Jussi Kekkonen jussi.kekkonen at
Wed Apr 30 20:06:05 UTC 2008

just to remind you, we are international, thus laws does vary a LOT

2008/4/30, James Heaver <james at>:
> 2008/4/30 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz at>:
> > On Wednesday 30 April 2008 16:45:00 Derek Broughton wrote:
> >  > That is not what copyright law says.
> >
> >  Could you cite the exact references in the Berne convention on which you
> are
> >  relying?  I am not conversant with its exact terms, tho' they are
> certainly
> >  not as clear cut as you are implying, anyhow as interpreted under the
> English
> >  law.  (Note, I mean English, not British.  An important distinction in
> Law.)
> Article Nine, Paragraph One of the Convention for the Protection of
> Literary and Artistic Works (Berne Convention):
> (1) Authors of literary and artistic works protected by this
> Convention shall have the exclusive right of authorizing the
> reproduction of these works, in any manner or form.
> The original posting wasn't plagiarism - He didn't claim to have
> written it himself.  It wasn't theft - Copyright infringement isn't
> legally theft despite common rhetoric.  It was, however, copyright
> infringement.
> By reproducing the article without receiving authorization from the
> assigned rights holder (in this case Associated Press, as stated in
> the copyright notice), the original poster infringed said copyright.
> There is nothing complicated or controversial here.
> You may have your own opinion on the morality of the actions, or the
> state of copyright law, but that doesn't make the act any less
> illegal.
> >  And do we in fact know whether the OP lives in a country which is
> signatory to
> >  the Berne convention, since that is clearly relevant here?
> Its not just the Berne Convention, if the country has signed the WTO's
> TRIPS agreement, or any number of other treaties then copyright will
> apply.  There are *very* few countries in the world where the OP
> wouldn't be illegal.  There are potential issues surrounding this
> list, and any archives of this list being based in a berne signatory
> (US, UK?)
> Having said all that - no one will get sued over the OP, but good
> etiquette and legality should be encouraged on a list such as this.
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