what X editor users are familiar with using. Convenient drop down menus, etc. Not part of the default install, though it should be. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install ne Now to edit sources.list, just type sudo ne /etc/apt/sources.list I only use kate on files where syntax color coding is useful. Otherwise, its overkill. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 3 20:59:17 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:59:17 -0500 Subject: Auto play DVDs? In-Reply-To: <4936E6DC.1000005@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49361F4F.8010306@tiscali.co.uk> <200812030730.22248.d.mcglone@att.net> <4936E6DC.1000005@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812031559.17761.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 3:06:52 pm Wulfy wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:08:11 am Wulfy wrote: > >> Jonas Norlander wrote: > >>> 2008/12/3 Wulfy : > >>>> Kubuntu Intrepid. > >>>> > >>>> How do I tell Kubuntu to autoplay DVDs and AudioCDs? I've looked > >>>> everywhere I can think of, googled, system-settings-ed, but nowhere > >>>> can I find how to tell the system what I want it to do. It seems most > >>>> strange that I can configure devices I *don't* have (joystick and > >>>> camera) but not devices I *do* have! > >>> > >>> I don't think you can. The dialog you got when inserting a media with > >>> option like mount, browse, play, rip etc. you had in KDE3 is one of > >>> the things i really miss in Intrepid. The only thing you can do (as > >>> far i know) is to open with dolphin if you use the "discover new > >>> media" plasmoid. > >>> > >>> / Jonas > >> > >> Thanks, Jonas. > >> > >> Yeah, I found that plasmoid and it does just that. I can also "Play > >> DVD" from the menu in Kaffeine, but it's a hassle. Hopefully, KDE 4.2 > >> will fix some of these silly things... > > > > I agree. I also wasted an hour or two trying to configure this also. > > > > I've been using 8.10 for a while now. It is surprisingly stable, but does > > lack some features I was so familiar with in 8.04. > > > > On a side note, I have a question. > > > > Is 8.10 named Intrepid? > > *buntu 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ Thanks, I usually just go by version numbers. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 3 21:55:33 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:55:33 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49370055.7000007@sbcglobal.net> > > It probably > >>> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. >>> > I assume you are referring to the (nearly) square connector... > > It should have one. Have a look. If there is none, the PSU might be to > old to be used for your testing purposes. > It occurs to me that i haven't verified if the plug I am thinking about is actually power to the Processor. Someone on the List described and named it for me and I have it in my memory that way. It is actually an 8 pin plug very near the processor. It also has a 4 pin that is joined to the cable that I do not use, but it is an 8 pin power source. That is why I thought that a 400 watt PS may not have the proper cable. Quads use more power, don't they? > > > Tried to make the download quicker in this reply. > Steven From michael at weblore.com Thu Dec 4 01:07:25 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:07:25 -0600 Subject: Compiling kernel with git Message-ID: <200812031907.25510.michael@weblore.com> I've built custom kernels before, but I've never used git. I'm having a problem with the sound on my system, and an alsa developer is offering me a git kernel tree that he thinks will fix my problem. My problem is that - with tool - I'm not sure how to proceed. I see the instructions for building from git, but what exactly do I retrieve before I do the configuration and build. I'm going to quote the message he sent me below. If you can at least get me started, I can go from there. It's unfamiliarity with this tool that has me confused. Thanks in advance Here's his message to me: > > Try my sound.git tree and sound-unstable.git tree. > > > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-2.6.git > > > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 01:10:16 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:10:16 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <200812031213.19275.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <493653EB.1000103@sbcglobal.net> <200812031213.19275.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <49372DF8.9020009@sbcglobal.net> David Fletcher wrote: > PC power supply testers are fairly cheap:- > > http://cpc.farnell.com/CS14742/computer-products/product.us0?sku=thermaltake-a235b > > I've got another model which is no longer manufactured, which not only checks > all the DC output voltages, but also checks that the motherboard boot output > works. I would expect this one to do the same. > > For the money, very well worth having one. > > Dave > > Thanks Dave, I did not get the one you mentioned, I could not find it in the US. Everytime it came up in google, it was priced in pounds or Euros. I got one on ebay and it will be delivered in a couple of days. Thanks for the recommendation, I am a little embarrassed I didn't think of that myself. I guess I thought it would be expensive for a one time use. Cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 01:13:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:13:47 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812030755.49148.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <200812030755.49148.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <49372ECB.40807@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 3:56:40 am Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >>>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. >>> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just >>> shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their >>> computer up their way so easily. >>> >>> Neil >>> >> One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print >> size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I >> love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to >> scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. >> >> I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to >> function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. >> > > To get your SMTP working, you may have to use a user name and password. > > Settings->configure kmail->click on "accounts"->click on "sending"->click on > your account and click modify in the right pane. Click on "check what server > supports" then click on the "advanced" tab, check "server requires > authentication" and put your login information (probably the same as your POP > information) in the boxes, and your SMTP should work. > Thank you for the thought, but I have. I have that with Thunderbird. I even had Kmail working a couple of years ago. I have duplicated the functioning configuration of my current servers; it just doesn't work with Kmail. I don't understand it. I have exhausted every option I know about or that anyone has suggested; it still doesn't send an email. They arrive just fine. Just can't send. Thanks for you help. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 01:20:08 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:20:08 -0500 Subject: How can I make my current project the primary consideration for the use of memory. Message-ID: <49373048.5070808@sbcglobal.net> For a while, I will still have an under-memoried computer. Is there a way for the thing I am currently doing on the computer to take priority from memory resources while torrents are still being downloaded and Compiz is gobbling up its requirements. Compiz seems to be the primary offender. Since I installed it, I have to wait on anything that requires memory. TIA Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 01:46:51 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:46:51 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >>>>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to >>>>>>>> remember?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> kpat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks >>>> like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself >>>> brian >>>> > > >> I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager >> >> > > As I said, "kpat". kpat is the package, KPatience may be the actual > game. You really need to learn to use the basic commands of your > system. Searching for kpatience with "apt-cache search" finds kpat. > I would give anything to be able to do that. I have so many things that I am resolving right now, I can't find the time to find the source for that tutorial. Let me ask you this, do I type into the terminal the following: *sudo apt-cashe search kpatience *to get that result. I don't know when to use sudo and when it isn't necessary. Additionally, I will have to practice many times before I am able to remember what I am doing and what the anticipated result will be. (Old w/fading memory). I already had Kpat installed. Never had time to look into its workings. I played a couple of games of patience, however you always win when you play that. When I found Spider Solitaire as an alternative, with mid-lever playing, I was happy. It had been so long since I played it, it took a while to get familiar with it again. I mentioned in an email recently that I used to play it winning about 80% of the time. This time I could hardly win. When I figured out why, I had already embarrassed myself with the 80% comment. I hate games where you only can win one out of ten. I don't like the losing experience that much. Additionally, I wasn't playing the game so much for fun as I was playing in under extreme conditions trying to exercise my mind and hopefully restore my memory a little. Consequently it took me several games to figure how I could have had such a winning percentage. When I finally figured it out, it would make a great new game that people would enjoy much more. The reason being, when playing in competition with others, the winner only would finish to take the prize. However when playing as a single, a person would never finish playing the game until all the cards were recovered and a victory was apparent. I just threw away all the rules and made my own. Since the rules apply to everyone, 80% winning success for an individual make the play more fun and exciting. I made the game not end until all cards had been recovered. Next, I would deal. If I didn't like the deal, I would redeal, and again and again until I liked the starting hand. At a certain point in the shuffle, a combination of cards appears as winnable. Then you play. At this point you will win about 80% of the games, which is fun. Nonetheless, since the first one to completely finish is the winner, time becomes the determining factor. As a result every minute you use up looking for that ideal starting point has the clock running. If you are competing with someone else, they may start playing the first deal. If it defeats them, the game is not over. They have to redeal and start again, over and over until they win. If you finish before them, you win; if they complete before you they win. You could have 1,000,000 players, and if they started at the selfsame time, there still would be only one winner. Lets say you make a play, and a few plays later you think it was a mistake; you simply back up and try the alternative that you didn't play the first time. Is it cheating, No.. It cost you valuable time, because everyone will ultimately finish the entire game, because it never stops going until one person finishes. When you are playing by yourself, you still have the joy of victory, because eventually you retire all the cards. Then all you have to do is check your time against your best previous time to know if you really won. You still have the feeling of victory, when you don't beat your best time, because you finish. Every time you do something that players of the original game would consider cheating, you aren't cheating because it isn't against the rules. There is always the penalty of having to redo your mistakes though. I think if you try it, you will be addicted at some point because the game always lets you feel like you succeeded. You don't even feel a failure when you don't meet you best time, you just try again. I have finished the Two-suit game in 98 moves. That is my best. I don't know how long it took, but it had to be faster than any other time I played the game. If you play and get close to that mark, you will understand how right your moves have to be to retire all the cards in 98 moves. I made a copy of my rules, in case anyone wanted them. It is way more fun than playing Spider Solitaire. Considerably more complex too. When I play I don't hesitate between moves. I force things to happen fast. My goal is to retrain my mind to accept and hold memory, including snap-decisions. I am going to beat some of this old stuff. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 01:53:37 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:53:37 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <4920268.CziCiciREp@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <4920268.CziCiciREp@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <49373821.7040603@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it >>> for >>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>> >> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never >> again. >> > > Because Tbird is ugly and clunky :-) [OK, that's because _I_ tried it > once and never again - at least 4 or 5 years ago] > > >> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. >> > > It's _still_ a better browser than Firefox in many ways. If only they'd > actually done anything to it in the last 3 years... > I wish I could get kmail working. It will be the first time I use Kubuntu and KDE exclusively. I have come to believe that using their packages until you get used to them will allow their true genius to appear. It has so far in all the other Kubuntu-KDE programs I have learned to use. Including Dolphin for me. I can remember the change and how I resisted. Now I can't remember what I so needed in Feisty. Konqueror and Kmail have been my holdouts, I am ashamed to say. Those who have conquered them have only good things to say about them. I am sure I will agree, once I have given them a fair chance. Cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 02:14:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:14:56 -0500 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49373D20.5010606@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> Do you think a 400 W power supply would be powerful enough to boot a >> quad core to BIOS, if I didn't have any additional video card energy >> draw. I would like to see if possibly my problem with the new computer >> is a power supply failure. ASUS is pretty sure that the problem falls >> with them or the power supply. They are willing to return for credit, >> refund or replacement, but I would hate to return it and find it OK and >> the power supply the problem. I just don't have access to an 800W or >> larger PS. Do I need the DVD and HDD installed to boot to BIOS? Mine >> are SATA, and the 400W PS doesn't have SATA connections. It probably >> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. Thanks for the >> info on the router. I think that will be my protection. I remember I >> had a concern about when I am sharing data with the torrent system, do I >> open vulnerability and/or am I able to send out data when I have the >> firewall? >> >> Steven >> >> > > 400 may be a little small for all parts to work, but it should be enough > for the BIOS to start. You don't need hard disks and dvds (or anything > except the video card and the keyboard :) ). I'd be more worried about > the power supply outputting the wrong tensions (i.e. too low on some or > all the cables) than about its power. > HTH, > I. > > I reset the jumpers on the MB again today to make sure I was starting in default. Once I check the power to the processor, I will be relatively certain that it is a board problem. They have already agreed to replace it. I just want to be sure it is the PS before I return it. I don't now if I mentioned, but I purchased a Power Supply Tester and it will be here in a couple of days. I also bought some Arctic Silver. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 02:29:10 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:29:10 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire Appology In-Reply-To: References: <49364533.6090002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49374076.9050107@sbcglobal.net> Knapp wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Steven Vollom > wrote: > >> After playing the mid-level game of Spider Solitaire, it took a while to >> remember how I played before. I told a lie in my explanation of the win >> percentage, but not on purpose. Using Spider Solitaire as a memory >> exercise, I could not do it with the easiest game for it was too little >> competition. The second level caused too many losses to keep me >> interested, so I would not start a game until I had at lease two runs of >> three to start out the game. I would just redeal until that came up. >> With that much of a head start, the game became winnable enough to keep >> it interesting. So winning percentages became high because I didn't >> start a tough game. Anyway, it has been more than three years since I >> played, and I wasn't playing to prove anything; I was just playing to >> exercise my memory. I am embarrassed, because I lost about 10 games in >> a row, when I started playing again. It wasn't until that happened, >> that I remembered how I got winning to happen enough to want to continue >> to play. I don't want you guys to think I can't be reasonably trusted. >> I try very hard to not lie anymore. I am ashamed when I do and don't >> realize it. I don't do it on purpose anymore. >> >> Steven >> > > In my religion, Zen Buddhism there is a precept not to lie but to tell > the truth. This is a great way to see your true self. When you stop > lying even little lies you tell yourself become starkly appenent and > this then lets up clean up our act. > > What you have done is not telling a lie it is more just a mistake. > Having bad intention is very important to well done evil lying! :-) > > Wikipedia > Lie > A lie (also called prevarication), is a type of deception in the form > of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive > others, often with the further intention to maintain a secret or > reputation, protect someone's feelings or to avoid a punishment. > > Wikipedia > Truth > The meaning of the word truth extends from honesty, good faith, and > sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in > particular.[1] The term has no single definition about which a > majority of professional philosophers and scholars agree, and various > theories of truth continue to be debated. > > I would highly recommend learning to play the game GO to help your > memory and be sure to eat lots of fish and green veggies! > quarry is good with gnu go as the engine > I mostly play using qgo on the IGS server so that I can play real people. > some good sites are: > > http://senseis.xmp.net/?Go > http://goproblems.com/ > http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/ > http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp > http://www.usgo.org/resources/whatisgo.html > > Don't expect to start winning until you have played for a year! A > great way to learn to be humble! It is also a great way to understand > how China thinks about taking over the world in it's own way. > Hi Doug, It takes too long to tell, however, I didn't remember even how to play the game, it had been so long. And until I played about a dozen games, my memory did not refresh. Suffice it to say, I don't like to practice losing. It isn't really a big deal with me, however, most skill games are made so that you lose about 10 for every one you win. It may be the reason, I wasn't much of a game player all my life. Because Spider Solitaire was such a losing experience, I changed the rules and made a more fun game out of it. It still gave me the mental exercise to help improve my waning memory, I just was able to experience the feeling of victory 8 out of 10 times instead of 1 out of ten. What I ended up with was not an easier game, just a more gratifying game. And a million can play at one time and there still be only one winner. That makes it much like Texas Holdum. One person can play too, and still not feel like he is cheating, for it is a different game. Everyone has the same chances. Time is the enemy. I just changed what constituted winning and eliminated the regular rules in favor of a couple of new ones. You would love it if you liked Spider Solitaire. If you want I will send instructions on how to play. It really could catch on. It is not tiring and you are always having fun and not feeling defeated. The explanation takes a couple of letter sized pages of writing. Let me know if you want it. I can cut and paste it into an email. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 02:36:43 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:36:43 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4935CEB2.30707@sbcglobal.net> <49364113.2050401@drofle.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4937423B.70602@sbcglobal.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have problems sending with Kmail too. I have been working on it for >>>> months. I really want to change from Thunderbird, but I can only >>>> receive with Kmail; I can't send. I am in the process of changing to >>>> Konqueror from Firefox, too. I am in the getting used to the >>>> differences stage. Soon I will cut the umbilical cord. >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> My only possible response is why7?? I have tried kmail but never again. >>> And I do like konqueror as a file manager but not as a browser. It just >>> shows one of the strengths of Linux, everyone can easily set their >>> computer up their way so easily. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> >> One thing I like is the speed. Another is being able to default print >> size on everything. I just got my first large screen monitor, a 22". I >> love it. I can increase print size to 16 point and still not have to >> scroll horizontally. It doesn't work that way with Thunderbird. >> >> I have a feeling that if I could get the smtp or send capability to >> function, I would learn how to become comfortable with its differences. >> > > what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the > "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after > some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well > as one provider where I have a unique port open. > > Sinclair > > My ports are 465 and 995 the 465 being smtp. I have tried exactly what you suggest several times and it just doesn't work. I doesn't work manually either. Steven From stan10x10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 02:45:38 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:45:38 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> <200812030130.49185.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812031845m7c2ec75dse4e0822a334d5ecf@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > > > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list > /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do > > not know how to edit the file. > > If you're using Dolphin in KDE 3.5.10 go to /etc/apt/ and right click on > sources.list. Select Actions > Edit as root. Type in your password and > KWrite should open allowing you to edit and save sources.list. > > If not, you could open Konsole, cd to /etc/apt and type > > kdesudo kate source.list > > or > > kdesudo kwrite source.list > > input your password, edit, and save. > > -Jerry > -- > ============================================= > Jerry Lapham > Monroe, OH 45050 > rjlapham at cinci.rr.com > ============================================= > Does fuzzy logic tickle? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > My appology I see I did not give you adequate information. I am running 8.10 64 bit and using kde 4.1. I used the directions for dolphin hoping they would be simular, I right clicked and did not get the option to edit as root. I then entered konsole and below you see what happened. uriah at Trimurti:~$ kdesudo kwrite source.list uriah at Trimurti:~$ kdesudo kate source.list kate(6697): createDoc kate(6697) KateSessionManager::KateSessionManager: LOCAL SESSION DIR: "/root/.kde/share/apps/kate/sessions" kate(6697) KateApp::initKate: Setting KATE_PID: ' 6697 ' kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(6697) KateMainWindow::KateMainWindow: **************************************************************************** 0x1b18320 kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(6697) KateDocManager::slotDocumentNameChanged: docname changed: "Untitled" -----> "Untitled" kate(6697) KateDocManager::slotDocumentNameChanged: docname changed: "Untitled" -----> "source.list" kate(6697) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kded4 kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 kbuildsycoca4 running... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update kdeinit4: preparing to launch kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4 kate(6697): Couldn't start knotify from knotify4.desktop: "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/knotify4'." kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: true kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(6697) KateApp::startupKate: KateApplication::init finished successful kate(6697) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: true QObject: Do not delete object, 'file', during its event handler! QThreadStorage: Thread 0x180d860 exited after QThreadStorage 2147483643 destroyed uriah at Trimurti:~$ sudo usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value] {-i | -s | } usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ... uriah at Trimurti:~$ cd to /etc/apt bash: cd: to: No such file or directory uriah at Trimurti:~$ and then uriah at Trimurti:~$ cd etc/apt bash: cd: etc/apt: No such file or directory uriah at Trimurti:~$ cd /etc/apt uriah at Trimurti:/etc/apt$ kdesudo kate source.list kate(7058): createDoc kate(7058) KateSessionManager::KateSessionManager: LOCAL SESSION DIR: "/root/.kde/share/apps/kate/sessions" kate(7058) KateApp::initKate: Setting KATE_PID: ' 7058 ' kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(7058) KateMainWindow::KateMainWindow: **************************************************************************** 0x1f3e820 kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(7058) KateDocManager::slotDocumentNameChanged: docname changed: "Untitled" -----> "Untitled" kate(7058) KateDocManager::slotDocumentNameChanged: docname changed: "Untitled" -----> "source.list" kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: true kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: false kate(7058) KateApp::startupKate: KateApplication::init finished successful kate(7058) KateViewDocumentProxyModel::updateBackgrounds: true QThreadStorage: Thread 0x1d69860 exited after QThreadStorage 2147483643 destroyed uriah at Trimurti:/etc/apt$ and uriah at Trimurti:/etc/apt$ kdesudo kwrite source.list uriah at Trimurti:/etc/apt$ kdesudo kwrite source.list uriah at Trimurti:/etc/apt$ and the result is command not found -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stan10x10 at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 02:48:54 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:48:54 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <69c7ddfb0812022031o5880dd02u81a4094a9d4814e8@mail.gmail.com> <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812031848r85e994g52617f6c0c0de480@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, wrote: > > > Showing us the error would help a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Lindsay Mathieson > > > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > > > > > > > --- Original message --- > > > Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > > From: uriah heep > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM > > > > > > Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing apt > > > and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the error. > I > > > am quite new at this and quite ignorant. > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > Here it is > > > > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list > /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i do > > not know how to edit the file. > > At first don't delete it, just comment it out by putting a " # " in front > of > the line that you think needs deleting. If everything works Ok then delete > it. > > by looking at sources list, you should be able to figure out the line > format > and distinguish what belongs and what doesn't > -- > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net > > When I try to edit I get the message I do not have permission to save > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 02:59:10 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:59:10 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) Message-ID: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. 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URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 4 03:06:05 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:06:05 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0812031848r85e994g52617f6c0c0de480@mail.gmail.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> <69c7ddfb0812031848r85e994g52617f6c0c0de480@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812032206.05744.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 9:48:54 pm uriah heep wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David McGlone wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, wrote: > > > > Showing us the error would help a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Lindsay Mathieson > > > > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original message --- > > > > Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > From: uriah heep > > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM > > > > > > > > Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing > > > > apt and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the > > > > error. > > > > I > > > > > > am quite new at this and quite ignorant. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > Here it is > > > > > > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list > > > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > > > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > > > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i > > > do not know how to edit the file. > > > > At first don't delete it, just comment it out by putting a " # " in front > > of > > the line that you think needs deleting. If everything works Ok then > > delete it. > > > > by looking at sources list, you should be able to figure out the line > > format > > and distinguish what belongs and what doesn't > > -- > > David M. > > http://www.dmcentral.net > > > > When I try to edit I get the message I do not have permission to save You need to open the file as root. open konsole and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list Edit & Save. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 03:19:11 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:19:11 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49366E6D.3080003@gmail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <493649C8.7050904@sbcglobal.net> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <49366E6D.3080003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49374C2F.7@sbcglobal.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > nepal wrote: > >> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 09:17:33 O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the >>> "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after >>> some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well >>> as one provider where I have a unique port open. >>> >>> Sinclair >>> >> so are you saying you have three different transports available? >> >> I couldn't get this to work correctly either, It drove me so nuts yesterday I >> gave up on it and installed 7.10 on a separate drive. Then when I got it >> working there I went back to 8.04 and retried, got send to work, but it still >> f***s about with the transport to use for the send and invariably chooses the >> wrong one. So I found with googlemail that I could set that up to access my >> other (ISP) mail accounts and did it that way and now just have a single >> transport. Incidentally, googlemail says set the port to 465 which doesn't >> work, but if I hit "check what the server supports" it sets the port to 25, >> TLS,PLAIN, and does work. go figure eh. I also noticed in 8.04 that some of >> the changes made to the kmail settings are not reflected instantly and that >> is part of the reason kmail was so f****ing awkward yesterday. >> >> > The "normal mail port 25" to me is set up: > port 25 (duh) > requires authentication > remember password > on tab Security: > Encryption "None" > Authentication Method "Login" > > using a SSL: > port 465 > authentication > remember password > on tab Security: > Encryption "SSL" > Authentication Method "Plain" > > at the moment not using gmail/googlemail on Kmail but try port 587 if > 465 flunks. > I tried port 587, but it did not work either. Thanks! Steven > Sinclair > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 03:39:28 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:39:28 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <493750F0.1080302@sbcglobal.net> Wulfy wrote: > Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:10 +0100 >>> From: iodine at runbox.no >>> Subject: Re: Why use a virtual machine? **RESOLVED** >>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >>> Message-ID: <4934321E.4040206 at runbox.no> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> The only thing I miss from Windows is Spider Solitaire, it was >>>>>>> entertaining once in a while. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's available in the KDE card games :) (KPath I seem to remember?) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> kpat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> That's KPatience, one of the first few things I looked for, it looks >> like the same set Vista's got, prefer freecell myself >> brian >> >> >> > There's a program called Spider: > > wulfy at wulfy-desktop:~$ apt-cache show > spider > Package: > spider > Priority: > optional > Section: > universe/games > Installed-Size: > 444 > Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers > > Original-Maintainer: Dale Scheetz (Dwarf #1) > > Architecture: > amd64 > Version: 1.2-4ubuntu2 > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libsm6, libx11-6, > libxaw7, libxext6, libxmu6, libxpm4, libxt6 > Filename: pool/universe/s/spider/spider_1.2-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb > Size: 118406 > MD5sum: 14c833e180582830fb3e072f191db02d > SHA1: 588f5c5eb00a6ea312489a88914b239a09206cd1 > SHA256: 9fbad00f2ef682359de1184b1b356bf6ae677351f0186166efe642f38cbf4bd0 > Description: A two deck solitaire game for the X Window System > Spider is delivered in two forms: small.spider is for systems without high > resolution screens so the board will fit on the screen; round.spider has > prettier card backs but takes up more room on the screen. > . > The default is round.spider. If you wish to use small.spider, either call > it directly, or change the link /usr/games/spider to point to > small.spider instead of round.spider. > Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Origin: Ubuntu > > It might be what you're looking for... :@) > > Thanks Wulfmann, I am so stupid. I had it installed. It was in the kpatience game. When I opened the 2nd level Spider Solitaire, it plays almost the same as the Microsoft version. I like it. It has been 3 years since I played it. It took a dozen losses before I found out what I had done to get the high win results I experienced. I can't stand to play 9 losing games to win one, so I changed the rules. It took a long time before my memory refreshed to what I had done. My game is a lot better. Everyone can win 80% of their games and still feel tested. I was playing the game for different reasons than most people. I was using it as an exercise to restore my memory. I played very fast, requiring snap decisions and fast calculations. I forced myself to play faster than I could evaluate the data to get my mind to work harder. Still I have losing, so I didn't play the hands that I knew were futile. I found starting hands that have about an 8 out of 10 probability of victory, because of the head start they give the player. Then I determined that you didn't win, if you didn't finish. And you have to finish the game to stop playing. Therefore, time became the challenging factor. You would play until all the cards were retired. There were no other rules in my game. You could skip 100 hands to find one you thought you had a chance of finishing, but all those hands you passed over took up time, so when you finally achieve success and retire the total board, the time it takes you determines your success. I remember I completed one game in 98 moves using two suits. It was my fastest even though I didn't keep a record of time then. It may take 150 moves to win, when there is nothing you can do to cheat. It may take 500 moves. Surely a 500 move game takes a long time, but in the end, you have removed all the cards from the board and felt some sort of victory. A million players could compete this way and have but one winner in a very challenging contest. Like I said, no rules except finishing to be a winner. So if you think backing up to a move you wish you hadn't made is a good idea, you do it. You just can't retrieve the time you lost which ultimately counts against you. If you want, I will send you the rules and an explanation of play, but don't play the game if you don't want to get hooked. Unlike other games it gives too much pleasure and the feeling of too much accomplishment, and actually becomes a very sophisticated game where stradegy is important. Still as for me, I use it to help improve my memory. It is not so much a game. Cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 03:46:12 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:46:12 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a > commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > > If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me > privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against the > 4.2 beta. I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. Thanks for the Help Lindsay, Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao and Cordially, Steven I usually would say Ciao Bello or Bella, but I have heard the name Lindsay in a variety of spellings for both male and female. Didn't mean to leave out the handsome or beautiful, I am told that means. > > > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 4 07:00:47 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:00:47 +0100 Subject: Power supply In-Reply-To: <49370055.7000007@sbcglobal.net> References: <493610D9.6050400@sbcglobal.net> <200812030722.30190.kassube@gmx.net> <49363772.4020002@sbcglobal.net> <493643F3.8040305@sbcglobal.net> <49364E95.6000307@yahoo.it> <49370055.7000007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: >> It probably >> >>>> doesn't have the processor power supply plug either. >>>> >> I assume you are referring to the (nearly) square connector... >> >> It should have one. Have a look. If there is none, the PSU might be to >> old to be used for your testing purposes. >> > It occurs to me that i haven't verified if the plug I am thinking about > is actually power to the Processor. Someone on the List described and > named it for me and I have it in my memory that way. It is actually an > 8 pin plug very near the processor. It also has a 4 pin that is joined > to the cable that I do not use, but it is an 8 pin power source. That > is why I thought that a 400 watt PS may not have the proper cable. > Quads use more power, don't they? They do, indeed, but it is not such a big deal. What eats power theses days is graphics boards or even a couple of them. You will use integrated graphics (for now), so 400 W will do well. Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 4 07:03:19 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:03:19 +0100 Subject: How can I make my current project the primary consideration for the use of memory. In-Reply-To: <49373048.5070808@sbcglobal.net> References: <49373048.5070808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > For a while, I will still have an under-memoried computer. Is there a > way for the thing I am currently doing on the computer to take priority > from memory resources while torrents are still being downloaded and > Compiz is gobbling up its requirements. Compiz seems to be the primary > offender. Since I installed it, I have to wait on anything that > requires memory. TIA > > Steven > If your computer is unter-memoried or underpowered otherwise, the best thing you can do is diable compiz and live a happy life without it for now, until your new powerhouse powers up. Kind regards Eberhard From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu Dec 4 07:50:43 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:50:43 +0000 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49378BD3.7090801@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager >>> >>> >> As I said, "kpat". kpat is the package, KPatience may be the actual >> game. You really need to learn to use the basic commands of your >> system. Searching for kpatience with "apt-cache search" finds kpat. >> > I would give anything to be able to do that. I have so many things that > I am resolving right now, I can't find the time to find the source for > that tutorial. Let me ask you this, do I type into the terminal the > following: *sudo apt-cashe search kpatience *to get that result. I ^^^^cache > don't know when to use sudo and when it isn't necessary. Additionally, sudo is needed when working with package managers. If you are not sure when sudo is needed, try without it. You will get an error when it's needed. > I will have to practice many times before I am able to remember what I > am doing and what the anticipated result will be. (Old w/fading memory). > What's the use of memory for this? To remember long strings of commands and their use is the right job for a file. HTH, I. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 13:19:53 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:19:53 -0500 Subject: How can I make my current project the primary consideration for the use of memory. In-Reply-To: References: <49373048.5070808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4937D8F9.9010909@sbcglobal.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> For a while, I will still have an under-memoried computer. Is there a >> way for the thing I am currently doing on the computer to take priority >> from memory resources while torrents are still being downloaded and >> Compiz is gobbling up its requirements. Compiz seems to be the primary >> offender. Since I installed it, I have to wait on anything that >> requires memory. TIA >> >> Steven >> >> > If your computer is unter-memoried or underpowered otherwise, the best > thing you can do is diable compiz and live a happy life without it for > now, until your new powerhouse powers up. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > I kind of tried that. The icons that showed as running on the shortcut bar that drops down, I closed them with the quit option at the bottom, but the features still work. When I rotate the mouse wheel, the cube continues to spin. At this moment things seem to move better, however, last night, it was difficult to drag a window. In fact just to get the cursor from one side of the screen to the other is an effort. It feels like the mouse is having difficulty holding the item. It would drop the window and I would have to grab and drag over and over to get the window to move. I changed the batteries in the mouse, so I don't think it is the mouse. I suppose I can remove Emerald and Compiz. I guess I was hoping they were not the reason I am having difficulties. I really like their function. Have you heard of this problem before with Compiz users? When I get my new computer working, I am definately going to use Compiz. I very much like the cube feature. When I first used it, it was just a very attractive feature with aesthetical benefits. Being an artist all my life, things like that are more important I think. Nonetheless, the practical function that you notice in use after a while is considerable. You find yourself using the feature all the time, not for aesthetics, but because it functions better than the way you used to accomplish the tasks it serves. In any event it is not a really big deal. I can live without it, or at least until the 8gb of memory are in use. It is just working with a sluggish computer is annoying after being used to the more snappy way it worked before. Eberhard, I sure enjoy our friendship. I hope it lasts. It is nice to have someone to talk to. Sincerely, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 13:42:12 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:42:12 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <49378BD3.7090801@yahoo.it> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> <49378BD3.7090801@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <4937DE34.5050306@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I couldn't find KPatience in apt-get or Adept Package Manager >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> As I said, "kpat". kpat is the package, KPatience may be the actual >>> game. You really need to learn to use the basic commands of your >>> system. Searching for kpatience with "apt-cache search" finds kpat. >>> >>> >> I would give anything to be able to do that. I have so many things that >> I am resolving right now, I can't find the time to find the source for >> that tutorial. Let me ask you this, do I type into the terminal the >> following: *sudo apt-cashe search kpatience *to get that result. I >> > ^^^^cache > > > >> don't know when to use sudo and when it isn't necessary. Additionally, >> > > sudo is needed when working with package managers. If you are not sure > when sudo is needed, try without it. You will get an error when it's needed. > > > >> I will have to practice many times before I am able to remember what I >> am doing and what the anticipated result will be. (Old w/fading memory). >> >> > > What's the use of memory for this? To remember long strings of commands > and their use is the right job for a file. > HTH, > I. > Ignazio, I am laughing right now. You all are so wonderful, in trying to help me. If I understand your last comment, are you talking about computer memory or my personal memory? '(Old w/fading memory)' refers to me. I am struggling to keep my brain functioning. I am getting old and like everyone old, I have memory loss. It may seem as though I am not trying, but for quite a while now, I have been on the computer 20 hours a day, learning and solving problems. Because of my understanding limitations, I have to work at it. And if you guys don't lose patience with me, eventually I will get it all. I am a person who is not really stupid; I can do some pretty incredible things that most others can not, but I have a learning disability. In time, we will be on the same channel, but for now, I am working as hard as I can, just trying to adjust the focus. I suspect now that you have read a few my posts, you probably think you are talking to a rock. I am laughing again, because this is something I have to live with, but when I get hooked into this thing you may have trouble keeping up with me. Who knows, it has happened before. It is unfair for me to put you all through this, but it is the only way I can proceed. One day, and I think pretty soon, I will say, "I get it" and we will seamlessly walk through the most complex of problems in the operation of computers, and I will be on the same page. I will contribute. You will scratch your head and say, "what happened to him, I thought he was a rock and could not absorb anything." I can't wait for that day, because I want very much to be able to help others the way you have been helping me. I am laughing again, because I love you guys so much. It would drive me nuts to have to teach someone like me. You're just great, much more so than you will ever probably know. Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, Steven > > > From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 14:42:12 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:42:12 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files Message-ID: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. I have found this to be the case no matter which machines I am using, or which Kubuntu versions, for a few years. I do not know if this is a Kubuntu or more general Ubuntu issue as I've only used Kubuntu. When the issue crops up, how can I determine the cause? Today I am trying to move 30+ GB from a Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5.10) laptop to a Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) desktop. Each time I try the move gets stuck on a different file, sometimes earlier and sometime later. The issue is reproducable, and is not confined to the machines or Kubuntu versions currently in use. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 4 15:19:58 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:19:58 -0400 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2654224.IEuHXBKzin@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror > get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer > dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. I know you said "literally", but is that literally in English, or is "stuck" your translation? I often see, in English, "stalled", which appears to happen when any KDE operation is trying to move data over the network and the sending side is slow. It seems to be some kind of timeout, but I haven't found a solution (short of using wget for some purposes, which is really no solution at all). -- derek From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Thu Dec 4 16:14:34 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:14:34 +0000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20081204161434.034f49c1@graham-desktop> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:46:12 -0500 Steven Vollom wrote: > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > > Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > > requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. [snipped] Just coming into this thread, so maybe I missed something, but you can use your ISP's SMTP send account with Yahoo to send out mail. Does this help? -- Graham Todd From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu Dec 4 16:39:40 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:39:40 +0000 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <4937DE34.5050306@sbcglobal.net> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> <49378BD3.7090801@yahoo.it> <4937DE34.5050306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493807CC.4090003@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> I will have to practice many times before I am able to remember what >>> I am doing and what the anticipated result will be. (Old w/fading >>> memory). >>> >>> >> >> What's the use of memory for this? To remember long strings of >> commands and their use is the right job for a file. >> HTH, >> I. >> > Ignazio, > > I am laughing right now. You all are so wonderful, in trying to help > me. If I understand your last comment, are you talking about computer > memory or my personal memory? '(Old w/fading memory)' refers to me. I > am struggling to keep my brain functioning. I am getting old and like > everyone old, I have memory loss. No, I mean that a file is the place where to keep all this details, while you should just commit to memory how to open the file :) then you will automagically remember the complex command lines and what they do. That's how I do it, I have only to know how to search through the mails or read some man pages. There is no point in remembering every detail of every command, it's enough to know how to find them. I. From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu Dec 4 16:41:33 2008 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:41:33 +0000 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror > get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer > dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. I have found > this to be the case no matter which machines I am using, or which > Kubuntu versions, for a few years. I do not know if this is a Kubuntu > or more general Ubuntu issue as I've only used Kubuntu. > > When the issue crops up, how can I determine the cause? Today I am > trying to move 30+ GB from a Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5.10) laptop to a > Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) desktop. Each time I try the move gets stuck on > a different file, sometimes earlier and sometime later. The issue is > reproducable, and is not confined to the machines or Kubuntu versions > currently in use. > I've seen this often using the fish protocol. When I switched to sftp the issue disappeared (so far). HTH, I. From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 4 16:53:33 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:53:33 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 8.10: firefox filepicker Message-ID: Hi, I am using Kubuntu 8.10, 32bit with the latest upgrades. Firefox (from Ubuntu) works great. Only the file picker annoys me: Whenever I download a file, a gnomish file dialogue asks where I like to put the file. This dialogue is ugly, ok but the real trouble: --Its opening size is tiny. I need to enlarge it to get to see something --whenever I create a directory this is duely done, but until 8.04, I had it open the directory immediately, now I need to open it manually, which is a badkstep in usability. Everyone got a decent KDE file dialogue for my firefox? Thanks much for help Eberhard From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 17:19:57 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:19:57 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <2654224.IEuHXBKzin@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <2654224.IEuHXBKzin@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812040919u50989066k195e5077d4f8d33f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/4 Derek Broughton : > Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror >> get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer >> dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. > > I know you said "literally", but is that literally in English, or is > "stuck" your translation? I often see, in English, "stalled", which > appears to happen when any KDE operation is trying to move data over the > network and the sending side is slow. It seems to be some kind of > timeout, but I haven't found a solution (short of using wget for some > purposes, which is really no solution at all). It is translated. In Hebrew the word I see is "תקוע" which could also be "stalled" in this sense> id not think that it is a timeout as the transfer rate seems high right up until the point that it happens, and it could happen within one second of initiating the transfer. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 17:20:52 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:20:52 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <880dece00812040920k5589908fw2ae02052dd0fdcd9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/4 Ignazio Palmisano : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror >> get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer >> dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. I have found >> this to be the case no matter which machines I am using, or which >> Kubuntu versions, for a few years. I do not know if this is a Kubuntu >> or more general Ubuntu issue as I've only used Kubuntu. >> >> When the issue crops up, how can I determine the cause? Today I am >> trying to move 30+ GB from a Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5.10) laptop to a >> Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) desktop. Each time I try the move gets stuck on >> a different file, sometimes earlier and sometime later. The issue is >> reproducable, and is not confined to the machines or Kubuntu versions >> currently in use. >> > > I've seen this often using the fish protocol. When I switched to sftp > the issue disappeared (so far). > HTH, > I. > I should have been more specific, I am using the fish psuedo-protocol. I wil try with sftp and report back. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 4 18:17:55 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:17:55 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812041317.55257.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > > Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a > > commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > > > > If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me > > privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against the > > 4.2 beta. > > I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way > that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a > nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to > start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package > for whatever. I am a believer, finally. SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 4 18:16:13 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:16:13 -0400 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <2654224.IEuHXBKzin@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00812040919u50989066k195e5077d4f8d33f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1608519.9SSxHA7Vit@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/4 Derek Broughton : >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that >>> Konqueror get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The >>> file transfer dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. >> >> I know you said "literally", but is that literally in English, or is >> "stuck" your translation? I often see, in English, "stalled", which >> appears to happen when any KDE operation is trying to move data over >> the >> network and the sending side is slow. It seems to be some kind of >> timeout, but I haven't found a solution (short of using wget for some >> purposes, which is really no solution at all). > > It is translated. In Hebrew the word I see is "תקוע" which could also > be "stalled" in this sense> id not think that it is a timeout as the > transfer rate seems high right up until the point that it happens, and > it could happen within one second of initiating the transfer. It happens to me often behind this firewall, where there's clearly some kind of throttling going on. I'll start downloading a file at 300KiB/s or so, and after just a few seconds the breaks come on and it quickly drops to 20KiB/s or slower, and then I'll expect to see "stalled" pretty soon. -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 18:54:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:54:56 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812041317.55257.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> <200812041317.55257.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <49382780.2060008@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a >>> commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>> >>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against the >>> 4.2 beta. >>> >> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way >> that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to >> start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package >> for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >> > > SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > Dear David, I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. Thanks for trying. Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 18:57:27 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:57:27 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <1608519.9SSxHA7Vit@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <2654224.IEuHXBKzin@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00812040919u50989066k195e5077d4f8d33f@mail.gmail.com> <1608519.9SSxHA7Vit@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812041057x3a10537cv600a05e266208c81@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/4 Derek Broughton : > It happens to me often behind this firewall, where there's clearly some > kind of throttling going on. I'll start downloading a file at 300KiB/s > or so, and after just a few seconds the breaks come on and it quickly > drops to 20KiB/s or slower, and then I'll expect to see "stalled" pretty > soon. This is on a LAN, with nothing but a NAT router between the computers. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 18:59:55 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:59:55 +0200 Subject: Where is the services menu in Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1)? Message-ID: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> In Kubuntu 8.01 with KDE 4.1, where does a user configure what services (bluetooth, ftp, ssh) are running? System Setting has the KDE Services menu, but that does not include non-KDE services such as FTP. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 19:05:37 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:05:37 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <20081204161434.034f49c1@graham-desktop> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <49375284.6090609@sbcglobal.net> <20081204161434.034f49c1@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <49382A01.40809@sbcglobal.net> Graham Todd wrote: > On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:46:12 -0500 > Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>> > [snipped] > > Just coming into this thread, so maybe I missed something, but you can > use your ISP's SMTP send account with Yahoo to send out mail. > > Does this help? > I don't understand, Graham. I thought I was using my isp's smtp send account. The address I have been using is smtp.att.yahoo.com. Is that my ISP's send account? My email address is stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net, however, sbcglobal changed to att.yahoo a couple of years ago. My email address never changed though. Is it possible for something to break within the software that can just make part of it not work? Is there a command that would find and correct that? I am using so much of the List's time on this. Should I just forget it until I install my new computer? Thanks for your attempt. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 19:15:43 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:15:43 -0500 Subject: Spider Solitaire In-Reply-To: <493807CC.4090003@yahoo.it> References: <4935009A.5060202@btinternet.com> <4935FC15.1080204@tiscali.co.uk> <49361C56.1010105@sbcglobal.net> <6273917.M283ZKTGyq@cedar.serverforest.com> <4937368B.3000305@sbcglobal.net> <49378BD3.7090801@yahoo.it> <4937DE34.5050306@sbcglobal.net> <493807CC.4090003@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49382C5F.6050500@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: >> >>> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> I will have to practice many times before I am able to remember what >>>> I am doing and what the anticipated result will be. (Old w/fading >>>> memory). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> What's the use of memory for this? To remember long strings of >>> commands and their use is the right job for a file. >>> HTH, >>> I. >>> >>> >> Ignazio, >> >> I am laughing right now. You all are so wonderful, in trying to help >> me. If I understand your last comment, are you talking about computer >> memory or my personal memory? '(Old w/fading memory)' refers to me. I >> am struggling to keep my brain functioning. I am getting old and like >> everyone old, I have memory loss. >> > > No, I mean that a file is the place where to keep all this details, > while you should just commit to memory how to open the file :) then you > will automagically remember the complex command lines and what they do. > That's how I do it, I have only to know how to search through the mails > or read some man pages. There is no point in remembering every detail of > every command, it's enough to know how to find them. > I. > > > I am keeping my technical emails in a saved folder within the TBird program, but it is just huge with information. Most of the emails have multiple helps within them. I have been planning to organize those helps and create some kind of file that would help me get to the correct code of a reoccuring problem, however, I have been so busy solving so many different problems that have collected over the past couple of years, I haven't had time yet. Right now, I spend several hours each day just answering the emails I receive. But is that what you mean? When I am sure I understand your advice, I will take it. Thanks for the help. It bothers me a lot having so much done for me, that I know with a little instruction in a way that I can retain would reduce a great deal. I am trying so hard that I seem alway to be in a state of stress. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 19:21:14 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:21:14 -0500 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49382DAA.7000409@sbcglobal.net> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Often when I copy / move files between computers I find that Konqueror >> get 'stuck' and the copy / move fails in the middle. The file transfer >> dialog litteraly says "stuck" and no more files move. I have found >> this to be the case no matter which machines I am using, or which >> Kubuntu versions, for a few years. I do not know if this is a Kubuntu >> or more general Ubuntu issue as I've only used Kubuntu. >> >> When the issue crops up, how can I determine the cause? Today I am >> trying to move 30+ GB from a Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5.10) laptop to a >> Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) desktop. Each time I try the move gets stuck on >> a different file, sometimes earlier and sometime later. The issue is >> reproducable, and is not confined to the machines or Kubuntu versions >> currently in use. >> >> > > I've seen this often using the fish protocol. When I switched to sftp > the issue disappeared (so far). > HTH, > I. > > > I realize I am a weak link for helps, however, in the past I had a similar sounding problem internally between partitions. When I was unable to resolve the matter, I sent the data in smaller chunks and succeeded. I am thinking like 5 to 10gb chunks. If it works, at least you get the data transferred, even though you may still have the problem, and you can still work the problem. Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 19:26:43 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:26:43 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <49382DAA.7000409@sbcglobal.net> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> <49382DAA.7000409@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812041126y6bb962c6u56187739bd59bb71@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/4 Steven Vollom : > I realize I am a weak link for helps, however, in the past I had a > similar sounding problem internally between partitions. When I was > unable to resolve the matter, I sent the data in smaller chunks and > succeeded. I am thinking like 5 to 10gb chunks. If it works, at least > you get the data transferred, even though you may still have the > problem, and you can still work the problem. > Thanks, Steven, that is the work around procedure that I am currently employing. However, I see that I am working in 10-50 MB chunks and it is taking all day. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Dec 4 19:40:27 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:40:27 +0100 Subject: Where is the services menu in Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1)? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812042040.27632.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 04 December 2008 19:59, Dotan Cohen wrote: > In Kubuntu 8.01 with KDE 4.1, where does a user configure what > services (bluetooth, ftp, ssh) are running? System Setting has the KDE > Services menu, but that does not include non-KDE services such as FTP. > > -- > Dotan Cohen Hi Dotan. Try an apt-get install sysv-rc-conf, then sudo sysv-rc-conf, and you should have a list of services running, and not running. May be best to maximise KDE's Konsole for it to display properly, otherwise it complains. Nigel. From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 20:39:13 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:39:13 +0200 Subject: KDE animations choppy, video flashes Message-ID: <880dece00812041239t4e60c1dbj8a395ea562d0a441@mail.gmail.com> On a machine I built with an Asus motherboard with onboard ATI graphics I installed Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) and the proprietary ATI drivers. On this machine the composite effects are very choppy, and video flashes when it plays. Where should I start debugging? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 4 20:44:08 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:44:08 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49382780.2060008@sbcglobal.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041317.55257.d.mcglone@att.net> <49382780.2060008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812041544.08346.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a > >>> commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>> > >>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me > >>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against the > >>> 4.2 beta. > >> > >> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way > >> that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a > >> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to > >> start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package > >> for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > > > > SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > > Dear David, > > I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and > does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 20:44:29 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:44:29 -0500 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <880dece00812041126y6bb962c6u56187739bd59bb71@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> <49382DAA.7000409@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812041126y6bb962c6u56187739bd59bb71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4938412D.5060204@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/4 Steven Vollom : > >> I realize I am a weak link for helps, however, in the past I had a >> similar sounding problem internally between partitions. When I was >> unable to resolve the matter, I sent the data in smaller chunks and >> succeeded. I am thinking like 5 to 10gb chunks. If it works, at least >> you get the data transferred, even though you may still have the >> problem, and you can still work the problem. >> >> > > Thanks, Steven, that is the work around procedure that I am currently > employing. However, I see that I am working in 10-50 MB chunks and it > is taking all day. > > I wish I could help more; I sure would, if I had the knowledge. Have a great day. I hope someone helps you soon. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 20:52:33 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:52:33 -0500 Subject: KDE animations choppy, video flashes In-Reply-To: <880dece00812041239t4e60c1dbj8a395ea562d0a441@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812041239t4e60c1dbj8a395ea562d0a441@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49384311.6030700@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On a machine I built with an Asus motherboard with onboard ATI > graphics I installed Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1) and the proprietary ATI > drivers. On this machine the composite effects are very choppy, and > video flashes when it plays. Where should I start debugging? > > Wow! Dotan, I can't help, but someone will, this is a problem with a lot of recent attention. I think I read about some progress recently. You just wrote on another matter thin I read this post. I am building a computer now too. I have an AMD quad core with an ASUS Mempipe Motherboard. To start with I am only going to use the onboard video and sound, but Video is nVidia 8400 GForce so I will be listening in avidly to response to your post. You won't believe it, but my new computer all started with raising my current memory from 512mb to 1gb. As the kids would say, Go Figure. Anyway, the new machine will have 8gb of memory due to an incredible bid I made on Ebay. I can't wait to get it running. Good luck with your solution. This is the best forum in the world; I am sure someone will come up to the plate and hit a homer for you. If you don't understand baseball you won't understand that. There is a sharp bunch following this List, and the help is spectacular. Cheers! No need to respond, Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 20:53:09 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:53:09 +0200 Subject: Where is the services menu in Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1)? In-Reply-To: <200812042040.27632.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> <200812042040.27632.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00812041253i699a5a91r6689054df69ad40@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/4 Nigel Henry : > Hi Dotan. Try an apt-get install sysv-rc-conf, then sudo sysv-rc-conf, and you > should have a list of services running, and not running. May be best to > maximise KDE's Konsole for it to display properly, otherwise it complains. > Thanks, that is what I was looking for. I am surprised that there is no longer a GUI version built into Kubuntu, I think that there was once, no? Interestingly, I cannot find the entry for FTP dameon, though I have installed the fptd package. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 20:55:08 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:55:08 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812041544.08346.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041317.55257.d.mcglone@att.net> <49382780.2060008@sbcglobal.net> <200812041544.08346.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493843AC.10304@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires a >>>>> commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>> >>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against the >>>>> 4.2 beta. >>>>> >>>> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way >>>> that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to >>>> start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package >>>> for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>> >>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>> >> Dear David, >> >> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and >> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >> > > Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my new one. Cheers! Steven From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 4 21:14:09 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493843AC.10304@sbcglobal.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041544.08346.d.mcglone@att.net> <493843AC.10304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires > >>>>> a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me > >>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against > >>>>> the 4.2 beta. > >>>> > >>>> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way > >>>> that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a > >>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to > >>>> start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package > >>>> for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > >>> > >>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > >> > >> Dear David, > >> > >> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and > >> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > > > > Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > > No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my > new one. What port are you using? -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From art.alexion at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 21:16:20 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:16:20 -0500 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> References: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812041616.20379.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:10:46 am Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > first few bars of a song and > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > brian I think there is a bug in the Xine library. It will stop doing that if you disable cross-fading in the settings. Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Thu Dec 4 21:37:31 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:37:31 +0000 Subject: help needed to use yahoo2mbox script SOLVED In-Reply-To: <200812030544.37168.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812030544.37168.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200812042137.31377.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 05:44:37 nepal wrote: > Can anyone offer some handholding help to use this script. > > I have lost the posts to my yahoo group (which I own) and the > only software I can find that will retrieve all the messages for > the group is Yahoo2mbox, a perl script. There is a manpage > for it but I'm not sure about using the options and parameters. > I've pasted the manpage below. The script itself is aprox 31kb which > I could send offlist if necessary. I have all the dependencies installed. > Any offers please? > > What I do get (maybe) is as follows > the command structure is > > yahoo2mbox [options] [-o ] > > -o mbox, > > does this have to exist? Looking at the resume/noresume options, > it sounds like it will create the mbox file. If not can I just create an > empty mbox file within KMail and use that? > > > ok, even I can get that one. ;) > > [options] > --user=name > this would be the owner name I use for the group? > > --pass=pass > and the list owners password that I use? > > --x-delay=n > not sure what the Yahoo bytes/hour download limit is, > I understand the meaning. so not sure about this. There > are less than 500 messages but some have quite large > attachments. Although my understanding is that yahoo > doesn't archive attachments, which does not really matter, > it is just the messages themselves that I'd like to retrieve. > > would just setting those options be enough to retrieve the > messages? > > any help would be greatly appreciated. > > ============================================ > NAME > yahoo2mbox - Retrieve and store Yahoo! Groups messages > DESCRIPTION > yahoo2mbox Retrieves all messages in the archive of the given group from > Yahoo and stores them in the specified > local MBOX file. If the file exists, the messages not already in the file > are appended to it. > OPTIONS > yahoo2mbox [options] [-o ] > > --help > give the usage message showing the program options > --version > show the program version and exit > --verbose > give verbose informational messages (default) > --quiet > be silent, only error messages are given > -o mbox > save the message to mbox instead of file named groupname > --start=n > start retrieving messages at index n instead of 1 > --end=n > stop retrieving messages at index n instead of the last one > --last=n > retrieve last n messages from the list > --resume > resumes previously interrupted downloading, needed if --start is used, > otherwise is automatic if mailbox already > exists > --noresume > don't resume, overwrites the existing output file if any > --user=name > login to eGroups using this username (default: guest login) > --pass=pass > the password to use for login (default: none) > --cookies=xxx > file to use to store cookies (default: none, 'netscape' uses netscape > cookies file). > --proxy=url > use the given proxy, if 'no' don't use proxy at all (even not the > environment variable http_proxy which is used by > default), may use http://username:password at full.host.name/ notation > --country=xx > use the given country code in order to access localized yahoo groups > (default: none; supported: > ar,br,de,dk,es,fr,it,mx) > --x-yahoo > add X-Yahoo-Message-Num header to the downloaded messages > --x-delay=n > sleep for n seconds between each message request (may be used allow the > script to run continuously without > hitting the Yahoo bytes/hour download limit) > ============================================ > > nepal heehee. it worked. took a bit of trial and error with the options which is what I was trying to avoid by posting this message in the first place, but it worked. There were a couple of messages missing, but they are not in the group archives anymore anyway. the options I used were as follows yahoo2mbox --verbose --noresume --user=the group owners name that I sign in with --pass=password for the group owner --no-x-yahoo --delay=1 just in case I needed a delay setting -o /path/to/where/to/create/mbox/file actual_group_name with nothing else and it worked, took about 5 or 6 mins to download 471 messages and attachments but not many. IIRC there were a lot more that had attachments, but it was the messages I was after. :) now I'm one happy bunny! nepal. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 4 22:34:10 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:10 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041544.08346.d.mcglone@att.net> <493843AC.10304@sbcglobal.net> <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <49385AE2.2050601@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send requires >>>>>>> a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against >>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a way >>>>>> that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want to >>>>>> start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the package >>>>>> for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>> >>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>> Dear David, >>>> >>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and >>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>> >>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>> >> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my >> new one. >> > > What port are you using? > > 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did not work. From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu Dec 4 23:32:28 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:32:28 +0100 Subject: Where is the services menu in Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1)? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812041253i699a5a91r6689054df69ad40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> <200812042040.27632.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <880dece00812041253i699a5a91r6689054df69ad40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812050032.28786.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 04 December 2008 21:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/4 Nigel Henry : > > Hi Dotan. Try an apt-get install sysv-rc-conf, then sudo sysv-rc-conf, > > and you should have a list of services running, and not running. May be > > best to maximise KDE's Konsole for it to display properly, otherwise it > > complains. > > Thanks, that is what I was looking for. I am surprised that there is > no longer a GUI version built into Kubuntu, I think that there was > once, no? > > Interestingly, I cannot find the entry for FTP dameon, though I have > installed the fptd package. > > -- > Dotan Cohen I too find that a bit odd, because one of the first things I do is to install the vsftpd package. I just opened sysv-rc-conf, and the vsftpd entry wasn't there. Then I opened synaptic, scrolled down to vsftpd (not installed), chose to install it, and synaptic said 0 bytes to download, and installed the package, which now shows up in sysv-rc-conf. All a bit bizarre, but it is getting a bit late here. I'll look at this again tomorrow. Nigel. From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 00:22:16 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:22:16 +0200 Subject: Where is the services menu in Kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1)? In-Reply-To: <200812050032.28786.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <880dece00812041059v78b69596l8bd6ac018573a7e6@mail.gmail.com> <200812042040.27632.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <880dece00812041253i699a5a91r6689054df69ad40@mail.gmail.com> <200812050032.28786.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <880dece00812041622q5b120869ve191bc763f4c984c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Nigel Henry : > I too find that a bit odd, because one of the first things I do is to install > the vsftpd package. I just opened sysv-rc-conf, and the vsftpd entry wasn't > there. Then I opened synaptic, scrolled down to vsftpd (not installed), chose > to install it, and synaptic said 0 bytes to download, and installed the > package, which now shows up in sysv-rc-conf. > > All a bit bizarre, but it is getting a bit late here. > > I'll look at this again tomorrow. > > Nigel. > It's no big deal. Good night. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Dec 5 01:54:39 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:54:39 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49385AE2.2050601@sbcglobal.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> <49385AE2.2050601@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812042054.39521.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: > >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > >>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me > >>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against > >>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a > >>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a > >>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want > >>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the > >>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > >>>>> > >>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > >>>> > >>>> Dear David, > >>>> > >>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and > >>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > >>> > >>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > >> > >> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > >> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > >> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my > >> new one. > > > > What port are you using? > > 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did > not work. Server requires authentication should be checked stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net should be in the username and your password should be there. authentication menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From stan10x10 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 04:27:31 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:27:31 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200812032206.05744.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> <69c7ddfb0812031848r85e994g52617f6c0c0de480@mail.gmail.com> <200812032206.05744.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812042027q622de67fu38e73e5b6e3f138@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:06 PM, David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 9:48:54 pm uriah heep wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:48 AM, David McGlone wrote: > > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 11:31:10 pm uriah heep wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, > wrote: > > > > > Showing us the error would help a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Lindsay Mathieson > > > > > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original message --- > > > > > Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > > From: uriah heep > > > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Date: 03/12/2008 2:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > Some how I got an error on a line in sources.list which is causing > > > > > apt and synaptic not to work. I need to to know how to remove the > > > > > error. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > am quite new at this and quite ignorant. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > Here it is > > > > > > > > E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 37 in source list > > > > > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > > > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > > > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. > > > > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > > > > > > From the little I know it seems I need to delete the error line but i > > > > do not know how to edit the file. > > > > > > At first don't delete it, just comment it out by putting a " # " in > front > > > of > > > the line that you think needs deleting. If everything works Ok then > > > delete it. > > > > > > by looking at sources list, you should be able to figure out the line > > > format > > > and distinguish what belongs and what doesn't > > > -- > > > David M. > > > http://www.dmcentral.net > > > > > > When I try to edit I get the message I do not have permission to save > > You need to open the file as root. open konsole and type sudo kate > /etc/apt/sources.list > > Edit & Save. > -- > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Worked fine thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 04:48:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:56 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812042054.39521.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> <49385AE2.2050601@sbcglobal.net> <200812042054.39521.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4938B2B8.5060103@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against >>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a >>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want >>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the >>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dear David, >>>>>> >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and >>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>>>> >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my >>>> new one. >>>> >>> What port are you using? >>> >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did >> not work. >> > > Server requires authentication should be checked stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > should be in the username and your password should be there. authentication > menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can see why it is so frustrating, can't you? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 04:51:40 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:51:40 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812042054.39521.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4937477e.1c7d.b6df9b90.76a0ab4c@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812041614.09915.d.mcglone@att.net> <49385AE2.2050601@sbcglobal.net> <200812042054.39521.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4938B35C.5080302@sbcglobal.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against >>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a >>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want >>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the >>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dear David, >>>>>> >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and >>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>>>> >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my >>>> new one. >>>> >>> What port are you using? >>> >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did >> not work. >> > > Server requires authentication should be checked stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > should be in the username and your password should be there. authentication > menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > > From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 07:08:46 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:08:46 +0200 Subject: ooo dialogs without fonts Message-ID: <200812050908.46467.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I have had this issue ever since Gutsy: ooo-anything works fine, java is installed, but some dialogs show up without any writing on them. I see controls and icons and such, but no fonts. For example, if I click the chart button I get the attached screen. I have tried running oocalc, soffice and so on from the konsole. I have fiddled with the options turning stuff on and off and changing fonts but nothing seems to work. There is no output on the konsole I can use to diagnose it. Anyone have a clue? \d -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ooonofonts.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23041 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 07:22:12 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:22:12 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) Message-ID: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus the quotes). Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see some useful debug output on the console. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ --- Original message --- Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) From: Steven Vollom To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to me >>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary against >>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in a >>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my life a >>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want >>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide the >>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dear David, >>>>>> >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox and >>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>>>> >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on my >>>> new one. >>>> >>> What port are you using? >>> >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did >> not work. >> > > Server requires authentication should be checked stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > should be in the username and your password should be there. authentication > menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can see why it is so frustrating, can't you? Steven -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Fri Dec 5 07:28:35 2008 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (Hein van Rensburg) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:28:35 +0200 Subject: Subject: ooo dialogs without fon Message-ID: <200812050928.35807.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Donn, I changed the system fonts in Ubuntu and Kubuntu and it worked for me. Kubuntu: System Settings>appearance>fonts Ubuntu : Sytem preferences> appearance>fonts From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 08:53:01 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:53:01 +0200 Subject: Subject: ooo dialogs without fon In-Reply-To: <200812050928.35807.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> References: <200812050928.35807.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Message-ID: <200812051053.01614.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 05 December 2008 09:28:35 Hein van Rensburg wrote: > Kubuntu: System Settings>appearance>fonts What changes did you make? I have fiddled a bit and the buttons on the chart dialog change, but the other labels etc. still remain blank :( \d From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 08:54:36 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:54:36 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the > console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus > the quotes). > > Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see > some useful debug output on the console. > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > --- Original message --- > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > From: Steven Vollom > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM > > David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > > >> David McGlone wrote: > >> > >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>> > >>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send > to me > >>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary > against > >>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this > in a > >>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my > life a > >>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want > >>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide > the > >>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear David, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the > outbox and > >>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > >>>>> > >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, > on my > >>>> new one. > >>>> > >>> What port are you using? > >>> > >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did > >> not work. > >> > > > > Server requires authentication should be checked > stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > > should be in the username and your password should be there. > authentication > > menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > > > That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can > see why it is so frustrating, can't you? > > Steven > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Dear Lindsay, I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry: steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise. And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday. Steven From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 09:23:22 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:22 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the >> console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus >> the quotes). >> >> Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see >> some useful debug output on the console. >> >> -- >> Lindsay Mathieson >> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ >> >> --- Original message --- >> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >> From: Steven Vollom >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >> Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM >> >> David McGlone wrote: >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>>>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send >> to me >>>>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary >> against >>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this >> in a >>>>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my >> life a >>>>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want >>>>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide >> the >>>>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear David, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the >> outbox and >>>>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >>>>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >>>>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, >> on my >>>>>> new one. >>>>>> >>>>> What port are you using? >>>>> >>>> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did >>>> not work. >>>> >>> Server requires authentication should be checked >> stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net >>> should be in the username and your password should be there. >> authentication >>> menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL >>> >> That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can >> see why it is so frustrating, can't you? >> >> Steven >> >> >> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > Dear Lindsay, > > I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email > to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my > initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry: > steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise. > And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday. > Dear Steven, I would open a gmail account just for testing purposes. You can then configure that account to accept pop and smtp from the web logon, follow their instructions to set up an account in mail software (very much like the one you have already) and test to send. Btw you should have port 465, login with full gmail account (name at gmail.com) and Security should be SSL and Plain (not TLS that "server support check" indicates, then it just hangs in the outbox...) If that works - your ISP is doing something funny/strange If that does NOT work - something is wrong with your KMail installation Sinclair From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Fri Dec 5 11:14:14 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:14:14 -0500 Subject: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0812042027q622de67fu38e73e5b6e3f138@mail.gmail.com> References: <4935fb62.2388.b6e18b90.28310546@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812030748.17307.d.mcglone@att.net> <69c7ddfb0812031848r85e994g52617f6c0c0de480@mail.gmail.com> <200812032206.05744.d.mcglone@att.net> <69c7ddfb0812042027q622de67fu38e73e5b6e3f138@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49390D06.80705@ajinfosearch.com> > > You need to open the file as root. open konsole and type sudo kate > /etc/apt/sources.list > kate is a graphical program so you should *always* use kdesu (or kdesudo if kdesu is broken). It is possible to run into problems later, I have. From _https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo_ Graphical sudo You should never use normal sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo (kdesudo on Kubuntu) to run such programs. gksudo sets HOME=~root, and copies .Xauthority to a tmp directory. This prevents files in your home directory becoming owned by root. (AFAICT, this is all that's special about the environment of the started process with gksudo vs. sudo). Alan -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." - author unknown Things I grok: 0 From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 11:20:23 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:20:23 +0100 Subject: asus 4850 work ? In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0811271848h70f972b1t4d7ab1b1536bd6e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0811271848h70f972b1t4d7ab1b1536bd6e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/11/28 uriah heep : > I am fed up trying to get my nvidia 9700 to work under 8.10 and am > considering getting an asus top 4850 as I understand amd cards now work > better under Linux. Anyone using one and what kind of lick are you having? > Hi! I just saw this blog http://www.undefinedfire.com/kde/last-call-for-help/ and remembered your mail and it looks like ATI cards is not a good combination with KDE 4. / Jonas From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Fri Dec 5 12:06:32 2008 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (Hein van Rensburg) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:06:32 +0200 Subject: ooo dialogs without font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812051406.32897.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Donn, I just put different fonts is all the main system fonts and it worked. You should be able to pick a font that you like. On Friday 05 December 2008 13:20:25 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) > 2. Subject: ooo dialogs without fon (Hein van Rensburg) > 3. Re: Subject: ooo dialogs without fon (Donn) > 4. Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > (Steven Vollom) > 5. Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > (O. Sinclair) > 6. Re: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list (Alan Dacey) > 7. Re: asus 4850 work ? (Jonas Norlander) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:22:12 +1000 > From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240 at blackpaw.dyndns.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the console > - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus the quotes). > > Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see some > useful debug output on the console. > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > --- Original message --- > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > From: Steven Vollom > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM > > David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: > >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send to > >>>>>>>>> me privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary > >>>>>>>>> against the 4.2 beta. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this in > >>>>>>>> a way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my > >>>>>>>> life a nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I > >>>>>>>> really want to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they > >>>>>>>> provide the package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear David, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the outbox > >>>>>> and does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > >>>> > >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, on > >>>> my new one. > >>> > >>> What port are you using? > >> > >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did > >> not work. > > > > Server requires authentication should be checked > > stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net should be in the username and your password > > should be there. authentication menthod should be plain and encryption > > should SSL > > That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can see > why it is so frustrating, can't you? > > Steven > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe > at:https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20081205/324109 >ec/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:28:35 +0200 > From: Hein van Rensburg > Subject: Subject: ooo dialogs without fon > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200812050928.35807.hvralpha at intekom.co.za> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Donn, I changed the system fonts in Ubuntu and Kubuntu and it worked for > me. > > Kubuntu: System Settings>appearance>fonts > Ubuntu : Sytem preferences> appearance>fonts > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:53:01 +0200 > From: Donn > Subject: Re: Subject: ooo dialogs without fon > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200812051053.01614.donn.ingle at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Friday, 05 December 2008 09:28:35 Hein van Rensburg wrote: > > Kubuntu: System Settings>appearance>fonts > > What changes did you make? I have fiddled a bit and the buttons on the > chart dialog change, but the other labels etc. still remain blank :( > > \d > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:54:36 -0500 > From: Steven Vollom > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <4938EC4C.3010805 at sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > > Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the > > console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus > > the quotes). > > > > Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see > > some useful debug output on the console. > > > > -- > > Lindsay Mathieson > > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > > > --- Original message --- > > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > > From: Steven Vollom > > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > > Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM > > > > David McGlone wrote: > > > On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > >> David McGlone wrote: > > >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > >>>> David McGlone wrote: > > >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > >>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > > >>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send > > > > to me > > > > >>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary > > > > against > > > > >>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this > > > > in a > > > > >>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my > > > > life a > > > > >>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want > > >>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide > > > > the > > > > >>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear David, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the > > > > outbox and > > > > >>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > > >>>> > > >>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > > >>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > > >>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, > > > > on my > > > > >>>> new one. > > >>> > > >>> What port are you using? > > >> > > >> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did > > >> not work. > > > > > > Server requires authentication should be checked > > > > stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > > > > > should be in the username and your password should be there. > > > > authentication > > > > > menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > > > > That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can > > see why it is so frustrating, can't you? > > > > Steven > > > > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > Dear Lindsay, > > I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email > to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my > initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry: > steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise. > And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday. > > Steven > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:23:22 +0200 > From: "O. Sinclair" > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <4938F30A.5040905 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Steven Vollom wrote: > > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the > >> console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus > >> the quotes). > >> > >> Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see > >> some useful debug output on the console. > >> > >> -- > >> Lindsay Mathieson > >> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > >> > >> --- Original message --- > >> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > >> From: Steven Vollom > >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > >> Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM > >> > >> David McGlone wrote: > >>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send > >>>>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send > >> > >> to me > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary > >> > >> against > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this > >> > >> in a > >> > >>>>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my > >> > >> life a > >> > >>>>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want > >>>>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide > >> > >> the > >> > >>>>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear David, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the > >> > >> outbox and > >> > >>>>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels > >>>>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks > >>>>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, > >> > >> on my > >> > >>>>>> new one. > >>>>> > >>>>> What port are you using? > >>>> > >>>> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did > >>>> not work. > >>> > >>> Server requires authentication should be checked > >> > >> stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > >> > >>> should be in the username and your password should be there. > >> > >> authentication > >> > >>> menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL > >> > >> That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can > >> see why it is so frustrating, can't you? > >> > >> Steven > >> > >> > >> -- kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > > > Dear Lindsay, > > > > I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email > > to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my > > initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry: > > steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise. > > And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday. > > Dear Steven, > I would open a gmail account just for testing purposes. You can then > configure that account to accept pop and smtp from the web logon, follow > their instructions to set up an account in mail software (very much like > the one you have already) and test to send. Btw you should have port > 465, login with full gmail account (name at gmail.com) and Security should > be SSL and Plain (not TLS that "server support check" indicates, then it > just hangs in the outbox...) > > If that works - your ISP is doing something funny/strange > If that does NOT work - something is wrong with your KMail installation > > Sinclair > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:14:14 -0500 > From: Alan Dacey > Subject: Re: edit source list /etc/apt/sources.list > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <49390D06.80705 at ajinfosearch.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > You need to open the file as root. open konsole and type sudo kate > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > kate is a graphical program so you should *always* use kdesu (or kdesudo if > kdesu is broken). It is possible to run into problems later, I have. > > > From _https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo_ > > Graphical sudo > You should never use normal sudo to start graphical applications as root. > You should use gksudo (kdesudo on Kubuntu) to run such programs. gksudo > sets HOME=~root, and copies .Xauthority to a tmp directory. This prevents > files in your home directory becoming owned by root. (AFAICT, this is all > that's special about the environment of the started process with gksudo vs. > sudo). > > Alan > > -- > "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a > complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most > satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." > - > author unknown > Things I grok: 0 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:20:23 +0100 > From: "Jonas Norlander" > Subject: Re: asus 4850 work ? > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2008/11/28 uriah heep : > > I am fed up trying to get my nvidia 9700 to work under 8.10 and am > > considering getting an asus top 4850 as I understand amd cards now work > > better under Linux. Anyone using one and what kind of lick are you > > having? > > Hi! > > I just saw this blog > http://www.undefinedfire.com/kde/last-call-for-help/ and remembered > your mail and it looks like ATI cards is not a good combination with > KDE 4. > > / Jonas > > > > ------------------------------ From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Fri Dec 5 14:21:02 2008 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:02 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 8.10: firefox filepicker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <493938CE.4020503@cern.ch> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Kubuntu 8.10, 32bit with the latest upgrades. > Firefox (from Ubuntu) works great. Only the file picker annoys me: > Whenever I download a file, a gnomish file dialogue asks where I > like to put the file. > > This dialogue is ugly, ok but the real trouble: > --Its opening size is tiny. I need to enlarge it to get to see something > --whenever I create a directory this is duely done, but until 8.04, I > had it open the directory immediately, now I need to open it manually, > which is a badkstep in usability. > > Everyone got a decent KDE file dialogue for my firefox? > > Thanks much for help > > Eberhard > > Hi Eberhard, Open about:config, search for "file_picker" and flip the preference ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false. This should do the trick. Regards, G From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 14:33:23 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:33:23 +0200 Subject: Konqueror gets stuck when transferring files In-Reply-To: <4938412D.5060204@sbcglobal.net> References: <880dece00812040642w63a6e5a9pe8d4bd27d720dff9@mail.gmail.com> <4938083D.5040209@yahoo.it> <49382DAA.7000409@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812041126y6bb962c6u56187739bd59bb71@mail.gmail.com> <4938412D.5060204@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812050633q53586378ye45b7c6b6dfa6c6e@mail.gmail.com> To all those suffering from this issue, here is the bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173024 Please comment and vote on it! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 14:51:02 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the >>> console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and (minus >>> the quotes). >>> >>> Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see >>> some useful debug output on the console. >>> >>> -- >>> Lindsay Mathieson >>> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ >>> >>> --- Original message --- >>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >>> From: Steven Vollom >>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >>> Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM >>> >>> David McGlone wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send >>>>>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> to me >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> against >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this >>>>>>>>>>> >>> in a >>> >>>>>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my >>>>>>>>>>> >>> life a >>> >>>>>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want >>>>>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide >>>>>>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear David, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the >>>>>>>>> >>> outbox and >>> >>>>>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels >>>>>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks >>>>>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, >>>>>>> >>> on my >>> >>>>>>> new one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> What port are you using? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did >>>>> not work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Server requires authentication should be checked >>>> >>> stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net >>> >>>> should be in the username and your password should be there. >>>> >>> authentication >>> >>>> menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL >>>> >>>> >>> That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can >>> see why it is so frustrating, can't you? >>> >>> Steven >>> >>> >>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> Dear Lindsay, >> >> I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email >> to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my >> initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry: >> steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise. >> And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday. >> >> > Dear Steven, > I would open a gmail account just for testing purposes. You can then > configure that account to accept pop and smtp from the web logon, follow > their instructions to set up an account in mail software (very much like > the one you have already) and test to send. Btw you should have port > 465, login with full gmail account (name at gmail.com) and Security should > be SSL and Plain (not TLS that "server support check" indicates, then it > just hangs in the outbox...) > > If that works - your ISP is doing something funny/strange > If that does NOT work - something is wrong with your KMail installation > > Sinclair > > Dear Sinclair, I have a gmail account. It is svollom at gmail.com. I still would like kmail. I want to use all Kubuntu KDE products. I am not without email. As you can see this email is coming from TBird and I do have gmail. I am going to reinstall kmail and see if that changes anything. When I asked AT&T.Yahoo for help they wanted a very high service fee that I cannot afford to pay, when I can get the service from TBird and gmail. $100 is like purchasing a lot of new equipment. It is obscene how some companies abuse Linux users. Steven From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 15:04:23 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:04:23 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 05 December 2008 16:51:02 Steven Vollom wrote: > I have a gmail account. Steven - you can use your gmail account from kmail (and other email clients too) -- http://mail.google.com/support/ and read about sending/receiving. hth \d From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 15:12:28 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:12:28 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? Message-ID: Dear everybody A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. The key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java related packages - none of them have been installed by default. Could you recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when working with Firefox and OpenOffice? Thx. for your reply. Respectfully Yours, Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can anybody please help me thanks Uwe Brauer From tuxebi at gmx.de Fri Dec 5 15:25:40 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:25:40 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 8.10: firefox filepicker In-Reply-To: <493938CE.4020503@cern.ch> References: <493938CE.4020503@cern.ch> Message-ID: Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > > Hi Eberhard, > > Open about:config, search for "file_picker" and flip the preference > ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false. > > This should do the trick. > Regards, > G > Hi Gianluca, many thanks!!! Strictly, it is not the KDE dialogue, but at least it is the "Originally created by Mozilla(tm)" Dialogue which is way better than the gnome (excuse me, just my own humble opinion) crap. And when I create a new directory this is now automatically opened, ready to accept my download. Awesome! Thanks much again!! Eberhard From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 5 15:36:05 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:36:05 -0400 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? References: Message-ID: <2164666.TQd8FhyYzW@cedar.serverforest.com> Bas Roufs wrote: > A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. The > key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java related > packages - none of them have been installed by default. Could you > recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when working with > Firefox and OpenOffice? > sun-java6-plugin That will get all the other dependencies you need. -- derek From atrypa at eskimo.com Fri Dec 5 16:41:55 2008 From: atrypa at eskimo.com (Wendell Cochran) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:41:55 -0800 Subject: Keep it short Message-ID: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 From: Steven Vollom Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. And I dislike adding to your burden, but: Please trim your posts. In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- could have been omitted without loss. Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) In short, brevity will help others help you. Wendell Cochran West Seattle From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 17:11:52 2008 From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:11:52 +0100 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> Message-ID: +1 2008/12/5 Wendell Cochran > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 > From: Steven Vollom > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > > Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. > And I dislike adding to your burden, but: > > Please trim your posts. > > In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- > could have been omitted without loss. > > Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) > > Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. > > Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to > the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) > > In short, brevity will help others help you. > > Wendell Cochran > West Seattle > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 17:13:25 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:13:25 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. Message-ID: Dear Derek Your answer is clear - I found the right packages. Thanks. Bas. 2008/12/5 Derek Broughton > > Bas Roufs wrote: > > > A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. The > > key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java related > > packages - none of them have been installed by default. Could you > > recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when working with > > Firefox and OpenOffice? > > > sun-java6-plugin > > That will get all the other dependencies you need. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 17:27:44 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:27:44 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Derek > > Your answer is clear - I found the right packages. > > Thanks. > > Bas. > > 2008/12/5 Derek Broughton > >> Bas Roufs wrote: >> >> >>> A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. The >>> key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java related >>> packages - none of them have been installed by default. Could you >>> recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when working with >>> Firefox and OpenOffice? >>> >>> >> sun-java6-plugin >> >> That will get all the other dependencies you need. >> -- >> derek >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > > -- > =============== > Viaconsensus > Bas G. Roufs M.A. > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > M. +31.6.446.835.10 > T. +31.30.785.20.40 > BasRoufs at gmail.com > =============== > > Keep in mind jre-6 won't work in X86_64, only in i386. The X86_64 version doesn't have a "libjavaplugin.oji . From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 17:35:58 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:35:58 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. In-Reply-To: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> References: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: >Keep in mind jre-6 won't work in X86_64, only in i386. >The X86_64 version doesn't have a "libjavaplugin.oji . Thanks for pointing at this. I work with i386 - so it should work in my case. Bas. From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 18:01:43 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:01:43 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. In-Reply-To: References: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49396C87.6040000@sbcglobal.net> Bas Roufs wrote: >> Keep in mind jre-6 won't work in X86_64, only in i386. >> The X86_64 version doesn't have a "libjavaplugin.oji . >> > > Thanks for pointing at this. I work with i386 - so it should work in my case. > > Bas. > > Does Kubuntu have a /usr/lib/mozilla ? If so you will have to install jre-6 and on the CLI you will sudo updatedb, then do a locate libjavaplugin then you'll have to do ln -s libjavaplugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , that will setup the plugin for Firefox. Of course I'm a Fedora man and I'm not sure that Ubuntu would use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin. If is setup the same way in Ubuntu I will be able to help you further , when you find the path to libjavaplugin.oji . From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 5 17:58:53 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:58:53 -0400 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. References: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1417294.OHFEnt2z3f@cedar.serverforest.com> Jim wrote: >> 2008/12/5 Derek Broughton >> >>> Bas Roufs wrote: >>> >>> >>>> A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. >>>> The key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java >>>> related packages - none of them have been installed by default. >>>> Could you recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when >>>> working with Firefox and OpenOffice? >>>> >>>> >>> sun-java6-plugin >>> >>> That will get all the other dependencies you need. > Keep in mind jre-6 won't work in X86_64, only in i386. > The X86_64 version doesn't have a "libjavaplugin.oji . Oh. Thanks for that Jim - I didn't know, and don't have a 64-bit machine. What are the options for 64-bit users? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 5 18:10:18 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:10:18 -0400 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - ...Solved, thanks. References: <49396490.4010007@sbcglobal.net> <49396C87.6040000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1390956.oWcjbxOJBv@cedar.serverforest.com> Jim wrote: > Does Kubuntu have a /usr/lib/mozilla ? > If so you will have to install jre-6 and on the CLI you will sudo > updatedb, then do a locate libjavaplugin > then you'll have to do ln -s libjavaplugin in > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , that will setup the plugin for Firefox. > Of course I'm a Fedora man and I'm not sure that Ubuntu would use > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin. > > If is setup the same way in Ubuntu I will be able to help you further > , when you find the path to libjavaplugin.oji . Heavens! Kubuntu is a lot smarter than that. We do it automagically, for Konqueror at least (checking 10 possible directories). Since Firefox isn't the default KDE browser, I'm not sure if the Ubuntu Firefox setup does the same. -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 18:41:16 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:41:16 -0500 Subject: EMERGENCY Message-ID: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> I was transferring a movie file from one partition to another; while that was taking place, I rotated to another face of the Compiz cube. The computer froze on one of the pages. I waited in case it was a memory problem, however, nothing changed. The computer would not boot. I attempted boot in the (can't remember the name at the moment so if you can figure out what I am trying to remember, the choice at boot where you go into a different mode for repair considerations) and the computer had a fail: [215.456827] Buffer Error on dev.sdc Logical block 0 fail Later it read, however without the red fail on the right the following: LDM_validate_partition_table (): Disk Read Failed. Next I got a page which was no longer on the black screen that gave me repair choices which I tried both. Poor memory makes accurate recall impossible, but if you have been here before, it had, I think 4 choices the first being to resume the boot. I did 2 and 4 which contained an X. Finally the only option was to resume the boot. When I finally got the computer to boot to a screen, the mouse was extremely sluggish. The keyboard worked to type in my password, but did not work when the computer finally opened. The mouse worked, but each open page would not move by dragging, holding doen the left mouse button. Each were frozen in place. I could not accomplish anything so I rebooted again hoping that that may correct something. All the testing processes took extremely long. the sbc problem remained. I repeated all the above steps and got a screen again. It was difficult to get the packages that automatically open off the screen, however, I finally got to essentially the same situation as before this boot. Because the computer had been sluggish since installing Compiz, I decided to remove Compiz. The keyboard worked so I opened Adept Package manager. The computer froze when I attempted multiple package removal of Compiz installations and I had to start over. I couldn't yet write an email. This time, I only attempted to remove compiz (a single package) and was successful. I remove a couple more. Then I tried to remove the rest, and got frozen in mid-process and had to start over. I am writing this instead of attempting to remove additional compiz installations in the hope I can get through to anyone with lots of computer knowledge who may be willing to give me some steps of things to do to try to get things back. I am poor and alone, and don't have normal conveniences, and I also have an extreme need to be able to function on my computer. I know I have bothered you a lot, but I am in a serious problem, needing internet access and not knowing when it will leave again. TIA Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 18:43:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:43:59 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> Arnaud bourree wrote: > +1 > > 2008/12/5 Wendell Cochran > > > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 > From: Steven Vollom > > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > > Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. > And I dislike adding to your burden, but: > > Please trim your posts. > > In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- > could have been omitted without loss. > > Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) > > Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. > > Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to > the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) > > In short, brevity will help others help you. > > Wendell Cochran > West Seattle > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I am sorry, I will try. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 18:57:52 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:57:52 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <493979B0.7000908@sbcglobal.net> Wendell Cochran wrote: > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 > From: Steven Vollom > Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) > > Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. > And I dislike adding to your burden, but: > > Please trim your posts. > > In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- > could have been omitted without loss. > > Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) > > Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. > > Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to > the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) > > In short, brevity will help others help you. > > Wendell Cochran > West Seattle > > > > I will try, Wendle. Something has happened to my computer right now and I am having difficulty just making it work at all. I am having difficulty adding or removing anything. My mouse is sluggish and doesn't always work. I am using the arrow keys to move the cursor during the writing of this email. So that I understand, do you mean when a post gets a lot of response back and forth, do you want me to erase the answered portions and only return current active questions and answers, or do you mean reword what I say? Someone included a recommendation for installation of a tool that organized back and forth conversation with verticle colored lines that helped keep track of who was saying what. I can remove that, however, I don't remember where I got it or what it is called. But I will remove it is that will help. I have an urgent need for my computer to work right now, and it is acting very strange, so I have an active post that is a little large, but I don't know how to shorten it. Whatever vi is, I don't think I can install it right now, because of the way the computer is behaving. Sorry Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 19:11:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:11:42 -0500 Subject: Keyboard and mouse intermittant. Message-ID: <49397CEE.40505@sbcglobal.net> I may have a virus. Never had one before, but the keyboard is working when I am writing this, however, if I want to open a package manager, my password won't enter. It is like the keyboard is not working. Many times when I click on an item, I have to repeat the process many times before it actually engages. Moving the mouse around the screen is slow and stuttery. Steven From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Dec 5 19:15:12 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:15:12 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <493979B0.7000908@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <493979B0.7000908@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812051415.12066.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 05 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: >Wendell Cochran wrote: >> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 >> From: Steven Vollom >> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >> >> Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. >> And I dislike adding to your burden, but: >> >> Please trim your posts. >> >> In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- >> could have been omitted without loss. >> >> Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) >> >> Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. >> >> Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to >> the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) >> >> In short, brevity will help others help you. >> >> Wendell Cochran >> West Seattle > >I will try, Wendle. Something has happened to my computer right now and >I am having difficulty just making it work at all. I am having >difficulty adding or removing anything. My mouse is sluggish and >doesn't always work. I am using the arrow keys to move the cursor >during the writing of this email. > >So that I understand, do you mean when a post gets a lot of response >back and forth, do you want me to erase the answered portions and only >return current active questions and answers, or do you mean reword what >I say? > >Someone included a recommendation for installation of a tool that >organized back and forth conversation with verticle colored lines that >helped keep track of who was saying what. I can remove that, however, I >don't remember where I got it or what it is called. But I will remove >it is that will help. > >I have an urgent need for my computer to work right now, and it is >acting very strange, so I have an active post that is a little large, >but I don't know how to shorten it. Whatever vi is, I don't think I can >install it right now, because of the way the computer is behaving. > >Sorry >Steven Steven, a utility call top or htop is your friend, it lets you see what is hogging the system, and with htop, to kill it if need be. Reboot it for now, and then install 'GKrellm', it is the smallest screen utility I know of that tells you what the system is doing all the time. I put mine on the right edge of the screen, on all screens. Then I keep a terminal open on another screen running htop. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Space is to place as eternity is to time. -- Joseph Joubert From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 19:23:21 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:23:21 +0200 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : > Arnaud bourree wrote: >> +1 >> >> 2008/12/5 Wendell Cochran > >> >> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 >> From: Steven Vollom > > >> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >> >> Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. >> And I dislike adding to your burden, but: >> >> Please trim your posts. >> >> In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- >> could have been omitted without loss. >> >> Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) >> >> Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. >> >> Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to >> the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) >> >> In short, brevity will help others help you. >> >> Wendell Cochran >> West Seattle >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > I am sorry, I will try. > I am quoting in full because the content was so funny. Steven, you quoted almost 40 lines to answer a one line post asking you to trim your quotes. Try harder! I see that you are using Thunderbird, a mail client that does not hide the full text of replies. So you can plainly see what you are quoting. Trim it! You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great email client. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 19:23:32 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:23:32 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <200812051415.12066.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <493979B0.7000908@sbcglobal.net> <200812051415.12066.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49397FB4.70802@sbcglobal.net> Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 05 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Wendell Cochran wrote: >> >>> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 >>> From: Steven Vollom >>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >>> >>> Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. >>> And I dislike adding to your burden, but: >>> >>> Please trim your posts. >>> >>> In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- >>> could have been omitted without loss. >>> >>> Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) >>> >>> Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. >>> >>> Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to >>> the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) >>> >>> In short, brevity will help others help you. >>> >>> Wendell Cochran >>> West Seattle >>> >> I will try, Wendle. Something has happened to my computer right now and >> I am having difficulty just making it work at all. I am having >> difficulty adding or removing anything. My mouse is sluggish and >> doesn't always work. I am using the arrow keys to move the cursor >> during the writing of this email. >> >> So that I understand, do you mean when a post gets a lot of response >> back and forth, do you want me to erase the answered portions and only >> return current active questions and answers, or do you mean reword what >> I say? >> >> Someone included a recommendation for installation of a tool that >> organized back and forth conversation with verticle colored lines that >> helped keep track of who was saying what. I can remove that, however, I >> don't remember where I got it or what it is called. But I will remove >> it is that will help. >> >> I have an urgent need for my computer to work right now, and it is >> acting very strange, so I have an active post that is a little large, >> but I don't know how to shorten it. Whatever vi is, I don't think I can >> install it right now, because of the way the computer is behaving. >> >> Sorry >> Steven >> > > Steven, a utility call top or htop is your friend, it lets you see what is > hogging the system, and with htop, to kill it if need be. > > Reboot it for now, and then install 'GKrellm', it is the smallest screen > utility I know of that tells you what the system is doing all the time. I > put mine on the right edge of the screen, on all screens. Then I keep a > terminal open on another screen running htop. > > Wendell, I found another mouse and the mouse moves now, however although I am typing right now, when I open a konsole or Adept Package Manager or Synaptic and try to type in my password, nothing goes in. It is like the keyboard isn't working at all. Right now, I am typing and everything is reacting crisp and fast, like nothing is wrong. Not the same when I try to enter a package manager or terminal. Any ideas on what I should do. TIA Steven From rlp1938 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 19:27:58 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:27:58 +0700 Subject: using -graft-points with genisoimage Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812051127w6f2279ao3d8f3583b1b823fb@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I want to backup some of my stuff to DVD. The backups will be fairly small so I want to be able to hang each successive backup under the date of execution. Eg 20081201/etc/..... /home/.... 20081203/etc/... and so on. I am trying to graft each backup onto a dir named as above using -graft-points like this sudo genisoimage -R -J -graft-points 20080306 -o backup.iso /etc /home I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale settings) genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '20080306'. I cannot seem to get the syntax right. Help please. Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 19:30:06 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:30:06 +0200 Subject: EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : > I was transferring a movie file from one partition to another; while > that was taking place, I rotated to another face of the Compiz cube. > The computer froze on one of the pages. I waited in case it was a > memory problem, however, nothing changed. > > The computer would not boot. I attempted boot in the (can't remember > the name at the moment so if you can figure out what I am trying to > remember, the choice at boot where you go into a different mode for > repair considerations) and the computer had a fail: > [215.456827] Buffer Error on dev.sdc Logical block 0 fail > > Later it read, however without the red fail on the right the following: > LDM_validate_partition_table (): Disk Read Failed. > > Next I got a page which was no longer on the black screen that gave me > repair choices which I tried both. Poor memory makes accurate recall > impossible, but if you have been here before, it had, I think 4 choices > the first being to resume the boot. I did 2 and 4 which contained an X. > > Finally the only option was to resume the boot. > > When I finally got the computer to boot to a screen, the mouse was > extremely sluggish. The keyboard worked to type in my password, but did > not work when the computer finally opened. The mouse worked, but each > open page would not move by dragging, holding doen the left mouse > button. Each were frozen in place. I could not accomplish anything so > I rebooted again hoping that that may correct something. > > All the testing processes took extremely long. the sbc problem > remained. I repeated all the above steps and got a screen again. It was > difficult to get the packages that automatically open off the screen, > however, I finally got to essentially the same situation as before this > boot. Because the computer had been sluggish since installing Compiz, I > decided to remove Compiz. > > The keyboard worked so I opened Adept Package manager. The computer > froze when I attempted multiple package removal of Compiz installations > and I had to start over. I couldn't yet write an email. > > This time, I only attempted to remove compiz (a single package) and was > successful. I remove a couple more. Then I tried to remove the rest, > and got frozen in mid-process and had to start over. I am writing this > instead of attempting to remove additional compiz installations in the > hope I can get through to anyone with lots of computer knowledge who may > be willing to give me some steps of things to do to try to get things back. > > I am poor and alone, and don't have normal conveniences, and I also have > an extreme need to be able to function on my computer. I know I have > bothered you a lot, but I am in a serious problem, needing internet > access and not knowing when it will leave again. TIA > > Steven > Without sitting at your computer it is hard to help, but sdc could be an optical drive. Are you sure that you are not booting from optical media (LiveCD in the drive by accident)? Regarding the problem with Compiz, what video hardware have you, and which driver? The description that you gave is called single user mode, and you did the right thing by booting into single user mode, but I hope that you didn't damage your installation by running the repair tools, which it sounds like you may have done. If sdc is not an optical drive than I would hazard a guess at a failing hard disk, try using smart tools to determine that. You might want to do that from a LiveCD if you have one (the Kubuntu standard install is a LiveCD). -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 19:37:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:37:47 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939830B.9050308@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : > >> Arnaud bourree wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> 2008/12/5 Wendell Cochran > >>> >>> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 >>> From: Steven Vollom >> > >>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >>> >>> Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. >>> And I dislike adding to your burden, but: >>> >>> Please trim your posts. >>> >>> In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- >>> could have been omitted without loss. >>> >>> Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) >>> >>> Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. >>> >>> Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to >>> the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) >>> >>> In short, brevity will help others help you. >>> >>> Wendell Cochran >>> West Seattle >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >>> >> I am sorry, I will try. >> >> > > I am quoting in full because the content was so funny. > > Steven, you quoted almost 40 lines to answer a one line post asking > you to trim your quotes. Try harder! I see that you are using > Thunderbird, a mail client that does not hide the full text of > replies. So you can plainly see what you are quoting. Trim it! > > You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the > parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great > email client. > > I haven't been able to get the send portion of kmail to work. lots of help but no solution. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 19:50:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:50:59 -0500 Subject: EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49398623.7010304@sbcglobal.net> >> Steven >> >> > > Without sitting at your computer it is hard to help, but sdc could be > an optical drive. I think someone is in my machine. While I was trying to respond, Dick&Filesystems opened over the email. I had a thumb drive in when the problem started. I removed it thinking that might have something to do with it. My Microsoft mouse was possible going bad, however, I replaced it with a small mouse I used for my laptop. It works fine. No media in the CD. > Are you sure that you are not booting from optical > media (LiveCD in the drive by accident)? Regarding the problem with > Compiz, what video hardware have you, and which driver? I don't remember. I am just trying to keep this machine alive long enough to get the new computer working. This computer is a constant problem needing repair. I can't move an open screen on the desktop right now. When I open System Settings, most of the window appears off screen. I can't move the window so that everything appears. I was trying to see if I could get some information on my video card there. > The > description that you gave is called single user mode, and you did the > right thing by booting into single user mode, but I hope that you > didn't damage your installation by running the repair tools, which it > sounds like you may have done. If sdc is not an optical drive than I > would hazard a guess at a failing hard disk, try using smart tools to > determine that. You might want to do that from a LiveCD if you have > one (the Kubuntu standard install is a LiveCD). > I can't access sudo or Adept or Synaptic. When I try to type in a password it is like the keyboard doesn't work. Nonetheless, when I write into an email the keyboard works fine. If you can reply fairly fast, please do. I am so stressed. And there is a guy that has been complaining about my posts about 5 times now. I don't even know which post he is complaining about but he is relentless. I just don't know how to please him. If you are willing please contact me outside the List. Thanks. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 20:11:30 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:11:30 -0500 Subject: Can't drag a window! Message-ID: <49398AF2.5070705@sbcglobal.net> The border of a window does not seem to activate anymore. When I press the left mouse button and hold it down with the cursor on the Menu Bar, to drag the window, the window does not move. TIA Steven From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri Dec 5 20:15:45 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:15:45 +0000 Subject: googleearth on kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49398BF1.9080400@btinternet.com> I have installed googleearth in 3 different ways now, the last using the googleearth-package that synaptic found which converts a binary installation file to a .deb file. All 3 have got exactly the same problem - viz: I get the full googleearth functionality when I run it under root(sudo) but if I run it as a user(me) I get the googleearth window opening OK but with only the black star background, no picture of earth at all. I presume there's some file permission(s) wrong somewhere, any ideas where I might try looking would be most useful. This is a proprietary package so kubuntu/Debian can't help, I've sent a comment off to Google but the Lord knows if I'll get any answer. brian From j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk Fri Dec 5 20:19:02 2008 From: j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk (Johnny Ernst Nielsen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:19:02 +0100 Subject: Can't drag a window! In-Reply-To: <49398AF2.5070705@sbcglobal.net> References: <49398AF2.5070705@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812052119.02374.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk> fredag den 5. December 2008 kvad Steven Vollom: > The border of a window does not seem to activate anymore. When I > press the left mouse button and hold it down with the cursor on the > Menu Bar, to drag the window, the window does not move. TIA > > Steven It sounds like your window manager stopped running. Press Alt+F2 Run kwin Does that bring back the window borders? Best regards :o) Johnny :o) From miron.florea at web.de Fri Dec 5 20:32:47 2008 From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:32:47 +0200 Subject: googleearth on kubuntu In-Reply-To: <49398BF1.9080400@btinternet.com> References: <49398BF1.9080400@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <49398FEF.1050309@web.de> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth (the last item) Accidentally left the 'start automatically after install' checked If the installer was started with sudo, googleearth will be started as root, but still using the home folder of the normal user (who started sudo). Thus Google Earth will place its config files into the users home folders, but with root as the owner. The normal user cannot use gogoleearth, because the settings cannot be saved. He will only see space (no globe) and some settings are greyed out. Delete the (somewhat hidden) ./config/Google directory: rm -Rf .config/Google and maybe also rm -Rf .googleearth and it should work. From kassube at gmx.net Fri Dec 5 20:37:14 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:37:14 +0100 Subject: googleearth on kubuntu In-Reply-To: <49398BF1.9080400@btinternet.com> References: <49398BF1.9080400@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812052137.14868.kassube@gmx.net> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > I get the full googleearth functionality when I run it under root(sudo) > but if I run it as a user(me) I get the googleearth window opening OK > but with only the black star background, no picture of earth at all. I > presume there's some file permission(s) wrong somewhere, any ideas > where I might try looking would be most useful. Don't search for the file with wrong permissions - just reclaim all files in your directory tree with the command sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME in a terminal. I think that will fix it. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 20:38:48 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:38:48 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49399158.6000008@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : > >> Arnaud bourree wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> 2008/12/5 Wendell Cochran > >>> >>> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:51:02 -0500 >>> From: Steven Vollom >> > >>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) >>> >>> Steve, I realize that time is short & that you have much to do. >>> And I dislike adding to your burden, but: >>> >>> Please trim your posts. >>> >>> In the one cited above, more than 150 lines -- six full screens! -- >>> could have been omitted without loss. >>> >>> Trimming will give you practice in using an editor. (I recommend vi.) >>> >>> Trimming forces review of the topic & discussion thereof. >>> >>> Short posts attract readers; long posts encourage them to skip on to >>> the next thing. (We're all in hurry.) >>> >>> In short, brevity will help others help you. >>> >>> Wendell Cochran >>> West Seattle >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >>> >> I am sorry, I will try. >> >> > > I am quoting in full because the content was so funny. > > Steven, you quoted almost 40 lines to answer a one line post asking > you to trim your quotes. I don't see what you are talking about. I responded "I am sorry, I will try." > Try harder! I see that you are using > Thunderbird, a mail client that does not hide the full text of > replies. So you can plainly see what you are quoting. Trim it! > I really don't understand . Where are the 40 lines you speak of? Are you with the List or just another participant? I am willing to do anything to be acceptable to the List, but obviously do not understand you. Could you copy something that I have written, showing your corrections. I can learn then. I will use your example and try to copy it. I can't change what I don't understand. > You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the > parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great > email client. > I already answered this. I have been trying to get Kmail working for about 2 years. On this forum, I have requested help, copied my configurations to the post to expose any wrong entries. I duplicated each setting from thunderbird, which works. Show me how and I will use it. