From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Oct 1 02:19:21 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:19:21 +0100 Subject: OT digest e-mails Message-ID: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> Normally, I get e-mails from my lists one at a time. I don't see the advantage to digest e-mails as you loose threading and you have to read the whole e-mail at once or remember where you got up to. However, Google Groups, in their wisdom, only send newsgroup e-mails out as digests. As this seem to be the only way to find a Java list that isn't mega-specialised, I thought I'd try it. I hate the digest format even more now that I have to read it (rather than having it inflicted upon me by a careless poster). My question is; Is there a way to "un-digest" the digest e-mails so I can have the individual posts back? The alternatives would be to try use the newsreader part of Thunderbird and connect that way or drop the lists entirely. :@( -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 1 03:52:52 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:52:52 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Wulfy wrote: > Normally, I get e-mails from my lists one at a time. I don't see the > advantage to digest e-mails as you loose threading and you have to read > the whole e-mail at once or remember where you got up to. > > However, Google Groups, in their wisdom, only send newsgroup e-mails out > as digests. As this seem to be the only way to find a Java list that > isn't mega-specialised, I thought I'd try it. I hate the digest format > even more now that I have to read it (rather than having it inflicted > upon me by a careless poster). Since it's an actual newsgroup, Google won't provide individual emails as they don't host the newsgroups themselves (i.e. it's a Usenet newsgroup). I can't stand digests either. I feel your pain. > > My question is; Is there a way to "un-digest" the digest e-mails so I > can have the individual posts back? Not that I'm aware of. Gripe in a Google Groups "help" group and maybe they'll change that someday. :) > The alternatives would be to try > use the newsreader part of Thunderbird and connect that way What's wrong with that? :) As a matter of fact, I read and write to this very list via a news server (news.gmane.org). I *much* prefer newsgroups to mailing lists and in fact I'm using Thunderbird as well. It's no more difficult (in fact it's easier) than setting up/using an email account. Of course this assumes you have access to a news server that carries your newsgroup. If it's a popular newsgroup, most servers will have it. If your ISP has a news server, you're in business. If not, you can do like I do and pay another company for access to Usenet (In my case I use Easynews - $10.00 a month). If Thunderbird is the issue (it's a good newsreader but not as good as others that just do newsgroups), try Pan ($ sudo apt-get install pan). Or you can bag the whole thing. :) -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 1 04:02:25 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:02:25 -0700 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200709280749.17114.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: Lance DeVooght wrote: > Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: [....] > People, > The OP is talking about a music CD called, "AMAROK" by, Mike Oldfield > (a musician). The "Tubular Bells" guy. ooops. I gotta love that ADHD.... :) -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From kassube at gmx.net Mon Oct 1 05:53:07 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:53:07 +0200 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> Wulfy wrote: > The alternatives would be to try > use the newsreader part of Thunderbird and connect that way > or drop the lists entirely. :@( For KDE we have Knode as newsreader. Nils From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 1 06:15:56 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:15:56 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > Wulfy wrote: >> The alternatives would be to try >> use the newsreader part of Thunderbird and connect that way >> or drop the lists entirely. :@( > > For KDE we have Knode as newsreader. Oh yes, that too. I forgot I was on the Kubuntu list (although I prefer Pan to KNode). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 06:24:12 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:24:12 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> I hate this too. I really wish google groups offered a individual email option for newsgroups...it is because of the lack of this feature that I have not subscribed or participated in any usenet groups (except on quite rare occasions). I suspect that if google groups implemented this feature it'd make usenet much more accessible for the general public which would in turn result in usenet thriving even more. The second reason however is that usenet is spam infested.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 1 07:24:43 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:24:43 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hex Star wrote: > I hate this too. I really wish google groups offered a individual email > option for newsgroups...it is because of the lack of this feature that I > have not subscribed or participated in any usenet groups (except on > quite rare occasions). I suspect that if google groups implemented this > feature it'd make usenet much more accessible for the general public > which would in turn result in usenet thriving even more. The second > reason however is that usenet is spam infested.... Usenet is *not that hard* Really. It isn't. Heck even Winders users can do it (although Outlook Express is awful at quoting - but most Windows users don't notice). They were doing it long before Google Groups existed (and I'm not talking about "tech savvy" users, either). Try it. You'll never go back to (the rather cumbersome) Google groups again. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From linux_milano at yahoo.it Mon Oct 1 08:45:45 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:45:45 +0200 Subject: libkcal and kio errors Message-ID: Launching kontact from a character terminal, i get te following error: libkcal: ERROR: Can't read uid map file '/home/pol/.kde/share/apps/kcal/uidmaps/remote_lboOXEx9ve kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. directory /home/pol/.kde/share/apps/kcal/uidmaps/ is empty, so no remote_lboOXEx9ve file to complain of What does all that mean? Are the following kio errors and kdecore warnings related to the libkcal ones? Any hints about what to check and fix? thank you for your help -- Pol From lacsilva at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:44:05 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lu=EDs_Silva?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:44:05 +0200 Subject: libkcal and kio errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710011144.06310.lacsilva@gmail.com> A Monday 01 October 2007 10:45:45, xpol escreveu: > Launching kontact from a character terminal, i get te following error: > > libkcal: ERROR: Can't read uid map > file '/home/pol/.kde/share/apps/kcal/uidmaps/remote_lboOXEx9ve > kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 > kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) > kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 > kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) > > kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated > action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to > deprecated action. > > > directory /home/pol/.kde/share/apps/kcal/uidmaps/ is empty, so no > remote_lboOXEx9ve file to complain of > > What does all that mean? > Are the following kio errors and kdecore warnings related to the libkcal > ones? > > Any hints about what to check and fix? > > thank you for your help > > -- > Pol Hi! I used to have the same problem related to an IMAP account with groupware folders. I'm running kubuntu gutsy fully updated daily. The problem seems to be the groupware resources. This thread in launchpad should explain everything you need to know to fix that problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139433 I hope this helps, Luís From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Mon Oct 1 10:09:57 2007 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:09:57 +0200 Subject: ssh trouble feisty(client) to dapper(server) Message-ID: <200710011209.57895.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Hi! we stumbled into a nasty problem. After feisty-upgrade the ssh connect to a dapper server is becoming unstable. Sometimes it works - sometimes not. FAQ and other resources are not helpful here. Example of working try: > jojo at pc2:~$ ssh server > Last login: Thu Sep 20 12:12:00 2007 from pc2.s.automatix.de on pts/6 > Linux server 2.6.17.13-ax #1 SMP Tue Sep 19 16:17:15 CEST 2006 i686 > GNU/Linux > Unbuntu Dapper 6.06 Release + Universe + Multiverse > You have new mail. > jojo at server:~$ date > Mo 1 Okt 12:02:14 CEST 2007 > jojo at server:~$ logout > Connection to server closed. > jojo at pc2:~$ ssh server ... long time nothing happens. Ctrl-C After that I tried out a debug output: >jojo at pc2:~$ date >Mo 1. Okt 12:04:45 CEST 2007 >jojo at pc2:~$ ssh -vvvv server >OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 >debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config >debug1: Applying options for * >debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 >debug1: Connecting to server [192.168.11.1] port 22. >debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK >debug1: fd 3 clearing O_NONBLOCK >debug1: Connection established. >debug1: identity file /home/jojo/.ssh/identity type -1 >debug1: identity file /home/jojo/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 >debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/jojo/.ssh/id_dsa. >debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN' >debug3: key_read: missing keytype >debug3: key_read: missing whitespace >repeaten many times< >debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----END' >debug3: key_read: missing keytype >debug1: identity file /home/jojo/.ssh/id_dsa type 2 >debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version >OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1 >debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1 pat OpenSSH* >debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 >debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1 >debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK >debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent >debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: >diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib at openssh.com,zlib >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib at openssh.com,zlib >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib at openssh.com >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib at openssh.com >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 >debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 >debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 >debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none >debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 >debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none >debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent >debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP >debug2: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 129/256 >debug2: bits set: 548/1024 >debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent >debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY >debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/jojo/.ssh/known_hosts >debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 3 >debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/jojo/.ssh/known_hosts >debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 37 >debug1: Host 'server' is known and matches the RSA host key. >debug1: Found key in /home/jojo/.ssh/known_hosts:3 >debug2: bits set: 521/1024 >debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct >debug2: kex_derive_keys >debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1 >debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent >debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS >debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0 >debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received >debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent >debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth >debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received and nothing more hapens. I presume, ssh in feisty is broken. Can anyone confirm this ? TIA J. Sauer -- Jürgen Sauer - automatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 14:34:34 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:34:34 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> Well, what usenet groups would you recommend? Another issue for me is that there are so many to choose from and some overlap and it then turns into figuring out which one is more active/spam infested.... Personally I think usenet is the old style mailing list system while google groups and mailman is the new usenet :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom.monaco at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 15:14:25 2007 From: tom.monaco at gmail.com (Tom Monaco) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:14:25 -0700 Subject: Dell Latitude x300 MediaBase audio In-Reply-To: <200709300937.29483.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <31c77ce0709291825k4b3dc417jab82d1bc4fd40cf@mail.gmail.com> <200709300937.29483.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <31c77ce0710010814x66b698bub93197d907303a92@mail.gmail.com> I tried that...I think the issue is that the mediabase audio doesn't register as separate audio device from the soundcard on the laptop. My guess would be that it is just registering the mediabase as another channel on the soundcard (or something) that windows is able to autodetect but the alsa module can't. Any other ideas? I've tried every combination of playing with channels in alsamixer to no avail. Thanks. On 9/30/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Sunday 30 September 2007 02:25:35 Tom Monaco wrote: > > When I'm on the windows partition, the system automatically switches > > to the (better) mediabase speakers when the machine is docked. Does > > anyone know how to do this in Kubuntu feisty? As it is now it always > > uses the tiny speaker on the laptop itself. > > > > Thanks! > > You could try something similar to this: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3375766 > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From karlok at fastmail.fm Mon Oct 1 15:29:47 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:29:47 -0700 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4701126B.3090006@fastmail.fm> Michael wrote: > When I click on a url in Thunderbird, a instance of Konqueror is > launched. I would like to switch this to Firefox. Ideally, if Firefox > is already loaded, I would like the url to open in a new tab of the > already running instance of Firefox. I tried to launch the default > applications applet, but the only thing that comes up is a big gray > box. Is there a way to change default applications from the command line? > > Mike > Set the default X server web browser (not just the default KDE browser) with this command: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser This will give you a numbered list of installed browsers in your system. Choose the number of the browser you want to use as the default. To get Firefox to pass mailto: links to Thunderbird, you can do the following: enter about:config to the addressbar set (or create) these key-value pairs: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto (bool) = true network.protocol-handler.app.mailto (string) = mozilla-thunderbird Karl From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 17:49:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:49:02 -0300 Subject: kmail bugs ? info References: <200709280725.54074.G.De_Leeuw@eurofer.be> <20070928082258.GA15900@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> Message-ID: <1223511.NAViIYsFKm@cedar.serverforest.com> Donatas G. wrote: > Could that be that same bug that I also wrote about in message "Kmail > refuses to check..."? Should we perhaps file a bug report? I believe it's different. In the other case, you can't see any mail at all. In this, I think you can see what's already shown to you, but you don't see any new IMAP mail. I used to hang out on the kdepim-users list (it must be more than a year since I stopped reading it), and the developers were well aware of the problem. Whenever an interface goes down, the io slave accessing the IMAP server hangs. So for me, this happens whenever I connect/disconnect a cable or when I hibernate the laptop. I was told you could clear it up by deleting kio_imap4 processes, but I haven't had any success with that. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 17:53:38 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:53:38 -0300 Subject: .deb Package References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <46FD346A.8090703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Michael wrote: >> If I am not mistaken, you can still use GUI front ends like Adept or >> Synaptic to install the package. > > Those only work for packages that are in repositories. They are front > ends for APT. I miss kpackage. It could install .debs from other sources 10 years ago (it could install rpms, too). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 17:55:22 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:55:22 -0300 Subject: .deb Package References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <200709290755.31815.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <6746850.uRmnPl2Fdc@cedar.serverforest.com> Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 28 September 2007 17:51:55 Darryl Tidd wrote: >> I downloaded a .deb package today, and when I click on it, it opens in >> Ark. What program should I open it with? >> D > > If I right click on a .deb file here, one of the menu options is 'Kubuntu > Package Menu' which allows me to install, uninstall or see the package > details. > > This is with 7.04. Well, I'll be... Where did that come from? It always annoyed me that it opened by default in Ark. I suspect, I could change that... -- derek From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Mon Oct 1 18:18:20 2007 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:18:20 +0100 Subject: .deb Package In-Reply-To: <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <46FD346A.8090703@gmail.com> <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:53:38 -0300 Derek Broughton wrote: DB> I miss kpackage. It could install .debs from other sources 10 years ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know about KDE4 though] -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 18:18:40 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:18:40 -0300 Subject: OT digest e-mails References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12689566.FNDCnitQOb@cedar.serverforest.com> Hex Star wrote: > Well, what usenet groups would you recommend? Well, not actually usenet, but gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.* from news.gmane.org > Another issue for me is that > there are so many to choose from and some overlap and it then turns into > figuring out which one is more active/spam infested.... Personally I think > usenet is the old style mailing list system while google groups and > mailman is the new usenet :) Mailman is _very_ much the old style mailing list. Google groups would be a whole lot less irritating if they'd fix their interface to work with Konqueror, but it's still not as good as Nabble. Real Usenet is so close to Mailman that it's easy to gate something like this list between mailman and gmane news. I don't mind reading on mail lists if I _want_ to archive everything myself, but for most lists, newsgroups actually work better. -- derek From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 19:31:38 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:31:38 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <12689566.FNDCnitQOb@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> <12689566.FNDCnitQOb@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710011231j107cdf78j9a7d708e7ae376d2@mail.gmail.com> I just think it'd be really nice if there was a site somewhere that'd be willing to let users subscribe to usenet groups with individual post delivery to their inbox, maybe someday... :) But I've also heard that usenet is on its way out due to all the spam, is there any truth to that or will usenet still be around for many years to come? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After all, the binary newsgroups are where you can get the most porn.... - -- Graham Todd -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy iD8DBQFHAVkJthMHx1h/UZYRArW9AJ4tOORhN5yBLBm0eCtGKASI6wsQPACcDEn9 FKUuY+0Z0cniQDaHqlN7vKI= =sBLi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Oct 1 21:13:43 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:13:43 +0100 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <47016307.9070703@tiscali.co.uk> Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Wulfy wrote: >> The alternatives would be to try >> use the newsreader part of Thunderbird and connect that way >> > > What's wrong with that? :) > No control over what you have on your hard drive... If I get spam in an e-mail list, I can delete it In a news group, it's the server that determines when the post expires... > As a matter of fact, I read and write to this very list via a news > server (news.gmane.org). I *much* prefer newsgroups to mailing lists and > in fact I'm using Thunderbird as well. It's no more difficult (in fact > it's easier) than setting up/using an email account. > Set up is easy, I must admit. I connected with my ISP's news server... except, of course, within a couple of hours it goes down... :@( > Of course this assumes you have access to a news server that carries > your newsgroup. If it's a popular newsgroup, most servers will have it. > > If your ISP has a news server, you're in business. If not, you can do > like I do and pay another company for access to Usenet (In my case I use > Easynews - $10.00 a month). > > If Thunderbird is the issue (it's a good newsreader but not as good as > others that just do newsgroups), try Pan ($ sudo apt-get install pan). > > Or you can bag the whole thing. :) News groups are slightly better than fora... but not much. Despite how much I wanted the groups, i think I'll just call it a day. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Mon Oct 1 21:33:22 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:33:22 +0100 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <4701126B.3090006@fastmail.fm> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> <4701126B.3090006@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200710012233.22658.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Monday 01 October 2007 16:29:47 Karl wrote: > Michael wrote: > > When I click on a url in Thunderbird, a instance of Konqueror is > > launched. I would like to switch this to Firefox. Ideally, if Firefox > > is already loaded, I would like the url to open in a new tab of the > > already running instance of Firefox. I tried to launch the default > > applications applet, but the only thing that comes up is a big gray > > box. Is there a way to change default applications from the command > > line? > > > > Mike > > Set the default X server web browser (not just the default KDE browser) > with this command: > > sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser > > This will give you a numbered list of installed browsers in your system. > Choose the number of the browser you want to use as the default. > > To get Firefox to pass mailto: links to Thunderbird, you can do the > following: > > enter about:config to the addressbar > set (or create) these key-value pairs: > network.protocol-handler.external.mailto (bool) = true > network.protocol-handler.app.mailto (string) = mozilla-thunderbird A couple of things leading on from this: 1) My default mail software at the moment is Kmail, if I wanted Firefox to open mailto: links in Kmail would I just change mozilla-thunderbird above to kmail? 2) I thought I'd have a look to see what else I could configure this way and came across sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, imagine my surprise when I found it was defaulted to metacity. Is this what it should be for Kubuntu, if not why is it set as that on mine? From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 1 21:44:40 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:44:40 +0100 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. Message-ID: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi all, I am running Kubuntu Gutsy and a while back I thought I'd install the ubuntu-desktop package to have a little look at how gnome was doing since the two years that I last ran the system. I did a: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it happily installed the gnome option in the login manager. Anyway, after a few days, I don't really want it sitting there on my system, so I did: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. Of course, this only removes the meta-package, but I was expecting all the things which this package pulled in to then be removed by: sudo apt-get autoremove since they're no longer required by the packages I'd requested to be installed, but this didn't happen. Can anyone explain why (since I seem to be misunderstanding the concept of autoremove), and what I should do to remove all the gnome stuff? Thanks in advance! Pete. From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Mon Oct 1 22:15:00 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:15:00 +0100 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200710012315.00274.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Monday 01 Oct 2007, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Lance DeVooght wrote: > > Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > > [....] > > > People, > > The OP is talking about a music CD called, "AMAROK" by, Mike Oldfield > > (a musician). > > The "Tubular Bells" guy. > > ooops. > > I gotta love that ADHD.... :) > > -- > Scott > http://angrykeyboarder.com > ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved That's the one! Thought somebody would get there eventually ;-) Seriously, if nobody else has the CD and/or hasn't noticed the problem, I'll try to get in touch with whoever runs the database. It's actually not much of a problem for me with this CD - it only has one track for the entire CD so it's no big deal to just rename it. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 23:00:03 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:00:03 +0200 Subject: .deb Package In-Reply-To: <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200710020100.03924.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 1/10/2007, James Tappin wrote: > DB> I miss kpackage.  It could install .debs from other sources 10 years > ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). > > It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know about > KDE4 though] I do use it from time to time to install the odd package, but never for rpm. Would it work, do you think? -- lanzen From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Oct 1 23:06:39 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:06:39 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> <12689566.FNDCnitQOb@cedar.serverforest.com> <5dc6fd9e0710011231j107cdf78j9a7d708e7ae376d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87abr2cu4g.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Hex Star" writes: > But I've also heard that usenet is on its way out due to all the spam, is > there any truth to that or will usenet still be around for many years to > come? What spam where? The groups I follow (comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.c, comp.unix.programmer) gets fewer spam messages than this and debian lists. And I still haven't found a place that can compare to those groups. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 23:22:41 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:22:41 -0300 Subject: .deb Package References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <46FD346A.8090703@gmail.com> <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1410802.kby6UrHid9@cedar.serverforest.com> James Tappin wrote: > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:53:38 -0300 > Derek Broughton wrote: > > DB> I miss kpackage. It could install .debs from other sources 10 years > ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). > > It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know about > KDE4 though] > > I know, but I'm disappointed that the Ubuntu people decided to go with an inferior package manager, imo, instead of extending KPackage. -- derek From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Oct 1 23:41:20 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:41:20 -0500 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470185A0.1000401@swbell.net> Michael wrote: > When I click on a url in Thunderbird, a instance of Konqueror is > launched. I would like to switch this to Firefox. Ideally, if Firefox > is already loaded, I would like the url to open in a new tab of the > already running instance of Firefox. I tried to launch the default > applications applet, but the only thing that comes up is a big gray > box. Is there a way to change default applications from the command line? > > Mike I don't know any way to get Thunderbird to open Firefox by default from the command line. HOWEVER, it is very easy to do from Thunderbird. Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Configuration Editor Scroll down to: network.protocol-handler.app.http set value to "firefox" [ no quotes of course ] network.protocol-handler.app.https same setting Done. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Oct 1 23:47:20 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:47:20 -0500 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47018708.2050908@swbell.net> Hex Star wrote: > Well, what usenet groups would you recommend? Another issue for me is > that there are so many to choose from and some overlap and it then turns > into figuring out which one is more active/spam infested.... Personally > I think usenet is the old style mailing list system while google groups > and mailman is the new usenet :) > Google Groups is Usenet. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 23:50:10 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:50:10 -0700 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> Use sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms0009 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 23:58:24 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:58:24 -0400 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) Message-ID: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> okay, it may be me, but I just can't get used to dolphin aka (flipper) how does one have Konqueror open up as the file manager, and not dolphin ? * Heard this, that Konqueror in the next update 8.04, is losing some of its file manager function in-which dolphin is gaining . ( what with the hugh icons) pls.. Long Live Konqueror. Richard From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 23:59:42 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:59:42 -0700 Subject: OT digest e-mails In-Reply-To: <47018708.2050908@swbell.net> References: <47005929.9040804@tiscali.co.uk> <200710010753.07675.kassube@gmx.net> <5dc6fd9e0709302324l66321a1dneb139f2af04c69cb@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710010734v6cc8979eub5bff3a7bc0f9148@mail.gmail.com> <47018708.2050908@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710011659n7cebeaa1od48f1851d22152df@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/07, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > > Google Groups is Usenet. > > Right, if you carefully read what I posted you will see that I did not state that Google Groups is not Usenet but instead said that IMO Google Groups is the new Usenet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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HOWEVER, it is very easy to do from Thunderbird. > > Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Configuration Editor > > Scroll down to: > network.protocol-handler.app.http > set value to "firefox" [ no quotes of course ] > network.protocol-handler.app.https > same setting > Done. > > Ged Byrom wrote: Billie Walsh you are my hero. My links used to open in firefox many moons ago. I did a fresh install of feisty and they started to open in konqueror. They now open in firefox again. Thanks again Ged. From johndecarlo at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 00:11:56 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:11:56 -0400 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710011711i740bcbeft918826986273bc2a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/07, Richard wrote: > > okay, it may be me, but I just can't get used to dolphin aka (flipper) how > does one have Konqueror open up as the file manager, and not dolphin ? Gosh, it is only you. Well, yours is the first negative I have heard of, out of about 30 people I correspond with. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 1 23:44:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:44:43 -0300 Subject: .deb Package References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <1522580.zS4VQvbFY6@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <200710020100.03924.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3707299.MPPjc7EkkO@cedar.serverforest.com> lanzen wrote: > On 1/10/2007, James Tappin wrote: > >> DB> I miss kpackage.  It could install .debs from other sources 10 years >> ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). >> >> It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know >> about KDE4 though] > > I do use it from time to time to install the odd package, but never for > rpm. Would it work, do you think? > I don't remember if that's in the main tree, or if it was just a feature of the Corel Linux (remember that?) distro. All you can do is try it... -- derek From hexstar at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 00:15:44 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:15:44 -0700 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710011702r11d21d2pa28498ce412f4909@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710011702r11d21d2pa28498ce412f4909@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710011715m14adf585i2a69eb01ebc40744@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/07, Hex Star wrote: > > You can try, sudo apt-get --purge remove dolphin > and of course to reverse this action you simply do, sudo apt-get install dolphin...easy enough :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Nanni -- Pagina Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~spawn-hcs Jabber: spawnhcs at jabber.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 01:37:28 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:37:28 +0800 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710020937.28629.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 7:58:24 am Richard wrote: > okay, it may be me, but I just can't get used to dolphin aka (flipper) how > does one have Konqueror open up as the file manager, and not dolphin ? Go to Konqueror, Settings menu, Configure Konqueror, File Associations. Set inode/directory and inode/system_directory to use Konqueror instead of Dolphin. > * Heard this, that Konqueror in the next update 8.04, is losing some of its > file manager function in-which dolphin is gaining . ( what with the hugh > icons) pls.. You heard wrong. Konqueror on KDE 3 is not going to lose anything. No big changes anymore for KDE 3. Konqueror on KDE 4 isnt going to lose anything either. It in fact gains from the file managing improvements on Dolphin. From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 2 02:01:58 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:01:58 -0400 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710012201.58567.david.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 01 October 2007 7:50:10 pm Hex Star wrote: > Use sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename This got my interest, I always thought --purge was a more powerful delete where the data being purged could, depending on what it is, never be recovered. so I don't understand. There could be hundreds if not thousands of packages related to the one being purged. So would this remove just the base package or all of them? -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 2 02:10:26 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:10:26 -0400 Subject: .deb Package In-Reply-To: <1410802.kby6UrHid9@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <1410802.kby6UrHid9@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710012210.26827.david.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 01 October 2007 7:22:41 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > James Tappin wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:53:38 -0300 > > Derek Broughton wrote: > > > > DB> I miss kpackage. It could install .debs from other sources 10 years > > ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). > > > > It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know > > about KDE4 though] > > I know, but I'm disappointed that the Ubuntu people decided to go with an > inferior package manager, imo, instead of extending KPackage. I like Adept package manager. Matter of fact I think it beats any package manager I've used in the past 10 years from RH to the other 10 or so distros I've used. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 2 02:25:01 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:25:01 -0400 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: <200710012315.00274.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012315.00274.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200710012225.01893.david.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 01 October 2007 6:15:00 pm David Fletcher wrote: > On Monday 01 Oct 2007, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > > Lance DeVooght wrote: > > > Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > > > > [....] > > > > > People, > > > The OP is talking about a music CD called, "AMAROK" by, Mike Oldfield > > > (a musician). > > > > The "Tubular Bells" guy. > > > > ooops. > > > > I gotta love that ADHD.... :) > > > > -- > > Scott > > http://angrykeyboarder.com > > ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved > > That's the one! Thought somebody would get there eventually ;-) > > Seriously, if nobody else has the CD and/or hasn't noticed the problem, > I'll try to get in touch with whoever runs the database. It's actually not > much of a problem for me with this CD - it only has one track for the > entire CD so it's no big deal to just rename it. 1 song? You mean to tell me I made myself look like an idiot for 1 song? and you wasted bandwidth, probably some hyperextension to type the E-Mail, and 10 minutes of both our time for 1 song on a cd that will hold at least 18 songs? Just kidding dude. :-) I hope you figure your problem out, I wouldn't want you to break a sweat typing the info in ;-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 03:56:02 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:56:02 -0400 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710020937.28629.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710020937.28629.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710012356.02917.cms0009@gmail.com> On Monday 01 October 2007 9:37:28 pm Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2007 7:58:24 am Richard wrote: > > okay, it may be me, but I just can't get used to dolphin aka (flipper) > > how does one have Konqueror open up as the file manager, and not dolphin > > ? > > Go to Konqueror, Settings menu, Configure Konqueror, File Associations. Set > inode/directory and inode/system_directory to use Konqueror instead of > Dolphin. > Thanks - > > * Heard this, that Konqueror in the next update 8.04, is losing some of > > its file manager function in-which dolphin is gaining . ( what with the > > hugh icons) pls.. > > You heard wrong. Konqueror on KDE 3 is not going to lose anything. No big > changes anymore for KDE 3. Konqueror on KDE 4 isnt going to lose anything > either. It in fact gains from the file managing improvements on Dolphin. Really, hmm that what I heard within kde 4, well hope not. Thanks - all Richard From hexstar at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 04:43:30 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:43:30 -0700 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710012356.02917.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710020937.28629.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710012356.02917.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710012143l4c728d69ie388c4eb2344c511@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/07, Richard wrote: > > > Thanks - all > > You're welcome :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 05:47:47 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:47:47 -0400 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive Message-ID: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> Strigi in 7.10 will not index my usb drive (yes) I want the whole drive I used: media:/sda1/ ( as the path) its not saving the directory to the list of path to index. Thanks - Richard From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 06:21:36 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:21:36 +0200 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710012214p7d7aff72s795800c271559cdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> <200710012201.58567.david.mcglone@att.net> <5dc6fd9e0710012214p7d7aff72s795800c271559cdd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So what if 2 packages rely on the same lib? Would it kill the first program by removing the second with --purge? Douglas From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Oct 2 06:31:02 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:31:02 +0300 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071002063102.GA6771@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:47:47AM -0400, Richard wrote: > Strigi in 7.10 will not index my usb drive (yes) I want the whole drive > I used: media:/sda1/ ( as the path) > > its not saving the directory to the list of path to index. > Could you perhaps use a common unix path, like perhaps /media/sda1 in Strigi? media:/ protocol (at least in dapper, where it figured strongly) used to produce more problems than be helpful. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Oct 2 06:37:09 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:37:09 +0300 Subject: ssh trouble feisty(client) to dapper(server) In-Reply-To: <200710011209.57895.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> References: <200710011209.57895.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Message-ID: <20071002063709.GB6771@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 12:09:57PM +0200, Juergen Sauer wrote: ... > I presume, ssh in feisty is broken. > > Can anyone confirm this ? > No, actually, it works for me - I do connect from a feisty laptop to a dapper server. So it must be working in some instances at least. Donatas Glodenis From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 2 06:38:49 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:38:49 +0100 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <200710012233.22658.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> <4701126B.3090006@fastmail.fm> <200710012233.22658.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4701E779.7030507@stdin.me.uk> Mark Fraser wrote: > A couple of things leading on from this: > > 1) My default mail software at the moment is Kmail, if I wanted Firefox to > open mailto: links in Kmail would I just change mozilla-thunderbird above to > kmail? > > 2) I thought I'd have a look to see what else I could configure this way and > came across sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, imagine my > surprise when I found it was defaulted to metacity. Is this what it should be > for Kubuntu, if not why is it set as that on mine? > > > That's not the default for KDE, it should be set to kwin. That being said the script that starts KDE when you login starts kwin directly anyway (or it should). Easy way to check, press Ctrl-Esc (or KMenu > KSysGuard > Processes tab) and see if kwin or matacity is running. Terence From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 2 06:40:47 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:40:47 +0100 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4701E7EF.409@stdin.me.uk> Richard wrote: > Strigi in 7.10 will not index my usb drive (yes) I want the whole drive > I used: media:/sda1/ ( as the path) > > its not saving the directory to the list of path to index. > > Thanks - > Richard > > That's not a path (media:/sda1/), that's a URL, set the path to the real path. Something like /media/sda1/ (may be different). Terence From linux_milano at yahoo.it Tue Oct 2 07:04:43 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:04:43 +0200 Subject: suspend to ram - ok Message-ID: A few months ago i reported troubles suspending to ram my hp tc tablet, that lead me to modify the script: /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux explicitly selecting the command s2ram (from suse). Now I have found a better solution, without changing the above script, since it uses the same command (s2ram) anyway, through ' dbus-send ....' 1. Added the symlink: ln -s /sbin/s2ram /usr/sbin/s2ram 2. Edited /etc/powersave/sleep to change the line, as follows: SUSPEND2RAM_FORCE="yes" I hope this is of help to anybody -- Pol From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 2 07:54:20 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:54:20 +0100 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710020854.20392.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 00:50:10 Hex Star wrote: > Use sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work I'm afraid. From the apt man page, I notice that it says that "purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged", which I think has to do with the packages being removed from the disk cache too. On the other hand, "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed". That sounds like what I'm after, but it isn't working....... Pete. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Tue Oct 2 08:01:22 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:01:22 +0100 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <4701E779.7030507@stdin.me.uk> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> <200710012233.22658.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <4701E779.7030507@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200710020901.22954.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 07:38:49 Terence Simpson wrote: > Mark Fraser wrote: > > > > > A couple of things leading on from this: > > > > 1) My default mail software at the moment is Kmail, if I wanted Firefox > > to open mailto: links in Kmail would I just change mozilla-thunderbird > > above to kmail? > > > > 2) I thought I'd have a look to see what else I could configure this way > > and came across sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, > > imagine my surprise when I found it was defaulted to metacity. Is this > > what it should be for Kubuntu, if not why is it set as that on mine? > > That's not the default for KDE, it should be set to kwin. That being > said the script that starts KDE when you login starts kwin directly > anyway (or it should). > Easy way to check, press Ctrl-Esc (or KMenu > KSysGuard > Processes tab) > and see if kwin or matacity is running. I've changed it now and Kwin is running, but what would have caused metacity to become the default and what would have installed it? From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Tue Oct 2 08:06:50 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:06:50 +0100 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <200710020901.22954.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> <4701E779.7030507@stdin.me.uk> <200710020901.22954.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710020906.50328.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 09:01:22 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2007 07:38:49 Terence Simpson wrote: > > Mark Fraser wrote: > > > > > > > > > A couple of things leading on from this: > > > > > > 1) My default mail software at the moment is Kmail, if I wanted Firefox > > > to open mailto: links in Kmail would I just change mozilla-thunderbird > > > above to kmail? > > > > > > 2) I thought I'd have a look to see what else I could configure this > > > way and came across sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, > > > imagine my surprise when I found it was defaulted to metacity. Is this > > > what it should be for Kubuntu, if not why is it set as that on mine? > > > > That's not the default for KDE, it should be set to kwin. That being > > said the script that starts KDE when you login starts kwin directly > > anyway (or it should). > > Easy way to check, press Ctrl-Esc (or KMenu > KSysGuard > Processes tab) > > and see if kwin or matacity is running. > > I've changed it now and Kwin is running, but what would have caused > metacity to become the default and what would have installed it? Just found the 3 installed metacity packages in Adept Manager and selecting them from removal doesn't hilight anything else in 'Preview Changes'. So is it OK to uninstall metacity? From lacsilva at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 08:13:54 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_A._C._Silva?=) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:13:54 +0200 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <200710020854.20392.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5dc6fd9e0710011650k55ce9406x4f177a66921a2f1a@mail.gmail.com> <200710020854.20392.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <9e11f640710020113u11f460a5l8a13817034826904@mail.gmail.com> 2007/10/2, Peter Lewis : > On Tuesday 02 October 2007 00:50:10 Hex Star wrote: > > Use sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename > > Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work I'm afraid. > > From the apt man page, I notice that it says that "purge is identical to > remove except that packages are removed and purged", which I think has to do > with the packages being removed from the disk cache too. > > On the other hand, "autoremove is used to remove packages that were > automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and > that are no more needed". That sounds like what I'm after, but it isn't > working....... > > Pete. Hi! The last time I tried gnome and wanted to uninstall afterwords I did sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome* followed by: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (just in case the general command above messes with my kde ;) ) This should remove most if not all gnome things and probably a few other kde related stuff also but the second command should fix the problem. You can do an autoremove afterwords as you should have a few stall packages lying around by then. The --purge removes the packages containing data for the main packages. These usually end in -data.bla,bla,bla.deb. This command does not touch your package cache, as far as my experience goes. Good luck, Luís > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 2 08:14:12 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:14:12 +0100 Subject: Default Applications In-Reply-To: <200710020906.50328.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4700FBF0.2010303@gmail.com> <4701E779.7030507@stdin.me.uk> <200710020901.22954.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710020906.50328.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4701FDD4.3070108@stdin.me.uk> Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2007 09:01:22 Mark Fraser wrote: > >> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 07:38:49 Terence Simpson wrote: >> >>> Mark Fraser wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> A couple of things leading on from this: >>>> >>>> 1) My default mail software at the moment is Kmail, if I wanted Firefox >>>> to open mailto: links in Kmail would I just change mozilla-thunderbird >>>> above to kmail? >>>> >>>> 2) I thought I'd have a look to see what else I could configure this >>>> way and came across sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, >>>> imagine my surprise when I found it was defaulted to metacity. Is this >>>> what it should be for Kubuntu, if not why is it set as that on mine? >>>> >>> That's not the default for KDE, it should be set to kwin. That being >>> said the script that starts KDE when you login starts kwin directly >>> anyway (or it should). >>> Easy way to check, press Ctrl-Esc (or KMenu > KSysGuard > Processes tab) >>> and see if kwin or matacity is running. >>> >> I've changed it now and Kwin is running, but what would have caused >> metacity to become the default and what would have installed it? >> > > Just found the 3 installed metacity packages in Adept Manager and selecting > them from removal doesn't hilight anything else in 'Preview Changes'. So is > it OK to uninstall metacity? > > Sure, remove it if you aren't using it. Terence From lacsilva at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 08:20:30 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_A._C._Silva?=) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:20:30 +0200 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <4701E7EF.409@stdin.me.uk> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <4701E7EF.409@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <9e11f640710020120r4bb10c18nd7beee1d49a7d0bd@mail.gmail.com> 2007/10/2, Terence Simpson : > Richard wrote: > > Strigi in 7.10 will not index my usb drive (yes) I want the whole drive > > I used: media:/sda1/ ( as the path) > > > > its not saving the directory to the list of path to index. > > > > Thanks - > > Richard > > > > > That's not a path (media:/sda1/), that's a URL, set the path to the real > path. Something like /media/sda1/ (may be different). > > Terence > Hi! I had a similar problem in gutsy and I think it's because the interface for the configurations in strigi is broken. My solution was to stop strigi, edit the config file by hand and then restart it. Anyway, you will have to use paths not url's. Luís PS.: By the way, does anyone know the complete syntax for the config file?? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 2 08:25:20 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:25:20 +0100 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <9e11f640710020113u11f460a5l8a13817034826904@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020854.20392.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9e11f640710020113u11f460a5l8a13817034826904@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 09:13:54 Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > Hi! The last time I tried gnome and wanted to uninstall afterwords I did > > sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome* > > followed by: > > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop Thanks Luís, that certainly seems to have removed lots of gnome stuff! :-) It seems a little strange though, because I'm sure there are things which ubuntu-desktop pulls in, which are still around.... There should really be a cleaner way of doing this IMO. Cheers! Pete. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:06:02 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:06:02 +0200 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <9e11f640710020120r4bb10c18nd7beee1d49a7d0bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <4701E7EF.409@stdin.me.uk> <9e11f640710020120r4bb10c18nd7beee1d49a7d0bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 2/10/2007, Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > I had a similar problem in gutsy and I think it's because the > interface for the configurations in strigi is broken. My solution was > to stop strigi, edit the config file by hand and then restart it. > Anyway, you will have to use paths not url's. Oh, so that is why I can't get strigi to work and it always crashes! What did you do to fix it? -- lanzen From lacsilva at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:28:53 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_A._C._Silva?=) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:28:53 +0200 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <4701E7EF.409@stdin.me.uk> <9e11f640710020120r4bb10c18nd7beee1d49a7d0bd@mail.gmail.com> <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> 2007/10/2, lanzen : > On 2/10/2007, Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > > > I had a similar problem in gutsy and I think it's because the > > interface for the configurations in strigi is broken. My solution was > > to stop strigi, edit the config file by hand and then restart it. > > Anyway, you will have to use paths not url's. > > Oh, so that is why I can't get strigi to work and it always crashes! What did > you do to fix it? > > -- > lanzen > As far as I know strigi is broken in gutsy. I submitted a few bugs to launchpad and I know there is people working on it. I don't know enough to post patches to the code and the only suggestions I can give is to mess with the config files. I couldn't find a lot of docs on those though. I can get strigi to work but it takes 100% cpu all the time. The index is quite good and the searches are very fast. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:47:30 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:47:30 +0200 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710021547.30454.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 2/10/2007, Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > I can get strigi to work but it takes 100% cpu all the time. The index > is quite good and the searches are very fast. I did see it working once and, yes, the cpu was working madly. Thank you for the reply. I'll wait. -- lanzen From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 2 13:58:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:58:43 -0300 Subject: .deb Package References: <46FD312B.3030509@daaokc.com> <20071001191820.5a898b13.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <1410802.kby6UrHid9@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710012210.26827.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <3506445.M8csRB4uLX@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2007 7:22:41 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> James Tappin wrote: >> > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:53:38 -0300 >> > Derek Broughton wrote: >> > >> > DB> I miss kpackage. It could install .debs from other sources 10 >> > years ago (it DB> could install rpms, too). >> > >> > It still exists, it's just not in the default install. [I don't know >> > about KDE4 though] >> >> I know, but I'm disappointed that the Ubuntu people decided to go with an >> inferior package manager, imo, instead of extending KPackage. > > I like Adept package manager. Matter of fact I think it beats any package > manager I've used in the past 10 years from RH to the other 10 or so > distros I've used. Ah, it's probably just that I have never really tried to get used to it... -- derek From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 16:36:55 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:36:55 -0400 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710021236.55312.cms0009@gmail.com> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 9:28:53 am Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > As far as I know strigi is broken in gutsy. I submitted a few bugs to > launchpad and I know there is people working on it. I don't know enough to > post patches to the code and the only suggestions I can give is to mess > with the config files. I couldn't find a lot of docs on those though. > > I can get strigi to work but it takes 100% cpu all the time. The index > is quite good and the searches are very fast Same here.. strigi is crashing all over, have reported to launch pad, however, the report features, send the bug report , but launch pad wants me to sign in.. then when I do , the crash report is not there. They should fix the report bug to launch pad feature, so, when a crash happens one can send a report automatically without signing in. Richard From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 16:51:06 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:51:06 -0400 Subject: Strigi Message-ID: <200710021251.06123.cms0009@gmail.com> Well, allot of these problem may steam from Strigi index that kubuntu is using is outdated... the current version according to the website is .0.9.20 and we are usign 0.5.5 ...hmmmm infact according to synaptic, all my strigi "parts" are 0.5.5 is there a .deb-http:// source for the developer , to add to our source list. since Kubuntu is way behind in current packages for this app,. Richard From jriddell at ubuntu.com Tue Oct 2 16:54:26 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:54:26 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Strigi In-Reply-To: <200710021251.06123.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710021251.06123.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071002165426.GL17824@muse.19inch.net> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Richard wrote: > Well, allot of these problem may steam from Strigi index that kubuntu is using > is outdated... the current version according to the website is .0.9.20 and we > are usign 0.5.5 ...hmmmm infact according to synaptic, all my strigi "parts" > are 0.5.5 Which website is that? http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ says 0.5.5 Jonathan From lacsilva at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 17:16:03 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_A._C._Silva?=) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:16:03 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Strigi In-Reply-To: <20071002165426.GL17824@muse.19inch.net> References: <200710021251.06123.cms0009@gmail.com> <20071002165426.GL17824@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <9e11f640710021016n64a81f06h435662f9ce83411c@mail.gmail.com> 2007/10/2, Jonathan Riddell : > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Richard wrote: > > Well, allot of these problem may steam from Strigi index that kubuntu is using > > is outdated... the current version according to the website is .0.9.20 and we > > are usign 0.5.5 ...hmmmm infact according to synaptic, all my strigi "parts" > > are 0.5.5 > > Which website is that? > > http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ says 0.5.5 > > Jonathan > We are talking about clucene here right? That is the one in version 0.9.20. And actually is the "part" that is causing strigi to crash for me. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Tue Oct 2 17:15:55 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:15:55 +0100 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: <200710012225.01893.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012315.00274.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012225.01893.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710021815.55876.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> > > > > That's the one! Thought somebody would get there eventually ;-) > > > > Seriously, if nobody else has the CD and/or hasn't noticed the problem, > > I'll try to get in touch with whoever runs the database. It's actually > > not much of a problem for me with this CD - it only has one track for the > > entire CD so it's no big deal to just rename it. > > 1 song? You mean to tell me I made myself look like an idiot for 1 song? > and you wasted bandwidth, probably some hyperextension to type the E-Mail, > and 10 minutes of both our time for 1 song on a cd that will hold at least > 18 songs? > > Just kidding dude. :-) > > I hope you figure your problem out, I wouldn't want you to break a sweat > typing the info in ;-) It's one track that fills most of the CD. The quality level 4 ogg file is 59,852,800 bytes. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 18:15:08 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:15:08 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Strigi In-Reply-To: <9e11f640710021016n64a81f06h435662f9ce83411c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710021251.06123.cms0009@gmail.com> <20071002165426.GL17824@muse.19inch.net> <9e11f640710021016n64a81f06h435662f9ce83411c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710021415.08803.cms0009@gmail.com> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 1:16:03 pm Luís A. C. Silva wrote: > We are talking about clucene here right? That is the one in version 0.9.20. > And actually is the "part" that is causing strigi to crash for me. wow. it would appear, Strigi is not ready for major leagues. in gusty. Richard From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 2 19:44:01 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:44:01 -0400 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: <200710021815.55876.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012225.01893.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710021815.55876.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200710021544.01427.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 1:15:55 pm David Fletcher wrote: > > > That's the one! Thought somebody would get there eventually ;-) > > > > > > Seriously, if nobody else has the CD and/or hasn't noticed the problem, > > > I'll try to get in touch with whoever runs the database. It's actually > > > not much of a problem for me with this CD - it only has one track for > > > the entire CD so it's no big deal to just rename it. > > > > 1 song? You mean to tell me I made myself look like an idiot for 1 song? > > and you wasted bandwidth, probably some hyperextension to type the > > E-Mail, and 10 minutes of both our time for 1 song on a cd that will hold > > at least 18 songs? > > > > Just kidding dude. :-) > > > > I hope you figure your problem out, I wouldn't want you to break a sweat > > typing the info in ;-) > > It's one track that fills most of the CD. The quality level 4 ogg file is > 59,852,800 bytes. Whoa! That's One big track. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From temps.jo at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 20:56:16 2007 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:56:16 +0200 Subject: Ripping In-Reply-To: <200710021815.55876.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200709252131.16501.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012315.00274.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200710012225.01893.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710021815.55876.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: Forget 1 & 1 , they changed your pages with htaccess 2007/10/2, David Fletcher : > > > > > > > That's the one! Thought somebody would get there eventually ;-) > > > > > > Seriously, if nobody else has the CD and/or hasn't noticed the > problem, > > > I'll try to get in touch with whoever runs the database. It's actually > > > not much of a problem for me with this CD - it only has one track for > the > > > entire CD so it's no big deal to just rename it. > > > > 1 song? You mean to tell me I made myself look like an idiot for 1 song? > > and you wasted bandwidth, probably some hyperextension to type the > E-Mail, > > and 10 minutes of both our time for 1 song on a cd that will hold at > least > > 18 songs? > > > > Just kidding dude. :-) > > > > I hope you figure your problem out, I wouldn't want you to break a sweat > > typing the info in ;-) > > It's one track that fills most of the CD. The quality level 4 ogg file is > 59,852,800 bytes. > > Dave > > > -- > Registered Linux user number 393408 > > I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 > For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: > http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What relationship does it have to the subject of this thread? and WHY ARE YOU TOP POSTING????? -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 22:43:04 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:43:04 -0400 Subject: Remote desktop Message-ID: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Oh, man! I hate when my brain freezes and takes my Googling skills with it...I am a complete blank. Somebody give me a kick start. I did something with a Dapper installation that allowed me to connect to the login screen from a Windows box using tightVNC. I could then log into my account on the Linux box and do what was needed. At the end of the session, I end the session, Kubuntu logs out of KDE and waits at the graphic login screen for the next time. In other words, the VNCServer survives the X restart. Tried it today on another machine, and couldn't reconnect. I don't want to leave an open Kubuntu session running on a headless box....how did I do this before? If I remember correctly, it had something to do with the init scripts, but I cannot recall what. In Googling for an answer, I ran into references to freeNX. Anybody got any comments about it? (an old, old man) stew From hexstar at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 23:34:47 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:34:47 -0700 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710021634v96c9b83hc2b22343b1e89f3b@mail.gmail.com> Read this article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5499 :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to leave an open Kubuntu session running on > a > headless box....how did I do this before? If I remember correctly, > it > had something to do with the init scripts, but I cannot recall > what. > > In Googling for an answer, I ran into references to freeNX. Anybody > got > any comments about it? > > (an old, old man) > stew > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html From hexstar at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 02:06:10 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:06:10 -0700 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <200710021236.55312.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710021506.02688.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <9e11f640710020628l40562f19td9b0998f7c735208@mail.gmail.com> <200710021236.55312.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710021906l680a8110y670b0c0c3900994@mail.gmail.com> Strigi is not stable in gutsy, perhaps consider uninstalling it instead of trying to get it to cooperate -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed.lau at mail.ee Wed Oct 3 03:40:28 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:40:28 +0300 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47030F2C.7070801@mail.ee> > Oh, man! I hate when my brain freezes and takes my Googling skills with > it...I am a complete blank. Somebody give me a kick start. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 05:04:37 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:04:37 -0400 Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710021906l680a8110y670b0c0c3900994@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710020147.47260.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710021236.55312.cms0009@gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710021906l680a8110y670b0c0c3900994@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710030104.37190.cms0009@gmail.com> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 10:06:10 pm Hex Star wrote: > Strigi is not stable in gutsy, perhaps consider uninstalling it instead of > trying to get it to cooperate Agreed, I will remove it, for now, but there seems to be allot of parts for strigi (like gnome) -Richard From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Oct 3 08:49:33 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Strigi Not indexing usb drive In-Reply-To: <20071002063102.GA6771@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> from "Donatas G." at Oct 02, 2007 09:31:02 AM Message-ID: <200710030849.BAA12100@xpresso.seaslug.org> On Mon Oct 1 23:31:02 2007 Donatas G. wrote: >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:47:47AM -0400, Richard wrote: >> Strigi in 7.10 will not index my usb drive (yes) I want the whole drive >> I used: media:/sda1/ ( as the path) >> >> its not saving the directory to the list of path to index. >> > >Could you perhaps use a common unix path, like perhaps /media/sda1 in >Strigi? This isn't exactly OT, but it's something thats been bugging me for a while now. Here it is: What absolute _MORON_ decided to give USB devices a name that's allready in use? It totally messes up everything for those of us who have SCSI/RAID systems. Anyone got a cure for this? Bill -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From prlewis at letterboxes.org Wed Oct 3 10:58:25 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:58:25 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin Message-ID: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi all, I've just upgraded my gutsy install and noticed that it's now defaulting to dolphin rather than konqueror when I click on the home icon. So, at the risk of baiting... I thought I'd share a few initial thoughts. Hopefully they might spark a bit of discussion. 1. BIG icons. It defaults to "preview" mode, which means big icons for folders and previews for other stuff. I like previews, but usually run file managers in a non-maximised window, so this was really unusable (I could see about 6 icons before having to scroll). Of course, this is configurable, but even by making the icon size in preview mode smaller, the icons are still massively spaced unless I make the preview size smaller, which kind of defeats the point. Looking for an alternative, I switched to icon mode, which spaces things more reasonably. But, as it says on the tin, this doesn't preview files! It seems that konqueror had this sorted out quite nicely with the mouse-over expanding preview function, but I can't see that in dolphin. :-/ Not a great first impression. 2. There's no refresh button. How do I know if it's showing the latest contents if I update the folder from somewhere else (i.e. konsole)? Or is this just a trust issue? It would be nice to *know*. 3. I have to click somewhere before I can type in the address where I want to go to, and where to click is not obvious (or indeed that that functionality even exists). 4. The breadcrumbs things seems broken by design IMO. When I'm in MY home directory, /home/pete, it says "home", then, if I go to /home/pete/work, it says "home->work". Conversely, if I navigate to another user's home folder (say a KDE4 dev user), it says I'm in "root->home->kdedev". This is confusing. Anyway, these are just a few initial thoughts, and I don't mean them to be moaning at all... just in the spirit of feedback and friendly criticism. I've been using KDE since version 1, and dolphin seems to be the most confusing KDE app I've seen. But yes, it is quite fast (not that konqueror is slow though). If this is to be the default file manager in gutsy (or KDE generally), and one of the reasons for this is "usability" (whatever that means), then these IMO need addressing. Cheers, Pete. From jriddell at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 3 11:07:05 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:07:05 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <20071003110702.GV17824@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:58:25AM +0100, Peter Lewis wrote: > 1. BIG icons. It defaults to "preview" mode, which means big icons for folders > and previews for other stuff. Thanks for the notice, I've fixed this now. Jonathan From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 12:02:21 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:02:21 +0200 Subject: gutsy and kdm Message-ID: <200710031402.21749.lanzenesi@gmail.com> I've noticed that there have been a few additions in kcontrol -> kdm. i wanted to try the no-userlist theme, but it seems that kdm, although installed and present, seems disabled. Is it so? So far I've managed to test kubuntu02 no-uselist by coping all files to Kubuntu02. -- lanzen From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 13:57:40 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:57:40 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 6:58:25 pm Peter Lewis wrote: > 2. There's no refresh button. How do I know if it's showing the latest > contents if I update the folder from somewhere else (i.e. konsole)? Or is > this just a trust issue? It would be nice to *know*. You can manually put it by configuring the toolbar (right-click on the toolbar). It's not there by default because Dolphin is supposed to have fixed Konqueror's bug of not automatically updating on changes. > 3. I have to click somewhere before I can type in the address where I want > to go to, and where to click is not obvious (or indeed that that > functionality even exists). There is only actually only one place to click in order to be able to type in the exact location, that is on the icon at the leftmost part of the breadcrumb bar, the Edit Location icon (keyboard shortcut Ctrl+L). > 4. The breadcrumbs things seems broken by design IMO. When I'm in MY home > directory, /home/pete, it says "home", then, if I go to /home/pete/work, it > says "home->work". Conversely, if I navigate to another user's home folder > (say a KDE4 dev user), it says I'm in "root->home->kdedev". This is > confusing. The Home location there is not the /home folder. Notice the difference in case. If you click on the Home button, it will drop down a list of other locations, which, if you'll notice is the same as the Bookmarks. Yes, those are bookmarks, not absolute paths to folders. That Home is your equivalent to ~. Now, if you go to kdedev's home folder, that is not your home folder anymore, not ~. So naturally, it will not say Home. It will give you the breadcrumb from the / though, which is Root. > and dolphin seems to be the most > confusing KDE app I've seen. But yes, it is quite fast (not that konqueror > is slow though). How amusing. You're actually the first person I heard say that. Most people say that Konqueror is the confusing one. But yes, it needs a bit of getting used to the new breadcrumb (since it's something very new to KDE in general, but not to GNOME :P). > If this is to be the default file manager in gutsy (or KDE generally), and > one of the reasons for this is "usability" (whatever that means), then > these IMO need addressing. If it's any comfort to you, the version of Dolphin on Kubuntu (actually it's D3lphin) is far behind in development compared to the one currently in KDE 4. So don't throw in the towel just yet. :) From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 14:01:43 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:01:43 -0400 Subject: Removed Strigi, now need a search engine Message-ID: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> Okay, so I removed all of strigi (which is very very buggy), I notice now when launching konqueror, the start-up home page, does NOT contain the strigi search box anymore... Okay fine. how does one put the OLD search box back in konqueror start-up home page. ??? TIA Richard 7.10 (K)ubuntu From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 14:03:01 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:03:01 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710031003.01936.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 9:57:40 am Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > If it's any comfort to you, the version of Dolphin on Kubuntu (actually > it's D3lphin) is far behind in development compared to the one currently in > KDE 4. So don't throw in the towel just yet. :) Okay, fine... wait until kde 4, then well compare the both. Richard From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 14:21:46 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:21:46 -0400 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu item Message-ID: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> I notice, from 7.04 Kubuntu there use to be a simple .deb Kubuntu installer, you would right click on a .deb package, and select kubuntu installer, and it would have package info, install and uninstall. it would pop open a small window, and ask for root password, and install the app, or complain about dependencies.. Where did it go ? Thanks - Richard From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Oct 3 14:32:59 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:32:59 +0100 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu item In-Reply-To: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4703A81B.9080108@stdin.me.uk> Richard wrote: > I notice, from 7.04 Kubuntu there use to be a simple .deb Kubuntu installer, > you would right click on a .deb package, and select kubuntu installer, and it > would have package info, install and uninstall. > > it would pop open a small window, and ask for root password, > and install the app, or complain about dependencies.. > > Where did it go ? > Thanks - > > > Richard > > In Gutsy this has been replaces with the GDebi Package Installer, you just double click the deb and it installs (and installs dependencies). Terence From lists at ptfd.org Wed Oct 3 14:44:14 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:44:14 -0400 Subject: Removed Strigi, now need a search engine In-Reply-To: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710031044.14229.lists@ptfd.org> install kerry? Mike On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:01:43 am Richard wrote: > Okay, so I removed all of strigi (which is very very buggy), > I notice now when launching konqueror, the start-up home page, does NOT > contain the strigi search box anymore... Okay fine. > > how does one put the OLD search box back in konqueror start-up home page. > ??? > > TIA > > Richard > 7.10 (K)ubuntu From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 15:30:33 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:30:33 +0200 Subject: No UTF-8 in Konqueror Message-ID: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> I have two machines connected via a router. When I ssh into one another via fish:// in konqueror, I cannot read filenames that are not ASCII text. I get gibberish instead. Both machines have the same utf-8 locale. What could cause the gibberish? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 15:35:24 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:35:24 -0400 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu item In-Reply-To: <4703A81B.9080108@stdin.me.uk> References: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> <4703A81B.9080108@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200710031135.24970.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:32:59 am Terence Simpson wrote: > In Gutsy this has been replaces with the GDebi Package Installer, you > just double click the deb and it installs (and installs dependencies). > > Terence Saw, that.. hmm, where the Un-installed button ? just see - reinstall no uninstall Thanks - Richard From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 15:36:35 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:36:35 -0400 Subject: Removed Strigi, now need a search engine In-Reply-To: <200710031044.14229.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710031044.14229.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710031136.35282.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:44:14 am Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > install kerry? > > Mike Hey Mike, is that based on beagle ? heard that strigi was to be the fastest desktop search engine out there. is beagle or kerry fast ? and low on cpu cycles and memory needs ? TIA Richard From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 15:51:23 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:51:23 +0800 Subject: Removed Strigi, now need a search engine In-Reply-To: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710032351.24115.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:01:43 pm Richard wrote: > Okay, so I removed all of strigi (which is very very buggy), > I notice now when launching konqueror, the start-up home page, does NOT > contain the strigi search box anymore... Okay fine. > > how does one put the OLD search box back in konqueror start-up home page. > ??? In Konqueror, go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts. Choose the Default search engine at the bottom. The original is locate. search for it in the drop down list. Also you can even use Google or Altavista if you want... As for a simple desktop search engine... slocate would do. Although it's not as "dynamic" as the more popular ones (don't know how often it automatically updates its index). From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 3 16:51:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:51:52 -0300 Subject: Remote desktop References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2520715.AZT37xQHJL@cedar.serverforest.com> Stew Schneider wrote: > Oh, man! I hate when my brain freezes and takes my Googling skills with > it...I am a complete blank. Somebody give me a kick start. > > I did something with a Dapper installation that allowed me to connect to > the login screen from a Windows box using tightVNC. I could then log > into my account on the Linux box and do what was needed. At the end of > the session, I end the session, Kubuntu logs out of KDE and waits at the > graphic login screen for the next time. In other words, the VNCServer > survives the X restart. Not really. Logging out of KDE (or any desktop) is not an "X restart". > Tried it today on another machine, and couldn't > reconnect. I don't want to leave an open Kubuntu session running on a > headless box....how did I do this before? If I remember correctly, it > had something to do with the init scripts, but I cannot recall what. > > In Googling for an answer, I ran into references to freeNX. Anybody got > any comments about it? I love NX. Freenx is not, I think, in active development. Since FreeNX doesn't provide a Windows client, I needed to install the NoMachine (nonfree) Windows client, and eventually that meant I had to install the NoMachine NX server, because the current Windows NX client won't connect to the current FreeNX server. Anyway, NX clients start their own KDE session. VNC can do that, iirc, but what you're doing is "XDMCP" - connecting to X via XDMCP and then getting the KDM options for login. It's a while since I did XDMCP, but there's a number of options in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc related to XDMCP. -- derek From ed.lau at mail.ee Wed Oct 3 17:37:58 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:37:58 +0300 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <47038A8A.4050001@gmail.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <47030F2C.7070801@mail.ee> <47038A8A.4050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4703D376.1060004@mail.ee> You are welcome! Additionally you can run GUI apps over SSH server by using: ssh -XC username at computer_IP or using non-standard SSH port: ssh -XC username at computer_IP -p where: username - type the remote PC username computer_IP - type the remote PC IP-address - type the remote PC SSH daemon port number -X - enable X11 forwarding -C - enable compression Examples: ssh -XC johndoe at 222.111.222.111 ssh -XC johndoe at 222.111.222.111 -p 2121 You may run SSH daemon at original port (22/tcp) but at router you can define different port, which is accessible from outside world. This GUI forward works if in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is written: X11Forwarding yes When you log in, you can run applications in background like this: xclock & firefox & konqueror & nautilus & openoffice.org2.3 & kcontrol & kinfocenter & ksysguard & kdesu synaptic & kdesu adept & kjobviewer & etc. ... and these GUI apps will open over internet through encrypted SSH tunnel in your PC! Everything you will do, data will be stored over internet to the remote PC. You can open apps and also GUI system configuration utilities. Then you will not disturb remote PC users and still can change, create or delete data at remote PC. And also the video stream transfer is much more bandwith consuming than occasionally saving data over encrypted SSH tunnel. And much more secure, when VNC session is not encrypted by default. You can see and access the same apps over secure SSH and discuss over Skype, phone, etc. Best Regards, Edmund From maurograuso at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 17:42:11 2007 From: maurograuso at gmail.com (Mauro Grauso) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:42:11 +0200 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd go for xrdp you have to "use the source Luke", because to my knowledge there's not precompiled package for ubuntu. the difference between rdp and vnc is that with vnc you are controlling the physical resources of your pc (you could see your mouse moving along the screen if you were in front of the pc), with rdp you are connecting to the machine as a remote user, so you don't control the X session that is attached to the screen (so your pc stays at the login screen even when you're working with it). You can use the debian tutorial (in german, you can use babelfish to translate): http://www.tutorials.de/forum/linux-tutorials/268765-rdp-server-fuer-linux-mit-xrdp.html cheers, Mauro On 10/3/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > Oh, man! I hate when my brain freezes and takes my Googling skills with > it...I am a complete blank. Somebody give me a kick start. > > I did something with a Dapper installation that allowed me to connect to > the login screen from a Windows box using tightVNC. I could then log > into my account on the Linux box and do what was needed. At the end of > the session, I end the session, Kubuntu logs out of KDE and waits at the > graphic login screen for the next time. In other words, the VNCServer > survives the X restart. Tried it today on another machine, and couldn't > reconnect. I don't want to leave an open Kubuntu session running on a > headless box....how did I do this before? If I remember correctly, it > had something to do with the init scripts, but I cannot recall what. > > In Googling for an answer, I ran into references to freeNX. Anybody got > any comments about it? > > (an old, old man) > stew > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 19:28:00 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:28:00 -0400 Subject: Removed Strigi, now need a search engine In-Reply-To: <200710032351.24115.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031001.43386.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710032351.24115.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710031528.00318.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 11:51:23 am Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > Also you can even use Google or Altavista if you want... > > As for a simple desktop search engine... slocate would do. Although it's > not as "dynamic" as the more popular ones (don't know how often it > automatically updates its index). what do you think about google desktop search engine ? Richard From gabrielvc at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 19:54:37 2007 From: gabrielvc at gmail.com (Gabriel) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:54:37 -0500 Subject: MacBook Keyboard Issue Message-ID: I have a MacBook core 2 duo, on which I am running Kubuntu. This laptops come with just one control key, and two Apple (or win) keys, located at both sides of the space bar. I write in spanish, so I configured kbd, through kcontrol, to allow me to switch between keyboard layouts. The problem is that I would like to switch the position of control and Apple keys, but it has been impossible: 1. xmodmap wont work, since kbd overrides the position of the modifier keys 2. kcontrol section option "use mac modifiers" changes the behaviour of the shortcuts, but when I reboot the system the position of control and apple goes back to the old one. 3. xkb options does not allow the switch, as far as I have digged into the (very confusing) documentation of it. Please help me. It is really annoying, specially when I am using emacs, to lack two control keys, and have the only one available so far away from the position of my thumbs! -- ============== = Gabriel Villalobos = Físico - Estudiante de Doctorado = Universidad Nacional de Colombia = Enamoradamente Casado = (091) 3379890 = http://elcaracoli.wordpress.com ============== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stew.schneider at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 20:30:25 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:30:25 -0400 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <4703D376.1060004@mail.ee> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <47030F2C.7070801@mail.ee> <47038A8A.4050001@gmail.com> <4703D376.1060004@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4703FBE1.8040508@gmail.com> I didn't know that! Thanks! s Edmund Laugasson wrote: > You are welcome! Additionally you can run GUI apps over SSH server by using: > > ssh -XC username at computer_IP > > or using non-standard SSH port: > > ssh -XC username at computer_IP -p > > where: > username - type the remote PC username > computer_IP - type the remote PC IP-address > - type the remote PC SSH daemon port number > -X - enable X11 forwarding > -C - enable compression > > Examples: > ssh -XC johndoe at 222.111.222.111 > ssh -XC johndoe at 222.111.222.111 -p 2121 > > You may run SSH daemon at original port (22/tcp) but at router you can define different port, which > is accessible from outside world. > > This GUI forward works if in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is written: X11Forwarding yes > > When you log in, you can run applications in background like this: > xclock & > firefox & > konqueror & > nautilus & > openoffice.org2.3 & > kcontrol & > kinfocenter & > ksysguard & > kdesu synaptic & > kdesu adept & > kjobviewer & > etc. > > ... and these GUI apps will open over internet through encrypted SSH tunnel in your PC! Everything > you will do, data will be stored over internet to the remote PC. You can open apps and also GUI > system configuration utilities. > > Then you will not disturb remote PC users and still can change, create or delete data at remote PC. > And also the video stream transfer is much more bandwith consuming than occasionally saving data > over encrypted SSH tunnel. And much more secure, when VNC session is not encrypted by default. You > can see and access the same apps over secure SSH and discuss over Skype, phone, etc. > > > Best Regards, > Edmund > > From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Oct 3 22:18:26 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:18:26 -0500 Subject: Wine and the Internet Message-ID: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs that I need to know. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From harold_hartley at verizon.net Wed Oct 3 22:58:14 2007 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:58:14 -0400 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> Message-ID: <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> Billie Walsh wrote: > Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. > > I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called > WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small > detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. > > Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through > the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? > > I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs > that I need to know. > Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. Harold From macariov at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 00:22:16 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:22:16 -0400 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1191457336.8250.5.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:58 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > > Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. > > > > I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called > > WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small > > detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. > > > > Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through > > the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? > > > > I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs > > that I need to know. > > > Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine > for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. > > Harold > I've notice that if my internet connection is down while I start the windows program, some will not try to connect after the first failure to do so. Most of those are compiled with the old Visual Studio 6, be it VB or VC++. I have not experienced this with other non-MS Compiler products, but I have not tested that many. From harold_hartley at verizon.net Thu Oct 4 00:45:59 2007 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:59 -0400 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <1191457336.8250.5.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> <1191457336.8250.5.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: <470437C7.5030101@verizon.net> Macario Valle wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:58 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: >> Billie Walsh wrote: >>> Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. >>> >>> I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called >>> WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small >>> detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. >>> >>> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through >>> the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? >>> >>> I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs >>> that I need to know. >>> >> Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine >> for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. >> >> Harold >> > > I've notice that if my internet connection is down while I start the > windows program, some will not try to connect after the first failure to > do so. Most of those are compiled with the old Visual Studio 6, be it > VB or VC++. I have not experienced this with other non-MS Compiler > products, but I have not tested that many. > > But if you read the documentations more, you will find that you can add a .dll file for a app, but not all apps. You would have to find out what .dll or other files it may need in order to get an app to work in wine. You also have the ability to use whatever windows os you may need for the app as well... You will just have to figure out the configurations in wine to make everything work, but don't expect all the apps to work as some apps may need a different setup... Harold From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Oct 4 01:27:23 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:27:23 -0500 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> Harold Hartley wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: >> Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. >> >> I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called >> WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small >> detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. >> >> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through >> the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? >> >> I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs >> that I need to know. >> > Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine > for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. > > Harold > > This is the reply I received from the author of the software: > Hi Billie, > > Thanks for your e-mail. WXSpots first parses a web page (port 80) to > find the IP address of the server to connect to. It then connects to > the server's IP address on port 49153. I hope this helps! OK, now I'm a complete dummy when it comes to this port stuff. I don't use a firewall on my computer [ long story ]. We do have a firewall in the router. Our ISP also has some REAL firewalls in the system. In fact I had some issues connecting to IRC chat and he had to do something to the ports. One of the relay nodes was blocking the stream. The program works fine from Windows so I'm figuring the router and firewalls between me and the net are open for use. Our connection is always hot. Unless the system is down. This isn't a critical thing. Just wanted to try it in Linux to see if it would work. The program runs just fine. Just connecting to the server seems to be a problem. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Oct 4 03:48:36 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:48:36 +0100 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu item In-Reply-To: <200710031135.24970.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> <4703A81B.9080108@stdin.me.uk> <200710031135.24970.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47046294.4070707@stdin.me.uk> Richard wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:32:59 am Terence Simpson wrote: > >> In Gutsy this has been replaces with the GDebi Package Installer, you >> just double click the deb and it installs (and installs dependencies). >> >> Terence >> > > Saw, that.. hmm, where the Un-installed button ? > just see - reinstall no uninstall > > Thanks - > Richard > > > If you want to remove it use Adept/apt, once it's installed it'll be in the package database. Terence From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Oct 4 03:51:40 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:51:40 +0100 Subject: No UTF-8 in Konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4704634C.4080909@stdin.me.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have two machines connected via a router. When I ssh into one > another via fish:// in konqueror, I cannot read filenames that are not > ASCII text. I get gibberish instead. Both machines have the same utf-8 > locale. What could cause the gibberish? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > Not sure why that is, I always tend to use sftp:// rather than fish://. fish:// is a bit of a hack for older ssh systems that don't have sftp support and all modern openssh systems do, see if it happens with that. Terence From cms0009 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 04:41:46 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:41:46 -0400 Subject: automount Message-ID: <200710040041.46217.cms0009@gmail.com> how does one have the usb drive and the main hard drive Automount like they use to in 7.04? (on the desktop) TIA Richard From jjesse at iserv.net Thu Oct 4 05:02:52 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 01:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: automount In-Reply-To: <200710040041.46217.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710040041.46217.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <61669.216.132.62.5.1191474172.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> > how does one have the usb drive and the main hard drive Automount like > they > use to in 7.04? (on the desktop) > > TIA > Richard > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Richard, Two questions: 1. Are you refering to a change in how things work in Gutsy? 2. If so I am not se4eing a difference between my Gutsy update and Feisty that would show there things are handled differently. Jonathan -- Jonathan Jesse From david.mcglone at att.net Thu Oct 4 11:03:49 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 07:03:49 -0400 Subject: X-Server on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta Message-ID: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> I Installed 7.10 beta last night and my X-Server is messed up. My icons are are distorted and X is running really slow and the login screen flickers when logging in. I remember having this problem when I was trying to install compiz or barryl a few months ago but I cannot find barryl to see if its installed and my system says that compiz is not installed. Anybody have any ideas about this? I know the symptoms, I've seen them before and they have got to be related to compiz or barryl and 3D. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From bach.michael at gmx.net Thu Oct 4 12:30:32 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:30:32 +0200 Subject: X-Server on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta In-Reply-To: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4704DCE8.7070300@gmx.net> David McGlone wrote: > I Installed 7.10 beta last night and my X-Server is messed up. My icons are > are distorted and X is running really slow and the login screen flickers when > logging in. I remember having this problem when I was trying to install > compiz or barryl a few months ago but I cannot find barryl to see if its > installed and my system says that compiz is not installed. > > Anybody have any ideas about this? I know the symptoms, I've seen them before > and they have got to be related to compiz or barryl and 3D. Hi David, >From a terminal in an x-session, you can start a program called "glxinfo" and search the output for error messages. Running "glxinfo" usually unveils errors related to graphics and rendering. You can get a decent text terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 from a running x-session. Log in. Run "aptitude search compiz beryl | grep ^i" to see if there are any components of compiz/beryl installed. If there's no output, you can be certain that neither compiz nor beryl are installed. Pressing Alt+F7 brings you back to X. I haven't been in contact with compiz/beryl, so what comes next is guessing: Is there perhabs a setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's not corresponding to your system (Driver, module, frequencies)? Is there perhabs a /etc/defaul/compiz|beryl.conf ? Mike From harold_hartley at verizon.net Thu Oct 4 13:12:22 2007 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:12:22 -0400 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4704E6B6.50107@verizon.net> Billie Walsh wrote: > Harold Hartley wrote: >> Billie Walsh wrote: >>> Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. >>> >>> I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called >>> WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small >>> detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. >>> >>> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through >>> the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? >>> >>> I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs >>> that I need to know. >>> >> Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine >> for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. >> >> Harold >> >> > > This is the reply I received from the author of the software: > >> Hi Billie, >> >> Thanks for your e-mail. WXSpots first parses a web page (port 80) to > > find the IP address of the server to connect to. It then connects to >> the server's IP address on port 49153. I hope this helps! > > OK, now I'm a complete dummy when it comes to this port stuff. I don't > use a firewall on my computer [ long story ]. We do have a firewall in > the router. Our ISP also has some REAL firewalls in the system. In fact > I had some issues connecting to IRC chat and he had to do something to > the ports. One of the relay nodes was blocking the stream. > > The program works fine from Windows so I'm figuring the router and > firewalls between me and the net are open for use. > > Our connection is always hot. Unless the system is down. > > This isn't a critical thing. Just wanted to try it in Linux to see if it > would work. The program runs just fine. Just connecting to the server > seems to be a problem. > > It sounds to me like you need to open ports to receive from the server as I'm sure its sending to the server just fine. If you run a router, then you need to go into it a open the port that is needed by telling it to forward it to what computer its going to and if its either TCP or UDP.... Harold From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Oct 4 13:39:19 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:39:19 +0100 Subject: X-Server on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta In-Reply-To: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4704ED07.8080108@stdin.me.uk> David McGlone wrote: > I Installed 7.10 beta last night and my X-Server is messed up. My icons are > are distorted and X is running really slow and the login screen flickers when > logging in. I remember having this problem when I was trying to install > compiz or barryl a few months ago but I cannot find barryl to see if its > installed and my system says that compiz is not installed. > > Anybody have any ideas about this? I know the symptoms, I've seen them before > and they have got to be related to compiz or barryl and 3D. > If you have xserver-xgl installed it will be used rather than the normal X server, regardless of if you chose an Xgl session or not. Try removing 'xserver-xgl' (if it's installed) and restart KDM. Terence From david.mcglone at att.net Thu Oct 4 13:58:46 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:58:46 -0400 Subject: X-Server on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta In-Reply-To: <4704ED07.8080108@stdin.me.uk> References: <200710040703.51031.david.mcglone@att.net> <4704ED07.8080108@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200710040958.46649.david.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 04 October 2007 9:39:19 am Terence Simpson wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > I Installed 7.10 beta last night and my X-Server is messed up. My icons > > are are distorted and X is running really slow and the login screen > > flickers when logging in. I remember having this problem when I was > > trying to install compiz or barryl a few months ago but I cannot find > > barryl to see if its installed and my system says that compiz is not > > installed. > > > > Anybody have any ideas about this? I know the symptoms, I've seen them > > before and they have got to be related to compiz or barryl and 3D. > > If you have xserver-xgl installed it will be used rather than the normal > X server, regardless of if you chose an Xgl session or not. Try removing > 'xserver-xgl' (if it's installed) and restart KDM. Thanks. That was the culprit. All fixed now. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From cms0009 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:36:17 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:36:17 -0400 Subject: Missing Contextual Menu item In-Reply-To: <47046294.4070707@stdin.me.uk> References: <200710031021.46446.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710031135.24970.cms0009@gmail.com> <47046294.4070707@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200710041036.17753.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 11:48:36 pm Terence Simpson wrote: > If you want to remove it use Adept/apt, once it's installed it'll be in > the package database. > > Terence That fine in all, but the kubuntu version in feisty could remove it, from the contextual menu, without the need to launch another app. Richard From cms0009 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:40:25 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:40:25 -0400 Subject: automount In-Reply-To: <61669.216.132.62.5.1191474172.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <200710040041.46217.cms0009@gmail.com> <61669.216.132.62.5.1191474172.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200710041040.25659.cms0009@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 October 2007 1:02:52 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Richard, > > Two questions: > 1.  Are you refering to a change in how things work in Gutsy? I guess, since my hard drive would mount and usb drive would automatically in fiesty, hence I did not change nothing, expect switch back to konqueror for file manager. I would have to now, goto storage and click on the usb drive, and both of my hard drive icons appear. ( fact ) right click states, to mount usb drive. Second fact: if main drive is already work, (gutsy) and have mount drive icon then it should be display on my desktop (like in fiesty) but its NOT. Third: when I had my usb drive plugin into my laptop, and rebooted, it would automount without me doing nothing. So. there is something wrong or change in gutsy. Richard From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 3 18:46:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:46:28 -0300 Subject: Remote desktop References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> Mauro Grauso wrote: > I'd go for xrdp > > you have to "use the source Luke", because to my knowledge there's not > precompiled package for ubuntu. > > the difference between rdp and vnc is that with vnc you are > controlling the physical resources of your pc (you could see your > mouse moving along the screen if you were in front of the pc), with > rdp you are connecting to the machine as a remote user, so you don't > control the X session that is attached to the screen (so your pc stays > at the login screen even when you're working with it). That's not really right. vnc can either log you into a separate session, or connect to an existing session. For that matter, I think rdp can, too. otoh, I don't know of a way to share an existing session with NX. Sharing would actually be my choice but all of the VNC implementations are far too slow, imo. -- derek From khj at be.cs.appstate.edu Thu Oct 4 15:12:29 2007 From: khj at be.cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth Jacker) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:12:29 -0400 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' Message-ID: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> [ katapult-0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5] Shouldn't I be able to start an 'xterm' instance using Katapult? The executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm, but typing in "xterm" doesn't start the application ... :-( I used "Configure Katapult..." and believe I set things up correctly. Can *you* run 'xterm' from Katapult? Thanks, -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker khj at cs.appstate.edu Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 15:44:16 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:44:16 -0500 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> Message-ID: <720b310e0710040844r63a54b2bq5640dc97bb1c93bc@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > [ katapult-0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5] > > Shouldn't I be able to start an 'xterm' instance using Katapult? The > executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm, but typing in "xterm" doesn't > start the application ... :-( > > I used "Configure Katapult..." and believe I set things up correctly. > > Can *you* run 'xterm' from Katapult? > Isn't konsole the default terminal emulator ? Try running konsole, then try running xterm from there and see if tells you it's not installed. Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 4 15:00:40 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:00:40 -0300 Subject: Wine and the Internet References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> Message-ID: <2773544.gJlOmKCGaA@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > Probably should ask this on some other list but will start here. > > I'm trying out a rather esoteric piece of Windows software called > WXSpots. It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small > detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. > > Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through > the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? Yes. I run two apps that run their own protocols over the Internet, without trouble, but some apps that expect to use IE have traditionally had problems. Modern versions of Wine should install a gecko browser plugin that works in most such situations. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 15:53:40 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:53:40 +0200 Subject: No UTF-8 in Konqueror In-Reply-To: <4704634C.4080909@stdin.me.uk> References: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> <4704634C.4080909@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00710040853t3fbc787ej3544da8ffd8ccaed@mail.gmail.com> On 04/10/2007, Terence Simpson wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have two machines connected via a router. When I ssh into one > > another via fish:// in konqueror, I cannot read filenames that are not > > ASCII text. I get gibberish instead. Both machines have the same utf-8 > > locale. What could cause the gibberish? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > > Not sure why that is, I always tend to use sftp:// rather than fish://. > fish:// is a bit of a hack for older ssh systems that don't have sftp > support and all modern openssh systems do, see if it happens with that. > Thanks, Terence. I installed ProFTP and tried. I get the exact same result: same gibberish. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 4 15:02:32 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:02:32 -0300 Subject: Wine and the Internet References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> <4704E6B6.50107@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1557240.jhkhMDH8xe@cedar.serverforest.com> Harold Hartley wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: >>> Thanks for your e-mail. WXSpots first parses a web page (port 80) to >> > find the IP address of the server to connect to. It then connects to >>> the server's IP address on port 49153. I hope this helps! >> >> OK, now I'm a complete dummy when it comes to this port stuff. I don't >> use a firewall on my computer [ long story ]. We do have a firewall in >> the router. Our ISP also has some REAL firewalls in the system. In fact >> I had some issues connecting to IRC chat and he had to do something to >> the ports. One of the relay nodes was blocking the stream. >> >> The program works fine from Windows so I'm figuring the router and >> firewalls between me and the net are open for use. >> >> > It sounds to me like you need to open ports to receive from the server > as I'm sure its sending to the server just fine. > If you run a router, then you need to go into it a open the port that is > needed by telling it to forward it to what computer its going to and if > its either TCP or UDP.... If that was the case, surely it wouldn't be working under Windows, either... -- derek From prlewis at letterboxes.org Thu Oct 4 15:55:51 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:55:51 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi, On Wednesday 03 October 2007 14:57, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 6:58:25 pm Peter Lewis wrote: > > 2. There's no refresh button. How do I know if it's showing the latest > > contents if I update the folder from somewhere else (i.e. konsole)? Or is > > this just a trust issue? It would be nice to *know*. > > You can manually put it by configuring the toolbar (right-click on the > toolbar). It's not there by default because Dolphin is supposed to have > fixed Konqueror's bug of not automatically updating on changes. "Supposed to"? Cool, well at least I can add it again :-) > > 3. I have to click somewhere before I can type in the address where I > > want to go to, and where to click is not obvious (or indeed that that > > functionality even exists). > > There is only actually only one place to click in order to be able to type > in the exact location, that is on the icon at the leftmost part of the > breadcrumb bar, the Edit Location icon (keyboard shortcut Ctrl+L). > > > 4. The breadcrumbs things seems broken by design IMO. When I'm in MY home > > directory, /home/pete, it says "home", then, if I go to /home/pete/work, > > it says "home->work". Conversely, if I navigate to another user's home > > folder (say a KDE4 dev user), it says I'm in "root->home->kdedev". This > > is confusing. > > The Home location there is not the /home folder. Notice the difference in > case. If you click on the Home button, it will drop down a list of other > locations, which, if you'll notice is the same as the Bookmarks. Yes, those > are bookmarks, not absolute paths to folders. That Home is your equivalent > to ~. > > Now, if you go to kdedev's home folder, that is not your home folder > anymore, not ~. So naturally, it will not say Home. It will give you the > breadcrumb from the / though, which is Root. Thanks for the clarification. I still think that this is confusing though. If the aim of dolphin is to make things easier and more obvious, then these two points seem to do the opposite. I do like konqueror, and KDE in general, because all the functionality is generally laid out in front of me in the various menus or toolbars, not hidden away. That's my one reason for really not liking GNOME. Especially GNOME's save/load file dialog, which requires many more clicks than KDE's, just to expose the functionality I want. But generally, being able to see what I can do is good, and one of KDE's strengths. With GNOME-style stuff *and* what dolphin appears to be like, I end up feeling like I'm having a battle with the app to try to figure out where the functionality is. This isn't helpful, or more "usable". > > and dolphin seems to be the most > > confusing KDE app I've seen. But yes, it is quite fast (not that > > konqueror is slow though). > > How amusing. You're actually the first person I heard say that. Most people > say that Konqueror is the confusing one. But yes, it needs a bit of getting > used to the new breadcrumb (since it's something very new to KDE in > general, but not to GNOME :P). But yeah, I don't personally feel that having lots of options laid out in front of me (konqueror style) is more confusing. On the contrary, it's liberating to see what I can do. Dolphin may be "less confusing" in the sense that it limits your options, but IMO that's why GNOME is bad. Hey, I can always run nautilus in KDE if I want... ;-) > If it's any comfort to you, the version of Dolphin on Kubuntu (actually > it's D3lphin) is far behind in development compared to the one currently in > KDE 4. So don't throw in the towel just yet. :) Oh, I won't, and I'd always prefer to contribute than to run. I'm a big fan of KDE :-) I think as well, and this may not particularly be something people are interested in discussing, but that this move signifies a change in what KDE is for. Is it for its users, or for potential ones? Is it more important to have lots of new users migrating from windows (or even using it on windows), or to be really good at what its current users want? I'd personally go for the latter option... Pete. From m_e_m_p at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 16:24:49 2007 From: m_e_m_p at yahoo.com (m.e m.p) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ??? Message-ID: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi Every Body I & My Friends Have Dell Inspiron 6400 With ATI Radeon 1400 Graphic Card But We Can not Install Ubuntu & Kubuntu (7.4 version) On Our Laptops. If You Know The solution Of This Problem Please Help us . :D Thanks :D Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 16:31:29 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:31:29 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ??? In-Reply-To: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710040931m32224920lb68bae8223cbd@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, m.e m.p wrote: > > Hi Every Body > I & My Friends Have Dell Inspiron 6400 With ATI Radeon 1400 Graphic Card > But We Can not Install Ubuntu & Kubuntu (7.4 version) On Our Laptops. > If You Know The solution Of This Problem Please Help us . > :D Thanks :D > Could we get more info ? Where's it failing ? Have you tried any alternatives. And could you please use plain text when emailing the list ? Pretty please... -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 16:32:24 2007 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:32:24 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ??? In-Reply-To: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2759cf860710040932x2ba53943n915d295450b0d868@mail.gmail.com> This seems like a rather vague problem statement. Can you more explicitly define the problem? On 10/4/07, m.e m.p wrote: > > Hi Every Body > I & My Friends Have Dell Inspiron 6400 With ATI Radeon 1400 Graphic Card > But We Can not Install Ubuntu & Kubuntu (7.4 version) On Our Laptops. > If You Know The solution Of This Problem Please Help us . > :D Thanks :D > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From maurograuso at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 18:58:14 2007 From: maurograuso at gmail.com (Mauro Grauso) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:58:14 +0200 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 10/3/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Mauro Grauso wrote: > > > the difference between rdp and vnc is that with vnc you are > > controlling the physical resources of your pc (you could see your > > mouse moving along the screen if you were in front of the pc), with > > rdp you are connecting to the machine as a remote user, so you don't > > control the X session that is attached to the screen (so your pc stays > > at the login screen even when you're working with it). > > That's not really right. vnc can either log you into a separate session, > or > connect to an existing session. Of course, but you're still taking control of the phisical console session. Mauro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms0009 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:02:37 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:02:37 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ??? In-Reply-To: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710041502.37560.cms0009@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 October 2007 12:24:49 pm m.e m.p wrote: > Hi Every Body > I & My Friends Have Dell Inspiron 6400 With ATI Radeon 1400 Graphic Card  > But We Can not Install Ubuntu & Kubuntu (7.4 version) On Our Laptops. If > You Know The solution Of This Problem Please Help us . > > :D Thanks :D First thing, does the live-cd work on your laptop? without issues ? Richard From khj at be.cs.appstate.edu Thu Oct 4 20:51:28 2007 From: khj at be.cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth Jacker) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:51:28 -0400 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710040844r63a54b2bq5640dc97bb1c93bc@mail.gmail.com> (Greg Booth's message of "Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:44:16 -0500") References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> <720b310e0710040844r63a54b2bq5640dc97bb1c93bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <871wcahacv.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> >> The executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm ... gb> Isn't konsole the default terminal emulator ? Yes, but there are other reasons to use 'xterm'. gb> Try running konsole, ... That starts up fine with Katapult. gb> then try running xterm from there and see if tells gb> you it's not installed. No need -- it *is* installed. (Apparently you didn't see the line quoted above) -Kenneth From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 21:13:04 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:13:04 -0500 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <871wcahacv.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> <720b310e0710040844r63a54b2bq5640dc97bb1c93bc@mail.gmail.com> <871wcahacv.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> Message-ID: <720b310e0710041413y68d0064bx7796ad2c56ab1bf3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > >> The executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm ... > > gb> Isn't konsole the default terminal emulator ? > > Yes, but there are other reasons to use 'xterm'. > > gb> Try running konsole, ... > > That starts up fine with Katapult. > > gb> then try running xterm from there and see if tells > gb> you it's not installed. > > No need -- it *is* installed. > (Apparently you didn't see the line quoted above) > > -Kenneth > You are correct, I missed that. Seems strange, does it work if you fully qualify the name ? -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 4 20:13:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:13:01 -0300 Subject: Remote desktop References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1899852.5ArKSPINs2@cedar.serverforest.com> Mauro Grauso wrote: > On 10/3/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> Mauro Grauso wrote: >> >> > the difference between rdp and vnc is that with vnc you are >> > controlling the physical resources of your pc (you could see your >> > mouse moving along the screen if you were in front of the pc), with >> > rdp you are connecting to the machine as a remote user, so you don't >> > control the X session that is attached to the screen (so your pc stays >> > at the login screen even when you're working with it). >> >> That's not really right. vnc can either log you into a separate session, >> or connect to an existing session. > > Of course, but you're still taking control of the phisical console > session. An odd choice of words, since vnc _never_ actually touches physical consoles. I must assume you really mean DISPLAY :0 - the one you generally get when you log in directly on your computer. Anyway, you're wrong. It _can_ "take control" of display :0, and that's why Kubuntu provides krfb. But I can also log in as a completely separate session, leaving the "physical console" untouched. -- derek From david.mcglone at att.net Thu Oct 4 22:22:58 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:22:58 -0400 Subject: A little something Message-ID: <200710041822.58917.david.mcglone@att.net> Hi all, I've run into another slight problem, nothing major. I have a desktop computer that I mount 2 partitions onto my laptop. Before I upgraded I had all permissions to read and write, but now only root can read and write to the partitions. the permissions never changed, fstab never changed, usernames nor passwords never changed either. Anyone have any ideas where I should start to fix this problem? Thanks, -- David M. Send forth your light and your truth, let them guide me. psalm 43:3 From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 00:16:09 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:16:09 +0800 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> Message-ID: <200710050816.09998.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 October 2007 11:12:29 pm Kenneth Jacker wrote: > [ katapult-0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5] > > Shouldn't I be able to start an 'xterm' instance using Katapult? The > executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm, but typing in "xterm" doesn't > start the application ... :-( > > I used "Configure Katapult..." and believe I set things up correctly. > > Can *you* run 'xterm' from Katapult? Katapult's Program Catalog only indexes items that are found in the K Menu. So if you want to run items not in the K Menu, you'll have to add it to the menu. An alternative and probably easier way is to use the Execute catalog. I'm not sure if the version of Katapult in Feisty has this catalog, but it's present in Gutys (Katapult 0.3.2). Type "exec xterm" in Katapult to launch xterm. You can configure Katapult to use a shorter trigger word if you want. Hope that helps. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri Oct 5 00:10:13 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:10:13 -0700 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> Message-ID: <87tzp6qv4q.fsf@fjellstad.org> Kenneth Jacker writes: > [ katapult-0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5] > > Shouldn't I be able to start an 'xterm' instance using Katapult? The > executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm, but typing in "xterm" doesn't > start the application ... :-( > > I used "Configure Katapult..." and believe I set things up correctly. > > Can *you* run 'xterm' from Katapult? for some reason, katapult can only start programs that is in the menu system (at least I can't start anything not in the menu) -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 01:29:58 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 03:29:58 +0200 Subject: A little something In-Reply-To: <200710041822.58917.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710041822.58917.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: > Anyone have any ideas where I should start to fix this problem? I'd look at groups. I think they use a number internally and when you upgrade it starts from a diff. number. Check the man commands for "groups" \d From m_e_m_p at yahoo.com Fri Oct 5 01:46:30 2007 From: m_e_m_p at yahoo.com (m.e m.p) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ???(2) Message-ID: <194628.3566.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi Every Body I must describe Problem: When We Put The Cd Or Dvd In Laptops After Coming The First Page When We Choose The Install.... & Going Thats Toolbar Our Desktop is Remote . & In The Text Model In Install The Computer says That the some Package is not in ... & In spite Of the Installation Not Complete the error comes after over & over . Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's a lot simpler than straight-up compiz IMHO. try sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-kde >From there follow these instructions: http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion HTH. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 If You Know What's Good For You, You'll Install Linux John 3:16! From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 03:58:24 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:58:24 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ???(2) In-Reply-To: <194628.3566.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <194628.3566.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/4/07, m.e m.p wrote: > > Hi Every Body > I must describe Problem: > When We Put The Cd Or Dvd In Laptops After Coming The First Page When We > Choose The Install.... & Going Thats Toolbar Our Desktop is Remote . > & In The Text Model In Install The Computer says That the some Package is > not in ... & In spite Of the Installation Not Complete the error comes > after over & over . I'm not so sure (the English is pretty mangled) but I'm thinking that this is a dependency problem. You guys? -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 If You Know What's Good For You, You'll Install Linux John 3:16! From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 04:37:02 2007 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:37:02 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ???(2) In-Reply-To: <194628.3566.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <194628.3566.qm@web58907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2759cf860710042137w1f67ce05i209209ca7be503ea@mail.gmail.com> Is this the normal livecd installer or alternate installer? On 10/4/07, m.e m.p wrote: > > Hi Every Body > I must describe Problem: > When We Put The Cd Or Dvd In Laptops After Coming The First Page When We > Choose The Install.... & Going Thats Toolbar Our Desktop is Remote . > & In The Text Model In Install The Computer says That the some Package is > not in ... & In spite Of the Installation Not Complete the error comes > after over & over . > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From maurograuso at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 07:50:13 2007 From: maurograuso at gmail.com (Mauro Grauso) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:50:13 +0200 Subject: Remote desktop In-Reply-To: <1899852.5ArKSPINs2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> <1899852.5ArKSPINs2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 10/4/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > An odd choice of words, since vnc _never_ actually touches physical > consoles. 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URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 11:13:51 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:13:51 +0200 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710032157.40780.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: > I think as well, and this may not particularly be something people are > interested in discussing, but that this move signifies a change in what KDE > is for. Is it for its users, or for potential ones? Is it more important to > have lots of new users migrating from windows (or even using it on windows), > or to be really good at what its current users want? > > I'd personally go for the latter option... > Pete I want a system that is strong and easy to use. Everyone else here can also state what they want but how can you know what people that are not using KDE want? Is someone paying to do statistically significant research on this or is someone just guessing based on what MS or Apple is doing or what they think someone MIGHT like? Also if you don't like the new stuff it would still be easy to install konqueror right? Douglas From khj at be.cs.appstate.edu Fri Oct 5 11:29:29 2007 From: khj at be.cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth Jacker) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:29:29 -0400 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710041413y68d0064bx7796ad2c56ab1bf3@mail.gmail.com> (Greg Booth's message of "Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:13:04 -0500") References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> <720b310e0710040844r63a54b2bq5640dc97bb1c93bc@mail.gmail.com> <871wcahacv.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> <720b310e0710041413y68d0064bx7796ad2c56ab1bf3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87myuxztnq.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> gb> You are correct, I missed that. No problem. gb> Seems strange, does it work if you fully qualify the name ? No. -Kenneth From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 12:28:49 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:28:49 -0400 Subject: No UTF-8 in Konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00710040853t3fbc787ej3544da8ffd8ccaed@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> <4704634C.4080909@stdin.me.uk> <880dece00710040853t3fbc787ej3544da8ffd8ccaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710050528n3627803fwfc7412a073dd938f@mail.gmail.com> > On 10/4/07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 04/10/2007, Terence Simpson wrote: > > Not sure why that is, I always tend to use sftp:// rather than fish://. > > fish:// is a bit of a hack for older ssh systems that don't have sftp > > support and all modern openssh systems do, see if it happens with that. > > > > Thanks, Terence. I installed ProFTP and tried. I get the exact same > result: same gibberish. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת Not sure if this is your problem, but there are two different modes for transferring files with ftp. There is binary mode and ASCII mode. I am not certain if ssh and sftp have implemented file support for utf-8, but it should be implemented. Maybe there is an "utf-8 mode" just like there is binary mode and ASCII mode in ftp. HTH a little, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 13:00:36 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:00:36 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710052100.37498.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Friday 05 October 2007 7:13:51 pm Knapp wrote: > Also if you don't like the new stuff it would still be easy to install > konqueror right? Konqueror is still there installed. It is still the default web browser, and the alterate file manager. Changing from Dolphin to Konqueror as the default file manager is done simply by changing the File Associations. In KDE 3, you just need to change inode/directory and inode/system_directory to use Konqueror instead of Dolphin. From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 13:08:55 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:08:55 -0500 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <20071003110702.GV17824@muse.19inch.net> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071003110702.GV17824@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0710050608y584aa878n878df15e2b073acb@mail.gmail.com> > Thanks for the notice, I've fixed this now. > > Jonathan Since people are ... I won't say reluctant, but apprehensive perhaps.. about changing from Konqueror to Dolphin is there going to be an easy way, or at least some good documentation on what to do if you want to switch back to Konqueror ? -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 5 13:01:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:01:33 -0300 Subject: Remote desktop References: <4702C978.4000301@gmail.com> <1864100.Bv30MaTglc@cedar.serverforest.com> <1899852.5ArKSPINs2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <3546981.KdR4KtGKyJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Mauro Grauso wrote: > On 10/4/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> >> An odd choice of words, since vnc _never_ actually touches physical >> consoles. I must assume you really mean DISPLAY :0 - the one you >> generally >> get when you log in directly on your computer. > > > Absolutely yes. I meant display :0. Sorry for wrong choice of words. > > Anyway, you're wrong. It _can_ "take control" of display :0, and that's > why >> Kubuntu provides krfb. But I can also log in as a completely separate >> session, leaving the "physical console" untouched. > > > But if you phisically switch to the other console (ALT+Fx) you'd be able > to see the output. Did I get what you meant? No, you wouldn't. The vnc session is (if you want it to be) completely separate from the sessions you see actually on the computer (specifically, they'll be on displays :5900+). Of course, just as you can share the computer's display, you could share the VNC display - I've actually done it for some reason lost in the mists of time. So you start up krfb in the VNC session, then start _another_ vnc session from the physical computer, and share the original VNC session. Now that I think of it, I hope I only did that as proof of concept - it's pretty warped :-) -- derek From prlewis at letterboxes.org Fri Oct 5 15:10:58 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:10:58 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710051610.59783.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Friday 05 October 2007 12:13:51 Knapp wrote: > I want a system that is strong and easy to use. Everyone else here can > also state what they want but how can you know what people that are > not using KDE want? Is someone paying to do statistically significant > research on this or is someone just guessing based on what MS or Apple > is doing or what they think someone MIGHT like? Yeah, that's the worry I think. I hope too many long time KDE users like me aren't getting put off by the apparent change of emphasis... Actually, I hope that the emphasis doesn't change too much :-) > Also if you don't like the new stuff it would still be easy to install > konqueror right? Yeah, of course konqueror is still there for those that like it (maybe me). I'm trying with dolphin, but it does seem to frustrate me somewhat - I just realised I had to reconfigure the toolbar just to get an "up" button! Surely the difference between "up" and "back" is relevant and not particularly confusing! Pete. From tpankonien at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 16:10:16 2007 From: tpankonien at gmail.com (Trevor) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:10:16 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu ,Kubuntu ----> How ??? In-Reply-To: <200710041502.37560.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <367058.76416.qm@web58905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200710041502.37560.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470661E8.6000407@gmail.com> I have the same laptop. When 7.4 came out, I originally was going to reinstall just to clear some of the junk off that I had installed trying to get various things to work (wireless, video card, etc.) Using the live cd, I seem to recall it hanging during boot and complaining about the Broadcom wireless. So instead of fighting with it, I rebooted and just did an upgrade and cleaned all the junk off by hand. If that is the same wireless chip you have, google around as I seem to recall seeing a solution to disable it during install...the alt. installer may work as well. I may be doing a complete reinstall when 7.10 goes live just for the hell of it. That may be your best bet, as 7.10 should be release within 2 weeks. Otherwise, I would try the alt. installer or use the beta of Gutsy. I have it (Gutsy) on a few other machines and is running fine. I just can't on my laptop do to it being my laptop for work and not having enough time to tinker with it if something were to break during the upgrade. Good luck Richard wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2007 12:24:49 pm m.e m.p wrote: >> Hi Every Body >> I & My Friends Have Dell Inspiron 6400 With ATI Radeon 1400 Graphic Card >> But We Can not Install Ubuntu & Kubuntu (7.4 version) On Our Laptops. If >> You Know The solution Of This Problem Please Help us . >> >> :D Thanks :D > > First thing, does the live-cd work on your laptop? > without issues ? > > Richard > > From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 17:23:13 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:23:13 +0200 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710051610.59783.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710041655.51994.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710051610.59783.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: >Surely > the difference between "up" and "back" is relevant and not particularly > confusing! > > Pete. > Try explaining that to my wife. LOL She just puts what she needs on the desktop (Or makes me do it) and clicks it. For me yes, it is obvious. Douglas From cms0009 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 17:38:09 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:38:09 -0400 Subject: Compiz In-Reply-To: References: <200710042214.41934.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710051338.09087.cms0009@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 October 2007 11:56:40 pm Chris Miller wrote: > On 10/4/07, Richard wrote: > > Anyone running compiz (3d) under kubuntu 7.10 ? > > if so, any problems ? > > Other than a slow laptop and 3D chip? No. > > If you're looking for something other than Beryl, try Compiz-fusion. > It's a lot simpler than straight-up compiz IMHO. try sudo apt-get > install compiz-fusion-kde > > From there follow these instructions: > http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion > > HTH. > > -- > Registered Linux Addict #431495 > If You Know What's Good For You, You'll Install Linux > John 3:16! Thanks Chris Richard From david.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 5 18:24:39 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:24:39 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710050608y584aa878n878df15e2b073acb@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071003110702.GV17824@muse.19inch.net> <720b310e0710050608y584aa878n878df15e2b073acb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 05 October 2007 9:08:55 am Greg Booth wrote: > > Thanks for the notice, I've fixed this now. > > > > Jonathan > > Since people are ... I won't say reluctant, but apprehensive perhaps.. > about changing from Konqueror to Dolphin is there going to be an easy > way, or at least some good documentation on what to do if you want to > switch back to Konqueror ? What I don't understand about Dolphin is, why have 2 apps that do the same job? For instance, If I'm surfing the web and I decide to go to my home directory, I just hit the home button or type it in the URL or use the sidebar, Why open a whole new window, why even have split view for that matter. IMO I think Kopete should be integrated into Kontact 1 app, that pretty much takes care of all your chat and e-mail needs, complete with notes, addresses, calendar, etc etc. Think about the people that use Kontact on a daily basis and chat with clients etc etc, and they have to switch back and forth from their schedule to their chat window when setting appointments or such things like that. Think about when your chatting with a friend in Kopete and they send you and e-mail, instead of sitting there and waiting for the mail or clicking the check mail button, you have to open Kontact first. And if a person doesn't want this functionality or don't use Kontact they can open Kontact as a stand alone app like it is now. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Oct 5 19:51:05 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:51:05 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <720b310e0710050608y584aa878n878df15e2b073acb@mail.gmail.com> <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710051551.05598.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 05 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > And if a person doesn't want this functionality or don't use Kontact they > can open Kontact as a stand alone app like it is now. Or just use KMail and KAddressBook the same as always. I never use Kontact. Or Kopete for that matter. But it might be possible to make Kopete into a KPart or whatever the way they did with KMail and the rest to integrate them into Kontact. -- D. Michael McIntyre From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 5 21:27:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:27:01 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071003110702.GV17824@muse.19inch.net> <720b310e0710050608y584aa878n878df15e2b073acb@mail.gmail.com> <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <3387128.2AWDrmfCjv@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007 9:08:55 am Greg Booth wrote: >> > Thanks for the notice, I've fixed this now. >> > >> > Jonathan >> >> Since people are ... I won't say reluctant, but apprehensive perhaps.. >> about changing from Konqueror to Dolphin is there going to be an easy >> way, or at least some good documentation on what to do if you want to >> switch back to Konqueror ? > > What I don't understand about Dolphin is, why have 2 apps that do the same > job? For instance, If I'm surfing the web and I decide to go to my home > directory, I just hit the home button or type it in the URL or use the > sidebar, Why open a whole new window, why even have split view for that > matter. LOL. _I_ like konqueror as it is, but many people have the odd opinion that a web browser should browse the web and a file manager should manage files, and never cross paths. This is the sort of fuzzy thinking that leaves them asking on the ubuntu-users list how they can edit something directly on an FTP site :-) > > Think about when your chatting with a friend in Kopete and they send you I _never_ think about chatting in Kopete... > and e-mail, instead of sitting there and waiting for the mail or clicking > the check mail button, you have to open Kontact first. > > And if a person doesn't want this functionality or don't use Kontact they > can open Kontact as a stand alone app like it is now. That almost made me choke! There are already enough problems trying to get the components of kontact to behave as well _in_ kontact as they do when run stand-alone. korganizer won't import .ics files unless it runs stand-alone. kmail used to have similar issues - I haven't run into them recently, so perhaps they're fixed. -- derek From labradley at mindspring.com Fri Oct 5 21:41:14 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:41:14 -0500 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. Message-ID: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> I made the mistake of unnecessarily logging out of KDE. Now the system will not run kdm and start KDE. The system stops at the end of running rc.local where my message says 'startx completed successfully'. The only way to get KDE running is to open a console at F1 and run startx. Does anyone have an idea of how to get the system back to running kde so I can log in and then start KDE normally? Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 00:08:07 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:08:07 -0400 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 05 October 2007 5:41:14 pm Larry Alkoff wrote: > I made the mistake of unnecessarily logging out of KDE. Now the system > will not run kdm and start KDE. The system stops at the end of running > rc.local where my message says 'startx completed successfully'. The > only way to get KDE running is to open a console at F1 and run startx. > > Does anyone have an idea of how to get the system back to running kde so > I can log in and then start KDE normally? sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 00:26:44 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:26:44 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <3387128.2AWDrmfCjv@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> <3387128.2AWDrmfCjv@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710052026.44680.david.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 05 October 2007 5:27:01 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > What I don't understand about Dolphin is, why have 2 apps that do the > > same job? For instance, If I'm surfing the web and I decide to go to my > > home directory, I just hit the home button or type it in the URL or use > > the sidebar, Why open a whole new window, why even have split view for > > that matter. > > LOL. _I_ like konqueror as it is, but many people have the odd opinion > that a web browser should browse the web and a file manager should manage > files, and never cross paths. This is the sort of fuzzy thinking that > leaves them asking on the ubuntu-users list how they can edit something > directly on an FTP site :-) I completely understand. I'll bet if ubuntu took konqueror, changed the name, gave it a different Icon removed the URL bar remove some of the icons that make konqueror look like konqueror or just put different icons there nobody would know the difference :-) Basically just make Konq look different and call it something else. LOL! > > > Think about when your chatting with a friend in Kopete and they send you > > I _never_ think about chatting in Kopete... > > > and e-mail, instead of sitting there and waiting for the mail or clicking > > the check mail button, you have to open Kontact first. > > > > And if a person doesn't want this functionality or don't use Kontact they > > can open Kontact as a stand alone app like it is now. > > That almost made me choke! There are already enough problems trying to get > the components of kontact to behave as well _in_ kontact as they do when > run stand-alone. True. > korganizer won't import .ics files unless it runs > stand-alone. kmail used to have similar issues - I haven't run into them > recently, so perhaps they're fixed. Probably so. The whole purpose of me mentioning this was not because I want it to happen, but that is the way I think. If it was up to me, I'd even add Konq to kontact. 1 app for chat, e-mail, appointments, address's notes and calendar and web. Oh yeah, and a checkbook program like moneydance or kmymoney and at least a word processor. Now that's my ideal office app. :-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 00:31:38 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:31:38 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710052026.44680.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <3387128.2AWDrmfCjv@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710052026.44680.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710052031.38429.david.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 05 October 2007 8:26:44 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007 5:27:01 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > David McGlone wrote: > I completely understand. I'll bet if ubuntu took konqueror, changed the > name, gave it a different Icon removed the URL bar remove some of the icons > that make konqueror look like konqueror or just put different icons there > nobody would know the difference :-) Basically just make Konq look > different and call it something else. LOL! I forgot to add the fact that Dolphin probably is what I explained above with a preview pane on the right. :-) > > > > Think about when your chatting with a friend in Kopete and they send > > > you > > > > I _never_ think about chatting in Kopete... > > > > > and e-mail, instead of sitting there and waiting for the mail or > > > clicking the check mail button, you have to open Kontact first. > > > > > > And if a person doesn't want this functionality or don't use Kontact > > > they can open Kontact as a stand alone app like it is now. > > > > That almost made me choke! There are already enough problems trying to > > get the components of kontact to behave as well _in_ kontact as they do > > when run stand-alone. > > True. > > > korganizer won't import .ics files unless it runs > > stand-alone. kmail used to have similar issues - I haven't run into them > > recently, so perhaps they're fixed. > > Probably so. The whole purpose of me mentioning this was not because I want > it to happen, but that is the way I think. If it was up to me, I'd even add > Konq to kontact. 1 app for chat, e-mail, appointments, address's notes and > calendar and web. Oh yeah, and a checkbook program like moneydance or > kmymoney and at least a word processor. > > Now that's my ideal office app. :-) > > > > -- > David M. > > If I received .01 cent for every person > that has to put in their .02 cents > I'd be rich! -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 6 00:37:00 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:37:00 -0400 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 05 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5. Uh, on a Debian (based) system, all runlevels are the same except 1 and 6, and the normal default is 2. So that's not it. Based on what he said, I'd get to the console login, and then look in /var/log for clues, like /var/log/Xorg.0.log Maybe it ends with a hint what's going wrong. I can't think of any reasonable suspects off the top of my head, given what he said about all of this coming about as a result of merely logging out. -- D. Michael McIntyre From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 01:15:10 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:15:10 -0400 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 05 October 2007 8:37:00 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5. Very true. I am a recent SuSE convert. Been running Kubuntu for about 8 months now and I really love it. I'll never ever go back to any other distro. > > Uh, on a Debian (based) system, all runlevels are the same except 1 and 6, > and the normal default is 2. > > So that's not it. > > Based on what he said, I'd get to the console login, and then look in > /var/log for clues, like /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > Maybe it ends with a hint what's going wrong. > > I can't think of any reasonable suspects off the top of my head, given what > he said about all of this coming about as a result of merely logging out. Only thing I can think of is maybe a wrong X configuration. He didn't mention if he changed anything monitor specific that maybe his monitor couldn't handle before he logged out so I wonder if that could be the case. