installing print drivers

D T drden2000 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 4 04:40:30 BST 2007


Thanks for the reply!
you wrote this part
"or through Synaptic or Adept: search on gutenprint, then install all packages shown I found that virtually everything searched upon was installed by otherpackages (depending on what you have installed on your system, youmight find the same).  When I reinstall Kubuntu, I always search on"print" (no quotes) when using Synaptic and install as a matter ofcourse gimp-print and libgutenprint2 which with CUPS covers most of theproblems I shall find."I tried that and my Adept does not find those packages.  Are they available for Kubuntu?
I do understand that there is going to be a learning curve here.  I appreciate you trying to help me.
I have tried to do what you have said several times, but have failed.  I have no "Synaptic" that I can find anywhere.
I might not have the right stuff, I downloaded the CD from the Ubuntu website, the link at the bottom right "Kubuntu".
I don't know about the additional libraries.  I think that maybe I have made a mistake with this distro, maybe I should try another one.
It seems funny to me but if someone could write a program that can help making the install process easier for beginners.  Than I think there would be a lot more people turning to Linux. I think that maybe some of the real smart Linux people have forgotten how hard it is to learn Linux when you first start.

You wrote:  
"Linux is a world of choice, not tied to proprietary standards.  Enjoy!"Choices are good, how about a choice to install a print driver without having to do 6 or 7 completely different steps to do 1 thing.
I don't have the patience.  At this rate with Linux that way it is.  It will take a month just to set it up.  No wonder the manufacturers don't make drivers. They have to install Linux OS to make drivers for it and it just takes too long to make it work.
Thank-you!I'll wait a couple of more years and try Linux again.  Hopefully by then it will work easier.
Thanks again for your help.


> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:15:25 +0100
> From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: installing print drivers
> 
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> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:51:13 -0700
> D T <drden2000 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I find it so hard to use this stuff the way it is.  Do I really have
> > to find a Japanese driver then open it to view it, then get a
> > separate package installer to install it?  Will it go in then?  Or is
> > there more to do than this?  There has got to be one installer that
> > does them all? right? Is there really no drivers (in America?) for a
> > Canon IP 3000, a Dell 1110 and a Brother 3820CN?  These are all very
> > common printers are they not? Canon has a driver for some of the
> > printer but not mine and the are .tz extension.  I'm so frustrated, I
> > hate MS with passion but ... 3 days and all I have is only the stuff
> > that came on the original cd I downloaded and burned.  I even went
> > back to my 4 year old computer (it ran the "live cd's) because I
> > couldn't install most of the stuff (drivers) on a new system it would
> > just lock up. 
> [snipped]
> 
> Manufacturers, by and large, ignore the Linux community and produce
> drivers for Windows alone.  This leaves the Linux community to
> back-engineer is own drivers (which might be illegal in some places) or
> to write its own code.  This isn't a matter of the printers being
> common, its a fact of life when you seek to leave the hand holding in
> the Windows world for a different OS system.
> 
> No, there is not one installer that "does them all", but libraries of
> drivers available that various packages call upon to enable them to
> print output.  When installing Kubuntu I make sure that CUPS,
> gutenprint libraries, and gimp-print are installed to make sure my
> printer(s) have the necessary drivers.
> 
> By Googling, I found this:
> 
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP3000
> 
> which shows that gutenprint is the library package you want to install
> the driver.  There are two ways of doing this, by apt-get:
> 
> sudo apt-get install libgutenprint2 libgutenprint-dev
> 
> or through Synaptic or Adept:
> 
> search on gutenprint, then install all packages shown
> 
> I found that virtually everything searched upon was installed by other
> packages (depending on what you have installed on your system, you
> might find the same).  When I reinstall Kubuntu, I always search on
> "print" (no quotes) when using Synaptic and install as a matter of
> course gimp-print and libgutenprint2 which with CUPS covers most of the
> problems I shall find.
> 
> Now, as to getting .rpm files installed in a Debian universe (like
> K/Ubuntu) you should first install the package alien:
> 
> sudo apt-get install alien
> 
> then cd to the directory when the .rpm file is located and run
> 
> sudo alien --to-deb <package name.rpm>
> 
> This will generate a .deb package in the same directory as the .rpm
> package.  Then run:
> 
> sudo dpkg -i <package name.deb>
> 
> You might get some problems with dependencies, and if this is so then
> run:
> 
> sudo apt-get -f install
> 
> This will force an install from packages downloaded from the
> repositories specified in your /etc/apt/sources.list, so make sure you
> have listed there the repositories in which the dependencies are to be
> found.
> 
> Remember that Windows and Linux regard package management in
> fundamentally different ways.  In Windows, you download an executable
> file which has everything (together with the Windows OS) to run the
> program, even if you have blocks of code that do the same job
> duplicated in various packages.  Linux is more modular, in that each
> package is really calling on other libraries and blocks of code, and
> each of those blocks of code is improved and maintained by different
> people.  As an example, a word processor would have a gui which depends
> on the integration of, say, gtk in the desktop, and the dictionaries
> maintained by others, etc.  But this means you can also address these
> programs (dependencies) directly through the command-line which means
> in turn having some proficiency with the CLI and using basic tools.
> 
> Linux is a world of choice, not tied to proprietary standards.  Enjoy!
> - -- 
> 
> Graham Todd
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