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 20:41:13 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:41:13 -0500 Subject: Can't drag a window! ** RESOLVED ** In-Reply-To: <200812052119.02374.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk> References: <49398AF2.5070705@sbcglobal.net> <200812052119.02374.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk> Message-ID: <493991E9.6020203@sbcglobal.net> Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > fredag den 5. December 2008 kvad Steven Vollom: > >> The border of a window does not seem to activate anymore. When I >> press the left mouse button and hold it down with the cursor on the >> Menu Bar, to drag the window, the window does not move. TIA >> >> Steven >> > > It sounds like your window manager stopped running. > > Press Alt+F2 > Run kwin > > Does that bring back the window borders? > > Best regards :o) > > Johnny :o) > Thanks! Steven > > From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 21:05:28 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:05:28 +0200 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <49399158.6000008@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <49399158.6000008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051305l45c6388ala11e22c3cba03ac2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : >> Steven, you quoted almost 40 lines to answer a one line post asking >> you to trim your quotes. > I don't see what you are talking about. I responded "I am sorry, I will > try." Don't worry, Steven, on the Kubuntu list you can get away with murder! At least, you can get away with things like full quoting that would not be acceptable on the Gentoo lists. I will explain. Just remember that I am on your side! When you reply to an email, the original message that you are replying to is quoted, that means that the full text of the original email is contained in your reply. On open source mailing lists it is generally acceptable only to quote the part of the message that you are replying to. The rest should be erased from the message. In Thunderbird, you must do that in the message editing window, after you click Reply. When in doubt, quote less! >> Try harder! I see that you are using >> Thunderbird, a mail client that does not hide the full text of >> replies. So you can plainly see what you are quoting. Trim it! >> > I really don't understand . Where are the 40 lines you speak of? In that particular message, the 40 lines that I speak of is everything that you quoted. The only part that you should have quoted was this: ----start---- Arnaud bourree wrote: > +1 ----end---- > Are > you with the List or just another participant? Another participant, just like you. Nobody has any authority around here, only experience. You are gaining experience, too, don't worry. Everyone makes mistakes and mailing list culture shock is not unique to you, everyone here has suffered it in the past. Those of us who have been posting to Linux mailing lists for years made the same mistakes that you are, most just forgot that they too were once noobs :) > I am willing to do > anything to be acceptable to the List, but obviously do not understand > you. Don't worry, the Kubuntu list is much more forgiving than other Linux mailing lists. The very fact that you are here means that you are accepted, really. There is very little ivory-tower syndrome in the Ubuntu community. Don't get stressed about it. > Could you copy something that I have written, showing your > corrections. I can learn then. I will use your example and try to copy > it. I can't change what I don't understand. I explained above. Just erase everything that you are not quoting directly. This is an example of bad quoting: ----start bad example--- >>>>> How are you? >>>> Fine. And you? >>> Hungry. Want to eat? >> Yes, what shall we eat? > Steak? Sounds good! ----end bad example---- This is a good example taken from the above bad example: ----start good example--- > Steak? Sounds good! ----end good example---- >> You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the >> parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great >> email client. >> > I already answered this. I have been trying to get Kmail working for > about 2 years. On this forum, I have requested help, copied my > configurations to the post to expose any wrong entries. I duplicated > each setting from thunderbird, which works. Show me how and I will use it. > I don't read every post, but I will STFA and see if I can respond to one of your earlier posts regarding Kmail. Note that I personally use Thunderbird as well, but only because of one Thunderbird extension that is critical to my workflow. Steven, we are a community and you are a welcome part of that community. I have noticed some bad mailing list behaviour from you in the past few days but it never bothered me enough to mention it, as the Kubuntu list is generally very lenient. If someone gets on your case, then don't get upset. I see that you are trying your best to be a good list member. Everyone else sees that as well. The culture shock will pass soon, and in a few months you will be just as annoyed at noob posts as some people are at you right now. It's no big deal, really. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 21:14:44 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:14:44 +0200 Subject: EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <49398623.7010304@sbcglobal.net> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> <49398623.7010304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051314h2dbf7derca15bbd088b593@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Steven Vollom : >> Without sitting at your computer it is hard to help, but sdc could be >> an optical drive. > I think someone is in my machine. While I was trying to respond, > Dick&Filesystems opened over the email. I had a thumb drive in when the > problem started. I removed it thinking that might have something to do > with it. My Microsoft mouse was possible going bad, however, I replaced > it with a small mouse I used for my laptop. It works fine. No media in > the CD. If you suspect that your machine is compromised, then backup and reinstall. And verify that the executables that take with you to the new install are not compromised. >> Are you sure that you are not booting from optical >> media (LiveCD in the drive by accident)? Regarding the problem with >> Compiz, what video hardware have you, and which driver? > I don't remember. I am just trying to keep this machine alive long > enough to get the new computer working. This computer is a constant > problem needing repair. If it has wheels, tits, or a CPU then it was designed to be a constant problem for us. That is their nature. Once we accept this, we can live with it. > I can't move an open screen on the desktop > right now. When I open System Settings, most of the window appears off > screen. I can't move the window so that everything appears. I was > trying to see if I could get some information on my video card there. While I prefer to diagnose, in your case I suggest to just reinstall. It will be difficult for us to diagnose over the wire, and the fix won't be easy. Also, you suspect that the machine has been compromised. Go ahead and reinstall, but be careful to preserve your data. If you are in doubt, then back up everything in /home/. >> The >> description that you gave is called single user mode, and you did the >> right thing by booting into single user mode, but I hope that you >> didn't damage your installation by running the repair tools, which it >> sounds like you may have done. If sdc is not an optical drive than I >> would hazard a guess at a failing hard disk, try using smart tools to >> determine that. You might want to do that from a LiveCD if you have >> one (the Kubuntu standard install is a LiveCD). >> > I can't access sudo or Adept or Synaptic. When I try to type in a > password it is like the keyboard doesn't work. Nonetheless, when I > write into an email the keyboard works fine. The terminal will never show you the password that you enter. Just like a web browser will obscure your password in password fields, so will the terminal not provide any visual feedback to a password being entered. Just enter it when requested and press Enter. > If you can reply fairly fast, please do. I am so stressed. And there > is a guy that has been complaining about my posts about 5 times now. If that guy is in the thread that I just replied to, then don't worry. We were all noobs once. SOme people just forget that. We are a community and help each other. Even the guy complaining about your posts was doing so to help you, you will understand that in a few months of reading this list. > I > don't even know which post he is complaining about but he is > relentless. I just don't know how to please him. If you are willing > please contact me outside the List. Thanks. > Steven > There is no need to take the conversation off list. Lets get your computer fixed first, then we'll whip you for your super-long quotes! Note that you inline quote and don't top post, so really you are in good shape! Super-long quotes is one of the _least_ annoying of the noob habits. You've got the important stuff down pat. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri Dec 5 21:20:27 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:20:27 +0000 Subject: googleearth Message-ID: <49399B1B.5090305@btinternet.com> Thanks Miron,Kassube sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME in a terminal. I think that will fix it. I had already done the above to no effect, but I did it again anyway still no good. rm -Rf .config/Google The above did the trick, the chown -R.... left the Google dir still owned by root:root mutter, mutter. and maybe also rm -Rf .googleearth didn't need to do this one and it should work. Once again thanks to you both, am now a happy bunny brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 21:24:11 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:24:11 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password. Also, please confirm or deny: You can download email from your Yahoo account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 21:42:27 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:42:27 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? Message-ID: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> In Hardy with KDE 4, there was a fuzzy clock applet just like in KDE 3. In Intrepid I cannot find the applet. Does anyone know how to get it back? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 5 21:55:44 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:55:44 -0600 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939A360.103@swbell.net> On 12/05/2008 Dotan Cohen wrote: > You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the > parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great > email client. > Steven can't get his ISP's mail to work with Kmail. With "QuickQuote" T-Bird will quote only what you highlight. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 5 22:07:30 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:07:30 -0600 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939A622.4050800@swbell.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > In Hardy with KDE 4, there was a fuzzy clock applet just like in KDE > 3. In Intrepid I cannot find the applet. Does anyone know how to get > it back? Thanks. > > I think I saw a "Fuzzy Clock" as a widget. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:09:59 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:09:59 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/5 Dotan Cohen : > In Hardy with KDE 4, there was a fuzzy clock applet just like in KDE > 3. In Intrepid I cannot find the applet. Does anyone know how to get > it back? Thanks. > i do have the fuzzy clock dotan :S search with apt-cache for plasmoids. there's a package that contains a set of standard plasmoids that comes with KDE4, i think the fuzzy clock is one of them -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 22:12:55 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:12:55 -0500 Subject: Home Directory Message-ID: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? Steven From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:13:08 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:13:08 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060813.08769.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:54:36 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear Lindsay, > > I entered kmail in the konsole.  Then I attempted to send a test email > to myself.  It sent it to the Outbox like before.  The Konsole shows my > initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry:   > steven at Studio25:~$.  If I have to do something to debug, please advise.   > And Thanks again for being so tenatious.  I may get it working someday. Hi Steve, sorry re the late reply, but finally back home :) There should have been *heaps* of output on the console. Did you close kmail first before starting it from the console? Remember that KMail can close to the tray which means it is still running. If so then right click its tray icon and choose quit. To double check it no longer running type the following on the konsole: ps -e|grep kmail If kmail is output then its still running. (How this works - Ignore the following explanation if you like) "ps -e" lists all the running processes. The "|" symbol "pipes" the output to the "grep" command. "grep kmail" filters the output for just the lines that contain "kmail". The overall effect is to just list the running processes called "kmail" Assuming kmail is no longer running try running kmail from the konsole and sending a email to yahoo again. Cheers, -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 22:14:25 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:14:25 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? > If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password. > Already that way > Also, please confirm or deny: You can download email from your Yahoo > account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. > confirm From rlp1938 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:16:44 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:16:44 +0700 Subject: using -graft-points with genisoimage In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340812051127w6f2279ao3d8f3583b1b823fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f6eb7340812051127w6f2279ao3d8f3583b1b823fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812051416s60b6c207ie80e4ca70c8876ef@mail.gmail.com> Hi again - solved so am replying to my own post with solution: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Robert Parker wrote: > > I cannot seem to get the syntax right. Help please. So here is the right syntax finally; today=`date '+%Y%m%d'` mkisofs -R -J -m '*~' -m '.mozilla/firefox/ffp616ct.default/Cache/*' -o backup.iso \ -graft-points "$today"/etc=/etc \ "$today"/home/user=/home/user \ "$today"/var/cache/apt=/var/cache/apt \ /etc /home/user /var/cache/apt NB mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage. The name mkisofs is a habit with me I'm afraid. Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:20:49 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:20:49 +1000 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid Message-ID: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Instructions on how to upgrade here: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is no backing out. Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual New and improved features in KMail! However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to disable akonadi altogether. The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths is worse than ever. If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 22:28:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:28:56 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939A360.103@swbell.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> Billie Walsh wrote: > On 12/05/2008 Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the >> parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great >> email client. >> >> > > Steven can't get his ISP's mail to work with Kmail. > > With "QuickQuote" T-Bird will quote only what you highlight. > > I tried to find Quick Quote for Linux and couldn't. I also tried using Adept Package Manager. I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so others could learn from it. What am I missing? From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:32:37 2008 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:02:37 +0530 Subject: Strange dependency problem: m4 Message-ID: <78323d480812051432t4e2934f8n952663ff8fb61e93@mail.gmail.com> I am using the usual repos + medibuntu's In kubuntu-8.10. The following errors could not be fixed with apt-get check, or dpkg --configure .... or dpkg other options. What should be done? $ sudo apt-get install flex Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done flex is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 32 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up m4 (1.4.11-1) ... install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information. dpkg: error processing m4 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of flex: flex depends on m4; however: Package m4 is not configured yet. No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up a2ps (1:4.14-1) ... install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information. dpkg: error processing a2ps (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of autoconf: autoconf depends on m4 (>= 1.4.8); however: Package m4 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing autoconf (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured _____________________________________________________ m4 has just 1 dependency ...libc6 Thanks A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 22:44:28 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:44:28 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812060813.08769.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <200812060813.08769.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939AECC.2040702@sbcglobal.net> > There should have been *heaps* of output on the console. The other time I enter kmail and pressed enter, it just returned on the very next line as follows: steven at Studio25:~$. I don't remember if Kmail was closed so perhaps that is what happened. This time I am getting lots of info. Here it is: WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "move_message_to_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "copy_message_to_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "jump_to_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "jump_to_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "cancel" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "inc_current_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "dec_current_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "select_current_folder" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "inc_current_message" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "dec_current_message" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "select_current_message" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "edit" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "delete" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "post_message" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "use_template" kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x81a2bb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "display_message" steven at Studio25:~$ steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail 6873 pts/1 00:00:03 kmail steven at Studio25:~$ steven at Studio25:~$ I copied and pasted the first part to the email before I entered ps -e|grep kmail. > Did you close kmail > first before starting it from the console? Yes > Remember that KMail can close to the > tray which means it is still running. If so then right click its tray icon and > choose quit. > > To double check it no longer running type the following on the konsole: > > ps -e|grep kmail > > If kmail is output then its still running. > > (How this works - Ignore the following explanation if you like) > "ps -e" lists all the running processes. The "|" symbol "pipes" the output to > the "grep" command. "grep kmail" filters the output for just the lines that > contain "kmail". The overall effect is to just list the running processes > called "kmail" > > Assuming kmail is no longer running try running kmail from the konsole and > sending a email to yahoo again. > How do I send an email from the konsole? > > Cheers, > > > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:46:45 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:46:45 +1000 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060846.45972.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:12:55 am Steven Vollom wrote: > If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, > addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? I'm pretty sure that's the case. It works for me, however all my email and contacts are stored on my (separate) IMAP server so they are always safe anyway. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:48:42 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:48:42 +1000 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060848.42624.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:28:56 am Steven Vollom wrote: > tried to find Quick Quote for Linux and couldn't Its a Thunderbird extension, operating system independent and not part of Linux. Home page here: http://quickquote.mozdev.org/installation.html -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 22:50:31 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:50:31 -0500 Subject: EMERGENCY **Resolved enough** In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B037.8000809@sbcglobal.net> I don't even know what changes I have made, but although the computer does not function as before, it works well enough for me to enter Konsole for use and the Package Managers. I did not reinstall. I believe it will work well enough to last until my new computer works. Thanks! Steven From rlp1938 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:58:12 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:58:12 +0700 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Steven Vollom wrote: > If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, > addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? Yes you will save the items you mention. If you have done any system wide changes ie edited any of the files in /etc you might want to look at backing up /etc Also, if you have installed some software in addition to what got installed when you first installed your system you might want to backup /var/cache/apt Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:00:23 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:00:23 -0500 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <200812060846.45972.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <200812060846.45972.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B287.8010401@sbcglobal.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:12:55 am Steven Vollom wrote: > >> If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, >> addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? >> > > I'm pretty sure that's the case. It works for me, however all my email and > contacts are stored on my (separate) IMAP server so they are always safe > anyway. > > > Will you explain 'stored on my (separate) IMAP server'? Could I do that? And how? Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:05:04 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:05:04 +0200 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to > keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so > others could learn from it. What am I missing? > Just erase all the second-level [and higher] quotes unless they are directly relevant to your post. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:05:14 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:05:14 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939AECC.2040702@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060813.08769.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939AECC.2040702@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:44:28 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail > 6873 pts/1 00:00:03 kmail > steven at Studio25:~$ > steven at Studio25:~$ > > I copied and pasted the first part to the email before I entered ps > -e|grep kmail. Thanks Steve, but you were meant to do that *before* running kmail so as to check it wasn't already running :) I'm not seeing any sign of a message compose or send attempt in the logging - could you try again ? Close kmail after the send. Also - the message just staying in your outbox doesn't it? -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:12:42 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:12:42 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051512jc681e47s2758da8f90e969b4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? >> If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password. >> > Already that way >> Also, please confirm or deny: You can download email from your Yahoo >> account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. >> > confirm > Which encryption method are you using? Which authentication method are you using? Have you confirmed that the server supports it? Off topic note to Steven: Note that here I quoted two levels deep, as there was critical information there that is part of the trouble shooting process and will be of value to archive diggers. Some people would have simply not quoted anything in this case, which would be fine too. But by including this off-topic note, I've certainly offended a Linux Guru or two! Please flame me off list, thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 5 23:13:49 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:13:49 -0600 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4939B5AD.1070701@swbell.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > >> On 12/05/2008 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> >>> You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the >>> parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great >>> email client. >>> >>> >>> >> Steven can't get his ISP's mail to work with Kmail. >> >> With "QuickQuote" T-Bird will quote only what you highlight. >> >> >> > I tried to find Quick Quote for Linux and couldn't. I also tried using > Adept Package Manager. I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to > keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so > others could learn from it. What am I missing? > > QuickQuote is a Mozdev.org. Available at: http://quickquote.mozdev.org/ Installs in Thunderbird as an addon: Tools > Add-ons Save it to your hard drive someplace you know where it is and install. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:14:33 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:14:33 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812051514xf27071bx7f991a70ccb9f50e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Willy Hamra : > i do have the fuzzy clock dotan :S > search with apt-cache for plasmoids. there's a package that contains a > set of standard plasmoids that comes with KDE4, i think the fuzzy > clock is one of them > Thanks, Willy. I will try that when I get back to that machine. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:17:04 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:17:04 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060813.08769.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939AECC.2040702@sbcglobal.net> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:44:28 am Steven Vollom wrote: > >> steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail >> 6873 pts/1 00:00:03 kmail >> steven at Studio25:~$ >> steven at Studio25:~$ >> >> I copied and pasted the first part to the email before I entered ps >> -e|grep kmail. >> > > > Thanks Steve, but you were meant to do that *before* running kmail so as to > check it wasn't already running :) > > > I'm not seeing any sign of a message compose or send attempt in the logging - > could you try again ? Close kmail after the send. > > Also - the message just staying in your outbox doesn't it? > Yes. > > > I opened Konsole typed in 'ps -e|grep kmail' then typed in 'kmail' and it opened. I then double-clicked the email in the Outbox; it opened. I clicked Send. I then closed the Kmail program. I typed kmail in the terminal. Below is everything that showed up in the Konsole: steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail 6873 ? 00:00:03 kmail steven at Studio25:~$ kmail steven at Studio25:~$ steven at Studio25:~$ kmail steven at Studio25:~$ I was expecting more information. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:19:23 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:19:23 -0500 Subject: Home Directory RESOLVED In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B6FB.9050605@sbcglobal.net> Robert Parker wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Steven Vollom > wrote: > >> If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, >> addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? >> > > Yes you will save the items you mention. > If you have done any system wide changes ie edited any of the files in > /etc you might want to look at backing up /etc > Also, if you have installed some software in addition to what got > installed when you first installed your system you might want to > backup /var/cache/apt > > Bob > Thanks Bob From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:20:43 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:20:43 +1000 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <4939B287.8010401@sbcglobal.net> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <200812060846.45972.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B287.8010401@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060920.43616.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:00:23 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > Will you explain 'stored on my (separate) IMAP server'? Could I do > that? And how? I have a server PC (actually a mythbuntu box) that runs my private IMAP server. It pulls all my emails from my ISP for me and stores them on its hard disk. The IMAP server makes them accessible via imap which is a email retrieval protocol like POP. Unlike pop it is designed for remote access so the emails stay on the server and my desktop KMail just views them remotely. It means if I trash my desktop - which I do on a regular basis because I just can't resist tweaking things :) then my emails and contacts are still safely stored on the server. Also I get webmail as well. However setting up and maintaining a IMAP server is a non trivial task. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:24:22 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:24:22 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051512jc681e47s2758da8f90e969b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051512jc681e47s2758da8f90e969b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B826.5010803@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? >>> If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password. >>> >>> >> Already that way >> >>> Also, please confirm or deny: You can download email from your Yahoo >>> account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. >>> >>> >> confirm >> >> > > Which encryption method are you using? Which authentication method are > you using? Have you confirmed that the server supports it? > SSL Yes. > Off topic note to Steven: Note that here I quoted two levels deep, as > there was critical information there that is part of the trouble > shooting process and will be of value to archive diggers. I don't understand what you mean. It is probably what is upsetting the other fellow. I want to get it right. I want to stay welcome. > Some people > would have simply not quoted anything in this case, which would be > fine too. But by including this off-topic note, I've certainly > offended a Linux Guru or two! Please flame me off list, thanks! > I hope they will forgive me until I understand. I want to be perfect in my requests and responses. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:26:00 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:26:00 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B888.1080505@sbcglobal.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > >> I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to >> keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so >> others could learn from it. What am I missing? >> >> > > Just erase all the second-level [and higher] quotes unless they are > directly relevant to your post. > > I may understand now. If you notice improvement in my posting. Let me know, so I know I am on the right track. Also criticize heavily so I change sooner. Thanks friend. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:28:22 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:28:22 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B916.7020007@sbcglobal.net> Donn wrote: > On Friday, 05 December 2008 16:51:02 Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I have a gmail account. >> > Steven - you can use your gmail account from kmail (and other email clients > too) -- http://mail.google.com/support/ and read about sending/receiving. > > hth > \d > > I have been sending my gmail address to people I don't know. I set it up so Gmail passes them immediately to my regular account. That way they can't get directly to me. Is this OK? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:30:24 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:30:24 -0500 Subject: Home Directory **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <200812060920.43616.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <200812060846.45972.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B287.8010401@sbcglobal.net> <200812060920.43616.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939B990.9070700@sbcglobal.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:00:23 am Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Will you explain 'stored on my (separate) IMAP server'? Could I do >> that? And how? >> > > I have a server PC (actually a mythbuntu box) that runs my private IMAP > server. It pulls all my emails from my ISP for me and stores them on its hard > disk. The IMAP server makes them accessible via imap which is a email > retrieval protocol like POP. Unlike pop it is designed for remote access so > the emails stay on the server and my desktop KMail just views them remotely. > > It means if I trash my desktop - which I do on a regular basis because I just > can't resist tweaking things :) then my emails and contacts are still safely > stored on the server. Also I get webmail as well. > > However setting up and maintaining a IMAP server is a non trivial task. > > > Thanks! From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:30:26 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:30:26 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> > I opened Konsole typed in 'ps -e|grep kmail' then typed in 'kmail' and > it opened. I then double-clicked the email in the Outbox; it opened. I > clicked Send. I then closed the Kmail program. I typed kmail in the > terminal. Below is everything that showed up in the Konsole: > > steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail > 6873 ? 00:00:03 kmail > steven at Studio25:~$ kmail > > steven at Studio25:~$ > steven at Studio25:~$ kmail > steven at Studio25:~$ > > I was expecting more information. Thats because kmail was still running - the output from ps shows that. If kmail is still running when you enter it at the konsole it will just switch to that, hence no output. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:41:15 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:15 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939B5AD.1070701@swbell.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> <4939B5AD.1070701@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4939BC1B.4080101@sbcglobal.net> Billie Walsh wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Billie Walsh wrote: >> >> >>> >>> With "QuickQuote" T-Bird will quote only what you highlight. >>> >>> >>> >>> > I typed in QuickQuote in the search for all Mozilla Firefox addons using the link you provided. Nothing came up. There were 100 pages of add ons, so I did not search independently. What did I do wrong? > From chief at porterfire.org Fri Dec 5 23:43:23 2008 From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:43:23 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid Message-ID: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> On Friday 05 December 2008 17:20:49 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Instructions on how to upgrade here: > http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 > > Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is > no backing out. > > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual > New and improved features in KMail! > > However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The > Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to disable > akonadi altogether. > > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths > is worse than ever. > > If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. > Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) > > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > > Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step > forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 I did this and havent found the problems you mention. I did notice a VERY LARGE NUMBER of kde apps being "held back" though? Mike From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:48:28 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:48:28 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <4939BDCC.2090205@gmail.com> lists at ptfd.org wrote: > On Friday 05 December 2008 17:20:49 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> Instructions on how to upgrade here: >> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 >> >> Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is >> no backing out. >> >> Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual >> New and improved features in KMail! >> >> However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The >> Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to disable >> akonadi altogether. >> >> The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths >> is worse than ever. >> >> If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. >> Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) >> >> Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! >> >> Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step >> forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 > I did this and havent found the problems you mention. I did notice a VERY > LARGE NUMBER of kde apps being "held back" though? > how did you upgrade? in apt or aptitude, using upgrade causes this. to resolve it, use dist-upgrade with apt or fullupgrade with aptitude. as for graphical package managers, i'm not sure... -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:50:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:50:42 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> I opened Konsole typed in 'ps -e|grep kmail' then typed in 'kmail' and >> it opened. I then double-clicked the email in the Outbox; it opened. I >> clicked Send. I then closed the Kmail program. I typed kmail in the >> terminal. Below is everything that showed up in the Konsole: >> >> steven at Studio25:~$ ps -e|grep kmail >> 6873 ? 00:00:03 kmail >> steven at Studio25:~$ kmail >> >> steven at Studio25:~$ >> steven at Studio25:~$ kmail >> steven at Studio25:~$ >> >> I was expecting more information. >> > > Thats because kmail was still running - the output from ps shows that. If > kmail is still running when you enter it at the konsole it will just switch to > that, hence no output. > I never open Kmail, unless I want it. I looked to see if it showed on the taskbar. It was not. Are you saying it is running and not on screen or the taskbar? When I boot up, it opens. I close it at that time. I do that because I can't send, so it is meaningless to have it open. Maybe this is more of the Newbie experience. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 5 23:57:58 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:57:58 -0500 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939C006.5020208@sbcglobal.net> Robert Parker wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Steven Vollom > wrote: > >> If I copy my home directory, do I save my email records, bookmarks, >> addressbook, stuff you don't want to lose when you format a drive? >> > > Yes you will save the items you mention. > If you have done any system wide changes ie edited any of the files in > /etc you might want to look at backing up /etc > I don't know how to edit anything yet, if it means changing instructions using a Konsole. > Also, if you have installed some software in addition to what got > installed when you first installed your system you might want to > backup /var/cache/apt > > Bob > From chief at porterfire.org Sat Dec 6 00:09:08 2008 From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:09:08 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <4939BDCC.2090205@gmail.com> References: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> <4939BDCC.2090205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812051909.08330.lists@ptfd.org> On Friday 05 December 2008 18:48:28 Willy K. Hamra wrote: > lists at ptfd.org wrote: > > On Friday 05 December 2008 17:20:49 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > >> Instructions on how to upgrade here: > >> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 > >> > >> Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there > >> is no backing out. > >> > >> Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. > >> Actual New and improved features in KMail! > >> > >> However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The > >> Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to > >> disable akonadi altogether. > >> > >> The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random > >> widths is worse than ever. > >> > >> If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. > >> Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) > >> > >> Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > >> > >> Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big > >> step forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 > > > > I did this and havent found the problems you mention. I did notice a VERY > > LARGE NUMBER of kde apps being "held back" though? > > how did you upgrade? in apt or aptitude, using upgrade causes this. to > resolve it, use dist-upgrade with apt or fullupgrade with aptitude. > as for graphical package managers, i'm not sure... Ahh used apt. I knew there was a trick that I missed somewhere. I may leave it if there is so much trouble with kmail. Mike From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 00:30:30 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:30:30 +1000 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812051909.08330.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> <4939BDCC.2090205@gmail.com> <200812051909.08330.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200812061030.30722.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:09:08 am lists at ptfd.org wrote: > Ahh used apt. I knew there was a trick that I missed somewhere. I may leave > it if there is so much trouble with kmail. But that's where all the best new goodies are! There's some lovely new grouping features in Kmail, group by date with threading enabled is surprisingly useful. Knew I should have taken notes ... I had to re-register the akonadiserver with dbus before the (automatic) akonadi migration would work. Then I had issues with kmail starting outside of kontact - if you don't use kontact then probably not an issue. To resolve it I went into SystemSettings| KDE4 Resources and switched all the resources back from akonadi back to std kmail resources. This probably won't be an issue at all if you don't have kmail in groupware mode or use the std kontact file resources - I use IMAP ones for contacts and calendar. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 00:30:54 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:30:54 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939B826.5010803@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051512jc681e47s2758da8f90e969b4@mail.gmail.com> <4939B826.5010803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051630g418ddb28p1ad9fc5e01e4d3e9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : >> Which encryption method are you using? Which authentication method are >> you using? Have you confirmed that the server supports it? >> > SSL Yes. SSL is the encryption. What method of authentication are you using? >> Off topic note to Steven: Note that here I quoted two levels deep, as >> there was critical information there that is part of the trouble >> shooting process and will be of value to archive diggers. > I don't understand what you mean. It is probably what is upsetting the > other fellow. I want to get it right. I want to stay welcome. You will remain welcome, don't worry about that! However, you should have erased this text from your mail: ----begin---- > 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? >>> If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password. >>> >>> >> Already that way >> >>> Also, please confirm or deny: You can download email from your Yahoo >>> account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. >>> >>> >> confirm >> >> ----end---- Now, go open your Sent folder and find the message that I am replying to. See all that text there? It shouldn't be there, you should have trimmed (erased) it. >> Some people >> would have simply not quoted anything in this case, which would be >> fine too. But by including this off-topic note, I've certainly >> offended a Linux Guru or two! Please flame me off list, thanks! >> > I hope they will forgive me until I understand. I want to be perfect in > my requests and responses. > Steven, don't worry, you are forgiven and welcome and we are here for you! In general the community would prefer better trimming of your quotes, but it is NOT such a big deal on this mailing list as it is on other Linux mailing lists. You do not need to be submissive. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 00:32:14 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:32:14 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > I never open Kmail, unless I want it. I looked to see if it showed on > the taskbar. It was not. Are you saying it is running and not on > screen or the taskbar? When I boot up, it opens. I close it at that > time. I do that because I can't send, so it is meaningless to have it > open. Maybe this is more of the Newbie experience. > When you close Kmail, make sure that the tray icon is not running. If the tray icon is running, close it by right clicking on it and selecting Quit. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From rlp1938 at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 00:39:29 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:39:29 +0700 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <4939C006.5020208@sbcglobal.net> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <8f6eb7340812051458k45f1ac1aq62d707ea28c6d171@mail.gmail.com> <4939C006.5020208@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812051639m1b57ef5fl8cd60282bbf239f4@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Steven Vollom wrote: >> If you have done any system wide changes ie edited any of the files in >> /etc you might want to look at backing up /etc >> > I don't know how to edit anything yet, if it means changing instructions > using a Konsole. Ok chances are that you don't need to worry about backing up /etc Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 00:44:57 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:44:57 +0200 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939B888.1080505@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> <4939B888.1080505@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051644w4d1f8bc1w37cb6af86b5d5c98@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : >> >>> I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to >>> keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so >>> others could learn from it. What am I missing? >>> >>> >> >> Just erase all the second-level [and higher] quotes unless they are >> directly relevant to your post. >> >> > I may understand now. If you notice improvement in my posting. Let me > know, so I know I am on the right track. Also criticize heavily so I > change sooner. Thanks friend. > Alright, let's practice. Reply to this email and quote only this line. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From chief at porterfire.org Sat Dec 6 00:48:29 2008 From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:48:29 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812061030.30722.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> <200812051909.08330.lists@ptfd.org> <200812061030.30722.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812051948.29666.lists@ptfd.org> On Friday 05 December 2008 19:30:30 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:09:08 am lists at ptfd.org wrote: > > Ahh used apt. I knew there was a trick that I missed somewhere. I may > > leave it if there is so much trouble with kmail. > > But that's where all the best new goodies are! > > There's some lovely new grouping features in Kmail, group by date with > threading enabled is surprisingly useful. > > Knew I should have taken notes ... > > I had to re-register the akonadiserver with dbus before the (automatic) > akonadi migration would work. > > Then I had issues with kmail starting outside of kontact - if you don't use > kontact then probably not an issue. To resolve it I went into > SystemSettings| KDE4 Resources and switched all the resources back from > akonadi back to std kmail resources. > > This probably won't be an issue at all if you don't have kmail in > groupware mode or use the std kontact file resources - I use IMAP ones for > contacts and calendar. > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album Therein lies the issue, I am using the IMAP and gcaldaemon for google calendars (multiple), and trying to set it up for an exchange server on one of my accounts... I dont think I have akonadi installed now? Mike From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 01:15:58 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:15:58 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051630g418ddb28p1ad9fc5e01e4d3e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938EC4C.3010805@sbcglobal.net> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051324g945b560k481318e1d3c1913@mail.gmail.com> <4939A7C1.1010504@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051512jc681e47s2758da8f90e969b4@mail.gmail.com> <4939B826.5010803@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051630g418ddb28p1ad9fc5e01e4d3e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939D24E.2010804@sbcglobal.net> >> *2008/12/6 Steven Vollom :* >> This line is erroneous so eliminate? >> >>> >>> >>>> *Steven, do you have a checkmark for "server requires authentication"? >>>> If not, then try checking it and entering your username and password.* >>>> Is this because he doesn't need an answer? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> Also, *please confirm or deny*: You can download email from your Yahoo >>>> account to Kmail, but cannot send mail. >>>> He is asking for a yes or no, if he continues to try to help won't he need that answer? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > I have a headache trying to figure it out, but is this right? > > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 01:20:55 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +1000 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812051948.29666.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200812051843.23301.lists@ptfd.org> <200812061030.30722.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200812051948.29666.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200812061120.55487.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:48:29 am lists at ptfd.org wrote: > Therein lies the issue, I am using the IMAP and gcaldaemon for google > calendars (multiple), and trying to set it up for an exchange server on one > of my accounts... > > I dont think I have akonadi installed now? Ah - yes, probably not a good idea. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 01:25:35 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:25:35 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939D48F.9090301@sbcglobal.net> I am probably not using the term right but, when I click on the minus sign in the upper right corner and the page goes to (I have been calling it Taskbar, but it may be Tray Icon) it remains on, just not on the desktop. If I right-click on that item on the Taskbar and click Quit, don't I shut the program off? If that is the case, It was off when I typed in the instruction into the Konsole. When I right-click on the Kmail Icon on the taskbar I get configuration options not quit. I guess most people keep the bar I am talking about at the bottom of the screen. I don't Kmenu drops down from where I keep what I am calling a Taskbar. What do you call the bar I call Taskbar? If I erased too much, I am trying to learn how to trim. > When you close Kmail, make sure that the tray icon is not running. If > the tray icon is running, close it by right clicking on it and > selecting Quit. > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 01:29:07 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:29:07 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051644w4d1f8bc1w37cb6af86b5d5c98@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> <4939B888.1080505@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051644w4d1f8bc1w37cb6af86b5d5c98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4939D563.5070204@sbcglobal.net> >>> >>> >>>> I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to >>>> keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so >>>> others could learn from it. What am I missing? >>>> >>>> >>>> > From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 01:32:15 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:32:15 +0200 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <4939D563.5070204@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812050841.55311.atrypa@eskimo.com> <4939766F.2020303@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051123k22263ee2xa37e4baf088d0037@mail.gmail.com> <4939A360.103@swbell.net> <4939AB28.8090801@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051505g7c32e915uc8d54936328e121a@mail.gmail.com> <4939B888.1080505@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051644w4d1f8bc1w37cb6af86b5d5c98@mail.gmail.com> <4939D563.5070204@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4939D61F.2050100@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am willing to delete all un-relevant data to >>>>> keep the content down, but I was once told to leave the post alone so >>>>> others could learn from it. What am I missing? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > steven, it's true. you need to keep **some** of the original message, but not all of it. only keep the relevant data -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What am I missing? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> Nope, try again. Click Reply, and erase everything but this line. Then send. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sat Dec 6 02:36:49 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:36:49 -0500 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 33 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4939E541.1090907@cfl.rr.com> It took awhile, but I managed to find QuickQuote and install it into TBird. This is just to show how nicely it did the job. Usually, when I reply to this list the first number of lines within the preset limit are quoted and nothing else. By selecting what I wanted to appear in the quote and right-clicking on the screen, I got to send what I wished and only that. Thank you! Tom Bell -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) On 12/05/2008 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed: > Message: 7 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:55:44 -0600 From: Billie Walsh Subject: Re: Keep it short To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Message-ID: <4939A360.103 at swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/05/2008 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > You might also want to look into Kmail, which lets one highlight the >> > parts of messages that he wants to quote. Kmail really is a great >> > email client. >> > > > Steven can't get his ISP's mail to work with Kmail. > > With "QuickQuote" T-Bird will quote only what you highlight. > > -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From mailinglist at endosquid.com Sat Dec 6 02:41:22 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:41:22 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812052141.22667.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Friday 05 December 2008, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual > New and improved features in KMail! FYI, *watch out* for the new sorting/grouping oddness that comes by default in Kmail. Took me 30 solid minutes of experimentation just to get threads and no groups...I just want a straight sortable subject and/or date. Ugh. > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths > is worse than ever. Agreed. > If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. > Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) There are also other plasma packages that get the packages you'll need... I had good luck with these packages: ii kdebase-plasma 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 plasma widgets from the KDE 4 base applications module. ii kdeplasma-addons 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 plasmoids for KDE 4 Plasma - main package ii kdeplasma-addons-data 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 plasmoids for KDE 4 Plasma - data files ii kwin-style-powder 0.6-2 Powder plasmaoid window decoration for kde ii libplasma-dev 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2 development files for theKDE 4 Plasma desktop ii libplasma3 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2 library for the KDE 4 Plasma desktop By the way, you can now hide system tray icons. Thank god! From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 02:42:48 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:42:48 +1000 Subject: KMail (KDE 4.2) Alternating Colours in msg list Message-ID: <200812061242.48317.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Anyone know how to turn off the alternating colours/shades in the message and folder lists? I find it really annoying. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 02:43:20 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:43:20 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939D48F.9090301@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> <4939D48F.9090301@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812051843u335a9f96uf74a7995538b957d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > I am probably not using the term right but, when I click on the minus > sign in the upper right corner and the page goes to (I have been calling > it Taskbar, but it may be Tray Icon) it remains on, just not on the > desktop. If I right-click on that item on the Taskbar and click Quit, > don't I shut the program off? If that is the case, It was off when I > typed in the instruction into the Konsole. > > When I right-click on the Kmail Icon on the taskbar I get configuration > options not quit. I guess most people keep the bar I am talking about > at the bottom of the screen. I don't Kmenu drops down from where I keep > what I am calling a Taskbar. What do you call the bar I call Taskbar? > The Taskbar is where you see the windows that you can Alt-Tab to. The System Tray is where notifications and persistent applications are shown. The Taskbar _usually_ shows an icon and the window title, whereas the Taskbar _usually_ shows only an icon. If you post a screenshot I will post it back with the interface elements clearly marked. Make sure that Kmail (and Kontact if you use it) are closed in both the Taskbar and the System Tray before launching Kmail from the Konsole. > If I erased too much, I am trying to learn how to trim. You trimmed perfectly! (you top posted, though :) ) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 03:53:05 2008 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:53:05 -0500 Subject: asus 4850 work ? In-Reply-To: References: <69c7ddfb0811271848h70f972b1t4d7ab1b1536bd6e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0812051953x50bed170sa11f37f3f7579e9a@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/11/28 uriah heep : > > I am fed up trying to get my nvidia 9700 to work under 8.10 and am > > considering getting an asus top 4850 as I understand amd cards now work > > better under Linux. Anyone using one and what kind of lick are you > having? > > > > Hi! > > I just saw this blog > http://www.undefinedfire.com/kde/last-call-for-help/ and remembered > your mail and it looks like ATI cards is not a good combination with > KDE 4. > > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Thanks for the info. I have my card running at 800x600 @ 72 hz so I can work with what I have till all this gets straightened out. Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundar.personal at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 05:45:51 2008 From: sundar.personal at gmail.com (Sundar Nagarajan) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:45:51 -0800 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <2164666.TQd8FhyYzW@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <2164666.TQd8FhyYzW@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Bas Roufs wrote: > >> A growing number of websites I visit, require some 'Java plugin'. The >> key word 'Java' in Synaptic showed a whole bunch of Java related >> packages - none of them have been installed by default. Could you >> recommend me which Java package(s) are most useful when working with >> Firefox and OpenOffice? >> > sun-java6-plugin > > That will get all the other dependencies you need. Sun doesn't offer a 64-bit browser plugin (yet). If you are on a 32-bit platform, sun-java6-plugin is the right answer, as per Derek's email. If you are on a 64-bit platform, you'll need openjdk, which has a 64-bit Java applet plugin (note that a regular Java JVM / JRE is different from a browser plugin). The following are the java-related packages that I have installed for this purpose: java-common libaccess-bridge-java openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib tzdata-java Sundar. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 07:21:30 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:21:30 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> Donn wrote: > On Friday, 05 December 2008 16:51:02 Steven Vollom wrote: >> I have a gmail account. > Steven - you can use your gmail account from kmail (and other email clients > too) -- http://mail.google.com/support/ and read about sending/receiving. > > hth > \d > That is exactly what i would like Steven to try. If that works I would say the ISP has some funny protocol/filter whatever problem. If it does not work (as it does for me on KDE 3.5.10, Hardy 8.04.1) then there is something wrong with the Kmail install. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 07:39:29 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:39:29 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <4939B916.7020007@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4939B916.7020007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493A2C31.6090609@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Donn wrote: >> On Friday, 05 December 2008 16:51:02 Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> I have a gmail account. >>> >> Steven - you can use your gmail account from kmail (and other email clients >> too) -- http://mail.google.com/support/ and read about sending/receiving. >> >> hth >> \d >> >> > I have been sending my gmail address to people I don't know. I set it > up so Gmail passes them immediately to my regular account. That way > they can't get directly to me. Is this OK? > I understand why you have done so but what we would like you to test is to set up the gmail account for sending as smtp gateway. You find how on http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287 If that works, given it is exactly the same method as your ISP should use, then your ISP has some sort of problem. If it does not work then I would say it is your installation of KMail that is problematic somehow. From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Dec 6 08:32:54 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:32:54 -0800 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493A38B6.60405@dmiyu.org> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual > New and improved features in KMail! Hrm, so far it's been frustrating. Loaded the updates, logged out of my session then the screen would not update inside my VM until I clicked outside the VM. So to do anything I'd click on it then outside my VM, click on the next thing, outside my VM. Restarting the X server fixed that but it was quite odd. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But boy howdy if you change a theme it lets you know about it... a lot.... really. >.< And PGP signing still does not work. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From tuxebi at gmx.de Sat Dec 6 09:45:04 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:45:04 +0100 Subject: EMERGENCY **Resolved enough** In-Reply-To: <4939B037.8000809@sbcglobal.net> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051130y5f516721g521f69c7572c6312@mail.gmail.com> <4939B037.8000809@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I don't even know what changes I have made, but although the computer > does not function as before, it works well enough for me to enter > Konsole for use and the Package Managers. I did not reinstall. I > believe it will work well enough to last until my new computer works. > Thanks! > Steven > Dear Steven, ok, then do yourself a favour, open your package manager and remove ANYTHING that is related to compiz. Apparently a: Compiz is not up to the task of running on your computer and b: your computer is not up to the task of running compiz Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Sat Dec 6 09:55:47 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:55:47 +0100 Subject: QuickQuote on TB works great (was: Re: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 33) In-Reply-To: <4939E541.1090907@cfl.rr.com> References: <4939E541.1090907@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: tom bell wrote: > It took awhile, but I managed to find QuickQuote and install it into > TBird. This is just to show how nicely it did the job. Hi Tom, excellent! I'll try it out. Next small and very easy step will be to change your subject line from "Re: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 33" to something more meaningful. Actually this "Digest Subject Desease" made me stop consuming my mailing lists in digests, no matter how convenient it was. Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Sat Dec 6 10:18:23 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:18:23 +0100 Subject: Keyboard and mouse intermittant. In-Reply-To: <49397CEE.40505@sbcglobal.net> References: <49397CEE.40505@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I may have a virus. Never had one before, but the keyboard is working > when I am writing this, however, if I want to open a package manager, my > password won't enter. It is like the keyboard is not working. Many > times when I click on an item, I have to repeat the process many times > before it actually engages. Moving the mouse around the screen is slow > and stuttery. > > Steven > Hi Steven, it is extemely unlikely that you got a virus, after all your are on Linux. Please see my aswer to your "EMERGENCY" post. I cannot guarantee that this will solve it, but imho it's definitely worth to try as a first step. And as far as I remember your problems began after aktivating compiz, didn't they? If you have any more questions, just come back. You are always wellcome! Kind regards Eberhard From dave at thefletchers.net Sat Dec 6 10:31:51 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:31:51 +0000 Subject: Home Directory In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340812051639m1b57ef5fl8cd60282bbf239f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4939A767.1080509@sbcglobal.net> <4939C006.5020208@sbcglobal.net> <8f6eb7340812051639m1b57ef5fl8cd60282bbf239f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812061031.59344.dave@thefletchers.net> On Saturday 06 Dec 2008, Robert Parker wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Steven Vollom > wrote: > > >> If you have done any system wide changes ie edited any of the files in > >> /etc you might want to look at backing up /etc > >> > > I don't know how to edit anything yet, if it means changing instructions > > using a Konsole. > > Ok chances are that you don't need to worry about backing up /etc > > Bob > -- > In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Here is my backup script, if it's of use to anybody. I keep a backup of my /etc directories, not to put them back exactly as they were, but so that I can look back at them when I upgrade to the next version of the OS and see what tricks I did to make things work the way I wanted before. Anybody who wants to keep and use the lines to back up files from another machine (the server) will need to use the copy public ssh key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the other machine trick to make it work smoothly. And no, I've not set a root password to do this. Dave #! /bin/bash # Local etc directory rsync -av --delete /etc/ /home/dave/backups/copyoflocalslashetc/ # server /etc directory # Make sure it's alve and kicking first! if ping -c1 -w2 server /dev/null then sudo -u dave rsync -av --delete root at server:/etc/ /home/dave/backups/copyofserverslashetc/ fi # server /var/mail directory # Make sure it's alve and kicking first! if ping -c1 -w2 server /dev/null then sudo -u dave rsync -av --delete root at server:/var/mail/ /home/dave/backups/copyofserverslashvarslashmail/ fi aptitude search '~i !~M' | tr -s ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' > /home/dave/backups/AppsInstalledList.txt tar cvpfz /root/home`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.tar.gz --exclude=Cache --exclude=.googleearth --exclude=.thumbnails /home/* # Nothing to back up from /var/spool/mail/ with the server #tar cvfz /root/var_spool_mail`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.tar.gz /var/spool/mail/* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Dec 6 12:32:37 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:32:37 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 2:21:30 am O. Sinclair wrote: > Donn wrote: > That is exactly what i would like Steven to try. If that works I would > say the ISP has some funny protocol/filter whatever problem. If it does > not work (as it does for me on KDE 3.5.10, Hardy 8.04.1) then there is > something wrong with the Kmail install. It works fine here on 8.10. I'm even using AT&T like Steven is. I starting to wonder if it's because he's using @sbcglobal instead of @att.net. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 12:48:33 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:48:33 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 06 December 2008 2:21:30 am O. Sinclair wrote: >> Donn wrote: > >> That is exactly what i would like Steven to try. If that works I would >> say the ISP has some funny protocol/filter whatever problem. If it does >> not work (as it does for me on KDE 3.5.10, Hardy 8.04.1) then there is >> something wrong with the Kmail install. > > It works fine here on 8.10. I'm even using AT&T like Steven is. I starting to > wonder if it's because he's using @sbcglobal instead of @att.net. Well if that would be the problem then it must be something with his account or the isp - still given he can make gmail sending work as that would prove that KMail works the way it should. So I still think Steven should set up his gmail account in KMail for sending and see if it works or not From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Dec 6 12:48:34 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:48:34 -0500 Subject: Automount on 8.10 Message-ID: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> Hi all, Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and click on it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry for the partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry like I have always done in previous version. Thanks, -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Dec 6 12:56:18 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:56:18 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812060756.18849.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 7:48:33 am O. Sinclair wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Saturday 06 December 2008 2:21:30 am O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Donn wrote: > >> > >> That is exactly what i would like Steven to try. If that works I would > >> say the ISP has some funny protocol/filter whatever problem. If it does > >> not work (as it does for me on KDE 3.5.10, Hardy 8.04.1) then there is > >> something wrong with the Kmail install. > > > > It works fine here on 8.10. I'm even using AT&T like Steven is. I > > starting to wonder if it's because he's using @sbcglobal instead of > > @att.net. > > Well if that would be the problem then it must be something with his > account or the isp - still given he can make gmail sending work as that > would prove that KMail works the way it should. > > So I still think Steven should set up his gmail account in KMail for > sending and see if it works or not I agree. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 13:36:03 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:36:03 +1000 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812062336.03838.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:48:33 pm O. Sinclair wrote: > Well if that would be the problem then it must be something with his > account or the isp - still given he can make gmail sending work as that > would prove that KMail works the way it should. According to a much earlier post of Stevens, sending with Thunderbird through yahoo works fine. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 6 14:22:07 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:22:07 -0600 Subject: QuickQuote on TB works great In-Reply-To: References: <4939E541.1090907@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <493A8A8F.9050600@swbell.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > tom bell wrote: > >> It took awhile, but I managed to find QuickQuote and install it into >> TBird. This is just to show how nicely it did the job. >> > > Hi Tom, > > excellent! I'll try it out. > > Next small and very easy step will be to change your > subject line from "Re: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 33" > > to something more meaningful. > > Actually this "Digest Subject Desease" made me stop consuming my mailing > lists in digests, no matter how convenient it was. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > > I can't believe that so many haven't used QuickQuote. I've been using it for years. It must have been the best kept non-secret ever. The thing I've never been able to figure out is why it isn't just incorporated into T-bird. This is something that should just be SOP for any mail program. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 6 14:41:56 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:41:56 -0600 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493A8F34.4080204@swbell.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 06 December 2008 2:21:30 am O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Donn wrote: >> > > >> That is exactly what i would like Steven to try. If that works I would >> say the ISP has some funny protocol/filter whatever problem. If it does >> not work (as it does for me on KDE 3.5.10, Hardy 8.04.1) then there is >> something wrong with the Kmail install. >> > > It works fine here on 8.10. I'm even using AT&T like Steven is. I starting to > wonder if it's because he's using @sbcglobal instead of @att.net. > From the ATT/Yahoo help pages: (No they don't support FF but the settings are the same for FF OE ) 1. Verify these settings: * For "*My incoming mail server is a ____ server*," the field contains *POP3*. * The *Incoming mail (POP3)* and *Outgoing mail (SMTP) *fields* *contain the correct mail server settings . * The *Account name* field contains your full AT&T email address (e.g., YourName at att.net). * The box next to *Log on using Secure Password Authentication* is NOT checked. * The *My* *server requires authentication* box is checked. 2. Verify these settings: *Note: *When updating the secure sever settings, check SSL checkbox first, then update the port number setting. * Under Outgoing mail (SMTP) should be port 465 and the box next to *This server requires a secure connection (SSL)* is checked. * Under Incoming mail (POP3) should be port 995 and the box next to *This server requires a secure connection (SSL)* is checked. *Mail Server (POP, SMTP) Settings* *Your Email Address:* *Incoming (POP )* *Outgoing (SMTP )* MemberID at ameritech.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at att.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at att.net (non Yahoo) fpostoffice.isp.att.net fmailhost.isp.att.net MemberID at bellsouth.net* mail.bellsouth.net mail.bellsouth.net MemberID at flash.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at nvbell.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at pacbell.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at prodigy.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at sbcglobal.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at snet.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at swbell.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com MemberID at wans.net pop.att.yahoo.com smtp.att.yahoo.com *Incoming mail server:* POP3 *Outgoing mail server:* Outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication *Incoming mail port #:* 995, secure connection (SSL) checked *Outgoing mail port #:* 465, secure connection (SSL) checked -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat Dec 6 15:44:28 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:44:28 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Instructions on how to upgrade here: > http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 > > Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is no > backing out. > > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual > New and improved features in KMail! > > However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The > Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to disable > akonadi altogether. > > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths is > worse than ever. > > If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. Installation > from source can fix this if you'r game :) > > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > > Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step > forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 > On the web page: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 it says not to report bugs.... OK. Just to let you all know that I found an annoying one: Try resizing the Panel (maybe it's an NVidia related bug) it causes 4 5th's of the screen to go black - with no apparent way to get the [plasma] desktop back again (without logging out and then back in again). Apart from that it really looks a lot better and has already fixed some rendering issues such as the icons on the Panel not displaying properly. There are also lots more plasmoids/widgets available - the 'Weather' one is really useful -- careful of the 'Bouncing Ball' widget, if you enable the 'Physics' option -- it bounces all over the place and it's real fun trying to 'catch' it to reconfigure it!! Blessings, Nigel -- From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Sat Dec 6 15:53:00 2008 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:53:00 -0800 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812060753.00638.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Friday 05 December 2008 02:20:49 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Instructions on how to upgrade here: > http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 > > Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is > no backing out. > > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. Actual > New and improved features in KMail! Quicky features in kmail immediately after installation. When I restarted the system nearly all of the quirckiness went away. Akregator still has random column widths--left over from 4.1.3. Can not seem to redefine. Screensaver does not produce a dialog box to enter a password in; however, it did let me back into the system when I typed the password without a displayed box. > > However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The > Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to disable > akonadi altogether. I deinstalled KDE 4.1 completely, then installed 4.2 by installing package KDE. Three packages had difficulties during install. Kalzium and kalgebra shared a file, kmail and oxygen shared a file, and kmouth and oxygen shared a file. Took me a little while to overcome this. I think meta packages kde, kdepim, and another meta package was held back. > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths > is worse than ever. > > If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. > Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) The widget for the Home directory on KDE 4.1.3 was nice...I was able to navigate to a directory of choice inside the widget, then I could open in Dolphin if I needed to. I can not duplicate this widget in 4.2 > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > > Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step > forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 +1 > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 15:26:46 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:26:46 +0200 Subject: ooo dialogs without fonts In-Reply-To: <200812050908.46467.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200812050908.46467.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812061726.47133.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Well, I have tried all kinds of font settings in KDE's settings (KDE 3.5 on Gutsy) and OO still shows blank forms. I guess I won't be drawing charts with OO in the future :( Perhaps I'll try KOffice. \d From jonas at chown.dk Sat Dec 6 16:25:24 2008 From: jonas at chown.dk (Jonas Pedersen) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:25:24 +0100 Subject: Automount on 8.10 In-Reply-To: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> David McGlone wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a > separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and click on > it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry for the > partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry like I have > always done in previous version. > > Thanks, You can add your own entry to fstab as you have done in previous versions. -- Jonas Pedersen - jonas - at - jope.eu / http://chown.dk Online picture gallery at http://pictureshow.dk From kjb.jones at embarqmail.com Sat Dec 6 16:45:31 2008 From: kjb.jones at embarqmail.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:45:31 -0600 Subject: re flickering screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812061045.31550.kjb.jones@embarqmail.com> dear all I am running KDE 4.1.3 KWin 3.0 I have an ATII driver (radeon 1300) My pc is dell inspiron xps 210 I have updated my system this morning. All videos play back with a flickering screen. I have searched the forums for an answer, but I am still confused. Does anyone know how to stop the flicker. It seems to affect all applications. If the solution requires me to open a terminal, could you be kind and give precise instructions. Thanks for your help. Kevin Jones From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 18:08:18 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:08:18 +0100 Subject: re flickering screen In-Reply-To: <200812061045.31550.kjb.jones@embarqmail.com> References: <200812061045.31550.kjb.jones@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/6 Kevin Jones : > dear all > I am running KDE 4.1.3 > KWin 3.0 > I have an ATII driver (radeon 1300) > My pc is dell inspiron xps 210 > > I have updated my system this morning. > All videos play back with a flickering screen. I have searched the forums > for an answer, but I am still confused. > Does anyone know how to stop the flicker. It seems to affect all > applications. > If the solution requires me to open a terminal, could you be kind and give > precise instructions. > > Thanks for your help. > > Kevin Jones > My first guess would be KDE 4 and desktopefects. They don't play well together (special not nvidia and ati) so first i would try disable the desktopefects in system settings and see if that helps? If that help look if this link can give any advice http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance / Jonas From atrypa at eskimo.com Sat Dec 6 19:50:02 2008 From: atrypa at eskimo.com (Wendell Cochran) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:50:02 -0800 Subject: Keep it short Message-ID: <200812061150.02585.atrypa@eskimo.com> > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:57:52 -0500 > From: Steven Vollom > . . . do you mean when a post gets a lot of response back and forth, > do you want me to erase the answered portions and only return > current active questions and answers, or do you mean reword what I say? Don't rewrite. Do keep readers in mind. Review paragraph by paragraph, & line by line. Sentence by sentence is likely too much work, but if a paragraph trails off -- well, it's easy to kill from the end. Do that. Omit intervening conventions like 'Hi Jim' & 'Best wishes'. Reduce repetition & useless detail. Retain essential information. Ask yourself: What does a new reader, entering in mid-thread, need to know? Will you force him to the archives? Will repetition bore the regulars? (That can be a grey area. Make your best guess & move on.) One post, one subject. Subject lines, too, should be short & exact. If discussion drifts off topic, invoke '(was: . . .)'. Bear in mind that economy of expression has always been important in Unix. Oh, Dennis Ritchie has said that he regretted reducing the name of one command to 'creat' -- but that was as much a reminder as a joke. Wendell Cochran West Seattle From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Dec 6 20:13:31 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:13:31 -0800 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <493ADCEB.3060403@dmiyu.org> Nigel Ridley wrote: > On the web page: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 it says not to report > bugs.... OK. Just to let you all know that I found an annoying one: Try > resizing the Panel (maybe it's an NVidia related bug) it causes 4 5th's of > the screen to go black - with no apparent way to get the [plasma] desktop > back again (without logging out and then back in again). Don't think it is nVidia related. I've got an nVidia in this machine and did not see that problem. Just upgraded and expanded the panel. On the other hand I am still getting graphical glitches on the panel. 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Done > flex is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > 32 not fully installed or removed. > After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. > Setting up m4 (1.4.11-1) ... > install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information. > dpkg: error processing m4 (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of flex: > flex depends on m4; however: > Package m4 is not configured yet. > No apport report written because the error message indicates its a > followup error from a previous failure. Maybe this bug report is helpful for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/305505 Christian -- * dregan kicks Yamucha in the nuts * dregan stamps on Yamucha's neck *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Yamucha Oh shit. http://www.bash.org/?2605 From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Dec 6 21:29:19 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:29:19 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812061629.19991.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 10:44 Nigel Ridley wrote: > Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > Instructions on how to upgrade here: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 > > > > Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is > > no backing out. > > > > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. > > Actual New and improved features in KMail! > > > > However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The > > Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to > > disable akonadi altogether. > > > > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths > > is worse than ever. > > > > If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. > > Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) > > > > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > > > > Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step > > forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 > > On the web page: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 it says not to report > bugs.... OK. Just to let you all know that I found an annoying one: Try > resizing the Panel (maybe it's an NVidia related bug) it causes 4 5th's of > the screen to go black - with no apparent way to get the [plasma] desktop > back again (without logging out and then back in again). > > Apart from that it really looks a lot better and has already fixed some > rendering issues such as the icons on the Panel not displaying properly. > There are also lots more plasmoids/widgets available - the 'Weather' one is > really useful -- careful of the 'Bouncing Ball' widget, if you enable the > 'Physics' option -- it bounces all over the place and it's real fun trying > to 'catch' it to reconfigure it!! > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- Is this a problem with multiple monitors or only a single monitor. If the former, then it may be related to a known bug in X with Intel graphic chips. Force X not to scan for a TV output. Paul From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 21:41:36 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:41:36 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493AF190.7040005@sbcglobal.net> > then there is > something wrong with the Kmail install. > I think you have the answer. There must be something wrong with the kmail install. Not know much about konsol work, I guess I thought some code could be typed in to correct any installation glitch. I have duplicated the working configuration of TBird. The same configuration has been suggested by many on the list. After I send this, I will uninstall kmail and reinstall again. Maybe it will function this time; I believe I already did this before coming for help, though. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 21:56:14 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:56:14 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> > then there is > something wrong with the Kmail install. > When I re-installed Kmail, all the settings were preconfigured. That doesn't seem like removal and reinstall. Additionally, I only have certain passwords that I use. Kwallet won't accept any of them. Is there a way to remove the password and reset it for kwallet? Is there a konsole instruction that will remove all traces of a former installation of Kmail? I am not confident it has been fully removed prior to re-installation; maybe that has something to do with my problem? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:02:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:02:27 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A8F34.4080204@swbell.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> <493A8F34.4080204@swbell.net> Message-ID: <493AF673.6050702@sbcglobal.net> Dear David, Thanks for the detailed configuration. They are identical to mine. I must have a problem with my distribution of Kmail. I have removed and reinstalled it twice. The configuration settings remain on reinstall, so it couldn't have been completely removed. Is there a terminal command that would purge all kmail data? Steven > > > From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 22:16:05 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:16:05 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Steven Vollom : > >> then there is >> something wrong with the Kmail install. >> > When I re-installed Kmail, all the settings were preconfigured. That > doesn't seem like removal and reinstall. Additionally, I only have > certain passwords that I use. Kwallet won't accept any of them. Is > there a way to remove the password and reset it for kwallet? > > Is there a konsole instruction that will remove all traces of a former > installation of Kmail? I am not confident it has been fully removed > prior to re-installation; maybe that has something to do with my problem? > > Steven Remove these: /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ /home/user/.kde/share/config/kmail* (there should be four of them) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:22:19 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:22:19 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <200812060732.37864.d.mcglone@att.net> <493A74A1.7050309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493AFB1B.1090105@sbcglobal.net> > > So I still think Steven should set up his gmail account in KMail for > sending and see if it works or not > > I have a gmail account. svollom at gmail.com. It works fine. I have a Thunderbird account. stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net. It works fine. I just want to change to kmail&gmail. In case you haven't read my other replys concerning the matter, I have removed and reinstalled kmail. When opening the re-installation, the configuration is already properly set, however I still cannot send an email. I am using the right configuration, security settings, and port settings too, but still cannot send. Any sent message goes to the Outbox; when I resend, it remains in the Outbox. There must be some kind of glitch in my computer that doesn't remove the problem when I un-install, since configuration remains intact when I reinstall. Is that possible? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:30:57 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:30:57 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493AFD21.4060903@sbcglobal.net> > > Remove these: > /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ > /home/user/.kde/share/config/kmail* (there should be four of them) > Do I just locate them and delete them, or is this a konsole process? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:36:06 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:36:06 -0500 Subject: Keep it short In-Reply-To: <200812061150.02585.atrypa@eskimo.com> References: <200812061150.02585.atrypa@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <493AFE56.1040602@sbcglobal.net> > Do keep readers in mind. > > > > Wendell Cochran > > Thanks Wendell. > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:39:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:39:56 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: References: <2164666.TQd8FhyYzW@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <493AFF3C.3070306@sbcglobal.net> Sundar Nagarajan wrote: > If you are on a 64-bit platform, you'll need openjdk, which has a 64-bit > Java applet plugin (note that a regular Java JVM / JRE is different from > a browser plugin). The following are the java-related packages that I > have installed for this purpose: > > > java-common > libaccess-bridge-java > openjdk-6-jre > openjdk-6-jre-headless > openjdk-6-jre-lib > tzdata-java > > To clarify, these will install 64 bit java? I have a new 64 bit computer soon to install. Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 22:40:19 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:40:19 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493AFD21.4060903@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> <493AFD21.4060903@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812061440r685a1a02ge5a1ebefe6d7a486@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/7 Steven Vollom : > >> >> Remove these: >> /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ >> /home/user/.kde/share/config/kmail* (there should be four of them) >> > Do I just locate them and delete them, or is this a konsole process? > Yes, you can delete them by any means that you prefer: in Konqueror, in Konsole, or even butterflies [1]. Linux was designed as a multi-user OS, so your program settings are stored in your home directory. Therefore, removing and reinstalling an application will not remove your settings. This is different from single-user operating systems (such as MS Windows) which make little or no distinction between system files and user files. It is this very reason that Linux is (in theory) more secure than Windows [2]. [1] http://xkcd.com/378/ [2] In reality there is no security difference in this regard for a single user machine, even on a multi-user OS, as a compromised user account is just as dangerous as a compromised system. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 22:43:02 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:43:02 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812051843u335a9f96uf74a7995538b957d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> <4939D48F.9090301@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051843u335a9f96uf74a7995538b957d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493AFFF6.8060103@sbcglobal.net> >> I am probably not using the term right but, when I click on the minus >> sign in the upper right corner and the page goes to (I have been calling >> it Taskbar, but it may be Tray Icon) it remains on, just not on the >> desktop. If I right-click on that item on the Taskbar and click Quit, >> don't I shut the program off? If that is the case, It was off when I >> typed in the instruction into the Konsole. >> >> When I right-click on the Kmail Icon on the taskbar I get configuration >> options not quit. I guess most people keep the bar I am talking about >> at the bottom of the screen. I don't Kmenu drops down from where I keep >> what I am calling a Taskbar. What do you call the bar I call Taskbar? >> >> > > > > >> If I erased too much, I am trying to learn how to trim. >> > > You trimmed perfectly! (you top posted, though :) ) > > Please identify that that is 'top posted', I still don't understand the term. From joelol75 at verizon.net Sat Dec 6 22:48:07 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:48:07 -0500 Subject: codecs In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00811260430x72cebbc2vc5083edf59bb0257@mail.gmail.com> References: <200811251438.35792.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <880dece00811250923l14882f22h416f1e7cf34e4999@mail.gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00811260430x72cebbc2vc5083edf59bb0257@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493B0127.8030604@verizon.net> Art Alexion wrote: > 2008/11/25 Dotan Cohen : > >> For the most part, all *nix programs know to look in standard places >> for shared libraries. An exception is VLC. >> > > Which is why sometimes VLC will play a file that kaffeine chokes on. > (and theoretically vice-versa, though I haven't actually found a file > that won't play in VLC, but does in Kaffeine, at least not since > Dapper) > > Yep, VLC has all its codecs built in, and they cannot be shared with other apps. The other two main codec backends are xine and gstreamer. You can search through synaptic or adept for these. Also the kubuntu-resticted-extras metapackage seems to add in the most common codecs. Makes it very easy. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 6 23:00:18 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:00:18 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812061440r685a1a02ge5a1ebefe6d7a486@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> <493AFD21.4060903@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061440r685a1a02ge5a1ebefe6d7a486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493B0402.70706@sbcglobal.net> >>> Remove these: >>> /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ >>> /home/user/.kde/share/config/kmail* (there should be four of them) >>> >>> >> Do I just locate them and delete them, or is this a konsole process? >> >> > > Yes, you can delete them by any means that you prefer: in Konqueror, > in Konsole, or even butterflies [1]. > > I only had 3 in the config folder: kmail.eventsrc, kmail.rc, and kmail.snippetrc. Is something already missing that shouldn't have been missing? in the '/home/user/.kde/share/config/kmail/' I didn't just remove the contents, I removed the folder '/kmail/'. Was that correct? Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 23:20:59 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:20:59 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo In-Reply-To: <493B0203.6020002@sbcglobal.net> References: <493A0D71.7050306@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812060500t548709a0j4c0da0fdeaadde93@mail.gmail.com> <493B0203.6020002@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812061520r1ff662ffj62cf6f8d961edae6@mail.gmail.com> Please keep replies on list. Thanks. 2008/12/7 Steven Vollom : >> I think that you might want to configure your machine to use only one >> desktop. > > I removed Compiz. I like it, but my current computer doesn't have enough > memory. It remained buggy for a couple of hours then settled down. 1) Compiz doesn't need memory, it needs _video_ memory. Is this what you mean? What video hardware do you have? > I removed KDE4 and returned to KDE3.5.9. I needed Disk&Filesystems working. What is Disk&Filesystems? > I still do not know how to mount and set partitions using the Konsole. > Does KDE4 have something similar to help people not yet confident with a > Terminal? > You don't need to use the terminal to mount partitions in either KDE 3 or 4. HAL should be doing that for you. HAL is not a part of KDE, it is added by the distro (in this case Kubuntu). It's been a long time since HAL has been known as problematic. What types of partitions are you mounting? Hard drives? USB memory sticks? > My new computer will be running fairly soon. There is a problem that is > being isolated so it still may be a short while, however it will be powerful > enough for Compiz. I am an artist by profession; compiz is suited for > people like me. Where can I see your work? > Is what I just asked top posting? http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 23:25:22 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:25:22 +0200 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) In-Reply-To: <493AFFF6.8060103@sbcglobal.net> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812060905.14881.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939B670.1010508@sbcglobal.net> <200812060930.26986.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4939BE52.7010108@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051632q6b63aedt494ab7819110f79e@mail.gmail.com> <4939D48F.9090301@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812051843u335a9f96uf74a7995538b957d@mail.gmail.com> <493AFFF6.8060103@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812061525j67b293e6w8270439d297a95ec@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/7 Steven Vollom : > Please identify that that is 'top posted', I still don't understand the > term. > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html Steven, don't worry about it. You usually don't top post, I was just being pedantic because I know that you are interested in learning. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 00:33:22 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:33:22 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo **RESOLVED** Message-ID: <493B19D2.8070204@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to all. There were 4 folders that I removed that corrected the problem. kmail.eventsrc, kmail.rc, and kmail.snippetrc, + one more, kmail. I then reinstalled. This time I had to re-configure the settings, because they were no longer in my computer, and they worked just fine. Horray! Steven From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Dec 7 00:41:05 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:41:05 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <200812061629.19991.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <493A9DDC.7030209@prayingforisrael.net> <200812061629.19991.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <493B1BA1.2000708@tiscali.co.uk> Paul Kaplan wrote: > On Saturday 06 December 2008 10:44 Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> >>> Instructions on how to upgrade here: >>> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 >>> >>> Warning! unlike neon this will update your current KDE install - there is >>> no backing out. >>> >>> Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. >>> Actual New and improved features in KMail! >>> >>> However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. The >>> Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had to >>> disable akonadi altogether. >>> >>> The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random widths >>> is worse than ever. >>> >>> If you have custom plasma applets they will probably be broken. >>> Installation from source can fix this if you'r game :) >>> >>> Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! >>> >>> Heaps of UI tweaks which I quite like on the whole. Definitely a big step >>> forward, like from 4.0 to 4.1 >>> >> On the web page: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 it says not to report >> bugs.... OK. Just to let you all know that I found an annoying one: Try >> resizing the Panel (maybe it's an NVidia related bug) it causes 4 5th's of >> the screen to go black - with no apparent way to get the [plasma] desktop >> back again (without logging out and then back in again). >> >> Apart from that it really looks a lot better and has already fixed some >> rendering issues such as the icons on the Panel not displaying properly. >> There are also lots more plasmoids/widgets available - the 'Weather' one is >> really useful -- careful of the 'Bouncing Ball' widget, if you enable the >> 'Physics' option -- it bounces all over the place and it's real fun trying >> to 'catch' it to reconfigure it!! >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> > Is this a problem with multiple monitors or only a single monitor. If the > former, then it may be related to a known bug in X with Intel graphic chips. > Force X not to scan for a TV output. > Paul > > I have a single monitor and the blanking of all but a small strip at the top happens to me, too... Also, I've just noticed as I write this that the panel clock and system monitor -CPU are corrupted... :@( -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From rlp1938 at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 01:35:46 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:35:46 +0700 Subject: using -graft-points with genisoimage In-Reply-To: <493aa3a5.vXdDhgcJz+lvUDyi%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <493aa3a5.vXdDhgcJz+lvUDyi%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812061735r1445feb1necde183f17d62baf@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Be careful, genisoimage is a very old version of mkisofs. > Genisoimage is unmaintained and some people even introduced bugs that > never have been in the original software. > > Using graft points with genisoimage in your case let's you explore a bug > that appears with the combination of deep directory nesting and graft points. > In addition, the permissions of intermediate directories are not correct. > > Better use the original makisofs. It is carefully maintained and does not > have known bugs. > > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ Thanks for the tip, it's a reminder actually. I used Debian Woody happily for a few years some time ago now. But I did compile cdrecord etc from source. And yes I did use smake iirc. Just never had any problems with cd burning at all. Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 02:55:45 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:55:45 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <493AFF3C.3070306@sbcglobal.net> References: <493AFF3C.3070306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812062155.45274.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 5:39:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > Sundar Nagarajan wrote: > > If you are on a 64-bit platform, you'll need openjdk, which has a 64-bit > > Java applet plugin (note that a regular Java JVM / JRE is different from > > a browser plugin). The following are the java-related packages that I > > have installed for this purpose: > > > > > > java-common > > libaccess-bridge-java > > openjdk-6-jre > > openjdk-6-jre-headless > > openjdk-6-jre-lib > > tzdata-java > > To clarify, these will install 64 bit java? I have a new 64 bit > computer soon to install. There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my 64 bit computers. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 02:56:55 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:56:55 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <493B19D2.8070204@sbcglobal.net> References: <493B19D2.8070204@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812062156.55779.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 7:33:22 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > Thanks to all. There were 4 folders that I removed that corrected the > problem. kmail.eventsrc, kmail.rc, and kmail.snippetrc, + one more, > kmail. I then reinstalled. This time I had to re-configure the > settings, because they were no longer in my computer, and they worked > just fine. Horray! Congratulations! :-) -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 02:59:15 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 21:59:15 -0500 Subject: Automount on 8.10 In-Reply-To: <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> References: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> Message-ID: <200812062159.15681.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:25:24 am Jonas Pedersen wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a > > separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and > > click on it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry > > for the partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry > > like I have always done in previous version. > > > > Thanks, > > You can add your own entry to fstab as you have done in previous versions. Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was allowed anymore, since the behavior changed in such a way that I was asking myself why would the developers do this. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 03:13:04 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:13:04 +0200 Subject: Kopete KDE 4.2 and MSN Message-ID: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> i've read a lot about why kopete in kde 4.2 lacks msn support, there's this wlm plugin, and the libmsn plugin, and some site even mentioned that imported the plugin to trunk. and then? how can i have msn support in kopete? is there anything i can do other than wait for it to be packaged? compile it from somewhere? i did compile and install libmsn, but msn protocol didn't just pop up in kopete :P -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Congratulations Steven -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 07:50:18 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:50:18 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812062155.45274.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <493AFF3C.3070306@sbcglobal.net> <200812062155.45274.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> > There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my 64 bit > computers. > > My processor is an AMD quad core, so it plays both 64 and 32 bit. I am not familiar with the process. Do you think that will allow me to run Flash as well as the 64 bit applications? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 07:53:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:53:27 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <200812062156.55779.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <493B19D2.8070204@sbcglobal.net> <200812062156.55779.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <493B80F7.1010800@sbcglobal.net> > > Congratulations! :-) > I got the help from one of you. I have not checked back to see who, but I am the fortunate receipient of the good fortune, not the genius that gave the advice. I apologize for the short memory, I will look the person up though. In any event thanks to all who tried to help. You are greatly appreciated. I am a happy camper. I like Kmail. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 07:56:12 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:56:12 -0500 Subject: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines) **RESOLVED** In-Reply-To: <880dece00812061440r685a1a02ge5a1ebefe6d7a486@mail.gmail.com> References: <4938d6a4.1c75.b6dc8b90.2705d240@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <4938F30A.5040905@gmail.com> <49393FD6.4020808@sbcglobal.net> <200812051704.23657.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <493A27FA.3060405@gmail.com> <493AF4FE.6010705@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061416g35c9027bh23d7d701a050b932@mail.gmail.com> <493AFD21.4060903@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812061440r685a1a02ge5a1ebefe6d7a486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493B819C.8030106@sbcglobal.net> I believe Dotan Cohen is responsible for the resolution. Thanks! Dotan. > > From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 08:18:40 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:18:40 +0100 Subject: QuickQuote on TB works great In-Reply-To: <493A8A8F.9050600@swbell.net> References: <493A8A8F.9050600@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812070918.41148.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Saturday 06 December 2008 15:22:07 Billie Walsh wrote: > I can't believe that so many haven't used QuickQuote. I've been using it > for years. It must have been the best kept non-secret ever. Yeah, me too! But then again Kmail does it and it's built in. Of course, that doesn't mean I don't like Thunderbird. It just seems to me that kmail does it smarter. ;-) -- lanzen From girardhenri at free.fr Sun Dec 7 09:29:41 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:29:41 +0100 Subject: Kopete KDE 4.2 and MSN In-Reply-To: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> References: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1228642181.8597.1.camel@tai> very strange i did compile it and got it working (in fact that the only way i could get it working ) but you have'nt as choice msn but wlm ? did you notice it ? regards Henri Le dimanche 07 décembre 2008 à 05:13 +0200, Willy K. Hamra a écrit : > i've read a lot about why kopete in kde 4.2 lacks msn support, there's > this wlm plugin, and the libmsn plugin, and some site even mentioned > that imported the plugin to trunk. and then? how can i have msn support > in kopete? is there anything i can do other than wait for it to be > packaged? compile it from somewhere? i did compile and install libmsn, > but msn protocol didn't just pop up in kopete :P > From jonas at chown.dk Sun Dec 7 09:34:01 2008 From: jonas at chown.dk (Jonas Pedersen) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:34:01 +0100 Subject: Kopete KDE 4.2 and MSN In-Reply-To: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> References: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493B9889.4000708@chown.dk> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > i've read a lot about why kopete in kde 4.2 lacks msn support, there's > this wlm plugin, and the libmsn plugin, and some site even mentioned > that imported the plugin to trunk. and then? how can i have msn support > in kopete? is there anything i can do other than wait for it to be > packaged? compile it from somewhere? i did compile and install libmsn, > but msn protocol didn't just pop up in kopete :P > I think you have to recompile kopete as well to get MSN support as it have to be linked against your newly installed libmsn library. There is a bug about this in launchpad. You can find the bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/project-neon/+bug/301333. -- Jonas Pedersen - jonas - at - jope.eu / http://chown.dk Online picture gallery at http://pictureshow.dk From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 11:31:20 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 06:31:20 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812062155.45274.d.mcglone@att.net> <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 07 December 2008 2:50:18 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my 64 > > bit computers. > > My processor is an AMD quad core, so it plays both 64 and 32 bit. I am > not familiar with the process. Do you think that will allow me to run > Flash as well as the 64 bit applications? Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth the hassle. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sun Dec 7 11:48:17 2008 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:48:17 +0000 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812071148.17402.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Sunday 07 December 2008 11:31:20 David McGlone wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 2:50:18 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > > There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my > > > 64 bit computers. > > > > My processor is an AMD quad core, so it plays both 64 and 32 bit. I am > > not familiar with the process. Do you think that will allow me to run > > Flash as well as the 64 bit applications? > > Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. > > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some > extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth > the hassle. Actually, Adobe have an Alpha version of Flash for 64bit Linux here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and there is an installation guide for Ubuntu here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 12:08:39 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:08:39 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812062155.45274.d.mcglone@att.net> <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/7 David McGlone : > On Sunday 07 December 2008 2:50:18 am Steven Vollom wrote: >> > There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my 64 >> > bit computers. >> >> My processor is an AMD quad core, so it plays both 64 and 32 bit. I am >> not familiar with the process. Do you think that will allow me to run >> Flash as well as the 64 bit applications? > > Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 bit > browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. > > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some extra > computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth the hassle. > Thats not really true you can have a 64 bit firefox/Konqueror browser working with flash and java. It's true that there is no 64 bit flash but as of Hardy it has worked out of the box on my Kubuntu. There is a package nspluginwrapper that is a wrapper around i386 plugins and it is dependency when if you installing flashplugin-nonfree. For the last two Kubuntu versions flash and java has worked OK for me on my 64 bit processor. Steven: I say go for 64bit you would probably don't have any problems related to that and if you have 4 Gb or more memory you need 64 bit to be able to use all of it. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 12:18:06 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:18:06 +0100 Subject: Automount on 8.10 In-Reply-To: <200812062159.15681.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> <200812062159.15681.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/7 David McGlone : > On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:25:24 am Jonas Pedersen wrote: >> David McGlone wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a >> > separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and >> > click on it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry >> > for the partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry >> > like I have always done in previous version. >> > >> > Thanks, >> >> You can add your own entry to fstab as you have done in previous versions. > > Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was allowed anymore, since the behavior changed in > such a way that I was asking myself why would the developers do this. > For disks that you always have connected and want to have mounted thats still the preferred way. For removable media let HAL do the mounting. / Jonas From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 12:56:22 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 07:56:22 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: References: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812070756.22976.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 07 December 2008 7:08:39 am Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/7 David McGlone : > > On Sunday 07 December 2008 2:50:18 am Steven Vollom wrote: > >> > There is no Flash for 64 bit though, thats why I run 32 bit on both my > >> > 64 bit computers. > >> > >> My processor is an AMD quad core, so it plays both 64 and 32 bit. I am > >> not familiar with the process. Do you think that will allow me to run > >> Flash as well as the 64 bit applications? > > > > Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 > > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > > > > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. > > > > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some > > extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth > > the hassle. > > Thats not really true you can have a 64 bit firefox/Konqueror browser > working with flash and java. It's true that there is no 64 bit flash > but as of Hardy it has worked out of the box on my Kubuntu. There is a > package nspluginwrapper that is a wrapper around i386 plugins and it > is dependency when if you installing flashplugin-nonfree. > > For the last two Kubuntu versions flash and java has worked OK for me > on my 64 bit processor. > > Steven: I say go for 64bit you would probably don't have any problems > related to that and if you have 4 Gb or more memory you need 64 bit to > be able to use all of it. I stand corrected :-) -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 13:42:43 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:42:43 -0500 Subject: Automount on 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> <200812062159.15681.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812070542h49d2bdfas702ab7921a74be39@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/7 David McGlone : >> On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:25:24 am Jonas Pedersen wrote: >>> David McGlone wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a >>> > separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and >>> > click on it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry >>> > for the partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry >>> > like I have always done in previous version. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> >>> You can add your own entry to fstab as you have done in previous versions. >> >> Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was allowed anymore, since the behavior changed in >> such a way that I was asking myself why would the developers do this. >> > > For disks that you always have connected and want to have mounted > thats still the preferred way. For removable media let HAL do the > mounting. I recently shuffled a bunch of disk around and replaced one. It made me appreciate using UUID instead of device names in fstab. The device name changed based on where I moved the disk, but the UUID remained the same so the mounting continued to work. I only needed to remove the entry for the drive I removed, and one for the new drive. I recommend using UUID when you add the entry to your fstab. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun Dec 7 13:59:31 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:59:31 +0000 Subject: kubuntu 8.10 amd 64b In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <493BD6C3.5060803@btinternet.com> > > Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 > > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > > > > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. > > > > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some > > extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth > > the hassle. > Actually, Adobe have an Alpha version of Flash for 64bit Linux here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html I have a 64 bit amd processor, so I downloaded the kubuntu 8.10 64bit iso, md5sum checked it, burned a CD and installed it, the only trouble I had with it was getting the nvidia..... 177 package to run, it kept getting so far thru' the boot sequence and then giving me the blank screen. I fixed that with a new nvidia.conf. Now, of course, my screen goes blank if I click on K>system settings>display, so I keep the cursor well away from that icon, don't even dare to try and delete it. I play on-line bridge which needs a flash player so one of the 1st things I did was install flashplayer10. Apart from the Adept/Synaptic area, I find this kubuntu far easier to use than Mandriva - and as for Vista, well I rarely even turn the Vista laptop on these days, it's too slow and I never know what it's doing behind my back. So three cheers for kubuntu. brian From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 14:46:23 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:46:23 -0500 Subject: Partition mounting problem. Message-ID: <200812070946.23785.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> My sdb5 partition is probably improperly mounted. Each time I boot up, I have to go to Disk&File Systems in Hardy KDE3.5.10 to enable it, then I only have use of a folder in the partition. Prior to mount, it shows a permissions problem. When I can use the folder but try to put data in the partition without also putting it in the folder, 'Access Denied. Could not write to sdb5'. I have saved lots of data in a file in that partition, but nothing about this partition is normal. The ability to have the functioning folder was a help I got from this List, several days ago. The partition works, but poorly. TIA Steven From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 14:56:39 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:56:39 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 8.10 amd 64b In-Reply-To: <493BD6C3.5060803@btinternet.com> References: <493BD6C3.5060803@btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> >> Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 >> > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. >> > >> > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large >> > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. >> > >> > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some >> > extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth >> > the hassle. I am sorry but this is total, no, well anyway, it is false. Just install the 32 bit browser on your 64 bit system with apt-get or whatever you normally use. No problems at all, no big deal! I have both FF installed on a 64 bit Kubuntu and the 64 bit is a bit snappier but no big deal. FF does nothing that needs a super CPU or huge amounts of memory so in this way he is correct that 64 bit is overkill but don't let that stop you from wasting your 64 bit cpu! Here is a web page with all the ins and outs of all the possible ways of doing it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 14:59:46 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:59:46 +0200 Subject: Kopete KDE 4.2 and MSN In-Reply-To: <493B9889.4000708@chown.dk> References: <493B3F40.1090004@gmail.com> <493B9889.4000708@chown.dk> Message-ID: <15edeae40812070659jb706da1o42d7d9697ccd6080@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/7 Jonas Pedersen : > Willy K. Hamra wrote: >> i've read a lot about why kopete in kde 4.2 lacks msn support, there's >> this wlm plugin, and the libmsn plugin, and some site even mentioned >> that imported the plugin to trunk. and then? how can i have msn support >> in kopete? is there anything i can do other than wait for it to be >> packaged? compile it from somewhere? i did compile and install libmsn, >> but msn protocol didn't just pop up in kopete :P >> > > I think you have to recompile kopete as well to get MSN support as it > have to be linked against your newly installed libmsn library. > > There is a bug about this in launchpad. You can find the bug at > https://bugs.launchpad.net/project-neon/+bug/301333. > > what if i installed kopete from a deb package? i added the kubuntu-experimental repo, and did an aptitude full-upgrade. i got libmsn from source forge, and installed it. i'm not on my kubuntu box right now, but that is enough to get msn support? will kopete automagically find the library and use it? thanks in advance -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 15:12:00 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:12:00 -0500 Subject: Cannot use Compiz Message-ID: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Prelude to my post. (I removed Compiz due to what I thought were memory problems and crashes. I need this computer functioning for a few more days. If the problem I was having can be cured, I will fix it, but I can't take a chance on crashing and burning for a few days with this computer.) It was suggest that I make this post, which is a little over my head yet. In the Konsole, I typed 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and what is below came on the terminal: # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Device "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" EndSection steven at Studio25:~$ Generally it doesn't look like I got a desired result, I was asked to provide the contents of the above file; this looks like some kind of instruction rather than data. I need the doctor? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 15:17:37 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:17:37 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <493B803A.2030500@sbcglobal.net> <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812071017.37905.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. I am taking my fine art skills to computer rendered art. Because of the numbers, it was suggested I go to 64bit. It is all new to me, so I am just following advice. Thanks! Steven From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 15:18:35 2008 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:48:35 +0530 Subject: Strange dependency problem: m4 In-Reply-To: <20081206212123.GA27131@jazz.cocis.de> References: <78323d480812051432t4e2934f8n952663ff8fb61e93@mail.gmail.com> <20081206212123.GA27131@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: <78323d480812070718yce3e79fi995bb7c69f14ba80@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Christian Schult wrote: > > Maybe this bug report is helpful for you? > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/305505 Yes, I had installed most of Texlive 2008 (including texinfo) with symlinks in standard directories. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 15:27:13 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:27:13 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: References: <200812070631.20282.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812071027.13306.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Steven: I say go for 64bit you would probably don't have any problems > related to that and if you have 4 Gb or more memory you need 64 bit to > be able to use all of it. > > / Jonas My memory is slower, DDR2 SDRAM ECC Axiom, however I have 8gb. Additionally, I anticipate as 64bit becomes more popular and a bigger share of the market, difficulties will work themselves out, and I will already have some experience that may be useful to others. Thanks, Jonas. Steven From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun Dec 7 15:29:06 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:29:06 +0000 Subject: 64 bit flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <493BEBC2.7090809@btinternet.com> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> >> >> >> Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of 32 >> >>> >> > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. >>> >> > >>> >> > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large >>> >> > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. >>> >> > >>> >> > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain some >>> >> > extra computations the average user will probably never use, isn't worth >>> >> > the hassle. >>> I did not, not, not write any of the above, something has gone wrong here. brian From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 7 14:48:43 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:48:43 -0400 Subject: googleearth References: <49399B1B.5090305@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <40978771.B9emqEbv4e@cedar.serverforest.com> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Thanks Miron,Kassube > > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME > > in a terminal. I think that will fix it. > > I had already done the above to no effect, but I did it again anyway > still no good. > > rm -Rf .config/Google > > The above did the trick, the chown -R.... left the Google dir still > owned by root:root mutter, mutter. LOL. Of course it did. _Normally_, $USER expands to your own user ID - but you can't use that under "sudo", because then your ID is "root" :-) -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 7 15:32:54 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:32:54 -0500 Subject: Kwallet, can't open? Message-ID: <200812071032.55068.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I have been problems which involved passwords. While solving those problems, I created a new problem. I can't add to my passwords; I can't get into Kwallet. I finally got kmail to work. Each time I send an email, I get a request for a password. Immeciately kwallet comes on and makes a request to add the mail password. If I click yes, I get a password from kwallet; when I enter any of my many passwords, It doesn't accept them. I have tried all passwords that I can remember, none work. Is there a way to resolve this problem. I don't mind losing kwallet and having to reinstall my password protected entries, but is there is an easier way, that would save a lot of work. TIA Steven From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 16:00:42 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:00:42 -0500 Subject: 64 bit flash In-Reply-To: <493BEBC2.7090809@btinternet.com> References: <493BEBC2.7090809@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812071100.42667.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 07 December 2008 10:29:06 am Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Brian Norman Wootton > > wrote: > >> >> Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use > >> >> of 32 > >> >> > >>> >> > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and > >>> >> > large calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the > >>> >> > 64 bit. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain > >>> >> > some extra computations the average user will probably never use, > >>> >> > isn't worth the hassle. > > I did not, not, not write any of the above, something has gone wrong here. > brian Call the reply police!! Brian's puter seems to be replying to e-mail's posing as him. Chill dude :-) It was me that had written that. Somebody cut somewhere, and you replied. No biggie. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 7 15:56:46 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:56:46 -0400 Subject: KMail (KDE 4.2) Alternating Colours in msg list References: <200812061242.48317.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1553486.lbPWl3jMIu@cedar.serverforest.com> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Anyone know how to turn off the alternating colours/shades in the > message and folder lists? I find it really annoying. How odd. Knode has done that for some time, and I've never really noticed it. I look forward to having it in KMail (actually, I look forward to using common interface elements for KNode and KMail, but I think I might be waiting a really long time). -- derek From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 7 16:10:06 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:10:06 +0100 Subject: googleearth In-Reply-To: <40978771.B9emqEbv4e@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <49399B1B.5090305@btinternet.com> <40978771.B9emqEbv4e@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812071710.06039.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME > > > > I had already done the above to no effect, but I did it again anyway > > still no good. > > > > rm -Rf .config/Google > > > > The above did the trick, the chown -R.... left the Google dir still > > owned by root:root mutter, mutter. > > LOL. Of course it did. _Normally_, $USER expands to your own user ID > - but you can't use that under "sudo", because then your ID is "root" IMHO "under sudo" is ambiguous. Just to clarify: The command doesn't work if you are root already. But if you are the user the shell replaces the "$USER" part with the user name before the sudo command is executed and it should work as intended. Nils From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Dec 7 16:12:14 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:12:14 -0500 Subject: Kwallet, can't open? In-Reply-To: <200812071032.55068.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071032.55068.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812071112.14127.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 07 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: >I have been problems which involved passwords. While solving those > problems, I created a new problem. I can't add to my passwords; I can't > get into Kwallet. > >I finally got kmail to work. Each time I send an email, I get a request for > a password. Immeciately kwallet comes on and makes a request to add the > mail password. If I click yes, I get a password from kwallet; when I enter > any of my many passwords, It doesn't accept them. I have tried all > passwords that I can remember, none work. > >Is there a way to resolve this problem. I don't mind losing kwallet and >having to reinstall my password protected entries, but is there is an easier >way, that would save a lot of work. TIA > Steven: Kwallet should, unless the install is broken, only ask you for your personal pw once per x session. Or at least that is how it works here, but I only use kmail for processing and sending replies as I long ago set up the combination of fetchmail and procmail (which uses spamassassin to rate the mail) to do all the pulling via pop3 protocol (actually from 3 accounts), and place the mail that survives the filtering into a local inbox that kmail reads and sorts. The was done to combat the fact that kmail, when doing its own mail sucking, goes away and leaves the reply composer hanging for extended periods of time and you are then typing 'blind'. This way its only a few milliseconds occasionally as kmail sorts and filters to the correct folder at 2 minute intervals, whatever fetchmail pulls in, and hands off to procmail as its dedicated Mail Transfer Agent (MTA). This works quite well, but does take a bit of effort to configure. When you have another years experience with linux, this might be something you will want to do, but for now kmail can do all that too, but it isn't as well threaded as it could be, so you see/feel more of those lags while its doing those jobs in the background. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Gomme's Laws: (1) A backscratcher will always find new itches. (2) Time accelerates. (3) The weather at home improves as soon as you go away. From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 7 16:50:01 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:50:01 -0500 Subject: kubuntu 8.10 amd 64b In-Reply-To: References: <493BD6C3.5060803@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812071150.01211.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 07 December 2008 9:56:39 am Knapp wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Brian Norman Wootton > > wrote: > >> Setting up flash on a 64 bit system is tedious and requires the use of > >> 32 > >> > >> > bit browsers which in turn is also a tedious process. > >> > > >> > Also unless you will be working with really large numbers and large > >> > calculations you probably will not see any benefit with the 64 bit. > >> > > >> > IMHO, the process involved to get 64 bit running smoothing to gain > >> > some extra computations the average user will probably never use, > >> > isn't worth the hassle. > > I am sorry but this is total, no, well anyway, it is false. > Just install the 32 bit browser on your 64 bit system with apt-get or > whatever you normally use. No problems at all, no big deal! I have > both FF installed on a 64 bit Kubuntu and the 64 bit is a bit snappier > but no big deal. > Here is a web page with all the ins and outs of all the possible ways > of doing it. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 Not exactly false. About 3 years ago, installing flash on a 64 bit system was tedious. You had to install 32 bit firefox, konqueror and use nsplugins which crashed almost everytime. So what was the point in even installing 64 bit, if for 1, you had to go back to 32 bit apps, 2 wasting space having 2 or 4 browsers installed (if you didn't remove one of each Konq and Moz), 3 remembering which browser to use that works with flash, and 4 configuring everything to work properly was a pain in the Arse! What your forgetting is Steven is really new to linux. I can already see this scenario where he will install 32 bit mozilla alongside 64 bit (since he's a newbie I don't likely see him removing the 64 bit version) and set up flash, open mozilla (which by the way the system still opens the 64 bit) and he'll be scratching his head wondering why flash isn't working, not realizing he needs to run the 32 bit mozilla for flash to work. Then he'll either realize to remove the 64 bit or change the system to call the 32 bit. Here's what 64 bit looked like back then: 1. install 32 bit browsers 2. install nsplugins viewer 3. either remove the 64 bit or keep them (if you didn't you had to configure system to call the 32 bit) (2 or 4 browsers installed IMHO a space waster) 4. install flash Tell me this isn't tedious. Or install flash on a 32 bit system Open browser and play. Which would you prefer? But this was about 3 or 4 years ago, Mark Fraser pointed out that there is a flash player for 64 bit in the works now, and Jonas Norlander pointed out that dependencies are taken care of these days, so I was speaking from experience from a few years back. So take your "Total BS" and go play in it. ;-) (just kidding) -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 7 16:59:37 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:59:37 -0400 Subject: googleearth References: <49399B1B.5090305@btinternet.com> <40978771.B9emqEbv4e@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812071710.06039.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <6704251.agmcMQE5hm@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME >> > >> > I had already done the above to no effect, but I did it again >> > anyway still no good. >> > >> > rm -Rf .config/Google >> > >> > The above did the trick, the chown -R.... left the Google dir still >> > owned by root:root mutter, mutter. >> >> LOL. Of course it did. _Normally_, $USER expands to your own user >> ID - but you can't use that under "sudo", because then your ID is >> "root" > > IMHO "under sudo" is ambiguous. Just to clarify: The command doesn't > work if you are root already. But if you are the user the shell > replaces the "$USER" part with the user name before the sudo command > is executed and it should work as intended. Oops. My mistake - of course you're right (and this time I checked it). Which leads one to wonder what Brian actually did. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 7 16:52:54 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:52:54 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18642892.6tAXeyNylT@cedar.serverforest.com> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Having said that I *really* like it, KDE 4.2 is going to be awesome. > Actual New and improved features in KMail! About time. Bug fixes would be nice, too. > > However it is quirky, I had a lot of problems getting kmail running. > The Akonadi server was broken to start off with and eventually I had > to disable akonadi altogether. I rather thought that it was useless without akonadi? > The problem with columns loosing their settings and getting random > widths is worse than ever. ugh. > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! Where would you use that? I sure don't want to see Konqueror displaying all the spelling errors in _other_ people's web pages, and various kparts already do spellchecking inside Konqeror. -- derek From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Dec 7 17:56:52 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:56:52 -0500 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid In-Reply-To: <18642892.6tAXeyNylT@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <18642892.6tAXeyNylT@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812071256.53257.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 07 December 2008 11:52:54 am Derek Broughton wrote: > > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! > > Where would you use that? I sure don't want to see Konqueror displaying > all the spelling errors in _other_ people's web pages, and various > kparts already do spellchecking inside Konqeror. > -- > derek That is for forms and the like, such as forum posts. There was no right-click option for spelling suggestions in those before, though they misspellings were highlighted. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 7 20:36:10 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:36:10 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.2 Beta 1 availble for Intrepid References: <200812060820.50109.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <18642892.6tAXeyNylT@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812071256.53257.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1535410.tigE25npGM@cedar.serverforest.com> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 11:52:54 am Derek Broughton wrote: >> > Right click spelling suggestions inline with Konqueror! >> >> Where would you use that? I sure don't want to see Konqueror >> displaying all the spelling errors in _other_ people's web pages, and >> various kparts already do spellchecking inside Konqeror. > > That is for forms and the like, such as forum posts. There was no > right-click option for spelling suggestions in those before, though > they misspellings were highlighted. Ah-hah. I see. That would be handy (I've never quite understood why it didn't work that way). -- derek From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sun Dec 7 21:16:13 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:16:13 -0500 Subject: 3D desktop re:Panda 3D thread from last October Message-ID: <493C3D1D.3020006@ajinfosearch.com> I remember that Derick and Knapp were talking about making a 3D desktop using Panda 3D (I think a Neuromancer theme would be perfect! Sweet cyber-punk!). I don't know if there is anything going on with this, but if there is, I think I found something to look into. I was looking at planet KDE and ran across this from Qt. It shows a bunch of working widgets on the walls of a Wolfenstein maze. It looks just like the type of thing that you guys were talking about. Don't know if it can help, but it's pretty cool anyway. Alan link from above in text: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/12/02/widgets-enter-the-third-dimension-wolfenqt/ -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." - author unknown Things I grok: 0 From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 21:41:23 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:41:23 +0100 Subject: 3D desktop re:Panda 3D thread from last October In-Reply-To: <493C3D1D.3020006@ajinfosearch.com> References: <493C3D1D.3020006@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: > > from Qt. It shows a bunch of working widgets on the walls of a > Wolfenstein maze. It looks just like the type of thing that you guys > were talking about. Don't know if it can help, but it's pretty cool anyway. > > Alan > > link from above in text: > http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/12/02/widgets-enter-the-third-dimension-wolfenqt/ I will take a look. Basically no one seemed to want to lead the project and I never found an easy way to pull off the integration of X and Panda3d, mostly because I know nothing about how X works at a basic level. I have looked at qt. It looks like a very useful lib! Writing a whole desktop in 3d would be easy but getting say FF to run on a surface of a cube in panda3d was where I got lost. -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sun Dec 7 21:47:03 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:47:03 -0500 Subject: 3D desktop re:Panda 3D thread from last October In-Reply-To: References: <493C3D1D.3020006@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <493C4457.1070303@ajinfosearch.com> Knapp wrote: >> >> from Qt. It shows a bunch of working widgets on the walls of a >> Wolfenstein maze. It looks just like the type of thing that you guys >> were talking about. Don't know if it can help, but it's pretty cool anyway. >> >> Alan >> >> link from above in text: >> http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/12/02/widgets-enter-the-third-dimension-wolfenqt/ > > I will take a look. Basically no one seemed to want to lead the > project and I never found an easy way to pull off the integration of X > and Panda3d, mostly because I know nothing about how X works at a > basic level. I have looked at qt. It looks like a very useful lib! > > Writing a whole desktop in 3d would be easy but getting say FF to run > on a surface of a cube in panda3d was where I got lost. > A browser is one of those widgets running. -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." - author unknown Things I grok: 0 From dave at thefletchers.net Sun Dec 7 22:09:23 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:09:23 +0000 Subject: Internal laptop WiFi cards In-Reply-To: <200811300021.25755.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <200811281525.08866.dave@thefletchers.net> <200811292222.54951.kassube@gmx.net> <200811300021.25755.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200812072209.30364.dave@thefletchers.net> I fitted the Samsung card today, took out some screws to loosen the case, and managed to get a little more antenna wire pulled out. Connected the wires, switched on and it "Just Works". So, I can now say that if anybody needs one, the Samsung SWL-2700M laptop WiFi card works with Kubuntu Hardy. They're available through ebay but all second hand I think. Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 8 07:07:18 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 02:07:18 -0500 Subject: kubuntu 8.10 amd 64b In-Reply-To: <200812071150.01211.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812071150.01211.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812080207.18880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> David, When I purchased my processor, I looked into its capabilities. It suggested that I could run 64 bit programs and 32 bit programs without a problem. I took that to mean that I could take advantage of all the 64 bit applications that could be useful, and when the only available package was 32 bit, it would work as well. Did I misunderstand. Cordially, Steven From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 08:10:08 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:10:08 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 8.10 amd 64b In-Reply-To: <200812080207.18880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071150.01211.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812080207.18880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Steven Vollom wrote: > David, > > When I purchased my processor, I looked into its capabilities. It suggested > that I could run 64 bit programs and 32 bit programs without a problem. I > took that to mean that I could take advantage of all the 64 bit applications > that could be useful, and when the only available package was 32 bit, it > would work as well. Did I misunderstand. > > Cordially, > > Steven No! -- Douglas E Knapp http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 8 08:12:12 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:12:12 +0100 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On 12/07/2008 Steven Vollom wrote: [...Steven's xorg.conf....] > > Generally it doesn't look like I got a desired result, I was asked to > provide > the contents of the above file; this looks like some kind of > instruction > rather than data. I need the doctor? Hi Steven, this looks absolutely ok at first sight, at least to me. What exactly is it, that you would like to achieve with your xorg.conf? -use compiz? -do not use compiz? -something else? Kind regards and keep up your good work Eberhard From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Dec 8 09:43:35 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:43:35 +0000 Subject: googleearth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <493CEC47.2070803@btinternet.com> > >> >> LOL. Of course it did. _Normally_, $USER expands to your own user >> >> ID - but you can't use that under "sudo", because then your ID is >> >> "root" >> > > > > IMHO "under sudo" is ambiguous. Just to clarify: The command doesn't > > work if you are root already. But if you are the user the shell > > replaces the "$USER" part with the user name before the sudo command > > is executed and it should work as intended. > Oops. My mistake - of course you're right (and this time I checked it). Which leads one to wonder what Brian actually did. cd ~brian sudo chown -R brian:brian ./* It's quite possible I've forgotten something here. brian From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Dec 8 17:56:48 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:56:48 +0000 Subject: Irritating blue rectangle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <493D5FE0.6080100@btinternet.com> I have an annoying dark blue rectangle which migrates from icon to icon along the system tray, at the moment it's masking the volume control, but it covers all the others at some time or another. As long as I remember what's under the rectangle, the correct 'pop-up' opens up OK when I click on it, and sometimes it doesn't completely cover the icon like the time and date for instance. Any idea what is doing this? brian From glyphe at comcast.net Mon Dec 8 20:17:57 2008 From: glyphe at comcast.net (glyphe) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:17:57 -0800 Subject: Automount on 8.10 In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812070542h49d2bdfas702ab7921a74be39@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812060748.34672.d.mcglone@att.net> <493AA774.4020300@chown.dk> <200812062159.15681.d.mcglone@att.net> <5a1f6bd00812070542h49d2bdfas702ab7921a74be39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493D80F5.3040601@comcast.