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From labradley at mindspring.com Sat Oct 6 04:09:01 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:09:01 -0500 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007 8:37:00 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> On Friday 05 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: >>> sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5. > > Very true. I am a recent SuSE convert. Been running Kubuntu for about 8 months > now and I really love it. I'll never ever go back to any other distro. >> Uh, on a Debian (based) system, all runlevels are the same except 1 and 6, >> and the normal default is 2. >> >> So that's not it. >> >> Based on what he said, I'd get to the console login, and then look in >> /var/log for clues, like /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> >> Maybe it ends with a hint what's going wrong. >> >> I can't think of any reasonable suspects off the top of my head, given what >> he said about all of this coming about as a result of merely logging out. > > Only thing I can think of is maybe a wrong X configuration. He didn't mention > if he changed anything monitor specific that maybe his monitor couldn't > handle before he logged out so I wonder if that could be the case. > Hello David and Michael. Thank you for trying to help. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I notice the error line: (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable At the Kubuntu forum I found a thread that says there is a problem 'KDM won't restart after logout' dated September 26, 2007, Based on this, I did a logout, then hit the reset button and everything came up automatically and correct. There is another thread that suggests to reload kdm 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' that I might try. I have had other problems with reboots stalling unless I do a complete power-down shutdown. If the problem doesn't get solved I'll just wait and do a complete virgin install of Gutsy when it comes out. Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 6 04:16:39 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:16:39 -0400 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200710060016.39541.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 06 October 2007, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Based on this, I did a logout, then hit the reset button and everything > came up automatically and correct. Hrm. There's nothing quite like a sledge hammer. > I have had other problems with reboots stalling unless I do a complete > power-down shutdown. If the problem doesn't get solved I'll just wait > and do a complete virgin install of Gutsy when it comes out. Actually, now that you mention it, my computer goes into a total freeze if I ever try to log out. I think it's the stupid ATI drivers, but Google Earth is so fun to play with... I hate proprietary video drivers. -- D. Michael McIntyre From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Sat Oct 6 08:11:16 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:11:16 +0100 Subject: Just a comment Message-ID: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know the difference between your (belonging to you) and you're (short for you are). As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. Neil Winchurst From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Sat Oct 6 09:55:05 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:55:05 +0100 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Saturday 06 Oct 2007, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > the difference between > > your (belonging to you) and > > you're (short for you are). > > As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. > > Neil Winchurst I, too, am amazed and disappointed by the huge number of people who are unskilled in the use of the English language, particularly the apostrophe. This, however, is a mailing list for computer enthusiasts. It is not the mailing list of the English Writers Guild, so in this place I ignore all incorrect use of the apostrophe and bad spelling. If anybody here would like to seek help with their English skills, I am sure there are other communities on the Internet to which they can turn for help. This is not one of those places. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From hc at henrikch.dk Sat Oct 6 10:06:06 2007 From: hc at henrikch.dk (Henrik Christiansen) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:06:06 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <47075E0E.5060902@henrikch.dk> David Fletcher skrev: > I, too, am amazed and disappointed by the huge number of people who are > unskilled in the use of the English language, particularly the apostrophe. I, too, am amazed and disappointed by the huge number of english speaking people who don't understand that most people in the world don't have english as there first language.... From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 10:18:53 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:18:53 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <47075E0E.5060902@henrikch.dk> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <47075E0E.5060902@henrikch.dk> Message-ID: Everyone out there that sucks at English please feel free to post! This list is about helping others with Linux, Kubuntu not spelling or speaking or writing! I live in German and am from the USA. I am amazed at the number of people who speak English well as a second language. They start here in 3rd grade and next year, in first grade with English. Then they go on to French, Spanish and others. I have met large numbers of people here that can speak well in 5 languages. I started Spanish first time I could; in 9th grade! And no I can't speak it now. While we are talking about spelling I would love to point out that I can't spell and I have a Masters of Science. I am dyslexic. And many other people out there have all sorts of reasons for what they do. Can we possibly be any more off topic? Douglas From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 10:26:14 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:26:14 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux Message-ID: A while back, we where talking about needs to use MS and not Linux. Someone said storm traking was their reason. I found this today. >From here: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8223#post8223 Quote: Originally Posted by rockmanac No alternative exists for GRLevel3. Of course, you've probably never heard of that. It's a piece of software for downloading NWS radar in basically real-time. (I'm a storm spotter.. It's an essential piece of software). The Answer: I work as a contractor to NWS at the NOAA headquarters in MD and lead the software team on the AWIPS (Advanced Weather Information Processing System) project responsible for collecting and distributing those very same RADAR products from the 160+ NWS weather forecast offices (WFOs). My team is also responsible for the Satellite Broadcast Network, which is used to distribute NWS data to anyone who wants to put a dish up to collect it (like television stations, universities, etc.). All of the AWIPS hardware, including the graphical workstations used by NWS forecasters, run Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 only. Windows is not used at all in AWIPS. I run openSUSE 10.2 on my desktop at work and have no problem interacting with others who use Windows. NOAA is committed to open source where it makes sense. Anyone who claims that Linux isn't "ready for the desktop" is really clueless. From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Sat Oct 6 10:30:44 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:30:44 +0100 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <47075E0E.5060902@henrikch.dk> Message-ID: <470763D4.9080003@googlemail.com> Knapp wrote: > > Can we possibly be any more off topic? > I'm sure we could if we tried :-) From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 10:31:58 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:31:58 -0400 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4707641E.9050207@gmail.com> Larry Alkoff wrote: > I have had other problems with reboots stalling unless I do a complete > power-down shutdown. If the problem doesn't get solved I'll just wait > and do a complete virgin install of Gutsy when it comes out. I wasn't paying attention earlier in the thread, but that rang a bell. Is this perhaps a Dell? Some Dells had a bios problem causing reboots to stall unless preceded by a complete power down. stew From guido.dom at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 11:00:58 2007 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:00:58 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <470763D4.9080003@googlemail.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <47075E0E.5060902@henrikch.dk> <470763D4.9080003@googlemail.com> Message-ID: OK, but if you or a lot of the others would try to post in French or Dutch or ...., I'm sure I would be amazed too. Thers are other - ven important - languages besides (US)English!! 2007/10/6, SteVe Cook : > > Knapp wrote: > > > > Can we possibly be any more off topic? > > > I'm sure we could if we tried :-) > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 11:15:09 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:15:09 -0400 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200710060715.09441.david.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 October 2007 4:11:16 am Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > the difference between > > your (belonging to you) and > > you're (short for you are). > > As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. I've noticed a few people on the list that don't speak English very well because it is not their native language. As for me I am Deaf, so spelling and reading is my strongest area, but If I misspell a word or use improper punctuation on a mailing list or accidentally use the wrong grammar I don't worry about it. I paid my dues to 12 years of grade School and 4 years of college :-) Can I collect my .02 now ;-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 6 11:23:47 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:23:47 -0400 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 October 2007 4:11:16 am Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > the difference between > > your (belonging to you) and > > you're (short for you are). > > As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. I also forgot, I know you are referring to me in this comment: "sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5." but to me it's easier to type your than you're :-) I guess we can start a thread about how I didn't capitalize my last sentence. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Oct 6 11:45:09 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:45:09 -0500 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47077545.5020100@swbell.net> Knapp wrote: > A while back, we where talking about needs to use MS and not Linux. > Someone said storm traking was their reason. I found this today. > >>From here: > http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8223#post8223 > > Quote: > Originally Posted by rockmanac > No alternative exists for GRLevel3. Of course, you've probably never > heard of that. It's a piece of software for downloading NWS radar in > basically real-time. (I'm a storm spotter.. It's an essential piece of > software). > > The Answer: > > I work as a contractor to NWS at the NOAA headquarters in MD and lead > the software team on the AWIPS (Advanced Weather Information > Processing System) project responsible for collecting and distributing > those very same RADAR products from the 160+ NWS weather forecast > offices (WFOs). My team is also responsible for the Satellite > Broadcast Network, which is used to distribute NWS data to anyone who > wants to put a dish up to collect it (like television stations, > universities, etc.). All of the AWIPS hardware, including the > graphical workstations used by NWS forecasters, run Red Hat Enterprise > Linux 4 only. Windows is not used at all in AWIPS. I run openSUSE 10.2 > on my desktop at work and have no problem interacting with others who > use Windows. NOAA is committed to open source where it makes sense. > Anyone who claims that Linux isn't "ready for the desktop" is really > clueless. > GRLevel3 is one piece of software we use. I would be most interested in knowing what software is used in Linux to do what GRLevel3 does. I've been using Linux 99.9........% of the time for well over a year now. I find fewer and fewer reasons to fire up Windows. The better half has to have Windows to work, it's a requirement of her online job, so I can't migrate her to full time. I've been working on her to use it whenever she isn't working but so far no luck. Other than a few niggling little issues I think Linux IS ready for main stream "Joe User". Things like DVD playing, MP3, Video...... All easily "fixed" once the OS is installed, BUT "Joe User" expects all that "right-out-of-the-box" as soon as he turns it on. In most cases these things are taken care of in "boxed" releases because that's what your paying for. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From lists at amyl.org.uk Sat Oct 6 12:19:37 2007 From: lists at amyl.org.uk (Adam McGreggor) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:19:37 +0100 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <20071006121937.GD19468@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 07:23:47AM -0400, David McGlone wrote: [...] > I guess we can start a thread about how I didn't capitalize my last sentence. oh, upper-case letters are over-rated... From paulatgm at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 12:23:21 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:23:21 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen Message-ID: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> When an openoffice dialog box pops up, it goes to full screen when using compiz, but is normal size when compiz is shutoff. For example, using spreadsheet, try to copy and paste something over already existing cells, then popup opens warning about overwriting. This popup is full screen. I wonder if this is something that can be fixed by settings in compiz config, but didn't see anything obvious. Any ideas? regards From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 12:37:41 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:37:41 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS Message-ID: > Other than a few niggling little issues I think Linux IS ready for main > stream "Joe User". Things like DVD playing, MP3, Video...... All easily > "fixed" once the OS is installed, BUT "Joe User" expects all that > "right-out-of-the-box" as soon as he turns it on. In most cases these > things are taken care of in "boxed" releases because that's what your > paying for. Last time I installed windows it was a major pain in the butt! I had to install many upgrades and other downloads and drivers to get a working system. Each install also took a lot of time because of having to reboot over and over. And then you have to install all that other software like Office and stuff. Is this still true? Last install of Kubuntu took putting the disk in and answering a few questions as it booted and installed. Very fast and painless. Yes, I think this is true but it is also true that in many cases you don't need to pay MS. There are Linux based firms you could pay to do it for you. You can do this with Cononical starting at $250 or with Vista and friends for $275. (starting at $112 for the Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit for System Builders [DVD) (whatever all that really means?) on Amazon.com. But then you need to at least buy at least MS Office Home $125 and Student 2007 Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007and Norton Antivirus 2008 $38 ( for it right ?)). I wonder which would give you more help faster with your problems and is less of a headache? Also what features you would get with this version of Vista is as clear as mud to me. I guess one last point to be made is that back when I was young and running Windows, no one I knew payed for any of their software and from what I hear today that is still commonly true. So I guess both systems are free as in beer for most Joe users. Douglas From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 12:42:53 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:42:53 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <20071006121937.GD19468@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> <20071006121937.GD19468@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> Message-ID: I really think the problem relates to y'all using the Querty keyboard. If you would just use the Dvorak keyboard, like I do, these problems would all go away! DEK PS I do use the keyboard but this is a joke. From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Oct 6 12:51:24 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:51:24 -0700 Subject: [Gutsy] kde-systemsettings Message-ID: <470784CC.5060105@dmiyu.org> Hello, I just upgraded one of my machines from to 7.10 using aptitude. It looks like everything came over ok. However, quite a few pieces of kde-systemsettings do not work. For example "Monitor & Display" does not load. It errors out with the following: Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfig.py", line 22, in import xorgconfig ImportError: No module named xorgconfig error: ***failed to import module This is not the only module that appears missing. I have used Adept to ensure the update was completed. It did add a few more packages that aptitude missed but none have fixed this problem. Does anyone have a clue as to what steps I can take to get the control panel functional? From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Oct 6 13:07:14 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:07:14 -0700 Subject: [Gutsy] kde-systemsettings In-Reply-To: <470784CC.5060105@dmiyu.org> References: <470784CC.5060105@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <47078882.40300@dmiyu.org> Steve Lamb wrote: > I just upgraded one of my machines from to 7.10 using aptitude. It looks > like everything came over ok. However, quite a few pieces of > kde-systemsettings do not work. For example "Monitor & Display" does not > load. It errors out with the following: To answer my own question. Somehow guidance-backends got pooched during the upgrade. At one point aptitude was complaining that it was trying to install a file owned by another package. I forced the issue. Had adept reinstall the package and it all works fine now. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I feel better now. > > Neil Winchurst > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Sat Oct 6 14:16:20 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:16:20 -0500 Subject: Katapult - Can't Start 'xterm' In-Reply-To: <87tzp6qv4q.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <87ve9m3ode.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> <87tzp6qv4q.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <470798B4.1040402@cern.ch> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Kenneth Jacker writes: > >> [ katapult-0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5] >> >> Shouldn't I be able to start an 'xterm' instance using Katapult? The >> executable *is* in /usr/bin/xterm, but typing in "xterm" doesn't >> start the application ... :-( >> >> I used "Configure Katapult..." and believe I set things up correctly. >> >> Can *you* run 'xterm' from Katapult? > > for some reason, katapult can only start programs that is in the menu > system (at least I can't start anything not in the menu) > I solved it creating the file: /usr/share/applications/xterm.desktop with the following content: [Desktop Entry] Name=Xterm Comment=Xterm Terminal Exec=xterm Icon=/usr/share/app-install/icons/gnome-terminal.png Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;System; Note that it won't work immediately since katapult will index it only at next login (or boot?) Cheers, G - -------------------------- Gianluca Cerminara Tel. FNAL +1 630 840 4273 Tel. CERN +41 (0)22 76 71519 Tel. TO +39 011 670 7374 From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 14:41:45 2007 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric Jackson) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:41:45 -0400 Subject: Iris Pen Scanner Message-ID: Has anyone gotten the Iris Pen Scanner to work in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? Eric Jackson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jgomezdans at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 14:42:54 2007 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:42:54 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91d218430710060742q6dabe380yd2a2828fca0d67ce@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On 10/6/07, Knapp wrote: > > A while back, we where talking about needs to use MS and not Linux. > Someone said storm traking was their reason. I found this today. > We have an operational system that tracks exteme downpours and stuff like that from precipitation radar images. The sytem is written in python, and blends in a number of different data sources (weather station data, radar estimates and satellite cloud cover). It works a treat. It works on Linux, and if we just had done some more thinking and hadn't hardcoded the filepaths, it would work in Win32 as well. In fact, the main problems with Linux are not in science or technology related areas (unless some particular package does not exist), but in office-related problems. I can't barely use OOo in my colleagues' Word documents, with plenty of graphs and tables, with formatting going titsup whenever I open the file and make a minor change. Regads, J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Every app that uses a kio slave for io can pretty much integrate. So you just need to write a financial kio slave to integrate your checkbook into konqueror :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 6 14:42:10 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:42:10 -0300 Subject: Just a comment References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <1682053.Tp8y9ZEqfu@cedar.serverforest.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > the difference between > > your (belonging to you) and > > you're (short for you are). > > As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. It's not its, it's its. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 6 14:45:48 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:45:48 -0300 Subject: Just a comment References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4020739.bJ62QpB2Wt@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 06 October 2007 4:11:16 am Neil Winchurst wrote: >> I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know >> the difference between >> >> your (belonging to you) and >> >> you're (short for you are). >> >> As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. > > I also forgot, I know you are referring to me in this comment: > > "sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5." > > but to me it's easier to type your than you're :-) I can cope with poor English on a mail list - I accept that we can only usually expect good English from those who aren't native English speakers, and typos are always going to happen, anyway - but do you really have to _brag_ about your misspellings? -- derek From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 15:29:01 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:29:01 -0400 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710060829g31ecfd71s27cc2b33b133f12b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/6/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > the difference between > > your (belonging to you) and > > you're (short for you are). > > As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. > > Neil Winchurst You're post is well welcomed by me. I am also disgusted at the number of people that confuse these too words. Its also pitiful how many people confuse its and it's. ;) Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From bballdude1888 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 6 18:00:54 2007 From: bballdude1888 at yahoo.com (k h) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: downloading files question Message-ID: <673901.17106.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i am using a windows computer to download files from sourceforge.net, and i am new to Kubuntu. what extension should i download to put on a flash stick, then install on my Kubuntu? is it .dmg .bz2 .zip Thankh ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael McIntyre From bendart at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 18:53:41 2007 From: bendart at gmail.com (Ben Dart) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:53:41 -0400 Subject: downloading files question In-Reply-To: <673901.17106.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <673901.17106.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: .bz2 On 10/6/07, k h wrote: > > > i am using a windows computer to download files from sourceforge.net, and i > am new to Kubuntu. what extension should i download to put on a flash > stick, then install on my Kubuntu? > > is it > .dmg > .bz2 > .zip > Thankh > ________________________________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, > and more! > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From kassube at gmx.net Sat Oct 6 19:02:43 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:02:43 +0200 Subject: downloading files question In-Reply-To: <673901.17106.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <673901.17106.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710062102.43309.kassube@gmx.net> k h wrote: > i am using a windows computer to download files from sourceforge.net, > and i am new to Kubuntu. what extension should i download to put on a > flash stick, then install on my Kubuntu? > > is it > .dmg > .bz2 > .zip It should be .deb -- but not every .deb file works with Kubuntu. If the program you are looking for really is not available from the kubuntu site (via Adept / Synaptic or other package manager) you will probably have to compile the program you download from Sourceforge. Then it would be the file marked as system independant source which usually has the extension .tar.gz or .tgz or .tar.bz2. Furthermore you also need the build tools which are in the package build-essential and some dev-packages depending on the source files you want to compile. If you tell us which program you are looking for, we might be able to give you more specific information. Nils From bballdude1888 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 6 19:39:05 2007 From: bballdude1888 at yahoo.com (k h) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: downloading files question Message-ID: <80849.48003.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> here is the link of the program. it is a game i was interested in. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=123597&package_id=135738&release_id=513516 i appreciate your response. thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From labradley at mindspring.com Sat Oct 6 20:14:35 2007 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:14:35 -0500 Subject: Help! Feisty will no longer start X or KDE. In-Reply-To: <4707641E.9050207@gmail.com> References: <4706AF7A.1030602@mindspring.com> <200710052008.07326.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710052037.01054.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710052115.10167.david.mcglone@att.net> <47070A5D.1010206@mindspring.com> <4707641E.9050207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4707ECAB.5040204@mindspring.com> Stew Schneider wrote: > Larry Alkoff wrote: >> I have had other problems with reboots stalling unless I do a complete >> power-down shutdown. If the problem doesn't get solved I'll just wait >> and do a complete virgin install of Gutsy when it comes out. > I wasn't paying attention earlier in the thread, but that rang a bell. > Is this perhaps a Dell? Some Dells had a bios problem causing reboots to > stall unless preceded by a complete power down. > > stew > > Hello Stew. Not a Dell - just a Intel Core II duo built up with 2 gig of ram and a lot of hard disk space. -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From kassube at gmx.net Sat Oct 6 20:38:04 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:38:04 +0200 Subject: downloading files question In-Reply-To: <80849.48003.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <80849.48003.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710062238.04393.kassube@gmx.net> k h wrote: > here is the link of the program. it is a game i was interested in. OK, you need file AssaultCube_v0.93.tar.bz2. It seems you don't need to compile anything because there are precompiled binaries included. Copy the file to your home directory. Then unpack the file with this command in a terminal: tar xfj AssaultCube_v0.93.tar.bz2 Nils From bach.michael at gmx.net Sat Oct 6 21:24:06 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:24:06 +0200 Subject: downloading files question In-Reply-To: <80849.48003.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <80849.48003.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4707FCF6.8060209@gmx.net> k h wrote: > here is the link of the program. it is a game i was interested in. > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=123597&package_id=135738&release_id=513516 > > Depending on which version of kubuntu you use, you can get a .deb file from here: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=AssaultCube Mike From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 22:01:31 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:01:31 -0400 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0710061501u249396f2k5f7e76493d9f11ca@mail.gmail.com> On 10/6/07, Knapp wrote:What you are missing is that most windows users do not install the os. They buy a box with os installed and load mostly standard software which consists of putting in a cd and having a screen come up and say standard install or custom. So they click standard and go. It is only when they get a virus or try to install non run of the mill software that they need to know anything so few bother learning. Its like a car put gas in when the needle says empty and change the oil at quick lube every 3000 miles otherwise just turn the key and go. They are not interested on learning any more than they wish to learn there care engines run on the otto cycle and what it means or that their radio use superhetrodyne circuitry. uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Oct 6 23:29:06 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:29:06 -0500 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> On 10/06/2007 Knapp wrote: > Last time I installed windows it was a major pain in the butt! I had > to install many upgrades and other downloads and drivers to get a > working system. Each install also took a lot of time because of having > to reboot over and over. And then you have to install all that other > software like Office and stuff. Is this still true? > > Last install of Kubuntu took putting the disk in and answering a few > questions as it booted and installed. Very fast and painless. Well, lets see. A couple weeks ago when I installed Feisty on my laptop the first thing I did was force an update. Must have been seventy or eighty downloads. Then another batch to get the accessories, DVD support, Music support, video players, and other software I wanted installed. Say another twenty or so. I did the install late in the evening so I went to bed during the update process. I did the installs the next day. Figure a possible total of two to three hours time spent on the install. Yup! FAST and painless. Then another eight hours or so mucking about with the WIFI getting it to work. Don't get me wrong. I knew what I was getting into when I started the install. In fact I'm pleasantly surprised it only took about eight hours to get the WIFI working. From the horror stories I've read I was prepared for a lot more effort. I'm VERY happy with the install. > > Yes, I think this is true but it is also true that in many cases you > don't need to pay MS. There are Linux based firms you could pay to do > it for you. You can do this with Cononical starting at $250 or with > Vista and friends for $275. > > (starting at $112 for the Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit > for System Builders [DVD) (whatever all that really means?) on > Amazon.com. But then you need to at least buy at least MS Office Home > $125 and Student 2007 Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007and Norton > Antivirus 2008 $38 ( for it right ?)). > > I wonder which would give you more help faster with your problems and > is less of a headache? Also what features you would get with this > version of Vista is as clear as mud to me. > > I guess one last point to be made is that back when I was young and > running Windows, no one I knew payed for any of their software and > from what I hear today that is still commonly true. So I guess both > systems are free as in beer for most Joe users. > > Douglas Why anyone would fall for Vista is beyond me. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From david.mcglone at att.net Sun Oct 7 01:43:03 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:43:03 -0400 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <4020739.bJ62QpB2Wt@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> <4020739.bJ62QpB2Wt@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 06 October 2007 10:45:48 am Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Saturday 06 October 2007 4:11:16 am Neil Winchurst wrote: > >> I am really surprised how many people on this list don't seem to know > >> the difference between > >> > >> your (belonging to you) and > >> > >> you're (short for you are). > >> > >> As I said, just a comment. I feel better now. > > > > I also forgot, I know you are referring to me in this comment: > > > > "sounds like your running in runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5." > > > > but to me it's easier to type your than you're :-) > > I can cope with poor English on a mail list - I accept that we can only > usually expect good English from those who aren't native English speakers, > and typos are always going to happen, anyway - but do you really have to > _brag_ about your misspellings? Funny you mention this. If you would look closely, I wasn't bragging about my misspellings, I was bragging about my laziness :-) I commented in the first place to try to get some of you to see that this is a mailing list not a speech for the president. Now come on dude, lighten up. When I read the original post from Neil, I thought to myself "You got to be kidding me." And I laughed. I posted my comments because there are people on this list who do not speak English fluently and are probably feeling unwelcome now because of some childish comment. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From lists at ptfd.org Sun Oct 7 01:50:12 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:50:12 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710062150.12735.lists@ptfd.org> On Saturday 06 October 2007 08:23:21 am Paul S wrote: > When an openoffice dialog box pops up, it goes to full screen when using > compiz, but is normal size when compiz is shutoff. For example, using > spreadsheet, try to copy and paste something over already existing > cells, then popup opens warning about overwriting. This popup is full > screen. I wonder if this is something that can be fixed by settings in > compiz config, but didn't see anything obvious. Any ideas? > > regards Same here, It is not really ful screen, but too big for the scree. By clicking on the maximize full screen button it is back as expected. A little annoying but workable. Mike From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 06:54:12 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:54:12 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> References: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> Message-ID: > Well, lets see. A couple weeks ago when I installed Feisty on my laptop > the first thing I did was force an update. Must have been seventy or > eighty downloads. Then another batch to get the accessories, DVD > support, Music support, video players, and other software I wanted > installed. Say another twenty or so. I did the install late in the > evening so I went to bed during the update process. I did the installs > the next day. Figure a possible total of two to three hours time spent > on the install. Yup! FAST and painless. Spent installing or sleeping? I know that it can take a download some time to update but this is like saying you work on your clock 24/7. I would only count the time I spend looking at it or adjusting it. > Then another eight hours or so mucking about with the WIFI getting it to > work. As I have said before, if you buy the right hardware you could avoid this. I don't know what you get paid but if it is over $20 and hour surely it would be worth it to buy a good new WIFI that works with Linux and then work 8 hours at your job to pay for it. Or maybe it is build into your laptop that you bought before you got into Linux? One thing I would like to see is an install program that asks you all the questions at the beginning not one here and one there, throughout the install. I mean why wait until the end to ask about passwords and users and all that? Do it at the start and let me get on with my day. Douglas From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 06:55:21 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:55:21 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710060723.47313.david.mcglone@att.net> <4020739.bJ62QpB2Wt@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: snip > When I read the original post from Neil, I thought to myself "You got to be > kidding me." And I laughed. I posted my comments because there are people on > this list who do not speak English fluently and are probably feeling > unwelcome now because of some childish comment. > Well - I am born Swedish but live in an English-speaking country so I guess I am "OK" on the language side. However, I feel the original posting was out of line. Yes - it is an English mailing list. HOWEVER we are not all born English/British/American whatever and that should be take into account. My thumbs are up to those who do their best to decipher even the most cryptic postings written by obvious non-English speakers. Skål på er alla, Sinclair From G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be Sun Oct 7 07:01:58 2007 From: G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be (Guy Deleeuw) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:01:58 +0200 Subject: vserver Message-ID: <47088466.9020407@eurofer.be> Hello Why vserver are not in gutsy ? Guy From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Oct 7 10:33:59 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:33:59 +0200 Subject: vserver In-Reply-To: <47088466.9020407@eurofer.be> References: <47088466.9020407@eurofer.be> Message-ID: Guy Deleeuw wrote the following on 07.10.2007 09:01 > Hello > > Why vserver are not in gutsy ? > > Guy http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vmware&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xen&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kvm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all which one are you missing? bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From samp at arial-concept.com Sun Oct 7 13:02:41 2007 From: samp at arial-concept.com (Sam Przyswa) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:02:41 +0200 Subject: vserver In-Reply-To: References: <47088466.9020407@eurofer.be> Message-ID: <4708D8F1.4060408@arial-concept.com> Thilo Six a écrit : > Guy Deleeuw wrote the following on 07.10.2007 09:01 > > >> Hello >> >> Why vserver are not in gutsy ? >> >> Guy >> > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vmware&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xen&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kvm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > > which one are you missing? > I don't see any vserver kernel, the search: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=gutsy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=vserver&searchon=names Give only the util-vserver and vserver-debiantools utilities not the kernel built with the vserver patch !? I posted on this list the question if we can run a Debian vserver kernel on Ubuntu but at this time no answer... Sam. -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sun Oct 7 14:12:23 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:12:23 +0200 Subject: hard disk spin down Message-ID: Most of the time spent on my laptop is reading. Often the laptop is not powered, so that i can hear the inner disk spinning down and restarting every dozen seconds, because many processes are running, while i am reading. My question is: is there a way to force processes not to read and write so often? Alternatively, is it safe disabling the disk spin down? My understanding is that time to spin down is set in /etc/default/acpi-support, where SPINDOWN_TIME=12 and controlled by the kde-guidance-powermanager package. Is that correct? Why so a short time (12s) is set as the default? Thank you -- Pol From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Oct 7 14:55:33 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:55:33 -0400 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: References: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200710071055.34244.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > Spent installing or sleeping? I know that it can take a download some > time to update but this is like saying you work on your clock 24/7. I > would only count the time I spend looking at it or adjusting it. I agree in principle, but when I go install Linux at someone else's house, I have to wander around in their back yard for an hour or so waiting on all that to finish, so it's time that does count. There's also no way to know when it's done unless you're sitting there, so if you wander too long, you might be wasting your own time. I guess if I did this frequently enough, it would be worth finding a better way, and there probably is one. Linuxdom is full of possibilities. Fortunately, I no longer install Linux for people at all, and I like that best of all. It just isn't worth it. Do somebody a favor, and they expect you to give them free service in perpetuity. > As I have said before, if you buy the right hardware you could avoid > this. Very true, though laptops are often problematic in this respect. In fact, I've yet to have a successful experience with a laptop. Wireless, sound, there's always something that doesn't work, and no practical way to fix it. I spent a small eternity on the Broadcom problem once, and was happy to purge Linux from that machine, and set it back to Windows, and somebody else's problem. -- D. Michael McIntyre From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 14:58:59 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:58:59 +0200 Subject: No UTF-8 in Konqueror In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710050528n3627803fwfc7412a073dd938f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710030830s77c50ce8qa131fcb82791e966@mail.gmail.com> <4704634C.4080909@stdin.me.uk> <880dece00710040853t3fbc787ej3544da8ffd8ccaed@mail.gmail.com> <9bed467e0710050528n3627803fwfc7412a073dd938f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710070758i40be83b3j9d1ba68047c26faa@mail.gmail.com> On 05/10/2007, Andrew Jarrett wrote: > > On 10/4/07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > On 04/10/2007, Terence Simpson wrote: > > > Not sure why that is, I always tend to use sftp:// rather than fish://. > > > fish:// is a bit of a hack for older ssh systems that don't have sftp > > > support and all modern openssh systems do, see if it happens with that. > > > > > > > Thanks, Terence. I installed ProFTP and tried. I get the exact same > > result: same gibberish. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > Not sure if this is your problem, but there are two different modes > for transferring files with ftp. There is binary mode and ASCII mode. > I am not certain if ssh and sftp have implemented file support for > utf-8, but it should be implemented. Maybe there is an "utf-8 mode" > just like there is binary mode and ASCII mode in ftp. > > HTH a little, > Andrew > No, it should be forwarded in the charset specified in locale. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Oct 7 15:08:18 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:08:18 -0500 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: References: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4708F662.5030601@swbell.net> Knapp wrote: >> Bill Walsh Wrote: >> Figure a possible total of two to three hours time spent >> on the install. Yup! FAST and painless. > > Spent installing or sleeping? I know that it can take a download some > time to update but this is like saying you work on your clock 24/7. I > would only count the time I spend looking at it or adjusting it. > Kind of guesstimating from the time I put in the CD and booted the computer till the initial upgrades finished [ I was asleep when it finished so.... ] then my install time for the addons I wanted the next day. (K)Ubuntu does update much faster than SuSE. I am able to "fix" most things [ DVD, MP3, etc. ] rather quickly because I have a pretty good idea what's needed. IF I was a complete newbie, as I was a few years ago, the time invested in just getting DVD to work can run into hours all by itself. >> Then another eight hours or so mucking about with the WIFI getting it to >> work. > > As I have said before, if you buy the right hardware you could avoid > this. I don't know what you get paid but if it is over $20 and hour Something well below that. > surely it would be worth it to buy a good new WIFI that works with > Linux and then work 8 hours at your job to pay for it. None of the cards I looked at told what chipset was in the card or mentioned Linux compatibility. Looking at the the websites for compatible cards was about useless because the stores don't seem to carry most of the specific cards and sometimes they have different chipsets in them within a given model. Best I could tell it was a crap shoot. Buy the card and see if it worked. > Or maybe it is > build into your laptop that you bought before you got into Linux? The card I have is an Atheros chipset. OK, did my home work before I started. Should setup and run with madwifi. Got it. No joy. OK, fall back position. Lets try ndiswrapper with the windows drivers. Well.....maybe not such a good idea after all. OK, back to my friend Google. Page after page of madwifi stuff, all totally confusing to my poor old brain [ lose brain cells as we get older you know - well probably not the real reason but we won't go there - that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it ]. Let's check with the guru's on the list for some new ideas. Hmmm, good stuff here. In the meantime I'm digging through all the deepest "Advanced" settings I can find in System and Control Panel for anything that has to do with networking. At this point I have to admit that I don't know WEP from wet, but I do know I have to put in this string and it's "shared" and stuff. Somewhere I found something and put in the information that was needed. Kind-o-sorta worked, but Knetworkmanager I wasn't happy with. Let's try Kwifimanager. I like that. CHA-CHING! It works like a charm. What actually made it work? I have no idea. What did I change? Well.....er.....um.......uh.........have to admit I'm not to sure. Could I do it again? Probably not right away. Somewhere in the deepest bowls of the settings something wasn't quite right. I made the necessary change and it worked. Some days I would much rather be lucky than good. > > One thing I would like to see is an install program that asks you all > the questions at the beginning not one here and one there, throughout > the install. I mean why wait until the end to ask about passwords and > users and all that? Do it at the start and let me get on with my day. > > Douglas > I've been using SuSE since 9.x but it wasn't until 10.0 that used it full time. During that time I tried Ubuntu a couple times but, for whatever reason, didn't care for it. I decided to try Kubuntu and liked it. But I was always a little leery of loading a laptop because of all the horror stories I read about getting things like wifi working. Then I found this laptop at the flea market [ I know, strange place to buy a laptop but poor folks have poor ways. ]. It's a nice little Gateway, Celeron 1GHz. Bigger hard drive and more memory from eBay and I was ready. I started the install late on a Friday night. Actually, I'm VERY pleased with how the install/setup went. It was, for the most part, painless and fast, at least much less pain and much faster than I expected it to be. I expected to spend a LOT more time pulling my hair out and gnashing my teeth. If someone came to me today and asked my opinion about switching to Linux, as I did many people several years ago, I would not hesitate to recommend that they try Kubuntu. In fact I would probably hand them a CD. There are some things I would like to see changed. Like Thunderbird is into version 2.x now but the latest I can find in the installer is 1.5.x. Also a few other bits of software I'm used to in SuSE but not available. The software is available in tar-ball but I'm a total klutz at CLI. I know, I know, the thing to do is work to make those things available as .deb's and give back to the community. But I don't have a clue how to get that done. IF there was a SIMPLE, words of one syllable or less, tutorial somewhere written for total dummies I might take a shot at it. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Oct 7 15:23:49 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:23:49 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Hi, Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. (http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/) * * * * * * There are many reasons for non english speakers to use english. Litterature (or traffic on a list) may be much more abundant in english as in most other language. I also found out it is more difficult for me to select good cue words for a Google search in french (my native language) as it is in english. The fact that many people have such a bad mastery of their native language (be it english or another tongue) is quite frightening, but it is generally not the main impediment for the understanding of the message. A list should put more energy correcting other points, i.e. meaningful subject (title), precise description of the problem and so on... Perry -- BOFH excuse #68: only available on a need to know basis From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Oct 7 15:55:16 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:55:16 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710061055.05866.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: David Fletcher wrote the following on 06.10.2007 11:55 <<-snip->> > I, too, am amazed and disappointed by the huge number of people who are > unskilled in the use of the English language, particularly the apostrophe. We could go on and continue our discussion in german. Promised i would make less errors in writing then. > Dave bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Oct 7 15:57:57 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:57:57 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux In-Reply-To: <91d218430710060742q6dabe380yd2a2828fca0d67ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430710060742q6dabe380yd2a2828fca0d67ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710071757.57768.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Saturday 06 October 2007 16:42, Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: (snip) > In fact, the main problems with Linux are not in science or technology > related areas (unless some particular package does not exist), but in > office-related problems. I can't barely use OOo in my colleagues' Word > documents, with plenty of graphs and tables, with formatting going titsup > whenever I open the file and make a minor change. Hi, A lot of things may disrupt formatting, for example if the same set of fonts isn't available on both machines. I cannot swear those problems will dissepear if you colleagues installed OOo on their machines. > Most computer users use Microsoft Word. That is unfortunate for them, since Word is proprietary software, denying its users the freedom to study, change, copy, and redistribute it. And because Microsoft changes the Word file format with each release, its users are locked into a system that compels them to buy each upgrade whether they want a change or not. They may even find, several years from now, that the Word documents they are writing this year can no longer be read with the version of Word they use then. (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html) Perry -- BOFH excuse #296: The hardware bus needs a new token From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Oct 7 16:15:42 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:15:42 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: Sylviane et Perry White wrote the following on 07.10.2007 17:23 > Hi, > > Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht > oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist > and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you > can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not > raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. > (http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/) i wonder how you wrote that. Is there a vim plugin or s.th.? Anyway this is new and quite interessting to me. Thanks. > > * * * * * * > > There are many reasons for non english speakers to use english. > Litterature (or traffic on a list) may be much more abundant in english as in > most other language. I also found out it is more difficult for me to select > good cue words for a Google search in french (my native language) as it is in > english. > > The fact that many people have such a bad mastery of their native language (be > it english or another tongue) is quite frightening, but it is generally not > the main impediment for the understanding of the message. A list should put > more energy correcting other points, i.e. meaningful subject (title), precise > description of the problem and so on... FACK > > Perry > bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:54:46 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:54:46 -0400 Subject: hard disk spin down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0710070954y10218ac6l6a0d777f156462e7@mail.gmail.com> As I am sure you are aware the short period to spin down is for power saving only. Making the hard drive run as long as you want is a trade between having your battery power last a shorter time. It will not hurt the machine. Other than disabling any unnecessary processes or perhaps having more memory to hold information I doubt there is much you can do on that side of the problem. Uriah On 10/7/07, pol wrote: > > Most of the time spent on my laptop is reading. Often the laptop is not > powered, so that i can hear the inner disk spinning down and restarting > every dozen seconds, because many processes are running, while i am > reading. > My question is: is there a way to force processes not to read and write so > often? > Alternatively, is it safe disabling the disk spin down? > > My understanding is that time to spin down is set > in /etc/default/acpi-support, where SPINDOWN_TIME=12 > and controlled by the kde-guidance-powermanager package. Is that correct? > Why so a short time (12s) is set as the default? > > > Thank you > -- > Pol > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Oct 7 17:04:31 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:04:31 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS and Just a comment In-Reply-To: <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710071904.31435.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Hi, Sorry, I did it again, answering before having read all the mail. On this list I must remember not to trust the threading. So my (just a) comment is that making subscribers on this list aware of threading is more important as checking their spelling. *To see what threading is :* I Kmail, under the "folder" tab, check the "thread messages" option. Then all replies of a message will be grouped together. This happens when the message is correctly replied to, by clicking the "reply" option. If someone answers by creating a new message and copying the subject the thread is broken. Whorse is the case where someone cliks the reply option and changes the subject, beliving he is just sending a new mail and not knowing he is messing up the threading. To see the (usually) invisible marks that Kmail sends, select View/Headers/All Headers or type [shift] H : you may spot a line starting with "In-Reply-To:" Mail threading is a very convenient feature and I advocate every one uses it for reading. In the legitimate case you prefer another sorting, please never break or mess up the threading for the rest of the list as I intentionnaly did this time :-) ( and perhaps Knapp too intentionnaly broke his thread with his reply "Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS", but I failed to understand why, since it is legitimate to modify a subject in a thread, often with a "solved" word or a related question) I hope I am not being too pedantic. Perry -- BOFH excuse #263: It's stuck in the Web From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 17:05:06 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:05:06 +0100 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." Message-ID: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." Waaaaa, it's the first time I've ever been told this by a linux system! /me throws toys out of pram ;-) From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 17:23:53 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:23:53 +0200 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: Heavy man... Maybe it's something X/KDE related? Still, seems extreme. \d From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 7 17:24:51 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:24:51 +0100 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> Peter Lewis wrote: > Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to complete > the update your computer needs to be restarted." > > Waaaaa, it's the first time I've ever been told this by a linux system! > > /me throws toys out of pram ;-) > > Kernel update? Just about the only thing that happens for on my system.... :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From 316097 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 17:30:44 2007 From: 316097 at gmail.com (Pierre Hansson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:30:44 +0200 Subject: Promise Ultra TX 133 Message-ID: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> I've just installed my Promise Ultra 133 TX2 with four Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320 GB drives into my box, no raid, but when I boot, it stops with something called initramfs. I've googled and searched various forums, but haven't come up with anything helpful. Can someone please guide me what to do to get these discs running in Kubuntu. Thanks in advance. / Pierre From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 17:37:44 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:37:44 +0100 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Sunday 07 October 2007 18:24:51 Wulfy wrote: > Peter Lewis wrote: > > Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to > > complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." > > Kernel update? Just about the only thing that happens for on my > system.... :@) Yeah, I think it was a kernel update (and presumably an Adept update, since previous kernel updates haven't generated this message. I'm not convinced that the restart is required in order to "complete the update" though, just to use it. This was just a bit of a blast from the past! :-) From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 17:41:10 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:41:10 +0100 Subject: IMAP resource functionality broken in gutsy? Message-ID: <200710071841.11603.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Has anyone else experienced IMAP resource functionality for the calendar, address book etc in KDE stop working after upgrading to gutsy? They're just showing up as regular folders and the calendar and addressbook are empty! :-( Cheers, Pete. From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 18:05:11 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:05:11 -0400 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/07, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 18:24:51 Wulfy wrote: > > Peter Lewis wrote: > > > Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to > > > complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." > > > > Kernel update? Just about the only thing that happens for on my > > system.... :@) > > Yeah, I think it was a kernel update (and presumably an Adept update, since > previous kernel updates haven't generated this message. > > I'm not convinced that the restart is required in order to "complete the > update" though, just to use it. > > This was just a bit of a blast from the past! > > :-) If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart the computer? When you do a kernel update, you are probably switching to a brand new build or version of the entire kernel. A lot of things have changed, so you need to restart the computer and boot into the new kernel to test things out. This is also for the safety of your data because the update might break your installation. Where's your fall-back option then? When you update the kernel it creates a new boot entry in GRUB so you can test it out and make sure everything works. I do not know of any operating system (past or present) that is able to make a kernel update on-the-fly. This would kind of be like a doctor performing heart surgery and only putting in pieces of the heart that needs to be fixed and then sewing it together rather than just doing a heart transplant. Also, Adept might tell you that you need to restart your computer if you update X/KDE, but you should just be able to restart the Xserver. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be Sun Oct 7 19:11:03 2007 From: G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be (Guy Deleeuw) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:11:03 +0200 Subject: vserver In-Reply-To: References: <47088466.9020407@eurofer.be> Message-ID: <47092F47.6030103@eurofer.be> Hello Thanks for your answer, but I cannot see the vserver kernel. I work with kubuntu gutsyact as a standard client. But I develop and test a lot of configurations. It's more easy for us if the same kernel pre builded by ubuntu contain the vserver patch Regards Guy Thilo Six a écrit : > Guy Deleeuw wrote the following on 07.10.2007 09:01 > > >> Hello >> >> Why vserver are not in gutsy ? >> >> Guy >> > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vmware&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=virtualbox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xen&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kvm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all > > which one are you missing? > > bye > From ged.byrom at ntlworld.com Sun Oct 7 19:20:56 2007 From: ged.byrom at ntlworld.com (ged) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:20:56 +0100 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <47093198.3020809@ntlworld.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Hi, > > Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht > oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist > and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you > can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not > raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. > (http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/) > > * * * * * * > > There are many reasons for non english speakers to use english. > Litterature (or traffic on a list) may be much more abundant in english as in > most other language. I also found out it is more difficult for me to select > good cue words for a Google search in french (my native language) as it is in > english. > > The fact that many people have such a bad mastery of their native language (be > it english or another tongue) is quite frightening, but it is generally not > the main impediment for the understanding of the message. A list should put > more energy correcting other points, i.e. meaningful subject (title), precise > description of the problem and so on... > > Perry > > Ged Byrom wrote: That's the best one so far. No problem reading it. What's it like for the dyslexics out there ? Ged From paulvarjak at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 19:58:13 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:58:13 +0200 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... Message-ID: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> Hello. My computer is hanging from time to time. It just freezes. Usually when I'm using e-mule and letting it working long time, but it's not a temperature problem because usually works well for days and nights and then, in any moment, it hangs. I've been reading /var/log/messages and /var/log/otherlogs without being able to find nothing strange. Can anyone tell me where else can I try to find the reason of the hangs? The fs's are not 100% or anything like that. I'm quite lost. Thanks. Paul. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 7 19:52:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:52:59 -0300 Subject: Just a comment References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <2293179.NoB6K5Ttfq@cedar.serverforest.com> Thilo Six wrote: > Sylviane et Perry White wrote the following on 07.10.2007 17:23 >> Hi, >> >> Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in >> waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht >> the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl >> mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn >> mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. >> (http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/) > > i wonder how you wrote that. Is there a vim plugin or s.th.? No, that's verbatim from the website. I recall seeing it some years ago. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 7 19:56:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:56:26 -0300 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9868255.hf4FIcLFFv@cedar.serverforest.com> Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On 10/7/07, Peter Lewis wrote: >> On Sunday 07 October 2007 18:24:51 Wulfy wrote: >> > Peter Lewis wrote: >> > > Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to >> > > complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." >> > >> > Kernel update? Just about the only thing that happens for on my >> > system.... :@) >> >> Yeah, I think it was a kernel update (and presumably an Adept update, >> since previous kernel updates haven't generated this message. >> >> I'm not convinced that the restart is required in order to "complete the >> update" though, just to use it. >> >> This was just a bit of a blast from the past! >> >> :-) > > If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart > the computer? When you do a kernel update, you are probably switching > to a brand new build or version of the entire kernel. A lot of things > have changed, so you need to restart the computer and boot into the > new kernel to test things out. This is also for the safety of your > data because the update might break your installation. Well, not really. _Until_ you reboot, you aren't using the new kernel, so nothing is going to break. In fact, rebooting is more likely to break it - but even Linux systems have to reboot occasionally. -- derek From list.dhooge at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 20:10:46 2007 From: list.dhooge at gmail.com (Michel D'HOOGE) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:10:46 +0200 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710072210.52483.list.dhooge@gmail.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:05:11 Andrew Jarrett wrote: > If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart > the computer? Yes, a kernel update needs the computer to be restarted. But most of the time, since you're working, you delay it up to the next reboot. The real problem occurs when you have a laptop and you hibernate. On next boot, the kernel binary that starts isn't the one that did the hibernate. And you lose everything as if you had just plainly switched off the PC instead of hibernating. So, as long as a kernel binary can't recognise that another binary did a hibernate on the swap partition, I think this reminder is truely welcome. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76424 -- Michel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 7 19:54:25 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:54:25 -0300 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <4499178.ZT1aTHk1Fz@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn Ingle wrote: > Heavy man... Maybe it's something X/KDE related? Still, seems extreme. > I believe the Adept update manager does that whenever a new kernel is installed. I don't know if it does it at any other time, but you've got to admit - there's no way to complete a kernel update without restarting :-) -- derek From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 20:21:54 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:21:54 +0100 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <200710072210.52483.list.dhooge@gmail.com> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> <200710072210.52483.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710072121.55766.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Sunday 07 October 2007 21:10:46 Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:05:11 Andrew Jarrett wrote: > > If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart > > the computer? > > Yes, a kernel update needs the computer to be restarted. But most of the > time, since you're working, you delay it up to the next reboot. > > The real problem occurs when you have a laptop and you hibernate. On next > boot, the kernel binary that starts isn't the one that did the hibernate. > And you lose everything as if you had just plainly switched off the PC > instead of hibernating. So, as long as a kernel binary can't recognise that > another binary did a hibernate on the swap partition, I think this reminder > is truely welcome. That's a really good point. And something which would never have occurred to me. I don't usually use hibernate though, and don't make a point of rebooting usually after a kernel upgrade, I just wait until the next time I power the machine up. Still, it's nice to have an explicit notice of when I'm doing a kernel upgrade! Pete. From ged.byrom at ntlworld.com Sun Oct 7 20:22:51 2007 From: ged.byrom at ntlworld.com (ged) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:22:51 +0100 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4709401B.1030509@ntlworld.com> Paul wrote: > Hello. > > My computer is hanging from time to time. It just freezes. Usually > when I'm using e-mule and letting it working long time, but it's not a > temperature problem because usually works well for days and nights and > then, in any moment, it hangs. > > I've been reading /var/log/messages and /var/log/otherlogs without > being able to find nothing strange. > > Can anyone tell me where else can I try to find the reason of the > hangs? The fs's are not 100% or anything like that. > > I'm quite lost. > > Thanks. > Paul. > > Ged Byrom wrote: I've just replaced the power supply for a friend whose computer was doing that. But I'm not an expert, it more or less packed up altogether in the end. I blew the dust out of it and one of the capacitors in the power supply was still furred up because it had leaked and was damp. It is fine now. Hope this helps Ged (I am not an expert) From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 20:25:06 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:25:06 +0200 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <4499178.ZT1aTHk1Fz@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <4499178.ZT1aTHk1Fz@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: > admit - there's no way to complete a kernel update without restarting :-) True. I guess I'm used to not restaring and I just leave it for as long as I can. The other thing is I usually dread new kernels because I haven't found a sure-fire way to get my nvidia drivers to keep pace with it and it usually means some xorg.cong fiddling back to 'nv' for a while. /d From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Sun Oct 7 20:26:51 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent Asorne) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:26:51 +0200 Subject: Upgrading my motherboard & processor In-Reply-To: <200709301526.41465.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> References: <200709231841.11543.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <200709270555.27415.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200709301526.41465.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: <200710072226.52782.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Hi! The reason why I didn't write to my topic is that I found out that the nVidia 250 chipset on the mainboard is not the graphics chipset (as I first thought), but the main chipset of the board. The description of the maionboard does not tell a single word about the graphics chipset... I'll google around to find out about that and tell you later! Laurent -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 20:33:05 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:33:05 +0100 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi Paul, On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:58:13 Paul wrote: > My computer is hanging from time to time. It just freezes. Usually > when I'm using e-mule and letting it working long time, but it's not a > temperature problem because usually works well for days and nights and > then, in any moment, it hangs. Does the machine freeze permanently, requiring a hard-reset? There's an open bug that affects my laptop, whereby every now and again the machine freezes completely for about 2 mins and then just starts going again... If not, perhaps there's a problem with either the memory or the hard disk, which is only realised when it's doing lots of work. You can run 'memcheck' from the grub menu IIRC to discount the RAM problem, though I've heard it's best to let the thing run a few times to be sure. HTH! Pete. From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 20:41:27 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:41:27 -0700 Subject: Promise Ultra TX 133 In-Reply-To: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> References: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710071341m7854b710m33798d7bfaf7cdc5@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/07, Pierre Hansson <316097 at gmail.com> wrote: > > I've just installed my Promise Ultra 133 TX2 with four Seagate Barracuda > 7200.10 320 GB drives into my box, no raid, but when I boot, it stops with > something called initramfs. > > I've googled and searched various forums, but haven't come up with > anything > helpful. > > Can someone please guide me what to do to get these discs running in > Kubuntu. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sounds like you'll have to make a custom kernel with device driver support for that device built in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 20:45:08 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0400 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <9868255.hf4FIcLFFv@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> <9868255.hf4FIcLFFv@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710071345u2def8f0dn99de96c32361fc4d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > Andrew Jarrett wrote: > > > On 10/7/07, Peter Lewis wrote: > >> On Sunday 07 October 2007 18:24:51 Wulfy wrote: > >> > Peter Lewis wrote: > >> > > Kubuntu just gave me an icon with this as the tooltip... "In order to > >> > > complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." > >> > > >> > Kernel update? Just about the only thing that happens for on my > >> > system.... :@) > >> > >> Yeah, I think it was a kernel update (and presumably an Adept update, > >> since previous kernel updates haven't generated this message. > >> > >> I'm not convinced that the restart is required in order to "complete the > >> update" though, just to use it. > >> > >> This was just a bit of a blast from the past! > >> > >> :-) > > > > If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart > > the computer? When you do a kernel update, you are probably switching > > to a brand new build or version of the entire kernel. A lot of things > > have changed, so you need to restart the computer and boot into the > > new kernel to test things out. This is also for the safety of your > > data because the update might break your installation. > > Well, not really. _Until_ you reboot, you aren't using the new kernel, so > nothing is going to break. In fact, rebooting is more likely to break it - > but even Linux systems have to reboot occasionally. > -- > derek I know that; that's what I'm saying. IANAE, but when you update any program, you need to reload it into memory in order to use the new version. After the kernel is updated, the computer needs to be restarted so the new kernel is loaded into memory. There is no way that one will be able to use the updated kernel until the computer is restarted. When I said that the "update" might break your system, I was referring to the complete process (including the restart). Of course downloading a new kernel version won't break your system. It's when the new kernel is used that problems may arise... Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From kassube at gmx.net Sun Oct 7 20:48:14 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:48:14 +0200 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> Peter Lewis wrote: > There's an > open bug that affects my laptop, whereby every now and again the > machine freezes completely for about 2 mins and then just starts going > again... Are you perhaps using skype when that happens? Nils From prlewis at letterboxes.org Sun Oct 7 20:53:33 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:53:33 +0100 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Sunday 07 October 2007 21:48:14 Nils Kassube wrote: > Peter Lewis wrote: > > There's an > > open bug that affects my laptop, whereby every now and again the > > machine freezes completely for about 2 mins and then just starts going > > again... > > Are you perhaps using skype when that happens? No... I can't find the link right now, but it's a bug in the hard drive controller driver module that was discussed on the LKML. Now I'm just waiting for the updated code to be integrated into ubuntu (it's more of a harmless annoyance than anything to warrant moving away from the ubuntu kernels). Pete. From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 21:01:52 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:01:52 -0700 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710071345u2def8f0dn99de96c32361fc4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> <9868255.hf4FIcLFFv@cedar.serverforest.com> <9bed467e0710071345u2def8f0dn99de96c32361fc4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710071401y5da31f60l888628e5dcb3579@mail.gmail.com> There was someone who actually installed a updated kernel without rebooting...basically it involved quitting and restarting all critical system processes one by one, a bit tedious...much easier to just reboot :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 7 21:19:21 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:19:21 +0100 Subject: Rebooting Message-ID: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> In a recent thread there was discussion about rebooting the computer after an upgrade. As it was a kernel upgrade, this was deemed necessary. My question is sort of related almost. When I reboot, a fsck is done every thirty mountings of partitions. I only reboot when I have a kernel upgrade, or the machine crashes too badly for me to sort out without a reboot. So the fsck-ing only happens rarely. How frequently *should* the partitions be fsck-ed? Is there a way to do it *without* having to reboot? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From grey at dmiyu.org Sun Oct 7 21:26:28 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:26:28 -0700 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> Accccck, Wulfy's here too! Wulfy wrote: > When I reboot, a fsck is done every thirty mountings of partitions. I > only reboot when I have a kernel upgrade, or the machine crashes too > badly for me to sort out without a reboot. So the fsck-ing only happens > rarely. How frequently *should* the partitions be fsck-ed? Is there a > way to do it *without* having to reboot? Well, strictly speaking if you can bring the machine back down to single user mode, yeah, you can do it without a reboot. However the easiest way to do that, presuming you have console access, is to reboot. You can also remount most of the partitions as read-only and fsck them then. However that involves bringing the machine almost all the way down. Again, presuming console access the easiest way to do that is to reboot. Mind you I'm not too familiar with any of the procedures so this is just my rough, off-the-cuff, familiar-in-theory-only explanation and I'm probably off-base at least once in there. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From grey at dmiyu.org Sun Oct 7 21:28:33 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:28:33 -0700 Subject: KMail & IMAP Message-ID: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> Hello, Anyone have advice on how to get KMail running with IMAP? I see that recently it has addressed my basic concerns so I tried giving it a whirl. However it seemed to get stuck in an endless loop of downloading messages from my inbox and then reuploading them. Not too bad except one of the messages had a 1Mb attachment. After several cycles KMail itself just crashed out. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gabrielvc at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 21:43:42 2007 From: gabrielvc at gmail.com (Gabriel) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:43:42 -0500 Subject: MakBook Keyboard Message-ID: I still need some help, guys. Does anybody knows whether the keyboard modifier section of kde is broken, or how to switch two modifiers (say control and win keys)? Thanks, > I have a MacBook core 2 duo, on which I am running Kubuntu. This laptops > come with just one control key, and two Apple (or win) keys, located at > both > sides of the space bar. I write in spanish, so I configured kbd, through > kcontrol, to allow me to switch between keyboard layouts. > > The problem is that I would like to switch the position of control and > Apple > keys, but it has been impossible: > > 1. xmodmap wont work, since kbd overrides the position of the modifier > keys > > 2. kcontrol section option "use mac modifiers" changes the behaviour of > the > shortcuts, but when I reboot the system the position of control and apple > goes back to the old one. > > 3. xkb options does not allow the switch, as far as I have digged into the > (very confusing) documentation of it. > > Please help me. 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URL: From 316097 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 21:46:31 2007 From: 316097 at gmail.com (Pierre Hansson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:46:31 +0200 Subject: Promise Ultra TX 133 In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710071341m7854b710m33798d7bfaf7cdc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710071341m7854b710m33798d7bfaf7cdc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710072346.33169.316097@gmail.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007 22:41:27 Hex Star wrote: > On 10/7/07, Pierre Hansson <316097 at gmail.com> wrote: > > I've just installed my Promise Ultra 133 TX2 with four Seagate Barracuda > > 7200.10 320 GB drives into my box, no raid, but when I boot, it stops > > with something called initramfs. > > > > I've googled and searched various forums, but haven't come up with > > anything > > helpful. > > > > Can someone please guide me what to do to get these discs running in > > Kubuntu. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Sounds like you'll have to make a custom kernel with device driver support > for that device built in Well, I don't know what I've done, rebooted a couple of times and suddenly it worked - I will return if it shows up again. Thanks anyway! / Pierre From karlok at fastmail.fm Sun Oct 7 22:09:47 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:09:47 -0700 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4709592B.1090005@fastmail.fm> Wulfy wrote: > When I reboot, a fsck is done every thirty mountings of partitions. I > only reboot when I have a kernel upgrade, or the machine crashes too > badly for me to sort out without a reboot. So the fsck-ing only happens > rarely. How frequently *should* the partitions be fsck-ed? Is there a > way to do it *without* having to reboot? > From the e2fsck man page: "Note that in general it is not safe to run e2fsck on mounted filesystems. The only exception is if the -n option is specified, and -c, -l, or -L options are not specified. However, even if it is safe to do so, the results printed by e2fsck are not valid if the filesystem is mounted." So the only way to fsck an ext3 root partition is during boot before filesystems are mounted, or from a different Linux such as a system rescue cd. Karl From yogich at sc2000.net Sun Oct 7 22:12:45 2007 From: yogich at sc2000.net (=?utf-8?B?QyBIYW1lbA==?=) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:12:45 +0000 Subject: Networking help requested Message-ID: <344369545-1191795151-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1313180276-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> It has been awhile... I need a very good how-to for networking at least 3 boxes with one of them accessing the internet & doing the IP fwding & masquerading. Also, will I need to roll my own kernel, or does the default work for sharing a connection? Thanks... -- ...CH From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 7 22:14:51 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:14:51 +0100 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> Steve Lamb wrote: > Accccck, Wulfy's here too! > Da Wulf is *everywhere*! >:@) > Wulfy wrote: > >> When I reboot, a fsck is done every thirty mountings of partitions. I >> only reboot when I have a kernel upgrade, or the machine crashes too >> badly for me to sort out without a reboot. So the fsck-ing only happens >> rarely. How frequently *should* the partitions be fsck-ed? Is there a >> way to do it *without* having to reboot? >> > > Well, strictly speaking if you can bring the machine back down to single > user mode, yeah, you can do it without a reboot. However the easiest way to > do that, presuming you have console access, is to reboot. You can also > remount most of the partitions as read-only and fsck them then. However that > involves bringing the machine almost all the way down. Again, presuming > console access the easiest way to do that is to reboot. > > Mind you I'm not too familiar with any of the procedures so this is just > my rough, off-the-cuff, familiar-in-theory-only explanation and I'm probably > off-base at least once in there. :) That's what I thought. I know that fsck-ing a live partition is death to the file system and I couldn't see any way to remount everything read only... So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 7 22:28:04 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:28:04 +0100 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <4709592B.1090005@fastmail.fm> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <4709592B.1090005@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <47095D74.8030600@tiscali.co.uk> Karl wrote: > From the e2fsck man page: > "Note that in general it is not safe to run e2fsck on mounted > filesystems. The only exception is if the -n option is specified, and > -c, -l, or -L options are not specified. However, even if it is safe to > do so, the results printed by e2fsck are not valid if the filesystem is > mounted." > > So the only way to fsck an ext3 root partition is during boot before > filesystems are mounted, or from a different Linux such as a system > rescue cd. > > Karl > > Thanks, Karl. Much as I thought. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From paulvarjak at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 22:30:50 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:30:50 +0200 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, thanks for your answers. The computer freezes completely requiring a hard reset, yes. And no, I'm not using skype when it happens, and also not when it doesn't happen (i don't use skype). I don't think it can be the power supply because I also have a small partition with mickeysoft winxp and it never hangs while using this os. This open bug... I don't know, maybe could be that. The computer is an AMD Athlon64 4200+, asus m2n-e motherboard, 2gb ram, 3 x 250 Gb Sata HDD and ati radeon x1600pro. Keep on reading you :) Thanks Paul. From grey at dmiyu.org Sun Oct 7 22:32:43 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:32:43 -0700 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <47095E8B.6000503@dmiyu.org> Wulfy wrote: > So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? Erm, to be honest I've never rebooted any of my machines for the expressed purpose of fscking the drives. Don't know if that has ever been a factor in any of my partition failures. Most of the time it was the partition table that was lost. That's in ~10 years of ext2/ext3 and maybe 2 of reiserfs. Hm, speaking of different file systems, maybe the recommendation (if any) differs depending on what file system you have on the partition? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 7 22:44:27 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:44:27 +0100 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47095E8B.6000503@dmiyu.org> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> <47095E8B.6000503@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <4709614B.5010504@tiscali.co.uk> Steve Lamb wrote: > Wulfy wrote: > >> So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? >> > > Erm, to be honest I've never rebooted any of my machines for the expressed > purpose of fscking the drives. Don't know if that has ever been a factor in > any of my partition failures. Most of the time it was the partition table > that was lost. That's in ~10 years of ext2/ext3 and maybe 2 of reiserfs. > > Hm, speaking of different file systems, maybe the recommendation (if any) > differs depending on what file system you have on the partition? I've only ever used ext3. I'm an "experienced" newbie, having only used Linux since Debian Sarge was their Testing distro... Thanks, Steve! :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Oct 8 00:11:42 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:11:42 -0400 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007, Wulfy wrote: > That's what I thought. I know that fsck-ing a live partition is death > to the file system and I couldn't see any way to remount everything read > only... There *is* a way. Something with -o remount ro or something, but I've sat down with man mount and played, and never quite hit on the magic words to actually get it to happen. The syntax is pretty obtuse, and the documentation not exactly enlightening. I've never been determined enough to plug away at the problem hard enough to solve it. > So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? I have no idea how often is recommended. I suggest you tweak the options to have the partitions fscked every mount, or every other mount or something, since you reboot so infrequently. man tune2fs for details. It has lots of suggested best practices right in the man page. Another thing you can do is shut down by hand, with the -F option, to force fsck. Something like $ shutdown now -F which sets a flag that causes a manual fsck on the next boot. -- D. Michael McIntyre From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 00:27:46 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:27:46 -0700 Subject: Networking help requested In-Reply-To: <344369545-1191795151-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1313180276-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <344369545-1191795151-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1313180276-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710071727rb11ffb2k7852a145cb5ee6f4@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/07, C Hamel wrote: > > It has been awhile... I need a very good how-to for networking at least 3 > boxes with one of them accessing the internet & doing the IP fwding & > masquerading. > > Also, will I need to roll my own kernel, or does the default work for > sharing a connection? > > > Here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Oct 8 00:27:46 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:27:46 +0100 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <47097982.2050809@tiscali.co.uk> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007, Wulfy wrote: > >> That's what I thought. I know that fsck-ing a live partition is death >> to the file system and I couldn't see any way to remount everything read >> only... >> > > There *is* a way. Something with -o remount ro or something, but I've sat > down with man mount and played, and never quite hit on the magic words to > actually get it to happen. The syntax is pretty obtuse, and the > documentation not exactly enlightening. I've never been determined enough to > plug away at the problem hard enough to solve it. > Aye. Seems like a lot of messing around and a lot slower than rebooting. >> So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? >> > > I have no idea how often is recommended. I suggest you tweak the options to > have the partitions fscked every mount, or every other mount or something, > since you reboot so infrequently. man tune2fs for details. It has lots of > suggested best practices right in the man page. > > Another thing you can do is shut down by hand, with the -F option, to force > fsck. Something like > > $ shutdown now -F > > which sets a flag that causes a manual fsck on the next boot. > Thanks for the pointers, Michael! I'll take a look at tune2fs... :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From yogich at sc2000.net Mon Oct 8 00:56:24 2007 From: yogich at sc2000.net (=?utf-8?B?QyBIYW1lbA==?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:56:24 +0000 Subject: Networking help requested Message-ID: <916313610-1191804970-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1808150744-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Looks as if that URL is exactly what I need. Thanks, a bunch. :) -- ...CH From johndecarlo at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 02:01:19 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:01:19 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <1701072.oCNlz7Scmr@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710051424.39395.david.mcglone@att.net> <3387128.2AWDrmfCjv@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710052026.44680.david.mcglone@att.net> <1701072.oCNlz7Scmr@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710071901w7c09d7fdo821b6b40d88b3f42@mail.gmail.com> Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search through menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There's also no way to know > when it's done unless you're sitting there, so if you wander too long, you > might be wasting your own time. I know a better way. Don't install the updates while you are standing there. Take notes (if you feel you need to) on all Feisty updates, in case there are any you are worried about, and just download those in person. The rest you can update overnight - just set a cron job before you leave. And if you did it even more frequently, you could build your own Feisty CD/DVD with the latest updates already on it. Not that hard, really. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would be forever in the position of hoping to talk as well as a native 1 year old. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy at jdli.net Mon Oct 8 02:29:44 2007 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:29:44 -0400 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0710071905t572824dfk16690648145a9748@mail.gmail.com> References: <47081A42.1080308@swbell.net> <200710071055.34244.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <3dde113c0710071905t572824dfk16690648145a9748@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191810584.7533.11.camel@dell-laptop-ubuntu> On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 22:05 -0400, John DeCarlo wrote: > On 10/7/07, D. Michael McIntyre > wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > > Spent installing or sleeping? I know that it can take a > download some > > time to update but this is like saying you work on your > clock 24/7. I > > would only count the time I spend looking at it or adjusting > it. > > I agree in principle, but when I go install Linux at someone > else's house, I > have to wander around in their back yard for an hour or so > waiting on all > that to finish, so it's time that does count. There's also no > way to know > when it's done unless you're sitting there, so if you wander > too long, you > might be wasting your own time. > > I know a better way. Don't install the updates while you are standing > there. > > Take notes (if you feel you need to) on all Feisty updates, in case > there are any you are worried about, and just download those in > person. > > The rest you can update overnight - just set a cron job before you > leave. > > And if you did it even more frequently, you could build your own > Feisty CD/DVD with the latest updates already on it. Not that hard, > really. > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own Very good advice. I remember, back in the day I still worked with it, MS just worked... Hee Hee... I mean you didn't have to do a darn thing and it made you eggs for breakfast. There were never any updates... Hee Hee.... Oh my those were the days... Nowadays, I feel like I want to beat myself up all day only using linux (mostly *buntu). Really, it stinks to be able to make a system do what I want it to. Maybe a little up front setup... Really, not as much as I see the MS users around me do when they set up their system. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 02:50:19 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:50:19 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0710071901w7c09d7fdo821b6b40d88b3f42@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <1701072.oCNlz7Scmr@cedar.serverforest.com> <3dde113c0710071901w7c09d7fdo821b6b40d88b3f42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 08 October 2007 10:01:19 am John DeCarlo wrote: > Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search through > menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Oct 8 03:29:39 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:29:39 -0400 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0710071905t572824dfk16690648145a9748@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710071055.34244.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <3dde113c0710071905t572824dfk16690648145a9748@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710072329.39894.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007, John DeCarlo wrote: > I know a better way. Don't install the updates while you are standing > there. I haven't done this in a good bit, but the last time I did this, it was something like: 1) install off CD 2) go to install desired user software 3) user software depends on newer versions of umpty packages 4) user has a miserable DSL connection that only barely qualifies as "broadband" 5) wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait 6) answer two questions 7) done That was whatever was before whatever was before Dapper, I think. My problem was that I wasn't doing it often enough to be able to benefit from putting together a better toolchain, but I was doing it often enough to get really annoyed at the bother. Especially when the one family I hooked up with a perfect setup, even gave them an entire COMPUTER, because the one they had was too out of date... I had everything perfect, with a custom theme they loved, based on their favorite sports team, the whole nine yards. One day the guy calls and asks how to retrieve his emails now that he has formatted his hard drive and installed Windows on the computer. In order to open some stupid malware email attachment his wife just couldn't live without. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!! So now my motto is if you're too stupid to install the damn thing for yourself, I really don't want to answer your questions anyway. Bah humbug. Let Linux be a geek OS. I'm a geek. I don't have a problem with that. Inviting stupid people to use Linux just leads to insane things like that stupid new file manager everybody is complaining about, or worse, the whole Mac school of design certain members of the Rosegarden project are trying to foist upon us, whereby we throw away 3/4 to 4/5 of our features, because having too many features is too confusing. Bah. I hate catering to stupid people. Which is to say anyone who isn't a geek like me. It's a failing, I admit it. I'm glad there are still people out there who possess patience, because I think I burned the last of mine up in 2005 or so. -- D. Michael McIntyre From yogich at sc2000.net Mon Oct 8 04:09:28 2007 From: yogich at sc2000.net (=?utf-8?B?QyBIYW1lbA==?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:09:28 +0000 Subject: First impressions of dolphin Message-ID: <461369392-1191816554-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2056406059-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> No tabs!? Why did they put it in the distro, then? -- ...CH From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 04:13:49 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:13:49 -0700 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <461369392-1191816554-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2056406059-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <461369392-1191816554-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2056406059-@bxe023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: On 10/7/07, C Hamel wrote: > No tabs!? Why did they put it in the distro, then? NO TABS??? That's un-KDE like! Okay, who let the Gnome Nautilus devs in on Dolphin? I see it now. Nautilus and Dolphin are both sea creatures. We should have made a new super-konqueror called "Konquistador!" -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From kassube at gmx.net Mon Oct 8 05:20:04 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:20:04 +0200 Subject: Rebooting In-Reply-To: <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710080720.04723.kassube@gmx.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > Another thing you can do is shut down by hand, with the -F option, to > force fsck. Something like > > $ shutdown now -F > > which sets a flag that causes a manual fsck on the next boot. That's what I thought as well, and I suggested it a few days ago. However, the -F flag of the shutdown command is not working with Feisty :( If you want to force fsck on reboot you could then use this command: sudo touch /forcefsck before you reboot. Nils From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 05:30:18 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:30:18 +0200 Subject: hard disk spin down In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0710070954y10218ac6l6a0d777f156462e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0710070954y10218ac6l6a0d777f156462e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I ran into these settings that effect HD reading and use. Maybe they would help?? They are supposed to make the Desktop more responsive. sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=1 sudo sysctl -w vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50 And there was a setting to make it boot this way to but I did not copy that down. Douglas From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 05:50:21 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:50:21 +0200 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS and Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710071904.31435.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071904.31435.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: > ( and perhaps Knapp too intentionnaly broke his thread with his > reply "Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS", but I failed to understand > why, since it is legitimate to modify a subject in a thread, often with a > "solved" word or a related question) > > Perry No, I did not break it intentionally but I did change the subject to more fit the topic. I did not know about this threading feature. I will have to watch for it more. I wonder if Gmail uses it? Or breaks it? Douglas From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 06:07:58 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:07:58 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <47093198.3020809@ntlworld.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <47093198.3020809@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: > > Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht > > oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist > > and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you > > can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not > > raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. > > (http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/) > > > > * * * * * * > That's the best one so far. No problem reading it. What's it like for > the dyslexics out there ? > > Ged Really this is very easy for me to read because that is how words always look to me and thus that is why spelling is so hard for me. I don't see the letters which make it hard to learn spelling. What has helped me to learn to spell the most is typing together with instant spell checkers. Douglas From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 06:14:06 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:14:06 +0200 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: > The fact that many people have such a bad mastery of their native language (be > it english or another tongue) is quite frightening, but it is generally not > the main impediment for the understanding of the message. A list should put > more energy correcting other points, i.e. meaningful subject (title), precise > description of the problem and so on... > > Perry IF you believe that everyone should know old English and it is a crime to make and use a new English then can you read and write like this? Or maybe I should have used Shakespeare? *Line* *Original* *Translation* oretmecgas æfter æþelum frægn: ...asked the warriors of their lineage: "Hwanon ferigeað ge fætte scyldas, "Whence do you carry ornate shields, græge syrcan ond grimhelmas, Grey mail-shirts and masked helms, 335 heresceafta heap? Ic eom Hroðgares A multitude of spears? I am Hrothgar 's ar ond ombiht. Ne seah ic elþeodige herald and officer. I have never seen, of foreigners, þus manige men modiglicran, So many men, of braver bearing, Beowulf in Old English from Wikipeada Languages change and evolve and mix. This is the nature of life. Nothing is static. All computer people should know this. 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Sinclair From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 08:15:32 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:15:32 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <3dde113c0710071901w7c09d7fdo821b6b40d88b3f42@mail.gmail.com> <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 03:50:19 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 10:01:19 am John DeCarlo wrote: > > Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search through > > menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. > > No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. Hmm... another annoyance I was just coming to terms with. Is this a design decision then, rather than just something that's not implemented yet? If so, why? Pete. From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 08:22:03 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:22:03 +0100 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710080922.05105.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Sunday 07 October 2007 23:30:50 Paul wrote: > This open bug... I don't know, maybe could be that. The computer is an > AMD Athlon64 4200+, asus m2n-e motherboard, 2gb ram, 3 x 250 Gb Sata > HDD and ati radeon x1600pro. Yeah, the bug I was referring to shouldn't freeze the machine permanently, just for a minute or so every now and again, and there shouldn't be any long term effects. So, if your machine isn't unfreezing, I doubt it's that. Did you try a memcheck? BTW, don't discount hardware problems because it doesn't seem to happen in Windows. Both systems will use the machine in quite different ways. I used to have a machines which worked fine all the time until I tried to compile all of KDE once, then I realised that it was dropping bits in the RAM, but most of the time I never used them (compiling all of KDE takes lots of time / memory / patience). Pete. From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 08:24:43 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:24:43 +0100 Subject: KMail & IMAP In-Reply-To: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <200710080924.43721.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi Steve, On Sunday 07 October 2007 22:28:33 Steve Lamb wrote: > Anyone have advice on how to get KMail running with IMAP? I see that > recently it has addressed my basic concerns so I tried giving it a whirl. > However it seemed to get stuck in an endless loop of downloading messages > from my inbox and then reuploading them. Not too bad except one of the > messages had a 1Mb attachment. After several cycles KMail itself just > crashed out. Are you using (standard) IMAP or "disconnected" IMAP? Pete. From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Oct 8 08:45:25 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:45:25 -0700 Subject: KMail & IMAP In-Reply-To: <200710080924.43721.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <200710080924.43721.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <4709EE25.9030608@dmiyu.org> Peter Lewis wrote: > Are you using (standard) IMAP or "disconnected" IMAP? I don't know. I wager I'd want to use standard since I am connected = and not roaming around disconnected. How would I check? --=20 Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? 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But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. > > > > No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. > > Hmm... another annoyance I was just coming to terms with. > > Is this a design decision then, rather than just something that's not > implemented yet? If so, why? This is a design decision. Dolphin has a "split view" mode which shows two views side by side. In my opinion this is a better solution for managing files than tabs. The reason is stated at dolphin's website[1]: "Dolphin is not intended to be a competitor to Konqueror: Konqueror acts as universal viewer being able to show HTML pages, text documents, directories and a lot more, whereas Dolphin focuses on being only a file manager." So if you don't like the concept just use konqueror. Both provide the same functionality in different ways. bernhard PS: You will love dolphin when you see the goodies dolphin brings in the life-cycle of KDE4. Even in KDE 4.0 dolphin is already a real eye-catcher. [1]: http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 09:14:19 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:14:19 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 09:53:14 Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 03:50:19 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > > No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. > > This is a design decision. Dolphin has a "split view" mode which shows two > views side by side. In my opinion this is a better solution for managing > files than tabs. > The reason is stated at dolphin's website[1]: > "Dolphin is not intended to be a competitor to Konqueror: Konqueror acts as > universal viewer being able to show HTML pages, text documents, directories > and a lot more, whereas Dolphin focuses on being only a file manager." > > So if you don't like the concept just use konqueror. Both provide the same > functionality in different ways. Hmm... this is the decision I think I may end up coming to. Either that, or else I have to change the way I've got used to managing files. IMO tabs for file browsing is one of the best features of konqueror, although yeah, the split view is quite nice too. But, I tend to have several tabs open at once, so I guess this won't transfer easily. I really don't get this idea of removing functionality from software and claiming that it improves usability. Surely this is only true if everyone uses it in the same way?!? Why isolate people? BTW, I agree that dolphin looks nice, and I like the panel thing on the right, but I don't get why this couldn't have just been implemented into konqueror, or else just isolate the file manager part of konqueror much as how kmail is with kontact. I'm just worried now though that all the dev time will go into dolphin and konqueror as a browser, but konqueror as a file manager will suffer. Of course, the parts technology means that some of it will transfer, but it's still a worry. konqueror's the best app I've ever used IMO, and this move is likely to kill it (or at least turn it into only a browser). :-( Pete PS. Sorry to be a downer, it's great to see so much effort going into KDE 4, at all levels, but well, hey, it's a community right, so I can state my case ;-) From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 09:19:18 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:19:18 +0100 Subject: KMail & IMAP In-Reply-To: <4709EE25.9030608@dmiyu.org> References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <200710080924.43721.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <4709EE25.9030608@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <200710081019.19501.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 09:45:25 Steve Lamb wrote: > Peter Lewis wrote: > > Are you using (standard) IMAP or "disconnected" IMAP? > > I don't know. I wager I'd want to use standard since I am connected = > and > not roaming around disconnected. How would I check? If you go into the accounts configuration screen (Settings->Configure Kmail->Accounts), it will say "cachedimap" if it's "disconnected". Personally, I've only ever used disconnected IMAP, since it handles the fact that it might not be continually connected to the IMAP server, and therefore keeps a local copy of the messages on the machine. Therefore, if your connection goes down, you still have access to your messages. For me, this is the real benefit of IMAP. It's not really to do with roaming. I used the (standard) IMAP resource once, but it didn't quite seem to work the way I expected (that was a while ago though). Disconnected IMAP on the other hand has worked well for years. AFAIK there isn't a way to switch an account from IMAP to disconnected IMAP, so you might have to remove the account and create a new one. When it asks you what type of server to use, select "disconnected IMAP" rather than just "IMAP". BTW, this is all from my own experiences and I'm not a kmail developer, so someone who is might be able to correct some of this. HTH! Pete. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Oct 8 09:39:08 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:39:08 -0500 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <4709FABC.5050203@swbell.net> On 10/08/2007 Knapp wrote: > Languages change and evolve and mix. This is the nature of life. > Nothing is static. All computer people should know this. LOL > Douglas The only universal constant is change towards entropy. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Oct 8 09:56:58 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 05:56:58 -0400 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Monday 08 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > This is the nature of life. Nothing is static. All computer people should > know this. LOL Not true. I have several binaries from third-party sources that are statically linked. Then there's static electricity. Lots of things in life are static! -- D. Michael McIntyre From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 10:05:19 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:05:19 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710081805.20123.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 08 October 2007 5:14:19 pm Peter Lewis wrote: > Hmm... this is the decision I think I may end up coming to. Either that, or > else I have to change the way I've got used to managing files. IMO tabs for > file browsing is one of the best features of konqueror, although yeah, the > split view is quite nice too. But, I tend to have several tabs open at > once, so I guess this won't transfer easily. Yeah. A file manager with tabs quickly made me fall in love with Konqueror. > I really don't get this idea of removing functionality from software and > claiming that it improves usability Dolphin never had tabs to begin with. Nothing was removed. > Surely this is only true if everyone uses it in the same way?!? Why isolate people? The fact is that not everybody uses or would like to use Konqueror the same way. In fact, quite a number of users feel isolated because they want something simpler, more robust and focused on file management than Konqueror. It was a major complaint for a long time actually. Dolphin was created because of that need, but initially as a 3rd-party application. KDE saw it and liked it and decided to adopt it and help develop it. > but I don't get why this couldn't have just been implemented into > konqueror, or else just isolate the file manager part of konqueror Because 1) Dolphin was started as a 3rd party application with different goals from Konqueror, by a different developer, outside of the main KDE project and 2) Konqueror doesn't exactly have a clean, tidy source code base. > much as how kmail is with kontact. the analogy/comparison doesn't really apply. KMail has always been a standalone app, never a part of any bigger app. Kontact isn't really something like Konqueror. It's just a house that glues together separate independent KDE PIM apps. > I'm just worried now though that all the dev time will go into dolphin and > konqueror as a browser, but konqueror as a file manager will suffer. Of > course, the parts technology means that some of it will transfer, but it's > still a worry. konqueror's the best app I've ever used IMO, and this move > is likely to kill it (or at least turn it into only a browser). We share the same worries... Hopefully, it won't happen... I hope. From infopipe at gmx.net Mon Oct 8 10:11:29 2007 From: infopipe at gmx.net (Bernhard Breinbauer) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:11:29 +0200 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710081211.29430.infopipe@gmx.net> On Monday 08 October 2007 wrote Peter Lewis: > On Monday 08 October 2007 09:53:14 Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: > > So if you don't like the concept just use konqueror. Both provide the > > same functionality in different ways. > > Hmm... this is the decision I think I may end up coming to. Either that, or > else I have to change the way I've got used to managing files. IMO tabs for > file browsing is one of the best features of konqueror, although yeah, the > split view is quite nice too. But, I tend to have several tabs open at > once, so I guess this won't transfer easily. Well, usually you move/copy files from one place to another. Split view fits exactly this use case. If there are other use cases, konqueror is the better tool. > I really don't get this idea of removing functionality from software and > claiming that it improves usability. Surely this is only true if everyone > uses it in the same way?!? Why isolate people? Yeah, removing functionality for the sake of usability is always a good topic to discuss and dispute :-) . But dolphin isn't a stripped down konqueror. It has been developed because its founder wasn't happy with konqueror. He decided to do something about it and started dolphin. > BTW, I agree that dolphin looks nice, and I like the panel thing on the > right, but I don't get why this couldn't have just been implemented into > konqueror, or else just isolate the file manager part of konqueror much as > how kmail is with kontact. > > I'm just worried now though that all the dev time will go into dolphin and > konqueror as a browser, but konqueror as a file manager will suffer. Of > course, the parts technology means that some of it will transfer, but it's > still a worry. konqueror's the best app I've ever used IMO, and this move > is likely to kill it (or at least turn it into only a browser). Konqueror didn't get much attention the last years, so no, the konqueror devs are not spending all of their time on dolphin because there are not really a lot of konqueror devs around :-) And you are right about the possible technology exchange, konqueror in KDE4 already uses the dolphin kpart, although I don't know how usable it is ATM. I don't think dolphin will kill konqueror. If konqueror (as file manager) really dies, then the reason lies a few years back when dev time spent on konqueror dropped. As I see it, konqueror requires a fundamental overhaul, because it has its own share of problems. But as long as no one steps up to do it, I'm glad dolphin is around. bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From paulvarjak at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 11:06:02 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:06:02 +0200 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <200710080922.05105.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> <200710080922.05105.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710080406r4fc90e58p9ecf95152d195bbd@mail.gmail.com> Ok I will let it doing a memtest tonight... thanks. Paul. On 10/8/07, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 23:30:50 Paul wrote: > > This open bug... I don't know, maybe could be that. The computer is an > > AMD Athlon64 4200+, asus m2n-e motherboard, 2gb ram, 3 x 250 Gb Sata > > HDD and ati radeon x1600pro. > > Yeah, the bug I was referring to shouldn't freeze the machine permanently, > just for a minute or so every now and again, and there shouldn't be any long > term effects. So, if your machine isn't unfreezing, I doubt it's that. > > Did you try a memcheck? > > BTW, don't discount hardware problems because it doesn't seem to happen in > Windows. Both systems will use the machine in quite different ways. I used to > have a machines which worked fine all the time until I tried to compile all > of KDE once, then I realised that it was dropping bits in the RAM, but most > of the time I never used them (compiling all of KDE takes lots of time / > memory / patience). > > Pete. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 11:40:25 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:40:25 +0200 Subject: bluetooth headache - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <4709E63A.1080108@gmail.com> References: <4709E63A.1080108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470A1729.2050805@gmail.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > I have just bought a bluetooth usb dongle and it seems to work OK - > however KDE complains about the "sdp server not running" so I can not > pair the devices. I can not find this sdp server anywhere despite > googling and trying some commands such as /usr/sbin/sdpd and so on. > > Any ideas welcome... Well I found it myself... the bluetooth service was disabled from start, slightly confounding but surely something I have done myself. Sinclair From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 03:40:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:40:02 -0300 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> <200710072210.52483.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1977467.u87Mk1ZXiR@cedar.serverforest.com> Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 20:05:11 Andrew Jarrett wrote: >> If it was indeed a kernel update, then wouldn't you expect to restart >> the computer? > Yes, a kernel update needs the computer to be restarted. But most of the > time, since you're working, you delay it up to the next reboot. > > The real problem occurs when you have a laptop and you hibernate. On next > boot, the kernel binary that starts isn't the one that did the hibernate. That's not strictly true. If you're not paying attention, the next binary that starts isn't the one that hibernated. If you _are_, you make sure you reboot with the old kernel, since both are still present, and grub has been modified to be able to boot both. What I do if I got a kernel along with an upgrade, and I'm not ready to reboot, is hibernate, _immediately_ restart and select the correct kernel while I still remember, then on next hibernate it will start with the correct one. -- derek From almilis at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 12:42:07 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:42:07 +0700 Subject: -N: How to return to the X11 display? Message-ID: <36135600710080542m519d1abfk78b3c420aca24a89@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I know when hitting F10, we can return with F7. But may I know how to return from N in kdm? It used to be a delay after logout; however does it still work? thank you, -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 12:54:27 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:54:27 -0500 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS and Just a comment In-Reply-To: References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710062143.03786.david.mcglone@att.net> <470882D9.2000805@gmail.com> <200710071904.31435.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <720b310e0710080554o5895287fv8db46e02f890fcdf@mail.gmail.com> > I wonder if Gmail uses it? Or breaks it? > Douglas Pretty sure Gmail uses it. The stacking effect you get from the browser is your thread. It just collapses emails you've read, and leaves new replies you haven't read visible until you've read and archived them. Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 12:58:39 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:58:39 -0500 Subject: Just a comment In-Reply-To: <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710071723.49513.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710080558y4f81a631ib379bdf9b20e0d4c@mail.gmail.com> > > This is the nature of life. Nothing is static. All computer people should > > know this. LOL > > Not true. I have several binaries from third-party sources that are > statically linked. Then there's static electricity. Lots of things in life > are static! > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > public STATIC void main(String[] args) {} // even java is static ! -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 12:49:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:49:35 -0300 Subject: "In order to complete the update your computer needs to be restarted." References: <200710071805.07710.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <47091663.8020907@tiscali.co.uk> <200710071837.45737.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9bed467e0710071105u792f17d3u290bcde8b525b3c@mail.gmail.com> <9868255.hf4FIcLFFv@cedar.serverforest.com> <9bed467e0710071345u2def8f0dn99de96c32361fc4d@mail.gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710071401y5da31f60l888628e5dcb3579@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1650264.ZjYylGkt1D@cedar.serverforest.com> Hex Star wrote: > There was someone who actually installed a updated kernel without > rebooting...basically it involved quitting and restarting all critical > system processes one by one, a bit tedious...much easier to just reboot :) I could do _that_ with "init 1","init 2" - but you still won't be running the new kernel. You'll have restarted everything else that matters but "uname -a" will show you running the old kernel and all insertable modules will come from /lib/modules/OLDIMAGE. I guess you could somehow even force the modules to be loaded from the new location - but that seems like a sure way to force a kernel panic :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 12:54:40 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:54:40 -0300 Subject: Rebooting References: <47094D59.3040605@tiscali.co.uk> <47094F04.2050300@dmiyu.org> <47095A5B.2070505@tiscali.co.uk> <200710072011.43010.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <47097982.2050809@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <2212954.cxTvv9huEV@cedar.serverforest.com> Wulfy wrote: > D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> On Sunday 07 October 2007, Wulfy wrote: >> >>> That's what I thought. I know that fsck-ing a live partition is death >>> to the file system and I couldn't see any way to remount everything read >>> only... >>> >> >> There *is* a way. Something with -o remount ro or something, but I've >> sat down with man mount and played, and never quite hit on the magic >> words to >> actually get it to happen. The syntax is pretty obtuse, and the >> documentation not exactly enlightening. I've never been determined >> enough to plug away at the problem hard enough to solve it. >> > Aye. Seems like a lot of messing around and a lot slower than rebooting. And it isn't really possible, anyway. You could remount /, /boot and /usr read-only without making it impossible to run the system, but you have to be able to write to /tmp, /home and /var. > >>> So. I need to reboot to fsck... how often? That's very much dependent on the filesystem. iirc, only ext2/ext3 actually have this "every n mounts" concept. >> > Thanks for the pointers, Michael! I'll take a look at tune2fs... :@) You want the -c option, which sets the number of reboots between fscks. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 12:59:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:59:54 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1559926.TiXrqS1zKq@cedar.serverforest.com> Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 wrote Peter Lewis: >> On Monday 08 October 2007 03:50:19 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: >> > On Monday 08 October 2007 10:01:19 am John DeCarlo wrote: >> > > Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search >> > > through >> > > menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. >> > >> > No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. >> >> Hmm... another annoyance I was just coming to terms with. >> >> Is this a design decision then, rather than just something that's not >> implemented yet? If so, why? > > This is a design decision. Dolphin has a "split view" mode which shows two > views side by side. In my opinion this is a better solution for managing > files than tabs. Ho hum. Konqueror already has that. It isn't enough when you're doing any serious development. > PS: You will love dolphin when you see the goodies dolphin brings in the > life-cycle of KDE4. Even in KDE 4.0 dolphin is already a real eye-catcher. More ho hum. It's missing all the goodies of konqueror. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 13:07:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:07:07 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> Peter Lewis wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 09:53:14 Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: >> >> So if you don't like the concept just use konqueror. Both provide the >> same functionality in different ways. > > Hmm... this is the decision I think I may end up coming to. Either that, > or else I have to change the way I've got used to managing files. IMO tabs > for file browsing is one of the best features of konqueror, although yeah, > the split view is quite nice too. But, I tend to have several tabs open at > once, so I guess this won't transfer easily. Yeah, me too. Konqueror with 5 http tabs, a split file manager/sftp tab, and one or two file manager tabs is pretty much normal. > > I really don't get this idea of removing functionality from software and > claiming that it improves usability. Surely this is only true if everyone > uses it in the same way?!? Why isolate people? I'm sure the idea is that some people want a simpler file manager, but imo that's easier handled by doing what they tried a release or two ago, where konqueror started with a simpler view. Of course, that wasn't handled well and a lot of upgraders suddenly found much reduced functionality! > BTW, I agree that dolphin looks nice, and I like the panel thing on the > right, but I don't get why this couldn't have just been implemented into > konqueror, or else just isolate the file manager part of konqueror much as > how kmail is with kontact. Both could be done - the file manager is just another kpart. I imagine it's even possible to make dolphin the konqueror file manager! > I'm just worried now though that all the dev time will go into dolphin and > konqueror as a browser, but konqueror as a file manager will suffer. Of > course, the parts technology means that some of it will transfer, but it's > still a worry. konqueror's the best app I've ever used IMO, and this move > is likely to kill it (or at least turn it into only a browser). I don't see that as likely. konqueror still has to be the web browser, and I'd be really surprised if dolphin isn't a kpart, so all functionality should be available to konqueror. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 12:56:11 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:56:11 -0300 Subject: KMail & IMAP References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Hello, > Anyone have advice on how to get KMail running with IMAP? I see that > recently it has addressed my basic concerns so I tried giving it a whirl. > However it seemed to get stuck in an endless loop of downloading messages > from > my inbox and then reuploading them. Not too bad except one of the > messages > had a 1Mb attachment. After several cycles KMail itself just crashed out. > It works flawlessly for me. Sounds like you have a circular filter defined (eg, subject matches "xxx", move to INBOX...) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 12:58:06 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:58:06 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <3dde113c0710071901w7c09d7fdo821b6b40d88b3f42@mail.gmail.com> <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <23859022.kPR1yxBi3y@cedar.serverforest.com> Peter Lewis wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 03:50:19 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: >> On Monday 08 October 2007 10:01:19 am John DeCarlo wrote: >> > Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search through >> > menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. >> >> No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. > > Hmm... another annoyance I was just coming to terms with. > > Is this a design decision then, rather than just something that's not > implemented yet? If so, why? I do recall Steve Ballmer saying that the customers don't want them :-) It seems like a huge step backwards to me. -- derek From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 10:44:14 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:44:14 +0200 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <200710062150.12735.lists@ptfd.org> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> <200710062150.12735.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 7/10/2007, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > Same here, It is not really ful screen, but too big for the scree. By > clicking on the maximize full screen button it is back as expected. A > little annoying but workable. I can't find any buttons... -- lanzen From brownstixzz at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 14:48:17 2007 From: brownstixzz at gmail.com (JD Brown) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:48:17 -0600 Subject: Promise Ultra TX 133 In-Reply-To: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> References: <200710071930.46109.316097@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/7/07, Pierre Hansson <316097 at gmail.com> wrote: > > I've just installed my Promise Ultra 133 TX2 with four Seagate Barracuda > 7200.10 320 GB drives into my box, no raid, but when I boot, it stops with > something called initramfs. > > I've googled and searched various forums, but haven't come up with > anything > helpful. > > Can someone please guide me what to do to get these discs running in > Kubuntu. > > Thanks in advance. > > / Pierre Pierre, The best thing to do is replace " initramfs-tools " for " yaird ", After you install Kubuntu. The reason why you are getting that error is because of the naming scheme the kernel developers decided to use on hard drive devices installed on your computer. I believe it started with the 2.6.20 series kernel; there on. I first dealt with this on Debian Etch, upgrading to a newer kernel with initramfs-tools installed and then it happened to me with the *_*Buntu's. I removed initramfs-tools and replaced it with Yaird. Here is an article on what to do to replace it. It was written for Debian but it still works. See Link: http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/waiting_for_root_file_system.html Hope it helps and Regards, -- JD. Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lamb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:01:50 -0400 Subject: KMail & IMAP In-Reply-To: <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071008160150.GA27058@dmiyu.org> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:56:11AM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > It works flawlessly for me. Sounds like you have a circular filter defined > (eg, subject matches "xxx", move to INBOX...) I just installed KMail and have no filters defined outside of the Exim filters on the server to sort mailing list mail. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 16:17:02 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:17:02 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 08 October 2007 9:07:07 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Yeah, me too. Konqueror with 5 http tabs, a split file manager/sftp tab, > and one or two file manager tabs is pretty much normal. Yep. Power user. Exactly what Konqueror is for. Not everyone does that tough. > I'm sure the idea is that some people want a simpler file manager, but imo > that's easier handled by doing what they tried a release or two ago, where > konqueror started with a simpler view. Of course, that wasn't handled well > and a lot of upgraders suddenly found much reduced functionality! Hm... you seem to be confusing Kubuntu's changes to KDE's defaults. In the course of KDE 3.5's lifetime, there was no big change to Konqueror at all. No removed menus, no hidden / folders. > Both could be done - the file manager is just another kpart. I imagine > it's even possible to make dolphin the konqueror file manager! > > I don't see that as likely. konqueror still has to be the web browser, and > I'd be really surprised if dolphin isn't a kpart, so all functionality > should be available to konqueror. It already is, and Konqueror uses it now. Actually there's no other choice at all. Konqueror uses the dolphin kpart for file management. But I'm not exactly happy with the way it's integrated right now... From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 16:32:32 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:32:32 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710081732.32411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 17:17, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > It already is, and Konqueror uses it now. Actually there's no other choice > at all. Konqueror uses the dolphin kpart for file management. But I'm not > exactly happy with the way it's integrated right now... So what's going to happen to the konqueror file management kpart? I quite like that (mainly for the mouse-over previews). From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:05:02 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:05:02 +0200 Subject: OO spreadsheet to postgresql Message-ID: Anyone know a way to get a open office spreadsheet into a PostgreSQL database? Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 17:08:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:08:18 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14736417.D6yyHvcspX@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 9:07:07 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> Yeah, me too. Konqueror with 5 http tabs, a split file manager/sftp tab, >> and one or two file manager tabs is pretty much normal. > > Yep. Power user. Exactly what Konqueror is for. Not everyone does that > tough. > Absolutely - I'm not anti-dolphin, just anti-dolphin as a default :-) >> I'm sure the idea is that some people want a simpler file manager, but >> imo that's easier handled by doing what they tried a release or two ago, >> where >> konqueror started with a simpler view. Of course, that wasn't handled >> well and a lot of upgraders suddenly found much reduced functionality! > > Hm... you seem to be confusing Kubuntu's changes to KDE's defaults. In the > course of KDE 3.5's lifetime, there was no big change to Konqueror at all. > No removed menus, no hidden / folders. I'd say _you_ seem to be confusing Kubuntu's changes with KDE's. This is the kubuntu list, so we're talking about the changes we're about to see in Kubuntu. It's reasonable to assume that anybody who's been on this list long enough saw that (kubuntu change) happen. It confused a lot of fairly long-time users. >> Both could be done - the file manager is just another kpart. I imagine >> it's even possible to make dolphin the konqueror file manager! >> >> I don't see that as likely. konqueror still has to be the web browser, >> and I'd be really surprised if dolphin isn't a kpart, so all >> functionality should be available to konqueror. > > It already is, and Konqueror uses it now. Actually there's no other choice > at all. Konqueror uses the dolphin kpart for file management. But I'm not > exactly happy with the way it's integrated right now... That's about what I expected. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 17:04:47 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:04:47 -0300 Subject: KMail & IMAP References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071008160150.GA27058@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <1442633.GDNuJpCoVO@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve C. Lamb wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:56:11AM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: >> It works flawlessly for me. Sounds like you have a circular filter >> defined (eg, subject matches "xxx", move to INBOX...) > > I just installed KMail and have no filters defined outside of the Exim > filters on the server to sort mailing list mail. > Spam checking? -- derek From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Oct 8 17:28:17 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081014.20681.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <1302238.flkPK80JzY@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 9:07:07 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> I'm sure the idea is that some people want a simpler file manager, but imo >> that's easier handled by doing what they tried a release or two ago, where >> konqueror started with a simpler view. Of course, that wasn't handled >> well and a lot of upgraders suddenly found much reduced functionality! > Hm... you seem to be confusing Kubuntu's changes to KDE's defaults. In the > course of KDE 3.5's lifetime, there was no big change to Konqueror at all. > No removed menus, no hidden / folders. No, he is not. He said that "a lot of upgraders suddenly found much reduced functionality!" That is an accurate statement. I was on 7.04 before and had Konqueror's powerful file manager at my fingertips. I upgraded to 7.10 and now I no longer have Konqueror's powerful file manager at my fingertips. The fact that it wasn't Konqueror that changed and that it is a new, dumbed-down, file manager does not change the fact that I, as an upgrader, suddenly found myself with much reduced functionality! So much so that I am pissed about it. I'd like a choice in the matter, thanks. I don't know if I do since 7.10 has been such a mess so far. My Laptop went from rock solid to highly unstable. I'm having a hell of a time ripping out the parts I don't need, parts I don't want and fighting random CPU loads and lockups that I might just re-install 7.04 and ride backports. I know it is a beta install but, ouch, this feels less like a beta and more like an alpha. -- Steve Lamb From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Oct 8 17:29:09 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: KMail & IMAP In-Reply-To: <1442633.GDNuJpCoVO@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071008160150.GA27058@dmiyu.org> <1442633.GDNuJpCoVO@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <59008.206.159.183.75.1191864549.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > Steve C. Lamb wrote: >> I just installed KMail and have no filters defined outside of the Exim >> filters on the server to sort mailing list mail. > Spam checking? I do have that turned on, yes. -- Steve Lamb From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:34:16 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:34:16 -0600 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470A6A18.3050808@gmail.com> Paul said the following at 10/07/2007 04:30 PM : > This open bug... I don't know, maybe could be that. The computer is an > AMD Athlon64 4200+, asus m2n-e motherboard, 2gb ram, 3 x 250 Gb Sata > HDD and ati radeon x1600pro. What version of Kubuntu? I don't suppose that this will be any comfort, but I get the same thing, and have been researching it for more than a year. A rather small number of people have reported this problem with dapper, although the affected systems seem to have no one thing in common; I have not checked whether people have reported a problem with later versions of *ubuntu. I ran for about a year with 64-bit Mdv 2006.0 without a problem, but when I switched to 64-bit dapper on the same hardware I started getting occasional freezes. Sometimes I go months without a problem; sometimes it happens more than once in a single day. I can find no pattern. My current "conclusion" is that it's some sort of problem with the dapper 64-bit kernel and my ASUS A8N-SLI Premium mobo. I did recently try one thing that some people reported as helpful: I tried the 'noapic' kernel boot parameter. Since doing that: 1. I have had no crashes while doing normal work 2. I have a hard crash every time I burn a CD (at the point where the burned CD is ejected) Doc From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:46:08 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:46:08 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081732.32411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710081732.32411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710090146.09163.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:32:32 am Peter Lewis wrote: > So what's going to happen to the konqueror file management kpart? I quite > like that (mainly for the mouse-over previews). The previews now happen in the Information panel at the side. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:49:17 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:49:17 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <14736417.D6yyHvcspX@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <14736417.D6yyHvcspX@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710090149.17337.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 1:08:18 am Derek Broughton wrote: > I'd say _you_ seem to be confusing Kubuntu's changes with KDE's. This is > the kubuntu list, so we're talking about the changes we're about to see in > Kubuntu. It's reasonable to assume that anybody who's been on this list > long enough saw that (kubuntu change) happen. It confused a lot of fairly > long-time users. And this is where the problem lies, imho, with putting D3lphin as the default in Kubuntu 7.10. There's going to be confusion. Are we talking about Dolphin, the main version that's only being developed on KDE 4 now? Or D3lphin the "forked" KDE 3 version which Kubuntu will install and set by default in Gutsy? This confusion alone is one big reason for me not to favor configuring D3lphin to be the default. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:52:16 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:52:16 +0800 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 1:28:17 am Steve Lamb wrote: > No, he is not. He said that "a lot of upgraders suddenly found much > reduced functionality!" That is an accurate statement. I was on 7.04 > before and had Konqueror's powerful file manager at my fingertips. I > upgraded to 7.10 and now I no longer have Konqueror's powerful file > manager at my fingertips. The fact that it wasn't Konqueror that > changed and that it is a new, dumbed-down, file manager does not change > the fact that I, as an upgrader, suddenly found myself with much reduced > functionality! So much so that I am pissed about it. Ok, deep breathes. Konqueror's powerful file manager is still at your finger tips. Nothing was removed. D3lphin is just installed and configured to be the defualt file manager. You can easily switch from D3lphin to Konqueror. > I'd like a choice in the matter, thanks. I don't know if I do since > 7.10 has been such a mess so far. My Laptop went from rock solid to > highly unstable. I'm having a hell of a time ripping out the parts I > don't need, parts I don't want and fighting random CPU loads and lockups > that I might just re-install 7.04 and ride backports. I know it is a > beta install but, ouch, this feels less like a beta and more like an > alpha. Yeah there are some rough edges here and there. But none of them have to do with Dolphin at all. I'm guessing in this case, the culprit is Strigi. From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 18:02:28 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:02:28 +0200 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. Message-ID: Hello all, my DVD is saying that disked burned on windows are blank. They are not. The player works fine with store move DVDs and it works fine with DVDs that it makes and my 2 other computers use the disks well too. Any ideas? I would really like to read this disk. It has my wedding pictures on it! Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy at jdli.net Mon Oct 8 18:03:32 2007 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:03:32 -0400 Subject: Storm tracking on Linux and verses MS In-Reply-To: <200710072329.39894.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710071055.34244.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <3dde113c0710071905t572824dfk16690648145a9748@mail.gmail.com> <200710072329.39894.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <1191866612.8345.6.camel@jeremy-desktop> On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 23:29 -0400, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007, John DeCarlo wrote: > > I know a better way. Don't install the updates while you are standing > > there. > > I haven't done this in a good bit, but the last time I did this, it was > something like: > > 1) install off CD > 2) go to install desired user software > 3) user software depends on newer versions of umpty packages > 4) user has a miserable DSL connection that only barely qualifies as > "broadband" > 5) wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait > 6) answer two questions > 7) done > > That was whatever was before whatever was before Dapper, I think. > > My problem was that I wasn't doing it often enough to be able to benefit from > putting together a better toolchain, but I was doing it often enough to get > really annoyed at the bother. > > Especially when the one family I hooked up with a perfect setup, even gave > them an entire COMPUTER, because the one they had was too out of date... I > had everything perfect, with a custom theme they loved, based on their > favorite sports team, the whole nine yards. One day the guy calls and asks > how to retrieve his emails now that he has formatted his hard drive and > installed Windows on the computer. In order to open some stupid malware > email attachment his wife just couldn't live without. > > ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!! > > So now my motto is if you're too stupid to install the damn thing for > yourself, I really don't want to answer your questions anyway. Bah humbug. > Let Linux be a geek OS. I'm a geek. I don't have a problem with that. > Inviting stupid people to use Linux just leads to insane things like that > stupid new file manager everybody is complaining about, or worse, the whole > Mac school of design certain members of the Rosegarden project are trying to > foist upon us, whereby we throw away 3/4 to 4/5 of our features, because > having too many features is too confusing. > > Bah. > > I hate catering to stupid people. Which is to say anyone who isn't a geek > like me. > > It's a failing, I admit it. > > I'm glad there are still people out there who possess patience, because I > think I burned the last of mine up in 2005 or so. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > My grandfather (89yo) was my hardest conversion ever. He just didn't understand anything. Why doesn't it look like outlook express.... Where did my pictures go.... Computers are dumb... But.... I talked to him last night after 2 months of only working with the kubuntu 7.04 version that I put him on and he won't go back. It took a little while but now he can even find his own answers on the forums. I agree, it is hard to work with stupid users, but at the same time, everyone was one. I know patience is sometimes hard to find but I think it is worth the time at the end of the day. From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Oct 8 19:06:37 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > Ok, deep breathes. Konqueror's powerful file manager is still at your finger > tips. Nothing was removed. D3lphin is just installed and configured to be > the defualt file manager. You can easily switch from D3lphin to Konqueror. Well, I could not find how to switch it. I checked "Default Applications" and there was no file management option. Admittedly I have not looked beyond that because the other problems have taken my time. > Yeah there are some rough edges here and there. But none of them have to do > with Dolphin at all. I'm guessing in this case, the culprit is Strigi. Nope. Bluetooth support would not shut down even though I turned it off in the runlevels tool. I have to rip it out. For some reason Thunderbird sits at 20% CPU while doing nothing. But not all the time so I'm not sure what's going on there. KMail is harfing on itself but that might not be a 7.10 issue as I poked at it at 7.04 and it was doing the same thing. ksim is broken. This morning while trying to figure out what was going on with Thunderbird my entire system locked hard. This was after I had ripped out Strigi. I've tried to kill the darn CPU Frequency switching. Although I am on a laptop it is docked and on constant power. Every CPUFreq change is accompanied with a 2-3 second pause. Every attempt to prevent it from starting has thus far failed. I have a feeling I'm going to have to track down whatever is doing that and forcibly rip it out as well. I have a sneaking suspicion that there are portions of hal which are causing issues as well. I tried looking for any place to configure what parts of hal start up. So far, no pointers at all. I know I don't want to rip it out so this is distressing. BTW by "rip out" I mean "sudo aptitude purge". I think the main problem I have is that not everything is configurable through KDE's system settings and poking at /etc/ is an exercise in frustration because of the decided lack of comments. -- Steve Lamb From mangg at yahoo.com Mon Oct 8 19:25:03 2007 From: mangg at yahoo.com (Joseph) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wireless remotes for Open Office on Kubuntu Message-ID: <448628.96552.qm@web56110.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations on wireless remotes for Kubuntu and Open Office. Do any of these work well? http://us.kensington.com/html/13361.html http://www.keyspan.com/products/homepage.2.productList.Remotes.spml http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/presenter/&cl=us,en Thanks in advance, J From bach.michael at gmx.net Mon Oct 8 19:27:41 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:27:41 +0200 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings Message-ID: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> Hello, A page that I found a while ago [1] and some recent discussion on another thread (first impressions of dolphin) made me actually bring up this question: How to disable kubuntu-default-settings entirely? Simply removing the package doesn't work because of dependencies. What is it exactly that this package changes? Mike [1] http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=307576 From lists at ptfd.org Mon Oct 8 19:29:46 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:29:46 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> <200710062150.12735.lists@ptfd.org> <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 06:44:14 am lanzen wrote: > On 7/10/2007, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > > Same here, It is not really ful screen, but too big for the scree. By > > clicking on the maximize full screen button it is back as expected. A > > little annoying but workable. > > I can't find any buttons... > Hmm.. I have the usual; maximize, minimize, quit buttons top left on the decorator bar.. If you dont than I dunno how to fix that... Mike From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 19:48:33 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:48:33 +0200 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710082148.34297.