A note on Kubuntu 8.04 beta version (KDE4)

claydoh claydoh at midmaine.com
Tue Apr 8 17:02:06 BST 2008


On Tue April 8 2008 11:51:11 am Martin Laberge wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 April 2008 11:05:16 claydoh wrote:
> > On Tue April 8 2008 10:25:45 am Martin Laberge wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 April 2008 10:00:40 claydoh wrote:
> > > > A lack of "user outcry for it" doesn't mean it is bad, just that
> > > > those who have no problems with it (ie it works fine for them), or
> > > > actually like it, are not necessarily as vocal as those who don't
> > > > like it. And generally speaking, people with negative experiences
> > > > anywhere tend to be much more vocal than those with positive ones.
> > >
> > > Is there someone in this room , using dolphin, who is able to
> > > describe to me (and all others), why YOU like dolphin, why is
> > > it better than konkeror, and what is your point of using it.
> > >
> > > Maybe we just don't understand the point to use it?
> > >
> > > If someone can argue FOR dolphin, i would like to hear it.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Laberge
> > > mlsoft at videotron.ca
> > > Tel:(418)521-6823
> >
> > 1) It works. And is quite configurable, even if it doesn't look so from
> > the relatively sparse settings. I use it (kde3's version BTW) to
> > browse/write to samba shares, ssh connection, ftp to webservers, etc.
> >
> > 2) It does its job well - My wife, who seldom uses a file manger,
> > generally, finds dolphin nicely laid out, with the important stuff right
> > there, and the system stuff there, but not as prominent. She doesn't like
> > tree views, split views, etc, she just wants to get to her stuff, and did
> > so with Dolphin with ease. All without help from me after a clean install
> > before I had the chance to tweak things to our liking.
> >
> > 3) I find it more efficient for file managing. For example I find the
> > breadcrumb method quicker for me than arrows etc, and I generally
> > *dislike*. breadcrumbs.
> >
> > but really, its not about Dolphin being Better, or Konqueror being Worse
> > it is about  the decision to go with a particular app for general day to
> > day use. Konqueror is still a *great* application! No one is trying to
> > say that. I think that is part of the misperception.
> >
> > Does *anyone* remember when Konqueror first became the Swiss-Army knife
> > tool it is now, and the furor over it and kioslaves, of KDE/Konq going
> > down the MS Explorer take-over-your-desktop comparisons? The this-is -the
> > -death-of-KDE rants? Did that ever come to pass? nope. now much maligned
> > Konq is the tried and true, while dolphin is the new and different, When
> > something better than Dolphin comes around in KDE 6, the naysayers will
> > cling to their beloved filemanager and cry over the change :), and a few
> > die-hards will still pimp Krusader or Konqueror ;D I still use Konq often
> > in a multiply-split view, one large pane for my website, and the right
> > pane split horizontally into two, one for my local filesystem, the other
> > for the remote website's filesystem
> >
> > --
> > Clay Weber
> > http://kubuntuforums.net
> > http://claydoh.com
> > http://emacdogsports.com
>
> Thank you very much for your answer.
>
> If i understand well, it feels more comfortable for day-to-day use
> of browsing to find a doc ou picture or ..., but requieres to go to
> konqueror for doing more complex work?
>
> The need to keep 2 different filemanager, learn 2 filemanager,
> to be able to do all the work, keep me perplex.
>
> But you give me one reason to retry it, Comfort.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Laberge
> mlsoft at videotron.ca
> Tel:(418)521-6823

No, not at all. I use d3lphin *xeclusively* now for *all* my file management 
needs, with the one (very rare) exception where I want to have a 3 pane view 
(one for a web page, one for the page's webserver, the other for my local 
filesystem). 

-- 
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://claydoh.com
http://emacdogsports.com 



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