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> 2008/12/7 David McGlone : >> >>> On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:25:24 am Jonas Pedersen wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know how to automount separate partitions with 8.10? I have a >>>>> separate partition that will not automount unless I open dolphin and >>>>> click on it and supply a password. When I look in fstab there is no entry >>>>> for the partition and I don't know if It's possible to add my own entry >>>>> like I have always done in previous version. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>> You can add your own entry to fstab as you have done in previous versions. >>>> >>> Thanks. I wasn't sure if it was allowed anymore, since the behavior changed in >>> such a way that I was asking myself why would the developers do this. >>> >>> >> For disks that you always have connected and want to have mounted >> thats still the preferred way. For removable media let HAL do the >> mounting. >> > > I recently shuffled a bunch of disk around and replaced one. It made > me appreciate using UUID instead of device names in fstab. The device > name changed based on where I moved the disk, but the UUID remained > the same so the mounting continued to work. I only needed to remove > the entry for the drive I removed, and one for the new drive. > > I recommend using UUID when you add the entry to your fstab. > > > If you want a GUI, you can always install ntfs-config. That will set up all your internal or external mounts and I've found it to work quite well. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 8 23:08:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:08:27 -0500 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > What exactly is it, that you would like to achieve with your xorg.conf? I would like to use Compiz. My current system gets bogged down. When I removed Compiz, it regained life. My current computer is a 2.3ghz Pentium 4 with 1gb ram. When I run Compiz, everything else bogs down, even the mouse movement and keyboard strikes. Is this a common symptom for Compiz users? Cudos, Steven From michael at weblore.com Mon Dec 8 23:32:07 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:32:07 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos Message-ID: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? Thanks to all ---Michael From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Dec 8 23:50:39 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:50:39 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812081850.39806.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 08 December 2008 6:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Mon Dec 8 23:57:03 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:57:03 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <493DB44F.9090001@ajinfosearch.com> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > > Thanks to all > ---Michael > Did you have the flashplugin-nonfree package installed? This is the closed source binary from Adobe. There are others but I never got them to work. Alan -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." - author unknown Things I grok: 0 From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 9 00:11:12 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:11:12 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081850.39806.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081850.39806.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812081811.12486.michael@weblore.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 05:50:39 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 6:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > > sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree apt-cache search doen't show a flash-nonfree. it does show a flashplugin-nonfree, and that is already installed. > > -- > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 9 00:11:55 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:11:55 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <493DB44F.9090001@ajinfosearch.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <493DB44F.9090001@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <200812081811.55319.michael@weblore.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 05:57:03 pm Alan Dacey wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > > > > Thanks to all > > ---Michael > > Did you have the flashplugin-nonfree package installed? This is the closed > source binary from Adobe. There are others but I never got them to work. Yes. I note, however, that when I look at the Firefox addins (plugins), it doesn't show flash. From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 9 00:20:12 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:20:12 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - Followup In-Reply-To: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 05:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? I've been examining the problem further. I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree. I also downloaded the flash installer (.deb) and ran it. ...*BUT*.... I just looked in my ~/.mozilla directory, and it doesn't have a plugins subdirectory. For whatever reason, this hasn't been created - so obviously no reference to a flash plugin From pauls at hal-pc.org Tue Dec 9 00:26:17 2008 From: pauls at hal-pc.org (prs) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:26:17 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081811.12486.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081850.39806.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812081811.12486.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <493DBB29.3050906@hal-pc.org> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 05:50:39 pm David McGlone wrote: > >> On Monday 08 December 2008 6:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: >> >>> OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos >>> playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still >>> reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? >>> >> sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree >> > > apt-cache search doen't show a flash-nonfree. it does show a > flashplugin-nonfree, and that is already installed. > >> -- >> David M. >> http://www.dmcentral.net >> > Try sudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree pauls > > > > From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 00:29:54 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:29:54 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - Followup In-Reply-To: <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812081929.54772.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 19:20:12 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I've been examining the problem further. I have installed the > flashplugin-nonfree. I also downloaded the flash installer (.deb) and ran > it. > > ...*BUT*.... > I just looked in my ~/.mozilla directory, and it doesn't have a plugins > subdirectory. For whatever reason, this hasn't been created - so obviously > no reference to a flash plugin If you install via apt, you do it as root, and the plugin is installed in the global plugin directory with the program. I can't remember the exact location, either /usr/lib/firefox or something like that. (I install firefox in /opt because I don't want to install all of the gnome dependencies that the Ubuntu install brings in.) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 9 01:08:35 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:08:35 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - Followup In-Reply-To: <200812081929.54772.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> <200812081929.54772.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812081908.35319.michael@weblore.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 06:29:54 pm Art Alexion wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 19:20:12 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've been examining the problem further. I have installed the > > flashplugin-nonfree. I also downloaded the flash installer (.deb) and ran > > it. > > > > ...*BUT*.... > > I just looked in my ~/.mozilla directory, and it doesn't have a plugins > > subdirectory. For whatever reason, this hasn't been created - so > > obviously no reference to a flash plugin > > If you install via apt, you do it as root, and the plugin is installed in > the global plugin directory with the program. I can't remember the exact > location, either /usr/lib/firefox or something like that. > > (I install firefox in /opt because I don't want to install all of the gnome > dependencies that the Ubuntu install brings in.) Of course. I do see it there ... but it doesn't show in the plugins, and when I go to YouTube, it tells me that flash isn't installed. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Dec 9 02:02:23 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:02:23 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812082102.23361.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 08 December 2008, Michael Satterwhite wrote: >OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos >playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still >reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > Go get the real flash from adobe, its a free download. >Thanks to all >---Michael -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You display the wonderful traits of charm and courtesy. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Dec 9 02:08:44 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:08:44 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - Followup In-Reply-To: <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812082108.44269.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 08 December 2008, Michael Satterwhite wrote: >On Monday 08 December 2008 05:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: >> OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos >> playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still >> reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > >I've been examining the problem further. I have installed the >flashplugin-nonfree. I also downloaded the flash installer (.deb) and ran > it. > >...*BUT*.... >I just looked in my ~/.mozilla directory, and it doesn't have a plugins >subdirectory. For whatever reason, this hasn't been created - so obviously > no reference to a flash plugin And here is another tidbit you may find useful. ALL of my various browsers have a 'plugins' directory that is actually a softlink to a directory named, obviously, plugins in the /usr/lib path where all the browsers seem to install themselves. I put ALL the plugins in that directory and blow away any plugins directories created in the browsers tree, replacing it with the softlink. That way I can update a browser with a new version, and have all the plugins available even before I run it the first time. Works like a champ so far. Knock on wood. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You display the wonderful traits of charm and courtesy. From timothyallen.albertson at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 02:17:20 2008 From: timothyallen.albertson at gmail.com (Timothy-Allen Albertson) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:17:20 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - Followup In-Reply-To: <200812081908.35319.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <200812081820.13090.michael@weblore.com> <200812081929.54772.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812081908.35319.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: Totem, at least in 8.10 version, will search for and play You Tube videos. One does not have the text for a particular video, However, one can search for additional videos without stopping play of the then playing video. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 06:29:54 pm Art Alexion wrote: >> On Monday 08 December 2008 19:20:12 Michael Satterwhite wrote: >> > I've been examining the problem further. I have installed the >> > flashplugin-nonfree. I also downloaded the flash installer (.deb) and ran >> > it. >> > >> > ...*BUT*.... >> > I just looked in my ~/.mozilla directory, and it doesn't have a plugins >> > subdirectory. For whatever reason, this hasn't been created - so >> > obviously no reference to a flash plugin >> >> If you install via apt, you do it as root, and the plugin is installed in >> the global plugin directory with the program. I can't remember the exact >> location, either /usr/lib/firefox or something like that. >> >> (I install firefox in /opt because I don't want to install all of the gnome >> dependencies that the Ubuntu install brings in.) > > Of course. I do see it there ... but it doesn't show in the plugins, and when > I go to YouTube, it tells me that flash isn't installed. > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From godshatter at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 02:45:58 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:45:58 -0800 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493DDBE6.9000608@yahoo.com> Steven Vollom wrote: >> What exactly is it, that you would like to achieve with your xorg.conf? >> > > I would like to use Compiz. My current system gets bogged down. When I > removed Compiz, it regained life. My current computer is a 2.3ghz Pentium 4 > with 1gb ram. When I run Compiz, everything else bogs down, even the mouse > movement and keyboard strikes. > > Is this a common symptom for Compiz users? > > Cudos, > > Steven > > Steven, I haven't noticed any slowdown, but I'm on a dual-core system with 4gb of memory with an OK graphics card. Your new system, once you get past your current problems, sounds like it will run it without any problems whatsoever. Paul From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Dec 9 02:50:16 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:50:16 -0500 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <200812081811.55319.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> <493DB44F.9090001@ajinfosearch.com> <200812081811.55319.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812082150.16628.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 08 December 2008 7:11:55 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 05:57:03 pm Alan Dacey wrote: > > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > > > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube > > > still reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? > > > > > > Thanks to all > > > ---Michael > > > > Did you have the flashplugin-nonfree package installed? This is the > > closed source binary from Adobe. There are others but I never got them > > to work. > > Yes. I note, however, that when I look at the Firefox addins (plugins), it > doesn't show flash. try to re-install it. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From michael at weblore.com Tue Dec 9 04:16:04 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:16:04 -0600 Subject: Can't play Youtube videos - *SOLVED* In-Reply-To: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812081732.07259.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812082216.04317.michael@weblore.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 05:32:07 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > OK, I *FINALLY* got my sound working. Now I need to get YouTube videos > playing. I've installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras, but YouTube still > reports that I don't have Flash. What's the best way to fix this? Thanks to everyone who responded! From your responses, it seemed that what I had done should have worked. I took two step back and went at it again. I used "apt-get purge" to remove the flashplugin-nonfree. I then went to the Adobe site and downloaded the tarball version of the flash plugin, unpacked it and ran the installer (not as root!). That put it in the home directory - and firefox was recognizing it. From that point, I was home free and everything was working. Life is good. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 04:37:49 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 23:37:49 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. Message-ID: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> When kwallet asked for my password, I typed in the password and it did not accept the password. I removed kwallet, re-booted the computer, and Kwin would not run. I typed in kwin, and I got the window back, but it went away again. When I pressed ctrl+f2, the window opened, however, the password would not type into the box. I rebooted to repair, then ran the x ??repair option, then booted. Kwin did not work, however, kontrole opened and the keyboard worked. I typed in sudo apt-get autoremove to remove some unneeded packages, then sudo apt-get update. The computer performed the update procedure, then suggested I do it again. I ran sudo apt-get update again, this time it did not repeat the command. When I continued the boot, my password was accepted and the computer opened. Nonetheless, I did not have Kwin again. I typed in kwin into the terminal and got Kwin back. While I can still do stuff, I am making this post, in case I have difficulty getting to a workable desktop and am able to read incoming emails. This mess happened, I think, because kwallet was not functioning properly. I attempted to add the password for Kmail after I got it working and kwallet did not accept my sudo password. I tried all the passwords I have thinking perhaps I set that password differently. None worked. I then removed kwallet, intending to reinstall, hopefully, a functioning package. So I think removal of kwallet was what screwed things up. Anyway, when I finish this post, I will attempt to configure kwallet once more. Thanks for any input you may have or instructions. I may have difficulty again. The computer has not booted and worked properly since this set of problems began. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 05:04:02 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:04:02 -0500 Subject: Kwin doesn't open when I boot up. Message-ID: <493DFC42.4030804@sbcglobal.net> Since removal of kwallet, my computer doesn't maintain kwin. I have to reboot, then open a shell and type in kwin. I get it back, however if I close the terminal to open adept package manager, the computer releases Kwin and I cannot maneuver until I reboot and enter kwin again. This time I attempted to get back to Kmail for help. I was able to move from a shell to a root shell, so if I knew what code to enter, I could probably repair the problem. dpkg ceases to function the minute I close the terminal. When I sent the last email, kwallet asked for my password again to include Kmail's password. It refused my password and suggested maybe I had entered it incorrectly. None of my passwords work. I don't have any idea what to try next. Steven From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Tue Dec 9 05:09:09 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:09:09 -0800 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812082109.09746.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 08 December 2008 8:37:49 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > When kwallet asked for my password, I typed in the password and it did not > accept the password. I removed kwallet, re-booted the computer, and Kwin > would not run. I typed in kwin, and I got the window back, but it went > away again. When I pressed ctrl+f2, the window opened, however, the > password would not type into the box. > > I rebooted to repair, then ran the x ??repair option, then booted. Kwin > did not work, however, kontrole opened and the keyboard worked. I typed in > sudo apt-get autoremove to remove some unneeded packages, then sudo apt-get > update. The computer performed the update procedure, then suggested I do > it again. I ran sudo apt-get update again, this time it did not repeat the > command. When I continued the boot, my password was accepted and the > computer opened. Nonetheless, I did not have Kwin again. I typed in kwin > into the terminal and got Kwin back. While I can still do stuff, I am > making this post, in case I have difficulty getting to a workable desktop > and am able to read incoming emails. > > This mess happened, I think, because kwallet was not functioning properly. > I attempted to add the password for Kmail after I got it working and > kwallet did not accept my sudo password. I tried all the passwords I have > thinking perhaps I set that password differently. None worked. I then > removed kwallet, intending to reinstall, hopefully, a functioning package. > So I think removal of kwallet was what screwed things up. Anyway, when I > finish this post, I will attempt to configure kwallet once more. Thanks > for any input you may have or instructions. I may have difficulty again. > The computer has not booted and worked properly since this set of problems > began. Congrats Steven! You described most of my kwallet experiences perfectly!! And you now know first hand why it is NOT on my computer. It does NOT let you work with your computer like you want to but how someone else THINKS you should have to and it should not matter you really got a computer to save YOU time and effort rather than creating a dungeon game of some kind with your desktop. It makes Kmail fully useless for retrieving mail unattended which really means there is no reason at all to have a home or office computer but only the one currently in your possession with which you can sometimes find a wifi point. Defeats the entire reason to own a computer, I may as well buy a windoze unit and forget personal preferences. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 05:35:50 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:35:50 +1000 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. Message-ID: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet - if you don't like typing in a password for it then don't. KWallet will let you enter a null password and it will never prompt you again. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Tue Dec 9 06:32:12 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 22:32:12 -0800 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday 08 December 2008 9:35:50 pm lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > I don't understand people issues's with kwallet Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 + hits you get. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 06:58:07 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:58:07 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > I don't understand people issues's with kwallet - if you don't like > typing in a password for it then don't. KWallet will let you enter a > null password and it will never prompt you again. > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ > > I want to use Kwallet. It just doesn't work, and I can't fix it. When I tried to fix it by removing and reinstalling, the system went screwy. Before I had kmail working kwallet opened everything that was in it for me. I liked it very much. Something happened in the course of getting kmail to work. All of a sudden it would not accept my password to include a new password for an as yet unprotected package. I would love some help to get it back. Steven From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 07:01:02 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:01:02 +0200 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <493E17AE.6060601@gmail.com> Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 9:35:50 pm lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet > > Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 + hits > you get. > > > Well I am a happy Kwallet user but also have a user that has intermittent problems with it, seems to somehow forget her passwords for mail retrieval. My problem is actually that it has been so long since I entered some "original" passwords I cant remember them any longer... From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 9 06:29:21 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:29:21 +0100 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812090729.21996.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > This mess happened, I think, because kwallet was not functioning > properly. I attempted to add the password for Kmail after I got it > working and kwallet did not accept my sudo password. I tried all the > passwords I have thinking perhaps I set that password differently. > None worked. I then removed kwallet, intending to reinstall, > hopefully, a functioning package. So I think removal of kwallet was > what screwed things up. Anyway, when I finish this post, I will > attempt to configure kwallet once more. Thanks for any input you may > have or instructions. I may have difficulty again. The computer has > not booted and worked properly since this set of problems began. My suggestion would be that you stop reinstalling all the packages that seem to be not working. That really doesn't help and I think you have seen that already. The problem is that many programs use personal configuration files once you have started them. Reinstalling programs only replaces global configuration files but never touches personal configuration files and the problem persists. Therefore you will have to find out where the personal configuration file is and delete that file (or rename it). Your personal configuration files for KDE are in "$HOME/.kde/". This is a hidden directory so you have to enable the display of hidden files in your file manager to find this directory. There are several places in this directory where you can find the configuration for a particular program. First look in "$HOME/.kde/share/config/". The file names are usually derived from the program name with "rc" appended. So look for kwalletrc in the above mentioned directory and delete it. If that doesn't help, there might be further configuration files in a separate directory for each KDE program in "$HOME/.kde/share/apps/". The directory name is usually the name of the application, so search for a directory kwallet and remove that directory. Now if you have removed the kwallet files you will have to do the kmail configuration for your email accounts again because the information was actually stored in the kwallet files. Then when you save the new kmail setup don't use a password for kwallet. As nobody except you has access to your machine it is not really necessary to have a password. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 07:10:06 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:10:06 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> > > Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 + hits > you get. > I'm not lazy. When I was asking for help, my system was crashing with almost every move. I just wanted some experience in the mix. I am not even sure I could have gotten the browser open when I made my first post. Even now, it has seemed wiser to wait to see if someone knew what was going on, rather than take a chance on crashing again by going of on a search. I had to reboot six time before I got an email through with a post. In fact I am keeping a root konsole open just to be able to communicate with the List. It is a real serious matter when I am crashed. I don't have the experience to work my way to the surface. When it happens and I can't work it out, I have to reinstall the OS. And right now, I really need my computer. I have many things going on at the same time. Losing my computer could really hurt me. I know I have been posting a lot, but it is because I have been able to learn more using the List than I have alone over the past more than three years. If you will just forgive my intense presence for a little longer, I really feel that I will soon be able to retain enough to not be such a bother. Kwallet did not work perfect for the past several months, it just did not represent much of a problem. I wasn't adding password protected packages. Kmail changed that. So it looked like time to get to fixing the wallet. I am truly sorry and extremely grateful for the labor taken on my behalf. Thanks for your continued patience, Steven From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 07:32:28 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:32:28 +0200 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493E1F0C.5060804@gmail.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: >> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet - if you don't like >> typing in a password for it then don't. KWallet will let you enter a >> null password and it will never prompt you again. >> >> -- >> Lindsay Mathieson >> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ >> >> > I want to use Kwallet. It just doesn't work, and I can't fix it. When > I tried to fix it by removing and reinstalling, the system went screwy. > Before I had kmail working kwallet opened everything that was in it for > me. I liked it very much. Something happened in the course of getting > kmail to work. All of a sudden it would not accept my password to > include a new password for an as yet unprotected package. I would love > some help to get it back. > Try this from a "recovery console" (see the boot menu when you start the computer): Delete the file /.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl Next time kwallet launches it will prompt you for new password. this may be outdated info, it is from v 7.10 so could have changed since. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 07:38:23 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:38:23 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812090729.21996.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812090729.21996.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <493E206F.9020901@sbcglobal.net> > My suggestion would be that you stop reinstalling all the packages that > seem to be not working. The only broken packages are Kwin and Kwallet (and perhaps KDEwallet). Since removal of Kwallet, Kwin won't stay running, and I don't know how to navigate the desktop without the drag capability offered by Kwin. When Kwallet is removed, it still keeps asking for a Kwallet password, as though it is still in the system. For many months it has been like that, however, I did not use Kmail then, and no other program raised the kwallet problem. When I was finally able to get kmail working again, this new problem rose. I have to keep reinstalling Kwin, or I can't operate my computer. > Therefore you will have to find out where the personal configuration file is and delete that file (or rename it). > Thanks. I think I will be able to find and rename it. I don't want to remove it until I find out how many other programs it affects. > Your personal configuration files for KDE are in "$HOME/.kde/". It was rc files that fixed my Email problem. Are rc files always configuration files? That would be nice to know. > So look for kwalletrc in the above mentioned directory and delete it. Initially kwallet was the package I removed to try to fix the problem. I reinstalled it too. Later, I noticed when I was unable to get kwallet to accept a new password for kmail that it referred to *kdewallet *in the error message instead of *kwallet. *When I attempted to remove kdewallet, I typed the following into the command line, sudo apt-get autoremove kdewallet. It was a guess for proper wording. The computer responded that that folder did not exist. > so search for a directory kwallet and remove that directory. > Unless I hear otherwise, I will rename it too. I am leery of removing stuff I don't know the contents. > Then when you save the new kmail setup don't use a password for kwallet. > If I don't enter a password, is it just going to keep coming up every time I send an email? I thought that I had indicated in kmail configuration that the password and username were to be remembered, and still kwallet came up. Kwallet kept popping up even when it was uninstalled from my computer. Thanks Nils; I can follow this instruction. Do you think my problem with Kwin will go away when this problem is fixed? It didn't really happen until I removed Kwallet. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 07:44:58 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:44:58 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E1F0C.5060804@gmail.com> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> <493E1F0C.5060804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493E21FA.2010200@sbcglobal.net> > Delete the file /.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl > Next time kwallet launches it will prompt you for new password. > > this may be outdated info, it is from v 7.10 so could have changed since. > Nils gave me a detailed instruction, but this looks simpler. I am running Hardy anyway, so it should work. My new computer should be running soon, so if I can just keep this one working until the new one works, I will be a happy camper. Thanks to all of you. This problem was leaving me crippled. I couldn't search it out. Thanks O. Sincerely, Steven > > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 08:01:08 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:01:08 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E1F0C.5060804@gmail.com> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> <493E1F0C.5060804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493E25C4.1010709@sbcglobal.net> > Delete the file /.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl > I renamed the kdewallet.kwl file to kdewallet lwk. When I sent an email, I entered the server password; Kwallet opened asking for my password. It did NOT ask for a new password. I attempted the proper password and it was refused again. I am going to try Nils' instruction. I believe it will work, because it removes the same kind of file ending that cured the Kmail problem. If it works, I will type a recapitulation of the repair. You may want to enter it into memory too. It sounds like lots of people have problems with kwallet. I actually like the program and want to use it. I am pretty sure I am the one who screwed it up with my un-knowledgeable experimentation. Thanks friend, Steven From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 9 08:28:51 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:28:51 +0100 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E206F.9020901@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812090729.21996.kassube@gmx.net> <493E206F.9020901@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812090928.52073.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > My suggestion would be that you stop reinstalling all the packages > > that seem to be not working. > > The only broken packages are Kwin and Kwallet (and perhaps KDEwallet). > Since removal of Kwallet, Kwin won't stay running, and I don't know how > to navigate the desktop without the drag capability offered by Kwin. In a terminal you can use the cd command to enter a particular directory and with the ls command you can list files. Use "ls -A" to list hidden files also. So if you use the commands cd $HOME/.kde/share/config ls kwin* you will see config files for kwin (there may be more than one). You can rename them with commands like mv kwinrc kwinrc.orig but don't use wildcards for renaming. > When Kwallet is removed, it still keeps asking for a Kwallet password, > as though it is still in the system. Are you sure? You should only be asked for a login password. And maybe if you want to receive / send mails you would be asked for your account passwords but I can't think of any reason why a program might ask for the kwallet password if kwallet isn't installed. > > Your personal configuration files for KDE are in "$HOME/.kde/". > > It was rc files that fixed my Email problem. Are rc files always > configuration files? That would be nice to know. Well, most files ending with "rc" are configuration files but certainly not ALL of them. > > so search for a directory kwallet and remove that directory. > > Unless I hear otherwise, I will rename it too. I am leery of removing > stuff I don't know the contents. It sure makes sense to rename it instead of deleting. > > Then when you save the new kmail setup don't use a password for > > kwallet. > > If I don't enter a password, is it just going to keep coming up every > time I send an email? I thought that I had indicated in kmail > configuration that the password and username were to be remembered, and > still kwallet came up. If you have set kdewallet to use no password it shouldn't ask again. At least that's how it works here. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 08:40:04 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:40:04 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. Message-ID: <200812090340.04197.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Until I am sure that Kwin is a resolved problem, I will keep this post active. Thanks to all, especially you Nils. You have helped me many times and twice when it was pretty crucial to me. I removed the following: /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc Then I removed /home/steven/.kde/share/aps/kwallet. I closed Kmail and re-opened it again. I mailed myself an email. I typed in my server password, then a window opened that asked me to set a password for kwallet. It had to be added twice. The email was delivered. I then went back to see if any of the folders returned. /home/steven/.kde/share/aps/kwallet was restored, even though I had removed it. It seems to work fine now. I am so grateful. Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 09:05:11 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:05:11 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <200812090928.52073.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812090729.21996.kassube@gmx.net> <493E206F.9020901@sbcglobal.net> <200812090928.52073.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <493E34C7.9050008@sbcglobal.net> > > > cd $HOME/.kde/share/config > ls kwin* > I screwed up a bit, but corrected my error. Here is what I did: steven at Studio25:~$ cd $HOME/.kde/share/config ls kwin* steven at Studio25:~/.kde/share/config$ cd $HOME/.kde/share/config steven at Studio25:~/.kde/share/config$ ls kwin* kwincrystalrc kwinrc kwinrulesrc kwin_update kwin.eventsrc kwinrc.old kwinrules_update steven at Studio25:~/.kde/share/config$ I notice that in the past I must have been here before, because there is a kwinrc.old. This is becoming very fun, because lights are going on in my mind, and I am retaining a lot of stuff. If kwin doesn't continue to be a problem, can I leave things the way they are, or should I remove the .old file since it has been replaced. > you will see config files for kwin (there may be more than one). You can > rename them with commands like > > mv kwinrc kwinrc.orig > > but don't use wildcards for renaming. > I don't understand this part. > >> When Kwallet is removed, it still keeps asking for a Kwallet password, >> as though it is still in the system. >> > > Are you sure? I am sure. It doesn't happen now, but before, I would type in the server password, then a request would come to enter the kwallet password. I presume to enter the server password, I don't know, but it happened every time. I used the old em that I liked so much. I will never forget that one. > but I can't think of any reason why a program might ask for the > kwallet password if kwallet isn't installed. > That was the reason I attempted the fix. I liked having kmail working, however, every time I sent an email, I had to type in the server password, then the kwallet password, it would be rejected. I would try to cancel the repeated requests until I finally clicked x in the corner to make it go away. As long as I tried to put in a password, it would reject and return. Right now, I sent myself an email; I did not have to type any password at all. It simply sent as it is supposed to. I think that part is fixed. I don't know about kwin yet. I will have to use the computer a while to see if it still is a problem. Deep thanks friend. I posted a thank you, however, I may have forgotten to indicate RESOLVED. I don't receive my own posts, so I won't know. This was a most stressful problem. It is a glorious feeling now. It is strange, I don't have to write the path to these resolutions. Before, I would have. In fact, when I removed the folders, even though they were gone, I was able to trace my steps to their former location. That is how I noticed kwallet had been re-established. You are taking so much stress from my learning process, Nils, I really appreciate your patience. Cudos, my friend, Steven > > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 09:32:17 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 04:32:17 -0500 Subject: For all who gave up on Kwallet. Message-ID: <200812090432.17691.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I have been living with kmail and kwallet problems for about 2 years now. I couldn't fix them until I got help from the list. Some of you spoke of having troubles with Kmail and giving up on it once you found a way around it. I highly recommend working through the problem. Just read the posts that involved resolution of my problem; I am sure it will resolve your problems too. There just don't seem enough alternative solutions to make the repair another way, and this solution is very easy, once you find it. As a consequence I have come to really understand the repair. Now, for those of you who have given up on it, I am confident when you have resolved your problem, you will also realize the benefit derived from having it working. It increases your mail security, and when properly installed, you don't even know it is there. All those times you have to enter a password will happen automatically with security, unless you want an extra layer of personal attention by requiring your typing in a password anyway. I am a believer. In fact, every time I work through a problem where I was regretting one of those brainless solutions Microsoft offers, leaving you naked, I find that just getting used to the Kubuntu KDE solution is not only more secure, it is much easier. Eventually, you don't have to think about it, just like in Windows. Anyone who is having trouble making the change is welcome to write me. I will spend as much time with you as is necessary to get you to where I seem to be now. I am very happy. Thanks again to the List. Steven From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Tue Dec 9 11:50:24 2008 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:50:24 +0200 Subject: Tips for getting Networking back in some 8.10 installations. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812091350.24860.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> I have been battling to get one of my computers to see my network. I run 8.10 with Kde 4.1.3 on a AMD box. The problem is with DSL dial up using pppoeconfig. It will allow connection to the Internet, but close the connection to the network somehow so that internal files and printers can't be seen. The solution is the remove the following lines in etc\network\interfaces file: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet manual Leave the dsl dialup section. Network manager does not like any configuration except the "auto lo" lines in the configuration files because it controls all interfaces. I can now connect to the Internet and see my network. Hope it helps somebody as it was a real pain for me. From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 9 10:44:08 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:44:08 +0100 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <493E34C7.9050008@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812090928.52073.kassube@gmx.net> <493E34C7.9050008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812091144.08085.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > mv kwinrc kwinrc.orig > > > > but don't use wildcards for renaming. > > I don't understand this part. Wildcards would be used to refer to several files at same time. "*" and "?" are the most frequently used wildcard characters. With DOS you could use wildcard characters to rename files. But you can't do it the same way with the "mv" command. Nils From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 11:28:51 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:28:51 +0200 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812090328y49e45766p1ec87c81a59360ab@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/7 Steven Vollom : > Prelude to my post. (I removed Compiz due to what I thought were memory > problems and crashes. I need this computer functioning for a few more days. > If the problem I was having can be cured, I will fix it, but I can't take a > chance on crashing and burning for a few days with this computer.) > > It was suggest that I make this post, which is a little over my head yet. In > the Konsole, I typed 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and what is below came on the > terminal: > > # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) > # > # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using > # values from the debconf database. > # > # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. > # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) > # > # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* > # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg > # package. > # > # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated > # again, run the following command: > # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "CorePointer" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Configured Monitor" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Monitor "Configured Monitor" > Device "Configured Video Device" > EndSection > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Default Layout" > Screen "Default Screen" > EndSection > steven at Studio25:~$ > I see that you are not using the proprietary video driver. Which video hardware do you have? Does enabling the proprietary driver make Compiz smoother? > Generally it doesn't look like I got a desired result, I was asked to provide > the contents of the above file; this looks like some kind of instruction > rather than data. I need the doctor? > No, that is exactly what we needed to see you video settings. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 11:39:45 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:39:45 +0200 Subject: Partition mounting problem. In-Reply-To: <200812070946.23785.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812070946.23785.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812090339r234d4942qf8febcacf14d4744@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/7 Steven Vollom : > My sdb5 partition is probably improperly mounted. Each time I boot up, I have > to go to Disk&File Systems in Hardy KDE3.5.10 to enable it, then I only have > use of a folder in the partition. Prior to mount, it shows a permissions > problem. When I can use the folder but try to put data in the partition > without also putting it in the folder, 'Access Denied. Could not write to > sdb5'. > > I have saved lots of data in a file in that partition, but nothing about this > partition is normal. The ability to have the functioning folder was a help I > got from this List, several days ago. The partition works, but poorly. TIA > > Steven > Please post the contents of your fstab file. Also, are you certain that your particular folder really is on that drive? Maybe it is a link to another place? Can you _read_ data from other locations on the partition? Can you please post the partitioning table for that drive? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 11:40:00 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:40:00 +0100 Subject: Compiz leaves Kicker a mess Message-ID: Anyone know how to fix this? For example if I boot 3 programs then it has 3 showing on the bar but if I close 2 then it still shows the 3. As I open and close more stuff it gets to be a total mess. Also it has 3 windows but I want it to have 4 and can't find a way to change that. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Dec 9 11:57:18 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:57:18 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812090657.18698.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: >> Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 + >> hits you get. > >I'm not lazy. When I was asking for help, my system was crashing with >almost every move. I just wanted some experience in the mix. I am not >even sure I could have gotten the browser open when I made my first >post. Even now, it has seemed wiser to wait to see if someone knew what >was going on, rather than take a chance on crashing again by going of on >a search. I had to reboot six time before I got an email through with a >post. In fact I am keeping a root konsole open just to be able to >communicate with the List. > >It is a real serious matter when I am crashed. I don't have the >experience to work my way to the surface. When it happens and I can't >work it out, I have to reinstall the OS. And right now, I really need >my computer. I have many things going on at the same time. Losing my >computer could really hurt me. > >I know I have been posting a lot, but it is because I have been able to >learn more using the List than I have alone over the past more than >three years. If you will just forgive my intense presence for a little >longer, I really feel that I will soon be able to retain enough to not >be such a bother. Kwallet did not work perfect for the past several >months, it just did not represent much of a problem. I wasn't adding >password protected packages. Kmail changed that. So it looked like >time to get to fixing the wallet. I am truly sorry and extremely >grateful for the labor taken on my behalf. > >Thanks for your continued patience, > >Steven Steven; Its been my experience that a machine that continually crashes, generally has a hardware problem of some kind, like a bad memory module or similar. Go back to the install disk which I believe has an optional memtest program that can be run directly from that cd/dvd. This memory tester is an extremely thorough and comprehensive tester. Fire that up and let it run, either till it tells you there is bad memory, or a full day, which should be several full cycles of all the tests it uses. Also, while that is running, find a friend with a digital multimeter and have him check the power supply's output voltages, which can be another cause of random problems. I am a C.E.T., and in particular, power supplies drift low as they age, cheaper ones often to the crash/reset voltage levels in a year or less. A good place, and easy to access for 2 of its voltages is the connector that plugs into the back of a hard drive, and there is probably 1 or 2 that aren't in use that the probes can be used in to measure this. One of the outside wires of the 4 will have nominally 12 volts on it, but anything from 11.25 to 12.75 is fine. The other outside wire will be the 5 volt line, and this is a good indication of the power supplies health. From 4.95 to 5.05 volts is ok, but below 4.85 there says its time for a fresh psu, as is a reading that varies by more than .1 volts over about a minutes time. The 2 center wires in one of those plugs is ground, and should be within .05 volts of the chassis metal. If you find problems, either with the memory, or with the psu, fixing that will probably get rid of 95% of your problems. A decent digital VOM can be had for under a $50 bill at a place like Radio Shack or an electronics parts house, heck even Lowes carries them, and better ones than the shacks TBT, and will in the long run, be worth far more that its price in sliced bread toward hardware peace of mind. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If loving linux is wrong, I dont wanna be right. -- Topic for #LinuxGER From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 12:40:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:40:56 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <200812091144.08085.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <493E34C7.9050008@sbcglobal.net> <200812091144.08085.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812090740.56117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > > > mv kwinrc kwinrc.orig I don't remember what to do with mv kwinrc kwinrc.orig I renamed all the kwin 'rc' files. There were 9. I am sure I did this part wrong, but I highlighted all 9 folders, a window opened and asked if I wanted to change the name by numbers, I agreed, and they were renamed New name 1 - 9. I don't know which is which to put them back. I could not find any file named kwin, even using 'find' in Dolphin. With all of them renamed, I booted and still had to enter kwin in a shell to get it working again. The minute I close the konsole, kwin crashes. When I first boot after making changes, a dos-like screen whizzes by. An asterik was red on one of the first page each boot, before I changed the names on the first page of the reboot. I could not read it, however. When I re-established kwin the last time, then rebooted after losing it by closing the terminal, the dos-like pages no longer appeared at boot-up. It went straight to the Del logo, then choice of OS, then login. I was expecting things to work this time. They didn't. What do I try next? Any ideas? Steven From AmbergerTh at yahoo.de Tue Dec 9 14:38:35 2008 From: AmbergerTh at yahoo.de (Thomas Amberger) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:38:35 +0100 Subject: dvd-slideshow Message-ID: <200812091538.35750.AmbergerTh@yahoo.de> Hello, I try to make a slideshow with dvd-slideshow, i didn't work. I get the error: ERROR during ffmpeg execution! I found some things: sudo apt-get install libsox-fmt-all sudo sed -i 's/-ab 192/-ab 192k/g' /usr/bin/dvd-slideshow (i changed also all bitrates to "xxk") and i tryed the newest version of dvd-slideshow It didn't work. Now I get another error (the mpg-file was not build): #################### This usually happens when ffmpeg screws up something [dvd-slideshow] or one image is messed up and the resulting video can't be created [dvd-slideshow]############################################################ [dvd-slideshow] Multiplexing audio and video... [dvd-slideshow] ERROR during mplex execution! ####################### Has anyone an idea? Is there another programm that works out of the box? I had with dvd-slideshow with every new version or new versions of Kubuntu (i use 8.10) problems. Thanks for help Thomas From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 9 14:59:28 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:59:28 -0400 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <493E17AE.6060601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3559526.R75Rg07glG@cedar.serverforest.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Pastor JW wrote: >> On Monday 08 December 2008 9:35:50 pm lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com >> wrote: >>> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet >> >> Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 >> + hits you get. >> > Well I am a happy Kwallet user but also have a user that has > intermittent problems with it, seems to somehow forget her passwords > for mail retrieval. My problem is actually that it has been so long > since I entered some "original" passwords I cant remember them any > longer... Then open the wallet, search for the relevant map/password, and have it show you what you used. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 9 14:58:16 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:58:16 -0400 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <1655212.09UfZlybXB@cedar.serverforest.com> Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 9:35:50 pm lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com > wrote: >> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet > > Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 + > hits you get. And you _still_ won't understand people's issues with kwallet :-) afaict, the issues almost always arise from a complete misunderstanding of what kwallet is supposed to be doing for them - which is probably a documentation problem. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 17:09:41 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:09:41 +0200 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812090909l6443e535s992c6358b7151e7d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/9 Steven Vollom : > I want to use Kwallet. It just doesn't work, and I can't fix it. When > I tried to fix it by removing and reinstalling, the system went screwy. > Before I had kmail working kwallet opened everything that was in it for > me. I liked it very much. Something happened in the course of getting > kmail to work. All of a sudden it would not accept my password to > include a new password for an as yet unprotected package. I would love > some help to get it back. > > Steven > In linux, one does not reset an applications' settings by removing and reinstalling. Applications' settings are reset by removing the config files. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 17:12:35 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:12:35 +0200 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812090912qafc25e7y148546987d281cf1@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/9 Steven Vollom : > I know I have been posting a lot, but it is because I have been able to > learn more using the List than I have alone over the past more than > three years. If you will just forgive my intense presence for a little > longer, I really feel that I will soon be able to retain enough to not > be such a bother. You are not a bother, you are a valuable list member. And I've seen you make more of an effort to adjust to list culture than most noobs, Steven. Keep posting, and we will do our best. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 9 17:41:07 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:41:07 +0100 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <200812090740.56117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812091144.08085.kassube@gmx.net> <200812090740.56117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812091841.07799.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > I was expecting things to work this time. They didn't. What do I try > next? Any ideas? More or less a last resort: You can rename the $HOME/.kde directory, then logout and login again. That will create a clean version for all your config files. Or as an alternative you could create a new user and login as the new user. Then kwin shouldn't crash but if it does I would suppose there is a hardware problem. Nils From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Dec 9 18:16:00 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:16:00 +0000 Subject: Looking for a clear calendar. In-Reply-To: <493E9505.2090307@gmail.com> References: <493E9505.2090307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493EB5E0.1060405@tiscali.co.uk> Michael wrote: > I have been googling for the past hour trying to find a > clear/transparent calender that will display on my desktop. There seems > to be more stuff for Gnome than KDE, but I did find some KDE hits. > However, they all seem to be embedded in 'themes.' There are compiz > themes, beryl themes, kwin and metacity themes. I have no idea what all > that stuff is. > > Does KDE have a calendar, preferably a clear/transparent one, that will > sit on my desktop? > > Thanks > > Michael > > > > Which version of Kubuntu are you running? If it's Intrepid, there's a nice calendar widget which is transparent... :@) HTH -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From paul at lemmons.name Tue Dec 9 19:58:28 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:58:28 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken Message-ID: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> Just a heads up, if you were waiting for OO 3 to return to the PPA, the good news ia that your wait is over! The bad news is that is is broken. When you stry to start it, it fails. Information seen in the console when you start it from the command line is: . . . QPainter::begin: A paint device can only be painted by one painter at a time. QPainter::setWorldTransform: Painter not active ASSERT: "slOpt" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.3/kdeui/kernel/kstyle.cpp, line 3314 QPainter::begin: A paint device can only be painted by one painter at a time. QPainter::setWorldTransform: Painter not active . . . I found a German discussion on the topic but not an English one. So I thought I would first warn others and second get a thread started. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 20:32:18 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:32:18 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200812092132.19115.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:58:28 Paul Lemmons wrote: > Just a heads up, if you were waiting for OO 3 to return to the PPA, the > good news ia that your wait is over! The bad news is that is is broken. Indeed I'm one of the lucky ones... upgraded this morning. Thanks anyway. The funny thing is that the previous launchpad version - the one that disappeared sometime ago - worked nicely in kubuntu. I think the problem is in openoffice.org-kde (1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1) Let's hope they get it fixed soon. -- lanzen From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 20:36:21 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:36:21 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812092132.19115.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812092132.19115.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812091536.22026.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 03:32:18 pm lanzen wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:58:28 Paul Lemmons wrote: > > Just a heads up, if you were waiting for OO 3 to return to the PPA, the > > good news ia that your wait is over! The bad news is that is is broken. > > Indeed I'm one of the lucky ones... upgraded this morning. > Thanks anyway. > > The funny thing is that the previous launchpad version - the one that > disappeared sometime ago - worked nicely in kubuntu. > > I think the problem is in openoffice.org-kde (1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1) > > Let's hope they get it fixed soon. Mine broken as well. From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 21:12:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:12:18 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812091536.22026.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812092132.19115.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812091536.22026.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 3:36:21 pm Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 03:32:18 pm lanzen wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:58:28 Paul Lemmons wrote: > > > Just a heads up, if you were waiting for OO 3 to return to the PPA, the > > > good news ia that your wait is over! The bad news is that is is broken. > > > > Indeed I'm one of the lucky ones... upgraded this morning. > > Thanks anyway. > > > > The funny thing is that the previous launchpad version - the one that > > disappeared sometime ago - worked nicely in kubuntu. > > > > I think the problem is in openoffice.org-kde (1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1) > > > > Let's hope they get it fixed soon. > > Mine broken as well. Wait, it is a KDE incompatibility thing. Working fine under Gnome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 21:29:23 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:29:23 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812091536.22026.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 22:12:18 Art Alexion wrote: > Wait, it is a KDE incompatibility thing.  Working fine under Gnome. Yes, it does. I removed openoffice.org-kde and it doesn't crash anymore, but it's dammned ugly. The toolbar vanishes grasfully along with the menus. -- lanzen From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Dec 9 21:48:48 2008 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:48:48 +0200 Subject: dolphin compression service menus - help! In-Reply-To: <49369651.7070801@akl.lt> References: <49369651.7070801@akl.lt> Message-ID: <493EE7C0.5000906@akl.lt> Never mind, I have found a service menu for that in kde-apps.org, it supports both multiple files and files with white spaces. BTW, kde 4.2 will include some sort of the previous ark menus... Donatas Donatas G. rašė: > I found it frustrating that Dolphin does not have service menus for > compression/uncompression of files. Ark, it seems, has lost all the > command line arguments (besides failure to open zip files) with the > transition to kde4, so the old menus, even when converted to kde4 > format, are useless... > > I tried to create compression menu, but inside the archive I get a > structure with all the /home/username/path/to/the/dir/to/be/compressed/ > which is not good at all... Besides, it does not work on files. I have > run out of ideas... > > Any ideas how to modify the menu so it works? > > contents of > /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/archive_dir.desktop : > > > [Desktop Entry] > ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin,inode/directory > Actions=CompressZip;CompressTarGz;CompressTarBz2 > X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel > X-KDE-Submenu=Compress > X-KDE-Submenu[lt]=Suspausti > Type=Service > > [Desktop Action CompressZip] > Name=Zip Archive > Name[lt]=į zip archyvą > Icon=utilities-file-archiver > Exec=zip -r %f.zip %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! > > [Desktop Action CompressTarGz] > Name=Gzipped Tar Archive > Name[lt]=į tar.gz archyvą > Icon=utilities-file-archiver > Exec=tar -cvzf %f.tar.gz %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! > > [Desktop Action CompressTarBz2] > Name=Bzip2 Tar Archive > Name[lt]=į tar.bz2 archyvą > Icon=utilities-file-archiver > Exec=tar -cjf %f.tar.bz2 %F && kdialog --msgbox Done! > > > == > Donatas > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 23:06:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:06:27 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <1655212.09UfZlybXB@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <1655212.09UfZlybXB@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812091806.27555.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > And you _still_ won't understand people's issues with kwallet :-) > afaict, the issues almost always arise from a complete misunderstanding > of what kwallet is supposed to be doing for them - which is probably a > documentation problem. Derek, That basically was the problem I had. When I finally got it working properly, I just love it. It eliminates several unnecessary work steps you would have to use without it, and maintains better security. And you can use a variety of complex passwords if you want and not have to worry about remembering them. You only have one to worry about. Kwallet does the rest. I am including this, because I believe there are many out there who are like I was. This wonderful program will make their lives easier and more secure. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 23:12:29 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:12:29 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <880dece00812090909l6443e535s992c6358b7151e7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E16FF.9030803@sbcglobal.net> <880dece00812090909l6443e535s992c6358b7151e7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812091812.29750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > In linux, one does not reset an applications' settings by removing and > reinstalling. Applications' settings are reset by removing the config > files. I am on the same page with you right now and seem to understand, however, I hope I can retain this instruction. I think it can resolve problems I seem to continue to make, at least until I change to proper procedure to not let it happen any more. Thanks Dotan. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 9 23:22:28 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:22:28 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <200812091841.07799.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812082337.49981.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812090740.56117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812091841.07799.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812091822.28249.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >Or as an alternative, you could create a new user and login as the new user. Being alone, I have never added a new user. It sounds like the better of the two ideas. I looked in System Settings and didn't see anything there. I looked for new user in Konqueror Handbook, typed in new user and got nothing. Is that the right place to look for instructions how to add a new user? If so, what do I ask for? Steven From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 00:03:13 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:03:13 +1000 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. Message-ID: <493f0741.1c50.b6da9b90.1974c957@blackpaw.dyndns.org> --- Original message --- Subject: Re: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. From: Steven Vollom To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 09/12/2008 11:29 PM >Or as an alternative, you could create a new user and login as the new user. >Being alone, I have never added a new user. It sounds like the better of the two ideas. I looked in System Settings and didn't see anything there. I looked for new user in >Konqueror Handbook, typed in new user and got nothing. Is that the right place to look for instructions how to add a new user? If so, what do I ask for? >From memory its in the System Menu - User Maintainance -- Lindsay Mathieson http://album.mathieson.org.nz/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 00:05:21 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:05:21 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812090657.18698.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> <200812090657.18698.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >Go back to the install disk which I believe has an optional > memtest program that can be run directly from that cd/dvd. I gave my installation CD to a friend. Is the package you refer to in Adept Package Manager? What is it's name? >find a friend with a digital multimeter and have him check > the power supply's output voltages I am alone, no friends but you guys. But I did order a power supply tester, and it is in route. My new computer has a hardware problem; I purchased the tester to check my new 800W BFG Power Supply. It has a slot for every power cable. Should have been here already, but no such luck. I am keeping a copy of your post and will check each power lead when it gets here. Thanks for the info. Looks like I will get to use that tool twice. I am having so much fun. That thought never occurred to me; I even think it will stick as a memory for my forgetful mind-something about selectivity. I want to remember that. > If you find problems, either with the memory, or with the psu, fixing that > will probably get rid of 95% of your problems. The only way I know to check memory is to try it in another computer. Is there another way? Thanks friend. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 00:22:44 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:22:44 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <493f0741.1c50.b6da9b90.1974c957@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <493f0741.1c50.b6da9b90.1974c957@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200812091922.44417.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> To bring it back to the top. And Thanks by the way. Kmenu>System Settings>Computer Administration>User Management Steven From karlok at fastmail.fm Wed Dec 10 01:55:42 2008 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:55:42 -0800 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <493E19CE.70107@sbcglobal.net> <200812090657.18698.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <493F219E.2020203@fastmail.fm> Steven Vollom wrote: > The only way I know to check memory is to try it in another computer. Is > there another way? Thanks friend. > There should be an entry in your grub menu for memtest86+. I have read that it should be run for a long time, like overnight, to find memory problems. Karl From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Dec 10 03:10:38 2008 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:10:38 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812090657.18698.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812092210.38251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: >>Go back to the install disk which I believe has an optional >> memtest program that can be run directly from that cd/dvd. > >I gave my installation CD to a friend. Is the package you refer to in Adept >Package Manager? What is it's name? > Borrow it back. >>find a friend with a digital multimeter and have him check >> the power supply's output voltages > >I am alone, no friends but you guys. But I did order a power supply tester, >and it is in route. Those detect only outright failures. A gizmo that solves a problem that doesn't exist in this case unless they have gotten a LOT smarter in the last 2 years. Since they are built by the lowest bidder, based on the same theory that designs new fishing lures (will it catch the fisherman?), I have a rather jaded view of such a device, a device that can't load a psu to even 5% of its rated capacity without letting all the smoke out of itself. Its been said that all this stuff runs on smoke and mirrors, and if you break it and let the smoke out, it doesn't work anymore. :) >My new computer has a hardware problem; I purchased > the tester to check my new 800W BFG Power Supply. It has a slot for every > power cable. Should have been here already, but no such luck. I am > keeping a copy of your post and will check each power lead when it gets > here. Thanks for the info. Looks like I will get to use that tool twice. > I am having so much fun. That thought never occurred to me; I even think > it will stick as a memory for my forgetful mind-something about > selectivity. I want to remember that. Sorry, the only sub for the digital multimeter would be a _well_ calibrated oscilloscope. Bring $2000 plus for one with sufficient accuracy, and half a lifetime (for you maybe, longer for me as I'm 74 with 58 years of doing this for a living) with a scope probe in one hand to see what it tells you. The multimeter is about 40x cheaper for this and still more accurate than the scope, I have one. >> If you find problems, either with the memory, or with the psu, fixing that >> will probably get rid of 95% of your problems. > >The only way I know to check memory is to try it in another computer. Is >there another way? Thanks friend. Yes, get that install CD back, or get whoever burnt that one to make you another, then run the memory tester thats on it. Or download 'memtest86', write it to a floppy with 'dd', set the bios to look at the floppy first and reboot, it will autorun itself from the floppy. This utility will test the memory far more rigorously than putting it in another machine. And you won't damage it from a static charge while putzing around moving it. >Steven -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Civilization is fun! Anyway, it keeps me busy!! From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 04:15:26 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:15:26 +0200 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <3559526.R75Rg07glG@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812082232.12111.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <493E17AE.6060601@gmail.com> <3559526.R75Rg07glG@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <493F425E.8000508@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Pastor JW wrote: >>> On Monday 08 December 2008 9:35:50 pm lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com >>> wrote: >>>> I don't understand people issues's with kwallet >>> Simple, just type "kwallet prob" in google and start in on the 15000 >>> + hits you get. >>> >> Well I am a happy Kwallet user but also have a user that has >> intermittent problems with it, seems to somehow forget her passwords >> for mail retrieval. My problem is actually that it has been so long >> since I entered some "original" passwords I cant remember them any >> longer... > > Then open the wallet, search for the relevant map/password, and have it > show you what you used. Brilliant! Derek you are a star! From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 08:07:03 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:07:03 -0500 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <200812041616.20379.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <49365B26.9060909@btinternet.com> <200812041616.20379.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1228896424.2099.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 16:16 -0500, Art Alexion wrote: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:10:46 am Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > > first few bars of a song and > > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > > brian > > I think there is a bug in the Xine library. It will stop doing that if you > disable cross-fading in the settings. > > Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback. Do you use a delay setting?? I've diabled crossfading, but it still goes bananas with flash from Youtube. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 08:19:00 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:19:00 -0500 Subject: EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1228897140.2099.103.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:41 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote: > I am poor and alone, and don't have normal conveniences, and I also have > an extreme need to be able to function on my computer. I know I have > bothered you a lot, but I am in a serious problem, needing internet > access and not knowing when it will leave again. TIA Is this the new machine you just put together?? 8 megs of ram I seem to recall? If so, you might try removing all the memory sticks except one. If all works, add another. Test again. Then add another. You may either have memory problems or a power supply problem. My machine went ape, when I first bought it ...hard drive problems, keyboard went flaky just as yours is doing. I took it back to where I bought it, they installed a new power supply and everything went right back to normal. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 08:26:05 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:26:05 -0500 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1228897565.2099.105.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 18:08 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote: > > What exactly is it, that you would like to achieve with your xorg.conf? > > I would like to use Compiz. My current system gets bogged down. When I > removed Compiz, it regained life. My current computer is a 2.3ghz Pentium 4 > with 1gb ram. When I run Compiz, everything else bogs down, even the mouse > movement and keyboard strikes. > > Is this a common symptom for Compiz users? One meg of ram is probably the problem. And, depending on your video setup, if it's onboard video that shares system ram, you would really be hurting. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Dec 10 08:36:34 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:36:34 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Honestly, it's super easy to install it yourself. One of the few apps that isn't ./configure;make;sudo make install. Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 09:07:32 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:07:32 +0200 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <1228897565.2099.105.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1228897565.2099.105.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812100107v3bf1e4d8if81707ee66e6d818@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Ric Moore : > One meg of ram is probably the problem. And, depending on your video > setup, if it's onboard video that shares system ram, you would really be > hurting. :) Ric > > Ric, I have seen Compiz run smoothly with 512 MB of RAM (Gnome Ubuntu system, not Kubuntu). The machine did have a 256 MB video card, though. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 09:30:29 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:30:29 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> Brendan wrote: > Honestly, it's super easy to install it yourself. One of the few apps that > isn't ./configure;make;sudo make install. > > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from the > site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. > Did you manage to get the filepicker to be KDE instead of OO ugly ones? That actually scared me off the OOo 3... From miron.florea at web.de Wed Dec 10 09:51:52 2008 From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:51:52 +0200 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100107v3bf1e4d8if81707ee66e6d818@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1228897565.2099.105.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <880dece00812100107v3bf1e4d8if81707ee66e6d818@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493F9138.2070401@web.de> On 12/10/2008 11:07 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Ric, I have seen Compiz run smoothly with 512 MB of RAM (Gnome Ubuntu > system, not Kubuntu). The machine did have a 256 MB video card, > though. Same here. I ran gnome+compiz on intrepid on 512MB PC3200 RAM with an old ATI 9200 (128MB) and it was lightning fast. Kwin in KDE4 not that snappy, but still ok. Compiz (when I still used it) always gave me troubles on much faster hardware most likely due to video driver issues. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 11:29:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:29:42 -0500 Subject: EMERGENCY ** SUFFICIENTLY RESOLVED ** In-Reply-To: <1228897140.2099.103.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <493975CC.2000702@sbcglobal.net> <1228897140.2099.103.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200812100629.42677.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > I took it back to where I bought it, they installed a new power supply and everything went right back to normal. You are probably right on track here, Ric. It is my old computer though. I purchased a Power Supply Tester, but it hasn't arrived yet. But another poster suggested the possibility. I think I remember him saying this type of resolution is a part of his work. Anyway, I need to test the PS on the new computer to eliminate that as a possible reason for failure. I also will test the power supply on this machine to see if there are any voltage drops that could cause this kind of problems. Anyway, I remove Compiz and am going to wait to install it in the new computer. I solved, with the help of this fine forum, my problems with kmail and kwallet. This computer works pretty good right now. I am going to wait with format considerations until I get the new computer going. I have some thoughts that my kwallet problem was the guilty party in most of the following stability problems. Since I fixed it, other problems that I did not know might be related have gone away. Thanks so much for your help. Steven From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Wed Dec 10 11:34:10 2008 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:34:10 +0100 Subject: dolphin and bookmarks... ??? Message-ID: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> Hi, Does anyone know of a way to have a bookmarks usable menu in Dolphin ? Like Konqueror's one ? Something that's really usefull, not the useless "places" stuff ? I say useless, because it becomes so if you try to add many (say : 10 ? 20?) bookmarks inthere... I tried to use Konqueror, but for some reason many konqueror features seem to stop working (like copy paste capability... ???) when I open a new tab, or go to my blog ftp url, and so on (and updating files without copy paste in a file manager is somewhat tricky ;) )... Or is there anyway to have subdirectories (or "subplaces") in the "places" bookmarks ? Thanks From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 12:35:26 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:35:26 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. In-Reply-To: <200812092210.38251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <493e03b6.1c50.b7253b90.266713b9@blackpaw.dyndns.org> <200812091905.21317.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812092210.38251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200812100735.26513.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Thanks Gene, I will take your advice. I have so little income, I bought a cheap tester on advice. I hope it works. Steven From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 13:24:34 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:24:34 +0100 Subject: dolphin and bookmarks... ??? In-Reply-To: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> References: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: 2008/12/10 Fred Schaer : > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a way to have a bookmarks usable menu in Dolphin ? > Like Konqueror's one ? > Something that's really usefull, not the useless "places" stuff ? > I say useless, because it becomes so if you try to add many (say : 10 ? > 20?) bookmarks inthere... > > I tried to use Konqueror, but for some reason many konqueror features > seem to stop working (like copy paste capability... ???) when I open a > new tab, or go to my blog ftp url, and so on (and updating files without > copy paste in a file manager is somewhat tricky ;) )... > > Or is there anyway to have subdirectories (or "subplaces") in the > "places" bookmarks ? > > Thanks I have as good as stopped using both Konqueror and Dolphin and do all my file management in Krusader. As a file manager I think it's the best. It has tabs, bookmarks, history, ftp, sftp, preview, CLI and a lot of other handy stuff when manage files. The only thing I miss is a "icon preview" mode. If you don't have do try it you want be disappointed after you learned it. / Jonas From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 13:33:16 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:33:16 +0200 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) Message-ID: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Gene Heskett : > Sorry, the only sub for the digital multimeter would be a _well_ calibrated > oscilloscope. How do you load up the PSU when testing with a mutilmeter? I've caught one bad PSU with a multimeter but I have another one suspect that shows fine on all leads. I suspect that if I could load it somehow I would catch it dropping voltage. What draws 300-500 watts yet is safe enough to plug around the different leads? Five lightbulbs? I don't suppose it would matter that the PSU is DC, but can you tell me otherwise? > Yes, get that install CD back, or get whoever burnt that one to make you > another, then run the memory tester thats on it. Or download 'memtest86', > write it to a floppy with 'dd', set the bios to look at the floppy first and > reboot, it will autorun itself from the floppy. > I would like to stress what another poster said, that memtest should be run at least overnight and 24 hours if possible on slower systems. It performs a _lot_ of tests and each one should be performed mutiple times. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dave at thefletchers.net Wed Dec 10 14:02:20 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:02:20 +0000 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812101402.27995.dave@thefletchers.net> On Wednesday 10 Dec 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How do you load up the PSU when testing with a mutilmeter? I've caught > one bad PSU with a multimeter but I have another one suspect that > shows fine on all leads. I suspect that if I could load it somehow I > would catch it dropping voltage. What draws 300-500 watts yet is safe > enough to plug around the different leads? Five lightbulbs? I don't > suppose it would matter that the PSU is DC, but can you tell me > otherwise? > > We were talking about power supplies and the testing of them a couple of weeks ago. It's not only the accuracy of the output voltages that need to be tested. There is another output from the power supply that is a signal to the motherboard that tells it that all the output voltages are stable, and that it is OK to boot. If this signal is not working (and in my limited experience of faulty power supplies this is the case maybe 50% of the time) then even though the voltages are correct the computer will not boot, because it's being told not to. So, go buy a proper PC power supply tester. They're cheap and well well worth the money. I repeat here the link I provided before:- http://cpc.farnell.com/CS14742/computer-products/product.us0?sku=thermaltake-a235b This is not the same model I have which has gone out of manufacture probably due to RoHS, but I'm sure it will do the job. Mine also has convenient probe access points, in case you still want to poke it with a DVM. Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bpremeaux at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 14:05:35 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:05:35 -0500 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> > How do you load up the PSU when testing with a mutilmeter? I've caught > one bad PSU with a multimeter but I have another one suspect that > shows fine on all leads. I suspect that if I could load it somehow I > would catch it dropping voltage. What draws 300-500 watts yet is safe > enough to plug around the different leads? Five lightbulbs? I don't > suppose it would matter that the PSU is DC, but can you tell me > otherwise? If I had it in the shop, I would get the specifications for each voltage it puts out to determine the maximum current rating for each one. Then with the old ohms law (R=E/I), I would pick up some high wattage resistors (500W) at values slightly higher than the calculated values. This would give me the appropriate load for each voltage that would put me near max current draw. Then I could watch the outputs on a scope (or meter) to see if they start to roll off with load. Barry From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 14:11:30 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:11:30 +0200 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <200812101402.27995.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> <200812101402.27995.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812100611i40955068i7cb6fbbe6a6318ad@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 David Fletcher : > On Wednesday 10 Dec 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> How do you load up the PSU when testing with a mutilmeter? I've caught >> one bad PSU with a multimeter but I have another one suspect that >> shows fine on all leads. I suspect that if I could load it somehow I >> would catch it dropping voltage. What draws 300-500 watts yet is safe >> enough to plug around the different leads? Five lightbulbs? I don't >> suppose it would matter that the PSU is DC, but can you tell me >> otherwise? >> >> > > We were talking about power supplies and the testing of them a couple of weeks > ago. > I will STFA, thanks. > It's not only the accuracy of the output voltages that need to be tested. > There is another output from the power supply that is a signal to the > motherboard that tells it that all the output voltages are stable, and that > it is OK to boot. > > If this signal is not working (and in my limited experience of faulty power > supplies this is the case maybe 50% of the time) then even though the > voltages are correct the computer will not boot, because it's being told not > to. > I never knew this, thanks! > So, go buy a proper PC power supply tester. They're cheap and well well worth > the money. I repeat here the link I provided before:- > http://cpc.farnell.com/CS14742/computer-products/product.us0?sku=thermaltake-a235b > > This is not the same model I have which has gone out of manufacture probably > due to RoHS, but I'm sure it will do the job. Mine also has convenient probe > access points, in case you still want to poke it with a DVM. > > Dave > Thanks, I will look into a dedicated tool. Take care. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 14:14:41 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:14:41 +0200 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Barry Premeaux : >> How do you load up the PSU when testing with a mutilmeter? I've caught >> one bad PSU with a multimeter but I have another one suspect that >> shows fine on all leads. I suspect that if I could load it somehow I >> would catch it dropping voltage. What draws 300-500 watts yet is safe >> enough to plug around the different leads? Five lightbulbs? I don't >> suppose it would matter that the PSU is DC, but can you tell me >> otherwise? > > If I had it in the shop, I would get the specifications for each > voltage it puts out to determine the maximum current rating for each > one. That's usually printed on a sticker on the side of the PSU. > Then with the old ohms law (R=E/I), I would pick up some high > wattage resistors (500W) at values slightly higher than the calculated > values. This would give me the appropriate load for each voltage that > would put me near max current draw. Then I could watch the outputs on > a scope (or meter) to see if they start to roll off with load. > I might try that some time, but I wouldn't take the thing to max load, maybe only 50% or so. I have a lot of resistors lying around that I could experiment on. I still remember phone numbers as coloured bands! (obligatory xkcd referrence in every OT thread) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 10 15:07:43 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:07:43 -0400 Subject: KDE tuneup Message-ID: <1793521.HiJ4SdJ7OJ@cedar.serverforest.com> I've been struggling with a horribly slow (at times) system ever since installing Intrepid and KDE 4.1. I started by removing compiz, as I couldn't care less about it and it often appeared in top (though not _at_ the top). No noticeable effect. Today, I was trying to find a specific message in knode in the Ubuntu- users list and the system was grinding to a crawl while kontact used 95% of the CPU. I discovered that at some time I'd turned off message expiry (pretty silly really, since I don't directly access news servers - but do it through a local leafnode server, which _does_ expire messages). Amazingly, running expiry on all my newsgroup folders seems to have spend knode/kontact enormously, and the system hasn't slowed since. -- derek From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Dec 10 15:32:34 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:32:34 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812101032.34334.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008, O. Sinclair wrote: > Brendan wrote: > > Honestly, it's super easy to install it yourself. One of the few apps > > that isn't ./configure;make;sudo make install. > > > > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from > > the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. > > Did you manage to get the filepicker to be KDE instead of OO ugly ones? > That actually scared me off the OOo 3... I did not try that one. The file picker in KDE 4 is not my fave yet...close, but twitchy still. From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 15:34:13 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: KDE tuneup In-Reply-To: <1793521.HiJ4SdJ7OJ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1793521.HiJ4SdJ7OJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/10 Derek Broughton : > I've been struggling with a horribly slow (at times) system ever since > installing Intrepid and KDE 4.1. > > I started by removing compiz, as I couldn't care less about it and it > often appeared in top (though not _at_ the top). No noticeable effect. > Why would you install compiz in Intrepid when Kwin has desktop effects or do you mean that? One other thing that takes resources is Nepomuk and Strigi. I deactivated them as i don't know how to use them and there don't seem to be a tool to use them. And today i discovered that myth-backend constant accessing my /var disk giving a constant load over 1. The programs taking most CPU for me is: firefox npviewer.bin X Kwin plasma artsd knotify4 / Jonas From jordi at cdmon.com Wed Dec 10 16:16:12 2008 From: jordi at cdmon.com (Jordi Moles Blanco) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:16:12 +0100 Subject: lifeview pci trio (saa7134) not working through diseqc anymore Message-ID: <493FEB4C.9060103@cdmon.com> Hi everyone, i've got 2 satellite dishes home and a diseqc 2.0. i've been using ubuntu/kubuntu for quite a while now but until hardy came out, i couldn't use my "lifeview pci trio" pci card at all, as i want it to work throught diseqc, to get channels from both dishes, so i kept going back to windows, unfortunately. The thing is that my whole setup works, as i've got a machine with dual boot and window xp installed on one partition. Needless to say that i can , with prodvb, altdvb, etc, tune both satellites through diseqc. so... when hardy came out i decided to try again... i downloaded the cd, i386 version and installed. I almost went crazy when i launched kaffeine and i was able to tune channels from both satellites... almost out of the box!!! i hadn't been able to do this in earlier versions (well... a part from having to call modprobe saa7134 front_end=1 to use the satellite chip) so... i searched for all the channels with kaffeine and i started watching channels without any problem. Then, i had the bad idea of doing apt-get update apt-get upgrade i didn't get any error message at all... but when i ran kaffeine again..... no channels could be viewed. Then i started to go crazy trying to get it working again. I deleted the whole list of channels and tried to tune again... with no luck... i would only get channels from one satellite, that on on switch 1 in the diseqc. After 2 days i loaded windows to see if i had broken something... but i hadn't, everything was working fine there. then i loaded the old kernel, linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic, then the updated one again linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic then i tried to go back to an earlier version of kaffeine (just in case) i'm using 0.8.6-0ubuntu8.3 and i went back to 0.8.6-0ubuntu8.1 and even 0.8.6-0ubuntu8 no luck with all that. and then i found out how to scan channels from command line, and i saw that no matter what switch you tell saa7134 to scan on, i will always go to "switch 1" on the diseqc. here's what i got from scanning........ switch 1 (astra 28.2E) ******** scan -s 1 /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-28.2E >>> tune to: 10729:v:1:22000 0x0000 0x206c: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- E4+1 (running) 0x0000 0x2071: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- E4 (running) 0x0000 0x2077: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2078: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2079: pmt_pid 0x010f BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x207a: pmt_pid 0x0107 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x207b: pmt_pid 0x0108 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running, scrambled) 0x0000 0x207c: pmt_pid 0x010a BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2094: pmt_pid 0x010c BSkyB -- More4 (running) 0x0000 0x20c5: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- 8389 (running, scrambled) 0x0000 0x23f7: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- c4 l +1 (running) 0x0000 0x23f8: pmt_pid 0x0109 BSkyB -- e4 (running) ******** switch 2 (astra 19E) ******** scan -s 2 /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E >>> tune to: 10788:v:2:22000 0x0000 0x283d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 W Mids (running) 0x0000 0x283e: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 N West (running) 0x0000 0x283f: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 1 Yrks&Lin (running) 0x0000 0x2840: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC 1 Yorks (running) 0x0000 0x2841: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- BBC 1 E Mids (running) 0x0000 0x2842: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- BBC 1 East (E) (running) 0x0000 0x2851: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- ETV5 (running) ******** And this is the problem!!! on Astra-19.2 there's no "BBC 1 W Mids". It's getting signal from switch 1 and scanning from the correct transponders list on /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E And it doesn't matter if i run "scan -s 1" or "scan -s 2" or "scan -s 3", it will always scan from "switch 1" through kaffeine i get to the same point, i get a scan on swith 1 only. is this a bug? has anyone experienced this? is there a warkaround for this? how could i get it working in the first place? what could i break by upgrading the system? Please, let me know if i can provide any further information. here are my system details: ******** # lsb_release -rd Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 Release: 8.04 ********** i've looked through the system logs and i can't find anything, nothing related to diseqc or kaffeine, there seem to be no errors with those words. Thanks. From jordi at cdmon.com Wed Dec 10 16:18:34 2008 From: jordi at cdmon.com (Jordi Moles Blanco) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:18:34 +0100 Subject: lifeview pci trio (saa7134) not working through diseqc anymore Message-ID: <493FEBDA.2040105@cdmon.com> Hi everyone, i've got 2 satellite dishes home and a diseqc 2.0. i've been using ubuntu/kubuntu for quite a while now but until hardy came out, i couldn't use my "lifeview pci trio" pci card at all, as i want it to work throught diseqc, to get channels from both dishes, so i kept going back to windows, unfortunately. The thing is that my whole setup works, as i've got a machine with dual boot and window xp installed on one partition. Needless to say that i can , with prodvb, altdvb, etc, tune both satellites through diseqc. so... when hardy came out i decided to try again... i downloaded the cd, i386 version and installed. I almost went crazy when i launched kaffeine and i was able to tune channels from both satellites... almost out of the box!!! i hadn't been able to do this in earlier versions (well... a part from having to call modprobe saa7134 front_end=1 to use the satellite chip) so... i searched for all the channels with kaffeine and i started watching channels without any problem. Then, i had the bad idea of doing apt-get update apt-get upgrade i didn't get any error message at all... but when i ran kaffeine again..... no channels could be viewed. Then i started to go crazy trying to get it working again. I deleted the whole list of channels and tried to tune again... with no luck... i would only get channels from one satellite, that on on switch 1 in the diseqc. After 2 days i loaded windows to see if i had broken something... but i hadn't, everything was working fine there. then i loaded the old kernel, linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic, then the updated one again linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic then i tried to go back to an earlier version of kaffeine (just in case) i'm using 0.8.6-0ubuntu8.3 and i went back to 0.8.6-0ubuntu8.1 and even 0.8.6-0ubuntu8 no luck with all that. and then i found out how to scan channels from command line, and i saw that no matter what switch you tell saa7134 to scan on, i will always go to "switch 1" on the diseqc. here's what i got from scanning........ switch 1 (astra 28.2E) ******** scan -s 1 /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-28.2E >>> tune to: 10729:v:1:22000 0x0000 0x206c: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- E4+1 (running) 0x0000 0x2071: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- E4 (running) 0x0000 0x2077: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2078: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2079: pmt_pid 0x010f BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x207a: pmt_pid 0x0107 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x207b: pmt_pid 0x0108 BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running, scrambled) 0x0000 0x207c: pmt_pid 0x010a BSkyB -- Channel 4 +1 (running) 0x0000 0x2094: pmt_pid 0x010c BSkyB -- More4 (running) 0x0000 0x20c5: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- 8389 (running, scrambled) 0x0000 0x23f7: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- c4 l +1 (running) 0x0000 0x23f8: pmt_pid 0x0109 BSkyB -- e4 (running) ******** switch 2 (astra 19E) ******** scan -s 2 /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E >>> tune to: 10788:v:2:22000 0x0000 0x283d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 W Mids (running) 0x0000 0x283e: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 N West (running) 0x0000 0x283f: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 1 Yrks&Lin (running) 0x0000 0x2840: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC 1 Yorks (running) 0x0000 0x2841: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- BBC 1 E Mids (running) 0x0000 0x2842: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- BBC 1 East (E) (running) 0x0000 0x2851: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- ETV5 (running) ******** And this is the problem!!! on Astra-19.2 there's no "BBC 1 W Mids". It's getting signal from switch 1 and scanning from the correct transponders list on /home/servidor/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E And it doesn't matter if i run "scan -s 1" or "scan -s 2" or "scan -s 3", it will always scan from "switch 1" through kaffeine i get to the same point, i get a scan on swith 1 only. is this a bug? has anyone experienced this? is there a warkaround for this? how could i get it working in the first place? what could i break by upgrading the system? Please, let me know if i can provide any further information. here are my system details: ******** # lsb_release -rd Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 Release: 8.04 ********** i've looked through the system logs and i can't find anything, nothing related to diseqc or kaffeine, there seem to be no errors with those words. Thanks. From bpremeaux at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 16:24:48 2008 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:24:48 -0500 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0812100824q5a6125c3g5af1805a690bdb33@mail.gmail.com> Slapping load resistors on it is a quick way to do some basic testing. But, a dedicated PS tester would do a far better job. If you have the resources, and want to have one around for the future, that would be the way to go. Barry From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 17:18:49 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:18:49 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 09:36:34 Brendan wrote: > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from > the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. You mean from http://download.openoffice.org/? -- lanzen From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Dec 10 17:43:22 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:43:22 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008, lanzen wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 09:36:34 Brendan wrote: > > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from > > the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. > > You mean from http://download.openoffice.org/? > > -- > lanzen Yes... works like a charm... From hvontres at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 17:49:00 2008 From: hvontres at gmail.com (Hans Henry von Tresckow) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:49:00 -0800 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: ---- trimed ------ > I might try that some time, but I wouldn't take the thing to max load, > maybe only 50% or so. I have a lot of resistors lying around that I > could experiment on. I still remember phone numbers as coloured bands! > (obligatory xkcd referrence in every OT thread) You forgot the link... : http://xkcd.com/227/ -- Henry von Tresckow (hvontres) From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 17:50:27 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:50:27 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812101850.27742.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 18:43:22 Bruce Marshall wrote: > Yes...   works like a charm... Thanks. Just downloaded. Now I'll have a look. -- lanzen From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed Dec 10 19:06:06 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:06:06 +0100 Subject: Sound problem (Acer 6920 with Kubuntu Intrepid) In-Reply-To: <200811271956.35212.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200811261557.02530.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200811270908.43048.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200811271956.35212.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <200812102006.06956.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> snip.... > > > Hi Karl. Everything above appears to be ok. All modules are loaded, and > > > the soundcard is detected. Looking in /etc/group my user name is not on > > > the audio group, and yet the sounds are working for me. it may be worth > > > adding your user name to the audio group in /etc/group, which should > > > look like this, as below. Just change the user name, which is mine. > > > > > > audio: x: 29: djmons > > > > ==> done, but no result. > > > > > Then logout, and login, or reboot, and see if anything has changed. > > > > > > You can also download a shellscript from the link below. When run this > > > will pick up info about your machine, and all sound related stuff. As > > > default it will upload it to a website, just post back the link to the > > > site in your reply. > > > > > > http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh > > > > > > Using save as, save the script as alsa-info.sh, and make it executable. > > > Cd to where the script is saved in Konsole, and run it as. > > > ./alsa-info.sh > > > > > > Just paste the link to the website, where it's been uploaded to in your > > > reply. > > > > > > I'll post the info to the alsa development list, or you can if you're > > > subscribed, and we'll see if we can get your sounds working. > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > Nigel, > > The ALSA information is located at > > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=be2b03e6019904df43e68328594bb1b9e6d95f3 > >a > > > > (ps: i'm not subscribed to the als list) > > > > Regards, Karl > > Hi Karl. > > Thanks for providing the link above. There's a lot of usefull info provided > when running that script, but I can't see anything that shows itself as a > problem with your sound not working. > > You say that alsamixer has everything unmuted, and sliders like Master, > PCM, Front, and CD are up. Have a look also in Kmix. On Intrepid, it > doesn't open from the K menu for some strange reason, but if you click on > the speaker icon in KDE's panel, there is a mixer button, which displays > kmix. check that nothing is muted here, and that all sliders are up. > > I've often seen problems with kmix, when it has the "restore volumes on > login" box checked, but that was on earlier distros than Intrepid. What > happened is that when booting up Alsa was started, and alsactrl restore was > run, which restored the alsamixer settings from when you last shutdown. Now > you login to KDE, and Kmix (if the "restore volumes on login" box is > checked) resets the Alsamixer settings, to the settings that were in Kmix > when you first installed Intrepid. I don't think that this is your problem, > as I didn't have this problem on my Kubuntu Intrepid install, but is worth > a look. > > You could try changing the options line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. > > Remove the model=acer-aspire bit, and replace it so the options line shows > as below. > > options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 ==> I've changed this and rebooted... No sound at all... > This will only use the first codec on the list, and in your case ALC889. > > I doubt if there will be any changes with your sound problems, but one > never knows. > > As you see when receiving this reply, I have changed the subject line, > which may bring someone else in, who also has an Acer 6920, and maybe has > resolved any sound problems. > > Hopefully we will get your sounds working. > > Nigel. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From art.alexion at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 19:22:40 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:22:40 -0500 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <1228896424.2099.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200812041616.20379.art.alexion@gmail.com> <1228896424.2099.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200812101422.47937.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 3:07:03 am Ric Moore wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 16:16 -0500, Art Alexion wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 5:10:46 am Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > > Does anybody out there use Amarok, every now and again mine plays the > > > first few bars of a song and > > > then skips to the next. Hitting help just tells me the help page for > > > Amarok isn't installed, ditto help centre. > > > Any clues, can't see anything daft in the settings. > > > brian > > > > I think there is a bug in the Xine library.  It will stop doing that if > > you disable cross-fading in the settings. > > > > Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback. > > Do you use a delay setting?? I've diabled crossfading, but it still goes > bananas with flash from Youtube Wait, are you talking about Amarok or a browser, or some other program? The setting I recommended only works for Amarok playback. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Dec 10 19:33:01 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:33:01 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101426.16086.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200812101426.16086.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812101433.01270.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008, Art Alexion wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 3:36:34 am Brendan wrote: > > Honestly, it's super easy to install it yourself. One of the few apps > > that isn't ./configure;make;sudo make install. > > > > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from > > the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. > > The difference is that the OOo packages install to /opt alongside 2.4 from > Kubuntu. The PPA packages replace the Ubuntu 2.4. Yep, and there's no reason to go back to 2.4, so there isn't a downside. You can always uninstall them and go back to the Intrepid stream. From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed Dec 10 19:31:40 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:31:40 +0200 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router Message-ID: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> I've been playing with a spare wireless router that we have. It's a TP-LINK TL-WR542G. It works pretty good and I initially set it up using an ESSID of 'Nigels' and encryption using WAP. I wanted to see what would happen if I unchecked the 'Broadcast ESSID' option (I thought that it would be 'hidden' - for extra security). The trouble was/is that KNetworkManager doesn't seem to 'refresh' its list of available access points. Even when I changed to 'name' (ESSID) of the router to something else, KNetworkManager still showed it as the original ESSID - even when I had unplugged the router, KNetworkManager was still showing it as available! How does one 'refresh' KNetworkManager? Interestingly I did a 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' from a console and the router showed up (Cell 02): nigel at laptop:~$ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1D:7E:BD:79:AA ESSID:"linksys" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-39 dBm Noise level:-18 dBm Encryption key:off Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s Cell 02 - Address: 00:19:E0:F7:FF:14 ESSID:"" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-47 dBm Noise level:-15 dBm IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (2) : TKIP CCMP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK Preauthentication Supported Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s 12 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s How can I get KNetworkManager to refresh it's list of 'active' access points? And how can I connect to one that doesn't show on the list? I did try manually accessing it, but without an ESSID KNetworkManager won't allow me to continue with the connection wizard. Which leads to the next question: If iwlist can see the router, is there a command line option/app for connecting to an access point/router that iwlist 'sees' even if it isn't broadcasting its ESSID? Blessings, Nigel -- From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 20:17:03 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:17:03 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.2 and the Desktop Message-ID: <494023BF.3090007@gmail.com> not sure if it was in KDE 4.1, but i just noticed it in KDE 4.2, in appearance settings, i can choose the desktop to show me the contents of the Desktop folder, and the desktop will then behave like in KDE3 -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 20:43:54 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:43:54 +0200 Subject: Testing PSU with multimeter (Was: Problems with kwin and kwallet.) In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00812100533j326d5894id8ac1c36ee4cf468@mail.gmail.com> <6c6b0bfc0812100605p5c46f474qe096479450fb785@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812100614l4d63c722s80fe6680f9a0464f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812101243n7c3d7208k14f300418029ab3a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Hans Henry von Tresckow : > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > ---- trimed ------ > >> I might try that some time, but I wouldn't take the thing to max load, >> maybe only 50% or so. I have a lot of resistors lying around that I >> could experiment on. I still remember phone numbers as coloured bands! >> (obligatory xkcd referrence in every OT thread) > > You forgot the link... : > > http://xkcd.com/227/ > Shouldn't that be: http://xkcd.com/red,red,purple/ -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 20:57:50 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:57:50 -0500 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. Message-ID: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> Someone helped me with this before, but it hasn't happened in a while, and I forgot how to correct it. Please advise. Also, could you explain to me why it does this? Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 21:03:09 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:03:09 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.2 and the Desktop In-Reply-To: <494023BF.3090007@gmail.com> References: <494023BF.3090007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812101303g667f2d17y409ec890e809d89d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Willy K. Hamra : > not sure if it was in KDE 4.1, but i just noticed it in KDE 4.2, in > appearance settings, i can choose the desktop to show me the contents of the > Desktop folder, and the desktop will then behave like in KDE3 > It was one of the most requested features. I hadn't noticed this in 4.2, but thanks for pointing it out! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Wed Dec 10 21:08:25 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:08:25 +0100 Subject: screensaver does not work/Amarok does not start Message-ID: <200812102208.25988.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid ELF header how is this solved? removing and reinstalling amarok did not work. First I installed the MVIDIA driver from the Asus site, because I installed an 9500 GT 512 PCI-e as my on board video was not powerful enough for my new 26 inch wide screen. worked fine, after booting in recovery without X and on runlevel 3. Or should I have installed it via Synaptic? If so, which package should I choose. Problems occured when I was asked by Vbox 2.2 to in stall the vboxdrv kernel module. After a reboot I could no longer start X. I removed vboxdrv again with modprobe -r. After a recovery boot and the xfix menu choice I could start X again in vesa mode, except for above error. -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From charioteer7 at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 21:08:55 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:08:55 -0500 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. In-Reply-To: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <646a014e0812101308o4ce93772ve53d60111df46c2e@mail.gmail.com> Steven: You have perhaps inadvertently hit the 'insert' key on your keyboard? Hit it again and this should stop, unless something else entirely is going on. Cheers, Geoffrey Bays On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > Someone helped me with this before, but it hasn't happened in a while, > and I forgot how to correct it. Please advise. Also, could you explain > to me why it does this? > > Steven > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From rlp1938 at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 21:09:38 2008 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:09:38 +0700 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. In-Reply-To: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340812101309h2489c8dfu292fad5020bc069a@mail.gmail.com> Steven, I don't know what application you are running when this happens but I'd bet that it has a small bar at the bottom which shows the text 'OVR'. You must have struck the Insert key. If you strike it again the 'OVR' will become 'INS'. You can toggle between overlay mode and insert mode by striking the Insert key successively. On my keyboard that key is in the cluster of keys between the QWERTY section and the number pad. Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead! From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 21:12:42 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:12:42 +1000 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. In-Reply-To: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812110712.46865.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:57:50 am Steven Vollom wrote: > Someone helped me with this before, but it hasn't happened in a while, > and I forgot how to correct it. Please advise. Also, could you explain > to me why it does this? You have insert mode turned off (ie overwrite mode turned on). The "Insert" key toggles it, so just hit "Insert" to turn it back on. Cheers, -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Dec 10 21:18:20 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:18:20 +0000 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4940321C.7030206@btinternet.com> > > I think there is a bug in the Xine library. It will stop doing that if you > > disable cross-fading in the settings. > > > > Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback. > Do you use a delay setting?? I've diabled crossfading, but it still goes bananas with flash from Youtube. I've got crossover duration set to 1000ms and fade out to 1000ms. I did this because amarok started each track abrubtly a couple of notes into the track at least this softened the intro. Some-one else advised me to change 'default player' from /dev/cdrom to /dev/whatever_drive_your_music_directory_is_on(/dev/sda in my case) - so far this seems to have worked, haven't had problems with youtube, do you have flash10 installed? brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 21:24:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:24:42 -0500 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. ** RESOLVED ** In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812101308o4ce93772ve53d60111df46c2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> <646a014e0812101308o4ce93772ve53d60111df46c2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4940339A.6070403@sbcglobal.net> > You have perhaps inadvertently hit the 'insert' key on your keyboard? > Dear Geoffrey, Back when a brain wasn't required and I was using Windows XP, I had this selfsame problem. I suppose I hit the insert key then. About 15 years now, I have fought with that problem, sometimes rewriting a page of data. Sometimes I would find an open space at the document, type the correction, cut and highlight the place in question and paste in the word. In Windows no one knew what I was talking about, of course, so I never even wondered about pressing the wrong key. You can't believe how irritating that problem has been. I only hope I can remember the fix. Memory problems. Anyway, I finally stopped laughing at myself. I appreciate this so much. Laughing again. Perhaps you could tell me the proper use and need for the insert key. I have never used it, even noticed it. Thanks friend. Steven > > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 21:29:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:29:56 -0500 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. In-Reply-To: <200812110712.46865.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> <200812110712.46865.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494034D4.8010003@sbcglobal.net> As I am sure you know, a brain isn't required in Windows, so for about 15 years I suffered with that problem, unable to find the answer. I already answered a similar post, but it makes me laugh. Sometimes it worked OK, so I must have hit the wrong button then, and it corrected the problem. I am laughing again, because, I can't tell you what an annoyance that has been over the years, and how happy I would be when I screwed up unknowingly and corrected the problem. And I still don't know what the insert key is used for. I am going to google it now. Sorry for the waste of your time. Of course, thanks! Steven > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 21:32:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:59 -0500 Subject: When I type in a correction, the letters I type in, eat the following letters. In-Reply-To: <8f6eb7340812101309h2489c8dfu292fad5020bc069a@mail.gmail.com> References: <49402D4E.7030005@sbcglobal.net> <8f6eb7340812101309h2489c8dfu292fad5020bc069a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4940358B.9000807@sbcglobal.net> Dear Bob, All the time, 15 years or so, I was operating Windows, I could not get an answer to that problem, so for years, including the 3 years I have been using Linux, I have suffered that problem. I have never used the Home or End buttons either, so I am going to look into them now. Thanks for the help. Steven From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 10 21:38:02 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:38:02 +0100 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router In-Reply-To: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > And how can I connect to one that doesn't show on the list? Right click on the knetworkmanager icon. Select "connect to other network" (or similar wording) and enter network name and encryption details. Then click "connect". At least that's how it works here (Kubuntu 8.04). Nils From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Wed Dec 10 23:01:50 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:01:50 -0300 Subject: RTL8187B In-Reply-To: References: <491DFAA7.2060106@swbell.net><200811141850.27618.bmarsh@bmarsh.com><491E2270.4030103@swbell.net> Message-ID: <9528C4035C1747B396550D31CDC1113E@NoEsHisterica> Hi everyone ! I have a wireless onboard in my notebook olivetti 530. the chipset is RTL8187B I boot with live cd of Kubuntu 8.10- and I can see all wireless networks, but I can´t connect. I try with ndiswrapper, and no works. its the same, can see all networks, but I can´t connect with any network. somebody can make it works? please Help me. best regards Javier Ramirez __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 10 22:13:41 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:13:41 -0500 Subject: Partition mounting problem. Message-ID: <200812101713.42166.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I have three problems in my partition table. First: Disk&Filesystems, #2 partition 1.0kb shows (/media/floppy0) as the mount point. I don't know how it got in that location. When I partitioned the drive, it was located in the list with the Burner and the Optical Disk at the bottom of the Disk and Filesystems. What was there originally was a 1.0kb partition that the computer created, contents of which I do not know. Under Device I was listed as /dev/sda2. Second: I have a partition that contains ntfs. I do not have any Windows products on my computer, that I know of. I did not create an ntfs partition, yet it is there. sda8 Third I have a permissions problem with sdb5. The following is my fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # The following is an example. Please see fstab(5) for further details. # Please refer to mount(1) for a complete description of mount options. # # Format: # # # dump(8) uses the field to determine which file systems needOnOn # to be dumped. fsck(8) uses the column to determine which file # systems need to be checked--the root file system should have a 1 in # this field, other file systems a 2, and any file systems that should # not be checked (such as MS-DOS or NFS file systems) a 0. # # The `sw' option indicates that the swap partition is to be activated # with `swapon -a'. /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 # The `bsdgroups' option indicates that the file system is to be mounted # with BSD semantics (files inherit the group ownership of the directoryOn # in which they live). `ro' can be used to mount a file system read-only.O n Wednesday 10 December 2008 9:21:06 am you wrote: /dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 0 1 /dev/hda5 /home ext2 defaults 0 2 /dev/hda6 /var ext2 defaults 0 2 /dev/hda7 /usr ext2 defaults,ro 0 2 /dev/hda8 /usr/local ext2 defaults,bsdgroups 0 2 # The `noauto' option indicates that the file system should not be mounted # with `mount -a'. `user' indicates that normal users are allowed to mount # the file system. /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy minix defaults,noauto,user 0 0 /dev/fd1 /floppy minix defaults,noauto,user 0 0 # NFS file systems: server:/export/usr /usr nfs defaults 0 0 # proc file system: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 I would include a screen print of my Disk&Filesystems, but it is too large 250kb. Can you see any of my problem in fstab, I do not understand the data yet? What in the way of information can I provide that would help you help me? Thanks, Steven From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 10 22:39:56 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:39:56 -0500 Subject: filenames Message-ID: <200812101739.56870.d.mcglone@att.net> Hi All, I am using CVS on my computers, and I need to create the CVS folder on a seperate partition that all my computers can access, but for some reason when I create a CVS folder on that partition, it will not make "CVSROOT" it keeps making it all lowercase letters instead of all caps. I tried renaming the folder but dolphin and konqueror say that the file already exsists. I've even did a test and created a folder in $HOME with ALL CAPS and when I move it to the partition, it automatically switches to all lowercase. anyone know what's up with this? Thanks, -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From ender8282 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 10 23:03:37 2008 From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:03:37 -0700 Subject: Partition mounting problem. In-Reply-To: <200812101713.42166.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812101713.42166.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49404AC9.7090005@yahoo.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > First: Disk&Filesystems, #2 partition 1.0kb shows (/media/floppy0) as the > mount point. I don't know how it got in that location. When I partitioned > the drive, it was located in the list with the Burner and the Optical Disk at > the bottom of the Disk and Filesystems. What was there originally was a > 1.0kb partition that the computer created, contents of which I do not know. > Under Device I was listed as /dev/sda2. > When you mount the floppy disk it gets mounted to /media/floppy. When you don't have a mounted floppy this is an empty directory. This is normal. I am unclear what the problem is. > Second: I have a partition that contains ntfs. I do not have any Windows > products on my computer, that I know of. I did not create an ntfs partition, > yet it is there. sda8 > How do you know this? From your fstab it looks like you have only ext2 filesystems on your hda. What version of *buntu are you running? My 7.10 install has these listed as > Third I have a permissions problem with sdb5. > Can you elaborate on this a little more? Where is sdb5 mounted. It might be mounted ready only? > The following is my fstab: > [snip] > /dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 0 1 > /dev/hda5 /home ext2 defaults 0 2 > /dev/hda6 /var ext2 defaults 0 2 > /dev/hda7 /usr ext2 defaults,ro 0 2 > /dev/hda8 /usr/local ext2 defaults,bsdgroups 0 2 > > Is this really the fstab for the system in question? You refer to sda but this only has entries for hda. -- -john To be or not to be, that is the question 2b || !2b (0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010) 0b11000100 || !0b11000100 0b11000100 || 0b00111011 0b11111111 255, that is the answer. From ender8282 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 10 23:12:45 2008 From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:12:45 -0700 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router In-Reply-To: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <49404CED.7010406@yahoo.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Which leads to the next question: If iwlist can see the router, is there a command line > option/app for connecting to an access point/router that iwlist 'sees' even if it isn't > broadcasting its ESSID? > > I don't remember where I found it but somewhere on ubuntu forum there is a post about command line approaches for connecting your network. Here is the script that I wrote to connect for me. #!/bin/sh down(){ sudo ifconfig eth1 down sudo dhclient -r eth1 } up(){ sudo ifconfig eth1 up sudo dhclient eth1 } case "$1" in home) down sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'HIPPOWIRELESS' key XXXXXXXX mode managed up ;; work) down sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'NOAO-Tucson' key XXXXXXXX mode managed up ;; dock) down sudo dhclient eth0 ;; *) down sudo iwconfig eth1 essid ${1} up ;; esac exit 0 In short 'connect home' takes down my wireless (eth1) in case it was up, configures the essid and key to use, then brings it back up, and requests a ip address (DHCP). You can also look at the man pages for iwconfig, ifconfig and dhclient. -- -john To be or not to be, that is the question 2b || !2b (0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010) 0b11000100 || !0b11000100 0b11000100 || 0b00111011 0b11111111 255, that is the answer. From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 11 01:22:31 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:22:31 -0500 Subject: filenames (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: <200812101739.56870.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812101739.56870.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812102022.31107.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 5:39:56 pm David McGlone wrote: > Hi All, > > I am using CVS on my computers, and I need to create the CVS folder on a > seperate partition that all my computers can access, but for some reason > when I create a CVS folder on that partition, it will not make "CVSROOT" it > keeps making it all lowercase letters instead of all caps. I tried renaming > the folder but dolphin and konqueror say that the file already exsists. > > I've even did a test and created a folder in $HOME with ALL CAPS and when I > move it to the partition, it automatically switches to all lowercase. > anyone know what's up with this? I thought cervisia wouldn't work with a repository if the CVSROOT file wasn't all caps. Turns out that wasn't the case. I was actually working on the wrong files in the wrong directory. (What a blonde moment for me!) -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 01:53:48 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:53:48 -0500 Subject: Amarok In-Reply-To: <4940321C.7030206@btinternet.com> References: <4940321C.7030206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1228960428.2099.159.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 21:18 +0000, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > I think there is a bug in the Xine library. It will stop doing that if you > > > disable cross-fading in the settings. > > > > > > Settings > Configure Amarok > Playback. > > > > Do you use a delay setting?? I've diabled crossfading, but it still goes > bananas with flash from Youtube. > > I've got crossover duration set to 1000ms and fade out to 1000ms. I did this > because amarok started each track abrubtly a couple of notes into the track > at least this softened the intro. > Some-one else advised me to change 'default player' from /dev/cdrom > to /dev/whatever_drive_your_music_directory_is_on(/dev/sda in my case) > - so far this seems to have worked, haven't had problems with youtube, > do you have flash10 installed? yes, it's mostly Amarok that I have this problem with. My flash10 problem I'll open on a new thread. Thanks! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 01:59:21 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:59:21 -0500 Subject: Cannot use Compiz In-Reply-To: <880dece00812100107v3bf1e4d8if81707ee66e6d818@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812071012.00527.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812081808.27824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1228897565.2099.105.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <880dece00812100107v3bf1e4d8if81707ee66e6d818@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1228960761.2099.165.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 11:07 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/10 Ric Moore : > > One meg of ram is probably the problem. And, depending on your video > > setup, if it's onboard video that shares system ram, you would really be > > hurting. :) Ric > > > > > > Ric, I have seen Compiz run smoothly with 512 MB of RAM (Gnome Ubuntu > system, not Kubuntu). The machine did have a 256 MB video card, > though. > > -- > Dotan Cohen That's right, Dotan. What I was figuring was that with 1 gig of memory (not a meg .... my bad!) shared with a video chipset onboard, you'd have to allocate at least 256 MB to it. So, you're short that much memory for the system. Myself, since I don't use laptops, have always been shy of sharing ram. I think Compiz is nifty and cool, but I don't use it myself. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 11 02:16:24 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:16:24 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. Message-ID: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Many times an email goes to the outbox with the statement that there was trouble connecting to the server. To resend, I have been clicking on the outbox, double clicking on the email and resending. It always works the second time. Is there a way to have kmail resend until it succeeds? I couldn't find anything in configuration. It doesn't happen every time, however way too often. It acts like a Microsoft product, 5 clicks to get a single thing done. Steven From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Thu Dec 11 06:15:08 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:15:08 +0200 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router In-Reply-To: <200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> <200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4940AFEC.2090009@prayingforisrael.net> Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> And how can I connect to one that doesn't show on the list? > > Right click on the knetworkmanager icon. Select "connect to other network" > (or similar wording) and enter network name and encryption details. Then > click "connect". At least that's how it works here (Kubuntu 8.04). > > > Nils > Hi Nils, I tried that already but without the network name (essid) it won't let me click the 'Connect' button. Also if I put in the essid name (even though the router isn't broadcasting it -- 'don't broadcast essid' option) then KnetworkManager tries but gives up after about 45 seconds with a can't connect error. This is 8.04 Blessings, Nigel -- From jacobosmeke at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 06:35:27 2008 From: jacobosmeke at gmail.com (jacobo smeke) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:35:27 -0600 Subject: please help Message-ID: hi, i wonder if you can help me out with this problem. the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to install kubuntu. i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, and formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it worked perfectly. then i took the disk and connected it on the mac, but im still having the same problem. when i turn on the computer, it goes to a grey background and shows an icon with a question mark, the icon is like the finder face. then it show some text that says "to continue booting, type mac-boot the prees return. to shut down, type shut-down press return". i cant get into kubuntu, i searched the problem and i found that is the pram, and i reset it and in didnt work either. could you help me with this???? thank you i would wait for your answers -- yours sincerely Jacobo Smeke M. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 11 07:11:20 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:11:20 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu on Mac G3 [was: please help] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812110811.20397.kassube@gmx.net> jacobo smeke wrote: > the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to install > kubuntu. > i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, and > formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it worked > perfectly. then i took the disk and connected it on the mac, but im > still having the same problem. IIRC the Mac G3 has a PowerPC CPU. Then it can't work with the i386 version of Kubuntu. You would need a Kubuntu version for PowerPC but I don't know if that exists. Nils From olegb at omgwtf.dk Thu Dec 11 07:18:57 2008 From: olegb at omgwtf.dk (Ole Guldberg Jensen) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:18:57 +0100 Subject: please help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <229873f80812102318p209b9025vb267714e7935f9d1@mail.gmail.com> the G3 has a powerpc CPU and (k)ubuntu doesnt support powerpc. Try another distro that does support ppc, like debian or fedora. 2008/12/11 jacobo smeke > hi, > i wonder if you can help me out with this problem. > the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to install > kubuntu. > i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, and > formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it worked perfectly. > then i took the disk and connected it on the mac, but im still having the > same problem. > when i turn on the computer, it goes to a grey background and shows an icon > with a question mark, the icon is like the finder face. then it show some > text that says "to continue booting, type mac-boot the prees return. > to shut down, type shut-down press return". > i cant get into kubuntu, i searched the problem and i found that is the > pram, and i reset it and in didnt work either. > > could you help me with this???? > > thank you > i would wait for your answers > > -- > yours sincerely > > Jacobo Smeke M. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 11 07:27:16 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:27:16 +0100 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router In-Reply-To: <4940AFEC.2090009@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> <200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net> <4940AFEC.2090009@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812110827.16873.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> And how can I connect to one that doesn't show on the list? > > > > Right click on the knetworkmanager icon. Select "connect to other > > network" (or similar wording) and enter network name and encryption > > details. Then click "connect". At least that's how it works here > > (Kubuntu 8.04). > > I tried that already but without the network name (essid) it won't let > me click the 'Connect' button. I think that makes sense - if it doesn't know the network name it can't know to which one it should connect :) > Also if I put in the essid name (even > though the router isn't broadcasting it -- 'don't broadcast essid' > option) then KnetworkManager tries but gives up after about 45 seconds > with a can't connect error. While it tries to connect there usually is a progress bar - how far does it go, 28% or 57%? Did you check for spelling errors of network name and / or passphrase? Other than that I have no idea why it shouldn't work. Maybe it depends on the network card? What type do you use? Check with the "lspci" command if you don't know it already. It works for me with IPW-2200 and AR-2413 cards. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 07:35:42 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:35:42 +0200 Subject: please help In-Reply-To: <229873f80812102318p209b9025vb267714e7935f9d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <229873f80812102318p209b9025vb267714e7935f9d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4940C2CE.4010100@gmail.com> Ole Guldberg Jensen wrote: > the G3 has a powerpc CPU and (k)ubuntu doesnt support powerpc. Try > another distro that does support ppc, like debian or fedora. > > 2008/12/11 jacobo smeke > > > hi, > i wonder if you can help me out with this problem. > the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to install > kubuntu. > i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, and > formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it worked > perfectly. then i took the disk and connected it on the mac, but im > still having the same problem. > when i turn on the computer, it goes to a grey background and shows > an icon with a question mark, the icon is like the finder face. then > it show some text that says "to continue booting, type mac-boot the > prees return. > to shut down, type shut-down press return". > i cant get into kubuntu, i searched the problem and i found that is > the pram, and i reset it and in didnt work either. > > could you help me with this???? > Last version I remember that supported PowerPC was Dapper 6.06 , in other words 2 years ago From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 08:56:19 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:56:19 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101032.34334.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> <200812101032.34334.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200812110956.19959.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 16:32:34 Brendan wrote: > > Did you manage to get the filepicker to be KDE instead of OO ugly ones? > > That actually scared me off the OOo 3... > > I did not try that one. The file picker in KDE 4 is not my fave > yet...close, but twitchy still. I cannot find an option in kubuntu, Strange, because there is one when running in gnome. -- lanzen From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 09:09:21 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:09:21 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101408.34530.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812101850.27742.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812101408.34530.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812111009.21362.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 20:08:34 Bruce Marshall wrote: > After you extract it all from the tar ball, go down to the DEBS directory > and then issue: > > dpkg -i *.deb > > but if I recall, there are some 'redhat' pkgs (two maybe) that need to be > deleted first. It will give an error on dependencies if they are not > deleted. No harm done to try it first. Thanks Bruce, I eventually followed your advice and it worked nicely and flawlessly at the first try, no error on dependencies. Now I'm trying to get OOo documents with OOo3 and I've managed to get an "Open file with" option for it, By any chance, do you know of any better way to do it? I'd rather have OOo3 by default than 2.4. -- lanzen From pfrancq at ulb.ac.be Thu Dec 11 10:45:52 2008 From: pfrancq at ulb.ac.be (Pascal Francq) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:45:52 +0100 Subject: Amarok2 and iPod Message-ID: <200812111145.52842.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I vae just install amarok 2 (KUbuntu 8.10) and I have problems with iPod Applet. Amarok 2 does not recognize my iPod (I have to add the iPod to collections repository and re-scan the whold thing each time I connect my iPod). It seems that the amarok2 package does not support iPod by default. So, I download the sources to compile it, and I have got the following error (64 bit architecture): /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqld.a(net_serv.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqld.a: could not read symbols: Bad value It is something related to the mysql client. Someone has an idea (without to compile MySQL myself with the option). Thanks. - -- Pascal Francq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklA72AACgkQoiZc4N+hp31cOQCfXitqfnoWu4QUfNi+/cQ/ha2e pJ8AnA6H0HDXPjbWyc1Go1DlM5Xca/Wu =Vmxf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 11:36:18 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:36:18 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812110956.19959.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> <200812101032.34334.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200812110956.19959.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4940FB32.2020501@gmail.com> lanzen wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 16:32:34 Brendan wrote: >>> Did you manage to get the filepicker to be KDE instead of OO ugly ones? >>> That actually scared me off the OOo 3... >> I did not try that one. The file picker in KDE 4 is not my fave >> yet...close, but twitchy still. > > I cannot find an option in kubuntu, Strange, because there is one when running > in gnome. > makes me think there is a problem with the kde-package, can not remember what it is called now. I stayed with 2.4 eventually and have installed support for MS Office 2007 files and my favvo extension Bookmarks From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Thu Dec 11 11:36:04 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:36:04 +0200 Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router In-Reply-To: <200812110827.16873.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net> <200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net> <4940AFEC.2090009@prayingforisrael.net> <200812110827.16873.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4940FB24.3010204@prayingforisrael.net> Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> And how can I connect to one that doesn't show on the list? >>> Right click on the knetworkmanager icon. Select "connect to other >>> network" (or similar wording) and enter network name and encryption >>> details. Then click "connect". At least that's how it works here >>> (Kubuntu 8.04). >> I tried that already but without the network name (essid) it won't let >> me click the 'Connect' button. > > I think that makes sense - if it doesn't know the network name it can't > know to which one it should connect :) > >> Also if I put in the essid name (even >> though the router isn't broadcasting it -- 'don't broadcast essid' >> option) then KnetworkManager tries but gives up after about 45 seconds >> with a can't connect error. > > While it tries to connect there usually is a progress bar - how far does > it go, 28% or 57%? > > Did you check for spelling errors of network name and / or passphrase? > Other than that I have no idea why it shouldn't work. Maybe it depends on > the network card? What type do you use? Check with the "lspci" command if > you don't know it already. It works for me with IPW-2200 and AR-2413 > cards. > > > Nils > Hi Nils, I think the problem is KNetworkManager. If, after changing the settings on the router, I try to connect using KNetworkManager it times-out at 28% (if it is a mistyped password it fails almost immediately). If I reboot the laptop then KNetworkManager finds the router and connects no problem (if it has a broadcasting essid). So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their essid's -- what is the point of that router option if one cannot connect to it? Blessings, Nigel -- From cschult at gmx.de Thu Dec 11 11:43:36 2008 From: cschult at gmx.de (Christian Schult) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:43:36 +0100 Subject: configuring sonnet Message-ID: <20081211114336.GA17140@jazz.cocis.de> Hi, installed is Kubuntu 8.10. Kmail gives me a wrong spelling correction for the german word Gruß (which is right) and suggests Gruss (which is wrong). Locale is de_DE.UTF-8 and german is selected as spellchecking language in KDEs settings. I found out that KDE4 uses sonnet to use several installed spellcheckers and wordbooks. How do i find out which are used? Christian From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 11:51:32 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:51:32 +0100 Subject: configuring sonnet In-Reply-To: <20081211114336.GA17140@jazz.cocis.de> References: <20081211114336.GA17140@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Christian Schult wrote: > Hi, > > installed is Kubuntu 8.10. > Kmail gives me a wrong spelling correction for the german word Gruß > (which is right) and suggests Gruss (which is wrong). Locale is > de_DE.UTF-8 and german is selected as spellchecking language in KDEs > settings. > > I found out that KDE4 uses sonnet to use several installed > spellcheckers and wordbooks. How do i find out which are used? > > Christian Christian, as I am sure you know spellings with ss keep changing. Are you sure it is wrong now? I am not a native speaker but have to keep relearning the rules about all that. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From cschult at gmx.de Thu Dec 11 12:24:06 2008 From: cschult at gmx.de (Christian Schult) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:24:06 +0100 Subject: configuring sonnet In-Reply-To: References: <20081211114336.GA17140@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: <20081211122406.GB17140@jazz.cocis.de> Hello Knapp, Knapp wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Christian Schult wrote: > > Kmail gives me a wrong spelling correction for the german word Gruß > > (which is right) and suggests Gruss (which is wrong). Locale is > > I found out that KDE4 uses sonnet to use several installed > > spellcheckers and wordbooks. How do i find out which are used? > Christian, as I am sure you know spellings with ss keep changing. Are > you sure it is wrong now? I am not a native speaker but have to keep > relearning the rules about all that. With the last german orthography reform, � changed to ss when it followed after a short spoken vokal. So Ku� (en: kiss) became Kuss, but Gru� (en: greeting) is still Gru�. Christian From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Thu Dec 11 12:53:25 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:53:25 +0100 Subject: inserting reply in text Message-ID: <200812111353.25655.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Kmail 1.9.10 kde 3,5.10 Can Kmail insert the original text in a forward, instead of making an inbedded message of ot? -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 13:08:08 2008 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:08:08 +0200 Subject: inserting reply in text In-Reply-To: <200812111353.25655.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> References: <200812111353.25655.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: <200812111508.08620.gkourtev@gmail.com> Peter, Just press and hold the Forward button and you'll see these options there. gk On Thursday 11 December 2008 14:53:25 Peter Klaassen wrote: > Kmail 1.9.10 kde 3,5.10 > > Can Kmail insert the original text in a forward, instead of making an > inbedded message of ot? > > -- > Peter > Registered Linux user # 458207 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:42:53 +0200 Subject: inserting reply in text In-Reply-To: <200812111508.08620.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <200812111353.25655.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <200812111508.08620.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494118DD.4010002@gmail.com> Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Peter, > > Just press and hold the Forward button and you'll see these options there. > > gk > > On Thursday 11 December 2008 14:53:25 Peter Klaassen wrote: > > > Kmail 1.9.10 kde 3,5.10 > > > > > > Can Kmail insert the original text in a forward, instead of making an > > > inbedded message of ot? > you can even replace the Forward button with "inline" (forward not as attachment) or add the extra button From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Dec 11 15:36:20 2008 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:36:20 +0000 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <20081211153620.3c7e29c6.