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 8/10/2007, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > Hmm.. I have the usual; maximize, minimize, quit buttons top left on the > decorator bar.. If you dont than I dunno how to fix that... Actually this is happening on kubuntu only. In Ubuntu it's working fine. I had the same thing in Feisty with Beryl. Unfortunately, much as I like kde, Ubuntu is having far less problem right now. -- lanzen From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 19:50:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:50:02 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2484605.22bfcgW4q2@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 1:28:17 am Steve Lamb wrote: >> No, he is not. He said that "a lot of upgraders suddenly found much >> reduced functionality!" That is an accurate statement. I was on 7.04 >> before and had Konqueror's powerful file manager at my fingertips. I >> upgraded to 7.10 and now I no longer have Konqueror's powerful file >> manager at my fingertips. The fact that it wasn't Konqueror that >> changed and that it is a new, dumbed-down, file manager does not change >> the fact that I, as an upgrader, suddenly found myself with much reduced >> functionality! So much so that I am pissed about it. > > Ok, deep breathes. Konqueror's powerful file manager is still at your > finger tips. Nothing was removed. D3lphin is just installed and configured > to be the defualt file manager. You can easily switch from D3lphin to > Konqueror. Yes, but this is the same (imo) error that happened when Konqueror was introduced with the "simplified" file browser interface. That's fine when you're making a new installation, but you should _never_ be "dumbing down" the interface for people who've already become used to the more complex interface. It just angers people like Steve. > Yeah there are some rough edges here and there. But none of them have to > do with Dolphin at all. I'm guessing in this case, the culprit is Strigi. Probably. Strigi sounds like a nightmare, but changing the way long-time users use something as basic as a file manager at the same time just adds to frustration levels. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 19:45:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:45:51 -0300 Subject: KMail & IMAP References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <30582266.tqfjjsvU4u@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071008160150.GA27058@dmiyu.org> <1442633.GDNuJpCoVO@cedar.serverforest.com> <59008.206.159.183.75.1191864549.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <8075251.eTLKKghOen@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steve C. Lamb wrote: >>> I just installed KMail and have no filters defined outside of the >>> Exim >>> filters on the server to sort mailing list mail. > >> Spam checking? > > I do have that turned on, yes. > That's just another filter, so I'd turn it off for now. If that works, you need to make sure that the "Spam handling" and "classify as spam" filters actually move the messages to some filter other than Inbox. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 20:02:13 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:02:13 -0300 Subject: First impressions of dolphin References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Juan Carlos Torres wrote: >> Ok, deep breathes. Konqueror's powerful file manager is still at your >> finger tips. Nothing was removed. D3lphin is just installed and >> configured to be the defualt file manager. You can easily switch from >> D3lphin to Konqueror. > > Well, I could not find how to switch it. I checked "Default > Applications" and there was no file management option. Admittedly I > have not looked beyond that because the other problems have taken my > time. > It's the Konqueror "File Associations" (why that _isn't_ with "Default Applications" in the System settings is something else I've always wondered). You need the inode/directory and inode/system_directory mime types. > Bluetooth support would not shut down even though I turned it > off in the runlevels tool. I have to rip it out. Not having ever had a bluetooth device, I've always wondered why I have to have the bluetooth stuff running, but it's _always_ been too difficult to turn it off to be worthwhile. > For some reason Thunderbird sits at 20% CPU while doing nothing. But > not all the time so I'm not sure what's going on there. > > KMail is harfing on itself but that might not be a 7.10 issue as I > poked at it at 7.04 and it was doing the same thing. I'd have to wonder why you'd need both KMail _and_ Thunderbird :-) > I've tried to kill the darn CPU Frequency switching. Although I am on > a > laptop it is docked and on constant power. Every CPUFreq change is > accompanied with a 2-3 second pause. Every attempt to prevent it from > starting has thus far failed. I have a feeling I'm going to have to > track down whatever is doing that and forcibly rip it out as well. While that sounds more like a bad implementation of ACPI on your laptop than a Kubuntu error, it should be easy enough to turn off. Unfortunately I can't tell you where (I don't have the ability on my old laptop) :-) > I have a sneaking suspicion that there are portions of hal which are > causing issues as well. I tried looking for any place to configure what > parts of hal start up. So far, no pointers at all. I know I don't want > to rip it out so this is distressing. You can't. Without hal you'll be dead in the water. > > BTW by "rip out" I mean "sudo aptitude purge". I think the main > problem > I have is that not everything is configurable through KDE's system > settings and poking at /etc/ is an exercise in frustration because of > the decided lack of comments. Yes - back to my comment about File Associations not being in system settings :-( -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 8 20:12:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:12:52 -0300 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings References: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Hello, > > A page that I found a while ago [1] and some recent discussion on > another thread (first impressions of dolphin) made me actually bring up > this question: > > How to disable kubuntu-default-settings entirely? > > Simply removing the package doesn't work because of dependencies. Sure it does. The only thing dependent on it is kubuntu-desktop (and something named ichthux-desktop, but that's definitely non-standard). kubuntu-desktop is purely a metapackage to force installation of things exactly like kubuntu-default-settings. > What is it exactly that this package changes? It installs some wallpaper, some themes, huge numbers of default config files and cursors. None of these should actually make any difference if you have already used the apps involved. ie, it doesn't change the configs under ~/.kde/. For the actual changes it tries to make to things you _might_ notice, see /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postinst. It certainly seems to me that it will only make those changes if you've not changed the defaults in the first place. -- derek From lists at ptfd.org Mon Oct 8 20:48:46 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:48:46 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710081648.46672.lists@ptfd.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 03:29:46 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 06:44:14 am lanzen wrote: > > On 7/10/2007, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > > > Same here, It is not really ful screen, but too big for the scree. By > > > clicking on the maximize full screen button it is back as expected. A > > > little annoying but workable. > > > > I can't find any buttons... > > Hmm.. I have the usual; maximize, minimize, quit buttons top left on the > decorator bar.. If you dont than I dunno how to fix that... > Wait a minute, I see what you mean, it is in writer and calc, but not all the time. I can duplicate it but it is not really consistant. It seems to be tied to certian files at least on my machine. I can open a spreadsheet and it is fine, then the next and it is full screen and the window borders are gone. I close it and the one I opened first opens ok again, the one that gives me the problem opens again with the sme result. Same issue in writer? Strange... Mike From grey at dmiyu.org Mon Oct 8 20:54:28 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Bluetooth support would not shut down even though I turned it >> off in the runlevels tool. I have to rip it out. > Not having ever had a bluetooth device, I've always wondered why I have to > have the bluetooth stuff running, but it's _always_ been too difficult to > turn it off to be worthwhile. Eh, ripping it out worked. It's hard for something to start up when it's not present on the filesystem to call. Though my preference would be for there to be a way to reliably turn it off. While I am capable of tracking this stuff down and executing it with extreme prejudice many other people might not be as capable. >> For some reason Thunderbird sits at 20% CPU while doing nothing. But >> not all the time so I'm not sure what's going on there. >> KMail is harfing on itself but that might not be a 7.10 issue as I >> poked at it at 7.04 and it was doing the same thing. > I'd have to wonder why you'd need both KMail _and_ Thunderbird :-) I currently use Thunderbird. I am attempting to test KMail. I quite often reevaluate certain classes of software to ensure that what I am using is the best fit for my needs. > While that sounds more like a bad implementation of ACPI on your laptop than > a Kubuntu error, it should be easy enough to turn off. Unfortunately I > can't tell you where (I don't have the ability on my old laptop) :-) It's a power manager system tray app that gets loaded with KDE. If I log in from the console I have no problems at all. Since I can't find a sensible place to stop it from autoloading I'm gonna just rip it out. It's kind of sad that this practice is starting on any Linux. Have we not learned from Windows how annoying it is to have things start without providing a convenient way to have them not automatically load? :( >> I have a sneaking suspicion that there are portions of hal which are >> causing issues as well. I tried looking for any place to configure what >> parts of hal start up. So far, no pointers at all. I know I don't want >> to rip it out so this is distressing. > You can't. Without hal you'll be dead in the water. Exactly. Not being able to find a quick way to configure it to not do something is the distressing part. For example I don't want it wasting 800kb watching my CD-ROM drive. I never use it on the laptop outside of a means to reinstall the OS. I'll un/mount it manually in the rare case it is used in another manner. -- Steve Lamb From bballdude1888 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 8 20:58:43 2007 From: bballdude1888 at yahoo.com (k h) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: wireless network compatability Message-ID: <947721.77777.qm@web35803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> if i were to download kubuntu 7.04, would i be able to use a wireless network? K H ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macariov at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 21:11:07 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:11:07 -0400 Subject: wireless network compatability In-Reply-To: <947721.77777.qm@web35803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <947721.77777.qm@web35803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1191877867.29505.39.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> n, 2007-10-08 at 13:58 -0700, k h wrote: > > if i were to download kubuntu 7.04, would i be able to use a wireless > network? > > K H > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > Yahoo! FareChase. Yes, Of course... So far I have used many WIFI devices with success. The hardest for me has been the Netgear MA111. Using the wlan drivers, I installed it and have grown fond of it. However, if you are looking for a Plug and Play experience use some sort of linksys or any ot the atheros based, I have had most luck with those, even if are not as fast as advertized. From paul at lemmons.name Mon Oct 8 21:23:00 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:23:00 -0700 Subject: wireless network compatability In-Reply-To: <947721.77777.qm@web35803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <947721.77777.qm@web35803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <470A9FB4.2070905@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: wireless network compatability From: k h To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 10/08/2007 01:58 PM > if i were to download kubuntu 7.04, would i be able to use a wireless > network? > > K H Hmmmm, I would say "Yes" because I do it on my laptop every day and it is 100% stable. However, the hardware you are using can vary how well it works. The best way to answer this is to download and burn the Live CD and then boot from it. You will have Kubuntu running without having to actually install it. Here you can test all of your hardware, printers, modems, internet connections, monitors, video, wireless connections, etc.. If all looks good, then you can commit it to your hard disk. -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 21:42:21 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:42:21 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <2484605.22bfcgW4q2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <2484605.22bfcgW4q2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710082242.22164.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 20:50:02 Derek Broughton wrote: > Probably. Strigi sounds like a nightmare, but changing the way long-time > users use something as basic as a file manager at the same time just adds > to frustration levels. Yep, I don't think that this is the best tactic to make kubuntu better for its users (though perhaps it will help to keep new ones). It strikes me (and a few others from the way this thread looks like it's been going) that gutsy is approaching "bloatware". It would be nice to think that there are devs who don't want this to happen. :-) From prlewis at letterboxes.org Mon Oct 8 21:43:57 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:43:57 +0100 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710090146.09163.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081732.32411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090146.09163.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710082243.57909.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Monday 08 October 2007 18:46:08 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:32:32 am Peter Lewis wrote: > > So what's going to happen to the konqueror file management kpart? I quite > > like that (mainly for the mouse-over previews). > > The previews now happen in the Information panel at the side. Hmm yeah, I suppose they do. Seems like an odd waste of screen real estate though, when the previous way of doing things was quite nice. Pete. From lists at ptfd.org Mon Oct 8 21:44:22 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:44:22 -0400 Subject: d3lphin issue Message-ID: <200710081744.22958.lists@ptfd.org> This is not a "bash dolphin rant" I like it so far and am still learning its atributes. The issue I have at this point is that if you use the "edit as root" option with it, or open as root then when you quit it it wrights the bookmarks.xml file as root, root. Then when you start it again and do some other stuff and quit, it errors with a cant wright to bookmarks.xml because it wrote the last one as root,root. Am I not using this "wright" !! Mike From bach.michael at gmx.net Mon Oct 8 21:50:59 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:50:59 +0200 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings In-Reply-To: <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470AA643.1010905@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> A page that I found a while ago [1] and some recent discussion on >> another thread (first impressions of dolphin) made me actually bring up >> this question: >> >> How to disable kubuntu-default-settings entirely? >> >> Simply removing the package doesn't work because of dependencies. > > Sure it does. The only thing dependent on it is kubuntu-desktop (and > something named ichthux-desktop, but that's definitely non-standard). > kubuntu-desktop is purely a metapackage to force installation of things > exactly like kubuntu-default-settings. So, but if I were to remove kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-default-settings I would end up with broken dependencies of other packages!? > >> What is it exactly that this package changes? > > It installs some wallpaper, some themes, huge numbers of default config > files and cursors. Ok. This is what the package description says as well. > None of these should actually make any difference if > you have already used the apps involved. ie, it doesn't change the configs > under ~/.kde/. But on a fresh user accout, ~/.kde/ is almost "empty" and gets filled with user data (eg. Kontact) or by modified settings of applications. However, the initial applications settings (some) are dictated by settings in /usr/share , under normal circumstances. > > For the actual changes it tries to make to things you _might_ notice, > see /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postinst. It certainly > seems to me that it will only make those changes if you've not changed the > defaults in the first place. And it does more: To get a grips of what this package does I downloaded it and browsed its content with midnight commander (mc handels deb packages transparently). It seems that the packages creates a tree of directories in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings in which it puts configuration files for a number of kde apps. Second, it writes a /etc/kderc which makes kde using a different default directory for application configurations: $ cat /etc/kderc [Directories] userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile [Directories-default] #prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/ prefixes=/usr/share/ This is my recently modified /etc/kderc. Of course, everything in ~/.kde still has priority. From johndecarlo at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 21:59:04 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:59:04 -0400 Subject: First impressions of dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081050.20636.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200710080915.33280.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710081053.18768.infopipe@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710081459v301ccca6h49a3a32c05ad5c2f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/8/07, Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: > > On Monday 08 October 2007 wrote Peter Lewis: > > On Monday 08 October 2007 03:50:19 Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > > > On Monday 08 October 2007 10:01:19 am John DeCarlo wrote: > > > > Does Dolphin have tabs? I couldn't find it in my quick search > through > > > > menus and help. But that doesn't mean they aren't there, lol. > > > > > > No. It absolutely doesn't have tabs. > > > > Hmm... another annoyance I was just coming to terms with. > > > > Is this a design decision then, rather than just something that's not > > implemented yet? If so, why? > > This is a design decision. Dolphin has a "split view" mode which shows two > views side by side. In my opinion this is a better solution for managing > files than tabs. > The reason is stated at dolphin's website[1]: > "Dolphin is not intended to be a competitor to Konqueror: Konqueror acts > as > universal viewer being able to show HTML pages, text documents, > directories > and a lot more, whereas Dolphin focuses on being only a file manager." > > This isn't a reason not to have tabs. Tabs are useful for people who would prefer to have one window open (with multiple tabs) instead of five windows open. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.mcglone at att.net Mon Oct 8 23:47:51 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:47:51 -0400 Subject: Just a comment (Something funny) In-Reply-To: References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710081947.51526.david.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 08 October 2007 11:19:21 am Knapp wrote: > > Then there's static electricity. Lots of things in life > > are static! > > -- > > D. Michael McIntyre > > So then, why does "static" electricity jump from place to place? This was a good one. But I think I've found something that is actually really static! Neil Winchurst. The One who got this thread started and became "static". I guess he's the type that likes to get something started then watch things transpire :-) Anyone else notice, he opened his mouth then went hiding in the cracks somewhere? LOL Where's that can of raid when you need it? ;-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 00:48:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:48:26 -0300 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Bluetooth support would not shut down even though I turned it >>> off in the runlevels tool. I have to rip it out. > >> Not having ever had a bluetooth device, I've always wondered why I have >> to have the bluetooth stuff running, but it's _always_ been too difficult >> to turn it off to be worthwhile. > > Eh, ripping it out worked. It would - but I did that once and at some later point it got reinstalled, so I just let it live :-) > It's hard for something to start up when > it's not present on the filesystem to call. Though my preference would > be for there to be a way to reliably turn it off. While I am capable of > tracking this stuff down and executing it with extreme prejudice many > other people might not be as capable. > >> While that sounds more like a bad implementation of ACPI on your laptop >> than >> a Kubuntu error, it should be easy enough to turn off. Unfortunately I >> can't tell you where (I don't have the ability on my old laptop) :-) > > It's a power manager system tray app that gets loaded with KDE. That's not the default power manager. kde-guidance-powermanager (or something like that) has no cpufreq controls. >>> I have a sneaking suspicion that there are portions of hal which are >>> causing issues as well. I tried looking for any place to configure what >>> parts of hal start up. So far, no pointers at all. I know I don't want >>> to rip it out so this is distressing. > >> You can't. Without hal you'll be dead in the water. > > Exactly. Not being able to find a quick way to configure it to not do > something is the distressing part. For example I don't want it wasting > 800kb watching my CD-ROM drive. afaik, hal doesn't watch _anything_. udev watches devices change, and it doesn't take udev 800k to do that for your cd-rom, and acts when they do. Hal keeps a record of the device database, and dbus passes the information. I'm pretty confident nothing is spending 800k watching your cd, but in any case you can't rip out any one part of that. You _can_ turn off the media notification daemons in KDE - but I rather doubt you can eliminate the overhead of watching the CD without turning off all USB hotplugging. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 00:57:13 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:57:13 -0300 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings References: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> <470AA643.1010905@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4808768.KSbL7ChNii@cedar.serverforest.com> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> A page that I found a while ago [1] and some recent discussion on >>> another thread (first impressions of dolphin) made me actually bring up >>> this question: >>> >>> How to disable kubuntu-default-settings entirely? >>> >>> Simply removing the package doesn't work because of dependencies. >> >> Sure it does. The only thing dependent on it is kubuntu-desktop (and >> something named ichthux-desktop, but that's definitely non-standard). >> kubuntu-desktop is purely a metapackage to force installation of things >> exactly like kubuntu-default-settings. > > So, but if I were to remove kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-default-settings > I would end up with broken dependencies of other packages!? No. You would however prevent Adept from doing a clean install when a new release is available (or so I understand - never having used Adept for such a purpose...). >>> What is it exactly that this package changes? >> >> It installs some wallpaper, some themes, huge numbers of default config >> files and cursors. > > Ok. This is what the package description says as well. > >> None of these should actually make any difference if >> you have already used the apps involved. ie, it doesn't change the >> configs under ~/.kde/. > > But on a fresh user accout, ~/.kde/ is almost "empty" and gets filled > with user data (eg. Kontact) or by modified settings of applications. Absolutely. If you were to create a new user with a kubuntu-default-settings from Dappper, then upgrade to Feisty and create another new user, probably the two user environments would look noticeably different. The user you've had since Hoary, though, wouldn't see a change (at least not due to this package). > However, the initial applications settings (some) are dictated by > settings in /usr/share , under normal circumstances. > > And it does more: To get a grips of what this package does I downloaded > it and browsed its content with midnight commander (mc handels deb > packages transparently). It seems that the packages creates a tree of > directories in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings in which it puts I said that... It isn't anything you'll ever notice. > configuration files for a number of kde apps. Second, it writes a > /etc/kderc which makes kde using a different default directory for > application configurations: > ... > This is my recently modified /etc/kderc. Of course, everything in ~/.kde > still has priority. Exactly. So where's the problem? -- derek From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 02:26:58 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:26:58 -0400 Subject: Remote Desktop Message-ID: <470AE6F2.4000305@adelphia.net> With thanks to Earl Violet for finding http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448&highlight=vnc for me, I tried it on the new box. I've done this on one other installation, without a hitch. On this latest box, everything went fine until testing time. From the local machine, vncviewer localhost:1 gives me a vnc authentication failure. From a Windows box, running TightVNC, entry of 192.168.1.10:1 lights the Connect button. Clicking the connect button prompts for password, but I'm then dumped for an authentication failure. That sounds like a password failure, so sudo mv /root/.vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd.sav sudo vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd (enter PASSWORD) Then, back on the desktop, I ran krfb, set the password at PASSWORD, and permitted uninvited connections. No good. I'm still dumped. Anybody else experienced this? Any suggestions? stew -- J. Stewart Schneider, J.D. Temporary Supply Community Presbyterian Church of Bellefonte http://CommunityPresbyterian.org The little church that could From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 02:58:46 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:58:46 -0400 Subject: Remote Desktop Message-ID: <470AEE66.5090203@gmail.com> With thanks to Earl Violet for finding http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448&highlight=vnc for me, I tried it on the new box. I've done this on one other installation, without a hitch. On this latest box, everything went fine until testing time. From the local machine, vncviewer localhost:1 gives me a vnc authentication failure. From a Windows box, running TightVNC, entry of 192.168.1.10:1 lights the Connect button. Clicking the connect button prompts for password, but I'm then dumped for an authentication failure. That sounds like a password failure, so sudo mv /root/.vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd.sav sudo vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd (enter PASSWORD) Then, back on the desktop, I ran krfb, set the password at PASSWORD, and permitted uninvited connections. No good. I'm still dumped. Anybody else experienced this? Any suggestions? stew From nolancheck at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 04:26:10 2007 From: nolancheck at hotmail.com (Nolan Check) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:26:10 -0700 Subject: I want a finer-grained volume control. Message-ID: I have volume control keys on my keyboard. I love 'em. I have music that was mastered with all kinds of different volume levels, so it's helpful to be able to easily adjust the volume to a comfortable level. But on Kubuntu, I don't like how each press of a volume key adjusts the volume by 10%. That gives me only 10 different volume levels to work with, and only 2 of them are usually good for me. On some pieces of music, I have to pull up the mixer window and adjust the volume with the mouse to get a comfortable level. So, all I want is a finer-grained volume control. I'd like the volume keys to adjust by 1% or 2% instead of 10%. Is there currently any way to adjust it? - Nolan Check From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Tue Oct 9 04:59:50 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:59:50 +0000 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU Message-ID: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with MAC addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine but can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, DHCP with MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other permutations. Bout ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search for this equipment configuration and could not come up with any solutions as to why I can not get internet over my wireless router. Of course Verizon isn't too quick to supply answers either. Does anyone have pointers? Larry From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Oct 9 05:20:13 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:20:13 -0700 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > That's not the default power manager. kde-guidance-powermanager (or > something like that) has no cpufreq controls. Not sure what it was. This time it didn't show up. But it did have frequency controls and it did have standard the KDE configuration screen.= :/ >> Exactly. Not being able to find a quick way to configure it to no= t do >> something is the distressing part. For example I don't want it wastin= g >> 800kb watching my CD-ROM drive. =20 >=20 > afaik, hal doesn't watch _anything_. udev watches devices change, and = it > doesn't take udev 800k to do that for your cd-rom, and acts when they d= o.=20 > Hal keeps a record of the device database, and dbus passes the informat= ion.=20 > I'm pretty confident nothing is spending 800k watching your cd, but in = any > case you can't rip out any one part of that. You _can_ turn off the me= dia > notification daemons in KDE - but I rather doubt you can eliminate the > overhead of watching the CD without turning off all USB hotplugging. Er, ps auwx says otherwise: 107 4746 0.0 0.4 3260 1188 ? S 19:03 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) hald-addon-storage, 1188Kb, polling /dev/scd0. That leads me to beli= eve it has something to do with hal, that it is 400k over what I thought it w= as, and it is watching the cd drive. ;) If all hal is doing is watching USB hotplugging I can rip that out. = Only USB port I use on this is for my mouse and that has worked for quite a lo= ng time prior to hal slipping onto my system. root 4448 0.0 0.3 3156 980 ? S 19:03 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq Another piece I'd like to remove. 980k to twiddle with my CPUFreq wh= ich is not wanted. In fact... 107 4449 0.0 0.3 2156 876 ? S 19:03 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket ...this doesn't need to be there since I'm not using any power, anoth= er 876Kb just wasted. 107 4451 0.0 0.3 2156 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event6 107 4452 0.0 0.3 2156 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event7 107 4453 0.0 0.3 2160 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event8 ...and 3 things polling for a keyboard which is hooked in via PS/2. = I'm sure all of these are great on modern hardware with memory to spare but o= n a ol' PIII-750 w/256Mb laptop that sits in a dock all day that's about 6Mb = of wasted memory. Ouch. --=20 Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+-----------------------------------------= ---- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I looked in Tools -> Spam Wizard and that seemed dead set on turning it on. I rooted around the configuration and account configuration and nothing jumped out at me to turn off spam checking. Ditto for virus checking. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 07:22:03 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:22:03 +0200 Subject: Crazy question Message-ID: Yo, There may already be, but is there a way to create "universal" links to certain directories? I was wondering the other day if I couldn't type "cd writing" from any other directory and have it take me to ~/projects/writing. That would be cool. I suppose I could write a script to take a param and cd to it, but I was wondering if I was missing something smarter. \d From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Tue Oct 9 07:39:13 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:39:13 +0100 Subject: Just a comment (Something funny) In-Reply-To: <200710081947.51526.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710081947.51526.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <20071009083913.8e95f595.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:47:51 -0400 David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 11:19:21 am Knapp wrote: > > > Then there's static electricity. Lots of things in life > > > are static! > > > -- > > > D. Michael McIntyre > > > > So then, why does "static" electricity jump from place to place? > > This was a good one. But I think I've found something that is actually really > static! Neil Winchurst. The One who got this thread started and > became "static". I guess he's the type that likes to get something started > then watch things transpire :-) > Absolutely right. I have found the replies and comments interesting. I accept that some of us on this LUG do not have English as their first language. To me that is a very good reason for those of us who do to make every effort to get it right. Anyway, I think that this thread is about worn out. Neil From kassube at gmx.net Tue Oct 9 07:44:01 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:44:01 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> Donn Ingle wrote: > There may already be, but is there a way to create "universal" links > to certain directories? I was wondering the other day if I couldn't > type "cd writing" from any other directory and have it take me to > ~/projects/writing. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html Search for CDPATH. Nils From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Oct 9 07:59:59 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:59:59 -0700 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <470B34FF.10701@dmiyu.org> Steve Lamb wrote: > root 4448 0.0 0.3 3156 980 ? S 19:03 0:00 > /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq > Another piece I'd like to remove. 980k to twiddle with my CPUFreq > which is not wanted. In fact... Just a quick follow up. I went digging to see if I could find a way to shut this down short of ripping out hal which I don't want to do. I was not amused to find this: {grey at mania:/usr/share/doc/hal} ls -la total 40 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-06 18:42 . drwxr-xr-x 1020 root root 36864 2007-10-08 23:28 .. c'mon, the most basic place to look for some sort of documentation outside of man (which was less than helpful) is /usr/share/doc! Why make the directory if nothing's going in it. :( On the other hand I did reclaim that 1.1Mb of a process staring at my CD-ROM drive. {grey at mania:/usr/share/doc/hal} sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/scd0 Polling for drive /dev/scd0 have been disabled. The fdi file written was /etc/hal/fdi/information/media-check-disable-storage_model_CD_224E.fdi -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? 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The only thing dependent on it is kubuntu-desktop (and >>> something named ichthux-desktop, but that's definitely non-standard). >>> kubuntu-desktop is purely a metapackage to force installation of things >>> exactly like kubuntu-default-settings. >> So, but if I were to remove kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-default-settings >> I would end up with broken dependencies of other packages!? > > No. You would however prevent Adept from doing a clean install when a new > release is available (or so I understand - never having used Adept for such > a purpose...). > >>>> What is it exactly that this package changes? >>> It installs some wallpaper, some themes, huge numbers of default config >>> files and cursors. >> Ok. This is what the package description says as well. >> >>> None of these should actually make any difference if >>> you have already used the apps involved. ie, it doesn't change the >>> configs under ~/.kde/. >> But on a fresh user accout, ~/.kde/ is almost "empty" and gets filled >> with user data (eg. Kontact) or by modified settings of applications. > > Absolutely. If you were to create a new user with a > kubuntu-default-settings from Dappper, then upgrade to Feisty and create > another new user, probably the two user environments would look noticeably > different. The user you've had since Hoary, though, wouldn't see a change > (at least not due to this package). That is exactly the point! Changes (style maybe, but not features) should be introduced/removed by kde, and not by kubuntu-default-settings. > >> However, the initial applications settings (some) are dictated by >> settings in /usr/share , under normal circumstances. >> >> And it does more: To get a grips of what this package does I downloaded >> it and browsed its content with midnight commander (mc handels deb >> packages transparently). It seems that the packages creates a tree of >> directories in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings in which it puts > > I said that... It isn't anything you'll ever notice. This holds, providing I never compare two user accounts with application settings from two different versions of kubuntu. (I'm not talking about the existence /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings, but rather the implications on application settings and style.) > >> configuration files for a number of kde apps. Second, it writes a >> /etc/kderc which makes kde using a different default directory for >> application configurations: >> > ... >> This is my recently modified /etc/kderc. Of course, everything in ~/.kde >> still has priority. > > Exactly. So where's the problem? The problem lies exactly there, you have mentioned it above already, that the kde environment to a user on kubuntu depends on the point (the version of kubuntu) on which an application configuration goes into ~/.kde by a user tweaking an application. This is probably most confusing for someone who keeps his ~/.kde over a few versions, gets used to style and most important: features, and after a fresh installation, well, style changes, but if features disappear, for me that is most annoying. I made some bad experiences, with one of them being that on my first kubuntu installation (6.10) with a fresh ~/.kde, I would not get image exif information shown in a file properties dialogue. I searched my head round for exif packages and exif configuration. No success, I think during that time I must have found the page I posted. After some playing around with the kubuntu-default settings I now have exif information in image file properties shown, also previews now show up in the properties. I would have probably never searched this feature I if I wouldn't know it exists from using earlier versions of kde on slackware. From jferrando at netplc.com Tue Oct 9 08:14:07 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:14:07 +0200 Subject: Remote Desktop In-Reply-To: <470AEE66.5090203@gmail.com> References: <470AEE66.5090203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470B384F.8040107@netplc.com> If you want to share your main desktop (:0): - install x11vnc and vnc-common - Create a password $ vncpasswd - Add the following line to the file /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup //usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc.log -rfbauth /home/jordi/.vnc/passwd/ (this one is for my user) Good luck. Stew Schneider escribió: > With thanks to Earl Violet for finding > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448&highlight=vnc for me, I > tried it on the new box. I've done this on one other installation, > without a hitch. On this latest box, everything went fine until testing > time. > > From the local machine, vncviewer localhost:1 gives me a vnc > authentication failure. From a Windows box, running TightVNC, entry of > 192.168.1.10:1 lights the Connect button. Clicking the connect button > prompts for password, but I'm then dumped for an authentication failure. > > That sounds like a password failure, so > > sudo mv /root/.vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd.sav > sudo vncpasswd /root/.vncpasswd > (enter PASSWORD) > > Then, back on the desktop, I ran krfb, set the password at PASSWORD, and > permitted uninvited connections. No good. I'm still dumped. > > Anybody else experienced this? Any suggestions? > > stew > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 08:22:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:22:44 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > Search for CDPATH. Cool, getting there. I added this to my bash_profile: CDPATH=$CDPATH:/home/donn/Projects But when I login to a konsole and try to "cd Projects" from (say) / it does not find the directory. What am I doing stupid :) \d From carlos at unplugd.com Tue Oct 9 08:45:15 2007 From: carlos at unplugd.com (Samps) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:15:15 +0930 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710091815.15619.carlos@unplugd.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 17:52, Donn Ingle wrote: > Cool, getting there. I added this to my bash_profile: > CDPATH=$CDPATH:/home/donn/Projects > But when I login to a konsole and try to "cd Projects" from (say) / it > does not find the directory. > What am I doing stupid :) If Projects is in your 'home' then try adding the CDPATH variable as just your home: export CDPATH=/home/donn cheers Samps From kassube at gmx.net Tue Oct 9 08:48:22 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:48:22 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710091048.22880.kassube@gmx.net> Donn Ingle wrote: > > Search for CDPATH. > > Cool, getting there. I added this to my bash_profile: > CDPATH=$CDPATH:/home/donn/Projects > But when I login to a konsole and try to "cd Projects" from (say) / it > does not find the directory. > What am I doing stupid :) The CDPATH is the directory where cd searches for the current parameter. You should make the obove line CDPATH=:/home/donn Please note that there is the empty directory as the first entry. Now if you are in / and enter "cd Projects" the cd command looks for Projects in the current directory, that would be /Projects. If that doesn't exist it will try /home/donn/Projects. Granted, it isn't exactly what you initially requested, but it is rather close IMHO. Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 08:58:12 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:58:12 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: <200710091048.22880.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> <200710091048.22880.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > Granted, it isn't exactly what you > initially requested, but it is rather close IMHO. Sweet - it's close enough. Thanks. \s From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 9 10:10:50 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:10:50 +0100 Subject: Just a comment (Something funny) In-Reply-To: <20071009083913.8e95f595.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071006091116.918f1f98.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710080556.58474.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710081947.51526.david.mcglone@att.net> <20071009083913.8e95f595.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <470B53AA.7000703@stdin.me.uk> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:47:51 -0400 > David McGlone wrote: > > >> On Monday 08 October 2007 11:19:21 am Knapp wrote: >> >>>> Then there's static electricity. Lots of things in life >>>> are static! >>>> -- >>>> D. Michael McIntyre >>>> >>> So then, why does "static" electricity jump from place to place? >>> >> This was a good one. But I think I've found something that is actually really >> static! Neil Winchurst. The One who got this thread started and >> became "static". I guess he's the type that likes to get something started >> then watch things transpire :-) >> >> > Absolutely right. I have found the replies and comments interesting. > > I accept that some of us on this LUG do not have English as their first > language. To me that is a very good reason for those of us who do to > make every effort to get it right. > > Anyway, I think that this thread is about worn out. > > Neil > > It was worn out the moment the first post was sent. It has nothing to do with Kubuntu, Linux or anything even remotely related to the topic of this mailing list. I suspect it was just an attempt to start some flaming and make the author feel big. Completely pointless and helps no one at all. Terence From paulatgm at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 11:34:19 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:34:19 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] compiz makes openoffice dialog boxes full screen In-Reply-To: <200710081648.46672.lists@ptfd.org> References: <47077E39.2010302@gmail.com> <200710081244.15385.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710081529.46830.lists@ptfd.org> <200710081648.46672.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <470B673B.2020207@gmail.com> Michael W. Holdeman said the following on 10/08/2007 04:48 PM: did you try using ccsm to change workarounds plugin .. uncheck Legacy Fullscreen Support. it works here HTH From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 9 11:43:53 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:43:53 -0400 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU In-Reply-To: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> References: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g > wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with > Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with MAC > addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine but > can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, DHCP with > MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other permutations. Bout > ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search for this equipment > configuration and could not come up with any solutions as to why I can not > get internet over my wireless router. Of course Verizon isn't too quick to > supply answers either. > > Does anyone have pointers? What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has it's own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it doesn't have the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the first computer. I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided for you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with and change it to match your router. Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can completely reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so and it should reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then connect with your router and set up your connection and finally add your computers to the router. This way your router is looking for the MAC of your router and not your computer. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 9 11:48:00 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:48:00 -0400 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU In-Reply-To: <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710090748.00447.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 7:43:53 am David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g > > wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with > > Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with > > MAC addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine > > but can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, > > DHCP with MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other > > permutations. Bout ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search > > for this equipment configuration and could not come up with any solutions > > as to why I can not get internet over my wireless router. Of course > > Verizon isn't too quick to supply answers either. > > > > Does anyone have pointers? > > What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone > workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first > workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has it's > own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it doesn't have > the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the first computer. > > I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided for > you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with and > change it to match your router. > > Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can completely > reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so and it should > reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then connect with your router > and set up your connection and finally add your computers to the router. > This way your router is looking for the MAC of your router and not your > computer. Just above, I meant to say: "your modem is looking for the MAC of your router and not your computer." -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From paulatgm at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:21:00 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:21:00 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] best way to start compiz in kubuntu? Message-ID: <470B722C.7010206@gmail.com> Has anyone found a good way to start compiz that works all the time using kubuntu? I've tried 4 and each has problems: 1. create /usr/bin/startcompiz with the following content: #!/bin/bash compiz --indirect-rendering & sleep 5 #emerald --replace || kwin --replace kde-window-decorator --replace || kwin --replace .. and put "export KDEWM=startcompiz" in ~/.profile This starts it on login, but sometimes, some kde settings seem lost. For example, sticky keys. I added them at the end, with the following: # restart sticky keys xkbset st -twokey -latchlock But, sometimes I also lose the Alt-F1 keyboard shortcut (it fails to popup the main menu). I haven't figured out how to fix this. 2. create startcompiz.sh and link it to a button on my panel .. click the buttion to activate it. This is the content: #!/bin/bash # check which window manager: getwm=`kdialog --radiolist "Select Desired Window Manager" 1 kwin off 2 compiz on` if [ $getwm = 1 ] ; then kwin --replace & elif [ $getwm = 2 ] ; then compiz --indirect-rendering --replace & sleep 2s # load window decorator kde-window-decorator --replace --blur=all --active-opacity=0.75 & else # arrive here if the "cancel" was selected true fi This works ok except starting it immediately after login results in the adept-updater icon being kicked out of the taskbar into it's own window. Sometimes, if I start other windows first, the updater will stay in the taskbar. This has the disadvantage of not starting compiz on login automatically, which is the issue I'd like to solve. 3. Creating the file ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh with the following content: #!/bin/bash compiz --indirect-rendering --replace & sleep 2s # load window decorator kde-window-decorator --replace --blur=all --active-opacity=0.75 & This has the problem of kicking the adept-updater icon off the taskbar into it's own window, and the kde-window-decorator sometimes crashes, leaving no borders. I've tried longer and shorted "sleep" pauses, but no help. 4. Saving the compiz in the default session. (I know this is the way it's supposed to be done in kde.) This has the same problem as the ~/.kde/Autostart method in that sometimes the kde-window-decorator crashes and the emerald decoration appears instead. Anyone find a 100% successful way? regards, From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:46:23 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:46:23 -0500 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU In-Reply-To: <200710090748.00447.david.mcglone@att.net> References: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710090748.00447.david.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0710090546p7b093d03t15a8a67e32dbc0fe@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 7:43:53 am David McGlone wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > > > > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > > > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g > > > wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with > > > Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with > > > MAC addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine > > > but can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, > > > DHCP with MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other > > > permutations. Bout ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search > > > for this equipment configuration and could not come up with any solutions > > > as to why I can not get internet over my wireless router. Of course > > > Verizon isn't too quick to supply answers either. > > > > > > Does anyone have pointers? > > > > What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone > > workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first > > workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has it's > > own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it doesn't have > > the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the first computer. > > > > I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided for > > you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with and > > change it to match your router. > > > > Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can completely > > reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so and it should > > reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then connect with your router > > and set up your connection and finally add your computers to the router. > > This way your router is looking for the MAC of your router and not your > > computer. > > Just above, I meant to say: "your modem is looking for the MAC of your router > and not your computer." > > -- > David M. > > If I received .01 cent for every person > that has to put in their .02 cents > I'd be rich! > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > What firmware are you using on the WRT54G and is a newer or older model ? IE You running DD-WRT or some variant ? -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:49:42 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:49:42 -0500 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops Message-ID: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other desktops. I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, and honestly I bet it can't be done. TIA Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:05:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:05:34 -0300 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <470B34FF.10701@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <1359265.IXHCnWMysK@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> root 4448 0.0 0.3 3156 980 ? S 19:03 0:00 >> /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq > >> Another piece I'd like to remove. 980k to twiddle with my CPUFreq >> which is not wanted. In fact... > > Just a quick follow up. I went digging to see if I could find a way > to > shut this down short of ripping out hal which I don't want to do. I was > not amused to find this: > > {grey at mania:/usr/share/doc/hal} ls -la > total 40 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-06 18:42 . > drwxr-xr-x 1020 root root 36864 2007-10-08 23:28 .. > > c'mon, the most basic place to look for some sort of documentation > outside > of man (which was less than helpful) is /usr/share/doc! Why make the > directory if nothing's going in it. :( _That_ is a problem that's common to far more than Ubuntu. /usr/share/doc doesn't contain much of use for most of the packages that are installed. They make the directory because policy dictates there must be one - but not that there must be something present in it. > On the other hand I did reclaim that 1.1Mb of a process staring at my > CD-ROM drive. Bet you didn't... :-) > {grey at mania:/usr/share/doc/hal} sudo hal-disable-polling --device > {/dev/scd0 > Polling for drive /dev/scd0 have been disabled. The fdi file written was > /etc/hal/fdi/information/media-check-disable-storage_model_CD_224E.fdi So it's no longer polling, but most of that memory is probably still being used by hald. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:00:42 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:00:42 -0300 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <2778333.IGyYDzlJgH@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Not sure what it was. This time it didn't show up. But it did have > frequency controls and it did have standard the KDE configuration screen.= > :/ > Yeah, I know there's a kde power applet that does that, but the _default_ one doesn't seem to. >> I'm pretty confident nothing is spending 800k watching your cd, but in = > any >> case you can't rip out any one part of that. You _can_ turn off the me= > dia >> notification daemons in KDE - but I rather doubt you can eliminate the >> overhead of watching the CD without turning off all USB hotplugging. > > Er, ps auwx says otherwise: > > 107 4746 0.0 0.4 3260 1188 ? S 19:03 0:00 > hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) > OK, you seem to be right that hal really _is_ watching, but if you just grep the hald lines, you'll see that hald-addon-storage is watching far more than /dev/scd0 with that 2100kb (on my system). You can't look at ps and add up the memory fields and come up with the number of bytes actually being used. If memory is shared by multiple processes it gets reported for every process. > If all hal is doing is watching USB hotplugging I can rip that out. = > Only > USB port I use on this is for my mouse and that has worked for quite a lo= > ng > time prior to hal slipping onto my system. Just try it - I think you'll find it won't work any more. Trust me, nothing works without hal now. > > Another piece I'd like to remove. 980k to twiddle with my CPUFreq > which is not wanted. In fact... _That_ part might be removable just in /etc/hal. Also, check that you don't have powernowd installed. Finally, "locate cpu/cpufreq", then lsmod and look for any of those modules. If you find one, rmmod it and blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/ and I'd be really surprised if you can still do cpufreq adjustments! (and I fully expect hald-addon-cpufreq only to be running if one of those modules is installed). > > 107 4449 0.0 0.3 2156 876 ? S 19:03 0:00 > hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket > > ...this doesn't need to be there since I'm not using any power, anoth= > er 876Kb just wasted. > First, it's not using 876kb, and second acpi is doing a whole lot more than power. Sorry, you likely can't live without it. It monitors temperature (turning on/off the fans), lids (on laptops), the power button (without ACPI you may not even be able to turn the machine off), cpu frequency, AC/Battery/UPS connections, and all special hardware buttons on some computers (things like audio controls, brightness, sleep). > 107 4451 0.0 0.3 2156 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 > hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event6 > 107 4452 0.0 0.3 2156 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 > hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event7 > 107 4453 0.0 0.3 2160 888 ? S 19:03 0:00 > hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event8 > > ...and 3 things polling for a keyboard which is hooked in via PS/2. = > I'm > sure all of these are great on modern hardware with memory to spare but o= > n a > ol' PIII-750 w/256Mb laptop that sits in a dock all day that's about 6Mb = > of > wasted memory. Ouch. No, it's 2MB of memory - and even that may well be shared with something else. You're trying to micromanage a laptop that is probably doing a fairly good job of managing itself. I understand that there's a real problem with the cpu frequency management, but the rest of it is overhead that (a) you really can't just tear pieces out of and (b) isn't nearly as much as you think. -- derek From macariov at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 13:08:18 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:08:18 -0400 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710090546p7b093d03t15a8a67e32dbc0fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone@att.net> <200710090748.00447.david.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0710090546p7b093d03t15a8a67e32dbc0fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191935298.29505.55.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 07:46 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: > On 10/9/07, David McGlone wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 7:43:53 am David McGlone wrote: > > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > > > > > > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > > > > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g > > > > wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with > > > > Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with > > > > MAC addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine > > > > but can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, > > > > DHCP with MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other > > > > permutations. Bout ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search > > > > for this equipment configuration and could not come up with any solutions > > > > as to why I can not get internet over my wireless router. Of course > > > > Verizon isn't too quick to supply answers either. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have pointers? > > > > > > What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone > > > workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first > > > workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has it's > > > own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it doesn't have > > > the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the first computer. > > > > > > I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided for > > > you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with and > > > change it to match your router. > > > > > > Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can completely > > > reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so and it should > > > reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then connect with your router > > > and set up your connection and finally add your computers to the router. > > > This way your router is looking for the MAC of your router and not your > > > computer. > > > > Just above, I meant to say: "your modem is looking for the MAC of your router > > and not your computer." > What firmware are you using on the WRT54G and is a newer or older > model ? IE You running DD-WRT or some variant ? > I believe it is just about the same as with Bellsouth.. except for the mac address . you need to go to the router gui, find the mac address by accessing status. It is the third item down. Call verizon and ask them to add the mac address on that line, ask them what type of connection it needs to be. Once you get this info, go to the main configuration page and change to the correct connection type. If verizon provided a login and password, ussually if it is PPOe, add it to the config. click on "Save settings" and you should be good. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:13:53 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:13:53 -0300 Subject: KMail & IMAP References: <47094F81.6090902@dmiyu.org> <59008.206.159.183.75.1191864549.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <8075251.eTLKKghOen@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710082337.05331.grey@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <12319939.tQGNgBS1U9@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > On Monday 08 October 2007 12:45:51 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> > Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> Spam checking? > >> > I do have that turned on, yes. > >> That's just another filter, so I'd turn it off for now. If that works, >> you need to make sure that the "Spam handling" and "classify as spam" >> filters actually move the messages to some filter other than Inbox. > > Ok, that seems to have worked. However I don't think that I did it > the > proper way. Where would I normally turn it off. I looked in Tools -> > Spam > Wizard and that seemed dead set on turning it on. I rooted around the > configuration and account configuration and nothing jumped out at me to > turn > off spam checking. Ditto for virus checking. You probably need to just remove the spam filters to turn them off. I think there's only an "on" option, because it's just a shortcut to create some filters. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:15:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:15:33 -0300 Subject: Crazy question References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> <200710091048.22880.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1797774.GGIlIP7MUZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Donn Ingle wrote: >> > Search for CDPATH. >> >> Cool, getting there. I added this to my bash_profile: >> CDPATH=$CDPATH:/home/donn/Projects >> But when I login to a konsole and try to "cd Projects" from (say) / it >> does not find the directory. >> What am I doing stupid :) > > The CDPATH is the directory where cd searches for the current parameter. > You should make the obove line > This is pretty cool. Sometimes you never even know there's a question you want to ask :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:21:38 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:21:38 -0300 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2904078.UT3qrHJ1Vi@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other > desktops. > > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, > and honestly I bet it can't be done. Not that I know of, but I would expect (if such a beast exists) that it would be in the .desktop file. I'd google it if I could figure out a way to force google to include the "." in a search (probably not possible, because it's probably not indexed). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:11:37 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:11:37 -0300 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings References: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> <470AA643.1010905@gmx.net> <4808768.KSbL7ChNii@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B3717.6040805@gmx.net> Message-ID: <42601057.uWmfkD8dLH@cedar.serverforest.com> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Absolutely. If you were to create a new user with a >> kubuntu-default-settings from Dappper, then upgrade to Feisty and create >> another new user, probably the two user environments would look >> noticeably >> different. The user you've had since Hoary, though, wouldn't see a >> change (at least not due to this package). > That is exactly the point! Changes (style maybe, but not features) > should be introduced/removed by kde, and not by kubuntu-default-settings. Why? Kubuntu doesn't wish to look like a generic KDE. It's completely reasonable for them to "brand" the application. That's all that kubuntu-default-settings does. >> I said that... It isn't anything you'll ever notice. > This holds, providing I never compare two user accounts with application > settings from two different versions of kubuntu. (I'm not talking about > the existence /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings, but rather the > implications on application settings and style.) Without kubuntu-default-settings, you'd have exactly the same issues between two desktop users who were configured initially with KDE 3 & 4 direct from KDE. > > This is probably most confusing for someone who keeps his ~/.kde over a > few versions, gets used to style and most important: features, and after > a fresh installation, well, style changes, but if features disappear, > for me that is most annoying. It happens to Windows users, Gnome users and Mac users too. With KDE, it usually isn't a big problem - save & restore the user's HOME and he keeps all the old features. Unfortunately, that sometimes means he misses some of the good, new, features. It's always a trade-off. -- derek From mangg at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 13:44:08 2007 From: mangg at yahoo.com (Joseph) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 06:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU Message-ID: <808654.54374.qm@web56105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Larry,David David is correct in saying it is most probably looking for the MAC of the workstation. This is easily remedied by using the MAC address clone feature in the WRT54G. Remember to restart the modem and then the router and then do renew your local LAN IP with dhclient or KNetworkManager so you get a new LAN IP address. Also please note if you have a WRT54G you may be able to replace the firmware with some great open source software. Check out DD-Wrt and Open-Wrt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g Support Sites http://www.alvarion.com/ http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/link/help/home?linkflag=verizon_dsl Thanks and have a great day, Joe Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:43:53 -0400 From: David McGlone Subject: Re: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Message-ID: <200710090743.54099.david.mcglone at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys wrt54g > wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all prewired with > Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires authentication with MAC > addresses. I have been able to access internet with a single machine but > can not access with my linksys wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, DHCP with > MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE with MAC clone and several other permutations. Bout > ready to pull my short hair out! Did a Google search for this equipment > configuration and could not come up with any solutions as to why I can not > get internet over my wireless router. Of course Verizon isn't too quick to > supply answers either. > > Does anyone have pointers? What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has it's own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it doesn't have the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the first computer. I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided for you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with and change it to match your router. Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can completely reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so and it should reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then connect with your router and set up your connection and finally add your computers to the router. This way your router is looking for the MAC of your router and not your computer. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 13:38:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:38:59 -0300 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other > desktops. > > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, > and honestly I bet it can't be done. Ah. The desktop specification is at http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html and doesn't say anything about this :-( -- derek From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:21:47 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:21:47 -0500 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops In-Reply-To: <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710090721r4476d4e6q3b0bfe0c9eddbf85@mail.gmail.com> > > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my > > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two > > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( > > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other > > desktops. > > > > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, > > and honestly I bet it can't be done. > > Ah. The desktop specification is at > http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html > and doesn't say anything about this :-( > -- > derek About what I figured, I just didn't know where to go looking for the information. Thanks Derek. Greg From macariov at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:54:28 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:54:28 -0400 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710090721r4476d4e6q3b0bfe0c9eddbf85@mail.gmail.com> References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> <720b310e0710090721r4476d4e6q3b0bfe0c9eddbf85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191941668.29505.65.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 09:21 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: > > > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my > > > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two > > > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( > > > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other > > > desktops. > > > > > > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, > > > and honestly I bet it can't be done. > > > > Ah. The desktop specification is at > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html > > and doesn't say anything about this :-( > > -- > > derek > > About what I figured, I just didn't know where to go looking for the > information. Thanks Derek. > > Greg > On the Taskbar do a right click and choose "Configure panel" from the resulting menu. On the resulting screen click on the last icon on the left called "Taskbar". Uncheck the "Show Windows for all Desktops" option. This will make the taskbar show only the programs running for the current desktop. If you mean the shortcut icon on the desktop to only be able to run it from a particular desktop, You are out of luck, in KDE as well as Gnome. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 14:46:13 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:46:13 -0300 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> <720b310e0710090721r4476d4e6q3b0bfe0c9eddbf85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1320529.XgoBjICIyA@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: >> > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my >> > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two >> > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( >> > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other >> > desktops. >> > >> > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, >> > and honestly I bet it can't be done. >> >> Ah. The desktop specification is at >> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html >> and doesn't say anything about this :-( > > About what I figured, I just didn't know where to go looking for the > information. Thanks Derek. I ended up just googling a [] section heading from a .desktop file, and that took me right there. -- derek From bach.michael at gmx.net Tue Oct 9 15:13:41 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:13:41 +0200 Subject: how to disable kubuntu-default-settings In-Reply-To: <42601057.uWmfkD8dLH@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <470A84AD.5020804@gmx.net> <1387320.K201C8PdjP@cedar.serverforest.com> <470AA643.1010905@gmx.net> <4808768.KSbL7ChNii@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B3717.6040805@gmx.net> <42601057.uWmfkD8dLH@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470B9AA5.4030908@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: > >>> Absolutely. If you were to create a new user with a >>> kubuntu-default-settings from Dappper, then upgrade to Feisty and create >>> another new user, probably the two user environments would look >>> noticeably >>> different. The user you've had since Hoary, though, wouldn't see a >>> change (at least not due to this package). >> That is exactly the point! Changes (style maybe, but not features) >> should be introduced/removed by kde, and not by kubuntu-default-settings. > > Why? Kubuntu doesn't wish to look like a generic KDE. It's completely > reasonable for them to "brand" the application. That's all that > kubuntu-default-settings does. > >>> I said that... It isn't anything you'll ever notice. > >> This holds, providing I never compare two user accounts with application >> settings from two different versions of kubuntu. (I'm not talking about >> the existence /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings, but rather the >> implications on application settings and style.) > > Without kubuntu-default-settings, you'd have exactly the same issues between > two desktop users who were configured initially with KDE 3 & 4 direct from > KDE. >> This is probably most confusing for someone who keeps his ~/.kde over a >> few versions, gets used to style and most important: features, and after >> a fresh installation, well, style changes, but if features disappear, >> for me that is most annoying. > > It happens to Windows users, Gnome users and Mac users too. With KDE, it > usually isn't a big problem - save & restore the user's HOME and he keeps > all the old features. Unfortunately, that sometimes means he misses some > of the good, new, features. It's always a trade-off. > Still I'm more than sceptical if this approach is really helpfull. Talking about myself, the level of frustration I experience if things are not as they are on other systems/as I am used to it, is perceivably higher than the excitement of a system "that just works". In addition, if I see something working on another system (on screenshots, linux user group etc.) which is not on my system, I wonder why it's not there. Could be because of another version, easy to find out. Could also be due to branding, more tedious to find out, which renders branding very suboptimal in my opinion. But then again, that might only be me. I come from slackware, there packages are taken into the distribution as they come from the developers, no branding at all. Screenshots for announced application 100% predict what I will get on my pc, unless _I_ have mugged about with the application, not some branding package. I dug out the changelog of our package under discussion [1]. This pretty much tells the whole story of what is really going on. [1] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-27/changelog From paulvarjak at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 15:37:43 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:37:43 +0200 Subject: my computer hangs from time to time and... In-Reply-To: <470A6A18.3050808@gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710071258k76079fc2ub2897f5c82177042@mail.gmail.com> <200710072133.06104.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710072248.14714.kassube@gmx.net> <200710072153.33206.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <5e33e3860710071530k20cb0095x89ff23f471e782fd@mail.gmail.com> <470A6A18.3050808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710090837k6ba1ff52kd6431111c8afcc64@mail.gmail.com> Curious... My version is 7.04 (feisty fawn I think)... Curious, curious curious... Paul On 10/8/07, D. R. Evans wrote: > Paul said the following at 10/07/2007 04:30 PM : > > > This open bug... I don't know, maybe could be that. The computer is an > > AMD Athlon64 4200+, asus m2n-e motherboard, 2gb ram, 3 x 250 Gb Sata > > HDD and ati radeon x1600pro. > > What version of Kubuntu? > > I don't suppose that this will be any comfort, but I get the same thing, > and have been researching it for more than a year. A rather small number of > people have reported this problem with dapper, although the affected > systems seem to have no one thing in common; I have not checked whether > people have reported a problem with later versions of *ubuntu. > > I ran for about a year with 64-bit Mdv 2006.0 without a problem, but when I > switched to 64-bit dapper on the same hardware I started getting occasional > freezes. Sometimes I go months without a problem; sometimes it happens more > than once in a single day. I can find no pattern. > > My current "conclusion" is that it's some sort of problem with the dapper > 64-bit kernel and my ASUS A8N-SLI Premium mobo. > > I did recently try one thing that some people reported as helpful: I tried > the 'noapic' kernel boot parameter. Since doing that: > > 1. I have had no crashes while doing normal work > 2. I have a hard crash every time I burn a CD (at the point where the > burned CD is ejected) > > Doc > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Oct 9 15:53:03 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:53:03 -0700 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <1359265.IXHCnWMysK@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <470B34FF.10701@dmiyu.org> <1359265.IXHCnWMysK@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470BA3DF.2080200@dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > So it's no longer polling, but most of that memory is probably still be= ing > used by hald. Nope, the process is no longer running. Also just did a flat out kil= l on the cpufreq process as well, no ill effects. However unable to find wher= e to properly get rid of that and the lack of documentation in /usr/share/doc/= prompted me to drop KUbuntu on the laptop and reinstall Debian. All of t= his is pretty neat on my gaming desktop but I was spending far too much time trying to rip all this junk out for the old machine to be valuable. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 9 15:58:17 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:58:17 -0500 Subject: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710091058.17412.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require reconfiguration. Is there a good & simple way to do this w/o having to d/l kudsu (or whatever it is called)? T/A... ...Yogich ==== Whomever invented the BlackBerry doesn't know about bottom-posting. From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Oct 9 16:06:42 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:06:42 -0700 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <2778333.IGyYDzlJgH@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <2778333.IGyYDzlJgH@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470BA712.7050705@dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Er, ps auwx says otherwise: >> 107 4746 0.0 0.4 3260 1188 ? S 19:03 0:00 >> hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) > OK, you seem to be right that hal really _is_ watching, but if you just grep > the hald lines, you'll see that hald-addon-storage is watching far more > than /dev/scd0 with that 2100kb (on my system). You can't look at ps and > add up the memory fields and come up with the number of bytes actually > being used. If memory is shared by multiple processes it gets reported for > every process. Er, yes, you can. Top line of ps is this and lines up with the line in question like so: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND 107 5020 0.0 0.1 3260 1188 ? S 08:47 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc (every 2 sec) From the ps man page: vsz VSZ virtual memory size of the process in KiB rss RSS resident set size, the non-swapped physical memory that a task has used (in kiloBytes). (alias rssize, rsz). So my figure if 1.1Mb is from the "resident set size, the non-swapped physical memory that a task has used". The VSZ is the portion which is shared with other processes through libraries. You'll note I always was citing the RSS figure, never the VSZ or the aggregate of both. > First, it's not using 876kb, and second acpi is doing a whole lot more than > power. Sorry, you likely can't live without it. It monitors temperature > (turning on/off the fans), lids (on laptops), the power button (without > ACPI you may not even be able to turn the machine off), cpu frequency, > AC/Battery/UPS connections, and all special hardware buttons on some > computers (things like audio controls, brightness, sleep). Good, none of those I use. We're talking an almost 10 year old Laptop. Moot now, yes, but good to know going into the future. > You're trying to micromanage a laptop that is probably doing a fairly good > job of managing itself. I understand that there's a real problem with the > cpu frequency management, but the rest of it is overhead that (a) you > really can't just tear pieces out of and (b) isn't nearly as much as you > think. No, really, it is. That thing has 256Mb of memory and starting out with KDE means that after I've loaded Firefox and Thunderbird pretty much anything else touches swap. Every process I don't need running because my laptop does not have the hardware or I don't utilize what little hardware is there is just wasted memory. If that stuff is activated for any reason it is pulled out of swap with a very expensive read from the hard drive. I have been using Debian and, for a time, KUbuntu on this laptop since I bought it almost 5 years ago. I'm afraid that no developer on KUbuntu is going to manage my laptop by proxy better than I can. That has become evident in this process. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a good & simple way to do this w/o having to d/l > kudsu (or whatever it is called)? > > T/A... > ...Yogich > ==== > Whomever invented the BlackBerry doesn't know about bottom-posting. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lure at ubuntu.com Tue Oct 9 16:19:05 2007 From: lure at ubuntu.com (Luka Renko) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:19:05 +0200 Subject: IMAP resource functionality broken in gutsy? In-Reply-To: <200710071841.11603.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710071841.11603.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710091819.05810.lure@ubuntu.com> On Sunday 07 October 2007 19:41:10 Peter Lewis wrote: > Has anyone else experienced IMAP resource functionality for the calendar, > address book etc in KDE stop working after upgrading to gutsy? > > They're just showing up as regular folders and the calendar and addressbook > are empty! :-( This sounds like bug 139433 - can you check the workaround mentioned in that bug. I do not know how to fix this upgrade issue properly though, as it seems it is related to kdepim 3.5.x (feisty) -> kdepim enterprise (gutsy) upgrade... Regards, Luka From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 16:23:45 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:23:45 -0500 Subject: Icon on one desktop but not all desktops In-Reply-To: <1191941668.29505.65.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> References: <720b310e0710090549p5725ae0cnc01d51c1f0cf39bb@mail.gmail.com> <1267111.DFOkfsVXWY@cedar.serverforest.com> <720b310e0710090721r4476d4e6q3b0bfe0c9eddbf85@mail.gmail.com> <1191941668.29505.65.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710090923o594113e9h400b9f05bc90bd74@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Macario Valle wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 09:21 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: > > > > OK, so I'm not into the mutiple desktop thing much, but I do keep my > > > > VirtualBox running my winblows crap ( for school ugh ) on Desktop two > > > > and was wondering if there's a way to keep an icon on Desktop 2 ( > > > > Innotek VirtualBox of course ) and not have it display on other > > > > desktops. > > > > > > > > I checked options in the icon but don't really see anything like this, > > > > and honestly I bet it can't be done. > > > > > > Ah. The desktop specification is at > > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html > > > and doesn't say anything about this :-( > > > -- > > > derek > > > > About what I figured, I just didn't know where to go looking for the > > information. Thanks Derek. > > > > Greg > > > On the Taskbar do a right click and choose "Configure panel" from the > resulting menu. On the resulting screen click on the last icon on the > left called "Taskbar". Uncheck the "Show Windows for all Desktops" > option. This will make the taskbar show only the programs running for > the current desktop. > If you mean the shortcut icon on the desktop to only be able to run it > from a particular desktop, You are out of luck, in KDE as well as Gnome. > Yeah, I was wanting to just have the one icon on the desktop for Desktop 2 because that's the only place I use it. I didn't think it'd be something that could be done, but I've been surprised before... Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 17:06:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:06:59 -0300 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <2778333.IGyYDzlJgH@cedar.serverforest.com> <470BA712.7050705@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <6113319.BjIvM3WoiI@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Er, ps auwx says otherwise: > >>> 107 4746 0.0 0.4 3260 1188 ? S 19:03 0:00 >>> hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) > >> OK, you seem to be right that hal really _is_ watching, but if you just >> grep the hald lines, you'll see that hald-addon-storage is watching far >> more >> than /dev/scd0 with that 2100kb (on my system). You can't look at ps and >> add up the memory fields and come up with the number of bytes actually >> being used. If memory is shared by multiple processes it gets reported >> for every process. > > Er, yes, you can. Top line of ps is this and lines up with the line > in > question like so: > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > 107 5020 0.0 0.1 3260 1188 ? S 08:47 0:00 > hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc (every 2 sec) > > From the ps man page: > > vsz VSZ virtual memory size of the process in KiB > rss RSS resident set size, the non-swapped physical memory that a > task has used (in kiloBytes). (alias rssize, rsz). > > So my figure if 1.1Mb is from the "resident set size, the non-swapped > physical memory that a task has used". The VSZ is the portion which is > shared > with other processes through libraries. You'll note I always was citing > the RSS figure, never the VSZ or the aggregate of both. I give up. That is NOT solely owned by that task, RSS or FSZ. ANY memory can be shared. -- derek From manuel at mclure.org Tue Oct 9 17:15:04 2007 From: manuel at mclure.org (Manuel McLure) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:15:04 -0700 Subject: I want a finer-grained volume control. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87ae1d37d920c540e3a7813b3c215fbe@localhost> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:26:10 -0700, Nolan Check wrote: > So, all I want is a finer-grained volume control. I'd like the volume keys > to adjust by 1% or 2% instead of 10%. Is there currently any way to adjust > it? Not quite what you asked for, but if you have a wheel mouse, you can hover over the speaker button in your panel and raise/lower the volume by turning the mouse wheel. I *think* (I'm not sure, since I'm away from my Kubuntu box at the moment) it gives better resolution - perhaps good enough for what you want. -- Manuel A. McLure WW1FA ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 9 17:05:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:05:54 -0300 Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <470B34FF.10701@dmiyu.org> <1359265.IXHCnWMysK@cedar.serverforest.com> <470BA3DF.2080200@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <1803040.p41Uh9ABn7@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve Lamb wrote: > Nope, the process is no longer running. Please include a _little_ context when you respond so that anyone who's following the discussion can keep up :-) Sure, you've killed hald-addon-storage, but all the memory that was being reported did not belong to that process. Some of it would have been shared with other parts of hald, so you've killed one thread and freed some storage, but not as much as you thought. > Also just did a flat out kill on the cpufreq process as well, no > ill effects. I wouldn't expect there to be, but cpufreq would get restarted next boot, unless you either found the switch (in either acpi or the hal .fdi files) or blacklisted the cpufreq driver module. > However unable to find where to > properly get rid of that and the lack of documentation in /usr/share/doc/ > prompted me to drop KUbuntu on the laptop and reinstall Debian. And it was better on Debian? I'd be really surprised to find documentation in Debian that didn't exist in Ubuntu. > All of this > is pretty neat on my gaming desktop but I was spending far too much time > trying to rip all this junk out for the old machine to be valuable. You're tearing your hair out to very little effect - I'm convinced that except for the cpufreq problem, your system wouldn't be noticeably changed by the other issues. -- derek From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 9 17:24:39 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:24:39 +0100 Subject: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710091058.17412.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710091058.17412.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <470BB957.5090500@stdin.me.uk> 7230 wrote: > I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require > reconfiguration. Is there a good & simple way to do this w/o having to d/l > kudsu (or whatever it is called)? > > T/A... > ...Yogich > ==== > Whomever invented the BlackBerry doesn't know about bottom-posting. > > But why don't you have kdesu installed? It's part of kdebase (kdebase-bin) so you really should have that. From grey at dmiyu.org Tue Oct 9 17:32:47 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <6113319.BjIvM3WoiI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <2778333.IGyYDzlJgH@cedar.serverforest.com> <470BA712.7050705@dmiyu.org> <6113319.BjIvM3WoiI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <45567.206.159.183.75.1191951167.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > I give up. That is NOT solely owned by that task, RSS or FSZ. ANY memory > can be shared. Well, one of us is right and one of us is wrong. No reason to give up since this is something that can be empirically proven. It's a simple matter of setting up a proper test to convince the other person. Such as this: [lambs at Nagios]~% free ; ps aux | grep zsh ; kill -9 5396 ; sleep 1 ; ps aux | grep zsh ; free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 514652 459124 55528 0 134096 162412 -/+ buffers/cache: 162616 352036 Swap: 2040244 104 2040140 grey 5371 0.1 0.3 5436 2012 pts/1 Ss 10:25 0:00 -zsh grey 5396 0.0 0.4 5444 2064 pts/2 Ss+ 10:25 0:00 /bin/zsh grey 5421 0.0 0.4 5448 2084 pts/4 Ss 10:25 0:00 /bin/zsh grey 5750 0.0 0.1 3916 720 pts/4 S+ 10:27 0:00 grep zsh grey 5371 0.1 0.3 5436 2012 pts/1 Ss 10:25 0:00 -zsh grey 5421 0.0 0.4 5448 2084 pts/4 Ss 10:25 0:00 /bin/zsh grey 5754 0.0 0.1 3916 684 pts/4 S+ 10:27 0:00 grep zsh total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 514652 458504 56148 0 134096 162432 -/+ buffers/cache: 161976 352676 Swap: 2040244 104 2040140 Killing off one of the zsh processes with an RSS of 2064 changed the free RAM (+buffers) from 352036 to 352676 for a change of 640kb instead of the anticipated 2064kb. You're right. See? Painless. -- Steve Lamb From franka at svpal.org Tue Oct 9 17:34:50 2007 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:34:50 -0700 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns Message-ID: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns Seven teenagers have been arrested -- one armed with a knife and another found to have a 9mm semiautomatic handgun -- in connection with at least eight student bathroom shakedowns at Mt. Diablo High School, authorities said Tuesday. MORE DETAILS: From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Oct 9 17:45:28 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:45:28 +0100 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> Message-ID: <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> Frank Arnold wrote: > > > And what does that have to do with Kubuntu? From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:51:40 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:51:40 +0200 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: Maybe it is a trap? Did you click the link? Do you now have a root kit? Douglas On 10/9/07, Terence Simpson wrote: > > Frank Arnold wrote: > > > > > > > > And what does that have to do with Kubuntu? > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At least it didn't have anything to do with nigerian check scams or viagra. From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:57:06 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:57:06 -0500 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <720b310e0710091057h281dc4d9kedb0b40f5951d65@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Knapp wrote: > Maybe it is a trap? Did you click the link? Do you now have a root kit? > Douglas > > > On 10/9/07, Terence Simpson wrote: > > Frank Arnold wrote: > > > > > > > > And what does that have to do with Kubuntu? > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, > doch völlig sinnlos. > -Loriot > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I think ktvu.com got hacked... all their NEWS is under /news not /tu -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:59:33 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:59:33 -0500 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <200710091855.15020.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <200710091855.15020.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <720b310e0710091059wf80a1b0o95f767d0838af7a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 18:34, Frank Arnold wrote: > > > High School Bathroom Shakedowns > > > Hmmmm.... ;-) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > It's actually a true story here: http://www.ktvu.com/news/14300479/detail.html -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From rscrawford at mossroot.com Tue Oct 9 17:59:32 2007 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:59:32 -0700 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: On 10/9/07, Knapp wrote: > > Maybe it is a trap? Did you click the link? Do you now have a root kit? > Douglas > > I thought that perhaps the kids were a renegade faction of the high school's Computer Club. Those Windows/Linux wars can get ugly, even at the high school level. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 9 18:05:09 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:05:09 -0400 Subject: linksys wrt54g and Verizon DSL using Alvarion IDU In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710090546p7b093d03t15a8a67e32dbc0fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <100920070459.21639.470B0AC6000842990000548722230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCFCA020E039B9D0E08979D9D0E04@bellsouth.net> <200710090748.00447.david.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0710090546p7b093d03t15a8a67e32dbc0fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710091405.10184.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 8:46:23 am Greg Booth wrote: > On 10/9/07, David McGlone wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 7:43:53 am David McGlone wrote: > > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:59:50 am larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > Hi folks just moved from South Carolina to California. > > > > > > > > This post is way off topic, but could use some serious help. I used > > > > Bellsouth DSL with a Westell Modem in SC hooked into my linksys > > > > wrt54g wireless router, now am in a neighborhood with homes all > > > > prewired with Verizon DSL using a Alvarion IDU. Verizon requires > > > > authentication with MAC addresses. I have been able to access > > > > internet with a single machine but can not access with my linksys > > > > wrt54g router. I have tried DHCP, DHCP with MAC clone, PPOE, PPOE > > > > with MAC clone and several other permutations. Bout ready to pull my > > > > short hair out! Did a Google search for this equipment configuration > > > > and could not come up with any solutions as to why I can not get > > > > internet over my wireless router. Of course Verizon isn't too quick > > > > to supply answers either. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have pointers? > > > > > > What I'm thinking is since you connected successfully with a standalone > > > workstation, your service is looking for the MAC address of that first > > > workstation you connected to Verizon with and since your router has > > > it's own MAC address, the router is not able to connect because it > > > doesn't have the same MAC that Verizon is looking for that matches the > > > first computer. > > > > > > I would look in the configurations on the modem that Verizon provided > > > for you, for the MAC address of that first computer you connected with > > > and change it to match your router. > > > > > > Another possibility is if your modem has this feature, you can > > > completely reset it by holding in the reset button for 10 seconds or so > > > and it should reset the modem back to the factory defaults, then > > > connect with your router and set up your connection and finally add > > > your computers to the router. This way your router is looking for the > > > MAC of your router and not your computer. > > > > Just above, I meant to say: "your modem is looking for the MAC of your > > router and not your computer." > > What firmware are you using on the WRT54G and is a newer or older > model ? IE You running DD-WRT or some variant ? Sorry, I am not using anything related to Verizon. My observation and tips are from working with MAC address's in the past. My instinct is telling me your modem grabbed the MAC address of the first computer you connected it to, and when you tried to connect the router, the MAC didn't match the one in the modem, therefore, you cannot connect using the router until you change the MAC that is on the Modem. -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 19:31:28 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:31:28 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: <1797774.GGIlIP7MUZ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710090944.01942.kassube@gmx.net> <200710091048.22880.kassube@gmx.net> <1797774.GGIlIP7MUZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: > This is pretty cool. Sometimes you never even know there's a question you > want to ask :-) Ha :D Good point. \d From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Tue Oct 9 19:42:01 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:42:01 -0500 Subject: Screen Saver Message-ID: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> So I was removing a program from my installation of Kubuntu. I can't remember right now what program it was, but I typed "sudo apt-get remove whatever" Kubuntu started doing it's thing and then asked me if I wanted to continue. I answered yes and then realize after Kubuntu was done doing it's thing that kubuntu-desktop had been removed. After, my screen saver will not start. When time for the screen saver to start comes, I just get blank screen and the screen is not locked. However, when I hit alt+ctrl+l, the screen saver comes on and the screen locks. So, you may say, just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," which is what I thought too so I did. Kubuntu-desktop installed with all associated programs but the screen saver issue still remains. No screen saver starts and no screen lock unless I "alt+ctrl+l." Any ideas? Darryl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think he's talking about Kudzu, the system Red Hat uses to detect hardware on bootup. I don't think that Kudzu is easily downloaded and implemented for Debian (and derivatives). Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From macariov at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 20:16:03 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:16:03 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710091059wf80a1b0o95f767d0838af7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <200710091855.15020.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <720b310e0710091059wf80a1b0o95f767d0838af7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191960963.7149.7.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 12:59 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: > On 10/9/07, Peter Lewis wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 18:34, Frank Arnold wrote: > > > > > High School Bathroom Shakedowns > > > > > > Hmmmm.... ;-) > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > It's actually a true story here: > > http://www.ktvu.com/news/14300479/detail.html > > -- > > The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX > Someone must have noticed our lack of care for the world... I do care, really, i do care, just not about the world. Now, Can i get a faster pc with a power hungry GPU, What star compliant so i can be a little green? Was't that hoopla about painting my house green, i already bought it green, thank you. I figure I had that cover for caring about the world. At least this was not any sort of scam, like buying green credits, with my hard earned green. i checked the credentials of a few of those and they do not have much in the way of accountability, so I decided for a bigger, monitor and configured a green background for my desktop. Now, who is crazier? From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 20:16:17 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:16:17 +0200 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: > I thought that perhaps the kids were a renegade faction of the high > school's Computer Club. Those Windows/Linux wars can get ugly, even at the > high school level. > > -- > Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) Sounds like the makings of a great new 3d computer game! Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The alternative is to leave the bathroom with dribbles down your leg... stew From macariov at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 21:17:29 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:17:29 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1191964649.7149.11.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 16:41 -0400, Stew Schneider wrote: > I don't get it....there have been bathroom shakedowns since there were > men's bathrooms. Why would that get you arrested? The alternative is to > leave the bathroom with dribbles down your leg... > > stew > Yea, It's the police state... next, Get arrested for sneezing without covering your mouth! That's a nasty habit some dudes have! From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 21:19:59 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:19:59 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > Knapp wrote: > > Sounds like the makings of a great new 3d computer game! > > Douglas > I don't get it....there have been bathroom shakedowns since there were > men's bathrooms. Why would that get you arrested? The alternative is to > leave the bathroom with dribbles down your leg... > > stew What's so wrong about leaving the bathroom with dribbles down the leg? I actually prefer it. It makes me feel more like a man. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From progressivepenguin at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 21:27:26 2007 From: progressivepenguin at gmail.com (Steve T) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:27:26 -0500 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> So a non-kubuntu post gets more replies than most kubuntu related posts? What's the world coming to? -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But it would be a problem if I wanted to adjust the volume during a full-screen game or something. From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 9 22:29:00 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 23:29:00 +0100 Subject: IMAP resource functionality broken in gutsy? In-Reply-To: <200710091819.05810.lure@ubuntu.com> References: <200710071841.11603.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710091819.05810.lure@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200710092329.01089.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 17:19:05 Luka Renko wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 19:41:10 Peter Lewis wrote: > > Has anyone else experienced IMAP resource functionality for the calendar, > > address book etc in KDE stop working after upgrading to gutsy? > > > > They're just showing up as regular folders and the calendar and > > addressbook are empty! :-( > > This sounds like bug 139433 - can you check the workaround mentioned in > that bug. > I do not know how to fix this upgrade issue properly though, as it seems it > is related to kdepim 3.5.x (feisty) -> kdepim enterprise (gutsy) upgrade... Yep, great, thanks for the suggestion. The work-around worked. Pete. :-) From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 22:53:29 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:53:29 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470C0669.8070404@gmail.com> Steve T wrote: > So a non-kubuntu post gets more replies than most kubuntu related posts? > What's the world coming to? Well...Kubuntu is so well put together, it doesn't take many responses to clear up the few problems that do develop. Men's bathroom etiquette, on the other hand, and the machinations of the nanny state. . . now that takes some discussion. stew From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 23:07:07 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:07:07 -0400 Subject: privoxy & tor and downloads Message-ID: <200710091907.07620.cms0009@gmail.com> okay, I'm using kubuntu, with tor and privoxy, and have downloaded some apps...etc..etc I notice when the download manager comes up to start the download, wonder if the download manager is by-pass the tor and privoxy connection and connecting direct to the web site for the download. I know kget has a separate proxy setting (but the standard built-in) download manager for konqueror doesn't by itself... konqueror has its own proxy setting, which HOPEFULLY work to include its built-in download manager. Anyone, know this for sure ? TIA Richard From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 9 23:49:08 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:49:08 +0100 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470C0669.8070404@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> <470C0669.8070404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710100049.09218.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 23:53:29 Stew Schneider wrote: > Well...Kubuntu is so well put together, it doesn't take many responses > to clear up the few problems that do develop. Men's bathroom etiquette, > on the other hand, and the machinations of the nanny state. . . now that > takes some discussion. And anyone know a good mailing list for this? ;-) From david.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 10 00:00:37 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:00:37 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710092000.37516.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 4:41:29 pm Stew Schneider wrote: > Knapp wrote: > > Sounds like the makings of a great new 3d computer game! > > Douglas > > I don't get it....there have been bathroom shakedowns since there were > men's bathrooms. Why would that get you arrested? The alternative is to > leave the bathroom with dribbles down your leg... Is this coming from experience ;-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 10 00:03:10 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:03:10 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710092003.10521.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 5:27:26 pm Steve T wrote: > So a non-kubuntu post gets more replies than most kubuntu related posts? > What's the world coming to? I think it's because Kubuntu works so darn good, that when there's a question about kubuntu, we don't know the answer because it "just works" :-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From david.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 10 00:05:02 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:05:02 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <470C0669.8070404@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <7156d5f20710091427k760ced76uf9cc072d473b79d3@mail.gmail.com> <470C0669.8070404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710092005.02613.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 6:53:29 pm Stew Schneider wrote: > Steve T wrote: > > So a non-kubuntu post gets more replies than most kubuntu related posts? > > What's the world coming to? > > Well...Kubuntu is so well put together, it doesn't take many responses > to clear up the few problems that do develop. Men's bathroom etiquette, > on the other hand, and the machinations of the nanny state. . . now that > takes some discussion. Kubuntu = Maytag repairman. Even we get board :-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From prlewis at letterboxes.org Wed Oct 10 00:05:46 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:05:46 +0100 Subject: Kmail vs Kontact in gutsy. Message-ID: <200710100105.47573.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hello again, more kmail woes I'm afraid... Quite a while ago, I asked a question on this list about kmail and kontact. The problem was that when using an IMAP resource for the calendar, korgac (the korganiser reminder daemon) started kmail to get hold of its data *before* kontact or kmail is started, thus originally causing both to start at the restoration of a session (i.e. startup). Luis Silva quite helpfully wrote: > I am having the same problem but I guess I know the reason. I am using a > disconnected IMAP server for both e-mail and contacts. It also happens that > I am using khalki. This means that a request for the addresses is issued > before kontact is started. So kmail is started instead as it is the manager > of all IMAP transactions. > > I am sorry but I don't have a solution to this. I guess the new akonadi > framework will solve this issue. Well, we're still waiting for akonadi :-) but in the meantime, I had quite a nice work-around which involved stopping the session manager from starting the kontact process, and only using the individual apps. This seems to have broken with gutsy. Instead, when starting kmail, it seems to automatically start a kontact process too, and then both freeze. I can quite happily (usually) kill the kontact process, and then kmail continues as usual, but at some point it starts another kontact process (and they freeze). This didn't happen with Feisty though, so I'm guessing its another result of changing to the enterprise version of kdepim. I guess I'm just a little disappointed at how, considering that the PIM stuff is such a flagship for KDE, how many weird behaviours there are in Kubuntu with it. I also guess that it's because I'm using IMAP resource functionality, but then that was always *the* big +++ for me with KDE :-) Anyone else found this, or got any suggestions? Cheers, Pete. P.S. Akonadi seems to be progressing well (according to blogland) but is it likely to make a big impact in the forthcoming KDE4 release? From david.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 10 00:06:23 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:06:23 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BE779.6000804@gmail.com> <9bed467e0710091419labc6be1h90f812369acaf2df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710092006.23838.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 5:19:59 pm Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On 10/9/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > Knapp wrote: > > > Sounds like the makings of a great new 3d computer game! > > > Douglas > > > > I don't get it....there have been bathroom shakedowns since there were > > men's bathrooms. Why would that get you arrested? The alternative is to > > leave the bathroom with dribbles down your leg... > > > > stew > > What's so wrong about leaving the bathroom with dribbles down the leg? > I actually prefer it. It makes me feel more like a man. Hey it's better than turds falling out of your pant leg :-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From grey at dmiyu.org Wed Oct 10 00:22:02 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Impressions of Gutsy (Was: First impressions of dolphin) In-Reply-To: <1803040.p41Uh9ABn7@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710031158.25354.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710090017.03178.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <58575.206.159.183.75.1191864497.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <200710090152.16464.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <56650.206.159.183.75.1191870397.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <7159022.BYgMDxSUip@cedar.serverforest.com> <63169.206.159.183.75.1191876868.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> <1944462.BoLEmztSsN@cedar.serverforest.com> <470B0F8D.5050703@dmiyu.org> <470B34FF.10701@dmiyu.org> <1359265.IXHCnWMysK@cedar.serverforest.com> <470BA3DF.2080200@dmiyu.org> <1803040.p41Uh9ABn7@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <38337.206.159.183.75.1191975722.squirrel@www.dmiyu.org> Derek Broughton wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: [ snip ] > Sure, you've killed hald-addon-storage, but all the memory that was being > reported did not belong to that process. Some of it would have been shared > with other parts of hald, so you've killed one thread and freed some > storage, but not as much as you thought. Granted. Still every bit helps. > I wouldn't expect there to be, but cpufreq would get restarted next boot, > unless you either found the switch (in either acpi or the hal .fdi files) > or blacklisted the cpufreq driver module. Which is why I am frustrated at the lack clear directions either inside the interface (KDE) or on the hard drive on where to configure this stuff. I've dug through /etc/hal, /usr/share/doc/hal/, man -k hal, and there's not a whole lot on how to configure this stuff. >> However unable to find where to >> properly get rid of that and the lack of documentation in /usr/share/doc/ >> prompted me to drop KUbuntu on the laptop and reinstall Debian. > And it was better on Debian? I'd be really surprised to find documentation > in Debian that didn't exist in Ubuntu. Well, there is a difference between Ubuntu and Debian in that Ubuntu is built upon Debian and adds to it. It just seemed like most of the stuff I was ripping out was put there to be a convenience for modern hardware. Starting out on a distribution which is not adding so much might be better for older hardware. I might have to rip stuff out but I'm inclined to believe I'll be ripping out less. There's also that and the fact that I have over a decade of Debian experience on many machines under my belt. I moved to Ubuntu because of my frustration of Debian not addressing modern hardware conveniently enough. That is why my gaming box is still KUbuntu and most likely to remain so. Of course it has a Gb of RAM so a few dozen|hundred K taken up by daemon threads will not concern me as much as on a 256Mb machine which I use for all my productivity work. And truth be told the straw last night was the fact that I wanted to give XFCE4 a whirl to see if dropping KDE would help more than my nickel and dime stuff. Loaded xubuntu-desktop with aptitude, logged out, reset KDM, set my session to XFCE, logged in and was instantly greeted with a blank screen. xfce4-panel segfaults, rxvt which worked under KDE segfaults under XFCE4, nothing that I tried to run worked, it all segfaulted. I've never had something that bad happen under base Debian when switching between KDE/XFCE4 so just decided to go back to stable for a while and work my way back up. I've put off my work on this laptop too long. > You're tearing your hair out to very little effect - I'm convinced that > except for the cpufreq problem, your system wouldn't be noticeably changed > by the other issues. You are most likely right. But at this point KUbuntu's off that system for the time being. Don't get me wrong, I like KUbuntu on my game machine. I am stoked that I've got EVE and WoW working under base wine and all I had to do was install and go. That's exactly what I am looking for on my game machine. So I'm not soured on KUbuntu as a whole, just on my ancient laptop. Chances are if I get a modern laptop I'll give KUbuntu another whirl on it and won't care about all of these programs running as I'll have the space to not care. Anyway, thank you for your input, it was very helpful and much appreciated. That and I learned that I was mistaken about what a tool was reporting to me. It's always good to be disabused of bad information. -- Steve Lamb From dreadgeek at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 00:38:21 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:38:21 -0700 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <20071009115640.nkr944oio00404cc@notsosoft.net> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <470BBE38.2010901@stdin.me.uk> <20071009115640.nkr944oio00404cc@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <200710091738.22470.dreadgeek@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:56:40 am manchicken at notsosoft.net wrote: > Quoting Terence Simpson : > > Frank Arnold wrote: > Look on the bright side. At least it didn't have anything to do with > nigerian check scams or viagra. Well, no one wants you to be disappointed so... Dearest friend Kubuntu: How are you and your family? I appreciate the help that you gave me in the past and I think the God that you will hear my plea now. I am Aj and I live in the place called Orygun in the city of Ten Bridges that is the Land of Ports. My mother and father have died and left me $75,000.000.00 in inheritance from their llama, alpaca and wine enterprises. However, because of a coup perpetrated by the House of Bush I am unable to get the money out of Orygun. I ask in the name of the God that you would help me by providing me your bank account number so that I can have my attorney, Ms Jane Dewey, of the law firm Dewey, Scruham and Howe, deposit the money in our account. For your troubles I I have authorized my attorney to provide you with 50% of the money. I thank the God that you are there to help me as I have cancer of the hair and not much long to live. Thank you for helping me and my starving children. Please forward this on to everyone you know and every mail list you are on. if you don't you have no heart, no soul, no hair and you will never be able to house train that puppy or box train your kitten. Cheers Aj Did that help? :) -- A good bookshop is just a genteel Black Hole that knows how to read. (Terry Pratchett Guards! Guards!) From david.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 10 00:42:59 2007 From: david.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:42:59 -0400 Subject: Seven Arrested In High School Bathroom Shakedowns In-Reply-To: <200710091738.22470.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <470BBBBA.3090002@svpal.org> <20071009115640.nkr944oio00404cc@notsosoft.net> <200710091738.22470.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710092042.59772.david.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 8:38:21 pm Adrienne J Davis wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:56:40 am manchicken at notsosoft.net wrote: > > Quoting Terence Simpson : > > > Frank Arnold wrote: > > > > Look on the bright side. At least it didn't have anything to do with > > nigerian check scams or viagra. > > Well, no one wants you to be disappointed so... > > Dearest friend Kubuntu: > > How are you and your family? I appreciate the help that you gave me in the > past and I think the God that you will hear my plea now. I am Aj and I > live in the place called Orygun in the city of Ten Bridges that is the Land > of Ports. My mother and father have died and left me $75,000.000.00 in > inheritance from their llama, alpaca and wine enterprises. However, > because of a coup perpetrated by the House of Bush I am unable to get the > money out of Orygun. I ask in the name of the God that you would help me > by providing me your bank account number so that I can have my attorney, Ms > Jane Dewey, of the law firm Dewey, Scruham and Howe, deposit the money in > our account. For your troubles I I have authorized my attorney to provide > you with 50% of the money. > > I thank the God that you are there to help me as I have cancer of the hair > and not much long to live. Thank you for helping me and my starving > children. Please forward this on to everyone you know and every mail list > you are on. if you don't you have no heart, no soul, no hair and you will > never be able to house train that puppy or box train your kitten. > > Cheers > Aj > > Did that help? :) Man your good. Are you sure you aren't one of them? ;-) -- David M. If I received .01 cent for every person that has to put in their .02 cents I'd be rich! From dreadgeek at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 00:48:57 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:48:57 -0700 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710091749.08348.dreadgeek@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 12:22:03 am Donn Ingle wrote: > Yo, > There may already be, but is there a way to create "universal" links > to certain directories? I was wondering the other day if I couldn't > type "cd writing" from any other directory and have it take me to > ~/projects/writing. > That would be cool. > I suppose I could write a script to take a param and cd to it, but I > was wondering if I was missing something smarter. > > > \d Donn: You could try this: In your .bashrc do: alias writing='cd ~/writing' I use aliases a lot. For example: alias docs='cd ~/Documents' alias music='cd ~/Documents/Music' alias images='cd ~/Documents/pictures' You get the idea. Cheers Aj -- Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 02:28:02 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:28:02 -0400 Subject: OT: Grand Central Warning In-Reply-To: <470C3420.1050705@gmail.com> References: <470C3420.1050705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710091928q3e8abf8br2c06525172d3090@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Michael wrote: > A few weeks ago, someone posted a message regarding Grand Central, a > service that will give you a phone number that you can give out to > people and have all your calls routed to either a home, work or cell > number. After signing up with the service (you need to wait for an > 'invitiation'), the email address that I used to register the account > began to get a copious (new word for me) amount of spam. Luckily, it is > a disposable email address so I don't really care. Just an advisory - > if you sign up for Grand Central, use a disposable email address. > > Mike I'm sorry to hear that, at least it was a disposable email address. I am surprised by this because it appears that Grand Central is now owned by Google. Did you sign up for this service before or after Google's acquisition of it? I hope you don't start getting a load of telemarketing smut. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 03:34:14 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 23:34:14 -0400 Subject: Kerry ? Message-ID: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> Is there anyone running kerry as of yet, if so, any problems or hang up doing desktop searching or indexing large files. Thanks - Richard From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 10 03:34:50 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:34:50 -0500 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require reconfiguration. I suppose I could delete some config files but would not know if I had them all. Problem is, I used the installation engine to set everything up the first time ...and as a result, do not know which app is required for reconfig of the NIC. It is not the same brand NIC, or I would not be having this problem. This is what I get when I attempt to bring up the interface(s): root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth0 up eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth1 up eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device This all used to work, and was utilizing connection sharing. Now, I'm dead in the water, and I need some pointers. T/A... ...Yogich ==== Whomever invented the BlackBerry doesn't know about bottom-posting. From hexstar at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 04:51:49 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:51:49 -0700 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710092151l2d27003ap502e71ff0ac60725@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, 7230 wrote: > I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require > reconfiguration. I suppose I could delete some config files but would not > know if I had them all. Problem is, I used the installation engine to set > everything up the first time ...and as a result, do not know which app is > required for reconfig of the NIC. It is not the same brand NIC, or I would > not be having this problem. > > This is what I get when I attempt to bring up the interface(s): > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth0 up > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth1 up > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > > This all used to work, and was utilizing connection sharing. Now, I'm dead in > the water, and I need some pointers. > Here you go: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_configure_network_connections :) From hexstar at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 04:54:16 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:54:16 -0700 Subject: Screen Saver In-Reply-To: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> References: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710092154m3550f9a7i6f1aa15fc0a495a1@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Darryl Tidd wrote: > > So I was removing a program from my installation of Kubuntu. I can't > remember right now what program it was, but I typed "sudo apt-get remove > whatever" Kubuntu started doing it's thing and then asked me if I > wanted to continue. I answered yes and then realize after Kubuntu was > done doing it's thing that kubuntu-desktop had been removed. After, my > screen saver will not start. When time for the screen saver to start > comes, I just get blank screen and the screen is not locked. However, > when I hit alt+ctrl+l, the screen saver comes on and the screen locks. > So, you may say, just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," which is > what I thought too so I did. Kubuntu-desktop installed with all > associated programs but the screen saver issue still remains. No screen > saver starts and no screen lock unless I "alt+ctrl+l." Any ideas? > > > > What happens if you try reconfiguring the screensaver? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 10 05:33:49 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:33:49 +0200 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710100733.49178.kassube@gmx.net> 7230 wrote: > I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require > reconfiguration. I suppose I could delete some config files but would > not know if I had them all. Problem is, I used the installation engine > to set everything up the first time ...and as a result, do not know > which app is required for reconfig of the NIC. It is not the same > brand NIC, or I would not be having this problem. > > This is what I get when I attempt to bring up the interface(s): > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth0 up > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth1 up > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Do you know which type your new NIC is? What is the output of the lspci command? Maybe the kernel module for the new NIC is not automatically loaded or maybe it needs ndiswrapper to work. Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 05:39:15 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn Ingle) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:39:15 +0200 Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: <200710091749.08348.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710091749.08348.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: > alias writing='cd ~/writing' > alias docs='cd ~/Documents' > alias music='cd ~/Documents/Music' > alias images='cd ~/Documents/pictures' Cunning. Oh yeah. I likey a lotey. :) \d From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 05:50:18 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710092234.51438.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <549554.63284.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 7230 wrote: > I have changed the NIC on my Desktop box and, as a result, require > reconfiguration. I suppose I could delete some config files but > would not > know if I had them all. Problem is, I used the installation engine > to set > everything up the first time ...and as a result, do not know which > app is > required for reconfig of the NIC. It is not the same brand NIC, or > I would > not be having this problem. > > This is what I get when I attempt to bring up the interface(s): > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth0 up > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > > root at kubuntu:/home/yogi# ifconfig eth1 up > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device > > This all used to work, and was utilizing connection sharing. Now, > I'm dead in > the water, and I need some pointers. I move my Debian and Ubuntu hard drives from my computer at home to a couple of computers at the local computer club. What I found is that I have a configuration for each different location in the /etc/network/interfaces file. All I did was copy the one from my home machine using DHCP setup and then labeled them eth1, eth2, etc. I have no problem at all. I think that the ethx is based on the MAC address. A different eth for each MAC address. I've never moved the card with the disk from computer to computer to test my theory though. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 05:53:32 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Crazy question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <671710.40423.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Donn Ingle wrote: > > alias writing='cd ~/writing' > > alias docs='cd ~/Documents' > > alias music='cd ~/Documents/Music' > > alias images='cd ~/Documents/pictures' > Cunning. Oh yeah. I likey a lotey. > :) > > \d Another suggestion I've found to keep me out of trouble moving to someone else's machine that might have a different meaning for the same alias I use. I use CAPs for my alias names. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From prlewis at letterboxes.org Wed Oct 10 10:53:15 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:53:15 +0100 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710101153.15843.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 at 04:34:14 Richard wrote: > Is there anyone running kerry as of yet, > if so, any problems or hang up doing desktop searching > or indexing large files. I heard that Kerry's not running this time... ;-) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400943.html (sorry) From eschwinger at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 12:59:14 2007 From: eschwinger at yahoo.com (Eyram Schwinger) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Need Information on Gutsy Message-ID: <825763.45113.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi I have been using kubuntu for sometime now and wanted to install it on a dell optiplex gx260 but i had a lot of problems with 7.04 but i had a lot of problems like the cd not booting and system unusable after install. I want to know if anyone has tried the gutsy on dell optiplex or similar systems and the outcome ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 10 12:59:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:59:52 -0300 Subject: Screen Saver References: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <1659490.8601A7givW@cedar.serverforest.com> Darryl Tidd wrote: > So I was removing a program from my installation of Kubuntu. I can't > remember right now what program it was, but I typed "sudo apt-get remove > whatever" Kubuntu started doing it's thing and then asked me if I > wanted to continue. I answered yes and then realize after Kubuntu was > done doing it's thing that kubuntu-desktop had been removed. After, my > screen saver will not start. When time for the screen saver to start > comes, I just get blank screen and the screen is not locked. However, > when I hit alt+ctrl+l, the screen saver comes on and the screen locks. > So, you may say, just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," which is > what I thought too so I did. Kubuntu-desktop installed with all > associated programs but the screen saver issue still remains. No screen > saver starts and no screen lock unless I "alt+ctrl+l." Any ideas? Only that the screensaver and kubuntu-desktop issues aren't related :-) -- derek From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Wed Oct 10 14:24:21 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:24:21 -0500 Subject: Screen Saver In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710092154m3550f9a7i6f1aa15fc0a495a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> <5dc6fd9e0710092154m3550f9a7i6f1aa15fc0a495a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470CE095.8040808@daaokc.com> Hex Star wrote: > > > On 10/9/07, *Darryl Tidd* > wrote: > > So I was removing a program from my installation of Kubuntu. I can't > remember right now what program it was, but I typed "sudo apt-get > remove > whatever" Kubuntu started doing it's thing and then asked me if I > wanted to continue. I answered yes and then realize after Kubuntu was > done doing it's thing that kubuntu-desktop had been > removed. After, my > screen saver will not start. When time for the screen saver to start > comes, I just get blank screen and the screen is not locked. However, > when I hit alt+ctrl+l, the screen saver comes on and the screen locks. > So, you may say, just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," > which is > what I thought too so I did. Kubuntu-desktop installed with all > associated programs but the screen saver issue still remains. No > screen > saver starts and no screen lock unless I "alt+ctrl+l." Any ideas? > > > > > > What happens if you try reconfiguring the screensaver? Same thing. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 19:09:02 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:09:02 +0200 Subject: Need Information on Gutsy In-Reply-To: <825763.45113.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <825763.45113.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710101209u2095e305o6558069ecbbe6a1f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/2007, Eyram Schwinger wrote: > > Hi > I have been using kubuntu for sometime now and wanted to install it on a > dell optiplex gx260 but i had a lot of problems with 7.04 but i had a lot of > problems like the cd not booting and system unusable after install. I want > to know if anyone has tried the gutsy on dell optiplex or similar systems > and the outcome > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > What do you mean by "system unusable"? Is it smoking? Fire? What graphics card do you have? My Dell Inspiron has the ATI X1400, which means that a standard install leaves me at a non-GUI console. The workaround is easy and takes 4 seconds. You should describe in detail the state of the machine, and any messages, and maybe people on this list can help you install. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 10 19:36:12 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Need Information on Gutsy Message-ID: <877752.15135.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I have gutsy on a gx280 and it was working fine until today. With Dell machines, you have to hit f12 during system start to boot from other than HDD no matter how you set the bios. I had a problem for a while with xorg-server-core which produced a black strip over about a fifth of my screen, but that seems to have been fixed in the past 2 weeks. As a stop gap, I just reinstalled the old version of the package. After rebooting after today's updates, I can no longer mount.cifs Seems there are permission errors. But I am not trying to explicitly mount any shares. I think it is related to pam, winbind and trying to connect to an active directory domain. Working for a few weeks before today. -- _____________________________ artAlexion art[dot]alexion[at]verizon[dot]net Sent unsigned from web interface. Confirm source if important. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dotan Cohen To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:09:02 PM Subject: Re: Need Information on Gutsy On 10/10/2007, Eyram Schwinger wrote: > > Hi > I have been using kubuntu for sometime now and wanted to install it on a > dell optiplex gx260 but i had a lot of problems with 7.04 but i had a lot of > problems like the cd not booting and system unusable after install. I want > to know if anyone has tried the gutsy on dell optiplex or similar systems > and the outcome > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > What do you mean by "system unusable"? Is it smoking? Fire? What graphics card do you have? My Dell Inspiron has the ATI X1400, which means that a standard install leaves me at a non-GUI console. The workaround is easy and takes 4 seconds. You should describe in detail the state of the machine, and any messages, and maybe people on this list can help you install. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lists at ptfd.org Wed Oct 10 20:24:28 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:24:28 -0400 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710101153.15843.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101153.15843.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <200710101624.28156.lists@ptfd.org> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 06:53:15 am Peter Lewis wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 at 04:34:14 Richard wrote: > > Is there anyone running kerry as of yet, > > if so, any problems or hang up doing desktop searching > > or indexing large files. > > I heard that Kerry's not running this time... ;-) > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR200701240 >0943.html > > (sorry) No problems here, In fact i reinstalled it on my gutsy machine, and got rid of the default strigi. From G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be Wed Oct 10 20:36:01 2007 From: G.De_Leeuw at eurofer.be (Guy Deleeuw) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:36:01 +0200 Subject: cups and kde on gutsy Message-ID: <470D37B1.4010304@eurofer.be> Hi all I have a strange behavior. I have a local network at my works shared via cups, ok I see all printers from any applications. I have a local network at my home, ok also I see my network printer connected to my home computer and shared via cups. I have also a vpn (openvpn) from firefox, thunderbird and OOo I can see all of my printers (from my company but also from my home local network) But I canoot see the printers from my work over KDE applications. I can add a printer, and kprinter show me all printers. But how can force kprinter to see all printers automatically like OOo or firefox ? Thanks in advance for your help Guy From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 21:49:18 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:49:18 -0500 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710101649.18872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007 10:34:14 pm Richard wrote: > Is there anyone running kerry as of yet, > if so, any problems or hang up doing desktop searching > or indexing large files. > > Thanks - > Richard I got rid of Kerry and Beagle due to its dependence on Mono, which is probably going to be a point of contention between Linux users and Mickeysoft Not only that but it did kind of drag my machine down on some occasions. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 23:15:47 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:15:47 -0400 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710101624.28156.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101153.15843.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710101624.28156.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710101915.48000.cms0009@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 4:24:28 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 06:53:15 am Peter Lewis wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 at 04:34:14 Richard wrote: > > > Is there anyone running kerry as of yet, > > > if so, any problems or hang up doing desktop searching > > > or indexing large files. > > > > I heard that Kerry's not running this time... ;-) > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012 > >40 0943.html > > > > (sorry) > > No problems here, In fact i reinstalled it on my gutsy machine, and got rid > of the default strigi. I just install it, it seems to work allot better than strigi Richard From dreadgeek at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 00:44:06 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:44:06 -0700 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710101649.18872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101649.18872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> I found that Strigi slowed my system down to a painful degree. I installed Beagle and Kerry but found that they would tend to hang my system up. There's now a port of Google Desktop for Linux which I installed yesterday and, so far, I'm very pleased with it. Cheers Aj -- Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. (Douglas Adams -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lists at ptfd.org Thu Oct 11 00:59:13 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:59:13 -0400 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101649.18872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 08:44:06 pm Adrienne J Davis wrote: > I found that Strigi slowed my system down to a painful degree. I installed > Beagle and Kerry but found that they would tend to hang my system up. > There's now a port of Google Desktop for Linux which I installed yesterday > and, so far, I'm very pleased with it. > Not in teh repos.. Mike From macariov at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 01:08:24 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:08:24 -0400 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101649.18872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <1192064904.7643.2.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 20:59 -0400, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 08:44:06 pm Adrienne J Davis wrote: > > I found that Strigi slowed my system down to a painful degree. I installed > > Beagle and Kerry but found that they would tend to hang my system up. > > There's now a port of Google Desktop for Linux which I installed yesterday > > and, so far, I'm very pleased with it. > > > Not in teh repos.. > > Mike > no, but it is easy to install once you download it from : http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/install.html?dl=deb From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Thu Oct 11 01:52:39 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:39 -0400 Subject: mgetty fax manager enquiries Message-ID: <1192067559.5271.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Oct. 10, 2007 Hi, my name is Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc. I read most of the queries and answers on this list and copy those I think important to learn. This is very good... The more I go the more I enjoy Ubuntu. Evolution is great for Email ! Here is my problem. I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). >From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) package. I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen installed . the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile to specify installation paths . I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what to do to configure and start mgetty to run. All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real configuration? I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? Thanking you in advance Denis Gaulin 2050gaulin at videotron.ca From dreadgeek at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 05:10:05 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:10:05 -0700 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710102210.09828.dreadgeek@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 05:59:13 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 08:44:06 pm Adrienne J Davis wrote: > > I found that Strigi slowed my system down to a painful degree. I > > installed Beagle and Kerry but found that they would tend to hang my > > system up. There's now a port of Google Desktop for Linux which I > > installed yesterday and, so far, I'm very pleased with it. > > Not in teh repos.. > > Mike Mike: go to: http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/install.html?dl=deb then just install it with dpkg -i (or in Konqueror just right click and select the Install Package from the context menu) Cheers Aj -- A good bookshop is just a genteel Black Hole that knows how to read. (Terry Pratchett Guards! Guards!) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Thu Oct 11 08:36:42 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:36:42 +0300 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020854.20392.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <9e11f640710020113u11f460a5l8a13817034826904@mail.gmail.com> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> On the whole issue of gnome removal: A clean way of maintaining your system is this: keep track of every install operation :) I have a file where I paste output of every apt-get install/remove/autoremove operation for this. An alternative way is relying on autoremove feature of apt-get, but it may only work when you use apt-get exclusively. Aptitude must have a feature like this (even before apt-get got it). I am not sure how well the Adept is developed and whether it integrates with either of the mentioned programs in this respect. "apt-get --purge remove packagename" command will not help you: the only difference with simple remove is, that it ALSO deletes the configuration files that you might have changed after install (so it purges the customized settings of the program). There might be some complicated way of removing all the dependences of a metapackage, but it must really be complicated. You have to write a shell script that will: 1. List all packages in a metapackage like ubuntu-desktop and dependencies of those included packages 2. Substract from that list the packages that are included in the metapackages you want to keep (I am not sure, but there may be packages shared by both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop) 3. apply "apt-get remove" to the resulting list. If anyone wrote such script, I would invite him/her for beer for sure! But till then, and since I don't really trust "apt-get autoremove", I write logs :) Donatas Glodenis P.S. Could anyone tell me whether I could make apt-get log it's operations automatically? From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 08:52:01 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (Lantiero Zenesi) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:52:01 +0200 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> Message-ID: <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> > On the whole issue of gnome removal: > [...] Maybe this page can help? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome -- lanzen From dgvirtual at akl.lt Thu Oct 11 09:03:56 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:03:56 +0300 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071011090356.GB19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:52:01AM +0200, Lantiero Zenesi wrote: > > > On the whole issue of gnome removal: > > [...] > > Maybe this page can help? > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome > This just shows the helplessness of the situation. :) However, I got an idea on particularly the problem of the original poster: If anyone who has the same os version and DOES NOT HAVE ubuntu-desktop and no other gtk/gnome programme installed, posted to the forum the output of command apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop the original poster would have an idea what he should put on the string apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop .... to get rid of all of gnome. The one who is trying to help does not need to install ubuntu-desktop to help the poster, since apt-get will ask him, whether to continue with the install operation. Anyone willing to help? I guess, the same could be achieved by trying to execute this command from the kubuntu desktop live cd... Donatas From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu Oct 11 09:15:50 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:15:50 +0100 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <20071011090356.GB19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <20071011090356.GB19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> Message-ID: <470DE9C6.4080203@tiscali.co.uk> Donatas G. wrote: > However, I got an idea on particularly the problem of the original poster: > > If anyone who has the same os version and DOES NOT HAVE ubuntu-desktop and no other gtk/gnome programme installed, posted to the forum the output of > command > apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop > the original poster would have an idea what he should put on the string > > apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop .... > > to get rid of all of gnome. The one who is trying to help does not need to install ubuntu-desktop to help the poster, since apt-get will ask him, > whether to continue with the install operation. > > Anyone willing to help? > > I guess, the same could be achieved by trying to execute this command from the kubuntu desktop live cd... > > Donatas No need to install it: wulfy at localhost:~$ apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop Package: ubuntu-desktop Priority: optional Section: metapackages Installed-Size: 44 Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman Architecture: i386 Source: ubuntu-meta Version: 1.43 Depends: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, alacarte, anacron, apmd, avahi-autoipd, avahi-daemon, bc, cdparanoia, cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client, cupsys-driver-gutenprint, dc, dcraw, desktop-effects, desktop-file-utils, doc-base, dvd+rw-tools, eog, esound, evince, evolution-webcal, file-roller, foo2zjs, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters, fortune-mod, gcalctool, gconf-editor, gdebi, gdm, gedit, genisoimage, gimp-python, gnome-about, gnome-app-install, gnome-applets, gnome-btdownload, gnome-control-center, gnome-cups-manager, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring-manager, gnome-media, gnome-menus, gnome-netstatus-applet, gnome-nettool, gnome-panel, gnome-pilot-conduits, gnome-power-manager, gnome-session, gnome-spell, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-system-tools, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes, gnome-utils, gnome-volume-manager, gs-esp-x, gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps, gthumb, gtk2-engines, gtk2-engines-pixbuf, gucharmap, hal, hal-device-manager, hotkey-setup, hwdb-client-gnome, language-selector, lftp, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglut3, libgnome2-perl, libgnomevfs2-bin, libgnomevfs2-extra, libnss-mdns, libpam-foreground, libpt-plugins-v4l, libpt-plugins-v4l2, libsasl2-modules, libstdc++5, libxp6, metacity, min12xxw, nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, nautilus-sendto, notification-daemon, openprinting-ppds, pnm2ppa, powermanagement-interface, readahead, rss-glx, screen, screensaver-default-images, scrollkeeper, serpentine, slocate, smbclient, sound-juicer, ssh-askpass-gnome, synaptic, tangerine-icon-theme, tango-icon-theme, tango-icon-theme-common, tsclient, ttf-bitstream-vera, ttf-dejavu, ttf-freefont, ubuntu-artwork, ubuntu-sounds, unzip, update-notifier, usplash, usplash-theme-ubuntu, vino, wodim, wvdial, x-ttcidfont-conf, xkb-data, xorg, xsane, xscreensaver-data, xscreensaver-gl, xterm, xvncviewer, yelp, zenity, zip Recommends: apport-gtk, bluez-cups, bluez-pin, bluez-utils, brltty, brltty-x11, bug-buddy, contact-lookup-applet, deskbar-applet, diveintopython, ekiga, espeak, evolution, evolution-exchange, evolution-plugins, example-content, f-spot, firefox, firefox-gnome-support, gaim, gcc, gimp, gimp-print, gnome-accessibility-themes, gnome-games, gnome-mag, gnome-orca, gnome-screensaver, gnome-user-guide, hplip, landscape-client, linux-headers-generic, make, network-manager-gnome, onboard, openoffice.org, openoffice.org-evolution, openoffice.org-gnome, powernowd, restricted-manager, rhythmbox, scim, scim-gtk2-immodule, scim-tables-additional, tomboy, totem, totem-mozilla, ttf-arabeyes, ttf-arphic-ukai, ttf-arphic-uming, ttf-baekmuk, ttf-gentium, ttf-indic-fonts, ttf-kochi-gothic, ttf-kochi-mincho, ttf-lao, ttf-malayalam-fonts, ttf-mgopen, ttf-thai-tlwg, ubuntu-docs, xcursor-themes These are all the packages that ubuntu-desktop depends upon. Some may be depended upon by other packages, but if so, trying to remove them will, of course, fail. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Thu Oct 11 10:14:03 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:14:03 +0300 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: <470DE9C6.4080203@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <20071011090356.GB19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <470DE9C6.4080203@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071011101402.GC19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:15:50AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: > Donatas G. wrote: > > However, I got an idea on particularly the problem of the original poster: > > > > If anyone who has the same os version and DOES NOT HAVE ubuntu-desktop and no other gtk/gnome programme installed, posted to the forum the output of > > command > > apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop > > the original poster would have an idea what he should put on the string > > > > apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop .... > > > > to get rid of all of gnome. The one who is trying to help does not need to install ubuntu-desktop to help the poster, since apt-get will ask him, > > whether to continue with the install operation. > > > > Anyone willing to help? > > > > I guess, the same could be achieved by trying to execute this command from the kubuntu desktop live cd... > > > > Donatas > No need to install it: > > wulfy at localhost:~$ apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop > Package: ubuntu-desktop > Priority: optional > Section: metapackages > Installed-Size: 44 > Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman > Architecture: i386 > Source: ubuntu-meta > Version: 1.43 > Depends: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, alacarte, anacron, apmd, > avahi-autoipd, avahi-daemon, bc, cdparanoia, cupsys, cupsys-bsd, > cupsys-client, cupsys-driver-gutenprint, dc, dcraw, desktop-effects, > ..... If you get dependency list this way, you see ALL dependencies, while you only need dependencies, that are specific to ubuntu-desktop and not the core system and kubuntu-desktop. You can see that the too many of the packages listed are not specific to ubuntu-desktop (like: acpi*, avahi-*, cupsys* ...) > These are all the packages that ubuntu-desktop depends upon. Some may > be depended upon by other packages, but if so, trying to remove them > will, of course, fail. Not so sure; I guess in some cases it could try to remove both these packages and the packages that these packages depend upon. You might end up without any desktop manager if you try to remove all of these packages. Moreover, there is no easy way to find out, which packages are the ones that only ubuntu-desktop and not some other needed meta package depends upon. Carefull!!! Now, if you could make up a script that takes the list produced by apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop and substract from it the packages also in the list produced by apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop to get a list that is more ubuntu-desktop specific, you might be up to something! Still, I am afraid that it would not be enough (since there could be other metapackages that need to be substracted that I am not aware off), but if somebody knows enough bash, awk, diff, sed and other CLI tools and would like to give it a try - great, I think he could do a lot of service to the kubuntu/ubuntu community this way. Donatas Glodenis From Bahiliah at yandex.ru Thu Oct 11 12:52:04 2007 From: Bahiliah at yandex.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4sHIzdXU08vJyiDpzNjR?=) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:52:04 +0400 Subject: Can't remove gnome install. In-Reply-To: 9040000000088191442 References: <200710012244.41069.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <200710020925.20411.prlewis@letterboxes.org> <20071011083642.GA19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <200710111052.01287.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <20071011090356.GB19191@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> <470DE9C6.4080203@tiscali.co.uk> 9040000000088191442 Message-ID: <57121192107124@webmail10.yandex.ru> May be: aptitude install -sfy (http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Aptitude_-_using_together_with_Synaptic_and_Apt-get) then aptitude purge -s ubuntu-desktop fnd if all fine aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop. Also you keep or hold specific pakages. 11.10.07, 14:14, Donatas G. (dgvirtual at akl.lt): > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:15:50AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: > > Donatas G. wrote: > > > However, I got an idea on particularly the problem of the original poster: > > > > > > If anyone who has the same os version and DOES NOT HAVE ubuntu-desktop and no other gtk/gnome programme installed, posted to the forum the output of > > > command > > > apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop > > > the original poster would have an idea what he should put on the string > > > > > > apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop .... > > > > > > to get rid of all of gnome. The one who is trying to help does not need to install ubuntu-desktop to help the poster, since apt-get will ask him, > > > whether to continue with the install operation. > > > > > > Anyone willing to help? > > > > > > I guess, the same could be achieved by trying to execute this command from the kubuntu desktop live cd... > > > > > > Donatas > > No need to install it: > > > > wulfy at localhost:~$ apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop > > Package: ubuntu-desktop > > Priority: optional > > Section: metapackages > > Installed-Size: 44 > > Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman > > Architecture: i386 > > Source: ubuntu-meta > > Version: 1.43 > > Depends: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, alacarte, anacron, apmd, > > avahi-autoipd, avahi-daemon, bc, cdparanoia, cupsys, cupsys-bsd, > > cupsys-client, cupsys-driver-gutenprint, dc, dcraw, desktop-effects, > > ..... > If you get dependency list this way, you see ALL dependencies, while you only need dependencies, that are specific to ubuntu-desktop and not the core > system and kubuntu-desktop. You can see that the too many of the packages listed are not specific to ubuntu-desktop (like: acpi*, avahi-*, > cupsys* ...) > > These are all the packages that ubuntu-desktop depends upon. Some may > > be depended upon by other packages, but if so, trying to remove them > > will, of course, fail. > Not so sure; I guess in some cases it could try to remove both these packages and the packages that these packages depend upon. You might end up > without any desktop manager if you try to remove all of these packages. Moreover, there is no easy way to find out, which packages are the ones that only ubuntu-desktop and not some other needed meta package depends upon. > Carefull!!! > Now, if you could make up a script that takes the list produced by > apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop > and substract from it the packages also in the list produced by > apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop > to get a list that is more ubuntu-desktop specific, you might be up to something! Still, I am afraid that it would not be enough (since there could > be other metapackages that need to be substracted that I am not aware off), but if somebody knows enough bash, awk, diff, sed and other CLI tools > and would like to give it a try - great, I think he could do a lot of service to the kubuntu/ubuntu community this way. > Donatas Glodenis -- Яндекс.Фотки - заливай свои, любуйся чужими! http://fotki.yandex.ru/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Oct 11 15:06:29 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:06:29 +0200 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> Knapp wrote: > Hello all, my DVD is saying that disked burned on windows are blank. They > are not. The player works fine with store move DVDs and it works fine with > DVDs that it makes and my 2 other computers use the disks well too. Any > ideas? I would really like to read this disk. It has my wedding pictures on > it! > Douglas > > Is it a Vista box? I ask because I remember reading that by default, Vista burns using a Windows proprietary format rather than the normal iso9960 HTH Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 16:04:00 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:00 +0200 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. In-Reply-To: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> References: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: No, but thanks for the insight! I was starting to think that this post did not make it the list. Could it be from an XP update? Also if that were the case would the disk read as blank or just unreadable? Douglas On 10/11/07, Nigel Ridley wrote: > > Knapp wrote: > > Hello all, my DVD is saying that disked burned on windows are blank. > They > > are not. The player works fine with store move DVDs and it works fine > with > > DVDs that it makes and my 2 other computers use the disks well too. Any > > ideas? I would really like to read this disk. It has my wedding pictures > on > > it! > > Douglas > > > > > Is it a Vista box? I ask because I remember reading that by default, > Vista burns using a Windows proprietary format rather than the normal > iso9960 > > HTH > > Nigel > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Thu Oct 11 17:27:18 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:27:18 -0500 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710111227.20024.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Nils wrote: > > Do you know which type your new NIC is? What is the output of the lspci > command? Maybe the kernel module for the new NIC is not automatically > loaded or maybe it needs ndiswrapper to work. Here is the relevent lspci output: 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 81) I looked through the lib/modules/2.6.15-28 directory & did not find anything for intel, or even the 'natsemi' module that has often worked for me when I could not find the specific one. Here is the kernel module list. (I haven't had to dig this deep in years, I don't think.): Module Size Used by i915 20608 1 drm 73236 2 i915 rfcomm 40216 0 l2cap 26244 5 rfcomm bluetooth 50020 4 rfcomm,l2cap ppdev 9220 0 speedstep_lib 4484 0 cpufreq_powersave 1920 0 cpufreq_conservative 7332 0 cpufreq_stats 5636 0 freq_table 4740 1 cpufreq_stats cpufreq_ondemand 6428 0 cpufreq_userspace 4696 0 acpi_sbs 19980 0 tc1100_wmi 6916 0 battery 9988 1 acpi_sbs hotkey 11556 0 video 16260 0 button 6672 0 container 4608 0 pcc_acpi 12416 0 dev_acpi 11140 0 sony_acpi 5644 0 i2c_acpi_ec 5120 1 acpi_sbs ac 5252 1 acpi_sbs ppp_deflate 6272 1 zlib_deflate 24344 1 ppp_deflate bsd_comp 6272 0 ppp_async 11904 1 crc_ccitt 2304 1 ppp_async ipv6 265856 12 ppp_generic 30100 7 ppp_deflate,bsd_comp,ppp_async slhc 7424 1 ppp_generic nls_utf8 2176 1 ntfs 103536 1 dm_mod 58936 1 md_mod 72532 0 sbp2 24196 0 scsi_mod 139496 1 sbp2 ieee1394 299832 1 sbp2 lp 11844 0 tsdev 8000 0 e100 40580 0 mii 5888 1 e100 parport_pc 35780 1 parport 36296 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc pcspkr 2180 0 snd_intel8x0 33692 1 snd_ac97_codec 93216 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_bus 2304 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss 53664 0 snd_mixer_oss 18688 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 89864 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25220 1 snd_pcm snd 55268 8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 10208 1 snd i2c_i810 5252 0 snd_page_alloc 10632 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm i2c_algo_bit 9608 1 i2c_i810 psmouse 36100 0 i2c_core 21904 2 i2c_acpi_ec,i2c_algo_bit serio_raw 7300 0 usbhid 39904 0 floppy 62148 0 hw_random 5652 0 shpchp 45632 0 pci_hotplug 29236 1 shpchp rtc 13492 0 intel_agp 22940 1 agpgart 34888 3 drm,intel_agp evdev 9856 1 ext3 135944 2 jbd 58772 1 ext3 ide_generic 1536 0 ehci_hcd 34184 0 uhci_hcd 33808 0 usbcore 130820 4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd ide_cd 33028 2 cdrom 38560 1 ide_cd ide_disk 17664 5 piix 11012 1 generic 5124 0 thermal 13576 0 processor 23360 1 thermal fan 4868 0 capability 5000 0 commoncap 7296 1 capability vga16fb 13704 1 vgastate 10368 1 vga16fb fbcon 42784 72 tileblit 2816 1 fbcon font 8320 1 fbcon bitblit 6272 1 fbcon softcursor 2304 1 bitblit Many thanks... ...CH From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Oct 11 17:34:33 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:34:33 -0400 Subject: recent gutsy updates broke my pam config (maybe) Message-ID: <200710111334.33903.art.alexion@verizon.net> I have been running gutsy for a month or two without insurmountable problems ... until this past weekend's updates. After a kernel update I rebooted. Now I can't log into KDE, and I am having problems in the console; specifcally cifs errors , CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13 mount error 13 = permission denied ... [manpage info (manpage not really helpful here)] ... pmvarrun: creating /var/run/pam-mountpmvarrun parsed count value 0 When I try to log onto KDE I get a small, non-KDE dialog informing me that kstartupconfig would not start. Dismissing it by hitting OK results in X restarting. When I try to run kstartupconfig from a console I get trying to create local folder /home/art/.kde/share: permission denied repeated 4 times. Even though the owners of ~/.kde are art:art and the permissions are drwx------ I don't have permission to browse as regular user. I think the recent pam updates broke the changes I had made with sadms to configure a domain login. I made backups of the files I edited in /etc/pam.d, but I don't want to restore them unless I can't otherwise fix this. Anyone else with the same problem or any ideas? From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Thu Oct 11 18:06:55 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:06:55 -0500 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710111306.55714.yogich7230@sc2000.net> > > I move my Debian and Ubuntu hard drives from my computer at home to > a couple of computers at the local computer club. What I found is > that I have a configuration for each different location in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. All I did was copy the one from my > home machine using DHCP setup and then labeled them eth1, eth2, etc. > have no problem at all. I think that the ethx is based on the MAC > address. A different eth for each MAC address. I've never moved the > card with the disk from computer to computer to test my theory > though > I would appreciate a bit more info on this. I have never done this. I think what I really need is to cause the machine to invoke another configuration process for the network card, and that isn't happening. I'm just now sure what to do to cause it to happen. I was under the mistaken impression that it would be automatic but, of course, it wasn't, or I wouldn't be begging. lol From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Oct 11 18:29:14 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:29:14 +0100 Subject: recent gutsy updates broke my pam config (maybe) In-Reply-To: <200710111334.33903.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710111334.33903.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <470E6B7A.2070606@stdin.me.uk> Art Alexion wrote: > I have been running gutsy for a month or two without insurmountable > problems ... until this past weekend's updates. > > After a kernel update I rebooted. Now I can't log into KDE, and I am having > problems in the console; specifcally cifs errors , > > CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13 > mount error 13 = permission denied > ... > [manpage info (manpage not really helpful here)] > ... > pmvarrun: creating /var/run/pam-mountpmvarrun parsed count value 0 > > > When I try to log onto KDE I get a small, non-KDE dialog informing me that > kstartupconfig would not start. Dismissing it by hitting OK results in X > restarting. > > When I try to run kstartupconfig from a console I get > trying to create local folder /home/art/.kde/share: permission denied > repeated 4 times. > > Even though the owners of ~/.kde are art:art and the permissions are > drwx------ > I don't have permission to browse as regular user. > > I think the recent pam updates broke the changes I had made with sadms to > configure a domain login. I made backups of the files I edited > in /etc/pam.d, but I don't want to restore them unless I can't otherwise fix > this. > > Anyone else with the same problem or any ideas? > > Make sure the permissions of ~/.kde/share are the same? Try this from a text login: sudo chown -R art: /home/art/.kde I'm running fully updated Gutsy and haven't had any errors like that. Terence Simpson From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Oct 11 19:28:20 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:28:20 -0400 Subject: recent gutsy updates broke my pam config (maybe) In-Reply-To: <470E6B7A.2070606@stdin.me.uk> References: <200710111334.33903.art.alexion@verizon.net> <470E6B7A.2070606@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200710111528.20230.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 11 October 2007 14:29, Terence Simpson wrote: > > When I try to log onto KDE I get a small, non-KDE dialog informing me > > that kstartupconfig would not start.  Dismissing it by hitting OK results > > in X restarting. > > > > When I try to run kstartupconfig from a console I get > >       trying to create local folder /home/art/.kde/share: permission > > denied repeated 4 times. > > > > Even though the owners of ~/.kde are art:art and the permissions are > >       drwx------ > > I don't have permission to browse as regular user. > > > > I think the recent pam updates broke the changes I had made with sadms to > > configure a domain login.  I made backups of the files I edited > > in /etc/pam.d, but I don't want to restore them unless I can't otherwise > > fix this. > > > > Anyone else with the same problem or any ideas? > > > >   > > Make sure the permissions of ~/.kde/share are the same? Try this from a > text login: > sudo chown -R art: /home/art/.kde Ouch. That made things worse. I think with the winbind/pam/AD changes, there are 2 arts on this computer: art (local) and art at rhd.org. Now I can't log in as art (art at rhd.org) because I don't have permissions. I can log in as the domain administrator OK, so the AD setup is not hosed. It is just my user directories and subdirectories. I don't mind blowing /home/art/ out if it would work. Nothing there I don't have elsewhere. What are the ramifications? From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de Thu Oct 11 19:50:49 2007 From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:50:49 +0200 Subject: Upgrading my motherboard & processor In-Reply-To: <200710072226.52782.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> References: <200709231841.11543.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <200709301526.41465.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <200710072226.52782.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: <200710112150.49840.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de> On Sunday 07 October 2007 22:26:51 Laurent Asorne wrote: > Hi! The reason why I didn't write to my topic is that I found out that the > nVidia 250 chipset on the mainboard is not the graphics chipset (as I first > thought), but the main chipset of the board. The description of the > maionboard does not tell a single word about the graphics chipset... I'll > google around to find out about that and tell you later! > > Laurent > > -- > The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX The board doesn't have a "graphcis chipset". nForce3 250Gb simply connects all the components, but you still have to install a video board. Stick in your old Riva and it should work fine. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de Thu Oct 11 20:01:12 2007 From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:01:12 +0200 Subject: realtek 8187 wifi and wpa in 2.6.22 backport Message-ID: <200710112201.12982.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de> Got a Netgear wg111v2, Realtek 8187 chipset. Works in Feisty out of the box. Now I had to upgrade the kernel, backported the gutsy kernel to feisty, works alright, now today found to my surprise that the gutsy kernel src does *NOT* have the backported 8187 module feisty has. (Reasons for this are beyond me.) So I grabbed the aircrack-ng driver pack and installed their 8187 module, which works so far, but I can't access WPA, only WEP. knetworkmanger doesn't even offer WPA. the wireless tools complained about version, so I backported those from gutsy, too, along with iwlib29. Still no go. Scans APs alright but I can't go WPA. Pointers? -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com From kassube at gmx.net Thu Oct 11 21:45:08 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:45:08 +0200 Subject: Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710111227.20024.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710111227.20024.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710112345.09029.kassube@gmx.net> 7230 wrote: > Nils wrote: > > Do you know which type your new NIC is? What is the output of the > > lspci command? Maybe the kernel module for the new NIC is not > > automatically loaded or maybe it needs ndiswrapper to work. > > Here is the relevent lspci output: > > 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE > (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 81) > > I looked through the lib/modules/2.6.15-28 directory & did not find > anything for intel, or even the 'natsemi' module that has often worked > for me when I could not find the specific one. > > Here is the kernel module list. (I haven't had to dig this deep in > years, I don't think.): > Module Size Used by > e100 40580 0 It looks like the right module is loaded. At least I would expect the e100 to be the right one. You could find out if there is any NIC available with the command "ifconfig -a" which will also give you the name. Nils From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 22:50:27 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:50:27 -0500 Subject: Kerry ? In-Reply-To: <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710092334.14394.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710101744.11499.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <200710102059.13777.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710111750.27256.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 07:59:13 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 08:44:06 pm Adrienne J Davis wrote: > > I found that Strigi slowed my system down to a painful degree. I > > installed Beagle and Kerry but found that they would tend to hang my > > system up. There's now a port of Google Desktop for Linux which I > > installed yesterday and, so far, I'm very pleased with it. > > Not in teh repos.. > > Mike Go to the following page and follow the directions: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ you'll get google's repos, and their certificate. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 00:10:21 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:10:21 -0600 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty Message-ID: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> I just installed a better LCD monitor on my wife's system. Unfortunately, although Windows has quite happily reset the resolution to 1280x1024, feisty keeps insisting that X is producing an error whenever I press "Test" in the KDE configuration tool. I installed the binary ATI driver, but that made no difference Details: Graphics card (according to KDE Monitor & Display | System Settings): ATI Radeon (fglrx) Monitor is a ViewSonic VX724 When I run the Test after trying to set the mode to be 1280x1024 (60Hz), I get the following, no matter what I do: ---- Sorry, this configuration video card driver and monitor doesn't appear to work. Messages from the X server: Fatal server error: ---- (No there's no cut-and-paste error there, the actual 'Fatal server error' is not displayed.) Since this is my wife's first interaction with Linux, she is understandably unimpressed. Any idea what I need to do to fix this? From dhcolesj at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 00:15:30 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:15:30 -0500 Subject: Compiz-Fusion Settings in KDE Message-ID: <200710111915.30718.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Before I submit a bug (if there's not one out there already) I wanted to ask on the list if anyone else had a problem: I can start Compiz-Fusion and the icon shows up in my sys tray, but when I right click and select "settings manager" nothing happens. After starting "fusion-icon" from within konsole this is what I get: * Using the Qt4 Interface * Searching for installed applications... /usr/bin/compiz.real /usr/local/bin/ccsm /usr/bin/compiz /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator /usr/bin/kde-window-decorator /usr/bin/emerald /usr/bin/metacity /usr/bin/kwin * kde session * nvidia found, exporting: __GL_YIELD="NOTHING" * Executing: compiz.real --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/ccsm", line 45, in idle = ccm.IdleSettingsParser(context) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 229, in __init__ self.Context.Plugins.items ()) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 228, in self.PluginList = filter (lambda p: FilterPlugin (p[1]), File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 225, in FilterPlugin return not p.Initialized and p.Enabled AttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized' NOTE the line that starts with "Traceback (most recent call last)" That's what I get when I try to start settings manager. Am I missing some Python package, or is this a real bug? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Oct 12 01:54:15 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:54:15 -0400 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 11 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > I just installed a better LCD monitor on my wife's system. I had a similar problem when I switched from a 15" CRT to a 19" LCD. It would only run at 640x480, I think. I can't remember enough details to give a solution, but I do recall that the magic happened when I twiddled something in this section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 28-64 VertRefresh 43-60 EndSection If your settings differ, you might try pasting that snippet above, as it's for a 19" monitor at 1280x1024. (I have no idea how to do anything like this through a GUI, or if it's even possible. Nor, for that matter, am I at all certain what I'm talking about is really your problem.) -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Oct 12 01:56:44 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:56:44 -0400 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. In-Reply-To: References: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200710112156.44284.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 11 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > No, but thanks for the insight! I was starting to think that this post did > not make it the list. Could it be from an XP update? Also if that were the > case would the disk read as blank or just unreadable? You can usually tell if a disc is really blank by looking at it, and holding it at an angle to the light. Burnt areas look slightly different from blank areas, and the more of the capacity you've used, the more obvious it is to see. I've run into situations where the discs really *were* blank. -- D. Michael McIntyre From k7qo at commspeed.net Fri Oct 12 02:12:16 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:12:16 -0700 Subject: Evolution signatures Message-ID: <1192155136.23248.180.camel@kubuntu7.04> Gang, I have searched but to no avail found the info that I need to automatically generate the signature at the end of a new email or reply. I have to use the pull-down menu in Evolution to create the signature from the signature file. Any way to reduce the workload on this? TIA Chuck -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ personal web page Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water. My 15 minutes of fame: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119161604206850468.html?mod=edits From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Oct 12 02:29:38 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:29:38 -0400 Subject: Evolution signatures In-Reply-To: <1192155136.23248.180.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1192155136.23248.180.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <200710112229.38177.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 11 October 2007, adams wrote: >Gang, > >I have searched but to no avail found the info that I need >to automatically generate the signature at the end of a new >email or reply. I have to use the pull-down menu in Evolution >to create the signature from the signature file. > >Any way to reduce the workload on this? > Look at 'fortune'. I have a cron job that generates it new every 5 minutes, & kmail just appends the file. >TIA > >Chuck > > >-- >Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net >http://www.k7qo.net/ personal web page > >Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water. > >My 15 minutes of fame: >http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119161604206850468.html?mod=edits -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The meek shall inherit the earth; the rest of us will go to the stars. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Fri Oct 12 02:36:18 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:36:18 -0500 Subject: [SOLVED] Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710112136.19032.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Thanks for all the tips, people... I got my interface back. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 02:52:06 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:52:06 -0400 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <470EE156.4010806@gmail.com> On Thursday 11 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > > I just installed a better LCD monitor on my wife's system. > > > I had no end of problems with 640x480 resolution on some Dells. Turned out there was a BIOS setting reserving memory for video that had to be twiddled. stew From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Fri Oct 12 04:37:17 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:37:17 -0600 Subject: Wireless PCMCIA or USB recommendations Message-ID: <200710112237.17458.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi list; I have a friend who bought an HP laptop with a built-in broadcom chip. We wiped the pile of rubbish referred to as vista off the laptop and put Kubuntu on it. Of course the wireless (a broadcom built in) didn't work so I installed the ndiswrapper. It seemed to work fine at first but then over the next few weeks ndiswrapper started to crash more and more often. My son hapened to bring it up while talking to a windows tech support geek and he said that the wireless chips in most of the vista laptops have been engineered specifically (and exclusively) for the load of rubbish referred to as vista, so it doesn't play nice with any other OS by design. I don't know for sure if this is true but I do know that ndiswrapper is crashing a lot and the owner of this laptop is a linux newbie which makes things worse. I wonder, can anyone make a recommendation for a wireless PCMCIA or wireless USB device that will play nice with kubuntu and be reliable? Thanks in advance... From manchicken at notsosoft.net Fri Oct 12 04:47:04 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken at notsosoft.net) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:47:04 +0000 Subject: Wireless PCMCIA or USB recommendations In-Reply-To: <200710112237.17458.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200710112237.17458.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <1266001075-1192164423-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-291093789-@bxe120.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Two things: what broadcom you got? 4318 works for me with Linuxant. I'd go pcmcia if I were you. Usb ports are better used for other devices, and usb seems to be super slow. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Kempter Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:37:17 To:Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: Wireless PCMCIA or USB recommendations Hi list; I have a friend who bought an HP laptop with a built-in broadcom chip. We wiped the pile of rubbish referred to as vista off the laptop and put Kubuntu on it. Of course the wireless (a broadcom built in) didn't work so I installed the ndiswrapper. It seemed to work fine at first but then over the next few weeks ndiswrapper started to crash more and more often. My son hapened to bring it up while talking to a windows tech support geek and he said that the wireless chips in most of the vista laptops have been engineered specifically (and exclusively) for the load of rubbish referred to as vista, so it doesn't play nice with any other OS by design. I don't know for sure if this is true but I do know that ndiswrapper is crashing a lot and the owner of this laptop is a linux newbie which makes things worse. I wonder, can anyone make a recommendation for a wireless PCMCIA or wireless USB device that will play nice with kubuntu and be reliable? Thanks in advance... -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 04:54:07 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:54:07 +0200 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. In-Reply-To: <200710112156.44284.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> <200710112156.44284.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: No, I have tried about 20 disks that were all burned. I have used disks burned by 2 different people and all have this problem. Thanks. Douglas On 10/12/07, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > On Thursday 11 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > > > No, but thanks for the insight! I was starting to think that this post > did > > not make it the list. Could it be from an XP update? Also if that were > the > > case would the disk read as blank or just unreadable? > > You can usually tell if a disc is really blank by looking at it, and > holding > it at an angle to the light. Burnt areas look slightly different from > blank > areas, and the more of the capacity you've used, the more obvious it is to > see. > > I've run into situations where the discs really *were* blank. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My son hapened to bring > it up while talking to a windows tech support geek and he said that the > wireless chips in most of the vista laptops have been engineered > specifically (and exclusively) for the load of rubbish referred to as > vista, so it doesn't play nice with any other OS by design. I don't know > for sure if this is true but I do know that ndiswrapper is crashing a lot > and the owner of this laptop is a linux newbie which makes things worse. > > I wonder, can anyone make a recommendation for a wireless PCMCIA or > wireless USB device that will play nice with kubuntu and be reliable? > > > Thanks in advance... I'm using a Netgear WG511T pcmcia with feisty. Works fine. From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Fri Oct 12 05:14:40 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:14:40 -0600 Subject: Wireless PCMCIA or USB recommendations In-Reply-To: <200710120111.51767.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200710112237.17458.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200710120111.51767.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200710112314.40642.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> On Thursday 11 October 2007 23:11:51 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday 12 October 2007, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi list; > > > > I have a friend who bought an HP laptop with a built-in broadcom chip. We > > wiped the pile of rubbish referred to as vista off the laptop and put > > Kubuntu on it. Of course the wireless (a broadcom built in) didn't work > > so I installed the ndiswrapper. > > > > It seemed to work fine at first but then over the next few weeks > > ndiswrapper started to crash more and more often. My son hapened to bring > > it up while talking to a windows tech support geek and he said that the > > wireless chips in most of the vista laptops have been engineered > > specifically (and exclusively) for the load of rubbish referred to as > > vista, so it doesn't play nice with any other OS by design. I don't know > > for sure if this is true but I do know that ndiswrapper is crashing a lot > > and the owner of this laptop is a linux newbie which makes things worse. > > > > I wonder, can anyone make a recommendation for a wireless PCMCIA or > > wireless USB device that will play nice with kubuntu and be reliable? > > > > > > Thanks in advance... > > I'm using a Netgear WG511T pcmcia with feisty. Works fine. Are you using ndiswrapper with this card? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Oct 12 05:47:50 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:47:50 -0400 Subject: Wireless PCMCIA or USB recommendations In-Reply-To: <200710112314.40642.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200710112237.17458.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200710120111.51767.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710112314.40642.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200710120147.50566.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 12 October 2007, Kevin Kempter wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2007 23:11:51 Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Friday 12 October 2007, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > > Hi list; > > > > > > I have a friend who bought an HP laptop with a built-in broadcom chip. > > > We wiped the pile of rubbish referred to as vista off the laptop and > > > put Kubuntu on it. Of course the wireless (a broadcom built in) didn't > > > work so I installed the ndiswrapper. > > > > > > It seemed to work fine at first but then over the next few weeks > > > ndiswrapper started to crash more and more often. My son hapened to > > > bring it up while talking to a windows tech support geek and he said > > > that the wireless chips in most of the vista laptops have been > > > engineered specifically (and exclusively) for the load of rubbish > > > referred to as vista, so it doesn't play nice with any other OS by > > > design. I don't know for sure if this is true but I do know that > > > ndiswrapper is crashing a lot and the owner of this laptop is a linux > > > newbie which makes things worse. > > > > > > I wonder, can anyone make a recommendation for a wireless PCMCIA or > > > wireless USB device that will play nice with kubuntu and be reliable? > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance... > > > > I'm using a Netgear WG511T pcmcia with feisty. Works fine. > > Are you using ndiswrapper with this card? No Its an atheros chip (I think) and runs as is. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 10/12/07 01:46 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Hell hath no fury like the lawyer of a woman scorned." From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Fri Oct 12 07:17:26 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent Asorne) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:17:26 +0200 Subject: SBLive! sound card not working properly Message-ID: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Hi there! Trouble: my SBLive Platinum card isn't working properly (see my posting to subject "Rosegarden"). Well, CD's and MP3's sounds are coming out all right, but there is no way to make it work for MIDI-files and for other external devices connected either to the mic-jack of the soundcard or the Linein-jack of the live!drive (front panel)... I've googled around but found nothing that helped me. I have no onboard sound, just this sound card. Kubuntu 7.04 running on an x86-machine with AMD K7 Processor (800MHz) and 512 MB Ram. Does anyone have an idea where i should look for help? Laurent Asorne -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From vineeth.chandran at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 09:49:22 2007 From: vineeth.chandran at gmail.com (vineeth.chandran at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:19:22 +0530 Subject: problems with wi-fi WG111v2 netgear dongle Message-ID: <63676fdd0710120249n2f60a615k2c2378dd8bcd2ee6@mail.gmail.com> Hi I have the wi-fi WG111v2 netgear dongle installed properly on Kubuntu machine. I have assigned it a static IP address and its able to get into the network. But when i reboot my machine with the dongle plugged in, and when the system is up the wi-fi seems to be dead. Light on the usb dongle does not blink and it cannot scan any wireless devices. Is there any problem with the drivers when i reboot my machine with the usb dongle plugged in? -- Vineeth Saraschandran Embedded software Developer Eaton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanya-spb at list.ru Fri Oct 12 10:23:47 2007 From: sanya-spb at list.ru (Alexander Kuprijanov) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:23:47 +0400 Subject: PC and Network emulator (like VMWare workstation) Message-ID: <200710121423.47319.sanya-spb@list.ru> Hello Does ubuntu have good PC emulator in repositores? I'm looking for application for testing PC-PC network interaction (BSD - BSD or BSD - Linux) In MS I've used VMWare for this. But I don't want install MS only for this job Thanks in advance (and sorry for my English ;) PS. I know about VMWare for Linux, but this last variant, if no any solves will be founded. -- Homo fidas, feliĉo decidas From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Oct 12 10:27:18 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:27:18 -0500 Subject: DVD not reading Window burned disks. In-Reply-To: <200710112156.44284.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <470E3BF5.3000907@rmk.co.il> <200710112156.44284.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <470F4C06.8010304@swbell.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2007, Knapp wrote: > >> No, but thanks for the insight! I was starting to think that this post did >> not make it the list. Could it be from an XP update? Also if that were the >> case would the disk read as blank or just unreadable? > > You can usually tell if a disc is really blank by looking at it, and holding > it at an angle to the light. Burnt areas look slightly different from blank > areas, and the more of the capacity you've used, the more obvious it is to > see. > > I've run into situations where the discs really *were* blank. Also, if Windows didn't "close" the disc you may not be able to read it in any drive other than the one you burned it in. This happens most when using r/rw disks. What happens if you put it back in the drive/OS/application that you used to burn it? -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 12 10:48:59 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:48:59 +0200 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 11 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > >> I just installed a better LCD monitor on my wife's system. > > I had a similar problem when I switched from a 15" CRT to a 19" LCD. It would > only run at 640x480, I think. > > I can't remember enough details to give a solution, but I do recall that the > magic happened when I twiddled something in this section > in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Generic Monitor" > Option "DPMS" > HorizSync 28-64 > VertRefresh 43-60 > EndSection > > > If your settings differ, you might try pasting that snippet above, as it's for > a 19" monitor at 1280x1024. > > (I have no idea how to do anything like this through a GUI, or if it's even > possible. Nor, for that matter, am I at all certain what I'm talking about > is really your problem.) First approach would probably be to re-run the automatic X-configuration. I looked that up on google for a problem I had yesterday. The following command reconfigures X: sudo pdkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg the -phigh causes to skip possible questions from the package configuration. If you want to provide more information to the configuration tool, use -plow instead of -phigh. -p means: priority of questions to ask. From guido.dom at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 10:55:36 2007 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:55:36 +0200 Subject: PC and Network emulator (like VMWare workstation) In-Reply-To: <200710121423.47319.sanya-spb@list.ru> References: <200710121423.47319.sanya-spb@list.ru> Message-ID: try VIRTUALBOX 2007/10/12, Alexander Kuprijanov : > > Hello > > Does ubuntu have good PC emulator in repositores? > > I'm looking for application for testing PC-PC network interaction (BSD - > BSD > or BSD - Linux) > > In MS I've used VMWare for this. But I don't want install MS only for this > job > > > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for my English ;) > > > > PS. I know about VMWare for Linux, but this last variant, if no any solves > will be founded. > > -- > Homo fidas, feliĉo decidas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 12 11:10:31 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:10:31 +0200 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> Message-ID: <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> Wrong spelling! Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> On Thursday 11 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: >> >>> I just installed a better LCD monitor on my wife's system. >> I had a similar problem when I switched from a 15" CRT to a 19" LCD. It would >> only run at 640x480, I think. >> >> I can't remember enough details to give a solution, but I do recall that the >> magic happened when I twiddled something in this section >> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: >> >> Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "Generic Monitor" >> Option "DPMS" >> HorizSync 28-64 >> VertRefresh 43-60 >> EndSection >> >> >> If your settings differ, you might try pasting that snippet above, as it's for >> a 19" monitor at 1280x1024. >> >> (I have no idea how to do anything like this through a GUI, or if it's even >> possible. Nor, for that matter, am I at all certain what I'm talking about >> is really your problem.) > > First approach would probably be to re-run the automatic > X-configuration. I looked that up on google for a problem I had > yesterday. The following command reconfigures X: > > sudo pdkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Is of course meant to be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org > > the -phigh causes to skip possible questions from the package > configuration. If you want to provide more information to the > configuration tool, use -plow instead of -phigh. -p means: priority of > questions to ask. > From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 12:39:59 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:39:59 -0500 Subject: PC and Network emulator (like VMWare workstation) In-Reply-To: References: <200710121423.47319.sanya-spb@list.ru> Message-ID: <720b310e0710120539sc8869b1pf75a56396b56cf31@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, guido dom wrote: > try VIRTUALBOX > > 2007/10/12, Alexander Kuprijanov : > > Hello > > > > Does ubuntu have good PC emulator in repositores? > > > > I'm looking for application for testing PC-PC network interaction (BSD - > BSD > > or BSD - Linux) > > > > In MS I've used VMWare for this. But I don't want install MS only for this > job > > > > Thanks in advance (and sorry for my English ;) > > > > PS. I know about VMWare for Linux, but this last variant, if no any solves > > will be founded. > > -- > > Homo fidas, feliĉo decidas > Guido (dompie) Dom > -- VirtualBox is AWESOME but the networking piece is rough if you want to do bridged networking. I've found good howto's ( listed below ) but still have to set the network up manually every time I boot the computer. Luckily I rarely reboot so I go weeks ( if not months ) without having to mess with it. The NAT networking solution works like a charm. http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Automatic_Bridge_Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox Greg From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 13:28:58 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:28:58 -0400 Subject: SBLive! sound card not working properly In-Reply-To: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> References: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: On 10/12/07, Laurent Asorne wrote: > > Hi there! Trouble: my SBLive Platinum card isn't working properly (see my > posting to subject "Rosegarden"). Well, CD's and MP3's sounds are coming > out > all right, but there is no way to make it work for MIDI-files and for > other > external devices connected either to the mic-jack of the soundcard or the > Linein-jack of the live!drive (front panel)... I've googled around but > found > nothing that helped me. I have no onboard sound, just this sound card. > Kubuntu 7.04 running on an x86-machine with AMD K7 Processor (800MHz) and > 512 > MB Ram. > > Does anyone have an idea where i should look for help? > Laurent Asorne > -- > The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX I suggest you Install Alsa and configure the sound card with it. I had the same problem years ago and Alsa fixed it. > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 13:47:09 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:47:09 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question Message-ID: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I have never needed > 1 user on my Kubuntu machine, but today I am trying to set one up. I have created a new user called "M". The question is how do I prevent M from being able to sudo into root by using her password? I am user "D" and I want only my password to allow sudo to work. Sorry if this is a faq ... \d From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 12 14:06:55 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:06:55 -0400 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 12 October 2007 09:47, Donn wrote: > Hi, > I have never needed > 1 user on my Kubuntu machine, but today I am trying > to set one up. I have created a new user called "M". The question is how do > I prevent M from being able to sudo into root by using her password? I am > user "D" and I want only my password to allow sudo to work. > Remove her from the sudoers group. From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Fri Oct 12 14:05:21 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:05:21 -0500 Subject: Screen Saver In-Reply-To: <1659490.8601A7givW@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> <1659490.8601A7givW@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <470F7F21.9080903@daaokc.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Darryl Tidd wrote: > > >> So I was removing a program from my installation of Kubuntu. I can't >> remember right now what program it was, but I typed "sudo apt-get remove >> whatever" Kubuntu started doing it's thing and then asked me if I >> wanted to continue. I answered yes and then realize after Kubuntu was >> done doing it's thing that kubuntu-desktop had been removed. After, my >> screen saver will not start. When time for the screen saver to start >> comes, I just get blank screen and the screen is not locked. However, >> when I hit alt+ctrl+l, the screen saver comes on and the screen locks. >> So, you may say, just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," which is >> what I thought too so I did. Kubuntu-desktop installed with all >> associated programs but the screen saver issue still remains. No screen >> saver starts and no screen lock unless I "alt+ctrl+l." Any ideas? >> > > Only that the screensaver and kubuntu-desktop issues aren't related :-) > I see that, I changed the settings in my screen saver to not start automatically. Now after a few minutes, my screen goes blank until I hit a key or move the mouse. I have checked the power saving function in system settings and it is disabled. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Fri Oct 12 14:16:04 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:16:04 -0500 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <470F81A4.6010507@daaokc.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Friday 12 October 2007 09:47, Donn wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have never needed > 1 user on my Kubuntu machine, but today I am trying >> to set one up. I have created a new user called "M". The question is how do >> I prevent M from being able to sudo into root by using her password? I am >> user "D" and I want only my password to allow sudo to work. >> >> > > Remove her from the sudoers group. > > Since I am the only user on my machine, I made another user with and entered a password. I then logged out and back in under the new user. I was not able to sudo with the new user password or the actual password that I use for sudo. Also, I believe if you make the new user name part of the users group, you shouldn't have a problem. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: darryl.tidd.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 129 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:20:36 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:20:36 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200710121620.36210.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Remove her from the sudoers group. Nearest I can tell I don't have a 'sudoers' group. Do you mean remove some group from the user M? She has these listed: adm, admin, audio, dip, lpadmin, mail, new_user, plugdev, video /d -- A modest little person, with much to be modest about. -- Winston Churchill From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:18:48 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:18:48 -0500 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0710120718y676b665dnc96f0d959d05257d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, Art Alexion wrote: > On Friday 12 October 2007 09:47, Donn wrote: > > Hi, > > I have never needed > 1 user on my Kubuntu machine, but today I am trying > > to set one up. I have created a new user called "M". The question is how do > > I prevent M from being able to sudo into root by using her password? I am > > user "D" and I want only my password to allow sudo to work. > > > > Remove her from the sudoers group. > Shouldn't have to ? You have to manually ADD new users after the first to make them able to use sudo. cat /etc/passwd | grep -w admin Anyone in the admin group has access to sudo. Greg From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:21:33 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:21:33 -0500 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <470F81A4.6010507@daaokc.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> <470F81A4.6010507@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710120721t583a347aleec99b54b93c0409@mail.gmail.com> > I was not able to sudo with the new user password or the actual password > that I use for sudo. Note that the password you use for sudo is the current users password. So account foo with password bar would enter bar for sudo access. Account tom with password jerry would enter jerry for sudo access. Greg From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:23:36 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:23:36 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <470F81A4.6010507@daaokc.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> <470F81A4.6010507@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <200710121623.36362.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Also, I believe if you make the new user name part of the users group, > you shouldn't have a problem. Jeez, I can't find a 'users' group either. I am still in the Iron-Age on Dapper ;) \d From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:23:18 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:23:18 -0500 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121620.36210.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200710121620.36210.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710120723he2ab754x6b1d04d8a446c748@mail.gmail.com> > > Remove her from the sudoers group. > Nearest I can tell I don't have a 'sudoers' group. > > Do you mean remove some group from the user M? > She has these listed: > adm, admin, audio, dip, lpadmin, mail, new_user, plugdev, video > > /d > Remove her from admin. sudo cat /etc/sudoers shows --snip # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL --/snip Greg From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:34:24 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:34:24 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710120723he2ab754x6b1d04d8a446c748@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121620.36210.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <720b310e0710120723he2ab754x6b1d04d8a446c748@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710121634.24333.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Remove her from admin. Okay - this worked. thx \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:30:32 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:30:32 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710120718y676b665dnc96f0d959d05257d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> <720b310e0710120718y676b665dnc96f0d959d05257d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710121630.32604.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Anyone in the admin group has access to sudo. I removed 'admin' from the user 'M' and now I can't login to that account at all... \d From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:43:59 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:43:59 -0500 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <200710121630.32604.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121006.55791.art.alexion@verizon.net> <720b310e0710120718y676b665dnc96f0d959d05257d@mail.gmail.com> <200710121630.32604.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710120743p763bf2bbh9b972f8977d6f584@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, Donn wrote: > > Anyone in the admin group has access to sudo. > I removed 'admin' from the user 'M' and now I can't login to that account at > all... > > > \d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > How did you create the account ? Through the GUI tools or the command line ? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:55:50 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:55:50 +0200 Subject: Stupid root question In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710120743p763bf2bbh9b972f8977d6f584@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121547.09849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710121630.32604.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <720b310e0710120743p763bf2bbh9b972f8977d6f584@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710121655.50486.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > How did you create the account ? Through the GUI tools or the command line Never mind - for some reason the KDE user dialogue blanked the password after I removed the admin group from the user - I had to redo that part of it. \d From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:58:19 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:58:19 -0600 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> Message-ID: <470F8B8B.2000306@gmail.com> Michael Bach (gmx) said the following at 10/12/2007 05:10 AM : >>> I can't remember enough details to give a solution, but I do recall that the >>> magic happened when I twiddled something in this section >>> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: >>> >>> Section "Monitor" >>> Identifier "Generic Monitor" >>> Option "DPMS" >>> HorizSync 28-64 >>> VertRefresh 43-60 >>> EndSection >>> >>> >> yesterday. The following command reconfigures X: >> >> sudo pdkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > Is of course meant to be: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org >> the -phigh causes to skip possible questions from the package >> configuration. If you want to provide more information to the >> configuration tool, use -plow instead of -phigh. -p means: priority of >> questions to ask. Thank you very much to both Michaels. I will try one or both of these on my wife's computer tonight. I forget what the LCD will currently run at: it's more than 640x480, but not a whole lot more. 768 x something, I think. The machine, BTW, is an off-the-shelf high-end-ish Compaq bought about two years ago. I can't remember the combination of letters and numbers that are its model number, and it probably isn't important anyway; I just wanted to say that it's not a Dell. This looks like an area where Canonical or someone need to do some work to make things more pleasant for users. The feisty experience sure didn't stack up well compared to Windows :-( I mean, the ATI video is clearly capable of more than whatever it's providing now, so it's pretty silly to keep receiving an error message saying that whatever I try "doesn't appear to work". Thanks again. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Fri Oct 12 15:14:49 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:49 -0500 Subject: Removing a home directory Message-ID: <200710121014.49473.yogich7230@sc2000.net> You can certainly remove a home directory. What I usually do in such circumstances is to re-created the directory as root, then run the following on it: # chown [user]:[group] -R [directory] Everything else will then be auto-created when you log back in --except your personal data, of course. From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 12 15:27:30 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:27:30 +0200 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470F8B8B.2000306@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> <470F8B8B.2000306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470F9262.6040004@gmx.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > Michael Bach (gmx) said the following at 10/12/2007 05:10 AM : > >>>> I can't remember enough details to give a solution, but I do recall that the >>>> magic happened when I twiddled something in this section >>>> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: >>>> >>>> Section "Monitor" >>>> Identifier "Generic Monitor" >>>> Option "DPMS" >>>> HorizSync 28-64 >>>> VertRefresh 43-60 >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> > >>> yesterday. The following command reconfigures X: >>> >>> sudo pdkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg >> Is of course meant to be: >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org >>> the -phigh causes to skip possible questions from the package >>> configuration. If you want to provide more information to the >>> configuration tool, use -plow instead of -phigh. -p means: priority of >>> questions to ask. > > Thank you very much to both Michaels. I will try one or both of these on my > wife's computer tonight. > > I forget what the LCD will currently run at: it's more than 640x480, but > not a whole lot more. 768 x something, I think. The machine, BTW, is an > off-the-shelf high-end-ish Compaq bought about two years ago. I can't > remember the combination of letters and numbers that are its model number, > and it probably isn't important anyway; I just wanted to say that it's not > a Dell. > > This looks like an area where Canonical or someone need to do some work to > make things more pleasant for users. Well, the configuration of X is in general more static than, say, the installation of another mouse, pen-drive or a bluetooth device. I don't get my head round enough to catch up with the latest developments of the x-server, but I recall to have read about recent efforts to make the x-server be more dynamic to changes of either resolution and screens. I'm pretty sure there will be the day in the not so far future where the x-server catches up with a new display without needing to restart (the x-erver). The feisty experience sure didn't > stack up well compared to Windows :-( I mean, the ATI video is clearly > capable of more than whatever it's providing now, so it's pretty silly to > keep receiving an error message saying that whatever I try "doesn't appear > to work". > > Thanks again. > > From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 15:35:23 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SOLVED] Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710112136.19032.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <748926.6203.qm@web39615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 7230 wrote: > Thanks for all the tips, people... I got my interface back. How? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 16:39:17 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:39:17 +0200 Subject: Xming stuff Message-ID: <200710121839.17728.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, Anyone using Xming on winders? I am trying to reach Ubuntu (I know, don't say it) and all works just fine except when I logout from the session. At that point it leaves apps open (like firefox) but closes Gnome and the window manager etc. Is there some way to have a clean exit from Ubuntu under Xming when one hits logout? (pretty sure same thing will happen under KDE) /d From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Fri Oct 12 16:57:32 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (laurent.asorne at gmx.lu) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:57:32 +0200 Subject: SBLive! sound card not working properly In-Reply-To: References: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: <20071012165732.259210@gmx.net> > I have already installed ALSA. I configured everything through System > Settings -> Sound System. And I use Kmix as mixer. Perhaps there is > another mixer which would make it work? > Or should i try to configure alsa in the command line? If so, what do I > have to do?  > Laurent Asorne  >   > ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ----- > Von: Phil Pinkerton > Gesendet: 15:28 Uhr > An: zz-My Adress, Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Betreff: Re: SBLive! sound card not working properly > > > > > On 10/12/07, Laurent Asorne wrote: > > Hi there! Trouble: my SBLive Platinum card isn't working properly (see > > my > > posting to subject  "Rosegarden"). Well, CD's and MP3's sounds are > > coming out > > all right, but there is no way to make it work for MIDI-files and for > > other > > external devices connected either to the mic-jack of the soundcard or > > the > > Linein-jack of the live!drive (front panel)... I've googled around but > > found > > nothing that helped me. I have no onboard sound, just this sound card. > > Kubuntu 7.04 running on an x86-machine with AMD K7 Processor (800MHz) > > and 512 > > MB Ram. > > > > Does anyone have an idea where i should look for help? > > Laurent Asorne > > -- > > The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX > > >   > I suggest you Install Alsa and configure the sound card with it. I had > the same problem years ago and Alsa fixed it. > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > >  Laurent Asorne -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 12 17:04:02 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:04:02 -0400 Subject: Removing a home directory In-Reply-To: <200710121014.49473.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710121014.49473.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710121304.10423.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 12 October 2007 11:14, 7230 wrote: > You can certainly remove a home directory. What I usually do in such > circumstances is to re-created the directory as root, then run the > following on it: > # chown [user]:[group] -R [directory] > > Everything else will then be auto-created when you log back in --except > your personal data, of course. OK. Thanks. But a clarification please. This computer is connected to a windows 2k3 Active Directory domain. I can actually log in as any domain user EXCEPT MYSELF. This is because the permissions in my home directory got screwed up. Problem is, only I have sudo access. The way I screwed things up is, in fact, invoking chown [user]:[group] -R [directory] It appears there are two different art users when an active directory domain is active. Perhaps different user numbers? So what happens if I remove the home directory, don't recreate it, and just log in? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, W Seidl > I forget what the LCD will currently run at: it's more than 640x480, but > not a whole lot more. 768 x something, I think. The machine, BTW, is an > off-the-shelf high-end-ish Compaq bought about two years ago. I can't > remember the combination of letters and numbers that are its model number, > and it probably isn't important anyway; I just wanted to say that it's not > a Dell. > > From jsidgman at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 18:16:30 2007 From: jsidgman at gmail.com (Jurgen Sidgman) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:16:30 -0500 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710121316.30429.jsidgman@gmail.com> On Monday 01 October 2007 18:58:24 Richard wrote: > okay, it may be me, but I just can't get used to dolphin aka (flipper) how > does one have Konqueror open up as the file manager, and not dolphin ? > > * Heard this, that Konqueror in the next update 8.04, is losing some of its > file manager function in-which dolphin is gaining . ( what with the hugh > icons) pls.. > > Long Live Konqueror. > Richard I just read your email and I agree with you. Although Dolphin looks nice I am so used to the Konqueror features that I changed it back too. Is it possible when using Dolphin to get the list of directories on the left pane and the icons on the main pane? Also, can Dolphin divide the screen horizontally? Sometimes vertical splitting is not useful (overall if you already have the window divided horizontally) Thanks!! From cms0009 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 19:54:29 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:54:29 -0400 Subject: info list view NOT DISPLAYING Message-ID: <200710121554.29473.cms0009@gmail.com> there seems to be a problem with "info list" view not display .flac meta-data at all. anyone ? Kubuntu 7.10 beta TIA Richard From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 20:02:56 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:02:56 -0600 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470FB2DE.2080102@sover.net> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> <470F8B8B.2000306@gmail.com> <470FB2DE.2080102@sover.net> Message-ID: <470FD2F0.4040307@gmail.com> WJ Seidl said the following at 10/12/2007 11:46 AM : > SNIP > > Most LCDs run 1024 X 768, though some of the nice expensive newer ones > run as high as 1200 X 1600. > Windows is happily running it at 1280x1024, 60Hz. So I know that I should be able to do at least that much with feisty. All I had to do in Windows was change the desktop properties and click! all done :-( X -- or at least X in feisty -- doesn't seem to have any concept that someone might want to change a monitor after the OS has been installed. Anyway, I'm sure I can figure it out with the help I've been given here; it's just that really one shouldn't need to ask or know about any of this. Maybe gutsy will be better; I do intend to upgrade my wife's computer to gutsy maybe a week or so after the early adopters have found the main issues associated with upgrading. From joantur at cancullet.org Fri Oct 12 22:06:30 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:06:30 +0200 Subject: displayconfig doesn't open any more Message-ID: <200710130006.33071.joantur@cancullet.org> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 up to date, upgraded 1 month ago from feisty. Everything is working fine but displayconfig as it doesn't open; if run from konsole, it shows the following errors: ----- quini at quinilg:~$ displayconfig X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 146 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 146 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in displayapp = DisplayApp() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ self._loadConfig() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/apport_python_hook.py", line 42, in apport_excepthook binary = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwdu(), sys.argv[0])) IndexError: list index out of range Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in displayapp = DisplayApp() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ self._loadConfig() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list ----- Any idea? TIA ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 23:40:54 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:40:54 +0800 Subject: Installed 7.10 Gusty (kill the dolphin) In-Reply-To: <200710121316.30429.jsidgman@gmail.com> References: <200710011958.24710.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710121316.30429.jsidgman@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710130740.56268.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Saturday 13 October 2007 2:16:30 am Jurgen Sidgman wrote: > Is it possible when using Dolphin to get the list of directories on the left pane and the icons on the main pane? Not with the version of Dolphin in Kubuntu, which is actually D3lphin. > Also, can Dolphin divide the screen > horizontally? Sometimes vertical splitting is not useful (overall if you > already have the window divided horizontally) Nope. Only vertically, and only once (no multiple split screens). From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 01:43:01 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:43:01 -0400 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470FD2F0.4040307@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> <470F8B8B.2000306@gmail.com> <470FB2DE.2080102@sover.net> <470FD2F0.4040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710121843l368c5e8bjc6fce63c413dd311@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, D. R. Evans wrote: > > Windows is happily running it at 1280x1024, 60Hz. So I know that I should > be able to do at least that much with feisty. > > All I had to do in Windows was change the desktop properties and click! > all > done :-( X -- or at least X in feisty -- doesn't seem to have any concept > that someone might want to change a monitor after the OS has been > installed. Anyway, I'm sure I can figure it out with the help I've been > given here; it's just that really one shouldn't need to ask or know about > any of this. Maybe gutsy will be better; I do intend to upgrade my wife's > computer to gutsy maybe a week or so after the early adopters have found > the main issues associated with upgrading. > I have to admit I didn't really understand your original question that well. But I just bought a new LCD monitor for my Feisty machine, which had already been running the non-free ATI driver. All I had to do to tell it about the new monitor was go to Settings -> Peripherals -> Monitor and Display, pick Administrator mode. Then go to the Hardware tab and tell it about my new monitor. Then under Size, Orientation & Positioning tab, it let me go up to 1680x1050. No problem, done. If Gutsy makes it even easier, great. Can't imagine it much easier, unless you don't want to know that a Monitor is a peripheral. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sat Oct 13 02:58:55 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0710121843l368c5e8bjc6fce63c413dd311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <356376.45150.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- John DeCarlo wrote: > On 10/12/07, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > > Windows is happily running it at 1280x1024, 60Hz. So I know that > I should > > be able to do at least that much with feisty. It might be interesting to see what color depth Windows is supporting at that resolution. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Oct 13 12:13:42 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:13:42 +0200 Subject: konqueror and firefox Message-ID: I cannot drag and drop http links from firefox to konqueror, yet the reverse works. Any ideas? thank you -- Pol From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 12:25:27 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:25:27 +0200 Subject: konqueror and firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710131425.27539.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I cannot drag and drop http links from firefox to konqueror, yet the > reverse works. Any ideas? Abandon all hope. \d From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Oct 13 17:22:20 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:22:20 +0200 Subject: Screen Saver In-Reply-To: <470F7F21.9080903@daaokc.com> References: <470BD989.5000703@daaokc.com> <1659490.8601A7givW@cedar.serverforest.com> <470F7F21.9080903@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <200710131922.20173.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Friday 12 October 2007 16:05, Darryl Tidd wrote: > I see that, I changed the settings in my screen saver to not start > automatically.  Now after a few minutes, my screen goes blank until I > hit a key or move the mouse.  I have checked the power saving function > in system settings and it is disabled. Perhaps the screen blanker option is hidden elswhere in the bios settings, or even in the setting of the screen (some new screens have a menu for settings) You may want to make sure kde or Linux isn't responsible by booting from a live CD. Good luck Perry -- BOFH excuse #320: You've been infected by the Telescoping Hubble virus From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Oct 13 17:29:39 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:29:39 +0200 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <356376.45150.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <356376.45150.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710131929.39544.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Saturday 13 October 2007 04:58, Earl Violet wrote: > > > Windows is happily running it at 1280x1024, 60Hz. So I know that > > > > I should > > > > > be able to do at least that much with feisty. > > It might be interesting to see what color depth Windows is supporting > at that resolution. Very interesting comment. Perhaps Evans should try again setting high resolution with low color depth. Good luck Perry -- BOFH excuse #234: Someone is broadcasting pygmy packets and the router doesn't know how to deal with them From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 13 18:00:49 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:00:49 -0400 Subject: konqueror and firefox In-Reply-To: <200710131425.27539.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710131425.27539.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710131400.51178.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 13 October 2007, Donn wrote: > > I cannot drag and drop http links from firefox to konqueror, yet the > > reverse works. Any ideas? > > Abandon all hope. I like that answer. Simple. To the point. I can't drag HTTP links between them in either direction, FWIW. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 18:18:01 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:18:01 +0200 Subject: konqueror and firefox In-Reply-To: <200710131400.51178.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710131425.27539.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710131400.51178.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710132018.01104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > Abandon all hope. > I like that answer. Simple. To the point. Hi Mike ;) Yeah, I went down that road yonks ago and came to that conclusion. \d From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 13 18:20:09 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:20:09 -0400 Subject: SBLive! sound card not working properly In-Reply-To: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> References: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: <200710131420.09519.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 12 October 2007, Laurent Asorne wrote: > Hi there! Trouble: my SBLive Platinum card isn't working properly (see my > posting to subject "Rosegarden"). I don't see that in my list of new messages. Maybe I missed it? Maybe I responded previously? > Well, CD's and MP3's sounds are coming > out all right, but there is no way to make it work for MIDI-files and for > other external devices connected either to the mic-jack of the soundcard or > the Linein-jack of the live!drive (front panel)... How old is the card? I'm not sure if the Live! Platinum was one of the ones that still had a working on-board synth. If it does, you need to load a soundfont into it with asfxload, and then turn up the volume on that channel. (I think it's called "Synth" or "Music.") If all else fails, you'll have to run QSynth like 99.9% of the world. Most soundcards have MIDI that "just works" on Windows because Windows has a transparent fake software synth as part of the soundcard driver. Linux doesn't have a transparent fake software synth. You have to run a fake software synth manually, like QSynth. My book is 40,000 years out of date, but you might find it useful: http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ (Please just read the "Free Companion" version, and forget about buying a copy. I haven't seen a royalty payment in over two years, and I don't think one more sale will tip the balance.) -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 13 18:21:42 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:21:42 -0400 Subject: konqueror and firefox In-Reply-To: <200710132018.01104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710131400.51178.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710132018.01104.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710131421.43135.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 13 October 2007, Donn wrote: > Hi Mike ;) Yeah, I went down that road yonks ago and came to that > conclusion. I feel the same about Lexmark printers. I published some howto instructions about one of those once, and I still get the odd "can you help me" message. Abandon all hope. I will mail you a sledge hammer if you promise to send me pictures of the printer after you have destroyed it. I can't help you. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 18:36:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Subject: SBLive! sound card not working properly In-Reply-To: <200710131420.09519.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710120917.26927.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <200710131420.09519.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710132036.29987.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > My book is 40,000 years out of date, but you might find it useful: > http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ > (Please just read the "Free Companion" version, and forget about buying a > copy. I haven't seen a royalty payment in over two years, and I don't > think one more sale will tip the balance.) You could think about releasing it as a free (or low cost) ebook on Lulu.com -- I have been mucking about over there for a few days. Perhaps a print version will sell too? I set my stuff in Lyx (great app, bloody marvelous), used Inkscape for the art and cover (but had to moosh the cover thru Scribus * to get a proper PDF out.) /d * Scribus = Arrrghhh... run for the hills! From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 00:52:01 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:52:01 -0700 Subject: Removing a home directory In-Reply-To: <200710121013.16650.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710121013.16650.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710131752t29988c64u1f8a00232dd9fbc8@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, Art Alexion wrote: > > something broke my active directory authentication. I can log in as one > of > the other domain users (without sudo access) but not as myself because > permissions have been corrupted. > > I am willing to delete my home directory. Can I do this and have it > automatically regenerated? 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URL: From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 00:55:41 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:55:41 -0700 Subject: Removing a home directory In-Reply-To: <200710121304.10423.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200710121014.49473.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710121304.10423.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0710131755s70a2108i239a945ef1975a25@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, Art Alexion wrote: > > > > So what happens if I remove the home directory, don't recreate it, and > just > log in? > > > > I would login with local root credentials and from there remove and readd your account to be safe instead of manually removing your home directory -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Sun Oct 14 01:40:08 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:40:08 -0400 Subject: Removing a home directory In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710131755s70a2108i239a945ef1975a25@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121014.49473.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710121304.10423.art.alexion@verizon.net> <5dc6fd9e0710131755s70a2108i239a945ef1975a25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710132140.09432.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Saturday, 13 October 2007 20:55, Hex Star wrote: > On 10/12/07, Art Alexion wrote: > > > So what happens if I remove the home directory, don't recreate it, and just > log in? > > > > > > I would login with local root credentials and from there remove and readd > your account to be safe instead of manually removing your home directory I went ahead and renamed my home directory and then was able to successfully log into KDE as myself. The AD login created a home directory in my name and everything worked fine -- until I logged out again. Seems the art that owns the AD login is user 14823 and the art that is a console login is user 1000. Possibly, my AD/winbind/pam settings are creating a different user number for each time I log in. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 07:55:55 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:55:55 +0200 Subject: Xming stuff In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710131757k5d83b2b7la17fec3e9b5806fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121839.17728.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710131757k5d83b2b7la17fec3e9b5806fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710140955.55387.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > sudo logout You jest! :) I'll give it a go. /d From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Oct 14 11:58:52 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:58:52 -0400 Subject: turning off compiz Message-ID: <200710140758.52766.pkaplan1@comcast.net> The wiki has great instructions for setting up and turning on compizfusion. How does one restore the kde window manager and turn off compiz? Paul From joantur at cancullet.org Sun Oct 14 12:55:13 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:55:13 +0200 Subject: displayconfig doesn't open any more In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710131754j3003973dv4c7f443ebaf103a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710130006.33071.joantur@cancullet.org> <5dc6fd9e0710131754j3003973dv4c7f443ebaf103a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710141455.15661.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Diumenge, 14 de Octubre de 2007, en Hex Star va escriure: | On 10/12/07, Joan Tur wrote: | > Hi, | > | > I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 up to date, upgraded 1 month ago from feisty. | > | > Everything is working fine but displayconfig as it doesn't open; if run | > from | > konsole, it shows the following errors: | > | > ----- | > quini at quinilg:~$ displayconfig | > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 | > Major opcode: 146 | > Minor opcode: 3 | > Resource id: 0x0 | > Failed to open device | > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 | > Major opcode: 146 | > Minor opcode: 3 | > Resource id: 0x0 | > Failed to open device | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in | > displayapp = DisplayApp() | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ | > self._loadConfig() | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig | > self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) | > ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list | > Error in sys.excepthook: | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/apport_python_hook.py", line | > 42, in | > apport_excepthook | > binary = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwdu(), sys.argv[0])) | > IndexError: list index out of range | > | > Original exception was: | > Traceback (most recent call last): | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in | > displayapp = DisplayApp() | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ | > self._loadConfig() | > File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig | > self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) | > ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list | > ----- | | Try in a terminal session executing the following commands: | | sudo apt-get --purge remove displayconfig | sudo apt-get install displayconfig As there's no displayconfig package, I've purged kde-guidance: ----- root at quinilg:~# dpkg -S bin/displayconfig kde-guidance: /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore kde-guidance: /usr/bin/displayconfig displayconfig-gtk: /usr/bin/displayconfig-gtk root at quinilg:~# apt-get remove --purge kde-guidance S'està llegint la llista de paquets... Fet S'està construint l'arbre de dependències Reading state information... Fet The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libnl1-pre6 python-software-properties network-manager libnm-util0 python-libxml2 hwdb-client-kde gdebi-core apport kde-icons-mono apport-qt kdesudo kbstate python-launchpad-bugs dhcdbd hwdb-client-common kvkbd digikam unattended-upgrades kde-style-polyester python-problem-report networkstatus kio-umountwrapper gdebi-kde ttf-arphic-ukai software-properties-kde language-selector-qt cups-pdf python-apport kmousetool kmag network-manager-kde Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. S'ELIMINARAN els següents paquets: kde-guidance* kde-guidance-powermanager* kubuntu-desktop* 0 actualitzats, 0 nous a instal·lar, 3 a eliminar i 0 no actualitzats. Es necessita obtenir 0B d'arxius. Després de desempaquetar s'alliberaran 2425kB d'espai en disc. Voleu continuar [S/n]? (S'està llegint la base de dades ... hi ha 194645 fitxers i directoris instal·lats actualment.) S'està desinstal·lant kubuntu-desktop ... S'està desinstal·lant kde-guidance-powermanager ... S'està desinstal·lant kde-guidance ... S'estan purgant els fitxers de configuració de kde-guidance ... dpkg - avís: al desinstal·lar kde-guidance, el directori «/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance» no està buit, no s'esborra. dpkg - avís: al desinstal·lar kde-guidance, el directori «/var/lib/guidance» no està buit, no s'esborra. Processing triggers for libc6 ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place root at quinilg:~# aptitude install kde-guidance kubuntu-desktop ... ----- But it still shows the same error 8-( any other idea? TIA ;) Note: error after purging the package and installing it again seems the same to me: ----- quini at quinilg:~$ displayconfig X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 146 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 146 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in displayapp = DisplayApp() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ self._loadConfig() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/apport_python_hook.py", line 42, in apport_excepthook binary = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwdu(), sys.argv[0])) IndexError: list index out of range Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1720, in displayapp = DisplayApp() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 478, in __init__ self._loadConfig() File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 1031, in _loadConfig self.targetgamma = self.availabletargetgammas.index(t) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list ----- -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Light on the usb dongle does not > blink and it cannot scan any wireless devices. > > Is there any problem with the drivers when i reboot my machine with the usb > dongle plugged in? removed blacklist entry for r8187 in modprobe.d? -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.stop1984.com http://www.againsttcpa.com From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sun Oct 14 23:25:54 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (7230) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:25:54 -0500 Subject: [SOLVED] Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question Message-ID: <200710141825.54893.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Someone asked "how" when I said I solved the problem. Well, it was a misnaming of an interface in one of my scripts. I thought I had eradicated any vestages of the old card's config but I hadn't. So... from there, I had to trace down all instances of that interface being named. In short, I missed one because I had a major brain f___ and didn't know what to look for: eth2. :-\ lol So... like I said... I got it fixed, thanks to all the suggestions --at least one of which jogged my memory as to what I was actually looking for. How embarrassing. From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 00:11:59 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SOLVED] Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <200710141825.54893.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <445802.81713.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is experience. I was told long ago, "Experience is the ability to quickly recognize your mistake the 5th or 6th time you make it." Earl --- 7230 wrote: > Someone asked "how" when I said I solved the problem. Well, it was > a > misnaming of an interface in one of my scripts. I thought I had > eradicated > any vestages of the old card's config but I hadn't. So... from > there, I had > to trace down all instances of that interface being named. In > short, I > missed one because I had a major brain f___ and didn't know what to > look for: > eth2. :-\ lol > > So... like I said... I got it fixed, thanks to all the suggestions > --at least > one of which jogged my memory as to what I was actually looking > for. How > embarrassing. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 03:18:37 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:18:37 -0500 Subject: [SOLVED] Clarification: Network Reconfiguration Question In-Reply-To: <445802.81713.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <445802.81713.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710142218.39456.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Sunday 14 October 2007 19:11:59 Earl Violet wrote: > This is experience. I was told long ago, "Experience is the ability > to quickly recognize your mistake the 5th or 6th time you make it." > > Earl > I like that definition. :-) From vineeth.chandran at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 03:47:01 2007 From: vineeth.chandran at gmail.com (vineeth.chandran at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:17:01 +0530 Subject: problems with wi-fi WG111v2 netgear dongle In-Reply-To: <200710142345.01172.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de> References: <63676fdd0710120249n2f60a615k2c2378dd8bcd2ee6@mail.gmail.com> <200710142345.01172.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de> Message-ID: <63676fdd0710142047j1a0cae27ma5dc5b4ad1f6a948@mail.gmail.com> yes i removed both of these in modprobe.d blacklist rtl8187 blacklist r8187b thanks Vineeth On 10/15/07, Dexter Filmore wrote: > > On Friday 12 October 2007 11:49:22 vineeth.chandran at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have the wi-fi WG111v2 netgear dongle installed properly on Kubuntu > > machine. I have assigned it a static IP address and its able to get into > > the network. > > > > But when i reboot my machine with the dongle plugged in, and when the > > system is up the wi-fi seems to be dead. Light on the usb dongle does > not > > blink and it cannot scan any wireless devices. > > > > Is there any problem with the drivers when i reboot my machine with the > usb > > dongle plugged in? > > removed blacklist entry for r8187 in modprobe.d? > > > -- > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? 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URL: From jessie at confettiantiques.com Mon Oct 15 04:18:58 2007 From: jessie at confettiantiques.com (Jessie Adan Morris) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:18:58 -0600 Subject: turning off compiz In-Reply-To: <200710140758.52766.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200710140758.52766.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4712EA32.20001@confettiantiques.com> Paul Kaplan wrote: > The wiki has great instructions for setting up and turning on compizfusion. > How does one restore the kde window manager and turn off compiz? > Paul > > > press alt+f2 and type/copy in: "kdesudo killall compiz && kwin" -- ---------------------------------- Jessie Adan Morris jessie at confettiantiques.com Take life as it comes. From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Mon Oct 15 04:34:54 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:34:54 -0600 Subject: prism 2.5 Message-ID: <200710142234.55110.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> I have an IBM T30 with an Prism 2.5 wavelan chipset. I have not had any success in getting this chipset to work, even though I have loaded all the drivers that I could find in Adept related to the Prism 2.5. It is set up as wlan0. I googled the net to see what I could find and one site suggested that I reset it to eth0 in modules.config, but I can't find that file. I'm currently using a USB wireless device quite successfully, but I would like to use the internal Prism. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get it working, I would appreciate it. Arthur From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Mon Oct 15 07:44:54 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:44:54 +0200 Subject: No sound after upgrade ! (Edgy --> Feisty) References: <378cf4aa0710141327m4c4c98f8xdce3c0a9694a2869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Helio Junior wrote: > Hello ! > > I have just upgraded my Kubuntu Distro from Edgy to Feisty and > "apparently" everything was ok till I decided to play some music with > xmms. > > When I try it, I get the following message: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Couldn't open audio: > > Please check that: > > Your soundcard is configured properly > You have the correct output plugin selected > No other program is blocking the soundcard > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Before my upgrade the sound was working just fine. > > Does anybody know what could be the problem? > > Thanks in advance. > > > H3li0 Hi H3lio, I assume you're using ALSA. If you have the alsa-utils package, try running (with sudo) alsaconf to make sure your driver is properly installed. If you still don't get sound, check your mixer to make sure the sound is not muted. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From vo.ba at gmx.de Mon Oct 15 11:36:18 2007 From: vo.ba at gmx.de (Volker Barth) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:36:18 +0200 Subject: KDE problems (automount, hibernate) after kernel upgrade Message-ID: <20071015113618.193850@gmx.net> Dear all, Short problem version: after an upgrade to the recent gutsy kernel I am having troubles with KDE: autodetection of USB devices no longer works, and the 'hibernate' entry in my klaptop panel entry is gone. Manually mounting USB devices is still possible, and manually hibernating the laptop via klaptop_acpi_helper also works flawlessly. So, why does KDE deny its services here? Can KDE be instructed to recover these lost capabilities, and if so, how? Long version: I am running Kubuntu Dapper on a Dell D620 laptop with KDE 3.5.2 and security patches installed. Last week, I decided to install an up-to-date kernel, in order to get access to the zd1211rw driver for my WLAN USB stick. This driver requires a kernel > 2.6.18, so the dapper kernel (2.6.25) was no longer an option. I decided to use the (then) latest kernel from kernel.org, 2.6.22.9. Since finding the correct parameters for kernel configuration was a bit troublesome, I eventually tried the kernel package for ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy), more as an idea of last resort, but this allowed me to boot almost flawlessly. What I finally did was to use the kernel configuration file from gutsy and modified it for my CPU (Core 2 Duo instead of i586 and the snd-hda-intel driver). I also patched the 2.6.22.9 sources from kernel.org to get rid of some nasty device-mapper error messages and then recompiled. I now have an up-to-date kernel again, with good wireless support. So far so good. Since then, KDE refuses to autodetect USB devices, i.e. when inserting the memory stick it is properly detected in the syslog as /dev/sdb1, and after setting up a mount point (/media/usbstick), I am able to mount it manually. Before the upgrade, there was no need for that mount point, as the KDE automounter detected the stick, showed an icon on the screen, asked me what to do, and mounted the device to /media/sdb1. Likewise, when right-clicking on the battery icon in the panel I was able to select 'suspend' and 'hibernate' from a pop up menu. Now, the menu is still there, but it is missing the 'hibernate' entry, while suspending still works. I now have to invoke 'klaptop_acpi_helper --hibernate' from the command line in order to hibernate the machine. Both problems are not fatal, but annoying and I would like to have them back again. So far, google was of no great help. As both functionalities are still there after the kernel upgrade, they cannot be a kernel problem. I rather suspect some problems of KDE to find and/or access config files or similar, but I have absolutely no idea where to start looking at. Any help or attempt to enlighten me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 14:19:10 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:19:10 -0500 Subject: Suspension WORKS!?!? Message-ID: <200710150919.10297.yogich7230@sc2000.net> After my rant, it is only fair to offer kudos to the team for getting the 'suspend' working properly. I like it. :-) From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 14:20:41 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:20:41 -0500 Subject: Dolphin Message-ID: <200710150920.42161.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I must say... Dolphin is going to take a little 'getting used to'... I'm so used to konq. I understand there is a way to revert, and may wish to know what that way is, eventually. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 14:27:47 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:27:47 -0500 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy Message-ID: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It has been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, the problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll have to copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview ...like I did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). Hm. That's right... not a happy camper. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 14:28:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:28:31 +0200 Subject: Suspension WORKS!?!? In-Reply-To: <200710150919.10297.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150919.10297.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710151628.31807.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Wait for it ......... :D \d From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Mon Oct 15 15:30:57 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:30:57 +0200 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox Message-ID: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding Firefox, but here goes: Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to navigate between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated jdh _________________ kubuntu feisty i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:33:04 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:33:04 -0600 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> References: <256f4e900710111710m6c94d0b3q78154db38ab366e7@mail.gmail.com> <200710112154.15874.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <470F511B.6050205@gmx.net> <470F5627.4040309@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47138830.9000205@gmail.com> Michael Bach (gmx) said the following at 10/12/2007 05:10 AM : >> >> sudo pdkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > Is of course meant to be: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org > Or, actually: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg This worked. Thanks very much. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:33:33 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:33:33 -0600 Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <356376.45150.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <356376.45150.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4713884D.8010002@gmail.com> Earl Violet said the following at 10/12/2007 08:58 PM : > It might be interesting to see what color depth Windows is supporting > at that resolution. 32 bits From aharrison at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:36:09 2007 From: aharrison at gmail.com (Andy Harrison) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:36:09 -0400 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/07, john d. herron wrote: > > I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding > Firefox, but here goes: > Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to navigate > between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? > Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated > jdh [Ctrl][Tab] - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHE4j9NTm8fWdRgmIRAgQ+AJ47vym+ZfEAiEj/Hi2S/+/wLLNiKwCgnLcE tx/axrXz3wMdqVUXuDt3fGc= =pShg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:41:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:41:47 +0200 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200710151741.48034.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > navigate between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? You will never guess .... ctrl + Tab, ctrl + shift + tab I got it from the firefox help. Hmmmm. \d From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:41:36 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:41:36 -0500 Subject: Help! In-Reply-To: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello! Kubuntu community, I'm a really new to linux os..I've been educating myself on this OS and i've been able to install it on my computer... but I find hard to install the fire fox browser to work well on my system so, i could view videos and the likes... i also read abt the wine or crossover to run some of the applications i use in windows..please i'll appreciate help with this issues.. thanks in advance..community.. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:53:46 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:53:46 +0200 Subject: Help! In-Reply-To: References: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710151753.46171.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Welcome :) > myself on this OS and i've been able to install it on my computer... but I Well done so far ! > find hard to install the fire fox browser to work well on my system so, i > could view videos and the likes... I'll ask if you have searched around ubuntu.com, because there are many resources in the wikis to help you install flash and various video formats. You should do your homework there first. I'd give you a link, but I'm just gonna do what you'll do; i.e. google + search ubuntu.com > i also read abt the wine or crossover to > run some of the applications i use in windows..please i'll appreciate help > with this issues.. thanks in advance..community.. This is also well documented on the ubuntu site. Crossover costs money, but I hear it really works well for all kinds of apps -- check if your version of your apps is supported. Wine is free, but ymmv. Good luck, sorry for short-on-help post. Keep trying, I'm sure others here will be more useful. /d From vo.ba at gmx.de Mon Oct 15 15:59:26 2007 From: vo.ba at gmx.de (vo.ba at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:59:26 +0200 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <20071015155926.102510@gmx.net> On 10/15/07, Andy Harrison wrote: > On 10/15/07, john d. herron wrote: > > > > I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding > > Firefox, but here goes: > > Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to > navigate > > between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? > > Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated > > jdh > > > [Ctrl][Tab] This won't help you much in KDE, since Ctrl-Tab by default moves you through your list of workspaces. In my case, I'll have to use Alt-1, Alt-2, Alt-3... to switch to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd,.. tab (numbers increase from left to right), respectively. It's not overly convenient, in particular if you have many open tabs, so I still mostly use the mouse... HTH, vob -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Oct 15 16:10:41 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:10:41 +0100 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <47139101.8050504@tiscali.co.uk> john d. herron wrote: > I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding > Firefox, but here goes: > Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to > navigate between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? > Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated > jdh > _________________ > kubuntu feisty > i586 w/ 512 MB > > > => next tab on left => next tab on right They wrap round at the ends... :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 16:12:35 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:12:35 -0500 Subject: Help! In-Reply-To: References: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710151112.35430.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Monday 15 October 2007 10:41:36 ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Hello! Kubuntu community, I'm a really new to linux os..I've been educating > myself on this OS and i've been able to install it on my computer... but I > find hard to install the fire fox browser to work well on my system so, i > could view videos and the likes... i also read abt the wine or crossover to > run some of the applications i use in windows..please i'll appreciate help > with this issues.. thanks in advance..community.. > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" One thing you will find very_useful is the 'ubuntu restricted extras', which can be found in Adept. From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 15 16:17:17 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:17:17 -0400 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200710151217.17481.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 15 October 2007 11:36, Andy Harrison wrote: > On 10/15/07, john d. herron wrote: > > I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding > > Firefox, but here goes: > > Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to > > navigate between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? > > Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated > > jdh > > [Ctrl][Tab] Ctrl+PgUp (or PGDn) works for me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's one of the first things I unbreak in a fresh KDE install without even thinking about it... forgot to mention that. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHE5N5NTm8fWdRgmIRAvaKAKDOnqISPca87faeKPt/sE9kU4ajxgCg9hen YZUG9Bi8Rb9y7yTIDTLVdnE= =ADOh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 16:49:05 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Only getting low resolution with new monitor in feisty In-Reply-To: <4713884D.8010002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <220915.24125.qm@web39605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "D. R. Evans" wrote: > Earl Violet said the following at 10/12/2007 08:58 PM : > > > It might be interesting to see what color depth Windows is > supporting > > at that resolution. > > 32 bits It might be necessary to back down to 16 for Linux as some of the drivers aren't as good. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 From BFritzsche at gmx.de Mon Oct 15 16:53:45 2007 From: BFritzsche at gmx.de (Benjamin Fritzsche) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:53:45 +0200 Subject: Help! In-Reply-To: References: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710151853.45469.BFritzsche@gmx.de> On Monday 15 October 2007 17:41:36 ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Hello! Kubuntu community, I'm a really new to linux os..I've been educating > myself on this OS and i've been able to install it on my computer... but I > find hard to install the fire fox browser to work well on my system so, i > could view videos and the likes... i also read abt the wine or crossover to > run some of the applications i use in windows..please i'll appreciate help > with this issues.. thanks in advance..community.. Wine can be quite troublesome, epecially for beginners. If you have a windows Licence anyway, I'd suggest you try VirtualBox for those annoying must-use-windows apps. Benny From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 15 16:58:07 2007 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:58:07 -0700 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <471387B1.5060805@bluewin.ch> <20071015155926.102510@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47139C1F.80906@sbcglobal.net> Andy Harrison wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 10/15/07, vo.ba at gmx.de wrote: > >> This won't help you much in KDE, since Ctrl-Tab by default moves you >> through your list of workspaces. In my case, I'll have to use Alt-1, >> Alt-2, Alt-3... to switch to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd,.. tab (numbers >> increase from left to right), respectively. >> >> It's not overly convenient, in particular if you have many open tabs, >> so I still mostly use the mouse... I am using Firefox on Kubuntu (KDE) and and I not sure how I did it but if I click on the tab then the left and right arrow keys will move to the next tab. If I click in the open page for that tab the arrow keys do not switch tabs. HTH Jerry From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Mon Oct 15 18:30:23 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:23 -0400 Subject: Automount USB device Message-ID: <1192473023.6110.18.camel@tregonsee> Hoe can I get my Kubuntu Feisty machine to automatically mount a USB MPS player when I plug it in? I tried to Google the answer, and found that in Ubuntu it is supposed to happen automatically if you have the default Gnome desktop, but I could not find any information about doing it in Kubuntu. And there seems to be a good Help site for Ubuntu, but nothing comparable for Kubuntu. If there is a site online that has the information, please let me know. I don't mind reading it for myself, but so far I can not even find it. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 The issue isn't whether or not we are the same as the Nazis, the issue is that we aren't different enough.-- Avi Schlaim, an Israeli historian From mailinglist at endosquid.com Mon Oct 15 18:56:49 2007 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:56:49 -0400 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710151456.49188.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Monday 15 October 2007, CH wrote: > > What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It has > been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, the > problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll have to > copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview ...like I > did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). Hm. > I just wish I could figure out how to make it look exactly like gqview for fast, efficient browsing and switch-back between images with the image on the right. From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Oct 15 19:11:03 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:11:03 +0200 Subject: OT: frozen hard disk Message-ID: <4713BB47.5040201@rmk.co.il> This is really OT but it might help somebody: My daughter's old laptop running Feisty Fawn suddenly stopped working - it 'froze' and so she did a 'reset'. After the bios messages up comes a "cannot find an operating system' (or something similar). I tried when I came home from work - same thing. Stuck a Knoppix CD in and everything loaded OK but no hard disk icons on the desktop - not good! Took the hard disk out of the laptop and put it in the freezer overnight. Took it out in the morning to warm up and get rid of any condensation - put it back in the laptop after work and fired it up. Everything ran as it should and I quickly copied all her files over to my box via nfs and burnt them to a CD. So just in case anybody else has a 'stuck' hard disk - stick it in the freezer overnight - it works (YMMV). Remember that Beatles song 'Yesterday' - here's a version to remind us all about the necessity of making regular backups: http://tinyurl.com/2rw7lr (I've used a tinyurl as the original is toooo long). Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 19:35:22 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:35:22 -0400 Subject: OT: frozen hard disk In-Reply-To: <4713BB47.5040201@rmk.co.il> References: <4713BB47.5040201@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710151235l1d6c9accjbad0dcf57af0b321@mail.gmail.com> On 10/15/07, Nigel Ridley wrote: > This is really OT but it might help somebody: > My daughter's old laptop running Feisty Fawn suddenly stopped working - > it 'froze' and so she did a 'reset'. After the bios messages up comes a > "cannot find an operating system' (or something similar). I tried when I > came home from work - same thing. Stuck a Knoppix CD in and everything > loaded OK but no hard disk icons on the desktop - not good! > > Took the hard disk out of the laptop and put it in the freezer > overnight. Took it out in the morning to warm up and get rid of any > condensation - put it back in the laptop after work and fired it up. > Everything ran as it should and I quickly copied all her files over to > my box via nfs and burnt them to a CD. > > So just in case anybody else has a 'stuck' hard disk - stick it in the > freezer overnight - it works (YMMV). > > Remember that Beatles song 'Yesterday' - here's a version to remind us > all about the necessity of making regular backups: > http://tinyurl.com/2rw7lr > (I've used a tinyurl as the original is toooo long). > > Blessings, > > Nigel I've heard many people have luck with this. A tip for everyone inexperienced in this area is: Clicking is not a feature of a hard drive. If you ever hear your hard drive start clicking, get the data off as fast as you can. If your drive won't correctly mount: freeze it, replace the pcb with the pcb of a functioning one (same model), or send it to professional data recovery centers (expensive). I just recently lost a relatively new 500GB Maxtor external USB drive. It doesn't even mount to the computer, but I have yet to try to freeze it (it didn't have anything really important on it). It's still under warranty thankfully. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 20:23:29 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:23:29 +0200 Subject: Sync calander and addressbook: Kontact vs. Nokia Message-ID: <880dece00710151323yaa488ds9108f58ac579f555@mail.gmail.com> I use Kontact as my PIM. I need to have it's information with me on the go, specifically the addressbook (phone numbers only) and calander. How can I sync Kontact with a Nokia 6280? If the 6280 is incapable, what Nokia phone is capable? Failing that, I have a Dell x50v that I can carry with me. How could I export the Kontact data to the Dell? it is running Windows Mobile 2003SE. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 20:54:05 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:54:05 -0400 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710151354m46f55a25re9d6a4d9799e9ca5@mail.gmail.com> On 10/15/07, CH wrote: > > What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It has > been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, the > problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll have to > copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview ...like I > did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). Hm. > > > That's right... not a happy camper. I hate to point this out, but that's not proper RSS (Ranting on Soapbox Syntax). Valid RSS entails that you nest elements correctly. I.E. -> rather than the incorrect way you did (). One other thing (although it actually doesn't constitute invalid RSS) is that the rant SHOULD BE IN ALL CAPS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE RANT LIKE THIS AND YOU SHOULD TRY TO USE AS LITTLE PUNCTUATION AS POSSIBLE LIKE THIS AND YOU SHOULD TRY TO MAKE YOUR RANT CARRY ON AND ON AND ON ALL IN ONE SENTENCE UNTIL YOUR DONE LIKE THIS SO THAT BY THE END OF THE RANT NO ONE (NOT EVEN YOU) REALLY KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY AND FOR A BONUS TRY TO MISELL A COPLE WORS (FOR ADDED AFECT). Hope this helps, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 15 22:10:35 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:10:35 -0500 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710151354m46f55a25re9d6a4d9799e9ca5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <9bed467e0710151354m46f55a25re9d6a4d9799e9ca5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710151710.36135.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Monday 15 October 2007 15:54:05 Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On 10/15/07, CH wrote: > > > > What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It > > has been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, > > the problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll > > have to copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview > > ...like I did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). > > Hm. > > > > That's right... not a happy camper. > > I hate to point this out, but that's not proper RSS (Ranting on > Soapbox Syntax). Valid RSS entails that you nest elements correctly. > I.E. -> rather than the incorrect way > you did (). One other thing (although > it actually doesn't constitute invalid RSS) is that the rant SHOULD BE > IN ALL CAPS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE RANT LIKE THIS AND YOU > SHOULD TRY TO USE AS LITTLE PUNCTUATION AS POSSIBLE LIKE THIS AND YOU > SHOULD TRY TO MAKE YOUR RANT CARRY ON AND ON AND ON ALL IN ONE > SENTENCE UNTIL YOUR DONE LIKE THIS SO THAT BY THE END OF THE RANT NO > ONE (NOT EVEN YOU) REALLY KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY AND FOR A > BONUS TRY TO MISELL A COPLE WORS (FOR ADDED AFECT). > > Hope this helps, > Andrew > > -- > 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 Many thanks for the sage advice. It has been a very long time since I ranted. :-) From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Mon Oct 15 22:12:06 2007 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:06 +0100 Subject: Garbled Google Message-ID: <20071015231206.6d6a1e55.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> For a while I've been noticing garbled autocompletion in the konqueror search window (see attached image). This occurs on 2 boxes [one an X86 system with KDE 3.5.7, the other a PPC system with 3.5.6], so I think it's unlikely to be something I've done. Is this a bug introduced in a recent KDE update or a change in when Google is spitting out? James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. 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From: Denis Gaulin <2050gaulin at videotron.ca> Subject: mgetty fax manager enquiries Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:40 -0400 Size: 2262 URL: From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 02:09:48 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:09:48 +0800 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710161009.48986.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 15 October 2007 10:27:47 pm CH wrote: > > What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It has > been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, the > problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll have to > copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview ...like I > did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). Hm. > > > That's right... not a happy camper. Are you sure you're not mistaking gwenview for another application? Because gwenview is definitely installed on my Gutsy and it's definitely in the Gutsy repositories. http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/gwenview From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 02:11:50 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:11:50 +0800 Subject: Dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710150920.42161.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150920.42161.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710161011.51141.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 15 October 2007 10:20:41 pm CH wrote: > I must say... Dolphin is going to take a little 'getting used to'... I'm so > used to konq. I understand there is a way to revert, and may wish to know > what that way is, eventually. In Konqueror, Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations, change the association for inode -> directory (and inode -> system_directory) from Dolphin to Konqueror. From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Tue Oct 16 06:58:12 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:58:12 +0100 Subject: Dolphin In-Reply-To: <200710150920.42161.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710150920.42161.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <20071016075812.113a41ca@graham-desktop> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:20:41 -0500 CH wrote: > I must say... Dolphin is going to take a little 'getting used to'... > I'm so used to konq. I understand there is a way to revert, and may > wish to know what that way is, eventually. > That's exactly why I killed it and now use Krusader. :) -- Graham Todd From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 07:16:57 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:16:57 +0200 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710151354m46f55a25re9d6a4d9799e9ca5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <9bed467e0710151354m46f55a25re9d6a4d9799e9ca5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710160916.57283.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I hate to point this out, but that's not proper RSS (Ranting on > Soapbox Syntax). Valid RSS entails that you nest elements correctly. Ah... that explains those RSS buttons that just don't work in Firefox :) \d From karlok at fastmail.fm Tue Oct 16 07:34:58 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:34:58 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: mgetty fax manager enquiries] In-Reply-To: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <471469A2.2070705@fastmail.fm> Denis Gaulin wrote: > I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this > OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , > Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a > former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone > RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). Does this modem work under Linux? It looks to me like the kind that you couldn't get a Linux driver for. > >>From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) > package. > I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen > installed . > the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; > mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice > > However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing > anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. > Mgetty is supposed to be started when the computer boots. I think that the installation procedure would make this happen automatically. > The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by > copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile > to specify installation paths . > I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I > have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... > You don't need to compile anything. Installed packages are pre-compiled and ready to go. > I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and > Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what > to do to configure and start mgetty to run. > > All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue > all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, > sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. > Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real > configuration? > > I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? > I did some googling and found documentation for mgetty at http://mgetty.greenie.net/. It doesn't look simple. Bonne chance, Karl From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 08:56:55 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:56:55 +0200 Subject: Kpdf printing blanks Message-ID: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Yo, I done googled some, but can't find anything clear. I can print fine from just about any app except KPDF. I just tested a print from Kate to see if I was mad, and it works. When I use print preview under Kpdf, it's just a blank page. Funny 'cos it shows the pdf as normal on the screen, it's just the printing side of things that's broken. Then I tested from (gasp) Acrobat, and it prints the pdf perfectly. So, it's not a badly formed pdf. Any clues? Is it ghostview gone bad perhaps? \d From fractus at gawab.com Tue Oct 16 09:19:49 2007 From: fractus at gawab.com (David Polanco) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:19:49 -0500 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710160419.50098.fractus@gawab.com> Helo all try ctrl + pgup or pgdown on firefox, konsole, konqueror or any software that works with Tabs salute From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 16 09:52:52 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:52:52 +0100 Subject: Sync calander and addressbook: Kontact vs. Nokia In-Reply-To: <880dece00710151323yaa488ds9108f58ac579f555@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710151323yaa488ds9108f58ac579f555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710161052.53705.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi, On Monday 15 October 2007 21:23:29 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I use Kontact as my PIM. I need to have it's information with me on > the go, specifically the addressbook (phone numbers only) and > calander. How can I sync Kontact with a Nokia 6280? If the 6280 is > incapable, what Nokia phone is capable? In theory, anything that claims to support SyncML should work. I've had some limited success with my Nokia N80 (though it's a cr*p phone, and I'm in the process of replacing it), by using opensync. There are various opensync plug-ins in the ubuntu repositories, including the packages: opensync-plugin-evolution - Evolution plugin for opensync opensync-plugin-file - Opensync file plugin opensync-plugin-google-calendar - Opensync Google Calendar plugin opensync-plugin-irmc - IrMC plugin for opensync opensync-plugin-kdepim - KDE plugin for opensync opensync-plugin-palm - Opensync Palm plugin opensync-plugin-palm-dev - Opensync Palm plugin (Development files) opensync-plugin-sunbird - Opensync Mozilla Calendar(Sunbird) plugin opensync-plugin-syncml - Opensync SyncML plugin There are then the opensyncutils and I believe a GUI package too, but I can't find it right now (you might also want to check multisync out as it's just the old name for it). However, I didn't find that they all worked completely smoothly. I was able to sync calendar entries back and forth, but it would sometimes replace things I'd deleted and other times create several copies of everything, which was a real pain as I had to go through and delete them all. I actually achieved best success by using the "file" plugin as an intermediary between the "kdepim" and "syncml" plugins, as there were also issues with caching IIRC. There are some easily findable pages around with the correct settings for syncml for your particular phone. If you do give it a try, and get some success then let me know! HTH, Pete. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Tue Oct 16 09:58:21 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:58:21 -0400 Subject: Kpdf printing blanks In-Reply-To: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710160558.22210.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 16 October 2007, Donn wrote: > Any clues? Is it ghostview gone bad perhaps? Try printing the same PDF with KGhostView and see what happens. Though we've been having enough problems printing PDFs with KGhostView at Rosegarden that we switched the default to favor KPDF instead, so this is probably even more likely not to work. Still, it's a thought. Maybe the common thread between them will reveal a clue or something. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 10:16:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:16:31 +0200 Subject: Kpdf printing blanks In-Reply-To: <200710160558.22210.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710160558.22210.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710161216.31226.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Try printing the same PDF with KGhostView and see what happens. Well, I do see the page in print-preview from kghostview (I won't print cos I can't afford the ink.) Nipped back to kpdf to see if it is having second thoughts, but no--no preview at all. 's very weird. /d From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Tue Oct 16 11:14:19 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:14:19 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems Message-ID: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> I build a new PC at the weekend and decided to install Gutsy Beta on in. For the most part I am happy with it apart from a few problems: 1) I have 2 USB mass storage devices that won't mount, the logs seem to say that it is having problems mounting them. Will post them when I can. 2) I can't play DVD Videos with either Kaffeine or KMPlayer. If I view the properties of the device, the user and group are set to something above 300000!! 3) If I try to do certain things in Konsole like 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab' I'm told that I can't access /var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser/ permissions should be 0 instead of 1000. From list.dhooge at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 11:25:30 2007 From: list.dhooge at gmail.com (Michel D'HOOGE) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:25:30 +0200 Subject: Kpdf printing blanks In-Reply-To: <200710161216.31226.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710160558.22210.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710161216.31226.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710161325.42659.list.dhooge@gmail.com> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 12:16:31 Donn wrote: > Well, I do see the page in print-preview from kghostview (I won't print cos > I can't afford the ink.) I can't understand! If it's blank, it won't cost that much ink. ;-) Otherwise since you mentioned a problem with orientation, you can have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/47649 -- Michel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 11:51:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:51:31 +0200 Subject: Kpdf printing blanks In-Reply-To: <200710161325.42659.list.dhooge@gmail.com> References: <200710161056.55271.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710161216.31226.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710161325.42659.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710161351.31127.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I can't understand! If it's blank, it won't cost that much ink. ;-) True - but that invisible ink costs the most! > Otherwise since you mentioned a problem with orientation, you can have a > look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/47649 Nah - I don't mind nothing at all printed in the wrong orientation :) /d From gohlip at operamail.com Tue Oct 16 13:40:47 2007 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:40:47 +0800 Subject: Keyboarding between tabs in Firefox Message-ID: <20071016134047.56F4F7B7D2@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> > On 10/15/07, Andy Harrison wrote: > > On 10/15/07, john d. herron wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask a question regarding > > > Firefox, but here goes: > > > Does anyone happen to know whether it is possible, in Firefox, to > > navigate > > > between open tabs using the keyboard rather than the mouse? > > > Thanks for your patience; any help will be thankfully appreciated > > > jdh > > > > > > [Ctrl][Tab] > > This won't help you much in KDE, since Ctrl-Tab by default moves you > through your list of workspaces. In my case, I'll have to use Alt-1, > Alt-2, Alt-3... to switch to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd,.. tab (numbers > increase from left to right), respectively. > > It's not overly convenient, in particular if you have many open tabs, > so I still mostly use the mouse... You may want to try an add-on called "Swift Tabs", just remember to set up your preferences on the the keys to use and also check the buttons to disallow the action when the cursor is on an input location. I used to have an open mind But my brains kept falling out. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From joantur at cancullet.org Tue Oct 16 14:15:16 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:15:16 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710161615.18688.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: | 3) If I try to do certain things in Konsole like 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab' | I'm told that I can't access /var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser/ permissions should | be 0 instead of 1000. Try: $ xhost + local:root $ kdesu kate /etc/fstab -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From rick_knight at rlknight.com Tue Oct 16 16:19:46 2007 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:19:46 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: mgetty fax manager enquiries] In-Reply-To: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4714E4A2.9010509@rlknight.com> Denis Gaulin wrote: > Oct 15, 2007 21.27hra > > I send this request once more hoping someone could give me a hint > > Thank you > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > mgetty fax manager enquiries > From: > Denis Gaulin <2050gaulin at videotron.ca> > Date: > Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:40 -0400 > To: > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To: > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Oct. 10, 2007 > > > Hi, my name is Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc. I read most of the queries > and answers on this list and copy those I think important to learn. > This is very good... The more I go the more I enjoy Ubuntu. Evolution is > great for Email ! > Here is my problem. > I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this > OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , > Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a > former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone > RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). > > >From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) > package. > I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen > installed . > the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; > mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice > > However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing > anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. > > The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by > copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile > to specify installation paths . > I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I > have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... > > I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and > Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what > to do to configure and start mgetty to run. > > All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue > all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, > sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. > Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real > configuration? > > I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? > > Thanking you in advance > > Denis Gaulin > > 2050gaulin at videotron.ca > > > I used to rely pretty heavily on being able to fax from my desktop but not so much anymore, so I haven't install any of the fax tools I used to us. But what always worked for me on previous versions of Kubuntu, Slackware and RedHat was mgetty+sendfax, hylafax, tkhylafax and faxprint. Those 4 tools together will give you a very complete desktop/network fax solution. Of course, the only caveat is having a modem that will function with linux. Install those 4 packages, configure mgetty+sendfax, and if you still need help getting it to work, come back here. Rick From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 16 17:42:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:42:07 -0300 Subject: Gwenview Is Not Very Gutsy References: <200710150927.48027.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710161009.48986.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1759725.YVQsET4e97@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Monday 15 October 2007 10:27:47 pm CH wrote: >> >> What is the problem, that Gwenview STILL doesn't show ARCHIVES???? It >> has >> been broken for what, two or three releases!! It was duly reported, the >> problem was confirmed, and still nothing has been done. Guess I'll have >> to copy my old Gwenview onto the box, and blacklist Gutsy's Gwenview >> ...like I >> did with Edgy, Feisty... etc. (how many more etc's, I wonder?). Hm. >> >> >> That's right... not a happy camper. > > Are you sure you're not mistaking gwenview for another application? > Because gwenview is definitely installed on my Gutsy and it's definitely > in the Gutsy repositories. > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/gwenview But it doesn't display archives... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 16 17:40:37 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:40:37 -0300 Subject: Help! References: <758661.71734.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200710151853.45469.BFritzsche@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1496833.pqE0S9X6dT@cedar.serverforest.com> Benjamin Fritzsche wrote: > On Monday 15 October 2007 17:41:36 ndemalia armstrong wrote: >> Hello! Kubuntu community, I'm a really new to linux os..I've been >> educating myself on this OS and i've been able to install it on my >> computer... but I find hard to install the fire fox browser to work well >> on my system so, i could view videos and the likes... i also read abt the >> wine or crossover to run some of the applications i use in >> windows..please i'll appreciate help with this issues.. thanks in >> advance..community.. > > Wine can be quite troublesome, epecially for beginners. If you have a > windows Licence anyway, I'd suggest you try VirtualBox for those annoying > must-use-windows apps. VirtualBox can be quite troublesome, even for experts... I tried virtualBox and it just kept aborting. VMWare works fine, but is not always faster than Wine. Wine, for probably 90% of non-copy-protected software, is a breeze, and so simple to use now that it's hardly worth trying to install a genuine Windows until you already know Wine doesn't work. Here's Derek's 10 second Wine tutorial: - open konsole: # env WINEPREFIX="~/APP" wineprefixcreate # env WINEPREFIX="~/APP" wine "D:\SETUP.EXE" or # env WINEPREFIX="~/APP" wine "D:\INSTALL.EXE" (or whatever the install program is called) # env WINEPREFIX="~/APP" wine "path-to-executable" This creates a separate wine 'bottle' for each application, keeping each in its own sandbox, installs the program into that bottle, and then runs it. -- derek From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 16 21:14:09 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: NFS Question on mounting Message-ID: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to mount a designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has changed since I did this two or three years ago --according to what I can remember, that is. root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: Connection refused root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: Connection refused Pointers appreciated. :) From joantur at cancullet.org Tue Oct 16 21:22:37 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:22:37 +0200 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710162322.39917.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: | I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS | capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to mount a | designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has changed since I | did this two or three years ago --according to what I can remember, that | is. | | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads /media/cdrom0 | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: | Connection refused | | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 | 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: | Connection refused | | Pointers appreciated. :) What's in 192.168.0.20's /etc/exports ? -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Tue Oct 16 21:26:33 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: problems with adept after upgrading Message-ID: <494717.41025.qm@web59308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> this struck me as being a little odd, as i have used adept to update all the time, however i recently used it to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and in doing so i had a series of problems show up that leave me at a loss to explain. first the automated download of the distro upgrade choked and died (system log showed only that process was killed for high memory usage) then adept manager was used to upgrade packages, however it choked out and just disappeared after telling me that installing a package would cause a break. my specific problem currently is with the adept_manager (the add and remove program section works just fine) which when i log in gives me the following message: "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself." the program then give me a backtrace that is seemingly useless, which says: "This backtrace appears to be of no use. This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces, or the stack frame was seriously corrupted in the crash. (no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1"." basically i want to get adept_manager back, any suggestions? thanks in advance jwlockhart ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 16 21:31:57 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:31:57 -0500 Subject: Barry from Sourceforge Message-ID: <200710161631.58715.yogich7230@sc2000.net> In checking out 'Barry', I noted that one of the prerequisites is to have the 'berry_charge' kernel module disabled. My box has always told me I had insufficient current, even when the module was installed, moments ago. Has anyone else done the deed, and installed Barry on kubuntu?? Thanks... ...Yogich From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Tue Oct 16 22:00:23 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:00:23 -0500 Subject: Uninstall Firefox Message-ID: <47153477.3030603@daaokc.com> How can I uninstall firefox without uninstalling everything else adept tells me I need to uninstall. (i.e. eclipse-platform epiphany-browser firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment gnome-office gnome-user-guide mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs yelp) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: darryl.tidd.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 129 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 16 23:14:58 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:14:58 -0500 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710162322.39917.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710162322.39917.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:22:37 Joan Tur wrote: > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: > | I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS > | capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to mount > | a designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has changed since > | I did this two or three years ago --according to what I can remember, > | that is. > | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads > | /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: > | System Error: Connection refused > | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 > | 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 > | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: > | Connection refused > | > | Pointers appreciated. :) > > What's in 192.168.0.20's /etc/exports ? Not sure about 'squash'.  Actually, I did not remember to check this file, either.  Thanks. # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported #               to NFS clients.  See exports(5). /home/yogi/Downloads/ *(rw,async,all_squash) \          Downloads(rw,no_root_squash,sync,wdelay) From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 00:52:47 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:52:47 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] keyboard repeat is inverted Message-ID: <47155CDF.6080006@gmail.com> All of a sudden, when I try to use keyboard repeat, nothing happens until I release the key, then it scrolls the letter across the page. For example, while holding down the "a" key, it just prints one letter "a" .. if I continue to hold it down, no more "a"s get printed. But, when I release it, the line fills with "a"s. The longer I hold it, the longer the string of "a"s. What can I do to fix this? TIA From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 02:11:56 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:11:56 -0400 Subject: [gutsy] keyboard repeat is inverted In-Reply-To: <47155CDF.6080006@gmail.com> References: <47155CDF.6080006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47156F6C.10709@gmail.com> Paul S said the following on 10/16/2007 08:52 PM: > All of a sudden, when I try to use keyboard repeat, nothing happens > until I release the key, then it scrolls the letter across the page. For > example, while holding down the "a" key, it just prints one letter "a" > .. if I continue to hold it down, no more "a"s get printed. But, when I > release it, the line fills with "a"s. The longer I hold it, the longer > the string of "a"s. What can I do to fix this? Some more info .. this seems to happen sometimes after resuming from suspend. Doing a logout / login fixes it. From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Oct 17 03:07:15 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:07:15 +0100 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <47153477.3030603@daaokc.com> References: <47153477.3030603@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <47157C63.9030905@stdin.me.uk> Darryl Tidd wrote: > How can I uninstall firefox without uninstalling everything else adept > tells me I need to uninstall. (i.e. eclipse-platform epiphany-browser > firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome gnome-core > gnome-desktop-environment gnome-office gnome-user-guide > mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs yelp) The simple answer is you can't, all those packages depend on firefox so if you remove firefox those packages need to be removed too. Terence From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Wed Oct 17 03:34:29 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (darryl.tidd) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:34:29 -0500 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <47157C63.9030905@stdin.me.uk> References: <47153477.3030603@daaokc.com> <47157C63.9030905@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <20071017033429.28472.qmail@mail.hostsofamerica.com> Terence Simpson writes: > Darryl Tidd wrote: >> How can I uninstall firefox without uninstalling everything else adept >> tells me I need to uninstall. (i.e. eclipse-platform epiphany-browser >> firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome gnome-core >> gnome-desktop-environment gnome-office gnome-user-guide >> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs yelp) > The simple answer is you can't, all those packages depend on firefox so > if you remove firefox those packages need to be removed too. > > Terence The plot thickens. After sending that email, I alt+tab over to konsole to tell kubuntu no, i don't want to uninstall all that stuff now. A thought I hit n, for no, but appearantly I hit y+enter or just enter(Y being the default), so every thing uninstalled. I then deledted all the mozilla folders, and then typed sudo apt-get install firefox, and only firefox installed. If I try to reinstall gnome* ubuntu-desktop or others, then abunch of other stuff installs, particularly openoffice.org packages. I don't want this because I removed the openoffice packages that came with kubuntu since the base program didn't work properly. I downloaded OO from the openoffice.org site to get the program working properly. That being said, I still have gdm installed and the gnome applications that I use so the things that were uninstalled with firefox aren't missed. I just wish I would have figured it out before posting. Oh well, things are working so I will keep on working. Thanks all Darryl From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Wed Oct 17 06:30:14 2007 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:30:14 +0200 Subject: problems with scanner Epson Perfection V100 Photo Message-ID: <4715ABF6.70006@michaelzoet.de> Hi everybody, I have bought an Epson Perfection V100 Photo scanner. Sane is setup to recognise it as a scanner but when I start to scan get errors... Using xsane I get the following error message: "could not start the scanner, wrong arguments" Is there a way to get this scanner working under Linux? Any HowTos and docs? Or should I send the scanner back? Are there any scanner recommendations for current scanner models that work well with Linux? Regards, Michael From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Wed Oct 17 08:19:40 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:19:40 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox Message-ID: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: > The plot thickens. [. . .] If I understand this correctly, ubuntu-desktop is not a package with actual programs but merely a list of components that make up the default ubuntu desktop (a "metapackage", because its only function is to telly you of other packages). It is useful only for upgrade purposes, and removing it has no effect at all on how your system works (althought it will be messier to upgrade, when the time comes). One of the items on the ubuntu-desktop list is firefox. If you remove the latter, you no longer have all the requisites of the default ubuntu, so the former also goes. If you reinstall ubuntu-desktop, it tries to pull all of its components, so you get back firefox, OpenOffice, and al the stuff that gets installed by default. My advice: if you don't want to have firefox, OpenOffice, etc, just get rid of ubuntu-desktop and the rest of metapackages. They'll make no difference on how your system works. I wish this was better explained in the ububntu documentation, because it seems to be a quite frequent source of confussion. Hope this helps, - Urtzi - -- QOTD: "This is a one line proof... if we start sufficiently far to the left." ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y m�viles desde 1 c�ntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From prlewis at letterboxes.org Wed Oct 17 09:14:13 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:14:13 +0100 Subject: problems with adept after upgrading In-Reply-To: <494717.41025.qm@web59308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <494717.41025.qm@web59308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710171014.14358.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Hi, On Tuesday 16 October 2007 at 22:26:33 joseph lockhart wrote: > my specific problem currently is with the > adept_manager (the add and remove program section > works just fine) which when i log in gives me the > following message: > > "Another process is using the packaging system > database (probably some other Adept application or > apt-get or aptitude). > Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No > will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and > resolve this issue yourself." I had this problem yesterday and managed to fix it somehow.... let's see if I can remember how ;-) The problem came from the fact that a package had begun to be installed, but then it "owned" a file which was already on the system as part of another package. In my case it was some kde4 stuff, which I'd been playing around with. If your problem is actually the same as mine, then the following might help. If you run: sudo apt-get update from the command line, it will try to install something and then give some errors and bail out. If it gives you the error message about two packages both owning the same file (sorry I can't remember the exact message, and obviously can't reproduce it any more), then it gives you the option to try to fix it with: sudo apt-get -f install This did some stuff for me, but then it bailed again. In the end, I uninstalled the offending packages (they weren't critical, luckily, though there were quite a few of them), did the upgrade and then reinstalled them. It seems that the error that adept gives you isn't quite accurate - there isn't necessarily another apt process hanging around, it's just that the previous one didn't finish cleanly. Good luck! HTH. Pete. From matevz.jekovec at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 09:30:59 2007 From: matevz.jekovec at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWF0ZXbFviBKZWtvdmVj?=) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:30:59 +0200 Subject: rt2x00 works! Message-ID: <4715D653.1020002@gmail.com> I want to thank the network and especially knetworkmanager team for making my rt2x00 wireless card to work (ASUS WL107g pcmcia). Using Kubuntu Gutsy, I can out-of-the box connect to unencrypted, WEP or WPA encrypted network. The driver also works just fine if I eject the card in the middle of download. This probably sounds very boring for non-rt2x00 users but in past versions of Ubuntu (and other distros), rt2x00 driver crashed a lot (eg. if you ejected the card while connection is up, I got kernel panic). I needed to recompile the drivers everytime the kernel was upgraded. And finally frontend for the network never actually worked. This is now all gone! You rock! Matevž Jekovec From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 17 10:46:51 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:46:51 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710161615.18688.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710161615.18688.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <200710171146.51330.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 15:15:16 Joan Tur wrote: > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: > | 3) If I try to do certain things in Konsole like 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab' > | I'm told that I can't access /var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser/ permissions > | should be 0 instead of 1000. > > Try: > > $ xhost + local:root > $ kdesu kate /etc/fstab Tried that, but I'm still getting the same result: tfraser at Woody:~$ xhost + local:root non-network local connections being added to access control list tfraser at Woody:~$ kdesu kate /etc/fstab passprompt Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser5Ln3S2" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-tfraserdrY3QV" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-tfraserqmbFNS" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 17 10:51:08 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:51:08 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710171151.08344.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 12:14:19 Mark Fraser wrote: > I build a new PC at the weekend and decided to install Gutsy Beta on in. > For the most part I am happy with it apart from a few problems: > > 1) I have 2 USB mass storage devices that won't mount, the logs seem to say > that it is having problems mounting them. Will post them when I can. I've now copied the logs across from that machine and this is what I get: Oct 17 11:13:10 Woody kernel: [ 6596.811796] usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:11 Woody kernel: [ 6596.954985] usb 5-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Oct 17 11:13:11 Woody kernel: [ 6596.955748] scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6601.948627] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access BUFFALO USB Flash Disk 3.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.135333] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] 503808 512-byte hardware sectors (258 MB) Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.135964] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.138327] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] 503808 512-byte hardware sectors (258 MB) Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.138950] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.138962] sda:<6>usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.499129] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:16 Woody kernel: [ 6602.750743] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.002360] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.253980] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.505593] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.647333] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.647342] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 Oct 17 11:13:17 Woody kernel: [ 6603.647346] printk: 21 messages suppressed. Oct 17 11:13:22 Woody kernel: [ 6608.222259] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK Oct 17 11:13:30 Woody kernel: [ 6615.962605] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 Oct 17 11:13:30 Woody kernel: [ 6615.962613] unable to read partition table Oct 17 11:13:30 Woody kernel: [ 6615.962681] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk Oct 17 11:13:30 Woody kernel: [ 6615.962731] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 Does this help in diagnosing the problem and is it worth posting it as a bug on Launchpad? From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 17 10:53:30 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:53:30 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710171153.30331.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 12:14:19 Mark Fraser wrote: > I build a new PC at the weekend and decided to install Gutsy Beta on in. > For the most part I am happy with it apart from a few problems: > 2) I can't play DVD Videos with either Kaffeine or KMPlayer. If I view the > properties of the device, the user and group are set to something above > 300000!! $ mount gives: /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,user=tfraser) If I bring up the properties of the disc on the desktop, I get a User and Group of 4294967295 My /etc/fstab file contains: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # UUID=d74698cf-a1ff-4417-9a3b-236012c6557c /dev/hda1 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1 # UUID=ef15d2ea-5a54-4df2-9aa7-b35bce32ce0b /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 11:15:32 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:15:32 +0200 Subject: Xming stuff In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0710131757k5d83b2b7la17fec3e9b5806fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710121839.17728.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <5dc6fd9e0710131757k5d83b2b7la17fec3e9b5806fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710171315.32374.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I've had this issue before and solved it be running the following command > in a terminal session: > sudo logout I tried that, but it says something about needing to to use 'exit' instead. Either way it doesn't seem to part the mustard. Also, I've removed the user from sudo (admin group) because I don't want insane stuff to happen down the line. Any other ideas? \d From mdwaps at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 11:31:36 2007 From: mdwaps at gmail.com (Manpreet Dhillon) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Extra Repositries! Message-ID: <3083376.58931192620696547.JavaMail.flurry@flurry6.flurrymail.com> Hello Friends! I have enabled all the available repositries listed in SOURCES.LIST file by uncommenting them. Now I want to know that are there some other repositries except Medibuntu and these default? If yes then please tell me which they are and what type of software they contain. And tell me the repo needed to Install and Update Wine Windows Emulator. Thanks _____________________________ Sent from my phone using flurry - Get free mobile email and news at: http://www.flurry.com From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 12:27:56 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: problems with adept after upgrading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <221009.37844.qm@web59304.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > From: Peter Lewis > Subject: Re: problems with adept after upgrading > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > <200710171014.14358.prlewis at letterboxes.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I had this problem yesterday and managed to fix it > somehow.... let's see if I > can remember how ;-) > > The problem came from the fact that a package had > begun to be installed, but > then it "owned" a file which was already on the > system as part of another > package. In my case it was some kde4 stuff, which > I'd been playing around > with. > > If your problem is actually the same as mine, then > the following might help. > > If you run: > > sudo apt-get update > > from the command line, it will try to install > something and then give some > errors and bail out. If it gives you the error > message about two packages > both owning the same file (sorry I can't remember > the exact message, and > obviously can't reproduce it any more), then it > gives you the option to try > to fix it with: > > sudo apt-get -f install > > This did some stuff for me, but then it bailed > again. In the end, I > uninstalled the offending packages (they weren't > critical, luckily, though > there were quite a few of them), did the upgrade and > then reinstalled them. > > It seems that the error that adept gives you isn't > quite accurate - there > isn't necessarily another apt process hanging > around, it's just that the > previous one didn't finish cleanly. > > Good luck! > > HTH. > > Pete. > Thank you for the quick responce, seems that the cause is similar at least in that adept didn't finish cleanly. It seems that my problem fixed after running sudo apt-get update sudo dpkg --configure -a though running those left me with both the gutsy and the fiesty repositories installed (fiesty repositories were listed under third-party sources) thanks again for your help jwlockhart __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 17 12:25:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:25:00 -0300 Subject: Uninstall Firefox References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <1918693.CLI20nEnOg@cedar.serverforest.com> Galvanick Lucipher wrote: > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: >> The plot thickens. [. . .] > > If I understand this correctly, ubuntu-desktop is not a package with > actual programs but merely a list of components that make up the default > ubuntu desktop (a "metapackage", because its only function is to telly you > of other packages). It is useful only for upgrade purposes, and removing > it has no effect at all on how your system works (althought it will be > messier to upgrade, when the time comes). First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - there's no threading on this message. You're talking about _ubuntu-desktop_. This is absolutely not required for a kubuntu upgrade :-) kubuntu-desktop _doesn't_ rely on firefox. However, the OP said eclipse and other programs were going to be removed - eclipse _may_ need firefox, if it isn't smart enough to just use your default browser. > > I wish this was better explained in the ububntu documentation, because it > seems to be a quite frequent source of confussion. It's a conscious decision by the developers. Not having a clean upgrade path after the user removes the *-desktop metapackage will almost certainly cause even more problems. -- derek From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Oct 17 13:39:45 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:39:45 +0100 Subject: Extra Repositries! In-Reply-To: <3083376.58931192620696547.JavaMail.flurry@flurry6.flurrymail.com> References: <3083376.58931192620696547.JavaMail.flurry@flurry6.flurrymail.com> Message-ID: <471610A1.1040801@stdin.me.uk> Manpreet Dhillon wrote: > Hello Friends! I have enabled all the available repositries listed in SOURCES.LIST file by uncommenting them. Now I want to know that are there some other repositries except Medibuntu and these default? > If yes then please tell me which they are and what type of software they contain. And tell me the repo needed to Install and Update Wine Windows Emulator. > Thanks > _____________________________ > Sent from my phone using flurry - Get free mobile email and news at: http://www.flurry.com > > First off using 3rd party repositories is not recommended, as we can not support the software. If you report a bug on it then the bug will be rejected and, if you need support with it, the community will find it difficult as we don't know what changes the package has from the default. But it's up to you if you do want these repositories or not. Now about WINE, it's not a Windows emulator. In fact WINE stands for (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator, if you want a newer version than what's in the default repositories then you should look at the WINE guide[1] on the Ubuntu help pages[2], you'll also find a lot of information for other software on there, as well as general help. Terence Simpson [1] [2] From slewin at bmts.com Wed Oct 17 13:51:23 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:51:23 -0400 Subject: Extra Repositries! In-Reply-To: <471610A1.1040801@stdin.me.uk> References: <3083376.58931192620696547.JavaMail.flurry@flurry6.flurrymail.com> <471610A1.1040801@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <4716135B.9000503@bmts.com> Terence Simpson wrote: > Manpreet Dhillon wrote: >> Hello Friends! I have enabled all the available repositries listed >> in SOURCES.LIST file by uncommenting them. Now I want to know that >> are there some other repositries except Medibuntu and these >> default? You can check out http://www.apt-get.org/. It haves a large list of unofficial repositories. You can even do a search for a package and the web page will return repositories containing the package. But, as mentioned to you already. It is not recommended you use these 3rd party repositories as the community will have trouble trying to help you if you need help, but, you have the freedom to do as you like. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:31:45 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:31:45 +0200 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710162322.39917.joantur@cancullet.org> <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710170731l466739bcm77ca8a2e4fa0326b@mail.gmail.com> This seems a permission's problem. Check out in the NFS server which are the computers that can mount the FileSystem. It is usually useful also to declare the client names and ip addresses in the /etc/hosts file of the server and declare the server in the /etc/hosts file of the clients. Good luck, Paul. On 10/17/07, CH wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:22:37 Joan Tur wrote: > > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: > > | I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS > > | capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to mount > > | a designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has changed since > > | I did this two or three years ago --according to what I can remember, > > | that is. > > | > > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads > > | /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: > > | System Error: Connection refused > > | > > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 > > | 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 > > | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: > > | Connection refused > > | > > | Pointers appreciated. :) > > > > What's in 192.168.0.20's /etc/exports ? > > > Not sure about 'squash'. Actually, I did not remember to check this file, > either. Thanks. > > # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported > #to NFS clients. See exports(5). > /home/yogi/Downloads/ *(rw,async,all_squash) \ > Downloads(rw,no_root_squash,sync,wdelay) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:36:51 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:36:51 +0200 Subject: DEVEDE Message-ID: <5e33e3860710170736i4fc7c9f9g5cfbe5933e3a7066@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I'm trying to make an ISO image with devede. It's an image of a DIVX movie with subtitles. If I don't put the subtitles then it works fine, but when I put them devede crashes with a stupid error. It says I have no disk space (which is not true) but I can read in the log that the problem is that it is not possible to find the ttf file for the subtitles (devedesans.ttf). I have installed this font, but the problem persists. Does anyone know where should I save this file for devede to be able to use it? Thanks. Paul. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:35:36 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:35:36 +0200 Subject: man vs. kdesu In-Reply-To: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> References: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710171635.36465.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > to overlap. In what situations would you use one instead of the other? I use kdesu when I want a gui of something to run. Let's say it's kcontrol, I can't sudo kcontrol from the command line cos it barfs. But kdesu will run it fine. \d From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Oct 17 15:27:36 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:27:36 +0200 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <471629E8.9060007@rmk.co.il> CH wrote: > I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS capability > installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to mount a designated > share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has changed since I did this two or > three years ago --according to what I can remember, that is. > > root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads /media/cdrom0 > mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: > Connection refused > > root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 > 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 > mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: > Connection refused > > Pointers appreciated. :) > This is my fstab entry: #nfs entry for access to nigels_box 192.168.0.*:/home/nigel /mnt/Home nfs noauto,rw,user,hard,intr 0 0 (all on one line from 192.168.0.*) NB: The * is just to mask my static ip address (and also below) I remember that there is something in NFS that doesn't allow root connections - I always connect as a regular user. Don't forget you need to have entries in /etc/exports; /etc/hosts and /etc/hosts.allow on the server: /etc/exports: /home/nigel 192.168.0.*(sync,rw,root_squash) /etc/hosts: 192.168.0.* laptop.family.net laptop /etc/hosts.allow: ALL: 192.168.0.* portmap: 192.168.0.* lockd: 192.168.0.* mountd: 192.168.0.* rquotad: 192.168.0.* statd: 192.168.0.* HTH Also man nfs Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From joantur at cancullet.org Wed Oct 17 15:40:26 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:40:26 +0200 Subject: Kopete crashes after last upgrade (gutsy) Message-ID: <200710171740.28957.joantur@cancullet.org> Hi, Does the above happen to any of you? If so, have you found any solution? TIA Here's the output when running kopete from konsole: ----- quini at quinilg:~$ libkopete: WARNING: [Kopete::Plugin* Kopete::PluginManager::loadPluginInternal(const QString&)] Unable to find a plugin named 'kopete_sms'! QMetaObject::findSignal:ClientStream: Conflict with Stream::readyRead() Transfer ACCEPTED by: LoginTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: LoginTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: ListTask QGArray::find: Index 0 out of range Transfer ACCEPTED by: ListTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: StatusNotifierTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: MailNotifierTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: StatusNotifierTask Transfer ACCEPTED by: PictureNotifierTask QGArray::find: Index 0 out of range QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key kopete: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : No s'ha pogut crear l'io-slave: klauncher ha dit: Protocol desconegut ''. kopete: KCrash: Application 'kopete' crashing... ----- -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jriddell at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 17 15:50:40 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:50:40 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kopete crashes after last upgrade (gutsy) In-Reply-To: <200710171740.28957.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <200710171740.28957.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <20071017155040.GB17824@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 05:40:26PM +0200, Joan Tur wrote: > Hi, > > Does the above happen to any of you? If so, have you found any solution? This is a known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/153500 comment 15 has a likely fix for people who know how to compile kdelibs. I should have packages this (European) evening. Jonathan From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 15:51:04 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:51:04 +0800 Subject: man vs. kdesu In-Reply-To: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> References: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75e605190710170851n702de0dewe68ddbf9d3678d04@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/07, Michael wrote: > I have read the man pages for both sudo and kdesu. Their functions seem > to overlap. In what situations would you use one instead of the other? kdesu is technically a graphical su for KDE (hence KDE su), but due to Ubuntu's situation with the root account and sudo (and with X), kdesu takes on an added role. This page might explain it better: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 15:54:17 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:54:17 -0600 Subject: man vs. kdesu In-Reply-To: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> References: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710170854yfac02ccw9762e1f5c87c1935@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/07, Michael wrote: > I have read the man pages for both sudo and kdesu. Their functions seem > to overlap. In what situations would you use one instead of the other? I think that kdesu is just a gui wrapper around sudo, so you can use either. However, in a graphical context you'll want to use kdesu. For instance, running a command from will not give you a text prompt for your password with sudo. So use kdesu in that case. Use kdesu when calling a subprocess in a program bcause stdin/stdout may not be useful. OTOH, kdesu requires an X server, so if one is not available (say in a virtual console, or over SSH if you didn't use X forwarding) use sudo. Michael From joantur at cancullet.org Wed Oct 17 17:00:43 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:00:43 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kopete crashes after last upgrade (gutsy) In-Reply-To: <20071017155040.GB17824@muse.19inch.net> References: <200710171740.28957.joantur@cancullet.org> <20071017155040.GB17824@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200710171900.45207.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimecres, 17 de Octubre de 2007, en Jonathan Riddell va escriure: | On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 05:40:26PM +0200, Joan Tur wrote: | > Hi, | > | > Does the above happen to any of you? If so, have you found any solution? | | This is a known issue | | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/153500 | | comment 15 has a likely fix for people who know how to compile | kdelibs. I should have packages this (European) evening. | | Jonathan Fine, thanks! ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Wed Oct 17 17:13:27 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:13:27 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <1918693.CLI20nEnOg@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <1918693.CLI20nEnOg@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710171913.28129.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 14:25:00 Derek Broughton wrote: > First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - there's no > threading on this message. I though I had done it. Sorry. > > You're talking about _ubuntu-desktop_. This is absolutely not required for > a kubuntu upgrade :-) kubuntu-desktop _doesn't_ rely on firefox. The OP talked about ubuntu-desktop, and I addressed his specific concern. Since most of the advice applies equally to the kubuntu metapackages, I thought it could be useful for Kubuntu newbies too. But good point anyway ;-) > However, the OP said eclipse and other programs were going to be removed - > eclipse _may_ need firefox, if it isn't smart enough to just use your > default browser. Oh, I see. Somehow I missed that. > > I wish this was better explained in the ububntu documentation, because it > > seems to be a quite frequent source of confussion. > > It's a conscious decision by the developers. Not having a clean upgrade > path after the user removes the *-desktop metapackage will almost certainly > cause even more problems. Sure, I agree completely. I'm not discussing the logic behind the metapackages; only that their behavior is not explained well enough in the (K)Ubuntu websites or in the documentation. They are confusing to beginners that think they can't remove firefox without wiping their entire system out ;-) -- The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning, and does not stop until you get to school. ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From joantur at cancullet.org Wed Oct 17 17:24:48 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:24:48 +0200 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710162322.39917.joantur@cancullet.org> <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710171924.50027.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimecres, 17 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: | On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:22:37 Joan Tur wrote: | > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: | > | I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS | > | capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to | > | mount a designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has | > | changed since I did this two or three years ago --according to what I | > | can remember, that is. | > | | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads | > | /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: | > | System Error: Connection refused | > | | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 | > | 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 | > | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: | > | Connection refused | > | | > | Pointers appreciated. :) | > | > What's in 192.168.0.20's /etc/exports ? | | Not sure about 'squash'.  Actually, I did not remember to check this file, | either.  Thanks. | | # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be | exported #               to NFS clients.  See exports(5). | /home/yogi/Downloads/ *(rw,async,all_squash) \ |          Downloads(rw,no_root_squash,sync,wdelay) Are the above the exact contents of /etc/exports? Mine's got lines like the following one: /hda3 192.168.0.4(rw,no_root_squash,async) Also, have you checked portmap, nfsd & rpc.mountd are running in the server side? They are provided by portmap, nfs-common & nfs-kernel-server services. Hope that helps ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From joantur at cancullet.org Wed Oct 17 17:28:37 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:28:37 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710171146.51330.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710161615.18688.joantur@cancullet.org> <200710171146.51330.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710171928.38827.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimecres, 17 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: | On Tuesday 16 October 2007 15:15:16 Joan Tur wrote: | > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: | > | 3) If I try to do certain things in Konsole like 'kdesu kate | > | /etc/fstab' I'm told that I can't access /var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser/ | > | permissions should be 0 instead of 1000. | > | > Try: | > | > $ xhost + local:root | > $ kdesu kate /etc/fstab | | Tried that, but I'm still getting the same result: | | tfraser at Woody:~$ xhost + local:root | non-network local connections being added to access control list I was wrong (I read sudo kate instead of kdesu kate); you can try logging out, then switching to a text console, removing all /var/tmp/kde* directories and logging in again? Hope that helps ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 17 17:39:37 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:39:37 -0300 Subject: man vs. kdesu References: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> <75e605190710170851n702de0dewe68ddbf9d3678d04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8472234.3xiDjrUGaN@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On 10/17/07, Michael wrote: >> I have read the man pages for both sudo and kdesu. Their functions seem >> to overlap. In what situations would you use one instead of the other? > > kdesu is technically a graphical su for KDE (hence KDE su), but due to > Ubuntu's situation with the root account and sudo (and with X), kdesu > takes on an added role. Not really an "added role". kdesu is just set to request _your_ password, instead of the root password - which is consistent with sudo rather than su. -- derek From spwhite at freesurf.ch Wed Oct 17 18:25:30 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:25:30 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <200710171913.28129.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <1918693.CLI20nEnOg@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710171913.28129.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:13, Galvanick Lucipher wrote: > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 14:25:00 Derek Broughton wrote: > > First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - there's no > > threading on this message. > >         I though I had done it. Sorry. I think you have done it,Galvanick, from my threading tree it looks as if you answered the first mail from Darryl Tidd (dated Today 00:00:23) instead of the secons mail (darryl.tidd dated Today 05:34:29),but... View/Headers/All Header tells me you replied to the second mail. I just can't figure that out, could be a minor bug or a quirk? You probably are not responsible for that. Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #277: Your Flux Capacitor has gone bad From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 17 18:35:02 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:35:02 -0500 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <200710171924.50027.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710171924.50027.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <200710171335.02805.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 12:24:48 Joan Tur wrote: > Es Dimecres, 17 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: > | On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:22:37 Joan Tur wrote: > | > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en CH va escriure: > | > | I have Dapper on the server, Gutsy on one of the notebooks, and NFS > | > | capability installed on both, as far as I know. When I attempt to > | > | mount a designated share, I get errors. Frankly, the syntax has > | > | changed since I did this two or three years ago --according to what I > | > | can remember, that is. > | > | > | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 192.168.0.20:/Downloads > | > | /media/cdrom0 mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: > | > | System Error: Connection refused > | > | > | > | root at laptop:/home/yogich# mount.nfs4 > | > | 192.168.0.20:/home/yogi/Downloads /media/cdrom0 > | > | mount.nfs4: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.20' failed: System Error: > | > | Connection refused > | > | > | > | Pointers appreciated. :) > | > > | > What's in 192.168.0.20's /etc/exports ? > | > | Not sure about 'squash'.  Actually, I did not remember to check this > | file, either.  Thanks. > | > | # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be > | exported #               to NFS clients.  See exports(5). > | /home/yogi/Downloads/ *(rw,async,all_squash) \ > |          Downloads(rw,no_root_squash,sync,wdelay) > > Are the above the exact contents of /etc/exports? Mine's got lines like > the following one: > > /hda3 192.168.0.4(rw,no_root_squash,async) > > Also, have you checked portmap, nfsd & rpc.mountd are running in the server > side? They are provided by portmap, nfs-common & nfs-kernel-server > services. > > Hope that helps ;) Yes, I copied/pasted the file's contents so there would be no error. I will keep digging. Thank you for all your help! :) ...Yogich From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 17 18:36:18 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:36:18 -0500 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710170731l466739bcm77ca8a2e4fa0326b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710161814.59406.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <5e33e3860710170731l466739bcm77ca8a2e4fa0326b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710171336.18286.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 09:31:45 Paul wrote: > This seems a permission's problem. > > Check out in the NFS server which are the computers that can mount the > FileSystem. It is usually useful also to declare the client names and > ip addresses in the /etc/hosts file of the server and declare the > server in the /etc/hosts file of the clients. > > Good luck, > Paul. > I'll do that. Thank you, very much. :) ...Yogich From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 17 18:37:33 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (CH) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:37:33 -0500 Subject: NFS Question on mounting In-Reply-To: <471629E8.9060007@rmk.co.il> References: <200710161614.10325.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471629E8.9060007@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200710171337.33295.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 10:27:36 Nigel Ridley wrote: > > This is my fstab entry: > #nfs entry for access to nigels_box > 192.168.0.*:/home/nigel /mnt/Home nfs noauto,rw,user,hard,intr 0 0 > (all on one line from 192.168.0.*) > NB: The * is just to mask my static ip address (and also below) > > I remember that there is something in NFS that doesn't allow root > connections - I always connect as a regular user. > > Don't forget you need to have entries in /etc/exports; /etc/hosts and > /etc/hosts.allow on the server: > /etc/exports: > /home/nigel 192.168.0.*(sync,rw,root_squash) > /etc/hosts: > 192.168.0.* laptop.family.net laptop > > /etc/hosts.allow: > ALL: 192.168.0.* > portmap: 192.168.0.* > lockd: 192.168.0.* > mountd: 192.168.0.* > rquotad: 192.168.0.* > statd: 192.168.0.* > > HTH > > Also man nfs > > Blessings, > > Nigel > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ You have pointed out some things I do not remember doing, the last time I had to set this up. Thank you, very much. :) I'll look into this. ...Yogich From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Wed Oct 17 18:37:58 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:37:58 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <200710171913.28129.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710172037.58659.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 20:25:30 Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > I think you have done it,Galvanick, from my threading tree it looks as if > you answered the first mail from Darryl Tidd (dated Today 00:00:23) instead > of the secons mail (darryl.tidd dated Today 05:34:29),but... > View/Headers/All Header tells me you replied to the second mail. Yes, that's what I've done. I've answered the second mail. > I just can't figure that out, could be a minor bug or a quirk? Strange; it's the first time it happens to me. > You probably are not responsible for that. Glad to know. Thank you, Perry! -- To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead. -- Bertrand Russell ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From p4cldba at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 19:10:25 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:10:25 -0700 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp Message-ID: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. Any suggestions! thanks -prasad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave6502 at googlemail.com Wed Oct 17 20:08:33 2007 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:08:33 +0100 Subject: App to auto turn off computer if idle for length of time In-Reply-To: <1kvaq4-ftu.ln1@pointerstop.ca> References: <6pi8q4-8jj.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <200708262255.06363.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <1kvaq4-ftu.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Did a bit of hacking - the following works for me & helps save the planet :) Cheers Dave #!/usr/bin/env python # Small script to shut down the PC after shutdownMins providing there has been no mouse / keyboard # activity, a low load average and a low TCP download rate ... ie system truely idle import xf86misc, os, time, tempfile ethPort = 'eth1' shutdownMins = 60 debug = False def loadAverage(): tempFile = tempfile.mktemp() os.system("uptime > " + tempFile) f = open(tempFile, 'r') uptime = f.read() loadAv = float(uptime.split()[8][:-1]) f.close() os.remove(tempFile) return loadAv def netPackets(): tempFile = tempfile.mktemp() os.system("netstat -i > " + tempFile) f = open(tempFile, 'r') netstat = f.readlines() # only interested in TCP downloaded packets via ethPort for line in netstat: if line[:4] == ethPort: break numPackets = int(line.split()[3]) f.close() os.remove(tempFile) return numPackets def main(): if debug: print 'auto_shutdown is starting up ...' # Sleep till X is up & running time.sleep(5) loadCount = netCount = idleCount = 0 oldNumPackets = netPackets() shutdownCount = shutdownMins / 5 xg = xf86misc.XF86Server() xscreen = xg.getDefaultScreen() oldIdle = xscreen.getIdleSeconds() while True: # Filters out optical mouse jitter idleMinCount = 0 for i in xrange(5): time.sleep(60) idle = xscreen.getIdleSeconds() idleDiff = idle - oldIdle oldIdle = idle if idleDiff > 59: idleMinCount += 1 if idleMinCount >= 3: idleCount += 1 else: idleCount = 0 loadAv = loadAverage() if loadAv < 0.75: loadCount += 1 else: loadCount = 0 numPackets = netPackets() numPacketsDiff = numPackets - oldNumPackets oldNumPackets = numPackets if numPacketsDiff < 600: netCount += 1 else: netCount = 0 if debug: print 'load count=' + str(loadCount) + ' network count=' + str(netCount) + ' idle count=' + str(idleCount) +' shutdown count=' + str(shutdownCount) if loadCount >= shutdownCount and netCount >= shutdownCount and idleCount >= shutdownCount: os.system('/usr/bin/dcop --all-sessions --all-users ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 0 &> /dev/null') # Idealy sould be along the lines of .... but no luck & no time to fix :) #computerObject = dbus.bus.get_object("org.freedesktop.Hal", u'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer') #computerObject.Shutdown(dbus_interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement") if __name__ == "__main__": main() From jferrando at netplc.com Wed Oct 17 20:54:44 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:54:44 +0200 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47167694.2070900@netplc.com> Prasad escribió: > Hi, > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > Any suggestions! > > thanks > -prasad Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? 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URL: From p4cldba at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 21:04:25 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:04:25 -0700 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <47167694.2070900@netplc.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167694.2070900@netplc.com> Message-ID: <666b99c70710171404t1594ad50q5f1247e81d84cbed@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jordi, yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig it shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 but it doesnt show for eth0. thank. -Prasad On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > Prasad escribió: > > Hi, > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > Any suggestions! > > thanks > -prasad > > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > $ ifconfig > See what it displays > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jferrando at netplc.com Wed Oct 17 21:31:20 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:31:20 +0200 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710171404t1594ad50q5f1247e81d84cbed@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167694.2070900@netplc.com> <666b99c70710171404t1594ad50q5f1247e81d84cbed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> Can you see what you have in the file $ cat /etc/network/interfaces My system show something like (I use static addreses): $ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.44.150 netmask 255.255.255.0 auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 10.0.40.249 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.0.40.1 auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp auto ath0 iface ath0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp If you do not whish to edit this file, you can also set your network configuration using "system settings", in the kubuntu menu. Prasad escribió: > Hi Jordi, > > yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig > it shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 > but it doesnt show for eth0. > > thank. > -Prasad > > > On 10/17/07, *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > wrote: > > Prasad escribió: >> Hi, >> >> I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. >> >> Any suggestions! >> >> thanks >> -prasad > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > $ ifconfig > See what it displays > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 17 21:33:53 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:33:53 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710171153.30331.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710171153.30331.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710172233.53671.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 11:53:30 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2007 12:14:19 Mark Fraser wrote: > > I build a new PC at the weekend and decided to install Gutsy Beta on in. > > For the most part I am happy with it apart from a few problems: > > > > 2) I can't play DVD Videos with either Kaffeine or KMPlayer. If I view > > the properties of the device, the user and group are set to something > > above 300000!! I've now solved this one, something to do with libdvdcss. From p4cldba at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 22:13:27 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:13:27 -0700 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167694.2070900@netplc.com> <666b99c70710171404t1594ad50q5f1247e81d84cbed@mail.gmail.com> <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> Message-ID: <666b99c70710171513x570bc469l1969498905d1c5a0@mail.gmail.com> I see something like this auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp auto ath0 iface ath0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp somehow the ip address dont show up. On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > Can you see what you have in the file > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > My system show something like (I use static addreses): > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > address 127.0.0.1 > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.44.150 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet static > address 10.0.40.249 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > gateway 10.0.40.1 > > auto eth2 > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > auto ath0 > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > auto wlan0 > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > If you do not whish to edit this file, you can also set your network > configuration using "system settings", in the kubuntu menu. > > Prasad escribió: > > Hi Jordi, > > yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig it > shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 but it doesnt > show for eth0. > > thank. > -Prasad > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > Hi, > > > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > > > Any suggestions! > > > > thanks > > -prasad > > > > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > > $ ifconfig > > See what it displays > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Oct 17 23:04:40 2007 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:04:40 -0400 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710171513x570bc469l1969498905d1c5a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> <666b99c70710171513x570bc469l1969498905d1c5a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710171904.40808.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Wednesday 17 October 2007, Prasad wrote: There ya go. eth0 is trying to get an IP via DHCP. > I see something like this > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > address 127.0.0.1 > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > auto eth2 > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > auto ath0 > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > auto wlan0 > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > somehow the ip address dont show up. > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > Can you see what you have in the file > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > > My system show something like (I use static addreses): > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > auto lo > > iface lo inet loopback > > address 127.0.0.1 > > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > auto eth0 > > iface eth0 inet static > > address 192.168.44.150 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > auto eth1 > > iface eth1 inet static > > address 10.0.40.249 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > gateway 10.0.40.1 > > > > auto eth2 > > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > > > auto ath0 > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > > > auto wlan0 > > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > > > If you do not whish to edit this file, you can also set your network > > configuration using "system settings", in the kubuntu menu. > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > Hi Jordi, > > > > yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig it > > shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 but it doesnt > > show for eth0. > > > > thank. > > -Prasad > > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > > > > > Any suggestions! > > > > > > thanks > > > -prasad > > > > > > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > > > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > > > $ ifconfig > > > See what it displays > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From n5dlt at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 00:04:20 2007 From: n5dlt at yahoo.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <170523.75459.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This has been an interesting trip. My initial plan was this. I installed Kubuntu on a computer with WinXP. Therefore, when I installed Kubuntu pulled in all my settings and stuff for firefox, including add-ons. I was trying to remove an add-on but couldn't. I followed the usual uninstall steps, and also the manual uninstall directions posted on a Ubuntu website. Nothing seemed to work. Therefore I was going to remove firefox, delete all related directories and reinstall. (like you can do in winXP). I guess, being a newbie, I didn't really understand all the dependency issues. Hitting the wrong key didn't help either. I did uninstall firefox. It has been reinstalled with associated (dependant) programs. I have added the add-ons, and will make any other necessary changes. I have not lost any data or other important things, so that is the good thing. Thanks for all the responses and help. Darryl Galvanick Lucipher wrote: On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: > The plot thickens. [. . .] If I understand this correctly, ubuntu-desktop is not a package with actual programs but merely a list of components that make up the default ubuntu desktop (a "metapackage", because its only function is to telly you of other packages). It is useful only for upgrade purposes, and removing it has no effect at all on how your system works (althought it will be messier to upgrade, when the time comes). One of the items on the ubuntu-desktop list is firefox. If you remove the latter, you no longer have all the requisites of the default ubuntu, so the former also goes. If you reinstall ubuntu-desktop, it tries to pull all of its components, so you get back firefox, OpenOffice, and al the stuff that gets installed by default. My advice: if you don't want to have firefox, OpenOffice, etc, just get rid of ubuntu-desktop and the rest of metapackages. They'll make no difference on how your system works. I wish this was better explained in the ububntu documentation, because it seems to be a quite frequent source of confussion. Hope this helps, - Urtzi - -- QOTD: "This is a one line proof... if we start sufficiently far to the left." Darryl Tidd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Thu Oct 18 00:56:58 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:56:58 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: mgetty fax manager enquiries] In-Reply-To: <4714E4A2.9010509@rlknight.com> References: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4714E4A2.9010509@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <1192669018.5265.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le 17 oct., 2007 Thank you Rick, I will get under way to download these packages ans see what happen. It is true I do not use much fax nowaday but often I need to send faxes to hospital administration and purchasing dept. people for my work. And these people like to have fax as a confirmation of quotes or other discussions. Right now I use my other Mac 10.4 computer . To close I may get back to yoou for help.... Denis Gauiin Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 09:19 -0700, Rick Knight a écrit : > Denis Gaulin wrote: > > Oct 15, 2007 21.27hra > > > > I send this request once more hoping someone could give me a hint > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: > > mgetty fax manager enquiries > > From: > > Denis Gaulin <2050gaulin at videotron.ca> > > Date: > > Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:40 -0400 > > To: > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > To: > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Oct. 10, 2007 > > > > > > Hi, my name is Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc. I read most of the queries > > and answers on this list and copy those I think important to learn. > > This is very good... The more I go the more I enjoy Ubuntu. Evolution is > > great for Email ! > > Here is my problem. > > I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this > > OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , > > Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a > > former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone > > RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). > > > > >From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) > > package. > > I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen > > installed . > > the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; > > mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice > > > > However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing > > anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. > > > > The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by > > copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile > > to specify installation paths . > > I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I > > have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... > > > > I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and > > Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what > > to do to configure and start mgetty to run. > > > > All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue > > all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, > > sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. > > Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real > > configuration? > > > > I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? > > > > Thanking you in advance > > > > Denis Gaulin > > > > 2050gaulin at videotron.ca > > > > > > > > I used to rely pretty heavily on being able to fax from my desktop but > not so much anymore, so I haven't install any of the fax tools I used to > us. But what always worked for me on previous versions of Kubuntu, > Slackware and RedHat was mgetty+sendfax, hylafax, tkhylafax and > faxprint. Those 4 tools together will give you a very complete > desktop/network fax solution. Of course, the only caveat is having a > modem that will function with linux. > > Install those 4 packages, configure mgetty+sendfax, and if you still > need help getting it to work, come back here. > > Rick > From p4cldba at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 01:23:13 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:23:13 -0700 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <200710171904.40808.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> <666b99c70710171513x570bc469l1969498905d1c5a0@mail.gmail.com> <200710171904.40808.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <666b99c70710171823l2d7113efx475c9ff8b90c6549@mail.gmail.com> I changed bridged to NAT and now the vm guest os kubuntu is able to connect to internet. On 10/17/07, Brendan wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 October 2007, Prasad wrote: > > There ya go. eth0 is trying to get an IP via DHCP. > > > I see something like this > > > > auto lo > > iface lo inet loopback > > address 127.0.0.1 > > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > auto eth0 > > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > > > auto eth1 > > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > > > auto eth2 > > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > > > auto ath0 > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > > > auto wlan0 > > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > > > somehow the ip address dont show up. > > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > > Can you see what you have in the file > > > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > > > > My system show something like (I use static addreses): > > > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > auto lo > > > iface lo inet loopback > > > address 127.0.0.1 > > > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > > > auto eth0 > > > iface eth0 inet static > > > address 192.168.44.150 > > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > auto eth1 > > > iface eth1 inet static > > > address 10.0.40.249 > > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > gateway 10.0.40.1 > > > > > > auto eth2 > > > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto ath0 > > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto wlan0 > > > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > > > > > If you do not whish to edit this file, you can also set your network > > > configuration using "system settings", in the kubuntu menu. > > > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > > > Hi Jordi, > > > > > > yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig > it > > > shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 but it > doesnt > > > show for eth0. > > > > > > thank. > > > -Prasad > > > > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions! > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > -prasad > > > > > > > > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > > > > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > > > > $ ifconfig > > > > See what it displays > > > > > > > > -- > > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p4cldba at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 01:33:01 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:33:01 -0700 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure Message-ID: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> All, I have kubuntu as my guest OS in vmware on windows xp. How do I see the C drive from inside kubuntu. thanks in advance. -prasad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Thu Oct 18 02:44:19 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:44:19 -0400 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 18:33 -0700, Prasad wrote: > All, > > I have kubuntu as my guest OS in vmware on windows xp. How do I see > the C drive from inside kubuntu. Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using Samba. Have you tried that? Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "There is no "royal road" to geometry." -- Euclid -- Said to king Ptolemy I From p4cldba at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 03:32:05 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:32:05 -0700 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> hi Kevin. yes , I have installed sambafs in kubuntu. but seems I am doing somewhere wrong in the syntax. Can you please give me the syntax . thanks -Prasad On 10/17/07, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 18:33 -0700, Prasad wrote: > > All, > > > > I have kubuntu as my guest OS in vmware on windows xp. How do I see > > the C drive from inside kubuntu. > > Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual > machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using > Samba. Have you tried that? > > Regards, > > -- > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > "There is no "royal road" to geometry." -- Euclid -- Said to king > Ptolemy I > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 05:30:51 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:30:51 +0200 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710180730.51114.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual > > machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using > > Samba. Have you tried that? On Samba I'll give my obligatory answer "abandon all hope" (unless you have scads of time to hack.) Why not try something more direct? 1. setup an FTP server 2. setup Apache and access folders in a browser 3. setup ssh (much easier than samba). You can do all three on both osses (is that even a word?) and that will give you good to and fro. There are some nice easy free apps for Windows ssh - putty is a good start. I know that on qemu (another vm thing) you can setup networking between the vm-os and the host, perhaps there's something like it in vmware. hth /d From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 08:14:36 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:14:36 +0800 Subject: man vs. kdesu In-Reply-To: <8472234.3xiDjrUGaN@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47161BA7.4080706@gmail.com> <75e605190710170851n702de0dewe68ddbf9d3678d04@mail.gmail.com> <8472234.3xiDjrUGaN@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710181614.36682.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 October 2007 1:39:37 am Derek Broughton wrote: > Not really an "added role". kdesu is just set to request _your_ password, > instead of the root password - which is consistent with sudo rather than > su. True. But kdesu wasn't really made with sudo in mind. iirc, it was a patch from Kubuntu that allowed kdesu to use sudo. Notice that kdesu doesn't remember passwords for a given time the way sudo does. This is what led to kdesudo in Gutsy. Another "added" role for kdesu in Kubuntu is to prevent messing up .ICEauthority and stuff (not sure which files exactly) when you launch GUI apps as root. Hence the "use kdesu instead of sudo for GUI apps" rule. AFAIK, in other distros, since kdesu uses su by default, it doesn't matter much whether you use sudo or kdesu. I might be wrong on this one though. :D Cheers! From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 17 19:26:12 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:26:12 -0300 Subject: Uninstall Firefox References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <1918693.CLI20nEnOg@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710171913.28129.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <6790191.6qLGUpcFRs@cedar.serverforest.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:13, Galvanick Lucipher wrote: >> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 14:25:00 Derek Broughton wrote: >> > First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - there's >> > no threading on this message. >> >> I though I had done it. Sorry. > > I think you have done it,Galvanick, from my threading tree it looks as if > you answered the first mail from Darryl Tidd (dated Today 00:00:23) > instead of > the secons mail (darryl.tidd dated Today 05:34:29),but... > View/Headers/All Header tells me you replied to the second mail. > > I just can't figure that out, could be a minor bug or a quirk? > > You probably are not responsible for that. Perhaps not, but I don't see any "References" or "In-Reply-To" header in Galvanick's post. You'll see it threaded if you use a mail program that permits pseudo-threading by matching the Subject. -- derek From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu Oct 18 11:21:11 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:21:11 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy problems In-Reply-To: <200710171928.38827.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <200710161214.19278.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710171146.51330.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710171928.38827.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <200710181221.11812.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 18:28:37 Joan Tur wrote: > Es Dimecres, 17 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: > | On Tuesday 16 October 2007 15:15:16 Joan Tur wrote: > | > Es Dimarts, 16 de Octubre de 2007, en Mark Fraser va escriure: > | > | 3) If I try to do certain things in Konsole like 'kdesu kate > | > | /etc/fstab' I'm told that I can't access /var/tmp/kdecache-tfraser/ > | > | permissions should be 0 instead of 1000. > | > > | > Try: > | > > | > $ xhost + local:root > | > $ kdesu kate /etc/fstab > | > | Tried that, but I'm still getting the same result: > | > | tfraser at Woody:~$ xhost + local:root > | non-network local connections being added to access control list > > I was wrong (I read sudo kate instead of kdesu kate); you can try logging > out, then switching to a text console, removing all /var/tmp/kde* > directories and logging in again? > > Hope that helps ;) I've just live booted into 7.10 RC1 on a different computer and I get the same messages when I try to do something either with sudo or kdesu. From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Thu Oct 18 12:03:27 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:03:27 -0400 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1192709007.6110.73.camel@tregonsee> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:32 -0700, Prasad wrote: > hi Kevin. > > yes , I have installed sambafs in kubuntu. but seems I am doing > somewhere wrong in the syntax. > Can you please give me the syntax . > > thanks > -Prasad Well, I tend to use Krusader for my file browsing, but it should work the same in Konqueror. I just use the name I have given my XP installation (e.g. "foobar"), and in the address bar I just type "smb://foobar". Oh, and you need to have shared some drive or directory on the Windows side or you won't see much. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Conservative: One who admires radicals centuries after they're dead." -- Leo C. Rosten From jriddell at ubuntu.com Thu Oct 18 11:59:33 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:59:33 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released Message-ID: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> Get it while it's hot. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php While the cache updates the mirror links are at http://kubuntu.org/download2.php Jonathan From paulatgm at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 12:23:54 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:23:54 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> Jonathan Riddell said the following on 10/18/2007 07:59 AM: > Get it while it's hot. > > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php > > While the cache updates the mirror links are at > > http://kubuntu.org/download2.php > > Jonathan > Another great job! I'll help with a torrent. thanks, From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 14:51:36 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:51:36 +0200 Subject: Text to Speech in KDE Message-ID: <880dece00710180751p3c8c5f3eiea59f9e73d0d118a@mail.gmail.com> How does one actuate the text to speech function of KDE? The only way that I see is to copy text to Kmouth. Can other KDE apps perform this function? How about non-KDE apps, such as Firefox and Open Office? Note that the speech test in Kcontrol works, but Kmouth is silent for me. How can I troubleshoot it? Also, how can I add different voices? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From spwhite at freesurf.ch Thu Oct 18 17:49:19 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:49:19 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <6790191.6qLGUpcFRs@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <6790191.6qLGUpcFRs@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710181949.19813.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 21:26, Derek Broughton wrote: > Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:13, Galvanick Lucipher wrote: > >> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 14:25:00 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> > First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - there's > >> > no threading on this message. > >> > >> I though I had done it. Sorry. > > > > I think you have done it,Galvanick, from my threading tree it looks as if > > you answered the first mail from Darryl Tidd (dated Today 00:00:23) > > instead of > > the secons mail (darryl.tidd dated Today 05:34:29),but... > > View/Headers/All Header tells me you replied to the second mail. Ooops, sorry, I must have checked another mail. Your following comment applies perfectly. Strange thing is that Galvanick's mail had the following lines: .... On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: .... > The plot thickens. [. . .] It is hard to belive Galvanick would have forged them. > > > > I just can't figure that out, could be a minor bug or a quirk? > > > > You probably are not responsible for that. > > Perhaps not, but I don't see any "References" or "In-Reply-To" header in > Galvanick's post. You'll see it threaded if you use a mail program that > permits pseudo-threading by matching the Subject. > -- > derek -- BOFH excuse #196: Me no internet, only janitor, me just wax floors From kaganreuben at yandex.ru Thu Oct 18 20:17:21 2007 From: kaganreuben at yandex.ru (Reuben Kagan) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:17:21 +0400 Subject: Text to Speech in KDE In-Reply-To: 9060000000089284117 References: 9060000000089284117 Message-ID: <134241192738641@webmail42.yandex.ru> Look at the festival. And on KTTS : http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/ 18.10.07, 18:51, Dotan Cohen (dotancohen at gmail.com): > How does one actuate the text to speech function of KDE? The only way > that I see is to copy text to Kmouth. Can other KDE apps perform this > function? How about non-KDE apps, such as Firefox and Open Office? > Note that the speech test in Kcontrol works, but Kmouth is silent for > me. How can I troubleshoot it? Also, how can I add different voices? > Thanks in advance. > Dotan Cohen > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- .RK. From bach.michael at gmx.net Thu Oct 18 20:28:33 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:28:33 +0200 Subject: storage media dialog (7.10) Message-ID: <4717C1F1.5060905@gmx.net> Hello all, I have recently upgraded from 6.10 to 7.10. Everything went ok, with the exception of a few glitches. Most prominent fail is the absence of the media dialog which appears when a new medium (cd, usb-drive, sd-card,...) is attached to the system (The one where kubuntu asks what to do with the content). I can re-initiate the dialog if I just change a minor setting. For example if I check "Enable medium application autostart after mount", click apply, uncheck "Enable ..." and click ok. This is in "Settings"->"Control Center"->"Peripherals"->"Storage Media"->"Advanced" Now, after plugging in an external disk, the dialog shows up as normal. After a reboot the dialog does not show up again until I repeat the above procedure. Anybody know how to fix this? Mike From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 20:35:12 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:35:12 +0200 Subject: No KDE yet? Message-ID: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> I prefer installing KDE over the standard Ubuntu install. However, in Gutsy I'm getting that kde-core is not installable because of unmet dependencies. Is this a problem of the repos not being updated yet? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From manchicken at notsosoft.net Thu Oct 18 20:41:53 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Michael D. Stemle, Jr.) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:41:53 -0500 Subject: No KDE yet? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> The repos are being considerably SLAMMED I imagine. I'd try running an apt-get update and hoping for the best. You may have to wait until some of the update-frenzy dies down before going again. On Thursday 18 October 2007 15:35:12 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I prefer installing KDE over the standard Ubuntu install. However, in > Gutsy I'm getting that kde-core is not installable because of unmet > dependencies. Is this a problem of the repos not being updated yet? > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 20:48:13 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:48:13 -0500 Subject: No KDE yet? In-Reply-To: <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> References: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0710181348y7c86e171i5559bb24624a96e6@mail.gmail.com> On 10/18/07, Michael D. Stemle, Jr. wrote: > The repos are being considerably SLAMMED I imagine. I'd try running an > apt-get update and hoping for the best. You may have to wait until some of > the update-frenzy dies down before going again. > > On Thursday 18 October 2007 15:35:12 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I prefer installing KDE over the standard Ubuntu install. However, in > > Gutsy I'm getting that kde-core is not installable because of unmet > > dependencies. Is this a problem of the repos not being updated yet? > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת yeah, I spent a while cleaning up my sources.list and getting everything in order with the new naming scheme and the US repo's would sometimes just not come back with a response for like 5 minutes. I'd use ktorrent, pull down the CD since it's WELL hosted, then mount the disc as a repo and see if that would do it. Greg From manchicken at notsosoft.net Thu Oct 18 21:06:50 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Michael D. Stemle, Jr.) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:06:50 -0500 Subject: No KDE yet? In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710181348y7c86e171i5559bb24624a96e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <720b310e0710181348y7c86e171i5559bb24624a96e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710181606.50594.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Thursday 18 October 2007 15:48:13 Greg Booth wrote: > On 10/18/07, Michael D. Stemle, Jr. wrote: > > The repos are being considerably SLAMMED I imagine. I'd try running an > > apt-get update and hoping for the best. You may have to wait until some > > of the update-frenzy dies down before going again. > > > > On Thursday 18 October 2007 15:35:12 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I prefer installing KDE over the standard Ubuntu install. However, in > > > Gutsy I'm getting that kde-core is not installable because of unmet > > > dependencies. Is this a problem of the repos not being updated yet? > > > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > http://gibberish.co.il > > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > yeah, I spent a while cleaning up my sources.list and getting > everything in order with the new naming scheme and the US repo's would > sometimes just not come back with a response for like 5 minutes. > > I'd use ktorrent, pull down the CD since it's WELL hosted, then mount > the disc as a repo and see if that would do it. > > Greg That should do it. From franka at svpal.org Thu Oct 18 21:53:19 2007 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:53:19 -0700 Subject: Text to Speech in KDE In-Reply-To: <134241192738641@webmail42.yandex.ru> References: 9060000000089284117 <134241192738641@webmail42.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <4717D5CF.2040008@svpal.org> Reuben Kagan wrote: > Look at the festival. > And on KTTS : > http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/ > > 18.10.07, 18:51, Dotan Cohen (dotancohen at gmail.com): > > >> How does one actuate the text to speech function of KDE? The only way >> that I see is to copy text to Kmouth. Can other KDE apps perform this >> function? How about non-KDE apps, such as Firefox and Open Office? >> Note that the speech test in Kcontrol works, but Kmouth is silent for >> me. How can I troubleshoot it? Also, how can I add different voices? >> Thanks in advance. >> Dotan Cohen >> http://what-is-what.com >> http://gibberish.co.il >> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > -- > .RK. > > Along the same lines, does anyone know if a Speech to Text programs is available in open source? Or know if Dragon Naturally Speaking will work with Wine? Frank Arnold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rick_knight at rlknight.com Thu Oct 18 22:16:43 2007 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: mgetty fax manager enquiries] In-Reply-To: <1192669018.5265.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4714E4A2.9010509@rlknight.com> <1192669018.5265.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4717DB4B.5030605@rlknight.com> Denis Gaulin wrote: > Le 17 oct., 2007 > > Thank you Rick, I will get under way to download these packages ans see > what happen. > > It is true I do not use much fax nowaday but often I need to send faxes > to hospital administration and purchasing dept. people for my work. And > these people like to have fax as a confirmation of quotes or other > discussions. > > Right now I use my other Mac 10.4 computer . > > To close I may get back to yoou for help.... > > Denis Gauiin > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 09:19 -0700, Rick Knight a écrit : > >> Denis Gaulin wrote: >> >>> Oct 15, 2007 21.27hra >>> >>> I send this request once more hoping someone could give me a hint >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: >>> mgetty fax manager enquiries >>> From: >>> Denis Gaulin <2050gaulin at videotron.ca> >>> Date: >>> Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:40 -0400 >>> To: >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> >>> To: >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> >>> >>> Oct. 10, 2007 >>> >>> >>> Hi, my name is Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc. I read most of the queries >>> and answers on this list and copy those I think important to learn. >>> This is very good... The more I go the more I enjoy Ubuntu. Evolution is >>> great for Email ! >>> Here is my problem. >>> I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this >>> OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , >>> Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a >>> former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone >>> RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). >>> >>> >From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) >>> package. >>> I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen >>> installed . >>> the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; >>> mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice >>> >>> However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing >>> anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. >>> >>> The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by >>> copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile >>> to specify installation paths . >>> I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I >>> have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... >>> >>> I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and >>> Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what >>> to do to configure and start mgetty to run. >>> >>> All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue >>> all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, >>> sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. >>> Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real >>> configuration? >>> >>> I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? >>> >>> Thanking you in advance >>> >>> Denis Gaulin >>> >>> 2050gaulin at videotron.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I used to rely pretty heavily on being able to fax from my desktop but >> not so much anymore, so I haven't install any of the fax tools I used to >> us. But what always worked for me on previous versions of Kubuntu, >> Slackware and RedHat was mgetty+sendfax, hylafax, tkhylafax and >> faxprint. Those 4 tools together will give you a very complete >> desktop/network fax solution. Of course, the only caveat is having a >> modem that will function with linux. >> >> Install those 4 packages, configure mgetty+sendfax, and if you still >> need help getting it to work, come back here. >> >> Rick >> >> > > > > As an update to my previous message. 2 packages form the repos, hylafax-client and hylafax-server. Install those with Adept or apt-get. Run /usr/sbin/faxsetup to configure your modem. Download and build faxfrontend (here ). In the instructions for faxfrontend, one step is to add the cupsd user to sudoer. This step is critical, faxfrontend won't work without it. Good Luck Rick From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 22:58:51 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:58:51 -0500 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710181758.51898.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 10:32:05 pm Prasad wrote: > hi Kevin. > > yes , I have installed sambafs in kubuntu. but seems I am doing somewhere > wrong in the syntax. > Can you please give me the syntax . > > thanks > -Prasad > > On 10/17/07, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 18:33 -0700, Prasad wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > I have kubuntu as my guest OS in vmware on windows xp. How do I see > > > the C drive from inside kubuntu. > > > > Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual > > machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using > > Samba. Have you tried that? > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > > "There is no "royal road" to geometry." -- Euclid -- Said to king > > Ptolemy I > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Try SMB4K in Kubuntu. Because I'm assuming from the conversation that you want to see the Windoze drive inside Kubuntu. All you need is the SMB Client. Now, if you want to see the Kubuntu Drives inside Windoze you'll need to setup the SAMBA server, and that's a different matter altogether. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 23:04:09 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:04:09 -0500 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <200710180730.51114.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> <200710180730.51114.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710181804.09940.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 18 October 2007 12:30:51 am Donn wrote: > > > Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual > > > machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using > > > Samba. Have you tried that? > > On Samba I'll give my obligatory answer "abandon all hope" (unless you have > scads of time to hack.) > > Why not try something more direct? > 1. setup an FTP server > 2. setup Apache and access folders in a browser > 3. setup ssh (much easier than samba). > > You can do all three on both osses (is that even a word?) and that will > give you good to and fro. There are some nice easy free apps for Windows > ssh - putty is a good start. > > I know that on qemu (another vm thing) you can setup networking between the > vm-os and the host, perhaps there's something like it in vmware. > > hth > /d I hate to hear that you have had so much trouble with SAMBA, but my experience has been rather decent. And, all of the things you mention are Ok, IF you are wanting to access the Kubuntu machine FROM Windoze, but he's wanting to go the other way around. Read the OP. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 18 23:29:22 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:29:22 -0300 Subject: App to auto turn off computer if idle for length of time References: <6pi8q4-8jj.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <200708262255.06363.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <1kvaq4-ftu.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <1284788.QQ3DdMmCbB@cedar.serverforest.com> dave selby wrote: > Did a bit of hacking - the following works for me & helps save the planet > :) > > Clever, but it seems to be a trifle complex when kde-guidance-powermanager is installed by default. Click on the battery icon in the system tray, then under "Mains powered" and "Battery powered", "when the system is idle for more than", select the time and then "suspend", "hibernate" or "shutdown", -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 18 23:38:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:38:59 -0300 Subject: Uninstall Firefox References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <170523.75459.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4571082.hNFqXSLDcK@cedar.serverforest.com> Darryl Tidd wrote: > This has been an interesting trip. My initial plan was this. I installed > Kubuntu on a computer with WinXP. Therefore, when I installed Kubuntu > pulled in all my settings and stuff for firefox, including add-ons. I was > trying to remove an add-on but couldn't. I followed the usual uninstall > steps, and also the manual uninstall directions posted on a Ubuntu > website. Nothing seemed to work. Therefore I was going to remove > firefox, delete all related directories and reinstall. (like you can do > in winXP). I guess, being a newbie, I didn't really understand all the > dependency issues. OK, well I guess I should point out that if you actually tell us what you _want_ to do, we can probably tell you the right way to do it! Generally, to fix an individual package, you would just do: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure PACKAGE possibly using # sudo aptitude reinstall PACKAGE first. The sledgehammer approach (I've been forced to use it more than once) to get rid of a package without uninstalling everything it depends on, is: # sudo dpkg --force-all --purge PACKAGE It will give you a bunch of warnings, and if you run any of the package managers (adept, synaptic, aptitude, etc) without first reinstalling the package, you may find MANY packages getting automatically deleted! So, immediately after doing that, use: # sudo aptitude install PACKAGE to reinstall it. However, I'm not at all sure I understand your real problem. I'm really hard-pressed to believe that installing Kubuntu pulled in your Windows Firefox settings, as Kubuntu _doesn't_ install Firefox. -- derek From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 00:12:50 2007 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:12:50 -0400 Subject: KDE4 Beta 3 Message-ID: <2759cf860710181712q2923b28ai9a605d4fcdfe3838@mail.gmail.com> Is there a build queued up for this? If so, can we have a url to track the progress? Thanks, Jared From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 18 23:45:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:45:17 -0300 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> <200710180730.51114.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3829305.4ZKc0Q3FPd@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> > Well, I have just the opposite setup (Windows XP in a VMWare virtual >> > machine on a Kubuntu box), and I access the Windows XP drive using >> > Samba. Have you tried that? > On Samba I'll give my obligatory answer "abandon all hope" (unless you > have scads of time to hack.) > To share an XP folder, it's usually trivial - share it in Windows, access via smb:// in KDE. To share Linux folders it's hardly more difficult. You right click on the folder, choose "Properties" and "Share" (as opposed to "Sharing"!), and you might have to enter your password to get into the admin function. > Why not try something more direct? > 1. setup an FTP server > 2. setup Apache and access folders in a browser > 3. setup ssh (much easier than samba). Ack!!!!!! (I'm not sure I have the stamina for all the !s that needs). What a hell of a lot of work for little result (though I agree ssh is usually simple). Please, Samba is NOT that difficult, and if you can't figure it out it's no reason to scare off newbies. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 18 23:48:19 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:48:19 -0300 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> <666b99c70710172032j24e08d39u9b6f3c5db0321d9e@mail.gmail.com> <1192709007.6110.73.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <1327876.uvD7xHlGyj@cedar.serverforest.com> Kevin O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:32 -0700, Prasad wrote: >> hi Kevin. >> >> yes , I have installed sambafs in kubuntu. but seems I am doing >> somewhere wrong in the syntax. >> Can you please give me the syntax . >> >> thanks >> -Prasad > > Well, I tend to use Krusader for my file browsing, but it should work > the same in Konqueror. I just use the name I have given my XP > installation (e.g. "foobar"), and in the address bar I just type > "smb://foobar". Oh, and you need to have shared some drive or directory > on the Windows side or you won't see much. The one thing that might matter and make a significant difference is that, at least at one time, Samba was incapable of using a blank password. You may need to provide a password for the Windows user, then specify that in "System Settings", "Sharing", "Local Network Browsing". I mentioned this in a thread a month or two back, and nobody contradicted me, so I expect it's still true :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 18 23:31:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:31:51 -0300 Subject: Uninstall Firefox References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <200710172025.31006.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <6790191.6qLGUpcFRs@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710181949.19813.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <1301127.rPOiCWqWWQ@cedar.serverforest.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 21:26, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: >> > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:13, Galvanick Lucipher wrote: >> >> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 14:25:00 Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> > First, please use the "reply" function of your mail program - >> >> > there's no threading on this message. >> >> >> >> I though I had done it. Sorry. >> > >> > I think you have done it,Galvanick, from my threading tree it looks as >> > if you answered the first mail from Darryl Tidd (dated Today 00:00:23) >> > instead of >> > the secons mail (darryl.tidd dated Today 05:34:29),but... >> > View/Headers/All Header tells me you replied to the second mail. > Ooops, sorry, I must have checked another mail. > Your following comment applies perfectly. > Strange thing is that Galvanick's mail had the following lines: > .... On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: > .... > The plot thickens. [. . .] > It is hard to belive Galvanick would have forged them. I'm sure he didn't - but it wasn't a "Reply", either. I didn't look to see what mail client he used, but some of them need careful attention by the user :-) -- derek From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 02:33:01 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:33:01 -0400 Subject: KDE4 Beta 3 In-Reply-To: <2759cf860710181712q2923b28ai9a605d4fcdfe3838@mail.gmail.com> References: <2759cf860710181712q2923b28ai9a605d4fcdfe3838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4718175D.1060901@gmail.com> Jared Greenwald said the following on 10/18/2007 08:12 PM: > Is there a build queued up for this? If so, can we have a url to kubuntu.org From slewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 19 03:04:31 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:04:31 -0400 Subject: Text to Speech in KDE In-Reply-To: <134241192738641@webmail42.yandex.ru> References: 9060000000089284117 <134241192738641@webmail42.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <47181EBF.4020902@bmts.com> Reuben Kagan wrote: > Look at the festival. > And on KTTS : > http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/ > Does anyone know of a text to speech plugin for Kopete? Like the festival one for Gaim. I once herd of a festival plugin for Kopete, but could never find it. Your friend, Scott From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 03:10:50 2007 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:10:50 -0400 Subject: KDE4 Beta 3 In-Reply-To: <4718175D.1060901@gmail.com> References: <2759cf860710181712q2923b28ai9a605d4fcdfe3838@mail.gmail.com> <4718175D.1060901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2759cf860710182010q593ad781te860ca031dcdfe90@mail.gmail.com> Doh. Sorry for the spam. -Jared On 10/18/07, Paul S wrote: > Jared Greenwald said the following on 10/18/2007 08:12 PM: > > Is there a build queued up for this? If so, can we have a url to > > kubuntu.org > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From johndecarlo at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 04:34:44 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:34:44 -0400 Subject: kubuntu - network share drive configure In-Reply-To: <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> References: <666b99c70710171833u26ca6889sc0b01f1052d5f424@mail.gmail.com> <1192675459.6110.65.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710182134n34c97be4r4f5b31ff5b32c957@mail.gmail.com> > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 18:33 -0700, Prasad wrote: > > All, > > > > I have kubuntu as my guest OS in vmware on windows xp. How do I see > > the C drive from inside kubuntu. > I missed the original post. If you are using VMware Player 2.0 or Workstation 6, you can use the VMware ability to share folders. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Fri Oct 19 05:55:29 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:55:29 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released | apt-get dist-upgrade? In-Reply-To: <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071019055529.GA24063@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> Is it ok to use "apt-get dist-upgrade" to upgrade Feisty to Gutsy? I try to keep track of all programs that are installed, since I don't find an easy way to do that using the graphical installer/upgrader, I usually do all the package management using apt-get and copying the output to a special file. I read that using adept manager is the recommended way, but could someone point to me what I loose if I use apt-get method? (having done the manual work of changing /apt/cache/sources.list file, which I will anywy since I have added many external repositories...). Donatas Glodenis From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Fri Oct 19 07:08:57 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:08:57 +0200 Subject: Uninstall Firefox In-Reply-To: <200710181949.19813.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200710171019.41042.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <6790191.6qLGUpcFRs@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710181949.19813.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710190908.57570.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Thursday 18 October 2007 19:49:19 Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Ooops, sorry, I must have checked another mail. > Your following comment applies perfectly. > Strange thing is that Galvanick's mail had the following lines: > ....    On Wednesday 17 October 2007 05:34:29 darryl.tidd wrote: > ....    > The plot thickens. [. . .] > It is hard to belive Galvanick would have forged them. I didn't. It would be pretty pointless. -- Let him choose out of my files, his projects to accomplish. -- Shakespeare, "Coriolanus" ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 19 08:54:57 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:54:57 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released | apt-get dist-upgrade? In-Reply-To: <20071019055529.GA24063@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <20071019055529.GA24063@diedas.soften.ktu.lt> Message-ID: Donatas G. spake thusly: > Is it ok to use "apt-get dist-upgrade" to upgrade Feisty to Gutsy? > > I try to keep track of all programs that are installed, since I don't > find an easy way to do that using the graphical installer/upgrader, I > usually do all the package management using apt-get and copying the > output to a special file. > > I read that using adept manager is the recommended way, but could > someone point to me what I loose [sic] if I use apt-get method? (having done > the manual work of changing /apt/cache/sources.list file, which I will > anywy since I have added many external repositories...). I'm not sure why, but somehow Adept is able to manage dependencies that APT alone is not. I've heard of "broken" systems caused by "apt-get dist-upgrade". I've done the dist-upgrade route before and had no trouble whatsoever, but YMMV. The biggest problem most people run into with upgrades is when they have unofficial apps installed causing dependency problems with other apps. And lastly, if one doesn't have it installed at the time of upgrade, they need to first install the "kubuntu-desktop" package before upgrading. Speaking of dependency problems, I just noticed the mediabuntu repository has 4-5 apps/libraries that are *identical* to those in the Ubuntu repo (version number and all - save for the file name difference). That is guaranteed to cause problems down the road (if one isn't paying attention). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com I've never used an OS I didn't (dis)like. ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:13:50 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:13:50 +0200 Subject: No KDE yet? In-Reply-To: <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> References: <880dece00710181335k4b72b7a3j5525777715105138@mail.gmail.com> <200710181541.53911.manchicken@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <880dece00710190213s2abd0753t6fe1dc4ab59b1fc6@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/2007, Michael D. Stemle, Jr. wrote: > The repos are being considerably SLAMMED I imagine. I'd try running an > apt-get update and hoping for the best. You may have to wait until some of > the update-frenzy dies down before going again. > My local mirror seems to have been the problem. I'm on the main mirror now, and I KDE is downloading fast. Canonical seems to have really beefed up their ability to cope with loads. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 12:15:30 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:15:30 +0200 Subject: Enabling Compiz in Gutsy? How? Message-ID: <880dece00710190515t2f87d798n913a172860e09b43@mail.gmail.com> In Gnome I see how to enable Compiz in the menus, but how does one do that in KDE? If there is a command-line version of the instructions, I would prefer that. Note that I'm using an ATI X1400 video card and the proprietary driver. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 13:31:29 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:31:29 +0200 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? Message-ID: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> I just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. I need to move my Kontact data (contacts, calendar, journal, rss feeds, todo, notes, summary). Where is that data stored? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Oct 19 13:50:41 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:50:41 -0400 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710190950.41873.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 19 October 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. I need to move my Kontact > data (contacts, calendar, journal, rss feeds, todo, notes, summary). > Where is that data stored? Did you keep the same /home directory you had with 7.04? From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Fri Oct 19 14:10:58 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:10:58 +0100 Subject: Virgin Media broadband Message-ID: <200710191510.58705.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Is anybody else getting the impression that Virgin Media is shutting down their broadband when they use bit torrent? Seems to me that when I start up ktorrent to download Gutsy, everything (kmail, Firefox) just stops working. Since I rebooted the cable modem a while back, without starting ktorrent, everything has been working as usual. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 14:15:55 2007 From: kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com (Kristian Kristiansen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:15:55 +0100 Subject: Ati HD 2400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all Like many other's I'm experiencing trouble with ATI driver in Kubuntu. The issue is on-going, I had the problem in 7.04 and now in 7.10. My laptop, a sumsung x22, comes with ati radeon hd2400 and when I install kubuntu I can only run with vesa driver and low resolution. I have tried the wiki-guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide both 1st and 2nd method without any luck. When I try restart X I'm it says: "no devide". I have attached my xorg.conf after using the second approach. Why do I have two devices? Should I just #-ment the vesa device? Hope you guys can help me Kristian -- Mathematicians are like theologians: We regard existence as the prime attribute of what we study. But unlike theologians, we do not always rely upon faith alone. Lawrence C. Evans -- Mathematicians are like theologians: We regard existence as the prime attribute of what we study. But unlike theologians, we do not always rely upon faith alone. Lawrence C. Evans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf.txt URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 14:16:10 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:16:10 +0200 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <200710190950.41873.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710190950.41873.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710190716n2dc22a48t2c3a420dec41fd4d@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/2007, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday 19 October 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. I need to move my Kontact > > data (contacts, calendar, journal, rss feeds, todo, notes, summary). > > Where is that data stored? > > Did you keep the same /home directory you had with 7.04? > I have it tarballed up and I can salvage any files that I need. I did that just for this purpose (and backup). I don't want to restore all of ~/.kde as there is a lot of junk floating around there. What specific files are used for Kontact? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 15:05:02 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:05:02 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) Message-ID: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 / E1505 with the ATI X1400 video card and 1680x1050 resolution widescreen LCD. With the ATI driver I was able to run Beryl at the native resolution with Kubuntu 7.04 (KDE desktop). Now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, Compiz is very slow and has no graphical effects. Here is my xorg.conf: # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics" Driver "synaptics" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" Option "SHMConfig" "on" EndSection Section "Monitor" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: Identifier "Monitor0" ModelName "LCD Panel 1680x1050" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 VertRefresh 59.9 - 60.1 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "fglrx" EndSection Section "Module" load "GLcore" load "glx" load "dri" EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" # this makes DRI work with fglrx EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection This is the same xorg.conf as I had in Kubuntu 7.04. I'm glad that I saved it as without it I could not enable the native 1680x1050 resolution. This is the output of compiz in Konsole: gutsy at gutsy-laptop:~$ compiz Checking for Xgl: present. Checking for nVidia: not present. Checking for Xgl: present. Starting kde-window-decorator /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0 I see that it's looking for nVidia specific configuration. I have an ATI X1400. What must I configure? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From jferrando at netplc.com Fri Oct 19 15:41:01 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:41:01 +0200 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty Message-ID: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. Has any of you experienced the same? -- *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 http://www.netplc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjesse at iserv.net Fri Oct 19 15:52:29 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> Message-ID: <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> > I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. > Has any of you experienced the same? > > -- > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* > > Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN > 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España > Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 > http://www.netplc.com > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I have not noticed any significant speed issues. In fact I'm noticing faster boot times then in Feisty -- Jonathan Jesse From manchicken at notsosoft.net Fri Oct 19 16:08:50 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Michael D. Stemle, Jr.) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:08:50 -0500 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200710191108.50535.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Friday 19 October 2007 10:52:29 Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. > > Has any of you experienced the same? > > > > -- > > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* > > > > Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN > > 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España > > Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 > > http://www.netplc.com > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I have not noticed any significant speed issues. In fact I'm noticing > faster boot times then in Feisty > -- > Jonathan Jesse As am I From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 16:11:59 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:11:59 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710190911n1376135j17352254ca930d86@mail.gmail.com> Update: fglrxinfo crashes X. Note that I've gotten a bit further with XGL and now this is the output of compiz: gutsy at gutsy-laptop:~$ compiz Checking for Xgl: present. Checking for nVidia: not present. Checking for Xgl: present. Starting emerald /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0 Also, I can move windows with ALT-left drag so I know that compiz is running. But it is unbelievably sluggish. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 19 16:15:52 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:15:52 -0400 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710190716n2dc22a48t2c3a420dec41fd4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710190950.41873.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <880dece00710190716n2dc22a48t2c3a420dec41fd4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710191215.53020.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 19 October 2007 10:16:10 am Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 19/10/2007, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Friday 19 October 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. I need to move my Kontact > > > data (contacts, calendar, journal, rss feeds, todo, notes, summary). > > > Where is that data stored? > > > > Did you keep the same /home directory you had with 7.04? > > I have it tarballed up and I can salvage any files that I need. I did > that just for this purpose (and backup). I don't want to restore all > of ~/.kde as there is a lot of junk floating around there. What > specific files are used for Kontact? Address book: /home/[user]/.kde/share/apps/kabc Identities: /home/[user]/.kde/share/config/emailidentities accounts: /home/[user].kde/share/config/kmailrc Layout of kontact: /home[user]/.kde/share/config/kontactrc From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 19 17:22:27 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:22:27 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 / E1505 with the ATI X1400 video card and > 1680x1050 resolution widescreen LCD. With the ATI driver I was able to > run Beryl at the native resolution with Kubuntu 7.04 (KDE desktop). > Now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, Compiz is very slow and has no > graphical effects. With the update you have performed, did you carry over your xorg.conf from the previous kubuntu to gutsy, or did you have gutsy automatically generate a new xorg.conf? Mike > > Here is my xorg.conf: > # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Synaptics" "CorePointer" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Synaptics" > Driver "synaptics" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > Option "SHMConfig" "on" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: > Identifier "Monitor0" > ModelName "LCD Panel 1680x1050" > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: > HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 > VertRefresh 59.9 - 60.1 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "fglrx" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > load "GLcore" > load "glx" > load "dri" > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Group 0 > Mode 0666 > EndSection > > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Disable" # this makes DRI work with fglrx > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1680x1050" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > > This is the same xorg.conf as I had in Kubuntu 7.04. I'm glad that I > saved it as without it I could not enable the native 1680x1050 > resolution. > > This is the output of compiz in Konsole: > gutsy at gutsy-laptop:~$ compiz > Checking for Xgl: present. > Checking for nVidia: not present. > Checking for Xgl: present. > Starting kde-window-decorator > /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing > /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 > /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0 > > I see that it's looking for nVidia specific configuration. I have an > ATI X1400. What must I configure? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 19 17:25:16 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:25:16 +0200 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <4718E87C.2010606@gmx.net> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. >> Has any of you experienced the same? >> >> -- >> *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* >> *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* >> >> Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN >> 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España >> Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 >> http://www.netplc.com >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > I have not noticed any significant speed issues. In fact I'm noticing > faster boot times then in Feisty Same for me. Same perceived working speed but significantly improved boot time. (Thinkpad T23, 1GByte RAM, 120GByte HD) From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 17:46:29 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:46:29 +0200 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <200710191215.53020.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710190950.41873.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <880dece00710190716n2dc22a48t2c3a420dec41fd4d@mail.gmail.com> <200710191215.53020.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <880dece00710191046x6b5339b9kdecd3273240b0cc1@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/2007, David McGlone wrote: > Address book: /home/[user]/.kde/share/apps/kabc > Identities: /home/[user]/.kde/share/config/emailidentities > accounts: /home/[user].kde/share/config/kmailrc > Layout of kontact: /home[user]/.kde/share/config/kontactrc > Thanks. I'm trying to determine what I need from ~/.kde/share/apps and what I need from ~/.kde/share/config. I've managed to decipher most of the folders, but if someone could point me to a manual page that describes the following folders, I'd appreciate it: gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps$ ls kconf_update kontact drkonqi korganizer nsplugins kab kfile kabc kfm ksokoban kssl gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/config$ ls amorrc arkrc kolfrc korgacrc kab2kabcrc kabcrc kaccessrc krfbrc ksamerc ksmserverrc kcmcddbrc ksocksrc ksokobanrc kcmkorgsummaryrc kcmsdsummaryrc kcmshellrc kdedrc kdissert_dockposrc kdissertrc kfmclientrc kxkbrc klinesrc uiserverrc Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 17:54:46 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:54:46 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> Message-ID: <880dece00710191054i747c9d4n91bd202a7bdf70da@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/2007, Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 / E1505 with the ATI X1400 video card and > > 1680x1050 resolution widescreen LCD. With the ATI driver I was able to > > run Beryl at the native resolution with Kubuntu 7.04 (KDE desktop). > > Now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, Compiz is very slow and has no > > graphical effects. > > With the update you have performed, did you carry over your xorg.conf > from the previous kubuntu to gutsy, or did you have gutsy automatically > generate a new xorg.conf? > > Mike > I did not update, this was a fresh install. However, I could not configure the proper screen resolution, so I salvaged xorg.conf from the feisty backup tarball. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 19 18:39:15 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:39:15 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <880dece00710191054i747c9d4n91bd202a7bdf70da@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> <880dece00710191054i747c9d4n91bd202a7bdf70da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4718F9D3.2070603@gmx.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 19/10/2007, Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 / E1505 with the ATI X1400 video card and >>> 1680x1050 resolution widescreen LCD. With the ATI driver I was able to >>> run Beryl at the native resolution with Kubuntu 7.04 (KDE desktop). >>> Now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, Compiz is very slow and has no >>> graphical effects. >> With the update you have performed, did you carry over your xorg.conf >> from the previous kubuntu to gutsy, or did you have gutsy automatically >> generate a new xorg.conf? >> >> Mike >> > > I did not update, this was a fresh install. However, I could not > configure the proper screen resolution, so I salvaged xorg.conf from > the feisty backup tarball. > All right. I was asking because I have seen two xorg.conf's from gutsy (my T23 and a Panasonic Toughbook) so far, both without sections "Modules", "Extensions" and "DRI". So this is something that has changed in the x-server. Maybe you could get back on the road by getting a basic xorg.conf generated automatically (taking care of inputs and graphics card) and then manually editing to fit your screen in: Automatic xserver configuration is done by: "sudo aptitude -phigh xserver-xorg" (I hope I got it right this time :) Then overwrite the section "Monitor" (only this one) in the new xorg.conf with the same section from the old xorg.conf. Or just edit the figure in the new xorg.conf to what they are in the old xorg.conf. Mike From johndecarlo at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 18:46:01 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:46:01 -0400 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <4718F9D3.2070603@gmx.net> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> <880dece00710191054i747c9d4n91bd202a7bdf70da@mail.gmail.com> <4718F9D3.2070603@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710191146l705a98c0p3d8ddc68f8cc0068@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/07, Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > > Automatic xserver configuration is done by: > "sudo aptitude -phigh xserver-xorg" > (I hope I got it right this time :) > Almost. sudo dpkg ... -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From cms0009 at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 19:11:16 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:11:16 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 Beta 3 Message-ID: <200710191511.16826.cms0009@gmail.com> Is it ready for really desktop use ? or should one wait for KDE 4 Beta 4 -TIA Richard From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 19 20:11:19 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:11:19 -0400 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200710191611.25008.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 19 October 2007 11:41:01 Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. > Has any of you experienced the same? No. and I am running it on an old 1ghz Dell with 512k ram. 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I tried to Google the answer, and found that in Ubuntu it is supposed to happen automatically if you have the default Gnome desktop, but I could not find any information about doing it in Kubuntu. And there seems to be a good Help site for Ubuntu, but nothing comparable for Kubuntu. If there is a site online that has the information, please let me know. I don't mind reading it for myself, but so far I can not even find it. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows." -- Frank Zappa From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Fri Oct 19 21:07:08 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:07:08 -0400 Subject: How to run Compiz Message-ID: <1192828028.6110.86.camel@tregonsee> How can I run Compiz on a Kubuntu machine. All I have been able to find is sites that discuss running it in Ubuntu with Gnome, but I cannot find any place that says how to do it in Kubuntu with KDE. If there is a URL to aplce that explains it, that should be enough to get me going. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time." -- Alfred E. Wiggam From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Fri Oct 19 20:33:42 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:33:42 +0300 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <200710191611.25008.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <200710191611.25008.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:11:19 +0300, Art Alexion wrote: > On Friday 19 October 2007 11:41:01 Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: >> I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. >> Has any of you experienced the same? > > No. and I am running it on an old 1ghz Dell with 512k ram. Won't do > compiz > but kde is fine. > Actually, I find Gutsy a bit faster than Feisty (I did an upgrade). X/KDE feels snappy, can't tell whether it is current xorg, nvidia drivers, KDE, or all of them together. I'm not running compiz either. Have you checked system logs, there might be some issues? -- Jarkko Palviainen Laserkatu 3 as. 233 53850 Lappeenranta GSM: +358 468 104 666 email: jarkko dot palviainen at lut dot fi From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 20:40:52 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:40:52 +0200 Subject: Compiz slow, no effects (Gutsy with ATI X1400) In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0710191146l705a98c0p3d8ddc68f8cc0068@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190805s7d2b8e42n9051f2842b2170da@mail.gmail.com> <4718E7D3.8060201@gmx.net> <880dece00710191054i747c9d4n91bd202a7bdf70da@mail.gmail.com> <4718F9D3.2070603@gmx.net> <3dde113c0710191146l705a98c0p3d8ddc68f8cc0068@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710191340j64825a72ja88f2232ffa883d3@mail.gmail.com> Alright, after a lot of fighting I've got it to the point where Compiz starts with XGL, but the system is very unresponsive and the 3D effects do not work. I do see that the window theme changes when I run compiz, though. gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/usr/lib/fglrx$ Checking for Xgl: present. Checking for nVidia: not present. Checking for Xgl: present. Starting emerald /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0 Note that I have an ATI X1400, not an nVidia card. What should I do? From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 20:46:01 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:46:01 -0600 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? Message-ID: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> I learn slowly, but I do sometimes learn. I tried both the last two Kubuntu upgrades (dapper -> edgy; edgy -> feisty) and both times I ended up having to do an install from scratch in order to recover from the mess that resulted. In both cases, I realised (too late) that there were a non-negligible number of people experiencing problems with both upgrades. (And, to be fair, eventually I think workarounds were posted, but much too late for them to be helpful to me.) So this time I'll ask here first: are there any horror stories I should know about before trying the upgrade path this time? No need to respond if everything went as it should; I assume that for the vast majority of people everything will have worked correctly. It will be marvellous if there are no further posts in this thread :-) From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Fri Oct 19 20:52:34 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:52:34 +0300 Subject: Automount USB Device In-Reply-To: <1192827871.6110.82.camel@tregonsee> References: <1192827871.6110.82.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:04:31 +0300, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > How can I get my Kubuntu Feisty machine to automatically mount a USB MP3 > player when I plug it in? I tried to Google the answer, and found that > in Ubuntu it is supposed to happen automatically if you have the default > Gnome desktop, but I could not find any information about doing it in > Kubuntu. And there seems to be a good Help site for Ubuntu, but nothing > comparable for Kubuntu. If there is a site online that has the > information, please let me know. I don't mind reading it for myself, but > so far I can not even find it. > > Thank you, > At least Amarok detects my Ipod shuffle automatically. However, you might need a high-power USB port to make it work properly (check manuals?). For example, I had to change my cable to another USB connector until it started working. Low-power ports were on the front-panel, while the high-power ports were on the back side of my tower. Have you tested your player in an Ubuntu machine? If it works in Ubuntu, it also should work in Kubuntu. Sorry, can't say any online help site here since I didn't need any. From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 21:18:24 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:18:24 -0400 Subject: Enabling Compiz in Gutsy? How? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710190515t2f87d798n913a172860e09b43@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190515t2f87d798n913a172860e09b43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47191F20.20609@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen said the following on 10/19/2007 08:15 AM: > In Gnome I see how to enable Compiz in the menus, but how does one do > that in KDE? If there is a command-line version of the instructions, I > would prefer that. Note that I'm using an ATI X1400 video card and the > proprietary driver. Thanks in advance. You may want to check launchpad but 131013 about compiz displacing adept updater .. there are some ideas and enlightening comments. HTH From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Fri Oct 19 21:28:27 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:28:27 -0500 Subject: UUID Message-ID: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a backup is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, since the UUID is different. T/A -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 21:30:03 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:30:03 -0400 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> Message-ID: <471921DB.1080309@gmail.com> Jordi Ferrando Fabra said the following on 10/19/2007 11:41 AM: > I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. > Has any of you experienced the same? If you have a large (several GB) /home directory, then gutsy's trackerd takes hours of nearly 100% cpu to develop a several hundred MB index .. Also, after completing the initial index, it will restart and update. It will show up in a terminal running "top". Suggest you disable it as a starting point in trouble shooting your problem. HTH From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 21:31:21 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:31:21 -0400 Subject: How to run Compiz In-Reply-To: <1192828028.6110.86.camel@tregonsee> References: <1192828028.6110.86.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <47192229.2080105@gmail.com> Kevin O'Brien said the following on 10/19/2007 05:07 PM: > How can I run Compiz on a Kubuntu machine. All I have been able to find > is sites that discuss running it in Ubuntu with Gnome, but I cannot find > any place that says how to do it in Kubuntu with KDE. If there is a URL > to aplce that explains it, that should be enough to get me going. check out launchpad bug 131013 for ideas and enlightenment. HTH From lists at ptfd.org Fri Oct 19 23:39:30 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:39:30 -0400 Subject: upgrade tool issue Message-ID: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> I keep getting an error out on the update tool when it is in the prepareing the upgrade phase. Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) Is this just due to the ip traffic load? I waited last night till today and tried several times just in case it was a load problem on the servers, but it is still doing it today all day. Mike From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Oct 20 00:40:11 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:40:11 -0500 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <47194E6B.9020101@swbell.net> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. >> Has any of you experienced the same? >> >> -- >> *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* >> *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* >> >> Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN >> 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España >> Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 >> http://www.netplc.com >> - >> > > I have not noticed any significant speed issues. In fact I'm noticing > faster boot times then in Feisty I agree. I haven't spent lots of time with Gutsy but it does seem a bit quicker. It's way faster than my OpenSuSE 10.2 x86-64 on the same machine. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 20 00:45:35 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:45:35 -0400 Subject: UUID In-Reply-To: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710192045.35492.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 19 October 2007 5:28:27 pm Yogich7230 wrote: > How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a backup > is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, since the > UUID is different. cat /etc/fstab From karlok at fastmail.fm Sat Oct 20 00:45:51 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (kk) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:45:51 -0700 Subject: UUID In-Reply-To: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <47194FBF.9030403@fastmail.fm> Yogich7230 wrote: > How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a backup is > restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, since the UUID > is different. > > T/A > sudo blkid -c /dev/null The blkid command normally reads its information from a cache file, so if you changed anything during your session you have to use the above form of the command to get up-to-date information. Karl From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 20 00:46:23 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:46:23 -0400 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710191046x6b5339b9kdecd3273240b0cc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710191215.53020.d.mcglone@att.net> <880dece00710191046x6b5339b9kdecd3273240b0cc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710192046.23641.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 19 October 2007 1:46:29 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 19/10/2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Address book: /home/[user]/.kde/share/apps/kabc > > Identities: /home/[user]/.kde/share/config/emailidentities > > accounts: /home/[user].kde/share/config/kmailrc > > Layout of kontact: /home[user]/.kde/share/config/kontactrc > > Thanks. I'm trying to determine what I need from ~/.kde/share/apps and > what I need from ~/.kde/share/config. I've managed to decipher most of > the folders, but if someone could point me to a manual page that > describes the following folders, I'd appreciate it: Most of this is pretty easy to understand by the names of the folder, but all of the folders in "apps" contain files for those apps and in the "config" folder is all the config files for those applications in the "apps" folder. Basically the "apps" and "config" folder speak for themselves. :-) I know of no other way to explain it. Maybe I do, but just too lazy to because it looks self explanatory to me :-) > > gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps$ ls > kconf_update > kontact > drkonqi > korganizer > nsplugins > kab > kfile > kabc > kfm > ksokoban > kssl > > gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/config$ ls > amorrc > arkrc > kolfrc > korgacrc > kab2kabcrc > kabcrc > kaccessrc > krfbrc > ksamerc > ksmserverrc > kcmcddbrc > ksocksrc > ksokobanrc > kcmkorgsummaryrc > kcmsdsummaryrc > kcmshellrc > kdedrc > kdissert_dockposrc > kdissertrc > kfmclientrc > kxkbrc > klinesrc > uiserverrc > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From paul at lemmons.name Sat Oct 20 01:21:14 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:21:14 -0700 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4719580A.4000302@lemmons.name> D. R. Evans wrote: > I learn slowly, but I do sometimes learn. > > I tried both the last two Kubuntu upgrades (dapper -> edgy; edgy -> feisty) > and both times I ended up having to do an install from scratch in order to > recover from the mess that resulted. In both cases, I realised (too late) > that there were a non-negligible number of people experiencing problems > with both upgrades. (And, to be fair, eventually I think workarounds were > posted, but much too late for them to be helpful to me.) > > So this time I'll ask here first: are there any horror stories I should > know about before trying the upgrade path this time? > > No need to respond if everything went as it should; I assume that for the > vast majority of people everything will have worked correctly. > > It will be marvellous if there are no further posts in this thread :-) > Bad... no. It went extremely smoothly for me. I upgraded about two weeks ago to the last beta. The upgrade went flawlessly. Updates since then have also gone smoothly. I ran into a *very* minor glitch today that will not be an issue for you. I got the notice that a version upgrade was ready. I went to install it and because my machine was already up to date, except for the version id, the upgrade failed. I waited a bit and saw a time zone update. Tried it again and it worked like a charm. Seems that there needs to be at least one package to update for the upgrade to work. From pupeno at pupeno.com Sat Oct 20 01:24:17 2007 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (J. Pablo =?iso-8859-1?q?Fern=E1ndez?=) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:24:17 +0100 Subject: KDE 4 Beta 3 In-Reply-To: <200710191511.16826.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710191511.16826.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710200224.17531.pupeno@pupeno.com> On Friday 19 October 2007 20:11:16 Richard wrote: > Is it ready for really desktop use ? > or should one wait for KDE 4 Beta 4 For real desktop use, you should at least wait for the final version... although I'd personally wait fro 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 if I can. -- J. Pablo Fernández (http://pupeno.com) From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 00:59:29 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:59:29 +0200 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <200710192046.23641.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710191215.53020.d.mcglone@att.net> <880dece00710191046x6b5339b9kdecd3273240b0cc1@mail.gmail.com> <200710192046.23641.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <880dece00710191759t7442dd6bs6a1f6c1a1e485d5d@mail.gmail.com> On 20/10/2007, David McGlone wrote: > Most of this is pretty easy to understand by the names of the folder, but all > of the folders in "apps" contain files for those apps and in the "config" > folder is all the config files for those applications in the "apps" folder. > Basically the "apps" and "config" folder speak for themselves. :-) > > I know of no other way to explain it. Maybe I do, but just too lazy to because > it looks self explanatory to me :-) > > > > gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps$ ls > > kconf_update > > kontact > > drkonqi > > korganizer > > nsplugins > > kab > > kfile > > kabc > > kfm > > ksokoban > > kssl > > > > gutsy at gutsy-laptop:/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/config$ ls > > amorrc > > arkrc > > kolfrc > > korgacrc > > kab2kabcrc > > kabcrc > > kaccessrc > > krfbrc > > ksamerc > > ksmserverrc > > kcmcddbrc > > ksocksrc > > ksokobanrc > > kcmkorgsummaryrc > > kcmsdsummaryrc > > kcmshellrc > > kdedrc > > kdissert_dockposrc > > kdissertrc > > kfmclientrc > > kxkbrc > > klinesrc > > uiserverrc > > Most of them I was able to guess, and those I did not list. The ones listed, though, I have been unable to guess. I'll spend some time with google and see what I come up with. I was able to move my contacts, todo, rss, and calander, but the journal I cannot guess. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 01:02:24 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:02:24 +0200 Subject: Enabling Compiz in Gutsy? How? In-Reply-To: <47191F20.20609@gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190515t2f87d798n913a172860e09b43@mail.gmail.com> <47191F20.20609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710191802p26d0ea5ap1eb77c95a227dd5f@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/2007, Paul S wrote: > Dotan Cohen said the following on 10/19/2007 08:15 AM: > > In Gnome I see how to enable Compiz in the menus, but how does one do > > that in KDE? If there is a command-line version of the instructions, I > > would prefer that. Note that I'm using an ATI X1400 video card and the > > proprietary driver. Thanks in advance. > > You may want to check launchpad but 131013 about compiz displacing adept > updater .. there are some ideas and enlightening comments. > > HTH > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Oct 20 01:42:38 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:42:38 -0400 Subject: 7.04 to 7.10 Now how to move Kontact? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710191759t7442dd6bs6a1f6c1a1e485d5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00710190631y54e22315v6f0cb05fe2feaad@mail.gmail.com> <200710192046.23641.d.mcglone@att.net> <880dece00710191759t7442dd6bs6a1f6c1a1e485d5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710192142.38370.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 19 October 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Most of them I was able to guess, and those I did not list. The ones > listed, though, I have been unable to guess. I'll spend some time with > google and see what I come up with. I was able to move my contacts, > todo, rss, and calander, but the journal I cannot guess. Seems to me you're asking for some trouble trying to pick and choose files. IMHO it would be better to restore the .kde in total and then go after the junk. (whatever the junk may be) From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Oct 20 01:43:11 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:43:11 -0500 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47195D2F.8010907@swbell.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > I learn slowly, but I do sometimes learn. > > I tried both the last two Kubuntu upgrades (dapper -> edgy; edgy -> feisty) > and both times I ended up having to do an install from scratch in order to > recover from the mess that resulted. In both cases, I realised (too late) > that there were a non-negligible number of people experiencing problems > with both upgrades. (And, to be fair, eventually I think workarounds were > posted, but much too late for them to be helpful to me.) > > So this time I'll ask here first: are there any horror stories I should > know about before trying the upgrade path this time? > > No need to respond if everything went as it should; I assume that for the > vast majority of people everything will have worked correctly. > > It will be marvellous if there are no further posts in this thread :-) > I did the update through Adept last night and so far everything is working like a charm. In fact it fixed my sound problem I was having in Feisty. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 02:09:21 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:09:21 +0200 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00710191909l612a0f96rfd861e8a1560f08a@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > I learn slowly, but I do sometimes learn. > > I tried both the last two Kubuntu upgrades (dapper -> edgy; edgy -> feisty) > and both times I ended up having to do an install from scratch in order to > recover from the mess that resulted. In both cases, I realised (too late) > that there were a non-negligible number of people experiencing problems > with both upgrades. (And, to be fair, eventually I think workarounds were > posted, but much too late for them to be helpful to me.) > > So this time I'll ask here first: are there any horror stories I should > know about before trying the upgrade path this time? > > No need to respond if everything went as it should; I assume that for the > vast majority of people everything will have worked correctly. > > It will be marvellous if there are no further posts in this thread :-) I'm having a horror story with my new install (not upgrade). But it's because of the damned ATI X1400 video card in this laptop. Compiz is killing me. This is the last time that ATI/AMD get my money. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 03:09:57 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:09:57 -0400 Subject: upgrade tool issue In-Reply-To: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <3dde113c0710192009u36fb6803i47b47b7160c323f3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/07, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > > I keep getting an error out on the update tool when it is in the > prepareing > the upgrade phase. > > Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/ReleaseUnable > to find expected entry commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file > (malformed Release file?) > > Is this just due to the ip traffic load? I waited last night till today > and > tried several times just in case it was a load problem on the servers, but > it > is still doing it today all day. Mike, I would disable the "archive.canonical.com" Repository in Adept (or by hand in /etc/apt/sources.list, or using your favorite method). You can then enable it after the upgrade, but I don't think there is anything in there yet. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms0009 at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 04:06:48 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:06:48 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 Beta 3 In-Reply-To: <200710200224.17531.pupeno@pupeno.com> References: <200710191511.16826.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710200224.17531.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <200710200006.48151.cms0009@gmail.com> On Friday 19 October 2007 9:24:17 pm J. Pablo Fernández wrote: > For real desktop use, you should at least wait for the final version... > although I'd personally wait fro 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 if I can. Thanks, will wait for KDE 4 / 4.0.1 From kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 08:39:09 2007 From: kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com (Kristian Kristiansen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:39:09 +0100 Subject: Sound-issue in Gutsy Message-ID: Dear all Here is my specific problem: The built-in speakers and the headphones jack seem to be connected, that is, when I plug in my headphones the built-in speakers do not cut off. Also there is no way to mute the speakers without also muting the headphones and vice versa. Is there a workaround? With regards Kristian -- Mathematicians are like theologians: We regard existence as the prime attribute of what we study. But unlike theologians, we do not always rely upon faith alone. Lawrence C. Evans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Sat Oct 20 08:50:22 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:50:22 +0100 Subject: Printer not printing Message-ID: <20071020095022.f0fd66c5.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> I have installed many versions of Linux, every time taking care to have the printer connected and switched on. That way the printer has always been found and set up for me. Recently I installed Feisty on a lap top for my brother as he wants to learn it. This time he did not have the printer attached. Now he wants to use the printer with the lap top. The printer is showing up as "idle, accepting jobs". It is the correct printer. However when we try to print something, nothing happens, and when I check there are no jobs in the list. Can anyone point me where to look please? Kubuntu Feisty. Epson Stylus D88 USB connection Thanks Neil Winchurst From kassube at gmx.net Sat Oct 20 09:43:59 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:43:59 +0200 Subject: Printer not printing In-Reply-To: <20071020095022.f0fd66c5.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071020095022.f0fd66c5.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200710201144.00142.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > The printer is showing up as "idle, accepting jobs". It is the correct > printer. However when we try to print something, nothing happens, and > when I check there are no jobs in the list. Can anyone point me where > to look please? > > Kubuntu Feisty. > Epson Stylus D88 > USB connection Try to disconnect the printer from the USB port and then connect it again. That works for me, but I have a parallel port printer with USB->parallel adapter. Nils From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 20 10:13:07 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:13:07 +0200 Subject: upgrade tool issue In-Reply-To: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: Michael W. Holdeman wrote the following on 20.10.2007 01:39 > I keep getting an error out on the update tool when it is in the prepareing > the upgrade phase. > > Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable > to find expected entry commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file > (malformed Release file?) > > Is this just due to the ip traffic load? I waited last night till today and > tried several times just in case it was a load problem on the servers, but it > is still doing it today all day. > > Mike > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710 <--------------------------------------------------------------------- Commercial/partner repository * The "commercial" repository on archive.canonical.com has been renamed to "partner". If you upgrade directly from an earlier release to Ubuntu 7.10 using the documented upgrade procedure, then this will be handled automatically. However, if you upgraded via the beta and/or manually, you will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand. The correct syntax is: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner ---------------------------------------------------------------------> as others has allready suggested, deactivate pre-upgrading and reactivate post-upgrade. HTH -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sat Oct 20 10:14:59 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:14:59 +0100 Subject: upgrade tool issue In-Reply-To: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <4719D523.6080209@stdin.me.uk> Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > I keep getting an error out on the update tool when it is in the prepareing > the upgrade phase. > > Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable > to find expected entry commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file > (malformed Release file?) > > Is this just due to the ip traffic load? I waited last night till today and > tried several times just in case it was a load problem on the servers, but it > is still doing it today all day. > > Mike > > I believe the commercial repository for gutsy was renamed "partner", so replace the line in your sources.list with: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner Terence From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 20 10:14:58 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:14:58 +0200 Subject: UUID In-Reply-To: <47194FBF.9030403@fastmail.fm> References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <47194FBF.9030403@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: kk wrote the following on 20.10.2007 02:45 > Yogich7230 wrote: >> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a backup is >> restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, since the UUID >> is different. >> >> T/A >> > sudo blkid -c /dev/null > > The blkid command normally reads its information from a cache file, so > if you changed anything during your session you have to use the above > form of the command to get up-to-date information. > > Karl $ sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda2 Password: a56ae79c-6ea6-4e9c-bf98-eb5d3d1667f3 bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 20 11:53:55 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:53:55 +0100 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710201253.55409.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 19 October 2007 21:46:01 D. R. Evans wrote: > I learn slowly, but I do sometimes learn. > > I tried both the last two Kubuntu upgrades (dapper -> edgy; edgy -> feisty) > and both times I ended up having to do an install from scratch in order to > recover from the mess that resulted. In both cases, I realised (too late) > that there were a non-negligible number of people experiencing problems > with both upgrades. (And, to be fair, eventually I think workarounds were > posted, but much too late for them to be helpful to me.) > > So this time I'll ask here first: are there any horror stories I should > know about before trying the upgrade path this time? > > No need to respond if everything went as it should; I assume that for the > vast majority of people everything will have worked correctly. > > It will be marvellous if there are no further posts in this thread :-) Well, I can't upgrade as I seem to need another 50Mb free in my /boot partition. Even deleting some old files from there would only free up around 30Mb, so I'm going to have to wait a while :( From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 20 12:17:34 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:17:34 -0400 Subject: Printer not printing In-Reply-To: <200710201144.00142.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20071020095022.f0fd66c5.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710201144.00142.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710200817.35000.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007 5:43:59 am Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > The printer is showing up as "idle, accepting jobs". It is the correct > > printer. However when we try to print something, nothing happens, and > > when I check there are no jobs in the list. Can anyone point me where > > to look please? > > > > Kubuntu Feisty. > > Epson Stylus D88 > > USB connection > > Try to disconnect the printer from the USB port and then connect it again. > That works for me, but I have a parallel port printer with USB->parallel > adapter. I always have a similar problem when I do fresh installs. My Epson CX3200 always shows up and Kubuntu, SuSe, Mandriva and Fedora claim it has installed the printer, but it never works until I actually go through the printer setup and associate the printer with the correct driver. -- Exodus 20 From ted.frater at virgin.net Sat Oct 20 12:51:15 2007 From: ted.frater at virgin.net (Ted Frater) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:51:15 +0000 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <47194E6B.9020101@swbell.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <47194E6B.9020101@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4719F9C3.4090200@virgin.net> Billie Walsh wrote: >Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > >>>I have the impression that Gusty is noticeable slower than Feisty. >>>Has any of you experienced the same? >>> >>>-- >>>*Jordi Ferrando Fabra* >>>*Director Técnico* * NETPLC* >>> >>>Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN >>>12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España >>>Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 >>>http://www.netplc.com >>>- >>> >>> >>> >>I have not noticed any significant speed issues. In fact I'm noticing >>faster boot times then in Feisty >> >> > >I agree. I haven't spent lots of time with Gutsy but it does seem a bit >quicker. It's way faster than my OpenSuSE 10.2 x86-64 on the same machine. > > > Id like to mention the following, that the various later versions of Linux really are slower. Ive a p3 850 thinkpad( A21P) with 512 megs of ram running a dual boot with win 98se. and slackware 10. This was installed some 4 yrs ago and has been flawlless over this time. I use as my browser Opera 9.0 This latter combination is fast on this "relatively" old linux distro and laptop. I had a Dell latitude C840 come my way recently, its a p4 1.6gig intel mobile chip with 1gig of ram. Same size screen 15.1 on both, running 1600 by 1200 res. ( take the same screen)!! I put on the last version of Ubuntu with the latest version of Opera This was in anticipation of a much improved? experience both with Ubuntu and Opera. Would you believe it? It is not the case!! My P3 Thinkpad is coinsistently faster both in Slackware and Opera usage. I amat a loss to know why. Anyone have any suggestions? were not talking about build quality where the 7yr old Thinkpad beats the Dell hands down. just the overal software performance. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 20 13:00:43 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:00:43 -0400 Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? Message-ID: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> I've been trying to upgrade some packages in the past couple days and I keep getting this error for some reason: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. I have been running 7.10 RC for about a month and I tried to upgrade via adept yesterday and adept tells me my system is up to date, but on the other hand it keeps notifying me that there is a version upgrade available. -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 20 13:11:18 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:11:18 -0400 Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? In-Reply-To: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710200911.18368.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007 9:00:43 am David McGlone wrote: > I've been trying to upgrade some packages in the past couple days and I > keep getting this error for some reason: > > There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. Here is a little bit more about this problem. I keep getting the Error above no matter what package I try to install, BUT Adept claims it is installed, but it's not. -- David M. From craig_p_drummond at yahoo.co.uk Sat Oct 20 13:12:05 2007 From: craig_p_drummond at yahoo.co.uk (Craig Drummond) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:12:05 +0100 Subject: Adept still has "Version Upgrade" button... Message-ID: <200710201412.05144.craig_p_drummond@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, I tried to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using Adept, but the KDE update manager died with an empty error message - this was after all the debs had been downloaded, and some had been installed. So, I performed the following instead: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core sudo do-release-upgrade Using those steps, I managed to upgrade to Gutsy. However, whenever I do a "Fetch Updates" from adept, the "Version Upgrade" button re-appears. How can I tell adept to stop doing this? I assume it still thinks I'm using feisty. Thanks for any help. Craig. From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Sat Oct 20 13:35:04 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:35:04 +0300 Subject: Kubunty Gusty slower than Feisty In-Reply-To: <4719F9C3.4090200@virgin.net> References: <4718D00D.4060801@netplc.com> <18807.64.90.198.6.1192809149.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <47194E6B.9020101@swbell.net> <4719F9C3.4090200@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:51:15 +0300, Ted Frater wrote: > Id like to mention the following, > that the various later versions of Linux really are slower. > Ive a p3 850 thinkpad( A21P) with 512 megs of ram running a dual boot > with win 98se. > and slackware 10. This was installed some 4 yrs ago and has been > flawlless over this time. > I use as my browser Opera 9.0 > This latter combination is fast on this "relatively" old linux distro > and laptop. > I had a Dell latitude C840 come my way recently, its a p4 1.6gig intel > mobile chip with 1gig of ram. > Same size screen 15.1 on both, running 1600 by 1200 res. ( take the > same screen)!! > I put on the last version of Ubuntu with the latest version of Opera > This was in anticipation of a much improved? experience both with > Ubuntu and Opera. > Would you believe it? > It is not the case!! > My P3 Thinkpad is coinsistently faster both in Slackware and Opera > usage. > I amat a loss to know why. > Anyone have any suggestions? > > were not talking about build quality where the 7yr old Thinkpad beats > the Dell hands down. > just the overal software performance. > > I would not consider using Opera as a performance metrics. Do you refer to the latest stable Opera version 9.2x? It is known to have performance and stability issues on Unix systems. Or the bleeding edge 9.50 _alpha_ ? Though, Opera 9.50 latest alpha release works nicely on my Kubuntu Gutsy. Noticeable slowdown often means that there are problems. See 'top' if any particular process is eating up the cpu (like the previously mentioned desktop search indexing your disk). And, /var/log/* will most propably show warnings and/or errors when things go wrong. Try to investigate what is the real problem there. - Jarkko From ronw at paradise.net.nz Sat Oct 20 13:40:02 2007 From: ronw at paradise.net.nz (Ron Wilson) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:40:02 +1300 Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? In-Reply-To: <200710200911.18368.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710200911.18368.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <1192887602.5495.15.camel@angela> You could try this sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock sudo dpkg --configure -a -> read the output, you will have to answer a few questions sudo dpkg --configure --pending ------------------- Ron Wilson If you live to be one hundred, you've got it made. Very few people die past that age. -- George Burns On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:11 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 20 October 2007 9:00:43 am David McGlone wrote: > > I've been trying to upgrade some packages in the past couple days and I > > keep getting this error for some reason: > > > > There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem > > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > Here is a little bit more about this problem. I keep getting the Error above > no matter what package I try to install, BUT Adept claims it is installed, > but it's not. > > -- > David M. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Fri Oct 19 18:09:46 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:09:46 +0100 Subject: Virgin Media broadband In-Reply-To: <200710191510.58705.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200710191510.58705.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <20071019190946.637c5339@graham-desktop> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:10:58 +0100 David Fletcher wrote: > Is anybody else getting the impression that Virgin Media is shutting > down their broadband when they use bit torrent? > > Seems to me that when I start up ktorrent to download Gutsy, > everything (kmail, Firefox) just stops working. Since I rebooted the > cable modem a while back, without starting ktorrent, everything has > been working as usual. > > Dave > > Virgin Broadband have made it clear that they are putting a cap on downloads, particularly those downloads that use peer-to-peer systems (such as bittorrent) which they regard as the means by which "pirated" audio tracks and dvds are disseminated. They also say that there is just so much bandwidth to go around and therefore it's going to have to be rationed. This despite offering an unlimited service. You only have to look at the UK computer press ("Micromart", "Linux Format", etc) in recent months and the newsgroups that deal with Virgin Broadband issues, to see how much this bothers some people. For myself, I accept rationing ("bandwidth throttling") as a fact of life, but I think that Virgin Broadband is being misleading in continue to market their service as "unlimited" and there are noises that soon someone will do something about that. Meanwhile, if you are a Virgin Broadband customer, don't use bittorrent to download the distro...or any other p2p service.. -- Graham From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sat Oct 20 13:47:59 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:47:59 +0100 Subject: Adept still has "Version Upgrade" button... In-Reply-To: <200710201412.05144.craig_p_drummond@yahoo.co.uk> References: <200710201412.05144.craig_p_drummond@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <471A070F.4000206@stdin.me.uk> Craig Drummond wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using Adept, but the KDE update > manager died with an empty error message - this was after all the debs had > been downloaded, and some had been installed. So, I performed the following > instead: > > sudo apt-get install update-manager-core > sudo do-release-upgrade > > Using those steps, I managed to upgrade to Gutsy. However, whenever I do > a "Fetch Updates" from adept, the "Version Upgrade" button re-appears. > > How can I tell adept to stop doing this? I assume it still thinks I'm using > feisty. > > Thanks for any help. > > Craig. > > It's a known issue: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/153889 Terence From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sat Oct 20 13:50:03 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:50:03 -0500 Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? In-Reply-To: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710200850.03810.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007 08:00:43 David McGlone wrote: > I've been trying to upgrade some packages in the past couple days and I > keep getting this error for some reason: > > There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > I have been running 7.10 RC for about a month and I tried to upgrade via > adept yesterday and adept tells me my system is up to date, but on the > other hand it keeps notifying me that there is a version upgrade available. > > -- > David M. As for the 'There was an error...' ...I have gotten that one, myself, two or three times. Some time later, I will issue a command and it will be carried out. Go figure. I think this one is a 'roach', perhaps. -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sat Oct 20 14:00:20 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:00:20 -0500 Subject: UUID [SOLVED] Message-ID: <200710200900.20385.