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:43:22 -0500 Bruce Marshall wrote: BM> On Wednesday 10 December 2008, lanzen wrote: BM> > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 09:36:34 Brendan wrote: BM> > > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO BM> > > Debs from the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works BM> > > like a charm. BM> > BM> > You mean from http://download.openoffice.org/? BM> > BM> > -- BM> > lanzen BM> BM> Yes... works like a charm... BM> Apart from the multimedia aspects. The versions from openoffice.org only support inclusion of multimedia via JMF, whereas the ppa versions support gstreamer. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Thu Dec 11 15:42:38 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:42:38 +0100 Subject: inserting reply in text In-Reply-To: <494118DD.4010002@gmail.com> References: <200812111353.25655.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <200812111508.08620.gkourtev@gmail.com> <494118DD.4010002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812111642.38546.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Thursday 11 December 2008 14:42:53 schreef O. Sinclair: > Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Peter, > > > > Just press and hold the Forward button and you'll see these options > > there. > > > > gk > > > > On Thursday 11 December 2008 14:53:25 Peter Klaassen wrote: > > > Kmail 1.9.10 kde 3,5.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > Can Kmail insert the original text in a forward, instead of making an > > > > > > inbedded message of ot? > > you can even replace the Forward button with "inline" (forward not as > attachment) or add the extra button Thanks Mr. Sinclair and Kourtev It's just too easy any suggestions on my amarok/screensaver error? Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid ELF header -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 11 16:03:46 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:03:46 -0400 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Many times an email goes to the outbox with the statement that there > was > trouble connecting to the server. To resend, I have been clicking on > the > outbox, double clicking on the email and resending. It always works > the > second time. Is there a way to have kmail resend until it succeeds? It will resend every time you either send another message, or usually (I think it's configurable) whenever it fetches new messages. > > I couldn't find anything in configuration. It doesn't happen every > time, > however way too often. It acts like a Microsoft product, 5 clicks to > get a single thing done. It's a little unfair to blame a program for having trouble connecting to an obviously flaky server. -- derek From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Dec 11 16:53:01 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:53:01 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812111009.21362.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812101408.34530.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812111009.21362.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812111153.01755.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 11 December 2008, lanzen wrote: > Thanks Bruce, I eventually followed your advice and it worked nicely and > flawlessly at the first try, no error on dependencies. > > Now I'm trying to get OOo documents with OOo3 and I've managed to get an > "Open file with" option for it, By any chance, do you know of any better > way to do it? I'd rather have OOo3 by default than 2.4. In KDE3, it is: settings --> KDE components --> file associations. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Dec 11 16:56:20 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:56:20 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken Message-ID: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 11 December 2008, lanzen wrote: > Thanks Bruce, I eventually followed your advice and it worked nicely and > flawlessly at the first try, no error on dependencies. > > Now I'm trying to get OOo documents with OOo3 and I've managed to get an > "Open file with" option for it, By any chance, do you know of any better > way to do it? I'd rather have OOo3 by default than 2.4. You might also want to edit the K-menu for OpenOffice.org and change all the programs to point to /opt/ In my case I think the load of OO03 did that automatically. From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Thu Dec 11 19:45:50 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:45:50 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49416DEE.7010607@cfl.rr.com> On 12/09/2008 Steven Vollom inscribed: > Subject: Re: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to > all. > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200812090740.56117.stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > /* (Much snipping of irrelevant data!) */ >I booted and still had to enter kwin in a shell to get it working again. The minute I > close the konsole, kwin crashes. Steven, In reference to the above two sentences, I could not tell if anyone replied to this. However, when you open a console and run a program, whatever type, the console becomes a "parent process" and the program is the "child process" of that parent and remains so until you close the "child process". So, when you close the "parent process" you close the "child process" if it is still running. Hope this gives some clarity to the use of the console and programs that are run in it. Good luck! > /* (Snipping of irrelevant data!) */ > > Steven Tom -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Thu Dec 11 20:17:39 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:17:39 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu on Mac G3 [was: please help] In-Reply-To: <200812110811.20397.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812110811.20397.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20081211201739.0590ba25@graham-desktop> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:11:20 +0100 Nils Kassube wrote: > jacobo smeke wrote: > > the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to install > > kubuntu. > > i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, and > > formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it worked > > perfectly. then i took the disk and connected it on the mac, but im > > still having the same problem. > > IIRC the Mac G3 has a PowerPC CPU. Then it can't work with the i386 > version of Kubuntu. You would need a Kubuntu version for PowerPC but > I don't know if that exists. > > > Nils > The Ubuntu family no longer support PPC (PowerPC), but it used to do so. The last version of Kubuntu for which you can obtain a version for the PPC is 7.04 ("Feisty Fawn"). I have a version of an earlier version of Kubuntu for PPC architecture (6.10) which I got from the Linux Shop. If you go to: http://www.thelinuxshop.co.uk/catalog/index.php and then look down the Categories list you will find an item which reads something like "Linux for the PPC". Kubuntu is listed on that page so you might consider purchasing a disk for about £3.00. For all things Linux on PPC, you should visit: http://www.penguinppc.org HTH -- Graham Todd From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Dec 11 20:38:57 2008 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:38:57 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu on Mac G3 [was: please help] In-Reply-To: <20081211201739.0590ba25@graham-desktop> References: <200812110811.20397.kassube@gmx.net> <20081211201739.0590ba25@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <20081211203857.23957f26.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:17:39 +0000 Graham Todd wrote: GT> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:11:20 +0100 GT> Nils Kassube wrote: GT> GT> > jacobo smeke wrote: GT> > > the thing is that i have a mac g3, it crashed so i wanted to GT> > > install kubuntu. GT> > > i put the cd and it didnt worked, so i took the hard drive disk, GT> > > and formated on a xp machine, then i installed kubuntu and it GT> > > worked perfectly. then i took the disk and connected it on the GT> > > mac, but im still having the same problem. GT> > GT> > IIRC the Mac G3 has a PowerPC CPU. Then it can't work with the GT> > i386 version of Kubuntu. You would need a Kubuntu version for GT> > PowerPC but I don't know if that exists. GT> > GT> > GT> > Nils GT> > GT> The Ubuntu family no longer support PPC (PowerPC), but it used to do GT> so. The last version of Kubuntu for which you can obtain a version GT> for the PPC is 7.04 ("Feisty Fawn"). GT> GT> I have a version of an earlier version of Kubuntu for PPC GT> architecture (6.10) which I got from the Linux Shop. If you go to: GT> http://www.thelinuxshop.co.uk/catalog/index.php GT> and then look down the Categories list you will find an item which GT> reads something like "Linux for the PPC". Kubuntu is listed on that GT> page so you might consider purchasing a disk for about £3.00. GT> GT> For all things Linux on PPC, you should visit: GT> GT> http://www.penguinppc.org This isn't quite accurate. There are no offical (Canonical-backed) PPC versions anymore. However there are "community" releases which can be found on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ they are found under the ports directories (however note that for (say) kubuntu the path is kubuntu/ports not ports/kubuntu). That said, I have an old G3 iBook and I've found that X-configuration is a real pain (the only solution I found was to boot an old (Gutsy I think) live-cd and copy the xorg.conf generated by that to a memory stick and then copy it onto the new system -- this applies to both Hardy & Intrepid) this might not be a problem on a desktop box as the problem seems to be that the iBook display doesn't return all the information about its capabilities [actually quite a common problem with laptops]. I'd strongly advise against trying Kubuntu Intrepid on such an old box as it is unbelievably slow, Hardy was tolerable but not quick. Support for the "lesser" variants like Xubuntu is flakey at best (many XFCE applications just crashed on startup). -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Thu Dec 11 23:54:06 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:54:06 -0300 Subject: RTL8187B In-Reply-To: <9528C4035C1747B396550D31CDC1113E@NoEsHisterica> References: <491DFAA7.2060106@swbell.net><200811141850.27618.bmarsh@bmarsh.com><491E2270.4030103@swbell.net> <9528C4035C1747B396550D31CDC1113E@NoEsHisterica> Message-ID: <8D5E0201E6EE448D87EA3C0A416339FB@NoEsHisterica> Hi everyone ! I have a wireless onboard in my notebook olivetti 530. the chipset is RTL8187B I boot with live cd of Kubuntu 8.10- and I can see all wireless networks, but I can´t connect. I try with ndiswrapper, and no works. its the same, can see all networks, but I can´t connect with any network. somebody can make it works? please Help me. best regards Javier Ramirez __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 00:54:26 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:54:26 +1000 Subject: KOrganiser Calendar and WebDAV Message-ID: <4941b642.1c7e.b7198b90.4827cb50@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Has anyone tried using KOrganiser with a WebDAV server? is it reliable? I'd like to setup a centralised Calendar server for Kontact. 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Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 04:20:49 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:20:49 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812112320.50174.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > It's a little unfair to blame a program for having trouble connecting to > an obviously flaky server. You are 100% correct, AT&T is a flaky server; I only made the post, because it never happened before in the 3 years I have used them. It started to happen when I got Kmail working. And for anyone who thinks I am slamming Kmail. I like it better that any other mail server I have ever used, even with the problem. I just thought if it is something repairable, it would be nice to have it work. I am wondering, can memory problems cause this type of incident? I am running a memory test Sunday and won't be on the air. Thanks! Especially to you Derek. Steven From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 12 04:46:14 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:46:14 -0600 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812112320.50174.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812112320.50174.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> Steven Vollom wrote: >> It's a little unfair to blame a program for having trouble connecting to >> an obviously flaky server. >> > > You are 100% correct, AT&T is a flaky server; I only made the post, because it > never happened before in the 3 years I have used them. It started to happen > when I got Kmail working. And for anyone who thinks I am slamming Kmail. I > like it better that any other mail server I have ever used, even with the > problem. I just thought if it is something repairable, it would be nice to > have it work. I am wondering, can memory problems cause this type of > incident? I am running a memory test Sunday and won't be on the air. > Thanks! Especially to you Derek. > > Steven > > > I've never used Kmail but I do know that some e-mail programs have a setting to "send immediately" or to send next time they connect. Does Kmail have a setting like this? -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 07:41:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:41:42 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812112320.50174.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > I've never used Kmail but I do know that some e-mail programs have a > setting to "send immediately" or to send next time they connect. Does > Kmail have a setting like this? If it does, I looked and didn't find it. I will recheck though. Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 07:47:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:47:27 -0500 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <49416DEE.7010607@cfl.rr.com> References: <49416DEE.7010607@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812120247.27915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >So, when you close the "parent process" you close the >"child process" if it is still running. I am not sure I understand. When I open the program by using a konsole, I am just opening the program, not making any kind of repair? Is there a way so that I don't have to keep a shell open with kwin entered and still can have use of the desktop? Steven From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 08:10:24 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:10:24 +1000 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812121810.28494.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:41:42 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > I've never used Kmail but I do know that some e-mail programs have a > > setting to "send immediately" or to send next time they connect. Does > > Kmail have a setting like this? > > If it does, I looked and didn't find it. I will recheck though. Thanks! KMail|Accounts|Sending - Send Messages in Outbox Folder = On All Mail Checks KMail|Accounts|Receiving - Modify Button - Enable Interval Mail Sending -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 08:38:16 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:38:16 +0200 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812112320.50174.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <494222F8.8010601@gmail.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >>> It's a little unfair to blame a program for having trouble connecting to >>> an obviously flaky server. >>> >> You are 100% correct, AT&T is a flaky server; I only made the post, because it never happened before in the 3 years I have used them. It started to happen when I got Kmail working. And for anyone who thinks I am slamming Kmail. I like it better that any other mail server I have ever used, even with the problem. I just thought if it is something repairable, it would be nice to have it work. I am wondering, can memory problems cause this type of incident? I am running a memory test Sunday and won't be on the air. Thanks! Especially to you Derek. >> >> Steven >> >> >> > > I've never used Kmail but I do know that some e-mail programs have a setting to "send immediately" or to send next time they connect. Does Kmail have a setting like this? > yes you find them in "common options" on the sending accounts in "configure kmail". Send now, send later etc. From alain.muls at telenet.be Fri Dec 12 08:43:28 2008 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:43:28 +0100 Subject: kontact 1.3 - some question on HOWTO Message-ID: <200812120943.28468.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi I cleanly installed intrepid and found that kmail/korganizer/kaddressbook (version kde4.2 beta 1) now rely on akonadi for storing different types of information. The general framework is that it is a DB which stores different type of infos. I do not know how I should: 1. install the calendars I use. I have a local personal calendar and I use a google calendar for information common with colleagues. The local calendar is visible after an import using akonadi, but how do we best connect to the google calendar? In hardy I did it using gcaldaemon to sync a local version, but that solution is not ideal since at work I am behind a proxy and at home not. 2. is it possible to adjust the proxy settings for all kde apps after a connection is made using a script post launched by wicd? 3. I also have a google mail account, how should I set it up using the akonadi DB? Tx for any help -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alain MULS alain.muls at telenet.be CISS-GENA +32.2.7426340 Renaissance Avenue 30 1000 BRUSSELS - Belgium ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 11:36:43 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:36:43 +0100 Subject: Problems with kwin and kwallet. **RESOLVED** Thanks to all. In-Reply-To: <200812120247.27915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <49416DEE.7010607@cfl.rr.com> <200812120247.27915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Steven Vollom : >>So, when you close the "parent process" you close the >>"child process" if it is still running. > > I am not sure I understand. When I open the program by using a konsole, I am > just opening the program, not making any kind of repair? All programs is spawn/started by a parent program and becomes a child to that program. If you terminate the parent program all children to it will also be terminated (There are exception like daemons that forking a child and then terminate itself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software) ). The parent to all children in a Unix environment is /sbin/init http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init that's the first program to be started when you boot. If you install htop and run it from konsole and pressing F5 you will see a tree view of all processes and with init at the top. > Is there a way so > that I don't have to keep a shell open with kwin entered and still can have > use of the desktop? > > Steven > My first though was to run it with nohup or detach. But nohup did not work that way and detach is not available in ubuntu. I'm sure there is a way to detach a process from its parent but could not figure it out now so I forward the question. Actually i did come up with a way before i hit the send button. Start the program in konsole, put it to sleep with CTRL+Z then run bg (background) to put it in the background and the then run disown to disown/detach it from current shell. I tested it and it did work for "normal" windows program but i don't know if it work for kwin. ctrl+z: Is a standard way to put running programs to suspended/stopped mode and restore your console prompt so can do other things. To see your suspended and background processes run the jobs command. bg: Is a bash built in command that will resume suspended jobs by running them as background jobs. Without a job_id argument bg will resume the first one in the job queue. disown: disown prevents the current shell from sending a HUP signal to each of the given jobs when the current shell terminates a login session. If a job-id argument is omitted, the most recently started or stopped background job is used. / Jonas From tijl.reusen at telenet.be Fri Dec 12 12:05:11 2008 From: tijl.reusen at telenet.be (Tijl Reusen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:05:11 +0100 Subject: Contents of kubuntu-users digest. Message-ID: <18F3BD3E-0190-400F-BC0B-5542874FD45E@telenet.be> Met Vriendelijke Groeten Tijl Reusen www.minos-gent.eu www.folkfestivalham.be www.celticartgallery.be From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Dec 12 12:05:06 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:05:06 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4941EC96.8010402@swbell.net> <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812120705.06648.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 12 December 2008 2:41:42 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > I've never used Kmail but I do know that some e-mail programs have a > > setting to "send immediately" or to send next time they connect. Does > > Kmail have a setting like this? > > If it does, I looked and didn't find it. I will recheck though. Thanks! Under Accounts-> sending tab, the choices are at the bottom of the dialog. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Dec 12 12:08:10 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:08:10 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812120708.10437.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 11 December 2008 11:03:46 am Derek Broughton wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > Many times an email goes to the outbox with the statement that there > > was > > trouble connecting to the server. To resend, I have been clicking on > > the > > outbox, double clicking on the email and resending. It always works > > the > > second time. Is there a way to have kmail resend until it succeeds? > > It will resend every time you either send another message, or usually (I > think it's configurable) whenever it fetches new messages. > > > I couldn't find anything in configuration. It doesn't happen every > > time, > > however way too often. It acts like a Microsoft product, 5 clicks to > > get a single thing done. > > It's a little unfair to blame a program for having trouble connecting to > an obviously flaky server. I use the same company as Steven, and never in 7 or 8 years have I had a problem. I think the problem lies on Steven's side. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 12:58:55 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:58:55 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update Message-ID: It looks like todays update to kaffeine in Intrepid did remove the binary /usr/bin/kaffeine. Can some other confirm it? / Jonas From gloonie at earthlink.net Fri Dec 12 13:03:55 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:03:55 -0500 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: > /usr/bin/kaffeine Yep. Looks like it did here too. Glenn From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 13:23:56 2008 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:23:56 +0200 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812121523.56507.gkourtev@gmail.com> The same with me. gk On Friday 12 December 2008 15:03:55 Glenn R Williams wrote: > On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: > > /usr/bin/kaffeine > > Yep. 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There are 2 bugs reported for this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307412/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307417 / Jonas From james at saveker.org Fri Dec 12 13:29:28 2008 From: james at saveker.org (James Saveker) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:29:28 +0000 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: <200812121523.56507.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812121523.56507.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081212132928.63vzx5gcg0ss84wc@www.saveker.org> Quoting Georgi Kourtev : > The same with me. > gk > > > On Friday 12 December 2008 15:03:55 Glenn R Williams wrote: >> On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: >> > /usr/bin/kaffeine >> >> Yep. Looks like it did here too. >> >> Glenn > > > Is this update Kubuntu only, or one applicable to Ubuntu also? Kind regards, -- Jimbo. Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes C isn?t that hard: void (*(*f[])())() defines f as an array of unspecified size, of pointers to functions that return pointers to functions that return void From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 13:38:17 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:38:17 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: <20081212132928.63vzx5gcg0ss84wc@www.saveker.org> References: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> <200812121523.56507.gkourtev@gmail.com> <20081212132928.63vzx5gcg0ss84wc@www.saveker.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 James Saveker : > Quoting Georgi Kourtev : > >> The same with me. >> gk >> >> >> On Friday 12 December 2008 15:03:55 Glenn R Williams wrote: >>> On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: >>> > /usr/bin/kaffeine >>> >>> Yep. Looks like it did here too. >>> >>> Glenn >> >> >> > > Is this update Kubuntu only, or one applicable to Ubuntu also? > I'm sure kubuntu and Ubuntu using the same repository so it will effekt Ubuntu to. / Jonas From thisway2freedom at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 13:56:05 2008 From: thisway2freedom at gmail.com (Peter Shepherd) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:56:05 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell Message-ID: <22e319260812120556y22b5a8c0q255a8b708f457a7b@mail.gmail.com> I recently purchased an pre-owned Dell 2.2 GHz tower through EBay. I can load SimplyMepis, FreeSpire 2.0, OpenSuse, Puppy, Vector, etc.. but when I load any of the Ubuntu family, it will not boot. It goes to the flash screen after I log in and then just sits there. Is there anything I can do. I really would like to get Kubuntu working on the system. Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You have to give us some more information like version of Kubuntu, graphics card, drivers used, monitor and your xorg.conf so we have something to work with. / Jonas From thisway2freedom at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 14:46:06 2008 From: thisway2freedom at gmail.com (Peter Shepherd) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:46:06 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell Message-ID: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> It boots, but does not load the X system. No error messages. I can log in OK, then it goes to the flash screen, and each part appears to load properly until the end when it should open up to the desktop, it just sits there. My version of Kubuntu, etc. is Intrepid. I have not tried any of the older versions yet. 'll have to wait till I get home this evening to try out your suggestion. Please explain how to load x.org and copy it over - I am definitely not a computer expert. Also, I gave my daughter a used Dell Precision laptop, and loaded it with Kubuntu. It works perfectly, except everything (panels, icons, font, etc.) is too small. I tried changing the display parameters, and it helps until I reboot, it goes back to small. Peter > > Your email says your computer won't boot. Do you get any error > messages? I suspect that the computer may be booting, but just not > loading the X system correctly. Try hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE to see > if you can get a shell. If so, then load up Mepis, save the X.org file > and when you load Kubuntu, copy the X.org file over. > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > End of kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 66 > ********************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 15:07:42 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:07:42 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 11 December 2008 17:56:20 Bruce Marshall wrote: > You might also want to edit the K-menu for OpenOffice.org and change all > the programs to point to /opt/ ? ? In my case I think the load of OO03 did > that automatically. That's what I've done.You said you got them automatically: did you _still_ have 2.4 at that point? Also, I know there is dir containing the openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb package It I try to install it it complains about a "conflicting openoffice,org.core". .. lanzen From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Dec 12 15:18:40 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:18:40 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121018.41004.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 12 December 2008, lanzen wrote: > That's what I've done.You said you got them automatically: did you _still_ > have 2.4 at that point? > > Also, I know there is dir containing the > openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb package > It I try to install it it complains about a "conflicting > openoffice,org.core". I guess the problem is that I've always used the openoffice.org version. Back in Gutsy I ran into a problem with the repo OOo not wanting to update for some reason. Gave me much grief so I went to great lengths to get rid of the repo files. You might have to do the same but it is worth it. I have had no problems with OO since doing this. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 15:41:20 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:41:20 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121018.41004.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812121018.41004.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812121641.21016.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 16:18:40 Bruce Marshall wrote: > Gave me much grief so I went to great lengths to get rid of > the repo files. Yes, been there recently. :) But then I did choose to get it back. > You might have to do the same but it is worth it. I have had no problems > with OO since doing this. I've just found a site that has a complete list of files to be removed, and also ways to get back. I'll have a go though I know it'll get rid of the new OOo3 as well. At least that's what happened the other time. Not a big problem. Thank you -- lanzen From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 16:01:38 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:01:38 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812120705.06648.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812120241.42548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812120705.06648.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812121101.38915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Under Accounts-> sending tab, the choices are at the bottom of the dialog. Confirm before send Not Checked Send messages in oubox folder: On All Mail Checks Default send method: Send Now Message property MIME Complaint (Quoted Printable) Default domain Studio25 Can you see my error? Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 16:03:06 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:03:06 -0500 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812120708.10437.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1461940.MrsNLomvo0@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812120708.10437.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812121103.06313.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > I use the same company as Steven, and never in 7 or 8 years have I had a > problem. I think the problem lies on Steven's side. I have been with them 3 years and never this problem either. Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:05:02 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:05:02 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812091612.23824.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812092229.24183.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <493F8C35.2080403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812120805x7c39e5b2t93f4b19ef6c02e26@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 O. Sinclair : > Did you manage to get the filepicker to be KDE instead of OO ugly ones? > That actually scared me off the OOo 3... > If this is important to you, then please comment on this bug: KDE File Chooser for all GTK apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/281834 -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:08:00 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:08:00 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812100336.34381.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200812101818.50244.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812120808qc9b6698mdfa1badaee5eaa8d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/10 Bruce Marshall : >> > Just remove the OO packages from the system, and install the OO Debs from >> > the site, along with the kde menu ones included. Works like a charm. >> >> You mean from http://download.openoffice.org/? > > Yes... works like a charm... > You should read this first: http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:14:19 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:14:19 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121641.21016.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812121018.41004.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812121641.21016.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121714.20154.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Update: there was no need to reinstall and the menu update went fine. No problems in gnome, but I still have to tell Kubuntu that now OOo3 is default and one and only. ;) Thanks again. -- lanzen From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:29:05 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:29:05 -0500 Subject: Installing 32 bit java on a 64 bit 8.10 Message-ID: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> Perhaps I shouldn't be doing this at all, and there is a better solution, but I am open to all suggestions. I have a 64 bit installation of 8.10. I installed Firefox from mozilla.com in /opt. Presumably it installed 32 bit Firefox. Now it can't find java. I also installed OpenOffice 3 from the PPA, and being 32 bit, it wants 32 bit java. I suppose I have two alternatives. (1) install 32 bit java, or (2) remove Firefox and OpenOffice and download and install the 64 bit versions. Recommendations and a 32 bit java howto appreciated. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:34:24 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:34:24 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <880dece00812120808qc9b6698mdfa1badaee5eaa8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812101243.22420.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <880dece00812120808qc9b6698mdfa1badaee5eaa8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121734.24371.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 17:08:00 Dotan Cohen wrote: > You should read this first: > http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 Interesting article Dotan, thanks. As a matter of fact, there seems to be a possible hack #2 in getting openoffice.org-kde to work nicely in Kubuntu until the guys at launchpad get it together to fix it, though they seem (rightly so) too busy with Amarok. This is it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6355296#post6355296 posts #42 and #34. Anyone interested, please be cautious! -- lanzen From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:47:40 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:47:40 +0100 Subject: Installing 32 bit java on a 64 bit 8.10 In-Reply-To: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121747.40506.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 17:29:05 Art Alexion wrote: > I suppose I have two alternatives. (1) install 32 bit java, or (2) remove > Firefox and OpenOffice and download and install the 64 bit versions. I'd stay 64. There's 64bit OpenOffice in PPA. http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary- amd64/ Then you could try the fix I've suggested. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6355296#post6355296 I will do some testing later on today on that. -- lanzen From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Fri Dec 12 17:06:00 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:06:00 +0100 Subject: Kmail goes to outbox. In-Reply-To: <200812121101.38915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812102116.24972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812120705.06648.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812121101.38915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812121806.00807.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Friday 12 December 2008 17:01, Steven Vollom wrote: > > Under Accounts-> sending tab, the choices are at the bottom of the > > dialog. > > Confirm before send Not Checked > Send messages in oubox folder: On All Mail Checks > Default send method: Send Now > Message property MIME Complaint (Quoted Printable) > Default domain > Studio25 > > Can you see my error? > > Thanks! > > Steven Mine says as below. Confirm before send Not Checked Send messages in outbox folder: Not Checked Default send method: Send Now Message property MIME Complaint (Quoted Printable) Default domain Localhost I have found on odd occasions that trying to reply to a mailing list, I've had a "refused by server", and message will remain in the outbox, until you fix it. With that message, as it were, in quarantine, trying to send other messages failed also, because of the faulty one in the outbox. I've had to edit the message in the outbox, removing certain words, phrases from the message that I'm replying to. Words like Viagra for example. Having done that, sending a message that appears to be quarantined, is now sent without problems. Perhaps my ISP is monitoring my sends, and looking for spammy words or phrases, and rejecting the send if the post looks a bit dodgy. Saying that, I receive allsorts of rubbish that bogofilter sends to the trash, so they are not rejecting it being sent to me. It will be interesting if this post gets to the list, as I've used a word above, that may end up with this post staying in my outbox. Using Kmail 1.6.2 on a very ancient Fedora Core 2. Nigel. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 12 17:23:59 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:23:59 -0400 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update References: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2541506.bi7dbznd1a@cedar.serverforest.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/12 Glenn R Williams : >> On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: >>> /usr/bin/kaffeine >> >> Yep. Looks like it did here too. >> >> Glenn >> > > Damn thats my default player for videos. I guess can use VLC for my > videos but i need Kaffeine for my DVB-T card. > Are there some easy way to go back to previous version until this is > sorted out? aptitude install PACKAGE=VERSION (iirc) -- derek From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Fri Dec 12 17:40:02 2008 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:40:02 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> Michael schrieb: > Peter Shepherd wrote: > > ... > Once you have Mepis running, copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to a USB > stick or floppy if your computer has one. After loading K/Ubuntu, get > to the shell by hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. Please press Alt+CNTRL+F1 instead! You might not get a shell if you press ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. Then login. Before you copy any files you should stop the X-Server with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop > Copy your file to the same > directory, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( you need to be root to do this, or in > the Ubuntu flavors, use sudo) > sudo cp //xorg.con /etc/X11/xorg.conf > Then, restart X. I forget the command to do this . . . anyone? > Then restart your X-Server with ;-) sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ( in the good old days way back before KDM oder GDM you could start the X-Server with "startx" :-). ) Michael From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 17:44:10 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:44:10 +0100 Subject: Installing 32 bit java on a 64 bit 8.10 In-Reply-To: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Art Alexion : > Perhaps I shouldn't be doing this at all, and there is a better solution, but > I am open to all suggestions. > > I have a 64 bit installation of 8.10. I installed Firefox from mozilla.com in > /opt. Presumably it installed 32 bit Firefox. Now it can't find java. > > I also installed OpenOffice 3 from the PPA, and being 32 bit, it wants 32 bit > java. > > I suppose I have two alternatives. (1) install 32 bit java, or (2) remove > Firefox and OpenOffice and download and install the 64 bit versions. > > Recommendations and a 32 bit java howto appreciated. > The firefox in the repository is up to date and 64 bit why did you install another? And how did you manage to get 32 bit for openoffice from the PPA there is amd64 package there to and they should be chosen by itself if are you running 64 bit. $ apt-cache show openoffice.org Package: openoffice.org Source: openoffice.org Priority: optional Section: editors Installed-Size: 44 Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers Architecture: amd64 Version: 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 My suggestion is to uninstall firefox and openoffice. Install firefox from the repro. java is working fine with it. Make sure your source list entry for Openoffice from the PPA are OK. This is mine: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa-openoffice.list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main There is a bug in the openoffice 3 packages from PPA that prevents you from running it. There is a thread on this list about it. A workaround is to remove the openoffice.org-kde package. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 17:54:20 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:54:20 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > Then restart your X-Server with ;-) > > sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start > > ( in the good old days way back before KDM oder GDM you could start the > X-Server with "startx" :-). ) > You still can ;-) I use it all the time to start a second X session with the fluxbox window manager when I want to play games. / Jonas From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Fri Dec 12 18:08:19 2008 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:08:19 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: <4942A893.2050707@michaelzoet.de> > You still can ;-) I use it all the time to start a second X session > with the fluxbox window manager when I want to play games. > > :-) From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Fri Dec 12 18:00:38 2008 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:00:38 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: <4942A6C6.1020601@michaelzoet.de> Michael Zoet schrieb: > Michael schrieb: > >> Peter Shepherd wrote: >> >> ... >> Once you have Mepis running, copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to a USB >> stick or floppy if your computer has one. After loading K/Ubuntu, get >> to the shell by hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. >> > Please press Alt+CNTRL+F1 instead! You might not get a shell if you > press ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. What I forgot: The X-Server creates an extended logfile. At the end of this logfile normally X prints the reason why it is not starting. This info could be helpful for people on this list! Logfile location: /var/log/Xorg.0.log From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Fri Dec 12 18:19:30 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:19:30 +0000 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4942AB32.1070902@tiscali.co.uk> Jonas Norlander wrote: > It looks like todays update to kaffeine in Intrepid did remove the > binary /usr/bin/kaffeine. > Can some other confirm it? > > / Jonas > > Here, too. I wonder how the packagers managed to forget to put the executable in? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From kjb.jones at embarqmail.com Fri Dec 12 18:27:36 2008 From: kjb.jones at embarqmail.com (Embarq Customer) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:27:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: flickering screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1601867532.1493271229106456620.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> Dear All, I have a flickering screen when I play back videos on both VLC and Movie player. I have switched off the desktop effects following a suggestion on this forum. (I can't remember who suggested it, but thanks for the tip.) I downloaded Gnome last week to see if the problem would occur in a different environment. The screen flickers at about the same rate. Does anyone have any further ideas? I use a nvidea ATI 1300 radeon graphics card, I would be willing to pull it out if it will stop the flickering. Thanks in advance. Kevin Jones From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Dec 12 18:28:35 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:28:35 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121328.35421.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 12 December 2008 9:46:06 am Peter Shepherd wrote: > It boots, but does not load the X system. No error messages. > > I can log in OK, then it goes to the flash screen, and each part appears to > load properly until the end when it should open up to the desktop, it just > sits there. > > My version of Kubuntu, etc. is Intrepid. I have not tried any of the > older versions yet. > > 'll have to wait till I get home this evening to try out your suggestion. > Please explain how to load x.org and copy it over - I am definitely not a > computer expert. > > Also, I gave my daughter a used Dell Precision laptop, and loaded it with > Kubuntu. It works perfectly, except everything (panels, icons, font, etc.) > is too small. I tried changing the display parameters, and it helps until > I reboot, it goes back to small. > > > Peter > > > Your email says your computer won't boot. Do you get any error > > messages? I suspect that the computer may be booting, but just not > > loading the X system correctly. Try hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE to see > > if you can get a shell. If so, then load up Mepis, save the X.org file > > and when you load Kubuntu, copy the X.org file over. This was the problem I was having last month, I managed to get it working by pushing the "auto" button on my monitor and it gave me a little bit of a desktop, enough to be able to install the restricted drivers. So It's gotta be your X configuration. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 18:43:08 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:43:08 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121734.24371.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <880dece00812120808qc9b6698mdfa1badaee5eaa8d@mail.gmail.com> <200812121734.24371.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121343.13633.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 11:34:24 am lanzen wrote: > On Friday 12 December 2008 17:08:00 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > You should read this first: > > http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 > > Interesting article Dotan, thanks. > > As a matter of fact, there seems to be a possible hack #2 in getting > openoffice.org-kde to work nicely in Kubuntu until the guys at launchpad > get it together to fix it, though they seem (rightly so) too busy with > Amarok. > > This is it > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6355296#post6355296 > posts #42 and #34. > > Anyone interested, please be cautious! I seemed to have no choice but to install from the OOo site, as the ppa does not provide a 64 bit version. The 32 bit version from the ppa will run, but complain about java (because 64 bit kubuntu installs 64 bit java that it can't find) Another thought. Even if the Ubuntu packaging team enhances OOo as the article points out, what is the source of ppa, and is it the alleged enhanced version? Prior to gutsy, I often installed the current version of OOo from the website. Back then, they didn't provide debs, so you had to alien the rpms, but it worked fine. I never noticed any difference (except I was using a newer version). Also, the "missing features" all seem replaceable with extensions. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 18:44:59 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:44:59 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200812111156.20549.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812121607.42449.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121344.59797.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 10:07:42 am lanzen wrote: > Also, I know there is dir containing the > openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb package > It I try to install it it complains about a "conflicting > openoffice,org.core". That's because you haven't removed 2.4. It doesn't complain if you remove 2.4 before installing 3. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 19:02:00 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:02:00 -0500 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: References: <200812120803.55401.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812121402.00849.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 8:27:58 am Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/12 Glenn R Williams : > > On Friday 12 December 2008 07:58:55 Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> /usr/bin/kaffeine > > > > Yep. Looks like it did here too. > > > > Glenn > > Damn thats my default player for videos. I guess can use VLC for my > videos but i need Kaffeine for my DVB-T card. > Are there some easy way to go back to previous version until this is sorted > out? > > > There are 2 bugs reported for this. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307412/ > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307417 > > / Jonas sudo aptitude install kaffeine. If kaffeine-gstreamer is installed it will want to remove it. Allow it, as you are probably using kaffeine-xine anyway. At least that worked for me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From temps.jo at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 19:00:26 2008 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:00:26 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: <4942AB32.1070902@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4942AB32.1070902@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi, kaffeine is ko after update today, I have four satellites down and nothing to do 2008/12/12 Wulfy > Jonas Norlander wrote: > > It looks like todays update to kaffeine in Intrepid did remove the > > binary /usr/bin/kaffeine. > > Can some other confirm it? > > > > / Jonas > > > > > Here, too. 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The linux-desktops list at http://linux.dell.com has tons of resources on using Ubuntu on Dells, including info on Dell-specific repositories for drivers. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 19:12:01 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:12:01 -0500 Subject: Installing 32 bit java on a 64 bit 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121412.01952.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 12:44:10 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: > The firefox in the repository is up to date and 64 bit why did you > install another? I never install firefox in kubuntu from the repository because it installs gnome and its libraries as dependencies. Installing firefox from mozilla.com installs only firefox. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 19:14:55 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:14:55 -0500 Subject: Installing 32 bit java on a 64 bit 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: <200812121129.05248.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121414.55307.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 12:44:10 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: > And how did you manage to get 32 bit for openoffice from the PPA there > is amd64 package there to and they should be chosen by itself if are > you running 64 bit. I screwed up and just copied the entry from sources.list on my other 32 bit intel machine. Perhaps, I'll remove it from /opt, reconfigure sources.list to grab 64 bit, and reinstall from there. Thanks for helping me find my error on this one. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Fri Dec 12 19:40:23 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:40:23 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812122040.23858.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Friday 12 December 2008 13:58, Jonas Norlander wrote: > It looks like todays update to kaffeine in Intrepid did remove the > binary /usr/bin/kaffeine. > Can some other confirm it? > > / Jonas Hi Jonas. That's a bit odd. I did have xine installed, but not Kaffeine. I havn't updated Intrepid since 20081113, so Installed Kaffeine with an apt-get install kaffeine. then did an apt-get update, followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. Said NO to the upgrade, as there are 212MB of packages waiting to be updated (will do that overnight on dialup). There's no mention of the Kaffeine I've just installed being removed though, due to the waiting updates. 154 upgraded, 4 newly installed (kernel, kernel headers, etc), 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded. At the moment /usr/bin/kaffeine exists There is a whole bunch of KDE packages that are waiting to be updated, and I have seen an update to kde-libs resulting in a package being removed for some reason or other. I'll post back tomorrow sometime, after the apt-get dist-upgrade has run to completion, and check if /usr/bin/kaffeine still exists. I save all the history from updates, so if anyone wants to view it, I'll post it to the list. If this is a problem with kdelibs, and kaffeine, hopefully it will be resolved soon. Nigel. From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Fri Dec 12 19:57:02 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:57:02 +0100 Subject: Amarok does not load Message-ID: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid ELF header how can I solve this? -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 19:56:37 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:56:37 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812121343.13633.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <880dece00812120808qc9b6698mdfa1badaee5eaa8d@mail.gmail.com> <200812121734.24371.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812121343.13633.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Art Alexion : > On Friday 12 December 2008 11:34:24 am lanzen wrote: >> On Friday 12 December 2008 17:08:00 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > You should read this first: >> > http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 >> >> Interesting article Dotan, thanks. >> >> As a matter of fact, there seems to be a possible hack #2 in getting >> openoffice.org-kde to work nicely in Kubuntu until the guys at launchpad >> get it together to fix it, though they seem (rightly so) too busy with >> Amarok. >> >> This is it >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6355296#post6355296 >> posts #42 and #34. >> >> Anyone interested, please be cautious! > > I seemed to have no choice but to install from the OOo site, as the ppa does > not provide a 64 bit version. The 32 bit version from the ppa will run, but > complain about java (because 64 bit kubuntu installs 64 bit java that it > can't find) It do have 64 bit! I installed from PPA on my Kubuntu Intrepid amd64. $ file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Are there a bug somewhere or is it a user error because you are the second to say there is no 64 bit? / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:03:48 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:03:48 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <4942A6C6.1020601@michaelzoet.de> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> <4942A6C6.1020601@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > Michael Zoet schrieb: >> Michael schrieb: >> >>> Peter Shepherd wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> Once you have Mepis running, copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to a USB >>> stick or floppy if your computer has one. After loading K/Ubuntu, get >>> to the shell by hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. >>> >> Please press Alt+CNTRL+F1 instead! You might not get a shell if you >> press ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. > What I forgot: > > The X-Server creates an extended logfile. At the end of this logfile > normally X prints the reason why it is not starting. This info could be > helpful for people on this list! > > Logfile location: /var/log/Xorg.0.log > If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). If it crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in ~/.xsession-error file. / Jonas From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Fri Dec 12 20:22:34 2008 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:22:34 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> <4942A6C6.1020601@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: <4942C80A.7090303@michaelzoet.de> Jonas Norlander schrieb: > 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > >> ... > > If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not > a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). Ok for me it sounds like he gets no display with Kubuntu. But even if he gets a display, X writes continously to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. And there might be some error messages even if you get a display. If there are any problems, it is 95% likely it gets logged to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Looking there should be the first start with X problems! > If it > crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in > ~/.xsession-error file. > Maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-error. But if he gets an X Display and can log in and then I do not see the problems ;-). Or better it is probably a weird X problem... Michael From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 12 20:24:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:24:27 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox Message-ID: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I am re-posting, because I may have a bug in my Kmail client. I believe I have located the problem in my email to Outbox problem, however, it has to do with an irregularity in my email address and server identity. My email address is stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net. It has remained that way, and has continued as my email address, even after at&t became my server. I believe this is the area of confusion in my kmail program. I just noticed a peculiarity in the warning I get when mail is sent to the Outbox. Here is the box that comes on the screen: Sending failed: Connection to host smtp.att.yahoo.com is broken. The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: Sbcglobal.net Notice that the transport protocol is indicated as Sbcglobal.net. I believer there are two errors in the protocol. If sbcglobal.net is the appropriate protocol, wouldn't it be small [s]? If it should be att.yahoo.com, would that not be the confusion. Is perhaps Kmail taking this particular address from my email address as opposed to the sender Host at&t? In kmail configuration, there is no place where I have indicated Sbcglobal.net as anything but my email address, and then with a small [s] as shown above, when I typed my email address in this email. If my contention is correct, how do I fix the problem? I did not make an entry that can be corrected. Steven From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:24:11 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:24:11 +0100 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Peter Klaassen : > Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 > > error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid ELF header > > how can I solve this? The file could have become corrupted so you could try to reinstall it. libGL that looks like it's a OpenGL library. Try to search for installed libraries related to opengl that you have installed and reinstall them. Could be nvidia restricted drivers to. This is the package that have a libGL.so file from my system: $ apt-file search libGL.so captury: /usr/lib/captury/libGL.so captury: /usr/lib/captury/libGL.so.1 ia32-libs: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 ia32-libs: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 libgl1-mesa-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 libgl1-mesa-swx11: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 libgl1-mesa-swx11: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.5.070200 libgl1-mesa-swx11-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.5.070200 libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so lsb-build-base3: /usr/lib/lsb3/libGL.so nvidia-glx-173: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-173: /usr/lib/libGL.so.173.14.12 nvidia-glx-173: /usr/lib32/libGL.so nvidia-glx-173: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-173: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.173.14.12 nvidia-glx-173-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib/libGL.so.177.80 nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib32/libGL.so nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.177.80 nvidia-glx-177-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so nvidia-glx-71: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-71: /usr/lib/libGL.so.71.86.04 nvidia-glx-71: /usr/lib32/libGL.so nvidia-glx-71: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-71: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.71.86.04 nvidia-glx-71-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib/libGL.so.96.43.05 nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib/libGL.so.96.43.09 nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib32/libGL.so nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.96.43.05 nvidia-glx-96: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.96.43.09 nvidia-glx-96-dev: /usr/lib/libGL.so xorg-driver-fglrx: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 xorg-driver-fglrx: /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 or run... $ LANG="C" dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 diversion by nvidia-glx-177 from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 diversion by nvidia-glx-177 to: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 So for me the /usr/lib/libGL.so.1file belongs to the nvidia-glx-177 package. $ apt-cache show nvidia-glx-177 Package: nvidia-glx-177 Priority: optional Section: restricted/misc Installed-Size: 46144 Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers Original-Maintainer: Debian NVIDIA Maintainers Architecture: amd64 Source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 Version: 177.80-0ubuntu2 / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:34:47 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:34:47 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine removed with todays update In-Reply-To: <200812122040.23858.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <200812122040.23858.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Nigel Henry : > On Friday 12 December 2008 13:58, Jonas Norlander wrote: >> It looks like todays update to kaffeine in Intrepid did remove the >> binary /usr/bin/kaffeine. >> Can some other confirm it? >> >> / Jonas > > Hi Jonas. > > That's a bit odd. I did have xine installed, but not Kaffeine. I havn't > updated Intrepid since 20081113, so Installed Kaffeine with an apt-get > install kaffeine. then did an apt-get update, followed by apt-get > dist-upgrade. Said NO to the upgrade, as there are 212MB of packages waiting > to be updated (will do that overnight on dialup). There's no mention of the > Kaffeine I've just installed being removed though, due to the waiting > updates. This is fixed in kaffeine - 0.8.7-1ubuntu2 but its not in backports yet. >From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307175 This bug was fixed in the package kaffeine - 0.8.7-1ubuntu2 --------------- kaffeine (0.8.7-1ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low * Fix files not installed (LP: #307175): - re-add DEB_DESTDIR line (Debian doesn't use a kaffeine.install file) - change dir from tmp to kaffeine in kaffeine-gstreamer.install -- Cesare Tirabassi Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:39:42 +0100 / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:40:08 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:40:08 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell In-Reply-To: <4942C80A.7090303@michaelzoet.de> References: <22e319260812120646x1d4827do1ef1d359847cf1b5@mail.gmail.com> <49428483.8000908@gmail.com> <4942A1F2.7010003@michaelzoet.de> <4942A6C6.1020601@michaelzoet.de> <4942C80A.7090303@michaelzoet.de> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > Jonas Norlander schrieb: >> 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : >> >>> ... >> >> If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not >> a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). > Ok for me it sounds like he gets no display with Kubuntu. But even if he > gets a display, X writes continously to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. And there > might be some error messages even if you get a display. If there are any > problems, it is 95% likely it gets logged to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > Looking there should be the first start with X problems! >> If it >> crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in >> ~/.xsession-error file. >> > Maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-error. But if he gets an X > Display and can log in and then I do not see the problems ;-). Or better > it is probably a weird X problem... > > Michael > As I understand it it crashes when he logging in or do I thinking on a other thread? Perhaps i should read the OP :-) / Jonas From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Dec 12 20:43:14 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:43:14 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812121543.14972.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 12 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > I am re-posting, because I may have a bug in my Kmail client. I believe I > have located the problem in my email to Outbox problem, however, it has to > do with an irregularity in my email address and server identity. > First of all Steven, I think you ought to go easy on assuming (and reporting) that everything you see is a bug. It kind of rubs the wrong way when I (and a lot of others) have been using Kmail for over 8 years and have seen very few problems if any. First assume it is something you either misunderstand or have done wrong. Sorry, but that would probably over 95% of your 'situations'. > My email address is stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net. It has remained that way, > and has continued as my email address, even after at&t became my server. I > believe this is the area of confusion in my kmail program. I just noticed > a peculiarity in the warning I get when mail is sent to the Outbox. Here > is the box that comes on the screen: > > Sending failed: > Connection to host smtp.att.yahoo.com is broken. > The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the > problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' > folder. The following transport protocol was used: > Sbcglobal.net > In this case, you misunderstand... Sbcglobal.net is the NAME you gave to this particular 'sending account' and has nothing to do with the information required to actually talk to that account. You can 'name' an account anything you want.... > Notice that the transport protocol is indicated as Sbcglobal.net. I > believer there are two errors in the protocol. If sbcglobal.net is the > appropriate protocol, wouldn't it be small [s]? If it should be > att.yahoo.com, would that not be the confusion. Is perhaps Kmail taking > this particular address from my email address as opposed to the sender Host > at&t? > So either this account is flakey (it sometimes works) or if it doesn't work at all you have probably supplied the wrong connection information. > In kmail configuration, there is no place where I have indicated > Sbcglobal.net as anything but my email address, and then with a small [s] > as shown above, when I typed my email address in this email. > I think you are wrong on this. Check the 'name' on the account. > If my contention is correct, how do I fix the problem? I did not make an > entry that can be corrected. > > Steven Provide the right information and learn what you are doing. :-) From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Fri Dec 12 20:52:13 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:52:13 +0100 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: <200812122152.13231.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Friday 12 December 2008 21:24:11 schreef Jonas Norlander: > The file could have become corrupted so you could try to reinstall it. > libGL that looks like it's a OpenGL library. Try to search for > installed libraries related to opengl that you have installed and > reinstall them. Could be nvidia restricted drivers to. > Jonas, You are right. I reinstalled my downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run under runlevel 3 and with KDM not loaded. All problems solved: I also coudl not set the KDE desktop screensaver. Came with the same error. As above file creates a kernel module, what will happen is the update managers comes with a new kernel. Do I have to in install the NVIDIA again all the times?? for your info: peter at schagen:~$ apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new Package: nvidia-glx-new Priority: optional Section: restricted/misc Installed-Size: 27636 Maintainer: Ubuntu Kernel Team Architecture: amd64 Source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24.14-22.53) Version: 169.12+2.6.24.14-22.53 Replaces: nvidia-glx-src Provides: nvidia-glx, xserver-xorg-video-2 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3), libgl1-mesa | libgl1, libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libx11-6, libxext6, linux-restricted-modules-common, xserver-xorg-core (>= 1:0.99.0-1) Suggests: nvidia-new-kernel-source (>= 169.12), nvidia-settings Conflicts: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-src, nvidia-xconfig Filename: pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+2.6.24.14-22.53_amd64.deb Size: 9371262 MD5sum: 638e0bad19fefce3dab84c2e3bfde6c7 SHA1: 4522bb93061596b22fafe542f60f6070024d0664 SHA256: 05acd32bdfbf83c95439134ce4fc3bea447c21833cc892b385340c043746d845 Description: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver These XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration of OpenGL applications via a direct-rendering X Server and supports the newer GeForce, nForce and Quadro families of NVIDIA chipsets. AGP, TV-out and flat panel displays are also supported. . If you have a TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy package instead of this one. If you have a GeForce4, you may need the nvidia-glx package. Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Origin: Ubuntu thanks -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 20:58:05 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:58:05 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812121343.13633.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812121558.09866.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 2:56:37 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: > > I seemed to have no choice but to install from the OOo site, as the ppa > > does not provide a 64 bit version.  The 32 bit version from the ppa will > > run, but complain about java (because 64 bit kubuntu installs 64 bit java > > that it can't find) > > It do have 64 bit! I installed from PPA on my Kubuntu Intrepid amd64. > > $ file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin > /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, > x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked > (uses shared libs), stripped > > Are there a bug somewhere or is it a user error because you are the > second to say there is no 64 bit? You are correct. It is 64 bit from the ppa. So now that is installed, but how do I get 64 bit java working with it? I seem to have only 32 bit installed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 12 20:59:47 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: Amarok does not load References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/12 Peter Klaassen : >> Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 >> >> error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid >> ELF header >> >> how can I solve this? > > The file could have become corrupted so you could try to reinstall it. > libGL that looks like it's a OpenGL library. ... > $ LANG="C" dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > diversion by nvidia-glx-177 from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > diversion by nvidia-glx-177 to: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa > libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 > > So for me the /usr/lib/libGL.so.1file belongs to the nvidia-glx-177 > package. Surely that's backwards? /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is in libgl1-mesa-glx, and nvidia-glx-177 is making it use something else (though that could mean that the nvidia* package and its diversion would be the real problem). Only the mesa package is supplying it on my system, but then I just purged the nvidia-glx stuff this week. -- derek From kassube at gmx.net Fri Dec 12 21:04:19 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:04:19 +0100 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812122204.19713.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > My email address is stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net. It has remained that > way, and has continued as my email address, even after at&t became my > server. I believe this is the area of confusion in my kmail program. > I just noticed a peculiarity in the warning I get when mail is sent to > the Outbox. Here is the box that comes on the screen: > > Sending failed: > Connection to host smtp.att.yahoo.com is broken. > The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the > problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' > folder. The following transport protocol was used: > Sbcglobal.net > > In kmail configuration, there is no place where I have indicated > Sbcglobal.net as anything but my email address, and then with a small > [s] as shown above, when I typed my email address in this email. Sbcglobal.net is the name for your account within Kmail. It is not the server used. Go to the Kmail configuration and have a look at your account name. It should be Sbcglobal.net and if you click on the "modify" button you can see which server would be used. I think your problem has nothing to do with your configuration. Sometimes I can see the same error if my router isn't online when I click the send button. Then it takes more time to connect to the server than the timeout allows. However I don't know which timeout it is exactly or where to set the timeout to a higher value. Actually it happens only rather seldom, so I don't really care and just tell kmail to send the outbox contents again. Nils From paul at lemmons.name Fri Dec 12 21:23:03 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:23:03 -0700 Subject: Synchronizing music Message-ID: <4942D637.4070607@lemmons.name> I got a new MP3 player (Sansa Fuse 4GB + 4GB micro SD). After fiddling with it a bit and setting the USB to be MSC mode instead of MTP it connects to Ibex flawlessly. Yea! I then connected to it using Amarok and copied a bunch of music to it: Roughly 7GB. I noticed that there were too many categories represented by the ID3-TAGS and some album art was missing. So I spent some time updating ID tags and Album art. Now, I want to update what is on the MP3 player and I don't see how. Unless I am missing something, it appears that Amarok is nothing more than a glorified file manager. There does not seem to be a way to "sync" my music. So, the question is simple... How do I "sync" updates such as ID3 Tags and Album art without formatting the device and going completely through the selection process again? -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I installed from PPA on my Kubuntu Intrepid amd64. > Jonas, doesn't it crash on opening a file? -- lanzen From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 22:52:44 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:52:44 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812122251.00790.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812121343.13633.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812122251.00790.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 lanzen : > On Friday 12 December 2008 20:56:37 Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> It do have 64 bit! I installed from PPA on my Kubuntu Intrepid amd64. >> > > Jonas, doesn't it crash on opening a file? > Well the latest version do crash if i have openoffice.org-kde installed, after removing it i can use it again but without the "KDE". I can live with it until it's fixed. Changing the "Icons - format" options to Crystal gives me the KDE icons. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 23:01:01 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:01:01 +0100 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/12 Derek Broughton : > Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> 2008/12/12 Peter Klaassen : >>> Kubuntu HH 8.04 KDE 3.5 >>> >>> error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: invalid >>> ELF header >>> >>> how can I solve this? >> >> The file could have become corrupted so you could try to reinstall it. >> libGL that looks like it's a OpenGL library. > ... >> $ LANG="C" dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 >> diversion by nvidia-glx-177 from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 >> diversion by nvidia-glx-177 to: /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa >> libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx-177: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 >> >> So for me the /usr/lib/libGL.so.1file belongs to the nvidia-glx-177 >> package. > > Surely that's backwards? /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is in libgl1-mesa-glx, > and nvidia-glx-177 is making it use something else (though that could > mean that the nvidia* package and its diversion would be the real > problem). > > Only the mesa package is supplying it on my system, but then I just > purged the nvidia-glx stuff this week. > -- > derek > I'm not sure how to interpret that output but i know that when installing the nvidia drivers downloaded from there site and installing it will backup the files from mesa and install its own opengl libraries (at least thats how it used to be) and my guess is it's whats done here and the output mean. / Jonas From lanzenesi at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 23:23:35 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:23:35 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812122251.00790.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812130023.41326.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 23:52:44 Jonas Norlander wrote: > Well the latest version do crash if i have openoffice.org-kde > installed, after removing it i can use it again but without the "KDE". > I can live with it until it's fixed. Changing the "Icons - format" > options to Crystal gives me the KDE icons. Well, it looks as there's a temporary fix unfortunately for 386 only: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516 -- lanzen From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Fri Dec 12 23:45:57 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:45:57 -0500 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems Message-ID: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> I am helping somebody brand new to linux so I started him off with Kubuntu 8.10 (imagine that on this list!). Everything was going fine, he really likes Amarok 2.0. Then I ran into some problems. I'm waiting for KDE 4.2 before I upgrade so I'm not too familiar with all the changes. He wanted to look at all his hard drives/partitions and also add some programs. I went to Dolphin (& Konq) and tried typed in system:/media/ and it said the protocol 'system' is not supported. I was also having a hard time finding anything in Adept. I searched for vlc and could not find it in the list that was returned. I do not understand how the tags and such work since when I clicked on what I thought was the right one, I still did not see the vlc player. (at least I got to give him a lesson on how to use the command line to install things so it was not a total loss) So I have two questions that I hope somebody can help me with, I googled but did not find any real answers. 1- What replaces system:/media/ in KDE4? In KDE3 it's 'Storage Media' from the icon next to the Kmenu. 2- How do I clearly get the packages I search for to show up in the list on the right in Adept? Is there a tutorial on the new tagging system or something? Thank you in advance. Alan -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 00:05:49 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:05:49 +0100 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/13 Alan Dacey : > I am helping somebody brand new to linux so I started him off with > Kubuntu 8.10 (imagine that on this list!). Everything was going fine, > he really likes Amarok 2.0. Then I ran into some problems. I'm waiting > for KDE 4.2 before I upgrade so I'm not too familiar with all the > changes. He wanted to look at all his hard drives/partitions and also > add some programs. I went to Dolphin (& Konq) and tried typed in > system:/media/ and it said the protocol 'system' is not supported. I > was also having a hard time finding anything in Adept. I searched for > vlc and could not find it in the list that was returned. I do not > understand how the tags and such work since when I clicked on what I > thought was the right one, I still did not see the vlc player. (at > least I got to give him a lesson on how to use the command line to > install things so it was not a total loss) So I have two questions that > I hope somebody can help me with, I googled but did not find any real > answers. > > 1- What replaces system:/media/ in KDE4? In KDE3 it's 'Storage Media' > from the icon next to the Kmenu. > 2- How do I clearly get the packages I search for to show up in the list > on the right in Adept? Is there a tutorial on the new tagging system or > something? I don't like to install gnome stuff in kubuntu but the new Adept is almost useless so if he wants a GUI i suggest install synaptic if he can use CLI use aptitude. / Jonas From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 13 00:19:53 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:19:53 -0600 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> On 12/12/2008 Alan Dacey wrote: > 2- How do I clearly get the packages I search for to show up in the > list > on the right in Adept? Is there a tutorial on the new tagging system > or > something? > Forget about Adept. They've totally trashed it. Practically worthless now. Use Synaptic. It should be installed by default. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sat Dec 13 00:35:39 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:35:39 -0500 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > On 12/12/2008 Alan Dacey wrote: >> 2- How do I clearly get the packages I search for to show up in the >> list >> on the right in Adept? Is there a tutorial on the new tagging system >> or >> something? >> > > Forget about Adept. They've totally trashed it. Practically worthless > now. Use Synaptic. It should be installed by default. > So in other words, Adept=0 I was thinking about Synaptic but I wanted to see if there was a magic trick to make it work first. It's butt-ugly but it does work very well. -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 13 01:10:16 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:10:16 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812121543.14972.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812121543.14972.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812122010.16417.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > First of all Steven, I think you ought to go easy on assuming (and > reporting) that everything you see is a bug. It kind of rubs the wrong way > when I (and a lot of others) have been using Kmail for over 8 years and > have seen very few problems if any. Since that was the very first time I have even suggested the possibility of a bug in any Linux package, I would like you to copy and paste evidence of what you just said to this forum. Additionally, I did not assume nor report a bug, I said thought there may be a bug. I do not presume that much knowledge, it just appeared a possibility. And when I knew that I never included any Sbcglobal.net identity for anything in any mail program, it looked like the possibility existed that an instruction which may work without problem in most cases, might work differently if a persons email address differed from an account name of Your 8 years + is the reason I came to you. I assure you I will never do anything, on purpose that hurts the reputation of Kubuntu or KDE. Without them I could not have a computer. I was sincere in my evaluation of a potential bug; if a reality, I would think it important to acknowledge and fix. Perhaps you can give me an example of me thinking I am wise in the use of Linux or able to be a teacher. I know that has never happened, because I do not believe that; and I try to be exactly accurate in everything I say. If you don't like me and are trying to pick a fight, it won't work. Before I will hurt this forum that has blessed my life so much, I will discontinue using it. > First assume it is something you either misunderstand or have done wrong. > Sorry, but that would probably over 95% of your 'situations'. In my opinion, more like 99.999% true. > Sending failed: > Connection to host smtp.att.yahoo.com is broken. > The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the > problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' > folder. The following transport protocol was used: > Sbcglobal.net This is information placed in a box with an OK at the bottom that the computer generated, not something I wrote from my intelligence. >Sbcglobal.net is the NAME you gave to > this particular 'sending account' That is simply not true. I don't mean any disrespect, but I have never named my account Sbcglobal.net. I named it Studio25, and always have for about 15 years now. > > Notice that the transport protocol is indicated as Sbcglobal.net. It was because I noticed that that I wrote of a possible problem. I never did name it Sbcglobal.net, so I did not understand where that came from. And just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean I am not still wrong, I just don't know how, or what I may have mis-entered. I went over the configuration several times before I wrote the post, because it is embarrassing to be wrong so much as I am. I also thought if Sbcglobal.net was the correct name, somehow the fact that the computer generated message included the name with a capital 'S', might make a difference. I am aware that Linux is very case sensitive. > So either this account is flakey (it sometimes works) or if it doesn't work > at all you have probably supplied the wrong connection information. Not having your experience, I copied the configuration directly from working configuration on my Thunderbird account. Then I answered and repeated that fact more than one half dozen to other kind helpers from the List in their response to my post. Strange, but it is common for people to complain about my self-deprecation, you are among the rarest of people to suggest, for lack of a more appropriate word, arrogance. Maybe ' know-it-all' is what you are trying to say. I sincerely have never had feelings of self worth that would justify that. Since I want you to see exactly what is written, I will send a png to your private account and will retain a copy for any who read this upon request. > Provide the right information and learn what you are doing. I doubt you ever tried harder to do what you just told me. I am on a 20 hour day trying to do just that. I am not gifted intellectually, so it is probably more difficult for me than it would be for you, but I would be happy to provide you screen prints of the configuration of every page of my Kmail client, if that would satisfy your accusations. I apologize to the List, however, the only thing that can raise my dander is false accusation. I don't do it to anyone. For some reason it is difficult for me to back off when it happens to me. I love this List, and even mostly respect the author of this criticism. He contributes a lot for the benefit of others. I cannot think of anything I have said or done on this forum that could offend anyone. If I have, I sincerely apologize. Sincerely, Steven From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Dec 13 01:43:52 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:43:52 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812122010.16417.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812121543.14972.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812122010.16417.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812122043.53060.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 12 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > Since that was the very first time I have even suggested the possibility of > a bug in any Linux package, I would like you to copy and paste evidence of > what you just said to this forum.  Additionally, I did not assume nor > report a bug, I said thought there may be a bug.  I do not presume that > much knowledge, it just appeared a possibility. Ok....... (and no, this isn't the first time you have reported a 'bug') Today 03:24:27 PM I am re-posting, because I may have a bug in my Kmail client.  I believe I have located the problem in my email to Outbox problem, however, it has to do with an irregularity in my email address and server identity. My email address is stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net.  It has remained that way, and has continued as my email address, even after at&t became my server.  I believe this is the area of confusion in my kmail program.  I just noticed a peculiarity in the warning I get when mail is sent to the Outbox.  Here is the box that comes on the screen: Sending failed: Connection to host smtp.att.yahoo.com is broken. The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: Sbcglobal.net Notice that the transport protocol is indicated as Sbcglobal.net.  I believer there are two errors in the protocol.  If sbcglobal.net is the appropriate protocol, wouldn't it be small [s]?  If it should be att.yahoo.com, would that not be the confusion.  Is perhaps Kmail taking this particular address from my email address as opposed to the sender Host at&t? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 13 01:46:55 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:46:55 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812122204.19713.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122204.19713.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812122046.55455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Sbcglobal.net is the name for your account within Kmail. Nils, the name of my account is Steven Vollom, the Organization is Studio25. The only other names I have used for an account is my email address, one time, and Studio25, several times. >Go to the Kmail configuration and have a look at your > account name. I did; it is 'Steven Vollom'. I am also familiar with my server, both pop. and smtp. att.yahoo.com. > It should be Sbcglobal.net This I do not understand. Do I name my account or does the mail client. I remember typing in the words, which were never Sbcglobal.net. I don't even remember ever typing sbcglobal.net with a capital 's' because of case sensitivity. I sent a png of my Account Name to Bruce, do you want me to send you one to your personal email address. Don't you understand, it is because I can not find anything to show Sbcglobal.net as a name for my account or anything else, that I considered the possibility of a bug. It seems reasonable that the jelousy of a company to get their name out there in all cases would make unlikely that att.yahoo.com would'nt have me change my email address from stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net to stevenvollom at att.yahoo.com. I have seen many individuals with the later email address type. But that is not the case with me. The only change they had me make was to change pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com to pop.att.yahoo.com. Same with smtp. That was done years ago. Perhaps my post is not clear. But it seems probably a simple word change to correct the issue if it is one. I truly am only trying to contribute, not criticize. >Sometimes I can see the same error if my router isn't online when I click the send button. I haven't removed Thunderbird yet from my computer. It contains some technical and personal emails in its records that I don't want to lose, and I haven't figured out how to transfer them yet, but I opened Thunderbird and sent a few hours of emails to see if it had connection problems with the server. Never once did it send an email to the Outbox. Never once did it linger in sending at all. Each time I send using Kmail there is a prolonged delay. It is not something I cannot live with, because otherwise I prefer the program, but it happens every time. I was looking for anything peculiar to my configuration might have cause conflict with the programmers instructions. Because I cannot change my email address with my server, I thought if it was a programming error that rarely happened, it still may be an error programmers would want to remove. I just don't know how they think. Am I talking in a way that offends, right now? I can't figure out why Bruce is doing this. If you know what it is, tell me? I am thick skinned. I will change. Someone complained about my post length and taught me how to trim. Isn't it noticed how careful I am to change the things that I do wrong? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 13 01:55:45 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:55:45 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812122043.53060.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122010.16417.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122043.53060.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812122055.45139.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Ok....... (and no, this isn't the first time you have reported a 'bug') That is the second time you have falsely accused me. Print the other time, or times. And why do you insist on keeping this childish matter on the List. I have a private email address if you choose to argue. > I am re-posting, because I may have a bug in my Kmail client.   There is a big difference in saying I have a bug, and saying I MAY have a bug. I was careful to include the MAY because I wasn't sure. In any case it doesn't exclude the possibility nor confirm it. I was leaving that up to the gurus of the List. Steven From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Dec 13 02:07:10 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:07:10 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812122055.45139.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122043.53060.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812122055.45139.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812122107.10761.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 12 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > > Ok....... (and no, this isn't the first time you have reported a 'bug') > > That is the second time you have falsely accused me. Print the other time, > or times. And why do you insist on keeping this childish matter on the > List. I have a private email address if you choose to argue. > > > I am re-posting, because I may have a bug in my Kmail client.   > > There is a big difference in saying I have a bug, and saying I MAY have a > bug. I was careful to include the MAY because I wasn't sure. In any case > it doesn't exclude the possibility nor confirm it. I was leaving that up > to the gurus of the List. > > Steven End of story.... I'm not going to enter a pissing contest with you. Go on your way, fella. I will not respond to anything further from you. From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 06:47:41 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:47:41 +0100 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: If you just type aptitude on the CLI you will get an intresting gui with a lot of power and that leads naturally to the short cut of using it as a CLI program. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Dec 13 07:12:28 2008 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:12:28 -0800 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> Knapp wrote: > If you just type aptitude on the CLI you will get an intresting gui > with a lot of power and that leads naturally to the short cut of using > it as a CLI program. While I am a fan of aptitude (long time Debian user, so natch) but I = fail to see how adept is that bad? Specifically Alan was looking for vlc. I = just opened Adept, typed in "vlc" in the search, clicked on "multimedia" and i= t was 4th option. Granted this was on 4.2 but the 4.1 version was not any diff= erent in this regard. --=20 Steve C. Lamb | I am not a nice man... see link... -------------------------------+-----------------------------------------= ---- | http://greydmiyu.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/i-am-not-a-nice-man/ = | -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 13 07:54:35 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:54:35 +0100 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812122046.55455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122204.19713.kassube@gmx.net> <200812122046.55455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812130854.36015.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > Sbcglobal.net is the name for your account within Kmail. > > Nils, the name of my account is Steven Vollom, the Organization is > Studio25. The only other names I have used for an account is my email > address, one time, and Studio25, several times. OK, you may be right because I can't see your settings. OTOH, maybe I wasn't clear which account name I was referring to. Please go to "Settings" -> "Configure Kmail ...". There select "Accounts" and select the tab "Sending". Now I would expect you can see the account name Kmail uses for sending mail. It has nothing to do with your account name at your provider. unless you have manually changed this name, it was derived from your email address when you created the account, i.e. Kmail uses the domain of your email address with a capital first letter. And this is the name which I see in the error message when I try to send mail while the network isn't available. > I sent a png of my Account > Name to Bruce, do you want me to send you one to your personal email > address. If my explanation above doesn't clarify the account name issue, please send the picture. Nils From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sat Dec 13 09:07:17 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:07:17 +0000 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> It do have 64 bit! I installed from PPA on my Kubuntu Intrepid amd64. $ file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Are there a bug somewhere or is it a user error because you are the second to say there is no 64 bit? / Jonas ------- I've got kubuntu 8.10 on a 64bit amd, I installed openoffice.org using adept and I've had no trouble with it so far, reads all my MS word files. runs all incoming MS .pps files beautifully. Must admit, though, that I use Kate mostly, far simpler for my moth eaten memory. brian From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 09:19:24 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:19:24 +0100 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> References: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812131019.33862.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008 10:07:17 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > I've got kubuntu 8.10 on a 64bit amd, I installed openoffice.org using > adept and I've had no trouble with it so far, reads all my MS word files. > runs all incoming MS .pps files beautifully. No crashes? You must be taking about 2.4. -- lanzen From stevebakerj at freeuk.com Sat Dec 13 09:52:35 2008 From: stevebakerj at freeuk.com (Stephen Baker) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:52:35 +0000 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812130023.41326.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812122251.00790.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812130023.41326.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494385E3.30409@freeuk.com> lanzen wrote thus: > Well, it looks as there's a temporary fix unfortunately for 386 only: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516 Thanks lanzen, suggested temp fix has got 28 people back on track with there homework. -- Steve The goal of all inanimate objects is to resist man and ultimately defeat him. Russell Baker From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Sat Dec 13 11:08:01 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:08:01 +0000 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812131108.01771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Friday 12 December 2008 20:59:47 Derek Broughton wrote: > Only the mesa package is supplying it on my system, but then I just > purged the nvidia-glx stuff this week. > -- > derek What do you mean by "purged"? nepal. From valtermura at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 11:46:08 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:46:08 +0100 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <49364EAD.4020006@gmail.com> <200812031103.19034.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200812131246.09002.valtermura@gmail.com> Il mercoledì 3 dicembre 2008 12:03:18 nepal ha scritto: > On Wednesday 03 December 2008 09:17:33 O. Sinclair wrote: > > what is your problem with the send function? Normally I click on the > > "security" tab and then hits "check what the server supports" and after > > some waiting I am good. I use both TLS and normal port 25 smtp as well > > as one provider where I have a unique port open. > > > > Sinclair > > so are you saying you have three different transports available? > > I couldn't get this to work correctly either, It drove me so nuts yesterday > I gave up on it and installed 7.10 on a separate drive. Then when I got it > working there I went back to 8.04 and retried, got send to work, but it > still f***s about with the transport to use for the send and invariably > chooses the wrong one. So I found with googlemail that I could set that up > to access my other (ISP) mail accounts and did it that way and now just > have a single transport. Incidentally, googlemail says set the port to 465 > which doesn't work, but if I hit "check what the server supports" it sets > the port to 25, TLS,PLAIN, and does work. go figure eh. I also noticed in > 8.04 that some of the changes made to the kmail settings are not reflected > instantly and that is part of the reason kmail was so f****ing awkward > yesterday. So strange... never had problems with my providers, except for Yahoo! that didn't allow me to send mail (I can receive) months ago (I changed it with Google). And I'm talking about KMail in Kubuntu 7.04/7.10/8.04/8.10 (in which actually I am) Check first of all on server's side, than in your local settings. the same reply is targeted also to Steven. Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From valtermura at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 11:52:11 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:52:11 +0100 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <49373821.7040603@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4920268.CziCiciREp@cedar.serverforest.com> <49373821.7040603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812131252.12076.valtermura@gmail.com> Il giovedì 4 dicembre 2008 02:53:37 Steven Vollom ha scritto: > > I wish I could get kmail working. It will be the first time I use > Kubuntu and KDE exclusively. I have come to believe that using their > packages until you get used to them will allow their true genius to > appear. It has so far in all the other Kubuntu-KDE programs I have > learned to use. Including Dolphin for me. I can remember the change > and how I resisted. Now I can't remember what I so needed in Feisty. > Konqueror and Kmail have been my holdouts, I am ashamed to say. Those > who have conquered them have only good things to say about them. I am > sure I will agree, once I have given them a fair chance. > > Cordially, > Steven Hi Steven, is stcglobal.net the same provider for the mail or do you use another provider to connect to Internet? Could you log in your mail server and retrieve the settings for it? Is the POP function activated in the server? Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 12:24:38 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:24:38 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <494385E3.30409@freeuk.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130023.41326.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <494385E3.30409@freeuk.com> Message-ID: <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Saturday 13 December 2008 04:52 Stephen Baker wrote: > lanzen wrote thus: > > Well, it looks as there's a temporary fix unfortunately for 386 only: > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516 > > Thanks lanzen, suggested temp fix has got 28 people back on track with > there homework. > This thread has gotten very difficult to follow because of its length Could someone please confirm: Updating to the current (13-Dec, 12:15GMT) ppa versions of OO 3.0 (from the prior 3.0 ppa version) on kubuntu 8.10, 32-bit still breaks OO? The problem seems to be with the openoffice.org-kde package? Replacing the current version of openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org- kde_3.0.0-5_i386 will fix the break? (at [possibly] until this package gets updated). If this is not the case, could you please post complete instructions to fix. Thanks, Paul From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 12:28:16 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:28:16 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/6 Willy Hamra : > 2008/12/5 Dotan Cohen : >> In Hardy with KDE 4, there was a fuzzy clock applet just like in KDE >> 3. In Intrepid I cannot find the applet. Does anyone know how to get >> it back? Thanks. >> > > i do have the fuzzy clock dotan :S > search with apt-cache for plasmoids. there's a package that contains a > set of standard plasmoids that comes with KDE4, i think the fuzzy > clock is one of them > Do you have any idea what that package is called? I cannot find anything that looks relevant. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 13:43:39 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:43:39 +0100 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <49436136.8070001@dmiyu.org> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <49436136.8070001@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: 2008/12/13 Steve Lamb : > Alan Dacey wrote: >> 1- What replaces system:/media/ in KDE4? In KDE3 it's 'Storage Media' >> from the icon next to the Kmenu. > > It's not system;, it is file. EG: file:/media/ > It was system:/media in KDE 3 and it uses the KIO slaves to browse connected media devices. There is no such thing yet in KDE4 as far as i know. The file:/media you referring to is not the same thing, that just browse the /media directory and you cant see all devices there. / Jonas From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 13:48:18 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:48:18 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4943BD22.2010208@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/6 Willy Hamra : >> 2008/12/5 Dotan Cohen : >>> In Hardy with KDE 4, there was a fuzzy clock applet just like in KDE >>> 3. In Intrepid I cannot find the applet. Does anyone know how to get >>> it back? Thanks. >>> >> i do have the fuzzy clock dotan :S >> search with apt-cache for plasmoids. there's a package that contains a >> set of standard plasmoids that comes with KDE4, i think the fuzzy >> clock is one of them >> > > Do you have any idea what that package is called? I cannot find > anything that looks relevant. Thanks. > if i'm not mistaken, it's kdeplasma-addons. i'm now using KDE 4.2 from the kubuntu-experimental repo, and fuzzy clock is still working and available :S -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes. > Replacing the current version of openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org- > kde_3.0.0-5_i386 will fix the break? (at [possibly] until this package gets > updated). The current version being openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1, the previous version will cure it in kubuntu (If I recall correctly it will have bugs in gnome). I'm not sure whether it's named 3.0.0-5, but it's the one that got withdrawn due to gnome incompatibilities. > If this is not the case, could you please post complete instructions to > fix. Make sure you have openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 than follow the instructions at post #49 in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516&page=5 Copy & paste follows: cd ~ sudo -v [ ! -f /usr/bin/alien ] && sudo apt-get install alien wget ftp://194.94.120.8/pub/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org- kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb alien -t openoffice.org-kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb ( cd / ; sudo tar xvfz ~/openoffice.org-kde-3.0.0.tgz \ ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/kdebe1.uno.so \ ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_kdeli.so ) -- lanzen From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Sat Dec 13 14:32:00 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:32:00 +0100 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <200812131532.00720.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Saturday 13 December 2008 01:35:39 schreef Alan Dacey: > I was thinking about Synaptic but I wanted to see if there was a magic > trick to make it work first.  It's butt-ugly but it does work very well. I use synaptic now 2 years under Kubuntu without any problems. -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 14:39:57 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:39:57 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812131539.57377.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008 15:27:35 lanzen wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 13:24:38 Paul Kaplan wrote: > > openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org- kde_3.0.0-5_i386 will fix the break? Sorry, I had it right in front of me... > ftp://194.94.120.8/pub/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org- > kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb ... and failed to see it: yes if you have 3.0.0-5 and have not upgraded you should be fine. -- lanzen From rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk Sat Dec 13 14:45:57 2008 From: rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk (R C Mitchell) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:45:57 +0000 Subject: Can't install flugin-nonfree any more in 8.04 Message-ID: <200812131446.03393.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Earlier this week I despaired of Intrepid with KDE 4 after I installed 4,2 to see if it was any better than the lamentable 4.1. In some ways it was, but in others it was no better and when all my applets crashed that was the last straw. (Some may think that that having a functional moon phase indicator is a frivololity but living on an offshore island as I do I need those to tell me, amongst other things, the state of the tide.) So, I went back to basics and re-installed Hardy with KDE 3.5.10. That's a fine front end and I can't understand why it needs making glitzier. I successfully unravelled all my old .kde settings and I was a happy little bunny again. All except for one thing. On my 64-bit box I've always had Flash running successfully by running $ sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper flashplugin-nonfree But this time it failed, with the following output: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: firefox libflashsupport msttcorefonts ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs The following NEW packages will be installed flashplugin-nonfree nspluginwrapper 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/131kB of archives. After this operation, 549kB of additional disk space will be used. Preconfiguring packages ... Selecting previously deselected package nspluginwrapper. (Reading database ... 107988 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking nspluginwrapper (from .../nspluginwrapper_0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package flashplugin-nonfree. Unpacking flashplugin-nonfree (from .../flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ... Setting up nspluginwrapper (0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2) ... Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.124.0ubuntu2) ... Downloading... --14:13:39-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz => `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com... 88.221.170.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|88.221.170.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 14:13:40 ERROR 404: Not Found. download failed The Flash plugin is NOT installed. Any ideas? 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My guess is that it's some setting in KDE but I don't know what it might be. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. Eric From thisway2freedom at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 15:09:17 2008 From: thisway2freedom at gmail.com (Peter Shepherd) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:09:17 -0600 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 70 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22e319260812130709n1b2e1236q6d9aa53a91f094a4@mail.gmail.com> Let me explain what it is doing (I apologize, I forgot to look at the exact version of the machine, but it is a Dell Tower, 2.2 Gigahertz. It works fine all previous Ubuntu versions, including Hardy. If I install Hardy, I can upgrade to Intrepid and it works fine. But, if I try to run the live CD for Intrepid, sometimes it just stops on the first screen. and sometimes it will load but go no further than the flash screen, but will not load the desktop. That applies to Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Xubuntu. If I try to install from the live CD without loading the desktop, it will just sit there. If I install using the alternate install CD, I finish the install successfully, and then reboot, it lets me log in, goes to the flash screen and just sits there. Again, this applies only to Intrepid, for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu. It works find for Hardy and previous versions. Apparently there was a change that took away support from certain machines. Peter > 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > > Michael Zoet schrieb: > >> Michael schrieb: > >> > >>> Peter Shepherd wrote: > >>> > >>> ... > >>> Once you have Mepis running, copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to a USB > >>> stick or floppy if your computer has one. After loading K/Ubuntu, get > >>> to the shell by hitting ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. > >>> > >> Please press Alt+CNTRL+F1 instead! You might not get a shell if you > >> press ALT-CNTRL-BACKSPACE. > > What I forgot: > > > > The X-Server creates an extended logfile. At the end of this logfile > > normally X prints the reason why it is not starting. This info could be > > helpful for people on this list! > > > > Logfile location: /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not > a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). If it > crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in > ~/.xsession-error file. > > / Jonas > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:22:34 +0100 > From: Michael Zoet > Subject: Re: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <4942C80A.7090303 at michaelzoet.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Jonas Norlander schrieb: > > 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > > > >> ... > > > > If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not > > a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). > Ok for me it sounds like he gets no display with Kubuntu. But even if he > gets a display, X writes continously to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. And there > might be some error messages even if you get a display. If there are any > problems, it is 95% likely it gets logged to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > Looking there should be the first start with X problems! > > If it > > crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in > > ~/.xsession-error file. > > > Maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-error. But if he gets an X > Display and can log in and then I do not see the problems ;-). Or better > it is probably a weird X problem... > > Michael > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:40:08 +0100 > From: "Jonas Norlander" > Subject: Re: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu won't work on my Dell > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > > Jonas Norlander schrieb: > >> 2008/12/12 Michael Zoet : > >> > >>> ... > >> > >> If KDM is running then X has already started and there is probably not > >> a error in the xorg.conf (and it did if remember right?). > > Ok for me it sounds like he gets no display with Kubuntu. But even if he > > gets a display, X writes continously to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. And there > > might be some error messages even if you get a display. If there are any > > problems, it is 95% likely it gets logged to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > > Looking there should be the first start with X problems! > >> If it > >> crashes when hes logging in or after there can be clues why in > >> ~/.xsession-error file. > >> > > Maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-error. But if he gets an X > > Display and can log in and then I do not see the problems ;-). Or better > > it is probably a weird X problem... > > > > Michael > > > > As I understand it it crashes when he logging in or do I thinking on a > other thread? > Perhaps i should read the OP :-) > > / Jonas > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 13 15:10:29 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:10:29 -0600 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <4943D065.7030703@swbell.net> Steve Lamb wrote: > Knapp wrote: > >> If you just type aptitude on the CLI you will get an intresting gui >> with a lot of power and that leads naturally to the short cut of using >> it as a CLI program. >> > > While I am a fan of aptitude (long time Debian user, so natch) but I = > fail > to see how adept is that bad? Specifically Alan was looking for vlc. I = > just > opened Adept, typed in "vlc" in the search, clicked on "multimedia" and i= > t was > 4th option. Granted this was on 4.2 but the 4.1 version was not any diff= > erent > in this regard. Before I started using Kubuntu I used OpenSuSE. They started using "Smart" as a sort of default package manager. Compared to Yast it should have been named "Stupid". It didn't have nearly the functionality. Adept is just about the same position compared to itself up through KDE 3.5.10. They've gone for this cutesy interface instead of the more functional, intuitive, older style. The "New and Improved" Adept reminds me of "Smart". I'm not a huge fan of Synaptic but find it much better than the "New and Improved" Adept. My ol' gran'pappy used to say, "If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Adept didn't need fixin'. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From fred.schaer at free.fr Sat Dec 13 15:23:55 2008 From: fred.schaer at free.fr (Frederic Schaer) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:23:55 +0100 Subject: dolphin and bookmarks... ??? In-Reply-To: References: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <4943D38B.9020901@free.fr> Thanks... Just tried, but I'm not so convinced it is "user friendly"... plus : it's a KDE3 app :'( I'm trying to get used to KDE4 (using hardy for now), but if I'm going to use a KDE3 app, I could use KDE3's konqueror, which is working fine - it's just that it's loading KDE3 libs, so it's slower to start... Cheers Jonas Norlander a écrit : > 2008/12/10 Fred Schaer : > >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone know of a way to have a bookmarks usable menu in Dolphin ? >> Like Konqueror's one ? >> Something that's really usefull, not the useless "places" stuff ? >> I say useless, because it becomes so if you try to add many (say : 10 ? >> 20?) bookmarks inthere... >> >> I tried to use Konqueror, but for some reason many konqueror features >> seem to stop working (like copy paste capability... ???) when I open a >> new tab, or go to my blog ftp url, and so on (and updating files without >> copy paste in a file manager is somewhat tricky ;) )... >> >> Or is there anyway to have subdirectories (or "subplaces") in the >> "places" bookmarks ? >> >> Thanks >> > > I have as good as stopped using both Konqueror and Dolphin and do all > my file management in Krusader. As a file manager I think it's the > best. It has tabs, bookmarks, history, ftp, sftp, preview, CLI and a > lot of other handy stuff when manage files. The only thing I miss is a > "icon preview" mode. If you don't have do try it you want be > disappointed after you learned it. > > / Jonas > > From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 13 15:49:27 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:49:27 -0600 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812131252.12076.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4920268.CziCiciREp@cedar.serverforest.com> <49373821.7040603@sbcglobal.net> <200812131252.12076.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4943D987.5020400@swbell.net> > On 4 December 2008 02:53:37 Steven Vollom wrote > > >> I wish I could get kmail working. > I just had a thought. Steven, are you using your complete e-mail address as the login name for the account on both send and receive? [ stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net ] ATT.yahoo requires it that way. Before they started using Yahoo mail you just used your member name. [ stevenvollom ] Without the complete e-mail address/password it won't connect to the server. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Dec 13 16:21:06 2008 From: trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:21:06 +0000 Subject: Can't install flugin-nonfree any more in 8.04 References: <200812131446.03393.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: R C Mitchell wrote: > Earlier this week I despaired of Intrepid with KDE 4 after I installed 4,2 > to > see if it was any better than the lamentable 4.1. In some ways it was, > but in others it was no better and when all my applets crashed that was > the last > straw. (Some may think that that having a functional moon phase indicator > is a frivololity but living on an offshore island as I do I need those to > tell me, amongst other things, the state of the tide.) > > So, I went back to basics and re-installed Hardy with KDE 3.5.10. That's > a > fine front end and I can't understand why it needs making glitzier. I > successfully unravelled all my old .kde settings and I was a happy little > bunny again. All except for one thing. > > On my 64-bit box I've always had Flash running successfully by running > > Any ideas? Have a look here http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ > > Rosie HTH Jim From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sat Dec 13 16:22:50 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:22:50 +0000 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4943E15A.9070703@btinternet.com> > > > I've got kubuntu 8.10 on a 64bit amd, I installed openoffice.org using > > adept and I've had no trouble with it so far, reads all my MS word files. > > runs all incoming MS .pps files beautifully. > No crashes? You must be taking about 2.4. That's what I'm using, is that bad? what am I missing here? my motto is usually 'if it's working, don't fix it', but...... brian From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 16:37:26 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:37:26 -0700 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <4943BD22.2010208@gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> <4943BD22.2010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4943E4C6.9010507@gmail.com> Willy K. Hamra said the following at 12/13/2008 06:48 AM : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> >> Do you have any idea what that package is called? I cannot find >> anything that looks relevant. Thanks. >> > > if i'm not mistaken, it's kdeplasma-addons. i'm now using KDE 4.2 from Yes; fuzzy clock is in intrepid's kdeplasma-addons package. Doc From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 16:43:40 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:43:40 -0700 Subject: kontact 1.3 - some question on HOWTO In-Reply-To: <200812120943.28468.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200812120943.28468.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: <4943E63C.4040107@gmail.com> Alain Muls said the following at 12/12/2008 01:43 AM : > Hi > > I cleanly installed intrepid and found that kmail/korganizer/kaddressbook > (version kde4.2 beta 1) now rely on akonadi for storing different types of > information. The general framework is that it is a DB which stores different > type of infos. > > I do not know how I should: > 1. install the calendars I use. I have a local personal calendar and I use a > google calendar for information common with colleagues. The local calendar is > visible after an import using akonadi, but how do we best connect to the > google calendar? In hardy I did it using gcaldaemon to sync a local version, > but that solution is not ideal since at work I am behind a proxy and at home > not. I can't say that I understand your method, but what I do in intrepid (and have always done to make kontact work with google calendars) is simply to assign the resource type "remote file" and give it the URL of the google calendar. I'm not sure why you'd need to do anything more complicated than that. Doc From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 16:46:52 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:46:52 +0100 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: <4943E15A.9070703@btinternet.com> References: <4943E15A.9070703@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812131746.52318.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:22:50 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > That's what I'm using, is that bad? what am I missing here? my motto is > usually 'if it's working, don't fix it', but...... No, no, you're not missing anything: you got the right packages and you're staying safe out of problems. -- lanzen From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Sat Dec 13 17:46:08 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:46:08 -0300 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 16:55:19 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:55:19 -0500 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> References: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812131155.19465.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008 04:07:17 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > user error because you are the > second to say there is no 64 bit? User error based on the assumption that because it couldn't find java, it must be 32 bit. Rather, it is java that is 32 bit. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 16:57:23 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:57:23 -0500 Subject: openoffice.org In-Reply-To: <200812131019.33862.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <49437B45.8080208@btinternet.com> <200812131019.33862.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812131157.24126.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008 04:19:24 lanzen wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 10:07:17 Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > I've got kubuntu 8.10 on a 64bit amd, I installed openoffice.org using > > adept and I've had no trouble with it so far, reads all my MS word files. > > runs all incoming MS .pps files beautifully. > > No crashes? You must be taking about 2.4. Upgraded from ppa. Crashes occur. Thinking it is not 64 bit and to avoid crashes, I removed and installed from www.openoffice.org. Java not working, and learn that there is 64 bit in the ppa, I uninstall the /opt installation and reinstall from ppa. No crashes. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 13 17:19:55 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:19:55 +0100 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> References: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> Message-ID: <200812131819.55512.kassube@gmx.net> Lou wrote: > RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you elaborate? Your subject and the contents look suspiciously like spam, so it is quite likely that many people on this list don't see your mail because it is caught by their spam filters. Well actually I did some research what you might mean with your mail, but I can't really help except explain why possibly nobody replied. I found several messages from you to this list which were replies to a thread about keyboard issues. The problem is that this type of thread hijacking is that some people (including me) ignored your mail because they didn't read that particular thread. If the person who knows about a solution is among those who ignore the thread, you don't get a reply. Please don't reply to an existing mail but start a new mail to the list to avoid thread hijacking. Now, if nobody on this list knows how to solve your problem, you could try to get help on the usbunt-users list. There are more people on that list and you might have more luck because your problem seems not to be specific to Kubuntu. Nils From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 18:27:37 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:27:37 +0200 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <4943E4C6.9010507@gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> <4943BD22.2010208@gmail.com> <4943E4C6.9010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812131027v1957e187v6c18a684e876e85@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/13 D. R. Evans : > Yes; fuzzy clock is in intrepid's kdeplasma-addons package. > Interesting because the machine in question has that package installed. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Dec 13 19:26:26 2008 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:26:26 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Saturday 13 December 2008 09:27 lanzen wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 13:24:38 Paul Kaplan wrote: > > This thread has gotten very difficult to follow because of its length > > Certain thread here go to such length that the indenting goes out of the > screen... LOL! > > > Could someone please confirm: > > > > Updating to the current (13-Dec, 12:15GMT) ppa versions of OO 3.0 (from > > the prior 3.0 ppa version) on kubuntu 8.10, 32-bit still breaks OO? > > Yes. > > > The problem seems to be with the openoffice.org-kde package? > > Yes. > > > Replacing the current version of openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org- > > kde_3.0.0-5_i386 will fix the break? (at [possibly] until this package > > gets updated). > > The current version being openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1, the > previous version will cure it in kubuntu (If I recall correctly it will > have bugs in gnome). I'm not sure whether it's named 3.0.0-5, but it's the > one that got withdrawn due to gnome incompatibilities. > > > If this is not the case, could you please post complete instructions to > > fix. > > Make sure you have openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 > than follow the instructions at post #49 in > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516&page=5 > > Copy & paste follows: > > cd ~ > sudo -v > [ ! -f /usr/bin/alien ] && sudo apt-get install alien > wget > ftp://194.94.120.8/pub/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org- > kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb > alien -t openoffice.org-kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb > ( cd / ; sudo tar xvfz ~/openoffice.org-kde-3.0.0.tgz \ > ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/kdebe1.uno.so \ > ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_kdeli.so ) > > > -- > lanzen Now go figure...I updated from ppa at 19:25GMT on 13-Dec and with openoffice.org- kde v 3.0.0-6ubuntu it seems to run OK without any additional fixes. Bug squashed? Paul From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 21:23:11 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:23:11 +0100 Subject: dolphin and bookmarks... ??? In-Reply-To: <4943D38B.9020901@free.fr> References: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> <4943D38B.9020901@free.fr> Message-ID: 2008/12/13 Frederic Schaer : > Thanks... > Just tried, but I'm not so convinced it is "user friendly"... plus : > it's a KDE3 app :'( > I'm trying to get used to KDE4 (using hardy for now), but if I'm going > to use a KDE3 app, I could use KDE3's konqueror, which is working fine - > it's just that it's loading KDE3 libs, so it's slower to start... > Perhaps not the most user friendly if your not used to the "Norton Commander" style of file manager but it's very powerful and fast when you learned it. Your wrong that it's a KDE 3 application. The version in Intrepid is Krusader Version 2.0.0-beta2 "SVN TRUNK Space Odyssey" Använder KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) / Jonas From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sat Dec 13 21:28:51 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:28:51 -0500 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> <4943035B.4040709@ajinfosearch.com> <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <49442913.4020606@ajinfosearch.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Knapp wrote: >> If you just type aptitude on the CLI you will get an intresting gui >> with a lot of power and that leads naturally to the short cut of using >> it as a CLI program. > > While I am a fan of aptitude (long time Debian user, so natch) but I = > fail > to see how adept is that bad? Specifically Alan was looking for vlc. I = > just > opened Adept, typed in "vlc" in the search, clicked on "multimedia" and i= > t was > 4th option. Granted this was on 4.2 but the 4.1 version was not any diff= > erent > in this regard. I know about aptitude, but my friend did not like it, he has only known windows his whole life. He found aptitude too different to use. I did not see vlc after I clicked on the multimedia tab. I could have missed it. I think I will have to install 8.10 in vbox and play a little. Thanks for the answer to my first question -- file: replaces system: Alan -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From fred.schaer at free.fr Sat Dec 13 22:19:47 2008 From: fred.schaer at free.fr (Frederic Schaer) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:19:47 +0100 Subject: dolphin and bookmarks... ??? In-Reply-To: References: <493FA932.4080309@wanadoo.fr> <4943D38B.9020901@free.fr> Message-ID: <49443503.3090808@free.fr> Jonas Norlander a écrit : > 2008/12/13 Frederic Schaer : > >> Thanks... >> Just tried, but I'm not so convinced it is "user friendly"... plus : >> it's a KDE3 app :'( >> I'm trying to get used to KDE4 (using hardy for now), but if I'm going >> to use a KDE3 app, I could use KDE3's konqueror, which is working fine - >> it's just that it's loading KDE3 libs, so it's slower to start... >> >> > > Perhaps not the most user friendly if your not used to the "Norton > Commander" style of file manager but it's very powerful and fast when > you learned it. > Your wrong that it's a KDE 3 application. The version in Intrepid is > > Krusader > Version 2.0.0-beta2 "SVN TRUNK Space Odyssey" > Använder KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) > > / Jonas > Mmmhhh... OK, then in Intrepid it's a KDE4 app. But not in hardy, where I remained for now. (I'm tempted to skip this release for now, I don't see many new features I would get, plus it's a bit boring and time consumming to upgrade/reinstall every 6 months and redo/adapt all customization scripts... and fix new problems?) I'm not really used to norton commander (midnight commander ?) kind of apps, it's true... From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 22:34:02 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:34:02 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4944385A.2030001@gmail.com> On 13/12/2008 Paul Kaplan wrote: > Now go figure...I updated from ppa at 19:25GMT on 13-Dec and with > openoffice.org-kde v 3.0.0-6ubuntu it seems to run OK without any > additional fixes. > Bug squashed? Humm... unlikely, and weird. Still, good for you. :) I'm on my amd64 machine right now. OpenOffice still crashes, no updates seen so far (except kjots that doesn't want to install - but that's another matter). Could it be because I'm running kde 4.2? Well, I don't see how it could make any difference. -- lanzen From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 23:02:05 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:02:05 +1000 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4943605C.2090901@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <200812140902.09717.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:12:28 pm Steve Lamb wrote: > Knapp wrote: > > If you just type aptitude on the CLI you will get an intresting gui > > with a lot of power and that leads naturally to the short cut of using > > it as a CLI program. > > While I am a fan of aptitude (long time Debian user, so natch) but I = > fail > to see how adept is that bad? The search is broken - it returns *very* little. eg,a search for "plasma" only returns "Super Karamba", "plamoid" only returns "kepas" the Old adept-manager returns far more results, much more useful. Also all the useful filter are gone - installed/not installed etc. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nadreck at palain.com Sat Dec 13 23:14:40 2008 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:14:40 -0500 Subject: flickering screen In-Reply-To: <1601867532.1493271229106456620.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> References: <1601867532.1493271229106456620.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <494441E0.4030505@palain.com> Embarq Customer wrote: > Dear All, > I have a flickering screen when I play back videos on both VLC and Movie player. > I have switched off the desktop effects following a suggestion on this forum. (I can't remember who suggested it, but thanks for the tip.) > I downloaded Gnome last week to see if the problem would occur in a different environment. The screen flickers at about the same rate. > Does anyone have any further ideas? > I use a nvidea ATI 1300 radeon graphics card, I would be willing to pull it out if it will stop the flickering. > Thanks in advance I have had the same problem. When I first installed Kubuntu 8.10 on a brand new machine, I had flickering on everything, but installing the Nvidia driver cleared that up. But then I started to have problems of flickering only on video playback. My first solution was to reboot, then I found that I only needed to log out and log back in. Today I discovered that closing Amarok cleared it up. I have no idea why that works. I got there by happenstance, in that I was watching Miro, then opened Amarok, and after listening to music for about an hour, went back to Miro and observed the flickering was back. Since I knew that the *only* thing I had done in between wathcing with no flickering and having the flickering come back was listen to music on Amarok, I closed Amarok, and the flickering went away. I don't know if this will help you, but this is what I have found so far. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying." -- Woody Allen From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 13 23:30:41 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:30:41 -0500 Subject: flickering screen In-Reply-To: <494441E0.4030505@palain.com> References: <1601867532.1493271229106456620.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> <494441E0.4030505@palain.com> Message-ID: <494445A1.7000509@sbcglobal.net> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > Embarq Customer wrote: > >> Dear All, >> I have a flickering screen when I play back videos on both VLC and Movie player. >> I have switched off the desktop effects following a suggestion on this forum. (I can't remember who suggested it, but thanks for the tip.) >> I downloaded Gnome last week to see if the problem would occur in a different environment. The screen flickers at about the same rate. >> Does anyone have any further ideas? >> I use a nvidea ATI 1300 radeon graphics card, I would be willing to pull it out if it will stop the flickering. >> Thanks in advance >> > I have had the same problem. When I first installed Kubuntu 8.10 on a > brand new machine, I had flickering on everything, but installing the > Nvidia driver cleared that up. But then I started to have problems of > flickering only on video playback. > > My first solution was to reboot, then I found that I only needed to log > out and log back in. > > Today I discovered that closing Amarok cleared it up. I have no idea why > that works. I got there by happenstance, in that I was watching Miro, > then opened Amarok, and after listening to music for about an hour, went > back to Miro and observed the flickering was back. Since I knew that the > *only* thing I had done in between wathcing with no flickering and > having the flickering come back was listen to music on Amarok, I closed > Amarok, and the flickering went away. > > I don't know if this will help you, but this is what I have found so far. > > Regards, > > What can happen when a screen flickers the resolution is to high for the monitor to take, set it at 1024x768 and see what happens From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 23:37:06 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:37:06 +1000 Subject: kontact 1.3 - some question on HOWTO In-Reply-To: <4943E63C.4040107@gmail.com> References: <200812120943.28468.alain.muls@telenet.be> <4943E63C.4040107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812140937.10922.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:43:40 am D. R. Evans wrote: > Alain Muls said the following at 12/12/2008 01:43 AM : > > I can't say that I understand your method, but what I do in intrepid (and > have always done to make kontact work with google calendars) is simply to > assign the resource type "remote file" and give it the URL of the google > calendar. I'm not sure why you'd need to do anything more complicated than > that. I always get a 404 error when trying to save the calendar when doing that -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nadreck at palain.com Sun Dec 14 00:06:26 2008 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:06:26 -0500 Subject: flickering screen In-Reply-To: <494445A1.7000509@sbcglobal.net> References: <1601867532.1493271229106456620.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> <494441E0.4030505@palain.com> <494445A1.7000509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49444E02.6050402@palain.com> Jim wrote: > Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >> Embarq Customer wrote: >> >> >>> Dear All, >>> I have a flickering screen when I play back videos on both VLC and Movie player. >>> I have switched off the desktop effects following a suggestion on this forum. (I can't remember who suggested it, but thanks for the tip.) >>> I downloaded Gnome last week to see if the problem would occur in a different environment. The screen flickers at about the same rate. >>> Does anyone have any further ideas? >>> I use a nvidea ATI 1300 radeon graphics card, I would be willing to pull it out if it will stop the flickering. >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> >> I have had the same problem. When I first installed Kubuntu 8.10 on a >> brand new machine, I had flickering on everything, but installing the >> Nvidia driver cleared that up. But then I started to have problems of >> flickering only on video playback. >> >> My first solution was to reboot, then I found that I only needed to log >> out and log back in. >> >> Today I discovered that closing Amarok cleared it up. I have no idea why >> that works. I got there by happenstance, in that I was watching Miro, >> then opened Amarok, and after listening to music for about an hour, went >> back to Miro and observed the flickering was back. Since I knew that the >> *only* thing I had done in between wathcing with no flickering and >> having the flickering come back was listen to music on Amarok, I closed >> Amarok, and the flickering went away. >> >> I don't know if this will help you, but this is what I have found so far. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> > What can happen when a screen flickers the resolution is to high for the > monitor to take, set it at 1024x768 > and see what happens > Well, in my case I am pretty sure that is not the issue. I have four boxes sharing this monitor via a KVM switch. The others are running at 1280x1024 without any problem. So the monitor can handle it just fine. Since in my case the problem is with a new machine, it could be something about the video driver, or something about the software configuration. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that man doesn't have to experience it." -- Max Frisch From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 14 02:20:24 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:20:24 +0200 Subject: Easytag question Message-ID: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> I downloaded the New Testament in both Russian (for a friend) and Hebrew. I then used Easytag to edit the mp3 tags. This is the first time I have ever edited mp3 tags. Anyway, I noticed that the original files were all OK (tag wise) except for the book of Acts. No matter what I try chapter 22 always starts as the first file (on the mp3 player - a SanDisk Sansa - it shows as 01/28, whilst chapter 1 shows as 08/28). The only way that I did manage to get the correct playing order (for Acts) was to wipe all the mp3 tags. But as soon as I filled them in again the problem came back again. This is true for both the Russian and Hebrew files. There is an option in easytag to number consecutive tracks. It doesn't matter if I do or don't, Acts start playing from chapter 22 :-( The rest of the NT books are not affected. It is rather strange - any ideas? The mp3s can be downloaded for free from: http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebrew_MP3 They are separate files, so if someone would care to download and check the book of Acts I would be grateful. Blessings, Nigel -- From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 02:21:00 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:21:00 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812130854.36015.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812122046.55455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812130854.36015.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >Now I would expect you can see the account name Kmail uses for sending mail. >It has nothing to do with your account name at your provider. unless you >have manually changed this name, it was derived from your email address when >you created the account, i.e. Kmail uses the domain of your email address >with a capital first letter. And this is the name which I see in the error >message when I try to send mail while the network isn't available. Dear Nils, I see what you mean. It does show my account as Sbcglobal.net. on smtp settings. It says my account on pop is Studio25. Could these differences be the reason my sending is delayed? Since we are required to name things in the configuration of our programs, and I have never named my account Sbcglobal.net, therefore, it appeared, perhaps, the reason I was having difficulty sending emails. In fact, before my server instructed me to use my email address in naming the it works like this for account, I used the name Studio25 for that purpose. Everything worked fine both ways. This was the first time in my experience that the name had been supplied by a mail program. Before it was named either by me, or a requirement by the server. If this is correct then I accept it, and will continue to look for whatever is amiss. If I can't change it, though, I will have to change back to Thunderbird, because there is just too much time used and too much clicking to get an email to send this way. When I click on send using Thunderbird, it sends without any delay. If you and other kmail users have to do this every time you send an email, you are much more patient than me, and I though I was very patient. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 03:54:19 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:54:19 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. Message-ID: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I apologize to the List. When I changed to Kmail and stopped using Thunderbird, I had sending problems. Because they don't seem to go away, and I haven't been able to fix the reply problem, I decided to use Thunderbird again. I just sent my first email using Thunderbird and had to resend it. So it is apparent that the problem is probably server related and not Kmail. Although the email did not go to the Outbox, I did get a notification that there was a problem connecting with the server, so that is sufficiently similar to the problem in Kmail. For AT&T to be willing to service a Linux program, there is a required fee of $100. I can't afford that, so I will have to live with the problem. Their service is the only DSL service that is affordable to me. It's always something. There is someone else with kmail sending problems, so I will not post this as resolved, but it is resolved as far as I am concerned. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 04:13:04 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:13:04 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <4943D987.5020400@swbell.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812131252.12076.valtermura@gmail.com> <4943D987.5020400@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > ] Without the complete e-mail address/password it won't connect to the > server. Yes. Thanks Billie. I am able to send and receive now. A new problem started that seemed like it was Kmail related, but I don't think so now. The new problem was that every time I would send an email using Kmail, it would immediately be placed into the Outbox, with a warning that there was a problem connecting to the server. Additionally, in the warning it used Sbcglobal.net as the Account name. When I checked with my pop configuration, it showed Studio25 as my account name and for smtp the account name was Sbcglobal.net. Nils explained that Kmail takes the smtp Account name from your email address, so that explained that. The strange thing for me was that when sbcglobal was replaced by AT&T, my email stayed and is still, stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net, however new att clients have (name)@att.yahoo.com. So, I thought perhaps that peculiarity was perhaps part of the problem. Apparently it isn't. I now believe the problem is with the server, and I cannot afford their service fee. $100 for Linux users. Still, they are the cheapest monthly for DSL, so I must keep them. $15 per month DSL. Thanks for your continued interest and help, but consider the problem Resolved, at least as far as I am concerned. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, my friend. Steven > > -- > Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From nadreck at palain.com Sun Dec 14 04:20:09 2008 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:20:09 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49448979.9090805@palain.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > I apologize to the List. When I changed to Kmail and stopped using > Thunderbird, I had sending problems. Because they don't seem to go away, and > I haven't been able to fix the reply problem, I decided to use Thunderbird > again. > > I just sent my first email using Thunderbird and had to resend it. So it is > apparent that the problem is probably server related and not Kmail. Although > the email did not go to the Outbox, I did get a notification that there was a > problem connecting with the server, so that is sufficiently similar to the > problem in Kmail. > > For AT&T to be willing to service a Linux program, there is a required fee of > $100. I can't afford that, so I will have to live with the problem. Their > service is the only DSL service that is affordable to me. It's always > something. > > There is someone else with kmail sending problems, so I will not post this as > resolved, but it is resolved as far as I am concerned. As far as I know, there is no reason for a server to care about the OS used to send mail. I use Thunderbird on both Linux and Windows machines, and it works fine on both. Since the issue you had was with sending, I would go through a checklist on configuration. Verify the SMTP server, make sure you have all of the usual account information correct. And see if they are using some kind of authentication on sending mail. That is something they might be doing as an anti-spam measure. Also, are they using the normal port? My Comcast account, for instance, forced me to change the port for SMTP from the normal 25 to 587. They claimed they had detected spam coming out of my computer, but I doubt they could find their ass with both hands, so I tend to disbelieve them. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives." -- John Stuart Mill From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 14 04:38:59 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:38:59 -0600 Subject: Apt broken Message-ID: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> Earlier today, I tried to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid using the dist-upgrade. It didn't work; the system reported that I no longer had a video device installed. I didn't think it was a big deal as I had everything backed up and could simply reinstall Hardy, restore my configuration files and be back where I started ... I thought. After reinstalling Hardy, I restored my Hardy /etc to get my old configurations back. It looked good ... but Apt appears broken. When I try doing an upgrade or an install (not a dist-upgrade!!), I'm getting errors as follows: Preconfiguring packages ... Setting up base-files (4.0.1ubuntu5.8.04.3) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found dpkg: error processing base-files (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 Errors were encountered while processing: base-files E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) This was on an "apt-get install mysql-server". I think it somehow thinks it needs to upgrade a package that isn't installed due to my restoring en mass the configurations. Can anyone offer some help on how to get my package manager going again? Thanks in advance ---Michael From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 14 06:03:14 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:03:14 +0100 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812130854.36015.kassube@gmx.net> <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812140703.14331.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > I see what you mean. It does show my account as Sbcglobal.net. on smtp > settings. > > It says my account on pop is Studio25. Could these differences be the > reason my sending is delayed? No, that are just names for the user to distinguish various accounts. I use different names for pop and smtp as well and I never see a problem unless the internet connection or the server is not available. If you think it might be a problem you can rename the account if you want to. However it will not improve the situation. Like I wrote before, it is probably a too short timeout somewhere but I don't know where. > If you and other kmail users have to do this every time you send an > email, you are much more patient than me, and I though I was very > patient. Actually I don't see the error very often, maybe twice a month. Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 07:11:48 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:11:48 +0200 Subject: Apt broken In-Reply-To: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812140911.48983.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Sunday, 14 December 2008 06:38:59 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found Hi - I don't know the answer, but it looks like it can't find awk. Perhaps you have to create the symlink again. My system (Gutsy) says: root at ddm:/etc# which awk /usr/bin/awk root at ddm:/etc# ls -l /usr/bin/awk lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2007-11-11 06:53 /usr/bin/awk -> /etc/alternatives/awk In /etc/alternatives/ it points awk to /usr/bin/gawk So, go check if gawk is listed as 'awk' and you should be past one bug. \d From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 07:44:49 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:44:49 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812140703.14331.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812140703.14331.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812140244.49105.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Thanks Nils, it helps to know my system is more normal than I think. There is one other thing I wondered about the time-out, that is if I am downloading and using a lot of the band width, could that interfere with the send instruction? Steven From girardhenri at free.fr Sun Dec 14 08:35:27 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:35:27 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1229243727.7969.3.camel@tao> i use the version 3.1 development works like a charm :) Le samedi 13 décembre 2008 à 14:26 -0500, Paul Kaplan a écrit : > On Saturday 13 December 2008 09:27 lanzen wrote: > > On Saturday 13 December 2008 13:24:38 Paul Kaplan wrote: > > > This thread has gotten very difficult to follow because of its length > > > > Certain thread here go to such length that the indenting goes out of the > > screen... LOL! > > > > > Could someone please confirm: > > > > > > Updating to the current (13-Dec, 12:15GMT) ppa versions of OO 3.0 (from > > > the prior 3.0 ppa version) on kubuntu 8.10, 32-bit still breaks OO? > > > > Yes. > > > > > The problem seems to be with the openoffice.org-kde package? > > > > Yes. > > > > > Replacing the current version of openoffice.org-kde with openoffice.org- > > > kde_3.0.0-5_i386 will fix the break? (at [possibly] until this package > > > gets updated). > > > > The current version being openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1, the > > previous version will cure it in kubuntu (If I recall correctly it will > > have bugs in gnome). I'm not sure whether it's named 3.0.0-5, but it's the > > one that got withdrawn due to gnome incompatibilities. > > > > > If this is not the case, could you please post complete instructions to > > > fix. > > > > Make sure you have openoffice.org - 1:3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 > > than follow the instructions at post #49 in > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993516&page=5 > > > > Copy & paste follows: > > > > cd ~ > > sudo -v > > [ ! -f /usr/bin/alien ] && sudo apt-get install alien > > wget > > ftp://194.94.120.8/pub/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org- > > kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb > > alien -t openoffice.org-kde_3.0.0-5_i386.deb > > ( cd / ; sudo tar xvfz ~/openoffice.org-kde-3.0.0.tgz \ > > ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/kdebe1.uno.so \ > > ./usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/libvclplug_kdeli.so ) > > > > > > -- > > lanzen > Now go figure...I updated from ppa at 19:25GMT on 13-Dec and with openoffice.org- > kde v 3.0.0-6ubuntu it seems to run OK without any additional fixes. > > Bug squashed? > Paul > From alain.muls at telenet.be Sun Dec 14 09:54:30 2008 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:54:30 +0100 Subject: Kontact and akonadi resources Message-ID: <200812141054.30805.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi I am trying to use the organizer from within kontact (on KDE4.2 beta 1) and want to import 2 calendars: 1. my personal calendar located on the local HD 2. a common google calendar shared with my colleagues I think I should be able to do it using the new akonadi, but researching does not reveal much information. Also trying out does not yield the desired result. eg. I entered my personal calendar through akonadi and it showed up. Then I tried to add the google calendar, first as a local resource, but this does not allow to sync with the google calendar. By doing this I also lost the personal calendar which I had to reenter in akonadi. What is the "new KDE 4.2" way of doing this? Tx/Alain From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 10:10:05 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:10:05 +1000 Subject: Kontact and akonadi resources In-Reply-To: <200812141054.30805.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200812141054.30805.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200812142010.09394.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:54:30 pm Alain Muls wrote: > I think I should be able to do it using the new akonadi, but researching > does not reveal much information As far as I can tell, currently akonadi doesn't let you doing *anything* beyond the existing kontact framework. The only akonadi resource is a wrapper for the old kontact resources. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 14 11:38:56 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:38:56 -0600 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4944F050.1090509@swbell.net> On 12/13/2008 Steven Vollom wrote: > For AT&T to be willing to service a Linux program, there is a > required fee of > $100. I can't afford that, so I will have to live with the problem. > Their > service is the only DSL service that is affordable to me. It's > always > something. There's no need to even contact ATT with this. Everything needed is on the ATT/Yahoo setup pages. Every setting needed is exactly the same for Outlook, Thunderbird, and anything else you can imagine. There isn't anything they can do for you that isn't already on those pages. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 14 12:02:46 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:02:46 -0600 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812131252.12076.valtermura@gmail.com> <4943D987.5020400@swbell.net> <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> On 12/13/2008 Steven Vollom wrote: > I now believe the problem is with the server, and I cannot afford > their > service fee. $100 for Linux users. Still, they are the cheapest > monthly for > DSL, so I must keep them. $15 per month DSL. I seriously doubt there is a problem with the server. I've been using the same service as you for about sixteen years now with both Windows and Linux. Every once in a while there will be a "hickup" with the net but no serious problems. I still feel like there is some configuration problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. I've been a T-Bird user ever since they released the first version and prefer it to all others. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From dave at thefletchers.net Sun Dec 14 12:34:38 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:34:38 +0000 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <49448979.9090805@palain.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <49448979.9090805@palain.com> Message-ID: <200812141234.39123.dave@thefletchers.net> On Sunday 14 December 2008 04:20:09 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > As far as I know, there is no reason for a server to care about the OS > used to send mail. I use Thunderbird on both Linux and Windows machines, > and it works fine on both. Same here - the idea is that everybody speaks the same protocols for each purpose and understands each other. > > Since the issue you had was with sending, I would go through a checklist > on configuration. Verify the SMTP server, make sure you have all of the > usual account information correct. And see if they are using some kind In my experience, if you select one of your sending accounts, click modify, then the security tab and click the "Check what the Server Supports" button, and it configures the security settings without issuing any error message, then the sending account is good to go. If this step fails, then something is wrong. > of authentication on sending mail. That is something they might be doing > as an anti-spam measure. Also, are they using the normal port? My > Comcast account, for instance, forced me to change the port for SMTP > from the normal 25 to 587. They claimed they had detected spam coming This is a good work around if you need/want to use an SMTP box other than the one your ISP provides. I do it because I consider the SMTP service provided by the specialist web services provider I use to be more reliable than that provided by my ISP, plus I can use it from anywhere I can get a connection for my laptop. Something I don't think anybody has mentioned, or I've missed it:- After you set up an identity with your reply-to address etc., you can set that identity to use a specific sending account, that you already verified using the Check what the Server Supports procedure. Select the identity, click Modify, select the Advanced tab. At the bottom is a tick box marked "Special Transport". If this is selected you can specify which sending account is used for the identity. That way, you know exactly what it will do when the Send button is clicked. Dave From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 12:57:31 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:57:31 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812140757.32091.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >I still feel like there is some configuration > problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. I have exhausted that approach. Almost everyone agrees with you too. Nonetheless, for those who wanted to see my configuration, I sent screenprints to their private mailing addresses, because of the size of the prints. Everyone agrees that the configuration is correct. When I preported the possibility of there being a bug, one member took great offense. So I don't know where to go from here. I have wondered, if maybe I have a hardware problem, like memory or power supply, or something that if defective could hamper the transmission, because it does the same for each sent email? But this is way over my head and only a theory which came to mind. I hate to see it take so much of the List's time, because everyones suggestions and solutions are so similar. All have been tested personally by me and reviewed by several others. I think I would like the drop the issue, until perhaps I see someone else post a similar problem. Thanks to all, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 13:02:53 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:02:53 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <4944F050.1090509@swbell.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4944F050.1090509@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812140802.53442.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >Every setting needed is exactly the same for > Outlook, Thunderbird, and anything else you can imagine. There isn't > anything they can do for you that isn't already on those pages. Everything in my configuration is exactly as presented, so it can't be a configuration problem. All solutions are the same and do not change anything. It is time to let it go. Steven From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Sun Dec 14 14:21:35 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:21:35 -0300 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <200812131819.55512.kassube@gmx.net> References: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> <200812131819.55512.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <26A682E277604627B064A2612E857101@NoEsHisterica> Hi Nils, thanks for reply I have a problem with this issue, and nobody arround the world help I like to use kubuntu, but if no work the wireless I can't connect. the problem is that I can see all wireless networks but I can't connect. can you help me ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nils Kassube" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Lou wrote: >> RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Can you elaborate? Your subject and the contents look suspiciously like > spam, so it is quite likely that many people on this list don't see your > mail because it is caught by their spam filters. > > Well actually I did some research what you might mean with your mail, but > I can't really help except explain why possibly nobody replied. > > I found several messages from you to this list which were replies to a > thread about keyboard issues. The problem is that this type of thread > hijacking is that some people (including me) ignored your mail because > they didn't read that particular thread. If the person who knows about a > solution is among those who ignore the thread, you don't get a reply. > Please don't reply to an existing mail but start a new mail to the list > to avoid thread hijacking. > > Now, if nobody on this list knows how to solve your problem, you could try > to get help on the usbunt-users list. There are more people on that list > and you might have more luck because your problem seems not to be > specific to Kubuntu. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3688 (20081212) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 14 13:39:15 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:39:15 +0100 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <26A682E277604627B064A2612E857101@NoEsHisterica> References: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> <200812131819.55512.kassube@gmx.net> <26A682E277604627B064A2612E857101@NoEsHisterica> Message-ID: <200812141439.15770.kassube@gmx.net> Lou wrote: > Hi Nils, thanks for reply > I have a problem with this issue, and nobody arround the world help > I like to use kubuntu, but if no work the wireless I can't connect. > the problem is that I can see all wireless networks but I can't > connect. > > can you help me ? Not really. It could be a problem with the driver for your card, but I don't have a card with your chip set. Maybe you should really ask on the Ubuntu-users list because there are more people who might know the RTL8187B. You can subscribe here: Nils From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Dec 14 13:45:48 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:45:48 -0500 Subject: Can't install flugin-nonfree any more in 8.04 In-Reply-To: <200812131446.03393.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <200812131446.03393.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812140845.48310.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 13 December 2008 9:45:57 am R C Mitchell wrote: > Earlier this week I despaired of Intrepid with KDE 4 after I installed 4,2 > to see if it was any better than the lamentable 4.1. In some ways it was, > but in others it was no better and when all my applets crashed that was the > last straw. (Some may think that that having a functional moon phase > indicator is a frivololity but living on an offshore island as I do I need > those to tell me, amongst other things, the state of the tide.) > > So, I went back to basics and re-installed Hardy with KDE 3.5.10. That's a > fine front end and I can't understand why it needs making glitzier. I > successfully unravelled all my old .kde settings and I was a happy little > bunny again. All except for one thing. > > On my 64-bit box I've always had Flash running successfully by running > > $ sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper flashplugin-nonfree > > But this time it failed, with the following output: > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Suggested packages: > firefox libflashsupport msttcorefonts ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs > The following NEW packages will be installed > flashplugin-nonfree nspluginwrapper > 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/131kB of archives. > After this operation, 549kB of additional disk space will be used. > Preconfiguring packages ... > Selecting previously deselected package nspluginwrapper. > (Reading database ... 107988 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking nspluginwrapper > (from .../nspluginwrapper_0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package flashplugin-nonfree. > Unpacking flashplugin-nonfree > (from .../flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ... > Setting up nspluginwrapper (0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2) ... > Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.124.0ubuntu2) ... > Downloading... > --14:13:39-- > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_play >er_9_linux.tar.gz => `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' > Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com... 88.221.170.70 > Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|88.221.170.70|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > 14:13:40 ERROR 404: Not Found. > > download failed > The Flash plugin is NOT installed. Didn't I somewhat point this out last week? ;-) Make sure you have the restricted repo's enabled. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 13:45:37 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:45:37 +0200 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812141234.39123.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <49448979.9090805@palain.com> <200812141234.39123.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <49450E01.6080505@gmail.com> David Fletcher wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 04:20:09 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: >> As far as I know, there is no reason for a server to care about the OS >> used to send mail. I use Thunderbird on both Linux and Windows machines, >> and it works fine on both. > Same here - the idea is that everybody speaks the same protocols for each > purpose and understands each other. >> Since the issue you had was with sending, I would go through a checklist >> on configuration. Verify the SMTP server, make sure you have all of the >> usual account information correct. And see if they are using some kind > In my experience, if you select one of your sending accounts, click modify, > then the security tab and click the "Check what the Server Supports" button, > and it configures the security settings without issuing any error message, > then the sending account is good to go. If this step fails, then something is > wrong. > Sorry but I beg to differ - there have been occasions when KMail reports that the server support some protocol/verfication and when I try and use it all goes belly up. I can not give you an example, it has been a while since I did some setup of this, but I know it has happened. Then I have changed from eg APOP to LOGIN and all works after that. From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Sun Dec 14 14:55:21 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:55:21 -0300 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <200812141439.15770.kassube@gmx.net> References: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica><200812131819.55512.kassube@gmx.net><26A682E277604627B064A2612E857101@NoEsHisterica> <200812141439.15770.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <32622A802FE84504B58F58DBC5AA871C@NoEsHisterica> ok, thanks I will try in ubuntu list Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nils Kassube" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Lou wrote: >> Hi Nils, thanks for reply >> I have a problem with this issue, and nobody arround the world help >> I like to use kubuntu, but if no work the wireless I can't connect. >> the problem is that I can see all wireless networks but I can't >> connect. >> >> can you help me ? > > Not really. It could be a problem with the driver for your card, but I > don't have a card with your chip set. Maybe you should really ask on the > Ubuntu-users list because there are more people who might know the > RTL8187B. You can subscribe here: > > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3689 (20081214) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 14 14:24:40 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:24:40 -0500 Subject: Easytag question In-Reply-To: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812140924.40519.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: > The mp3s can be downloaded for free from: > http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebr >ew_MP3 I get a 'page not found' from this link. I listen to a lot of audiobooks and all I ever worry about is that the filenames are in sort order. Never bother with the tags. Works ok. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 14:28:04 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:28:04 +0100 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <49450E01.6080505@gmail.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812141234.39123.dave@thefletchers.net> <49450E01.6080505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812141528.04927.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:45:37 O. Sinclair wrote: > Sorry but I beg to differ - there have been occasions when KMail reports > that the server support some protocol/verfication and when I try and use > it all goes belly up. I can not give you an example, it has been a while > since I did some setup of this, but I know it has happened. Then I have > changed from eg APOP to LOGIN and all works after that. True. Sometimes two or three would appear as available but not always my first choice among them was succesful. -- lanzen From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 14 14:33:06 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:33:06 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812130854.36015.kassube@gmx.net> <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 13 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > If you and other kmail users have to do this every time you send an email, > you are much more patient than me, and I though I was very patient. The only time I have ever seen an email stick in the outbox is when: a) There was a problem sending the file... it was not accepted. b) There was something wrong with the addressing, in which case it would not get sent. In either case there was a clear message as to why things didn't go. As I said before, you must have a flakely connection. If you can get it to send just by trying it again, then there is nothing wrong with Kmail. Does it always take a click? I thought you said sometimes it would send right away. Have you looked at the 'sending options' on the bottom of the page of the send account page? Lots of ways to screw things up there. From gloonie at earthlink.net Sun Dec 14 15:19:18 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:19:18 -0500 Subject: Apt broken In-Reply-To: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812141019.19136.gloonie@earthlink.net> Michael, Can you run this command from the command line and post the results: sed -n '150,160p' /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst That way we could see the line in error. Thanks, Glenn On Saturday 13 December 2008 23:38:59 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Earlier today, I tried to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid using the > dist-upgrade. It didn't work; the system reported that I no longer had a > video device installed. I didn't think it was a big deal as I had > everything backed up and could simply reinstall Hardy, restore my > configuration files and be back where I started ... I thought. > > After reinstalling Hardy, I restored my Hardy /etc to get my old > configurations back. It looked good ... but > > Apt appears broken. When I try doing an upgrade or an install (not a > dist-upgrade!!), I'm getting errors as follows: > > Preconfiguring packages ... > Setting up base-files (4.0.1ubuntu5.8.04.3) ... > /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found > /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found > dpkg: error processing base-files (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 > Errors were encountered while processing: > base-files > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > This was on an "apt-get install mysql-server". I think it somehow thinks it > needs to upgrade a package that isn't installed due to my restoring en mass > the configurations. Can anyone offer some help on how to get my package > manager going again? > > Thanks in advance > ---Michael From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 14 15:23:10 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:23:10 -0600 Subject: Awk Missing Message-ID: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> Earlier, I reported a problem with Apt. Don pointed me to a missing symlink for apt. On closer examination, I found that Awk is missing from my system. I have no idea how I could have done a new Hardy install and not have awk, but clearly it happened. Could someone point me at a place that I could get awk (sources for a ./configure, make, make install would be fine)? I'll keep googling, but If you no of a place, you could save me some time.. Thanks From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 14 15:51:53 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:53 +0200 Subject: Easytag question In-Reply-To: <200812140924.40519.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <200812140924.40519.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <49452B99.4090807@prayingforisrael.net> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> The mp3s can be downloaded for free from: >> http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebr >> ew_MP3 > > I get a 'page not found' from this link. > > I listen to a lot of audiobooks and all I ever worry about is that the > filenames are in sort order. Never bother with the tags. Works ok. > Sorry, the URL was cut off :-( here it is its fullness: http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebrew_MP3_Bible.htm or the link to the actual download: http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Acts_Hebrew.zip (33MB). All though it is an audio book, the problem is that it is actually 27 books inside a single book: Main Book: Hebrew NT Sub Books: 4 Gospels and 23 letters (all classed as 'books' [of the Bible]). I managed to 'trick' my mp3 player into sub-categorizing the 'books' [of the Bible] by tagging the 'main book' (Hebrew NT) as the 'Artist' and the sub-books as 'Albums'. Then all i have to do on my mp3 player is to get it to list 'Artists' and then choose 'Hebrew NT'. But I digress - even with me editing the original tags, the book of Acts still starts with chapter 22 - which is quite annoying! And no matter how I try to edit the tags, it still starts with chapter 22 :-( Any ideas? Blessings, Nigel -- From michael at weblore.com Sun Dec 14 15:55:43 2008 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:55:43 -0600 Subject: Apt broken In-Reply-To: <200812141019.19136.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com> <200812141019.19136.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812140955.44173.michael@weblore.com> On Sunday 14 December 2008 09:19:18 am Glenn R Williams wrote: > Michael, > > Can you run this command from the command line and post the results: > > sed -n '150,160p' /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst > > That way we could see the line in error. Hi Glenn, I think Don pointed out the problem. Somehow, when I did the reinstall of Hardy, awk didn't get installed. I have no idea how that could have happened. As this is a new install - and I haven't been able to do any work on it - I'm going to rerun the install. If I still have a problem afterward, I'll post back. Thanks for the help. ---Michael From gloonie at earthlink.net Sun Dec 14 15:56:19 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:56:19 -0500 Subject: Awk Missing In-Reply-To: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812141056.20227.gloonie@earthlink.net> Michael, gawk is probably what you want. you could get the source from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gawk/ There are many versions there. Once you install and run, you could update Ubuntu with synaptic and get the Ubuntu version of gawk. HTH, Glenn On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:23:10 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Earlier, I reported a problem with Apt. Don pointed me to a missing symlink > for apt. On closer examination, I found that Awk is missing from my system. > I have no idea how I could have done a new Hardy install and not have awk, > but clearly it happened. > > Could someone point me at a place that I could get awk (sources for > a ./configure, make, make install would be fine)? I'll keep googling, but > If you no of a place, you could save me some time.. > > Thanks From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 16:24:09 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:24:09 +0200 Subject: Awk Missing In-Reply-To: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> References: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200812141824.10317.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > for apt. On closer examination, I found that Awk is missing from my system. You should be able to get the deb off the install cd for gawk/awk. Try use dpkg to install it before you head off for the source. You may be in a catch-22 needing gcc to compile the source and needing apt to install gcc... OTOH, gawk may already be in /usr/bin and all you need to do is create a symlink from 'awk' to 'gawk' hth, \d From dave at thefletchers.net Sun Dec 14 16:29:38 2008 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:29:38 +0000 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <49450E01.6080505@gmail.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812141234.39123.dave@thefletchers.net> <49450E01.6080505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812141629.47660.dave@thefletchers.net> On Sunday 14 Dec 2008, O. Sinclair wrote: > David Fletcher wrote: > > In my experience, if you select one of your sending accounts, click modify, > > then the security tab and click the "Check what the Server Supports" button, > > and it configures the security settings without issuing any error message, > > then the sending account is good to go. If this step fails, then something is > > wrong. > > > Sorry but I beg to differ - there have been occasions when KMail reports > that the server support some protocol/verfication and when I try and use > it all goes belly up. I can not give you an example, it has been a while > since I did some setup of this, but I know it has happened. Then I have > changed from eg APOP to LOGIN and all works after that. > I did say "In my experience". Mostly that is with One and One, but they do run a lot of Linux so they probably know what they're doing :-) Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gloonie at earthlink.net Sun Dec 14 17:12:34 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:12:34 -0500 Subject: Awk Missing In-Reply-To: <200812141824.10317.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200812140923.10740.michael@weblore.com> <200812141824.10317.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812141212.34907.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:24:09 Donn wrote: > > for apt. On closer examination, I found that Awk is missing from my > > system. > > You should be able to get the deb off the install cd for gawk/awk. Try use > dpkg to install it before you head off for the source. You may be in a > catch-22 needing gcc to compile the source and needing apt to install > gcc... > > OTOH, gawk may already be in /usr/bin and all you need to do is create a > symlink from 'awk' to 'gawk' > > hth, > \d Donn, Good idea. Incrementally approaching the problem will probably save some grief further along! I hadn't thought that maybe it was a symlink between gawk and awk. It makes sense, though, since Ubuntu uses gawk. Glenn From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 14 19:41:49 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:41:49 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812141441.49633.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Does it always take a click? I thought you said sometimes it would send > right away. It happens every time. > Have you looked at the 'sending options' on the bottom of the page of the > send account page? Lots of ways to screw things up there. Yes, they verify as correct. Is it possible that bad memory or a power supply could trigger a failure? It may be a stupid question, however all the posts relate to potential problems that have been checked a dozen times. Thanks! Steven From gloonie at earthlink.net Sun Dec 14 19:54:01 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:54:01 -0500 Subject: Limit to 4 Languages on KDE Kyeboard Layout Switcher? Message-ID: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> Hi All, Is there an absolute limit on 4 Languages one can specify for the KDE Keyboard Layout Switcher? I seems not to take any more than four selections during setup (system-seetings -> Regional & Language --> Keyboard Layout). I use many different keyboards, and would like to add another to the switching list. TIA, Glenn From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 20:02:41 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:02:41 +0100 Subject: Limit to 4 Languages on KDE Kyeboard Layout Switcher? In-Reply-To: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Glenn R Williams wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there an absolute limit on 4 Languages one can specify for the KDE > Keyboard Layout Switcher? I seems not to take any more than four selections > during setup (system-seetings -> Regional & Language --> Keyboard Layout). > > I use many different keyboards, and would like to add another to the switching > list. > > TIA, > > Glenn Can't answer your question but maybe you could add a second user with the other keyboards and sign on to both? -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 14 20:07:35 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:07:35 +0200 Subject: Easytag question Solved In-Reply-To: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I downloaded the New Testament in both Russian (for a friend) and Hebrew. I then used Easytag to > edit the mp3 tags. This is the first time I have ever edited mp3 tags. > > Anyway, I noticed that the original files were all OK (tag wise) except for the book of Acts. No > matter what I try chapter 22 always starts as the first file (on the mp3 player - a SanDisk Sansa > - it shows as 01/28, whilst chapter 1 shows as 08/28). > The only way that I did manage to get the correct playing order (for Acts) was to wipe all the > mp3 tags. But as soon as I filled them in again the problem came back again. This is true for > both the Russian and Hebrew files. > > There is an option in easytag to number consecutive tracks. It doesn't matter if I do or don't, > Acts start playing from chapter 22 :-( > The rest of the NT books are not affected. > > It is rather strange - any ideas? > > The mp3s can be downloaded for free from: > http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebrew_MP3 > > They are separate files, so if someone would care to download and check the book of Acts I would > be grateful. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since both the Hebrew and Russian versions of the book of Acts was affected there had to be a common denominator -- the filenames! Both had all the chapters of Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to ActsofApostles_01 etc. and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts as it should with - you guessed it - chapter 1 :-) As for the reason, I really don't know. Any body care to offer an explanation? Blessings, Nigel -- From gloonie at earthlink.net Sun Dec 14 20:44:45 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:44:45 -0500 Subject: Limit to 4 Languages on KDE Keyboard Layout Switcher? In-Reply-To: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812141544.45843.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:54:01 Glenn R Williams wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there an absolute limit on 4 Languages one can specify for the KDE > Keyboard Layout Switcher? I seems not to take any more than four selections > during setup (system-seetings -> Regional & Language --> Keyboard Layout). > > I use many different keyboards, and would like to add another to the > switching list. > > TIA, > > Glenn Some more info on this problem: I manually edited the config file .kde/share/config/kxkbrc and added a fifth language. Now it shows up when I bring up system-settings, but not when I try to change it on the task bar. Seems it only wants to hold 4! Glenn Glenn From kjb.jones at embarqmail.com Sun Dec 14 12:59:54 2008 From: kjb.jones at embarqmail.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:59:54 -0600 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 47, Issue 77 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812140659.55155.kjb.jones@embarqmail.com> > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:06:26 -0500 > From: "Kevin B. O'Brien" > Subject: Re: flickering screen > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <49444E02.6050402 at palain.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jim wrote: > > Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >> Embarq Customer wrote: > >>> Dear All, > >>> I have a flickering screen when I play back videos on both VLC and > >>> Movie player. I have switched off the desktop effects following a > >>> suggestion on this forum. (I can't remember who suggested it, but > >>> thanks for the tip.) I downloaded Gnome last week to see if the problem > >>> would occur in a different environment. The screen flickers at about > >>> the same rate. Does anyone have any further ideas? > >>> I use a nvidea ATI 1300 radeon graphics card, I would be willing to > >>> pull it out if it will stop the flickering. Thanks in advance > >> > >> I have had the same problem. When I first installed Kubuntu 8.10 on a > >> brand new machine, I had flickering on everything, but installing the > >> Nvidia driver cleared that up. But then I started to have problems of > >> flickering only on video playback. > >> > >> My first solution was to reboot, then I found that I only needed to log > >> out and log back in. > >> > >> Today I discovered that closing Amarok cleared it up. I have no idea why > >> that works. I got there by happenstance, in that I was watching Miro, > >> then opened Amarok, and after listening to music for about an hour, went > >> back to Miro and observed the flickering was back. Since I knew that the > >> *only* thing I had done in between wathcing with no flickering and > >> having the flickering come back was listen to music on Amarok, I closed > >> Amarok, and the flickering went away. > >> > >> I don't know if this will help you, but this is what I have found so > >> far. > >> > >> Regards, > > > > What can happen when a screen flickers the resolution is to high for the > > monitor to take, set it at 1024x768 > > and see what happens > > Well, in my case I am pretty sure that is not the issue. I have four > boxes sharing this monitor via a KVM switch. The others are running at > 1280x1024 without any problem. So the monitor can handle it just fine. > > Since in my case the problem is with a new machine, it could be > something about the video driver, or something about the software > configuration. > > Regards, > > -- > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 > > "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that man doesn't have > to experience it." -- Max Frisch > > > Thanks everyone!!! turning amarok on and off and logging in and out did nothing. I think I may have to disconnect the video driver Perhaps some one else has an idea. Thanks for the help Kevin Jones From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 14 22:27:29 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: Easytag question Solved In-Reply-To: <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812141727.29949.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 14 December 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: > OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since both > the Hebrew and Russian versions of the book of Acts was affected there had > to be a common denominator -- the filenames! Both had all the chapters of > Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to ActsofApostles_01 etc. > and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts as it should with - you > guessed it - chapter 1 :-) > As for the reason, I really don't know. Any body care to offer an > explanation? What was the original filename of Act 22? I'm guessing it might have been different. I think many mp3 players deal with the filename for ordering.... and I use great care to keep filenames in sort order. From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sun Dec 14 22:51:05 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:51:05 -0500 Subject: Wifi not connecting (was: Re: RTL8187B!!!!...) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49458DD9.5010500@cfl.rr.com> Lou, I seems as though you have the WiFi working, except it won't connect to other networks. Q: Are the other networks secure? Q: Do you have a personal WiFi router that you want to connect to? Q: Are you using Network Manager? Q: When you attempt connection, what is the error message if any? Q: Do you know your MAC address? Setting up a wireless router involves many settings. I opted to block transmission of the ESSID after connecting the first time. I use MAC address blocking and WPA2 security. But that is only on the personal wireless router. Open WiFi routers do not need any of that. Let me know! Tom -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) On 12/14/2008 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed: > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:39:15 +0100 > From: Nils Kassube > Subject: Re: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200812141439.15770.kassube at gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Lou wrote: >> > Hi Nils, thanks for reply >> > I have a problem with this issue, and nobody arround the world help >> > I like to use kubuntu, but if no work the wireless I can't connect. >> > the problem is that I can see all wireless networks but I can't >> > connect. >> > >> > can you help me ? > > Not really. It could be a problem with the driver for your card, but I > don't have a card with your chip set. Maybe you should really ask on the > Ubuntu-users list because there are more people who might know the > RTL8187B. You can subscribe here: > > > > Nils > From wayward4now at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 00:08:56 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:08:56 -0500 Subject: Easytag question Solved In-Reply-To: <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <1229299738.8467.175.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 22:07 +0200, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: > > I downloaded the New Testament in both Russian (for a friend) and Hebrew. I then used Easytag to > > edit the mp3 tags. This is the first time I have ever edited mp3 tags. > > > > Anyway, I noticed that the original files were all OK (tag wise) except for the book of Acts. No > > matter what I try chapter 22 always starts as the first file (on the mp3 player - a SanDisk Sansa > > - it shows as 01/28, whilst chapter 1 shows as 08/28). > > The only way that I did manage to get the correct playing order (for Acts) was to wipe all the > > mp3 tags. But as soon as I filled them in again the problem came back again. This is true for > > both the Russian and Hebrew files. > > > > There is an option in easytag to number consecutive tracks. It doesn't matter if I do or don't, > > Acts start playing from chapter 22 :-( > > The rest of the NT books are not affected. > > > > It is rather strange - any ideas? > > > > The mp3s can be downloaded for free from: > > http://www.divinerevelations3.info/Documents/Bible/Hebrew_MP3_Bible_NT/Hebrew_MP3 > > > > They are separate files, so if someone would care to download and check the book of Acts I would > > be grateful. > > > > Blessings, > > > > Nigel > > > > OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since both the Hebrew and Russian > versions of the book of Acts was affected there had to be a common denominator -- the filenames! > Both had all the chapters of Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to > ActsofApostles_01 etc. and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts as it should with - you > guessed it - chapter 1 :-) > As for the reason, I really don't know. Any body care to offer an explanation? A miracle?? :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar Mon Dec 15 01:23:56 2008 From: jvr_78 at yahoo.com.ar (Lou) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:23:56 -0300 Subject: Wifi not connecting (was: Re: RTL8187B!!!!...) In-Reply-To: <49458DD9.5010500@cfl.rr.com> References: <49458DD9.5010500@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, thanks for reply in my office exist 5 router wifi, (using "vista" I can connect to all) using kubuntu, I see all using KNetworkManager, (open and secure ) but, when I try to connect, the networkmanager go to 28% and no more, and show me the error that say that we can't connect or similar. can you help me ? yes, I know my MAC address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom bell" To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:51 PM Subject: Wifi not connecting (was: Re: RTL8187B!!!!...) > Lou, > I seems as though you have the WiFi working, except it won't connect to > other networks. > Q: Are the other networks secure? > Q: Do you have a personal WiFi router that you want to connect to? > Q: Are you using Network Manager? > Q: When you attempt connection, what is the error message if any? > Q: Do you know your MAC address? > Setting up a wireless router involves many settings. I opted to block > transmission of the ESSID after connecting the first time. I use MAC > address blocking and WPA2 security. But that is only on the personal > wireless router. Open WiFi routers do not need any of that. > Let me know! > > Tom > -- > “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when > we created them.” > -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) > > On 12/14/2008 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed: >> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:39:15 +0100 >> From: Nils Kassube >> Subject: Re: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Message-ID: <200812141439.15770.kassube at gmx.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Lou wrote: >>> > Hi Nils, thanks for reply >>> > I have a problem with this issue, and nobody arround the world help >>> > I like to use kubuntu, but if no work the wireless I can't connect. >>> > the problem is that I can see all wireless networks but I can't >>> > connect. >>> > >>> > can you help me ? >> >> Not really. It could be a problem with the driver for your card, but I >> don't have a card with your chip set. Maybe you should really ask on the >> Ubuntu-users list because there are more people who might know the >> RTL8187B. You can subscribe here: >> >> >> >> Nils >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam �gratis! �Abr� tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon Dec 15 02:32:45 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:32:45 +0200 Subject: Easytag question Solved In-Reply-To: <200812141727.29949.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> <200812141727.29949.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4945C1CD.8090907@prayingforisrael.net> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since both >> the Hebrew and Russian versions of the book of Acts was affected there had >> to be a common denominator -- the filenames! Both had all the chapters of >> Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to ActsofApostles_01 etc. >> and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts as it should with - you >> guessed it - chapter 1 :-) >> As for the reason, I really don't know. Any body care to offer an >> explanation? > > What was the original filename of Act 22? I'm guessing it might have been > different. > > I think many mp3 players deal with the filename for ordering.... and I use > great care to keep filenames in sort order. > The original [Hebrew] files were in individual zip files for each book, without any 'folders' - I created the 'folders' similar to the Russian version which was a complete zip file for the whole New Testament, and the folder for 'Acts' was named 'Acts', with the individual chapters following the 'Acts_01' format. Blessings, Nigel -- From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Dec 15 02:43:50 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:43:50 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4943D987.5020400@swbell.net> <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812142143.51101.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 13 December 2008 11:13:04 pm Steven Vollom wrote: >however new att clients have > (name)@att.yahoo.com. So, I thought perhaps that peculiarity was perhaps > part of the problem. Apparently it isn't. > > I now believe the problem is with the server, and I cannot afford their > service fee. $100 for Linux users. Still, they are the cheapest monthly > for DSL, so I must keep them. $15 per month DSL. > > Thanks for your continued interest and help, but consider the problem > Resolved, at least as far as I am concerned. Merry Christmas and Happy New > Year, my friend. Steven double check you are using port 995 to send. Also I don't know how many times I've had this accident, but make absolutely sure you typed "smtp" and not "smpt". -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Dec 15 02:47:59 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:47:59 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812141441.49633.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812141441.49633.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812142148.00126.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 14 December 2008 2:41:49 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > Does it always take a click? I thought you said sometimes it would send > > right away. > > It happens every time. > > > Have you looked at the 'sending options' on the bottom of the page of > > the send account page? Lots of ways to screw things up there. > > Yes, they verify as correct. > > Is it possible that bad memory or a power supply could trigger a failure? > It may be a stupid question, however all the posts relate to potential > problems that have been checked a dozen times. Thanks! Steven send me one of those screenies. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 05:55:24 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:55:24 -0700 Subject: No fuzzy clock in Intrepid? In-Reply-To: <880dece00812131027v1957e187v6c18a684e876e85@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812051342k35fee412kaa7299c39bd1e59d@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40812051409n25c5872jd369ce46d412a8be@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00812130428n4a515c8cte6546e362e3eb5cd@mail.gmail.com> <4943BD22.2010208@gmail.com> <4943E4C6.9010507@gmail.com> <880dece00812131027v1957e187v6c18a684e876e85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4945F14C.2070605@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen said the following at 12/13/2008 11:27 AM : > 2008/12/13 D. R. Evans : >> Yes; fuzzy clock is in intrepid's kdeplasma-addons package. >> > > Interesting because the machine in question has that package installed. > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=intrepid§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=plasma_applet_fuzzy_clock.so Doc From girardhenri at free.fr Mon Dec 15 07:03:10 2008 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:03:10 +0100 Subject: ubuntu hardy Message-ID: <1229324590.13767.9.camel@tao> Hello, I must stick to hardy because my computer (acer aspire intel coreduo) refuses kernel 2.6.27 : it blocks to cfg ??? I tried others distro but the same this kernel doesn't pass !! So it might mean that i can't go over ... hardy works fine : I could even install scilab 5 (compiling) and open office, now i installed kde41.2 (can't find kde41.3) and compiled it to kde4 (1.85) but it's too slow ... I would like to know if a kde4.2 is planned for hardy ? i need kdevelop4 and if no a recent version of kde4 it's hard to get compiled. I tried also keeping kernel 2.6.22 and upgrading but i then i loose ATI drivers it's working but not so well because my video card is not well set, no more video drivers available in kernel. regards Henri From mickrulist at voipfuture.com Mon Dec 15 10:17:35 2008 From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:17:35 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812130724.38560.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <200812131527.36395.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> > Now go figure...I updated from ppa at 19:25GMT on 13-Dec and with openoffice.org- > kde v 3.0.0-6ubuntu it seems to run OK without any additional fixes. > > Bug squashed? > Paul > > I don't think so... there is still something strange - at least under Kubuntu. I did follow the steps and OpenOffice is working again - partially. Now the remaining issue I have is PDF export. Neither the quick export from the toolbar nor the one from the file menu is working anymore. OpenOffice just freezes once I select the PDF export feature. Anybody else having this issue? Any suggestion how to possibly fix that? Thanks, Michael From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 10:39:31 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:39:31 +0200 Subject: openoffice.org 3 for Hardy in ppa repos Message-ID: <494633E3.1070308@gmail.com> Suddenly a Hardy version of the Ooo 3 packages have appeared in the ppa repo that used to have only for Intrepid. Has anyone tried to install? this suggested to me that I replace the existing 2.4 so am reluctant to try it out.. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 11:02:49 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:02:49 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> Message-ID: <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Monday 15 December 2008 11:17:35 Michael Krueger wrote: > I don't think so... there is still something strange - at least under > Kubuntu. I did follow the steps and OpenOffice is working again - > partially. Now the remaining issue I have is PDF export. Neither the > quick export from the toolbar nor the one from the file menu is working > anymore. OpenOffice just freezes once I select the PDF export feature. > Anybody else having this issue? Any suggestion how to possibly fix that? I think you need to install Sun's OOo3 if you want that to work. -- lanzen From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 12:00:46 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:00:46 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/15 lanzen : > On Monday 15 December 2008 11:17:35 Michael Krueger wrote: > >> I don't think so... there is still something strange - at least under >> Kubuntu. I did follow the steps and OpenOffice is working again - >> partially. Now the remaining issue I have is PDF export. Neither the >> quick export from the toolbar nor the one from the file menu is working >> anymore. OpenOffice just freezes once I select the PDF export feature. >> Anybody else having this issue? Any suggestion how to possibly fix that? > > I think you need to install Sun's OOo3 if you want that to work. > I just did a quick test and exported a small text file to PDF and it worked OOo 3 from PPA without the openoffice.org-kde. / Jonas From mickrulist at voipfuture.com Mon Dec 15 12:28:37 2008 From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:28:37 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49464D75.8080401@voipfuture.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/15 lanzen : > >> On Monday 15 December 2008 11:17:35 Michael Krueger wrote: >> >> >>> I don't think so... there is still something strange - at least under >>> Kubuntu. I did follow the steps and OpenOffice is working again - >>> partially. Now the remaining issue I have is PDF export. Neither the >>> quick export from the toolbar nor the one from the file menu is working >>> anymore. OpenOffice just freezes once I select the PDF export feature. >>> Anybody else having this issue? Any suggestion how to possibly fix that? >>> >> I think you need to install Sun's OOo3 if you want that to work. >> >> > > I just did a quick test and exported a small text file to PDF and it > worked OOo 3 from PPA without the openoffice.org-kde. > > / Jonas > > I did install OOo3 from this location: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main I did install openoffice.org-kde as well. Then the fixes as described in this thread. The PDF export did work prior the ...6 update. Now it doesn't. So what do you mean with the Sun OOo3... ? If you mean the setup from their homepage, then I can say that I have tried them prior following the suggestions in this thread. I was not able to make them work. Regards, Michael From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 12:38:39 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:38:39 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: <49464D75.8080401@voipfuture.com> References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <49464D75.8080401@voipfuture.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/15 Michael Krueger : > Jonas Norlander wrote: >> 2008/12/15 lanzen : >> >>> On Monday 15 December 2008 11:17:35 Michael Krueger wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I don't think so... there is still something strange - at least under >>>> Kubuntu. I did follow the steps and OpenOffice is working again - >>>> partially. Now the remaining issue I have is PDF export. Neither the >>>> quick export from the toolbar nor the one from the file menu is working >>>> anymore. OpenOffice just freezes once I select the PDF export feature. >>>> Anybody else having this issue? Any suggestion how to possibly fix that? >>>> >>> I think you need to install Sun's OOo3 if you want that to work. >>> >>> >> >> I just did a quick test and exported a small text file to PDF and it >> worked OOo 3 from PPA without the openoffice.org-kde. >> >> / Jonas >> >> > I did install OOo3 from this location: > http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main > > I did install openoffice.org-kde as well. Then the fixes as described in > this thread. > The PDF export did work prior the ...6 update. Now it doesn't. Thats the same version i use but i did not apply any of the "fixes" in this thread except uninstalling the openoffice.org-kde package and OpenOffice works fine for me and a quick test trying to export a small tex file to PDF worked fine for me. > So what do you mean with the Sun OOo3... ? If you mean the setup from > their homepage, then I can say that I have tried them prior following > the suggestions in this thread. I was not able to make them work. I did not say anything about Suns OpenOffice that was Lanzen, I have not tried it. / Jonas From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 15 13:15:02 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:15:02 -0400 Subject: Amarok does not load References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <1568331.bgi3i4mAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812131108.01771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> nepal wrote: > On Friday 12 December 2008 20:59:47 Derek Broughton wrote: >> Only the mesa package is supplying it on my system, but then I just >> purged the nvidia-glx stuff this week. > > What do you mean by "purged"? As in, completely removed: # sudo aptitude purge ~invidia-glx I run vrms, monthly, which lists the non-free software installed on my system. Since it's a laptop, there is zero chance that it will ever need the non-free nvidia or ati modules, so I removed them. I'm not a Richard Stallman devotee, and I don't object to using non-free software on priinciple, but I don't see a need to have it on my system if I don't use it. Some of the stuff that is listed by vrms is, imo, quite free enough. -- derek From mickrulist at voipfuture.com Mon Dec 15 13:16:52 2008 From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:16:52 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 3.0 - currently broken In-Reply-To: References: <493ECDE4.4030906@lemmons.name> <200812131426.27129.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <49462EBF.7060602@voipfuture.com> <200812151202.49328.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <49464D75.8080401@voipfuture.com> Message-ID: <494658C4.1040508@voipfuture.com> Jonas Norlander wrote: > I did not say anything about Suns OpenOffice that was Lanzen, I have > not tried it. > > / Jonas > > I just did uninstall openoffice.org-kde ... The UI does look kind of ugly now, but PDF export is working again. Seems that the openoffice.org-kde package really is broken... Michael From francisco.borges at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 13:24:15 2008 From: francisco.borges at gmail.com (Francisco Borges) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:24:15 +0100 Subject: dual monitor setup with KDE 4.2(beta1) Message-ID: Hello, I just installed Kubuntu in a new computer with dual monitors. Everything looks fine except that KDE seems to use the "secondary" display as primary, as in all new panels, notifications etc all appear on the secondary monitor and not on the primary. There used to be a way to actually change that with KDE 3.5.X; is that already possible with KDE 4.2? Anyone knows of a way to deal with it? Kind regards, -- Francisco From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 15 13:23:01 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:23:01 -0400 Subject: Easytag question Solved References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <1631025.N7ISMIyux5@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since > both the Hebrew and Russian versions of the book of Acts was affected > there had to be a common denominator -- the filenames! Both had all > the chapters of Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to > ActsofApostles_01 etc. and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts > as it should with - you guessed it - chapter 1 :-) As for the reason, > I really don't know. Any body care to offer an explanation? Any explanation I can offer is the wildest of guesses :-) but since you must be dealing with unicode, it seems entirely possible that some had either a non-displaying character in the filename or they had two different characters that looked similar (or identical) on your screen. -- derek From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 13:31:01 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:31:01 +0100 Subject: Open Office -is it possible to prevent blank pages from being automatically inserted? Message-ID: Dear Everybody OpenOffice automatically inserts a blank page at the border between the 'First Page' page style and the 'Default' page style. So far, I only discovered an option NOT to print this blank page: TOOLS > OPTIONS > OpenOffice Writer>print > untick box 'Print automatically inserted blank pages'. However, this option does not work when I export the document to PDF or Word. That's why I am looking for some option to prevent such blank pages from being inserted in the document. In other words: is there any way to OPT OUT of the 'automatically inserted blank pages'- system? Respectfully Yours, Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 15 13:18:16 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:18:16 -0400 Subject: RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! References: <08BDBFF9BD7F44FCB6EEAD2BE79660B5@NoEsHisterica> Message-ID: <1835289.IOyB881z2T@cedar.serverforest.com> Lou wrote: > RTL8187B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, that's certainly annoying and guaranteed to get most of us to ignore you. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 15 13:17:05 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:17:05 -0400 Subject: KDE won't start References: <4943CEED.3030100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1400424.jBpqUSn5Xf@cedar.serverforest.com> Eric wrote: > I have posted here before I think about KDE 4.1 not starting, saying > that KSMserver won't start. I tried starting KDE from the command line > and I got an error message with a little more information. It says > "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE" > > Gnome boots on this computer and so does the other desk manager that's > installed by default (Xfce?). Are they all using the same xorg.conf? It doesn't appear so. > So why won't Kubuntu boot? My guess is > that it's some setting in KDE but I don't know what it might be. No, that doesn't make any sense with the message. -- derek From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Dec 15 14:33:08 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:33:08 +0000 Subject: blue rectangle covering 'system tray' icons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49466AA4.1050002@btinternet.com> I've mentioned this before, I have this blue rectangle which covers or partially covers system tray icons, at the moment it's covering the volume icon, but at different times it covers 'eth0', hplip, skype, time and date. It's also now corrupting the date/time and covering the dolphin icon, it's annoying rather than earth shattering and it seems worst when I'm emailing kubuntu-users-request. Has anybody got anything similar, has anybody got any answers? I'm using T-Bird on kubuntu 8.10 on 64b amd. brian From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon Dec 15 14:45:05 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:45:05 +0200 Subject: Easytag question Solved In-Reply-To: <1631025.N7ISMIyux5@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <49446D68.6050406@prayingforisrael.net> <49456787.4080509@prayingforisrael.net> <1631025.N7ISMIyux5@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <49466D71.4050504@prayingforisrael.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> OK, the answer, for some strange reason, was the filename!!?? Since >> both the Hebrew and Russian versions of the book of Acts was affected >> there had to be a common denominator -- the filenames! Both had all >> the chapters of Acts as Acts_01, Acts_02 etc. I changed them all to >> ActsofApostles_01 etc. and lo and behold the book of Acts now starts >> as it should with - you guessed it - chapter 1 :-) As for the reason, >> I really don't know. Any body care to offer an explanation? > > Any explanation I can offer is the wildest of guesses :-) but since you > must be dealing with unicode, it seems entirely possible that some had > either a non-displaying character in the filename or they had two > different characters that looked similar (or identical) on your screen. I don't think so as I created the folder named 'Acts' that all the chapters are contained in. And the Russian version was created by somebody else in a far away land (probably) and yet both exhibited the same problem. The mystery continues...... Blessings, Nigel -- From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Mon Dec 15 15:12:52 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:12:52 +0100 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <200812131108.01771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812151612.52582.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Monday 15 December 2008 14:15:02 schreef Derek Broughton: > nepal wrote: > > On Friday 12 December 2008 20:59:47 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Only the mesa package is supplying it on my system, but then I just > >> purged the nvidia-glx stuff this week. > > > > What do you mean by "purged"? > > As in, completely removed: > > # sudo aptitude purge ~invidia-glx > > I run vrms, monthly, which lists the non-free software installed on my > system. Since it's a laptop, there is zero chance that it will ever > need the non-free nvidia or ati modules, so I removed them. I'm not a > Richard Stallman devotee, and I don't object to using non-free software > on priinciple, but I don't see a need to have it on my system if I don't > use it. Some of the stuff that is listed by vrms is, imo, quite free > enough. > -- > derek Derek, Ik would like to think in the same line as you. But I am not sure how to a free driver run my new Asus 9500GT 512 PCI-e? Can you advise? I now use NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run from the Asus-site. Pretty intreging to run. Needs runlevel 2 and no X loaded. -- m.vr.gr., Peter Klaassen Landbouwstraat 33 1741 EG Schagen Tel.06-22574211 Registered Linux user # 458207 From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 15:14:29 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:14:29 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812132313.05029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:02:46 Billie Walsh wrote: > I still feel like there is some configuration > problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. i agree, I had terrible problems getting kmail setup when I newly installed 8.04 here. The problem manifests similarly to Stephen's. I post and the message gets dumped in the out tray til I fix it, and there is nothing to fix. What I narrowed it down to was a problem with more than one transport protocol (i.e. the smtp account). Whenever I tried to send a message with a google account the transport protocol kept defaulting to mypostoffice smtp account and so obviously would not send. I tried all manner of tweaking to fix it and also noticed that on occasions the setup changes I had made in kmail settings did not get carried into the kmail currently running and that in order to get those changes applied I had to quit and restart kmail. To fix the transport protocol problem, in the end I erased the mypostoffice smtp accounts, and set googlemail up as the only transport protocol, so everything gets posted/carried through googlemail now and works correctly. Still IMO, this problem with defaulting to a transport protocol that is not suited to the email address chosen for the sender is a bug. nepal. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 15:29:54 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:29:54 +0000 Subject: Amarok does not load In-Reply-To: <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <200812131108.01771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812151529.54282.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Monday 15 December 2008 13:15:02 Derek Broughton wrote: > As in, completely removed: ok, what is completely removed? Following a purge, does the system get left as if the software just purged had never touched down on that system? i.e. all traces of that software are removed, including user config files? nepal. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 15:34:22 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:22 +0000 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812132121.00679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812151534.22248.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:33:06 Bruce Marshall wrote: > b) There was something wrong with the addressing, in which case it would > not get sent. > > In either case there was a clear message as to why things didn't go. as mentioned in another thread on this topic the problem appears to do with the transport protocol. i.e. the smtp server for 'mypostoffice' will not send googlemail messages. Yet that was the default being set by kmail. nepal. From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 15:36:46 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:36:46 +0100 Subject: blue rectangle covering 'system tray' icons In-Reply-To: <49466AA4.1050002@btinternet.com> References: <49466AA4.1050002@btinternet.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/15 Brian Norman Wootton : > I've mentioned this before, I have this blue rectangle which covers or > partially covers > system tray icons, at the moment it's covering the volume icon, but at > different times it covers 'eth0', hplip, skype, time and date. It's also > now corrupting the date/time and > covering the dolphin icon, it's annoying rather than earth shattering > and it seems worst > when I'm emailing kubuntu-users-request. Has anybody got anything > similar, has anybody got any answers? I'm using T-Bird on kubuntu 8.10 > on 64b amd. > brian > Too me it looks like you are running Nvidia restricted drivers? In that case it's a known bug and fixed with latest nvidia beta driver. My hope is that Kubuntu would released the beta driver in backports as the current version in has many bugs. / Jonas From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 15 18:11:33 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:11:33 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200812151311.33712.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 15 December 2008, nepal wrote: > Still IMO, this problem with defaulting to a transport protocol that is not > suited to the email address chosen for the sender is a bug. What did you have set for the 'default' transport ? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 15 18:13:16 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:13:16 -0500 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812151534.22248.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812140933.06580.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812151534.22248.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200812151313.16471.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 15 December 2008, nepal wrote: > as mentioned in another thread on this topic > > > > the problem appears to do with the transport protocol. i.e. the smtp server > for 'mypostoffice' will not send googlemail messages. Yet that was the > default being set by kmail. So why didn't you set the default to something proper? From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 15 18:14:39 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:14:39 +0100 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4944F5E6.7010208@swbell.net> <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> nepal wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:02:46 Billie Walsh wrote: > > I still feel like there is some configuration > > problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. > > i agree, I had terrible problems getting kmail setup when I newly > installed 8.04 here. The problem manifests similarly to Stephen's. I > post and the message gets dumped in the out tray til I fix it, and > there is nothing to fix. I don't think it is the same problem because IIRC Steven only ever mentioned one email account. > What I narrowed it down to was a problem with more than one transport > protocol (i.e. the smtp account). Whenever I tried to send a message > with a google account the transport protocol kept defaulting to > mypostoffice smtp account and so obviously would not send. I tried all > manner of tweaking to fix it I never see a problem like that. Did you enable the "special transport" option for each identity? And did you select the correct transport for the individual identities? > To fix the transport protocol problem, > in the end I erased the mypostoffice smtp accounts, and set googlemail > up as the only transport protocol, so everything gets posted/carried > through googlemail now and works correctly. Interesting. Does googlemail accept sending from addresses of other accounts? I know that none of the providers I use would accept that. Nils From paul at lemmons.name Mon Dec 15 18:48:14 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:48:14 -0700 Subject: Synchronizing music In-Reply-To: <4942D637.4070607@lemmons.name> References: <4942D637.4070607@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4946A66E.9050605@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Synchronizing music From: Paul Lemmons To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 12/12/2008 02:23 PM > I got a new MP3 player (Sansa Fuse 4GB + 4GB micro SD). After fiddling > with it a bit and setting the USB to be MSC mode instead of MTP it > connects to Ibex flawlessly. Yea! I then connected to it using Amarok > and copied a bunch of music to it: Roughly 7GB. I noticed that there > were too many categories represented by the ID3-TAGS and some album art > was missing. So I spent some time updating ID tags and Album art. Now, I > want to update what is on the MP3 player and I don't see how. Unless I > am missing something, it appears that Amarok is nothing more than a > glorified file manager. There does not seem to be a way to "sync" my > music. > > So, the question is simple... How do I "sync" updates such as ID3 Tags > and Album art without formatting the device and going completely through > the selection process again? > *bump* Interesting. I don't know that I have ever gotten absolutely no response to a question posed on this group before. Makes me wonder if the post actually made it. If it did make it I apologize for replying to my own post. If it did make it to the list, am I the only one that has ever gone down this road? -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is a basic article that explains its simple usuage and this issue: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/ubuntu_applications/amarok Amarok power users on this list, please correct me if I am off-base here. Cheers, Geoffrey Bays On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Paul Lemmons wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Synchronizing music > From: Paul Lemmons > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: 12/12/2008 02:23 PM >> >> I got a new MP3 player (Sansa Fuse 4GB + 4GB micro SD). After fiddling >> with it a bit and setting the USB to be MSC mode instead of MTP it >> connects to Ibex flawlessly. Yea! I then connected to it using Amarok >> and copied a bunch of music to it: Roughly 7GB. I noticed that there >> were too many categories represented by the ID3-TAGS and some album art >> was missing. So I spent some time updating ID tags and Album art. Now, I >> want to update what is on the MP3 player and I don't see how. Unless I >> am missing something, it appears that Amarok is nothing more than a >> glorified file manager. There does not seem to be a way to "sync" my >> music. >> >> So, the question is simple... How do I "sync" updates such as ID3 Tags >> and Album art without formatting the device and going completely through >> the selection process again? >> > *bump* > > Interesting. I don't know that I have ever gotten absolutely no response to > a question posed on this group before. Makes me wonder if the post actually > made it. If it did make it I apologize for replying to my own post. If it > did make it to the list, am I the only one that has ever gone down this > road? > > -- > Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, > would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the > height and breadth of it. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From charioteer7 at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 19:41:30 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:41:30 -0500 Subject: Synchronizing music In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812151108ua0563f8v16ae694b2eaa19b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4942D637.4070607@lemmons.name> <4946A66E.9050605@lemmons.name> <646a014e0812151108ua0563f8v16ae694b2eaa19b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <646a014e0812151141y6838844fs5adc983dd5d666fc@mail.gmail.com> Paul: It appears that maybe you can sync your music with Amarok 1.4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=737252 If you have the new Amarok 2.0 on Intrepid, I do not know if that feature has been replicated. cheers, Geoffrey Bays On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Geoffrey Bays wrote: > Paul: > > Your messages have definitely made it to the Kubuntu list. > > Regarding amarok, I just use it very basically, to play collections of > ogg files I have on my system or on my iRiver device. > As I understand it, Amarok does not 'sync' with a player device. You > can copy music to amarok from a device, but you must do it manually. > It may gain a sync feature in a future release. Here is a basic > article that explains its simple usuage and this issue: > > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/ubuntu_applications/amarok > > Amarok power users on this list, please correct me if I am off-base here. > > Cheers, > > Geoffrey Bays > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Paul Lemmons wrote: >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Synchronizing music >> From: Paul Lemmons >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >> Date: 12/12/2008 02:23 PM >>> >>> I got a new MP3 player (Sansa Fuse 4GB + 4GB micro SD). After fiddling >>> with it a bit and setting the USB to be MSC mode instead of MTP it >>> connects to Ibex flawlessly. Yea! I then connected to it using Amarok >>> and copied a bunch of music to it: Roughly 7GB. I noticed that there >>> were too many categories represented by the ID3-TAGS and some album art >>> was missing. So I spent some time updating ID tags and Album art. Now, I >>> want to update what is on the MP3 player and I don't see how. Unless I >>> am missing something, it appears that Amarok is nothing more than a >>> glorified file manager. There does not seem to be a way to "sync" my >>> music. >>> >>> So, the question is simple... How do I "sync" updates such as ID3 Tags >>> and Album art without formatting the device and going completely through >>> the selection process again? >>> >> *bump* >> >> Interesting. I don't know that I have ever gotten absolutely no response to >> a question posed on this group before. Makes me wonder if the post actually >> made it. If it did make it I apologize for replying to my own post. If it >> did make it to the list, am I the only one that has ever gone down this >> road? >> >> -- >> Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, >> would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the >> height and breadth of it. >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Mon Dec 15 19:59:20 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:59:20 +0100 Subject: rippen in K3B Message-ID: <200812152059.20858.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Everytime I start a rip I get twice an errormessage that kio-audiocd is loaded and should be closed for optimal ripping facilities. fyi nothing is loaded as far as I know. How can this error be avoided. -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 20:13:25 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:13:25 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu Message-ID: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> I have this slim portable HD that I formatted ntfs so I could use it with win and lin.   Kubuntu really hates it. Ubuntu complains, but if you do what it says in the warning, it works fine with it. With Kubuntu 8.04/KDE 3.5.10, if the fs seems dirty, it ignores it.  dmesg throws out some errors, but hal does nothing. There is no warning. With Ubuntu 8.04 eee, hal might complain that the file system is dirty.  All I have to do is mount it manually with the force parameter and unmount it cleanly, and it works fine. At that point (after mounting and unmounting in Gnome), the Kubuntu hal will mount it, but the access is really, really slow. Any ideas on the difference? Would reformatting it ext3 help?   I was thinking I'd create a really small fat32 partion and put the ext3 driver for windows there so that I could install it if I ever need it on a windows system. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 20:24:30 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:24:30 -0700 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? Message-ID: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> I realise that this isn't really the place to ask this question; but I couldn't find anywhere better (there doesn't seem to be a reflector for plasma users). I keep reading hints (especially from Aaron) that plasma is somehow supposed to be completely different from any kind of desktop we've ever seen before. Yet to me it doesn't seem to be fundamentally different from pretty much any modern desktop capable of running widgets. I'm obviously missing something deep. Can someone here please either explain what is supposed to be so awesomely different about plasma, or point me to a coherent explanation. Sorry again to be a bit off-topic for this reflector. Doc From mlsoft at videotron.ca Mon Dec 15 20:38:18 2008 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:38:18 -0500 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812151538.18594.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On Monday 15 December 2008 15:24:30 D. R. Evans wrote: > I realise that this isn't really the place to ask this question; but I > couldn't find anywhere better (there doesn't seem to be a reflector for > plasma users). > > I keep reading hints (especially from Aaron) that plasma is somehow > supposed to be completely different from any kind of desktop we've ever > seen before. Yet to me it doesn't seem to be fundamentally different from > pretty much any modern desktop capable of running widgets. I'm obviously > missing something deep. Can someone here please either explain what is > supposed to be so awesomely different about plasma, or point me to a > coherent explanation. > > Sorry again to be a bit off-topic for this reflector. > > Doc > > > I am not sure, but I think they Microsoftified or Trekified the interface, by abstracting functionnality to the user. A very good thing(tm) if Trekified, but I am not sure about the other way. And we are only at the beginning of it, so I think there will emerge a great desktop in some years from this Trekification, but we are not there yet. (my viewpoint) -- Martin Laberge mlsoft at videotron.ca Tel:(418)521-6823 30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning... From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 20:57:12 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:57:12 +0000 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <200812151313.16471.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812151534.22248.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151313.16471.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812152057.12691.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Monday 15 December 2008 18:13:16 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 15 December 2008, nepal wrote: > > as mentioned in another thread on this topic > > > > > > > > the problem appears to do with the transport protocol. i.e. the > > smtp server for 'mypostoffice' will not send googlemail messages. > > Yet that was the default being set by kmail. > > So why didn't you set the default to something proper? I don't understand your question, what do you mean by "proper". Originally I set the default as my main ??@mypostoffice.co.uk smtp account. However when I wished to use a googlemail account to send a message, the transport protocol would still default to @mypostoffice.... and the message would fail to get sent. I even remember many occasions that I selected a googlemail transport protocol, and hit re-send, yet the default @mypostoffice.co.uk returned. This version of kde and kmail is the first encounter I have had with transport protocols and these associated prpblems. All I did in the past was enter each of the smtp accounts that I wanted to use, and then select the appropriate email address to use them. nepal. From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 15 21:00:41 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:41 +0100 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > With Ubuntu 8.04 eee, hal might complain that the file system is dirty. All I > have to do is mount it manually with the force parameter and unmount it > cleanly, and it works fine. Either try with ntfsfix or better scan the filesystem in windows. > > At that point (after mounting and unmounting in Gnome), the Kubuntu hal will > mount it, but the access is really, really slow. > > Any ideas on the difference? > > Would reformatting it ext3 help? definitely. Since I am on ext3, ntfs problems are a thing of the past. > > I was thinking I'd create a really small fat32 partion and put the ext3 driver > for windows there so that I could install it if I ever need it on a windows > system. samrt idea. Thanks much! Eberhard > From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 21:01:37 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:01:37 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812152101.38105.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Monday 15 December 2008 18:14:39 Nils Kassube wrote: > nepal wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:02:46 Billie Walsh wrote: > > > I still feel like there is some configuration > > > problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. > > > > i agree, I had terrible problems getting kmail setup when I newly > > installed 8.04 here. The problem manifests similarly to > > Stephen's. I post and the message gets dumped in the out tray til > > I fix it, and there is nothing to fix. > > I don't think it is the same problem because IIRC Steven only ever > mentioned one email account. Its going back a bit now, but IIRC he did. > > What I narrowed it down to was a problem with more than one > > transport protocol (i.e. the smtp account). Whenever I tried to > > send a message with a google account the transport protocol kept > > defaulting to mypostoffice smtp account and so obviously would > > not send. I tried all manner of tweaking to fix it > > I never see a problem like that. Did you enable the "special > transport" option for each identity? And did you select the correct > transport for the individual identities? Yes, tried all of that without success and mucho mucho frustration. > > To fix the transport protocol problem, > > in the end I erased the mypostoffice smtp accounts, and set > > googlemail up as the only transport protocol, so everything gets > > posted/carried through googlemail now and works correctly. > > Interesting. Does googlemail accept sending from addresses of other > accounts? I know that none of the providers I use would accept > that. > > > Nils Yes, it does exactly that, so if I want to send a mail from one of my @mypostoffice.co.uk accounts, now I can do it this way as Googlemail allows me to. nepal. From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Dec 15 21:05:26 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:05:26 +0000 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151311.33712.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151311.33712.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812152105.26479.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Monday 15 December 2008 18:11:33 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 15 December 2008, nepal wrote: > > Still IMO, this problem with defaulting to a transport protocol > > that is not suited to the email address chosen for the sender is > > a bug. > > What did you have set for the 'default' transport ? originally it was one of the @mypostoffice.co.uk accounts, but only because I had chosen to enter them first (being my new ISP and being my main email accounts). But as I said before Bruce, I never had to mess around like this with setting or selecting specific transport protocols, I don't remember it ever being an issue before, but I could be mistaken, maybe it just wasn't an issue with my previous provider, Virgin. But tbh, I don't even remember seeing a 'transport protocol' before either... nepal. From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Dec 15 21:11:56 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:11:56 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151514.29937.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812151611.56256.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 15 December 2008 1:14:39 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > nepal wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:02:46 Billie Walsh wrote: > > > I still feel like there is some configuration > > > problem with kmail but I'm not a kmail user so have no idea. > > > > i agree, I had terrible problems getting kmail setup when I newly > > installed 8.04 here. The problem manifests similarly to Stephen's. I > > post and the message gets dumped in the out tray til I fix it, and > > there is nothing to fix. > > I don't think it is the same problem because IIRC Steven only ever > mentioned one email account. > > > What I narrowed it down to was a problem with more than one transport > > protocol (i.e. the smtp account). Whenever I tried to send a message > > with a google account the transport protocol kept defaulting to > > mypostoffice smtp account and so obviously would not send. I tried all > > manner of tweaking to fix it > > I never see a problem like that. Did you enable the "special transport" > option for each identity? And did you select the correct transport for > the individual identities? > > > To fix the transport protocol problem, > > in the end I erased the mypostoffice smtp accounts, and set googlemail > > up as the only transport protocol, so everything gets posted/carried > > through googlemail now and works correctly. > > Interesting. Does googlemail accept sending from addresses of other > accounts? I know that none of the providers I use would accept that. I think this is solved for Steven. Anyone who got screenshots probably didn't notice he had "login" checked instead of "plain". He sent me an e-mail about the fix at 11am this morning. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Mon Dec 15 21:14:06 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:14:06 -0500 Subject: Wifi not connecting (was: Re: RTL8187B!!!!...) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4946C89E.1000506@cfl.rr.com> On 12/14/2008 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed: > in my office exist 5 router wifi, (using "vista" I can connect to all) > using kubuntu, I see all using KNetworkManager, (open and secure ) > but, when I try to connect, the networkmanager go to 28% and no more, > and show me the error that say that we can't connect or similar. > can you help me ? > > yes, I know my MAC address. Okay... Q: Do you have the password set in KNetworkManager? As long as you can see at least one wireless network the NIC in your computer is working fine with kubuntu. It is just a matter of getting your computer to connect with the router. Making sure your MAC is not blocked by the router and that you have an ITP address that is not conflicting with any other computer. Normally that is handled automatically, however, sometimes that ITP for a client needs to be manually set. Check the ITP you get when you logon with "vista" and see if your computer NIC under kubuntu has the same. Let me know! Tom -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 15 21:17:41 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:17:41 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151611.56256.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151914.39864.kassube@gmx.net> <200812151611.56256.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812151617.41265.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > > I think this is solved for Steven. Anyone who got screenshots probably > didn't notice he had "login" checked instead of "plain". He sent me an > e-mail about the fix at 11am this morning. I hate to ask, but what does that change do? Additionally, did I make that choice at some time or was it defaulted into the configuration? Steven From paul at lemmons.name Mon Dec 15 22:06:27 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:06:27 -0700 Subject: Synchronizing music In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812151108ua0563f8v16ae694b2eaa19b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4942D637.4070607@lemmons.name> <4946A66E.9050605@lemmons.name> <646a014e0812151108ua0563f8v16ae694b2eaa19b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4946D4E3.5060309@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:Synchronizing music From: "Geoffrey Bays" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Date: 12/15/2008 12:08 PM > Paul: > > Your messages have definitely made it to the Kubuntu list. > > Regarding amarok, I just use it very basically, to play collections of > ogg files I have on my system or on my iRiver device. > As I understand it, Amarok does not 'sync' with a player device. You > can copy music to amarok from a device, but you must do it manually. > It may gain a sync feature in a future release. Here is a basic > article that explains its simple usuage and this issue: > > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/ubuntu_applications/amarok > > Amarok power users on this list, please correct me if I am off-base here. > > Cheers, > > Geoffrey Bays > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Synchronizing music >> From: Paul Lemmons >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >> Date: 12/12/2008 02:23 PM >> >>> I got a new MP3 player (Sansa Fuse 4GB + 4GB micro SD). After fiddling >>> with it a bit and setting the USB to be MSC mode instead of MTP it >>> connects to Ibex flawlessly. Yea! I then connected to it using Amarok >>> and copied a bunch of music to it: Roughly 7GB. I noticed that there >>> were too many categories represented by the ID3-TAGS and some album art >>> was missing. So I spent some time updating ID tags and Album art. Now, I >>> want to update what is on the MP3 player and I don't see how. Unless I >>> am missing something, it appears that Amarok is nothing more than a >>> glorified file manager. There does not seem to be a way to "sync" my >>> music. >>> >>> So, the question is simple... How do I "sync" updates such as ID3 Tags >>> and Album art without formatting the device and going completely through >>> the selection process again? >>> >>> >> *bump* >> >> Interesting. I don't know that I have ever gotten absolutely no response to >> a question posed on this group before. Makes me wonder if the post actually >> made it. If it did make it I apologize for replying to my own post. If it >> did make it to the list, am I the only one that has ever gone down this >> road? >> >> I appreciate the response! It appears that there is no way to "sync" mobile devices. This is a sad thing. So, I have deleted everything from the player and am now copying my music back to it. This is pretty lame. I hope that the incredibly talented developers of Amarok 2.0 address this! -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From lists at ptfd.org Tue Dec 16 02:03:14 2008 From: lists at ptfd.org (lists at ptfd.org) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:03:14 -0500 Subject: pdflush ,kjournald, disk is too busy? Message-ID: <200812152103.15673.lists@ptfd.org> The hd on my laptop is just too busy. (Intrepid up to date system 2gig memory, Dell D820) It site idle and everything is fine, then when I want to do something suddenly the HD light comes on and everything is sluggish. System Monitor shows everything is fine as far as cpu and memory, but when it is running the kjournald, pdflush shows several processes running, and in teh percent cpu col. it shows "disk sleep" I dont remember setting anything in particular up strange that I have not used before. Any ideas appreciated, this is really annoying... Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Chief Porter Fire Department Powered by Kubuntu-8.10, KDE-4.2beta From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Tue Dec 16 02:28:52 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:28:52 +0200 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > I realise that this isn't really the place to ask this question; but I > couldn't find anywhere better (there doesn't seem to be a reflector for > plasma users). > > I keep reading hints (especially from Aaron) that plasma is somehow > supposed to be completely different from any kind of desktop we've ever > seen before. Yet to me it doesn't seem to be fundamentally different from > pretty much any modern desktop capable of running widgets. I'm obviously > missing something deep. Can someone here please either explain what is > supposed to be so awesomely different about plasma, or point me to a > coherent explanation. > > Sorry again to be a bit off-topic for this reflector. > > Doc > > > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ Blessings, Nigel From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Dec 16 03:38:16 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:38:16 -0500 Subject: konqueror search engines In-Reply-To: <200812151617.41265.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812022233.28654.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151611.56256.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812151617.41265.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812152238.16722.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 15 December 2008 4:17:41 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > I think this is solved for Steven. Anyone who got screenshots probably > > didn't notice he had "login" checked instead of "plain". He sent me an > > e-mail about the fix at 11am this morning. > > I hate to ask, but what does that change do? Additionally, did I make that > choice at some time or was it defaulted into the configuration? I'm not sure how it got that way. I usually just click "check what the server supports" and it automatically selects "plain". -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 16 07:24:54 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:24:54 +0100 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eberhard Roloff wrote: > definitely. Since I am on ext3, ntfs problems are a thing of the past. >> I was thinking I'd create a really small fat32 partion and put the ext3 driver >> for windows there so that I could install it if I ever need it on a windows >> system. > smart idea. Thanks much! > Hi, it just came to my mind. You most probhably need to have Administrator Privileges to install the Ext3 filesystem driver on windows. That means, that you cannot expect this to work with any windows machine that you see out there. However, 95% of windows machines where the user routinely works as an administrator, might be ok for a start. ;-)) Kind regards Eberhard From rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk Tue Dec 16 10:38:41 2008 From: rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk (R C Mitchell) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:38:41 +0000 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:28:52 Nigel Ridley wrote: > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ Wherein one may find: > What is wrong with the current desktop technology? > > Today's desktops are static. Typically they are tied to a folder in which > one can find icons (application launchers), or user-placed documents and > folders. Along with pictures and images as backgrounds, the current desktop > doesn't go any further, or work for the user. Plasma takes a different > approach, engaging the user by creating a dynamic and highly customizable > environment. Which prompts me to ask: "Who are you? And what have you done with the real KDE team?" As it has clearly been taken over by alien marketing wonks talking marketing gibberish and not answering their own question. I like KDE 3.5 a lot. It does everything I need it to do, and I don't see any pressing need for customising different desktops. My desktop contains the things that I'm working with and when I've finished with them I put them away (but maybe that's a woman thing.) I don't like KDE 4. I don't like all that black, which is oppressively macho, and although I finally worked out how to change my background I can't seem to vary the atmosphere very much. I don't like plasmoids because they clutter up my desktop, which it seems to me is what plasma is trying to avoid. I like to see my essential information (time, date, moon phase (= state of the tide), local weather with temperature, pressure and (absolutely essential) wind speed and direction, tucked away in a small corner where I can see them clearly and succinctly at a glance. It's possible, of course, that I may learn to love KDE 4 and its successors given time. I'm planning to keep trying, out of harm's way on my spare HDD, but meanwhile it looks like if I want to progress with Ubuntu then I may have to resort to Gnome, which I also dislike although not as much as I do KDE 4 (An acceptable replacement for Epiphany would be a good start.) Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by reasoned argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to accept the challenge? Rosie -- CURRENTLY READING: The Rainbow, by DH Lawrence Pie'n'Mushies: Barrow Day-by-Day http://pieandmushies.wordpress.com I am not young enough to know everything -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 12:34:02 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:34:02 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812160434p4747f98fqe5f6d88c83916add@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Eberhard Roloff wrote: > >> definitely. Since I am on ext3, ntfs problems are a thing of the past. >>> I was thinking I'd create a really small fat32 partion and put the ext3 driver >>> for windows there so that I could install it if I ever need it on a windows >>> system. >> smart idea. Thanks much! >> > Hi, > > it just came to my mind. > > You most probhably need to have Administrator Privileges to install the > Ext3 filesystem driver on windows. > > That means, that you cannot expect this to work with any windows machine > that you see out there. > > However, 95% of windows machines where the user routinely works as an > administrator, might be ok for a start. ;-)) Good point, Eberhard. I expect I will be able to gain administrator privileges when I need to as it will usually involve a machine I am troubleshooting or repairing. By the way, it happened again after a reboot with the drive plugged in. Plugged it into gnome laptop and it mounted fine. This is the same version of k/ubuntu. And it it isn't the individual machine. At home I have a kubuntu 8.04 desktop and a laptop with ubuntu (gnome) 8.04. Automounts on the laptop, and won't even create an unmounted device on the desktop. At work, it is the same thing. Ignored by kubuntu 8.04 desktop, and automounts on Ubuntu 8.10 desktop and winxp desktop. Why is kubuntu or kde having a problem with this drive that other systems do not have? -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 13:00:23 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:00:23 +0100 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: > > I like KDE 3.5 a lot. It does everything I need it to do, and I don't see > any > pressing need for customising different desktops. My desktop contains the > things that I'm working with and when I've finished with them I put them > away > (but maybe that's a woman thing.) First there is always Xubuntu, Second, KDE 4 lets you do whatever you want. You can make it however you want, also it is themed and someone somewhere will make a nice pink and white desktop with roses and ponies before long. > It's possible, of course, that I may learn to love KDE 4 and its successors > given time. I'm planning to keep trying, out of harm's way on my spare > HDD, > but meanwhile it looks like if I want to progress with Ubuntu then I may > have > to resort to Gnome, which I also dislike although not as much as I do KDE 4 > (An acceptable replacement for Epiphany would be a good start.) > > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to > accept > the challenge? > > Rosie Watch this: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCK0eWV4h4&feature=related -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk Tue Dec 16 13:24:30 2008 From: rcm at swimbarrow.co.uk (R C Mitchell) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:24:30 +0000 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812161324.30113.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 13:00:23 Knapp wrote: > > First there is always Xubuntu, Second, KDE 4 lets you do whatever you want. > You can make it however you want, also it is themed and someone somewhere > will make a nice pink and white desktop with roses and ponies before long. Ho ho! Very funny! Have you ever thought of doing stand-up? You'd be a riot at the Drill Hall! > Watch this: > http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCK0eWV4h4&feature=related Boys and their toys, huh? I see - the flashier the geewhizzery the bigger the plonker you are^H^H^H have! ;) Now, is there anybody else prepared to take on the challenge without being patronising? Rosie -- CURRENTLY READING: The Rainbow, by DH Lawrence Pie'n'Mushies: Barrow Day-by-Day http://pieandmushies.wordpress.com I am not young enough to know everything From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 16 13:26:48 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:26:48 -0400 Subject: Amarok does not load References: <200812122057.02048.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> <200812131108.01771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <5029073.Jp9BHQgMgP@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812151612.52582.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: <21580348.ZZkomORT3t@cedar.serverforest.com> Peter Klaassen wrote: > Ik would like to think in the same line as you. But I am not sure > how to a free driver run my new Asus 9500GT 512 PCI-e? > Can you advise? Not me - I was able to purge all the nvidia stuff because I don't _have_ an nvidia graphics card :-) -- derek From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 13:34:55 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:34:55 +0100 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161324.30113.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> <200812161324.30113.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM, R C Mitchell wrote: > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 13:00:23 Knapp wrote: > > > > First there is always Xubuntu, Second, KDE 4 lets you do whatever you > want. > > You can make it however you want, also it is themed and someone somewhere > > will make a nice pink and white desktop with roses and ponies before > long. > > Ho ho! Very funny! Have you ever thought of doing stand-up? You'd be a > riot > at the Drill Hall! > > > Watch this: > > http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCK0eWV4h4&feature=related > > Boys and their toys, huh? I see - the flashier the geewhizzery the bigger > the > plonker you are^H^H^H have! ;) > > Now, is there anybody else prepared to take on the challenge without being > patronising? > > > Rosie > That was not patronizing. Have you ever looked at all the themes out there for other software? Also your first post was a bit sexist as is this one. A quick google brings up this. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lauraj.net/portfolio/GameArt/Toonstruck/fluffyThemeB.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lauraj.net/portfolio/GameArt/Toonstruck/Themepack.htm&h=600&w=800&sz=101&tbnid=JOeWdtiET30J::&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpink%2Bthemes&usg=__x9yWEXesA_hjyCghLRGEJXz8GdQ=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&cd=1 -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> Simple question to which I can't find the answer: how do I download the source for a package (preferably using synaptic; I have "source code" checked in the repository list, but I can't find anything that tells me what to do in order to actually download source). Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 16 14:51:41 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:51:41 -0600 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <4947C07D.10106@swbell.net> R C Mitchell wrote: > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:28:52 Nigel Ridley wrote: > > >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ >> > > Wherein one may find: > > >> What is wrong with the current desktop technology? >> >> Today's desktops are static. Typically they are tied to a folder in which >> one can find icons (application launchers), or user-placed documents and >> folders. Along with pictures and images as backgrounds, the current desktop >> doesn't go any further, or work for the user. Plasma takes a different >> approach, engaging the user by creating a dynamic and highly customizable >> environment. >> > > Which prompts me to ask: > > "Who are you? And what have you done with the real KDE team?" > > As it has clearly been taken over by alien marketing wonks talking marketing > gibberish and not answering their own question. > > I like KDE 3.5 a lot. It does everything I need it to do, and I don't see any > pressing need for customising different desktops. My desktop contains the > things that I'm working with and when I've finished with them I put them away > (but maybe that's a woman thing.) > > I don't like KDE 4. I don't like all that black, which is oppressively macho, > and although I finally worked out how to change my background I can't seem to > vary the atmosphere very much. I don't like plasmoids because they clutter > up my desktop, which it seems to me is what plasma is trying to avoid. I > like to see my essential information (time, date, moon phase (= state of the > tide), local weather with temperature, pressure and (absolutely essential) > wind speed and direction, tucked away in a small corner where I can see them > clearly and succinctly at a glance. > > It's possible, of course, that I may learn to love KDE 4 and its successors > given time. I'm planning to keep trying, out of harm's way on my spare HDD, > but meanwhile it looks like if I want to progress with Ubuntu then I may have > to resort to Gnome, which I also dislike although not as much as I do KDE 4 > (An acceptable replacement for Epiphany would be a good start.) > > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to accept > the challenge? > > Rosie > > > I can think of no good persuasive argument against anything you said. I have to agree with everything. The only excuse for KDE4.x I can come up with is that one of the devs bought a new computer and was blown away with all the eye candy. SO, they are trying to make KDE as much like Vista desktop as possible. I also have KDE4.x [ 64 bit vs. 386 on this drive ] on a separate hard drive. I find it to be slower in a lot of ways. When opening a window, or drop down, I see this "box" full of hash for a couple seconds before anything intelligible shows. Kind of like an old TV that's losing horizontal sync. Anything where your moving an object [ moving a card in Patience for instance ] within a window is also slower than 3.5.x. It's like it takes way to much processor power to write to the screen. [ 3.6 intel dual core processor. ] I have absolutely NO need for eye candy. If that was what I wanted I would use Vista because, honestly, they have have KDE4.x beat all the H___ in that respect. I just want a stable, good OS, that I can use without a lot of fuss and bother. I'll try out KDE 4.2 when it's released and probably won't seriously consider a complete move to KDE 4.x until at least Kubuntu 9.10. I still like KDE X.x better than Gnome. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 16 15:04:44 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:04:44 +0100 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: On 12/16/2008 R C Mitchell wrote: > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by > reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to > accept > the challenge? > Hi Rosie, I never accept a task that I cannot win.:-) I suggest you continue with 3.5x until you'll find something better to do your work. I changed to Kubuntu 8.10 where I am (sort of) forced to use KDE 4. There are times when I regret it! After a while I must say, I like KDE 4 more and more and it is getting better, one step after the other. Having said this, I also have two different desktops available to do "real work" when I feel "overcandied". One is xubuntu, the other is fluxbox. It's good to be on Linux where a reasonable girl can freely choose what desktop environment she likes to use. Kind regards Eberhard From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 15:17:39 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:17:39 -0700 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <4947C693.9090806@gmail.com> R C Mitchell said the following at 12/16/2008 03:38 AM : > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:28:52 Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ > > Wherein one may find: > >> What is wrong with the current desktop technology? >> >> Today's desktops are static. Typically they are tied to a folder in which >> one can find icons (application launchers), or user-placed documents and >> folders. Along with pictures and images as backgrounds, the current desktop >> doesn't go any further, or work for the user. Plasma takes a different >> approach, engaging the user by creating a dynamic and highly customizable >> environment. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing that prompted me to ask the original question. ("Today's desktops are static"? What's that supposed to mean? The desktop on my KDE3 sure doesn't look static. But I sort-of digress.) Somehow it seems like there has to be more to it than pretty-desktop-with-widgets, but the fact that I can't seem to find a clear description that distills to anything different than that makes me wonder if it really is just market-speak. But surely they wouldn't completely rewrite everything if that's all there was to it (I mean, we already had pretty-desktop-with-widgets with KDE 3.x). So I have to be misunderstanding -- but I'm not the only one, not by a long chalk; everything I read, except from developers, comes down to "KDE4 is pretty-desktop-with-widgets"; the developers seem to think it's more than that, but they incredibly opaque about what else it is. Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 16 15:26:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:26:47 -0500 Subject: Video Player Problems Message-ID: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> After Reading Douglas Knapp's comment on 12/16/08 Re: Q: how is plasma different? , I tried to play the you.tube link. I got great audio, however no video. I am currently using Kubuntu Hardy with KDE3.5.10. What is necessary to make a you.tube video to play? TIA Steven From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 16 13:33:38 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:33:38 -0400 Subject: Email goes to Outbox References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812151534.22248.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <200812151313.16471.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200812152057.12691.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4482001.jtgiPFGDvA@cedar.serverforest.com> nepal wrote: > On Monday 15 December 2008 18:13:16 Bruce Marshall wrote: >> >> So why didn't you set the default to something proper? > > I don't understand your question, what do you mean by "proper". > Originally I set the default as my main ??@mypostoffice.co.uk smtp > account. However when I wished to use a googlemail account to send a > message, the transport protocol would still default to > @mypostoffice.... and the message would fail to get sent. I even > remember many occasions that I selected a googlemail transport > protocol, and hit re-send, yet the default @mypostoffice.co.uk > returned. This version of kde and kmail is the first encounter I have > had with transport protocols and these associated prpblems. All I did > in the past was enter each of the smtp accounts that I wanted to use, > and then select the appropriate email address to use them. I completely agree with Bruce - you are expecting your mail program to be able to guess about transports, instead of properly setting them. Create multiple "Identities". Assign a transport to each one. Set the identity your are sending as, either by setting "Identity" on a per- message basis (if the drop-down isn't visible, select it on the View menu), or by filtering messages into specific folders, and setting Identities per-folder. I believe the problem you've encountered manually setting the transport is expected - because you haven't changed your identity, either. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 16 15:08:29 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:08:29 -0400 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <2490040.mgWnZ0ViMs@cedar.serverforest.com> R C Mitchell wrote: > I like to see my essential information (time, date, moon phase (= > state of the tide), Clearly the person who wrote the plasmoid has _no_ concept of "essential information". The old moon phase applet had better contrast - even at a tiny size - so that you could actually see the phase, and when you moused over it (or maybe right clicked - I don't remember) would tell you "6 days to full moon" or "3 days after new moon" or something similar. The plasmoid practically always looks like a full moon to me, it can't be used on the kicker panel, and it never actually tells me when the real full moon is. The author should have been staked out on a beach this weekend around the normal high tide mark, to grasp the real relevance of a moon phase applet. > It's possible, of course, that I may learn to love KDE 4 and its > successors I think it's probable - once they actually provide the functionality we had in 3.5. It's the huge loss of functionality that has be almost permanently PO'd. > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by > reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to > accept the challenge? Not me :-) -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 16:11:06 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:11:06 +0200 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812161811.06104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> My take on it: They have written a new set of tools so that they could split data from graphics. By doing this they open the playing-field of devices and other O/S that can use Plasma. KDE 4 is one such use. I think we will see nice things like zooming interfaces in the near future -- that's where all your windows live on a vast field and you zoom out and drop down to a new area -- like google earth only with a desktop instead of a planet. I reckon the old KDE code was too tied to KDE alone. With the new libraries they free the code to have more uses. This is a good thing and will keep KDE and company alive for much longer. Of course, I could be totally wrong. \d From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 16:11:34 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:11:34 +0100 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161811.06104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <200812161811.06104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that rotating the whole screen 90 deg is very nice if you have a wide monitor that can also rotate. This lets you view printed pages in the shape of the paper. Also is it not true that kde 3 can't run on MS windows but KDE 4 can or will be able to? Not sure this is a good thing but it might let programs like Amarok run on MS. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 16 16:38:32 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:38:32 +0100 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > Simple question to which I can't find the answer: how do I download the > source for a package (preferably using synaptic; I have "source code" > checked in the repository list, but I can't find anything that tells me > what to do in order to actually download source). I have no idea how to do it with synaptic but in a terminal it would be a command like this: apt-get source packagename Nils From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 16 17:15:28 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:15:28 +0100 Subject: Video Player Problems In-Reply-To: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > After Reading Douglas Knapp's comment on 12/16/08 Re: Q: how is plasma > different? , I tried to play the you.tube link. I got great audio, however > no video. I am currently using Kubuntu Hardy with KDE3.5.10. What is > necessary to make a you.tube video to play? TIA > > Steven > Hi Steven, first you should nesure that your flash-plugin is installed. So close any Browser and then, ex. on a console: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Afterwars, your firefox should display the youtube video just fine. Should your firefox have an extension installed like "noscript" (which is meant to prevent script execution), you need to disable this extension for youtube and related websites. That's about it for a start. Kind regards Eberhard From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 16 17:15:13 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:15:13 -0500 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > I have no idea how to do it with synaptic but in a terminal it would be a > command like this: Hi Nils, I am probably going to make a fool out of myself again, but if I understand your question, and I will treat it as though I asked it, after selecting it by placing a check mark in the box, click on 'Apply' at the top of the screen, and everything is done automatically. Steven From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 17:31:36 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:31:36 -0700 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4947E5F8.6020500@gmail.com> Steven Vollom said the following at 12/16/2008 10:15 AM : >> I have no idea how to do it with synaptic but in a terminal it would be a >> command like this: > > Hi Nils, > > I am probably going to make a fool out of myself again, but if I understand > your question, and I will treat it as though I asked it, after selecting it > by placing a check mark in the box, click on 'Apply' at the top of the > screen, and everything is done automatically. What do you mean by "everything"? What *precisely* does one need to do (after checking the box and reloading the repositories) in order to download the source for a package. (I've done it now in apt-get -- thanks, Nils -- but I'd still rather use synaptic in future.) Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 16 18:33:34 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Subject: Video Player Problems In-Reply-To: References: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812161333.34449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:15:28 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: > sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Dear Eberhard, I thought I already had flash. It said I already have the latest version of flash. Is your noscript question relating to Java script. I don't have a noscript option, but Java is enabled. The video I wanted to watch was about Plasma desktop. Voice, no video. Any other ideas? Steven From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 16 18:33:58 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:33:58 -0400 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <200812161811.06104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1991044.Pkol6ayuT2@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: > I think that rotating the whole screen 90 deg is very nice if you have > a wide monitor that can also rotate. This lets you view printed pages > in the shape of the paper. xrandr let me do that before KDE4. The "whole" screen is just a capability of the X video driver and the graphics card. Plasmoids, however, let you rotate little snippets of the screen. -- derek From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 16 19:07:30 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:07:30 +0100 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812162007.30056.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > I have no idea how to do it with synaptic but in a terminal it would > > be a command like this: > > I am probably going to make a fool out of myself again, but if I > understand your question, and I will treat it as though I asked it, > after selecting it by placing a check mark in the box, click on 'Apply' > at the top of the screen, and everything is done automatically. Fool? Not really. But you missed the point probably because you never had the need to use the source code of a package. What you describe is how to download and install the binary package, not the source code. Anyway, thanks for trying to help. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 16 19:31:47 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:31:47 -0500 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: <200812162007.30056.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812162007.30056.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812161431.47183.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I get the feeling that when I get to some point in my learning, I will probably do everything from the terminal, including opening GUIs. I knew I was probably entering in error. I do crave to contribute something, one of these days. Steven From jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org Tue Dec 16 19:53:55 2008 From: jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:53:55 +0100 Subject: source? References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4947E5F8.6020500@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > (I've done it now in apt-get -- thanks, Nils -- but I'd still rather use > synaptic in future.) Downloading sources is really nothing which new users do very often. Therefore I doubt that the authors of synaptic will include it in future. But you can get grab the sources of synaptic and provide a patch ;-) Good luck! Jan From francisco.borges at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 20:15:19 2008 From: francisco.borges at gmail.com (Francisco Borges) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:15:19 +0100 Subject: dual monitor setup with KDE 4.2(beta1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Francisco Borges wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I just installed Kubuntu in a new computer with dual monitors. >> Everything looks fine except that KDE seems to use the "secondary" >> display as primary, as in all new panels, notifications etc all appear >> on the secondary monitor and not on the primary. >> >> There used to be a way to actually change that with KDE 3.5.X; is that >> already possible with KDE 4.2? >> >> Anyone knows of a way to deal with it? >> >> Kind regards, >> -- >> Francisco >> > Should you happen to be a happy Nvidia User, you can try with > nvidia-settings I happen to be a ATI User (not that I had any choice in it, as it is my work computer). Or perhaps I should say an "annoyed ATI user". As they config tool doesn't even allow me to rotate one of the screens. I have used nvidia config tools, and I can attest that they are much better than ATI's. In any case, I (partially) solved the problem today when I discovered how to move the KDE4 panels. Notifications still go to the wrong screen, but I don't rely much on those. Kind regards, -- Francisco From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue Dec 16 20:55:14 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:14 +0100 Subject: Video Player Problems In-Reply-To: <200812161333.34449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812161333.34449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:15:28 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree > > Dear Eberhard, > > I thought I already had flash. It said I already have the latest version of > flash. > > Is your noscript question relating to Java script. I don't have a noscript > option, but Java is enabled. > > The video I wanted to watch was about Plasma desktop. Voice, no video. > > Any other ideas? > > Steven > Well, not really. okay: Are you using the Sun Java Runtime JRE ? When it does not work with Firefox, what happens if you look at the youtube video with konqueror or opera? If anything fails, there is a workaround, although it is not a solution for your problem: You might install the "downloadhelper" application for firefox. Downloadhelper can download youtube videos (and more) to your local harddisk. From there you can use ex. vlc to look at both, Sound AND Video. Kind regards Eberhard From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Tue Dec 16 21:32:05 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:32:05 +0000 Subject: Email goes to Outbox In-Reply-To: <4482001.jtgiPFGDvA@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812121524.28117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812152057.12691.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4482001.jtgiPFGDvA@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812162132.05573.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 13:33:38 Derek Broughton wrote: > I completely agree with Bruce - you are expecting your mail program > to be able to guess about transports, instead of properly setting > them. > > Create multiple "Identities".  Assign a transport to each one.  Set > the identity your are sending as, either by setting "Identity" on a > per- message basis (if the drop-down isn't visible, select it on > the View menu), or by filtering messages into specific folders, and > setting Identities per-folder. > > I believe the problem you've encountered manually setting the > transport is expected - because you haven't changed your identity, > either. -- > derek Actually Derek, I did do all of that and many times over I might add and kmail simply kept f*****g up on the transport protocol that IT chose, not me! I manually chose the correct protocol, hit send and the send failed, I would check the pending mail and the protocol had defaulted to something not my choice. I gave up to the point of installing 7.10 on a separate drive and dumping 8.04 I had gotten so p****d off, but then had a flash of inspiration of using googlemail as the only transport protocol. I probably tried every possible combination of setting up kmail and it would not work, even when I chose specific transport protocols for each identity (just as you suggest yes, I did that too) and kmail still would not send because it (kmail) kept choosing the wrong transport protocol. Now I remember just how pissed off I got with that... chunter, chunter... nepal. From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 22:06:35 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:06:35 -0700 Subject: source? In-Reply-To: References: <4947C017.8010006@gmail.com> <200812161738.32354.kassube@gmx.net> <200812161215.14101.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4947E5F8.6020500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4948266B.6030402@gmail.com> Jan Torben Heuer said the following at 12/16/2008 12:53 PM : > D. R. Evans wrote: > >> (I've done it now in apt-get -- thanks, Nils -- but I'd still rather use >> synaptic in future.) > > Downloading sources is really nothing which new users do very often. Therefore I doubt that the authors of synaptic will include it in future. One wonders why there's a specific checkbox labelled "source code" in synaptic if it doesn't somehow enable one to download source code. Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 22:54:20 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:54:20 -0700 Subject: Limit to 4 Languages on KDE Kyeboard Layout Switcher? In-Reply-To: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4948319C.1070601@gmail.com> Glenn R Williams said the following at 12/14/2008 12:54 PM : > Is there an absolute limit on 4 Languages one can specify for the KDE > Keyboard Layout Switcher? I seems not to take any more than four selections > during setup (system-seetings -> Regional & Language --> Keyboard Layout). Known bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174753 Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gloonie at earthlink.net Tue Dec 16 23:12:15 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:12:15 -0500 Subject: Limit to 4 Languages on KDE Kyeboard Layout Switcher? In-Reply-To: <4948319C.1070601@gmail.com> References: <200812141454.02316.gloonie@earthlink.net> <4948319C.1070601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812161812.15322.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:54:20 D. R. Evans wrote: > Glenn R Williams said the following at 12/14/2008 12:54 PM : > > Is there an absolute limit on 4 Languages one can specify for the KDE > > Keyboard Layout Switcher? I seems not to take any more than four > > selections during setup (system-seetings -> Regional & Language --> > > Keyboard Layout). > > Known bug: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174753 > > Doc Thanks Doc, Didn't see it, but that's it indeed! Glenn From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 03:54:12 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:54:12 -0500 Subject: config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer Message-ID: <1229486053.23490.69.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Has anyone encountered this one doing ./configure?? config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer Thanks in advance for any assist. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 03:56:24 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:56:24 -0500 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <1229486185.23490.71.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 10:38 +0000, R C Mitchell wrote: > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to accept > the challenge? I am enough to suggest sticking with what works! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 17 08:20:02 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:20:02 +0100 Subject: Video Player Problems In-Reply-To: References: <200812161026.47963.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812161333.34449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:15:28 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree >> Dear Eberhard, >> >> I thought I already had flash. It said I already have the latest version of >> flash. >> >> Is your noscript question relating to Java script. I don't have a noscript >> option, but Java is enabled. >> >> The video I wanted to watch was about Plasma desktop. Voice, no video. >> >> Any other ideas? >> >> Steven >> > Well, not really. > > okay: > Are you using the Sun Java Runtime JRE ? > More precisely: If you are NOT using it, install SUN JRE and then try, if it works with this. Note: You need to make your Browsers aware of which Java you are using. Although there are nice options to work simultaneously with multiple java versions (ex. /etc/alternatives/java). I found that selecting SUN JRE to install and also deleting anythinng else Java related makes the system use SUN JRE. ;-) Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed Dec 17 08:23:25 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:23:25 +0100 Subject: config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer In-Reply-To: <1229486053.23490.69.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1229486053.23490.69.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore wrote: > Has anyone encountered this one doing ./configure?? > config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer > > Thanks in advance for any assist. Ric > > do you happen to know what package you are trying to ./configure ? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 09:12:23 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:12:23 +0200 Subject: korganizer / korgac daemon crashes Message-ID: <4948C277.8040406@gmail.com> Suddenly after a reboot Kontact will not open as korganizer and korgac (the korganizer daemon) crashes. I can run Kmail and the others but not the "full monty". Anyone have an idea what might cause this (corrupt files etc) and where I can look? Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 09:36:38 2008 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:36:38 +0200 Subject: korganizer / korgac daemon crashes - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <4948C277.8040406@gmail.com> References: <4948C277.8040406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4948C826.3060803@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Suddenly after a reboot Kontact will not open as korganizer and korgac > (the korganizer daemon) crashes. I can run Kmail and the others but not > the "full monty". > > Anyone have an idea what might cause this (corrupt files etc) and where > I can look? > found in ubuntuforums.org: "Move the file home/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics to another folder. Open kontact (it won't crash with this folder removed). Add back the file to its original folder." when I did that korganizer immediately crashed. I edited the file and found the last entry I had made. Removed it, restarted Kontact and all is well. Now why it happened is another story... From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 11:24:26 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:24:26 +1000 Subject: SOLVED : Kmail starting outside Kontact bug Message-ID: <200812172124.30721.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> I seem to recall this was bugging a few people - Kmail auto starting external of kontact on login. Found the solution here : http://agateau.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/krunner-is-more-powerful-than-it- looks/ The basic problem is krunner! By default the contacts plugin for krunner is activated, which requires a running kmail *if* you are using the IMAP resources in KMail. If you disable contacts search in krunner the problem goes away. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From wa4geg at hamradiobug.com Wed Dec 17 12:26:26 2008 From: wa4geg at hamradiobug.com (Byron Campbell) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:26:26 -0500 Subject: KMail, "Smart Quoting" stopped working Message-ID: <200812170726.26913.wa4geg@hamradiobug.com> Kmail 1.10.3, in KDE 4.1.3 (Kubuntu 8.10) Kmail's "smart quoting" when replying to mail stopped functioning. Now, when replaying to mail, the composer window opens as a blank page as if smart quoting is turned off, which it isn't. Double checking the settings in: KMail > Settings > Configure Kmail > Composer > General > Use Smart Quoting Use Smart Quoting remains checked. I tried un-checking, Applying, Ok'ing, then going back in and checking it again, and Applying, and Ok'ing etc. but no joy. Any ideas on how to get KMail's message quoting back to working? --> Maybe dump a config file somewhere and reentering all my KMail account settings from scratch? Byron From gloonie at earthlink.net Wed Dec 17 13:30:24 2008 From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:30:24 -0500 Subject: KMail, "Smart Quoting" stopped working In-Reply-To: <200812170726.26913.wa4geg@hamradiobug.com> References: <200812170726.26913.wa4geg@hamradiobug.com> Message-ID: <200812170830.24957.gloonie@earthlink.net> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 07:26:26 Byron Campbell wrote: > Kmail 1.10.3, in KDE 4.1.3 (Kubuntu 8.10) > > Kmail's "smart quoting" when replying to mail stopped functioning. > Now, when replaying to mail, the composer window opens as a blank > page as if smart quoting is turned off, which it isn't. > > Double checking the settings in: > > KMail > Settings > Configure Kmail > Composer > General > Use Smart > Quoting > > Use Smart Quoting remains checked. I tried un-checking, Applying, > Ok'ing, then going back in and checking it again, and Applying, and > Ok'ing etc. but no joy. > > Any ideas on how to get KMail's message quoting back to working? --> > Maybe dump a config file somewhere and reentering all my KMail account > settings from scratch? > > Byron Byron, I had a similar thing when I added a new Identity. I instructed Kmail to copy an existing identity. But somehow it didn't copy the templates over. This is what instructs kmail HOW to build a response, forward etc. My solution was to go into my original identitity: kmail --> settings --> configure kmail --> Default Then I temporarily clicked on "Use Custom Templates under the Templates tab. Click on "Reply to Sender". You should see a template that looks like this: %REM="Default reply template"%- On %ODATEEN %OTIMELONGEN you wrote: %QUOTE %CURSOR or something similar. This is what actually tells kmail to quote. You can copy this (or my fragment above) into your Identity and tell kmail to use Custom templates. Just check that each table hase something other than "%BLANK". (You can also do this BEFORE actually copying anything :-) ) HTH Glenn From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 17 13:19:01 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:19:01 -0400 Subject: SOLVED : Kmail starting outside Kontact bug References: <200812172124.30721.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2197210.m8lGIneUu0@cedar.serverforest.com> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > I seem to recall this was bugging a few people - Kmail auto starting > external of kontact on login. I've had the opposite issue pretty much since the dawn of KDE3 - _if_ you're running kontact, you can't start kmail or any other component independently, as kontact just swallows them. -- derek From wa4geg at hamradiobug.com Wed Dec 17 13:54:31 2008 From: wa4geg at hamradiobug.com (Byron Campbell) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:54:31 -0500 Subject: KMail, "Smart Quoting" stopped working In-Reply-To: <200812170830.24957.gloonie@earthlink.net> References: <200812170726.26913.wa4geg@hamradiobug.com> <200812170830.24957.gloonie@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200812170854.31264.wa4geg@hamradiobug.com> Many thanks Glenn! That did the trick. BTW, I too was tweaking a second account (just the log-in settings) when Smart Quoting stopped. Regards, Byron - WA4GEG On Wednesday 17 December 2008 08:30:24 am Glenn R Williams wrote: > On Wednesday 17 December 2008 07:26:26 Byron Campbell wrote: > > Kmail 1.10.3, in KDE 4.1.3 (Kubuntu 8.10) > > > > Kmail's "smart quoting" when replying to mail stopped > > functioning. Now, when replaying to mail, the composer window > > opens as a blank page as if smart quoting is turned off, which it > > isn't. > > > > Double checking the settings in: > > > > KMail > Settings > Configure Kmail > Composer > General > Use > > Smart Quoting > > > > Use Smart Quoting remains checked. I tried un-checking, Applying, > > Ok'ing, then going back in and checking it again, and Applying, > > and Ok'ing etc. but no joy. > > > > Any ideas on how to get KMail's message quoting back to working? > > --> Maybe dump a config file somewhere and reentering all my > > KMail account settings from scratch? > > > > Byron > > Byron, > > I had a similar thing when I added a new Identity. I instructed > Kmail to copy an existing identity. But somehow it didn't copy the > templates over. This is what instructs kmail HOW to build a > response, forward etc. My solution was to go into my original > identitity: > > kmail --> settings --> configure kmail --> Default > > Then I temporarily clicked on "Use Custom Templates under the > Templates tab. Click on "Reply to Sender". You should see a > template that looks like this: > > %REM="Default reply template"%- > On %ODATEEN %OTIMELONGEN you wrote: > %QUOTE > %CURSOR > > or something similar. This is what actually tells kmail to quote. > You can copy this (or my fragment above) into your Identity and > tell kmail to use Custom templates. Just check that each table hase > something other than "%BLANK". (You can also do this BEFORE > actually copying anything :-) ) > > HTH > > > Glenn From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Wed Dec 17 15:37:20 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:37:20 +0100 Subject: SOLVED : Kmail starting outside Kontact bug In-Reply-To: <200812172124.30721.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812172124.30721.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812171637.20853.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Wednesday 17 December 2008 12:24:26 schreef Lindsay Mathieson: > Found the solution here : >  http://agateau.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/krunner-is-more-powerful-than-it- > looks/ > > The basic problem is krunner! By default the contacts plugin for krunner is > activated, which requires a running kmail *if* you are using the IMAP > resources in KMail. > > If you disable contacts search in krunner  the problem goes away. The url is not working. How do you disable krunner. I like to only use kmail, and not the rest of kontakt. Still avery boot the Korganiser reminderdeamon is loaded. -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From gkourtev at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 18:01:14 2008 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:01:14 +0200 Subject: iPod/iPhone sync Message-ID: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> Does anyone have ideas on how iPods/iPhones can be synchronized under Kubuntu? It seems that iTunes is available only for Mac and Windows... Thanks. gk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Wed Dec 17 18:44:10 2008 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:44:10 +0200 Subject: iPod/iPhone sync In-Reply-To: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Does anyone have ideas on how iPods/iPhones can be synchronized under > Kubuntu? It seems that iTunes is available only for Mac and Windows... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone Hope this helps. Jussi > > Thanks. > > gk > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 22:00:28 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:00:28 +1000 Subject: SOLVED : Kmail starting outside Kontact bug In-Reply-To: <200812171637.20853.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> References: <200812172124.30721.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200812171637.20853.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: <200812180800.32291.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:37:20 am Peter Klaassen wrote: > Op Wednesday 17 December 2008 12:24:26 schreef Lindsay Mathieson: > > Found the solution here : > >  http://agateau.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/krunner-is-more-powerful-than-it > >- looks/ > > > > The basic problem is krunner! By default the contacts plugin for krunner > > is activated, which requires a running kmail *if* you are using the IMAP > > resources in KMail. > > > > If you disable contacts search in krunner  the problem goes away. > > The url is not working. Because it was wrapped by email - but that's probably not the solution to to your problem. > How do you disable krunner. > I like to only use kmail, and not the rest of kontakt. > Still avery boot the Korganiser reminderdeamon is loaded. cd /usr/share/autostart sudo mv korgac.desktop korgac.desktop.bak Should do the trick > > -- > Peter > Registered Linux user # 458207 -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Wed Dec 17 22:58:38 2008 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph DeWitt) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:58:38 -0500 Subject: Grub help needed Message-ID: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Hi all: I have just done a dual boot install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Compaq Presisario (sp). The install went without problem. The problem is that it will not boot into Windows. I went thru a trouble shooting guide and it still will not boot into windows. Can someone help? Thanks -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Kubuntu 8.10 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.27-10-generic Current Linux uptime: 5:39, days user hours minutes. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 23:06:58 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:06:58 +0200 Subject: Grub help needed In-Reply-To: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <49498612.30202@gmail.com> Ralph DeWitt wrote: > Hi all: > I have just done a dual boot install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Compaq Presisario > (sp). The install went without problem. The problem is that it will not boot > into Windows. I went thru a trouble shooting guide and it still will not boot > into windows. Can someone help? Thanks can you please post the contents of ur /boot/grub/menu.lst file? not all the file, mind you, just the last parts of it, the automagic kernel list, and what comes after it. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 06:29:43 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:29:43 -0500 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? Message-ID: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Dear sirs: I haven't received any emails from the forum since yesterday, Tuesday, 12:08am. Did I get removed from the list? If I did, would you please tell me what I did that was wrong. The List is very important to me. I am finally, after 3 years of trying to learn, learning how to operate and use Kubuntu. If I have offended anyone, I am sincerely sorry. If I am doing something wrong, please tell me what to do for me to be acceptable. I love this forum. I will never do anything that hurts it. If I am hurting it, just tell me what not to do, I will comply. Maybe I am stupid and old, but I am sincere. Thank you. Steven Vollom, fine-artist retired From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 07:04:52 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:04:52 -0500 Subject: config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer In-Reply-To: References: <1229486053.23490.69.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <1229583892.6577.35.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 09:23 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Ric Moore wrote: > > Has anyone encountered this one doing ./configure?? > > config.status: WARNING: failed to create makefile emulation layer > > > > Thanks in advance for any assist. Ric > > > > > do you happen to know what package you are trying to ./configure ? Crystal Space, a 3D graphical development package. There is a Ubuntu set of packages that is really out of date and carried a disclaimer that one of the three dnload packages is an earlier version. After several hundred megs of dnload that set blows up. So, I'm using the current versioning version and doing the ./configure bit gives me that error. I've never seen that one before. Thanks for any considerations, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 18 07:44:47 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:44:47 +0100 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812180844.47715.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > I haven't received any emails from the forum since yesterday, Tuesday, > 12:08am. Did I get removed from the list? I don't think so - it went to the list without delay according to the headers. Maybe there is a problem with your provider or a spam filter? Nils From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 07:45:23 2008 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:45:23 +0200 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812180945.24184.gkourtev@gmail.com> I got your message. Apparently you are not removed. gk On Thursday 18 December 2008 08:29:43 Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear sirs: > > I haven't received any emails from the forum since yesterday, Tuesday, > 12:08am. Did I get removed from the list? If I did, would you please tell > me what I did that was wrong. The List is very important to me. I am > finally, after 3 years of trying to learn, learning how to operate and use > Kubuntu. If I have offended anyone, I am sincerely sorry. If I am doing > something wrong, please tell me what to do for me to be acceptable. I love > this forum. I will never do anything that hurts it. If I am hurting it, > just tell me what not to do, I will comply. > > Maybe I am stupid and old, but I am sincere. Thank you. > > Steven Vollom, fine-artist retired -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 18 07:47:02 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:47:02 +0100 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: <200812180844.47715.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812180844.47715.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> I haven't received any emails from the forum since yesterday, Tuesday, >> 12:08am. Did I get removed from the list? > > I don't think so - it went to the list without delay according to the > headers. Maybe there is a problem with your provider or a spam filter? > > > Nils > Maybe there wasn't a Mail on the list since yesterday. Except Steven's, Nils' and mine ;-)) kind regards Eberhard From pfrancq at ulb.ac.be Thu Dec 18 08:47:13 2008 From: pfrancq at ulb.ac.be (Pascal Francq) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:47:13 +0100 Subject: iPod/iPhone sync In-Reply-To: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812180947.17718.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> For the music, I use amarok to manage my iPods. On mercredi 17 décembre 2008, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Does anyone have ideas on how iPods/iPhones can be synchronized under > Kubuntu? It seems that iTunes is available only for Mac and Windows... > > Thanks. > gk -- Pascal Francq -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From info at alvin.be Thu Dec 18 10:11:42 2008 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:11:42 +0100 Subject: KNode warning about line length Message-ID: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> about KNode (version 0.99.01) Every time I want to post an article to a newsgroup, I get the following warning: > "Your article contains lines longer than 80 characters. > Do you want to re-edit the article or send it anyway?" The warning is correct, and I don't want to use more than 80 characters, but why do I have to check this myself? In KDE3, KNode didn't complain and managed the line length without user intervention. Isn't there an option to let the new KNode manage solve this? -- Alvin From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Thu Dec 18 11:01:26 2008 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:01:26 +0000 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812180844.47715.