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Many thanks for all the help! The suggestions worked, of course...! -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From devooght at comcast.net Sat Oct 20 14:34:16 2007 From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:34:16 -0400 Subject: Adept & Upgrade Question Message-ID: Now that Gutsy is out shouldn't Adept ask if I want to upgrade my Feisty system to Gutsy? I did get prompted to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty. Lance From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 14:56:21 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:56:21 +0200 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <200710201253.55409.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> <200710201253.55409.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00710200756qd2cdddck18ffa8af9034ee21@mail.gmail.com> On 20/10/2007, Mark Fraser wrote: > Well, I can't upgrade as I seem to need another 50Mb free in my /boot > partition. Even deleting some old files from there would only free up around > 30Mb, so I'm going to have to wait a while :( How many kernels do you have in there? Anything other than kernels? How big is /boot? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Oct 20 15:24:16 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:24:16 +0200 Subject: customizing the keyboard layout Message-ID: To customize my keyboard layout, i have created a new file "my_kbd" for the default alphanumeric_keys in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, then i have added that new file to /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst list. Also added my new file to the xorg.conf line Option "XkbLayout" "my_kbd" Is that the correct way to get my layout both in the character terminals and in the kde environment? It has worked for one year, yet broke a few weeks ago. Anything changed in the base.lst format? thank you -- Pol From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sat Oct 20 15:33:38 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:33:38 +0100 Subject: Adept & Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471A1FD2.8010803@stdin.me.uk> Lance DeVooght wrote: > Now that Gutsy is out shouldn't Adept ask if I want > to upgrade my Feisty system to Gutsy? > > I did get prompted to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty. > > Lance > > > Take a look at the instructions here: Terence From lists at ptfd.org Sat Oct 20 15:56:14 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:56:14 -0400 Subject: upgrade tool issue In-Reply-To: References: <200710191939.31203.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200710201156.14618.lists@ptfd.org> On Saturday 20 October 2007 06:13:07 am Thilo Six wrote: > Michael W. Holdeman wrote the following on 20.10.2007 01:39 > > > I keep getting an error out on the update tool when it is in the > > prepareing the upgrade phase. > > > > Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release > > Unable to find expected entry commercial/binary-i386/Packages in > > Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) > > > > Is this just due to the ip traffic load? I waited last night till today > > and tried several times just in case it was a load problem on the > > servers, but it is still doing it today all day. > > > > Mike > > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710 > <--------------------------------------------------------------------- > Commercial/partner repository > > * The "commercial" repository on archive.canonical.com has been renamed > to "partner". If you upgrade directly from an earlier release to Ubuntu > 7.10 using the documented upgrade procedure, then this will be handled > automatically. However, if you upgraded via the beta and/or manually, you > will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand. The correct syntax is: > > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > as others has allready suggested, deactivate pre-upgrading and reactivate > post-upgrade. > > HTH > -- > Thilo > > key: 0x4A411E09 Thanks guys, that was it. Now everytime I scan for updates however adept always comes up with the upgrade arrows like there is an upgrade out there? Mike From devooght at comcast.net Sat Oct 20 16:07:25 2007 From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:07:25 -0400 Subject: Adept & Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: <471A1FD2.8010803@stdin.me.uk> References: <471A1FD2.8010803@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: Terence Simpson wrote: > Lance DeVooght wrote: >> Now that Gutsy is out shouldn't Adept ask if I want >> to upgrade my Feisty system to Gutsy? >> >> I did get prompted to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty. >> >> Lance >> >> >> > Take a look at the instructions here: > > > Terence OK, I did that and I got the "Version Upgrade" button. However, now I am hung up at the "Modify the software channels" stage. The system isn't frozen, just the Distribution Upgrade manager is stopped at this point. Any idea what I'm to do from here? From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Sat Oct 20 16:21:52 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:21:52 +0100 Subject: Virgin Media broadband In-Reply-To: <20071019190946.637c5339@graham-desktop> References: <200710191510.58705.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20071019190946.637c5339@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200710201721.52164.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Friday 19 Oct 2007, Graham wrote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:10:58 +0100 > David Fletcher wrote: > > > Is anybody else getting the impression that Virgin Media is shutting > > down their broadband when they use bit torrent? > > > > Virgin Broadband have made it clear that they are putting a cap on > downloads, particularly those downloads that use peer-to-peer systems > (such as bittorrent) which they regard as the means by which > "pirated" audio tracks and dvds are disseminated. > > > Meanwhile, if you are a Virgin Broadband customer, don't use bittorrent > to download the distro...or any other p2p service.. > > -- > > Graham > > > Seems strange to me, then, that here:- http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/ they choose to host the Gutsy .torrent files! I've contacted them directly about this issue, will let you all know what they have to say about it, if anything. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 17:23:08 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:23:08 -0600 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure Message-ID: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> I followed the instruction meticulously: 1. Open the Adept Manager by going to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager (Manage Packages) OK. 2. In Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories OK. 3. Enable the "Recommended updates" and "Pre release updates" repository, close and reload OK. 4. If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered after you click "Fetch Updates" via the "Version Upgrade" button, else.. 1. Press the Full Upgrade button 2. Press the Apply Changes button 3. Once the packages are installed, exit the Adept Manager (Adept -> Quit) 4. Repeat the initial steps (1 - 3) OK.... I had to do the Full Upgrade/Apply Changes/Quit/Redo steps 1, 2 3. So now I press "Version Upgrade" and click through a couple of screens, and then I get: "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit". At least this time the failure occurred sufficiently early that I didn't end up with an unbootable system. But what could I possibly have done wrong? I have been keeping this particular system ruthlessly up to date and clean of any non-supported applications. It's about as vanilla as a system could possibly be. So how could the upgrade have failed? From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 20 17:30:40 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:30:40 -0400 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710201330.41029.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 20 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > clean of any non-supported applications. It's about as vanilla as a system > could possibly be. So how could the upgrade have failed? I have no idea, but I haven't been very impressed with Adept Updater anyway. If I do this upgrade, I'll probably do it by hand, with apt-get or aptitude. FWIW. -- D. Michael McIntyre From erebus at rogers.com Sat Oct 20 17:37:53 2007 From: erebus at rogers.com (Erebus) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:37:53 -0400 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> I had similar results happen a dozen or so times, one time I downloaded all but 7 files and then it died. So I finally backed up my data files and installed a clean new version of Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. Frank in Canada D. R. Evans wrote: > I followed the instruction meticulously: > > 1. Open the Adept Manager by going to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager > (Manage Packages) > > OK. > > 2. In Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories > > OK. > > 3. Enable the "Recommended updates" and "Pre release updates" > repository, close and reload > > OK. > > > 4. If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered > after you click "Fetch Updates" via the "Version Upgrade" button, else.. > 1. Press the Full Upgrade button > 2. Press the Apply Changes button > 3. Once the packages are installed, exit the Adept Manager (Adept > -> Quit) > 4. Repeat the initial steps (1 - 3) > > OK.... I had to do the Full Upgrade/Apply Changes/Quit/Redo steps 1, 2 3. > > So now I press "Version Upgrade" and click through a couple of screens, and > then I get: > > "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program > will now exit". > > At least this time the failure occurred sufficiently early that I didn't > end up with an unbootable system. But what could I possibly have done > wrong? I have been keeping this particular system ruthlessly up to date and > clean of any non-supported applications. It's about as vanilla as a system > could possibly be. So how could the upgrade have failed? > > > > > From harold_hartley at verizon.net Sat Oct 20 17:43:14 2007 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:43:14 -0400 Subject: printing over the network Message-ID: <471A3E32.60907@verizon.net> I will try and explain what I'm trying to do. I have a dell laptop with windowsXP on it and my desktop runs ubuntu 7.10 now... My printer in connected to the ubuntu desktop. I would like to be able to print to the printer from my laptop to my desktop which has the printer attached. I can't seem to find anything on my searches about how to make this work. Can someone out there that either has done it or knows where to find the info I need please let me know. Thank you. Harold From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 20 18:06:27 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:06:27 +0100 Subject: Q: Any bad upgrade experiences? In-Reply-To: <880dece00710200756qd2cdddck18ffa8af9034ee21@mail.gmail.com> References: <47191789.4050002@gmail.com> <200710201253.55409.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <880dece00710200756qd2cdddck18ffa8af9034ee21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710201906.27156.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 20 October 2007 15:56:21 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 20/10/2007, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Well, I can't upgrade as I seem to need another 50Mb free in my /boot > > partition. Even deleting some old files from there would only free up > > around 30Mb, so I'm going to have to wait a while :( > > How many kernels do you have in there? Anything other than kernels? > How big is /boot? My /boot is 100Mb and I have removed some old kernels and carried out the upgrade. Had to do a lot of fiddling about at the command line and I'm still not sure if everything is working correctly. Also I'm still asked if I want to upgrade. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Oct 20 18:09:06 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:09:06 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen Message-ID: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I've installed a clean Gusty system. Most of it seems to work out of the box... But if have the following problem; While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just before the kde-login screen. No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. Any suggestions? Thx, Karl From ronw at paradise.net.nz Sat Oct 20 18:23:04 2007 From: ronw at paradise.net.nz (Ron Wilson) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:23:04 +1300 Subject: printing over the network In-Reply-To: <471A3E32.60907@verizon.net> References: <471A3E32.60907@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1192904584.5495.16.camel@angela> Use Samba on Ubuntu box and that will allow Windows to see your printer ------------------- Ron Wilson I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 13:43 -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > I will try and explain what I'm trying to do. > > I have a dell laptop with windowsXP on it and my desktop runs ubuntu > 7.10 now... > My printer in connected to the ubuntu desktop. > > I would like to be able to print to the printer from my laptop to my > desktop which has the printer attached. > > I can't seem to find anything on my searches about how to make this work. > > Can someone out there that either has done it or knows where to find the > info I need please let me know. > > Thank you. > Harold > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The XP machine needs the printer set up with the Internet printing option, pointed at the IP address of the Linux machine using the generic postscript driver. I kept notes on how I did this with a headless server at work, which I've attached. If you need more, I've got other bits and pieces such as a ready hacked windoze ppd file to get it to print A2. Hope this helps. Dave -- FACT - Millions of people worldwide continue to pay money to the richest person in the world to use his products, even though perfectly good software is given away completely free of charge by the open source community! I can't understand it either. Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 -------------- next part -------------- Ubuntu "Dapper Drake" server:- Make sure the BIOS setup is for a headless server i.e. it won't boot error without a keyboard attached. Copies of the modified files are in this zip file Do a basic install of the server The procedure I followed is in this article:- http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_domaincontroller_setup_ubuntu_6.10 except I've not enabled root login. Configure the network interfaces sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces Restart the network sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart Edit hosts and add the server IP address sudo vi /etc/hosts Edit the sources file sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list Update the server sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade Install the SSH daemon for remote access sudo apt-get install ssh openssh-server Shut down the server, disconnect the keyboard, mouse, monitor. Power up the server. Log in via the network using SSH, Putty etc. If still following the article, ignore all the stuff about quotas and samba. Install the Common Unix Printing System sudo apt-get install cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint defoma fontconfig foomatic-db foomatic-filters libcupsimage2 libexpat1 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libjpeg62 libpaper1 libpng12-0 libslp1 libtiff4 patch perl perl-modules ttf-bitstream-vera ucf The following was taken from:- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310450 To enable remote administrative access, edit the CUPS configuration files browse.conf, cupsd.conf and ports.conf to make them look like the included files. The originals are also included for comparison. Restart the CUPS daemon sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart It should now be possible to use a web browser to remotely log in to and configure the server:- http://ServerIPAddress:631/ Note that in order to work with windows it seems to be necessary to add all printers to classes, then print to a class. The rest is up to you! If using Netgear PS101 network print servers it may be necessary to flash the firmware to get it to work with Linux servers. Notes are published here:- http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=66452 Then, in CUPS, address the printer as lpd://PrintServerIPAddress/P1 Windows XP desktops:- With a text editor, open C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and add a hostname and the IP address of the print server. Click Start->ControlPanel and select Printers and Faxes. Click Add a Printer->Next, Network Printer->Next. Select "Connect to a printer on the Internet or on a home or office network:" In the URL box, enter http://hostname:631/classes/classname and click the next button. Select on the left, Manufacturer Generic, and on the right, MS Publisher Imagesetter and click OK. This driver selection sends out Postscript, i.e. it cares not what the manufacturer or model of the printer is. It just needs to know what the paper size is. If paper size larger than A3 e.g. A2 is needed, a "hack" is necessary. Look in C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3 Delete MSGENBW.BPD and edit MSGENBW.PPD to add the A2 or whatever other missing paper size is needed. See the included example. The deleted MSGENBW.BPD will then be rebuilt from the new MSGENBW.PPD when the driver is used. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Oct 20 18:38:42 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:38:42 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > But if have the following problem; > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just before > the kde-login screen. > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > Any suggestions? > > Thx, Karl Known problem. We all have it. From harold_hartley at verizon.net Sat Oct 20 18:52:24 2007 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:52:24 -0400 Subject: printing over the network In-Reply-To: <200710201933.08961.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <471A3E32.60907@verizon.net> <200710201933.08961.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <471A4E68.201@verizon.net> David Fletcher wrote: > On Saturday 20 Oct 2007, Harold Hartley wrote: > >> I will try and explain what I'm trying to do. >> >> I have a dell laptop with windowsXP on it and my desktop runs ubuntu >> 7.10 now... >> My printer in connected to the ubuntu desktop. >> >> I would like to be able to print to the printer from my laptop to my >> desktop which has the printer attached. >> >> I can't seem to find anything on my searches about how to make this work. >> >> Can someone out there that either has done it or knows where to find the >> info I need please let me know. >> >> Thank you. >> Harold >> >> >> > > You need to use CUPS, and make sure port 631 is open if you're firewalled. > > The XP machine needs the printer set up with the Internet printing option, > pointed at the IP address of the Linux machine using the generic postscript > driver. I kept notes on how I did this with a headless server at work, which > I've attached. If you need more, I've got other bits and pieces such as a > ready hacked windoze ppd file to get it to print A2. > > Hope this helps. > > Dave > > > > Thanks for the info. I will try it later or tomorrow.. Harold From doug at curreycentral.com Sat Oct 20 18:57:30 2007 From: doug at curreycentral.com (Doug) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:57:30 -0700 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen Message-ID: <20071020115730.f7064773c0193405d72d413b439cb0ef.e2c1705c70.wbe@email.secureserver.net> > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Gutsy - No splash screen > From: Bruce Marshall > Date: Sat, October 20, 2007 2:38 pm > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > But if have the following problem; > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just before > > the kde-login screen. > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thx, Karl > > Known problem. We all have it. > Works fine for me. I did I fresh install didn't upgrade. Would that make any difference? Doug From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Oct 20 18:58:20 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:58:20 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) Thx for the info. Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > But if have the following problem; > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just > > before the kde-login screen. > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thx, Karl > > Known problem. We all have it. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Oct 20 19:04:46 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:04:46 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <20071020115730.f7064773c0193405d72d413b439cb0ef.e2c1705c70.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071020115730.f7064773c0193405d72d413b439cb0ef.e2c1705c70.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <200710201504.46483.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 20 October 2007, Doug wrote: > Works fine for me.   I did I fresh install didn't upgrade.  Would that > make any difference? I did a fresh install too.... but I lied... I do, sometimes, get a splash screen on some computers I have but not always depending on what my boot settings are. So I know it fails sometimes on some computers. Additionally, the framebuffer stuff is all screwed up and I can get any text on boot that looks decent... and using the same settings as I used on feisty gives me a black screen, no text. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Oct 20 19:05:19 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:05:19 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710201505.19256.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Well Bruce, that's very...  reassuring :) > > Thx for the info. It's been reported in several forms (of the way the bug hits) From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Oct 20 21:56:11 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:56:11 +0200 Subject: shockwave-flash Message-ID: What is the problem with shockwave-flash for konqueror? I cannot watch videos in the latest version. Any hints? thank you -- Pol From bootgr at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 22:13:38 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:13:38 -0500 Subject: shockwave-flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <720b310e0710201513j689a6dbfg576f88b8bd22060b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/07, xpol wrote: > What is the problem with shockwave-flash for konqueror? > I cannot watch videos in the latest version. > Any hints? > > thank you > > -- > Pol Shockwave or Flash ? They're two different things. Adobe FLASH is supported on Linux, but Adobe Shockwave is not. You need to install mozilla-flash ? ( apt-cache search flash should turn it up ) to get Flash plugin working for firefox. Greg From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Oct 20 22:28:28 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:28:28 +0200 Subject: shockwave-flash References: <720b310e0710201513j689a6dbfg576f88b8bd22060b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Greg Booth wrote: > Shockwave or Flash ? They're two different things. Adobe FLASH is > supported on Linux, but Adobe Shockwave is not. You need to install > mozilla-flash ? ( apt-cache search flash should turn it up ) to get > Flash plugin working for firefox. > >From the the video on the web i have been redirected to: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash Is that 'Adobe shockwave'? Anyway, firefox displays the video, only konqueror doesn't. Nothing has changed in the paths to plugins. Until a few weeks ago, what was ok for mozilla, was ok for konq as well. thank you -- Pol From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sat Oct 20 22:33:43 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:33:43 -0500 Subject: UUID: One More Question... Message-ID: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Apologies... forgot to add another rather important question to my previous post: When grub is included in an upgrade, the wrong UUID is put in the menu.lst file, because the copy of kubuntu was restored from backup, and the partition was, of course, formatted to accommodate. So... the question is... where is the updater finding the OLD UUID information?? I must put the new info in its place, of course, so I no longer have to change grub --and perhaps fstab-- to the /dev/hdx format. Thanks... -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From bootgr at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 22:35:53 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:35:53 -0500 Subject: shockwave-flash In-Reply-To: References: <720b310e0710201513j689a6dbfg576f88b8bd22060b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710201535n4de9063djd951b51ef6dd1fae@mail.gmail.com> > > Shockwave or Flash ? They're two different things. Adobe FLASH is > > supported on Linux, but Adobe Shockwave is not. You need to install > > mozilla-flash ? ( apt-cache search flash should turn it up ) to get > > Flash plugin working for firefox. > > > > From the the video on the web i have been redirected to: > http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash > > Is that 'Adobe shockwave'? > > Anyway, firefox displays the video, only konqueror doesn't. Nothing has > changed in the paths to plugins. Until a few weeks ago, what was ok for > mozilla, was ok for konq as well. > > thank you > > -- > Pol And that's Shockwave you linked, and there is no shockwave for Linux. Period Shockwave is Flash but with more programming. Most of the games you play online are shockwave, unless they're VERY simple games that can be done in Flash. I'm no expert though, anyone else with more knowledge on it chime in. Greg From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Oct 20 22:47:06 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:47:06 +0200 Subject: shockwave-flash References: <720b310e0710201513j689a6dbfg576f88b8bd22060b@mail.gmail.com> <720b310e0710201535n4de9063djd951b51ef6dd1fae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Greg Booth wrote: >> > Shockwave or Flash ? They're two different things. Adobe FLASH is >> > supported on Linux, but Adobe Shockwave is not. You need to install >> > mozilla-flash ? ( apt-cache search flash should turn it up ) to get >> > Flash plugin working for firefox. >> > I cannot find mozilla-flash for gutsy: % apt-cache search flash |grep mozilla mozilla-noscript - Javascript/plugins permissions manager for Iceweasel and Iceape mozilla-plugin-gnash - free SWF movie player - Plugin for Mozilla and derivatives swfdec-mozilla - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash) Anyway firefox is working. So shockwave works for Firefox, not for Konqueror? thank you -- Pol From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 20 23:58:22 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:58:22 -0400 Subject: shockwave-flash In-Reply-To: References: <720b310e0710201535n4de9063djd951b51ef6dd1fae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710201958.22732.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 20 October 2007, xpol wrote: > Anyway firefox is working. > So shockwave works for Firefox, not for Konqueror? No, there is no shockwave for Linux at all, but I think "shockwave flash" really is just flash. If a given site is working in Firefox, it should work with Konqueror too. To compare which plugins what browser knows about, you can go enter "about:plugins" into the URL bar of each. In my case, they're both showing pretty much or exactly the same plugins, and they show the flash plugin as "Shockwave Flash." This is not the same thing as "Shockwave." If a site requires Shockwave, you are completely screwed on Linux, with absolutely no hope (unless maybe you get the Windows plugin working via WINE or something, but let's not go there.) -- D. Michael McIntyre From grey at dmiyu.org Sat Oct 20 13:11:05 2007 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? References: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: On 2007-10-20, David McGlone wrote: > I have been running 7.10 RC for about a month and I tried to upgrade via > adept yesterday and adept tells me my system is up to date, but on the other > hand it keeps notifying me that there is a version upgrade available. What does apt-get or aptitude tell you? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Oct 21 03:27:22 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:27:22 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: mgetty fax manager enquiries] In-Reply-To: <4717DB4B.5030605@rlknight.com> References: <1192498079.6181.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4714E4A2.9010509@rlknight.com> <1192669018.5265.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4717DB4B.5030605@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <1192937242.15607.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Oct. 20, 2007 Soory for the delay Rick , I have been away for the week. I will get with these packages next week and let you know how things worked out Tahnk you Denis Gaulin Le jeudi 18 octobre 2007 à 15:16 -0700, Rick Knight a écrit : > Denis Gaulin wrote: > > Le 17 oct., 2007 > > > > Thank you Rick, I will get under way to download these packages ans see > > what happen. > > > > It is true I do not use much fax nowaday but often I need to send faxes > > to hospital administration and purchasing dept. people for my work. And > > these people like to have fax as a confirmation of quotes or other > > discussions. > > > > Right now I use my other Mac 10.4 computer . > > > > To close I may get back to yoou for help.... > > > > Denis Gauiin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 09:19 -0700, Rick Knight a écrit : > > > >> Denis Gaulin wrote: > >> > >>> Oct 15, 2007 21.27hra > >>> > >>> I send this request once more hoping someone could give me a hint > >>> > >>> Thank you > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Subject: > >>> mgetty fax manager enquiries > >>> From: > >>> Denis Gaulin <2050gaulin at videotron.ca> > >>> Date: > >>> Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:52:40 -0400 > >>> To: > >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>> > >>> To: > >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>> > >>> > >>> Oct. 10, 2007 > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, my name is Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc. I read most of the queries > >>> and answers on this list and copy those I think important to learn. > >>> This is very good... The more I go the more I enjoy Ubuntu. Evolution is > >>> great for Email ! > >>> Here is my problem. > >>> I use Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06LTS and I am not very experienced with this > >>> OS. My equipment is a mobo MSI- 6195 ( K7-PRO ) and a winfax modem , > >>> Conexant, HCF56K Dat /*fax modem, class 2 built by GVC Corp. ( from a > >>> former IBM APTIVA computer). The modem is connected to the telephone > >>> RJ-4/6 port ( wall plug ). > >>> > >>> >From the Ubuntu site I have downloaded the Mgetty ( 1.1.33-3ubuntu2) > >>> package. > >>> I just installed it using Synaptic . These compressed files have beeen > >>> installed . > >>> the following files are present in Synaptic and installed; > >>> mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-pvftools, mgetty-voice > >>> > >>> However I see nothing in my desktop APPLICATIONS section, nothing > >>> anywhere else. to lead me to configure and initiate mgetty. > >>> > >>> The mgetty -docs literature says that we have to compile the program by > >>> copying policy.h-dist to policy.h and edit it. Then edit the Makefile > >>> to specify installation paths . > >>> I see none of those file in all of the usr or etc /mgetty files. I > >>> have the impression that this is supposed to be done by Synaptic..... > >>> > >>> I tried to search for these files ( policy.h-dist, policy.h and > >>> Makefile ) but nothing pertaining to mgetty to give me a clue as to what > >>> to do to configure and start mgetty to run. > >>> > >>> All of the /usr/share/mgetty files give no clue > >>> all the /etc/mgetty/mgetty.config, faxrunq.config, dialin.config, > >>> sendfax.config files are said to be only samples of what to write. > >>> Where are the actual config files and how to initiate real > >>> configuration? > >>> > >>> I am lost... anyone could tell me the way to get this program to run ? > >>> > >>> Thanking you in advance > >>> > >>> Denis Gaulin > >>> > >>> 2050gaulin at videotron.ca > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I used to rely pretty heavily on being able to fax from my desktop but > >> not so much anymore, so I haven't install any of the fax tools I used to > >> us. But what always worked for me on previous versions of Kubuntu, > >> Slackware and RedHat was mgetty+sendfax, hylafax, tkhylafax and > >> faxprint. Those 4 tools together will give you a very complete > >> desktop/network fax solution. Of course, the only caveat is having a > >> modem that will function with linux. > >> > >> Install those 4 packages, configure mgetty+sendfax, and if you still > >> need help getting it to work, come back here. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > As an update to my previous message. 2 packages form the repos, > hylafax-client and hylafax-server. Install those with Adept or apt-get. > Run /usr/sbin/faxsetup to configure your modem. Download and build > faxfrontend (here > ). In the > instructions for faxfrontend, one step is to add the cupsd user to > sudoer. This step is critical, faxfrontend won't work without it. > > Good Luck > Rick > From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 03:32:06 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:32:06 -0600 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> Message-ID: <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> Erebus said the following at 10/20/2007 11:37 AM : > I had similar results happen a dozen or so times, one time I downloaded > all but 7 files and then it died. So I finally backed up my data files > and installed a clean new version of Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. > On about the sixth attempt, the upgrader application passed the verification step. Several hours passed while it downloaded the upgrade files. And then the application disappeared from the screen. So I did it again; this time at least it was smart enough not to download the files again... but the application disappeared again. I tried one more time... same thing. I am sorely tempted to say something I would regret, so I won't. At this point I think I have a system that has downloaded all the necessary upgrade files, but won't actually do anything with them. I looked in /var/log/messages but there's no indication there of anything wrong. What do I do now? Other than perform a full installation from scratch, which really defeats the point of Kubuntu having a mechanism for upgrading the OS. Doc From karlok at fastmail.fm Sun Oct 21 03:47:54 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (kk) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:47:54 -0700 Subject: UUID: One More Question... In-Reply-To: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <471ACBEA.2040708@fastmail.fm> Yogich7230 wrote: > Apologies... forgot to add another rather important question to my previous > post: > When grub is included in an upgrade, the wrong UUID is put in the menu.lst > file, because the copy of kubuntu was restored from backup, and the partition > was, of course, formatted to accommodate. > > So... the question is... where is the updater finding the OLD UUID > information?? I must put the new info in its place, of course, so I no > longer have to change grub --and perhaps fstab-- to the /dev/hdx format. > > Thanks... > The menu.lst file contains defaults for new kernel entries in what look like comments. My menu.lst file contains: # kopt=root=UUID=5128e378-614f-4d2c-ab21-f74c3e4e20c2 ro I suspect that this is what you're looking for. Karl From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sun Oct 21 04:47:16 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:47:16 -0500 Subject: UUID: One More Question... In-Reply-To: <471ACBEA.2040708@fastmail.fm> References: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471ACBEA.2040708@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200710202347.16423.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007 22:47:54 kk wrote: > > The menu.lst file contains defaults for new kernel entries in what look > like comments. My menu.lst file contains: > > # kopt=root=UUID=5128e378-614f-4d2c-ab21-f74c3e4e20c2 ro > > I suspect that this is what you're looking for. > > Karl Forgive me, Karl... I seem to have not been clear. I read the original post a couple times, and STILL left out something important. Let me try, again. :) Here's the scenario: 1. Kubuntu had to be restored from backup, for whatever the reason 2. Reformatting the partition means the UUID information is out of date 3. Along comes the adept-updater, and wants to upgrade some files 4. The files are upgraded ...among them, the kernel 5. Because the kernel is updated, a new menu.lst is created, and the ORIGINAL UUID(s) are placed in the new menu.lst, NOT the NEW UUID(s) Now, the $64,000 question: Where is adept FINDING the obsolete UUID(s)?? I need to change it in the file adept is looking at, along with any other changed UUID(s) resulting from reformatted partitions. I hope that helps to further clarify what I seek. -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sun Oct 21 04:56:11 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:56:11 -0500 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710202356.11413.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007 22:32:06 D. R. Evans wrote: > Erebus said the following at 10/20/2007 11:37 AM : > > I had similar results happen a dozen or so times, one time I downloaded > > all but 7 files and then it died. So I finally backed up my data files > > and installed a clean new version of Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. > > On about the sixth attempt, the upgrader application passed the > verification step. > > Several hours passed while it downloaded the upgrade files. > > And then the application disappeared from the screen. > > So I did it again; this time at least it was smart enough not to download > the files again... but the application disappeared again. > > I tried one more time... same thing. > > I am sorely tempted to say something I would regret, so I won't. > > At this point I think I have a system that has downloaded all the necessary > upgrade files, but won't actually do anything with them. I looked in > /var/log/messages but there's no indication there of anything wrong. > > What do I do now? Other than perform a full installation from scratch, > which really defeats the point of Kubuntu having a mechanism for upgrading > the OS. > > Doc Hello, Doc ... I am really wondering how many other boxes this might be affecting. I am on a 3-year-old(?) retired-from-business Dell Inspiron 1100, have installed & updated Gutsy on two partitions of the HD more than once, because of other issues. Everything seems to run as a well-oiled machine. In my case... it was the installation that was causing me some grief --like a missed installation step, for instance-- and not the updater. If more people are having this prob than are not, perhaps it is time to report a bug...? Or is it a hdwe problem? Best... -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From karlok at fastmail.fm Sun Oct 21 05:40:24 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:40:24 -0700 Subject: UUID: One More Question... In-Reply-To: <200710202347.16423.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471ACBEA.2040708@fastmail.fm> <200710202347.16423.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <471AE648.1020203@fastmail.fm> Yogich7230 wrote: > > Now, the $64,000 question: > Where is adept FINDING the obsolete UUID(s)?? I need to change it in the file > adept is looking at, along with any other changed UUID(s) resulting from > reformatted partitions. > I guess I wasn't very clear. What I was trying to say is that when a new kernel is installed, update-grub generates a new menu.lst and gets its default options from the lines that look like comments in the old menu.lst. Among them is the # kopt line, which specifies the root UUID. The new menu.lst will contain whatever UUID is specified here, not what is in the actual kernel lines. Hope this makes sense. Karl From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Sun Oct 21 09:53:04 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: shockwave-flash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <158373.54564.qm@web59308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> personally i have had good luck using the gnash plug-in with konqueror, but that is just my 2cents worth :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Oct 21 10:08:37 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:08:37 +0200 Subject: storage media dialog (7.10) [solved] In-Reply-To: <4717C1F1.5060905@gmx.net> References: <4717C1F1.5060905@gmx.net> Message-ID: <471B2525.1080204@gmx.net> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Hello all, > I have recently upgraded from 6.10 to 7.10. Everything went ok, with the > exception of a few glitches. Most prominent fail is the absence of the > media dialog which appears when a new medium (cd, usb-drive, > sd-card,...) is attached to the system (The one where kubuntu asks what > to do with the content). > I can re-initiate the dialog if I just change a minor setting. For > example if I check "Enable medium application autostart after mount", > click apply, uncheck "Enable ..." and click ok. > This is in "Settings"->"Control Center"->"Peripherals"->"Storage > Media"->"Advanced" > Now, after plugging in an external disk, the dialog shows up as normal. > After a reboot the dialog does not show up again until I repeat the > above procedure. > Anybody know how to fix this? > > Mike > By accident I got the dialog appearing as normal agin. During backup with rsync I got read-error messages regarding three or four 1-Byte-files with "lock" in the filename, in the ~/.kde directory. With permission set to 600 and user:group as root:root I could neither read these files nor delete them, only as root. Removing them got my file dialog back to work. Only, I don't know which one of these files was exactly causing the dialog trouble. I just deleted them all in one go. Mike From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 21 13:01:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:01:00 -0300 Subject: UUID References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710192045.35492.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <1267795.1UxN0XvCnM@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 19 October 2007 5:28:27 pm Yogich7230 wrote: >> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a >> backup is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, >> since the UUID is different. > > cat /etc/fstab er, no. If he's having trouble getting it to mount, then the one in fstab isn't the one actually on the partition ... "sudo vol_id /dev/xxxx" will tell you what the UUID for partition /dev/xxxx is. -- derek From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Oct 21 14:13:31 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:13:31 -0400 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 20 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: >Erebus said the following at 10/20/2007 11:37 AM : >> I had similar results happen a dozen or so times, one time I downloaded >> all but 7 files and then it died. So I finally backed up my data files >> and installed a clean new version of Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. > >On about the sixth attempt, the upgrader application passed the >verification step. > >Several hours passed while it downloaded the upgrade files. > >And then the application disappeared from the screen. > >So I did it again; this time at least it was smart enough not to download >the files again... but the application disappeared again. > >I tried one more time... same thing. > >I am sorely tempted to say something I would regret, so I won't. > >At this point I think I have a system that has downloaded all the necessary >upgrade files, but won't actually do anything with them. I looked in >/var/log/messages but there's no indication there of anything wrong. > >What do I do now? Other than perform a full installation from scratch, >which really defeats the point of Kubuntu having a mechanism for upgrading >the OS. > > Doc This is sounding like a hardware problem, memory being the easiest to check, have you let memtest86 hammer on it for a day lately? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Immutability, Three Rules of: (1) If a tarpaulin can flap, it will. (2) If a small boy can get dirty, he will. (3) If a teenager can go out, he will. From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Oct 21 14:18:34 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:18:34 +0200 Subject: UUID In-Reply-To: <1267795.1UxN0XvCnM@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710192045.35492.d.mcglone@att.net> <1267795.1UxN0XvCnM@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <471B5FBA.1070304@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > >> On Friday 19 October 2007 5:28:27 pm Yogich7230 wrote: >>> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a >>> backup is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to mount, >>> since the UUID is different. >> cat /etc/fstab > > er, no. If he's having trouble getting it to mount, then the one in fstab > isn't the one actually on the partition ... > > "sudo vol_id /dev/xxxx" will tell you what the UUID for partition /dev/xxxx > is. A tool I used in the past was "disktype". It lists information about partions or lists partions with their inforamtion for a whole drive. Amongst the partition info are the filetype and the UUID. From mlsoft at videotron.ca Sun Oct 21 14:54:38 2007 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:54:38 -0400 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200710211054.38577.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On October 21, 2007 10:13:31 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 October 2007, D. R. Evans wrote: > >Erebus said the following at 10/20/2007 11:37 AM : > >> I had similar results happen a dozen or so times, one time I downloaded > >> all but 7 files and then it died. So I finally backed up my data files > >> and installed a clean new version of Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. > > > >On about the sixth attempt, the upgrader application passed the > >verification step. > > > >Several hours passed while it downloaded the upgrade files. > > > >And then the application disappeared from the screen. > > > >So I did it again; this time at least it was smart enough not to download > >the files again... but the application disappeared again. > > > >I tried one more time... same thing. > > > >I am sorely tempted to say something I would regret, so I won't. > > > >At this point I think I have a system that has downloaded all the necessary > >upgrade files, but won't actually do anything with them. I looked in > >/var/log/messages but there's no indication there of anything wrong. > > > >What do I do now? Other than perform a full installation from scratch, > >which really defeats the point of Kubuntu having a mechanism for upgrading > >the OS. > > > > Doc > > This is sounding like a hardware problem, memory being the easiest to check, > have you let memtest86 hammer on it for a day lately? > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Immutability, Three Rules of: > (1) If a tarpaulin can flap, it will. > (2) If a small boy can get dirty, he will. > (3) If a teenager can go out, he will. > I believe you had the same problem than anyone on 18-20 oct This seems to me not to be a system problem of any kind, (not for me here) but a simple overflow of too many peoples wanting the kde-358 upgrade of feisty, and the others wanting the gusty upgrade... and i would bet we were MANY repeated on 21, and all went well just try again today or tomorrow, it will probably work well. (worked for me) we are all hungry for new code... -- Martin Laberge, 30 years of unix admin... and still learning! mlsoft at videotron.ca (418) 575-2945 From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Oct 21 15:07:43 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:07:43 -0500 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471A3CF1.4060805@rogers.com> <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <471B6B3F.8040000@swbell.net> I said yesterday that I had upgraded to Gutsy without any problems. Well.......I thought I had, but..................... I missed a step in the adept upgrade. I tried it yesterday morning. It didn't configure the video properly. All I got a a black screen with a message from my monitor that the settings weren't supported. I seemed sort of ticked off about it to. I know there was probably some simple CLI way to correct this but not being CLI friendly about my only option was to do a fresh install. [ In SuSE I could just run sax2 from the command line and set it up but (K)Ubuntu doesn't have sax2 ] Anyway, that's where I am this morning on my desktop. The laptop stalled just after the download and before anything was installed. The computer wasn't locked up, just the updater wouldn't function. The laptop still runs Feisty just fine EXCEPT I can't use Adept in any form. The update program has the database locked. When I rebooted the laptop it tried to restart the upgrade program but said some file was missing. I'm thinking a fresh install is the option of choice here. The laptop is no big deal as it doesn't have all that much on it to start with. Anyway, the upgrade did NOT go well from the Adept Upgrade way of doing it. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Sun Oct 21 16:23:57 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:23:57 -0500 Subject: UUID: One More Question... In-Reply-To: <471AE648.1020203@fastmail.fm> References: <200710201733.44178.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710202347.16423.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471AE648.1020203@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200710211123.57743.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Sunday 21 October 2007 00:40:24 Karl wrote: > Yogich7230 wrote: > > Now, the $64,000 question: > > Where is adept FINDING the obsolete UUID(s)?? I need to change it in the > > file adept is looking at, along with any other changed UUID(s) resulting > > from reformatted partitions. > > I guess I wasn't very clear. What I was trying to say is that when a > new kernel is installed, update-grub generates a new menu.lst and gets > its default options from the lines that look like comments in the old > menu.lst. Among them is the # kopt line, which specifies the root UUID. > The new menu.lst will contain whatever UUID is specified here, not > what is in the actual kernel lines. > > Hope this makes sense. > > Karl Oh! Okay... It does make sense, now. Thanks, a bunch! :) -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Oct 21 17:09:06 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:09:06 -0500 Subject: demux????? Message-ID: <471B87B2.5070505@swbell.net> What the heck does this mean: 11:53:34 AM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdd< -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on. From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Oct 21 18:33:53 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:33:53 -0400 Subject: demux????? In-Reply-To: <471B87B2.5070505@swbell.net> References: <471B87B2.5070505@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200710211433.53840.d.mcglone@att.net> On Sunday 21 October 2007 1:09:06 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > What the heck does this mean: > > 11:53:34 AM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdd< I may be entirely wrong, but it looks like xine configuration is pointing to the wrong place for the demuxer. Check your configuration in xine and point it to your demuxer. Another scenario could be that you don't have a demuxer installed. -- David M. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 21 18:28:36 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:28:36 -0300 Subject: UUID References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <200710192045.35492.d.mcglone@att.net> <1267795.1UxN0XvCnM@cedar.serverforest.com> <471B5FBA.1070304@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1747350.OVYOcEEH7H@cedar.serverforest.com> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Friday 19 October 2007 5:28:27 pm Yogich7230 wrote: >>>> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a >>>> backup is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to >>>> mount, since the UUID is different. >>> cat /etc/fstab >> >> er, no. If he's having trouble getting it to mount, then the one in >> fstab isn't the one actually on the partition ... >> >> "sudo vol_id /dev/xxxx" will tell you what the UUID for partition >> /dev/xxxx is. > > A tool I used in the past was "disktype". It lists information about > partions or lists partions with their inforamtion for a whole drive. > Amongst the partition info are the filetype and the UUID. Yes, there are actually many ways to get the UUID - it was just that fstab isn't a reliable one :) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 21 18:33:49 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:33:49 -0300 Subject: Anyone know what this would mean? References: <200710200900.43589.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710200911.18368.d.mcglone@att.net> <1192887602.5495.15.camel@angela> Message-ID: <5358033.Arzpix3onF@cedar.serverforest.com> Ron Wilson wrote: >you live to be one hundred, you've got it made. Very few people die > past that age. -- George Burns > Oh, the irony. George was, of course, two months past his 100th birthday when he died... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 21 19:19:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:19:59 -0300 Subject: demux????? References: <471B87B2.5070505@swbell.net> <200710211433.53840.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4614451.s9WGfq9Bip@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 1:09:06 pm Billie Walsh wrote: >> What the heck does this mean: >> >> 11:53:34 AM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdd< > > I may be entirely wrong, but it looks like xine configuration is pointing > to the wrong place for the demuxer. Check your configuration in xine and > point it to your demuxer. > > Another scenario could be that you don't have a demuxer installed. I'm reasonably certain that it has to be the latter. Something from xine suggesting what it's actually looking for would be helpful. I had the same problem last week and finally concluded that there wasn't any package I could download that would help with the particular DVD. -- derek From jessie at confettiantiques.com Sun Oct 21 20:49:09 2007 From: jessie at confettiantiques.com (Jessie Adan Morris) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:49:09 -0600 Subject: Can't Install 7.10 (Gutsy) Message-ID: <471BBB45.8020103@confettiantiques.com> Alright, so I am a fairly proficient Linux user, but I get this working. I have tried these CD's: Kubuntu Live CD 7.10 Kubuntu Alternative CD 7.10 Ubuntu Live CD 7.10 and they all seem to freeze during boot. I have 7.04 installed, and I tried to upgrade, but it still froze on boot after a restart. I think that there is a bug in the kernel. It actually freezes in two places. I removed quiet and splash from the options and it said something about DMA so I added "dma=off' to the boot options. Then it seems to get stuck at an NTFS one. It says something like "Checking /dev/hda1" and it never says anything more. (One time, I was able to boot, but thats it). Also, I upgraded from the Alternative CD because Adapt doesn't want to do a distro upgrade or what not. -- ---------------------------------- Jessie Adan Morris jessie at confettiantiques.com Take life as it comes. From slewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 21 21:08:11 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:08:11 -0400 Subject: mail-notification to start on boot up Message-ID: <471BBFBB.2030605@bmts.com> Hi, I have been trying to get mail-notifier to start when the computer starts, but I ma having trouble. I first tried by selecting the option to start on boot up, but that did not work. I then tried Kron by adding the command mail-notifier and select every 5 minutes to run, but that did not work. I then added a link to mail-notifier to the Autostart folder, but that did not work either. So, how do you get a program to start when the computer starts? -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From cms0009 at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 21:12:50 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:12:50 -0400 Subject: Java Speed Test for browser Message-ID: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> Just did a test with Konqueror 3.5.8 and got a score of 2215 ms but when I did a test with Opera 9.25 got a score of 522 ms There seems to be major differences between browser on how Java is processed. Check it for you self: http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed2007.php Cheer's Richard From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Oct 21 21:31:49 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:31:49 +0100 Subject: Java Speed Test for browser In-Reply-To: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471BC545.7030408@tiscali.co.uk> Richard wrote: > Just did a test with Konqueror 3.5.8 and got a score of 2215 ms > but when I did a test with Opera 9.25 got a score of 522 ms > There seems to be major differences between browser on how Java is processed. > > Check it for you self: > http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed2007.php > > Cheer's > Richard 1) It's JavaScript, not Java that's being tested... 2) I did the test with Konqueror and Firefox Konqueror 3.5.8 = around 3000 Firefox 2.0.0.6 = around 1300 I did the test multiple times and the result spread over and under those values by around +/-20. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From paul at lemmons.name Sun Oct 21 21:45:12 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:45:12 -0700 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471BC868.1090703@lemmons.name> D. R. Evans wrote: > I followed the instruction meticulously: > > 1. Open the Adept Manager by going to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager > (Manage Packages) > > OK. > > 2. In Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories > > OK. > > 3. Enable the "Recommended updates" and "Pre release updates" > repository, close and reload > > OK. > > > 4. If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered > after you click "Fetch Updates" via the "Version Upgrade" button, else.. > 1. Press the Full Upgrade button > 2. Press the Apply Changes button > 3. Once the packages are installed, exit the Adept Manager (Adept > -> Quit) > 4. Repeat the initial steps (1 - 3) > > OK.... I had to do the Full Upgrade/Apply Changes/Quit/Redo steps 1, 2 3. > > So now I press "Version Upgrade" and click through a couple of screens, and > then I get: > > "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program > will now exit". > > At least this time the failure occurred sufficiently early that I didn't > end up with an unbootable system. But what could I possibly have done > wrong? I have been keeping this particular system ruthlessly up to date and > clean of any non-supported applications. It's about as vanilla as a system > could possibly be. So how could the upgrade have failed? > You would not happen to be using the Radeon graphics drivers, are you? I have heard of systems hanging with them. If so, try switching to non-proprietary ATI drivers. It could be that it is "X" that is hanging. From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 22:40:17 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:40:17 -0600 Subject: feisty -> gutsy upgrade failure In-Reply-To: <200710211054.38577.mlsoft@videotron.ca> References: <471A397C.8080602@gmail.com> <471AC836.9090300@gmail.com> <200710211013.31865.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200710211054.38577.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <471BD551.2080300@gmail.com> Martin Laberge said the following at 10/21/2007 08:54 AM : > > I believe you had the same problem than anyone on 18-20 oct > > This seems to me not to be a system problem of any kind, (not for me here) > but a simple overflow of too many peoples wanting the kde-358 upgrade of feisty, > and the others wanting the gusty upgrade... and i would bet we were MANY > > repeated on 21, and all went well > > just try again today or tomorrow, it will probably work well. (worked for me) > Yep; I just tried it again and it seems to have worked. Next time I'll wait a few days. If I have the patience. I see three issues so far: one I have resolved: (1): it seems that by default the required code to perform NFS mounts is missing. By googling, I discovered that one needs to install nfs-common manually (this has been reported as a bug and will presumably be fixed shortly). Installing nfs-common indeed allowed me to perform NFS mounts. The next two I haven't figured out yet: (2): The log-in screen is HUGE and I can see only part of it on the 15" monitor on that machine. I have to kind-of scroll it around with the mouse in order to log in. So how do I fix the size of the log-in screen so it fits on the monitor? Once I log in to KDE everything is fine. (3): I don't see any sign of KDE4. Where is it hiding? (I thought that it would be an option on the login screen or at least somewhere obvious, but I don't see it mentioned anywhere. This is pretty old hardware (form the year 2000; it orginally came with... ugh! WinME installed), so that machine won't be able to take advantage of any of the fancy 3D stuff, but presumably I still ought to be able to run KDE4, or does KDE4 need the fancy modern hardware and Kubuntu is smart enough not to tell me about it because it won't run?) Doc From slewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 21 23:18:01 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:18:01 -0400 Subject: Keyboard Died Message-ID: <471BDE29.5050502@bmts.com> Hi, my keyboard stopped working all of a sudden. I would like to file a bug report for this, but I don't have a clue witch package could have caused the problem. Also, I don't have much information about the problem because there was no error reports and the computer was working fine, I was able to use the mouse as normal, except for the keyboard. I was forced to reboot the computer and after the reboot everything went back to normal, no problems with the keyboard. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Oct 21 23:37:45 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: Java Speed Test for browser In-Reply-To: <471BC545.7030408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> <471BC545.7030408@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710211937.46052.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 21 October 2007, Wulfy wrote: > 2) I did the test with Konqueror and Firefox > > Konqueror 3.5.8 = around 3000 > > Firefox 2.0.0.6 = around 1300 Me too, but with older versions. Konqueror 3.5.6 and Firefox 2.0.0.3 here, and times of around 3800 and 2200, respectively. Interesting, but I find this isn't something that would interest me in switching to Firefox as my default browser. I just don't like it that much. Maybe because I had already been using Linux exclusively for quite some time when Firefox came onto the scene, and its Windowsiness means nothing to me. -- D. Michael McIntyre From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Oct 22 01:47:02 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:47:02 -0500 Subject: demux????? In-Reply-To: <200710211433.53840.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <471B87B2.5070505@swbell.net> <200710211433.53840.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <471C0116.9030000@swbell.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 1:09:06 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > >> What the heck does this mean: >> >> 11:53:34 AM: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hdd< >> > > I may be entirely wrong, but it looks like xine configuration is pointing to > the wrong place for the demuxer. Check your configuration in xine and point > it to your demuxer. > > Another scenario could be that you don't have a demuxer installed. > Well.......... I found four things in Adept that referred to "demux" and installed all four. Still no luck. I looked at the ~/billie/xine/ config file and lit looks like EVERYTHING is commented out. What little bit I saw that had to do with DVD's: > # Last DVB channel viewed > # numeric, default: -1 > #media.dvb.last_channel:-1 > > # default language for DVD playback > # string, default: en > #media.dvd.language:en > > # region the DVD player claims to be in (1 to 8) > # numeric, default: 1 > #media.dvd.region:1 > > # device used for DVD playback > # string, default: /dev/dvd > #media.dvd.device:/dev/dvd > > # raw device set up for DVD access > # string, default: /dev/rdvd > #media.dvd.raw_device:/dev/rdvd > > # read-ahead caching > # bool, default: 1 > #media.dvd.readahead:1 > > # CSS decryption method > # { key disc title }, default: 0 > #media.dvd.css_decryption_method:key > > # play mode when title/chapter is given > # { entire dvd one chapter }, default: 0 > #media.dvd.play_single_chapter:entire dvd > > # unit for seeking > # { seek in program chain seek in program }, default: 0 > #media.dvd.seek_behaviour:seek in program chain > > # unit for the skip action > # { skip program skip part skip title }, default: 0 > #media.dvd.skip_behaviour:skip program > > # path to the title key cache > # string, default: /home/billie0w/.dvdcss/ > #media.dvd.css_cache_path:/home/billie0w/.dvdcss/ > > # file browsing start location > # string, default: /home/billie0w > #media.files.origin_path:/home/billie0w > > # list hidden files > # bool, default: 0 > #media.files.show_hidden_files:0 > > # network bandwidth > # { 14.4 Kbps (Modem) 19.2 Kbps (Modem) 28.8 Kbps (Modem) 33.6 Kbps > (Modem) 34.4 Kbps (Modem) 57.6 Kbps (Modem) 115.2 Kbps (ISDN) > 262.2 Kbps (Cable/DSL) 393.2 Kbps (Cable/DSL) 524.3 Kbps > (Cable/DSL) 1.5 Mbps (T1) 10.5 Mbps (LAN) }, default: 10 > #media.network.bandwidth:1.5 Mbps (T1) There's nothing in the config file that refers to "demux". -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on. From jongleur at liripipe.com Mon Oct 22 02:43:01 2007 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:43:01 -0700 Subject: gutsy: video problem Message-ID: <200710211943.01666.jongleur@liripipe.com> I installed gutsy last night with no big problems except that after the initial boot the logon screen came up as a totally black screen. No Problem I had burned a install disk. Unfortunately it had exactly the same problem & even the safe graphics mode failed to work. :-( So I booted into the CL version and played around a bit with xorg.conf, finally running Xorg -configure to give me a xorg.conf file that worked. Well sort of worked. It no longer was able to give me a 1280x1024 resolution which I had working in Fiesty (not to mention the dreaded XP). Nonetheless Gutsy seems to be working just with really big print etc. :-( Monitor: Princeton VL173 (17" capable of 1280X1024 @ 60hz in XP and previously in Fiesty) xorg.conf: Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 340 270 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "PGS" ModelName "VL173" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: HorizSync 31.0 - 60.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Note the print documentation for the monitor says that the HorizSync is 31 - 80 and this is what I had it set as in Fiesty, but the monitor itself seems to only claim the max of 60. I have tried various modelines in this section with no success. The driver: (commented lines removed) Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection any help greatly appreciated. John L Vifian -- Exuberance is better than taste. Gustave Flaubert From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Mon Oct 22 04:58:45 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:58:45 -0500 Subject: UUID In-Reply-To: <1747350.OVYOcEEH7H@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710191628.27879.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471B5FBA.1070304@gmx.net> <1747350.OVYOcEEH7H@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710212358.45790.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Sunday 21 October 2007 13:28:36 Derek Broughton wrote: > Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: > >>> On Friday 19 October 2007 5:28:27 pm Yogich7230 wrote: > >>>> How does one find out what the UUID of a drive partition is? Once a > >>>> backup is restored, one plays a little hell getting partitions to > >>>> mount, since the UUID is different. > >>> > >>> cat /etc/fstab > >> > >> er, no. If he's having trouble getting it to mount, then the one in > >> fstab isn't the one actually on the partition ... > >> > >> "sudo vol_id /dev/xxxx" will tell you what the UUID for partition > >> /dev/xxxx is. > > > > A tool I used in the past was "disktype". It lists information about > > partions or lists partions with their inforamtion for a whole drive. > > Amongst the partition info are the filetype and the UUID. > > Yes, there are actually many ways to get the UUID - it was just that fstab > isn't a reliable one :) > -- > derek I really appreciate everyones' help on this one... I didn't think to look in the menu.list, for one thing, and then I wasn't certain enough of the architecture to know exactly where to look. My son stumbled on the UUIDs in /dev/disk, and I wonder at the fact that I didn't find it, given the amount of time I have spent looking around, in there. :-\ lol At any rate... thank you, one and all, for helping me get to the bottom of this minor mystery. -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From donald_allwright at yahoo.com Mon Oct 22 08:30:06 2007 From: donald_allwright at yahoo.com (Donald Allwright) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Can't Install 7.10 (Gutsy) Message-ID: <534003.54298.qm@web51310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >Alright, so I am a fairly proficient Linux user, but I get this working. >I have tried these CD's: >Kubuntu Live CD 7.10 >Kubuntu Alternative CD 7.10 >Ubuntu Live CD 7.10 >and they all seem to freeze during boot. I have 7.04 installed, and I >tried to upgrade, but it still froze on boot after a restart. I think >that there is a bug in the kernel. It actually freezes in two places. I >removed quiet and splash from the options and it said something about >DMA so I added "dma=off' to the boot options. Then it seems to get stuck >at an NTFS one. It says something like "Checking /dev/hda1" and it never >says anything more. (One time, I was able to boot, but thats it). Also, >I upgraded from the Alternative CD because Adapt doesn't want to do a >distro upgrade or what not. I had a similar issue when trying to install on a disk that had a (non-system) NTFS partition on it - it appeared to be doing some sort of a disk check on the NTFS partition (I think top showed a process called ntfsresize or something). I seem to remember that this was while starting the partitioner though, not at boot time. however the solution I found may still be useful. As it was a large disk, I decided not to wait for this to complete, and instead from a command line typed: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda where /dev/sda was the disk. and let this run for a few seconds, thus deliberately trashing the NTFS partition (and everything else on the disk!). The effect was that it didn't detect it as an NTFS partition, didn't attempt to run the disk check and I was able to start afresh, as if it were a blank disk. I still think this is a design flaw in how the installer deals with NTFS partitions though. Of course this won't be much good if you have any data on the NTFS partition that you don't want to lose, but then you wouldn't do this anyway without backing up your data, would you?! Donald -- 43 - slightly more than the answer to life, the universe and everything. http://donaldallwright.blogspot.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. 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How can I correct > this? > > Many thanks > > -- > Osman Kemal Kadiroglu > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- ____________ Mehmet Dilmac ___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 12:33:06 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:33:06 +0200 Subject: gutsy: video problem In-Reply-To: <200710211943.01666.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200710211943.01666.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: I to am having video problems on upgrade. It goes to the 1680x1050 but then the auto button of the monitor sets the screen up all wrong so that there is a big black line on 2 sides. This worked find in Fiesty. Douglas On 10/22/07, John L Vifian wrote: > > I installed gutsy last night with no big problems except that after the > initial boot the logon screen came up as a totally black screen. > > No Problem I had burned a install disk. Unfortunately it had exactly the > same > problem & even the safe graphics mode failed to work. :-( > > So I booted into the CL version and played around a bit with xorg.conf, > finally running Xorg -configure to give me a xorg.conf file that worked. > > Well sort of worked. It no longer was able to give me a 1280x1024 > resolution > which I had working in Fiesty (not to mention the dreaded XP). Nonetheless > Gutsy seems to be working just with really big print etc. :-( > > Monitor: Princeton VL173 (17" capable of 1280X1024 @ 60hz in XP and > previously > in Fiesty) > > xorg.conf: > > Section "Monitor" > #DisplaySize 340 270 # mm > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "PGS" > ModelName "VL173" > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: > HorizSync 31.0 - 60.0 > VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Note the print documentation for the monitor says that the HorizSync is 31 > - > 80 and this is what I had it set as in Fiesty, but the monitor itself > seems > to only claim the max of 60. > > I have tried various modelines in this section with no success. > > The driver: (commented lines removed) > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "ati" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > any help greatly appreciated. > > John L Vifian > -- > Exuberance is better than taste. > Gustave Flaubert > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll help with a torrent. > > thanks, > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From paulatgm at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 13:08:15 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0400 Subject: Keyboard Died In-Reply-To: <471BDE29.5050502@bmts.com> References: <471BDE29.5050502@bmts.com> Message-ID: <471CA0BF.10505@gmail.com> Scott said the following on 10/21/2007 07:18 PM: > Hi, > > my keyboard stopped working all of a sudden. I would like to file a > bug report for this, but I don't have a clue witch package could have > caused the problem. Also, I don't have much information about the take a look at the files in /var/log around the time of your problem. maybe one will have some clue. > problem because there was no error reports and the computer was working > fine, I was able to use the mouse as normal, except for the keyboard. > > I was forced to reboot the computer and after the reboot everything > went back to normal, no problems with the keyboard. From jferrando at netplc.com Mon Oct 22 13:03:57 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:03:57 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471C9FBD.1090807@netplc.com> I have upgraded with almost-success in 3 systems. Not without some problems, but finally I have done it. I have followed the instructions in the web page_ http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php Section upgrading from 7.04 The only problem that I still have is that the firebird (sql server) 1.5 superserver is not starting anymore. root at espada:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/firebird1.5-super restart * Firebird 1.5 server manager not running. * Not starting Firebird 1.5 server manager * Use `dpkg-reconfigure firebird1.5-super' to enable. I have tried also installing firebird 2.0, and the same result. It does not start. `dpkg-reconfigure firebird1.5-super' did not correct the problem. Anyone of you using firebird sql server? Jordi. 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Nils From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 13:58:28 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:58:28 +0200 Subject: Java Speed Test for browser In-Reply-To: <200710211937.46052.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> <471BC545.7030408@tiscali.co.uk> <200710211937.46052.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: But what about taking all ads out with adblock plus in firefox? Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 22 13:29:52 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:29:52 -0300 Subject: Java Speed Test for browser References: <200710211712.50608.cms0009@gmail.com> <471BC545.7030408@tiscali.co.uk> <200710211937.46052.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <18955737.14T1YodFPp@cedar.serverforest.com> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007, Wulfy wrote: >> 2) I did the test with Konqueror and Firefox >> >> Konqueror 3.5.8 = around 3000 >> >> Firefox 2.0.0.6 = around 1300 > > Me too, but with older versions. Konqueror 3.5.6 and Firefox 2.0.0.3 > here, and times of around 3800 and 2200, respectively. > > Interesting, but I find this isn't something that would interest me in > switching to Firefox as my default browser. I just don't like it that > much. Yes. I do some pretty heavy javascripting, and I _can_ tell Konqueror is slower, but it generally isn't enough slower to hamper a user interface. It's like the old joke about two guys being chased by a bear, and one stops to put on his running shoes. The other says "why are you wasting time - you can't outrun a bear", and the first says "I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!". In any user interface, you generally don't have to run really fast, just fast enough not to hamper the user. -- derek From macariov at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 17:16:52 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:16:52 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <200710221537.54990.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> <200710221537.54990.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1193073412.10856.18.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 15:37 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > Paul wrote: > > Has anyone tested the update from 7.04 to 7.10 successfully? > > Yes. Meanwhile on 2 machines without problems. > > > Nils > I upgrade my main desktop back in beta. now that the final 7.10 is out, the only problem, if you can call it that, is that after some updates with adept, I get the new version notice. i let that run and proceeds just fine, but after the initial download, tells me I am up to date, there is nothing to update. No a big deal, nothing broke, just a nuisance. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 18:41:12 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (Lantiero Zenesi) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:41:12 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <1193073412.10856.18.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> <200710221537.54990.kassube@gmx.net> <1193073412.10856.18.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: <1193078472.5668.9.camel@ikkyu2> Il giorno lun, 22/10/2007 alle 13.16 -0400, Macario Valle ha scritto: > I upgrade my main desktop back in beta. now that the final 7.10 is out, > the only problem, if you can call it that, is that after some updates > with adept, I get the new version notice. i let that run and proceeds > just fine, but after the initial download, tells me I am up to date, > there is nothing to update. No a big deal, nothing broke, just a > nuisance. Yep, I got that too. At first I thought I had installed Fiesty. ;-) But you're right, just a nuisance and that's why it is annoying. And it did not happen on my old gusty install, but on a brand new one from a downloaded DVD. -- lanzen From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Mon Oct 22 19:49:19 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:49:19 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193082559.20885.24.camel@tregonsee> On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 14:56 +0200, Paul wrote: > Has anyone tested the update from 7.04 to 7.10 successfully? > Sure. I have done it on 3 machines here. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 You like to form new friendships and make new acquaintances. From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 19:44:51 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:44:51 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 Released In-Reply-To: <1193082559.20885.24.camel@tregonsee> References: <20071018115933.GD17824@muse.19inch.net> <4717505A.9050604@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710220556u42d3394es5f46c5eb8d8d3e62@mail.gmail.com> <1193082559.20885.24.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: On 10/22/07, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 14:56 +0200, Paul wrote: > > Has anyone tested the update from 7.04 to 7.10 successfully? > > > Sure. I have done it on 3 machines here. > > Regards, > > -- > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > You like to form new friendships and make new acquaintances. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Installed - Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy AMD64 from Live DVD. System type - New Acer Notebook ACER Aspire AS7520-402G320 Gemstone design, AMD Turion™ 64 2x TL58 1.9Ghz1MB L2 cache (2x512KB), chipset NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) 7000M , DDR II 2GB (2x1GB), 17" WXGA+ high-brightness (200 nit) Acer CrystalBrite™ TFT LCD, 1440 x 900 pixel, 2 x 160GB 5.4K SATA, DVD+RW SuperMulti (tray), no FDD, Camera 0.3MPOrbicam, 4 x USB 2.0 ports; 5-in-1 card reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD); 1 x ExpressCard™ /54 slot; 1 x IEEE 1394 port, 1 x Consumer infrared (CIR) port, 1x external display (VGA) port; S-video/TV-out (NTSC/PAL) port, Dolby(R)-certified surround sound system with two built-in stereo speakers, Headphones/ speaker /line-out port; Microphone /line-in jack; (RJ-11) port; DC-in jack for AC adapter, Gigabit Ethernet, 56K, 802.11a/b, 6-cell LiIon - 2.0-hour battery life 3 problems 1- does not recognize wireless (atheros-ar5007eg) 2- NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) 7000M not recognized 3- Acer Orbi-cam still not working ( no M560X driver available ) I should have problems 1 and 2 fixed tonight when I get home from work. 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And it > did not happen on my old gusty install, but on a brand new one from a > downloaded DVD. --> So I'm not the only one. Mine was a brand-new install too, after formatting my root partition, installing ubuntu and then the kubuntu-desktop on top of that. I just canceled it and now hope it doesn't show up again. It's a rather silly bug. Wafa. -- "So be it." --Kurt Vonnegut From jeff_yowell at cox.net Mon Oct 22 20:10:51 2007 From: jeff_yowell at cox.net (Jeff Yowell) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:10:51 -0500 Subject: Gutsy Wireless Woes on a PowerBook Message-ID: <5E5DD7EA-DEA2-44D8-B3A5-8D7CDD7559BE@cox.net> I have a G4 aluminum PowerBook with an Atheros wireless cardbus setup (Netgear card). Ever since Dapper, I have had almost non-existent and at best flaky wireless. I just installed Gutsy hoping that this time around, the drivers would have been improved on. No such luck. I have figured out that sometimes, if I shove the card in just after login, the card will be picked up and I connect wirelessly. But that's hit and miss. Works maybe 30% of the time. I have installed ndiswrapper and Madwifi to no avail. Anyone out there have similar hardwire that could help? Thanks From sveri-list at gmx.de Mon Oct 22 20:39:22 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:39:22 +0200 Subject: keyboard not working Message-ID: <200710222239.22834.sveri-list@gmx.de> Hi there, my mothers computer is somehow not working. Especially her Keyboard, the problem is, i cant access it, and i only can support her via telephone. The problem seems to appear only under kde if she is logged in. The keyboard works if in the boot screen and if she boots into recovery mode, but nowhere else. I already tried to move kacces.desktop from /usr/share/services to /root what, an idea google gave me, but that didnt help. Anybody got an Idea? Greetings Sven Richter From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 21:04:16 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:04:16 +0100 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> References: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: Can you press ctrl+alt+f1 to enter the console? Might be a problem with X. Regards, Marty. On 10/22/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm > trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). > > If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the > Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a black > screen. > > If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter > which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. > > Anybody got any ideas? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bach.michael at gmx.net Mon Oct 22 21:05:34 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:05:34 +0200 Subject: Gutsy Wireless Woes on a PowerBook In-Reply-To: <5E5DD7EA-DEA2-44D8-B3A5-8D7CDD7559BE@cox.net> References: <5E5DD7EA-DEA2-44D8-B3A5-8D7CDD7559BE@cox.net> Message-ID: <471D109E.101@gmx.net> Jeff Yowell wrote: > I have a G4 aluminum PowerBook with an Atheros wireless cardbus setup > (Netgear card). Ever since Dapper, I have had almost non-existent > and at best flaky wireless. > I just installed Gutsy hoping that this time around, the drivers > would have been improved on. No such luck. > > I have figured out that sometimes, if I shove the card in just after > login, the card will be picked up and I connect wirelessly. But > that's hit and miss. Works maybe 30% of the time. > > I have installed ndiswrapper and Madwifi to no avail. > > Anyone out there have similar hardwire that could help? > For the atheros chipsets, they fall into the category of restricted drivers. In "Control Center"->"System Administration"->"Restricted Drivers" you should at least see the ahteros hardware layer checked ("in use"). For configuration, it seems the ubuntu team is favoring the network-manager tool. this framework has, under kubuntu 7.10, two kde frontends with different names but essentially same binaries (so I understand): old: knetworkmanager new: network-manager-kde (this is probably installed on your system). Now, the hook with the network-manager on ubuntu is, that they require the /etc/network/interfaces NOT(!) to configure any network-interface. Apart from the loopback, this file has no content: auto lo iface lo inet loopback This should be (with the exception of comments) the entire content of /etc/network/interfaces. So comment out any other network configuration. After this, restart the dbus daemon by /etc/init.d/dbus restart. If it hasn't happened automatically, start the kde-app, "Internet"->"KNetworkManager" I have found the bits on configuration on a blog [1] (unfortunately in German), from my experience with 7.10 on a laptop, I can confirm the above procedure to be working. References in [1] point the network-manger FAQs [2]. [1] http://mylinux.suzansworld.com/?p=175 [2] http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ Mike From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 21:11:24 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:11:24 -0500 Subject: Screen Power Saving disabling itself Message-ID: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> Much as the subject says the Power Saving mode for my monitor keeps turning itself off randomly. I haven't been able to pin it down to any one event, and I'm not sure where this setting resides on the computer otherwise I'd just make a cron job to check / set it every 15 minutes or something. Any help would be appreciated. Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Oct 22 21:41:19 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:41:19 -0400 Subject: Screen Power Saving disabling itself In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710221741.19662.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 22 October 2007, Greg Booth wrote: > Much as the subject says the Power Saving mode for my monitor keeps > turning itself off randomly. I haven't been able to pin it down to any > one event, and I'm not sure where this setting resides on the computer > otherwise I'd just make a cron job to check / set it every 15 minutes > or something. I believe there are some programs (mostly multimedia ) that will turn off the monitor PS mode. Yes, it is irritating and I haven't found which one does it either. And I have a cronjob that does an "xset +dpms" but that doesn't always solve the problem either. I usually go to settings >>> peripherals >>> monitor & Display >>> power saving and toggle/apply the power saving box. If it is already set, turn it off/apply then turn it on/apply From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:04:28 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:04:28 -0500 Subject: Screen Power Saving disabling itself In-Reply-To: <200710221741.19662.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> <200710221741.19662.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710221504l352d38bfj26c96fa5dbc40b48@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/07, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2007, Greg Booth wrote: > > Much as the subject says the Power Saving mode for my monitor keeps > > turning itself off randomly. I haven't been able to pin it down to any > > one event, and I'm not sure where this setting resides on the computer > > otherwise I'd just make a cron job to check / set it every 15 minutes > > or something. > > I believe there are some programs (mostly multimedia ) that will turn off the > monitor PS mode. Yes, it is irritating and I haven't found which one does it > either. > > And I have a cronjob that does an "xset +dpms" but that doesn't always solve > the problem either. > > I usually go to settings >>> peripherals >>> monitor & Display >>> > power saving and toggle/apply the power saving box. > > If it is already set, turn it off/apply then turn it on/apply > That's EXACTLY what I have to do. Usually though if it isn't turning itself off the check box is unchecked. Just wish I could figure out where the setting file for that check box is. Thanks for the tip on the xset option, I'll cron that tonight. Greg -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Oct 22 22:13:21 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:13:21 -0400 Subject: Screen Power Saving disabling itself In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710221504l352d38bfj26c96fa5dbc40b48@mail.gmail.com> References: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> <200710221741.19662.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <720b310e0710221504l352d38bfj26c96fa5dbc40b48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710221813.21523.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday 22 October 2007, Greg Booth wrote: > That's EXACTLY what I have to do. Usually though if it isn't turning > itself off the check box is unchecked. Just wish I could figure out > where the setting file for that check box is. > > Thanks for the tip on the xset option, I'll cron that tonight. Look at ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc:dpmsEnabled=on and: displayconfigrc:dpmsSeconds=1200 From stew.schneider at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:25:35 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:25:35 -0400 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: References: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471D235F.60008@gmail.com> That was a really good suggestion. I hadn't tried. As it turns out, no, I can't. I get the Kubuntu screen with the progress bar, then a wristwatch cursor icon, then an arrow cursor icon. I then see a square of white briefly, about 1/2" by 1/2", then black screen. At that point, ctr-alt-F1 (or Fanything else) does nothing. Insert a live CD, choose "Boot from HD" and it goes slick as chocolate... stew Martin Walshe wrote: > Can you press ctrl+alt+f1 to enter the console? Might be a problem with X. > > Regards, > Marty. > > On 10/22/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > >> I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm >> trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). >> >> If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the >> Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a black >> screen. >> >> If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter >> which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. >> >> Anybody got any ideas? >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:33:37 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:33:37 -0500 Subject: Screen Power Saving disabling itself In-Reply-To: <200710221813.21523.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <720b310e0710221411t69a4f5edi21324b67e1ef1cc0@mail.gmail.com> <200710221741.19662.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <720b310e0710221504l352d38bfj26c96fa5dbc40b48@mail.gmail.com> <200710221813.21523.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0710221533y5da30458y9edec927d7666aa2@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/07, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2007, Greg Booth wrote: > > That's EXACTLY what I have to do. Usually though if it isn't turning > > itself off the check box is unchecked. Just wish I could figure out > > where the setting file for that check box is. > > > > Thanks for the tip on the xset option, I'll cron that tonight. > > > Look at ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc:dpmsEnabled=on > > and: > > displayconfigrc:dpmsSeconds=1200 > BINGO ! Thanks a ton. -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:52:10 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:52:10 +0100 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471D235F.60008@gmail.com> References: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> <471D235F.60008@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm thats a bit of a strange one, Anytime i have ever seen it happen can usually use CTRL+ALT+F7 to get into the X session or CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to command line and do it that way. Has it only suddenly started to happen and was anything changed with the log on screen just before it began? On 10/22/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > That was a really good suggestion. I hadn't tried. As it turns out, no, > I can't. I get the Kubuntu screen with the progress bar, then a > wristwatch cursor icon, then an arrow cursor icon. I then see a square > of white briefly, about 1/2" by 1/2", then black screen. At that point, > ctr-alt-F1 (or Fanything else) does nothing. > > Insert a live CD, choose "Boot from HD" and it goes slick as chocolate... > > stew > > Martin Walshe wrote: > > Can you press ctrl+alt+f1 to enter the console? Might be a problem with > X. > > > > Regards, > > Marty. > > > > On 10/22/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > > >> I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm > >> trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). > >> > >> If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the > >> Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a black > >> screen. > >> > >> If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter > >> which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. > >> > >> Anybody got any ideas? > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 01:04:10 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <913256.26680.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Stew Schneider wrote: > I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm > trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). > > If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the > Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a > black screen. > > If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter > which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. > > Anybody got any ideas? Have you compared xorg configurations between the LiveCD and the install? This could give you a hint. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 01:38:46 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:38:46 -0400 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <913256.26680.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <913256.26680.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <471D50A6.7030609@gmail.com> Earl Violet wrote: > Have you compared xorg configurations between the LiveCD and the > install? This could give you a hint. > I believe I did early on. This has been a problem since I've had this system. It SEEMS to me that the xorg.conf I'm running is the one that I took from the Feisty LiveCD, though I could easily be wrong. I'll try that again tomorrow. My understanding was that X wasn't running at this stage in the boot process. Do I have that wrong? stew From ieread at peoplescom.net Tue Oct 23 02:08:57 2007 From: ieread at peoplescom.net (Irvine N5UNB) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:08:57 -0500 Subject: Smooth upgrade from Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 Message-ID: <471D57B9.1000006@peoplescom.net> > > On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 14:56 +0200, Paul wrote: > >> > Has anyone tested the update from 7.04 to 7.10 successfully? >> > >> The 7.10 upgrade process worked perfectly on my Dell Inspiron 1200 laptop. I did make sure, as suggested, that 7.04 was uptodate and that took a while. This is the smoothest version upgrade I have ever used. Thanks to all who made it possible. Cheers, 73 , Irvine N5UNB. From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Tue Oct 23 03:01:38 2007 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:01:38 +1000 Subject: Bad (K)ubuntu install bug (reported) Message-ID: <471D6412.5040607@ozemail.com.au> Hi (K)ubuntu Team This is an install bug, that causes install from the Live CD to HANG at 82% for ages, and then #'ed all the entries in sources.list, which one must edit after install (Which many would have given up on in the Southern hemisphere at least, as it was glacial after 82%). Now Kubuntu 7.10 seems to pin one to the closest mirror, regardless what is in sources.list, and regardless if it is slo-o-o-w-w-w---- which is a real nuisance, as the Australian (K)ubuntu mirrors are quite slow. Guess I could change my location in KDE, but would the pin believe me, and this is definitely not convenient and It is definitely not at all intuitive on install from the live cd! This is the first time I have struck this particular lack of free choice in Kubuntu, though I guess it is designed to spread the load on the mirrors? However during the day here most of the northern hemisphere is asleep, and unloaded, and vice versa. So tell me, where is the logic of this pinning? Can it be disabled? I sure hope so, as it can be a real nuisance, and lead to the install problems described. Surely it could be set up to seek only the fastest mirrors wherever to spread the load. This would surely work better, and would be more logical. l report the bug as I believe it to be most serious and offputting to potential users of (K)ubuntu Best El Zorro From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Tue Oct 23 06:57:31 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent Asorne) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:57:31 +0200 Subject: Rosegarden In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200708312218.41358.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <720b310e0709121314s1013fdf4jb6a517ceff27614b@mail.gmail.com> <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710230857.32038.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> On Thursday 13 September 2007 20:13:12 Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 9/12/07, Greg Booth wrote: > > Then I may have a misconception. I thought ac97 codec was normally > > used by the generic onboard sound systems. Anyone know if that's > > correct or not ? Have you checked the bios for any configuration > > options of an onboard audio device ? > > my understanding is that ac97 is a standard for interfacing to a sound > chip. I have often seen it used for onboard sound, but I don't think > there is any reason if couldn't be used on a PCI sound card, or > anything else. > > Michael Luckily, I've found out how to make it work! If I'd have taken the time to read M.McIntyre's tutorial about rosegarden, I'd have found out earlier... So this is how I got it working: Start Jack server start qsynth get qsynth load some soundfont start rosegarden click on the icon "Manage MIDI devices" in "Play devices": click New. Selecte New Device click Import Select "CreativeSBLive!8MB.rgd" from the list click open enable all "Import" options" & select "Overwrite banks" click "OK" Select "Creative SBLive! 8MB Soundfont" -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Tue Oct 23 07:01:40 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent Asorne) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:01:40 +0200 Subject: Rosegarden In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200708312218.41358.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <720b310e0709121314s1013fdf4jb6a517ceff27614b@mail.gmail.com> <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710230901.41199.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Sorry for sending an incomplete mail... here comes the follow up: Select "Creative SBLive! 8MB Soundfont" -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Tue Oct 23 07:09:20 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent Asorne) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:09:20 +0200 Subject: Rosegarden In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200708312218.41358.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <720b310e0709121314s1013fdf4jb6a517ceff27614b@mail.gmail.com> <9c2aabaf0709131113r516d36aated036b6f0716c13d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710230909.20419.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> ... Sorry again! Select "Creative SBLive! 8MB Soundfont" in drop down menu beneath this, select "...Synth input port (qsynth:0) (write) Close the "Manage Midi Devices"-window Do following for all MIDI tracks: Back in main window, under "Track Parameters"/"Playback Parameters"/Device select "Creative SBLive! 8MB Soundfont" under "Instrument Parameters": enable "Program"-checkbox and select desired instrument. I left "Bank"-checkbox disabled. The selected instrument (e.g.Piano 2) is now connected to the channel selected in "Channel out" (e.g. Channel out = 1) for all tracks for which you select "Instrument #1 (Piano 2). Now just lay back and relax while listening to the MIDI file! Laurent Asorne -- The box said 'Requires Windows XP or better'. So I installed LINUX From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Tue Oct 23 08:34:02 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:34:02 +0200 Subject: Gutsy: closing laptop lid makes screen blink Message-ID: <200710231034.02656.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Hi everybody, I installed Kubuntu Gutsy on my laptop, and everything has worked flawlessly except one thing: whenever I press the lid button, the screen doesn't blank immediately; instead, it stays on a few seconds and then starts blinking on and off at random times (but never more than 20-30 seconds aparts), and it looks as if X was being restarted. Sometimes, the screensaver also kicks in, even when I switch it off from the control panel. I have observed the problem even when booting from the live CD before installation. Removing the KDE screensavers does not solve the problem, nor restarting X. I have to reboot the computer to get it working normally. Is it possible that the problem is in the kernel's power management modules? Needless to say, the computer is unusable under these conditions, so I've been forced to go back to Feisty for the moment. My system is a HP 6120 laptop with a 2.0 GHz Pentium-M, 512 MB RAM, running an unmodified Kubuntu Gutsy. I'd really like to solve this, because Gutsy works faster and better on my computer than Feisty, but at the moment it's simply not an option. Any ideas? Thank you in advance, - Urtzi - -- You may get an opportunity for advancement today. Watch it! ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y m�viles desde 1 c�ntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From lopeztor at unizar.es Tue Oct 23 10:14:19 2007 From: lopeztor at unizar.es (Ana Lopez) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:14:19 +0200 Subject: Installing Kubuntu 7.10 Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> Hello everyone, I´m new in this list and also in working with Kubuntu (and even Linux). I have got a laptop with no operative system installed, and I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.10. I have created a boot CD and I can work in live mode, but, when I begin to install the system, suddenly the computer asks me to take out the CD and afterwards the laptop just turns off. I tried with version 7.10 because the graphic interface is supposed not to be compatible with version 7.04 (and I have checked it). I would like to know if it is possible working in live mode and at the same time not being able to installing the system or if the problem is not related to Kubuntu (something is wrong inside the computer) Thank you very much, ANA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ana Mª López Torres Dpto. de Ingeniería Electrónica y Comunicaciones Escuela Universitaria Politécnica de Teruel Ciudad Escolar s/n Teruel 44003 Tel.: 978 618175 Fax: 978 618104 lopeztor at unizar.es -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bach.michael at gmx.net Tue Oct 23 11:13:50 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:13:50 +0200 Subject: Installing Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> Message-ID: <471DD76E.3030703@gmx.net> Ana Lopez wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I´m new in this list and also in working with Kubuntu (and even Linux). I > have got a laptop with no operative system installed, and I wanted to > install Kubuntu 7.10. I have created a boot CD and I can work in live mode, > but, when I begin to install the system, suddenly the computer asks me to > take out the CD and afterwards the laptop just turns off. > I tried with version 7.10 because the graphic interface is supposed not to > be compatible with version 7.04 (and I have checked it). > I would like to know if it is possible working in live mode and at the same > time not being able to installing the system or if the problem is not > related to Kubuntu (something is wrong inside the computer) > Hello, installing (k)ubuntu from the alternative installation cd might be an option. Especially on computers of some certain age, the installtion is much smoother than from a live system. From an alternative install, the final system will be exactly as if it was installed from a live cd. The quality of hardware detection should be the same as well. However, the actual installer runs in text mode and hence requires less resources. The installation steps (language, partition, computername, username...) are the same. Usually, an installation session finishes with ejecting the cd and rebooting the computer. What happens when you switch on your computer again? Does it boot without the CD? Can you provide some details of your laptop (model, make)? Mike From paulvarjak at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 11:24:58 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:24:58 +0200 Subject: OFFTOPIC STARWARS. Check this and enjoy... telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl Message-ID: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl From lopeztor at unizar.es Tue Oct 23 11:27:52 2007 From: lopeztor at unizar.es (Ana Lopez) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:27:52 +0200 Subject: Installing Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <471DD76E.3030703@gmx.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023132125.022fc2f8@posta.unizar.es> Hello Mike, Thank you for your help. When I switch on the computer, asks me for a boot system again, nothing has been installed. The mark of my computer is Beep Iridium F12 T7250 (I think that it is only known in Spain). The processor is Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2 x 2.00 GHz. The graphic Controller (I was warned of possible compatibility problems) Intel GMA x3100 I'm going to try with the alternative installation CD. ANA At 13:13 23/10/2007 +0200, you wrote: >Ana Lopez wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I´m new in this list and also in working with Kubuntu (and even Linux). I > > have got a laptop with no operative system installed, and I wanted to > > install Kubuntu 7.10. I have created a boot CD and I can work in live > mode, > > but, when I begin to install the system, suddenly the computer asks me to > > take out the CD and afterwards the laptop just turns off. > > I tried with version 7.10 because the graphic interface is supposed not to > > be compatible with version 7.04 (and I have checked it). > > I would like to know if it is possible working in live mode and at the > same > > time not being able to installing the system or if the problem is not > > related to Kubuntu (something is wrong inside the computer) > > > >Hello, >installing (k)ubuntu from the alternative installation cd might be an >option. Especially on computers of some certain age, the installtion is >much smoother than from a live system. From an alternative install, the >final system will be exactly as if it was installed from a live cd. The >quality of hardware detection should be the same as well. However, the >actual installer runs in text mode and hence requires less resources. >The installation steps (language, partition, computername, username...) >are the same. > >Usually, an installation session finishes with ejecting the cd and >rebooting the computer. What happens when you switch on your computer >again? Does it boot without the CD? > >Can you provide some details of your laptop (model, make)? > >Mike > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ana Mª López Torres Dpto. de Ingeniería Electrónica y Comunicaciones Escuela Universitaria Politécnica de Teruel Ciudad Escolar s/n Teruel 44003 Tel.: 978 618175 Fax: 978 618104 lopeztor at unizar.es -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulvarjak at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 11:29:12 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:29:12 +0200 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> References: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710230429o4b471cx1307ef04135ea07d@mail.gmail.com> I remember a question like this one not long ago... maybe the list archives can help you because it was finally solved. Or maybe the person who had the problem is listening... are you? Bye! Paul. On 10/22/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm > trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). > > If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the > Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a black screen. > > If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter > which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. > > Anybody got any ideas? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From progressivepenguin at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 12:10:08 2007 From: progressivepenguin at gmail.com (Steve T) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:10:08 -0500 Subject: OFFTOPIC STARWARS. Check this and enjoy... telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7156d5f20710230510o2555e50ap1a687c0f852e4431@mail.gmail.com> It is amazing how everything old becomes new again. I remember watching this years ago. Still very cool. On 10/23/07, Paul wrote: > > telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulatgm at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 12:16:31 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:16:31 -0400 Subject: Gutsy: closing laptop lid makes screen blink In-Reply-To: <200710231034.02656.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> References: <200710231034.02656.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <471DE61F.6070108@gmail.com> Galvanick Lucipher said the following on 10/23/2007 04:34 AM: > except one thing: whenever I press the lid button, the screen doesn't blank > immediately; instead, it stays on a few seconds and then starts blinking on > and off at random times (but never more than 20-30 seconds aparts), and it > looks as if X was being restarted. Sometimes, the screensaver also kicks in, > even when I switch it off from the control panel. See if you can find any messages at the time after the lid button is closed in /var/log/. For example, when you activate the lid button in /var/log/messages, you'll get a message like: Oct 21 09:57:39 localhost kernel: [ 900.144000] input: Lid Switch as /class/input/input7 Now, start reading the lines after that for odd messages or errors. If any appear, you can put the exact message in a google search and a launchpad bug search to see if the problem has been solved by someone. HTH From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 12:33:12 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:33:12 +0100 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471D50A6.7030609@gmail.com> References: <913256.26680.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <471D50A6.7030609@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well x would have to be called to display the nice graphical log on screen. Looks to be a problem with either X or KDE. Like Stew said best to compare the config files and see if that sheds any light on it. On 10/23/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > Earl Violet wrote: > > Have you compared xorg configurations between the LiveCD and the > > install? This could give you a hint. > > > I believe I did early on. This has been a problem since I've had this > system. It SEEMS to me that the xorg.conf I'm running is the one that I > took from the Feisty LiveCD, though I could easily be wrong. I'll try > that again tomorrow. > > My understanding was that X wasn't running at this stage in the boot > process. Do I have that wrong? > > stew > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bach.michael at gmx.net Tue Oct 23 13:01:32 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:01:32 +0200 Subject: Installing Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023132125.022fc2f8@posta.unizar.es> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> <5.1.1.6.0.20071023120346.022f0b48@posta.unizar.es> <5.1.1.6.0.20071023132125.022fc2f8@posta.unizar.es> Message-ID: <471DF0AC.4000104@gmx.net> Ana Lopez wrote: > Hello Mike, > > Thank you for your help. When I switch on the computer, asks me for a boot > system again, nothing has been installed. > > The mark of my computer is Beep Iridium F12 T7250 (I think that it is only > known in Spain). > The processor is Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2 x 2.00 GHz. > The graphic Controller (I was warned of possible compatibility problems) > Intel GMA x3100 > Hello Ana, this sounds like a fairly new computer. I had a quick look on google and it seems there is support for the graphics card. Is it perhaps possible that the installation cd is corrupted? I think, when starting from the live cd and even before booting, a menu gives you various options, one of them which lets you check the integrity of the cd. > I'm going to try with the alternative installation CD. Good luck ! Mike From jhodge_98 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 13:20:10 2007 From: jhodge_98 at yahoo.com (John Hodge) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 live CD problems - and my solution Message-ID: <638998.96978.qm@web33215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Putting a live Kubuntu 7.10 CD into a Windows pc (AMD64 dual, recent nvidia chipset and graphics), I had two problems.... 1 - the live CD got to the X windows stage, but not the complete KDE desktop. 2 - when I took the CD out and tried to reboot - it had boot loader problems, as though you'd taken a Linux install out of a dual boot, and it has grub errors - normally corrected for Windows by fixmbr. Solution - There were two other harddisks in the system, one of which had a Windows XP install which wasn't active, and another which I think had once had Linux installed onto it (probably U6.06) - but had been wiped, ntfs formatted, but yet may have had some boot loader stuff still on it. I guessed right - when I took those harddisks out, and then did fixmbr, it was fine. And not only that but that K7.10 Live CD works fine as well. The question is - Why did a Live CD muck around with boot records - or indeed any part of the compute? Thanks J ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 23 14:45:04 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:45:04 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror Message-ID: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> When I click on a web link in kontact, the konqueror icon starts bouncing erratically up and down and never opens konqueror. I have to log out and back in to get it to stop otherwise I think it starts eating up my memory and slowing the computer down. -- David M. From prlewis at letterboxes.org Tue Oct 23 14:57:55 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:57:55 +0100 Subject: OFFTOPIC STARWARS. Check this and enjoy... telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710231557.55955.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 at 12:24:58 Paul wrote: > telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl Ohmygod. That is unbelievable genius. But how much time.....? How... much... time....????? From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 15:11:25 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471D235F.60008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <382361.44437.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Earl Violet wrote: >> Have you compared xorg configurations between the LiveCD and the >> install? This could give you a hint. > I believe I did early on. This has been a problem since I've had >this system. It SEEMS to me that the xorg.conf I'm running is the one >that I took from the Feisty LiveCD, though I could easily be wrong. >I'll try that again tomorrow. >My understanding was that X wasn't running at this stage in the boot >process. Do I have that wrong? << snip>> I hadn't tried. As it turns out, no, I can't.I get the Kubuntu screen with the progress bar, then a wristwatch cursor icon, then an arrow cursor icon. I then see a square of white briefly, about 1/2" by 1/2", then black screen. At that point, ctr-alt-F1 (or Fanything else) does nothing.<> This made me think you have an X crash of some sorts. It sounds like X is trying to start then hits the wall. When I saw something like this, X wasn't configured correctly. But, for me, it brought me back to the command line. This suggests to me something wrong with loading the login manager kills the whole start-up process. If you attempt to remove KDM, I think this will kill the whole system. OK, someone, can he install GDM once he is into his machine and replace KDM with it? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Oct 23 15:27:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:27:37 -0400 Subject: Bad (K)ubuntu install bug (reported) In-Reply-To: <471D6412.5040607@ozemail.com.au> References: <471D6412.5040607@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <471E12E9.8020302@gatech.edu> Rod Lovett wrote: > > Hi (K)ubuntu Team > This is an install bug Please report bugs at bugs.launchpad.net. Matt Flaschen From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Oct 23 16:07:35 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:07:35 +0200 Subject: Benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? Message-ID: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> Are there any benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? I read something online that suggested that there weren't really any. Is it worthwhile upgrading? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From dreadgeek at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 17:09:10 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (The Dreadlocked Geekgirl) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:09:10 -0700 Subject: OFFTOPIC STARWARS. Check this and enjoy... telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl In-Reply-To: <200710231557.55955.prlewis@letterboxes.org> References: <5e33e3860710230424y53ca730amc6963754f5ea6076@mail.gmail.com> <200710231557.55955.prlewis@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <471E2AB6.20000@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peter Lewis wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 at 12:24:58 Paul wrote: >> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl > > Ohmygod. That is unbelievable genius. > > But how much time.....? How... much... time....????? > That is so brilliant! Wrong, but utterly brilliant! Cheers Aj http://dreadgeek.blogspot.com *************************************** All tribal myths are true. For a given value of true. (Terry Pratchett) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHHiqzt5MYKejOD1gRAhZBAJ942O3voxX4bsUZBCNtnpljSTUHpACgndP7 AeGQcWTL6LJMG1Kqg43Pv8g= =PH40 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 23 17:19:07 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:19:07 -0500 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror In-Reply-To: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710231219.07329.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:45:04 David McGlone wrote: > When I click on a web link in kontact, the konqueror icon starts bouncing > erratically up and down and never opens konqueror. I have to log out and > back in to get it to stop otherwise I think it starts eating up my memory > and slowing the computer down. > -- > David M. Have you tried opening konsole & pasting the command line, there, and seeing what error returns? That might give you a clue as to what is happening... -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 23 17:30:29 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:30:29 -0500 Subject: Puzzling VT resolution Message-ID: <200710231230.29981.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I have installed Gutsy on a couple different partitions on my Dell Inspiron 1100, and in both cases the installation seems to activate the frame buffer and I am looking at a not-quite-full screen installation dialog. Once the system is installed, the KDE desktop comes up on 1024x768 as it should, and my VT is down to 640x480. I have tried various kernel parameters --i.e., vga=791 (errors out); vesa=0x317 (no change); vesa=0x324 (errors out)-- vga=771 is SUPPOSED to be 800x600 but, though not erroring out, is being ignored. My hdwe is as follows: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Anyone with this same hdwe find a solution? Thanks... -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Tue Oct 23 17:37:48 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:37:48 -0500 Subject: Benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? In-Reply-To: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> References: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200710231237.48655.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 11:07:35 Nigel Ridley wrote: > Are there any benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? > > I read something online that suggested that there weren't really any. > > Is it worthwhile upgrading? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Never read that, myself, but I can tell you that Gutsy seems to be living up to its name, on my box --and that's a good thing. If you have a spare partition, give it a shot. :) (I purposely partitioned an 80gb drive so I can test a system while still maintaining my production system, & the /home/ directory data is common to both.) -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting'. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 17:40:12 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:40:12 +0200 Subject: Benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? In-Reply-To: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> References: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <1193161212.5739.16.camel@ikkyu2> Hi Nigel, > Are there any benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? > > I read something online that suggested that there weren't really any. > > Is it worthwhile upgrading? As you might guess it really depends on your needs and on your hardware. As far as I can see, and I'm new to Linux since I started just over a year ago with dapper, there are many improvements and fixes that are making life a little easier. I think this is the smoothest 'buntu I've tried so far, and I wish here to thank the people who made this real. Once again, worthwhile upgrading? I'd say yes, but if your Feisty works well and you're very happy with it, why bother? Cheers, -- lanzen From sveri-list at gmx.de Tue Oct 23 18:02:34 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:02:34 +0200 Subject: keyboard not working In-Reply-To: <200710222239.22834.sveri-list@gmx.de> References: <200710222239.22834.sveri-list@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200710232002.35048.sveri-list@gmx.de> Am Montag 22 Oktober 2007 22:39:22 schrieb Sven Richter: > Hi there, > > my mothers computer is somehow not working. > Especially her Keyboard, the problem is, i cant access > it, and i only can support her via telephone. > > The problem seems to appear only under kde if she is > logged in. > > The keyboard works if in the boot screen and > if she boots into recovery mode, but nowhere else. > > I already tried to move kacces.desktop from /usr/share/services to /root > what, an idea google gave me, but that didnt help. Ok, next time i will search for english help too :( The solution is easy, my mother activated slow keys. But, as every mother is, yesterday she told me she did nothing :D Simply rewrite SlowKeys = True to False in ~/.kde/share/config/kaccessrc Greetings Sven Richter From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Tue Oct 23 18:07:49 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:07:49 +0200 Subject: Gutsy: closing laptop lid makes screen blink In-Reply-To: <471DE61F.6070108@gmail.com> References: <200710231034.02656.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <471DE61F.6070108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710232007.49184.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 14:16:31 Paul S wrote: > See if you can find any messages at the time after the lid button is > closed in /var/log/.  For example, when you activate the lid > button in /var/log/messages, you'll get a message like: > > Oct 21 09:57:39 localhost kernel: [  900.144000] input: Lid Switch as > /class/input/input7 > > Now, start reading the lines after that for odd messages or errors.  If > any appear, you can put the exact message in a google search and a > launchpad bug search to see if the problem has been solved by someone. As I said, I went back to Feisty, but I'll try this method with the Live CD as soon as I have the time. Thank you, Paul! - Urtzi - -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From bardo88 at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 18:14:35 2007 From: bardo88 at gmail.com (Brad Opferman) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:14:35 -0400 Subject: Benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? In-Reply-To: <200710231237.48655.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> <200710231237.48655.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <471E3A0B.3040909@gmail.com> There are a few new features that may make it worth while for an upgrade. First off Gusty has full NTFS read/write support YAY :). Next off there are a bunch of new versions of software that are nice to have(Amarok). This version has also added in a new file browser named Dolphin which has been nice. The kernel was updated to I believe .22 which incorporates better laptop power consumption, so if you have a laptop it may be a good idea to upgrade. These are some of the reasons I upgraded. Brad Yogich7230 wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 11:07:35 Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> Are there any benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? >> >> I read something online that suggested that there weren't really any. >> >> Is it worthwhile upgrading? >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> OliveRoot Ministries >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ >> >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ >> > > > Never read that, myself, but I can tell you that Gutsy seems to be living up > to its name, on my box --and that's a good thing. If you have a spare > partition, give it a shot. :) (I purposely partitioned an 80gb drive so I > can test a system while still maintaining my production system, & > the /home/ directory data is common to both.) > From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 20:30:02 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:30:02 -0600 Subject: Benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? In-Reply-To: <471E3A0B.3040909@gmail.com> References: <471E1C47.7010201@rmk.co.il> <200710231237.48655.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471E3A0B.3040909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710231330q5a50f755h55f14551abc496fd@mail.gmail.com> All this is true. I've also found that it no longer supports my ATI radeon Pro 9200 card very well. For me, I wish I hadn't upgraded, but if my video worked I'd be quite happy with it. Michael On 10/23/07, Brad Opferman wrote: > There are a few new features that may make it worth while for an > upgrade. First off Gusty has full NTFS read/write support YAY :). Next > off there are a bunch of new versions of software that are nice to > have(Amarok). This version has also added in a new file browser named > Dolphin which has been nice. The kernel was updated to I believe .22 > which incorporates better laptop power consumption, so if you have a > laptop it may be a good idea to upgrade. > > These are some of the reasons I upgraded. > > Brad > > > Yogich7230 wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 11:07:35 Nigel Ridley wrote: > > > >> Are there any benefits of Gutsy over Feisty? > >> > >> I read something online that suggested that there weren't really any. > >> > >> Is it worthwhile upgrading? > >> > >> Blessings, > >> > >> Nigel > >> > >> -- > >> OliveRoot Ministries > >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ > >> > >> PrayingForIsrael.net > >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > >> > > > > > > Never read that, myself, but I can tell you that Gutsy seems to be living up > > to its name, on my box --and that's a good thing. If you have a spare > > partition, give it a shot. :) (I purposely partitioned an 80gb drive so I > > can test a system while still maintaining my production system, & > > the /home/ directory data is common to both.) > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From bach.michael at gmx.net Tue Oct 23 20:48:58 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:48:58 +0200 Subject: Puzzling VT resolution In-Reply-To: <200710231230.29981.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710231230.29981.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <471E5E3A.8000107@gmx.net> Yogich7230 wrote: > I have installed Gutsy on a couple different partitions on my Dell Inspiron > 1100, and in both cases the installation seems to activate the frame buffer > and I am looking at a not-quite-full screen installation dialog. > > Once the system is installed, the KDE desktop comes up on 1024x768 as it > should, and my VT is down to 640x480. I have tried various kernel > parameters --i.e., vga=791 (errors out); vesa=0x317 (no change); vesa=0x324 > (errors out)-- vga=771 is SUPPOSED to be 800x600 but, though not erroring > out, is being ignored. > > My hdwe is as follows: > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE > Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) > > Anyone with this same hdwe find a solution? > > Thanks... Hello, since I upgraded to 7.10, I have the same troubles getting stuff to appear on my display during boot. The grub menu works fine, then comes a blank screen and eventually I get my login screen. Hardware is a Thinkpad T23. Framebuffer (vga=791) worked fine in 6.10, video card is a Super Savage IX/C, the X driver is simply "savage" (which doesn't really really matter at that point anyway). Although a little bit annoyed by this, I haven't investigated the issue. From my slackware times I recall to have compiled the kernel with some certain options for the frame buffer. For kubuntu 7.10, I just hope that by accident something had gone wrong and will be fixed at some time in the future. (Not complaining here, still grateful to all the people who put together an OS that really rocks) Mike From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 23 22:45:01 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:45:01 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror In-Reply-To: <200710231219.07329.yogich7230@sc2000.net> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710231219.07329.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <200710231845.01429.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 1:19:07 pm Yogich7230 wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:45:04 David McGlone wrote: > > When I click on a web link in kontact, the konqueror icon starts bouncing > > erratically up and down and never opens konqueror. I have to log out and > > back in to get it to stop otherwise I think it starts eating up my memory > > and slowing the computer down. > > -- > > David M. > > Have you tried opening konsole & pasting the command line, there, and > seeing what error returns? That might give you a clue as to what is > happening... -- What do you mean? Konqueror works all around except for when I click on a link in kontact. -- David M. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 23 23:04:29 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:04:29 -0300 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710231219.07329.yogich7230@sc2000.net> Message-ID: <1283563.EVYkE1uO3U@cedar.serverforest.com> Yogich7230 wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:45:04 David McGlone wrote: >> When I click on a web link in kontact, the konqueror icon starts bouncing >> erratically up and down and never opens konqueror. This actually has _nothing_ to do with konqueror. KDE kicks this bouncing icon off whenever you launch something - and from then on, if there's any connection to the actual process you launched it's only that it's possible that this "launch feedback" can be cancelled when the process reaches a certain point. In any case, if it keeps going and you don't see anything else, it generally means the process failed. >> I have to log out and >> back in to get it to stop otherwise I think it starts eating up my memory >> and slowing the computer down. The bouncing icon wouldn't do that - but perhaps konqueror _is_ actually still running and doing something. > > Have you tried opening konsole & pasting the command line, there, and > seeing > what error returns? That might give you a clue as to what is happening... That's useful - but the same information should be available already in .xsession-errors -- derek From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Oct 23 23:58:04 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:58:04 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror In-Reply-To: <1283563.EVYkE1uO3U@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710231219.07329.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <1283563.EVYkE1uO3U@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:04:29 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Yogich7230 wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:45:04 David McGlone wrote: > >> When I click on a web link in kontact, the konqueror icon starts > >> bouncing erratically up and down and never opens konqueror. > > This actually has _nothing_ to do with konqueror. KDE kicks this bouncing > icon off whenever you launch something - and from then on, if there's any > connection to the actual process you launched it's only that it's possible > that this "launch feedback" can be cancelled when the process reaches a > certain point. In any case, if it keeps going and you don't see anything > else, it generally means the process failed. > > >> I have to log out and > >> back in to get it to stop otherwise I think it starts eating up my > >> memory and slowing the computer down. > > The bouncing icon wouldn't do that - but perhaps konqueror _is_ actually > still running and doing something. > > > Have you tried opening konsole & pasting the command line, there, and > > seeing > > what error returns? That might give you a clue as to what is > > happening... > > That's useful - but the same information should be available already > in .xsession-errors My xsession-errors file: Here's a few entries in my file: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 150 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device The above is repeated many times. Then this is the next error: kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x80e6b98 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "file_quit" Then: kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. then: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1e00044 finally: kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: undefined symbol: PKCS7_content_free I see nothing about kontact or konqueror. Also after clicking on a link in kontact, the bouncing icon never goes away, and when I check kde system guard I see many instances of this line: kfmclient 11440 0.00 0.00 0 28,428 8,884 david kfmclient [kdeinit] openURL https://list.ububntu.com/mailm This happens for any URL I try to click on. the process's in system guard never go away and the PID just keeps going up and up. -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 24 00:04:03 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:04:03 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror In-Reply-To: <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <1283563.EVYkE1uO3U@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:58:04 pm David McGlone wrote: > My xsession-errors file: Continued. After I sent the last E-Mail I cleaned the xsession-errors file and clicked on a URL in kontact and then reloaded xsession-errors and I got 2 entries of this: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 19 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x1e00044 then I got about 20 or 30 entries of this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 150 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 24 00:11:56 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:11:56 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror (fixed) In-Reply-To: <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710232011.56473.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:04:03 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:58:04 pm David McGlone wrote: > > My xsession-errors file: > > Continued. After I sent the last E-Mail I cleaned the xsession-errors file > and clicked on a URL in kontact and then reloaded xsession-errors and I got > 2 entries of this: > > X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 > Major opcode: 19 > Minor opcode: 0 > Resource id: 0x1e00044 > > then I got about 20 or 30 entries of this: > > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 150 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device I went to the default applications in the control panel and changed "open http and https URLs from kfmclient to konqueror. This works, but I wonder if it will mess with the rest of the system. Anyone? -- David M. From paul at lemmons.name Wed Oct 24 00:15:30 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:15:30 -0700 Subject: Display manager problem In-Reply-To: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> References: <471CFE4B.6010302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471E8EA2.1010609@lemmons.name> Stew Schneider wrote: > I've tried a couple of times with this problem with no luck, so I'm > trolling again...(as in fishing, not as in under the bridge). > > If I boot my Feisty box from the HD, the boot proceeds OK until the > Display Manager tries to display the login. Then nothing but a black screen. > > If, on the other hand, I boot from a LiveCD (doesn't seem to matter > which one) and choose "Boot from First HD" all is well. > > Anybody got any ideas? > Are you using the Radeon graphics drivers? I had this issue and had to boot to single user mode to correct it. I changed my xorg.conf to use the non-proprietary ati drivers. No more Google Earth but at least I boot :) From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 24 00:19:21 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:19:21 -0400 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror (fixed) In-Reply-To: <200710232011.56473.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232011.56473.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710232019.21976.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:11:56 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:04:03 pm David McGlone wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:58:04 pm David McGlone wrote: > I went to the default applications in the control panel and changed "open > http and https URLs from kfmclient to konqueror. > > This works, but I wonder if it will mess with the rest of the system. > > Anyone? Nevermind, I checked my desktop and the setting for that field is to open the application based on the contents of the URL. Thanks all for the help and directing me in the right direction. -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 24 00:33:50 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:50 -0400 Subject: Mail Server Message-ID: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch mail and send it to my laptop and other computers. Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would anyone recommend? Another thin -- David M. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Oct 24 00:43:01 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:43:01 -0400 Subject: Mail Server In-Reply-To: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 23 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a > mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out > the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask > the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch mail > and send it to my laptop and other computers. > Please define "send to" > Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would > anyone recommend? The basic pieces you need are fetchmail, and procmail, and depending on the definition of "send to" postfix. From lists at ptfd.org Wed Oct 24 00:48:24 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:48:24 -0400 Subject: cups problem (foo2zjs) hp2600n Message-ID: <200710232048.24581.lists@ptfd.org> I keep getting messages like this with cups: audit(1193185163.900:3): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="a" denied_mask="a" name="/dev/tty" pid=5307 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" I have a new gutsy install, replaceing my old feisty. Everything was working in feisty. I installed foo2zjs manually using the instructions on teh website and it was working, but suddenly no longer works with my hp2600n. It does not seem to load the drivers properly and kdeprinter crashes when attempting to build the driver db. I tried to install foo2zjs through adept seeing it is now in teh repos for gutsy but that doesnt load the drivers, it does however correct the crash in kprinter. Any ideas would be appreciated, there must be some steps I am missing to get the 2600n working correctly. Mike From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Oct 24 01:31:08 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:31:08 -0400 Subject: Mail Server In-Reply-To: <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200710232131.08684.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:43:01 pm Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a > > mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out > > the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask > > the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch > > mail and send it to my laptop and other computers. > > Please define "send to" > > > Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would > > anyone recommend? > > The basic pieces you need are fetchmail, and procmail, and depending on > the definition of "send to" postfix. My bad. I accidentally hit my touchpad with the cursor over the send button and sent the e-mail prematurely. Anyway, what I mean by "send to" is that I want the desktop to send all the mail out to the correct computer. The reason I'd like to do it this way is because I want to have a mailbox set up on this desktop as well that will be the same as the laptop and I don't know how I could accomplish this by fetching the mail, without leaving the mail on the server so. Does this sound better? Sometimes it's hard to ask a question when you really don't know exactly what your talking about. -- David M. From p4cldba at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 02:26:16 2007 From: p4cldba at gmail.com (Prasad) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:26:16 -0700 Subject: kubuntu on vmware running on host windows xp In-Reply-To: <666b99c70710171823l2d7113efx475c9ff8b90c6549@mail.gmail.com> References: <666b99c70710171210k1197b751i9f22f596956487f6@mail.gmail.com> <47167F28.6010308@netplc.com> <666b99c70710171513x570bc469l1969498905d1c5a0@mail.gmail.com> <200710171904.40808.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <666b99c70710171823l2d7113efx475c9ff8b90c6549@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <666b99c70710231926g727cd885j239a62e8337c267a@mail.gmail.com> Guys, just thought of sharing it . i had trouble with NAT configuration . so i again converted it back to bridged and then updated the nsswitch.conf file hosts: files dns and then it seems working fine so far. thanks to all. On 10/17/07, Prasad wrote: > > I changed bridged to NAT and now the vm guest os kubuntu is able to > connect to internet. > > On 10/17/07, Brendan < mailinglist at endosquid.com> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 17 October 2007, Prasad wrote: > > > > There ya go. eth0 is trying to get an IP via DHCP. > > > > > I see something like this > > > > > > auto lo > > > iface lo inet loopback > > > address 127.0.0.1 > > > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > > > auto eth0 > > > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto eth1 > > > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto eth2 > > > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto ath0 > > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > > > > > auto wlan0 > > > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > > > > > somehow the ip address dont show up. > > > > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra < jferrando at netplc.com> wrote: > > > > Can you see what you have in the file > > > > > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > > > > > > My system show something like (I use static addreses): > > > > > > > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > > auto lo > > > > iface lo inet loopback > > > > address 127.0.0.1 > > > > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > > > > > auto eth0 > > > > iface eth0 inet static > > > > address 192.168.44.150 > > > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > > > auto eth1 > > > > iface eth1 inet static > > > > address 10.0.40.249 > > > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > gateway 10.0.40.1 > > > > > > > > auto eth2 > > > > iface eth2 inet dhcp > > > > > > > > auto ath0 > > > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > > > > > > > auto wlan0 > > > > iface wlan0 inet dhcp > > > > > > > > If you do not whish to edit this file, you can also set your network > > > > configuration using "system settings", in the kubuntu menu. > > > > > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > > > > > Hi Jordi, > > > > > > > > yes I have bridged networking option enabled. and when I do ifconfig > > it > > > > shows eth0 and lo . for lo it shows inet address 127.0.0.1 but it > > doesnt > > > > show for eth0. > > > > > > > > thank. > > > > -Prasad > > > > > > > > On 10/17/07, Jordi Ferrando Fabra < jferrando at netplc.com> wrote: > > > > > Prasad escribió: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I cannot logon to interent from the guest OS kubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions! > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > -prasad > > > > > > > > > > Did you choose bridged networking during vmware's install? > > > > > Have you configured the ethernet interface in the kubuntu machine? > > > > > > > $ ifconfig > > > > > See what it displays > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > -- > > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From karlok at fastmail.fm Wed Oct 24 05:54:56 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:54:56 -0700 Subject: missing swap In-Reply-To: <436597.95355.qm@web59310.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <436597.95355.qm@web59310.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <471EDE30.60207@fastmail.fm> joseph lockhart wrote: > i rescently installed debian on a second partition > (the former window's partition), but after using it > for a while and switching back over to my kubuntu swap > disappeared. > > it is possible to manually mount the swap partition > through the terminal, but it seems that kubuntu is > running slower than it was earlier, even light windows > managers like blackbox end up freezing up (and that is > with swap mounted) > > anyone with thoughts on why? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > My guess is that the uuid of the swap partition changed when you installed debian. If so, correct the swap entry in /etc/fstab and then either reboot or use the 'swapon -a' command to make the swap available. Karl From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Oct 24 06:05:46 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:05:46 +0200 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? Message-ID: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> I just did a clean [flawless] install on my daughter's old P111 laptop. Q. How do I enable a 'tree view' in Dolphin? It's really annoying not to be able to see parent and daughter directories at one go. I don't want to have to click click click click click click all the time just to get to a 'buried' directory - arggggh! Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From jeremy at jdli.net Wed Oct 24 07:41:07 2007 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:41:07 -0400 Subject: Mail Server In-Reply-To: <200710232131.08684.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710232131.08684.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <1193211667.11822.3.camel@dell-laptop-ubuntu> On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 21:31 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:43:01 pm Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > > Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a > > > mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out > > > the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask > > > the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch > > > mail and send it to my laptop and other computers. > > > > Please define "send to" > > > > > Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would > > > anyone recommend? > > > > The basic pieces you need are fetchmail, and procmail, and depending on > > the definition of "send to" postfix. > > My bad. I accidentally hit my touchpad with the cursor over the send button > and sent the e-mail prematurely. > > Anyway, what I mean by "send to" is that I want the desktop to send all the > mail out to the correct computer. The reason I'd like to do it this way is > because I want to have a mailbox set up on this desktop as well that will be > the same as the laptop and I don't know how I could accomplish this by > fetching the mail, without leaving the mail on the server so. > > Does this sound better? Sometimes it's hard to ask a question when you really > don't know exactly what your talking about. > > -- > David M. > IMAP is usually good for the kind of thing you are talking about. Do you already use some type of mail service? Jeremy From kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 08:06:50 2007 From: kristian.kristiansen at gmail.com (Kristian Kristiansen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:06:50 +0100 Subject: Sound-issue in Gutsy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all Here is my specific problem: The built-in speakers and the headphones jack seem to be connected, that is, when I plug in my headphones the built-in speakers do not cut off. Also there is no way to mute the speakers without also muting the headphones and vice versa. Is there a workaround? With regards Kristian -- Mathematicians are like theologians: We regard existence as the prime attribute of what we study. But unlike theologians, we do not always rely upon faith alone. Lawrence C. Evans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lacsilva at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 09:58:29 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Lu=C3=ADs_A._C._Silva?=) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:58:29 +0200 Subject: Gutsy: closing laptop lid makes screen blink In-Reply-To: <200710232007.49184.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> References: <200710231034.02656.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> <471DE61F.6070108@gmail.com> <200710232007.49184.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <9e11f640710240258m53fcdd7bj231e605d9329720d@mail.gmail.com> 2007/10/23, Galvanick Lucipher : > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 14:16:31 Paul S wrote: > > See if you can find any messages at the time after the lid button is > > closed in /var/log/. For example, when you activate the lid > > button in /var/log/messages, you'll get a message like: > > > > Oct 21 09:57:39 localhost kernel: [ 900.144000] input: Lid Switch as > > /class/input/input7 > > > > Now, start reading the lines after that for odd messages or errors. If > > any appear, you can put the exact message in a google search and a > > launchpad bug search to see if the problem has been solved by someone. > > As I said, I went back to Feisty, but I'll try this method with the Live CD > as soon as I have the time. > > Thank you, Paul! > > - Urtzi - > Hi everyone, I have been having a similar problem since feisty. I have an acer aspire 1690, 2GHz, 512MB ram and my lid switch behaves like a regular button flooding my acpid. The solution I found was to remove the relevant events from the /etc/acpi/events.d folder and let guidance take care of the lid. Of course this means no suspend unless logged on. I submitted a bug to launchpad but no one seems to know how to solve this better. Luís From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 10:26:21 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:26:21 +0200 Subject: screen setting mess Message-ID: When most users of my system sign in the screen is fine but with one it is moved over about .5 inch. Where can this be set for each user? It is acting like xorg.config setting but only for one user. Thanks Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anton at wilddsl.net.au Wed Oct 24 11:01:22 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:01:22 +1000 Subject: Wireless Logitech keyboard & mouse broke after Feisty updates Message-ID: <471F2602.8040904@wilddsl.net.au> Hi, I was a bit over-confident in applying a whole bunch of updates to Feisty on a friend's AMD64 machine. The updates all downloaded and completed successfully, but then I noticed the mouse wasn't working... then shortly after, the keyboard too! (Kicking myself, I didn't back up the system partition first.) It's a Logitech wireless keyboard & mouse combo. And the system is an AMD64 dual core cpu. For now, I've plugged in an old crappy keyboard and a HP USB mouse, and these are working, but the wireless keybd & mouse are my friend's preference. Any tips to diagnose or directions to bug report ? Regards, Anton. From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Wed Oct 24 11:39:49 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:39:49 +0100 Subject: Migrating Message-ID: <20071024123949.73f258f9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Just to say .... I have just moved to another ISP for my broadband. I was a bit worried in case of problems. Today was activation day, and I was warned that it could all happen at any time from 8am to 8pm. I tried to log on this morning at 8:30, but it wasn't working. I made the changes to user name and password in my router and voilà, it worked. No problems at all. I have also made the changes to my email smtp server and everything is just fine. Just thought I would mention it to encourage any others that are considering it. Neil Winchurst From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 12:52:12 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:52:12 -0400 Subject: anyone running X1400 on gutsy with new ati driver Message-ID: <471F3FFC.1030808@gmail.com> Anyone running the new ati fglrx driver on gutsy kubuntu with an X1400 ati card, successfully. I'm trying to decide whether to install it or wait for the next release. I'm seeing reports on phoronix that gutsy users with X1400 get bad video playback and 2D slowness, as evidenced by slow scrolling in firefox when running compiz. But suspend / hibernate are claimed to be working. From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Wed Oct 24 14:11:55 2007 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:11:55 +0200 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Can anyone help with instructions to mount a external 160 Gb USB drive with a NTFS filesystem? Thought it will work out of the box now that Kubuntu Gutsy can recognize NTFS and read write automaticall out of the box. System mounts FAT32 USb drives ( 128 mb) automatically, but not my 160GB drive. thanks in advance. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Wed Oct 24 15:17:57 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:17:57 +1000 Subject: Wireless Logitech keyboard & mouse broke after Feisty updates In-Reply-To: <471F2602.8040904@wilddsl.net.au> References: <471F2602.8040904@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <471F6225.20604@wilddsl.net.au> Actually, the wireless keyboard started working again after some fiddling, probably pressing the connect buttons on the receiver and keyboard. The wireless mouse, it seems, just coincidentally stopped working because of low battery charge (0.88V instead of 1.5V). So, probably a false alarm. Anton. Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > I was a bit over-confident in applying a whole bunch of updates > to Feisty on a friend's AMD64 machine. > The updates all downloaded and completed successfully, but then I > noticed the mouse wasn't working... then shortly after, the keyboard > too! > (Kicking myself, I didn't back up the system partition first.) > > It's a Logitech wireless keyboard & mouse combo. > And the system is an AMD64 dual core cpu. > > For now, I've plugged in an old crappy keyboard and a HP USB mouse, > and these are working, but the wireless keybd & mouse are my > friend's preference. > > Any tips to diagnose or directions to bug report ? > > Regards, > > Anton. > From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 24 15:58:30 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:58:30 -0300 Subject: Mail Server References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <25395452.N4h8XFeHKp@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a >> mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out >> the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask >> the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch >> mail and send it to my laptop and other computers. >> > > Please define "send to" > >> Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would >> anyone recommend? > > > The basic pieces you need are fetchmail, and procmail, and depending on > the definition of "send to" postfix. I hadn't really considered the definition of "sendto" myself. You probably want postfix (or other mail transfer agent [MTA]), anyway, because you'll want to send mail _from_ your LAN to elsewhere, but if you'd rather have everything stored in one location, and pull rather than push the messages, then fetchmail -> (MDA | MTA) -> dovecot (or other IMAP server) is really nice. Usable MDAs (mail delivery agents) include procmail & maildrop, MTAs, I'd recommend postfix over any other options for a full-time Internet connected mail server. If it's not on all the time, I prefer masqmail. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 24 15:47:19 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:47:19 -0300 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror (fixed) References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232011.56473.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <2225260.s7APyUJcQf@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 8:04:03 pm David McGlone wrote: >> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:58:04 pm David McGlone wrote: >> > My xsession-errors file: >> >> Continued. After I sent the last E-Mail I cleaned the xsession-errors >> file and clicked on a URL in kontact and then reloaded xsession-errors >> and I got 2 entries of this: >> >> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 >> Major opcode: 19 >> Minor opcode: 0 >> Resource id: 0x1e00044 >> >> then I got about 20 or 30 entries of this: >> >> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 >> Major opcode: 150 >> Minor opcode: 3 >> Resource id: 0x0 >> Failed to open device > > I went to the default applications in the control panel and changed "open > http and https URLs from kfmclient to konqueror. > > This works, but I wonder if it will mess with the rest of the system. Nope. That seems _better_, but on my system I always just leave the "in an application based on the contents of the url" radio button selected. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 24 15:45:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:45:02 -0300 Subject: Kontact & Konqueror References: <200710231045.04424.d.mcglone@att.net> <1283563.EVYkE1uO3U@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710231958.04637.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232004.03369.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <1790959.NRBtOIIfjZ@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 7:58:04 pm David McGlone wrote: > >> My xsession-errors file: > > Continued. After I sent the last E-Mail I cleaned the xsession-errors file > and clicked on a URL in kontact and then reloaded xsession-errors and I > got 2 entries of this: > > X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 > Major opcode: 19 > Minor opcode: 0 > Resource id: 0x1e00044 Don't know what that is... > > then I got about 20 or 30 entries of this: > > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 150 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > These are just the codes in xorg.conf to enable Wacom tablet devices. You could edit xorg.conf to remove that, but then every time xorg got updated it would complain about you modifying xorg.conf. I _do_ wish the developer had just put a question in debconf to find out _if_ you had, or wanted to have support for, a wacom tablet. -- derek From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 17:15:39 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: swap lost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <303946.77185.qm@web59312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> thanks, Karl, i'll try that __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Wed Oct 24 17:18:46 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:18:46 -0700 Subject: Where's the "Cube" Message-ID: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> Where is a good reference for running COMPIZ on Gutsy? I used to run Beryl on Feisty and it seemed far more mature and functional. Now there is only a rudimentary compiz? When running compiz, instead of a "Cube" that rotates, I only get a "Wall" that rotates, even though I select "Cube" and "Rotating Cube" in the config program. There must be something I'm still missing... Regards Doug P From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:17:12 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:17:12 +0200 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> Douglas Phillipson wrote: > Where is a good reference for running COMPIZ on Gutsy? I used to run > Beryl on Feisty and it seemed far more mature and functional. Now there > is only a rudimentary compiz? When running compiz, instead of a "Cube" > that rotates, I only get a "Wall" that rotates, even though I select > "Cube" and "Rotating Cube" in the config program. > > There must be something I'm still missing... A couple of more desktops? How many working areas have you got? -- lanzen From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:25:43 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:25:43 -0500 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> Message-ID: <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> > Douglas Phillipson wrote: > > > Where is a good reference for running COMPIZ on Gutsy? I used to run > > Beryl on Feisty and it seemed far more mature and functional. Now there > > is only a rudimentary compiz? When running compiz, instead of a "Cube" > > that rotates, I only get a "Wall" that rotates, even though I select > > "Cube" and "Rotating Cube" in the config program. > > > > There must be something I'm still missing... > > A couple of more desktops? How many working areas have you got? > > -- > lanzen > Yeah, have to have what, at least 4 desktops to get the cube ? I've played around with this in KDE but it's just not very stable. It seems to crash every once in a while and make you restart X. Greg From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed Oct 24 18:35:31 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:35:31 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail Message-ID: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, Is there also something like the following in win-XP. => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to resize all the pitures. This way you're able to send morepictures at once. Thx for the info. Karl, From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:48:52 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:48:52 +0200 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> > Yeah, have to have what, at least 4 desktops to get the cube ? I've > played around with this in KDE but it's just not very stable. It seems > to crash every once in a while and make you restart X. Right, you got to have four for the cube, but three or five and upwards will do all the same. With two you get a nice flip-flop thingy anyway. I've given up compiz in kde: it's just not compatible enough. I have the impression that beryl was doing slightly better. -- lanzen From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:53:38 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:53:38 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1193252018.5652.25.camel@ikkyu2> > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. Maybe from you image-viewing program. I don't know, but there's so much one can do with linux that there is certainly a way. -- lanzen From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:53:57 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:53:57 -0500 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> Message-ID: <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> > > Yeah, have to have what, at least 4 desktops to get the cube ? I've > > played around with this in KDE but it's just not very stable. It seems > > to crash every once in a while and make you restart X. > > Right, you got to have four for the cube, but three or five and upwards > will do all the same. With two you get a nice flip-flop thingy anyway. > > I've given up compiz in kde: it's just not compatible enough. I have the > impression that beryl was doing slightly better. > > -- > lanzen > Yeah, has anyone else tried the compiz-fuzion packages ? Supposedly it's a collaborative effort by both compiz and beryl to get it working. Greg From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Wed Oct 24 19:01:48 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:01:48 +0300 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:35:31 +0300, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Hi, > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > Thx for the info. > > Karl, > At least Gwenview viewer for KDE seems to offer this kind of functionality. Plugins -> images -> email images... -> and there's a bunch of options, such as the resize and limiting the total size of the email. If the package is not installed by default, install it by "sudo aptitude install gwenview" - Jarkko From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Oct 24 19:04:11 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:04:11 -0400 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710241504.11058.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Hi, > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > Thx for the info. > > Karl, Digikam will do a nice job of this........ From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Wed Oct 24 19:14:14 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:14:14 -0700 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471F9986.8090700@oem.doe.gov> Greg Booth wrote: >>> Yeah, have to have what, at least 4 desktops to get the cube ? I've >>> played around with this in KDE but it's just not very stable. It seems >>> to crash every once in a while and make you restart X. >>> >> Right, you got to have four for the cube, but three or five and upwards >> will do all the same. With two you get a nice flip-flop thingy anyway. >> >> I've given up compiz in kde: it's just not compatible enough. I have the >> impression that beryl was doing slightly better. >> >> -- >> lanzen >> >> > > Yeah, has anyone else tried the compiz-fuzion packages ? Supposedly > it's a collaborative effort by both compiz and beryl to get it > working. > > Greg > > I for one wish Beryl would NOT have recombined with Compiz. Beryl used to work well on Kubuntu. The links on the Beryl project page to Ubuntu (How to Install) are no longer any good. Beryl please come back!!!! Doug P From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 19:28:31 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:28:31 +0200 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <471F9986.8090700@oem.doe.gov> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> <471F9986.8090700@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <1193254111.5671.2.camel@ikkyu2> > Beryl please come back!!!! Well, I see what you mean, but I'd rather compiz-fusion was able to do at least what it does in gnome. Anyway, maybe KDE4 will bring pretty news... -- lanzen From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 24 19:32:57 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:32:57 -0500 Subject: Puzzling VT resolution In-Reply-To: <471E5E3A.8000107@gmx.net> References: <200710231230.29981.yogich7230@sc2000.net> <471E5E3A.8000107@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710241433.04331.yogich7230@sc2000.net> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 15:48:58 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Yogich7230 wrote: > > I have installed Gutsy on a couple different partitions on my Dell > > Inspiron 1100, and in both cases the installation seems to activate the > > frame buffer and I am looking at a not-quite-full screen installation > > dialog. > > > > Once the system is installed, the KDE desktop comes up on 1024x768 as it > > should, and my VT is down to 640x480. I have tried various kernel > > parameters --i.e., vga=791 (errors out); vesa=0x317 (no change); > > vesa=0x324 (errors out)-- vga=771 is SUPPOSED to be 800x600 but, though > > not erroring out, is being ignored. > > > > My hdwe is as follows: > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation > > 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) > > > > Anyone with this same hdwe find a solution? > > > > Thanks... > > Hello, > since I upgraded to 7.10, I have the same troubles getting stuff to > appear on my display during boot. The grub menu works fine, then comes a > blank screen and eventually I get my login screen. > Hardware is a Thinkpad T23. Framebuffer (vga=791) worked fine in 6.10, > video card is a Super Savage IX/C, the X driver is simply "savage" > (which doesn't really really matter at that point anyway). > > Although a little bit annoyed by this, I haven't investigated the issue. > From my slackware times I recall to have compiled the kernel with some > certain options for the frame buffer. For kubuntu 7.10, I just hope that > by accident something had gone wrong and will be fixed at some time in > the future. > (Not complaining here, still grateful to all the people who put together > an OS that really rocks) > > Mike Well, I am grumbling, a bit, but your're correct: this one rocks. Least amount of trouble, I think, of almost any of them, but there are issues. I hope someone can point me to the solution... else I'll have to roll my own kernel if I can remember how I set the FB settings long, long ago ...when I ran Gentoo. -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting' ...so I use KMail.. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 20:41:44 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:41:44 -0600 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance Message-ID: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> I am rapidly becoming a fan of the KDE kate text editor. However, one thing is extremely annoying: when I use kate to edit a file, if there's already an instance of kate running somewhere (usually on another desktop), instead of starting up a new instance, the new edit is added to the already-running instance. Does anyone know of a way to change this maddening behaviour, so that a new instance of kate is always started? (This is on a 64-bit dapper system running KDE 3.5.5; kate is version 2.5.5) The man page implies that in order to get the observed behaviour, KDE is probably actually running "kate -u ", so presumably there's a place somewhere I can change that to simply "kate" instead of "kate -u" -- but where do I do that? Doc From jferrando at netplc.com Wed Oct 24 21:23:30 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:23:30 +0200 Subject: Mail Server In-Reply-To: <25395452.N4h8XFeHKp@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710232043.01855.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <25395452.N4h8XFeHKp@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <471FB7D2.6090202@netplc.com> This tutorial is good: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ Now I use zimbra open-source edition in a separate vmware virtual machine http://www.howtoforge.com/installing_zimbra_collaboration_suite_on_ubuntu Derek Broughton escribió: > Bruce Marshall wrote: > > >> On Tuesday 23 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >>> Ok a few months ago, I was about to ask the list some questions about a >>> mail server, but some unexpected things came up that I needed to work out >>> the kinks in. Finally I have accomplished that task. Now I'd like to ask >>> the list about setting up a mail server on my desktop that will fetch >>> mail and send it to my laptop and other computers. >>> >>> >> Please define "send to" >> >> >>> Does anyone know of any good howto's for kubuntu? And what software would >>> anyone recommend? >>> >> The basic pieces you need are fetchmail, and procmail, and depending on >> the definition of "send to" postfix. >> > > I hadn't really considered the definition of "sendto" myself. > > You probably want postfix (or other mail transfer agent [MTA]), anyway, > because you'll want to send mail _from_ your LAN to elsewhere, but if you'd > rather have everything stored in one location, and pull rather than push > the messages, then fetchmail -> (MDA | MTA) -> dovecot (or other IMAP > server) is really nice. Usable MDAs (mail delivery agents) include > procmail & maildrop, MTAs, I'd recommend postfix over any other options for > a full-time Internet connected mail server. If it's not on all the time, I > prefer masqmail. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 21:50:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:50:47 +0200 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance In-Reply-To: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> References: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > The man page implies that in order to get the observed behaviour, KDE is > probably actually running "kate -u ", so presumably there's a place > somewhere I can change that to simply "kate" instead of "kate -u" -- but > where do I do that? Fish around in kcontrol (run kcontrol, not that horrid Sytem Settings thing). KDE Components -> File Ass. -> search for txt, plain -> kate -> edit. Sorted. /d From temps.jo at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 21:55:32 2007 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:55:32 +0200 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Message-ID: I have edubuntu-gutsy and the same problem, but with kubuntu gutsy, I have no problem. May be is my install medibuntu in kubuntu ? 2007/10/24, hvralpha : > > Can anyone help with instructions to mount a external 160 Gb USB drive > with a > NTFS filesystem? > Thought it will work out of the box now that Kubuntu Gutsy can recognize > NTFS > and read write automaticall out of the box. > System mounts FAT32 USb drives ( 128 mb) automatically, but not my 160GB > drive. > thanks in advance. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Wed Oct 24 22:09:44 2007 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:09:44 +0100 Subject: PowerPC gutsy install disaster Message-ID: <20071024230944.7e595182.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Since the root partition on my iBook G3 had become too small and there were 20 GB of dead-space on my HD containing MacOS X which I've not used in 2 years I decided to back the whole lot up to an external drive and repartition. Live CD: No boot at all. Alternate: Boots and installs, but then on the reboot it hangs up as soon as the kernel starts to boot (as best I can tell it's made an invalid initramfs). Has anyone had any better luck with similar systems (either with the Kubuntu or the Ubuntu CD's), or know of any way to resolve the problem (other than downloading the Fiesty CD and starting from there) TIA James P.S. apologies for cross-posting, but I'd really like to get both general and kubuntu-specific ideas. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 22:09:51 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:09:51 -0600 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance In-Reply-To: <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471FC2AF.7000003@gmail.com> Donn said the following at 10/24/2007 03:50 PM : >> The man page implies that in order to get the observed behaviour, KDE is >> probably actually running "kate -u ", so presumably there's a place >> somewhere I can change that to simply "kate" instead of "kate -u" -- but >> where do I do that? > Fish around in kcontrol (run kcontrol, not that horrid Sytem Settings thing). > KDE Components -> File Ass. -> search for txt, plain -> kate -> edit. > Excellent! Thank you. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 22:20:32 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:20:32 +0200 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance In-Reply-To: <471FC2AF.7000003@gmail.com> References: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <471FC2AF.7000003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710250020.33000.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Excellent! Thank you. No worries. Glad my stone-age Kubuntu Dapper know-how can still apply in this modern Gutsy age. Man I feel so old! :D /d -- The following should be said, face to face, to any and all peddlers of religion: If I was in a room with you and two werewolves and I had a gun with two silver bullets, I'd shoot you -- twice. --cancergiggles http://forums.randi.org From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 22:24:43 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:24:43 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I had code from a few years ago to compress before email. I just touched it up and tested it on Kubuntu Dapper and it works okay. Perhaps it will help you, or spark an idea. /d -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Richard From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 22:27:33 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:27:33 -0700 Subject: Where's the "Cube" In-Reply-To: <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> References: <471F7E76.2040602@oem.doe.gov> <1193249832.5652.1.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241125kd10bfe9g9e9b42f24f21b3be@mail.gmail.com> <1193251732.5652.22.camel@ikkyu2> <720b310e0710241153h370eefbey972c4bc60b38e887@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/24/07, Greg Booth wrote: > > > Yeah, have to have what, at least 4 desktops to get the cube ? I've > > > played around with this in KDE but it's just not very stable. It seems > > > to crash every once in a while and make you restart X. > > > > Right, you got to have four for the cube, but three or five and upwards > > will do all the same. With two you get a nice flip-flop thingy anyway. > > > > I've given up compiz in kde: it's just not compatible enough. I have the > > impression that beryl was doing slightly better. > > > > -- > > lanzen > > > > Yeah, has anyone else tried the compiz-fuzion packages ? Supposedly > it's a collaborative effort by both compiz and beryl to get it > working. Worked very well for me on OpenSuSE 10.2... except I used it on a GeForce 8500 so it would crash all the time because it's not used to having a SMP streaming processor, which the 8-series is. I also have Beryl working reasonably well on my Intel i855GM IBM notebook, however, I don't leave it on, since the lack of GPU muscle makes the framerate problematic at best. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Wed Oct 24 23:50:14 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:50:14 +0100 Subject: Database Locked - Adept Crashes Message-ID: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> Hi all, this is a weird problem that's come right out of the blue... If I try to load up my Adept I get: Database Locked - Another process is using the packaging system Resolve Problem? Yes/No/Cancel. If I choose Yes it crashes with the message: Signal 6 (SIGABRT) and if I click the Backtrace tab I get: 'Backtrace appears to be if no use.' I loaded up KSysGuard and I seem to have: adept_notifier - running under my user name adept_updater - running as 'root'. adept_updater seems odd as I'm already running a bang up to date Gutsy :/ I tried rebooting the PC but everything is still as above. Assuming adept_updater is my my problem, how can I stop it loading at boot? Thanks in advance! :) -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From bardo88 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 23:59:12 2007 From: bardo88 at gmail.com (Brad Opferman) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:59:12 -0400 Subject: Database Locked - Adept Crashes In-Reply-To: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <471FDC50.9090703@gmail.com> This problem is coming from multiple processes simultaneously running that are using the update database. I usually get this problem if I try to update or install something on the command line while I already have synaptic or adept open. Try doing a ps -ef | grep adept and killing the processes that it has spawned. I remember there being a setting somewheres to how to stop it from starting automatically but I cant recall its location. Try killing the processes associated with adept and if that doesnt work, try searching for synaptic processes if you have it and killing those. Brad Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Hi all, this is a weird problem that's come right out of the blue... > > If I try to load up my Adept I get: > Database Locked - Another process is using the packaging system > Resolve Problem? Yes/No/Cancel. > > If I choose Yes it crashes with the message: > Signal 6 (SIGABRT) > and if I click the Backtrace tab I get: > 'Backtrace appears to be if no use.' > > I loaded up KSysGuard and I seem to have: > adept_notifier - running under my user name > adept_updater - running as 'root'. > > adept_updater seems odd as I'm already running a bang up to date Gutsy :/ > > I tried rebooting the PC but everything is still as above. > > Assuming adept_updater is my my problem, how can I stop it loading at boot? > > Thanks in advance! :) > > From ejviolet at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 00:01:01 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Database Locked - Adept Crashes In-Reply-To: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <803115.78749.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Hi all, this is a weird problem that's come right out of the > blue... > > If I try to load up my Adept I get: > Database Locked - Another process is using the packaging system > Resolve Problem? Yes/No/Cancel. > > If I choose Yes it crashes with the message: > Signal 6 (SIGABRT) > and if I click the Backtrace tab I get: > 'Backtrace appears to be if no use.' > > I loaded up KSysGuard and I seem to have: > adept_notifier - running under my user name > adept_updater - running as 'root'. > > adept_updater seems odd as I'm already running a bang up to date > Gutsy :/ > > I tried rebooting the PC but everything is still as above. > > Assuming adept_updater is my my problem, how can I stop it loading > at boot? from the command line run sudo ps aux | grep adept then run sudo kill PROCESS NUMBER Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Oct 25 00:02:39 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:02:39 -0400 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance In-Reply-To: <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> <200710242350.48041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710242002.39215.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Donn wrote: > > The man page implies that in order to get the observed behaviour, KDE is > > probably actually running "kate -u ", so presumably there's a place > > somewhere I can change that to simply "kate" instead of "kate -u" -- but > > where do I do that? > > Fish around in kcontrol (run kcontrol, not that horrid Sytem Settings > thing). KDE Components -> File Ass. -> search for txt, plain -> kate -> > edit. No, that was what I thought first off.... But then I opened Konq to a bunch of text files, and edited with 'other' and entered Kate as a command. I could never get it to start two instances.... no matter what I tried. From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Oct 25 00:13:33 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:13:33 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (progress) In-Reply-To: <471FB7D2.6090202@netplc.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <25395452.N4h8XFeHKp@cedar.serverforest.com> <471FB7D2.6090202@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 24 October 2007 5:23:30 pm Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: Ok I have installed everything to run a mail server. so far I am trying to configure fetchmail, so far I'm not getting any luck whenever there is mail in my inbox on AT&T. I am using webmin to configure fetchmail, well if there is no mail in my AT&T account, fetchmail finishes fine, but if there is mail it tells me how many messages are there but never downloads them and I get an error that says: fetchmail: getaddrinfo("localhost", "smtp") error: Name or service not known fetchmail: smtp connect to localhost failed. fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from d.mcglone at att.net@pop.att.yahoo.com and delivering to SMTP host localhost. fetchmail: querying pop.att.yahoo.com (protocol POP3) at wed 24 Oct....... : poll completed. fetchmail: Query status=10(smtp) fetchmail: normal termination, status 10. A big question I have, what does fetching mail got to do with smtp? I'm trying to fetch my mail not send it. -- David M. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Thu Oct 25 00:14:39 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:14:39 +0100 Subject: Database Locked - Adept Crashes In-Reply-To: <471FDC50.9090703@gmail.com> References: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> <471FDC50.9090703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471FDFEF.3020408@ronnietucker.co.uk> Thanks for the info Brad and Earl. It was, as I suspected, the updater that was clashing with Adept. I just hope the updater doesn't load up at boot all the time! :/ Thanks again guys! Brad Opferman wrote: > This problem is coming from multiple processes simultaneously running > that are using the update database. I usually get this problem if I try > to update or install something on the command line while I already have > synaptic or adept open. Try doing a ps -ef | grep adept and killing the > processes that it has spawned. I remember there being a setting > somewheres to how to stop it from starting automatically but I cant > recall its location. Try killing the processes associated with adept and > if that doesnt work, try searching for synaptic processes if you have it > and killing those. > > Brad > > > Ronnie Tucker wrote: > >> Hi all, this is a weird problem that's come right out of the blue... >> >> If I try to load up my Adept I get: >> Database Locked - Another process is using the packaging system >> Resolve Problem? Yes/No/Cancel. >> >> If I choose Yes it crashes with the message: >> Signal 6 (SIGABRT) >> and if I click the Backtrace tab I get: >> 'Backtrace appears to be if no use.' >> >> I loaded up KSysGuard and I seem to have: >> adept_notifier - running under my user name >> adept_updater - running as 'root'. >> >> adept_updater seems odd as I'm already running a bang up to date Gutsy :/ >> >> I tried rebooting the PC but everything is still as above. >> >> Assuming adept_updater is my my problem, how can I stop it loading at boot? >> >> Thanks in advance! :) >> >> >> > > > -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Oct 25 00:38:16 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:38:16 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (progress) In-Reply-To: <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <471FB7D2.6090202@netplc.com> <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710242038.16794.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday 24 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2007 5:23:30 pm Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > > Ok I have installed everything to run a mail server. > > so far I am trying to configure fetchmail, so far I'm not getting any luck > whenever there is mail in my inbox on AT&T. > > I am using webmin to configure fetchmail, well if there is no mail in my > AT&T account, fetchmail finishes fine, but if there is mail it tells me how > many messages are there but never downloads them and I get an error that > says: > > fetchmail: getaddrinfo("localhost", "smtp") error: Name or service not > known > > fetchmail: smtp connect to localhost failed. > > fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from > d.mcglone at att.net@pop.att.yahoo.com and delivering to SMTP host localhost. > > fetchmail: querying pop.att.yahoo.com (protocol POP3) at wed 24 Oct....... > : poll completed. > > fetchmail: Query status=10(smtp) > > fetchmail: normal termination, status 10. > > A big question I have, what does fetching mail got to do with smtp? I'm > trying to fetch my mail not send it. > > -- > David M. feetchmail has to hand off the mail it fetches to someone..... I use procmail... but I think it will hand off to your mailer (postfix or sendmail) if you don't specify how to process your mail. Here is my fetchmailrc that I always hand edit. I run fetchmail as root on my mailserver.... (they suggest not to but what the heck) ===================================== #fetchall #no rewrite #keep # set daemon 300 set logfile /var/log/fetchmail defaults proto pop3 mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F -d %T " fetchall poll pop..com user m40344-xxxxxcom pass user m4044-bmarshxxxx pass user m404-bmarshyyyy pass user m444-katrinazzzzzz pass =============================================== Of course, passwords and userids have been changed. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 25 00:58:54 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:58:54 -0400 Subject: Database Locked - Adept Crashes In-Reply-To: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <471FDA36.6060009@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <471FEA4E.3080208@sbcglobal.net> Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Hi all, this is a weird problem that's come right out of the blue... > > If I try to load up my Adept I get: > Database Locked - Another process is using the packaging system > Resolve Problem? Yes/No/Cancel. > > If I choose Yes it crashes with the message: > Signal 6 (SIGABRT) > and if I click the Backtrace tab I get: > 'Backtrace appears to be if no use.' > > I loaded up KSysGuard and I seem to have: > adept_notifier - running under my user name > adept_updater - running as 'root'. > > adept_updater seems odd as I'm already running a bang up to date Gutsy :/ > > I tried rebooting the PC but everything is still as above. > > Assuming adept_updater is my my problem, how can I stop it loading at boot? > > Thanks in advance! :) > > I had the very same problem; less than a week ago, I lost both hard drives and my records. I can't remember the code, but I can tell you the cure. There is code that will let you know all the running processes in Adept. If you can find that code, all you do is 'kill' them. They are in sets of 4 numbers, like 6001, or 3747, but whatever they are, you sudokill, I think if I remember correctly and the problem is cured. I am sorry I can't help you more, but I have helped several people because I saved the procedure and just cut and pasted the cure for others in the past. When my system crashed, I lost everything including that. I hope it puts you in the right direction. Good luck. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 02:40:17 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:40:17 +0800 Subject: Q: configuring kate to start a new instance In-Reply-To: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> References: <471FAE08.5070501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710251040.17582.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Thursday 25 October 2007 4:41:44 am D. R. Evans wrote: > I am rapidly becoming a fan of the KDE kate text editor. However, one thing > is extremely annoying: when I use kate to edit a file, if there's already > an instance of kate running somewhere (usually on another desktop), instead > of starting up a new instance, the new edit is added to the already-running > instance. > > Does anyone know of a way to change this maddening behaviour, so that a new > instance of kate is always started? > > (This is on a 64-bit dapper system running KDE 3.5.5; kate is version > 2.5.5) > > The man page implies that in order to get the observed behaviour, KDE is > probably actually running "kate -u ", so presumably there's a place > somewhere I can change that to simply "kate" instead of "kate -u" -- but > where do I do that? Remove the -u or --use flag in the Kate menu entry in the K Menu. K Menu -> Utilities -> right-click on Kate -> Edit this item. Hope that helps. From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 05:11:12 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:11:12 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Imagemagick is the classic command line tool for this job. Here is a bit from their web site. There is a good chance that it is in your computer now but just apt-get it if not. Douglas ImageMagick(R)is a software suite to create, edit, and compose bitmap images. It can read, convert and write images in a variety of formats(over 100) including DPX , EXR, GIF, JPEG, JPEG-2000, PDF, PhotoCD, PNG, Postscript, SVG, and TIFF. Use ImageMagick to translate, flip, mirror, rotate, scale, shear and transform images, adjust image colors, apply various special effects, or draw text, lines, polygons, ellipses and Bézier curves. The functionality of ImageMagick is typically utilized from the command line or you can use the features from programs written in your favorite programming language. Choose from these interfaces: G2F(Ada), MagickCore (C), MagickWand(C), ChMagick (Ch), ImageMagickObject (COM+), Magick++ (C++), JMagick(Java), L-Magick (Lisp), NMagick(Neko/haXe), MagickNet (.NET), PascalMagick (Pascal), PerlMagick (Perl), MagickWand for PHP (PHP), IMagick(PHP), PythonMagick (Python), RMagick (Ruby), or TclMagick (Tcl/TK). With a language interface, use ImageMagick to modify or create images dynamically and *automagically*. ImageMagick is free software delivered as a ready-to-run binary distribution or as source code that you may freely use, copy, modify, and distribute. Its license is compatible with the GPL . It runs on all major operating systems. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Thu Oct 25 05:37:37 2007 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:37:37 +0200 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Message-ID: <200710250737.37710.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Are you sure your eternal drive is a NTFS and not a FAT32? My internal SATA2 NTFS drives work, but when I plug in the external 160 USB drive, Dolphin opens and gives following message at bottom. : hal-storage-removable-mount-all-option : refused UID 1000 On Wednesday 24 October 2007 23:55:32 joris abadie wrote: > I have edubuntu-gutsy and the same problem, but with kubuntu gutsy, I have > no problem. May be is my install medibuntu in kubuntu ? > > 2007/10/24, hvralpha : > > Can anyone help with instructions to mount a external 160 Gb USB drive > > with a > > NTFS filesystem? > > Thought it will work out of the box now that Kubuntu Gutsy can recognize > > NTFS > > and read write automaticall out of the box. > > System mounts FAT32 USb drives ( 128 mb) automatically, but not my 160GB > > drive. > > thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From ejviolet at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 06:11:26 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problem with update-menus command Message-ID: <802790.34110.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm using Ubuntu 7.04. When I run: sudo update-menus I get several screens of: sh: Illegal option -r Does anyone have any idea what this means? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es Thu Oct 25 06:37:34 2007 From: gerhardusm2002 at yahoo.es (Galvanick Lucipher) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:37:34 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710250837.34790.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> On Thursday 25 October 2007 07:11:12 Knapp wrote: > Imagemagick is the classic command line tool for this job. Here is a bit > from their web site. There is a good chance that it is in your computer now > but just apt-get it if not. Also, have a look at the kim plugins (package konq-kim). It's a series of plugins to manipulate images from within Konqueror. I use it all the time. - Urtzi - -- You will be the last person to buy a Chrysler. ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y m�viles desde 1 c�ntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 07:58:32 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:58:32 +0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Message-ID: <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> joris abadie wrote: > I have edubuntu-gutsy and the same problem, but with kubuntu gutsy, I > have no problem. May be is my install medibuntu in kubuntu ? > > 2007/10/24, hvralpha < hvralpha at intekom.co.za > >: > > Can anyone help with instructions to mount a external 160 Gb USB > drive with a > NTFS filesystem? > Thought it will work out of the box now that Kubuntu Gutsy can > recognize NTFS > and read write automaticall out of the box. > System mounts FAT32 USb drives ( 128 mb) automatically, but not my > 160GB > drive. > thanks in advance. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > similar problem was discussed earlier: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-August/019782.html From prlewis at letterboxes.org Thu Oct 25 08:48:52 2007 From: prlewis at letterboxes.org (Peter Lewis) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:52 +0100 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710250837.34790.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710250837.34790.gerhardusm2002@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <200710250948.52541.prlewis@letterboxes.org> On Thursday 25 October 2007 07:37, Galvanick Lucipher wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 07:11:12 Knapp wrote: > > Imagemagick is the classic command line tool for this job. Here is a bit > > from their web site. There is a good chance that it is in your computer > > now but just apt-get it if not. > > Also, have a look at the kim plugins (package konq-kim). It's a series of > plugins to manipulate images from within Konqueror. I use it all the time. I second that. These are easy and very good. Pete. From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Thu Oct 25 09:26:12 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:26:12 +0100 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710251026.12977.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Thursday 25 Oct 2007, Knapp wrote: > Imagemagick is the classic command line tool for this job. Here is a bit > from their web site. There is a good chance that it is in your computer now > but just apt-get it if not. > > Douglas That's what I use too. Some time ago I figured out how to make a bash script loop work in sequence on files in a directory, and from there it's pretty simple to copy and slightly adapt the script to do all sorts of useful things, such as:- Convert all the .ppm files produced by ufraw into .png files. With the insertion of a single awk command, it renames all the raw files from my camera so that the date and time the picture was taken becomes part of the file name. When I need to ftp a batch of images (maybe 100 or more) to photobox for printing at 8x6 inches, I copy everything into a temporary directory for printing. Then another version of my script uses convert to change all the files from full resolution .png files to 2400x1800 pixels, 300dpi, 80% quality .jpg files. I just get on with something else while the script does the donkey work. No doubt I'll soon find further uses for it. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 09:39:07 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:39:07 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710251026.12977.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710250024.43522.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710251026.12977.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: > > > Some time ago I figured out how to make a bash script loop work in > sequence on > files in a directory, and from there it's pretty simple to copy and > slightly > adapt the script to do all sorts of useful things, such as:- > > Dave > Having looked at all the other ideas here, I have to note that it looks like most of them are GUIs on top of imagemagick. I know that that first little program was python calling it. I have to say that it is nice to have the gui. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 25 12:45:36 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:45:36 -0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> Alexander Smirnov wrote: > joris abadie wrote: > >> I have edubuntu-gutsy and the same problem, but with kubuntu gutsy, I >> have no problem. May be is my install medibuntu in kubuntu ? >> >> 2007/10/24, hvralpha < hvralpha at intekom.co.za >> >: >> >> Can anyone help with instructions to mount a external 160 Gb USB >> drive with a >> NTFS filesystem? >> Thought it will work out of the box now that Kubuntu Gutsy can >> recognize NTFS >> and read write automaticall out of the box. >> System mounts FAT32 USb drives ( 128 mb) automatically, but not my >> 160GB >> drive. >> thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > similar problem was discussed earlier: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-August/019782.html > > I have the same problem, I am trying to install a One TB Maxtor One Touch III FireWire800 FireWire400 USB2 external hard drive. It may be that you will have to create a small partition, and borrow a Windows XP CD including it's installation code. If the drive is Seagate or Maxtor, they preconfigure the drives for Windows and Apple/Mac. With those OS's, it is just a matter of plug and play. I am told the drivers are on the respective CD's, but haven't found out yet. I am saving your email address, so if I figure out the problem before you, I will write. I am writing now because everytime I read your post to see if I can get help, I notice you don't get any replies. Once the drive is recognized, you can change to ext3 and properly mount it. Then remove Windows XP, and you are, I believe, legal again. There is probably an easier fix, but until someone with more knowledge appears, we will have to wait or use the above cure. One of the Linux Gurus, someone who really knows Linux, lives close to me. I just found him. He is going to try to help me. But he did not have an answer to this problem, and he is able to easily set up and configure just about anything. He can also easily correct the problems I create. Don't lose faith; manufacturers are romanced by Microsoft and do things that exclude Linux users. But eventually we find those answers, and look at the superior capability of Linux. It is worth it. Some day Linux will take over, because so many technicians are forced to not only create new technologies, but figure the solutions to all the problems created by competitors who want us excluded. We will be forced to become more capable than them, and everything we make will continue to be better than what they produce. Slowly, the word is getting out. Strange, this is one time you can get something for nothing and most people are too wary to try. Be patient. I never give up; so if you can't find the answer, I will. Steven Vollom, fine-artist retired From james at saveker.org Thu Oct 25 13:55:20 2007 From: james at saveker.org (James Saveker) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:20 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 7.10 Message-ID: <240f61c20710250655m63e4acbqd8e5055b4fc427ea@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, I am running in to a snag when attempting to upgrade via the update manager. Error during update: A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry. Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gzSub-process gzip returned an error code (1) I know there is not a problem with my Internet connection as it downloaded other updates without issue. Any ideas folks? Cheers. -- Jimbo. In God we trust, Everyone else must have an X.509 certificate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 13:53:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:53:34 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (progress) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <471FB7D2.6090202@netplc.com> <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710242038.16794.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1752892.NQHRKDeejT@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >> fetchmail: querying pop.att.yahoo.com (protocol POP3) at wed 24 >> Oct....... >> : poll completed. >> >> fetchmail: Query status=10(smtp) >> >> fetchmail: normal termination, status 10. >> >> A big question I have, what does fetching mail got to do with smtp? I'm >> trying to fetch my mail not send it. > > feetchmail has to hand off the mail it fetches to someone..... I use > procmail... but I think it will hand off to your mailer (postfix or > sendmail) if you don't specify how to process your mail. Precisely. By default, it just delivers the mail to localhost:25, which works great for me. You can either go the MDA (procmail/maildrop) route, or just use your smtp server. If you really don't need an smtp server for outbound mail, then the MDA is simpler. Because I _must_ have a local outbound smtp server (mail needs to be routed different ways, depending where I am), I see no need for an additional MDA. So if you're using an smtp server, and you think you have it correctly configured, start with: # telnet localhost 25 If that doesn't give you a "2xx ... SMTP" message, you don't have smtp working yet... -- derek From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Oct 25 14:10:03 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:10:03 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 7.10 In-Reply-To: <240f61c20710250655m63e4acbqd8e5055b4fc427ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <240f61c20710250655m63e4acbqd8e5055b4fc427ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4720A3BB.50403@stdin.me.uk> James Saveker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am running in to a snag when attempting to upgrade via the update manager. > > Error during update: > A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network > problem, please check your network connection and retry. > > Failed to fetch > http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gzSub-process > gzip returned an error code (1) > > I know there is not a problem with my Internet connection as it downloaded > other updates without issue. > > Any ideas folks? > > Cheers. > > Try this in a terminal: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* That should remove any partially downloaded and possibly corrupt files so apt will start the download from the start. Terence From james at saveker.org Thu Oct 25 16:06:59 2007 From: james at saveker.org (James Saveker) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:06:59 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 7.10 In-Reply-To: References: <240f61c20710250655m63e4acbqd8e5055b4fc427ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240f61c20710250906s637a96e7vc4e2e1a6376ae2ea@mail.gmail.com> I feel quite silly now.... I gave the issue some thought and just changed the Ubuntu repo server in Synamtic (or whatever it's called) and it worked... The packages have downloaded and now it has started installing the upgrades. Fingers crossed the upgrade should go smoothly. Kind regards, Jimbo. On 10/25/07, Asad Manzoor wrote: > > I had the same problem. Just download an iso image, burn it and install > from the CD. > > > On 25/10/2007, James Saveker < james at saveker.org> wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > I am running in to a snag when attempting to upgrade via the update > > manager. > > > > Error during update: > > A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of > > network problem, please check your network connection and retry. > > > > Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) > > > > I know there is not a problem with my Internet connection as it > > downloaded other updates without issue. > > > > Any ideas folks? > > > > Cheers. > > > > -- > > Jimbo. > > > > In God we trust, > > Everyone else must have an X.509 certificate. > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- Jimbo. 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DSP From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 18:43:16 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:43:16 +0200 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> > If the drive is Seagate or Maxtor, they preconfigure the drives for > Windows and Apple/Mac. I've just recently got a seagate sata /300 (500Gb - slurp). On the box it says: compatible with Linux. I must say it is. Unfortunately - well, not so much - I didn't formatted it as NTFS so I can't say what would have happened in that case. -- lanzen Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 19:20:03 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:20:03 -0300 Subject: One small Gutsy problem Message-ID: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and .zip archives in the embedded window. I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded window, I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL of tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always opens ark. Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in separate windows... :-) -- derek From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 21:26:08 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:26:08 +0800 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710260526.08162.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Friday 26 October 2007 3:20:03 am Derek Broughton wrote: > I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and .zip > archives in the embedded window. > > I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded window, I > removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL of > tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always opens > ark. > > Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. > > I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in > separate windows... :-) > -- > derek To enable Konqueror to open tar and zip files: rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk/application/ From: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror From kassube at gmx.net Thu Oct 25 21:28:13 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:28:13 +0200 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710252328.13495.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and > .zip archives in the embedded window. > > I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded > window, I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL > of tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always > opens ark. > > Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. > > I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in > separate windows... :-) apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings Nils From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 25 22:08:00 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> Message-ID: <472113C0.2030509@sbcglobal.net> lanzen wrote: >> If the drive is Seagate or Maxtor, they preconfigure the drives for >> Windows and Apple/Mac. >> > > I've just recently got a seagate sata /300 (500Gb - slurp). On the box > it says: compatible with Linux. I must say it is. Unfortunately - well, > not so much - I didn't formatted it as NTFS so I can't say what would > have happened in that case. > > I just purchased a Maxtor One Touch III incl. Firewire800. They are pre-configured to XP or Vista or Mac only. I have heard I can solve the problem any, but haven't so far. From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Oct 25 22:36:58 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:36:58 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (progress) In-Reply-To: <200710242038.16794.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710242038.16794.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200710251836.58817.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 24 October 2007 8:38:16 pm Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 October 2007 5:23:30 pm Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > feetchmail has to hand off the mail it fetches to someone..... I use > procmail... but I think it will hand off to your mailer (postfix or > sendmail) if you don't specify how to process your mail. > > > Here is my fetchmailrc that I always hand edit. > > I run fetchmail as root on my mailserver.... (they suggest not to but what > the heck) > ===================================== > #fetchall > #no rewrite > #keep > # > > set daemon 300 > set logfile /var/log/fetchmail > defaults > proto pop3 > > mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F -d %T " > fetchall > > poll pop..com > user m40344-xxxxxcom pass > user m4044-bmarshxxxx pass > user m404-bmarshyyyy pass > user m444-katrinazzzzzz pass > > =============================================== > Of course, passwords and userids have been changed. Wow, this is getting to be crazy. A simple task turns into a nightmare almost. Ok so far, I *think* I have fetchmail working, it seems to be retrieving my mail, but heck I can't find the mail anywhere. When I look in /var/mail it says there are messages for dmcglone but when I try to read them they disappear like Chris Angel :-) Here is what I'm getting when I fetchmail: fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> USER d.mcglone at att.net fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK maildrop ready, 1 message (2136 octets) (2136 2793930752) fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 2136 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 1 message for d.mcglone at att.net at AT&T (2136 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 1754 fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1754 octets reading message d.mcglone at att.net@pop-sbc.mail.yahoo4.akadns.net:1 of 1 (1754 octets) #*** not flushed fetchmail: POP3> QUIT fetchmail: POP3< +OK server signing off. fetchmail: 6.3.8 querying AT&T (protocol POP3) at Thu 25 Oct 2007 02:35:26 PM EDT: poll completed fetchmail: normal termination, status 0 after I checked mail, I looked in mailbox and indeed there was 1 message, when I chose to read it, viola it did an amazing disappear act and said there was no mail in inbox. -- David M. From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 23:08:47 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:08:47 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (progress) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710242013.33522.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710242038.16794.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710251836.58817.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <198901517.F8kKBV8jf6@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > > Wow, this is getting to be crazy. A simple task turns into a nightmare > almost. > I'm afraid I have to lay the blame, at least somewhat, on the developers. I hung out on the exim developers list for a year or two, and there are people (not the primary developer thankfully) who firmly believe that it is _wrong_ to make a mail server simple to configure, because they think idiots will then become mail admins, and bugger up the whole international email system. They're missing two important details - idiots already _are_ mail admins, and need some tools that can make sure they don't misconfigure mail servers; and the whole international email system is clearly pretty-well buggered anyway! > Ok so far, I *think* I have fetchmail working, it seems to be retrieving > my mail, but heck I can't find the mail anywhere. When I look in /var/mail > it says there are messages for dmcglone but when I try to read them they > disappear like Chris Angel :-) What precisely do you have in /var/mail? Under no circumstances should you be using mbox files - there's simply no good reason to use them these days for anything but an archive. Set up delivery to Maildir directories. Then under /var/mail/dmcglone (or whatever) you should see "new", "cur" and "tmp" directories. In the "new" one, there'll be one file per message - until you look at them in a mail program, when they'll get moved to "cur" > Here is what I'm getting when I fetchmail: > reading message d.mcglone at att.net@pop-sbc.mail.yahoo4.akadns.net:1 of 1 > (1754 octets) > #*** not flushed Glad to see that :-) The number of times I've modified my mail config without preventing the messages being deleted from the server... > after I checked mail, I looked in mailbox and indeed there was 1 message, How? > when I chose to read it, viola it did an amazing disappear act and said > there was no mail in inbox. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 22:57:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:57:21 -0300 Subject: One small Gutsy problem References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710252328.13495.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1333805.fac9TSRhp4@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and >> .zip archives in the embedded window. >> >> I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded >> window, I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL >> of tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always >> opens ark. >> >> Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. >> >> I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in >> separate windows... :-) > > apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings I suppose that will cost me nothing... but having already removed the associated .desktop files, it seems unlikely. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 22:56:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:56:31 -0300 Subject: One small Gutsy problem References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710260526.08162.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217176.yWv3D8F9rz@cedar.serverforest.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 3:20:03 am Derek Broughton wrote: >> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and .zip >> archives in the embedded window. >> >> I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded window, >> I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL of >> tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always opens >> ark. >> >> Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. >> >> I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in >> separate windows... :-) >> -- >> derek > To enable Konqueror to open tar and zip files: > > rm -r > /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk/application/ > > From: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror Did that, as noted above. That's a pre-gutsy instruction (because it's exactly what I used when I first set this machine up two weeks ago, using feisty). -- derek From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Oct 25 23:20:55 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:20:55 -0400 Subject: Problem with update-menus command In-Reply-To: <802790.34110.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <802790.34110.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710251920.55330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 25 October 2007, Earl Violet wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu 7.04. When I run: > > sudo update-menus > > I get several screens of: > > sh: Illegal option -r > > Does anyone have any idea what this means? I sure don't, but I have a guess. We ran into a problem like this at Rosegarden recently. Lots of our scripts were set up to assume that /bin/sh would be bash when it is in fact dash on a stock Ubuntu system, and bash commands were choking dash. I don't have an "update-menus" on this system, and don't really want to go see about installing one. I had a look at some other update-* scripts, and one of them started with: #/bin/sh -e So I'm betting your update-menus script starts with: #/bin/sh -r That would work on a Debian system, I think, but not on Ubuntu. $ sh -r sh: Illegal option -r $ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 26 19:51 /bin/sh -> dash* So my guess is very plausible. This is probably a case of something Ubuntu lifted from Debian but did not adapt to the change in which shell was going to do the job of /bin/sh. You can probably fix it by hacking the script to change /bin/sh to /bin/bash, or by hacking the system level symlink so that /bin/sh points to /bin/bash instead of /bin/dash. Either way, a more permanent solution would have to take place at the package maintainer patch level. -- D. Michael McIntyre From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 26 00:05:49 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:05:49 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (progress) In-Reply-To: <198901517.F8kKBV8jf6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710251836.58817.d.mcglone@att.net> <198901517.F8kKBV8jf6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > Ok so far, I *think* I have fetchmail working, it seems to be retrieving > > my mail, but heck I can't find the mail anywhere. When I look in > > /var/mail it says there are messages for dmcglone but when I try to read > > them they disappear like Chris Angel :-) > > What precisely do you have in /var/mail? Under no circumstances should you > be using mbox files - there's simply no good reason to use them these days > for anything but an archive. Set up delivery to Maildir directories. Then > under /var/mail/dmcglone (or whatever) you should see "new", "cur" > and "tmp" directories. In the "new" one, there'll be one file per > message - until you look at them in a mail program, when they'll get moved > to "cur" In /var/mail there is just one empty text file:dmcglone How would you suggest creating a maildir mailbox? > > > Here is what I'm getting when I fetchmail: > > > > reading message d.mcglone at att.net@pop-sbc.mail.yahoo4.akadns.net:1 of 1 > > (1754 octets) > > #*** not flushed > > Glad to see that :-) The number of times I've modified my mail config > without preventing the messages being deleted from the server... I lost 7 by my own mistake of telling fetchmail to delete it. The default was to keep it on the server. I use webmin by the way, have you tried it? > > > after I checked mail, I looked in mailbox and indeed there was 1 message, > > How? I wish I knew, but when I checked /var/mail it said there was mail for dmcglone when I clicked on it the mail disappeared. > > > when I chose to read it, viola it did an amazing disappear act and said > > there was no mail in inbox. -- David M. From tim at johnsons-web.com Fri Oct 26 00:54:37 2007 From: tim at johnsons-web.com (Tim Johnson) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:54:37 -0800 Subject: Making firefox the default browser Message-ID: <200710251654.37737.tim@johnsons-web.com> Hi: I just installed gutsy, replacing feisty. (Is that two of the seven dwarfs?) Can't seem to make firefox my default browser. Example tim at bart:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser There are 2 alternatives which provide `x-www-browser'. Selection Alternative ----------------------------------------------- + 1 /usr/bin/konqueror * 2 /usr/bin/firefox ## Looks like firefox is the default browser. But If I highlight the name of a html file in MC and hit enter, konqueror loads the file. In feisty with similar configuration, firefox would load, or if firefox was already running, open the document in a new tab. Anyone know what else I need to do. Thanks Tim From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 26 01:05:56 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:05:56 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (Even more progress) In-Reply-To: <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <198901517.F8kKBV8jf6@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 25 October 2007 8:05:49 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > David McGlone wrote: I sent some mail and somehow 3 messages ended up in my postfix Queue, when I open the Queue to look at the messages, it says under status: mail transport unavailable. Hmmm, I thought postfix was my mail transport agent. -- David M. From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 01:29:43 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problem with update-menus command In-Reply-To: <200710251920.55330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <408863.88857.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "D. Michael McIntyre" wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007, Earl Violet wrote: > > > I'm using Ubuntu 7.04. When I run: > > > > sudo update-menus > > > > I get several screens of: > > > > sh: Illegal option -r > > > > Does anyone have any idea what this means? > > I sure don't, but I have a guess. We ran into a problem like this > at > Rosegarden recently. Lots of our scripts were set up to assume > that /bin/sh > would be bash when it is in fact dash on a stock Ubuntu system, and > bash > commands were choking dash. > > I don't have an "update-menus" on this system, and don't really > want to go see > about installing one. I had a look at some other update-* scripts, > and one > of them started with: > > #/bin/sh -e > > So I'm betting your update-menus script starts with: > > #/bin/sh -r > > That would work on a Debian system, I think, but not on Ubuntu. > > $ sh -r > sh: Illegal option -r > $ ls -l /bin/sh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 26 19:51 /bin/sh -> > dash* > > So my guess is very plausible. This is probably a case of > something Ubuntu > lifted from Debian but did not adapt to the change in which shell > was going > to do the job of /bin/sh. > > You can probably fix it by hacking the script to change /bin/sh to > /bin/bash, > or by hacking the system level symlink so that /bin/sh points to > /bin/bash > instead of /bin/dash. Either way, a more permanent solution would > have to > take place at the package maintainer patch level. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre Another Linux miracle!! When I ran update-menus today, there was no problem. You're right and the default is dash. I checked my home directory and it shows .bash_history .bash_logout and .bashrc. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From karlok at fastmail.fm Fri Oct 26 01:38:51 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (kk) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:38:51 -0700 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4721452B.7080509@fastmail.fm> Derek Broughton wrote: > I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and .zip > archives in the embedded window. > > I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded window, I > removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL of > tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always opens > ark. > > Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. > > I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in > separate windows... :-) > Found this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_(computing) : "Ark can be integrated into Konqueror , through KParts technology, if the appropriate plugin from /kdeaddons/ package is installed. After installing it, files can be added or extracted in/from the archives using Konqueror's context menus." kdeaddons is not installed on my systems. I haven't tried it, but it m From karlok at fastmail.fm Fri Oct 26 01:43:11 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:43:11 -0700 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <4721452B.7080509@fastmail.fm> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <4721452B.7080509@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4721462F.8000603@fastmail.fm> kk wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and .zip >> archives in the embedded window. >> >> I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded window, I >> removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL of >> tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always opens >> ark. >> >> Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. >> >> I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in >> separate windows... :-) >> > Found this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_(computing) : > > "Ark can be integrated into Konqueror > , through KParts > technology, if the appropriate > plugin from /kdeaddons/ package is installed. After installing it, files > can be added or extracted in/from the archives using Konqueror's context > menus." > > kdeaddons is not installed on my systems. I haven't tried it, but it m > Oops, I hit send by mistake. I was going to say it might be worth a try. Karl From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 26 02:31:51 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:31:51 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (Even more progress) In-Reply-To: <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710252231.51430.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 25 October 2007 9:05:56 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 8:05:49 pm David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > > David McGlone wrote: > > I sent some mail and somehow 3 messages ended up in my postfix Queue, when > I open the Queue to look at the messages, it says under status: mail > transport unavailable. > > Hmmm, I thought postfix was my mail transport agent. Well I figured this out. Problem was I don't have sendmail installed and I was using sendmail to send the messages instead of procmail. I'm back to square 1. Fetchmail seems to be getting my mail, but then it's just getting lost in la la land. -- David M. From rick_knight at rlknight.com Fri Oct 26 04:16:41 2007 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:16:41 -0700 Subject: Mail Server (Even more progress) In-Reply-To: <200710252231.51430.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252231.51430.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <47216A29.5040105@rlknight.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 9:05:56 pm David McGlone wrote: > >> On Thursday 25 October 2007 8:05:49 pm David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>> >> I sent some mail and somehow 3 messages ended up in my postfix Queue, when >> I open the Queue to look at the messages, it says under status: mail >> transport unavailable. >> >> Hmmm, I thought postfix was my mail transport agent. >> > > Well I figured this out. Problem was I don't have sendmail installed and I was > using sendmail to send the messages instead of procmail. > > I'm back to square 1. Fetchmail seems to be getting my mail, but then it's > just getting lost in la la land. > > > > OK. You didn't have sendmail installed. Why not install it now? I've been running my own mail server on sendmail for 8 to 10 years now and it really isn't that tough to set up. It's really pretty intuitive on modern distros. And there's lot's of help available. Just Google it. So go on, give it a try. Rick PS. yes, I am a system admin, NO, I'm not a Sendmail expert. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:13:04 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:13:04 +0200 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <4721462F.8000603@fastmail.fm> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <4721452B.7080509@fastmail.fm> <4721462F.8000603@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200710260713.04519.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Oops, I hit send by mistake. I was going to say it might be worth a try. :D I hate it when that happens :) My system should pretend to send email and then, 5 mins later, popup a message saying "Are you *dang* sure you want to send that?" /d From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 25 23:43:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:43:31 -0300 Subject: One small Gutsy problem References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710252328.13495.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1461099.8dKS0ayGQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and >> .zip archives in the embedded window. >> >> I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded >> window, I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a URL >> of tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive always >> opens ark. >> >> Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. >> >> I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps in >> separate windows... :-) > > apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings > Well, thank you Nils. I don't understand _why_ removing the specific .desktop files didn't work but removing the package did, but I don't care :-) Worked perfectly. (and for the person who was worried last week about removing kubuntu-default-settings wanting to remove kubuntu-desktop, and others, apparently that's no longer an issue - nothing else was removed). -- derek From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 05:11:04 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: further fixes Message-ID: <62131.97870.qm@web59312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> like i had mentioned earlier (and very much appreciate the help fixing, i had installed debian etchy on a seperate partition, which caused my swap space to go awol. well this is fixed, but i cannot seem to find the reference for my external hard drive in the fstab which seems to have gone awol as well at the same time thanks in advance for any help __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:14:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:14:56 +0200 Subject: Problem with update-menus command In-Reply-To: <200710251920.55330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <802790.34110.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200710251920.55330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710260714.56779.donn.ingle@gmail.com> >dash dash? Aw man, and here I was thinking I had learned me a thing or two. /d From karlok at fastmail.fm Fri Oct 26 05:45:18 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:45:18 -0700 Subject: further fixes In-Reply-To: <62131.97870.qm@web59312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <62131.97870.qm@web59312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47217EEE.6050106@fastmail.fm> joseph lockhart wrote: > like i had mentioned earlier (and very much appreciate > the help fixing, i had installed debian etchy on a > seperate partition, which caused my swap space to go > awol. well this is fixed, but i cannot seem to find > the reference for my external hard drive in the fstab > which seems to have gone awol as well at the same time > > thanks in advance for any help > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > "sudo blkid -c /dev/null" will give you information about all your partitions. My external drive shows up as: /dev/sdb1: UUID="9407c6aa-0d8e-47b6-b08b-a300f00aee5f" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" This should let you recreate the fstab entry. Karl From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 08:04:54 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:04:54 +0400 Subject: Making firefox the default browser In-Reply-To: <200710251654.37737.tim@johnsons-web.com> References: <200710251654.37737.tim@johnsons-web.com> Message-ID: <47219FA6.1020901@gmail.com> Tim Johnson wrote: > Hi: > I just installed gutsy, replacing feisty. > (Is that two of the seven dwarfs?) > Can't seem to make firefox my default browser. > > Example > tim at bart:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser > > There are 2 alternatives which provide `x-www-browser'. > > Selection Alternative > ----------------------------------------------- > + 1 /usr/bin/konqueror > * 2 /usr/bin/firefox > ## Looks like firefox is the default browser. > But > If I highlight the name of a html file in MC and > hit enter, konqueror loads the file. > > In feisty with similar configuration, firefox would load, or > if firefox was already running, open the document in > a new tab. > > Anyone know what else I need to do. > Thanks > Tim > have you tried System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser setting? From kassube at gmx.net Fri Oct 26 08:53:52 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:53:52 +0200 Subject: One small Gutsy problem In-Reply-To: <1461099.8dKS0ayGQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <8407512.XPM0jYVHhL@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710252328.13495.kassube@gmx.net> <1461099.8dKS0ayGQ1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710261053.52544.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> I can't figure out how to make Konqueror go back to opening .tgz and > >> .zip archives in the embedded window. > >> > >> I checked that the File Associations said to open in the embedded > >> window, I removed the kubuntu-default .desktop files, and opening a > >> URL of tar:/filename works fine, but just clicking on the archive > >> always opens ark. > >> > >> Opened a KDE session for a brand new user, same problem. > >> > >> I just can't imagine why _anyone_ would want to open embeddable apps > >> in separate windows... :-) > > > > apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings > > Well, thank you Nils. I don't understand _why_ removing the > specific .desktop files didn't work but removing the package did, but I > don't care :-) Worked perfectly. > > (and for the person who was worried last week about removing > kubuntu-default-settings wanting to remove kubuntu-desktop, and others, > apparently that's no longer an issue - nothing else was removed). Well, it seems, there IS an issue after all. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused by my suggestion to remove the package. When I saw your mail, I only remembered, the konqueror annoyance had something to do with the package kubuntu-default-settings. Therefore I removed it and afterwards everything was still working. However, I didn't restart the machine after removing that package. This morning there was a surprise when kdm complained about a missing file. After login there were some more problems like missing background picture and empty kicker :( Now I checked several files in the package to find out which could be removed to get rid of the unwanted konqueror behaviour without causing extra trouble. It turned out to be the files in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk, which was mentioned by Juan Carlos Torres already. I think it is a bit strange that removing the files didn't work for you, but removing the package worked. BTW: Dolphin opens archives transparently no matter if kubuntu-default-settings is installed. Nils From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Fri Oct 26 09:21:18 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:21:18 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710261121.18796.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> It's nice to seem all the good ideas coming up from everyone... Time to test... Thx for the answers.... K, Op Wednesday 24 October 2007 20:35:31 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > Hi, > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > Thx for the info. > > Karl, From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 09:34:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:34:42 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710261121.18796.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710261121.18796.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710261134.42307.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > It's nice to seem all the good ideas coming up from everyone... > Time to test... Cool. IMHO, my little python hack is better for email than the KIM stuff because it let's you go back and resize again and again until you get a good size. You can also open the resized images (in Konqueror) to view them for quality. Still, perhaps KIM does this too -- it's actually broken on my Kubuntu Dapper, so I don't use it much. Hope the script works on newer KDEs. i.e Dolphin... /d From paulvarjak at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 10:21:44 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:21:44 +0200 Subject: anyone running X1400 on gutsy with new ati driver In-Reply-To: <471F3FFC.1030808@gmail.com> References: <471F3FFC.1030808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710260321o6c587671h9edc0d8c64c271df@mail.gmail.com> Hello. After upgrading to GG (7.10) I'm running X1600 pro with the 8.40.4 driver (https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.40.4.html). I used the ATI installer and everything worked fine. This is not the last version but the last version (8.41.7) is not recommended for ATI X1900 and lower. I have to say I'm really surprised by the driver. Using the aticonfig utility with the apropriate parameters the TVOut finally works fine. I've been able to clone my desktop to the TV and when I set the resolution to 1024x768 I'm able to see full-screen movies in my home TV with a very good quality. The perfect way for not having to burn DVD's. I have to say that I haven't tested the 3D performan because I just don't care about it. So if this can be a problem for you then you should wait until someone else says something. Regards, Paul. On 10/24/07, Paul S wrote: > Anyone running the new ati fglrx driver on gutsy kubuntu with an X1400 > ati card, successfully. I'm trying to decide whether to install it or > wait for the next release. I'm seeing reports on phoronix that gutsy > users with X1400 get bad video playback and 2D slowness, as evidenced by > slow scrolling in firefox when running compiz. But suspend / hibernate > are claimed to be working. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 10:09:33 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:09:33 +0000 Subject: kde problem on gutsy Message-ID: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> I just did a mostly clean install of gutsy. As in previous "upgrades", I allowed the installer to reformat / partition while leaving intact the /home partition. Thus all my user directories are preserved intact. Now however, I can't login to one of my user accounts through kdm. After entering the username and password, I get an error window (an unadorned X dialog box) telling me that startkdeconfig won't run (don't recall the exact wording). After selecting the OK button to clear the dialog box, the system thinks for a few seconds and then dumps me back to the kdm login screen. I can login to the same account using another window manager, and I've tried renaming the .kde directory, but no luck, I still can't get this account to start kde. Since I'm writing this from another (new to gutsy) account, there's nothing apparently wrong with the kde installation. Any ideas how to get back to kde on the first account? Paul From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 10:40:36 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:40:36 +0100 Subject: kde problem on gutsy In-Reply-To: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: Are you able to create a new user and log into that account? Marty. On 10/26/07, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > > I just did a mostly clean install of gutsy. As in previous "upgrades", I > allowed the installer to reformat / partition while leaving intact the /home > partition. Thus all my user directories are preserved intact. Now however, > I can't login to one of my user accounts through kdm. After entering the > username and password, I get an error window (an unadorned X dialog box) > telling me that startkdeconfig won't run (don't recall the exact > wording). After selecting the OK button to clear the dialog box, the system > thinks for a few seconds and then dumps me back to the kdm login screen. I > can login to the same account using another window manager, and I've tried > renaming the .kde directory, but no luck, I still can't get this account to > start kde. Since I'm writing this from another (new to gutsy) account, > there's nothing apparently wrong with the kde installation. > > Any ideas how to get back to kde on the first account? > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kaj at haulrich.net Fri Oct 26 10:46:09 2007 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:46:09 +0200 Subject: kde problem on gutsy In-Reply-To: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200710261246.09955.kaj@haulrich.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 12:09:33 pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > I just did a mostly clean install of gutsy. As in previous > "upgrades", I allowed the installer to reformat / partition while > leaving intact the /home partition. Thus all my user directories > are preserved intact. Now however, I can't login to one of my > user accounts through kdm. After entering the username and > password, I get an error window (an unadorned X dialog box) > telling me that startkdeconfig won't run (don't recall the exact > wording). After selecting the OK button to clear the dialog box, > the system thinks for a few seconds and then dumps me back to the > kdm login screen. I can login to the same account using another > window manager, and I've tried renaming the .kde directory, but > no luck, I still can't get this account to start kde. Since I'm > writing this from another (new to gutsy) account, there's nothing > apparently wrong with the kde installation. > > Any ideas how to get back to kde on the first account? > Paul Looks like a mismatch on the user's UID numbers. Try: System Settings --> User Management and correct as needed. Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux (Kubuntu 7.04) ********* From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 12:55:37 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:55:37 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (Even more progress) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252231.51430.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <2190254.rK7gV31Hcr@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 9:05:56 pm David McGlone wrote: >> On Thursday 25 October 2007 8:05:49 pm David McGlone wrote: >> > On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> > > David McGlone wrote: >> >> I sent some mail and somehow 3 messages ended up in my postfix Queue, >> when I open the Queue to look at the messages, it says under status: mail >> transport unavailable. >> >> Hmmm, I thought postfix was my mail transport agent. > > Well I figured this out. Problem was I don't have sendmail installed and I > was using sendmail to send the messages instead of procmail. That doesn't sound right. You have postfix, that provides "/usr/bin/sendmail". Procmail doesn't _send_ messages (afaik) it delivers the local messages. I'm not sure what postfix means by "mail transport unavailable" but my guess is that it's supposed to be doing "smart hosting" (routing through your ISP) and the route to your ISP isn't correctly configured. Start by sending a mail to yourself. If that gets stuck in the queue, nothing's working. If that gets delivered, see if you can read it. It seems to me you have two problems - reading mail that actually got delivered, and sending mail. I still don't know what you have fetchmail handing off the mail to - procmail or SMTP? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 12:50:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:50:18 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (progress) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710251836.58817.d.mcglone@att.net> <198901517.F8kKBV8jf6@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <2892147.TiCWr7WSV8@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> David McGlone wrote: > >> > Ok so far, I *think* I have fetchmail working, it seems to be >> > retrieving my mail, but heck I can't find the mail anywhere. When I >> > look in /var/mail it says there are messages for dmcglone but when I >> > try to read them they disappear like Chris Angel :-) >> >> What precisely do you have in /var/mail? Under no circumstances should >> you be using mbox files - there's simply no good reason to use them these >> days >> for anything but an archive. Set up delivery to Maildir directories. >> Then under /var/mail/dmcglone (or whatever) you should see "new", "cur" >> and "tmp" directories. In the "new" one, there'll be one file per >> message - until you look at them in a mail program, when they'll get >> moved to "cur" > > In /var/mail there is just one empty text file:dmcglone > > How would you suggest creating a maildir mailbox? What are you using for mail delivery? In postfix, iirc, you just tell it to deliver to /var/mail/$USER/, instead of /var/mail/$USER (the slash indicating a directory, and therefore Maildir). I never used procmail, but I think maildrop asked in the debconf settings. > I use webmin by the way, have you tried it? No. >> > after I checked mail, I looked in mailbox and indeed there was 1 >> > message, >> >> How? > > I wish I knew, but when I checked /var/mail it said there was mail for > dmcglone when I clicked on it the mail disappeared. Sorry, I know better than to be so terse. I meant, how did you look in the mailbox? I presume you mean you opened it with a mail program, but which one? I'm not sure what difference that actually makes, but we can't diagnose it if we have no idea what program you're using. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 13:02:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:02:07 -0300 Subject: kde problem on gutsy References: <102620071009.24175.4721BCDD000E71E400005E6F2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <200710261246.09955.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <1627009.76tlSpJyAr@cedar.serverforest.com> Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 12:09:33 pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: >> I just did a mostly clean install of gutsy. As in previous >> "upgrades", I allowed the installer to reformat / partition while >> leaving intact the /home partition. Thus all my user directories >> are preserved intact. Now however, I can't login to one of my >> user accounts through kdm. After entering the username and >> password, I get an error window (an unadorned X dialog box) >> telling me that startkdeconfig won't run (don't recall the exact >> wording). After selecting the OK button to clear the dialog box, >> the system thinks for a few seconds and then dumps me back to the >> kdm login screen. I can login to the same account using another >> window manager, and I've tried renaming the .kde directory, but >> no luck, I still can't get this account to start kde. Since I'm >> writing this from another (new to gutsy) account, there's nothing >> apparently wrong with the kde installation. >> >> Any ideas how to get back to kde on the first account? Reboot ? (I know that's so not linuxish, but see below) > Looks like a mismatch on the user's UID numbers. Try: > System Settings --> User Management > and correct as needed. My guess, too. Alternatively, "sudo chown -R user.user /home/user" Also, delete anything in /tmp related to that user (my guess is that it's kde-user or ksocket-user, since it's only a KDE problem - which is why reboot might work). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 12:56:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:56:26 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (Even more progress) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252105.56824.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252231.51430.d.mcglone@att.net> <47216A29.5040105@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <4771073.Nim6a9f4tW@cedar.serverforest.com> Rick Knight wrote: > David McGlone wrote: >> On Thursday 25 October 2007 9:05:56 pm David McGlone wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 25 October 2007 8:05:49 pm David McGlone wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >>>> >>>>> David McGlone wrote: >>>>> >>> I sent some mail and somehow 3 messages ended up in my postfix Queue, >>> when I open the Queue to look at the messages, it says under status: >>> mail transport unavailable. >>> >>> Hmmm, I thought postfix was my mail transport agent. >>> >> >> Well I figured this out. Problem was I don't have sendmail installed and >> I was using sendmail to send the messages instead of procmail. >> >> I'm back to square 1. Fetchmail seems to be getting my mail, but then >> it's just getting lost in la la land. >> >> >> >> > OK. You didn't have sendmail installed. Why not install it now? He does. He has postfix. -- derek From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 13:57:22 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:57:22 -0400 Subject: Problems with Installation fixed Message-ID: After installing both Ubuntu Gutsy amd64 then trying Kubuntu amd64 Gutsy on my Acer Aspire 7520-5115 And having no success with getting the Nvidia interface to work properly, I have solved the problem. Acer Specs : AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile technology TL-58 / 1.6 GHz Display 17" TFT active matrix 1440 x 900 ( WXGA+ ) 24-bit (16.7 million colors) 24-bit CrystalBrite NVIDIA GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M NVIDIA GeForce Go 7000M 256MB Solution: Installed Paldo Linux - It installed flawless and I get 1440x900 resolution. The best I got with Ubuntu was 640x480 and it looked terrible. Unfortunately I still cannot get the integrated camera or wireless to work. I guess Linux in general is just not able to deal with these drivers yet. Camera Acer Orbi-cam (m560x driver), Wireless Atheros 5006/7 Wifi Card AT LEAST I can See with extreme clarity and detail my 17" LCD. And can work in the Linux environment instead of Microstuffed. I did try everything I could find to get the Nvidia interface to work in Ubuntu but it just does not work well enough to take advantage of the higher resolutions. 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K, From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Fri Oct 26 14:51:10 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl Vanwynsberghe) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:51:10 +0200 Subject: Proprietary Drivers In-Reply-To: <200710261638.24543.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710261638.24543.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710261651.10369.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Friday 26 October 2007 16:38:24 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > A question (what else...) > > I'm using a ATI mobility radion X600 card. > > Now that Kubuntu also offers the choice of proprietary drivers the > following is not verry clear > What driver will be installed on my system? > Wil this driver be updated with for example the today updated 8.42.3 driver > with support for Accelerated Indirect Rendering (AIGLX)? > > > I assume i will be needing this driver for compiz-fusion? > > K, By the way, will this resolve the "Gutsy - No splash screen" problem? From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 14:31:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:31:56 -0300 Subject: Problems with Installation fixed References: Message-ID: <2948684.jrSdkItW3b@cedar.serverforest.com> Phil Pinkerton wrote: > I would like someday to return to Ubuntu I think it is wonderful, but not > quite ready for todays less expensive laptops. It's quite ready for the _less_ expensive laptops. I just bought an HP DV6000 for under $600. Not having a need for high-end graphics, I was only looking for Intel i9xx video, and _everything_ works. Wireless worked, first try, with ndiswrapper. Sound worked out of the box. The webcam (Microdia) only worked with luvcview under Feisty, but Gutsy supports it in Kopete, at least - I haven't had any success with mplayer and ekiga yet. So, note that this only fully worked under a 1-week-old version of Linux. That's pretty much par for the course in the Linux world. Since we have to wait for the devices to be commercially available before Linux developers can write the drivers for them, we're never going to be able to run on all the cutting edge hardware, and when you can't get something working in one distro, the odds are good that it _will_ work with another - but just as good that something else won't. -- derek From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 15:14:34 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: further fixes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <156396.52927.qm@web59302.mail.re1.yahoo.com> yes, karl, that is where i run into the problem, i can find the device in HAL, but following your suggested cource all i get is hiram at hiram-desktop:~$ sudo blkid -c /dev/null /dev/sda1: UUID="c03e72fc-f3c3-4259-8580-346b6d96363a" TYPE="ext2" /dev/sda2: UUID="d3500f63-250e-45cd-82c4-46d1dbfd40fe" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap" UUID="7c065fcc-acba-45af-a36c-51cb3f5b2fbe" thanks though, let me know if you think of anything else, i'll check the fstab a bit closer when i get the time after work. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 15:20:42 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:20:42 -0400 Subject: Problems with Installation fixed In-Reply-To: <2948684.jrSdkItW3b@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <2948684.jrSdkItW3b@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 10/26/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Phil Pinkerton wrote: > > > I would like someday to return to Ubuntu I think it is wonderful, but > not > > quite ready for todays less expensive laptops. > > It's quite ready for the _less_ expensive laptops. I just bought an HP > DV6000 for under $600. Not having a need for high-end graphics, I was > only > looking for Intel i9xx video, and _everything_ works. > > Wireless worked, first try, with ndiswrapper. > Sound worked out of the box. > The webcam (Microdia) only worked with luvcview under Feisty, but Gutsy > supports it in Kopete, at least - I haven't had any success with mplayer > and ekiga yet. > > So, note that this only fully worked under a 1-week-old version of Linux. > That's pretty much par for the course in the Linux world. Since we have > to > wait for the devices to be commercially available before Linux developers > can write the drivers for them, we're never going to be able to run on all > the cutting edge hardware, and when you can't get something working in one > distro, the odds are good that it _will_ work with another - but just as > good that something else won't. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Well good for you. Though it has nothing to do with my laptop ( under $700 ) and I do need the graphics and I do have it, just not with Unbubntu. Not that it matters but I have been using Linux since Slackware 1.0 and am a very dedicated Linux user having installed and tested over 300 distros as of this year. -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nixternal at kubuntu.org Fri Oct 26 15:37:18 2007 From: nixternal at kubuntu.org (Richard A. 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Stemle, Jr.) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:09:23 -0500 Subject: Virtual Folders in Kmail In-Reply-To: <200710261155.46915.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710261155.46915.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710261109.24084.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:55:46 Richard wrote: > Can one setup a virtual folder for a subject or email address, in kmail, > have that vfolder display under Local Folder as a normal folder ? > > > Thanks - > Richard You can do filtering and rules if you want. From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Fri Oct 26 16:27:06 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:27:06 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed Message-ID: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Hi all: I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to convert them to a standard format? TIA -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 16:34:55 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:34:55 +0100 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: I use KMplayer or VLC to play them with no problems. I havent bothered to convert them so cant offer any advice there Regards, Marty. On 10/26/07, Ralph De Witt wrote: > > Hi all: > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > convert them to a standard format? TIA > -- > Yours, > Ralph. > It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 > Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt > jabber.org > ralphdewitt > GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net > Key id = 3097 3BC4 > Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic > Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Johnson: > On Friday 26 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > | A question (what else...) > | > | I'm using a ATI mobility radion X600 card. > | > | Now that Kubuntu also offers the choice of proprietary drivers the > | following is not verry clear > | What driver will be installed on my system? > | Wil this driver be updated with for example the today updated 8.42.3 > | driver with support for Accelerated Indirect Rendering (AIGLX)? > > 8.37 > > | I assume i will be needing this driver for compiz-fusion? > > You don't need it. I use the free/open source driver with Compiz-Fusion > just fine. ==>with ATI X600 ? If so... what guide did you use? From mdhirsch at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 16:46:50 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:46:50 -0600 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710260946j673784e6wb46e37b39f1f3c01@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/07, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > Hi, > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. I get to plug my solution. It's a KDE Service Menu which can be found here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/resizePhotos?content=49611 It's just a simple shell script (but with GUI feedback!). if you install it in the right place, puts an "Action" on the right-click menu to resize the photos. I use it all the time, and so does my wife. Give it a try. Michael Here's the description: resizePhoto is a nice service menu to resize your photos to a size suitable for emailing. It will resize any picture so that it is no more than 640 pixels on a side while preserving the aspect ration. This size can easily be changed by editing a text file. You can resize any number of photos simultaneously by multiselecting them in Konqueror, then choosing the "Resize Photo" service menu. A dialog will display the progress. The dialog has a cancel button. Usage: Open a folder containing some image files (.png, .jpg, .gif) in Konqueror. Select one or several of these files. Right-click one of the selected file and select Action->Resize Photo. (See first screenshot.) A dialog will appear showing the progress of the resizing. (See second screenshot.) Press cancel if you so desire. A folder named "Sized" will appear in the image folder. The resized photos are in that folder. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Fri Oct 26 17:33:01 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:33:01 +0200 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200710261933.01317.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> If you main "wmf" then you have to install win32codecs. Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: > Hi all: > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > convert them to a standard format? TIA > -- > Yours, > Ralph. > It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 > Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt > jabber.org ralphdewitt > GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net > Key id = 3097 3BC4 > Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic > Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Fri Oct 26 17:38:43 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:38:43 +0200 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200710261938.43377.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Try "medibuntu". www.medibuntu.org Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: > Hi all: > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > convert them to a standard format? TIA > -- > Yours, > Ralph. > It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 > Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt > jabber.org ralphdewitt > GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net > Key id = 3097 3BC4 > Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic > Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. From slewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 26 17:40:45 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:40:45 -0400 Subject: Proprietary Drivers In-Reply-To: <200710261037.26947.nixternal@kubuntu.org> References: <200710261638.24543.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710261037.26947.nixternal@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <4722269D.4030006@bmts.com> Richard A. Johnson wrote: > You don't need it. I use the free/open source driver with Compiz-Fusion just > fine. I'm still interested in this question. I need to use the propriety driver for games and 3D applications, but would also like to use compiz. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 17:14:36 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:14:36 -0300 Subject: Problems with Installation fixed References: <2948684.jrSdkItW3b@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <2128723.gHLMeRsUio@cedar.serverforest.com> Phil Pinkerton wrote: > Well good for you. Though it has nothing to do with my laptop ( under $700 > ) and I do need the graphics and I do have it, just not with Unbubntu. Not > that it matters but I have been using Linux since Slackware 1.0 and am a > very dedicated Linux user having installed and tested over 300 distros as > of this year. You buy a laptop with known problem hardware, and then you cry that Ubuntu isn't working on it. Tough. If you're such a dedicated Linux user, you should know better. -- derek From tim at johnsons-web.com Fri Oct 26 18:16:59 2007 From: tim at johnsons-web.com (Tim Johnson) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:16:59 -0800 Subject: Making firefox the default browser In-Reply-To: <47219FA6.1020901@gmail.com> References: <200710251654.37737.tim@johnsons-web.com> <47219FA6.1020901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710261016.59445.tim@johnsons-web.com> On Friday 26 October 2007, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > have you tried System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser > setting? Yes. Firefox loads from a link, but not from MC, as it did on feisty. thanks tim From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Fri Oct 26 18:13:15 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:13:15 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261938.43377.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710261938.43377.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710261413.15499.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: > Try "medibuntu". > www.medibuntu.org > > Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: > > Hi all: > > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > > convert them to a standard format? TIA > > -- > > Yours, > > Ralph. > > It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 > > Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt > > jabber.org ralphdewitt > > GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net > > Key id = 3097 3BC4 > > Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic > > Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. Karl: Thanks for help. Have win32codecs installed, have mplayer installed, installed xine, but still unable to open files. When I click on file and say open with kmplayer, nothing shows it says mplayer not running. If I select open with xine no pictures. Any help as to configuration etc? TIA -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 4:40, days user hours minutes. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 26 17:26:41 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:26:41 -0300 Subject: Virtual Folders in Kmail References: <200710261155.46915.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8026002.gFdDxoHDM4@cedar.serverforest.com> Richard wrote: > Can one setup a virtual folder for a subject or email address, in kmail, > have that vfolder display under Local Folder as a normal folder ? Interesting question - and one I'm not at all sure of the answer to. In the latest version of KMail that comes with Gutsy, you can (a) do a search; (b) move the results of the search to your favourites (which is definitely a kind of virtual folder); (c) move the search results to your local folders - which actually makes it a physical folder, with copies of the contents of the virtual folder. I'm fairly certain that if you get new mail that would have matched the search, though, there is no updating of the virtual folder - for that to work, you'd need to use filtering into physical folders. -- derek From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 18:27:15 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:15 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710260946j673784e6wb46e37b39f1f3c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710260946j673784e6wb46e37b39f1f3c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: All these are very nice but that do you use in firefox? Douglas On 10/26/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > On 10/24/07, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > > resize all the pitures. > > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > I get to plug my solution. It's a KDE Service Menu which can be found > here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/resizePhotos?content=49611 > > It's just a simple shell script (but with GUI feedback!). if you > install it in the right place, puts an "Action" on the right-click > menu to resize the photos. > > I use it all the time, and so does my wife. Give it a try. > > Michael > > Here's the description: > resizePhoto is a nice service menu to resize your photos to a size > suitable for emailing. It will resize any picture so that it is no > more than 640 pixels on a side while preserving the aspect ration. > This size can easily be changed by editing a text file. > > You can resize any number of photos simultaneously by multiselecting > them in Konqueror, then choosing the "Resize Photo" service menu. > > A dialog will display the progress. The dialog has a cancel button. > > Usage: > Open a folder containing some image files (.png, .jpg, .gif) in Konqueror. > > Select one or several of these files. > > Right-click one of the selected file and select Action->Resize Photo. > (See first screenshot.) > > A dialog will appear showing the progress of the resizing. (See second > screenshot.) Press cancel if you so desire. > > A folder named "Sized" will appear in the image folder. The resized > photos are in that folder. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 18:37:33 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:37:33 -0400 Subject: Problems with Installation fixed In-Reply-To: <2128723.gHLMeRsUio@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <2948684.jrSdkItW3b@cedar.serverforest.com> <2128723.gHLMeRsUio@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 10/26/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Phil Pinkerton wrote: > > > Well good for you. Though it has nothing to do with my laptop ( under > $700 > > ) and I do need the graphics and I do have it, just not with Unbubntu. > Not > > that it matters but I have been using Linux since Slackware 1.0 and am a > > very dedicated Linux user having installed and tested over 300 distros > as > > of this year. > > You buy a laptop with known problem hardware, and then you cry that Ubuntu > isn't working on it. Tough. If you're such a dedicated Linux user, you > should know better. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Who's Crying I have a solution and it is Linux. What you obviously don't know is that because I found a solution I can apply it to Ubuntu and make it better, that's what Linux is about. Narrow minded folks don't realize Linux is about choice and how it goes about evolving to be a better product. You need to learn that it is not about you or I it is about Linux. By making troublesome hardware work on Linux the product is improved. It is called contribution anyone can criticize, thety rest of us develop. or which ever one you can assimilate. -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 26 18:40:34 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:40:34 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition Message-ID: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> Hi, I want to experiment with other Linux distributions and with other OS's (BSD, etc.). Also, I would like to be able to test new versions of Kubuntu before using them on both my computers. I have herd some discussion on the Ubuntu sites about Virtual Machines, which I have never used, and that haves sparked some interest in me. I am even thinking about testing out using Win XP in a Virtual Machine instead of Dual Boot if that is possible. For the testing, would it be better for me to cut my hard drive up more (I have 5 partitions already) and throw the tests in the new partition or would a virtual machine be easier? I'm using a Inspiron 1501 laptop which haves a AMD 64 Athlon X2 running at a total of 1.6Ghz and with 1GB of RAM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and, don't worry, I have no intentions of Leaving Kubuntu :). I have tried Debian, PCLinux OS, and even a 6 month trip into Ubuntu, but I have always came back to the Kubuntu :). -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 18:49:07 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> Message-ID: Why not do both and do some benchmarks ? I use VMware on Linux and run Windows98 and XP there. My other partition has Vista (OEM) but I need to dual boot to that OS, Virtual is better as I can run my Windows98 legacy game in a window and do my Qcad work on Linux in another. Just a thought On 10/26/07, Scott wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to experiment with other Linux distributions and with other > OS's > (BSD, etc.). Also, I would like to be able to test new versions of > Kubuntu before using them on both my computers. I have herd some > discussion on the Ubuntu sites about Virtual Machines, which I have > never used, and that haves sparked some interest in me. I am even > thinking about testing out using Win XP in a Virtual Machine instead of > Dual Boot if that is possible. > > For the testing, would it be better for me to cut my hard drive up > more > (I have 5 partitions already) and throw the tests in the new partition > or would a virtual machine be easier? > > I'm using a Inspiron 1501 laptop which haves a AMD 64 Athlon X2 > running > at a total of 1.6Ghz and with 1GB of RAM. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and, don't worry, I > have > no intentions of Leaving Kubuntu :). I have tried Debian, PCLinux OS, > and even a 6 month trip into Ubuntu, but I have always came back to the > Kubuntu :). > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Why not do both and do some benchmarks ? I use VMware on Linux and run Windows98 and XP there. My other partition has Vista (OEM) but I need to dual boot to that OS, Virtual is better as I can run my Windows98 legacy game in a window and do my Qcad work on Linux in another. Just a thought -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 26 18:52:03 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:52:03 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (Fetchmail working) In-Reply-To: <2892147.TiCWr7WSV8@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710252005.49292.d.mcglone@att.net> <2892147.TiCWr7WSV8@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710261452.03183.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 8:50:18 am Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Thursday 25 October 2007 7:08:47 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > >> David McGlone wrote: > >> > Ok so far, I *think* I have fetchmail working, it seems to be > >> > retrieving my mail, but heck I can't find the mail anywhere. When I > >> > look in /var/mail it says there are messages for dmcglone but when I > >> > try to read them they disappear like Chris Angel :-) > >> > >> What precisely do you have in /var/mail? Under no circumstances should > >> you be using mbox files - there's simply no good reason to use them > >> these days > >> for anything but an archive. Set up delivery to Maildir directories. > >> Then under /var/mail/dmcglone (or whatever) you should see "new", "cur" > >> and "tmp" directories. In the "new" one, there'll be one file per > >> message - until you look at them in a mail program, when they'll get > >> moved to "cur" > > > > In /var/mail there is just one empty text file:dmcglone > > > > How would you suggest creating a maildir mailbox? > > What are you using for mail delivery? In postfix, iirc, you just tell it > to deliver to /var/mail/$USER/, instead of /var/mail/$USER (the slash > indicating a directory, and therefore Maildir). I never used procmail, but > I think maildrop asked in the debconf settings. > > > I use webmin by the way, have you tried it? > > No. > > >> > after I checked mail, I looked in mailbox and indeed there was 1 > >> > message, > >> > >> How? > > > > I wish I knew, but when I checked /var/mail it said there was mail for > > dmcglone when I clicked on it the mail disappeared. > > Sorry, I know better than to be so terse. No problem. > I meant, how did you look in the > mailbox? I presume you mean you opened it with a mail program, but which > one? I'm not sure what difference that actually makes, but we can't > diagnose it if we have no idea what program you're using. I don't think I can explain it. I am using webmin, and all I have to do is click on an icon in webmin to see all of the mailboxes for my system. did you know even fetchmail has a mailbox. :-) Anyway, So far I have managed to get fetchmail working. Here's how I did it: I took some of the the suggestion of Bruce Marshall (Thank you Bruce) and integrated it into my fetchmailrc, take a look: defaults         proto pop3         port 995         ssl         mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F -d %T poll pop.att.yahoo.com         auth password         user "d.mcglone at att.net" (at = @ I just changed for precaution of spam)         pass "ha ha your not getting"         keep Now that I can fetch mail, all that is basically left to do is configure multidrop or forwarding. And last configure either postfix or sendmail to deliver mail. I am not looking to use my own SMTP, since I can use AT&T's but I do need to configure local sending too, so for instance I can send messages to david at lappy or dmcglone at buddy, etc, etc So for this I'll probably set up 2 sending accounts 1 SMTP to send messages over the net using AT&T and one sendmail account to send messages to other users on the LAN locally. Maybe there's an easier way. What do you think? But anyway I have to keep in mind that my main goal is to use my server(buddy) to get the mail from AT&T and pass it on to the correct user. -- David M. From okkadiroglu at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 19:42:32 2007 From: okkadiroglu at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-9?Q?Osman_Kemal_Kadiro=F0lu?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:42:32 +0300 Subject: 7.10 Message-ID: Hi, Recently I wrote about my problem, that was the upgrading my notebook from 7.04 to 7.10. I downloaded kubuntu 7.10 CD and tried to install it on my notebook. Wireless did not worked. So I downloaded kubuntu 7.10 DVD and tried it with it. It works perfectly well. I have no idea why but it works. Regards -- Osman Kemal Kadiroglu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When fetchmail is running as a system daemon (rather than per-user), the default destination for mail is "fetchmail". Your fetchmailrc file needs to specify the "is USER here" phrase for the mailbox being fetched to tell it to deliver to USER, otherwise it goes to fetchmail. Also, I'd always set an alias in /etc/aliases for fetchmail to whatever account I use for admin mail (ie, all mail on my system for root, webmaster, mail, fetchmail, admin, etc, go to a single account). > > Anyway, So far I have managed to get fetchmail working. Here's how I did > it: > > I took some of the the suggestion of Bruce Marshall (Thank you Bruce) and > integrated it into my fetchmailrc, take a look: > > defaults > proto pop3 > port 995 > ssl > > mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F -d %T > > poll pop.att.yahoo.com > auth password > user "d.mcglone at att.net" (at = @ I just changed for precaution of > spam) should have: is dmcglone here (or whatever you use for your local account) unless that procmail command line expands out to a particular user account > pass "ha ha your not getting" > keep > Now that I can fetch mail, all that is basically left to do is configure > multidrop or forwarding. Are you really getting mail for multiple users from one mailbox? That's multidrop, and fairly awkward. Usually it's easier to just set up unique mailboxes, since email addresses are so easy to get these days. > > And last configure either postfix or sendmail to deliver mail. With postfix, it's just a debconf question - it'll ask how you want to configure mail sending, and you say "smart host", giving it your AT&T smtp server's address. -- derek From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Oct 26 20:09:18 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:09:18 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200710261609.18967.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 26 October 2007, Scott wrote: >         I'm using a Inspiron 1501 laptop which haves a AMD 64 Athlon X2 > running at a total of 1.6Ghz and with 1GB of RAM. I guess in my opinion, your laptop doesn't have enough horsepower to use a virtual environment. Yes you could get it to work, but I don't think you'd be happy with it. You didn't mention how much HD space you have available for this but the space requirements will be pretty much the same no matter what path you choose. I run XP in a vmware workstation but it is on a 2.8GHZ P4 and it is reasonable enough in performance.... but for real use, I turn to a similar machine running XP on the next desk. From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 26 20:19:44 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:19:44 +0200 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261413.15499.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710261938.43377.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710261413.15499.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <47224BE0.6030703@gmx.net> Ralph De Witt wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: >> Try "medibuntu". >> www.medibuntu.Borg >> >> Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: >>> Hi all: >>> I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia >>> files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would >>> like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can >>> anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to >>> convert them to a standard format? TIA >>> -- >>> Yours, >>> Ralph. >>> It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 >>> Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt >>> jabber.org ralphdewitt >>> GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net >>> Key id = 3097 3BC4 >>> Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic >>> Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. > Karl: > Thanks for help. Have win32codecs installed, have mplayer installed, installed > xine, but still unable to open files. When I click on file and say open with > kmplayer, nothing shows it says mplayer not running. If I select open with > xine no pictures. Any help as to configuration etc? TIA > > One way to get more information is to start mplayer from the commandline. In a terminal, run this: "mplayer NamOfMediafile.wmf". Else, click on the file and say open with kmplayer, in the kmplayer menu, go to "view" and select "Console", the appearance will change and you will get a few lines of textual information. Check this for any errors, or post it. Mike From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Oct 26 21:08:38 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:08:38 -0400 Subject: Mail Server (Fetchmail working) In-Reply-To: <3662603.Gp8TMOA6pc@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710261452.03183.d.mcglone@att.net> <3662603.Gp8TMOA6pc@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710261708.38209.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 3:27:30 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > >> I meant, how did you look in the > >> mailbox? I presume you mean you opened it with a mail program, but > >> which one? I'm not sure what difference that actually makes, but we > >> can't diagnose it if we have no idea what program you're using. > > > > I don't think I can explain it. I am using webmin, and all I have to do > > is click on an icon in webmin to see all of the mailboxes for my system. > > did you know even fetchmail has a mailbox. :-) > > Well, yes, and not really... ime, if mail is getting delivered > to "fetchmail", it's probably an error. When fetchmail is running as a > system daemon (rather than per-user), the default destination for mail > is "fetchmail". Your fetchmailrc file needs to specify the "is USER here" > phrase for the mailbox being fetched to tell it to deliver to USER, > otherwise it goes to fetchmail. Also, I'd always set an alias > in /etc/aliases for fetchmail to whatever account I use for admin mail (ie, > all mail on my system for root, webmaster, mail, fetchmail, admin, etc, go > to a single account). LOL I was being sarcastic about the fetchmail mailbox. :-) > > > Anyway, So far I have managed to get fetchmail working. Here's how I did > > it: > > > > I took some of the the suggestion of Bruce Marshall (Thank you Bruce) and > > integrated it into my fetchmailrc, take a look: > > > > defaults > > proto pop3 > > port 995 > > ssl > > > > mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f %F -d %T > > > > poll pop.att.yahoo.com > > auth password > > user "d.mcglone at att.net" (at = @ I just changed for precaution of > > spam) > > should have: > is dmcglone here > (or whatever you use for your local account) unless that procmail command > line expands out to a particular user account > > > pass "ha ha your not getting" > > keep > > > > Now that I can fetch mail, all that is basically left to do is configure > > multidrop or forwarding. > > Are you really getting mail for multiple users from one mailbox? That's > multidrop, and fairly awkward. Usually it's easier to just set up unique > mailboxes, since email addresses are so easy to get these days. Not yet. I haven't got past configuration for 1 user yet... LOL What I am aiming for is to get mail for me and my wife and kids from AT&T which they each have an individual e-mail address, and stick it in their mailbox's on my server and then they will be able to read it either on the desktop (which is also the server) or on the laptop > > > And last configure either postfix or sendmail to deliver mail. > > With postfix, it's just a debconf question - it'll ask how you want to > configure mail sending, and you say "smart host", giving it your AT&T smtp > server's address. Hmmm, how did you answer this question? did you run debconf or..... Is procmail and postfix the same thing? -- David M. From slewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 26 22:44:03 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:44:03 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> Message-ID: <47226DB3.2010902@bmts.com> Phil Pinkerton wrote: > Why not do both and do some benchmarks ? That may be a good idea for the win xp that I have because I already have it installed on a separate partition. What is a good way to benchmark in both the Virtual Machine and in the win xp? Also, is there any good documentation on doing win XP in a VM in Kubuntu? My win xp is a OEM install and Dell put the disc in a separate partition. Is it possible to use that separate partition to install in a virtual machine? > My other partition has Vista (OEM) but I need to dual boot to that OS, > Virtual is better as I can run my Windows98 legacy game in a window and > do my Qcad work on Linux in another. That is one of the things that make using a virtual machine appealing. The ability to play my windows games while using Kopete and the like in the background. When I boot into windows to play games I don't like to use the internet that much, so I have nothing running. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From slewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 26 22:44:22 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:44:22 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <200710261609.18967.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> <200710261609.18967.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <47226DC6.2000608@bmts.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > I guess in my opinion, your laptop doesn't have enough horsepower to use a > virtual environment. Yes you could get it to work, but I don't think you'd > be happy with it. > > You didn't mention how much HD space you have available for this but the space > requirements will be pretty much the same no matter what path you choose. I have 80gigs, which I find to be a huge amount of space. It is enough that I get lazy and never delete anything :) At the moment, I have 30 gigs free. > I run XP in a vmware workstation but it is on a 2.8GHZ P4 and it is > reasonable enough in performance.... but for real use, I turn to a similar > machine running XP on the next desk. I probably stated my computer's speed wrong. I mentioned its number of cycles per second. Its rated speed, when compared to Pentiums, is either 2.8+Ghz or 3.0Ghz+. I can't remember for sure as my CPU speed monitor states the actual cycles. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 23:49:07 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> Message-ID: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Scott wrote: > Hi, > > I want to experiment with other Linux distributions and with other > OS's > (BSD, etc.). Also, I would like to be able to test new versions of > > Kubuntu before using them on both my computers. I have herd some > discussion on the Ubuntu sites about Virtual Machines, which I have > > never used, and that haves sparked some interest in me. I am even > thinking about testing out using Win XP in a Virtual Machine > instead of > Dual Boot if that is possible. > > For the testing, would it be better for me to cut my hard drive up > more > (I have 5 partitions already) and throw the tests in the new > partition > or would a virtual machine be easier? > > I'm using a Inspiron 1501 laptop which haves a AMD 64 Athlon X2 > running > at a total of 1.6Ghz and with 1GB of RAM. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and, don't worry, I > have > no intentions of Leaving Kubuntu :). I have tried Debian, PCLinux > OS, > and even a 6 month trip into Ubuntu, but I have always came back to > the > Kubuntu :). > Well, on the plus side of the virtual machine, Grub won't screw up your machine. You can dynamically allocate the partition size so you really use the space you need and no more. You can save snapshots and experiment and if your experiment breaks the install, you can go back to the last snapshot. You can run the virtual machine and the host simultaneously and move data between them. As for testing something before an install, the virtual machine probably won't have the same hardware you have. >From a personal point of view, I like the ability to run Win2K inside my Linux box the few times I've needed it. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From slewin at bmts.com Sat Oct 27 00:46:06 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:06 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47228A4E.5060800@bmts.com> Earl Violet wrote: > Well, on the plus side of the virtual machine, Grub won't screw up > your machine. You can dynamically allocate the partition size so you > really use the space you need and no more. You can save snapshots > and experiment and if your experiment breaks the install, you can go > back to the last snapshot. You can run the virtual machine and the > host simultaneously and move data between them. Ok, sounds nice. > > As for testing something before an install, the virtual machine > probably won't have the same hardware you have. So, for testing out new OS's and for the couple things I need from win a VM is good, but for testing new releases of Kubuntu I should use a different partition? I know I will need to benchmark the Windows XP in a VM as the couple things I need from windows are the few games I can't run in Kubuntu and games are resource hungry. But, the games I play are not as bad as most the average games. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From slewin at bmts.com Sat Oct 27 01:16:30 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:16:30 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4722916E.1020901@bmts.com> If I do decide to use a Virtual Machine, which Virtual Machine software would be best? I noticed there is more than one choice. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From cms0009 at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 02:09:55 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:09:55 -0400 Subject: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem Message-ID: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added thread messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have selected open thread that contain new message. under list options. All threads are still open, even when I closed them all in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that contain a new message. TIA Richard From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 27 02:35:44 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:35:44 -0400 Subject: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem In-Reply-To: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710262235.44546.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:09:55 pm Richard wrote: > there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added thread > messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have selected open > thread that contain new message. under list options. > > All threads are still open, even when I closed them all > in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? > > Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that > contain a new message. Hmmm. I've not run into that problem. been using threaded messages for a long time. are you using kmail or kontact? I'm using kontact, wonder if that makes any difference. I doubt it because kontact is basically a wrapper for kmail. Never know. -- David M. From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Sat Oct 27 02:43:55 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:43:55 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <47224BE0.6030703@gmx.net> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710261413.15499.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <47224BE0.6030703@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Ralph De Witt wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: > >> Try "medibuntu". > >> www.medibuntu.Borg > >> > >> Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: > >>> Hi all: > >>> I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some > >>> multimedia files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not > >>> opening. I would like to get these to open and then convert them to a > >>> standard format. Can anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then > >>> what I have to do to convert them to a standard format? TIA > >>> -- > >>> Yours, > >>> Ralph. > >>> It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 > >>> Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt > >>> jabber.org ralphdewitt > >>> GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net > >>> Key id = 3097 3BC4 > >>> Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic > >>> Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. > > > > Karl: > > Thanks for help. Have win32codecs installed, have mplayer installed, > > installed xine, but still unable to open files. When I click on file and > > say open with kmplayer, nothing shows it says mplayer not running. If I > > select open with xine no pictures. Any help as to configuration etc? TIA > > One way to get more information is to start mplayer from the > commandline. In a terminal, run this: "mplayer NamOfMediafile.wmf". > Else, click on the file and say open with kmplayer, in the kmplayer > menu, go to "view" and select "Console", the appearance will change and > you will get a few lines of textual information. Check this for any > errors, or post it. > > Mike Mike: This is what I get selecting a random file and choosing to open with kmplayer. Hope this helps some. I am running on a Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop. MPlayer 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, Stepping: 6) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory Can't init input joystick mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Terminal type `unknown' is not defined. Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll libavformat file format detected. [mp3 @ 0x86fdf28]Could not find codec parameters (Audio: mp1, 448 kb/s) LAVF_header: av_find_stream_info() failed Exiting... (End of file) -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 13:12, days user hours minutes. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 27 03:01:57 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:01:57 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <47224BE0.6030703@gmx.net> <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200710262301.57814.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:43:55 pm Ralph De Witt wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > > Ralph De Witt wrote: > > > On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: Ralph, have you tried using kaffeine? -- David M. From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Sat Oct 27 03:11:46 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:11:46 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710262301.57814.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710262301.57814.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710262311.47053.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Friday 26 October 2007 23:01:57 David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:43:55 pm Ralph De Witt wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > > > Ralph De Witt wrote: > > > > On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: > > Ralph, have you tried using kaffeine? > > -- > David M. David: No plugin found for this file type found or some thing simiular. Plus this in the details: 11:08:56 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/diesel/multimeda/Christian/ICHR2014.WMF< 11:08:56 PM: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 13:40, days user hours minutes. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 03:29:11 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:29:11 -0400 Subject: Pen drive Ubuntu Message-ID: <4722B087.3040500@gmail.com> I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, following the instructions at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. Anybody else try this? stew From cms0009 at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 04:09:24 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:09:24 -0400 Subject: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem In-Reply-To: <200710262235.44546.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710262235.44546.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710270009.24588.cms0009@gmail.com> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:35:44 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:09:55 pm Richard wrote: > > there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added thread > > messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have selected open > > thread that contain new message. under list options. > > > > All threads are still open, even when I closed them all > > in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? > > > > Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that > > contain a new message. > > Hmmm. I've not run into that problem. been using threaded messages for a long > time. > > are you using kmail or kontact? I'm using kontact, wonder if that makes any > difference. I doubt it because kontact is basically a wrapper for kmail. > > Never know. > > -- > David M. > Using Kontact (K)ubntu 7.10 Richard From paulvarjak at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 07:46:57 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:46:57 +0200 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror Message-ID: <5e33e3860710270046v38498e74y8cab9b059aaba387@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I didn't know it was possible to handle zip files in konqueror writing in the address bar: zip:/path_of_the_file/file.zip Two questions: 1. is it possible to instruct conqueror to do this automatically when double-clicking in a zip file? 2. is there a plugin for rar files? rar:/path_of_the_file/file.rar doesn't work. Thanks a lot. Paul. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 27 08:48:49 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:48:49 +0100 Subject: Pen drive Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4722B087.3040500@gmail.com> References: <4722B087.3040500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710270948.49675.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 27 October 2007 04:29:11 Stew Schneider wrote: > I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, > following the instructions at > http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install >/ > > The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. > Anybody else try this? I've got one with 6.10 on it as the tutorial at the time didn't recommend using 7.04 due to the persistant feature not working. Might have to put 7.10 on it now. Thanks for the link. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 27 08:54:45 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:54:45 +0100 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200710270954.45274.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 26 October 2007 17:27:06 Ralph De Witt wrote: > Hi all: > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > convert them to a standard format? TIA If you really mean WMFs and not WMVs then you're using the wrong program to open them. WMFs are graphic files like SVG and can't be opened with mplayer etc. Looking at the one WMF I've got here, I can't even see a preview now which was working with 7.04. From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 27 09:03:17 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:03:17 +0100 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710270954.45274.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710270954.45274.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710271003.17515.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 27 October 2007 09:54:45 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 17:27:06 Ralph De Witt wrote: > > Hi all: > > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some multimedia > > files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not opening. I would > > like to get these to open and then convert them to a standard format. Can > > anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then what I have to do to > > convert them to a standard format? TIA > > If you really mean WMFs and not WMVs then you're using the wrong program to > open them. WMFs are graphic files like SVG and can't be opened with mplayer > etc. > > Looking at the one WMF I've got here, I can't even see a preview now which > was working with 7.04. Actually looks like Open Office draw will load them. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sat Oct 27 09:50:56 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:50:56 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710271150.57127.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> We've seen already a lot of good ideas. And i'm a bit surprized... I've tested digikam, gwenview and installed the konq-kim package. Digikam and gwenview areusing the same method. konq-kim does it's job in konquerer but actually adds a lot more than what "jo average" needs. Why isn't konquerer using the same method as digikam and gwenview? I'ts all KDE ins't it? Op Wednesday 24 October 2007 20:35:31 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > Hi, > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > resize all the pitures. > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > Thx for the info. > > Karl, From bach.michael at gmx.net Sat Oct 27 09:52:11 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:52:11 +0200 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710261413.15499.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <47224BE0.6030703@gmx.net> <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <47230A4B.6040104@gmx.net> Ralph De Witt wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: >> Ralph De Witt wrote: >>> On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: >>>> Try "medibuntu". >>>> www.medibuntu.Borg >>>> >>>> Op Friday 26 October 2007 18:27:06 schreef Ralph De Witt: >>>>> Hi all: >>>>> I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some >>>>> multimedia files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not >>>>> opening. I would like to get these to open and then convert them to a >>>>> standard format. Can anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then >>>>> what I have to do to convert them to a standard format? TIA >>>>> -- >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Ralph. >>>>> It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 >>>>> Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt >>>>> jabber.org ralphdewitt >>>>> GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net >>>>> Key id = 3097 3BC4 >>>>> Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic >>>>> Current Linux uptime: 2:53, days user hours minutes. >>> Karl: >>> Thanks for help. Have win32codecs installed, have mplayer installed, >>> installed xine, but still unable to open files. When I click on file and >>> say open with kmplayer, nothing shows it says mplayer not running. If I >>> select open with xine no pictures. Any help as to configuration etc? TIA >> One way to get more information is to start mplayer from the >> commandline. In a terminal, run this: "mplayer NamOfMediafile.wmf". >> Else, click on the file and say open with kmplayer, in the kmplayer >> menu, go to "view" and select "Console", the appearance will change and >> you will get a few lines of textual information. Check this for any >> errors, or post it. >> >> Mike > Mike: > This is what I get selecting a random file and choosing to open with kmplayer. > Hope this helps some. I am running on a Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop. > > MPlayer 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, > Stepping: 6) > CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 > Compiled with runtime CPU detection. > Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory > Can't init input joystick > mplayer: could not connect to socket > mplayer: No such file or directory > Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. > Terminal type `unknown' is not defined. > > Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: > avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll > libavformat file format detected. > [mp3 @ 0x86fdf28]Could not find codec parameters (Audio: mp1, 448 kb/s) > LAVF_header: av_find_stream_info() failed > > > Exiting... (End of file) > The errors in the first paragraph (from "MPlayer 2:1 ...." to "Terminal type ...") don't matter, they refer to possibly missing joystick or infra-red devices. The second paragraph reads like there might be actually something wrong with the sound. It seems that the problem is not caused by a missing library, rather something is not working properly with the actual library already on your system(avisynth.dll). Now, I cannot really help any more in fixing this particular problem. However, you may: - Try the VLC mediaplayer, it comes with its own codecs and does not depend as heavy on a codec collection such as xine or mplayer do. - Use the medibuntu [1] repository for updates on codecs. - Assume that maybe something has gone wrong while coding the file you have. Can you make us the file available or let us now where it comes from. Mike [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 27 12:17:32 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:17:32 -0400 Subject: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem In-Reply-To: <200710270009.24588.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710262235.44546.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710270009.24588.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710270817.32155.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 27 October 2007 12:09:24 am Richard wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:35:44 pm David McGlone wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:09:55 pm Richard wrote: > > > there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added > > > thread messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have > > > selected open thread that contain new message. under list options. > > > > > > All threads are still open, even when I closed them all > > > in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? > > > > > > Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that > > > contain a new message. > > > > Hmmm. I've not run into that problem. been using threaded messages for a > > long time. > > > > are you using kmail or kontact? I'm using kontact, wonder if that makes > > any difference. I doubt it because kontact is basically a wrapper for > > kmail. > > > > Never know. > > Using Kontact (K)ubntu 7.10 Same here. What version of kontact? I'm using 1.2.4 enterprise. Also, are you keeping kontact running in the system tray? Always? or just when you have new messages? Or do you close contact? In my case I always have it running in system tray. -- David M. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Oct 27 12:53:47 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:53:47 -0400 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710270046v38498e74y8cab9b059aaba387@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710270046v38498e74y8cab9b059aaba387@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710270853.47640.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 27 October 2007 3:46:57 am Paul wrote: > Hello. > > I didn't know it was possible to handle zip files in konqueror writing > in the address bar: > > zip:/path_of_the_file/file.zip > > Two questions: > > 1. is it possible to instruct conqueror to do this automatically when > double-clicking in a zip file? > > 2. is there a plugin for rar files? rar:/path_of_the_file/file.rar doesn't > work. unrar or unrar-free -- David M. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 27 16:18:05 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:18:05 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed In-Reply-To: <200710262311.47053.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710262243.56061.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710262301.57814.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710262311.47053.