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <494A2D86.6090400@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> > Maybe there wasn't a Mail on the list since yesterday. Except Steven's, > Nils' and mine ;-)) Sorry no. The consistent stream continued just as before... If the OP hasn't been receiving mails then there must be some reason for it his end... Chris > > kind regards > Eberhard > > From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Thu Dec 18 11:06:14 2008 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:06:14 +0000 Subject: KNode warning about line length In-Reply-To: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <200812181106.15115.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 10:11:42 Alvin wrote: > The warning is correct, and I don't want to use more than 80 > characters, but why do I have to check this myself? In KDE3, KNode > didn't complain and managed the line length without user > intervention. Isn't there an option to let the new KNode manage > solve this? In KDE 3x there is settings/configure knode/posting news/Composer Tab/General. There is a checkbox to word wrap at column and a spin bar to set the column. nepal. From unclehonk at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 18 11:12:16 2008 From: unclehonk at yahoo.co.uk (Philip Wood) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:12:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: KNode warning about line length References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <150516.72747.qm@web25805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Is it possible to get Kubuntu to use the power of a GeForce 6950m 6S 512 MB GPU which is built into my Acer Aspire laptop? At the moment it is only running as a generic VESA chip at 800 * 600 which isn't much use. I have Kubuntu 8.04 (I think) installed from a PCPRO magazine distro. December issue I think. Although it seems to recognise the sound hardware it won't make any noise either, (Realtek high definition audio, according to the Vista Device Manager). Fi naly, I have a Huwaei USB 3G datacard from Vodafone. Kubuntu does see it but I presume it needs to be configured before Kubuntu can get on-line as it doesn't do anything yet, anyone know how? Thanks in anticipation. Phil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From unclehonk at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 18 11:17:14 2008 From: unclehonk at yahoo.co.uk (Philip Wood) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:17:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Oops! Sorry, subject of last was supposed to read Laptop Hardware Support Message-ID: <228358.74735.qm@web25804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 18 11:24:21 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:21 +0100 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: <494A2D86.6090400@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812180844.47715.kassube@gmx.net> <494A2D86.6090400@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Chris Jones wrote: >> Maybe there wasn't a Mail on the list since yesterday. Except Steven's, >> Nils' and mine ;-)) > > Sorry no. The consistent stream continued just as before... > > If the OP hasn't been receiving mails then there must be some reason for > it his end... > So this might be a larger problem, since I did not get anything from yesterday 11:58 PM to 7:29AM, this morning. And, honestly, I do not think there is reason to worry about it. And I am living on a different continent. ;-)) Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 18 11:49:32 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:49:32 +0100 Subject: Linux in the shop-windows? Message-ID: Hi, I need to install four TFT displays at a larger estat agents'. They will be controlled by a computer and will display estate for sale and a multitude of company comercials. It is intended to either have all displays show the same contents, different contents or contents "wandering" from one window to the next. Is there a Linux solution available? If not, it there a windows solution. Ok, I know, but if you need to get the job done.... Thanks for any help and kind regards Eberhard From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Thu Dec 18 12:01:41 2008 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph DeWitt) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:01:41 -0500 Subject: Grub help needed In-Reply-To: <49498612.30202@gmail.com> References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <49498612.30202@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812180701.41588.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 18:06:58 Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Ralph DeWitt wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have just done a dual boot install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Compaq > > Presisario (sp). The install went without problem. The problem is that it > > will not boot into Windows. I went thru a trouble shooting guide and it > > still will not boot into windows. Can someone help? Thanks > > can you please post the contents of ur /boot/grub/menu.lst file? > not all the file, mind you, just the last parts of it, the automagic > kernel list, and what comes after it. Willy: here is the portion of the file you requested. ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-9-generic uuid b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74-e9909366c9ea kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=UUID=b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74- e9909366c9ea ro quiet splash quiet title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-9-generic (recovery mode) uuid b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74-e9909366c9ea kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=UUID=b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74- e9909366c9ea ro single title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic uuid b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74-e9909366c9ea kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74- e9909366c9ea ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic quiet title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (recovery mode) uuid b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74-e9909366c9ea kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74- e9909366c9ea ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic title Ubuntu 8.10, memtest86+ uuid b72ba4f3-cab7-4afa-8b74-e9909366c9ea kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin quiet ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian # ones. title Other operating systems: root # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/sda1 title Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed OpenSUSE 11.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.27-10-generic Current Linux uptime: 17 days 1 hours minutes. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 13:52:56 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:52:56 -0500 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <494A2D86.6090400@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200812180852.56912.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > And, honestly, I do not think there is reason to worry about it. > > And I am living on a different continent. ;-)) Thanks my friend. I just have never gone that long without a post. Usually I am in there several times through that period of time. I just want to protect my participation, at all costs. I love this forum. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 16:11:24 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:11:24 -0500 Subject: Hardware failure may be isolated. Message-ID: <200812181111.25328.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Dear Eberhard, The Power Supply Tester arrived yesterday. The -5v test failed, so when I notified BFG Technologies they immediately issued an RMA. You should know an additional piece of information, because you may wish to purchase a Power Supply some time and want to know the character of the company you are purchasing from. They have a warranty condition that the purchaser must pay return shipping for items found defective. It is pretty normal with companies. Nonetheless, my circumstance is not the same as is for most people. I am on a fixed and very low income. I cannot afford almost anything I purchase, so absorbing expenses for others who are responsible for the making of a problem is more difficult for me. People who make a lot of money, would not even consider it inappropriate for a Manufacture to expect a consumer to pay return postage for a defective product. It is the way of the world. Nonetheless, when I reminded them that it was unfair for an abused customer to pay a penalty for their purchase, when satisfied customers are able to enjoy the use of their purchase without the added expense did not seem fair. After considering my contention, they agreed to send me a new unit with prepaid forms for returning the defective power supply. To me, that is character in this dog-eat-dog world, and I wanted my friends to know about it. Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, Steven Vollom, fine-artist retired From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 18 16:11:30 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:11:30 -0400 Subject: KNode warning about line length References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <5417035.XNfhPzgZX0@cedar.serverforest.com> Alvin wrote: > about KNode (version 0.99.01) > > Every time I want to post an article to a newsgroup, I get the > following warning: > >> "Your article contains lines longer than 80 characters. >> Do you want to re-edit the article or send it anyway?" > > The warning is correct, and I don't want to use more than 80 > characters, but why do I have to check this myself? Because it's broken (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167996), and while the code has been fixed and the bug is now marked "resolved", I doubt we'll be seeing it before the KDE4.2 release, and quite likely not until Jaunty Jerbil is released. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 18 16:21:52 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:21:52 -0400 Subject: KNode warning about line length References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> <200812181106.15115.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1519865.HINqiuqf0X@cedar.serverforest.com> nepal wrote: > On Thursday 18 December 2008 10:11:42 Alvin wrote: >> The warning is correct, and I don't want to use more than 80 >> characters, but why do I have to check this myself? In KDE3, KNode >> didn't complain and managed the line length without user >> intervention. Isn't there an option to let the new KNode manage >> solve this? > > In KDE 3x there is settings/configure knode/posting news/Composer > Tab/General. There is a checkbox to word wrap at column and a spin > bar to set the column. He knows that. This is kde 4.1, where knode is broken. -- derek From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 16:34:36 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:34:36 +0100 Subject: KNode warning about line length In-Reply-To: <5417035.XNfhPzgZX0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> <5417035.XNfhPzgZX0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812181734.37608.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 17:11:30 Derek Broughton wrote: > Because it's broken (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167996), and > while the code has been fixed and the bug is now marked "resolved", I > doubt we'll be seeing it before the KDE4.2 release, and quite likely not > until Jaunty Jerbil is released. I haven't had much chance to test it, but, yes, some bugs have been cured in KDE 4.2. -- lanzen From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Dec 18 16:21:10 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:21:10 -0400 Subject: KNode warning about line length References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> <150516.72747.qm@web25805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17342533.N5gVuPozrO@cedar.serverforest.com> Philip Wood wrote: > Is it possible to get Kubuntu to use the power of a GeForce 6950m 6S Please don't just reply to a message when you have a completely different question. This has nothing to do with Knode. -- derek From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 16:41:05 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:41:05 +0100 Subject: Oops! Sorry, subject of last was supposed to read Laptop Hardware Support In-Reply-To: <228358.74735.qm@web25804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <228358.74735.qm@web25804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200812181741.05240.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:17:14 Philip Wood wrote: Well, that's because you replied to a thread instead of starting a new one. Anyway, about GeForce, that's nvidia and you need to install nvidia drivers. Huwaei USB 3G: if you're on Intrepid just plug it in and configure it in knetwork manager. It's easier done than said. ;-) -- lanzen From art.alexion at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 19:40:38 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:40:38 -0500 Subject: iPod/iPhone sync In-Reply-To: <200812180947.17718.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> References: <200812172001.14908.gkourtev@gmail.com> <200812180947.17718.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <200812181440.44630.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 3:47:13 am Pascal Francq wrote: > For the music, I use amarok to manage my iPods. > > On mercredi 17 décembre 2008, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Does anyone have ideas on how iPods/iPhones can be synchronized under > > Kubuntu? It seems that iTunes is available only for Mac and Windows... Amarok is great — unless you have an iPhone or an iTouch. These are different animals from regular iPods. There are work-arounds using an ftp server on the iPhone and ssh, etc., but it is a real pita. iTunes 8 is required, and it won't run under wine or crossover. I am currently trying to do it with an XP appliance using kvm. I have it installed and can access my music library on the kubuntu host, but haven't tried connecting to the USB linked iTouch. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 19:42:31 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:42:31 -0500 Subject: Grub help needed In-Reply-To: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812181442.31456.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 5:58:38 pm Ralph DeWitt wrote: > Hi all: > I have just done a dual boot install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Compaq Presisario > (sp). The install went without problem. The problem is that it will not > boot into Windows. I went thru a trouble shooting guide and it still will > not boot into windows. Can someone help? Thanks One thing you have to do to make it work is install windows first. If you try to install windows after linux, it will cause grub problems. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 19:53:16 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:53:16 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812070756.22976.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812070756.22976.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Sunday 07 December 2008 7:56:22 am David McGlone wrote: > > For the last two Kubuntu versions flash and java has worked OK for me > > on my 64 bit processor. I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos onto kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency. Problem is, if you don't do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have problems. Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix that. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Thu Dec 18 19:57:21 2008 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph DeWitt) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:57:21 -0500 Subject: Grub help needed In-Reply-To: <200812181442.31456.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200812181442.31456.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812181457.21371.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 14:42:31 Art Alexion wrote: > On Wednesday 17 December 2008 5:58:38 pm Ralph DeWitt wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have just done a dual boot install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Compaq > > Presisario (sp). The install went without problem. The problem is that it > > will not boot into Windows. I went thru a trouble shooting guide and it > > still will not boot into windows. Can someone help? Thanks > > One thing you have to do to make it work is install windows first. If you > try to install windows after linux, it will cause grub problems. Art: Thanks for your help. Windows XP was installed prior to kunbuntu install. I defraged drive, then created /, swap, /home partitions from empty space about 40 gig or so for /home, and around 10 gigs for /. -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed OpenSUSE 11.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.27-10-generic Current Linux uptime: 8:10, days user hours minutes. From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Thu Dec 18 20:35:43 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:35:43 +0000 Subject: kwallet Message-ID: <200812182035.43383.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> I made the mistake of entering my user password into kwallet wrongly. This was for a prompt from kmail for my pop3 password which I don't have kmail store, preferring kwallet to remember all my kontact passwords. Now I'm prompted for my pop password whenever I first open kmail, yet kwallet still deals with the other kontact passwords (knode etc). How can I get back to kwallet opening for kmail? AJH From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Thu Dec 18 20:41:25 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:41:25 +0000 Subject: ssh Message-ID: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support. I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who is only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters. I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is there another program that's supported and just the same? AJH From jonorland at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 20:54:19 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:54:19 +0100 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: 2008/12/18 andrew heggie : > > I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to > give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support. > I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to > reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who is > only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters. > > I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in > from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is > there another program that's supported and just the same? > > AJH > openssh-server is the package you want to install. / Jonas From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 18 20:59:17 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:59:17 +0100 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812182159.17070.kassube@gmx.net> andrew heggie wrote: > I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log > in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the > repository, is there another program that's supported and just the > same? You are looking for the package "openssh-server". Nils From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Dec 18 21:00:49 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:00:49 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812181600.49440.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008, andrew heggie wrote: > I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to > give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support. > I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to > reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who > is only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters. > > I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in > from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is > there another program that's supported and just the same? > > AJH openssh is on hardy.... don't know what you are running. openssh-blacklist openssh-client openssh-server From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Thu Dec 18 21:03:21 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:03:21 +0000 Subject: ssh References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182159.17070.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > andrew heggie wrote: >> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log >> in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the >> repository, is there another program that's supported and just the >> same? > > You are looking for the package "openssh-server". > > > Nils Yes but it's not in any of the repositories I have (by default) in my sources list. AJH From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Dec 18 21:14:37 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:14:37 -0500 Subject: Grub help needed In-Reply-To: <200812180701.41588.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <49498612.30202@gmail.com> <200812180701.41588.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812181614.37633.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008, Ralph DeWitt wrote: > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS > # on /dev/sda1 > title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition > root            (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader     +1 Can you verify that Windows is on the first partition of the first HD? From jonorland at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 21:16:08 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:16:08 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812070756.22976.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/18 Art Alexion : > I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos onto > kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency. Problem is, if you don't > do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have problems. > > Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix that. > Well it don't really have a dependency on Gnome. If you install the firefox meta package it _suggest_ firefox-3.0-gnome-support and if you install that it pulls in a lot of Gnome stuff like libgnomevfs and libgconf. I don't know how it was before but now on Intrepid Gnome it's not a dependency. / Jonas From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 18 22:20:14 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:20:14 +0100 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182159.17070.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> andrew heggie wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > andrew heggie wrote: > >> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to > >> log in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the > >> repository, is there another program that's supported and just the > >> same? > > > > You are looking for the package "openssh-server". > > Yes but it's not in any of the repositories I have (by default) in my > sources list. Strange - it is in main. Can you post your "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Nils From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Thu Dec 18 22:55:40 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:55:40 +0000 Subject: ssh References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182159.17070.kassube@gmx.net> <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > > Strange - it is in main. Can you post your "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Yes, please see below, I guess it's the "restricted" bit that's wrong? Andrew Heggie # # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080702.1)]/ hardy main restricted # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080702.1)]/ hardy main restricted # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu ## security team. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu ## users. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Dec 18 23:07:38 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:07:38 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812070756.22976.d.mcglone@att.net> <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812181807.39078.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 18 December 2008 2:53:16 pm Art Alexion wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 7:56:22 am David McGlone wrote: > > > For the last two Kubuntu versions flash and java has worked OK for me > > > on my 64 bit processor. I didn't write the above. LOL response was to the wrong person. > > I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos onto > kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency. Problem is, if you > don't do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have problems. > > Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix that. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Dec 19 05:26:13 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:26:13 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182159.17070.kassube@gmx.net> <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <494B3075.7080901@gatech.edu> andrew heggie wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Strange - it is in main. Can you post your "/etc/apt/sources.list"? > > Yes, please see below, I guess it's the "restricted" bit that's wrong? No. Restricted is an /additional/ repo section. It isn't needed here, but it won't cause any problem either. Your sources.list looks fine. The file is at http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/ and should be installable normally: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server Matt Flaschen From kassube at gmx.net Fri Dec 19 05:54:39 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:54:39 +0100 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812190654.39069.kassube@gmx.net> andrew heggie wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Strange - it is in main. Can you post your "/etc/apt/sources.list"? > > Yes, please see below, I guess it's the "restricted" bit that's wrong? [...] > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted No, the restricted part is OK. This is how it looks here: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main universe restricted multiverse Each word after hardy is the repository name and there may be several in one line. Did you use the "sudo apt-get update" command or reload in synaptic? Nils From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Fri Dec 19 09:11:00 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:11:00 +0000 Subject: ssh References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> <200812190654.39069.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > Did you use the "sudo apt-get update" command or reload in > synaptic? No I used adept as per standard install of hardy. I thought using this gui made removal of installed programs easier. I'm now installing from the commandline as Matthew directed and it seems to be going alright. Andrew Heggie From wa4geg at netscape.net Fri Dec 19 10:12:37 2008 From: wa4geg at netscape.net (Byron Campbell) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:12:37 -0500 Subject: Skanlite crashes every time with SIGSEGV Message-ID: <8CB2FD973F54E53-1250-17FE@mblk-d23.sysops.aol.com> Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.13 Machine AMD64 uname -a 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux Skanlite crashes with SIGSEGV every time when initializing either a preview scan and regular scan (HP 5370C scanner via USB.) Anyone having similar difficulty? Any fix? Byron KDE Crash Handler output here: Application: Skanlite (skanlite), signal SIGSEGV (no debugging symbols found) (snipped_a_lot_of_the_same) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x7f947109c6f0 (LWP 6986)] (no debugging symbols found) (snipped_a_lot_of_the_same) (no debugging symbols found) [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f946f045795 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #6 0x00007f946f04589c in QImage::operator= () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #7 0x00007f946f942aa9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #8 0x00007f946f942b89 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #9 0x00007f946f94c622 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #10 0x00007f946f955140 in KSaneIface::KSaneWidget::scanPreview () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #11 0x00007f946f955b00 in KSaneIface::KSaneWidget::qt_metacall () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #12 0x00007f947018d134 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #13 0x00007f946f52e787 in QAbstractButton::clicked () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #14 0x00007f946f2b28db in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #15 0x00007f946f2b44a2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #16 0x00007f946f2b46f5 in QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #17 0x00007f946effa329 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #18 0x00007f946efa7c3d in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #19 0x00007f946efb022a in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #20 0x00007f9470ad4fcb in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #21 0x00007f9470178d61 in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #22 0x00007f946efaf5c8 in QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #23 0x00007f946f013be9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #24 0x00007f946f012607 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #25 0x00007f946f03a2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #26 0x00007f946c0bad3b in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #27 0x00007f946c0be50d in ?? 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URL: From wa4geg at netscape.net Fri Dec 19 10:27:02 2008 From: wa4geg at netscape.net (Byron Campbell) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:27:02 -0500 Subject: Skanlite crashes every time with SIGSEGV Message-ID: <8CB2FDB7777C085-1250-181E@mblk-d23.sysops.aol.com> Resending as plain text to clean up message formatting ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.13 Machine AMD64 uname -a 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux Skanlite crashes with SIGSEGV every time when initializing either a preview scan and regular scan (HP 5370C scanner via USB.) Anyone having similar difficulty? Any fix? Byron KDE Crash Handler output here: Application: Skanlite (skanlite), signal SIGSEGV (no debugging symbols found) (snipped_a_lot_of_the_same) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x7f947109c6f0 (LWP 6986)] (no debugging symbols found) (snipped_a_lot_of_the_same) (no debugging symbols found) [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f946f045795 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #6 0x00007f946f04589c in QImage::operator= () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #7 0x00007f946f942aa9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #8 0x00007f946f942b89 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #9 0x00007f946f94c622 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #10 0x00007f946f955140 in KSaneIface::KSaneWidget::scanPreview () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #11 0x00007f946f955b00 in KSaneIface::KSaneWidget::qt_metacall () from /usr/lib/libksane.so.0 #12 0x00007f947018d134 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #13 0x00007f946f52e787 in QAbstractButton::clicked () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #14 0x00007f946f2b28db in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #15 0x00007f946f2b44a2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #16 0x00007f946f2b46f5 in QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #17 0x00007f946effa329 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #18 0x00007f946efa7c3d in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #19 0x00007f946efb022a in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #20 0x00007f9470ad4fcb in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #21 0x00007f9470178d61 in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #22 0x00007f946efaf5c8 in QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #23 0x00007f946f013be9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #24 0x00007f946f012607 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #25 0x00007f946f03a2c4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #26 0x00007f946c0bad3b in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #27 0x00007f946c0be50d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #28 0x00007f946c0be6cb in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #29 0x00007f94701a115f in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #30 0x00007f946f039a6f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #31 0x00007f9470177682 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #32 0x00007f947017780d in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #33 0x00007f9470179cbd in QCoreApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #34 0x00000000004072be in _start () #0 0x00007f946e8065f0 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6 From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Dec 19 10:37:00 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:37:00 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812182320.15003.kassube@gmx.net> <200812190654.39069.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <494B794C.1070301@gatech.edu> andrew heggie wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Did you use the "sudo apt-get update" command or reload in >> synaptic? > > No I used adept as per standard install of hardy. I thought using this gui > made removal of installed programs easier. > > I'm now installing from the commandline as Matthew directed and it seems to > be going alright. Great, but Adept should have worked too... The equivalent would be click "Fetch updates", then when that's done, right click the package, and click install, then finally Apply Changes. Not sure why openssh-server didn't show up for you. Best, Matt Flaschen From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 14:44:00 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:44:00 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008 4:16:08 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/18 Art Alexion : > > I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos > > onto kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency.  Problem is, if > > you don't do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have > > problems. > > > > Gnome should not be a firefox dependency.  I wish someone would fix that. > > Well it don't really have a dependency on Gnome. If you install the > firefox meta package it _suggest_ firefox-3.0-gnome-support and if you > install that it pulls in a lot of Gnome stuff like libgnomevfs and > libgconf. I don't know how it was before but now on Intrepid Gnome > it's not a dependency. Really? art at splendid:~$ sudo aptitude install firefox [sudo] password for art: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: apturl{a} docbook-xml{a} firefox firefox-3.0{a} firefox-3.0-branding{a} gamin{a} gconf2{a} gconf2-common{a} gksu{a} gnome-app-install{a} gnome-icon-theme{a} gnome-keyring{a} gnome-mime-data{a} gnome-mount{a} libavahi-glib1{a} libbonobo2-0{a} libbonobo2-common{a} libbonoboui2-0{a} libbonoboui2-common{a} libcairo-perl{a} libgamin0{a} libgconf2-4{a} libgksu2-0{a} libglade2-0{a} libglib-perl{a} libgnome-keyring0{a} libgnome2-0{a} libgnome2-canvas-perl{a} libgnome2-common{a} libgnome2-perl{a} libgnome2-vfs-perl{a} libgnomecanvas2-0{a} libgnomecanvas2-common{a} libgnomeui-0{a} libgnomeui-common{a} libgnomevfs2-0{a} libgnomevfs2-common{a} libgnomevfs2-extra{a} libgp11-0{a} libgtk2-perl{a} libgtkhtml2-0{a} libgtop2-7{a} libgtop2-common{a} libidl0{a} liblaunchpad-integration1{a} libnotify1{a} liborbit2{a} libpam-gnome-keyring{a} libpolkit-gnome0{a} librsvg2-common{a} libscrollkeeper0{a} libsexy2{a} libstartup-notification0{a} libvte-common{a} libvte9{a} libwnck-common{a} libwnck22{a} libxres1{a} notification-daemon{a} policykit-gnome{a} python-cairo{a} python-gconf{a} python-glade2{a} python-gst0.10{a} python-gtk2{a} python-gtkhtml2{a} python-launchpad-integration{a} python-numeric{a} python-pyorbit{a} python-sexy{a} python-vte{a} scrollkeeper{a} sgml-data{a} software-properties-gtk{a} synaptic{a} ubufox{a} xulrunner-1.9{a} -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 15:03:19 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:03:19 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812160434p4747f98fqe5f6d88c83916add@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812160434p4747f98fqe5f6d88c83916add@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 7:34:02 am Art Alexion wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > > Eberhard Roloff wrote: > >> definitely. Since I am on ext3, ntfs problems are a thing of the past. > >> > >>> I was thinking I'd create a really small fat32 partion and put the ext3 > >>> driver for windows there so that I could install it if I ever need it > >>> on a windows system. > >> > >> smart idea. Thanks much! > > > > Hi, > > > > it just came to my mind. > > > > You most probhably need to have Administrator Privileges to install the > > Ext3 filesystem driver on windows. > > > > That means, that you cannot expect this to work with any windows machine > > that you see out there. > > > > However, 95% of windows machines where the user routinely works as an > > administrator, might be ok for a start. ;-)) > > Good point, Eberhard. I expect I will be able to gain administrator > privileges when I need to as it will usually involve a machine I am > troubleshooting or repairing. > > By the way, it happened again after a reboot with the drive plugged in. > > Plugged it into gnome laptop and it mounted fine. This is the same > version of k/ubuntu. And it it isn't the individual machine. At home > I have a kubuntu 8.04 desktop and a laptop with ubuntu (gnome) 8.04. > Automounts on the laptop, and won't even create an unmounted device on > the desktop. At work, it is the same thing. Ignored by kubuntu 8.04 > desktop, and automounts on Ubuntu 8.10 desktop and winxp desktop. > > Why is kubuntu or kde having a problem with this drive that other > systems do not have? OK. The problem seems to be with Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10, and not 4.1. The drive mounts fine on Kubuntu 8.10. The problem exists on three Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10 machines, while everything works fine on a KDE 4.1 machine and an Ubuntu 8.10 Gnome machine and an 8.04 Gnome machine. It also work in WinXP. The only Kubuntu 8.10 machine I tested it on is 64-bit, if that makes a difference. Thinking it was a problem with ntfs-3g or something, I reformatted the drive as ext3. It made absolutely no difference. I want to report this as a bug, but have no idea what package to report against. Any ideas? This is a real PITA because the purpose of the drive depends on it working with XP and Kubuntu 8.04. 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URL: From info at alvin.be Fri Dec 19 15:24:39 2008 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:24:39 +0100 Subject: KNode warning about line length In-Reply-To: <200812181734.37608.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200812181111.42690.info@alvin.be> <5417035.XNfhPzgZX0@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812181734.37608.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812191624.40082.info@alvin.be> On Thursday 18 December 2008 17:34:36 lanzen wrote: > On Thursday 18 December 2008 17:11:30 Derek Broughton wrote: > > Because it's broken (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167996), and > > while the code has been fixed and the bug is now marked "resolved", I > > doubt we'll be seeing it before the KDE4.2 release, and quite likely not > > until Jaunty Jerbil is released. > > I haven't had much chance to test it, but, yes, some bugs have been cured > in KDE 4.2. I just tested this. The patch isn't yet in 4.2. Anyway, thanks for the information. Now I know the fix will reach my desktop eventually. -- Alvin From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 19 16:03:02 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:03:02 -0600 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Thursday 18 December 2008 4:16:08 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> 2008/12/18 Art Alexion : >> >>> I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos >>> onto kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency. Problem is, if >>> you don't do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have >>> problems. >>> >>> Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix that. >>> >> Well it don't really have a dependency on Gnome. If you install the >> firefox meta package it _suggest_ firefox-3.0-gnome-support and if you >> install that it pulls in a lot of Gnome stuff like libgnomevfs and >> libgconf. I don't know how it was before but now on Intrepid Gnome >> it's not a dependency. >> > > > Really? > > > art at splendid:~$ sudo aptitude install firefox > [sudo] password for art: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Reading extended state information > Initializing package states... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > apturl{a} docbook-xml{a} firefox firefox-3.0{a} firefox-3.0-branding{a} > gamin{a} gconf2{a} gconf2-common{a} gksu{a} gnome-app-install{a} > gnome-icon-theme{a} gnome-keyring{a} gnome-mime-data{a} gnome-mount{a} > Up front, I don't care for the Gnome desktop. I prefer KDE [ DUH! I guess that's why I'm on the Kubuntu list ]. On the other hand there are a few aps that are gnome that I prefer over the KDE counterpart. One that I use frequently is "gftp". I guess I just don't understand. What is all the fuss over having a few gnomish bits installed? If that's how you want to run your computer that's fine. Choices is part of what Linux is all about. I'm just curious is all. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 19 16:31:10 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:31:10 -0600 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812160434p4747f98fqe5f6d88c83916add@mail.gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494BCC4E.6030608@swbell.net> Art Alexion wrote: > Ok, The problem seems to be with Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10, and not 4.1. The drive mounts fine on Kubuntu 8.10. The problem exists on three Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10 > machines, while everything works fine on a KDE 4.1 machine and an Ubuntu 8.10 > Gnome machine and an 8.04 Gnome machine. It also work in WinXP. The only > Kubuntu 8.10 machine I tested it on is 64-bit, if that makes a difference. > > Thinking it was a problem with ntfs-3g or something, I reformatted the drive > as ext3. It made absolutely no difference. > > I want to report this as a bug, but have no idea what package to report > against. Any ideas? > Considering it only appears in KDE 3.5.10 I would assume that you would have to post it to KDE 3.5.10. BUT, don't expect it to get fixed. It is just possible that someone could decide to fix it, but for all practical intents and purposes KDE 3.x is not being "fixed" any longer. > This is a real PITA because the purpose of the drive depends on it working > with XP and Kubuntu 8.04. I have my music on my production Kubuntu computer > and my iTouch file system is only detected by iTunes 8 (which doesn't run > under wine or crossover). > I don't play with external drives and such all that much, but on both my 8.04/3.5.10 machines [ one 64 and one 32 ] I don't have the problem. Whenever I plug one in it works just fine. I seem to recall that HAL is what sees and mounts new drives etc. that are plugged in [ could be - and probably am - wrong about this ]. Could it be that somehow HAL got broken. Does it only happen with this one drive? -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 16:49:43 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:49:43 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> References: <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812191149.48761.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 19 December 2008 11:03:02 am Billie Walsh wrote: > Up front, I don't care for the Gnome desktop. I prefer KDE [ DUH! I > guess that's why I'm on the Kubuntu list ]. Well, they each have their pluses and minuses. I find more gnome stuff works as intended than kde, but I prefer the KDE apps and the greater control I have over how I use KDE. > > On the other hand there are a few aps that are gnome that I prefer over > the KDE counterpart. One that I use frequently is "gftp". The two I can think of right now are, synaptic over adept, and tsclient over krdp. But I only rarely use synaptic or adept for searching and always use aptitude for actual package management. Once you have gotten used to a cli package manager and its speed, you never want to use a gui again. I can run and update/upgrade on the command line in close to the time it just takes the gui to load. And I have rdesktop scripts that sort of replace the nice tsclient interface. > > I guess I just don't understand. What is all the fuss over having a few > gnomish bits installed? Ah, perhaps you misunderstand. Disk space is cheap. I don't care about having the "gnomish bits installed", I just don't want to load them into memory if I don't need to. If Firefox is built against gnome instead of merely gtk+, it loads gnome, in addition to the already running KDE, every time you use it. If you get Firefox from the Mozilla site, it is built against GTK+ and doesn't require actually running gnome. > > If that's how you want to run your computer that's fine. Choices is part > of what Linux is all about. I'm just curious is all. Hope I answered your questions. I think the "konqueror is the web browser" philosophy is the reason there is no Kubuntu Firefox, and instead the repos install the gnome-built version. /opt and /usr/local are your friends when you want to use stuff your distro doesn't provide. I also recommend that you put them on separate partitions if you don't want to lose them with new installs. Unfortunately it is tough to guess how big or small to make those partitions. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Fri Dec 19 17:28:35 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:28:35 +0000 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> andrew heggie wrote: > I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to > give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support. > I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to > reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who is > only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters. > > I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in > from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is > there another program that's supported and just the same? I am just recently doing this for an elderly friend (88years , first PC......, wants to do shopping on tesco direct). It is going quite well so far. My initial problems were related to the difficulty or maybe impossibility - of using my local LAN to do tests. The nearly final tests were to use the ful internet address of the target PC (ssh server machine) trying to log in to it, using my laptop (ssh client machine), where both machines were (conveniently) inside my own local LAN. At home with a vigor router, it worked ok. Relief. However, on location (a long way away!) when setting up the gifted machine (ssh server machine) the tests did not work. Two days spent, wasted, with lots of tests and research. I now find that quite a few routers do not allow such (test) connections using a full internet IP address to a machine located within its LAN. I finally had to use an independent internet connection (via a mobile phone in fact) for final tests, before I travelled back home. The remote machine has 384MB ram and is a 400 MHz PIII and is not too bad with ubuntu 8.04.1 I am using vnc in a ssh tunnel, and non standard ports (not port 22) -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Dec 19 17:44:35 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:44:35 -0400 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1581283.v9iq2RGZZ2@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: >> On Thursday 18 December 2008 4:16:08 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: >> >>> 2008/12/18 Art Alexion : >>> >>>> Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix >>>> that. >>>> >>> Well it don't really have a dependency on Gnome. >> >> Really? Yeah, really. I can't see any dependencies, only the "Suggests" for firefox-3.0-gnome-support. > Up front, I don't care for the Gnome desktop. I prefer KDE [ DUH! I > guess that's why I'm on the Kubuntu list ]. > > On the other hand there are a few aps that are gnome that I prefer > over the KDE counterpart. One that I use frequently is "gftp". > > I guess I just don't understand. What is all the fuss over having a > few gnomish bits installed? Well the fuss is not nearly so much about the "gnomish" bits, but the duplication, imo. Art's list specifically included: gksu: duplicating kdesudo, but differently gnome-keyring: duplicating kwallet gnome-mime-data: What? This isn't even desktop stuff... gnome-mount: gotta be doing something differently.... I could live with those, and others, except the gnome-keyring bit. It drives me nuts that my one frequently-used gnome app - evolution (for the exchange connector) has to pop up a separate prompt for the keyring from every other app I use. -- derek From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 17:02:32 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:02:32 -0500 Subject: Desktop widget on KDE 4.1 Message-ID: <200812191202.32833.art.alexion@gmail.com> doesn't seem to be able to refresh. New files aren't reflected, and deleted files remain. None of the tool-tip free buttons on the right seem to force a refresh. Is it me, or are others having this problem? Am I doing something wrong? Can a refresh be forced? As it now stands for me, the desktop is just another folder in ~/ that I need to use Konqueror to access. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 16:59:03 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:59:03 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <494BCC4E.6030608@swbell.net> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BCC4E.6030608@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812191159.04086.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 19 December 2008 11:31:10 am Billie Walsh wrote: > I don't play with external drives and such all that much, but on both my > 8.04/3.5.10 machines [ one 64 and one 32 ] I don't have the problem. > Whenever I plug one in it works just fine. Same with other drives and usb sticks. > > I seem to recall that HAL is what sees and mounts new drives etc. that > are plugged in [ could be - and probably am - wrong about this ]. I thought the same, but wouldn't hal-Ubuntu 8.04 be the same as hal-Kubuntu 8.04? > Could > it be that somehow HAL got broken. Unlikely broken the same on two different machines, unless some other Kubuntu 8.04-only update broke it. > Does it only happen with this one drive? This is a 2.5" IDE hard drive from a laptop, in a usb enclosure. The particular enclosure does not have its own power supply, but gets power from the USB port. The other magnetic drives that do work fine are 3.5" from desktops with separately powered enclosures. Would that make a difference? I don't know. I just know that I don't want to upgrade my kubuntu on this machine until at least 4.2, while I have finally found something that KDE 4.1 seems to do better than 3.5. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Dec 19 18:14:09 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:14:09 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: <200812191314.09156.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 19 December 2008, alan c wrote: > At home with a vigor router, it worked ok. Relief. However, on > location (a long way away!) when setting up the gifted machine (ssh > server machine) the tests did not work. Two days spent, wasted, with > lots of tests and research. I now find that quite a few routers do not > allow such (test) connections using a full internet IP address to a > machine located within its LAN. I finally had to use an independent > internet connection (via a mobile phone in fact) for final tests, > before I travelled back home. Most routers will allow you to set this up. You will ssh to the address of the router on a specific port (I wouldn't use 22, use something like 12000+ The router will see the incoming on that port and pass the incoming off to any machine you choose. In this case, only the one machine but you still need to specify it. On a multimachine network, you can pass the ssh to one machine and then ssh to others if need be. You might also want to set up a domain name with dyndns (free) so you can always find her machine. You can probably tell the router to handle the dyndns too. Most routers will do that. From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 18:20:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:20:18 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1581283.v9iq2RGZZ2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> <1581283.v9iq2RGZZ2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812191320.19126.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 19 December 2008 12:44:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > Art Alexion wrote: > >>   > >> > >> > >> Really? > > Yeah, really.  I can't see any dependencies, only the "Suggests" for > firefox-3.0-gnome-support. OK. With the --without-recommends parameter, aptitude only installs 6 packages, none of them gnome libs. It gave me a recommendation of ubufox, which I assume is the meta-package for all of the gnome stuff. Now I need to figure out how to get OOo 3 from the ppa to use java when needed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 18:13:46 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:13:46 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages =?iso-8859-1?q?to=09download=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1581283.v9iq2RGZZ2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494BC5B6.5050203@swbell.net> <1581283.v9iq2RGZZ2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812191313.51305.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 19 December 2008 12:44:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > Art Alexion wrote: > > >> Really? > > Yeah, really.  I can't see any dependencies, only the "Suggests" for > firefox-3.0-gnome-support. Here is what aptitude wants to do again, in case Billie didn't quote it. All I did was ask it to install firefox. art at splendid:~$ sudo aptitude install firefox [sudo] password for art: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: apturl{a} docbook-xml{a} firefox firefox-3.0{a} firefox-3.0-branding{a} gamin{a} gconf2{a} gconf2-common{a} gksu{a} gnome-app-install{a} gnome-icon-theme{a} gnome-keyring{a} gnome-mime-data{a} gnome-mount{a} libavahi-glib1{a} libbonobo2-0{a} libbonobo2-common{a} libbonoboui2-0{a} libbonoboui2-common{a} libcairo-perl{a} libgamin0{a} libgconf2-4{a} libgksu2-0{a} libglade2-0{a} libglib-perl{a} libgnome-keyring0{a} libgnome2-0{a} libgnome2-canvas-perl{a} libgnome2-common{a} libgnome2-perl{a} libgnome2-vfs-perl{a} libgnomecanvas2-0{a} libgnomecanvas2-common{a} libgnomeui-0{a} libgnomeui-common{a} libgnomevfs2-0{a} libgnomevfs2-common{a} libgnomevfs2-extra{a} libgp11-0{a} libgtk2-perl{a} libgtkhtml2-0{a} libgtop2-7{a} libgtop2-common{a} libidl0{a} liblaunchpad-integration1{a} libnotify1{a} liborbit2{a} libpam-gnome-keyring{a} libpolkit-gnome0{a} librsvg2-common{a} libscrollkeeper0{a} libsexy2{a} libstartup-notification0{a} libvte-common{a} libvte9{a} libwnck-common{a} libwnck22{a} libxres1{a} notification-daemon{a} policykit-gnome{a} python-cairo{a} python-gconf{a} python-glade2{a} python-gst0.10{a} python-gtk2{a} python-gtkhtml2{a} python-launchpad-integration{a} python-numeric{a} python-pyorbit{a} python-sexy{a} python-vte{a} scrollkeeper{a} sgml-data{a} software-properties-gtk{a} synaptic{a} ubufox{a} xulrunner-1.9{a} using the --without-recommends parameter, it just installs firefox and xulrunner. 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URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Dec 19 19:32:35 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:32:35 -0600 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <200812191159.04086.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BCC4E.6030608@swbell.net> <200812191159.04086.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494BF6D3.8010108@swbell.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Friday 19 December 2008 11:31:10 am Billie Walsh wrote: > >> I don't play with external drives and such all that much, but on both my >> 8.04/3.5.10 machines [ one 64 and one 32 ] I don't have the problem. >> Whenever I plug one in it works just fine. >> > > Same with other drives and usb sticks. > > > >> I seem to recall that HAL is what sees and mounts new drives etc. that >> are plugged in [ could be - and probably am - wrong about this ]. >> > > I thought the same, but wouldn't hal-Ubuntu 8.04 be the same as hal-Kubuntu > 8.04? > > > >> Could >> it be that somehow HAL got broken. >> > > Unlikely broken the same on two different machines, unless some other Kubuntu > 8.04-only update broke it. > You would have to ask someone _MUCH_ smarter than me. About all I know about it that I was using OpenSuSE with KDE 3.x and somehow HAL got broken and wouldn't do S___. That's what made me wonder if that might be a problem. > > >> Does it only happen with this one drive? >> > > This is a 2.5" IDE hard drive from a laptop, in a usb enclosure. The > particular enclosure does not have its own power supply, but gets power from > the USB port. The other magnetic drives that do work fine are 3.5" from > desktops with separately powered enclosures. Would that make a difference? > I don't know. > > I just know that I don't want to upgrade my kubuntu on this machine until at > least 4.2, while I have finally found something that KDE 4.1 seems to do > better than 3.5. > > > If some drives work fine I would think HAL must be working. My only suggestion would be to figure out a way to externally power the drive and see if that made a difference. Maybe a five volt wall wart and a home made USB connector. If I remember correctly the data uses the two center connections and the power is on the two outer connections [ I think I found that information on Wikipedia ]. I don't know if Rat Shack [ Radio Shack for the uninitiated ] has USB connectors for experimental use but that might be a choice if they do. Otherwise carefully remove the outer covering from an old USB cable and figure out the wiring and splice in a power connection after you cut the leads to the computer end. Come to think of it, something like that might come in handy for other uses also. May have to build one just for fun. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Fri Dec 19 20:02:31 2008 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:02:31 +0000 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <494BF6D3.8010108@swbell.net> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BCC4E.6030608@swbell.net> <200812191159.04086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BF6D3.8010108@swbell.net> Message-ID: <20081219200231.3facd354.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:32:35 -0600 Billie Walsh wrote: BW> My only suggestion would be to figure out a way to externally power BW> the drive and see if that made a difference. Maybe a five volt wall BW> wart and a home made USB connector. If I remember correctly the BW> data uses the two center connections and the power is on the two BW> outer connections [ I think I found that information on Wikipedia BW> ]. I don't know if Rat Shack [ Radio Shack for the uninitiated ] BW> has USB connectors for experimental use but that might be a choice BW> if they do. Otherwise carefully remove the outer covering from an BW> old USB cable and figure out the wiring and splice in a power BW> connection after you cut the leads to the computer end. I'm not quite sure about this, but if my memory servers me, some mp3 players actually have a mains adaptor that plugs into the mini-usb socket. If that's right then you would only need a mini-USB -> full-size adaptor. [Might be worth checking Newegg (US), Dabs (UK) or equivalent]. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From mailinglist at endosquid.com Fri Dec 19 20:22:38 2008 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:22:38 -0500 Subject: Have I been removed from the list? In-Reply-To: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812180129.43830.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812191522.38743.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 18 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear sirs: > > I haven't received any emails from the forum since yesterday, Tuesday, > 12:08am. Did I get removed from the list? If I did, would you please tell > me what I did that was wrong. The List is very important to me. I am Yes, we all took a vote and decided that you're bad. Sorry, it happens. From art.alexion at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 20:17:50 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:17:50 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <494BF6D3.8010108@swbell.net> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812191159.04086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494BF6D3.8010108@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812191517.55829.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Friday 19 December 2008 2:32:35 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > About all I know > about it that I was using OpenSuSE with KDE 3.x and somehow HAL got > broken and wouldn't do S___. That's what made me wonder if that might be > a problem. I think the problem IS hal related. That's my quandary. I would think that hal/Ubuntu 8.04 would be the same as hal/Kubuntu 8.04. Maybe gnome-vfs picks up where hal fails. I don't know.... (sigh) > > >   > > > >> Does it only happen with this one drive? > >>     > > > > This is a 2.5" IDE hard drive from a laptop, in a usb enclosure.  The > > particular enclosure does not have its own power supply, but gets power > > from the USB port.  The other magnetic drives that do work fine are 3.5" > > from desktops with separately powered enclosures.  Would that make a > > difference? I don't know. > > > > I just know that I don't want to upgrade my kubuntu on this machine until > > at least 4.2, while I have finally found something that KDE 4.1 seems to > > do better than 3.5. > > > > > >   > > If some drives work fine I would think HAL must be working. Not necessarily, it may be working well enough to connect to some drives, but not all. > > My only suggestion would be to figure out a way to externally power the > drive and see if that made a difference. Maybe a five volt wall wart and > a home made USB connector. If I remember correctly the data uses the two > center connections and the power is on the two outer connections [ I > think I found that information on Wikipedia ]. I don't know if Rat Shack > [ Radio Shack for the uninitiated ] has USB connectors for experimental > use but that might be a choice if they do. Otherwise carefully remove > the outer covering from an old USB cable and figure out the wiring and > splice in a power connection after you cut the leads to the computer end. > > Come to think of it, something like that might come in handy for other > uses also. May have to build one just for fun. First what I like about this is portability. It is about the size of a silver cigarette case, with only the usb cable as a dongle. If I am going with power and all, I can use a 500 GB 3.5" that works fine on Kubuntu KDE 3.5. That may be where I am until KDE 4 works well enough to rely on. My other choice is getting iTunes to connect to my iTouch while running in a VM. That, or sell my iTouch and get a standard iPod that works with Amarok. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Fri Dec 19 20:55:20 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:55:20 +0000 Subject: ssh References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812181600.49440.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Bruce Marshall wrote: > openssh is on hardy....   don't know what you are running. > Do you mean it was already installed? How do I check? AJH From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Fri Dec 19 20:59:59 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:59:59 +0000 Subject: ssh References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: alan c wrote: >> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log >> in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, >> is there another program that's supported and just the same? > > > I am just recently doing this for an elderly friend (88years , first > PC......, wants to do shopping on tesco direct). It's for my father-in-law 86, he was going to buy a pc but his son had windows virus problems and he's been put off. I wanted to give him a pc and tell him not to worry about anything as he couldn't affect it. I've installed kubuntu hardy with 3.5 on the gifted box, from a member of my lug. It's p4 1.6G Gateway. It's just updating now and that's one of the reasons I'm not keen on this full install, because it will receive a lot of updates for programs he'll never use and I might have to access the internet by a 3g modem as he hasn't broadband yet. I've stuck with Kubuntu because I can use linux but am not at all competent with it. I've minded to stick puppy in the cd tray and a usb stick and run from that, possibly with no hdd. We were recently given a talk at a lug meeting by a chap that had done something similar but used debian and cut it down himself. He also configured some high contrast skins and changed system fonts to large verdana. > It is going quite > well so far. My initial problems were related to the difficulty or > maybe impossibility - of using my local LAN to do tests. The nearly > final tests were to use the ful internet address of the target PC (ssh > server machine) trying to log in to it, using my laptop (ssh client > machine), where both machines were (conveniently) inside my own local LAN. This is going to challenge me, I've not even networked computers before despite having up to four in the house. I'm using two routers, dhcp disabled on one, on the same subnet which gives me wireless and 6 ethernet ports. By full internet address do you mean something like bill at nameofcomputer.fullipaddress:portnumber? > I am using vnc in a ssh tunnel, and non standard ports Could you pad this out a bit please? I'd like to know the order of doing things to make the ssh tunnel and then run vnc whilst at home and then I guess I'll take the pc over at christmas! AJH From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Dec 19 21:34:27 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:34:27 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812181600.49440.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812191634.27901.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 19 December 2008, andrew heggie wrote: > Do you mean it was already installed? > > How do I check? No, the server is not installed by default. You need to install it. openssh-server From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 22:48:56 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:48:56 +0100 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/19 Art Alexion : > On Thursday 18 December 2008 4:16:08 pm Jonas Norlander wrote: >> 2008/12/18 Art Alexion : >> > I have made it a practice not to install firefox from the ubuntu repos >> > onto kubuntu because it installs gnome as a dependency. Problem is, if >> > you don't do that and install firefox from mozilla, you will have >> > problems. >> > >> > Gnome should not be a firefox dependency. I wish someone would fix that. >> >> Well it don't really have a dependency on Gnome. If you install the >> firefox meta package it _suggest_ firefox-3.0-gnome-support and if you >> install that it pulls in a lot of Gnome stuff like libgnomevfs and >> libgconf. I don't know how it was before but now on Intrepid Gnome >> it's not a dependency. > > > Really? Yes! Remember that aptitude will pull in more packages then just what the package you are installing depends on. I think as default it will install all recommended packages to. "apt-rdepends -d firefox" Will give you a list of packages that firefox depends on and there is no gnome packages there what i can see at least not on Kubuntu Intrepid. / Jonas From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 01:56:39 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:56:39 +1000 Subject: 4.2 Beta 2 and kcron Message-ID: <200812201156.44015.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> The kcron package appears to be missing the binary - anyone else seen this? -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sat Dec 20 08:23:55 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:23:55 -0500 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] Message-ID: I'm a long time kde user. But I think perhaps the things I liked about it differed from the things the kde developers liked about it... I've had very little exposure to kde4 I did do a test install of intrepid alpha 6 from which I would have run away (screaming) except that I was so lost I had to crawl away (whimpering) I recently tripped over this link: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ I think it goes a long way to explaining why, or at least what, is changing in kde... It does lead me to some specific questions however. This time I'd like to ask about this short quote from it... -> What is KRunner? -> -> KRunner is the versatile mini-command line you can activate by pushing -> "Alt-F2" or by selecting "Run Command" from the desktop contextual menu. -> It can search for applications, bookmarks, even sessions basing on your -> input, show system activity and even do simple arithmetic calculations. -> -> KRunner's functionality can be extended through the use of plugins -> ("runners"). I'm sure this is thought of as an improvement over the OLD "Alt-F2 Run Command" But I don't exactly think in pictures. and "Alt-F2" wanted me to select from a bunch of icons... Which to me are not only mostly meaningless, but my mind tries to process something like the proverbial thousand words for each of them, which makes it hard to remember what to type... I Like accessing the command history via the up/down arrows. And seeing a list of selectable command text (including command arguments) when I start typing the command name. If for example I type a "k" I get a list that includes entries for konsole, krusader, and kwrite. The latter includes some absolute pathnames that I'd rather select than retype. Is it possible to get KRunner to discontinue using icons and to use the same kind of text based command history display that I just described? Is there a how-to somewhere? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat Dec 20 13:46:33 2008 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:46:33 +0000 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494CF739.7020104@tiscali.co.uk> Art Alexion wrote: > ubufox{a} > This is what pulls in all the GNOME stuff... remove that and the GNOME stuff goes too... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 20 14:34:27 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:34:27 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 Message-ID: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> Following the link given by Joe in his thread I found this golden nugget: > > What's the deal with the K menu? It's big and ugly! > > During the development of KDE 4.0, different approaches for a K menu > (application launcher) were tried. Some projects, like Raptor, were > ambitious but there was no way they could be completed on time. At the > time, one developer ported SUSE Linux's application launcher (Kickoff) > to the new KDE architecture. As it was the most ready and feature > complete (not to mention the product of usability testing) it was > chosen to be the default menu. If you don't like it, the traditional > K-menu is available as well. Also, some alternative menu systems have > been announced (Lancelot, Raptor), but at the time of writing they're > still in development. > It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 14:44:58 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:44:58 +1000 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: > There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE > users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. How do you know that? has anyone surveyed them? A big fuss on the mailing list only translates into a fraction of users. The number of people who regularly post here is pretty few really. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They called into question the parenthood of just about everyone at SUSE. There were more than just a few posters. There were a _LOT_. Besides a "majority" is only 51%. So, if only just over half the SUSE users don't use it.......... -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 15:28:10 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:28:10 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: >> There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE >> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. > > How do you know that? has anyone surveyed them? A big fuss on the mailing list > only translates into a fraction of users. > > The number of people who regularly post here is pretty few really. > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album The number that post are few but very often I hear a lot of people step up and agree with one side or the other when asked. It may be a small group but I think they bring up the good and the bad that all see and don't talk about much. A good example is the KDE 4 threads here. Some liked it and some did not but there were solid trends about the types of people taking each side. I think you can lean a lot by reading the lists. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat Dec 20 17:26:25 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:26:25 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: > > It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. > They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose > SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE > users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not usually follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for user-to-user support.. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat Dec 20 17:40:01 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:40:01 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sat December 20 2008 10:08:21 am Billie Walsh wrote: > > You obviously weren't there for the mayhem. It was pretty ugly. They > called into question the parenthood of just about everyone at SUSE. > There were more than just a few posters. There were a _LOT_. > Another reason for them not to follow a user list, unfortunately :( > Besides a "majority" is only 51%. So, if only just over half the SUSE > users don't use it.......... ......the remaining 49% are irrelevant? With no real way to gauge this sort of thing, majority, minority, plurality, quorum, etc become meaningless terms -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 20 18:37:54 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:37:54 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. Message-ID: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> My daughter just sent a Christmas CD of my grandbabies singing. It won't play because of a demux problem. I have installed every demux available in Adept Package Manager. What else can I do? I think it was recorded on a Macintosh Computer. Steven From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Dec 20 18:41:21 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:41:21 +0000 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup Message-ID: Hi, Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... I have the following problem. Kontact crasches each time when i startup. This is what i get; Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT Thread 1 (Thread 0xb4af86c0 (LWP 6075)): [KCrash Handler] #6 0xb8020430 in __kernel_vsyscall () #7 0xb5894880 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #8 0xb5896248 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #9 0xb5b3a795 in qt_message_output () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #10 0xb5b3a872 in qFatal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #11 0xb5b3a915 in qt_assert () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #12 0xb6f0408e in KDBusServiceStarter::KDBusServiceStarter () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #13 0xb78c196c in Kontact::MainWindow::MainWindow () from /usr/lib/libkontactprivate.so.4 #14 0x0804acee in _start () Does anyone have an idea to resolve this? Thx Karl, From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 19:04:58 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:04:58 +0100 Subject: booting to ram Message-ID: Can Kubuntu be set up to boot to ram? I am talking about a fulling installed system not a live disk. Could the bin dir be put in a ram disk (can you make a ram disk?) and then get program boot speeds like you do from something like Damn Small Linux? I have 2g of ram and for 30$ could get another 2g for a total of 4g (64 bit system btw). My system seems to always run on like 20% of the ram I have anyway. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Sat Dec 20 19:17:11 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:17:11 +1100 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband Message-ID: Does anyone out there know of the use of a modem usb stick for prepaid for broadband. Can it be used for Kubuntu and if can be configured to run both xp pro and Kubuntu as have dual boot system ray _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 19:45:54 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:45:54 +0100 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/20 Steven Vollom : > My daughter just sent a Christmas CD of my grandbabies singing. It won't play > because of a demux problem. I have installed every demux available in Adept > Package Manager. What else can I do? I think it was recorded on a Macintosh > Computer. > > Steven > Have you run the "file" command on the files on the CD? Do that and perhaps it will tell you what kind of file/codec it is. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 20:33:05 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:33:05 +0100 Subject: Strange permissions on mounted dvd Message-ID: Hi! I have installed Intrepid on a friends computer (trying to convert him). But i have problem with the permissions on mounted dvd/cd. It looks to be HAL related but i have no idea where to go from here. I hoping for the community for a fast fix before he gives up and reinstalling Windows XP. Permissions in /media before and after a DVD is mounted. Makes no difference if i mount it with mount from a terminal or from dolphine. $ ls -l /media/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom0 $ ls -l /media/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> cdrom0 dr--r--r-- 30 4294967295 4294967295 3024 2008-08-02 11:17 cdrom0 See that strange owner and group id on the mountpoint? $ LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - Easy Listening: Permission denied ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/A Tribute To Abba (metal): Permission denied ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? 20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - Easy Listening ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? A Tribute To Abba (metal) No problems as root: $ sudo LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ total 76 dr--r--r-- 2 4294967295 4294967295 2736 Jul 30 00:16 20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - Easy Listening dr--r--r-- 2 4294967295 4294967295 1576 May 24 2008 A Tribute To Abba (metal) Output from mount for the dvd: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,utf8,user=stefan) $ grep stefan /etc/passwd stefan:x:1000:1000:Stefan Gjersvold:/home/stefan:/bin/bash $ groups stefan stefan adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev users scanner lpadmin admin sambashare I have searched the net and ubuntu bugs but no clues. I don't know where to go from here. Has someone seen something like this before or know what the cause could be? / Jonas From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Dec 20 21:00:26 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:00:26 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: > >> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. >> They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose >> SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE >> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. >> >> > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not usually > follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for user-to-user > support.. > > I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into something for others to use I would like to have some sort of indication of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going in the direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I would take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of thing. If your a retail business and you stop listening to the customers needs and start dictating to the customer, well, there's another store just down the street. I've already seen many, at least threatening to, jump off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's another interface available. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat Dec 20 22:29:30 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:29:30 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sat December 20 2008 4:00:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: > >> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. > >> They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose > >> SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE > >> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. > > > > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not > > usually follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for > > user-to-user support.. > > I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into > something for others to use I would like to have some sort of indication > of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going in the > direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I would > take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of thing. > If your a retail business and you stop listening to the customers needs > and start dictating to the customer, well, there's another store just > down the street. I've already seen many, at least threatening to, jump > off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's another interface available. > > -- > Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. Unfortunately, that is a bad analogy as the 'customer' and 'retail business' concepts do not really fit, as each individual person who contributes (in whatever capacity) to an open source project does so for their own personal reasons, even in a project as large in scope as KDE. They are not necessarily tied to 'customer service' if you will. http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/category/kde/ the above link, and the comments, show some good insight from both sides in relation to Lancelot. Also please not that I am not necessarily disagreeing with you on the overall subject at hand. Where/how do non-contributing users properly and sanely voice their concerns where the developers can easily see them? -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 23:27:04 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:27:04 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: > Where/how do non-contributing users properly and sanely voice their concerns > where the developers can easily see them? > > -- > Clay Weber IMOHO, a person that voices their concerns IS a contributing user/dev. I do open dev work and I do it because I like to write. But, it is very nice to have others like what you write. I feel that all projects should do research to learn what is needed/wanted by the users. It is sad that more of this is not done and USED. A great place to start this research is a list like this plus a few serverys of users. I think the real problem is that programmers are not into this sort of work and there are not enough people that are to go around. Maybe this sort of work is not as fun as programming, especially if the programmers don't respect and use it. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From art.alexion at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 23:28:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:28:18 -0500 Subject: Java for use in Firefox and Open Office - which packages to download? In-Reply-To: <494CF739.7020104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200812181453.16672.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812190944.15819.art.alexion@gmail.com> <494CF739.7020104@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812201528j7b7fdc7ak58326a6eeed4c4aa@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Wulfy wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: >> ubufox{a} >> > This is what pulls in all the GNOME stuff... remove that and the GNOME > stuff goes too... I installed with the --without-recommends parameter. Flash and Java still don't work. This is a work machine. I will play with nspluginwrapper on Monday. Thanks to those who clued me in on the "recommends". -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 23:36:50 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:36:50 -0500 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Ray Burke wrote: > Does anyone out there know of the use of a modem usb stick for prepaid for > broadband. Can it be used for Kubuntu and if can be configured to run both > xp pro and Kubuntu as have dual boot system > Yes. Use pppd to establish the connection. I don't know the KDE gui, but I'm sure there is one. You don't need to do anything for it to work under XP as well. Just use ppp dial up networking. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 00:03:34 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:03:34 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812201603i4ac41195r7a320b2911c78765@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Following the link given by Joe in his thread I found this golden nugget: > >> >> What's the deal with the K menu? It's big and ugly! I'm one of those people who don't even like the "classic" Kmenu (or any Start menu actually). I loved katapult, and can live with its merger into alt+F2. What I miss is QuickLauncher. I can add launchers to the panel with KDE 4.1, but the icons are so big, they take up too much space. Is there a way to make them smaller so that I can fit two rows? I noticed with my 3.5 and 4.1 machines side by side that 8 launchers on the 3.5 panel take up the same space as one and a half take up on 4.1. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 00:05:40 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:05:40 +1000 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users interfaces would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the dice and take a dive into the unknown. I say this as a user (of KDE) and a developer (of unrelated projects). There's a lot I would have done differently with KDE4 but overall I applaud the chutzpah of the project. Interesting times are ahead for KDE. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 21 00:11:26 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:11:26 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <494D89AE.3090200@swbell.net> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 4:00:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Clay Weber wrote: >> >>> On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. >>>> They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose >>>> SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE >>>> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. >>>> >>> yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not >>> usually follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for >>> user-to-user support.. >>> >> I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into >> something for others to use I would like to have some sort of indication >> of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going in the >> direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I would >> take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of thing. >> If your a retail business and you stop listening to the customers needs >> and start dictating to the customer, well, there's another store just >> down the street. I've already seen many, at least threatening to, jump >> off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's another interface available. >> >> -- >> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. >> > > Unfortunately, that is a bad analogy as the 'customer' and 'retail business' > concepts do not really fit, as each individual person who contributes (in > whatever capacity) to an open source project does so for their own personal > reasons, even in a project as large in scope as KDE. They are not necessarily > tied to 'customer service' if you will. > > http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/category/kde/ > the above link, and the comments, show some good insight from both sides in > relation to Lancelot. > > Also please not that I am not necessarily disagreeing with you on the overall > subject at hand. > > Where/how do non-contributing users properly and sanely voice their concerns > where the developers can easily see them? > > Why is it a bad analogy. The devs, one, two, a dozen, have a product they want users, customers, to use. As long as the users are happy they use the product of the devs labors. When the devs stop making a product the users are happy with the users will go to another product. When the users stop using the product of the devs labors what is the point of making it any more. The devs provide a service to the users, a workable desktop. The users "pay" for this with their "thanks" [ probably not often enough ], bug reports, requests for new services, and suggestions for improvement. I'm not so sure I completely buy the "I only do it for myself" line. They might do it for their own use, but then why put it out for the world to use. There has to be some satisfaction that hundred, thousands, millions (?) find pleasure in your labors. You do it about as much for them as for yourself. Is there _really_ such a thing as a "non-contributing user". Some might contribute more than others but almost everybody contributes in some way. There have been many discussions on this list that have developed into bug reports. Not always posted by the person that had the problem, but a bug gets posted because they "contributed" their problem to the list. Maybe today I have a problem and get help. Maybe tomorrow someone else has a problem and I can help "fix" it in some small way. I think we all contribute in some way. Maybe not directly, but still take part in making this work. I think we are having a nice discussion. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 00:25:51 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:25:51 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812201625i43d79caaq98084d28ab9d6598@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Interesting times are ahead for KDE. > I always thought the phrase, "May you live in interesting times", was a curse ;^) -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 21 00:52:28 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:52:28 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812201625i43d79caaq98084d28ab9d6598@mail.gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812201625i43d79caaq98084d28ab9d6598@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494D934C.3050103@swbell.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Lindsay Mathieson > wrote: > >> Interesting times are ahead for KDE. >> >> > > I always thought the phrase, "May you live in interesting times", was > a curse ;^) > Are you sure it isn't. Perhaps that's what he meant. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 01:41:18 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:41:18 +0200 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494D9EBE.6090509@gmail.com> Knapp wrote: > Can Kubuntu be set up to boot to ram? I am talking about a fulling > installed system not a live disk. > Could the bin dir be put in a ram disk (can you make a ram disk?) and > then get program boot speeds like you do from something like Damn > Small Linux? I have 2g of ram and for 30$ could get another 2g for a > total of 4g (64 bit system btw). My system seems to always run on like > 20% of the ram I have anyway. > very good question, i'd like to know that as well. i can increase my RAM pretty easily, and this can speed up things pretty much -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Dec 21 01:45:41 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:45:41 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <494D89AE.3090200@swbell.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D89AE.3090200@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812202045.41571.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sat December 20 2008 7:11:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > Why is it a bad analogy. The devs, one, two, a dozen, have a product > they want users, customers, to use. As long as the users are happy they > use the product of the devs labors. When the devs stop making a product > the users are happy with the users will go to another product. When the > users stop using the product of the devs labors what is the point of > making it any more. The devs provide a service to the users, a workable > desktop. The users "pay" for this with their "thanks" [ probably not > often enough ], bug reports, requests for new services, and suggestions > for improvement. Because, no matter what the motivation, they are not truly beholden to end users 100%. They don't demand or expect anything generally speaking, imo. > > I'm not so sure I completely buy the "I only do it for myself" line. > They might do it for their own use, but then why put it out for the > world to use. There has to be some satisfaction that hundred, thousands, > millions (?) find pleasure in your labors. You do it about as much for > them as for yourself. "I only do it for myself" doesn't exclude that satisfaction, at least that's how I am taking it to mean in many cases. > Is there _really_ such a thing as a "non-contributing user". My wife makes one ;) > Some might > contribute more than others but almost everybody contributes in some > way. There have been many discussions on this list that have developed > into bug reports. Not always posted by the person that had the problem, > but a bug gets posted because they "contributed" their problem to the > list. Maybe today I have a problem and get help. Maybe tomorrow someone > else has a problem and I can help "fix" it in some small way. I think we > all contribute in some way. Maybe not directly, but still take part in > making this work. > > I think we are having a nice discussion. So do I :) > -- > Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 21 03:10:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:10:42 -0500 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: <494D9EBE.6090509@gmail.com> References: <494D9EBE.6090509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812202210.43263.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 20 December 2008 8:41:18 pm Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Knapp wrote: > > Can Kubuntu be set up to boot to ram? I am talking about a fulling > > installed system not a live disk. > > Could the bin dir be put in a ram disk (can you make a ram disk?) and > > then get program boot speeds like you do from something like Damn > > Small Linux? I have 2g of ram and for 30$ could get another 2g for a > > total of 4g (64 bit system btw). My system seems to always run on like > > 20% of the ram I have anyway. > > very good question, i'd like to know that as well. i can increase my RAM > pretty easily, and this can speed up things pretty much Dear Knapp, You may change the whole system with that idea. If it works, it is genius. It would remove the biggest pain in the neck for the whole industry of users. Even if it doesn't work, what a great idea. If I made motherboards, I would build a designated boot slot and corner the market. Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao Bello, and Cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 21 03:13:08 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:13:08 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812202213.08321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 20 December 2008 7:05:40 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users interfaces > would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the dice and take a > dive into the unknown. > > I say this as a user (of KDE) and a developer (of unrelated projects). > There's a lot I would have done differently with KDE4 but overall I applaud > the chutzpah of the project. Interesting times are ahead for KDE. As little as I know, I agree completely. Playing it safe in the comfort zone is like swamp water. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 21 03:20:28 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:20:28 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812202220.28712.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Have you run the "file" command on the files on the CD? Do that and > perhaps it will tell you what kind of file/codec it is. I typed in file /dev/sdc1 and did not get anything. I don't seem to be able to figure out how to start using the terminal. I was told to type in kwin when the desktop did not function. I can't understand why typing in file and where I want it to look doesn't show the contents of the DVDROM. Rock-brain, Steven From godshatter at yahoo.com Sun Dec 21 05:32:04 2008 From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:32:04 -0800 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: <494D9EBE.6090509@gmail.com> References: <494D9EBE.6090509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494DD4D4.4040107@yahoo.com> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Knapp wrote: >> Can Kubuntu be set up to boot to ram? I am talking about a fulling >> installed system not a live disk. >> Could the bin dir be put in a ram disk (can you make a ram disk?) and >> then get program boot speeds like you do from something like Damn >> Small Linux? I have 2g of ram and for 30$ could get another 2g for a >> total of 4g (64 bit system btw). My system seems to always run on like >> 20% of the ram I have anyway. >> > > very good question, i'd like to know that as well. i can increase my > RAM pretty easily, and this can speed up things pretty much > This wiki page came up in a search, on Ubuntu's own site. I haven't tried this, but it looks like it's all ready to go. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM Paul From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 06:03:14 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:03:14 +1000 Subject: KDE4 Photo Album Manager? Message-ID: <200812211603.18432.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Can anyone recommend a KDE4 based Photo Album Manager? I'd like the following features: - Ability to download photo via USB from the Camera - Management of photo library - Ability to generate template based photo albums - Ability to upload said albums to a web page via ftp I'm been using JAlbum, a java based app which is pretty good, but I'd like to trial a more integrated KDE app if there is one. I looked at digicam, but it appears to be still KDE 3.5 at the moment. Thanks, -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can it be used for Kubuntu and if can be configured to run both> > xp pro and Kubuntu as have dual boot system> >> > Yes. Use pppd to establish the connection. I don't know the KDE gui,> but I'm sure there is one.> > You don't need to do anything for it to work under XP as well. Just> use ppp dial up networking.> > > > -- > > --> artAlexion> sent unsigned from webmail interface> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 21 06:30:37 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:30:37 +0200 Subject: KDE4 Photo Album Manager? In-Reply-To: <200812211603.18432.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812211603.18432.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494DE28D.6030602@prayingforisrael.net> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Can anyone recommend a KDE4 based Photo Album Manager? I'd like the following > features: > - Ability to download photo via USB from the Camera > - Management of photo library > - Ability to generate template based photo albums > - Ability to upload said albums to a web page via ftp > > I'm been using JAlbum, a java based app which is pretty good, but I'd like to > trial a more integrated KDE app if there is one. > > I looked at digicam, but it appears to be still KDE 3.5 at the moment. > > Thanks, > > Not specifically KDE (but does 'look' like one); try AlbumShaper it's quite good. Blessings, Nigel From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 21 08:49:20 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:49:20 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be wrote: > Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... > I have the following problem. > Kontact crasches each time when i startup. > > This is what i get; > Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT Maybe there is a problem with the configuration file for kontact. Take a look at the directory "$HOME/.kde/share/config". There should be a file "kontactrc". Move that file to another location (e.g. your home directory) as a backup in case there is some valuable setting in that file. Then restart kontact - does it still crash? BTW: I can't check it here because I'm not yet using KDE4. Nils From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 09:23:07 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:23:07 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812201603i4ac41195r7a320b2911c78765@mail.gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <5a1f6bd00812201603i4ac41195r7a320b2911c78765@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/12/21 Art Alexion : > I'm one of those people who don't even like the "classic" Kmenu (or > any Start menu actually). I loved katapult, and can live with its > merger into alt+F2. What I miss is QuickLauncher. I can add > launchers to the panel with KDE 4.1, but the icons are so big, they > take up too much space. Is there a way to make them smaller so that I > can fit two rows? I noticed with my 3.5 and 4.1 machines side by side > that 8 launchers on the 3.5 panel take up the same space as one and a > half take up on 4.1. > There is a Quicklaunch plasmoid if you don't mind compile it yourself. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickLauncher+Applet?content=78061 / Jonas From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 09:31:46 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:31:46 +0100 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: References: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812211031.47182.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Sunday 21 December 2008 07:27:09 Ray Burke wrote: > I have been told by all 4 who supply the stick (telstra,DoDo,optus and > 3)for the prepaid broadband that is not compatable for linux, so what your > response to that, by just changing the PPPd(how?) will solve this problem, > as dont want to comit not knowing if I cant connect?????? What is the name of the stick you're planning to use? In intrepid I successfully use a huawei E169. It is recognized and easily set up in kneworkmanager (or networkmanager applet in gnome) as new connection -> Broad Band. You may also use utmsmon in Hardy. Also wvdial, of course, works. 3 works here (Italy). I'm using a different provider, but people say it works fine. -- lanzen From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 09:38:53 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:38:53 +0100 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812202220.28712.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812202220.28712.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/21 Steven Vollom : > >> Have you run the "file" command on the files on the CD? Do that and >> perhaps it will tell you what kind of file/codec it is. > > I typed in file /dev/sdc1 and did not get anything. I don't seem to be able > to figure out how to start using the terminal. I was told to type in kwin > when the desktop did not function. I can't understand why typing in file and > where I want it to look doesn't show the contents of the DVDROM. > > Rock-brain, > Steven > The file command is used on a file not the DVD device that you tried. In your case you have to mount the DVD (it is a data dvd?) and then use file command on one of the files on the DVD, something like this "file /media/cdrom0/mystrangesoundfile.wav". This is the output i get on a JPEG picture file: $ file Angels\ Chill\ Trance\ Essentials\ B.jpg Angels Chill Trance Essentials B.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 What programs have you tried to play the files with? I use Amarok for the most of my sound files, it can handle most of them but if that don't work i try it with VLC (Video Lan Client) which is a great program that can play almost all sound and video formats that is common. / Jonas From wa4geg at netscape.net Sun Dec 21 11:33:09 2008 From: wa4geg at netscape.net (Byron Campbell) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:33:09 -0500 Subject: KDE4 Photo Album Manager? Message-ID: <1229859189.11942.32.camel@Kubuntu-Box> On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 16:03 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Can anyone recommend a KDE4 based Photo Album Manager? I'd like > the following features: > - Ability to download photo via USB from the Camera > - Management of photo library > - Ability to generate template based photo albums > - Ability to upload said albums to a web page via ftp > > I'm been using JAlbum, a java based app which is pretty good, but > I'd like to trial a more integrated KDE app if there is one. > > I looked at digicam, but it appears to be still KDE 3.5 at the > moment. > > Thanks, > Did a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10 last weekend, updated KDE to 4.1.3, then added DigiKam. DigiKam version 0.9.4 was installed. Haven't got around to importing albums etc., so can't comment on how well it handles them. Regards, Byron From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 11:49:29 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:49:29 +1000 Subject: KDE4 Photo Album Manager? In-Reply-To: <494DE28D.6030602@prayingforisrael.net> References: <200812211603.18432.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494DE28D.6030602@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812212149.33901.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:30:37 pm Nigel Ridley wrote: > Not specifically KDE (but does 'look' like one); try AlbumShaper it's quite > good. Thanks Nigel, I'll check it out. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 12:17:17 2008 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:17:17 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will Message-ID: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> Hi, I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed and I assume XFCE was installed when I installed Ubuntu. They both start and run fine on my PC. I also installed KDE. KDE will not start. I have booted into a terminal even and tried to get it to start from there. I get an error that says "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." This seems strange to me since Gnome and XFCE will run. Mandriva One which uses KDE 4.1 will also run on this same computer. Any idea what the problem might be or why the Nvidia drivers are ok for everything I've tried except KDE on Ubuntu? I would prefer to run KDE. Eric From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Sun Dec 21 14:52:50 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:52:50 +0100 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Sunday 21 December 2008 13:17, Eric wrote: > Hi, > > I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed and I assume XFCE was installed when I > installed Ubuntu. They both start and run fine on my PC. I also > installed KDE. KDE will not start. I have booted into a terminal even > and tried to get it to start from there. I get an error that says > "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." This seems strange > to me since Gnome and XFCE will run. > > Mandriva One which uses KDE 4.1 will also run on this same computer. > > Any idea what the problem might be or why the Nvidia drivers are ok for > everything I've tried except KDE on Ubuntu? I would prefer to run KDE. > > Eric I have both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu 8.10 installed. It could be that you are missing some KDE components, which may explain why it won't start. I've just fires up Kubuntu, and there is a list of my installed KDE packages below. kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-plasma kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdebluetooth kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kde-icons-oxygen kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepassword kdepim-kresources kdepimlibs5 kdepimlibs-data kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-data kdeplasma-addons-libs4 kde-printer-applet kdesudo kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf kdf kdm (may not need that, as you have gdm as display manager) All the best. Nigel. From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 14:58:57 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:58:57 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812202213.08321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200812202213.08321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Saturday 20 December 2008 7:05:40 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users interfaces >> would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the dice and take a >> dive into the unknown. >> >> I say this as a user (of KDE) and a developer (of unrelated projects). >> There's a lot I would have done differently with KDE4 but overall I applaud >> the chutzpah of the project. Interesting times are ahead for KDE. > > As little as I know, I agree completely. Playing it safe in the comfort zone > is like swamp water. > > Steven I too think what the KDE team is doing is great but that is not to say it could not be done better. When it comes to any problems with KDE4, for me it is because of distros adopting the work before it is ready to work in a stable full featured way. I still think that KDE4 might be ready for Kubuntu by the time a new stable release is due out. For the Kubuntu Devs to enter into an agreement to give us a stable KDE system and then back out is wrong, they broke their word to the users. 8.10 should have been a stable KDE3 system and then they might have thought about switching to KDE4. None of this is a fault of the KDE dev team!! Innovation has a place and that place is not in the slot of an expected and planed stable release. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 15:05:05 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:05:05 +0100 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found this for making a ram disk. http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html So then the next step is to see what needs to be on that ram disk. Any ideas anyone? Anything that is loaded with the load of FF would be good, I would think. Bin and sbin? Lib? (way to big!!) maybe just some of it? lib32? lib64? -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 15:16:55 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:16:55 -0500 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: References: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812210716u3ac949c5v149263efbd148071@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Ray Burke wrote: > I have been told by all 4 who supply the stick (telstra,DoDo,optus and 3) > for the prepaid broadband that is not compatable for linux, so what your > response > to that, by just changing the PPPd(how?) will solve this problem, as dont > want to comit > not knowing if I cant connect?????? In my experience, when companies say their products don't work with Linux, it usually means that (1) they don't know, (2) that they don't want to train their support staff to troubleshoot Linux to serve a relative minority of users. While some hardware products which use parts of windows to save money on firmware truly don't work with Linux, this is rare these days. I have never tried doing it with Kubuntu, but pppd and gnome-ppp worked fine for me on my Ubuntu laptop. There are instructions for setting up these up if you google for them. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 15:23:06 2008 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:23:06 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> Nigel Henry wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 13:17, Eric wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed and I assume XFCE was installed when I >> installed Ubuntu. They both start and run fine on my PC. I also >> installed KDE. KDE will not start. I have booted into a terminal even >> and tried to get it to start from there. I get an error that says >> "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." This seems strange >> to me since Gnome and XFCE will run. >> >> Mandriva One which uses KDE 4.1 will also run on this same computer. >> >> Any idea what the problem might be or why the Nvidia drivers are ok for >> everything I've tried except KDE on Ubuntu? I would prefer to run KDE. >> >> Eric > > I have both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu 8.10 installed. It could be that you are > missing some KDE components, which may explain why it won't start. I've just > fires up Kubuntu, and there is a list of my installed KDE packages below. > > kdebase-bin > kdebase-data > kdebase-plasma > kdebase-runtime > kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 > kdebase-runtime-data > kdebase-runtime-data-common > kdebase-workspace-bin > kdebase-workspace-data > kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 > kdebluetooth > kdegraphics-strigi-plugins > kde-icons-oxygen > kdelibs4c2a > kdelibs5 > kdelibs5-data > kdelibs-bin > kdelibs-data > kdemultimedia-kio-plugins > kdepassword > kdepim-kresources > kdepimlibs5 > kdepimlibs-data > kdepim-strigi-plugins > kdepim-wizards > kdeplasma-addons > kdeplasma-addons-data > kdeplasma-addons-libs4 > kde-printer-applet > kdesudo > kde-window-manager > kde-zeroconf > kdf > kdm (may not need that, as you have gdm as display manager) > > All the best. > > Nigel. > Thanks Nigel. I'll check to see if I have this stuff installed. Eric From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Sun Dec 21 15:45:31 2008 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:45:31 +0100 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812211645.31062.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Sunday 21 December 2008 16:23, Eric wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Sunday 21 December 2008 13:17, Eric wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed and I assume XFCE was installed when I > >> installed Ubuntu. They both start and run fine on my PC. I also > >> installed KDE. KDE will not start. I have booted into a terminal even > >> and tried to get it to start from there. I get an error that says > >> "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." This seems strange > >> to me since Gnome and XFCE will run. > >> > >> Mandriva One which uses KDE 4.1 will also run on this same computer. > >> > >> Any idea what the problem might be or why the Nvidia drivers are ok for > >> everything I've tried except KDE on Ubuntu? I would prefer to run KDE. > >> > >> Eric > > > > I have both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu 8.10 installed. It could be that you are > > missing some KDE components, which may explain why it won't start. I've > > just fires up Kubuntu, and there is a list of my installed KDE packages > > below. > > > > kdebase-bin > > kdebase-data > > kdebase-plasma > > kdebase-runtime > > kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 > > kdebase-runtime-data > > kdebase-runtime-data-common > > kdebase-workspace-bin > > kdebase-workspace-data > > kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 > > kdebluetooth > > kdegraphics-strigi-plugins > > kde-icons-oxygen > > kdelibs4c2a > > kdelibs5 > > kdelibs5-data > > kdelibs-bin > > kdelibs-data > > kdemultimedia-kio-plugins > > kdepassword > > kdepim-kresources > > kdepimlibs5 > > kdepimlibs-data > > kdepim-strigi-plugins > > kdepim-wizards > > kdeplasma-addons > > kdeplasma-addons-data > > kdeplasma-addons-libs4 > > kde-printer-applet > > kdesudo > > kde-window-manager > > kde-zeroconf > > kdf > > kdm (may not need that, as you have gdm as display manager) > > > > All the best. > > > > Nigel. > > Thanks Nigel. I'll check to see if I have this stuff installed. > > > Eric I had stopped scrolling down on Synaptic, when I hit send, and now see a bunch more packages. Most are individual KDE apps, but I also see the following. kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop Bear in mind that this is on my Kubuntu 8.10 install, and I havn't tried installing KDE on the Ubuntu 8.10, as I want to leave it as original as possible, for the odd times that I try to help out with sound related problems. I'll have to fire up Ubuntu 8.10, and see if the same KDE packages are available as I listed above, including the first lot I posted. All the best. Nigel. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 21 15:49:35 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:49:35 -0600 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812210716u3ac949c5v149263efbd148071@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812210716u3ac949c5v149263efbd148071@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494E658F.6090708@swbell.net> > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Ray Burke wrote: > >> I have been told by all 4 who supply the stick (telstra,DoDo,optus and 3) >> for the prepaid broadband that is not compatable for linux, so what your >> response >> to that, by just changing the PPPd(how?) will solve this problem, as dont >> want to comit >> not knowing if I cant connect?????? In our experience [ Good ol' USofA and ATT, Sprint, et.al. ] the usb stick devices suck for connectivity. The only ones we've had any luck with are either the PCMCIA or PCExpress ones. You can buy adapter cards to use them in desktop machines, we did. We even have a USB adapter to use our PCExpress with our Eeepc's. [ no PCMCIA or PCExpress slots ] -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 21 16:06:37 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:06:37 +0200 Subject: DVD authoring question Message-ID: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> I downloaded a [legitimate] free movie in wmv format and want to convert it so I can burn it to DVD and watch it on my TV. I tried using ffmpeg with: ffmpeg -i name_of_file.wmv -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 name_of_file.mpg but although I got a file which is playable on my computer it won't play on our [TV] DVD player. What must I do to get it to play on a regular DVD player? Blessings, Nigel From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 21 16:46:23 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:46:23 -0600 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494E72DF.5060904@swbell.net> Knapp wrote: > I found this for making a ram disk. > http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html > > So then the next step is to see what needs to be on that ram disk. Any > ideas anyone? > Anything that is loaded with the load of FF would be good, I would think. > Bin and sbin? > Lib? (way to big!!) maybe just some of it? > lib32? > lib64? > > All this talk of ramdisks reminded me of something I did back in the dark ages of computers. I had a Leading Edge 8088XT [ 12MHz in Turbo mode ]. The memory was maxed out but I found something called a Rampat board [ an AT add on board with four memory slots ]. I had 100 meg of ram on it [ still got it around here somewhere ]. The computer couldn't access it directly, even with Himem, so I used it as a ramdisk. My menu.bat would copy the entire program over to the ramdisk [ remember - this was back in the days when most programs fit on a 5.25 floppy - and they didn't spread bits and pieces all over the hard drive ] and execute it from there. Those OLD programs would fairly fly. Games were a _lot_ more fun. On exit the bat file would copy any changed files back to the hard drive and remove the program from the ramdisk ready for the next program. At a guess I think using ramdisk doubled, or even tripled, the speed of program execution for programs that required a lot of disk read/write. It would be a great idea if someone could make a board like that old Rampat board for modern memory. OR, if you can afford one, use one of the new _very_ large SD cards. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 16:49:56 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:49:56 +0200 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494E73B4.6020206@gmail.com> Knapp wrote: > I found this for making a ram disk. > http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html > > So then the next step is to see what needs to be on that ram disk. Any > ideas anyone? > Anything that is loaded with the load of FF would be good, I would think. > Bin and sbin? > Lib? (way to big!!) maybe just some of it? > lib32? > lib64? > i read the link posted before in this thread, if u use squashfs fro the ram disk, it gets compressed a lot, and this would provide loads of space, and you'd still have a great performance boost, since decompressing and reading from a ram mounted squashfs system is very fast. firefox writes a lot to ~/.mozilla , i'm not sure how much exactly is written there, but if it's too too much, having that in ram is helpful, but you would lose ur new bookmarks and history with every shutdown -- Willy K. 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Check your DVD player manual for media compatibility. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sun Dec 21 18:17:00 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:17:00 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812211917.00623.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> On Sunday 21 December 2008 09:49:20 Nils Kassube wrote: > karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be wrote: > > Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... > > I have the following problem. > > Kontact crasches each time when i startup. > > > > This is what i get; > > Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT > > Maybe there is a problem with the configuration file for kontact. Take a > look at the directory "$HOME/.kde/share/config". There should be a > file "kontactrc". Move that file to another location (e.g. your home > directory) as a backup in case there is some valuable setting in that > file. 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Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.cda Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.ogg Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav Also, there were Lambchop - 02 - Alumni Lawn.cda .ogg .wav and, Lambchop - 03 - Burly & Johnson.cda .ogg .wav > use file command on one of the files on the DVD, something like this > "file /media/cdrom0/mystrangesoundfile.wav". These are my attempts and the results: /dev/sdc1: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/sdc1' (No such file or directory) steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/scd1/Lamchop - 01 - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav /media/scd1/Lamchop: ERROR: cannot open `/media/scd1/Lamchop' (No such file or directory) file /media/scd1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav /dev/stdin: ASCII text 01: ERROR: cannot open `01' (No such file or directory) file /media/scd1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav /dev/stdin: ASCII text The: ERROR: cannot open `The' (No such file or directory) Man: ERROR: cannot open `Man' (No such file or directory) Who: ERROR: cannot open `Who' (No such file or directory) Loved: ERROR: cannot open `Loved' (No such file or directory) steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/themanwholovedbeer.wav /media/cdrom1/themanwholovedbeer.wav: ERROR: cannot open `/media/cdrom1/themanwh olovedbeer.wav' (No such file or directory) steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav /media/cdrom1/The: ERROR: cannot open `/media/cdrom1/The' (No such file or direc tory) Man: ERROR: cannot open `Man' (No such file or directory) Who: ERROR: cannot open `Who' (No such file or directory) Loved: ERROR: cannot open `Loved' (No such file or directory) Beer.wav: ERROR: cannot open `Beer.wav' (No such file or directory) steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/The_Who_Loved_Beer.wav /media/cdrom1/The_Who_Loved_Beer.wav: ERROR: cannot open `/media/cdrom1/The_Who_ Loved_Beer.wav' (No such file or directory) I included every attempt. >ure file: > $ file Angels\ Chill\ Trance\ Essentials\ B.jpg > Angels Chill Trance Essentials B.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 ?? > What programs have you tried to play the files with? I tried Amarok and VLC. Steven From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:18:30 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:18:30 +0100 Subject: booting to ram In-Reply-To: <494E73B4.6020206@gmail.com> References: <494E73B4.6020206@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Willy K. Hamra wrote: > Knapp wrote: >> >> I found this for making a ram disk. >> http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html >> >> So then the next step is to see what needs to be on that ram disk. Any >> ideas anyone? >> Anything that is loaded with the load of FF would be good, I would think. >> Bin and sbin? >> Lib? (way to big!!) maybe just some of it? >> lib32? >> lib64? >> > > i read the link posted before in this thread, if u use squashfs fro the ram > disk, it gets compressed a lot, and this would provide loads of space, and > you'd still have a great performance boost, since decompressing and reading > from a ram mounted squashfs system is very fast. > firefox writes a lot to ~/.mozilla , i'm not sure how much exactly is > written there, but if it's too too much, having that in ram is helpful, but > you would lose ur new bookmarks and history with every shutdown > > -- > Willy K. Hamra That could be avoided if we ran a script to update it at closedown. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:48:59 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:48:59 +1100 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: <200812211031.47182.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> <200812211031.47182.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: Lanzen I am not sure which to use either 3/telstra/DoDo/Virgin/optus/ Vodafone and this is why Iam asking to find out if any other have experienced the connection with these as live in Bendigo Asutralia????? ray> From: lanzenesi at gmail.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:31:46 +0100> > On Sunday 21 December 2008 07:27:09 Ray Burke wrote:> > > I have been told by all 4 who supply the stick (telstra,DoDo,optus and> > 3)for the prepaid broadband that is not compatable for linux, so what your> > response to that, by just changing the PPPd(how?) will solve this problem,> > as dont want to comit not knowing if I cant connect??????> > What is the name of the stick you're planning to use?> > In intrepid I successfully use a huawei E169. It is recognized and easily set > up in kneworkmanager (or networkmanager applet in gnome) as new connection -> > Broad Band. > > You may also use utmsmon in Hardy. Also wvdial, of course, works.> > 3 works here (Italy). I'm using a different provider, but people say it works > fine.> > -- > lanzen> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:53:29 2008 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:53:29 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <200812211645.31062.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> <200812211645.31062.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <494E9EB9.6000704@gmail.com> Nigel Henry wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 16:23, Eric wrote: >> Nigel Henry wrote: >>> On Sunday 21 December 2008 13:17, Eric wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed and I assume XFCE was installed when I >>>> installed Ubuntu. They both start and run fine on my PC. I also >>>> installed KDE. KDE will not start. I have booted into a terminal even >>>> and tried to get it to start from there. I get an error that says >>>> "Nvidia OpenGL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." This seems strange >>>> to me since Gnome and XFCE will run. >>>> >>>> Mandriva One which uses KDE 4.1 will also run on this same computer. >>>> >>>> Any idea what the problem might be or why the Nvidia drivers are ok for >>>> everything I've tried except KDE on Ubuntu? I would prefer to run KDE. >>>> >>>> Eric >>> I have both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu 8.10 installed. It could be that you are >>> missing some KDE components, which may explain why it won't start. I've >>> just fires up Kubuntu, and there is a list of my installed KDE packages >>> below. >>> >>> kdebase-bin >>> kdebase-data >>> kdebase-plasma >>> kdebase-runtime >>> kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 >>> kdebase-runtime-data >>> kdebase-runtime-data-common >>> kdebase-workspace-bin >>> kdebase-workspace-data >>> kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 >>> kdebluetooth >>> kdegraphics-strigi-plugins >>> kde-icons-oxygen >>> kdelibs4c2a >>> kdelibs5 >>> kdelibs5-data >>> kdelibs-bin >>> kdelibs-data >>> kdemultimedia-kio-plugins >>> kdepassword >>> kdepim-kresources >>> kdepimlibs5 >>> kdepimlibs-data >>> kdepim-strigi-plugins >>> kdepim-wizards >>> kdeplasma-addons >>> kdeplasma-addons-data >>> kdeplasma-addons-libs4 >>> kde-printer-applet >>> kdesudo >>> kde-window-manager >>> kde-zeroconf >>> kdf >>> kdm (may not need that, as you have gdm as display manager) >>> >>> All the best. >>> >>> Nigel. >> Thanks Nigel. I'll check to see if I have this stuff installed. >> >> >> Eric > > I had stopped scrolling down on Synaptic, when I hit send, and now see a bunch > more packages. Most are individual KDE apps, but I also see the following. > > kubuntu-artwork-usplash > kubuntu-default-settings > kubuntu-desktop > > Bear in mind that this is on my Kubuntu 8.10 install, and I havn't tried > installing KDE on the Ubuntu 8.10, as I want to leave it as original as > possible, for the odd times that I try to help out with sound related > problems. > > I'll have to fire up Ubuntu 8.10, and see if the same KDE packages are > available as I listed above, including the first lot I posted. I had tried to run Miro and it would open and then immediately close. When I ran it from the command line it gave me the same error I mentioned above,"Nvidia Open GL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run" I uninstalled the Nvidia drivers when I saw that. KDE now boots. I haven't tried Gnome or XFCE or Miro yet. I still thinks it's interesting that Gnome and XFCE would run while KDE wouldn't. Eric > > All the best. > > Nigel. > > > From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 19:56:28 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:56:28 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <5a1f6bd00812201603i4ac41195r7a320b2911c78765@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812211156v3f25bddcp1942f3c04ccb4895@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Jonas Norlander wrote: > There is a Quicklaunch plasmoid if you don't mind compile it yourself. > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickLauncher+Applet?content=78061 Thanks! -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 20:09:59 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:09:59 -0500 Subject: DVD authoring question In-Reply-To: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> References: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I downloaded a [legitimate] free movie in wmv format and want to convert it so I can burn it to > DVD and watch it on my TV. > > I tried using ffmpeg with: > ffmpeg -i name_of_file.wmv -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 name_of_file.mpg > > but although I got a file which is playable on my computer it won't play on our [TV] DVD player. > > What must I do to get it to play on a regular DVD player? You didn't mention that you converted the resulting MPEG into VOB files and such in the VIDEO_TS directory. This is the file, index and menu format that most DVD players are looking for. Haven't done this in about a year. At that time, qdvdauthor was the best. I also tried devede and another program whose name escapes me at this time. devede was the easiest, but qdvdauthor the most mature. A lot may have changed since then. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 20:23:41 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:23:41 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812211340.01300.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812202220.28712.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812211340.01300.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812211223h1920b3a2v7d2b3773f866d47a@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > >> >> Have you run the "file" command on the files on the CD? Do that and >> >> perhaps it will tell you what kind of file/codec it is. > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.cda > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.ogg > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > > Also, there were Lambchop - 02 - Alumni Lawn.cda .ogg .wav and, > Lambchop - 03 - Burly & Johnson.cda .ogg .wav > >> use file command on one of the files on the DVD, something like this >> "file /media/cdrom0/mystrangesoundfile.wav". > > These are my attempts and the results: > > /dev/sdc1: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/sdc1' (No such file or directory) > steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/scd1/Lamchop - 01 - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > /media/scd1/Lamchop: ERROR: cannot open `/media/scd1/Lamchop' (No such file or > directory) > file /media/scd1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > /dev/stdin: ASCII text > 01: ERROR: cannot open `01' (No such file or directory) > file /media/scd1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > /dev/stdin: ASCII text > The: ERROR: cannot open `The' (No such file or directory) > Man: ERROR: cannot open `Man' (No such file or directory) > Who: ERROR: cannot open `Who' (No such file or directory) > Loved: ERROR: cannot open `Loved' (No such file or directory) > > steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/themanwholovedbeer.wav > /media/cdrom1/themanwholovedbeer.wav: ERROR: cannot open > `/media/cdrom1/themanwh > olovedbeer.wav' (No such file or directory) > steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > /media/cdrom1/The: ERROR: cannot open `/media/cdrom1/The' (No such file or > direc tory) > Man: ERROR: cannot open `Man' (No such file or directory) > Who: ERROR: cannot open `Who' (No such file or directory) > Loved: ERROR: cannot open `Loved' (No such file or directory) > Beer.wav: ERROR: cannot open `Beer.wav' (No such file or directory) > steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/cdrom1/The_Who_Loved_Beer.wav > /media/cdrom1/The_Who_Loved_Beer.wav: ERROR: cannot open > `/media/cdrom1/The_Who_ > Loved_Beer.wav' (No such file or directory) > > I included every attempt. Command line programs can't handle file and directory names with spaces. Use either quotes: file "/media/scd1/Lamchop - 01 - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav" or the backslash (sometimes called the escape character) to let it know the spaces are literal, and not separating parts of the command, like this: file /media/scd1/Lamchop\ \-\ 01\ \-\ The\ Man\ Who\ Loved\ Beer.wav Are you familiar with bash-completion, and using the tab key to type things for you? If you use bash-completion to fill in the file name for you, it will add the appropriate escape characters for you. > >>ure file: >> $ file Angels\ Chill\ Trance\ Essentials\ B.jpg >> Angels Chill Trance Essentials B.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 > > ?? He was giving you an example (using escape characters) and the result. > >> What programs have you tried to play the files with? > > I tried Amarok and VLC. vlc should play all of those formats if the files aren't defective. Amarok should at least play cda, wav and ogg files out of the box, and mp3 with the appropriate plugin. > -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Dec 21 20:27:47 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:27:47 +0200 Subject: DVD authoring question In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> References: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494EA6C3.6060102@prayingforisrael.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Nigel Ridley > wrote: >> I downloaded a [legitimate] free movie in wmv format and want to convert it so I can burn it to >> DVD and watch it on my TV. >> >> I tried using ffmpeg with: >> ffmpeg -i name_of_file.wmv -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 name_of_file.mpg >> >> but although I got a file which is playable on my computer it won't play on our [TV] DVD player. >> >> What must I do to get it to play on a regular DVD player? > > You didn't mention that you converted the resulting MPEG into VOB > files and such in the VIDEO_TS directory. This is the file, index and > menu format that most DVD players are looking for. > > Haven't done this in about a year. At that time, qdvdauthor was the > best. I also tried devede and another program whose name escapes me > at this time. devede was the easiest, but qdvdauthor the most mature. > A lot may have changed since then. > > > I just tried DeVeDe and it produced a .iso image - is that right? Blessings, Nigel From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Sun Dec 21 20:29:34 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:29:34 +0000 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <200812191314.09156.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <200812191314.09156.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <494EA72E.9050308@candt.waitrose.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday 19 December 2008, alan c wrote: >> At home with a vigor router, it worked ok. Relief. However, on >> location (a long way away!) when setting up the gifted machine (ssh >> server machine) the tests did not work. Two days spent, wasted, with >> lots of tests and research. I now find that quite a few routers do not >> allow such (test) connections using a full internet IP address to a >> machine located within its LAN. I finally had to use an independent >> internet connection (via a mobile phone in fact) for final tests, >> before I travelled back home. > > Most routers will allow you to set this up. > > You will ssh to the address of the router on a specific port (I wouldn't use > 22, use something like 12000+ > > The router will see the incoming on that port and pass the incoming off to any > machine you choose. In this case, only the one machine but you still need > to specify it. On a multimachine network, you can pass the ssh to one > machine and then ssh to others if need be. > > You might also want to set up a domain name with dyndns (free) so you can > always find her machine. You can probably tell the router to handle the > dyndns too. Most routers will do that. yes thank you. For the record, I can verify that at least one particular router does not play ball from inside its LAN: NETGEAR DG834GT 108 Mbps Super G Wireless ADSL Router -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 20:32:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:32:18 -0500 Subject: re modem usb stick prepaid broadband In-Reply-To: <494E658F.6090708@swbell.net> References: <5a1f6bd00812201536sba84030k1fc656fa90ece2e4@mail.gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812210716u3ac949c5v149263efbd148071@mail.gmail.com> <494E658F.6090708@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812211232l5249a3f4o9693d9aeee9716c8@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> > In our experience [ Good ol' USofA and ATT, Sprint, et.al. ] the usb > stick devices suck for connectivity. The only ones we've had any luck > with are either the PCMCIA or PCExpress ones. You can buy adapter cards > to use them in desktop machines, we did. We even have a USB adapter to > use our PCExpress with our Eeepc's. [ no PCMCIA or PCExpress slots ] I have had good luck with the Verizon USB stick and the eee, using ubuntu-eee 8.04 and gnome-ppp and pppd. Your mileage may vary. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 20:35:17 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:35:17 -0500 Subject: DVD authoring question In-Reply-To: <494EA6C3.6060102@prayingforisrael.net> References: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> <494EA6C3.6060102@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812211235q46798f26x2b745e12c001aa68@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just tried DeVeDe and it produced a .iso image - is that right? Probably. I haven't used it in over a year. The ISO probably contains the VIDEO_TS structure. -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From tuxebi at gmx.de Sun Dec 21 22:19:26 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:19:26 +0100 Subject: DVD authoring question In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812211235q46798f26x2b745e12c001aa68@mail.gmail.com> References: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> <494EA6C3.6060102@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211235q46798f26x2b745e12c001aa68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Nigel Ridley > wrote: >> I just tried DeVeDe and it produced a .iso image - is that right? > > Probably. I haven't used it in over a year. The ISO probably > contains the VIDEO_TS structure. > which you can easily verify with isomaster, before burning. Kind regards Eberhard From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 21 23:08:22 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:08:22 -0500 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <494EA72E.9050308@candt.waitrose.com> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <200812191314.09156.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <494EA72E.9050308@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: <200812211808.22624.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 21 December 2008, alan c wrote: > yes thank you. > For the record, I can verify that at least one particular router does > not play ball from inside its LAN: > > NETGEAR DG834GT 108 Mbps Super G Wireless ADSL Router > -- I'll have to take your word for it... (no Netgear router here although I love their switches and other gear) But I'd be very surprised if it didn't.... They have to stay competitive. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 21 23:10:26 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:10:26 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812211340.01300.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812211340.01300.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812211810.26628.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 21 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.cda > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.ogg > Lambchop - The Man Who Loved Beer.wav > > Also, there were Lambchop - 02 - Alumni Lawn.cda .ogg .wav and, > Lambchop - 03 - Burly & Johnson.cda .ogg .wav Steve: Mplayer will play both .ogg and .wav files which are both audio files. Just run mplayer against the files. mplayer /media/cdrom0/Lambchop\ -\ The\ Man\ Who\ Loved\ Beer.wav From jjesse at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 00:24:31 2008 From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:24:31 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200812202213.08321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Knapp wrote: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Steven Vollom > wrote: > > On Saturday 20 December 2008 7:05:40 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > >> Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users > interfaces > >> would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the dice and > take a > >> dive into the unknown. > >> > >> I say this as a user (of KDE) and a developer (of unrelated projects). > >> There's a lot I would have done differently with KDE4 but overall I > applaud > >> the chutzpah of the project. Interesting times are ahead for KDE. > > > > As little as I know, I agree completely. Playing it safe in the comfort > zone > > is like swamp water. > > > > Steven > > I too think what the KDE team is doing is great but that is not to say > it could not be done better. When it comes to any problems with KDE4, > for me it is because of distros adopting the work before it is ready > to work in a stable full featured way. > > I still think that KDE4 might be ready for Kubuntu by the time a new > stable release is due out. > > For the Kubuntu Devs to enter into an agreement to give us a stable > KDE system and then back out is wrong, they broke their word to the > users. 8.10 should have been a stable KDE3 system and then they might > have thought about switching to KDE4. None of this is a fault of the > KDE dev team!! Innovation has a place and that place is not in the > slot of an expected and planed stable release. > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I am confused as to what you mean by a stable release? Are you confusing the terms Long Term Support (LTS) with stable? 8.10 and 8.04 were not expected to be LTS'd for Kubuntu. Don't know what the discussion for the next LTS is or what version # that would be. JOnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Dec 22 00:51:58 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:51:58 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <5a1f6bd00812201603i4ac41195r7a320b2911c78765@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494EE4AE.7090708@swbell.net> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/21 Art Alexion : > >> I'm one of those people who don't even like the "classic" Kmenu (or >> any Start menu actually). I loved katapult, and can live with its >> merger into alt+F2. What I miss is QuickLauncher. I can add >> launchers to the panel with KDE 4.1, but the icons are so big, they >> take up too much space. Is there a way to make them smaller so that I >> can fit two rows? I noticed with my 3.5 and 4.1 machines side by side >> that 8 launchers on the 3.5 panel take up the same space as one and a >> half take up on 4.1. >> >> > > There is a Quicklaunch plasmoid if you don't mind compile it yourself. > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickLauncher+Applet?content=78061 > > / Jonas > > Would be nice if it would install. Neither the general directions for installing a plasmoid nor the installation instructions that come in the file work. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Mon Dec 22 00:59:04 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:59:04 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc In-Reply-To: References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> andrew heggie wrote: > alan c wrote: > >>> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log >>> in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, >>> is there another program that's supported and just the same? >> >> >> I am just recently doing this for an elderly friend (88years , first >> PC......, wants to do shopping on tesco direct). > > It's for my father-in-law 86, he was going to buy a pc but his son had > windows virus problems and he's been put off. I wanted to give him a pc and > tell him not to worry about anything as he couldn't affect it. I've > installed kubuntu hardy with 3.5 on the gifted box, from a member of my > lug. It's p4 1.6G Gateway. It's just updating now and that's one of the > reasons I'm not keen on this full install, because it will receive a lot of > updates for programs he'll never use and I might have to access the > internet by a 3g modem as he hasn't broadband yet. I've stuck with Kubuntu > because I can use linux but am not at all competent with it. I've minded to > stick puppy in the cd tray and a usb stick and run from that, possibly with > no hdd. We were recently given a talk at a lug meeting by a chap that had > done something similar but used debian and cut it down himself. He also > configured some high contrast skins and changed system fonts to large > verdana. > > >> It is going quite >> well so far. My initial problems were related to the difficulty or >> maybe impossibility - of using my local LAN to do tests. The nearly >> final tests were to use the ful internet address of the target PC (ssh >> server machine) trying to log in to it, using my laptop (ssh client >> machine), where both machines were (conveniently) inside my own local LAN. > > This is going to challenge me, I've not even networked computers before > despite having up to four in the house. I'm using two routers, dhcp > disabled on one, on the same subnet which gives me wireless and 6 ethernet > ports. > > By full internet address do you mean something like > bill at nameofcomputer.fullipaddress:portnumber? I use bill@[full IP address] the name of computer is not needed if the IP is given. The port numbers are used differently , please see below near to the end. >> I am using vnc in a ssh tunnel, and non standard ports > > Could you pad this out a bit please? > > I'd like to know the order of doing things to make the ssh tunnel and then > run vnc whilst at home and then I guess I'll take the pc over at christmas! (I am not any expert, so if one reads this and can correct or add stuff, please do so?) your machine is the ssh client login for user 'bill' (his machine) is the ssh server make sure the target machine (bill's) has ssh server installed and that your machine that you will use to connect from has the ssh client installed (openssh-server, openssh-client that is) It is not essential to use keys that you specially generate - that is, public and private key pairs, but it is an advantage I think, particularly since you have both machines with you at present. I found note1 useful here. You can easily generate a key pair on each machine. The private key stays with its machine (in principle) and its public key gets copied to other machines that will talk to it. This applies to each machine in turn. The key pairs can be copied for reference to a usb stick of yours and kept by you in a safe place. I have not fully understood key pairs yet. The general technique of configuration and testing is to initially set up an ssh communication between the two machines. This can be done within your local network initially for test, then later over the internet. Ideally each machine should be allocated a fixed IP inside your LAN now and later also for bill's machine in his LAN so that you know what the IP are and they will not change in the middle of tests or whatever. Assuming that while things are only inside your own LAN, your client machine is 192.168.1.100 and that bill's machine (server) is 192.168.1.101 then from your machine use commands: ssh bill at 192.168.1.101 should get a sensible response probably a warning that the remote machine is unknown (no keys yet) and it is this or that fingerprint, and do you want to connect to it? If you accept, the ID key of the remote machine will be added to a file in your machine for reference. Note: the key I think may be different when seen across the internet (not sure). The real trick in this sort of situation is to be certain that the target machine really is the one you expect, and that in principle there is no third party interception at this initial stage. Inside your local LAN this is trivial. Once you know that ssh is working inside your lan, you can be more ambitious. Again, inside your LAN it is easy to get VNC working. I usually use kubuntu 8.04 but in this case I have been using ubuntu 8.04 (easy to have both as alternate sessions at login, anyway), so some apps might be ubuntu based, although I think they are also available in kubuntu. Set remote desktop (this is the VNC server) in bill's machine to allow others to control it, maybe with a password. Do not set to use encryption I do not think it is working yet, anyway you expect to use ssh and a tunnel so there is no need for yet more encryption. Do not set ask for confirmation - you may not want that level of interaction the other end. Then from your own machine: vncviewer 192.168.1.101 or maybe vncviewer 192.168.1.101:0 I think they both work for me. and you should connect to bill's machine inside your LAN. So now you have had ssh working and vnc working both inside your LAN. (exit or ctrl -c will close a process in a terminal if you need to) VNC expects to use port identities 5900 I think, and if you did not use any tunnel in ssh process, and if you were doing it all over the internet (not just inside your LAN) then you would have to somehow get through to port 5900 on bill's machine, which would be sitting behind a protective router at a remote location. However, if you use vnc with ssh tunneling, then the VNC stuff (activity for port 5900) is not visible at the router, only ssh stuff is visible, because it will be ssh protocols which will be sent to the remote (bill's) machine. Bill's router will still not let ssh activity through because it was certainly not expecting it. So you will have to configure bill's router to specifically allow ssh transmissions through and ensure they get sent from bill's router and on to bills actual machine, marked for attention of ssh server. I found trying to understand port forwarding tended to make my brain hurt, but I think I now grasp enough. I hope. The main port forwarding which affects (bill's) hardware configuration - his router - is the need for the ssh information to get through his router and get sent to bill's actual machine. Recall that bill's machine will be set with a fixed IP inside his LAN. It is conventional that ssh information is marked as using port 22 and this is where the action is expected by the server. However, it is not considered wise to actually use port 22 in most cases because the bad guys can see you coming too easily, and lots of bots will hit bill's routers port 22 and try to (unsuccessfully) connect. Choose a number above 1024 and below the maximum ports number and decide to change the ssh default port, both at your client end and also at the server end. An ssh config file will need a simple edit at each machine, client and server machines. Bill's router should be configured to accept your chosen port number in place of the more conventional port 22 of course. At this stage you are ready to connect using a ssh tunnel. In your client machine with both machines inside your LAN, use a terminal: ssh -vvv -L 5900:localhost:5900 bill at 192.168.1.101 (comment - the -vvv increases vobosity na dI found this useful. Not sure if -vvv is any better than -vv though) ( -L means tunnel forwarding in sonme way an dthje rest of it tunnels vnc, that is all I know just now). comment - across the internet this becomes: ssh -vvv -L 5900:localhost:5900 bill@[internet IP address] You should get a lot of response and then get to log in to bills machine. Now, for a good reason I cannot tell you, you need to open a new *different* terminal, leaving the original one alone, and type: vncviewer localhost This should result in you getting a graphic view of bill's display. Good luck, and don't panic! I have a lot of background information: note 1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto other: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990436 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004677 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1005634 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994365 http://ftp.sjtu.edu.cn/centos/3/docs/html/rhel-sag-en-3/s1-openssh-client-config.html http://maketecheasier.com/set-up-a-vnc-server-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/05/30 http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1806 http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1816 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/dtg/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/answers/vnc-thru-firewall-via-ssh.txt http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383053 http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/html/Secure-Shell/2008-06/msg00029.html http://linux.die.net/man/1/vncviewer http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial38.html http://aplawrence.com/Security/ssh.html http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/ http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ It does sound daunting at first, but I know it can be done, take heart! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:05:32 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:05:32 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 10:08:21 am Billie Walsh wrote: >> >> You obviously weren't there for the mayhem. It was pretty ugly. They >> called into question the parenthood of just about everyone at SUSE. >> There were more than just a few posters. There were a _LOT_. >> > > Another reason for them not to follow a user list, unfortunately :( > >> Besides a "majority" is only 51%. So, if only just over half the SUSE >> users don't use it.......... > ......the remaining 49% are irrelevant? Of course not, and nobody even suggested it. > With no real way to gauge this sort of thing, majority, minority, > plurality, quorum, etc become meaningless terms They are, but that doesn't alter the fact that if large numbers of users are screaming, something is very wrong. Sort of sounds like putting KDE4 into Kubuntu 8.10... fwiw, I rather like kickoff - the only thing wrong with it is that you shouldn't have to click on anything to go down a level in the menu. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:07:38 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:07:38 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <11298039.kxCPJhiGeF@cedar.serverforest.com> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: >> >> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user >> lists. They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to >> choose SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it >> on the SUSE users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and >> hate it. >> > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not > usually follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be > for user-to-user support.. What a pathetic argument - since when were developers not users? Developers not following a user list because they just don't have the time is understandable. Not following them because they're not relevant is shocking, if true. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:12:41 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:12:41 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <15582936.u80Bsxcifu@cedar.serverforest.com> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 4:00:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: >> I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into >> something for others to use I would like to have some sort of >> indication of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going >> in the direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I >> would take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of >> thing. If your a retail business and you stop listening to the >> customers needs and start dictating to the customer, well, there's >> another store just down the street. I've already seen many, at least >> threatening to, jump off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's >> another interface available. > > Unfortunately, that is a bad analogy as the 'customer' and 'retail > business' concepts do not really fit, It certainly does. Many of us in corporate life have had the whole concept of "customer service" drilled into us even when we don't have identifiable customers, and there's a good reason for that - the model works. > as each individual person who contributes (in > whatever capacity) to an open source project does so for their own > personal reasons, even in a project as large in scope as KDE. They are > not necessarily tied to 'customer service' if you will. They are invariably in it for _something_. Even if it's only personal gratification, where's the gratification in doing something that nobody wants? > Where/how do non-contributing users properly and sanely voice their > concerns where the developers can easily see them? It _has_ to be places like this, because the developers _can_ easily see them. Otherwise it's too awkward for the users. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:15:25 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:25 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3421428.jGRVCCcff5@cedar.serverforest.com> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users > interfaces would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the > dice and take a dive into the unknown. That's true, but the developers still have to be willing to listen to the users, and separate out the "I hate this because I hate change" complaints from the "I hate this because it's unintuitive, complicated, and is giving me repetitive strain injuries". More than anything else, the problem with KDE4 seems to be that there are NO developers who seem willing to talk to users in a forum like this. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:19:47 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:19:47 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200812202213.08321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <245996193.C3CPjSUFSY@cedar.serverforest.com> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> I still think that KDE4 might be ready for Kubuntu by the time a new >> stable release is due out. >> > I am confused as to what you mean by a stable release? Are you > confusing > the terms Long Term Support (LTS) with stable? 8.10 and 8.04 were not > expected to be LTS'd for Kubuntu. Don't know what the discussion for > the next LTS is or what version # that would be. I really wish people would stop talking about non-LTS releases as if they were testing platforms. That was NEVER Ubuntu's plan. All releases are supposed to be _stable_, and the reason we jumped on the bandwagon instead of sticking to Debian was that we were sick of the time between stable releases. The next LTS for Kubuntu should be in 2010, but there should be two more _stable_ releases next year. It would be kind of nice if they were... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:21:24 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:21:24 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D89AE.3090200@swbell.net> <200812202045.41571.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1299651.OzPIdIH6Bk@cedar.serverforest.com> Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat December 20 2008 7:11:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Is there _really_ such a thing as a "non-contributing user". > > My wife makes one ;) Really? If she complains about something to you, do _you_ do something about it (even if it's only to mention it here?). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:22:51 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:22:51 -0400 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812202220.28712.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9548657.NSQ0Bx7bSZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Have you run the "file" command on the files on the CD? Do that and >> perhaps it will tell you what kind of file/codec it is. > > I typed in file /dev/sdc1 and did not get anything. That's not a file, it's a device. -- derek From joelol75 at verizon.net Mon Dec 22 01:40:51 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Bulk] ssh and vnc In-Reply-To: <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: <494EF023.7000406@verizon.net> Have you tried NoMachine's NX? They have a free linux edition. You need to install the client, node, and server on the machine you want to control, and just the client on the other. Works awesome and there's no lag like in VNC. I've tried tightvnc vnc4, X over ssh (painfully slow), and now NX and NX is defiantly the fastest! Just and idea. Joel. BTW, the FreeNX in the repos is not as good (or as fast/feature full) but it's true GPL open source software as NoMachine's NX is not... and you'll have to goto their website to download the 3 .debs in the x86/x64 flavour you need. This link takes you right to the d/l page for linux. http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 From joelol75 at verizon.net Mon Dec 22 01:44:24 2008 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Bulk] ssh and vnc In-Reply-To: <494EF023.7000406@verizon.net> References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> <494EF023.7000406@verizon.net> Message-ID: <494EF0F8.7080409@verizon.net> Joel Oliver wrote: > Have you tried NoMachine's NX? They have a free linux edition. You > need to install the client, node, and server on the machine you want to > control, and just the client on the other. Works awesome and there's no > lag like in VNC. I've tried tightvnc vnc4, X over ssh (painfully > slow), and now NX and NX is defiantly the fastest! > > Just and idea. > Joel. > BTW, the FreeNX in the repos is not as good (or as fast/feature full) > but it's true GPL open source software as NoMachine's NX is not... and > you'll have to goto their website to download the 3 .debs in the x86/x64 > flavour you need. This link takes you right to the d/l page for linux. > > http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 > > BTW, you need to have SSH set up for NX to work, as it logs in using it. From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 01:26:41 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:26:41 -0400 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1483905.33dfLmMrCC@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be wrote: >> Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... >> I have the following problem. >> Kontact crasches each time when i startup. >> >> This is what i get; >> Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT > > Maybe there is a problem with the configuration file for kontact. Take > a look at the directory "$HOME/.kde/share/config". There should be a > file "kontactrc". Move that file to another location (e.g. your home > directory) as a backup in case there is some valuable setting in that > file. Then restart kontact - does it still crash? BTW: I can't check > it here because I'm not yet using KDE4. it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, because we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, ime). Then try starting that program on its own. -- derek From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 01:46:09 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:46:09 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812212046.09588.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Sunday 21 December 2008 20:05:32 Derek Broughton wrote: > fwiw, I rather like kickoff - the only thing wrong with it is that you > shouldn't have to click on anything to go down a level in the menu. IMO, all menus are more clicks than one should have to do for apps they use daily. Menus should only act as an archive for launching programs you rarely use. Launching a program should be a one click exercise. I suppose the "favorites" menu that opens with Kickoff is some acknowledgment of this, but it is still one click too many. The rest of Kickoff takes the too many clicks complaint to the absurd extreme. But that's just for me, and people who work like me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Dec 22 01:52:13 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:52:13 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <3421428.jGRVCCcff5@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <3421428.jGRVCCcff5@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <494EF2CD.3090705@swbell.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > >> Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users >> interfaces would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the >> dice and take a dive into the unknown. >> > > That's true, but the developers still have to be willing to listen to > the users, and separate out the "I hate this because I hate change" > complaints from the "I hate this because it's unintuitive, complicated, > and is giving me repetitive strain injuries". More than anything else, > the problem with KDE4 seems to be that there are NO developers who seem > willing to talk to users in a forum like this. > I wonder if it's true that the devs don't monitor lists like this. How could we, the disgruntled masses, ever know. After all, would you be willing to tell those that are very upset with KDE 4.x that your the guy/gal that did it? *<]:oD -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From claydoh at midmaine.com Mon Dec 22 01:52:39 2008 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:52:39 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <1299651.OzPIdIH6Bk@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812202045.41571.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1299651.OzPIdIH6Bk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812212052.39422.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sun December 21 2008 8:21:24 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > On Sat December 20 2008 7:11:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Is there _really_ such a thing as a "non-contributing user". > > > > My wife makes one ;) > > Really? If she complains about something to you, do _you_ do something > about it (even if it's only to mention it here?). > -- > derek Honestly, she has figured out everything that she has wanted to do on her own, she is not a heavy user, just email, web browsing, simple games and the like. So I do have it easy, really -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Dec 22 02:02:29 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:02:29 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812212046.09588.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812212046.09588.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494EF535.7020102@swbell.net> Art Alexion wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 20:05:32 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> fwiw, I rather like kickoff - the only thing wrong with it is that you >> shouldn't have to click on anything to go down a level in the menu. >> > > IMO, all menus are more clicks than one should have to do for apps they use > daily. Menus should only act as an archive for launching programs you rarely > use. Launching a program should be a one click exercise. I suppose > the "favorites" menu that opens with Kickoff is some acknowledgment of this, > but it is still one click too many. The rest of Kickoff takes the too many > clicks complaint to the absurd extreme. But that's just for me, and people > who work like me. > > That's why the Quick Launch applet is/was one of my favorites in KDE 3.x. The programs that I use everyday immediately available on the task bar one click away. -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Mon Dec 22 02:10:11 2008 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:10:11 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812212052.39422.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812202045.41571.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1299651.OzPIdIH6Bk@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812212052.39422.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <494EF703.4080601@ajinfosearch.com> >Clay Weber wrote: > . . . > Honestly, she has figured out everything that she has wanted to do on her own, > she is not a heavy user, just email, web browsing, simple games and the like. > So I do have it easy, really > > You're a lucky man. A lucky man. -- "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 02:27:18 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:27:18 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <3421428.jGRVCCcff5@cedar.serverforest.com> <494EF2CD.3090705@swbell.net> Message-ID: <11094774.ErV9kntTKK@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > I wonder if it's true that the devs don't monitor lists like this. It may not be true - but my complaint is that they won't actually discuss KDE4 with us, here, whether they're reading the list or not. > How > could we, the disgruntled masses, ever know. After all, would you be > willing to tell those that are very upset with KDE 4.x that your the > guy/gal that did it? *<]:oD Actually yes - I'm at a safe remove :-) But really, I think people would be a lot happier if we thought anybody was paying attention and really cared about our problems. -- derek From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon Dec 22 02:41:46 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:41:46 +0200 Subject: DVD authoring question In-Reply-To: References: <494E698D.7020508@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211209q2e91224co9e17709aa153a29c@mail.gmail.com> <494EA6C3.6060102@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812211235q46798f26x2b745e12c001aa68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494EFE6A.3060606@prayingforisrael.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Nigel Ridley >> wrote: >>> I just tried DeVeDe and it produced a .iso image - is that right? >> Probably. I haven't used it in over a year. The ISO probably >> contains the VIDEO_TS structure. >> > which you can easily verify with isomaster, before burning. > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > Thanks Eberhard - that was easy [using isomaster] - so yes, DeVeDe did the job just fine :-) Blessings, Nigel From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 22 03:56:20 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:56:20 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. ** RESOLVED ** In-Reply-To: <200812211810.26628.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812211340.01300.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812211810.26628.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812212256.20971.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Thanks Bruce. I have it now. Steven From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 22 07:25:39 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:25:39 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <1483905.33dfLmMrCC@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> <1483905.33dfLmMrCC@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812220825.40002.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, because > we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the > traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, ime). > Then try starting that program on its own. Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why you think kmail was the real culprit. Nils From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Dec 22 07:44:14 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:44:14 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > They are, but that doesn't alter the fact that if large numbers of users > are screaming, something is very wrong. Sort of sounds like putting > KDE4 into Kubuntu 8.10... A large number of users were complaining about the kcontrol. Now that KDE4 changed to a kubuntu-like control panel, you still hear complaints about the new control panel. People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining about that. One thing is certain: There will always be people complaining about everything you do or don't do. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 10:58:23 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:58:23 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad said... > Derek Broughton writes: > > > They are, but that doesn't alter the fact that if large numbers of users > > are screaming, something is very wrong. Sort of sounds like putting > > KDE4 into Kubuntu 8.10... > > A large number of users were complaining about the kcontrol. Now that > KDE4 changed to a kubuntu-like control panel, you still hear complaints > about the new control panel. > > People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE > pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining > about that. > > One thing is certain: There will always be people complaining about > everything you do or don't do. Well, we all know Linux offers choice. I don't think would be a bad thing to offer options instead of a single preferred app. For example, kcontrol or ; konqueror, or dolphin and firefox, and so on. Personally, I prefer krusader, though ;-) Of course, all these can be set in alternatives, but perhaps the arcane nature of alternatives is the problem. -- Cheers, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 11:09:14 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:09:14 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie Walsh said... > Clay Weber wrote: > > On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote: > > > >> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists. > >> They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose > >> SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE > >> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it. > >> > >> > > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not usually > > follow -user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for user-to-user > > support.. > > > I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into > something for others to use I would like to have some sort of indication > of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going in the > direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I would > take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of thing. > If your a retail business and you stop listening to the customers needs > and start dictating to the customer, well, there's another store just > down the street. I've already seen many, at least threatening to, jump > off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's another interface available. Devs out there will probably be familiar with agile techniques. There's a lot to be said for rolling out a limited edition, and then letting the users drive the development for the front end. (The users don't care, and should never be made aware of, what is going on behind the scenes.) I do this in the wild, daily, and find it the path of least resistance. In addition, when done, there are no surprises to the users. The worst you can do is develop a ton of stuff that changes existing processes and launch it in one go. -- Cheers, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 11:21:25 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:21:25 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200812211005.44548.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Lindsay Mathieson said... > > Users do not drive innovation. If it was left entirely to users interfaces > would *never* change. Sometimes developers have to role the dice and take a > dive into the unknown. Users can drive innovation; it's just a case of listening to them. Equally, they may not be aware of what they can have, so it's down to the devs to present the options. Just taking the time to do this can lead to amazing results that neither side envisaged from the outset. -- Cheers, Marc From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 22 11:57:53 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:57:53 +0100 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <494E9EB9.6000704@gmail.com> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> <200812211645.31062.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E9EB9.6000704@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric wrote: > > I had tried to run Miro and it would open and then immediately close. > When I ran it from the command line it gave me the same error I > mentioned above,"Nvidia Open GL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run" > on another note, what CPU are you using? Kind regards Eberhard From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 12:47:23 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:47:23 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, John L Fjellstad wrote: > People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE > pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining > about that. Gee, I never read any complaints about konqueror. I guess my obliviousness to users concerns qualifies me as a KDE4 developer.... Sorry, I couldn't resist that cheap shot. :^) -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 12:52:53 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:52:53 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812220452t6ecf7f51r8510b1c40e76ecd@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:09 AM, marc wrote: > (The users don't care, > and should never be made aware of, what is going on behind the scenes.) > How UN-open source of you... :^) -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 13:35:44 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:35:44 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Art Alexion wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, John L Fjellstad > wrote: >> People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE >> pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining >> about that. > > Gee, I never read any complaints about konqueror. I guess my > obliviousness to users concerns qualifies me as a KDE4 developer.... > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that cheap shot. :^) > > -- > > -- > artAlexion I think that is the funny part. The only complaints I ever heard were about the web browser not the file viewer! And what did the devs throw out? YES, the file viewer! -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 13:39:21 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:39:21 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: To the comment about the 8.04 not being a stable edition, that they ALL are stable. Yes, you are right but they still tend to not take chances until the long term is done and then they gut it and try new stuff. You even see this in the names that they pick, most of the time. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 13:40:01 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:40:01 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> <5a1f6bd00812220452t6ecf7f51r8510b1c40e76ecd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Art Alexion said... > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:09 AM, marc wrote: > > (The users don't care, > > and should never be made aware of, what is going on behind the scenes.) > > > > How UN-open source of you... :^) :-) Sorry, I meant: when using the app. -- Cheers, Marc From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 13:41:30 2008 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:41:30 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <200812211552.51743.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E5F5A.60008@gmail.com> <200812211645.31062.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> <494E9EB9.6000704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494F990A.30509@gmail.com> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Eric wrote: > >> I had tried to run Miro and it would open and then immediately close. >> When I ran it from the command line it gave me the same error I >> mentioned above,"Nvidia Open GL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run" >> > on another note, what CPU are you using? > > Kind regards > Eberhard > > I don't remember and I don't know how to check, other than opening the case. I tried uname -p and it said "unknown" It's an AMD Athlon running on an old Gateway. By the way, I was able to use Miro under KDE and I started Gnome just a few minutes ago so that I could run uname. This is without the Nvidia drivers. Eric From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 13:41:10 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:41:10 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Knapp said... > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Art Alexion wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, John L Fjellstad > > wrote: > >> People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE > >> pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining > >> about that. > > > > Gee, I never read any complaints about konqueror. I guess my > > obliviousness to users concerns qualifies me as a KDE4 developer.... > > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that cheap shot. :^) > > > > -- > > > > -- > > artAlexion > > I think that is the funny part. The only complaints I ever heard were > about the web browser not the file viewer! And what did the devs throw > out? YES, the file viewer! Yup, I couldn't work that one out either. -- Cheers, Marc From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Mon Dec 22 14:27:22 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:27:22 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: alan c wrote: > > (I am not any expert, so if one reads this and can correct or add > stuff, please do so?) You're expert enough to move me forward, thanks. > > your machine is the ssh client > login for user 'bill' (his machine) is the ssh server > > make sure the target machine (bill's) has ssh server installed and > that your machine that you will use to connect from has the ssh client > installed (openssh-server, openssh-client that is) All done I log in with: ssh -Y -l bill 192.168.xxx.ab and then his (fairly strong) user password. For his convenience I have set the machine to autologin for his username. > > It is not essential to use keys that you specially generate - that is, > public and private key pairs, but it is an advantage I think, > particularly since you have both machines with you at present. I found > note1 useful here. I'm not using keys yet, I hope that his account password is strong enough but I will investigate keys. > should get a sensible response probably a warning that the remote > machine is unknown (no keys yet) and it is this or that fingerprint, > and do you want to connect to it? If you accept, the ID key of the > remote machine will be added to a file in your machine for reference. > Note: the key I think may be different when seen across the internet > (not sure). The real trick in this sort of situation is to be certain > that the target machine really is the one you expect, and that in > principle there is no third party interception at this initial stage. > Inside your local LAN this is trivial. Once this key has been successfully negotiated (it has in my case) can the ssh be locked to this machine? > Again, inside your LAN it is easy to get VNC working. I usually use > kubuntu 8.04 but in this case I have been using ubuntu 8.04 (easy to > have both as alternate sessions at login, anyway), so some apps might > be ubuntu based, although I think they are also available in kubuntu. > > Set remote desktop (this is the VNC server) in bill's machine to allow > others to control it, maybe with a password. Do not set to use > encryption I do not think it is working yet, anyway you expect to use > ssh and a tunnel so there is no need for yet more encryption. Do not > set ask for confirmation - you may not want that level of interaction > the other end. OK this is where mine fell over using krdc as the client on mine and Krfb as the server on his. All seemed well, I sent the invitation from bill's received the poll on mine. I then Okayed the reply on bill's and typed the password on mine, at which stage everything hung until I broke the connection from mine. I'm updating the server software on his. > > Then from your own machine: > vncviewer 192.168.1.101 Again adept doesn't show vncviewer! I'm installing xvnc4viewer OK this hangs too so it looks like it's the server on bill that's playing up. I've upgraded to krfb kde4 on bill's and get a connection with vncviewer but the colours are all wrong. I need to find a remote desktop server that works. Also Krfb seems to stay resident in the systray. I need a commandline means of clearing it from the system. > > or maybe > vncviewer 192.168.1.101:0 > I think they both work for me. > > and you should connect to bill's machine inside your LAN. > > So now you have had ssh working and vnc working both inside your LAN. Not yet! I'll be back! Thanks Alan Andrew Heggie From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Mon Dec 22 15:12:08 2008 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:12:08 +0000 Subject: Installing KDE4 Message-ID: <20081222151208.73c69c7d@graham-desktop> I've tried to install the latest version of KDE4 (at least, I presume the latest versions are on the mirrors). The live disk runs OK, but when I try to install it from the live disk, the install freezes on a black screen. I have an amd64 processor in my computer and I've tried both 64bit and 32bit versions with the same result. I have tried downloading different files on different days, tried burning them at different speeds, and tried both CDs and DVDs (in case that makes a difference) with no effect. I have only 256mb of ram on this machine, which may be the problem: I'm planning on fixing this when the Christmas holidays are over, but I can't find on the webpage exactly what level of ram I need - but Ubuntu runs on 256mb ram, so do I *need* more ram to run KDE? Any advice or help would be gratefully received... -- Graham Todd From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Dec 22 15:27:32 2008 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:27:32 -0600 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <494FB1E4.6070309@swbell.net> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > > >> They are, but that doesn't alter the fact that if large numbers of users >> are screaming, something is very wrong. Sort of sounds like putting >> KDE4 into Kubuntu 8.10... >> > > A large number of users were complaining about the kcontrol. Now that > KDE4 changed to a kubuntu-like control panel, you still hear complaints > about the new control panel. > > People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). KDE > pulled out the file management part, and now people are complaining > about that. > > One thing is certain: There will always be people complaining about > everything you do or don't do. > > There's an old say, "You can't please all the people all the time." Sometimes I think it should be, "You can't please anyone any time." *<]:oD -- Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. From mlsoft at videotron.ca Mon Dec 22 15:30:43 2008 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:30:43 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <494F990A.30509@gmail.com> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <494F990A.30509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812221030.43603.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On Monday 22 December 2008 08:41:30 Eric wrote: > Eberhard Roloff wrote: > > Eric wrote: > > > >> I had tried to run Miro and it would open and then immediately close. > >> When I ran it from the command line it gave me the same error I > >> mentioned above,"Nvidia Open GL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run" > >> > > on another note, what CPU are you using? > > > > Kind regards > > Eberhard > > > > > > I don't remember and I don't know how to check, other than opening the > case. I tried uname -p and it said "unknown" It's an AMD Athlon running > on an old Gateway. > > By the way, I was able to use Miro under KDE and I started Gnome just a > few minutes ago so that I could run uname. This is without the Nvidia > drivers. > > Eric > > Check your machine with lshw a lot to read, do a lshw|more if will tell you all up to the serial number of each components... all without opening the case. -- Martin Laberge mlsoft at videotron.ca Tel:(418)521-6823 30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning... From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 15:42:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:18 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812212254.45648.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <5a1f6bd00812211223h1920b3a2v7d2b3773f866d47a@mail.gmail.com> <200812212254.45648.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812221042.24243.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Sunday 21 December 2008 10:54:45 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > Command line programs can't handle file and directory names with spaces. > > I thought that as a possibility and used an underscore for the blank spaces > on one effort. That isn't the same. In Linux, an underscore is a valid file name character, so "this file.jpg" and "this_file.jpg" are different files and can co-exist in the same directory. Command line programs use spaces to separate or delimit parts of the command. If a file name has spaces, the command line program sees each part of the name as a separate part of the command. So, file this file.jpg is interpreted as if you are asking the "file" command for information on two separate files, "this" and "file.jpg". Please see my prior email on how to handle spaces in file names when using the command line. Hyphens can also cause problems on the command line because command line programs have options (usually called parameters or arguments) that start with hyphens. Usually (but not always), single hyphens precede single letter options (e.g. -h for help) and double hyphens precede 'word' options (e.g. --help for help). Your files, contained hyphens as well as spaces. > > > Are you familiar with bash-completion, and using the tab key to type > > things for you? > > I don't know what you are talking about. Bash completion is one of the nicest features of the command line. All you need to do is type a few of the starting letters of a file or command and hit the tab key and bash completion will try to type the rest of the name for you. So /m gives you a beep because it could be /mnt or /media /m will present you with the two choices /me gives you /media/ /media/s beeps /media/sc gives you /media/scd And so on. Once you get to /media/scd1/01\ Lambchop\ \-\ The\ Man\ Who\ Loved\ Beer. you notice that it puts the backslash (escape characters) in for you. Bash-completion is simple to learn, and you will come to love and depend on it. > > > >>ure file: > > >> $ file Angels\ Chill\ Trance\ Essentials\ B.jpg > > >> Angels Chill Trance Essentials B.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard > > >> 1.01 > > I have no understanding of the above entry. The person who wrote it was trying to show you an expample of using the file command. The first line: > >> $ file Angels\ Chill\ Trance\ Essentials\ B.jpg is the command you would type. Notice the backslashes preceding the spaces in the file name. The next line > >> Angels Chill Trance Essentials B.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 is the command out put or the answer the command gives you to the question you asked it. In this case, it tells you the file is a JPEG image using the JFIF standard 1.01. > > > vlc should play all of those formats if the files aren't defective. > > Just after I posted, I was able to get them to play. > > I am anxious to learn about bash completion. I know if I had a person > sitting by me while I learned bash, I would be able to understand rather > fast. I need an answer to a thought at that moment to put things together. > When responses are spread out, I have trouble getting back on focus. > Thanks for the extra information. Hope this helped. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Dec 22 15:22:10 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:22:10 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <5a1f6bd00812220447g4c52a757wf4611f6906d537d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87zliojkv1.fsf@fjellstad.org> Knapp writes: > I think that is the funny part. The only complaints I ever heard were > about the web browser not the file viewer! And what did the devs throw > out? YES, the file viewer! You haven't been around long, then... (Searching for Konqueror file manager sucks on Google, only looking at Konq suck as filemanager): http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=232733 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/244114.html http://www.nabble.com/Folder-preview-and-thunar-xfdesktop-integration-td15081392.html http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/57976-looking-different-file-explorer-suggestions-please.html http://markmail.org/message/abycnp2p7rwntd6q There is a reason why apps like Krusader and Dolphin started showing up. People just weren't happy with the dualrole of Konqueror. In fact, I don't think I remember seeing anyone say how good Konqueror was as a filemanager until Dolphin showed up in 3.5. Then again, complainers are usually the louders. I couldn't care less, frankly. I do all my file management in bash. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 16:23:29 2008 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:23:29 -0500 Subject: KDE Won't Start, Gnome, XFCE will In-Reply-To: <200812221030.43603.mlsoft@videotron.ca> References: <494E33CD.6010409@gmail.com> <494F990A.30509@gmail.com> <200812221030.43603.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <494FBF01.3060801@gmail.com> Martin Laberge wrote: > On Monday 22 December 2008 08:41:30 Eric wrote: >> Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> Eric wrote: >>> >>>> I had tried to run Miro and it would open and then immediately close. >>>> When I ran it from the command line it gave me the same error I >>>> mentioned above,"Nvidia Open GL driver requires CPUs with SSE to run" >>>> >>> on another note, what CPU are you using? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Eberhard >>> >>> >> I don't remember and I don't know how to check, other than opening the >> case. I tried uname -p and it said "unknown" It's an AMD Athlon running >> on an old Gateway. >> >> By the way, I was able to use Miro under KDE and I started Gnome just a >> few minutes ago so that I could run uname. This is without the Nvidia >> drivers. >> >> Eric >> >> > > Check your machine with > > lshw > > a lot to read, do a lshw|more if will tell you all > up to the serial number of each components... > > all without opening the case. > That's great to know. That command returned lots of information. Here's what it listed under CPU. *-cpu description: CPU product: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 4 bus info: cpu at 0 version: 6.4.2 slot: F2 size: 1200MHz width: 32 bits clock: 100MHz capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up Eric From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 16:27:26 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:27:26 -0700 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494FBFEE.1040502@gmail.com> karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be said the following at 12/20/2008 11:41 AM : > Hi, > > Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... > I have the following problem. > Kontact crasches each time when i startup. > > This is what i get; > Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT > > Thread 1 (Thread 0xb4af86c0 (LWP 6075)): > [KCrash Handler] > #6 0xb8020430 in __kernel_vsyscall () > #7 0xb5894880 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 > #8 0xb5896248 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 > #9 0xb5b3a795 in qt_message_output () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #10 0xb5b3a872 in qFatal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #11 0xb5b3a915 in qt_assert () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #12 0xb6f0408e in KDBusServiceStarter::KDBusServiceStarter () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 > #13 0xb78c196c in Kontact::MainWindow::MainWindow () from /usr/lib/libkontactprivate.so.4 > #14 0x0804acee in _start () > > Does anyone have an idea to resolve this? 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This is my usual approach with non computer literate people I help. I also edit his menus to reduce them and also lock the panels to stop the obvious 'lost my panel' problem. The admin level account can be called and something like bill-admin but would not be auto login. In fact I use ssh into such account, which gives me admin rihgts, but I still see th enon admin screen displayed,. I can use admin stuff at the shell level, such as updates (not difficult) >> It is not essential to use keys that you specially generate - that is, >> public and private key pairs, but it is an advantage I think, >> particularly since you have both machines with you at present. I found >> note1 useful here. > > I'm not using keys yet, I hope that his account password is strong enough > but I will investigate keys. ssh with password only is not recommended now I think. I see comments to disable the password use. >> should get a sensible response probably a warning that the remote >> machine is unknown (no keys yet) and it is this or that fingerprint, >> and do you want to connect to it? If you accept, the ID key of the >> remote machine will be added to a file in your machine for reference. >> Note: the key I think may be different when seen across the internet >> (not sure). The real trick in this sort of situation is to be certain >> that the target machine really is the one you expect, and that in >> principle there is no third party interception at this initial stage. >> Inside your local LAN this is trivial. > > Once this key has been successfully negotiated (it has in my case) can the > ssh be locked to this machine? Yes as I understand it >> Again, inside your LAN it is easy to get VNC working. I usually use >> kubuntu 8.04 but in this case I have been using ubuntu 8.04 (easy to >> have both as alternate sessions at login, anyway), so some apps might >> be ubuntu based, although I think they are also available in kubuntu. >> >> Set remote desktop (this is the VNC server) in bill's machine to allow >> others to control it, maybe with a password. Do not set to use >> encryption I do not think it is working yet, anyway you expect to use >> ssh and a tunnel so there is no need for yet more encryption. Do not >> set ask for confirmation - you may not want that level of interaction >> the other end. > > OK this is where mine fell over using krdc as the client on mine and Krfb as > the server on his. All seemed well, > I sent the invitation from bill's I do not understand this. I would expect you to send an invitation *from* your machine (not bills) to bills server machine intending to connect to bills machine? > received the poll on mine. I then Okayed the reply on bill's and typed the > password on mine, at which stage everything hung until I broke the > connection from mine. I'm updating the server software on his. you might find that the password facility has by default been turned off! >> >> Then from your own machine: >> vncviewer 192.168.1.101 > > Again adept doesn't show vncviewer! > > I'm installing xvnc4viewer > > OK this hangs too so it looks like it's the server on bill that's playing > up. > > I've upgraded to krfb kde4 on bill's and get a connection with vncviewer Great! >but > the colours are all wrong. The colours are very limited here too, probably only 24 colours, but it is ok to use and I have it as a lower priority. they probably can be configured, but will take bandwidth. >I need to find a remote desktop server that > works. If you can see (limited) colours then I suggest it is probably working now. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 16:48:55 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:48:55 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87zliojkv1.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <87zliojkv1.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 22 December 2008 10:22:10 am John L Fjellstad wrote: > Knapp writes: > > I think that is the funny part. The only complaints I ever heard were > > about the web browser not the file viewer! And what did the devs throw > > out? YES, the file viewer! > > You haven't been around long, then... > > (Searching for Konqueror file manager sucks on Google, only looking at > Konq suck as filemanager): > http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=232733 A guy using kde 3.1 (or older) who lost some files, many of the recommended alternatives are no longer in development. > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/244114.html A guy who loves konqueror 3.3, though he hated previous versions. The post is primarily why he likes konqueror. > http://www.nabble.com/Folder-preview-and-thunar-xfdesktop-integration-td150 >81392.html This is a wishlist for Thunar (the lame xfce file manager). If you want to get anything interesting done in xfce, you have to use nautilus, and then you are using gnome, not xfce. The thread was flagged by google because there was a comment by a guy who didn't like konqueror thumbnails. > http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/57976-looking-diff >erent-file-explorer-suggestions-please.html A guy who prefers windows 95 explorer to konqueror in 2004. Take it for what it's worth. > http://markmail.org/message/abycnp2p7rwntd6q This is a bug report that merely states: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95750 Summary: konqueror worst file manager ever created Status: UNCONFIRMED I have, myself, made the mistake of confusing google hit quantity as support for a proposition, without actually reading the cited pages. When I read posts from this list and others, I take into account, the quality and insightfulness of the post itself, i.e. was it well thought out? Does it make sense? Who posts it, i.e. is it someone whose posts I have read before and trust (or not)? What is my own experience? You really don't get the last the "who" from googling. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Mon Dec 22 16:53:23 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:53:23 +0000 Subject: [Bulk] ssh and vnc References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> <494EF023.7000406@verizon.net> <494EF0F8.7080409@verizon.net> Message-ID: Joel Oliver wrote: >> Joel. >> BTW, the FreeNX in the repos is not as good (or as fast/feature full) >> but it's true GPL open source software as NoMachine's NX is not... and >> you'll have to goto their website to download the 3 .debs in the x86/x64 >> flavour you need. This link takes you right to the d/l page for linux. >> >> http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 >> >> > BTW, you need to have SSH set up for NX to work, as it logs in using it. That sounds good, I like the idea of something that is forced to go via ssh. I tried vnc4server without luck. x11vnc works fine with vncviewer as client but I haven't got it running password protected. I'll try NX next. Andrew Heggie From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Dec 22 17:39:43 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:39:43 +0000 Subject: Terminal Commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494FD0DF.6030908@btinternet.com> Check your machine with lshw a lot to read, do a lshw|more if will tell you all up to the serial number of each components... all without opening the case. Re above: I've forgotten at least half of the console linux commands in the last 10 years since I retired, and there was a lot I didn't know then, and there must be a lot more now! can anybody point me at a reasonably complete list with one line function descriptions. Would be very useful ta muchly brian From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 17:40:40 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:40:40 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <1618190.qg38GIGNNU@cedar.serverforest.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> They are, but that doesn't alter the fact that if large numbers of >> users >> are screaming, something is very wrong. Sort of sounds like putting >> KDE4 into Kubuntu 8.10... > > A large number of users were complaining about the kcontrol. Now that > KDE4 changed to a kubuntu-like control panel, you still hear > complaints about the new control panel. I've been on this list as long as there's _been_ a list, and honestly, I don't believe a large number ever complained about kcontrol. There have, though been many complaints that things they _had_ in kcontrol weren't showing in the newer "System Settings" (which in hindsight were mostly not real problems, but the interface changed enough to confuse people - without any help being offered). > People complained about konqueror (jack of trades, master of none). > KDE pulled out the file management part, and now people are > complaining about that. Different people - and they have a hell of a point. If dolphin could actually do more file management than konqueror did, it wouldn't be a problem. If the dolphin kpart actually properly integrated into konqueror, it wouldn't be a problem. Explain to me why I can split the konqueror view pane, and open Dolphin in both sides, but I can't split the view pane _from_ the Dolphin kpart? That's just sloppy. > One thing is certain: There will always be people complaining about > everything you do or don't do. Another thing is certain - if you ignore the people who are complaining, the things they're complaining about won't go away. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 17:44:25 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:44:25 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <494FB1E4.6070309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1645266.yGf7PXB1MB@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > There's an old say, "You can't please all the people all the time." > > Sometimes I think it should be, "You can't please anyone any time." > *<]:oD In a desperate attempt to confuse everybody, I think it should be: You can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 17:49:18 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:49:18 -0400 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> <1483905.33dfLmMrCC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812220825.40002.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, >> because >> we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the >> traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, ime). >> Then try starting that program on its own. > > Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it > because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why you > think kmail was the real culprit. Sorry, I didn't see one - I do now. If it's complete, I don't think it's kmail, after all. I just tend to blame kmail because it's probably the most used kontact component and it's certainly the one that breaks most for me.. If that trace _isn't_ complete, look further. As it is, it does appear to be early in initialization, and perhaps no components have been started yet -- derek From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Dec 22 17:24:50 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:24:50 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <87zliojkv1.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> Art Alexion writes: > I have, myself, made the mistake of confusing google hit quantity as support > for a proposition, without actually reading the cited pages. > > When I read posts from this list and others, I take into account, the quality > and insightfulness of the post itself, i.e. was it well thought out? Does it > make sense? Who posts it, i.e. is it someone whose posts I have read before > and trust (or not)? What is my own experience? > > You really don't get the last the "who" from googling. So, you compain that you have never read a complaint about konqueror as a file manager, I send you a list of people complaining of konqueror as a file manager, so you dismiss the list? Right... My point is, if you're a developer, and you hear about these complaints year in and year out, sooner or later you either give up or think your code suck. So, you make the change that the complainers complain about (because most people who are happy with the solution probably won't be piping up), and then you get new complaints because you made the change that you got the feeling people requested in the first place. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 22 18:36:43 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:36:43 -0400 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> <1483905.33dfLmMrCC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812220825.40002.kassube@gmx.net> <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <3476432.6yk9Vp6eRD@cedar.serverforest.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, >>> because >>> we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the >>> traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, ime). >>> Then try starting that program on its own. >> >> Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it >> because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why you >> think kmail was the real culprit. > > Sorry, I didn't see one - I do now. If it's complete, I don't think > it's kmail, > after all. I just tend to blame kmail because it's probably the most > used kontact component and it's certainly the one that breaks most for > me.. > > If that trace _isn't_ complete, look further. As it is, it does > appear to be early in initialization, and perhaps no components have > been started yet hmmm. That said, it's probably still not a bad idea to try opening the individual komponents to see if any of them have the same problem. -- derek From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Dec 22 18:48:36 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:48:36 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200812220825.40002.kassube@gmx.net> <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812221948.37200.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:18 Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, > >> because > >> we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the > >> traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, ime). > >> Then try starting that program on its own. > > > > Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it > > because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why you > > think kmail was the real culprit. > > Sorry, I didn't see one - I do now. If it's complete, I don't think it's > kmail, after all. I just tend to blame kmail because it's probably the > most used kontact component and it's certainly the one that breaks most for > me.. > > If that trace _isn't_ complete, look further. As it is, it does appear > to be early in initialization, and perhaps no components have been > started yet > -- > derek I don't really know what is happening... I can start Kmail and Akregator,.. Kontact, Kadressbook and KOrganiser don't. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon Dec 22 18:49:42 2008 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:49:42 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <87zliojkv1.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad said... > Art Alexion writes: > > > I have, myself, made the mistake of confusing google hit quantity as support > > for a proposition, without actually reading the cited pages. > > > > When I read posts from this list and others, I take into account, the quality > > and insightfulness of the post itself, i.e. was it well thought out? Does it > > make sense? Who posts it, i.e. is it someone whose posts I have read before > > and trust (or not)? What is my own experience? > > > > You really don't get the last the "who" from googling. > > So, you compain that you have never read a complaint about konqueror as > a file manager, I send you a list of people complaining of konqueror as > a file manager, so you dismiss the list? Right... > > My point is, if you're a developer, and you hear about these complaints > year in and year out, sooner or later you either give up or think your > code suck. So, you make the change that the complainers complain about > (because most people who are happy with the solution probably won't be > piping up), and then you get new complaints because you made the change > that you got the feeling people requested in the first place. Ah! But then you've made the classic mistake of replacing functionality, instead of providing the option of the old and the new. Good devs understand this intuitively. I use such a case during interviews; it's scary how inventive some devs can be when justifying why providing users with options is a Really Bad Thing(tm). -- Cheers, Marc From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Mon Dec 22 18:57:16 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:57:16 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc References: <200812182041.25492.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> <494BD9C3.2070709@candt.waitrose.com> <494EE658.5090700@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: alan c wrote: >> >> ssh -Y -l bill 192.168.xxx.ab and then his (fairly strong) user password. >> >> For his convenience I have set the machine to autologin for his username. > > btw - important: have you considered making his usual account into a > non admin (non sudo) one? No, I've never done this for Kubuntu as the need to use sudo and a password seemed good enough. Using x11 I've tested it over vnc and I don't seem to be able to get root functions. > This is my usual approach with non computer literate people I help. I > also edit his menus to reduce them and also lock the panels to stop > the obvious 'lost my panel' problem. Yes that's what I'll do next. >> I'm not using keys yet, I hope that his account password is strong enough >> but I will investigate keys. > > ssh with password only is not recommended now I think. I see comments > to disable the password use. Surely you still need his login password even with keys? >> >> Once this key has been successfully negotiated (it has in my case) can >> the ssh be locked to this machine? > > Yes as I understand it OK this might be a bit like locking a wireless card's MAC address to the wireless access point, I'll have to investigate. > >> OK this is where mine fell over using krdc as the client on mine and Krfb >> as the server on his. All seemed well, >> I sent the invitation from bill's > > I do not understand this. I would expect you to send an invitation > from your machine (not bills) to bills server machine intending to > connect to bills machine? Not with the Krfb stuff bundled in 8.04.1. The sequence is: server sends invitation and generates a password. client accepts invitation server asks bill whether to allow connection client requests me for login password Then it conects >> >> I've upgraded to krfb kde4 on bill's and get a connection with vncviewer > > Great! > >>but >> the colours are all wrong. > > The colours are very limited here too, probably only 24 colours,  but > it is ok to use and I have it as a lower priority. they probably can > be configured, but will take bandwidth. > >>I need to find a remote desktop server that >> works. > > If you can see (limited) colours then I suggest it is probably working > now. Yes but it was generatining coloured blocks all over the screen, like one of thos widowing tutorials in gwbasic on and old amstrad! It's borked. x11server works well but I need a terminal open in both computers and I think bill's requires a reboot in order to allow another session. I need a script which can be executed from his desktop. NX is so slick, it installs from the debs and saves a connection icon on the client's (my) desktop. I'm not sure how I got the NX server running (a bit worrying, much like windows :-( ) it just did! However I cannot figure how to get bill's current display. NX uses different ports and a number of displays can be remotely connected but not the active desktop so far but it looks like it would if I could force it to open port 1000. Andrew Heggie > From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 22 19:03:55 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:03:55 +0100 Subject: Terminal Commands In-Reply-To: <494FD0DF.6030908@btinternet.com> References: <494FD0DF.6030908@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812222003.56191.kassube@gmx.net> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > I've forgotten at least half of the console linux commands in the > last 10 years since I retired, and there was a lot I didn't know > then, and there must be a lot more now! can anybody point me at a > reasonably complete list with one line function descriptions. Would > be very useful Do it yourself: for f in {,/usr}/{,s}bin/[0-9a-zA-Z]*;do n=${f##*/};whatis $n| grep -e "^$n (1)" -e "^$n (8)";done|sort|uniq|less This lists all commands found in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin on your machine. It may not be perfect and the builtin shell commands are not listed. Beware: Don't redirect it to your printer - that's several thousand lines if you have many packages installed. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 22 19:23:43 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:43 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <200812221948.37200.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812221948.37200.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200812222023.43160.kassube@gmx.net> Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:18 Derek Broughton wrote: > > Nils Kassube wrote: > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > > >> it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, > > >> because > > >> we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the > > >> traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, > > >> ime). Then try starting that program on its own. > > > > > > Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it > > > because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why > > > you think kmail was the real culprit. > > > > Sorry, I didn't see one - I do now. If it's complete, I don't think > > it's kmail, after all. I just tend to blame kmail because it's > > probably the most used kontact component and it's certainly the one > > that breaks most for me.. That makes sense. I remember Kmail crashes as well but that was long ago. > I don't really know what is happening... > I can start Kmail and Akregator,.. Kontact, Kadressbook and KOrganiser > don't. Then look for the configuration files for kadressbook and korganizer. It might be $HOME/.kde/share/config/kaddressbookrc and $HOME/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc but maybe there are others as well. Move those files away from the directory and try to start the individual applications. Nils From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 21:22:29 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:22:29 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 22 December 2008 12:24:50 John L Fjellstad wrote: > So, you compain that you have never read a complaint about konqueror as > a file manager, I send you a list of people complaining of konqueror as > a file manager, so you dismiss the list?  Right... Well you couldn't possibly have read the links before posting them or you wouldn't have posted them. > > My point is, if you're a developer, and you hear about these complaints > year in and year out, sooner or later you either give up or think your > code suck. So, you make the change that the complainers complain about > (because most people who are happy with the solution probably won't be > piping up), and then you get new complaints because you made the change > that you got the feeling people requested in the first place.   Yes, and my point is that if you can't afford scientific market research, you have to use tools, and that is to analyze the complaints according to coherence and reputation of the complainer. It may have been you who correctly pointed out that a lot of noise could come from very few people. There is nothing less accurate than an internet poll. So you do what you do with every other judgment you make; you do your best to consider the quality of the opinions. For example, I subscribe to a jazz list. There are people on the list who have introduced me to many gems, and whose tastes are similar to mine. There are others whose past recommendations caused me brain pain. In that sense, it isn't how many, but who is saying it. Likewise, someone I don't know is putting their recommendation in a context that I know I like, while others make positive comparisons to stuff I don't like. As people, we make these informed judgments all the time. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 21:25:18 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:25:18 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <1645266.yGf7PXB1MB@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <494FB1E4.6070309@swbell.net> <1645266.yGf7PXB1MB@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200812221625.18635.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 22 December 2008 12:44:25 Derek Broughton wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > > There's an old say, "You can't please all the people all the time." > > > > Sometimes I think it should be, "You can't please anyone any time." > > *<]:oD > > In a desperate attempt to confuse everybody, I think it should be: > > You can please some of the people all of the time, > and you can please all of the people some of the time, > but you can't please all of the people all of the time. I thought it was You can pick your friends, and You can pick your nose, but You shouldn't pick your friend's nose. 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If you don’t want to wait that long and you are a Kubuntu user just add the following ppa to your sources.list and upgrade your system: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main The interesting thing is that NVIDIA knew about this patch for at least one month and started to work around it in their drivers. That’s great as it shows that they care about KDE and want to improve the KDE experience. The bad is that they did not communicate that a custom patch to xorg is responsible for the problem. Neither in KDE’s nor in Ubuntu’s bug report there is a comment from NVIDIA. And that’s sad. With a little bit more communication the problem would have been solved much earlier. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 22:34:52 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:34:52 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: > For example, I subscribe to a jazz list. There are people on the list who > have introduced me to many gems, and whose tastes are similar to mine. There > are others whose past recommendations caused me brain pain. In that sense, > it isn't how many, but who is saying it. Likewise, someone I don't know is > putting their recommendation in a context that I know I like, while others > make positive comparisons to stuff I don't like. As people, we make these > informed judgments all the time. > And this is a great point, who's tastes are correct? It is obvious to you who's are better for you but not for everyone else, thus we have many choices in a good system. We also have a choice of distros and have picked this one because it has what we want and thus we don't like that to change. And we REALLY don't like it when the change is to something less functional. People hate change but they also always think the grass is greener on the other side. Sometimes it is and we need to be dragged over there but sometimes it simple is mud and we get dirty and mad at the dragger and want to go back. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 22:59:13 2008 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:59:13 +0200 Subject: Video Corruption Problems Solved In-Reply-To: <200812230754.35603.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812230754.35603.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49501BC1.80702@gmail.com> Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/?p=211 > > From the above link: > Good news to all Kubuntu and Fedora users. The cause for the video garbage > appearing whenever a new window is opened has been discovered. A custom patch > to xorg is causing the trouble. Now we can only hope that the distributions > will provide updates for xorg without this patch. If you don’t want to wait > that long and you are a Kubuntu user just add the following ppa to your > sources.list and upgrade your system: > > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main > > The interesting thing is that NVIDIA knew about this patch for at least one > month and started to work around it in their drivers. That’s great as it shows > that they care about KDE and want to improve the KDE experience. The bad is > that they did not communicate that a custom patch to xorg is responsible for > the problem. Neither in KDE’s nor in Ubuntu’s bug report there is a comment > from NVIDIA. And that’s sad. With a little bit more communication the problem > would have been solved much earlier. > wait a second! they actually knew what the problem was, and instead of either solving it from xorg, or notifying them about it, they worked around it?! lol i'm using the beta driver, the 180.xx one, i have no screen corruption, but lost the ability to hibernate, typing "sudo pm-hibernate" takes me to a black screen, where it hangs there. all in all, i might not switch to ATI after all, if, if nVidia keeps up it's good work lately. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Same here > all in all, i might not switch to ATI after all, if, if nVidia keeps up > it's good work lately. Really impressed with Nvidia's latest stuff. Particularly with VDPAU - its the only usable HD Video Acceleration API on linux and it works even better than their windows ones. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From wayward4now at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 23:35:59 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:35:59 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812201226.25829.claydoh@midmaine.com> <494D5CEA.90709@swbell.net> <200812201729.31594.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1229988960.6043.180.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 17:29 -0500, Clay Weber wrote: > Unfortunately, that is a bad analogy as the 'customer' and 'retail business' > concepts do not really fit, as each individual person who contributes (in > whatever capacity) to an open source project does so for their own personal > reasons, even in a project as large in scope as KDE. They are not necessarily > tied to 'customer service' if you will. I think that the point being made is that by being "assertive" one looks for the goals of others, as well as our own. So, compromise happens where everyone gets "some" of their needs met. The other point being made is that when compromise doesn't happen, that's "aggressive" behavior. Textbook. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From jjesse at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 23:43:15 2008 From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:43:15 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 Message-ID: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> Sorry replying on my phone I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go back to another question then what is the difference between a stable and non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude -----Original Message----- From: Derek Broughton Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:19 PM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Kmenu and KDE4 Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> I still think that KDE4 might be ready for Kubuntu by the time a new >> stable release is due out. >> > I am confused as to what you mean by a stable release? Are you > confusing > the terms Long Term Support (LTS) with stable? 8.10 and 8.04 were not > expected to be LTS'd for Kubuntu. Don't know what the discussion for > the next LTS is or what version # that would be. I really wish people would stop talking about non-LTS releases as if they were testing platforms. That was NEVER Ubuntu's plan. All releases are supposed to be _stable_, and the reason we jumped on the bandwagon instead of sticking to Debian was that we were sick of the time between stable releases. The next LTS for Kubuntu should be in 2010, but there should be two more _stable_ releases next year. It would be kind of nice if they were... -- derek -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 23 00:40:12 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:40:12 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812221042.24243.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812212254.45648.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812221042.24243.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812221940.12244.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Hope this helped. Dear Art, I am so very grateful. I just know that I will be able to learn this stuff, it is just no one has explained it as you have. Not even in the tutorials is it explained in a way I could grasp. I may read more into it than exists, but now it is starting to make sense. When you don't know the why of something, it doesn't take hold, at least in my memory. So when someone gives me code to paste into the command line, its structure is more or less confusing. If you don't know why to leave a space or not, you may not notice the space that is left when copying the code to the command line. So when you attempt to recall the instruction, you may leave out or include a space that changes the instruction. When you fail, it is learning failure, and confusion follows. Do you see why I love this forum? It is only here that a person seems willing to take the time to instruct those of us who are rocks, in a response time short enough for the memory to still be fresh. Perhaps it is because I have never had anyone to exchange conversation with realtime. By that, I mean, this forum is relatively quick to return help on a problem. Most forums you may wait a month before seeing a result. And as such, unless you have a great memory, it is hard to bring the original problem back, so that you can learn from the instruction. I wish I had a local friend that I could talk with about Linux and computers, someone who knew what they were doing. This forum is second only to that. I appreciate you all so much. Steven From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 01:07:22 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:07:22 -0500 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <200812222023.43160.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812221948.37200.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200812222023.43160.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1229994444.6043.196.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 20:23 +0100, Nils Kassube wrote: > Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:18 Derek Broughton wrote: > > > Nils Kassube wrote: > > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > > > >> it's hard to say without at least a little bit of a traceback, > > > >> because > > > >> we can't see which kontact component is crashing. Look at the > > > >> traceback, see what programs are involved (most likely kmail, > > > >> ime). Then try starting that program on its own. > > > > > > > > Well, the traceback was in the original mail. I didn't quote it > > > > because I could only see kontact mentioned. I'd like to know why > > > > you think kmail was the real culprit. > > > > > > Sorry, I didn't see one - I do now. If it's complete, I don't think > > > it's kmail, after all. I just tend to blame kmail because it's > > > probably the most used kontact component and it's certainly the one > > > that breaks most for me.. > > That makes sense. I remember Kmail crashes as well but that was long ago. > > > I don't really know what is happening... > > I can start Kmail and Akregator,.. Kontact, Kadressbook and KOrganiser > > don't. > > Then look for the configuration files for kadressbook and korganizer. It > might be $HOME/.kde/share/config/kaddressbookrc and > $HOME/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc but maybe there are others as well. > Move those files away from the directory and try to start the individual > applications. I thought kaddressbook hasn't gotten to the kde4 stage yet? -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 01:19:08 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:19:08 -0500 Subject: synaptic error Message-ID: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> I keep getting this: E: The package cache file is corrupted E: _cache->open() failed, please report. How do I fix it? Thanx, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 23 06:56:39 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:56:39 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? Message-ID: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I don't know if this is possible, however, since the purchase of my new monitor, I find myself always choosing MPlayer as my movie player, because I can change to aspect ratio to 16:9. My preference would be that whenever I wanted to play a movie on the computer, it would automatically open with MPlayer as the default movie player, and the default aspect ratio to be 16:9. I also think it would be attractive for people with different aspect ratios to be able to set their default settings to meet the needs of their particular monitor shapes. Can this be done? TIA. Steven From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 07:58:56 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:58:56 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> References: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Sorry replying on my phone > I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go back to another question then what is the difference between a stable and non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude I would say that unstable has known bugs that crash the system. Stable has no known bugs that can take out the system and perhaps all the programs are stable as well, IE not crashing. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 08:00:30 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:30 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Knapp wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> Sorry replying on my phone >> I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go back to another question then what is the difference between a stable and non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude > > I would say that unstable has known bugs that crash the system. Stable > has no known bugs that can take out the system and perhaps all the > programs are stable as well, IE not crashing. To add one other thing, being stable on one system does not mean it is stable. It must be stable across all systems that it is designed for. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 23 07:47:46 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:47:46 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221149.00550.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87zlioktr1.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Art Alexion writes: > On Monday 22 December 2008 12:24:50 John L Fjellstad wrote: >> So, you compain that you have never read a complaint about konqueror >> as a file manager, I send you a list of people complaining of >> konqueror as a file manager, so you dismiss the list?  Right... > > Well you couldn't possibly have read the links before posting them or > you wouldn't have posted them. I did. And the point was that people has been complaining about, even though you claimed you never read anybody complaining about Konqueror as a file manager. But then, if you are going to just dismiss the complaints, well... > Yes, and my point is that if you can't afford scientific market > research, you have to use tools, and that is to analyze the complaints > according to coherence and reputation of the complainer. What reputation? We're talking about the Internet. Now, someone like Art and Derek might be known here, but they are probably just a random guy on the KDE lists. Now, I personally am waiting for a call from President-elect Obama to help him with the economic crisis, especially since I've posted on the Economist forums, which make me eminently qualified to give an opinion, but that's because I'm an arrogant bastard. > It may have been you who correctly pointed out that a lot of noise > could come from very few people. There is nothing less accurate than > an internet poll. So you do what you do with every other judgment you > make; you do your best to consider the quality of the opinions. > > For example, I subscribe to a jazz list. There are people on the list > who have introduced me to many gems, and whose tastes are similar to > mine. There are others whose past recommendations caused me brain > pain. In that sense, it isn't how many, but who is saying it. > Likewise, someone I don't know is putting their recommendation in a > context that I know I like, while others make positive comparisons to > stuff I don't like. As people, we make these informed judgments all > the time. I agree. And I might listen to you and Derek and Knapp more than someone who just pop in here and give an opinion and disappear. But then again, I hang out here (even though I don't post much) so I 'know' you guys from your posts. A developer is probably hanging out at their developer and user lists (say KDE-developer and KDE-user or whatever), and might get a link to some random user lists where my name shows up. At that point, my opnion doesn't rank any higher than any other Joe Random poster. BTW. Happy Holidays everybody :-) -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Dec 23 07:49:08 2008 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:49:08 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812210045.02260.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <494D0A65.5020105@swbell.net> <200812201240.02208.claydoh@midmaine.com> <1451288.KQEUfVh5Cu@cedar.serverforest.com> <87bpv4lkmp.fsf@fjellstad.org> <1618190.qg38GIGNNU@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <877i5rxrez.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > I've been on this list as long as there's _been_ a list, and honestly, I > don't believe a large number ever complained about kcontrol. There > have, though been many complaints that things they _had_ in kcontrol > weren't showing in the newer "System Settings" (which in hindsight were > mostly not real problems, but the interface changed enough to confuse > people - without any help being offered). I've been on Debian lists, Slashdot... People complained that kcontrol gave too many options with too little organization -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 08:19:04 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:19:04 +1000 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <877i5rxrez.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <1618190.qg38GIGNNU@cedar.serverforest.com> <877i5rxrez.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812231819.10834.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:49:08 pm John L Fjellstad wrote: > 've been on Debian lists, Slashdot... People complained that kcontrol > gave too many options with too little organization I'd seen that one often as well -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you -- Pol From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 08:44:31 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:44:31 +0100 Subject: synaptic error In-Reply-To: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200812230944.31974.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 02:19:08 Ric Moore wrote: > I keep getting this: > > E: The package cache file is corrupted > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > How do I fix it? Thanx, Ric Don't know... I had the same yesterday evening. I updated and it seems fine now. -- lanzen From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 08:55:37 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:55:37 +0100 Subject: Strange permissions on mounted dvd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/12/20 Jonas Norlander : > Hi! > > I have installed Intrepid on a friends computer (trying to convert him). > But i have problem with the permissions on mounted dvd/cd. It looks to > be HAL related but i have no idea where to go from here. I hoping for > the community for a fast fix before he gives up and reinstalling > Windows XP. > > Permissions in /media before and after a DVD is mounted. Makes no > difference if i mount it with mount from a terminal or from dolphine. > > $ ls -l /media/ > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> cdrom0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom0 > > $ ls -l /media/ > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> cdrom0 > dr--r--r-- 30 4294967295 4294967295 3024 2008-08-02 11:17 cdrom0 > > See that strange owner and group id on the mountpoint? > > $ LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ > ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - > Easy Listening: Permission denied > ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/A Tribute To Abba (metal): Permission denied > > ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? 20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - > Easy Listening > ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? A Tribute To Abba (metal) > > No problems as root: > $ sudo LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ > total 76 > dr--r--r-- 2 4294967295 4294967295 2736 Jul 30 00:16 20 Golden Love > Songs Vol.1 (2007) - Easy Listening > dr--r--r-- 2 4294967295 4294967295 1576 May 24 2008 A Tribute To Abba (metal) > > Output from mount for the dvd: > /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,utf8,user=stefan) > > $ grep stefan /etc/passwd > stefan:x:1000:1000:Stefan Gjersvold:/home/stefan:/bin/bash > > $ groups stefan > stefan adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev users scanner lpadmin > admin sambashare > > I have searched the net and ubuntu bugs but no clues. I don't know > where to go from here. Has someone seen something like this before or > know what the cause could be? > > / Jonas > I was really hoping that someone had a solution or an idea how to "debug" this? / Jonas From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 23 09:18:34 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:18:34 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> References: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <200812231018.34768.kassube@gmx.net> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go back > to another question then what is the difference between a stable and > non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude I think you are mixing up Ubuntu and Debian. Debian has release branches named stable and unstable. Ubuntu doesn't have something like that. However there are some Ubuntu releases which get a longer support and those are called LTS (Long Term Support) releases. Nils From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue Dec 23 10:59:32 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:59:32 +0000 Subject: Terminal commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4950C494.6070306@btinternet.com> Do it yourself: for f in {,/usr}/{,s}bin/[0-9a-zA-Z]*;do n=${f##*/};whatis $n| grep -e "^$n (1)" -e "^$n (8)";done|sort|uniq|less This lists all commands found in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin on your machine. It may not be perfect and the builtin shell commands are not listed. Beware: Don't redirect it to your printer - that's several thousand lines if you have many packages installed. Thanks Nils did you write that script off the top of your head? got my brain going working out exactly what it was doing anyway. Shoved the output into a file for future reference. brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 23 12:26:55 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:26:55 +0100 Subject: Terminal commands In-Reply-To: <4950C494.6070306@btinternet.com> References: <4950C494.6070306@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812231326.55175.kassube@gmx.net> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > did you write that script off the top of your head? Not exactly :) > got my brain going > working out > exactly what it was doing anyway. OK, here is a description. I'm not sure which parts are bash specific: Loop for a list of all commands in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin which start with alphanumeric characters for f in {,/usr}/{,s}bin/[0-9a-zA-Z]*;do strip the directory from the command name n=${f##*/}; Get the one line description of the command whatis $n| Select only manual sections 1 and 8 grep -e "^$n (1)" -e "^$n (8)";done| get a sorted list without double entries and pipe the list through less for readability sort|uniq|less BTW: I think such a list isn't very helpful. I prefer the apropos command to search for a particular command. Nils From charioteer7 at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 14:45:01 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:45:01 -0500 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy Message-ID: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. Cheers and have a very merry, Geoffrey Bays From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Dec 23 15:56:08 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:56:08 +0200 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> > Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? > Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. > > We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. > > And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 - works out of the box. From rscrawford at mossroot.com Tue Dec 23 16:13:40 2008 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:13:40 -0800 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had some success with the EyeToy camera, so it's possible to use that one. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, though. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Geoffrey Bays wrote: > Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? > Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. > > We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. > > And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. > > Cheers and have a very merry, > > > Geoffrey Bays > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From charioteer7 at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 16:14:56 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:14:56 -0500 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> Message-ID: <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> Edmund: thanks for the reply. It looks like the 4000 model is gone, I only see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, especially with skype. anyone have a 9000 ?? cheers, Geoffrey Bays On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? >> Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. >> >> We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. >> >> And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. > > > I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 - works out of the box. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Tue Dec 23 16:46:32 2008 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:46:32 +0200 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Geoffrey Bays wrote: > Edmund: > thanks for the reply. It looks like the 4000 model is gone, I only > see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, > especially with skype. > > anyone have a 9000 ?? > Hi there, I have a Quickcam deluxe, as seen here: http://www.digitaltechnews.com/news/2007/03/logitech_quickc.html It works perfectly on kubuntu intrepid with no problems, right out of the box, just plug and play. Jussi > cheers, > > Geoffrey Bays > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >>> Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? >>> Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. >>> >>> We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. >>> >>> And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. >> >> >> I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 - works out of the box. >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 17:03:08 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:03:08 -0700 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook said the following at 12/20/2008 01:23 AM : > > Is it possible to get KRunner to discontinue using icons and to use the > same kind of text based command history display that I just described? krunner is still under heavy development. At this point, I think it's anybody's guess how it will end up. If you have particular features you want to see, I would encourage you to file a wishlist item at bugs.kde.org. > > Is there a how-to somewhere? > Not as far as I know; and if there is one somewhere, it is almost certainly out of date :-( Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From paul at lemmons.name Tue Dec 23 17:51:10 2008 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:51:10 -0700 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4951250E.7040102@lemmons.name> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Steven From randy.earl at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 18:50:17 2008 From: randy.earl at gmail.com (Randy) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:50:17 +0100 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812231950.17233.randy.earl@gmail.com> > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." I have a Logitech Quickcam Communicate Deluxe, which functions but not perfectly (I get some jitter using it with Skype on Linux, but it works perfectly under Windows). Try this page to find other candidates: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Randy From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 18:54:12 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:54:12 +0100 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> Il domenica 14 dicembre 2008 04:54:19 Steven Vollom ha scritto: > I apologize to the List. When I changed to Kmail and stopped using > Thunderbird, I had sending problems. Because they don't seem to go away, > and I haven't been able to fix the reply problem, I decided to use > Thunderbird again. > > I just sent my first email using Thunderbird and had to resend it. So it > is apparent that the problem is probably server related and not Kmail. > Although the email did not go to the Outbox, I did get a notification that > there was a problem connecting with the server, so that is sufficiently > similar to the problem in Kmail. > > For AT&T to be willing to service a Linux program, there is a required fee > of $100. I can't afford that, so I will have to live with the problem. > Their service is the only DSL service that is affordable to me. It's > always something. Dear Steven, I understand you need, as everybody here, an affordable dsl provider to work with. But I think you could change your *mail* provider without concern, as I did in the past. I have an Internet provider which is different from the mail I use. Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. IMHO. Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue Dec 23 18:54:38 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:54:38 +0000 Subject: Terminal commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495133EE.3070104@btinternet.com> OK, here is a description. I'm not sure which parts are bash specific: . . . sort|uniq|less Well, I sort of understand what it's doing, I guess. BTW: I think such a list isn't very helpful. I prefer the apropos command to search for a particular command. I was using apropos to find 'du': going 'apropos disk' didn't do it, 'apropos disk usage' did find it, but of course, to do this one I had already remembered the command anyway. This only an example, I've got plenty of guis installed to do the disc info job more completely. A dolphin keyword search on the file resulting from your script is nearly as quick as using apropos, whatis or whatever, I find. Thanks, Nils, have a Good Christmas brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 18:55:12 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:55:12 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812231018.34768.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> <200812231018.34768.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go back >> to another question then what is the difference between a stable and >> non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude > > I think you are mixing up Ubuntu and Debian. Debian has release branches > named stable and unstable. Ubuntu doesn't have something like that. > However there are some Ubuntu releases which get a longer support and > those are called LTS (Long Term Support) releases. > > > Nils I said sort of out of short hand that LTS was stable. It was not the correct way to say it and then this came up. To answer your question, I would say that alpha, beta and RC are the Ubuntu unstable releases. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:08:25 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:08:25 +0100 Subject: KDE4 questions, two problems In-Reply-To: <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> References: <4942F7B5.1000608@ajinfosearch.com> <4942FFA9.9000506@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200812232008.25993.valtermura@gmail.com> Il sabato 13 dicembre 2008 01:19:53 Billie Walsh ha scritto: > On 12/12/2008 Alan Dacey wrote: > > 2- How do I clearly get the packages I search for to show up in the > > list > > on the right in Adept? Is there a tutorial on the new tagging system > > or > > something? > > Forget about Adept. They've totally trashed it. Practically worthless > now. Use Synaptic. It should be installed by default. Well, not totally trashed. If you go to KMenu/Applications/System/Adept manager, the Interface is changed but the functions are almost the same. We must learn to use the "relevant tags" to search packages and click on "details" to look at files and dependencies. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:10:09 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:10:09 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! Message-ID: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> When printing an HTML document via lpr I am getting that the HTML code is being printed, not the rendered page. How can I get the rendered page to be printed? The file is in fact named with an .html extension. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:22:15 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:22:15 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812231422.21513.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:47:46 am John L Fjellstad wrote: > > Well you couldn't possibly have read the links before posting them or > > you wouldn't have posted them. > > I did. And the point was that people has been complaining about, even > though you claimed you never read anybody complaining about Konqueror as > a file manager.  But then, if you are going to just dismiss the > complaints, well.. C'mon, John. One of the links was a guy complimenting konqueror. Others were to versions of KDE 3 as new as KDE 4 is currently. Another was just a stoooopid "konqueror is the worst" with nothing else. I'm not ignoring them. I read them. I read them because I was curious as to what people didn't like. The links you listed didn't answer that. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:28:10 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:28:10 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812231428.10370.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:47:46 am John L Fjellstad wrote: > > Yes, and my point is that if you can't afford scientific market > > research, you have to use tools, and that is to analyze the complaints > > according to coherence and reputation of the complainer. > > What reputation?  We're talking about the Internet.  Now, someone like > Art and Derek might be known here, but they are probably just a random > guy on the KDE lists.  Now, I personally am waiting for a call from > President-elect Obama to help him with the economic crisis, especially > since I've posted on the Economist forums, which make me eminently > qualified to give an opinion, but that's because I'm an arrogant bastard. That's very sad. You mean you take your time following this list. You read the posts, and you never form any opinion as to which posters offer valuable help and which should be ignored? It is like waking up every morning never remembering what happened yesterday. I don't read economist forums and don't have a clue what your economic acumen is. I did recently read of a formerly anonymous blogger who was cited by Nobel Laureate Paul Krugmann in his recently revised book. He cited her not because he knew her name, but because of her consistently keen opinions. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:31:34 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:31:34 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:47:46 am John L Fjellstad wrote: > And I might listen to you and Derek and Knapp more than > someone who just pop in here and give an opinion and disappear. But then > again, I hang out here (even though I don't post much) so I 'know' you > guys from your posts.   Exactly my point. > A developer is probably hanging out at their > developer and user lists (say KDE-developer and KDE-user or whatever), > and might get a link to some random user lists where my name shows > up. At that point, my opnion doesn't rank any higher than any other Joe > Random poster. Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers OUGHT to monitor lists concerning their projects. Some development teams seem to designate one from the team to monitor and participate in the lists. I believe this is a good practice. > > BTW. Happy Holidays everybody :-) Thank you, and to you and yours as well! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 19:38:49 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:38:49 -0500 Subject: No suitable demuxer available. In-Reply-To: <200812221940.12244.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812201337.54927.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812221042.24243.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812221940.12244.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812231438.49919.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Monday 22 December 2008 7:40:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > When you don't know the why of something, it doesn't take hold, at least in > my memory. I think that is true for most people. It becomes a recipe rather than a lesson. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 23 19:16:04 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:16:04 -0400 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup References: <1578265.7ZrRFQ1IFk@cedar.serverforest.com> <200812221948.37200.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200812222023.43160.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <38470498.pxQcxc1oPU@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: >> On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:18 Derek Broughton wrote: >> > I just tend to blame kmail because it's >> > probably the most used kontact component and it's certainly the one >> > that breaks most for me.. > > That makes sense. I remember Kmail crashes as well but that was long > ago. They're back in 4.1 (though actually I can make knode crash easily, but now I know better than to play with knode filters). KMail still doesn't handle IMAP as well as it should and now it crashes occasionally on my IMAP folders. -- derek From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Dec 23 19:56:45 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:56:45 -0500 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> Dotan Cohen wrote: > When printing an HTML document via lpr I am getting that the HTML code > is being printed, not the rendered page. How can I get the rendered > page to be printed? The file is in fact named with an .html extension. > Thanks. Use a2ps. Matthew Flaschen From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:05:42 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:05:42 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/23 Matthew Flaschen : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> When printing an HTML document via lpr I am getting that the HTML code >> is being printed, not the rendered page. How can I get the rendered >> page to be printed? The file is in fact named with an .html extension. >> Thanks. > > Use a2ps. > Thanks, Matthew. a2ps seems to call html2ps internally, which cannot handle the unicode in the document. That is, unless I am doing it wrong: $ html2ps calendar.html > calendar.ps Returns a page with the incorrect encoding (UTF-8 as iso-8859-1). $ html2ps -e utf8 calendar.html > calendar.ps Returns a blank page. I have also tried utf-8 UTF8 and UTF-8 but they all return blank pages. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:07:36 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:07:36 +1000 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> References: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:03:08 am D. R. Evans wrote: > > Is it possible to get KRunner to discontinue using icons and to use the > > same kind of text based command history display that I just described? > > krunner is still under heavy development. At this point, I think it's > anybody's guess how it will end up. > > If you have particular features you want to see, I would encourage you to > file a wishlist item at bugs.kde.org. Is you do so, let the list know so we can vote for it - I would. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:09:36 2008 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:09:36 +1000 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812240609.36706.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:54:12 am Valter Mura wrote: > But I think you could change your mail provider without concern, as I did > in the past. I have an Internet provider which is different from the mail I > use. Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. Good point. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Tue Dec 23 19:06:40 2008 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:06:40 +0000 Subject: Kmail sending problem. References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: Valter Mura wrote: > Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. Just use Googlemail, forward mail to your current mail account, and don't worry about whether people see you've changed your mail account, you'll still get mails addressed to both accounts. AJH From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Tue Dec 23 20:26:00 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:26:00 +0100 Subject: window behavior Message-ID: <200812232126.00465.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Can one in KDE 3 designate that applicationwindows open not over each other but nicely next to each other. I have a wide screen and would like to see for instance 4 appilcation evenly devided over the screen. -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From brb.lists at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:29:03 2008 From: brb.lists at gmail.com (Brian Blater) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:29:03 -0500 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7743536a0812231229w268903e1m77cbf9ce1ba0e136@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Geoffrey Bays wrote: > Edmund: > thanks for the reply. It looks like the 4000 model is gone, I only > see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, > especially with skype. > > anyone have a 9000 ?? > > cheers, > > Geoffrey Bays > I have a QuickCam Pro 9000 on my Kubuntu Hardy machine. Works fine with Skype. Brian From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:53:59 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:53:59 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers OUGHT to > monitor lists concerning their projects. > > Some development teams seem to designate one from the team to monitor and > participate in the lists. I believe this is a good practice. > > >> >> BTW. Happy Holidays everybody :-) > > Thank you, and to you and yours as well! I agree but what if that person has biases? Perhaps more watching a list would be better or one that gives a summery that does not edit out oppinions or ideas but just repetition? Any way, good idea. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:55:50 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:50 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Knapp wrote: >> Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers OUGHT to >> monitor lists concerning their projects. >> >> Some development teams seem to designate one from the team to monitor and >> participate in the lists. I believe this is a good practice. >> >> >>> >>> BTW. Happy Holidays everybody :-) >> >> Thank you, and to you and yours as well! > > I agree but what if that person has biases? Perhaps more watching a > list would be better or one that gives a summery that does not edit > out opinions or ideas but just repetition? Any way, good idea. Sorry but one other thought. This watcher does not need to be a dev. He could be anyone that wants to help and all he does is post weekly summaries for the devs to read. That way you do not use the programming time of a dev. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Dec 23 21:07:26 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:07:26 -0500 Subject: synaptic error In-Reply-To: <200812230944.31974.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200812230944.31974.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812231607.26591.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008, lanzen wrote: > > How do I fix it? Thanx, Ric > > Don't know... I had the same yesterday evening. I updated and it seems fine > now. Have you tried: dpkg -a --configure That fixes a lot of problems... not sure about a cache problem. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Dec 23 21:13:39 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:13:39 -0500 Subject: synaptic error In-Reply-To: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200812231613.39777.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 22 December 2008, Ric Moore wrote: > I keep getting this: > > E: The package cache file is corrupted > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. > > > How do I fix it? Thanx, Ric Look at apt-cache. Supposedly it will rebuild the cache. apt-cache gencaches gencaches performs the same operation as apt-get check. It builds the source and package caches from the sources in sources.list(5) and from /var/lib/dpkg/status. From charioteer7 at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 21:20:53 2008 From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:20:53 -0500 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <7743536a0812231229w268903e1m77cbf9ce1ba0e136@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> <7743536a0812231229w268903e1m77cbf9ce1ba0e136@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <646a014e0812231320x445f36acm82d6646f0ce62c74@mail.gmail.com> Brian: That sounds good, if no extra config was necessary for skype. It is now on my shopping list Thanks, Geoffrey Bays On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Brian Blater wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Geoffrey Bays wrote: >> Edmund: >> thanks for the reply. It looks like the 4000 model is gone, I only >> see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, >> especially with skype. >> >> anyone have a 9000 ?? >> >> cheers, >> >> Geoffrey Bays >> > > I have a QuickCam Pro 9000 on my Kubuntu Hardy machine. Works fine with Skype. > > Brian > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Dec 23 21:23:33 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:23:33 -0500 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495156D5.5000508@gatech.edu> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thanks, Matthew. a2ps seems to call html2ps internally, which cannot > handle the unicode in the document. That is, unless I am doing it > wrong: Yeah, you seem to be right. That's even documented in the man page ("Currently recognized values are ISO-8859-1, EUC-JP, SHIFT-JIS, and ISO-2022-JP (other EUC-xx encodings may also work).") If it actually uses characters outside of ISO-8859-1, I don't have a solution. Take a look at iconv, though. > $ html2ps calendar.html > calendar.ps > Returns a page with the incorrect encoding (UTF-8 as iso-8859-1). What exactly do you mean? It misinterprets UTF-8 input as ISO-8859-1 input? Matt Flaschen From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Dec 23 21:28:27 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:28:27 -0500 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812231628.28277.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thanks, Matthew. a2ps seems to call html2ps internally, which cannot > handle the unicode in the document. That is, unless I am doing it > wrong: What's wrong with printing it from a browser?? From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 21:28:49 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:28:49 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <495156D5.5000508@gatech.edu> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> <495156D5.5000508@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <880dece00812231328v59daba66r745b700d22fed86b@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/23 Matthew Flaschen : > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Thanks, Matthew. a2ps seems to call html2ps internally, which cannot >> handle the unicode in the document. That is, unless I am doing it >> wrong: > > Yeah, you seem to be right. That's even documented in the man page > ("Currently recognized values are ISO-8859-1, EUC-JP, SHIFT-JIS, and > ISO-2022-JP (other EUC-xx encodings may also work).") If it actually > uses characters outside of ISO-8859-1, I don't have a solution. Take a > look at iconv, though. > >> $ html2ps calendar.html > calendar.ps >> Returns a page with the incorrect encoding (UTF-8 as iso-8859-1). > > What exactly do you mean? It misinterprets UTF-8 input as ISO-8859-1 input? > I get gibberish like the eighth example on this page: http://gibberish.co.il/encoding.html (warning: not English!) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Dec 23 21:32:06 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:32:06 -0500 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <200812231628.28277.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> <200812231628.28277.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <495158D6.8040806@gatech.edu> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Thanks, Matthew. a2ps seems to call html2ps internally, which cannot >> handle the unicode in the document. That is, unless I am doing it >> wrong: > > What's wrong with printing it from a browser?? My guess he is generating the HTML file from a script. Matthew Flaschen From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 21:42:40 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:42:40 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <495158D6.8040806@gatech.edu> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <4951427D.4050206@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231205t50a1e5aexb5046b62826630c6@mail.gmail.com> <200812231628.28277.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <495158D6.8040806@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <880dece00812231342yff0bf61x81c40b959bf37aac@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/23 Matthew Flaschen : >> What's wrong with printing it from a browser?? > > My guess he is generating the HTML file from a script. > Correct, from konsolekalendar and then mutilated for my own needs. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Dec 23 22:01:09 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:01:09 +0200 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy -> Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000 in Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49515FA5.10809@mail.ee> > Edmund: > thanks for the reply. You are welcome! > It looks like the 4000 model is gone From manufacturing - yes but if you look at the Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=Logitech+QuickCam+Pro+4000 ... then you'll find several places selling it. For older Ubuntu versions this howto may be interesting - http://www.noah.org/wiki/Logitech_QuickCam_Pro_4000_on_Ubuntu In future newer versions will appear here - http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/files/ > I only see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, > especially with skype. It seems like it will not work out of the box but if you compile the driver, then you can get it work. But some people reporting, that it works out of the box... More information: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ - in Linux supported webcams https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech https://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product?id=800 - here some people tells, that it works out of the box e.g. in Hardy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware Some links for more investigation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547944 - logitech quickcam pro 9000, will it work ? http://scratchdrive.com/wordpress/?p=15 - Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 with Ubuntu Linux http://forums.quickcamteam.net/showthread.php?tid=79 - Quickcam Pro 9000 ubuntu More reading: http://blog.gnist.org/article.php?story=Linux_and_LogitechQuickCamPro9000 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingLogitechQuickcamPro5000OnEdgy http://nurey.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-bought-logitech-quickcam-pro-9000.html - Ubuntu 8.10 experience From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 23 22:12:29 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:29 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812231428.10370.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2088310.PANzkWI0WF@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:47:46 am John L Fjellstad wrote: >> > Yes, and my point is that if you can't afford scientific market >> > research, you have to use tools, and that is to analyze the >> > complaints according to coherence and reputation of the complainer. >> >> What reputation? We're talking about the Internet. Now, someone >> like Art and Derek might be known here, but they are probably just a >> random guy on the KDE lists. Once upon a time, I was pretty noticeable on kdepim (I think that's probably where I first ran across Art), but otherwise you're right - I don't hang out on KDE lists. But the whole problem with KDE4 is a _distro_ problem, not a KDE one. KDE4 isn't ready for inclusion in Kubuntu, and most other distros using KDE would seem to agree. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 23 22:15:04 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:15:04 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1756718.4lp5i4T19S@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:47:46 am John L Fjellstad wrote: >> A developer is probably hanging out at their >> developer and user lists (say KDE-developer and KDE-user or >> whatever), and might get a link to some random user lists where my >> name shows up. At that point, my opnion doesn't rank any higher than >> any other Joe Random poster. > > Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers > OUGHT to monitor lists concerning their projects. > In this case, though, the "developers" we're talking about are largely Kubuntu's packagers. They're the people who decided KDE4 was ready to put into a stable release - and they're the people who should be monitoring this list. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Dec 23 22:20:49 2008 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:20:49 -0400 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 References: <4950260c.161e640a.7b76.2e22@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2613055.bB5gqDC207@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Jonathan Jesse > wrote: >> Sorry replying on my phone >> I was not implyinh that non lts releases are testing... Let me go >> back to another question then what is the difference between a stable >> and non stable release??? 8.10 bis very stable on my Dell Lattitude The way Ubuntu works, I expect any _release_ to be stable. Jaunty Jiraffe (9.04) is not stable. By May, it will be a stable release. > I would say that unstable has known bugs that crash the system. Stable > has no known bugs that can take out the system and perhaps all the > programs are stable as well, IE not crashing. And yet there are known (even fixed upstream) bugs that are not fixed in Intrepid, and _will_ not be fixed in the next release. -- derek From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 22:43:50 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:43:50 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <1756718.4lp5i4T19S@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812221622.36661.art.alexion@gmail.com> <87bpv3xrh9.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> <1756718.4lp5i4T19S@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: > But the whole problem with KDE4 is a > _distro_ problem, not a KDE one. KDE4 isn't ready for inclusion in > Kubuntu, and most other distros using KDE would seem to agree. > In this case, though, the "developers" we're talking about are largely > Kubuntu's packagers. They're the people who decided KDE4 was ready to > put into a stable release - and they're the people who should be > monitoring this list. > -- > derek I could not agree more!! (but there are other distro's with kde4) I thought that 8.04 was perfect with KDE4 as an option. It should have stayed that way until 4 and it's software packages were stable or in some cases even written. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Dec 23 22:46:37 2008 From: trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:46:37 +0000 Subject: window behavior References: <200812232126.00465.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Message-ID: Peter Klaassen wrote: > Can one in KDE 3 designate that applicationwindows open not over each > other but nicely next to each other. I have a wide screen and would like > to see for instance 4 appilcation evenly devided over the screen. Use System Settings - Window-specific Settings to set each app window to open at one quarter of your screen size. (Someapps eg Konqueror allow you to save it's size in it's profle. Then use System Settings - Window Behaviour - Moving, then set Placement option as Smart. This will open each app in a spare corner. HTH Jim From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 22:51:41 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:51:41 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/23 Steven Vollom : > I don't know if this is possible, however, since the purchase of my new > monitor, I find myself always choosing MPlayer as my movie player, because I > can change to aspect ratio to 16:9. My preference would be that whenever I > wanted to play a movie on the computer, it would automatically open with > MPlayer as the default movie player, and the default aspect ratio to be 16:9. In the settings for filebindings you should be able to move mplayer as the first option for the different video mime types. I'm not sure its wise to force a 16:9 aspect ratio for all videos. What if the video source has a ratio of 4:3 vouldn't that give some strange results? / Jonas From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Tue Dec 23 23:28:22 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:22 -0500 Subject: Email change Message-ID: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this list? I've gone to and input my new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from the list keeps coming to the old address. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at fuse.net ============================================= "This must be Kansas," said Tom flatly. From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed Dec 24 00:41:36 2008 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:36 -0400 Subject: Strange permissions on mounted dvd References: Message-ID: <03d826-bli.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2008/12/20 Jonas Norlander : >> $ ls -l /media/ >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> cdrom0 >> dr--r--r-- 30 4294967295 4294967295 3024 2008-08-02 11:17 cdrom0 >> >> See that strange owner and group id on the mountpoint? >> >> $ LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ >> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - >> Easy Listening: Permission denied >> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/A Tribute To Abba (metal): Permission >> denied C'mon, Jonas - do you really expect us to HELP you listen to Abba? Friends don't let friends do Abba :-) I just read a book by John Sandford (Heat Lightning?), where the character is talking to somebody about CIA conspiracies. The second guy is worried that maybe the first _is_ actually from the CIA, and is told "we don't need to trap you, we've already planted bugs in all your fillings", "Oh - that's why I keep hearing old Abba songs?", "No way - even we're not that nasty!" >> $ groups stefan >> stefan adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev users scanner lpadmin >> admin sambashare >> >> I have searched the net and ubuntu bugs but no clues. I don't know >> where to go from here. Has someone seen something like this before or >> know what the cause could be? I _have_ seen things like this before. Mostly they happen when somebody copies filesystems from one machine to another, but they can also happen if a user/group has been deleted. Check that he actually has a group "cdrom". If not, it's easy - just create "cdrom" as group 30 (not that I really think it should be owned by cdrom - mine has root - but I'm sure it would work). if that doesn't work, look in /etc/udev/rules.d for anything to do with cdrom. This is where the symlink from cdrom to cdrom0 and the permissions should all be being set. I have to admit: "A Tribute To Abba (metal)" sounds intriguing! From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 01:11:12 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:11:12 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> >Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > IMHO. I don't understand; if I cancel AT&T, I am no longer connected to the internet. The only Google DSL service is a joke service through your toilet. That isn't real. Is there another Google DSL service. I pay $15 per month for DSL service with AT&T. That is all I can afford. All the other services for that price, have bundled services requirements. I can't afford the other bundled services. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 01:14:42 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:14:42 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812240609.36706.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> <200812240609.36706.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812232014.42460.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 3:09:36 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:54:12 am Valter Mura wrote: > > But I think you could change your mail provider without concern, as I did > > in the past. I have an Internet provider which is different from the mail > > I use. Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > > Good point. What internet service provider provides DSL service for less than $15 per month? Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 03:39:21 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:39:21 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > What if the video source has a ratio of 4:3 vouldn't that give some > strange results? Hi Jonas, I really don't know why; it opens in a default right now, but not 16:9. If I want 4:3, I just select 4:3. Or if I want 16:9, I select that aspect ratio. In fact that is what I do, every time I play a movie. It seems appropriate to have it open in 16:9, since that is my choice every time I play a movie. 16:9 almost fills the screen except for about one half inch at top and bottom. Wouldn't a movie made in 4:3 be changeable to 16:9 if you wanted to do that, using MPlayer? I really don't know a lot about this, but I do change to 16:9 when I play movies, and it seems wasteful to have to click the mouse so many extra times to get what I always want. I choose MPlayer too, because it has the aspect ratio feature. That too seems wasteful in terms of mouse clicks. Each time I open a movie, I have to right-click on the title, then choose 16:9 for aspect ratio. It would be better just to click on the title of the movie and have it open as I wish, without having to make so many choices. If it is a 4:3 aspect ration, nothing prohibits me from clicking on that choice, the few times it happens. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 03:56:01 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:56:01 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812232256.01449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 2:06:40 pm andrew heggie wrote: > Valter Mura wrote: > > Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > > Just use Googlemail, forward mail to your current mail account, and don't > worry about whether people see you've changed your mail account, you'll > still get mails addressed to both accounts. > > AJH Actually this has gone off topic a bit; I don't know how that happened. I have a Gmail account. What I want is a cheaper ISP. They recently upped the price by $10 a month; they were willing to return to the old price, however only supply 1/2 the service. Formerly I was able to transfer data at 160kbs, now it is only 80kbs, and I pay the same price as last month. All the companies that I have found that offer as cheap or a cheaper price have other services bundled, like telephone and movies. I just can't afford spending more money. I live on a very low fixed retirement income. The result of AT&T's price increase is 1/2 the service for the same price. In my thinking that is a 100% increase in price. Pretty unfair for my situation. Same with food. My monthly budget is about $160, and food prices have risen 30% in the last few months, so I have had to change my diet to foods that are not as healthy. Fortunately everyone else usually does not have to take this loss; they simply raise their prices for their services or products and pass it on to people like me. But I don't get the raises, and I cannot work anymore. Steven From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 04:07:37 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:07:37 -0500 Subject: synaptic error In-Reply-To: <200812231607.26591.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200812230944.31974.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200812231607.26591.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1230091657.32053.6.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 16:07 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: > dpkg -a --configure > Just tried that and it appears to fix the problem. Thanks! Merry Xmas! Ric BTW, I am fully updated. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 04:18:24 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:18:24 -0500 Subject: I need the best and brightest for two problems that are work-arounds now. Message-ID: <200812232318.25029.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I have posted these problems and have found ways to make my computer function, however, each time I have to boot up, I have to go through extra procedures. Problem 1: When I turn on my computer, several programs open on the screen, for example, email, previously open web pages, chat programs and the like. Nonetheless, I cannot click on the title bar to activate the window, until I open a konsole and type in kwin. Then the windows function normally, but I have to keep that konsole open, for if I close it, I lose kwin. How do I fix it so kwin opens during the boot-up cycle without having to open it using a terminal? Problem 2: Every time I turn on my computer, sdb5, a storage partition opens in an inactive posture. It contains a subfolder that contains the things I use, but the actual partition says permission denied. To work around this problem, I open SystemSettings>AdvancedTab>Disk&FileSystems> Login as Administrator, highlight the sdb5 partition, click on enable, close the program, and finally can use the subfolder. I still cannot use the primary portion of the partition. How can I change this so that after I enable sdb5, it remains enabled? How can I enable the sdb5 partition so that I can use all of the partition and not just a sub-folder? As you can see, I can work around the problems by going through the described effort every time I turn my computer on. Thanks for any help you may provide. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 04:32:52 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:32:52 -0500 Subject: synaptic error In-Reply-To: <1230091657.32053.6.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1229995148.6043.199.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200812231607.26591.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <1230091657.32053.6.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200812232332.53150.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Dear Bruce, > > dpkg -a --configure What does this command do? Would it fix my problem with windows opening in an inactive state, when I turn on my computer? I have to type kwin in a terminal and leave the terminal open, for my windows to function. If I close the terminal, kwin ceases to function. Thanks! Steven From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 05:20:30 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:20:30 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb Message-ID: anyone out can help I run Kubuntu on a 40gb with three partitions 8gb sdb1/1gb swap area /38gb sbd3 /home! but my sdb1 is always 100% full, and I want to partition it to 20gb sdb1 1 gb swap 19gb sdb3 /home therefore reduce the 38gb sdb3 back to 19gb and the 8gb sdb1 up to 20gb leaving the swap area as 1gb. does anyone no of app or program that is able to do this without destroying any of the data??? as I have it connected to a dual boot 80gb xp pro/Kubuntu 40gb, as I dont want to re-install Kubuntu and loose any data????????? ray _________________________________________________________________ Holiday cheer from Messenger. 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I have to type kwin in a > terminal and leave the terminal open, for my windows to function. If I > close the terminal, kwin ceases to function. Thanks! > >Steven That should be an easy fix, type "kwin &"ENTER, without the quotes of course. That '&' divorces kwin from that shell and makes it usable for other things or it can be closed. But I never close a shell unless it gets its prompt trashed, I'm always needing a shell it seems. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Less is more or less more -- Y_Plentyn on #LinuxGER From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 07:53:54 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:53:54 +0100 Subject: Email change In-Reply-To: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812240853.54993.kassube@gmx.net> Jerry Lapham wrote: > Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this > list? I've gone to > and input my > new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a > confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from > the list keeps coming to the old address. You could try to subscribe with the new address and then unsubscribe with the old one. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 07:55:35 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:55:35 +0100 Subject: Strange permissions on mounted dvd In-Reply-To: <03d826-bli.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <03d826-bli.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200812240855.35139.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Jonas Norlander wrote: > > 2008/12/20 Jonas Norlander : > >> $ ls -l /media/ > >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-20 19:06 cdrom -> > >> cdrom0 dr--r--r-- 30 4294967295 4294967295 3024 2008-08-02 11:17 > >> cdrom0 > >> > >> See that strange owner and group id on the mountpoint? > >> > >> $ LANG=C ls -l /media/cdrom0/ > >> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/20 Golden Love Songs Vol.1 (2007) - > >> Easy Listening: Permission denied > >> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/A Tribute To Abba (metal): > >> Permission denied > > C'mon, Jonas - do you really expect us to HELP you listen to Abba? > Friends don't let friends do Abba :-) :) > I _have_ seen things like this before. Mostly they happen when > somebody copies filesystems from one machine to another, but they can > also happen if a user/group has been deleted. > > Check that he actually has a group "cdrom". If not, it's easy - just > create "cdrom" as group 30 (not that I really think it should be owned > by cdrom - mine has root - but I'm sure it would work). > > if that doesn't work, look in /etc/udev/rules.d for anything to do with > cdrom. This is where the symlink from cdrom to cdrom0 and the > permissions should all be being set. The problem seems to be wrong permissions on the DVD media, not from udev. I have checked the commercial DVDs I have and a home made one (made with DeVeDe). They all have the same UID/GID 4294967295/4294967295 which is just the highest available 32 bit unsigned integer (2^32-1). As there is no user known with that UID/GID, ls just shows the number. But all my DVDs had permissions dr-xr-xr-x not dr--r--r--. As root doesn't care about the missing x bit for directories, the "sudo ls" command was successful. Now the question is what type of DVD is it? Is it a commercial one or home made? If it is home made, what program was used to create it? Nils From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 07:56:58 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:56:58 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> Ray Burke wrote: > I run Kubuntu on a 40gb with three partitions 8gb sdb1/1gb swap area > /38gb sbd3 /home! but my sdb1 is always 100% full, and I want to > partition it to 20gb sdb1 > 1 gb swap > 19gb sdb3 /home > therefore reduce the 38gb sdb3 back to 19gb > and the 8gb sdb1 up to 20gb > leaving the swap area as 1gb. > > does anyone no of app or program that is able to do this without > destroying any of the data??? > as I have it connected to a dual boot 80gb xp pro/Kubuntu 40gb, > as I dont want to re-install Kubuntu and loose any data????????? It can be done with gparted. It might be possible with qtparted as well, but I prefer gparted. However I would suggest you make backups anyway before you change the partitioning of a disk. You can't use the running system to do what you want, so you should use e.g. the Ubuntu LiveCD which has gparted included. After you have started the LiveCD turn off swap with the command sudo swapoff -a in a terminal because your swap area is used by the LiveCD automatically. And be prepared to wait a long time until the resizing is finished. Nils From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:24:14 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:24:14 +0200 Subject: Email change In-Reply-To: <200812240853.54993.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <200812240853.54993.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <880dece00812240024veaecd82n2e78d83e091a9153@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/24 Nils Kassube : > Jerry Lapham wrote: >> Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this >> list? I've gone to >> and input my >> new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a >> confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from >> the list keeps coming to the old address. > > You could try to subscribe with the new address and then unsubscribe with > the old one. > That is what the OP said he is doing. OP: Try checking your spam filters and quarantine boxes. I must add that I sometimes cannot receive email from some forum signups, and I cannot figure out why (such as the KDE wiki). My spam filtering does not seem to be the problem, but the emails are never received. Using my gmail address instead of my regular address, I receive the messages, so I know that the problem is on my end. I am really uncomfortable with email being silently dropped. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 09:45:18 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:45:18 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Ray Burke wrote: >> I run Kubuntu on a 40gb with three partitions 8gb sdb1/1gb swap area >> /38gb sbd3 /home! but my sdb1 is always 100% full, and I want to >> partition it to 20gb sdb1 >> 1 gb swap >> 19gb sdb3 /home >> therefore reduce the 38gb sdb3 back to 19gb >> and the 8gb sdb1 up to 20gb >> leaving the swap area as 1gb. >> >> does anyone no of app or program that is able to do this without >> destroying any of the data??? >> as I have it connected to a dual boot 80gb xp pro/Kubuntu 40gb, >> as I dont want to re-install Kubuntu and loose any data????????? > > It can be done with gparted. It might be possible with qtparted as well, > but I prefer gparted. However I would suggest you make backups anyway > before you change the partitioning of a disk. You can't use the running > system to do what you want, so you should use e.g. the Ubuntu LiveCD > which has gparted included. After you have started the LiveCD turn off > swap with the command > > sudo swapoff -a > > in a terminal because your swap area is used by the LiveCD automatically. > And be prepared to wait a long time until the resizing is finished. > > > Nils If you don't have the live CD, I would recommend partedmagic. Has does what you want but is a much smaller download. It is still using Gparted. http://wiki.partedmagic.com/index.php/Downloads If you have a desktop system, then you might want to get rid of the swap. My system does not use it but that is related to how much RAM you have and what aps you use. You also should set the swappiness to something like 0, not the standard 60 that is good for servers. http://lwn.net/Articles/83588/ Conky is good for watching memory and has a very light memory foot print but the setting it up takes some reading. Or you could just use some other thing to watch the swap as you do your daily stuff: maybe Ksysguard. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Dec 24 11:38:04 2008 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:38:04 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812240638.04825.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 8:11:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > >Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > > IMHO. > > I don't understand; if I cancel AT&T, I am no longer connected to the > internet. The only Google DSL service is a joke service through your > toilet. That isn't real. Is there another Google DSL service. > > I pay $15 per month for DSL service with AT&T. That is all I can afford. > All the other services for that price, have bundled services requirements. > I can't afford the other bundled services. If I understand correctly; Steven, Valter did not recommend switching DSL providers, only mail providers. Steven, you can use any free mail provider you want it does not have to be AT&T. Although you will still get your Internet through AT&T you do not have to use their mail service. You can use Yahoo's free service, but they make you pay to download your messages into a mail client such as Kontact. Or you can use Gmail's free service (at least I think it's free) or you could use the free MSN mail service, and so on and so forth. There's plenty of free mailbox providers, with no need to switch your DSL services. -- David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From alain.muls at telenet.be Wed Dec 24 11:42:39 2008 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:39 +0100 Subject: Annoying small window size in 8.10 KDE4 Message-ID: <200812241242.39497.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi I like the new KDE running on kubuntu 8.10, even if from time to time a small glitch is observed. Though there is one thing I find very annoying. In the current version KDE4.1.85, the windows do not maintain their size. Dolphin, okular, adept, etc, all start up way too small. In the 8.04 version, the windows maintained the size they had when closed. Am I missetting somewhere a setting? Tx/Alain -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alain MULS alain.muls at telenet.be CISS-GENA +32.2.7426340 Renaissance Avenue 30 1000 BRUSSELS - Belgium ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Dec 24 15:27:19 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:27:19 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812241027.19728.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Steven Vollom wrote: > Wouldn't a movie made in 4:3 be changeable to 16:9 if you wanted to do > that, using MPlayer? Not possible without screwing up the aspect ratio..... Think about it.... 3 is the vertical ratio number... and you would be stretching it to 9 or multiplying by 3. In order to keep the horizontal at the same ratio, multiply by 3 and get 12. 12:9 would be correct. 16:9 would be stretching the horizontal. From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 15:36:40 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:36:40 -0700 Subject: Annoying small window size in 8.10 KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812241242.39497.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200812241242.39497.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: <49525708.4040501@gmail.com> Alain Muls said the following at 12/24/2008 04:42 AM : > Hi > > I like the new KDE running on kubuntu 8.10, even if from time to time a small > glitch is observed. Though there is one thing I find very annoying. > > In the current version KDE4.1.85, the windows do not maintain their size. > Dolphin, okular, adept, etc, all start up way too small. In the 8.04 version, > the windows maintained the size they had when closed. > > Am I missetting somewhere a setting? For okular: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137108 I didn't bother looking for the others, but I would expect that those are resolved bugs too. You can check for yourself if you really want to be sure. Doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 16:55:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:55:59 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812241027.19728.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241027.19728.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200812241155.59946.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Think about it.... 3 is the vertical ratio number... and you would be > stretching it to 9 or multiplying by 3. Since I got my new 22" active matrix, I play all movies at 16:9. They play beautifully and look just perfect. I am not sure they just stretch the picture, the frames look correct, it just fills the screen with about 1/2 inch top and bottom. In default, there is about 1 to 1 1/2 inches top and bottom. I still enjoy the movie, just not as much. I haven't played a movie that had an aspect ratio of 4:3 for a while. As I recall, there is black space right and left about 2 inches. I think if you saw the picture, you would prefer 16:9 too. And RPlayer is the only player in my group that provides an aspect ratio option. Since I always play my movies at 16:9 anyway, if there is an instruction that will allow my preference, I would still like to default that way. It doesn't seem to hurt anything. I have been doing it that way even when I had a CRT monitor. It would fill the screen when I used 4:3 aspect ratio Instead of having an inch or more top and bottom of black. If you have a newer monitor, much wider than tall, play a movie using MPlayer and change the aspect ratio to 16:9. You will understand why I prefer it that way. It will probably surprise you. It is like having a much larger screen. Cordially, Steven From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Wed Dec 24 16:59:26 2008 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:59:26 -0800 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812232256.01449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232256.01449.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812240859.26306.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 7:56:01 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > All the companies that I have found that offer as cheap or a cheaper price > have other services bundled, like telephone and movies.  I just can't > afford spending more money.  I live on a very low fixed retirement income. >  The result of AT&T's price increase is 1/2 the service for the same price. >  In my thinking that is a 100% increase in price.  Pretty unfair for my > situation. Same with food.  My monthly budget is about $160, and food > prices have risen 30% in the last few months, so I have had to change my > diet to foods that are not as healthy.   We have not had any meat of any kind or dairy in our house now since Clinton moved into the white house. Couldn't afford it any longer. However, we noticed a drastic drop in illness! Even my asthma dropped to less than half the medication needed. Blood pressure medication eliminated completely. No colds of flu for years now for any of us, ...and we both work with sick people every day. > Fortunately everyone else usually > does not have to take this loss; they simply raise their prices for their > services or products and pass it on to people like me.  But I don't get the > raises, and I cannot work anymore. Hopefully you don't live in the United States cause we just elected someone who will raise your taxes nearly 200 percent and perhaps more, wants to tax social security payouts, tax Medicaid payouts, tax disability payments, add food taxes, raise fuel taxes and fully eliminate any retirement payouts for anyone under eighty. Plus your costs go up cause all taxes, penalties, etc imposed on companies are totally passed directly to their consumers. It seems people in the US LIKE being in bondage! They elect the worst of the worst everytime. I pay $9.90 for my inet connection which is a 2.5 meg connection through Quest but they are not giving me either mail or webpage space for that, just the connection. I pay an additional $12.95 to my180 for the rest. You might look into something like that. Of course it might go up soon at Quest too! AT&T passes their increases along just like any other company. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 17:37:12 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:37:12 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812241837.12612.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > I don't know if this is possible, however, since the purchase of my new > monitor, I find myself always choosing MPlayer as my movie player, > because I can change to aspect ratio to 16:9. My preference would be > that whenever I wanted to play a movie on the computer, it would > automatically open with MPlayer as the default movie player, and the > default aspect ratio to be 16:9. With your file manager right click on a movie file and select properties. Click on the button with the wrench icon beside the file name. There you can add Mplayer (if necessary). Then move the Mplayer line to the top to make it the default. Click on the modify button and select the program tab. Probably the command is "mplayer %u" or something similar. Change it to "mplayer -fs %u", i.e. write "-fs" after "mplayer". Then Mplayer will always start in full screen mode. It will keep the aspect ratio of the movie and put black bars to the top and bottom or to the sides if necessary. Finally click "OK" to apply the changes. Nils From ubuntu at metron.com Wed Dec 24 17:41:55 2008 From: ubuntu at metron.com (Lou Katz) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:41:55 -0800 Subject: web cam that works with Kubuntu Hardy In-Reply-To: <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> References: <646a014e0812230645v425265b1vc259108be42a12e8@mail.gmail.com> <49510A18.5050008@mail.ee> <646a014e0812230814m579128e5k883f69aa9e3c1694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081224174155.GA22847@metron.com> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:14:56AM -0500, Geoffrey Bays wrote: > Edmund: > thanks for the reply. It looks like the 4000 model is gone, I only > see the newer QuickCam Pro 9000 model which may have trouble working, > especially with skype. > > anyone have a 9000 ?? Mine works fine with 'motion' and other programs, but is weird with Skype. For a while I couldn't get it to work at all (it produced a black picture), then, all of a sudden it worked fine. I don't remember doing anything to cause this. A few days ago, it suddenly stopped working with Skype and went back to black mode. Skype turns it on all right, but something is setting some parameter very badly. When it works the picture is very nice, and the low light sensitivity is quite good. Even when the picture is black the microphone is active with Skype. > > cheers, > > Geoffrey Bays > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend a web cam that works easily with Kubuntu Hardy? > >> Preferably out-of-the-box, since other Xmas tasks remain. > >> > >> We are not traveling this year, and other family members want to see us. > >> > >> And the software to run such as device--would that be DigiCam? Just a guess. > > > > > > I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 - works out of the box. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- -=[L]=- Hacking Opera for ARPA. From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 18:15:07 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:15:07 +0100 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812241915.08547.valtermura@gmail.com> Il mercoledì 24 dicembre 2008 02:11:12 Steven Vollom ha scritto: > >Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > > IMHO. > > I don't understand; if I cancel AT&T, I am no longer connected to the > internet. The only Google DSL service is a joke service through your > toilet. That isn't real. Is there another Google DSL service. > > I pay $15 per month for DSL service with AT&T. That is all I can afford. > All the other services for that price, have bundled services requirements. > I can't afford the other bundled services. > > Steven No, no, no Steven. You have a Google account, haven't you? So, set up Kmail with the configuration of Google Mail and go! You will use AT&T to connect to Internet. One thing is the Internet connection, one thing are the mail settings! Mail service, as in the real life, is a service inside the internet: the postman (a mail server) sends your mail through the Internet (the roads where the postman walks). Hope this could help you, meanwhile I wish you all a good holiday season! Regards -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 24 18:28:59 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:28:59 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812241837.12612.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241837.12612.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > With your file manager right click on a movie file and select properties. > Click on the button with the wrench icon beside the file name. There you > can add Mplayer (if necessary). Then move the Mplayer line to the top What did that accomplish? When I then clicked on a movie it still defaulted to kaffeine. > make it the default. Where is the default option? > Click on the modify button and select the program tab. Since I made the recent changes, I click on SystemMenu and it opens, however the choices within the menu will not open. > Probably the command is "mplayer %u" or something similar. Change it > to "mplayer -fs %u", i.e. write "-fs" after "mplayer". Then Mplayer will > always start in full screen mode. Nils, if I typed in mplayer -16:9 %u would that default the aspect ratio to 16:9? From art.alexion at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 18:55:28 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:55:28 -0500 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812241355.34325.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 15:53:59 Knapp wrote: > > Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers OUGHT > > to monitor lists concerning their projects. > > > > Some development teams seem to designate one from the team to monitor and > > participate in the lists.  I believe this is a good practice. > > > > I agree but what if that person has biases? EVERYONE has biases. Nonetheless, someone should have their nose to the ground. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 19:21:16 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:21:16 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, I don't quite understand, you mean just connect singularly my 40gb Kubuntu and reboot with a Ubuntu live cd, and when its loaded as trial then go to a terminal window and type sudo swapoff -ato turn off, then what?????????? ray> From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:56:58 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > I run Kubuntu on a 40gb with three partitions 8gb sdb1/1gb swap area> > /38gb sbd3 /home! but my sdb1 is always 100% full, and I want to> > partition it to 20gb sdb1> > 1 gb swap> > 19gb sdb3 /home> > therefore reduce the 38gb sdb3 back to 19gb> > and the 8gb sdb1 up to 20gb> > leaving the swap area as 1gb.> >> > does anyone no of app or program that is able to do this without> > destroying any of the data???> > as I have it connected to a dual boot 80gb xp pro/Kubuntu 40gb,> > as I dont want to re-install Kubuntu and loose any data?????????> > It can be done with gparted. It might be possible with qtparted as well, > but I prefer gparted. However I would suggest you make backups anyway > before you change the partitioning of a disk. You can't use the running > system to do what you want, so you should use e.g. the Ubuntu LiveCD > which has gparted included. After you have started the LiveCD turn off > swap with the command> > sudo swapoff -a> > in a terminal because your swap area is used by the LiveCD automatically. > And be prepared to wait a long time until the resizing is finished.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjlapham at cinci.rr.com Wed Dec 24 20:24:17 2008 From: rjlapham at cinci.rr.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:24:17 -0500 Subject: Email change In-Reply-To: <880dece00812240024veaecd82n2e78d83e091a9153@mail.gmail.com> References: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <200812240853.54993.kassube@gmx.net> <880dece00812240024veaecd82n2e78d83e091a9153@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812241524.17807.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> On Wednesday 24 December 2008 3:24:14 am Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/24 Nils Kassube : > > Jerry Lapham wrote: > >> Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this > >> list? I've gone to > >> and input my > >> new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a > >> confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from > >> the list keeps coming to the old address. > > > > You could try to subscribe with the new address and then unsubscribe with > > the old one. > > That is what the OP said he is doing. > > OP: Try checking your spam filters and quarantine boxes. Not running any spam filters in Kmail or on the email server. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at fuse.net ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 21:16:24 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:16:24 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241837.12612.kassube@gmx.net> <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > With your file manager right click on a movie file and select > > properties. Click on the button with the wrench icon beside the file > > name. There you can add Mplayer (if necessary). Then move the Mplayer > > line to the top > > What did that accomplish? When I then clicked on a movie it still > defaulted to kaffeine. > > > make it the default. > > Where is the default option? There is the big area marked "Application preference order" with the applications which are registered to play your movie. The first one is the default application. So if mplayer is below the first line, click on the line which says mplayer and click the "Move up" button until mplayer is in the top line. If you click OK now, mplayer should be the default application for this type of movies. > > Click on the modify button and select the program tab. My guess of the English button name was wrong - actually it is "Edit...". > Since I made the recent changes, I click on SystemMenu and it opens, > however the choices within the menu will not open. Do you mean the System Menu beside the K-Menu? And what doesn't open there? IMHO that menu has nothing to do with the preference of applications for playing movies. > > Probably the command is "mplayer %u" or something similar. Change it > > to "mplayer -fs %u", i.e. write "-fs" after "mplayer". Then Mplayer > > will always start in full screen mode. > > Nils, if I typed in mplayer -16:9 %u would that default the aspect > ratio to 16:9? My mplayer version doesn't know a "-16:9" option but it does know "-monitoraspect 16:9". With that option the command would be "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u". But it doesn't change anything with the movie I have tried. Anyway, did you try if "-fs" gives a usable result? Nils From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 21:17:37 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:17:37 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: References: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> Ray Burke wrote: > I don't quite understand, you mean just connect singularly my 40gb > Kubuntu and reboot with a Ubuntu live cd, and when its loaded as trial > then go to a terminal window and type sudo swapoff -ato turn off, then > what?????????? Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD. Open a terminal and type "sudo swapoff -a". Start gparted either from the menu or with the command "gksu gparted" at the terminal. Sorry, I don't have a spare disk to play with, so the following description is from memory. Select the disk you want to modify (if there are several disks in your machine). Then you can click on the bars which depict the individual partitons and move the margin of the bar with the mouse or enter new numbers for the space of the partition and the free space before / after the partition. Finally apply the changes by clicking on the appropriate button or select apply from one of the menues. Nils From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 21:24:48 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:24:48 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, when you say Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD, you dont install just try (demo) the live cd, and do the rest, select the disc etc???????? ray PS merry xmas to you > From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:17:37 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > I don't quite understand, you mean just connect singularly my 40gb> > Kubuntu and reboot with a Ubuntu live cd, and when its loaded as trial> > then go to a terminal window and type sudo swapoff -ato turn off, then> > what??????????> > Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD. Open a terminal and type "sudo swapoff -a". > Start gparted either from the menu or with the command "gksu gparted" at > the terminal.> > Sorry, I don't have a spare disk to play with, so the following > description is from memory. Select the disk you want to modify (if there > are several disks in your machine). Then you can click on the bars which > depict the individual partitons and move the margin of the bar with the > mouse or enter new numbers for the space of the partition and the free > space before / after the partition. Finally apply the changes by clicking > on the appropriate button or select apply from one of the menues.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 24 21:34:14 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:34:14 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: References: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812242234.14974.kassube@gmx.net> Ray Burke wrote: > when you say Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD, you dont install just try > (demo) the live cd, and do the rest, select the disc etc???????? Right. Select the demo mode, not install mode. In the demo mode you have a working system which can run gparted. You don't want to install anything. Nils From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 21:39:31 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:39:31 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812242234.14974.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> <200812242234.14974.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, Thankyou very much for you help, I will attempt to do all this in next couple of days, as I want to enjoy the festive season now as its xmas day here in Australia????? ray> From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:34:14 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > when you say Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD, you dont install just try> > (demo) the live cd, and do the rest, select the disc etc????????> > Right. Select the demo mode, not install mode. In the demo mode you have a > working system which can run gparted. You don't want to install anything.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 21:58:24 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:58:24 +0100 Subject: Sudden difficulty to access the STYLES AND FORMATTING menu (O.O. Writer 2.4.1 at Kubuntu 8.10) Message-ID: Dear Everybody At present, I use Open Office Writer at Kubuntu Intrepid (8.10). Version number: 2.4.1. This is a quite new version, I think. Till yesterday, the STYLES AND FORMATTING menu worked perfectly well for me. I use it frequently. But ever since today, I do not at any more manage to access this menu: not via the icon, also not via FORMAT > Styles and formatting, also not via F11. I still do see the Styles and formatting icon via the formatting toolbar. (VIEW > Toolbars > Formatting). However, in the field, immediately next to the toolbar, I can click at only a number of profiles - standard, heading 1 and a few more. But the tabs via which I can choose for the page and numbering profiles, have completely vanished. I do also not any more manage to unfix or fix the styles and formatting icon - it is completely stuck where it is now. Who can help me out of this stagnation? Is there any bug related to this issue? In the mean time, I DID manage to fix and unfix the FORMATTING tool bar, including the styles and formatting icon. But by doing so, I did not manage to solve the problem reported. The only way now, I manage to 'solve' the problem provisionally, is to open an own document template and to use the 'Format paijnt brush'. But this is not at all a safe, structural solution. Thanks for your answers. Respectfully Yours, Bas roufs. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From jonorland at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 22:35:16 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:35:16 +0100 Subject: Strange permissions on mounted dvd In-Reply-To: <200812240855.35139.kassube@gmx.net> References: <03d826-bli.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <200812240855.35139.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/24 Nils Kassube : > The problem seems to be wrong permissions on the DVD media, not from udev. > I have checked the commercial DVDs I have and a home made one (made with > DeVeDe). They all have the same UID/GID 4294967295/4294967295 which is > just the highest available 32 bit unsigned integer (2^32-1). As there is > no user known with that UID/GID, ls just shows the number. But all my > DVDs had permissions dr-xr-xr-x not dr--r--r--. As root doesn't care > about the missing x bit for directories, the "sudo ls" command was > successful. Now the question is what type of DVD is it? Is it a > commercial one or home made? If it is home made, what program was used to > create it? > I tested with some home burned data DVD he got (so for the record the ABBA album was not mine) with mp3 files on it and a audio CD. There where burned with Roxio on Windows XP. And all got the same permission problem. I checked some different DVD's on my computer and for commercial DVD movies i got the 4294967295 uid/gid, all other, like home made DVD movies and data DVD got root as uid/gid for the mountpoint and the files and dirs on the DVD. For all the different DVD's the permissions on the mounted DVD is like: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1478299476 2005-10-14 23:11 0compressed.zip dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 2005-10-14 23:12 AutoRun and the mount options is: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,utf8,user=jonas) As far as i understand iso9660 and UDF don't use file permissions if you don't use the Rock Ridge extensions and don't thinks thats likely. How can I see if a DVD uses Rock Ridge? For file systems that don't have file permissions it should be "emulated" in the kernel and changed with the mount options, right? I don't think it has anything to do with the DVD media or how it's burned. I think it has something to do with HAL or mount and some options passed to those but why and what?. Thanks for answering my mail. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 00:22:27 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:22:27 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/24 Steven Vollom : > Hi Jonas, > > I choose MPlayer too, because it has the aspect ratio feature. That too seems > wasteful in terms of mouse clicks. Each time I open a movie, I have to > right-click on the title, then choose 16:9 for aspect ratio. It would be > better just to click on the title of the movie and have it open as I wish, > without having to make so many choices. If it is a 4:3 aspect ration, > nothing prohibits me from clicking on that choice, the few times it happens. > > Steven > You can change the aspect ratio in Kaffeine to by pressing F5, F6, F7, F8 or F9 or from the menu, Player > Video > Aspect ratio (don't know the exact english translation). / Jonas From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 02:17:45 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:17:45 -0500 Subject: Kmail sending problem. In-Reply-To: <200812240638.04825.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200812132254.19697.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812231954.12821.valtermura@gmail.com> <200812232011.12477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812240638.04825.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <1230171465.1813.85.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 06:38 -0500, David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 8:11:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > >Try Google and leave AT&T and send an advice to all your friend. > > > IMHO. > > > > I don't understand; if I cancel AT&T, I am no longer connected to the > > internet. The only Google DSL service is a joke service through your > > toilet. That isn't real. Is there another Google DSL service. > > > > I pay $15 per month for DSL service with AT&T. That is all I can afford. > > All the other services for that price, have bundled services requirements. > > I can't afford the other bundled services. > > If I understand correctly; Steven, Valter did not recommend switching DSL > providers, only mail providers. > > Steven, you can use any free mail provider you want it does not have to be > AT&T. Although you will still get your Internet through AT&T you do not have > to use their mail service. You can use Yahoo's free service, but they make you > pay to download your messages into a mail client such as Kontact. Or you can > use Gmail's free service (at least I think it's free) or you could use the > free MSN mail service, and so on and so forth. > > There's plenty of free mailbox providers, with no need to switch your DSL > services. gmail, with only one or two instances, has worked flawless for me, my spam has dropped a lot, and using their pop service is free. Yahoo, OTOH, had a pay service for pop and spam out the whazoo. Just my two cents, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 25 02:54:27 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:54:27 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812242154.27992.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > My mplayer version doesn't know a "-16:9" option but it does > know "-monitoraspect 16:9". With that option the command would > be "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u". But it doesn't change anything with > the movie I have tried. Anyway, did you try if "-fs" gives a usable > result? I took your advice, however, now, when it opens, it opens to, I believe, 12:9 aspect ratio. Additionally, the right-click that used to reveal properties is no longer enabled. If you right click nothing happens; if you try to resize it closes and you start over from the beginning. Pause, mute, aspect ratio, are among features that I miss. I think I would almost prefer going through the steps of choosing the 16:9 aspect ratio than have it open on a single click. I like to be able to pause to refresh myself or mute if someone calls on the telephone. If I want to stop or quiet a movie, I have to turn it off and start over. I do like how it jumps into a movie though. That method of configuration is a no nonsense opening of a movie. If it just had the 16:9 aspect ratio, I believe I wouldn't mind losing the other features so much. By the way, where did you find the 'monitoraspect choice'? Did you just make it up and the computer understood? I would like to know how to do that. Meli Kalikimaka, in Hawaiian that is Merry Christmas. My son-in-law is a native of Maui. You should hear when my 5 year old grandbaby says that, or when she says Happy Birthday Jesus, it ties your heart in a knot. Cheers! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 25 03:06:29 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:06:29 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812242206.29345.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u Here are some attempts I made trying to set a default monitor aspect ratio of 16:9. Please see if you can make a recommendation that might work? Thanks! StevenMPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 4) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing %u. File not found: '%u' Failed to open %u. Exiting... (End of file) steven at Studio25:~$ mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 4) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. Usage: mplayer [options] [url|path/]filename Basic options: (complete list in the man page) -vo select video output driver ('-vo help' for a list) -ao select audio output driver ('-ao help' for a list) vcd:// play (S)VCD (Super Video CD) track (raw device, no mount) dvd:// play DVD title from device instead of plain file -alang/-slang select DVD audio/subtitle language (by 2-char country code) -ss seek to given (seconds or hh:mm:ss) position -nosound do not play sound -fs fullscreen playback (or -vm, -zoom, details in the man page) -x -y set display resolution (for use with -vm or -zoom) -sub specify subtitle file to use (also see -subfps, -subdelay) -playlist specify playlist file -vid x -aid y select video (x) and audio (y) stream to play -fps x -srate y change video (x fps) and audio (y Hz) rate -pp enable postprocessing filter (details in the man page) -framedrop enable frame dropping (for slow machines) Basic keys: (complete list in the man page, also check input.conf) <- or -> seek backward/forward 10 seconds down or up seek backward/forward 1 minute pgdown or pgup seek backward/forward 10 minutes < or > step backward/forward in playlist p or SPACE pause movie (press any key to continue) q or ESC stop playing and quit program + or - adjust audio delay by +/- 0.1 second o cycle OSD mode: none / seekbar / seekbar + timer * or / increase or decrease PCM volume x or z adjust subtitle delay by +/- 0.1 second r or t adjust subtitle position up/down, also see -vf expand * * * SEE THE MAN PAGE FOR DETAILS, FURTHER (ADVANCED) OPTIONS AND KEYS * * * steven at Studio25:~$ mplayer -monitoraspect -x 16 -y 6 MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 4) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. The monitoraspect option must be a floating point number or a ratio (numerator[:/]denominator): -x Error parsing option on the command line: -monitoraspect steven at Studio25:~$ mplayer -monitoraspect -x/16 -y/9 MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 4) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. The monitoraspect option must be a floating point number or a ratio (numerator[:/]denominator): -x/16 Error parsing option on the command line: -monitoraspect steven at Studio25:~$ mplayer -monitoraspect -x <16> -y <9> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `16' steven at Studio25:~$ Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 25 03:14:01 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:14:01 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812242214.02189.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > You can change the aspect ratio in Kaffeine to by pressing F5, F6, F7, > F8 or F9 or from the menu, Player > Video > Aspect ratio (don't know > the exact english translation). When the aspect ratio opened, none of the choices were active. I could not set aspect. Additionally there was no choice for 16:9 which is what I prefer. Thanks Jonas, Steven From rjlapham at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 06:48:00 2008 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:48:00 -0500 Subject: Email change In-Reply-To: <200812241524.17807.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> References: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <880dece00812240024veaecd82n2e78d83e091a9153@mail.gmail.com> <200812241524.17807.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <200812250148.01228.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Wednesday 24 December 2008 3:24:17 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Wednesday 24 December 2008 3:24:14 am Dotan Cohen wrote: > > 2008/12/24 Nils Kassube : > > > Jerry Lapham wrote: > > >> Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this > > >> list? I've gone to > > >> and input my > > >> new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a > > >> confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from > > >> the list keeps coming to the old address. > > > > > > You could try to subscribe with the new address and then unsubscribe > > > with the old one. > > > > That is what the OP said he is doing. > > > > OP: Try checking your spam filters and quarantine boxes. Gave up and set up a Gmail account. No trouble using it. Can't understand why Cincinnati Bell (fuse.net) and kubuntu-users didn't get along. -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "It's sherbert," said Tom icily. From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 25 06:58:02 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:58:02 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812242154.27992.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> <200812242154.27992.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812250758.02766.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > > My mplayer version doesn't know a "-16:9" option but it does > > know "-monitoraspect 16:9". With that option the command would > > be "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u". But it doesn't change anything > > with the movie I have tried. Anyway, did you try if "-fs" gives a > > usable result? > > I took your advice, however, now, when it opens, it opens to, I > believe, 12:9 aspect ratio. Additionally, the right-click that used to > reveal properties is no longer enabled. If you right click nothing > happens; if you try to resize it closes and you start over from the > beginning. I think we are talking about different applications. Could it be that you originally meant Kmplayer or Gnome-mplayer instead? When I right-click on a movie playing with mplayer (without any extra options) then nothing happens. > Pause, mute, aspect ratio, are among features that I miss. I think I > would almost prefer going through the steps of choosing the 16:9 aspect > ratio than have it open on a single click. I like to be able to pause > to refresh myself or mute if someone calls on the telephone. If I want > to stop or quiet a movie, I have to turn it off and start over. I do > like how it jumps into a movie though. That method of configuration is > a no nonsense opening of a movie. If it just had the 16:9 aspect > ratio, I believe I wouldn't mind losing the other features so much. With mplayer you could use the space key for pause. Somehow the mute option (key m) doesn't work for me. However the appropriate keys for volume, mute and pause on my multimedia keyboard do work. But I don't know how to change the aspect ratio while playing a movie. If you aren't using the full screen mode (option -fs) you can resize the movie if you drag the border of the mplayer window with the mouse. > By the way, where did you find the 'monitoraspect choice'? Did you > just make it up and the computer understood? I would like to know how > to do that. I found it in the man page. Use the command "man mplayer" in a terminal to read it or type "man:mplayer" in the konqueror address bar. You might as well install the package mplayer-doc and read the file /usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/index.html with konqueror. And about your other mail: "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u" is what should be entered as the command in the configuration for the file association. If you use it to start a movie from the command line it would be the filename instead of the "%u". Nils From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 07:08:04 2008 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:08:04 -0500 Subject: Email change In-Reply-To: <200812250148.01228.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <200812231828.22865.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <880dece00812240024veaecd82n2e78d83e091a9153@mail.gmail.com> <200812241524.17807.rjlapham@cinci.rr.com> <200812250148.01228.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1230188885.10459.11.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 01:48 -0500, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Wednesday 24 December 2008 3:24:17 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > On Wednesday 24 December 2008 3:24:14 am Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > 2008/12/24 Nils Kassube : > > > > Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > >> Is anyone else having trouble changing their email address for this > > > >> list? I've gone to > > > >> and input my > > > >> new email address several times. Each time I get a reply that a > > > >> confirmation message has been sent but it never shows up and mail from > > > >> the list keeps coming to the old address. > > > > > > > > You could try to subscribe with the new address and then unsubscribe > > > > with the old one. > > > > > > That is what the OP said he is doing. > > > > > > OP: Try checking your spam filters and quarantine boxes. > > Gave up and set up a Gmail account. No trouble using it. Can't understand > why Cincinnati Bell (fuse.net) and kubuntu-users didn't get along. I think you'll be far happier now! Merry Xmas!! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Thu Dec 25 07:12:39 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:12:39 -0500 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: It would appear that on Dec 24 2008, Lindsay Mathieson did say: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:03:08 am D. R. Evans wrote: > > > > If you have particular features you want to see, I would encourage > > you to file a wishlist item at bugs.kde.org. > > Is you do so, let the list know so we can vote for it - I would. Changes submitted for bug 151534 [Which unfortunately is considered resolved] By the way, I've just noticed a related issue with the way krunner points at krusader in my newly installed and apt-get upgraded kubuntu 8.10. It's command completion insists on pointing at a root session of it (which I wouldn't use krusader for) until the very last character of the command is entered... Does anyone know if that's kde 4.1.3 itself, or something in how it's implemented in intrepid??? Likewise I'm getting frustrated by the keyboard shortcut setting in systensettings under plasma workspace [application launcher] When I first installed 8.10, it's default + worked. But as soon as I changed to the classic Kmemu style instead of the kickoff style menu the keyboard short cut stopped working. And switching back to ugg kickoff didn't fix it. I've confirmed that it is still set to +. -- | ^^^ ^^^ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <> | | From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 25 07:34:19 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:34:19 -0500 Subject: Merry Christmas to all of you. Message-ID: <200812250234.19590.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Steven From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 08:02:14 2008 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:02:14 +0100 Subject: Kmenu and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200812241355.34325.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <494D0273.2000700@swbell.net> <200812231431.34648.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812241355.34325.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 15:53:59 Knapp wrote: >> > Which I think was the point of others who suggested that developers OUGHT >> > to monitor lists concerning their projects. >> > >> > Some development teams seem to designate one from the team to monitor and >> > participate in the lists. I believe this is a good practice. >> > > >> >> I agree but what if that person has biases? > > EVERYONE has biases. Nonetheless, someone should have their nose to the > ground. > Agreed. But there are the people that acknowledge this and do there best to avoid them like good scientists should and then those that will edit and change things just to promote their ideas. I was thinking about the later type. -- Douglas E Knapp Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 08:16:31 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:16:31 -0700 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: References: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4953415F.6020509@gmail.com> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook said the following at 12/25/2008 12:12 AM : > It would appear that on Dec 24 2008, Lindsay Mathieson did say: > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:03:08 am D. R. Evans wrote: >>> If you have particular features you want to see, I would encourage >>> you to file a wishlist item at bugs.kde.org. >> Is you do so, let the list know so we can vote for it - I would. > > Changes submitted for bug 151534 [Which unfortunately is considered > resolved] I just did a test. I started krunner three times. The first time I entered "emacs test1". The second time I entered "emacs test2". The third time I entered "emacs" and looked at the command history. Both "emacs test1" and "emacs test2" were there and selectable. That seems to be what you're asking for, so I imagine that that's why Aaron has marked this bug resolved. If you don't agree that that test shows the behaviour you want, I think you should start a new bug, and VERY CLEARLY walk through a use case that shows the behaviour you want, and why it's different from what happens now. (Also, I suggest that you don't address more than one wish in a single bug report; your icon wish should be put into a separate report. I know it's tempting to put multiple stuff in one report, but it's much cleaner if there's just one wish in each bug report.) Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 25 08:26:51 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:26:51 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812250758.02766.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242154.27992.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812250758.02766.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812250326.52100.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > I think we are talking about different applications. No, MPlayer has been that special video player to be. The very reason it is, is because of the options and choices. My memory suggests that the first time I used that feature, I was watching a movie when someone called me on the telephone. I didn't want to loose my place in my movie; I didn't want to put pleasure in front of someone's telephone call. I right clicked looking for options and for the menu. There are more choices on the MPlayer options list than any other player. I found myself pausing for interruptions daily. Some times when watching non verbal geographical interests, I would keep the video going while attending to the interruption. Always when watching a movie, I would set the aspect ratio to 16:9. The list of controllable events is too numerous to remember, however, always there when you needed them. The only feature that Kaffeine had that I preferred was the ability to play a movie, edit the position of the film by putting the cursor on the bottom of the screen and having a dashboard to make adjustments. I could skip offensive scenes by a single click or return to review something extra interesting using the same single click. MPlayer required a couple of clicks to get the same choice, and a click to get that choice off the screen. It was, however, never enough reason to use Kaffeine as a default, even though it always presumed the position. When I changed the configuration to have the instant on with an expanded view, I love the ability to right click the options that made MPlayer special. If I could figure out how to get those features, I would return to the former configuration, because although the new features are terrific, they do not exceed multiple benefits of the options lost. > Could it be that you originally meant Kmplayer or Gnome-mplayer instead? Neither are on my computer. > When I right-click on a movie playing with mplayer (without any extra >options) then nothing happens. If we both have the selfsame configuration I am sure that is correct, however, if you had my previous configuration, you would have the option panel too. > With mplayer you could use the space key for pause. I have never been able to remember the key-stroke shortcuts. I wish I could remember to take the time to learn them. I suspect they are not as easy to place in memory as they seem to be. I think that is a right-brain handicap. It is too intellectual and not enough visual to be an easy concept. I am stuck with my artist's mind. But eventually, if I live long enough I will remember to learn how to use them. >If you aren't using the full screen mode (option -fs) you can resize the movie if you drag the border of the mplayer window with the mouse. I wish I had known this. That was the most important reason for using MPlayer, other than the fact that MPlayer default opening is a window about an inch and a half tall by three inches wide. > I found it in the man page. Use the command "man mplayer" in a terminal to > read it or type "man:mplayer" in the konqueror address bar. I am just starting to remember to use the man pages from time to time. It is not the first thought when I need it. My natural inclination is to look for the GUI option. Sometimes it exists, sometimes not. I am really enjoying this aspect of learning; when I start thinking properly when facing a problem, I will be able to stop bothering you all so much. > You might as well install the package mplayer-doc and read the > file /usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/index.html with konqueror. You can see my naturally screwy thought process. I have almost a dozen MPlayer related packages installed and not mplayer-doc. I have it now and will spend a lot of time in their this day. It will give me something to do when everyone else is busy. > And about your other mail: "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u" is what should > be entered as the command in the configuration for the file association. > If you use it to start a movie from the command line it would be the > filename instead of the "%u". mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u is what I included, however, when I open a movie, it still goes back to the 12:9 configuration, so this automatic open feature is lacking the most important reason for my using MPlayer, 16:9 aspect ratio. In any event it is a small matter, but I would still rather the extra event clicking than losing the aspect ratio opportunity. It just makes a movie better. You are a great teacher Nils. I am grateful for the time you spend with me. I hope others who are like me and would not think to ask the appropriate questions without the wonderful input you give that stimulates the thoughts. Merry Christmas and/or Happy Hanakkuh whichever appropriate, on this Holy Day. This forum is a year round Christmas present to me. Steven From godasiva at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 09:19:53 2008 From: godasiva at gmail.com (Siva Goda) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:49:53 +0530 Subject: Syncing the Mobile Phone Message-ID: <1230196793.7520.1.camel@siva-laptop> Sir, I am new to kubuntu and am keen to use it for majority of my needs. I need to sync the Calendar and Contacts on my Mobile Phone Nokia E61i or other symbian phones as I require them for maintaining my professional (Advocate) committments. Help me to do this either in Kmail; Konqueror; Korganiser; Kontact; or even evolution. This info would be of immense help to me of using linux in preference to the Windows Vista From jonorland at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 11:57:08 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:57:08 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812242214.02189.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812232239.22146.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242214.02189.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: 2008/12/25 Steven Vollom : > >> You can change the aspect ratio in Kaffeine to by pressing F5, F6, F7, >> F8 or F9 or from the menu, Player > Video > Aspect ratio (don't know >> the exact english translation). > > When the aspect ratio opened, none of the choices were active. I could not > set aspect. Additionally there was no choice for 16:9 which is what I > prefer. > > Thanks Jonas, > Steven > > Pressing F7 gives me 16:9 aspect ratio. Changing the aspect resolution to something that the video source is not will stretch the image so it looks strange. Many LCD TV will as default stretch the picture so it will fill the screen no matter what aspect ratio the source got and i just hate it, but others thinks it's more important that the picture fills the whole screen then that a circle is round. / Jonas From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 12:28:11 2008 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:28:11 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <880dece00812231342yff0bf61x81c40b959bf37aac@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <495158D6.8040806@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231342yff0bf61x81c40b959bf37aac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812251428.12145.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Tuesday, 23 December 2008 23:42:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Correct, from konsolekalendar and then mutilated for my own needs. > I found a potential way via Firefox... http://torisugari.googlepages.com/commandlineprint2 Perhaps konqueror has some tricks too? \d From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 12:45:40 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:45:40 +0200 Subject: Printing HTML file via lpr: page, not code! In-Reply-To: <200812251428.12145.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <880dece00812231110k7e68f47fgfc0e0d8415e3dda6@mail.gmail.com> <495158D6.8040806@gatech.edu> <880dece00812231342yff0bf61x81c40b959bf37aac@mail.gmail.com> <200812251428.12145.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00812250445x58e30371le3c9302e2966a94e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/25 Donn : > On Tuesday, 23 December 2008 23:42:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Correct, from konsolekalendar and then mutilated for my own needs. >> > I found a potential way via Firefox... > http://torisugari.googlepages.com/commandlineprint2 > > Perhaps konqueror has some tricks too? > \d > Thanks, that's great! I installed it in a spare Firefox profile and it works nicely. I had just discovered gnome-web-print which also does a good job. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From khashayar.lists at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 13:25:02 2008 From: khashayar.lists at gmail.com (Khashayar Naderehvandi) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:25:02 +0100 Subject: knotify4 on kde 4.2 Message-ID: Hi all, I just started subscribing on this list after trying the KDE 4.2 beta packages on my intrepid system. I must say I'm mighty impressed! KDE 4.2 will most probably see my moving over to Kubuntu. There are, of course, a few issues. And one of them is knotify4 showing up really high on powertop. I know there has been issues with this before, issues that are supposedly resolved by now. I've seen a bunch of upstream bug reports marked as fixed. Still, I see knotify4 causing lots and lots of wakeups in kde 4.2. Can anyone shed some light on the issue? Is it fixed or not? The thing is, if I killall knotify4, and then restart it, it will not cause many wakeups. All the best, Khashayar From ash8kewl at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 17:15:11 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:45:11 +0530 Subject: Uninstalling Kubuntu 8.10 Message-ID: Hi all, I am very new to Linux. I succeeded in installing my first ever Linux OS : Kubuntu 8.10 by Live USB while having Win XP as the other platform. I wish to migrate to Ubuntu Studio. Can i get a guide on how to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10 ? Thank you. - Ash -- Generate space in life by generating space in our own mind!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Again, I stress, back up your important files! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From randy.earl at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 17:45:57 2008 From: randy.earl at gmail.com (Randy) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:45:57 +0100 Subject: Syncing the Mobile Phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812251845.58058.randy.earl@gmail.com> >Sir, >        >        I am new to kubuntu and am keen to use it for majority of my >        needs.  I >        need to sync the Calendar and Contacts on my Mobile Phone Nokia >        E61i or other symbian phones as >        I require them for maintaining my professional (Advocate) >        committments. >        Help me to do this either in Kmail; Konqueror; Korganiser; >        Kontact; or >        even evolution.   >        >        This info would be of immense help to me of using linux in >        preference to >        the Windows Vista I use Kmail and sync it with my Nokia E71. To perform the sync I use http://www.memotoo.com/, which I selected for many reasons. It charges a fee (about $15 per year as I recall), but I found that imminently reasonable for the value I get from them. Memotoo allows me to sync my email and PIM data across four machine/OS combinations (using dIMAP with my Gmail account), and sync effortlessly with my phone. I am very satisfied with the service. Earlier I used Evolution with the Syncevolution application to perform the sync, but with Kmail I can do it realtime via syncml. I would provide more info, but I'm packing to catch an early flight. Randy From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Dec 25 17:48:29 2008 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:48:29 +0200 Subject: Syncing the Mobile Phone In-Reply-To: <1230196793.7520.1.camel@siva-laptop> References: <1230196793.7520.1.camel@siva-laptop> Message-ID: <880dece00812250948m72d59472odd9a8a68844e54dc@mail.gmail.com> 2008/12/25 Siva Goda : > Sir, > > I am new to kubuntu and am keen to use it for majority of my > needs. I > need to sync the Calendar and Contacts on my Mobile Phone Nokia > E61i or other symbian phones as > I require them for maintaining my professional (Advocate) > committments. > Help me to do this either in Kmail; Konqueror; Korganiser; > Kontact; or > even evolution. > > This info would be of immense help to me of using linux in > preference to > the Windows Vista > You might want to look into Opensync, but I warn you that now is not a good time to start. The current stable Opensync release is 0.2x which is about two years out of date. The 0.40 branch will be ready in a few months and I am waiting for that one to stabilize before I start syncing. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu Dec 25 18:03:49 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:03:49 +0100 Subject: Uninstalling Kubuntu 8.10 In-Reply-To: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/25 Ash : >> Hi all, >> I am very new to Linux. >> I succeeded in installing my first ever Linux OS : Kubuntu 8.10 by Live USB >> while having Win XP as the other platform. >> I wish to migrate to Ubuntu Studio. >> Can i get a guide on how to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10 ? >> Thank you. >> > > Ask, just back up your files and install Ubuntu Studio to the > partition where Kubuntu is. An OS is not uninstalled like an > application is. The way to remove an OS is to format the partition in > which is resides. Installing another OS to that partition will do > that. > > Again, I stress, back up your important files! > Although this is not an answer to your question, please note, that you definitely do NOT need to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10. sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop will install ubuntu studio into your existing 8.10 installation. Kind regards Eberhard From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Dec 25 18:06:14 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:06:14 +0200 Subject: Uninstalling Kubuntu 8.10 In-Reply-To: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4953CB96.8080905@mail.ee> >> I am very new to Linux. >> I succeeded in installing my first ever Linux OS : Kubuntu 8.10 by Live USB >> while having Win XP as the other platform. >> I wish to migrate to Ubuntu Studio. >> Can i get a guide on how to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10 ? >> Thank you. >> > > Ask, just back up your files and install Ubuntu Studio to the > partition where Kubuntu is. An OS is not uninstalled like an > application is. The way to remove an OS is to format the partition in > which is resides. Installing another OS to that partition will do > that. > > Again, I stress, back up your important files! > Exactly - just backup your important data and boot from the Ubuntu Studio CD (or DVD) and choose the same mount points and mark the format checkbox. Swap partition will not be formatted and it's OK. Then follow the instructions on screen. That's it! Some guides: http://www.ubustu.com/globe/ubuntu-studio-install-guide/ http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntustudio_7.04 - with screenshots and passes also newer versions http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Ubuntu-Studio-54514.shtml more guides - http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+studio+install From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Dec 25 18:27:21 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:27:21 +0200 Subject: Uninstalling Kubuntu 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4953D089.1050500@mail.ee> >>> Hi all, >>> I am very new to Linux. >>> I succeeded in installing my first ever Linux OS : Kubuntu 8.10 by Live USB >>> while having Win XP as the other platform. >>> I wish to migrate to Ubuntu Studio. >>> Can i get a guide on how to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10 ? >>> Thank you. >>> >> Ask, just back up your files and install Ubuntu Studio to the >> partition where Kubuntu is. An OS is not uninstalled like an >> application is. The way to remove an OS is to format the partition in >> which is resides. Installing another OS to that partition will do >> that. >> >> Again, I stress, back up your important files! >> > Although this is not an answer to your question, please note, that you > definitely do NOT > need to uninstall Kubuntu 8.10. > > sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop > > will install ubuntu studio into your existing 8.10 installation. That's right! Great idea! I suggest: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntustudio-desktop && sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean This will update repository information and then install ubuntu studio and then little housekeeping. Then after restart you have ubuntu studio From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu Dec 25 18:32:04 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:32:04 +0200 Subject: Uninstalling Kubuntu 8.10 In-Reply-To: <4953D089.1050500@mail.ee> References: <880dece00812250929p6d76ae3ala035e56394729159@mail.gmail.com> <4953D089.1050500@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4953D1A4.2050109@mail.ee> > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntustudio-desktop && > sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean Better this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntustudio-desktop && sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot Copy this to the terminal window, press enter, enter your password and watch the action and after PC automatically restarts, you have Ubuntu Studio :) Then after restart I suggest upgrade: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot Now you have after restart up-to-date Ubuntu Studio! From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Thu Dec 25 19:39:13 2008 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:39:13 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <200812211917.00623.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200812210949.20488.kassube@gmx.net> <200812211917.00623.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200812252039.13250.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> On Sunday 21 December 2008 19:17:00 Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 09:49:20 Nils Kassube wrote: > > karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be wrote: > > > Using KDE4.2 (beta2)... > > > I have the following problem. > > > Kontact crasches each time when i startup. > > > > > > This is what i get; > > > Programma: Kontact (kontact), signaal SIGABRT > > > > Maybe there is a problem with the configuration file for kontact. Take a > > look at the directory "$HOME/.kde/share/config". There should be a > > file "kontactrc". Move that file to another location (e.g. your home > > directory) as a backup in case there is some valuable setting in that > > file. Then restart kontact - does it still crash? BTW: I can't check it > > here because I'm not yet using KDE4. > > > > > > Nils > > i' ve tried this but there is no change... Can i remove the config folder completely? Will the files be created again? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 25 20:58:37 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:58:37 +0100 Subject: Kontact crasch on startup In-Reply-To: <200812252039.13250.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200812211917.00623.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200812252039.13250.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200812252158.37846.kassube@gmx.net> Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Can i remove the config folder completely? > Will the files be created again? Yes. However in the .kde folder there are also your stored emails and possibly other valuable data. Therefore I would suggest you rename the folder instead of removing it. Then you still have a chance to later retrieve those things you need. Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 26 02:20:05 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:20:05 -0500 Subject: I have lost a group of Icons on my menu. Message-ID: <200812252120.06070.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Just below the file menu line, I used to have a row of Icons. The first in line would be 'write'. When I clicked on it, a template of an email would appear, and I would write my email. That row of Icons is missing now. Did that happen when I updated? Or is it the result of something I have done. I now have to open File>New>Message to open the template. That adds two extra steps to opening the template and doesn't seem an improvement. So I suspect I have screwed up again somewhere that caused the row of Icons to disappear. Has anyone else experienced this recently? Steven From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Fri Dec 26 02:45:36 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:45:36 -0500 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: <4953415F.6020509@gmail.com> References: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4953415F.6020509@gmail.com> Message-ID: It would appear that on Thu Dec 25 2008, D. R. Evans did say: > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook said the following at 12/25/2008 12:12 AM : > > Changes submitted for bug 151534 [Which unfortunately is considered > > resolved] > > I just did a test. > > I started krunner three times. The first time I entered > "emacs test1". The second time I entered "emacs test2". > The third time I entered "emacs" and looked at the command > history. Both "emacs test1" and "emacs test2" were there > and selectable. > > That seems to be what you're asking for, so I imagine that > that's why Aaron has marked this bug resolved. > > If you don't agree that that test shows the behaviour you > want, I think you should start a new bug, and VERY CLEARLY > walk through a use case that shows the behaviour you want, > and why it's different from what happens now. OK I just rebooted into intrepid and ran a similar test. And I'll have to admit the functionality is there. And as much as I find 'click' only controls annoying, that little clickable button isn't that hard to access, even for someone with my lack of hand to screen coordination. Aside from the Icons, I guess the only reason why it's different from the behavior I wanted is that I'd like to be able to pop open that list without resorting to clicking with the {expletive deleted} rodent. It used to happen automatically as I type. But that's when krunner is busy inserting those icons. > (Also, I suggest that you don't address more than one wish > in a single bug report; your icon wish should be put into > a separate report. I know it's tempting to put multiple > stuff in one report, but it's much cleaner if there's just > one wish in each bug report.) So then I should maybe put in two new wish list reports: One asking for a keyboard shortcut being assigned to the button that pops open the list. (The down arrow would be an ideal default...) And the other asking for a configuration option to quell the use of those icons I find so distracting, -or- at least to quell the animated way they move into place. (As much as icons are to me a bunch of meaningless images, I think its the motion near the text I'm typing that distracts me the most. If I go there, I suppose I might as well assume that my issue with the way krunner pulls up the root version of krusader until I finish typing the whole command name is a kde issue unless the kde team tells me it's specific to kubuntu. So that would make three separate reports. the first two being wish list items. But I think the krusader item is more like a bug than a wish list item. Then there is the + kmenu shortcut that failed me as soon as I selected the classic kde style menu. But I'm not sure if I should post that against the kmenu or the keyboard shortcut section of systemsettings??? (A clue would be appreciated) I think I'll have to create another dummy user account in intrepid to see if the short cut still works until I switch away from the kickoff style menu before I write that one up. By the way, can anyone tell me how to use the keyboard to activate the menu in kde4's version of konsole? I didn't find a choice for that in the keyboard shortcut settings for it. Hmmmnnn, I'm up to 5 separate bug/wish list reports already... I'd say 6 reports, if I thought the kde bugzilla was the place to complain that inside the krusader application I can't get the file menu with +F, nor the edit menu with +E, nor any of the other menu categories with the combination of the alt key and the underscored character of the menu items label anymore... (Worked fine in the krusader I installed to previous versions of kubuntu, and other pre kde4 linux distro's...) I just want to limit the proliferation of unwanted graphic images (especially animated ones) While maintaining full keyboard oriented control of what I'm doing. Or at least to keep as much keyboard control as I've grown used to with kde3.x... But it seems like I'm going to have to invest a lot of time begging for it from developers who obviously both like point n' click, and think animated eye candy is a good thing. -- | ^^^ ^^^ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <> | ' ` From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 26 10:55:50 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:55:50 -0500 Subject: Happy New Year All Message-ID: <200812260555.50988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Steven From peterklaassen at quicknet.nl Fri Dec 26 12:53:27 2008 From: peterklaassen at quicknet.nl (Peter Klaassen) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:53:27 +0100 Subject: Rosetta In-Reply-To: <200812242119.40878.jjh.woldringh@planet.nl> References: <200812242119.40878.jjh.woldringh@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200812261353.27834.peterklaassen@quicknet.nl> Op Wednesday 24 December 2008 21:19:40 schreef Jaap Woldringh: > Lees dit eens, als je (K)Ubuntu gebruikt en je eraan ergert dat je > KDE-vertalingen daar weer eens om zeep zijn geholpen (wat kan ik dit netjes > zeggen hè?) > Ik stuur dit zowel naar de lijst voor KDE als voor Ubuntu :) > > http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=625&cpage=1#comment-4459 > > Groeten, > > Jaap Jaap, is er een Nederlandse lijst voor KDE? ik zit tot op heden alleen op Kubuntu Help and User Discussions -- Peter Registered Linux user # 458207 From ash8kewl at gmail.com Fri Dec 26 15:12:49 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:42:49 +0530 Subject: Installation of Ubuntu Studio 8.10 / Edmund Laugasson Message-ID: Dear Edmund, Thank you for your feedback on how I can go about installing Ubuntu Studio. As I shared earlier, I am a new user and needless to say a bit scared that if I do something wrong it might crash my notebook. In your Feedback: ---------------------------------- Better this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntustudio-desktop && sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot Copy this to the terminal window, press enter, enter your password and watch the action and after PC automatically restarts, you have Ubuntu Studio :) ---------------------------------- I am confused. At what stage do I enter the above to the Terminal Window? Will it be before the OS is selected? I currently have Win XP and Kubuntu 8.10 installed. I hope the above command will not affect the Win XP on my system. Do I need to have a CD Image of the Ubuntu Studio loaded in my CD-ROM? ---------------------------------- Then after restart I suggest upgrade: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot Now you have after restart up-to-date Ubuntu Studio! ----------------------------------- Do I need to be connected to internet for a live download for updates? Please do educate me further. Cannot wait to install Ubuntu Studio !!! :D Cheers!!! - Ash -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Open that message so it is displayed in your email agent. Goto another screen and open a terminal window. Go back to the screen showing the email, and holding the left mouse button down, slide the pointer from the beginning of that compound command to the end of it so that it is all highlighted. Now go back to the terminal window, and with the mouse pointer where the first character you would type would so, hit the middle mouse button, which should paste the highlighted text to the terminal screen. Hit enter, give it your user password and hit the enter key when it asks, and go get a cup of coffee. >---------------------------------- >I am confused. At what stage do I enter the above to the Terminal Window? >Will it be before the OS is selected? I currently have Win XP and Kubuntu >8.10 installed. I hope the above command will not affect the Win XP on my >system. It should not. >Do I need to have a CD Image of the Ubuntu Studio loaded in my CD-ROM? No, but you will need a working internet connection because all this will come from servers on the net and will be 100% up to date. As will be your install when it finishes the 2nd reboot below. >---------------------------------- > >Then after restart I suggest upgrade: > >sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo ldconfig && sudo >dpkg --configure -a && >sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot > >Now you have after restart up-to-date Ubuntu Studio! > >----------------------------------- > >Do I need to be connected to internet for a live download for updates? yes >Please do educate me further. Cannot wait to install Ubuntu Studio !!! :D > >Cheers!!! > >- Ash -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A wise man can see more from a mountain top than a fool can from the bottom of a well. From ash8kewl at gmail.com Fri Dec 26 17:54:58 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:54:58 +0700 Subject: Problems with Live USB Installtion of Ubuntustudio 8.10 Message-ID: Hi all, I downloaded the iso. of Ubuntustudio desktop 8.10 and extracted it on my USB drive through Live USB Creator just like I did for Kubuntu 8.10. Upon reboot, with my USB drive plugged in, I get the main page asking me to run installation or Check CD for errors etc. It shows 2 Errors. When I start off with the Installation everything is fine till I finish selecting my Keyboard. Then it starts looking for Hardware and seek the CD-Rom with installation file. Do I need to make a CD / DVD copy of the extracted files from my USB to make this installation successful? or is there a problem with the iso. image I downloaded and should I download another? Please advise. Thank you. Regards, Ash -- Generate space in life by generating space in our own mind!! From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 26 19:37:20 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:37:20 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812240856.58564.kassube@gmx.net> <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, I did that and had a problem, as it said was performing 1 of the 2 tasks 1/ reducing the 29gb sdbe to 20gb and after 3 hours came back with error 2/ enlarging the 8bg sdbe to 19gg, but did not even start cause of above error. am I supposed to in thew terminal type sudo swapoff -a or thru drop down menu of the 40gb disc, click swapoff, and when finished do I turn the swapon??????? ray PS I got some printouts form https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition?action print,and does not say anythink about swapoff?????? > From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:17:37 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > I don't quite understand, you mean just connect singularly my 40gb> > Kubuntu and reboot with a Ubuntu live cd, and when its loaded as trial> > then go to a terminal window and type sudo swapoff -ato turn off, then> > what??????????> > Reboot with the Ubuntu LiveCD. Open a terminal and type "sudo swapoff -a". > Start gparted either from the menu or with the command "gksu gparted" at > the terminal.> > Sorry, I don't have a spare disk to play with, so the following > description is from memory. Select the disk you want to modify (if there > are several disks in your machine). Then you can click on the bars which > depict the individual partitons and move the margin of the bar with the > mouse or enter new numbers for the space of the partition and the free > space before / after the partition. Finally apply the changes by clicking > on the appropriate button or select apply from one of the menues.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! 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URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Fri Dec 26 20:05:54 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:05:54 +0200 Subject: Installation of Ubuntu Studio 8.10 / Edmund Laugasson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49553922.1050408@mail.ee> PREAMBULA 1) You don't need any CD/DVD, because all program packets will be downloaded over the internet and they are always up-to-date 2) you need definitely a working internet connection, because all program packets will be downloaded over the internet IN SHORT: 1) when you see Kubuntu log in screen, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and you will see the command line interface 2) log in with the user you created, when you installed the system Kill the graphical user interface by typing: sudo killall kdm ... because we currently don't need it 3) download the scripts: wget http://linux.zeroconf.ee/scripts/install_ubuntu_studio.sh wget http://linux.zeroconf.ee/scripts/system_upgrade.sh 4) run the script: ./install_ubuntu_studio.sh ... enter your user password 5) after restart repeat the steps 1-2 and then run the second script ./system_upgrade.sh ... enter your user password 6) after system is restarted, you should have freshly installed and updated Ubuntu Studio For more explanations, please read further. > ---------------------------------- > Better this: > > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ubuntustudio-desktop && > sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg > --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean && sudo reboot > > Copy this to the terminal window, press enter, enter your password and > watch the action and after PC > automatically restarts, you have Ubuntu Studio :) > ---------------------------------- > > I am confused. At what stage do I enter the above to the Terminal > Window? As soon as you logged in. You don't need immediately to log in into graphical user interface (GUI) but it's more comfortable for beginner to use GUI. I made it simple for you: 1) After your system is booted up - you don't need immediately to log in through GUI - much easier is to guide you using CLI - command line interface. So, after your system booted up and you'll see Kubuntu login screen, then usually you type your username and password to graphical log in fields - don't type them and instead of this press CTRL+ALT+F1. Then you will see also login prompt but at command line. Log in as regular user what you created when you installed the system (then it's sure, that this user has administrator rights). Normally users are default in admin group, so they have administrator rights using user password. But if you created user later yourself, it may not have necessary admin rights. You can always switch back to GUI by using ALT+F7 keys. After login you will be at your home directory - you may check it by typing pwd (it means print working directory) and press enter. Then you will see, where you are. You can type it anytime to check, where you are. Kill the graphical user interface by typing: sudo killall kdm We don't need GUI to do all the job, so we can just kill it. If you need it, just run: sudo ls ...then enter your password. Now we have admin rights and you may type: sudo kdm & ... this will run K Display Manager (kdm) into background (&) and you can after that log off from command line. By using CTRL+ALT+F1 you can then switch back to the command line and log off from command line and continue to use GUI by switching back to the GUI by pressing ALT+F7. You may use up to 6 virtual consoles by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1....F6. Seventh console is the X session. 2) Download these scripts: wget http://linux.zeroconf.ee/scripts/install_ubuntu_studio.sh wget http://linux.zeroconf.ee/scripts/system_upgrade.sh They will be probably downloaded into your home directory, where you are after log in. These scripts are made executable, you may check it: ls -l install_ubuntu_studio.sh system_upgrade.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 username group 160 2008-12-26 20:23 install_ubuntu_studio.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 username group 144 2008-12-26 20:24 system_upgrade.sh first "rwx" tells us, that file owner (named "username") has rights to read (r), write (w), execute (x). The group (named "group", which is usually the same as username in Ubuntu), to where the owner belongs, has read and execute rights but not write right, because instead of "w" is "-". Also all others have same rights - read and execute. If you downloaded these scripts (which are actually text files), then owner and group is the user you logged in and you can freely change these scripts and their permissions. to give read and execute rights to all users, you can type: chmod a+rx install_ubuntu_studio.sh system_upgrade.sh If you need to be in administrator rights in future, just use sudo before: sudo chmod a+rx install_ubuntu_studio.sh system_upgrade.sh More reading about file and folder permissions can be read at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod http://www.catcode.com/teachmod/ http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html changing owner of the file/folder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown http://www.linfo.org/chown.html http://www.ss64.com/bash/chown.html http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchown.htm 3) You can always look inside the script by typing: less --> e.g. less install_ubuntu_studio.sh To quit from less, press q and enter Or better use: cat install_ubuntu_studio.sh ... because these scipts contain short text and less is useful for longer text Run first script by typing: ./install_ubuntu_studio.sh or sh install_ubuntu_studio.sh Enter your user password and watch the magic the script makes for you. You can use TAB-completion - just type first letter or letters of the script name and then press TAB and Linux will write the rest of scipt name. In this way you can avoid typos and error messages due to incorrect typing. after that run the upgrade script: ./system_upgrade.sh or sh system_upgrade.sh Enter your user password and watch the magic the script makes for you. Sometimes there is needed to fix broken packages: sudo apt-get install -f You can download also after install configure script separately for everyday usage: wget http://linux.zeroconf.ee/scripts/after_install.sh ### Better idea is to use alias to run long commands fast 1) after login open in terminal (no matter GUI or CLI) the file .bashrc: nano .bashrc find the rows: # if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then # . ~/.bash_aliases # fi Remove the "#" from the beginning: if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then . ~/.bash_aliases fi 2) save the following text into text file called .bash_aliases a) nano ~/.bash_aliases b) copy this text into memory by selecting it and CTRL+C alias ar='sudo apt-get -y autoremove' alias e='sudo apt-get remove' alias f='sudo apt-get install -f' alias i='sudo apt-get install' alias ai='sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean' alias lk='sudo apt-cache show' alias sr='sudo apt-cache search' alias p='sudo apt-cache policy' alias u='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' explanations: ar - autoremove e - erase f - fix i - install ai - after install lk - look sr - search p - policy u - update and upgrade You may use your own short commands, what fits best your needs. c) insert it into nano by pressing SHIFT+INSERT Watch also that the last row is empty - just press Enter in the end to get it. You can use arrow keys to check - is there empty row in the end of file. You can also enable color prompt by removing "#" from the line: #force_color_prompt=yes to force_color_prompt=yes Remove also here the "#": # some more ls aliases #alias ll='ls -l' #alias la='ls -A' #alias l='ls -CF' to # some more ls aliases alias ll='ls -l' alias la='ls -A' alias l='ls -CF' d) press F3 to save the file in nano e) press F2 to exit from nano 3) close terminal, in KDE it is Konsole. Then open it again. Type alias and you'll see current aliases. Now you can just e.g. update and upgrade by typing the letter u and pressing enter. Easy! You can also switch to the CLI by using CTRL+ALT+F1...F6 and also there is color prompt and those aliases. ### You can also copy those bash configuration files to the root user: sudo cp ~/.bashrc /root/.bashrc sudo cp ~/.bash_aliases /root/.bash_aliases then change owner: sudo chown root:root /root/.bashrc /root/.bash_aliases That's it! No you can log in as root (actually simulate): sudo -i Root account is locked by default in Ubuntu and to be sure, you may lock it yourself: sudo passwd -l root It's more secure, because anybody knows, that God in UNIX-like systems is username "root" (without quotes certainly). But if the username isn't root, then cracker needs to guess also username, not only password. To unlock user: sudo passwd -u e.g. sudo passwd -u john ...where "john" is the username and should be replaced with your username, what you used. User will be unlocked with the same password and user can then log in with his/her old password. Best Regards, Edmund From kassube at gmx.net Fri Dec 26 21:05:02 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:05:02 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: References: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812262205.02492.kassube@gmx.net> Ray Burke wrote: > I did that and had a problem, as it said was performing 1 of the 2 > tasks 1/ reducing the 29gb sdbe to 20gb and after 3 hours came back > with error 2/ enlarging the 8bg sdbe to 19gg, but did not even start > cause of above error. Oh, that's not good to read. I hope there was nothing lost. Now the question is what the error was. Did you have enough free space, i.e. was there less than 20GB of data on the (originally) 29GB partition? Can you access the partition from the LiveCD? Maybe you need to reboot (with the LiveCD) to read the modified partition table. I'm not sure it does that automatically if there was an error. I could imagine that Ubuntu tried to automatically mount the partitions of the disk after resizing the first one and gparted refused to continue while the partition for the next operation was mounted. If that is the case, you could just resize the second partition after unmounting it. > am I supposed to in thew terminal type sudo swapoff -a or thru drop > down menu of the 40gb disc, click swapoff, Either way. Gparted wouldn't let you modify the space of the partition if it is in use as swap space. > and when finished do I turn > the swapon??????? When finished you can turn swap on again, but it isn't necessary if you don't want to use the LiveCD any longer. > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition?action print,and does > not say anythink about swapoff?????? Well, on one of the pages it says this: | After assuring that the /swap partition is unmounted, Actually it doesn't tell you _how_ to unmount the swap partition but you have to do it. Nils From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 26 21:23:10 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:23:10 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812262205.02492.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812242217.37781.kassube@gmx.net> <200812262205.02492.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils in X, I cant remember but I think on the 29gb /home I had used about 8gb and on the 7gb /root used 7gb it didnt even complete any of the two steps, was still runing resize 29gb down to 20gband " After assuring that the /swap partition is unmounted" I didnt understand that meant swapoff??????? sorry. I also reboot to see what the disc's were saying but could not even boot into the new partition k as error monunting as saying to fsck the disk????? ray PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a copy) but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as not even sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked?????? > From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:05:02 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > I did that and had a problem, as it said was performing 1 of the 2> > tasks 1/ reducing the 29gb sdbe to 20gb and after 3 hours came back> > with error 2/ enlarging the 8bg sdbe to 19gg, but did not even start> > cause of above error.> > Oh, that's not good to read. I hope there was nothing lost. Now the > question is what the error was. Did you have enough free space, i.e. was > there less than 20GB of data on the (originally) 29GB partition? Can you > access the partition from the LiveCD? Maybe you need to reboot (with the > LiveCD) to read the modified partition table. I'm not sure it does that > automatically if there was an error.> > I could imagine that Ubuntu tried to automatically mount the partitions of > the disk after resizing the first one and gparted refused to continue > while the partition for the next operation was mounted. If that is the > case, you could just resize the second partition after unmounting it.> > > am I supposed to in thew terminal type sudo swapoff -a or thru drop> > down menu of the 40gb disc, click swapoff,> > Either way. Gparted wouldn't let you modify the space of the partition if > it is in use as swap space.> > > and when finished do I turn > > the swapon???????> > When finished you can turn swap on again, but it isn't necessary if you > don't want to use the LiveCD any longer.> > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition?action print,and does> > not say anythink about swapoff??????> > Well, on one of the pages it says this:> > | After assuring that the /swap partition is unmounted,> > Actually it doesn't tell you _how_ to unmount the swap partition but you > have to do it.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Holiday cheer from Messenger. 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Right, the text isn't perfect because a swap partition isn't mounted. > I also reboot to see what the disc's were saying but could not even > boot into the new partition k as error monunting as saying to fsck the > disk????? I'm not sure I understand - did it partially boot but want you to manually fsck the root partition? > PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a copy) > but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as not even > sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked?????? Now that you have restored from the backup you could try the same operation again. It would be interesting to save the error details if there is again the same error. OTOH, I suppose you don't want to wait another 3 hours. Nils From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sat Dec 27 08:07:17 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:07:17 -0500 Subject: I need a stable KEYBOARD centric interface![ KDE4 KRunner???] In-Reply-To: References: <495119CC.2060706@gmail.com> <200812240607.36275.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <4953415F.6020509@gmail.com> Message-ID: It would appear that on Dec 25, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say: > If I go there, I suppose I might as well assume that my issue > with the way krunner pulls up the root version of krusader > until I finish typing the whole command name is a kde issue > unless the kde team tells me it's specific to kubuntu. Of all the items I mentioned, this one turns out to not be worth worrying about. This behavior is repeatable with each user account until I actually start the non-root version of krusader... After that the default seams to be changed to the non-root version. (for that user account) I'm still puzzled why it initially defaults to the root session. But it's not worth basing a bug report on because it clears itself up so easily... -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <*> <*> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> But if I actually knew everything, then I'd know I was an idiot... From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat Dec 27 13:08:07 2008 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:08:07 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on a 'mini' laptop Message-ID: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> I am thinking of buying a 'mini' laptop - probably the MSI Wind. I'm sure that I can get it without XP. How do I install Kubuntu on it, and which one (is there a special one for 'mni' laptops)? Can I 'burn' the iso image to a thumb drive? I don't want the added expense of a separate USB DVD drive. Blessings, Nigel From ash8kewl at gmail.com Sat Dec 27 13:17:38 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:17:38 +0700 Subject: Ubuntu Studio installation Successful / Edmund Message-ID: Thanks a million Edmund. I have saved your instructions like gold. I followed your instructions and have completed installation and upgrade of Ubuntu Studio on my system. I am facing one problem : No sound!! So I just ran Hardware Testing and sent report to Launchpad. I would welcome any advise on how I can sort out this problem. From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 27 13:33:51 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:33:51 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu on a 'mini' laptop In-Reply-To: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <200812271433.51739.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Can I 'burn' the iso image to a thumb drive? > I don't want the added expense of a separate USB DVD drive. You can use Unetbootin [1] to put the ISO on a USB stick. It depends on the target machine if you can boot from that USB stick for installation but I suppose all new machines can be set in the BIOS to boot from USB. Nils [1] From art.alexion at gmail.com Sat Dec 27 13:57:19 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:57:19 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu on a 'mini' laptop In-Reply-To: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00812270557n10232530l324ee507a2e136a7@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I am thinking of buying a 'mini' laptop - probably the MSI Wind. I'm sure that I can get it > without XP. > How do I install Kubuntu on it, and which one (is there a special one for 'mni' laptops)? Follow Nil's instructions for creating a bootable USB. There is a special version of Ubuntu for the eeePC, with a kernel tuned for the processor, the webcam and the touchpad. I expect it would be trivial to install the kubuntu-desktop once you install Ubbuntu-eee. There are also Cannonical/Dell repos especially for the Dell Mini I don't know if there is one compiled for the MSI Wind. -- -- artAlexion sent unsigned from webmail interface From k7qo at commspeed.net Sat Dec 27 16:11:25 2008 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (chuck adams) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:11:25 -0700 Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netbook In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00812270557n10232530l324ee507a2e136a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812270557n10232530l324ee507a2e136a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812270911.25917.k7qo@commspeed.net> I recently bought two netbooks (the small notebook computers). Both use an Intel Atom processor at 1.6GHz. One was an Acer that I picked up at Wal*Mart and the other was the lenova S10 that I purchased at Fry's Electronics in Phoenix AZ. For the lenova I found that downloading and booting the livecd for Ubuntu 9.04 daily-live I was able to bring up Ubuntu and have the wi-fi work without any modifications. I have yet to get the wi-fi to work with the Acer. And besides, I upgraded the lenova to 2GB of RAM for $19 USD and the Acer will not have an upgrade option. Ubuntu 9.04 has, from the running livecd, a facility under admin to create a bootable USB drive. And the bootable USB works with the Acer and lenova netbook computers. I downloaded the alpha version of Kubuntu 9.04 and found that it does not have the livecd version and it does not have the create a bootable USB drive facility, as far as I can tell. I was wondering if it would in April of 2009. I'll attempt a daily-live build in the next few days, unless someone gives me an tried and true option. I will experiment later today to see if the loading of kubuntu-desktop will convert the systems over to KDE. I have never tried the ubuntu to kubuntu route before. I chose the netbooks over a PDF reader like Kindle as I can have a book reader for PDF and DJVU and other formats, have a running LINUX, and 160GB of disc space to carry several thousand books around without a lot of weight for about the same money. USD. I have about 35 LINUX books on the drive along with several hundred others in scientific areas and I am nowhere near filling the drive. Plus I can work on any book that I am writing using LaTeX and the associated tools. Hope this helps some. I can go through the process in gory detail if needed and I'm sure it is documented on the web. FYI chuck From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 27 18:20:30 2008 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:20:30 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu on a 'mini' laptop In-Reply-To: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <495671EE.9030601@sbcglobal.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I am thinking of buying a 'mini' laptop - probably the MSI Wind. I'm sure that I can get it > without XP. > How do I install Kubuntu on it, and which one (is there a special one for 'mni' laptops)? Can I > 'burn' the iso image to a thumb drive? > I don't want the added expense of a separate USB DVD drive. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > Does Ubuntu run on a 2.6.27 kernel yet ? A lot of these mini Laptop, the wireless cards and webcams won't run out of the box with less than a kernel 2.6.27, that is why I switched my Asus 702 to Fedora 10 it has the kernel-2.6.27 to run a lot of these mini laptops . From itachis.eyes at yahoo.com Sat Dec 27 19:23:39 2008 From: itachis.eyes at yahoo.com (Alex Necheff) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:23:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: signal 11 boot error Message-ID: <148564.76336.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> i have the newest version of kubuntu installed...i didn't upgrade to it, just installed that version, anyways yesterday i worked fine, now all of a sudden right after i log in i get "signal 11 (sigsegv)" i'm not sure how to fix this and i can't really get into kubuntu to do anything about it since it happens right at start up. just incase this helps, i didn't change anything on kubuntu, and i have it dual booted with vista. ~the voices said so~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Sat Dec 27 19:49:48 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:49:48 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu Studio installation Successful / Edmund -> sound issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495686DC.9050003@mail.ee> I mentioned your letter a lot earlier but, you know - christmas time and family needs some attention :) I made a couple of wonderful videos while my kids sledging today :) Then I needed to share them ... > Thanks a million Edmund. I have saved your instructions like gold. I'm touched :) Great, that you succeeded! Some more reading about Ubuntu Studio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio > I am facing one problem : No sound!! May I know, what sound card you have? I know, that it might be a complicated question but without knowing that, the problem cannot be solved. Some reading about sound card - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_card 1) We must understand, is the sound card integrated with motherboard or installed separately. Here is integrated sound card - there are audio jacks together with other motherboard connectors: http://bucarotechelp.com/computers/images/backpanel.jpg But if you see your audio jacks separately like 56K modem connectors are in this picture - then sound card is not integrated. 2) Then we must know the exact manufacturer and model. E.g. if you open Kmix in KDE, then it shows also the name of sound card in bottom right corner: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/upimages/wallp/quickstart-kmix.png Some more howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblemsMisc You can find much more reading if you go the address https://help.ubuntu.com/ and type sound card into search field I ran into problems with ALC861 soundcard in Kubuntu 8.04.1 LTS: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-943791.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/192382 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/241379 http://kkubasik.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-hardy/ http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/hardy-buglist.html - look also here about fixed bugs Unfortunately I didn't found solution yet :( Microphone does not work even if I compiled with module-assistant new modules, tried several options in ALSA conf file, etc. So, perhaps are these links helpful and gives some glue, how to find information about your sound card. ALT+F2 and then type kinfocenter - it opens KDE Information Center and there are also all hardware information graphically written down. Certainly - if you have motherboard manual or invoice, when you bought your computer - usually also there are all PC configuration written down. If soundcard is integrated, then there is needed to know motherboard manufacturer and model. If it is not integrated, then motherboard is not important. ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture - one of the most used sound server in Linux. Pulse tries also to get used but still doesn't work for me in Hardy. Perhaps in 8.10 but my 8.04.1 LTS works fine now and I don't like to blow up working system. I think I will upgrade when next LTS is out. I can give a try under VirtualBox for new versions but without testing not my main production PC. Sometimes it helps if to reset ALSA settings: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset To save ALSA settings (including sound levels): sudo alsactl store To stop ALSA: sudo alsa force-unload To start appropriate sound modules, here the HDA Intel/nVidia ones: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel alsamixer is command line utility to change settings. You may give a try: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install module-assistant sudo m-a update sudo m-a prepare sudo m-a a-i alsa or sudo apt-get update sudo m-a -f get alsa-source sudo m-a prepare,update alsa sudo m-a build,install alsa or sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install module-assistant sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source Some more reading: http://www.infopackets.com/news/hardware/2005/20050816_integrated_onboard_sound_versus_dedicated_soundcard.htm > So I just ran Hardware Testing and sent report to Launchpad. That's great! Community appreciates your effort! From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sat Dec 27 19:49:54 2008 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:49:54 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu on a 'mini' laptop In-Reply-To: <495671EE.9030601@sbcglobal.net> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> <495671EE.9030601@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812272049.55248.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Saturday 27 December 2008 19:20:30 Jim wrote: > Does Ubuntu run on a 2.6.27 kernel yet ? > A lot of these mini Laptop, the wireless cards and webcams won't run out > of the box with less than a kernel 2.6.27, > that is why I switched my Asus 702 to Fedora 10 it has the kernel-2.6.27 > to run a lot of these mini laptops I'm running kubuntu intrepid on my asus 1000H and hardy ubuntu eee on a 701. You need the customised kernels (Array.org) and scripts to fix some issues but they eventually work nicely. -- lanzen From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Dec 27 21:02:31 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:02:31 -0500 Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netbook In-Reply-To: <200812270911.25917.k7qo@commspeed.net> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812270557n10232530l324ee507a2e136a7@mail.gmail.com> <200812270911.25917.k7qo@commspeed.net> Message-ID: <495697E7.60706@gatech.edu> chuck adams wrote: > I will experiment later today to see if the loading > of kubuntu-desktop will convert the systems over > to KDE. I have never tried the ubuntu to kubuntu > route before. It works fine, though it's a bit tricky to get rid of the right GNOME packages (i.e. without removing GTK stuff you still need). I would recommend using the KDE CD if you can. Matt Flaschen From mez at ubuntu.com Sun Dec 28 10:18:17 2008 From: mez at ubuntu.com (Martin Meredith) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:18:17 +0000 Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netboo In-Reply-To: <495697E7.60706@gatech.edu> References: <495628B7.8020900@prayingforisrael.net> <5a1f6bd00812270557n10232530l324ee507a2e136a7@mail.gmail.com> <200812270911.25917.k7qo@commspeed.net> <495697E7.60706@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20081228101817.GD973@torpor.sourceguru.net> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:02:31PM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > chuck adams wrote: > > I will experiment later today to see if the loading > > of kubuntu-desktop will convert the systems over > > to KDE. I have never tried the ubuntu to kubuntu > > route before. > > It works fine, though it's a bit tricky to get rid of the right GNOME > packages (i.e. without removing GTK stuff you still need). I would > recommend using the KDE CD if you can. After installation of kubuntu-desltop sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get autoremove Works perfectly for me from a clean base install of ubuntu :D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun Dec 28 11:45:59 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:45:59 +0000 Subject: imbedded java in ff3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495766F7.7050408@btinternet.com> There seems to be a running sore in launchpad about java not working in Firefox v3, can't really see any definitive cure or upgrade instructions, does anybody have any concrete information about this? I've added my little moan to the rest of comments. I've kubuntu 8.10(intrepid) stand-alone on a 64b amd. hopefully brian From jjesse at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 14:03:54 2008 From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:03:54 -0500 Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netbook Message-ID: <49578740.151e640a.209a.ffff8578@mx.google.com> Sorry for top posting mobile phone and all Real question is there a reason you are running alpha2 software on it? On my dell 9 I have had no problem s with 8.10 on it including wifi -----Original Message----- From: chuck adams Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:11 AM To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netbook I recently bought two netbooks (the small notebook computers). Both use an Intel Atom processor at 1.6GHz. One was an Acer that I picked up at Wal*Mart and the other was the lenova S10 that I purchased at Fry's Electronics in Phoenix AZ. For the lenova I found that downloading and booting the livecd for Ubuntu 9.04 daily-live I was able to bring up Ubuntu and have the wi-fi work without any modifications. I have yet to get the wi-fi to work with the Acer. And besides, I upgraded the lenova to 2GB of RAM for $19 USD and the Acer will not have an upgrade option. Ubuntu 9.04 has, from the running livecd, a facility under admin to create a bootable USB drive. And the bootable USB works with the Acer and lenova netbook computers. I downloaded the alpha version of Kubuntu 9.04 and found that it does not have the livecd version and it does not have the create a bootable USB drive facility, as far as I can tell. I was wondering if it would in April of 2009. I'll attempt a daily-live build in the next few days, unless someone gives me an tried and true option. I will experiment later today to see if the loading of kubuntu-desktop will convert the systems over to KDE. I have never tried the ubuntu to kubuntu route before. I chose the netbooks over a PDF reader like Kindle as I can have a book reader for PDF and DJVU and other formats, have a running LINUX, and 160GB of disc space to carry several thousand books around without a lot of weight for about the same money. USD. I have about 35 LINUX books on the drive along with several hundred others in scientific areas and I am nowhere near filling the drive. Plus I can work on any book that I am writing using LaTeX and the associated tools. Hope this helps some. I can go through the process in gory detail if needed and I'm sure it is documented on the web. FYI chuck -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/l [The entire original message is not included] From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun Dec 28 14:23:03 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:23:03 +0000 Subject: embedded java in ff3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49578BC7.7050702@btinternet.com> Please ignore my moan about java in firefox, I found and installed the missing plug-in and now everything works and I can do my on-line guardian crosswords - luvverly. brian From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 28 16:35:48 2008 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:35:48 -0500 Subject: embedded java in ff3 In-Reply-To: <49578BC7.7050702@btinternet.com> References: <49578BC7.7050702@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200812281135.48939.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 28 December 2008, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Please ignore my moan about java in firefox, I found and installed the > missing plug-in > and now everything works and I can do my on-line guardian crosswords - > luvverly. > brian Want to give us a clue as to the name of the plug-in? Thanks From k7qo at commspeed.net Sun Dec 28 17:04:08 2008 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (chuck adams) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:04:08 -0700 Subject: (K)ubuntu on a netbook In-Reply-To: <49578740.151e640a.209a.ffff8578@mx.google.com> References: <49578740.151e640a.209a.ffff8578@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <200812281004.08620.k7qo@commspeed.net> On Sunday 28 December 2008 07:03:54 Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Sorry for top posting mobile phone and all > > Real question is there a reason you are running alpha2 software on it? On > my dell 9 I have had no problem s with 8.10 on it including wifi > I'll have to go back and try it again with 8.10, but I think I remember that 8.10 did not have the USB thumb drive install running from the livecd. I was experimenting last night on the Acer using unetbootlin to install another distro to see how a different distro works on the same hardware. I am trying different things to get a handle on just how it all works and interacts.... I obviously have too much free time on my hands. :-) chuck From derek at pointerstop.ca Sun Dec 28 19:06:10 2008 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:06:10 -0400 Subject: embedded java in ff3 References: <49578BC7.7050702@btinternet.com> <200812281135.48939.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <2avk26-gpn.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 28 December 2008, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> Please ignore my moan about java in firefox, I found and installed the >> missing plug-in >> and now everything works and I can do my on-line guardian crosswords - >> luvverly. > > Want to give us a clue as to the name of the plug-in? sun-java6-plugin From valtermura at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 21:43:25 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:43:25 +0100 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <5a1f6bd00812160434p4747f98fqe5f6d88c83916add@mail.gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812282243.26069.valtermura@gmail.com> Il venerdì 19 dicembre 2008 16:03:19 Art Alexion ha scritto: > OK. The problem seems to be with Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10, and not 4.1. The > drive mounts fine on Kubuntu 8.10. The problem exists on three Kubuntu KDE > 3.5.10 machines, while everything works fine on a KDE 4.1 machine and an > Ubuntu 8.10 Gnome machine and an 8.04 Gnome machine. It also work in > WinXP. The only Kubuntu 8.10 machine I tested it on is 64-bit, if that > makes a difference. I can confirm this issue: the same external usb drive that I couldn't open with Kubuntu 8.04/KDE 3.5.x, now opens perfectly in Kubuntu 8.10/KDE 4.1.3 Model: Packard Bell Store & Save 320 GB / USB connection > > Thinking it was a problem with ntfs-3g or something, I reformatted the > drive as ext3. It made absolutely no difference. > > I want to report this as a bug, but have no idea what package to report > against. Any ideas? Well, I think you have to indicate the model of the ext drive and the system you were using, comparing it with the actual system, perhaps it's a kernel problem (?) -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From valtermura at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 22:42:50 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:42:50 +0100 Subject: Q: how is plasma different? In-Reply-To: <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> References: <4946BCFE.3000309@gmail.com> <49471264.2040608@prayingforisrael.net> <200812161038.49601.rcm@swimbarrow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200812282342.51443.valtermura@gmail.com> Il martedì 16 dicembre 2008 11:38:41 R C Mitchell ha scritto: > On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:28:52 Nigel Ridley wrote: > > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ > > Wherein one may find: > > What is wrong with the current desktop technology? > > > > Today's desktops are static. Typically they are tied to a folder in which > > one can find icons (application launchers), or user-placed documents and > > folders. Along with pictures and images as backgrounds, the current > > desktop doesn't go any further, or work for the user. Plasma takes a > > different approach, engaging the user by creating a dynamic and highly > > customizable environment. > > Which prompts me to ask: > > "Who are you? And what have you done with the real KDE team?" > > As it has clearly been taken over by alien marketing wonks talking > marketing gibberish and not answering their own question. > > I like KDE 3.5 a lot. It does everything I need it to do, and I don't see > any pressing need for customising different desktops. My desktop contains > the things that I'm working with and when I've finished with them I put > them away (but maybe that's a woman thing.) > > I don't like KDE 4. I don't like all that black, which is oppressively > macho, and although I finally worked out how to change my background I > can't seem to vary the atmosphere very much. I don't like plasmoids > because they clutter up my desktop, which it seems to me is what plasma is > trying to avoid. I like to see my essential information (time, date, moon > phase (= state of the tide), local weather with temperature, pressure and > (absolutely essential) wind speed and direction, tucked away in a small > corner where I can see them clearly and succinctly at a glance. > > It's possible, of course, that I may learn to love KDE 4 and its successors > given time. I'm planning to keep trying, out of harm's way on my spare > HDD, but meanwhile it looks like if I want to progress with Ubuntu then I > may have to resort to Gnome, which I also dislike although not as much as I > do KDE 4 (An acceptable replacement for Epiphany would be a good start.) > > Meanwhile, I'm a reasonable kind of girl and open to persuasion by reasoned > argument rather than a marketing pitch. Are any of you man enough to > accept the challenge? Hi Rosie, well, first, the dark and the black can be easily changed in what you want, you can choose your perfect combination of colors. Second, you can continue to use the previous version Kubuntu with KDE 3.5.10. Third, you can change environment: try Ubuntu or Xubuntu. Fourth: in which way do you think Ubuntu, better said Linux systems, could compete with other OSes? In which way a well-structured environment can defy Windows Vista/7 or MacOS in a graphical point of view? This is the point, for me. For which characteristics "common users" (I underline common) choose an OS (besides offers they could find in a shop)? Easy of use, readiness and graphic. More: if I install Windows Vista in my old machine, it would burn and die in few minutes. With KDE 4 my machine, after *5* years of glorious work, is still working (slower than KDE 3.5.X, but working), and I haven't anymore problems with my graphic card!!! Many things are to be improved, but I think the way is right, they are making a very good job. Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From ash8kewl at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 23:16:59 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:16:59 +0700 Subject: Sound / Edmund Message-ID: Hi Edmund, I managed to figure out 99% of the sound problems. I am left with one small problem now. I cannot "listen" to the music / video playback online. I am unable to find the setting location for this setup tweak. i.e. Select OSS Open Sound For all the problems sorted out, thats all I had to to!!! I hope I can sort it out soon. Thanks for guiding me. Cheers!! -- Generate space in life by generating space in our own mind!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I moved them to the c: drive of Wine, however they were rejected. Is there a way to work around this problem? TIA Steven From chief at porterfire.org Mon Dec 29 02:18:08 2008 From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:18:08 -0500 Subject: HD Problem Message-ID: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org> My Laptop (Dell Latitude D820) running Kubuntu Intrepid has been working fine, then I replaced the HD to get some more breathing room. Seemed to be working well for some time but now suddenly it just stalls out, locking up momentarily, for up to a couple of minuted. In trying to determine what was going on I found it was pdflush and kjournald that would be running excessively. I began googleing around and found that my raw writes and seek error rates seem very high, everything else seems fine, see below. Any suggestions appreciated. ******************************************************************************************* SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 96973968 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 097 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 78 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 061 054 030 Pre-fail Always - 30077214583 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 211 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 1 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 037 020 Old_age Always - 78 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 098 000 Old_age Always - 125 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 062 035 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 38 (0 10 45 24) 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 6 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 4600 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 038 065 000 Old_age Always - 38 (0 18 0 0) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 052 046 000 Old_age Always - 96973968 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 254 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 ********************************************************************************************* -- Michael W. Holdeman Chief Porter Fire Department Powered by Kubuntu-8.10, KDE-4.2beta From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 29 02:36:02 2008 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:36:02 -0400 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I just purchased a new keyboard that has some nice features that require > installing the software. The programs are .exe's, and I use Kubuntu KDE. > I moved them to the c: drive of Wine, however they were rejected. Is > there a way to work around this problem? TIA > It doesn't work that way. Even if the Windows executables run, they aren't going to change the way your keyboard works under KDE. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 29 03:20:53 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:20:53 -0500 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? In-Reply-To: References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812282220.53193.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Sunday 28 December 2008 9:36:02 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > I just purchased a new keyboard that has some nice features that require > > installing the software. The programs are .exe's, and I use Kubuntu KDE. > > I moved them to the c: drive of Wine, however they were rejected. Is > > there a way to work around this problem? TIA > > It doesn't work that way. Even if the Windows executables run, they aren't > going to change the way your keyboard works under KDE. There isn't a way to make them work either, is there? Steven From rscrawford at mossroot.com Mon Dec 29 03:34:45 2008 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:34:45 -0800 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? In-Reply-To: <200812282220.53193.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812282220.53193.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812281934.45568.rscrawford@mossroot.com> On Sunday 28 December 2008 19:20:53 Steven Vollom wrote: > There isn't a way to make them work either, is there? Steven, I can't help but be curious as to what features could be installed on a keyboard that are so super-spiffy that they require software to run? I can't think of any features that I personally would need. There are ways to map some functions to specific keys in KDE, though. I have a key on my laptop which is mapped to Firefox, another mapped to Kontact, and so on. My keyboard also has a volume control, which I set up to work with Xkb. So my suggestion is to look into Xkb. It should be in the regular repositories, and the documentation is online. With it, you should be able to find out what code each key is sending when pressed, and map a function to it. -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford Editor-in-chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Personal website: http://www.mossroot.com From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Mon Dec 29 04:01:50 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:01:50 -0500 Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo??? Message-ID: I'm a multi-boot linux user. I've currently got kubuntu, sabayon, and openSuSE installed. On all of them I have midnight commander installed (If it doesn't get installed from the installation media I use the distro's package management system to get it before I bother configuring anything else...) I've been addicted to mc for years. And for years I used an sequence to copy selected filename to the command line. Then one day while looking for gui alternatives (I still use mc more than krusader) I discovered that I could use + for the same thing, and ++ to insert the full pathname in sabayon and openSuSE. (both of which were at the time more recent installations than the existing kubuntu So I thought that they simply had a more recent version of mc and stopped thinking about it. except for those times when I'd find myself resorting to "echo `pwd`/ " +O {drag the mouse across the output string} then type the desired command {inserting the pathname with middle click}... But when I installed kubuntu 8.10 and discovered that the + & ++ shortcuts still didn't work. I compared the version strings from mc's initial help screen between both intrepid, and sabayon 3.5... Only to discover that both were in fact the same version { mc 4.6.2-pre1 } But the two shortcuts work on sabayon and NOT on kubuntu?????? Would anybody know why? Or better yet, how to enable the shortcuts in kubuntu??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From ed.lau at mail.ee Mon Dec 29 06:23:58 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:23:58 +0200 Subject: Sound / Edmund In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49586CFE.7080104@mail.ee> Hi, Ash! > I managed to figure out 99% of the sound problems. Well, we all would like to know, what you did and how solved the problem and then we can learn about your problem and its solving. I mean - which of my advices did help you or you figured out it somehow else. > I cannot "listen" to the music / video playback online. If you use Firefox or Konqueror, then you can type onto address bar about:plugins to see, what plugins are installed inside web browser. In Firefox you can change settings by typing about:config but you must be careful. If something goes wrong - just delete the file prefs.js from your profile directory and you can start over. About profiles and its folder locations: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Profiles http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox If you use e.g. mplayerplug-in inside Firefox, then you can configure it so - http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/config.php Also when some video or music is playing - at that time right-click with mouse on that video/sound display inside Firefox and choose configure. Also there is useful if you have installed w32codecs (or w64codecs if you have 64-bit Linux) pack from medibuntu repository - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu I mean - it's also important, that there is known the sound/video codec, what you would like to play. If it's Windows-specific, then these w32/64 codecs are especially meaned for that. You can also test from command line: mplayer ...where instead of write some real internet address, what points to sound/video source. Some audio testing addresses for you (or everyone), which I have written in the file ~/.bash_aliases in my PC (these are most used web radiostations in Estonia): $ alias | grep mplayer alias elmar='mplayer mms://wms3.neti.tv/elmar' alias energy='mplayer mms://81.20.146.22/energyfm' alias energy128='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/energyfm_hi.ogg' alias energy64='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/energyfm_low.ogg' alias kl='mplayer mms://213.35.156.21/klassikaraadio' alias kp1='mplayer -playlist http://raadio.tt.ee:8002/listen.pls' alias kp2='mplayer mms://wms4.neti.tv/kurpre' alias kuku='mplayer mms://wms3.neti.tv/kuku' alias marta='mplayer mms://wms2.neti.tv/marta' alias power128='mplayer http://81.20.146.22:8500/powerhit_hi.ogg' alias power64='mplayer http://81.20.146.22:8500/powerhit_low.ogg' alias r2='mplayer mms://213.35.156.21/raadio-2' alias r2.2='mplayer mms://213.35.156.21/radio2' alias r3='mplayer mms://81.20.146.22/raadio3' alias r3128='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/raadio3_hi.ogg' alias r364='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/raadio3_low.ogg' alias r4='mplayer mms://213.35.156.21/raadio-4' alias r7='mplayer mms://WMS4.neti.tv/Raadio7' alias rfm='mplayer mms://213.35.156.19/ruutfm' alias rr='mplayer mms://wms4.neti.tv/raadioring' alias rt='mplayer mms://wms5.neti.tv/raadiotallinn' alias sky='mplayer mms://81.20.146.22/skyplus' alias sky128='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/skyplus_hi.ogg' alias sky64='mplayer http://streamer.sotovik.ee:8500/skyplus_low.ogg' alias star='mplayer mms://81.20.146.22/starfm' alias star128='mplayer http://81.20.146.22:8500/starfm_hi.ogg' alias star64='mplayer http://81.20.146.22:8500/starfm_low.ogg' alias sun='mplayer mms://WMS4.neti.tv/Tartumaa' alias tp28='mplayer mms://wms5.neti.tv/pereraadio' alias tp96='mplayer mms://wms3.neti.tv/tartupereraadio' alias tre='mplayer -playlist http://raadio.tre.ee/listen.pls' alias uuno='mplayer mms://wms3.neti.tv/uuno' alias uunopop='mplayer mms://wms4.neti.tv/uunopop' alias vr='mplayer mms://213.35.156.21/vikerraadio' "64" means 64 kbps stream and "128" the 128 kbps stream but there are also 28 kbps and 96 kbps streams. These "mms://" addresses are in Windows Media Audio (WMA) formats, .pls files are usually in MP3 format and .ogg is Ogg Vorbis, what should play natively in Linux. You have to copy between ' the mplayer ... into your command line and press enter. OR 1) if you write these aliases into file ~/.bash_aliases 2) uncomment the following rows in file ~/.bashrc if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then . ~/.bash_aliases fi 3) save and quit once from Konsole in KDE and then reopen it. Now these aliases are effective - just type alias and press enter to see active aliases. Now you can just type e.g. tre and it will run the command mplayer -playlist http://raadio.tre.ee/listen.pls and start play one of the most popular youth radio in Estonia :) mplayer -vo help gives you possible video output possibilities mplayer -ao help gives you possible audio output possibilities Then you can just test output options: mplayer -ao alsa mplayer -vo xv Sometimes there is also problem, that you have too much plugins at the same time installed. Or is that problem with multimedia players, that cannot play music/video over internet? I mean e.g. VLC Media Player, MPlayer, Amarok? These players has each its own configuration files and menus to choose e.g. between available sound servers. Usually ALSA should work in KDE. I see very often these messages at command line, when I run mplayer with those URL-s above: .... AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) .... It means, that Pulse sound server doesn't work but ALSA does. Best Regards, Edmund From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 29 06:34:21 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:34:21 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812262255.14678.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812262205.02492.kassube@gmx.net> <200812262255.14678.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, I'm not sure I understand - did it partially boot but want you to manually fsck the root partition? NO onlly the Kubuntu plash screen showed once then back to dos scipting and Yes manually > PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a copy)> but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as not even> sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked?????? The clonned copy thru Paragon drive copy 8 worked as I booted from the clone and it booted up, so now I will try the gparted on the ubuntu live cd and let you know what happens OK?????? ray> From: kassube at gmx.net> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:14 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > I cant remember but I think on the 29gb /home I had used about 8gb> > and on the 7gb /root used 7gb> > OK, so it isn't a space problem.> > > it didnt even complete any of the two steps, was still runing> > resize 29gb down to 20gband > > And it is not a problem of automounting partitions.> > > " After assuring that the /swap partition > > is unmounted" I didnt understand that meant swapoff???????> > sorry.> > Right, the text isn't perfect because a swap partition isn't mounted.> > > I also reboot to see what the disc's were saying but could not even> > boot into the new partition k as error monunting as saying to fsck the> > disk?????> > I'm not sure I understand - did it partially boot but want you to manually > fsck the root partition?> > > PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a copy)> > but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as not even> > sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked??????> > Now that you have restored from the backup you could try the same > operation again. It would be interesting to save the error details if > there is again the same error. OTOH, I suppose you don't want to wait > another 3 hours.> > > Nils> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Time for change? Find your ideal job with SEEK. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange&_t=757263783&_r=SEEK_tagline&_m=EXT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mez at ubuntu.com Mon Dec 29 07:03:30 2008 From: mez at ubuntu.com (Martin Meredith) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:03:30 +0000 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? In-Reply-To: <200812281934.45568.rscrawford@mossroot.com> References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812282220.53193.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812281934.45568.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: <20081229070330.GO973@torpor.sourceguru.net> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 07:34:45PM -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Sunday 28 December 2008 19:20:53 Steven Vollom wrote: > > There isn't a way to make them work either, is there? > > Steven, > > I can't help but be curious as to what features could be installed on a > keyboard that are so super-spiffy that they require software to run? I can't > think of any features that I personally would need. encrypted wireless communication between keyboard/Mouse setup and dongle requires the windows software to do for the logitech mx3200! (So, someone could be sniffing this email as I type it from my keyboard! scary thought!) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 07:58:19 2008 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:58:19 -0500 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <200812282243.26069.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812191003.25086.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812282243.26069.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812290258.27100.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Sunday 28 December 2008 16:43:25 Valter Mura wrote: > Il venerdì 19 dicembre 2008 16:03:19 Art Alexion ha scritto: > > OK.  The problem seems to be with Kubuntu KDE 3.5.10, and not 4.1.  The > > drive mounts fine on Kubuntu 8.10.  The problem exists on three Kubuntu > > KDE 3.5.10 machines, while everything works fine on a KDE 4.1 machine and > > an Ubuntu 8.10 Gnome machine and an 8.04 Gnome machine.  It also work in > > WinXP.  The only Kubuntu 8.10 machine I tested it on is 64-bit, if that > > makes a difference. > > I can confirm this issue: the same external usb drive that I couldn't open > with Kubuntu 8.04/KDE 3.5.x, now opens perfectly in Kubuntu 8.10/KDE 4.1.3 > > Model: Packard Bell Store & Save 320 GB / USB connection Is that a USB powered drive or does it have its own power supply? > > > Thinking it was a problem with ntfs-3g or something, I reformatted the > > drive as ext3.  It made absolutely no difference. > > > > I want to report this as a bug, but have no idea what package to report > > against.  Any ideas? > > Well, I think you have to indicate the model of the ext drive and the > system you were using, comparing it with the actual system, perhaps it's a > kernel problem (?) That would be a problem because it is a drive I took out of an otherwise broken laptop and a generic 2.5" enclosure. I can't imagine it would be a kernel problem because Kubuntu and Ubuntu share the same kernel and it mounts fine in Ubuntu. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 29 11:04:50 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:04:50 +0100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: References: <200812262255.14678.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812291204.51347.kassube@gmx.net> Ray Burke wrote: > I'm not sure I understand - did it partially boot but want you to > manually fsck the root partition? NO onlly the Kubuntu plash screen > showed once then back to dos scipting and Yes manually Kubuntu splash screen is what I would call partially booted. And what you call "back to dos scripting" is probably the shell login prompt or a root shell. If it is a login prompt you could login with your username and password and then use the command "sudo su" to get a root shell. If it is a root shell already you could skip that step. Then you could try the command fsck /dev/sdb1 where I took the device name /dev/sdb1 from one of your previous mails. Maybe you have to replace the device name if it is another device. Probably fsck will ask many questions if it should fix specific errors. When I had a similar situation many years ago I always let it fix the error and finally the file system worked again. However I don't know if that will help in your situation especially because I don't know what error message there was. > > PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a > > copy)> but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as > > not even> sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked?????? The > > clonned copy thru Paragon drive copy 8 worked as I booted from the > > clone and > > it booted up, so now I will try the gparted on the ubuntu live cd and > let you know what happens OK?????? I don't think gparted will help if there is really a problem where you should run fsck manually. But of course you can try it. Nils From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 11:25:21 2008 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:25:21 +0100 Subject: Installation of Ubuntu Studio 8.10 / Edmund Laugasson In-Reply-To: <49553922.1050408@mail.ee> References: <49553922.1050408@mail.ee> Message-ID: 2008/12/26 Edmund Laugasson : > 2) save the following text into text file called .bash_aliases > > a) nano ~/.bash_aliases > > b) copy this text into memory by selecting it and CTRL+C > alias ar='sudo apt-get -y autoremove' > alias e='sudo apt-get remove' > alias f='sudo apt-get install -f' > alias i='sudo apt-get install' > alias ai='sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get clean' > alias lk='sudo apt-cache show' > alias sr='sudo apt-cache search' > alias p='sudo apt-cache policy' > alias u='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' > Hi! Just a reflection, is vise to have an alias named ar? Wouldn't that interfere with the archive program "ar" and prevent you from compiling sources and do other things depending on ar like unpacking deb archives? / Jonas From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Dec 29 12:57:46 2008 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:57:46 +0000 Subject: java in ff3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4958C94A.6010906@btinternet.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Mon Dec 29 13:51:42 2008 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:51:42 +0200 Subject: Installation of Ubuntu Studio 8.10 / Edmund Laugasson In-Reply-To: References: <49553922.1050408@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4958D5EE.3000400@mail.ee> > Just a reflection, is vise to have an alias named ar? Wouldn't that > interfere with the archive program "ar" and prevent you from compiling > sources and do other things depending on ar like unpacking deb > archives? Certainly - use, what you want. I use e.g. my motherlanguage shortcuts - I just tried to translate them and didn't check does any shortcut conflicts somewhere. Thanks for pointing attention. Best Regards, Edmund From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon Dec 29 14:07:42 2008 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:07:42 +0100 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? In-Reply-To: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I just purchased a new keyboard that has some nice features that require > installing the software. The programs are .exe's, and I use Kubuntu KDE. I > moved them to the c: drive of Wine, however they were rejected. Is there a > way to work around this problem? TIA > > Steven > Hi Steven, forget about the .exe's, they will only work with windows. What you need is making all or (at least some) additional keys working with Linux. For a start, I would look here: http://www.learnlinux.co.uk/E/technical_notes/ln0015.htm and http://linuxgazette.net/104/brown.html Although those articles are not brand new, they are a good start. Additionally this should work: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_multimedia_keyboard Kind regards and have a happy new year Eberhard From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 14:37:09 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:37:09 +0100 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? Message-ID: Dear Everybody At present, I am trying to save a few added instructions to this file: /home/bas/.mozilla/firefox/a1ooj68h.default/prefs.js It is the file which contains the user preferences for Firefox 3.05 at Kubuntu 8.10. Via Kate, I try to add some instructions meant to instruct Firefox to allow to use the 'Rich Text editing demo' functionality at a specific website - in my case a site via which I am working at the website for a client. That's why, I have opened a few times the above mentioned prefs.js file with Kate and pasted to it some instructions copied from this site: http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html While doing so, I also took into account special Linux/ Unix instructions from this site: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs So, I quitted Firefox and copy-pasted the new instructions into the file as summarised above; a few times I did so as 'normal' user, a few other times I opened Kate via a terminel > sudo kate. However, neither way worked out. The new instructions 'vanish' out of the file whenever I open again Firefox. Can anybody tell me how to save these new instructions in such a way that Firefox can work with them? Is it necessary to do so as 'super user'? If so, is the way I have done so so far (terminal > sudo kate > password) correct? Or is there more correct way to indicate my super user status in this situation? If you manage to give me some input, thank you very much! Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon Dec 29 14:42:53 2008 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:42:53 -0400 Subject: Is there a way to install a keyboard that was programmed for Windows? References: <200812282037.28289.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812282220.53193.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > On Sunday 28 December 2008 9:36:02 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> > I just purchased a new keyboard that has some nice features that >> > require >> > installing the software. The programs are .exe's, and I use Kubuntu >> > KDE. >> > I moved them to the c: drive of Wine, however they were rejected. Is >> > there a way to work around this problem? TIA >> >> It doesn't work that way. Even if the Windows executables run, they >> aren't going to change the way your keyboard works under KDE. > > There isn't a way to make them work either, is there? How would we know? There almost certainly is - google for your keyboard (which you didn't tell us) and "Linux" and/or "KDE". From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Dec 29 15:19:50 2008 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:19:50 -0500 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4958EA96.9030008@gatech.edu> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Everybody > > At present, I am trying to save a few added instructions to this file: > /home/bas/.mozilla/firefox/a1ooj68h.default/prefs.js Why don't you read the big comment at the top of the file? /* Do not edit this file. * * If you make changes to this file while the application is running, * the changes will be overwritten when the application exits. * * To make a manual change to preferences, you can visit the URL about:config * For more information, see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs */ Matthew Flaschen From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 15:44:11 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:44:11 +0100 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: <4958EA96.9030008@gatech.edu> References: <4958EA96.9030008@gatech.edu> Message-ID: With respect to your reaction... > > Why don't you read the big comment at the top of the file? > > /* Do not edit this file. I have seen this too, but this does not solve the problem. I need to change the file anyway. > * > * If you make changes to this file while the application is running, > * the changes will be overwritten when the application exits. This is obvious. But even if bring in the changes in the file AFTER closing Firefox, Firefox seemingly overwrites those changes. > * > * To make a manual change to preferences, you can visit the URL > about:config > * For more information, see > http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs > */ I did visit that website, however, I did not find there the answer to my question. Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From valtermura at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 16:15:14 2008 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:15:14 +0100 Subject: Problems with NTFS external USB drive in Kubuntu (update) In-Reply-To: <200812290258.27100.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200812151513.25684.art.alexion@gmail.com> <200812282243.26069.valtermura@gmail.com> <200812290258.27100.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812291715.15373.valtermura@gmail.com> Il lunedì 29 dicembre 2008 08:58:19 Art Alexion ha scritto: > > > > I can confirm this issue: the same external usb drive that I couldn't > > open with Kubuntu 8.04/KDE 3.5.x, now opens perfectly in Kubuntu 8.10/KDE > > 4.1.3 > > > > Model: Packard Bell Store & Save 320 GB / USB connection > > Is that a USB powered drive or does it have its own power supply? It has its own power supply. > > > I want to report this as a bug, but have no idea what package to report > > > against.  Any ideas? > > > > Well, I think you have to indicate the model of the ext drive and the > > system you were using, comparing it with the actual system, perhaps it's > > a kernel problem (?) > > That would be a problem because it is a drive I took out of an otherwise > broken laptop and a generic 2.5" enclosure. > > I can't imagine it would be a kernel problem because Kubuntu and Ubuntu > share the same kernel and it mounts fine in Ubuntu. Well, you're right. But I think you should open the issue, there will be an expert who will ask to you more info concerning the problem. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org "Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo" From karlok at fastmail.fm Mon Dec 29 17:05:29 2008 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:05:29 -0800 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49590359.7030603@fastmail.fm> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Everybody > > At present, I am trying to save a few added instructions to this file: > /home/bas/.mozilla/firefox/a1ooj68h.default/prefs.js > It is the file which contains the user preferences for Firefox 3.05 at > Kubuntu 8.10. > Via Kate, I try to add some instructions meant to instruct Firefox to > allow to use the 'Rich Text editing demo' functionality at a specific > website - in my case a site via which I am working at the website for > a client. That's why, I have opened a few times the above mentioned > prefs.js file with Kate and pasted to it some instructions copied from > this site: http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html > While doing so, I also took into account special Linux/ Unix > instructions from this site: > http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs > The instructions say to paste the lines into user.js, not prefs.js. Karl From ash8kewl at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 17:11:01 2008 From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:01 +0700 Subject: Solving Sound problems on my Ubuntu Studio setup / Edmund Message-ID: Hi Edmund, Here is my stepguide towards solving Sound playback problems on my Ubuntu Studio setup. Step 1: System --> Preferences --> Sound Step 2: Tested all the Device options for various categories. ** The right selection produced a tone during test whereas the wrong ones produced some crackling sounds** eg. HDA Intel ALC268 Analog (OSS) was able to produce the tone during the tests. Step 3: Close This immediately took care of my needs to listen to music stored as ogg. files on my system. I am currently using Amarok for Music playback. Step 4: System Tools --> System Settings --> Sound Step 5: Selected the earlier device to be on the top of the list for all types of Audio Output --> Apply For DVD and other Video Playback I downloaded VLC Player. 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This is a metapackage containing dependencies for running Java in various browsers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- found using Adept on my default mirror. brian From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 29 19:48:09 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:48:09 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812291204.51347.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812262255.14678.kassube@gmx.net> <200812291204.51347.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils I am in 'K', The paragon drive copy 8 worked in my xp pro to clone over the old 'k' to a spare 40gb then I used the live cd Ubuntu with the new clonned copy and this time the re-partition worked it took about 35mins to do the enlarge 7gb to 18gb and reduce the 28gb to 19gb below is a copy of $ df -h rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 18G 7.4G 9.2G 45% / varrun 474M 168K 474M 1% /var/run varlock 474M 4.0K 474M 1% /var/lock udev 474M 80K 474M 1% /dev devshm 474M 0 474M 0% /dev/shm lrm 474M 38M 437M 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2 19G 6.0G 13G 33% /home /dev/sda1 75G 38G 37G 51% /media/BKUP MAN rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ and as can see it worked so thanks for all you help, and after reading the instructions I believe that within Kubuntu I can download this gparted and keep a copy within K ?????????????????? ray > From: kassube at gmx.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:04:50 +0100 > > Ray Burke wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand - did it partially boot but want you to > > manually fsck the root partition? NO onlly the Kubuntu plash screen > > showed once then back to dos scipting and Yes manually > > Kubuntu splash screen is what I would call partially booted. And what you > call "back to dos scripting" is probably the shell login prompt or a root > shell. If it is a login prompt you could login with your username and > password and then use the command "sudo su" to get a root shell. If it is > a root shell already you could skip that step. > > Then you could try the command > > fsck /dev/sdb1 > > where I took the device name /dev/sdb1 from one of your previous mails. > Maybe you have to replace the device name if it is another device. > Probably fsck will ask many questions if it should fix specific errors. > When I had a similar situation many years ago I always let it fix the > error and finally the file system worked again. However I don't know if > that will help in your situation especially because I don't know what > error message there was. > > > > PS I have clonned the corrupt new k from my old k(lucky I done a > > > copy)> but this time using paragon drive copy 8 while in my xp pro as > > > not even> sure when I conned a backup thru ghost3 it worked?????? The > > > clonned copy thru Paragon drive copy 8 worked as I booted from the > > > clone and > > > > it booted up, so now I will try the gparted on the ubuntu live cd and > > let you know what happens OK?????? > > I don't think gparted will help if there is really a problem where you > should run fsck manually. But of course you can try it. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Time for change? 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That's good news. > and as can see it worked so thanks for all you help, and after reading > the instructions I believe that within Kubuntu I can download this > gparted and keep a copy within K ?????????????????? If you mean Kubuntu with "K", then yes. Gparted is one of the many applications you can simply install from the Ubuntu repositories. You can also try qtparted which uses QT instead of GTK for the user interface. However for some reason I can't remember I prefer gparted. Nils From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 29 21:15:42 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:15:42 +1100 Subject: re prepaid wireless broadband usb stick Message-ID: Any one out there know of How to configure a prepaid wireless broadband usb stick so as to use on my dualboot xp pro and Kubuntu?????? ray _________________________________________________________________ Messenger's gift to you! 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URL: From rayburke30 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 29 21:18:36 2008 From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:18:36 +1100 Subject: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb In-Reply-To: <200812292200.41845.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812291204.51347.kassube@gmx.net> <200812292200.41845.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils, thankyou very much for you help, and have a safe new year???????????? ray > From: kassube at gmx.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: re re-partition Kubuntu 3-partitions on 40gb > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:00:41 +0100 > > Ray Burke wrote: > > The paragon drive copy 8 worked in my xp pro to clone over the old 'k' > > to a spare 40gb then I used the live cd Ubuntu with the new clonned > > copy and this time the re-partition worked it took about 35mins to do > > the enlarge 7gb to 18gb and reduce the 28gb to 19gb below is a copy of > > Ah, finally it worked. That's good news. > > > and as can see it worked so thanks for all you help, and after reading > > the instructions I believe that within Kubuntu I can download this > > gparted and keep a copy within K ?????????????????? > > If you mean Kubuntu with "K", then yes. Gparted is one of the many > applications you can simply install from the Ubuntu repositories. You can > also try qtparted which uses QT instead of GTK for the user interface. > However for some reason I can't remember I prefer gparted. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Messenger's gift to you! Download free emoticons today! http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 30 00:26:15 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:26:15 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812241329.00034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812291926.16095.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > > > Probably the command is "mplayer %u" or something similar. Change it > > > to "mplayer -fs %u", i.e. write "-fs" after "mplayer". Then Mplayer > > > will always start in full screen mode. Before I found the aspect ratio feature in MPlayer, I preferred Kaffeine. I did not know to ask the question about aspect ratio with Kaffeine, so I just decided to use MPlayer. I preferred the 16:9 ratio to the benefits I preferred in Kaffeine. Your suggestions have caused the behavior to change MPlayer, but the comment of F7 motivated me to try that while Kaffeine was open to see if it would work there. It does, and I have begun to use Kaffeine now. Strangely enough I did something in MPlayer anyway that caused it to not open anymore. I suppose I should work the problem even though I now prefer Kaffeine again. >With that option the command would be "mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u". But >it doesn't change anything with the movie I have tried. Anyway, did you try >if "-fs" gives a usable result? Some time has passed since I made the last entry, and I am not sure I remember what I did that screwed the MPlayer configuration up. I believe I may have entered 'mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u'. In any event, when I attempt to open a movie file in MPlayer, a box opens with the following: Service '/home/steven/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' is malformatted. It was at this point that I retried Kaffeine; when I pressed F7, I got the configuration I wanted plus the benefits I had missed when I stopped using Kaffeine in favor of MPlayer. I would like to restore MPlayer to a functioning player even though Kaffeine has my preference once more. Any Ideas? Thanks, Steven > > > Nils From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Dec 30 05:54:06 2008 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:54:06 -0500 Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc [ UPDATE: kde related? ] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would appear that on Dec 28, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say: > But when I installed kubuntu 8.10 and discovered that the > + & ++ shortcuts still didn't work. > I compared the version strings from mc's initial help screen > between both intrepid, and sabayon 3.5... Only to discover that both > were in fact the same version { mc 4.6.2-pre1 } But the two shortcuts > work on sabayon and NOT on kubuntu?????? It just came to my attention that this may be a kde konsole related. Because if I use mc from one of the 6 virtual consoles ( tty[1-6] ) the shortcuts work in intrepid. It's only when I'm running from a konsole under kde that these shortcuts fail... But I still think it's a kubuntu issue (not KDE) because these shortcut's work in my other linux distributions. And while intrepid is my only KDE 4 based linux, I'm getting the same pattern with kubuntu 8.4 where the shortcuts work in mc under the virtual consoles, But NOT in a Konsole under kde 3.5.9... -- | ^^^ ^^^ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <> | | From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 30 08:44:56 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:44:56 +0100 Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812300944.56824.kassube@gmx.net> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > But when I installed kubuntu 8.10 and discovered that the > + & ++ shortcuts still didn't work. > I compared the version strings from mc's initial help screen > between both intrepid, and sabayon 3.5... Only to discover that both > were in fact the same version { mc 4.6.2-pre1 } But the two shortcuts > work on sabayon and NOT on kubuntu?????? > > Would anybody know why? I suppose the other distros have configured the shortcut. > Or better yet, how to enable the shortcuts in > kubuntu??? K-menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts. Select the application from the menu (if you can't find it there you can use the menu editor to add it). At the bottom of the window select "Custom" for "Shortcut for selected command" and enter your shortcut in the new window. Don't forget to click "Apply". Nils From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 30 08:45:00 2008 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:45:00 +0100 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? In-Reply-To: <200812291926.16095.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812242216.24554.kassube@gmx.net> <200812291926.16095.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200812300945.00932.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > Some time has passed since I made the last entry, and I am not sure I > remember what I did that screwed the MPlayer configuration up. I > believe I may have entered 'mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u'. In any > event, when I attempt to open a movie file in MPlayer, a box opens with > the following: Service > '/home/steven/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' is > malformatted. Remove that file /home/steven/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop and it should give you the original configuration. Either that file isn't needed or it will be created again when you start mplayer the next time. Nils From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 13:11:31 2008 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:11:31 +0100 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: <49590359.7030603@fastmail.fm> References: <49590359.7030603@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: > The instructions say to paste the lines into user.js, not prefs.js. The instructions you refer to do indeed only refer to 'user.js'. However, 'prefs.js' is simply another name for 'user.js', according to the last alinea of this page: http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/profile.html Respectfully yours, Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 30 16:44:26 2008 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:44:26 -0500 Subject: How do I change the default configuration of MPlayer movie player? RESOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <200812300945.00932.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200812230156.39472.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812291926.16095.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200812300945.00932.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200812301144.26528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 3:45:00 am Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > Some time has passed since I made the last entry, and I am not sure I > > remember what I did that screwed the MPlayer configuration up. I > > believe I may have entered 'mplayer -monitoraspect 16:9 %u'. In any > > event, when I attempt to open a movie file in MPlayer, a box opens with > > the following: Service > > '/home/steven/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' is > > malformatted. > > Remove that file /home/steven/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop > and it should give you the original configuration. Either that file isn't > needed or it will be created again when you start mplayer the next time. > > > Nils Thanks Nils. Thanks for your patience. The logic of that move may have sunk in. I don't think I will have to ask that kind of question again. Strange how dumb a person feels when a breakthrough on understanding comes through on an easy answer. You are great. Steven From johndecarlo at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 18:02:01 2008 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:02:01 -0500 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: References: <49590359.7030603@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <3dde113c0812301002i1a995035s3e703d35bdf2b447@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Bas Roufs wrote: > > The instructions say to paste the lines into user.js, not prefs.js. > > The instructions you refer to do indeed only refer to 'user.js'. > However, 'prefs.js' is simply another name for 'user.js', according to > But user.js is not overwritten, the way prefs.js is. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlok at fastmail.fm Tue Dec 30 18:13:17 2008 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:13:17 -0800 Subject: How to SAVE new instructions added to the Firefox user preferences file? In-Reply-To: References: <49590359.7030603@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <495A64BD.7070104@fastmail.fm> Bas Roufs wrote: >> The instructions say to paste the lines into user.js, not prefs.js. > > The instructions you refer to do indeed only refer to 'user.js'. > However, 'prefs.js' is simply another name for 'user.js', according to > the last alinea of this page: > http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/profile.html > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > I don't see where it says that, and if it did it would be wrong. You have to create user.js. It does not exist by default. Karl From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 30 18:45:03 2008 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:45:03 -0500 Subject: No longer have Windows List (kubuntu, not MS) Message-ID: <495A6C2F.6070406@cfl.rr.com> I now no longer have a windows list at the bottom of my screen. Instead I have some programs that take up almost half of the panel, while the clock/time display takes up most of the rest. I have the menu and other icons, desktop list and trash can, but that is all. Does anyone know how I can get the windows list back to view the minimized and maximized programs currently running??? If it was something I did I can't imagine what since I don't mess around with the windows list and panel beyond having added a program or two to the panel. Also, I have been unable find anything anywhere that will allow me to hide the panel except when the mouse moves over the bottom of the screen. It worked in HH/KDE 3, but not in II/KDE 4. Thank you! Tom Bell -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955) From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 18:55:07 2008 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:55:07 -0700 Subject: No longer have Windows List (kubuntu, not MS) In-Reply-To: <495A6C2F.6070406@cfl.rr.com> References: <495A6C2F.6070406@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <495A6E8B.7000906@gmail.com> tom bell said the following at 12/30/2008 11:45 AM : > I now no longer have a windows list at the bottom of my screen. Instead > I have some programs that take up almost half of the panel, while the > clock/time display takes up most of the rest. I have the menu and other > icons, desktop list and trash can, but that is all. > Does anyone know how I can get the windows list back to view the > minimized and maximized programs currently running??? > If it was something I did I can't imagine what since I don't mess around > with the windows list and panel beyond having added a program or two to > the panel. Did you accidentally remove the Task Manager plasmoid? That's what it sounds like. 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I have the menu and other > icons, desktop list and trash can, but that is all. > Does anyone know how I can get the windows list back to view the > minimized and maximized programs currently running??? > If it was something I did I can't imagine what since I don't mess around > with the windows list and panel beyond having added a program or two to > the panel. > Also, I have been unable find anything anywhere that will allow me to > hide the panel except when the mouse moves over the bottom of the > screen. It worked in HH/KDE 3, but not in II/KDE 4. > Thank you! > > Tom Bell > try moving your mouse all the way to the top left corner of the screen and leave it there for a second or two. -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have the menu and other >> > icons, desktop list and trash can, but that is all. >> > Does anyone know how I can get the windows list back to view the >> > minimized and maximized programs currently running??? >> > If it was something I did I can't imagine what since I don't mess around >> > with the windows list and panel beyond having added a program or two to >> > the panel. > > Did you accidentally remove the Task Manager plasmoid? That's what it > sounds like. > > Doc Thanks Doc, That did the trick. I have no idea how/why I would have ever deselected that option, but apparently did. Tom -- “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” -- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955)