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <472364BD.8090206@sbcglobal.net> Ralph De Witt wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 23:01:57 David McGlone wrote: > >> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:43:55 pm Ralph De Witt wrote: >> >>> On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: >>> >>>> Ralph De Witt wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: >>>>> >> Ralph, have you tried using kaffeine? >> >> -- >> David M. >> > David: > No plugin found for this file type found or some thing simiular. Plus this in > the details: > > 11:08:56 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for > >> /home/diesel/multimeda/Christian/ICHR2014.WMF< >> > 11:08:56 PM: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin > A VLC multimedia player will work. From tim at johnsons-web.com Sat Oct 27 17:48:28 2007 From: tim at johnsons-web.com (Tim Johnson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:48:28 -0800 Subject: Making firefox the default browser - solved In-Reply-To: <200710261016.59445.tim@johnsons-web.com> References: <200710251654.37737.tim@johnsons-web.com> <47219FA6.1020901@gmail.com> <200710261016.59445.tim@johnsons-web.com> Message-ID: <200710270948.28439.tim@johnsons-web.com> On Friday 26 October 2007, Tim Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > have you tried System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser > > setting? > > Yes. Firefox loads from a link, but not from MC, as it did on feisty. > thanks > tim For MC, I needed to modify the mailcap entry for text/html. example: sudo vim /etc/mailcap change text/html; konqueror '%s'; nametemplate=%s.html; test=test "$DISPLAY" != "" to text/html; firefox '%s'; nametemplate=%s.html; test=test "$DISPLAY" != "" From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Sat Oct 27 17:57:46 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:57:46 -0600 Subject: prims 2.5 wavelan chipset Message-ID: <20071027115746.kuqewgrh4cg8c8g8@www.avefoodcoop.ca> I have had no success in getting this wireless card working on Kubuntu feisty on my IBM T30. From my browsing, I believe that the difficulty is that it is configured as wlan0 and I think it should be configured as eth0. Does anyone know how I go about doing this? Arthur From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 18:00:46 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:00:46 -0400 Subject: Pen drive Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200710270948.49675.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4722B087.3040500@gmail.com> <200710270948.49675.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <47237CCE.7050507@gmail.com> What kind of boot times are you experiencing? Five to six minutes just seems...well...wrong! stew Mark Fraser wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2007 04:29:11 Stew Schneider wrote: > >> I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, >> following the instructions at >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install >> / >> >> The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. >> Anybody else try this? >> > > I've got one with 6.10 on it as the tutorial at the time didn't recommend > using 7.04 due to the persistant feature not working. Might have to put 7.10 > on it now. Thanks for the link. > > > From paulvarjak at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 18:17:06 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Salva .) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:17:06 +0200 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror In-Reply-To: <200710270853.47640.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <5e33e3860710270046v38498e74y8cab9b059aaba387@mail.gmail.com> <200710270853.47640.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710271117u45c96cabv7167eac28964bfa8@mail.gmail.com> Hi David. Unrar or unrar-free? Can you be more specific? I know how to open a rar file but I would like to do it directly from konqueror. AFAIK unrar and unrar-free are programs to uncompress the files, but not konqueror plugins. Thanks. Paul. On 10/27/07, David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2007 3:46:57 am Paul wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I didn't know it was possible to handle zip files in konqueror writing > > in the address bar: > > > > zip:/path_of_the_file/file.zip > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1. is it possible to instruct conqueror to do this automatically when > > double-clicking in a zip file? > > > > 2. is there a plugin for rar files? rar:/path_of_the_file/file.rar doesn't > > work. > > unrar or unrar-free > > > -- > David M. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Oct 27 19:55:27 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:55:27 +0100 Subject: Pen drive Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <47237CCE.7050507@gmail.com> References: <4722B087.3040500@gmail.com> <200710270948.49675.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <47237CCE.7050507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710272055.27698.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 27 October 2007 19:00:46 Stew Schneider wrote: > Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 04:29:11 Stew Schneider wrote: > >> I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, > >> following the instructions at > >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-inst > >>all / > >> > >> The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. > >> Anybody else try this? > > > > I've got one with 6.10 on it as the tutorial at the time didn't recommend > > using 7.04 due to the persistant feature not working. Might have to put > > 7.10 on it now. Thanks for the link. > What kind of boot times are you experiencing? Five to six minutes just > seems...well...wrong! I can't remember now, it's been a while since I've used it. The website does say 7.10 takes a bit longer. Once I finish tidying up my 2 main computers after installing some new drives I'll give it a go. From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Oct 27 14:12:04 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:12:04 +0200 Subject: need to unplug USB drive Message-ID: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Hi, If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the "SanDisk" I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the drive not accessible at all for user B) But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and the setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. I also explored the system settings and got the access right bars ungreyed (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the disk ( and also managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) That was of no help because I could not make those permissions stick(y) Had no luck on Google either. Solutions: 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not work here") _simple but not elegant. 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to user B. _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. 3) su as A and use command lines to write. _my wife can't do that ;-) 4) ***What do you suggest?*** Thanks for pointers Perry -- BOFH excuse #306: CPU-angle has to be adjusted because of vibrations coming from the nearby road From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 27 21:46:04 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:46:04 +0200 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710271117u45c96cabv7167eac28964bfa8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710270046v38498e74y8cab9b059aaba387@mail.gmail.com> <200710270853.47640.d.mcglone@att.net> <5e33e3860710271117u45c96cabv7167eac28964bfa8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Salva . wrote the following on 27.10.2007 20:17 > Hi David. > > Unrar or unrar-free? Can you be more specific? I know how to open a > rar file but I would like to do it directly from konqueror. AFAIK > unrar and unrar-free are programs to uncompress the files, but not > konqueror plugins. > > Thanks. > Paul. The "plugin" to handle them inside konqi is "ark". When unrar is installed ark will be able to uncompress them. konqi -> right click on archive > uncompress here (or where ever you choose) bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 27 22:16:16 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:16:16 -0400 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710271816.17019.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 27 October 2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and > the setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** In looking, I think I've suggested this before, because this file looks familiar. I don't remember if the person I tried to help last time had any success or not. No clue. It looks like the file to edit to change what permissions these things get mounted with automatically is /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules There's a line in there: # USB devices (usbfs replacement) SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" I think I'd change that to read: # USB devices (usbfs replacement) #SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0000" And see if you magically get things mounted world writeable by everybody. I'm just pulling this out my ass though, and have no fricking idea if it's the right approach, or will even work. I haven't actually had more than one user on the same computer in a very long time, and have never run into your issue first-hand. So take these thoughts for what they're worth, which might be zippity doodah. -- D. Michael McIntyre From cms0009 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 00:00:54 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:00:54 -0400 Subject: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem In-Reply-To: <200710270817.32155.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200710262209.55714.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710270009.24588.cms0009@gmail.com> <200710270817.32155.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200710272000.55069.cms0009@gmail.com> On Saturday 27 October 2007 8:17:32 am David McGlone wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2007 12:09:24 am Richard wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:35:44 pm David McGlone wrote: > > > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:09:55 pm Richard wrote: > > > > there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added > > > > thread messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have > > > > selected open thread that contain new message. under list options. > > > > > > > > All threads are still open, even when I closed them all > > > > in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? > > > > > > > > Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that > > > > contain a new message. > > > > > > Hmmm. I've not run into that problem. been using threaded messages for a > > > long time. > > > > > > are you using kmail or kontact? I'm using kontact, wonder if that makes > > > any difference. I doubt it because kontact is basically a wrapper for > > > kmail. > > > > > > Never know. > > > > > Using Kontact (K)ubntu 7.10 > > Same here. What version of kontact? I'm using 1.2.4 enterprise. Also, are you > keeping kontact running in the system tray? Always? or just when you have new > messages? Or do you close contact? In my case I always have it running in > system tray. > Sames as you... No once I'm finished doing email I close the application... then when I re-open, its not still not-closing all the threads, and leaving only the ones, with NEW email open. Rich From almilis at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 01:23:07 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:23:07 +0700 Subject: How to restart services like youtube (sound) and usb (flashdisk) Message-ID: <36135600710271823oa670200r2945e8a7405a6ebd@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Once in the while my youtube (firefox/flash) will have no sound. This will usually happen after returning from a screen saver. Then, it will work again after exiting firefox (and sometimes rebooting). I tried to restart alsa-utils with no success. Is there any other way? Also, I am using an USB cable modem (Sci.Atlanta 2100). Sometimes, the system will not recognize the USB disk. Is there anyway to restart the USB service? regards, -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ From macariov at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 02:34:49 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:34:49 -0400 Subject: How to restart services like youtube (sound) and usb (flashdisk) In-Reply-To: <36135600710271823oa670200r2945e8a7405a6ebd@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600710271823oa670200r2945e8a7405a6ebd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193538889.15177.36.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 08:23 +0700, Ali Milis wrote: > Hi, > > Once in the while my youtube (firefox/flash) will have no sound. > This will usually happen after returning from a screen saver. > Then, it will work again after exiting firefox (and sometimes > rebooting). > > I tried to restart alsa-utils with no success. Is there any > other way? > > Also, I am using an USB cable modem (Sci.Atlanta 2100). > Sometimes, the system will not recognize the USB disk. > Is there anyway to restart the USB service? > > regards, > > -- > Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis > Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ > Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ > On a terminal window: cd /etc/init.d ls The resulting list of files is most of your services. to restart alsa: sudo /etc/init.d alsa-utils restart not sure which one would be for usb, as i undertand it various service mount usb devices. From ari_sarkar_1980 at yahoo.co.in Sun Oct 28 03:39:28 2007 From: ari_sarkar_1980 at yahoo.co.in (arijit sarkar) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:09:28 +0530 Subject: How to restart services like youtube (sound) and usb (flashdisk) In-Reply-To: <36135600710271823oa670200r2945e8a7405a6ebd@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600710271823oa670200r2945e8a7405a6ebd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193542768.12307.1.camel@mylinux.x64> On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 08:23 +0700, Ali Milis wrote: > Hi, > > Once in the while my youtube (firefox/flash) will have no sound. > This will usually happen after returning from a screen saver. > Then, it will work again after exiting firefox (and sometimes > rebooting). > > I tried to restart alsa-utils with no success. Is there any > other way? > edit the file, $ sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc replace "none" with "aoss". Save and exit restart firefox. Hopefully your sound problem will be solved. -- arijit sarkar Kolkata, India From art.alexion at verizon.net Sun Oct 28 05:48:57 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 01:48:57 -0400 Subject: Wine and the Internet In-Reply-To: <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200710280149.12449.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Wednesday, 03 October 2007 21:27, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through > >> the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? Should they or do they? They probably should, they most likely don't. I find that a lot of windows developers use internet explorer calls to access the internet. So if you don't have IE installed, they don't know how else to do it. Sometimes installing IE in wine solves the problem, sometime it doesn't. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From roger at rogerchrisman.com Sun Oct 28 07:23:33 2007 From: roger at rogerchrisman.com (Roger Chrisman) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:23:33 -0700 Subject: Folding.stanford.edu FAH on AMD64 box needs ia32-libs Message-ID: <200710280023.33417.roger@rogerchrisman.com> Running Gutsy Gibbon on my AMD64 box I had to install ia32-libs (was easy using Adept) to get folding.stanford.edu FAH to run. The error message I was getting was: Unable to execute ./fah6: No such file or directory or Unable to execute ./FAH502-Linux.exe: No such file or directory or Unable to execute ./FAH504-Linux.exe: No such file or directory depending which version of FAH I was trying to run. I guess they are all 32 bit programs. After installing ia32-libs with Adept package manager my AMD64 box now runs them fine. I got the idea this might require ia32-libs by Yahooing -- Google failed me so yes, I Yahooed: "Unable to execute ./fah6: No such file or directory" That took me to a blessed http://www.overclock.net forum page[1] that suggested installing ia32-libs and bliss, it works. Now my penguin is happily folding molecules again in its invisible head. Wish I could *see* it. Roger :-) From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Oct 28 08:28:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:28:37 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <47228A4E.5060800@bmts.com> References: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47228A4E.5060800@bmts.com> Message-ID: <47244835.8060102@gatech.edu> Scott wrote: > So, for testing out new OS's and for the couple things I need from win a > VM is good, but for testing new releases of Kubuntu I should use a > different partition? If you want to be sure all your real hardware works fully. But if you just want to try out some applications, the VM will work. Matt Flaschen From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Sun Oct 28 08:38:20 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:38:20 -0400 Subject: Help with multimedia files needed(Solution Found) In-Reply-To: <200710271003.17515.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710261227.06408.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200710270954.45274.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710271003.17515.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200710280438.20370.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Saturday 27 October 2007 05:03:17 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2007 09:54:45 Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 17:27:06 Ralph De Witt wrote: > > > Hi all: > > > I am running a up to date Gutsy system. While looking at some > > > multimedia files, I noticed that I have some WMF files that are not > > > opening. I would like to get these to open and then convert them to a > > > standard format. Can anyone tell me what codecs I need to download then > > > what I have to do to convert them to a standard format? TIA > > > > If you really mean WMFs and not WMVs then you're using the wrong program > > to open them. WMFs are graphic files like SVG and can't be opened with > > mplayer etc. > > > > Looking at the one WMF I've got here, I can't even see a preview now > > which was working with 7.04. > > Actually looks like Open Office draw will load them. Found out that Gimp will open render and convert the files. Seems the original problem still exixts. Win32codecs will not open these files anymore. OpenOffice Draw can also open these files and save them to its native format. Thanks for all the help. -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 10 days 1 hours minutes. From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Oct 28 10:35:34 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:35:34 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200710271816.17019.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <200710271816.17019.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200710281135.35301.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Sunday 28 October 2007 00:16, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and > > the setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > In looking, I think I've suggested this before, because this file looks > familiar. I don't remember if the person I tried to help last time had any > success or not. No clue. > > It looks like the file to edit to change what permissions these things get > mounted with automatically is /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules > > There's a line in there: > > # USB devices (usbfs replacement) > SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" > > I think I'd change that to read: > > # USB devices (usbfs replacement) > #SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" > SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0000" You probably mean MODE="0777" > > And see if you magically get things mounted world writeable by everybody. > > I'm just pulling this out my ass though, and have no fricking idea if it's > the right approach, or will even work. I haven't actually had more than > one user on the same computer in a very long time, and have never run into > your issue first-hand. > > So take these thoughts for what they're worth, which might be zippity > doodah. -- > D. Michael McIntyre Thanks, I didn't even know about this file,but that didn't work. I tried both with values higher or lower than 0664, with or without reboot, no change. No surprise after all because I always had 755 when the device was inserted. I made some "progress" though: I thought I should also set /media to 777. Setting /media/usbdisk to 777 always resulted in a message to the effect the modification was effective and that could be seen with ls or in Konk's window, *but* only as long as the device was not inserted (folder icon in Konk's). As soon as the device was inserted the icon turned into a "usb drive icon" and the permissions were back to 755...any attempt to chmod would pretend to success but fail (be overridden?) See the Konsole output_ ....perry at kubuntu:/$ chmod -c 777 /media/disk ....Le mode d'accès de `/media/disk' a été modifié à 0777 (rwxrwxrwx). ....perry at kubuntu:/$ ls -ld /media/disk ....drwxr-xr-x 4 perry root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/disk I still do not understand what happens when you mount a device, it appears as though the mount point is a placeholder that gets replaced by the mounted stuff. During my attemps I even accidently mounted the device directly unto /media. Took me a long time to figure out how to straighten things up and I was relived to see all the other drives that had dissepeared from /media (showing only the disk's content) then reappeared. Thanks Perry -- BOFH excuse #299: The data on your hard drive is out of balance From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 28 10:31:41 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:31:41 +0200 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <4724650D.6050101@rmk.co.il> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Hi, > > If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. > Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the "SanDisk" > > I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: > I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the drive not > accessible at all for user B) > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and the > setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > I also explored the system settings and got the access right bars ungreyed > (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the disk ( and also > managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) > That was of no help because I could not make those permissions stick(y) > Had no luck on Google either. > > > Solutions: > 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not work here") > _simple but not elegant. > 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to user B. > _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. > 3) su as A and use command lines to write. > _my wife can't do that ;-) > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > Thanks for pointers Perry > There is a similar problem with other auto-mounted media devices. The same thing happens with a data CD or a digital camera (USB). My daughters' computer will sometimes have 2 active users (with one of them having inserted a data CD) and then I come along (and log into my account) to do something with the cdrom and can't unmount it because there are already 2 users 'accessing' it. I try to eject/unmount it but get the 'Device in Use' message (or something similar) - so I switch users and try again only to get the same message. I have to log everybody out except for one user then eject/unmount it. There must be a better way to manage auto-mounted media devices. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com Sun Oct 28 10:43:52 2007 From: antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com (antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:43:52 +0100 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror Message-ID: I guess he wants to know if there is a kio slave for rar-files (that's what enables the address bar behaviour right?). I didn't find anything in the repositories... but here is something that looks like what you want. I havn't tested it or anything. Just what showed up in a quick google search: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kio_rar?content=17527 dertoni On 10/27/07, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem > (David McGlone) > 2. Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror (David McGlone) > 3. Re: Help with multimedia files needed (Steven Vollom) > 4. Re: Making firefox the default browser - solved (Tim Johnson) > 5. prims 2.5 wavelan chipset (Arthur Dyck) > 6. Re: Pen drive Ubuntu (Stew Schneider) > 7. Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror (Salva .) > 8. Re: Pen drive Ubuntu (Mark Fraser) > 9. need to unplug USB drive (Sylviane et Perry White) > 10. Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror (Thilo Six) > 11. Re: need to unplug USB drive (D. Michael McIntyre) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:17:32 -0400 > From: David McGlone > Subject: Re: to Thread of Not to Thread messages... a problem > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200710270817.32155.d.mcglone at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 12:09:24 am Richard wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:35:44 pm David McGlone wrote: > > > On Friday 26 October 2007 10:09:55 pm Richard wrote: > > > > there seems to be a glitch with kmail of Not opening JUST new added > > > > thread messages, instead all threads get open, Even thou I have > > > > selected open thread that contain new message. under list options. > > > > > > > > All threads are still open, even when I closed them all > > > > in all folders, is there a way to fix this ? > > > > > > > > Other words, if I open a folder, I should only see a thread open that > > > > contain a new message. > > > > > > Hmmm. I've not run into that problem. been using threaded messages for a > > > long time. > > > > > > are you using kmail or kontact? I'm using kontact, wonder if that makes > > > any difference. I doubt it because kontact is basically a wrapper for > > > kmail. > > > > > > Never know. > > > > > Using Kontact (K)ubntu 7.10 > > Same here. What version of kontact? I'm using 1.2.4 enterprise. Also, are you > keeping kontact running in the system tray? Always? or just when you have new > messages? Or do you close contact? In my case I always have it running in > system tray. > > > -- > David M. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:53:47 -0400 > From: David McGlone > Subject: Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200710270853.47640.d.mcglone at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 3:46:57 am Paul wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I didn't know it was possible to handle zip files in konqueror writing > > in the address bar: > > > > zip:/path_of_the_file/file.zip > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1. is it possible to instruct conqueror to do this automatically when > > double-clicking in a zip file? > > > > 2. is there a plugin for rar files? rar:/path_of_the_file/file.rar doesn't > > work. > > unrar or unrar-free > > > -- > David M. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:18:05 -0400 > From: Steven Vollom > Subject: Re: Help with multimedia files needed > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <472364BD.8090206 at sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ralph De Witt wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 23:01:57 David McGlone wrote: > > > >> On Friday 26 October 2007 10:43:55 pm Ralph De Witt wrote: > >> > >>> On Friday 26 October 2007 16:19:44 Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ralph De Witt wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Friday 26 October 2007 13:38:43 Karl wrote: > >>>>> > >> Ralph, have you tried using kaffeine? > >> > >> -- > >> David M. > >> > > David: > > No plugin found for this file type found or some thing simiular. Plus this in > > the details: > > > > 11:08:56 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for > > > >> /home/diesel/multimeda/Christian/ICHR2014.WMF< > >> > > 11:08:56 PM: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin > > > > A VLC multimedia player will work. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:48:28 -0800 > From: Tim Johnson > Subject: Re: Making firefox the default browser - solved > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200710270948.28439.tim at johnsons-web.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Friday 26 October 2007, Tim Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > have you tried System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser > > > setting? > > > > Yes. Firefox loads from a link, but not from MC, as it did on feisty. > > thanks > > tim > > For MC, I needed to modify the mailcap entry for text/html. > example: > sudo vim /etc/mailcap > change > text/html; konqueror '%s'; nametemplate=%s.html; > test=test "$DISPLAY" != "" > to > text/html; firefox '%s'; nametemplate=%s.html; test=test "$DISPLAY" != "" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:57:46 -0600 > From: Arthur Dyck > Subject: prims 2.5 wavelan chipset > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <20071027115746.kuqewgrh4cg8c8g8 at www.avefoodcoop.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > I have had no success in getting this wireless card working on Kubuntu > feisty on my IBM T30. From my browsing, I believe that the difficulty > is that it is configured as wlan0 and I think it should be configured > as eth0. Does anyone know how I go about doing this? > > Arthur > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:00:46 -0400 > From: Stew Schneider > Subject: Re: Pen drive Ubuntu > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <47237CCE.7050507 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > What kind of boot times are you experiencing? Five to six minutes just > seems...well...wrong! > > stew > > Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 04:29:11 Stew Schneider wrote: > > > >> I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, > >> following the instructions at > >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install > >> / > >> > >> The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. > >> Anybody else try this? > >> > > > > I've got one with 6.10 on it as the tutorial at the time didn't recommend > > using 7.04 due to the persistant feature not working. Might have to put 7.10 > > on it now. Thanks for the link. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:17:06 +0200 > From: "Salva ." > Subject: Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > > Message-ID: > <5e33e3860710271117u45c96cabv7167eac28964bfa8 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi David. > > Unrar or unrar-free? Can you be more specific? I know how to open a > rar file but I would like to do it directly from konqueror. AFAIK > unrar and unrar-free are programs to uncompress the files, but not > konqueror plugins. > > Thanks. > Paul. > > On 10/27/07, David McGlone wrote: > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 3:46:57 am Paul wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > I didn't know it was possible to handle zip files in konqueror writing > > > in the address bar: > > > > > > zip:/path_of_the_file/file.zip > > > > > > Two questions: > > > > > > 1. is it possible to instruct conqueror to do this automatically when > > > double-clicking in a zip file? > > > > > > 2. is there a plugin for rar files? rar:/path_of_the_file/file.rar doesn't > > > work. > > > > unrar or unrar-free > > > > > > -- > > David M. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:55:27 +0100 > From: Mark Fraser > Subject: Re: Pen drive Ubuntu > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200710272055.27698.kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 19:00:46 Stew Schneider wrote: > > Mark Fraser wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 04:29:11 Stew Schneider wrote: > > >> I had a 4G thumb drive with no plans for it, so installed Gutsy on it, > > >> following the instructions at > > >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-inst > > >>all / > > >> > > >> The installation wasn't troublesome, but I get boot times of 5+ minutes. > > >> Anybody else try this? > > > > > > I've got one with 6.10 on it as the tutorial at the time didn't recommend > > > using 7.04 due to the persistant feature not working. Might have to put > > > 7.10 on it now. Thanks for the link. > > > What kind of boot times are you experiencing? Five to six minutes just > > seems...well...wrong! > > I can't remember now, it's been a while since I've used it. The website does > say 7.10 takes a bit longer. Once I finish tidying up my 2 main computers > after installing some new drives I'll give it a go. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:12:04 +0200 > From: Sylviane et Perry White > Subject: need to unplug USB drive > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <200710271612.04427.spwhite at freesurf.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. > Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the "SanDisk" > > I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: > I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the drive not > accessible at all for user B) > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and the > setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > I also explored the system settings and got the access right bars ungreyed > (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the disk ( and also > managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) > That was of no help because I could not make those permissions stick(y) > Had no luck on Google either. > > > Solutions: > 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not work here") > _simple but not elegant. > 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to user B. > _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. > 3) su as A and use command lines to write. > _my wife can't do that ;-) > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > Thanks for pointers Perry > > -- > BOFH excuse #306: CPU-angle has to be adjusted because of vibrations coming > from the nearby road > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:46:04 +0200 > From: Thilo Six > Subject: Re: handling zip and rar with konqueror > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Salva . wrote the following on 27.10.2007 20:17 > > Hi David. > > > > Unrar or unrar-free? Can you be more specific? I know how to open a > > rar file but I would like to do it directly from konqueror. AFAIK > > unrar and unrar-free are programs to uncompress the files, but not > > konqueror plugins. > > > > Thanks. > > Paul. > > The "plugin" to handle them inside konqi is "ark". > When unrar is installed ark will be able to uncompress them. > > konqi -> right click on archive > uncompress here (or where ever you choose) > > bye > -- > Thilo > > key: 0x4A411E09 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:16:16 -0400 > From: "D. Michael McIntyre" > Subject: Re: need to unplug USB drive > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200710271816.17019.michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 27 October 2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for user B and > > the setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > In looking, I think I've suggested this before, because this file looks > familiar. I don't remember if the person I tried to help last time had any > success or not. No clue. > > It looks like the file to edit to change what permissions these things get > mounted with automatically is /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules > > There's a line in there: > > # USB devices (usbfs replacement) > SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" > > I think I'd change that to read: > > # USB devices (usbfs replacement) > #SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0664" > SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0000" > > And see if you magically get things mounted world writeable by everybody. > > I'm just pulling this out my ass though, and have no fricking idea if it's the > right approach, or will even work. I haven't actually had more than one user > on the same computer in a very long time, and have never run into your issue > first-hand. > > So take these thoughts for what they're worth, which might be zippity doodah. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > End of kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 33, Issue 111 > ********************************************** > From antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com Sun Oct 28 12:11:36 2007 From: antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com (antonio.mignogna at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:11:36 +0100 Subject: handling zip and rar with konqueror Message-ID: oops... sorry, didn't meant to send all the history... argh From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Oct 28 13:17:39 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:17:39 +0100 Subject: pdf not dsiplayed embedded in konqueror Message-ID: <47248BF3.6060901@gmx.net> Hello How can I disable the opening of pdfs inside konqueror? I would like the pdf to be opened in a new session of kpdf instead of being embedded into konqueror. Mike From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 13:52:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:52:29 +0200 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine Message-ID: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Crazy question - is it possible to hibernate a normal pc? It would improve the shutdown/startup. Just wondering. /d From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Oct 28 13:51:59 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:51:59 +0100 Subject: pdf not dsiplayed embedded in konqueror In-Reply-To: <47248BF3.6060901@gmx.net> References: <47248BF3.6060901@gmx.net> Message-ID: <472493FF.3080500@gmx.net> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Hello > How can I disable the opening of pdfs inside konqueror? I would like the > pdf to be opened in a new session of kpdf instead of being embedded into > konqueror. > > Mike OK, found it myself. Using file associations, in the "Embedding" tab, checked "Show files in separate viewer". Mike From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Oct 28 14:45:47 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <4724650D.6050101@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Nigel Ridley wrote: > Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > Hi, > > > > If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. > > Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the > "SanDisk" > > > > I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: > > I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the > drive not > > accessible at all for user B) > > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for > user B and the > > setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > > > I also explored the system settings and got the access right > bars ungreyed > > (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the > disk ( and also > > managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) > > That was of no help because I could not make those permissions > stick(y) > > Had no luck on Google either. > > > > > > Solutions: > > 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not > work here") > > _simple but not elegant. > > 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to > user B. > > _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. > > 3) su as A and use command lines to write. > > _my wife can't do that ;-) > > > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > > > Thanks for pointers Perry > > > > There is a similar problem with other auto-mounted media devices. > The same thing happens with a data CD or a digital camera (USB). My > > daughters' computer will sometimes have 2 active users (with one of > them > having inserted a data CD) and then I come along (and log into my > account) to do something with the cdrom and can't unmount it > because > there are already 2 users 'accessing' it. I try to eject/unmount it > but > get the 'Device in Use' message (or something similar) - so I > switch > users and try again only to get the same message. I have to log > everybody out except for one user then eject/unmount it. > > There must be a better way to manage auto-mounted media devices. > > Blessings, > > Nigel I have a similar problem with my USB stick. I can copy a file to it but when it comes to loading it on another computer, I need to move it as root and change the permissions. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Oct 28 14:55:38 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <47244835.8060102@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <288658.7000.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Scott wrote: > > So, for testing out new OS's and for the couple things I need > from win a > > VM is good, but for testing new releases of Kubuntu I should use > a > > different partition? > > If you want to be sure all your real hardware works fully. But if > you > just want to try out some applications, the VM will work. > If I remember correctly, when I used VirtualBox with Win 2K, I had problem with sound and USB devices. I really liked the idea though of being able to do a quick windows thing without having to reboot twice. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Sun Oct 28 15:45:06 2007 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:45:06 -0700 Subject: Desktop Pager Message-ID: <200710280845.07071.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Hi folks! I accidentally grabbed the desktop pager handle out of the main panel and moved it to the desktop as a regular window.....I cannot get it back to the panel, and when I close it and log out, it returns on next login...any ideas on how to shut this off. Larry From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Oct 28 16:13:09 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:13:09 -0400 Subject: Desktop Pager In-Reply-To: <200710280845.07071.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <200710280845.07071.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <200710281213.09300.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 28 October 2007, Larry Hartman wrote: > Hi folks! I accidentally grabbed the desktop pager handle out of the main > panel and moved it to the desktop as a regular window.....I cannot get it > back to the panel, and when I close it and log out, it returns on next > login...any ideas on how to shut this off. > > > Larry Have you tried re-adding it back to the panel? Right-click on an empty spot in the panel.... Add Applet and select desktop-pager. Works for me. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 28 16:52:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:52:54 -0300 Subject: Wine and the Internet References: <47041532.8000000@swbell.net> <47041E86.7060600@verizon.net> <4704417B.5090409@swbell.net> <200710280149.12449.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <13411938.NBQc26fea0@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > On Wednesday, 03 October 2007 21:27, Billie Walsh wrote: >> >> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet >> >> through the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? > > Should they or do they? They probably should, they most likely don't. I > find that a lot of windows developers use internet explorer calls to > access the > internet. So if you don't have IE installed, they don't know how else to > do > it. Sometimes installing IE in wine solves the problem, sometime it > doesn't. > This shouldn't be a problem any longer. Now that Wine installs a gecko engine to handle IE calls, it should be handling all these requests - but, naturally, it's just an extension of the usual Wine problems. Now instead of just emulating the Windows API, they're emulating the IE API too. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 28 16:45:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:45:31 -0300 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> <47226DB3.2010902@bmts.com> Message-ID: <2770161.tUYIJsx1OZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Scott wrote: > Phil Pinkerton wrote: >> Why not do both and do some benchmarks ? > That may be a good idea for the win xp that I have because I already > have it installed on a separate partition. What is a good way to > benchmark in both the Virtual Machine and in the win xp? Also, is there > any good documentation on doing win XP in a VM in Kubuntu? > > My win xp is a OEM install and Dell put the disc in a separate > partition. Is it possible to use that separate partition to install in > a virtual machine? > Generally speaking, OEM installs (and particularly Dell) are not usable in a VM, at least for the long term. iirc, you can get 30 days with XP before it refuses to boot. I think Vista won't let you use it at all. Microsoft insists that their OEM OSes are not licensed for use within a VM. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 28 16:43:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:43:01 -0300 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> <200710261609.18967.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1474379.GODmSyqCqh@cedar.serverforest.com> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007, Scott wrote: >> I'm using a Inspiron 1501 laptop which haves a AMD 64 Athlon X2 >> running at a total of 1.6Ghz and with 1GB of RAM. > > I guess in my opinion, your laptop doesn't have enough horsepower to use a > virtual environment. Yes you could get it to work, but I don't think > you'd be happy with it. It really depends what you want to do. I have run XP in VMWare with a vastly less powerful computer than that, and been perfectly happy with it (otoh, I've set up VMs in the same system that ran terribly - and I've never really understood what I did differently!). So yes, his laptop has plenty of power to run a virtual environment. Whether it has enough for the particular apps he wants, is another matter... -- derek From slewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 28 18:26:25 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:26:25 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <2770161.tUYIJsx1OZ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <472234A2.7040406@bmts.com> <47226DB3.2010902@bmts.com> <2770161.tUYIJsx1OZ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4724D451.50103@bmts.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Scott wrote: >> My win xp is a OEM install and Dell put the disc in a separate >> partition. Is it possible to use that separate partition to install in >> a virtual machine? >> > Generally speaking, OEM installs (and particularly Dell) are not usable in a > VM, at least for the long term. iirc, you can get 30 days with XP before > it refuses to boot. I think Vista won't let you use it at all. Microsoft > insists that their OEM OSes are not licensed for use within a VM. I also have been reading and found out that getting 3D support in a VM is very difficult, so, I may as well, at least, wait until later to try out XP in a VM. I will try out the most popular ones, seems to be VMware and VurtualBox and see how I like them with the other Linux distros and with BSD. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From joantur at cancullet.org Sun Oct 28 18:27:49 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:27:49 +0200 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine In-Reply-To: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710281927.52203.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Diumenge, 28 de Octubre de 2007, en Donn va escriure: | Crazy question - is it possible to hibernate a normal pc? It would improve | the shutdown/startup. Just wondering. Are you shown the hibernate option when logging off? If so, have you already tried it? 8-? AFAIK it needs a big swap partition, equal or bigger to your real RAM. Hope that helps ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 28 16:39:36 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:39:36 -0300 Subject: Mail Server (Fetchmail working) References: <200710232033.50290.d.mcglone@att.net> <200710261452.03183.d.mcglone@att.net> <3662603.Gp8TMOA6pc@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710261708.38209.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <20231137.4LJNUMv1vA@cedar.serverforest.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 3:27:30 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> Are you really getting mail for multiple users from one mailbox? That's >> multidrop, and fairly awkward. Usually it's easier to just set up unique >> mailboxes, since email addresses are so easy to get these days. > > Not yet. I haven't got past configuration for 1 user yet... LOL What I am > aiming for is to get mail for me and my wife and kids from AT&T which they > each have an individual e-mail address, and stick it in their mailbox's on > my server and then they will be able to read it either on the desktop > (which is also the server) or on the laptop OK, that's not what fetchmail calls "multidrop" then. You just set it up to fetch eatch user's mail successively, and deliver to the appropriate destination. >> >> > And last configure either postfix or sendmail to deliver mail. >> >> With postfix, it's just a debconf question - it'll ask how you want to >> configure mail sending, and you say "smart host", giving it your AT&T >> smtp server's address. > > Hmmm, how did you answer this question? did you run debconf or..... > > Is procmail and postfix the same thing? No. Procmail is a local mail delivery agent. It accepts mail from another program and puts it in the appropriate place for mail readers to see it, but it doesn't send it across the Internet. Postfix is Ubuntu's preferred SMTP server, and it includes a mail delivery agent, so procmail isn't really required unless you want extensive filtering of the mail before it goes into user folders. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Oct 28 16:57:40 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:57:40 -0300 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine References: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1360254.s1k6aovPXf@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > Crazy question - is it possible to hibernate a normal pc? It would improve > the shutdown/startup. Just wondering. Not crazy! Yes, it is, but iirc (haven't had a desktop machine in years) the simple apps to do it don't get installed on a desktop. Still ACPI is there, and acpid, and it's a fairly simple matter of editing /etc/acpi/events/ and the scripts in /etc/acpi/ to make it handle things like your power button as a request to hibernate. Or, if powermanagement-interface is installed you can use pmi. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 20:17:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:17:31 +0200 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine In-Reply-To: <1360254.s1k6aovPXf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1360254.s1k6aovPXf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710282217.31720.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Thx - will look into pmi and/or acpid. Kind of scared to type hibernate on the cli, but what the heck. (Hope it all comes back..) \d From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Oct 28 20:50:13 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:50:13 -0400 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200710281135.35301.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <200710271612.04427.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <200710271816.17019.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200710281135.35301.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710281650.13663.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 28 October 2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", MODE="0000" > > You probably mean MODE="0777" I was thinking umask, so I meant 0, but the original 0664 and the name "MODE" are probably an indication that my thinking on that was somewhat stupid. :) > I still do not understand what happens when you mount a device, it appears > as though the mount point is a placeholder that gets replaced by the > mounted stuff. Exactly. Once you mount something, the directory becomes a doorway through which you get to the contents. Anything you mount covers up any existing contents while the device is mounted. This can lead to fun confusion. I don't really understand where these permissions are coming from either. I know if you're mounting something by hand, there are parameters you can pass to mount that control permissions on USB volumes. But with this automagic stuff, I really have no idea exactly what is issuing the hidden mount command, or how to tweak it. I obviously didn't find what I was looking for with that apparently useless suggestion I made. We need a real guru here, not just a duffer. Any takers? -- D. Michael McIntyre From turgon at mike-leone.com Sun Oct 28 22:45:29 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:45:29 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience Message-ID: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> So I have an old P2-400 laptop, running edgy, that uses a Belkin FD7000 wirelss NIC. It's an Atheros-based card. Runs rock-solid; never drops a signal. Been using it for well over a year. So I decided to try out 7.10 (aka gutsy). I pulled out my HD, and put in a different one. This way, I could always go back to my working edgy config. The first thing I'll say is mostly just an annoyance - the install knew I had an Atheros chipset (I saw the "ath0" nic), but it wouldn't come up without my fiddling and telling it what it already knew (i.e., that I was using a NIC with a chipset on it's restricted list). That seems silly to me ... but whatever ... I needed to install kwlan; that install wanted to dump network-manager-kde. OK, fine. Since I use WPA-PSK for security, I had to go find and install that, too (you'd think that would get installed by default, just so that you'd have the tools to have a secure wireless set up on your laptop, whether you activate the feature or no. But whatever. I do all that; set passwords, etc, and now my card comes up and I'm good to go. Over the next 120 minutes, it dropped and reacquired signal 37 times. It would disconnect, and then reconnect. Repeatedly. Again, this is using exact same hardware (system, NIC, router) that never once dropped a signal on edgy. Exact same settings, too. Yet it got to the point that I was ready to rename the system "yo-yo", because it went up and down so often. And every time it lost the signal, it would interrupt my "aptitude upgrade", forcing me to kill it, and restart it. For some reason, aptitude did not pick up again, when the signal came back. The long and short of it - I took that gutsy HD out, and put back my edgy HD, and it's not gone down once. I have other things to spend my time on. :-) My conclusion - gutsy is not ready for me to try and use my Atheros card. Nor will I go get another card, since this one works perfectly in edgy (and a Windows laptop). Note that I'm not saying it's completely b0rked for everyone, but the experience has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth for 7.10 on a laptop. I came across posts that say changing RTS settings on my wireless AP would help. Fine ... except that I use a Belkin F5D7231-4 WAP, and you can't change those settings ... Anyone else having such problems? From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Sun Oct 28 23:03:28 2007 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:03:28 -0700 Subject: Desktop Pager In-Reply-To: <200710281213.09300.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200710280845.07071.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <200710281213.09300.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200710281603.28997.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Sunday 28 October 2007 09:13:09 am Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 28 October 2007, Larry Hartman wrote: > > Hi folks! I accidentally grabbed the desktop pager handle out of the > > main panel and moved it to the desktop as a regular window.....I cannot > > get it back to the panel, and when I close it and log out, it returns on > > next login...any ideas on how to shut this off. > > > > > > Larry > > Have you tried re-adding it back to the panel? Right-click on an empty > spot in the panel.... Add Applet and select desktop-pager. > > Works for me. Thanx that did the trick! From rcb at digitalanswers.biz Sun Oct 28 23:20:27 2007 From: rcb at digitalanswers.biz (Rick Chagouri-Brindle) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:20:27 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Kubuntu & iPod 5th Gen In-Reply-To: <200707281133.28932.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200707280922.56882.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <87y7h0hmk6.fsf@rimspace.net> <200707281133.28932.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4725193B.7060707@digitalanswers.biz> Since doing a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10 my 5th gen ipod is not recognised, whereas it worked perfectly under Feisty 7.04. The ipod itself seems to think it is attached to something as I get the "Do Not Disconnect" message flashing up, but nothing is visible/mounted within the OS, Amarok cannot see anything and manually trying to mount it does not. I have tested the ipod itself and it works fine under WinXP and the Kubuntu 7.04 I have on my laptop. The ipod uses the FAT32 file system. Another curious things is that when I have plugged my ipod in (USB), if I think go into System Settings -> Disk & Filesystems, I cannot see any of my disks/partitions and only the message "The Module Disk & Filesystem could not be loaded" is displayed. I have tested this repeatedly and it seems to confirm - after 25 tests - that when the ipod is connected (even though it doesn't appear to be recognised by the system) the message "The Module Disk & Filesystem could not be loaded" is displayed and when it is not connected, all is ok. It's a shame really, as I just managed to get a couple of friends to convert to Linux from XP and now they are ipodless! Any help would be gratefully received. Thanks! From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 23:35:35 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:35:35 +0100 Subject: Gutsy Kubuntu & iPod 5th Gen In-Reply-To: <4725193B.7060707@digitalanswers.biz> References: <200707280922.56882.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200707281133.28932.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <4725193B.7060707@digitalanswers.biz> Message-ID: <200710290035.35412.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Monday 29 October 2007 00:20:27 Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: > Since doing a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10 my 5th gen ipod is not > recognised, whereas it worked perfectly under Feisty 7.04. I don't have it here right now, but it was working all right in Gutsy till the RC. I don't see why it shouldn't now. Are you sure you got the ipodlib-something? -- lanzen From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 00:59:49 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:59:49 -0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <472113C0.2030509@sbcglobal.net> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> <472113C0.2030509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710281759q4c8db2feifde4024255ba184a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/25/07, Steven Vollom wrote: > lanzen wrote: > >> If the drive is Seagate or Maxtor, they preconfigure the drives for > >> Windows and Apple/Mac. > >> > > > > I've just recently got a seagate sata /300 (500Gb - slurp). On the box > > it says: compatible with Linux. I must say it is. Unfortunately - well, > > not so much - I didn't formatted it as NTFS so I can't say what would > > have happened in that case. > > > > > I just purchased a Maxtor One Touch III incl. Firewire800. They are > pre-configured to XP or Vista or Mac only. I have heard I can solve the > problem any, but haven't so far. I, too am getting the "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-option refused UID 1000" message with my Maxtor One Touch III (1 TB), but I was able to manually mount through the command-line. I haven't figured out how to make it automount yet, though. BTW, I am using Firewire (400) and not USB to interface with it, but I am not sure if this makes a difference. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 29 02:16:00 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:16:00 -0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0710281759q4c8db2feifde4024255ba184a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> <472113C0.2030509@sbcglobal.net> <9bed467e0710281759q4c8db2feifde4024255ba184a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47254260.5030406@sbcglobal.net> Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On 10/25/07, Steven Vollom wrote: > >> lanzen wrote: >> >>>> If the drive is Seagate or Maxtor, they preconfigure the drives for >>>> Windows and Apple/Mac. >>>> >>>> >>> I've just recently got a seagate sata /300 (500Gb - slurp). On the box >>> it says: compatible with Linux. I must say it is. Unfortunately - well, >>> not so much - I didn't formatted it as NTFS so I can't say what would >>> have happened in that case. >>> >>> >>> >> I just purchased a Maxtor One Touch III incl. Firewire800. They are >> pre-configured to XP or Vista or Mac only. I have heard I can solve the >> problem any, but haven't so far. >> > > I, too am getting the "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-option refused > UID 1000" message with my Maxtor One Touch III (1 TB), but I was able > to manually mount through the command-line. I haven't figured out how > to make it automount yet, though. BTW, I am using Firewire (400) and > not USB to interface with it, but I am not sure if this makes a > difference. > > Andrew > > Andrew, I am using FireWire 400 too, but I don't currently have Windows on my computer. I am a newbie. Can you help me manually install my 1TB Maxtor 800 400 2usb without Window installed? Thanks! From darshak.s at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 06:21:57 2007 From: darshak.s at gmail.com (darshak shah) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:51:57 +0530 Subject: Distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 hangs on "configuring libgcc1" Message-ID: I tried to upgrade from 7.04 version to 7.10 using the adept package manager. I had kept the machine in the office over the weekend for installation, it had successfully downloaded all the upgrades, And when it tried to install them, it was hung on "configuring libgcc1" for a long time. After that, I closed the upgrade process manually, and rebooted the machine twice. Then when I tried to open the adept manager again, it gives me this error. "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." I have no other application running which is locking the package manager. I suspect that when I closed the "Distribution Upgrade" manually, it has not released/deleted the corresponding lock file. After this step I was trying to run "sudo apt-get update" on the command line. This step ends with this error. " Fetched 6B in 4s (1B/s) E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " And when I tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" I get the following error. darshak at darshak-machine:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0006' near line 2 package `libc6': `triggers-pendi' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field I have no idea how to move ahead from this step. I want to upgrade my distribution to 7.10, and I have all the necessary packages downloaded in my "/var/cache/apt/archives/" which is approx 1.4 GB, which I do not want the apt manager to download again. Thank you in Advance! 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More likely, if it doesn't work, it will fail to hibernate and won't shut down, so even less likely to be a problem. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 29 13:05:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:33 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > I needed to install kwlan; why? > that install wanted to dump > network-manager-kde. OK, fine. Since I use WPA-PSK for security, I had > to go find and install that, too (you'd think that would get installed > by default, just so that you'd have the tools to have a secure wireless > set up on your laptop, whether you activate the feature or no. But > whatever. Everything needed is installed with network-manager-kde, so you just turfed that and complain that you don't have what you need... > Over the next 120 minutes, it dropped and reacquired signal 37 times. It > would disconnect, and then reconnect. Repeatedly. > > Again, this is using exact same hardware (system, NIC, router) that > never once dropped a signal on edgy. Exact same settings, too. Yet it > got to the point that I was ready to rename the system "yo-yo", because > it went up and down so often. OK, that's not nice, but again - since you threw out the network software that comes as part of kubuntu, you're not in much of a position to complain. > My conclusion - gutsy is not ready for me to try and use my Atheros > card. Do the same thing with Network-manager, with the same results, and I'll agree you have a problem with gutsy (and I won't be surprised, either - NM doesn't work for everyone), but if you start out by throwing away parts of the gutsy install, and then say gutsy doesn't work, you're getting what you deserve. -- derek From paulvarjak at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 13:57:50 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:57:50 +0100 Subject: choosing the best filesystem - FYI Message-ID: <5e33e3860710290657k116b3135h18250743ca75190@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I've read some data about filesystem's performance presented by SGI engineers in a linux simposium and I would like to share it with you because XFS is not much known by "home" users and it's a very stable opensource journaled filesystem which has many advantadges. See the attached JPG for the performance numbers. If someone wants to get the original information: http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/proceedings.php The JPG i send is from page 177 in volume 1. Exploring High Bandwidth Filesystems on Large Systems 177 Regards... Paul. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FS Performance.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 17126 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Mon Oct 29 14:21:01 2007 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (H van Rensburg) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:21:01 +0200 Subject: USB External Hard Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001e01c81a36$ef1954b0$660aa8c0@AlphaAM2> Guys, Thanks for all the good advise and suggestions. I solved the problem by using "Systems setting/advanced/hard drives" from Kubuntu start program tab. I went to administrator and enabled the drive. It works but has to be repeated every time I want to use the drive. I writes a line in FSTAB, but I think it is an error because it does not automatically detect the drive the next time around. It detects small pendrives automatically on USB. Weird. Think same will work for Firewire external drives. Will register it as an error. hvralpha From list.dhooge at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 14:47:57 2007 From: list.dhooge at gmail.com (Michel D'HOOGE) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:47:57 +0100 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine In-Reply-To: <1233846.mTsCQEMIKB@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710282217.31720.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1233846.mTsCQEMIKB@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710291547.57764.list.dhooge@gmail.com> On Monday 29 October 2007 13:58:19 Derek Broughton wrote: > No need to be scared Yes, hibernating (or suspend to disk) is much more easy to do than a suspend to RAM since you don't need any special hardware. This is simply the kernel that detects at boot time that a memory snapshot is available in swap. If you're really, really unlucky your video card won't be correctly initialised and you won't see anything but normally everything else must be up and running (so quite still easy to force a full shutdown). BTW, a common pitfall once you get use to hibernating is to forget to reboot after a kernel upgrade. In my case, grub always chooses the last version which doesn't recognise (sigh) the snapshot and do a cold boot (Bug #76424). HTH -- Michel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But > > whatever. > > Everything needed is installed with network-manager-kde, so you just > turfed > that and complain that you don't have what you need... > > > Over the next 120 minutes, it dropped and reacquired signal 37 times. It > > would disconnect, and then reconnect. Repeatedly. > > > > Again, this is using exact same hardware (system, NIC, router) that > > never once dropped a signal on edgy. Exact same settings, too. Yet it > > got to the point that I was ready to rename the system "yo-yo", because > > it went up and down so often. > > OK, that's not nice, but again - since you threw out the network software > that comes as part of kubuntu, you're not in much of a position to > complain. > > > My conclusion - gutsy is not ready for me to try and use my Atheros > > card. > > Do the same thing with Network-manager, with the same results, and I'll > agree you have a problem with gutsy (and I won't be surprised, either - NM > doesn't work for everyone), but if you start out by throwing away parts of > the gutsy install, and then say gutsy doesn't work, you're getting what > you > deserve. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > geeze!! drop the attitude Derek or stfu. your not very nice or helpful lately so I need to trash all email associated with your name, and that's too bad as at times you do have good things to say and advice to offer. -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you absolutely ***NEED*** the speed of XFS, chances are that you've already learned enough to be able to deal with it (grub, I'm looking at YOU). I've used XFS before, and it's a nice FS, however, it does have some limitations. Foremost, it's not grub compatible, and lilo is just plain weird. I learned how to use Lilo, however, stick with grub if you can! Second XFS is rather old. New versions aren't being merged into the kernel until the XFS folks start making mods that adhere to the Linux Kernel standards (particularly negative error codes, etc). XFS is reluctant to do that because it digresses from their IRIX codebase. I don't blame them that much, 'cause I personally strolled through that code to try and do it myself for the LKJ, and was thoroughly confused in a very short time. I was also under the impression that XFS is less tolerant of corruption due to its more sensitive data structure (a B-Tree), though that could just be me imagining things. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 29 14:14:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:14:00 -0300 Subject: choosing the best filesystem - FYI References: <5e33e3860710290657k116b3135h18250743ca75190@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4131916.Bzyn7FoErq@cedar.serverforest.com> Paul wrote: > Hello. > > I've read some data about filesystem's performance presented by SGI > engineers in a linux simposium and I would like to share it with you > because XFS is not much known by "home" users and it's a very stable > opensource journaled filesystem which has many advantadges. I used it briefly and was perfectly happy with it - but dropped it when I needed to install on a new computer and discovered that the Ubuntu installer didn't support it. I can't remember whether it was completely unsupported, or it couldn't create an XFS filesystem on an LVM partition. -- derek From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 15:45:34 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:45:34 -0400 Subject: choosing the best filesystem - FYI In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710290657k116b3135h18250743ca75190@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710290657k116b3135h18250743ca75190@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/29/07, Paul wrote: > > Hello. > > I've read some data about filesystem's performance presented by SGI > engineers in a linux simposium and I would like to share it with you > because XFS is not much known by "home" users and it's a very stable > opensource journaled filesystem which has many advantadges. > > See the attached JPG for the performance numbers. > > If someone wants to get the original information: > http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/proceedings.php > > The JPG i send is from page 177 in volume 1. > Exploring High Bandwidth Filesystems on Large Systems 177 > > Regards... > Paul. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Do you have any specs with reference to reiserfs ? just curious. -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 hangs on "configuring > libgcc1" (darshak shah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:51:57 +0530 > From: "darshak shah" > Subject: Distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 hangs on "configuring > libgcc1" > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I tried to upgrade from 7.04 version to 7.10 using the adept package > manager. > I had kept the machine in the office over the weekend for installation, it > had successfully downloaded all the upgrades, > And when it tried to install them, it was hung on "configuring libgcc1" for > a long time. > > After that, I closed the upgrade process manually, and rebooted the machine > twice. > Then when I tried to open the adept manager again, it gives me this error. > > "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other > Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other > application before using this one." > > > I have no other application running which is locking the package manager. > I suspect that when I closed the "Distribution Upgrade" manually, it has not > released/deleted the corresponding lock file. > > After this step I was trying to run "sudo apt-get update" on the command > line. > This step ends with this error. > " > Fetched 6B in 4s (1B/s) > E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to > correct the problem. > " > > And when I tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" I get the following error. > > darshak at darshak-machine:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0006' near line 2 package > `libc6': > `triggers-pendi' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field > > I have no idea how to move ahead from this step. > I want to upgrade my distribution to 7.10, and I have all the necessary > packages downloaded in my "/var/cache/apt/archives/" which is approx 1.4 GB, > which I do not want the apt manager to download again. > > Thank you in Advance! > > Regards, > > Darshak > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20071029/b06538e5/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > If you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will not download packages that have already been downloaded but there might be one you are missing. As for the lock, this is known in adept i will post the bot output for that factoid below, ubotu > If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: << sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg - --configure -a >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHJgadqig4QTwcPCoRAqipAJ9JscKQxBWIZauUVG3PJlMUHfT7IQCeIZO1 mFp3y7xF/JEPSC7yCDfpRrE= =6dog -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Oct 29 16:41:46 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:41:46 +0200 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy Message-ID: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is stuck on a maximum of 600x800. I did try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Oct 29 16:45:25 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:45:25 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 09:10: > Mike Leone wrote: > > > I needed to install kwlan; > > why? Because I needed WPA support, and installing wpa_supplicant said it wanted it. (I think) Something wanted it; I didn't just make that up. :-) > > > that install wanted to dump > > network-manager-kde. OK, fine. Since I use WPA-PSK for security, I had > > to go find and install that, too (you'd think that would get installed > > by default, just so that you'd have the tools to have a secure wireless > > set up on your laptop, whether you activate the feature or no. But > > whatever. > > Everything needed is installed with network-manager-kde, so you just turfed > that and complain that you don't have what you need... Well, no - the NIC didn't work until I installed kwlan, so something wasn't right ... > > > Over the next 120 minutes, it dropped and reacquired signal 37 times. It > > would disconnect, and then reconnect. Repeatedly. > > > > Again, this is using exact same hardware (system, NIC, router) that > > never once dropped a signal on edgy. Exact same settings, too. Yet it > > got to the point that I was ready to rename the system "yo-yo", because > > it went up and down so often. > > OK, that's not nice, but again - since you threw out the network software > that comes as part of kubuntu, you're not in much of a position to > complain. Sure I am - I didn't "throw out" anything, anyhting that got uninstalled was done by aptitude (well, I told it to, but that was because it recommended it). > > > My conclusion - gutsy is not ready for me to try and use my Atheros > > card. > > Do the same thing with Network-manager, with the same results, and I'll > agree you have a problem with gutsy (and I won't be surprised, either - NM > doesn't work for everyone), but if you start out by throwing away parts of > the gutsy install, and then say gutsy doesn't work, you're getting what you > deserve. I couldn't get the NIC to be recognized at all with network-manager. What's with the attitude? You don't have to respond, you know, and I never said that my experiences were the same as everyone's. From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Oct 29 17:01:25 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:01:25 -0400 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy In-Reply-To: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <20071029170125.GK23216@localhost> Nigel Ridley (nigel at rmk.co.il) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 12:50: > I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so > installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is > stuck on a maximum of 600x800. > I did try: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org > but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' > > What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? It's "xserver.xorg", I believe. I think you just misspelled it. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From bach.michael at gmx.net Mon Oct 29 17:29:52 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:29:52 +0100 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy In-Reply-To: <20071029170125.GK23216@localhost> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> <20071029170125.GK23216@localhost> Message-ID: <47261890.3030002@gmx.net> Mike Leone wrote: > Nigel Ridley (nigel at rmk.co.il) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 12:50: >> I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so >> installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is >> stuck on a maximum of 600x800. >> I did try: >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org >> but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' >> >> What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? > > It's "xserver.xorg", I believe. I think you just misspelled it. Yes, it's "xserver-xorg" > > >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> OliveRoot Ministries >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ >> >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kassube at gmx.net Mon Oct 29 17:32:40 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:32:40 +0100 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy In-Reply-To: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200710291832.40203.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I did try: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org > but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' > > What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? Usually people recommend this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Nils From spwhite at freesurf.ch Mon Oct 29 17:33:46 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:33:46 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710291833.47009.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Sunday 28 October 2007 15:45, Earl Violet wrote: > --- Nigel Ridley wrote: > > Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. > > > Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the > > > > "SanDisk" > > > > > I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: > > > I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the > > > > drive not > > > > > accessible at all for user B) > > > But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for > > > > user B and the > > > > > setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. > > > > > > I also explored the system settings and got the access right > > > > bars ungreyed > > > > > (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the > > > > disk ( and also > > > > > managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) > > > That was of no help because I could not make those permissions > > > > stick(y) > > > > > Had no luck on Google either. > > > > > > > > > Solutions: > > > 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not > > > > work here") > > > > > _simple but not elegant. > > > 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to > > > > user B. > > > > > _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. > > > 3) su as A and use command lines to write. > > > _my wife can't do that ;-) > > > > > > 4) ***What do you suggest?*** > > > > > > Thanks for pointers Perry > > > > There is a similar problem with other auto-mounted media devices. > > The same thing happens with a data CD or a digital camera (USB). My > > > > daughters' computer will sometimes have 2 active users (with one of > > them > > having inserted a data CD) and then I come along (and log into my > > account) to do something with the cdrom and can't unmount it > > because > > there are already 2 users 'accessing' it. I try to eject/unmount it > > but > > get the 'Device in Use' message (or something similar) - so I > > switch > > users and try again only to get the same message. I have to log > > everybody out except for one user then eject/unmount it. > > > > There must be a better way to manage auto-mounted media devices. > > > > Blessings, > > > > Nigel > > I have a similar problem with my USB stick. IMHO only to a certain extent. > I can copy a file to it > but when it comes to loading it on another computer, Do you mean you cannot read from the stick or copy its files to the 2nd computer? > I need to move it as root and change the permissions. The permissions of the stick or of the files within? > > Earl > Hi Earl, I wouldn't be too surprised if you could solve your problem before Nigel or I. As for Nigel's CD I couldn't eject my USB stick and our problem is probably related to the way "this automagic stuff" mounts the volumes. Perhaps everybody with some version of Linux has these problems (I tried my stick with 2 users under M$, both could write to it). We may call that a bug (unless it is an option). Your problem is much more serious, in the sense that it invalidates the whole purpose of the USB stick (file transfer), but it may be simpler to solve (just a guess). The great difference between your case and ours is that you unplugged and replugged the stick... the person on the 2nd machine should then become the owner of the stick, so something else must be locking your files. I would first check if the problem doesn't come from the permissions of the folders and files inside the device. Try it on M$ perhaps. Don't give up too soon. cheers Perry -- BOFH excuse #5: static from plastic slide rules From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Mon Oct 29 17:35:08 2007 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:35:08 +0100 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy In-Reply-To: <20071029170125.GK23216@localhost> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> <20071029170125.GK23216@localhost> Message-ID: <472619CC.60809@michaelzoet.de> Mike Leone schrieb: > Nigel Ridley (nigel at rmk.co.il) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 12:50: > >> I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so >> installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is >> stuck on a maximum of 600x800. >> I did try: >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org >> but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' >> >> What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? >> > > It's "xserver.xorg", I believe. I think you just misspelled it. > Actually the package name is xserver-xorg. Debian and Ubuntu like the - as a separator ;-). So a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org should get you to the reconfiguration of your X11 setup. Hope this helps, Michael From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Oct 29 18:05:16 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:05:16 +0200 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy In-Reply-To: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <472620DC.3040002@rmk.co.il> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so > installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is > stuck on a maximum of 600x800. > I did try: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org > but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' > > What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > I actually copied over the backup from /var/backups/blah/blah that the 'nvidia-glx enable' created and got everything back the way it was. BUT when I changed the driver part of my xorg.conf from 'nv' to 'nvidia' (and restarted X) I was put back into a 600x800 resolution again. Back to 'nv' again and all is well :-( How do I get 1024x768 using the nvidia driver? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Mon Oct 29 18:19:16 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:19:16 +0000 Subject: xandros?? Message-ID: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> My brother is becoming more and more interested in Linux (with my encouragement of course). I have set him up with Kubuntu (Feisty) which he is playing with. Now somewhere he has obtained a copy of Xandros. (Since this seems to be based on Debian, like kubuntu, etc, I hope it is not off topic. If it is , I apologise in advance.) I just wondered if there are any comments, advice etc from the group. Or pointers to where I can find out more. Thanks Neil Winchurst From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 29 18:04:09 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:09 -0300 Subject: Hibernating a desktop machine References: <200710281552.29696.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200710282217.31720.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1233846.mTsCQEMIKB@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710291547.57764.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1934924.bidZ4xWYiv@cedar.serverforest.com> Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2007 13:58:19 Derek Broughton wrote: >> No need to be scared > > Yes, hibernating (or suspend to disk) is much more easy to do than a > suspend to RAM since you don't need any special hardware. This is simply > the kernel that detects at boot time that a memory snapshot is available > in swap. If you're really, really unlucky your video card won't be > correctly initialised and you won't see anything but normally everything > else must be up and running (so quite still easy to force a full > shutdown). > > BTW, a common pitfall once you get use to hibernating is to forget to > reboot after a kernel upgrade. In my case, grub always chooses the last > version which doesn't recognise (sigh) the snapshot and do a cold boot > (Bug #76424). Yes - it's always a mystery to me why my laptop comes up to a KDM login prompt instead of the screensaver password prompt, and it takes a while to clue in that it rebooted instead of resuming :-) I'm not sure why update-grub couldn't just add new kernels _after_ the current one, rather than before, then a reboot without making a choice should usually bring up the original kernel. -- derek From slewin at bmts.com Mon Oct 29 18:45:12 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:45:12 -0400 Subject: xandros?? In-Reply-To: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <47262A38.30602@bmts.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > I just wondered if there are any comments, advice etc from the group. > Or pointers to where I can find out more. If you are wondering what Xandros is the best place to go would probably be www.xandros.com. Xandros is what Corel Linux haves become. After microsoft purchased a large share of Corel, Corel stopped the production of Corel Linux. After microsoft sold their shares of Corel, Corel sold Corel Linux to another Canadian Company who now produces the distribution under the name of Xandros. If you are asking about opinions of Xandros. I find it to be the most graphically pleasing and easy installation of any operating system. I also find the OS is very easy to use, epically software installs, and haves good eye candy. Also, if you are Canadian, it is a bonus that it is a Canadian distribution. The cons would be that it is considerably proprietary, and when I tested it, it did not have a very good selection of software to install through its software manager; but it was good at installing proprietary software. Also, I don't think it haves a very large community, at least nothing like Kubuntu, that can help and support the system for free. I think most of the support comes through the company with a fee. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Oct 29 18:51:34 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:51:34 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071029185133.GL23216@localhost> Phil Pinkerton (pcpinkerton at gmail.com) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 10:54: > On 10/29/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > > Mike Leone wrote: > > > > > I needed to install kwlan; > > > > why? Beacuse network-manager didn't have "WPA" as allowable security for my wireless. Doing an apt-cache search for WPA brought up wpa_supplicanrt (as I knew it would, since I've used it before), and also brought up kwlan. So, since network-manager didn't have everything I needed, I installed kwlan (which removed network-manager). > > > > > that install wanted to dump > > > network-manager-kde. OK, fine. Since I use WPA-PSK for security, I had > > > to go find and install that, too (you'd think that would get installed > > > by default, just so that you'd have the tools to have a secure wireless > > > set up on your laptop, whether you activate the feature or no. But > > > whatever. > > > > Everything needed is installed with network-manager-kde, so you just > > turfed > > that and complain that you don't have what you need... Nope; see previous paragraph, Network-manager didn't seem to know about WPA. > > Do the same thing with Network-manager, with the same results, and I'll > > agree you have a problem with gutsy (and I won't be surprised, either - NM > > doesn't work for everyone), And doesn't work for me, since it doesn't have what I need. > > but if you start out by throwing away parts of > > the gutsy install, and then say gutsy doesn't work, you're getting what > > you deserve. You can ignore my posts from now on, since all you seem to want to do is berate. I'll be doing the same, and we'll probably both be happier ... From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 29 18:14:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:14:39 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> Message-ID: <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 10/29/07 at > 09:10: >> Mike Leone wrote: >> >> > I needed to install kwlan; >> >> why? > > Because I needed WPA support, and installing wpa_supplicant said it wanted > it. (I think) Something wanted it; I didn't just make that up. :-) wpa_supplicant is already installed as a dependency of network-manager-kde - and WPA is supported by NM - so I still don't see why you need kwlan. $ apt-cache rdepends wpasupplicant wpasupplicant Reverse Depends: wpagui wifi-radar network-config madwifi-tools kwlan ubuntu-minimal network-manager Since, in fact, it's a requirement of ubuntu-minimal, you can't even remove wpasupplicant without it complaining. >> OK, that's not nice, but again - since you threw out the network software >> that comes as part of kubuntu, you're not in much of a position to >> complain. > > Sure I am - I didn't "throw out" anything, anyhting that got uninstalled > was done by aptitude (well, I told it to, but that was because it > recommended it). No, it didn't. > I couldn't get the NIC to be recognized at all with network-manager. > > What's with the attitude? You don't have to respond, you know, and I never > said that my experiences were the same as everyone's. The attitude is all on your part. You complain that gutsy doesn't work - but you're not testing gutsy as installed. You threw out network-manager and installed another wifi manager that you don't even understand the use of. If the NIC wasn't "recognized", I have real trouble believing kwlan would do a better job - this doesn't happen at the manager level, it happens at the kernel. My guess - impossible to tell unless you're prepared to try network manager again - is that driver module never got loaded (and yes, under NM that does occasionally happen on my laptop). -- derek From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Oct 29 19:21:48 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:21:48 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071029192147.GM23216@localhost> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 15:08: > Mike Leone wrote: > > > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 10/29/07 at > > 09:10: > >> Mike Leone wrote: > >> > >> > I needed to install kwlan; > >> > >> why? > > > > Because I needed WPA support, and installing wpa_supplicant said it wanted > > it. (I think) Something wanted it; I didn't just make that up. :-) > > wpa_supplicant is already installed as a dependency of network-manager-kde - > and WPA is supported by NM - so I still don't see why you need kwlan. > Because WPA did *NOT* come up as an option with network-manager. Maybe it did for you, but it for sure wasn't there for me. I remember being annoyed that it wasn't there (as an option in network-manager), and that I needed to go and get it (and it did go and get it, so no - wpa_supplicant was *not* installed for me. > The attitude is all on your part. You complain that gutsy doesn't work - Did no such thing. I said it didn't work *FOR ME* - in my experience; but I *explicitly* didn't say the same would hold true for everyone. And I wasn't the only one who posted about your attitude in your response, so no, the attitude is not (all) on my part. > but you're not testing gutsy as installed. You threw out network-manager > and installed another wifi manager that you don't even understand the use > of. > > If the NIC wasn't "recognized", WPA was not available as an option; I mis-spoke. And your attitude continues. Seriously, if my posts piss you off so much, then just ignore them. I've seen you be helpful to others; since you think so low of me, ignore me, and go help them. From progressivepenguin at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 19:38:06 2007 From: progressivepenguin at gmail.com (Steve T) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:38:06 -0500 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <7156d5f20710291238t7292a8e4sc647568ff71cf0c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > The attitude is all on your part. > > > Whoops! Hey, I'm just a passerby here and I even noticed that you jumped all over this guy for no reason. If you don't like what he says, then move on to the next thread. Lighten up Frances, before you end up in a clock tower with and AK-47. (In other words, you seem a little too tightly wound. Go take a Lude.) -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Oct 29 19:55:25 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:55:25 -0400 Subject: xandros?? In-Reply-To: <47262A38.30602@bmts.com> References: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <47262A38.30602@bmts.com> Message-ID: <47263AAD.9080204@gatech.edu> Scott wrote: > The cons would be that it is considerably proprietary, Not only that, they have betrayed the community by signing an exclusive patent cross-license with Microsoft, which means they can't use GPLv3 software. Matt Flaschen From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Oct 29 20:31:40 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:31:40 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710292131.41346.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > Thx for the info. > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just > > > before the kde-login screen. > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > Known problem. We all have it. Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? Karl, From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Mon Oct 29 22:08:42 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:42 +0000 Subject: xandros?? In-Reply-To: <47263AAD.9080204@gatech.edu> References: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <47262A38.30602@bmts.com> <47263AAD.9080204@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20071029220842.2b215a41.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:55:25 -0400 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Scott wrote: > > The cons would be that it is considerably proprietary, > > Not only that, they have betrayed the community by signing an exclusive > patent cross-license with Microsoft, which means they can't use GPLv3 > software. > > Matt Flaschen > If that is so, then I will make sure that my brother does not use it> Neil Winchurst From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Mon Oct 29 22:30:18 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:30:18 +0000 Subject: Firefox Realplayer plugin Message-ID: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Has anyone here successfully managed to get the RealPlayer working with Firefox in Gutsy? I had no problem getting it running in Feisy, but nothing I've so far tried has managed to get it working OK. This is another one to add to my list of things not working with Gutsy after wireless networking, strange ogg problem with Amarok and the: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mfraser" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mfraser" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mfraser" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. whenever I try to do something with kdesu in the Konsole. Hopefully they'll be fixed soon. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 22:48:28 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:48:28 -0600 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710260946j673784e6wb46e37b39f1f3c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710291548m113e239dh37254d6de4101c68@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/07, Knapp wrote: > All these are very nice but that do you use in firefox? Do you really use firefox as your file browser? These tools are for use in your file browser. Pre-Gutsy, that was konqueror. Now it defaults to dolphin, but I think the service menu still works. If you use firefox for browsing the filesystem I don't have advise. Sorry. Michael > On 10/26/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > > On 10/24/07, Karl Vanwynsberghe < karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > > > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > > > resize all the pitures. > > > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > > > I get to plug my solution. It's a KDE Service Menu which can be found > > here: > http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/resizePhotos?content=49611 > > > > It's just a simple shell script (but with GUI feedback!). if you > > install it in the right place, puts an "Action" on the right-click > > menu to resize the photos. > > > > I use it all the time, and so does my wife. Give it a try. > > > > Michael > > > > Here's the description: > > resizePhoto is a nice service menu to resize your photos to a size > > suitable for emailing. It will resize any picture so that it is no > > more than 640 pixels on a side while preserving the aspect ration. > > This size can easily be changed by editing a text file. > > > > You can resize any number of photos simultaneously by multiselecting > > them in Konqueror, then choosing the "Resize Photo" service menu. > > > > A dialog will display the progress. The dialog has a cancel button. > > > > Usage: > > Open a folder containing some image files (.png, .jpg, .gif) in Konqueror. > > > > Select one or several of these files. > > > > Right-click one of the selected file and select Action->Resize Photo. > > (See first screenshot.) > > > > A dialog will appear showing the progress of the resizing. (See second > > screenshot.) Press cancel if you so desire. > > > > A folder named "Sized" will appear in the image folder. The resized > > photos are in that folder. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, > doch völlig sinnlos. > -Loriot > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From macariov at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 23:03:12 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:03:12 -0400 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710291548m113e239dh37254d6de4101c68@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710260946j673784e6wb46e37b39f1f3c01@mail.gmail.com> <9c2aabaf0710291548m113e239dh37254d6de4101c68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193698992.9009.11.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 16:48 -0600, Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 10/26/07, Knapp wrote: > > All these are very nice but that do you use in firefox? > > Do you really use firefox as your file browser? These tools are for > use in your file browser. Pre-Gutsy, that was konqueror. Now it > defaults to dolphin, but I think the service menu still works. > > If you use firefox for browsing the filesystem I don't have advise. Sorry. > > Michael > > > On 10/26/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > > > > On 10/24/07, Karl Vanwynsberghe < karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Is there also something like the following in win-XP. > > > > => When sending multiple pictures via explorer then you have a option to > > > > resize all the pitures. > > > > This way you're able to send morepictures at once. > > > > > > I get to plug my solution. It's a KDE Service Menu which can be found > > > here: > > http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/resizePhotos?content=49611 > > > > > > It's just a simple shell script (but with GUI feedback!). if you > > > install it in the right place, puts an "Action" on the right-click > > > menu to resize the photos. > > > > > > I use it all the time, and so does my wife. Give it a try. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > Here's the description: > > > resizePhoto is a nice service menu to resize your photos to a size > > > suitable for emailing. It will resize any picture so that it is no > > > more than 640 pixels on a side while preserving the aspect ration. > > > This size can easily be changed by editing a text file. > > > > > > You can resize any number of photos simultaneously by multiselecting > > > them in Konqueror, then choosing the "Resize Photo" service menu. > > > > > > A dialog will display the progress. The dialog has a cancel button. > > > > > > Usage: > > > Open a folder containing some image files (.png, .jpg, .gif) in Konqueror. > > > > > > Select one or several of these files. > > > > > > Right-click one of the selected file and select Action->Resize Photo. > > > (See first screenshot.) > > > > > > A dialog will appear showing the progress of the resizing. (See second > > > screenshot.) Press cancel if you so desire. > > > > > > A folder named "Sized" will appear in the image folder. The resized > > > photos are in that folder. > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, > > doch völlig sinnlos. > > -Loriot > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > Don't use firefox for file browsing. That like using a spoon to cut your steak! Firefox is a good browser, but not even a decent file browser. Like the spook for cutting, it will do the job, but it will be painfull. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 23:26:28 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:26:28 -0600 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710292131.41346.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710292131.41346.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710291626x39679ff6hd7657323eafc66d2@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just > > > > before the kde-login screen. > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. 1. power the system on. 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, press 'e' to edit it 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or whatever it says 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 23:27:06 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:27:06 -0600 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710291626x39679ff6hd7657323eafc66d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710201438.42068.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <200710202058.20667.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710292131.41346.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291626x39679ff6hd7657323eafc66d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until just > > > > > before the kde-login screen. > > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? > > Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do > this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. > > 1. power the system on. > 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, > press 'e' to edit it > 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it > 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or whatever it says > 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > Michael BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. Michael From slewin at bmts.com Mon Oct 29 23:56:49 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:56:49 -0400 Subject: xandros?? In-Reply-To: <47263AAD.9080204@gatech.edu> References: <20071029181916.647d70f1.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <47262A38.30602@bmts.com> <47263AAD.9080204@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <47267341.9040700@bmts.com> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Not only that, they have betrayed the community by signing an exclusive > patent cross-license with Microsoft, which means they can't use GPLv3 > software. Oh yea, I forgot about that. That is the largest flaw of Xandros easily. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Oct 30 00:41:18 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:41:18 -0500 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47267DAE.5050505@swbell.net> I've lost all my e-mail archive over the last couple days, so I can't go back to the beginning of this thread. I have a Belkin/Atheros card. I loaded Gutsy onto my laptop. The card was recognized and the madwifi installed. For whatever reason I couldn't get it to work at first. I also wasn't all that thrilled about the Network Manager interface to the card. I installed Kwifi and all of a sudden I was able to get the card working. I doubt that installing Kwifi was directly responsible, but I do think the better interface helped me get it working. It's more like the Belkin controller that comes with the card for Windows. Just my $0.02 worth. YMMV From rcb at digitalanswers.biz Tue Oct 30 00:44:21 2007 From: rcb at digitalanswers.biz (Rick Chagouri-Brindle) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:44:21 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Kubuntu & iPod 5th Gen In-Reply-To: <200710290035.35412.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200707280922.56882.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200707281133.28932.kde@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <4725193B.7060707@digitalanswers.biz> <200710290035.35412.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47267E65.6020806@digitalanswers.biz> lanzen wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2007 00:20:27 Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: > > >> Since doing a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10 my 5th gen ipod is not >> recognised, whereas it worked perfectly under Feisty 7.04. >> > > I don't have it here right now, but it was working all right in Gutsy till the > RC. I don't see why it shouldn't now. Are you sure you got the > ipodlib-something? > > > Yep, I've just double checked and it's all seems to be installed ok. From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 02:33:12 2007 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:03:12 +0530 Subject: Firefox Realplayer plugin In-Reply-To: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <78323d480710291933h5fda2311yb40fe2d9f8f4e32c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/30/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > Has anyone here successfully managed to get the RealPlayer working with > Firefox in Gutsy? I had no problem getting it running in Feisy, but nothing > I've so far tried has managed to get it working OK. > Which realplayer did you install in Fiesty ? It does not work after install . Thanks A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From turgon at mike-leone.com Tue Oct 30 03:01:21 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:01:21 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working Message-ID: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> Turns out, both Derek and I were right. Huh? Howzat, I hear you say? Well, it's like this ... I decided, what the heck - I'll re-format and re-install from scratch. It'll take a couple hours (this is an 8 year old PII-400 laptop we're talking about; it ain't exactly a speed demon ..). So I do that, and go listen to the radio for a couple hours while it trundles along. After it finishes, and boots for the first time, I see that it's telling me I am using an Atheros card, and that means it wants to load restricted drivers. "Hmm", I thought, "*that's* new - don't recall seeing that before". So I tell it that it's fine to load the drivers, and then I set about configuring KNetworkManager to use the wireless card, And hey! it seems to know about WPA this time ... So I give it the WPA password, and a password for the KWallet, and away I went, merrily wirelessing my way. So what was different? The first time I installed Gutsy, I had *only* the wireless card; I had no wired card inserted. This time, I did have both the wired and wireless cards inserted during installation. Dunno why it should have mattered, but apparently it did. Because this time KNetworkManager worked right out of the gate with my Atheros-based card, including WPA support. And last time, that was *not* the case - there was no option for WPA during my first install, causing me to go and use kwlan (which caused me all the frequent disconnects). So I guess having a wired card inserted during the install caused it to install some items that it did not install the first time? I dunno. What I do know is that it's now all Just Working, as I had hoped it would (and as I guess Derek expected it would). So all that drama was for nothing. :-) One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for the card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that just load up without prompting me every time I log in? In conclusion, everything is now working for me as it should, and it was all resolved with the classic Windows method - reinstall from scratch. :-) (and to be sure to have a non-restricted NIC available during install, apparently). And except for the part about being prompted for the KDE Wallet password before the card would load, it was as smooth as a wireless install under Windows. Smoother, actually, since I didn't have to load any drivers, and there were less clicks to enter parameters such as SSID and WPA password. So high kudos to Gutsy and (k)ubuntu. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 05:25:58 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:25:58 -0600 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <4722916E.1020901@bmts.com> References: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4722916E.1020901@bmts.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710292225l7c740ee6hb2aca3674824f45b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/07, Scott wrote: > If I do decide to use a Virtual Machine, which Virtual Machine software > would be best? I noticed there is more than one choice. I've been having pretty good success lately with VirtualBox. It's open source and quite good. And it has ubuntu packages available. Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 05:31:58 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:31:58 -0600 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710292231x2345f34do3c15b812f1b0312a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/07, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just did a clean [flawless] install on my daughter's old P111 laptop. > > Q. How do I enable a 'tree view' in Dolphin? It's really annoying not to > be able to see parent and daughter directories at one go. I don't want > to have to click click click click click click all the time just to get > to a 'buried' directory - arggggh! That doesn't look possible, to me. I'm thinking of making Konqueror my default, again. My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the toolbar. At least that was easy to add. Michael From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 17:58:44 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:58:44 +0200 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> Message-ID: <47261F54.6050402@gmail.com> I know I am top-posting but I would try WICD (works fine with WPA and x number of other methods) http://wicd.sourceforge.net Sinclair Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 10/29/07 at 09:10: >> Mike Leone wrote: >> >>> I needed to install kwlan; >> why? > > Because I needed WPA support, and installing wpa_supplicant said it wanted > it. (I think) Something wanted it; I didn't just make that up. :-) > >>> that install wanted to dump >>> network-manager-kde. OK, fine. Since I use WPA-PSK for security, I had >>> to go find and install that, too (you'd think that would get installed >>> by default, just so that you'd have the tools to have a secure wireless >>> set up on your laptop, whether you activate the feature or no. But >>> whatever. >> Everything needed is installed with network-manager-kde, so you just turfed >> that and complain that you don't have what you need... > > Well, no - the NIC didn't work until I installed kwlan, so something wasn't right > ... > >>> Over the next 120 minutes, it dropped and reacquired signal 37 times. It >>> would disconnect, and then reconnect. Repeatedly. >>> >>> Again, this is using exact same hardware (system, NIC, router) that >>> never once dropped a signal on edgy. Exact same settings, too. Yet it >>> got to the point that I was ready to rename the system "yo-yo", because >>> it went up and down so often. >> OK, that's not nice, but again - since you threw out the network software >> that comes as part of kubuntu, you're not in much of a position to >> complain. > > Sure I am - I didn't "throw out" anything, anyhting that got uninstalled was > done by aptitude (well, I told it to, but that was because it recommended > it). > >>> My conclusion - gutsy is not ready for me to try and use my Atheros >>> card. >> Do the same thing with Network-manager, with the same results, and I'll >> agree you have a problem with gutsy (and I won't be surprised, either - NM >> doesn't work for everyone), but if you start out by throwing away parts of >> the gutsy install, and then say gutsy doesn't work, you're getting what you >> deserve. > > > I couldn't get the NIC to be recognized at all with network-manager. > > What's with the attitude? You don't have to respond, you know, and I never > said that my experiences were the same as everyone's. > > From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 06:35:45 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:35:45 +0200 Subject: Resize/compress pictures when sending mail In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710291548m113e239dh37254d6de4101c68@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710242035.31576.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291548m113e239dh37254d6de4101c68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710300835.45504.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > All these are very nice but that do you use in firefox? > Do you really use firefox as your file browser? I read that to mean he's asking about sending mail from a firefox interface like on gmail. How to compress in that situation. If he uses my little script (for example) then he can always attach the compressed files it produces and just cancel the kmail window it opens. Or he can change the script. \d From kassube at gmx.net Tue Oct 30 07:55:01 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:55:01 +0100 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <200710300855.01421.kassube@gmx.net> Mike Leone wrote: > One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to > prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for > the card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that > just load up without prompting me every time I log in? In the settings for kwalletmanager at section "Automatic Wallet Selection" you can choose to have a "Different wallet for local passwords". Use that option to get one wallet without password and one with password. Nils From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Tue Oct 30 08:49:40 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:49:40 +0000 Subject: Firefox Realplayer plugin In-Reply-To: <78323d480710291933h5fda2311yb40fe2d9f8f4e32c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <78323d480710291933h5fda2311yb40fe2d9f8f4e32c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710300849.40872.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 02:33:12 Mani A wrote: > On 10/30/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Has anyone here successfully managed to get the RealPlayer working with > > Firefox in Gutsy? I had no problem getting it running in Feisy, but > > nothing I've so far tried has managed to get it working OK. > > Which realplayer did you install in Fiesty ? > It does not work after install . I used the one on http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ IIRC by adding deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main to /etc/apt/sources.list Unfortunately realplay isn't available for Gutsy on that site. From slewin at bmts.com Tue Oct 30 12:23:27 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:23:27 -0400 Subject: Virtual Machine Vs Separate Partition In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710292225l7c740ee6hb2aca3674824f45b@mail.gmail.com> References: <553866.96067.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4722916E.1020901@bmts.com> <9c2aabaf0710292225l7c740ee6hb2aca3674824f45b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4727223F.3040009@bmts.com> Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 10/26/07, Scott wrote: > I've been having pretty good success lately with VirtualBox. It's > open source and quite good. And it has ubuntu packages available. I have been experimenting with VirtualBox and so far I like it. It is very easy to use and haves a nice Gui. It is also designed for a large verity of operating systems. I have been able to get PC-BSD to work and check that out. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From linux_milano at yahoo.it Tue Oct 30 14:00:50 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:00:50 +0100 Subject: kdm login Message-ID: I would like to customize the kdm theme, but changes set in the system admin section apparently cannot be applied. How to let the kdm login prompt to show the list of all users from which to pick up your id? Thank you -- Pol From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 13:10:15 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:10:15 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <2661303.syx9TSdzGv@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Turns out, both Derek and I were right. Well, that seems like a good compromise :-) > After it finishes, and boots for the first time, I see that it's telling > me I am using an Atheros card, and that means it wants to load > restricted drivers. "Hmm", I thought, "*that's* new - don't recall > seeing that before". ... > So what was different? > > The first time I installed Gutsy, I had *only* the wireless card; I had > no wired card inserted. This time, I did have both the wired and > wireless cards inserted during installation. Dunno why it should have > mattered, but apparently it did. I saw something probably similar, installing under feisty. I ended up plugging my computer directly into the router to get a decent install - though the eth0 (wired) and eth1 (wireless) configurations in /etc/iftab were still wrong (I just deleted them). > What I do know is that it's now all Just Working, as I had hoped it > would (and as I guess Derek expected it would). I can't say I "expected" it. NM still has problems with some configurations, but it's the tool that the Ubuntu developers have put their time into, so one _hopes_ that it's going to work at least for straightforward connections (and I did know that it supported WPA). > So all that drama was > for nothing. :-) > > One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to > prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for the > card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that just > load up without prompting me every time I log in? No. Living out in the sticks, and using TLS and HTTPS for anything important, I never bothered to secure my wireless router. I _am_ pretty sure that it can be done (though most of what I remember about it is getting the Gnome version to do the same thing). It's got to do with needing to access the gpg keyring to get your passphrase. Try googling "network manager kde gpg keyring". > > In conclusion, everything is now working for me as it should, and it was > all resolved with the classic Windows method - reinstall from scratch. Ouch :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 13:18:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:18:05 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> <7156d5f20710291238t7292a8e4sc647568ff71cf0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4367003.uWh5MH29x9@cedar.serverforest.com> Steve T wrote: > On 10/29/07, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> >> The attitude is all on your part. >> >> >> Whoops! > Hey, I'm just a passerby here and I even noticed that you jumped all over > this guy for no reason. If you don't like what he says, then move on to > the next thread. It's not that simple - when someone complains that a tool doesn't work, and they're not using it right, they need a little reeducation. If you can't hit a nail, because you're pounding on it with the claw end of the hammer, you do a lot of damage. If you trash Ubuntu because you've removed an important piece of software and can't get a non-standard app to work, you damage Ubuntu's reputation. Ubuntu's not without its bugs - and Network manager in particular - but we have to deal with _those_ not the bugs in alternate packages from universe/multiverse, which are explicitly not Ubuntu supported. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 13:12:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:12:26 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <2741122.JD9zRzODfL@cedar.serverforest.com> <47267DAE.5050505@swbell.net> Message-ID: <23901091.Sf1ohMpIvc@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > I've lost all my e-mail archive over the last couple days, so I can't go > back to the beginning of this thread. > > I have a Belkin/Atheros card. I loaded Gutsy onto my laptop. The card > was recognized and the madwifi installed. For whatever reason I couldn't > get it to work at first. I also wasn't all that thrilled about the > Network Manager interface to the card. I installed Kwifi and all of a > sudden I was able to get the card working. I doubt that installing Kwifi > was directly responsible, Neither do I - but I admit to having kwifi, kwlan and something else installed on my machine all because, once in a while, Network manager refuses to activate my wireless. I haven't used any of them in months, though, so I hope that's fixed... -- derek From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Tue Oct 30 15:00:11 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:00:11 -0700 Subject: Does Gutsy have a memory leak? Message-ID: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> Since upgrading to Gutsy, my Dual Athlon machine runs out of memory (2GB) and the disk starts thrashing in swap. Everything slows to a crawl and the machine is non-responsive. This occurs in KDE with only Firefox and Thunderbird running. It might be related to the Beagle daemon. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Thanks Doug P From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Tue Oct 30 15:17:39 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:17:39 -0700 Subject: Does Gutsy have a memory leak? In-Reply-To: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> References: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <47274B13.9050709@oem.doe.gov> Douglas Phillipson wrote: > Since upgrading to Gutsy, my Dual Athlon machine runs out of memory > (2GB) and the disk starts thrashing in swap. Everything slows to a > crawl and the machine is non-responsive. This occurs in KDE with only > Firefox and Thunderbird running. It might be related to the Beagle daemon. > > Has anyone else seen this behavior? > > Thanks > > Doug P > > Ran a vmstat window while beagled was running. Mem was gobbled up, then beagled died on its own: You can see where it died, free was 51452. Sometimes it dies, sometimes it contitues degrading into swap... 2 0 0 412280 68896 546280 0 0 0 39 16 160 50 1 49 0 procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 2 0 0 360108 68928 546288 0 0 0 81 23 247 50 3 47 0 1 0 0 366536 68940 546288 0 0 0 64 23 235 50 1 48 0 1 0 0 304700 68948 546296 0 0 0 8 19 251 51 2 47 0 1 0 0 313940 68980 546228 0 0 0 78 16 271 60 3 37 0 1 0 0 294232 68980 546244 0 0 0 0 20 273 51 2 47 0 1 0 0 294232 69000 546240 0 0 1 18 14 136 50 1 50 0 1 0 0 294116 69016 546240 0 0 0 17 16 108 50 1 49 0 2 0 0 194788 69024 546248 0 0 0 10 13 329 57 9 34 0 1 0 0 116484 69072 546844 0 0 0 325 31 284 61 6 32 0 1 0 0 119152 69080 546856 0 0 0 32 17 133 50 1 50 0 1 0 0 115612 69096 546856 0 0 0 20 21 129 49 2 49 0 1 0 0 105540 69112 546860 0 0 0 15 13 163 50 1 50 0 1 0 0 110360 69128 546864 0 0 0 22 18 153 50 0 49 0 1 0 0 111448 69160 546876 0 0 0 84 59 238 50 1 49 0 1 0 0 51452 66872 534964 0 0 0 34 25 313 49 2 49 0 0 0 0 1170824 65356 527936 0 0 0 101 19 230 36 4 60 0 0 0 0 1171000 65356 527940 0 0 0 70 112 386 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 1171000 65368 527940 0 0 0 37 70 392 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 1171000 65376 527948 0 0 0 10 16 70 1 0 99 0 From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Oct 30 16:32:26 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:32:26 -0500 Subject: Does Gutsy have a memory leak? In-Reply-To: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> References: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <47275C9A.2080906@swbell.net> Douglas Phillipson wrote: > Since upgrading to Gutsy, my Dual Athlon machine runs out of memory > (2GB) and the disk starts thrashing in swap. Everything slows to a > crawl and the machine is non-responsive. This occurs in KDE with only > Firefox and Thunderbird running. It might be related to the Beagle daemon. > > Has anyone else seen this behavior? > > Thanks > > Doug P > > That stupid dog has been a royal pain. Most OpenSuSE users just either don't install it or delete it as a matter of course. It eats up processor time and memory. Unless you have a REAL use for it don't use it. From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 17:39:35 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:39:35 -0400 Subject: Problem with Archiving .tar Message-ID: <200710301339.36262.cms0009@gmail.com> Since using (K)ubuntu 5 - 7.04 never had a problem with doing this. in my home directory there is .kde dir, then share dir, then apps dir, I used to do this: right click on the apps dir, and select compress as .tar Then I would move that apps.tar to my external usb drive for archive/Backup However... been trying to do this since monday, for some reason, it looks like the compression schema is hanging or something is interfering with compression the folder size is 1.6 GB previouse folder size (7.04) was 1.4 GB So, what gives ? I did compress a small file 500 mb on my desktop (no-problem) but doing inside my home directory, there seems to be problem. Anyone ? TIA Richard From spwhite at freesurf.ch Tue Oct 30 17:48:26 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:48:26 +0100 Subject: kdm login In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 15:00, xpol wrote: > I would like to customize the kdm theme, but changes set in the system > admin section apparently cannot be applied. Oh ? > > How to let the kdm login prompt to show the list of all users from which to > pick up your id? > > Thank you > > -- > Pol I have 2 users, "Perry" is selected by default but needs "root" password and "guest" will autoboot without password after a few seconds if machine is left untouched. I had no problems and I wonder why it doesn't work for you. Could it be because I selected 2 icons for the users, or because I still have Feisty? Hope that helps Perry -- BOFH excuse #410: Electrical conduits in machine room are melting From roger at rogerchrisman.com Tue Oct 30 18:41:51 2007 From: roger at rogerchrisman.com (Roger Chrisman) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:41:51 -0700 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710292231x2345f34do3c15b812f1b0312a@mail.gmail.com> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <9c2aabaf0710292231x2345f34do3c15b812f1b0312a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: > My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the > toolbar.  At least that was easy to add. An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is not a default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of Dolphin is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of the items in the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. Tree view takes up much more space; I don't know any more about that one. Happy waves, Roger From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Oct 30 19:10:45 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:10:45 +0200 Subject: Resetting screen resolution in Gutsy - Solved In-Reply-To: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> References: <47260D4A.4020800@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <472781B5.4050603@rmk.co.il> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I did a clean install on my daughter's P111 with a Gforce2 card - so > installed the nvidia glx drivers and now on a restart the resolution is > stuck on a maximum of 600x800. > I did try: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver.org > but I get an error message 'xserver.org not installed' > > What's the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf ? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > I had originally installed the nvidia glx legacy package (Gforce2 card) - I removed that and installed the 'regular' nvidia glx package and now all is well in the land of 3D and 1024x768 :-) Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Tue Oct 30 20:14:04 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:14:04 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291626x39679ff6hd7657323eafc66d2@mail.gmail.com> <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Tuesday 30 October 2007 00:27:06 schreef Michael Hirsch: > On 10/29/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until > > > > > > just before the kde-login screen. > > > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? > > > > Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do > > this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. > > > > 1. power the system on. > > 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, > > press 'e' to edit it > > 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it > > 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or whatever it > > says 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. > > > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > > > Michael > > BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. > > Michael There is no vga=... option in my menu.lst, so this will not be the answer. More idea's anyone? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Oct 30 20:39:06 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:39:06 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710301639.06192.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday 30 October 2007, Karl wrote: > > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > > > > > Michael > > > > BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. > > > > Michael > > There is no vga=... option in my menu.lst, so this will not be the answer. > More idea's anyone? Try vga=normal ?? From turgon at mike-leone.com Tue Oct 30 20:46:21 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:46:21 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <2661303.syx9TSdzGv@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <2661303.syx9TSdzGv@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4727981D.5090806@mike-leone.com> Derek Broughton wrote: >> One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to >> prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for the >> card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that just >> load up without prompting me every time I log in? > > No. Living out in the sticks, and using TLS and HTTPS for anything > important, I never bothered to secure my wireless router. I live in the city; every neighbor has a wireless router. :-) No, really - my next door neighbor asked me about mine, because she saw my SSID broadcasting through our common wall, and recognized it as mine. She was trying to use the city wireless network, and my router was showing a stronger signal (understandably), and she wondered if she could connect to mine. I explained how that wouldn't really be happening. ;-) While I could turn off broadcasting, it's easier (and safer) to turn on WPA. From paulvarjak at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 20:56:02 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:56:02 +0100 Subject: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Message-ID: <5e33e3860710301356v5219492bg73f0430bf08046ca@mail.gmail.com> Everytime I try to open an X app from the console I see this: my_username at my_computername:~/Desktop$ kicker X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 151 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode: 151 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Can anyone point me in some direction to investigate? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10/30/07, Paul wrote: > > Everytime I try to open an X app from the console I see this: > > my_username at my_computername:~/Desktop$ kicker > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 151 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 151 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > > Can anyone point me in some direction to investigate? > > Paul > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulvarjak at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 21:26:43 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:26:43 +0100 Subject: Problem with Archiving .tar In-Reply-To: <200710301339.36262.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200710301339.36262.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710301426j26963a41r5a2dd853b1db39cc@mail.gmail.com> Hello Richard. I don't have this option in my right button menu. Have you tried to do it manually? In a console, type: cd $HOME/.kde/share tar -cvf /tmp/mytarfile.tar ./apps later I recommend you to do a: gzip /tmp/mytarfile.tar just because tar doesn't compress, just packs the files together. Hope this helps. Paul. On 10/30/07, Richard wrote: > > Since using (K)ubuntu 5 - 7.04 never had a problem with doing this. > in my home directory there is .kde dir, then share dir, then apps dir, > I used to do this: right click on the apps dir, and select compress as > .tar > > Then I would move that apps.tar to my external usb drive for > archive/Backup > However... been trying to do this since monday, for some reason, it looks > like the compression schema is hanging or something is interfering with > compression > the folder size is 1.6 GB previouse folder size (7.04) was 1.4 GB > > So, what gives ? I did compress a small file 500 mb on my desktop > (no-problem) > but doing inside my home directory, there seems to be problem. > > > Anyone ? > > TIA > Richard > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 21:38:12 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:38:12 -0300 Subject: kdm login References: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <1735909.lghFigWmt1@cedar.serverforest.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 15:00, xpol wrote: >> I would like to customize the kdm theme, but changes set in the system >> admin section apparently cannot be applied. > Oh ? >> >> How to let the kdm login prompt to show the list of all users from which >> to pick up your id? > I have 2 users, "Perry" is selected by default but needs "root" password > and "guest" will autoboot without password after a few seconds if machine > is left untouched. > I had no problems and I wonder why it doesn't work for you. > Could it be because I selected 2 icons for the users, or because I still > have Feisty? I didn't have a "pick from list" theme, under Feisty, but when gutsy wanted to replace the config file, I let it, and now that's what I get, so I have to assume that's the gutsy default. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 21:48:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:48:43 -0300 Subject: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 References: <5e33e3860710301356v5219492bg73f0430bf08046ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1672725.69iCdlPhUP@cedar.serverforest.com> Paul wrote: > Everytime I try to open an X app from the console I see this: > > my_username at my_computername:~/Desktop$ kicker > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 151 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 > Major opcode: 151 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > > Can anyone point me in some direction to investigate? Either ignore it, or remove from /etc/X11/xorg.conf the two sections that begin: Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" In the interests of making everything work for everybody, the rest of us get these annoying messages - sometimes to the extent that the .xsession_errors file can get so large as to bring your system (or at least certain apps) to a halt. I'd remove them, except that then every time you upgrade xorg, it'll complain about me editing the conf file -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 21:40:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:40:28 -0300 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <9c2aabaf0710292231x2345f34do3c15b812f1b0312a@mail.gmail.com> <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> Message-ID: <1620547.eRNe3uSMlV@cedar.serverforest.com> Roger Chrisman wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: >> My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the >> toolbar.  At least that was easy to add. > > An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is not a > default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of > Dolphin is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of the > items in the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. > > Tree view takes up much more space; I don't know any more about that one. "much more space" than what? Tree view in Konqueror is detail view with a +/- icon beside directories. It's a very small use of real estate for a hugely useful view. I haven't even looked at Dolphin, yet, and nothing I've heard's making me want to... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 21:44:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:44:44 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <2661303.syx9TSdzGv@cedar.serverforest.com> <4727981D.5090806@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <1889657.hiBLGIldZu@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>> One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to >>> prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for the >>> card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that just >>> load up without prompting me every time I log in? >> >> No. Living out in the sticks, and using TLS and HTTPS for anything >> important, I never bothered to secure my wireless router. > > I live in the city; every neighbor has a wireless router. :-) No, really I'm sure - I've been known to do a little war driving. > - my next door neighbor asked me about mine, because she saw my SSID > broadcasting through our common wall, and recognized it as mine. She was > trying to use the city wireless network, and my router was showing a > stronger signal (understandably), and she wondered if she could connect > to mine. I explained how that wouldn't really be happening. ;-) > > While I could turn off broadcasting, it's easier (and safer) to turn on > WPA. Actually, while using Network Manager I'm not sure you _can_ turn off broadcasting. I don't subscribe to the devel list anymore, so it may have changed, but it didn't used to connect to hidden ssids, and I got the impression the developers were against letting it, on the grounds that hiding an SSID is poor security. It is, but if the network you have to connect to has no broadcast SSID, it's not helpful to tell the users to complain to the sysadmins. -- derek From linux_milano at yahoo.it Tue Oct 30 23:06:39 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:06:39 +0100 Subject: kdm login References: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 15:00, xpol wrote: >> I would like to customize the kdm theme, but changes set in the system >> admin section apparently cannot be applied. > Oh ? >> I mean setting-->login manager --> appearance is ignored, if setting-->kdm theme is enabled. Probably that is a feature, but the admin should be warned of that. > I had no problems and I wonder why it doesn't work for you. > Could it be because I selected 2 icons for the users, or because I still > have Feisty? > Yes i had the previous version. Now upgraded it is ok thank you - Pol From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 22:32:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:32:02 -0300 Subject: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 References: <5e33e3860710301356v5219492bg73f0430bf08046ca@mail.gmail.com> <5e33e3860710301423s786d814bpda65662af193c603@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1193784223.goZnC92DeI@cedar.serverforest.com> Paul wrote: > Answering myself: > > Go to xorg.conf and delete the wacom devices. > > Thanks Paul. You're welcome. Well, damn! Now that you've given yourself one answer, you're never going to get any rest. You'll keep asking yourself questions until you're ready to shoot yourself! -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 30 22:30:47 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:30:47 -0300 Subject: Problem with Archiving .tar References: <200710301339.36262.cms0009@gmail.com> <5e33e3860710301426j26963a41r5a2dd853b1db39cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1360425.c2cXVc0en4@cedar.serverforest.com> Paul wrote: > Hello Richard. > > I don't have this option in my right button menu. I do - never used it until Richard asked, though... > Have you tried to do it manually? it is, of course, important to do that, to determine where the problem really is. > > In a console, type: > cd $HOME/.kde/share > tar -cvf /tmp/mytarfile.tar ./apps tar -zcvf /tmp/mytarfile.tgz ./apps > > later I recommend you to do a: > gzip /tmp/mytarfile.tar > > just because tar doesn't compress, just packs the files together. That's TWO people who've said that!! Of course it does: $ tar --help | egrep "\-[zj]" --no-ignore-command-error treat non-zero exit codes of children as -i, --ignore-zeros ignore zeroed blocks in archive (means EOF) -j, --bzip2 filter the archive through bzip2 -z, --gzip, --gunzip, --ungzip filter the archive through gzip -- derek From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 00:01:47 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:01:47 -0500 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200710301901.47368.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 03:14:04 pm Karl wrote: > Op Tuesday 30 October 2007 00:27:06 schreef Michael Hirsch: > > On 10/29/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > > > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub until > > > > > > > just before the kde-login screen. > > > > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? > > > > > > Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do > > > this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. > > > > > > 1. power the system on. > > > 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, > > > press 'e' to edit it > > > 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it > > > 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or whatever > > > it says 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. > > > > > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > > > > > Michael > > > > BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. > > > > Michael > > There is no vga=... option in my menu.lst, so this will not be the answer. > More idea's anyone? make sure your menu.lst file has something similar to: title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID= ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic quiet The "quiet splash" part is what you need. Then, if that's there you need to check for the "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" package. If that's not installed install it, and you should be in good shape. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From claydoh at midmaine.com Wed Oct 31 01:07:42 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:07:42 -0400 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <1620547.eRNe3uSMlV@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> <1620547.eRNe3uSMlV@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710302107.42188.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 5:40:28 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Roger Chrisman wrote: > > On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: > >> My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the > >> toolbar.  At least that was easy to add. > > > > An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is not > > a default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of > > Dolphin is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of the > > items in the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. > > > > Tree view takes up much more space; I don't know any more about that one. > > "much more space" than what? Tree view in Konqueror is detail view with a > +/- icon beside directories. It's a very small use of real estate for a > hugely useful view. > > I haven't even looked at Dolphin, yet, and nothing I've heard's making me > want to... > -- > derek According to this link, http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/03/dolphin-gets-treeview-krunner-gets.html tree view should be in Dolphin (if its not already there- haven't played with kde4 in a bit) so it will be available. I don't think the version in kde3.5 (actually called D3lphin) will get it, though. I like the file manager quite a bit, and from what I see, it will be even better in kde4 so I am looking forward to using it. clay From turgon at mike-leone.com Wed Oct 31 01:09:14 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:09:14 -0400 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <200710300855.01421.kassube@gmx.net> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <200710300855.01421.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4727D5BA.9060903@mike-leone.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Mike Leone wrote: > >> One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to >> prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for >> the card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make that >> just load up without prompting me every time I log in? >> > > In the settings for kwalletmanager at section "Automatic Wallet Selection" > you can choose to have a "Different wallet for local passwords". Use that > option to get one wallet without password and one with password. > But how do you tell an application which wallet to choose? I did this, and knetworkmanager still wanted the "kde wallet", and not the new one I created, and I can't see a way to tell it which wallet to use ... From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 01:15:11 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:15:11 -0400 Subject: Distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 hangs on "configuring libgcc1" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4727D71F.10703@sbcglobal.net> darshak shah wrote: > I tried to upgrade from 7.04 version to 7.10 using the adept package > manager. > I had kept the machine in the office over the weekend for > installation, it had successfully downloaded all the upgrades, > And when it tried to install them, it was hung on "configuring > libgcc1" for a long time. > > After that, I closed the upgrade process manually, and rebooted the > machine twice. > Then when I tried to open the adept manager again, it gives me this error. > > "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some > other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > other application before using this one." > > > I have no other application running which is locking the package manager. > I suspect that when I closed the "Distribution Upgrade" manually, it > has not released/deleted the corresponding lock file. > > After this step I was trying to run "sudo apt-get update" on the > command line. > This step ends with this error. > " > Fetched 6B in 4s (1B/s) > E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' > to correct the problem. > " > > And when I tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" I get the following error. > > darshak at darshak-machine:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0006' near line 2 > package `libc6': > `triggers-pendi' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field > > I have no idea how to move ahead from this step. > I want to upgrade my distribution to 7.10, and I have all the > necessary packages downloaded in my "/var/cache/apt/archives/" which > is approx 1.4 GB, which I do not want the apt manager to download again. > > Thank you in Advance! > > Regards, > > Darshak I don't have the experience to help you, however I had the same response of another program running. Unfortunately, I lost my record of the solution and don't know how to get it back. One word I remember from the help I got was the word 'grep'. What was involved was finding applications running in the background, then removing them with sudokill as I recall. If that makes any sense to you, when you get to that point and remove those active programs that are running in the back ground, you should be able to return to a working Adept Package Manager. I hope this helps; I have been watching for someone to give you the accurate solution. I believe I would recognize it if I saw it again. Anyway, I hope this will help you - perhaps by just looking at the problem from a different direction. Cordially, Steven Vollom, fine-artist retired and Kubuntu Linux noob From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 01:47:13 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:47:13 -0600 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <9c2aabaf0710292231x2345f34do3c15b812f1b0312a@mail.gmail.com> <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0710301847i8f8aef9g8f5cacc543d5e436@mail.gmail.com> On 10/30/07, Roger Chrisman wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: > > My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the > > toolbar. At least that was easy to add. > > An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is not a > default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of Dolphin > is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of the items in > the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. True. I don't use the breadcrumb view by default, so I never thought of doing it that way. The Dolphin docs show the up button, so someone thought it should be there. Michael From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Oct 31 01:57:35 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:57:35 -0500 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <200710302107.42188.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> <1620547.eRNe3uSMlV@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710302107.42188.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <4727E10F.3060506@swbell.net> Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 5:40:28 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Roger Chrisman wrote: >> >>> On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: >>> >>>> My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the >>>> toolbar. At least that was easy to add. >>>> >>> An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is not >>> a default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of >>> Dolphin is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of the >>> items in the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. >>> >>> Tree view takes up much more space; I don't know any more about that one. >>> >> "much more space" than what? Tree view in Konqueror is detail view with a >> +/- icon beside directories. It's a very small use of real estate for a >> hugely useful view. >> >> I haven't even looked at Dolphin, yet, and nothing I've heard's making me >> want to... >> -- >> derek >> > > According to this link, > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/03/dolphin-gets-treeview-krunner-gets.html > tree view should be in Dolphin (if its not already there- haven't played with > kde4 in a bit) so it will be available. I don't think the version in kde3.5 > (actually called D3lphin) will get it, though. > > I like the file manager quite a bit, and from what I see, it will be even > better in kde4 so I am looking forward to using it. > > clay > The only thing "wrong" with Dolphin is that it's "different". There are some people in the world that are unwilling to change. Given a chance I think Dolphin is a pretty good thing. Just takes someone willing to give it a try. The only universal constant is change. Get over it. From yogich7230 at sc2000.net Wed Oct 31 02:35:24 2007 From: yogich7230 at sc2000.net (Yogich7230) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:35:24 -0500 Subject: BlackBerry & Gutsy Bluetooth Message-ID: <200710302135.29211.yogich7230@sc2000.net> I cannot seem to get my BB to transfer files w/Gutsy, though it shows in the BB icon shows up in File Mgr. My RAZR is absolutely NO PROBLEM. Anyone else have success with this? -- ...Yogich BlackBerry has not heard about 'bottom posting' ...so I use KMail.. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From Riccardo.Veraldi at cnaf.infn.it Wed Oct 31 07:21:17 2007 From: Riccardo.Veraldi at cnaf.infn.it (Riccardo Veraldi) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:21:17 +0100 Subject: X won't start after update Message-ID: <47282CED.1090103@cnaf.infn.it> Hello, after updating to 7.10 when the system starts up I am put into a root console. After exiting te shell the system continue to boot regularly until Gnome starts. This happens at every reboot after upgrade. Anyone knows what this could be due to ? The inittab file is all commented out. thanks Rick From tanghus at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 07:53:49 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:53:49 +0200 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <1889657.hiBLGIldZu@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <4727981D.5090806@mike-leone.com> <1889657.hiBLGIldZu@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710310853.50470.tanghus@gmail.com> On Tue 30 October 2007 22:44, Derek Broughton wrote: > Actually, while using Network Manager I'm not sure you _can_ turn off > broadcasting. I don't subscribe to the devel list anymore, so it may have > changed, but it didn't used to connect to hidden ssids, and I got the > impression the developers were against letting it, on the grounds that > hiding an SSID is poor security. It is, but if the network you have to > connect to has no broadcast SSID, it's not helpful to tell the users to > complain to the sysadmins. > -- > derek You tur off broadcasting this SSID in the router/AP, not in NetworkManager. And NM has a menu-entry to connect to other networks and that is used to connect to a network that doesn't broadcast its SSID. It least it was like that last time I used NM. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen Your picture of the world often changes just before you get it into focus. From ed.lau at mail.ee Wed Oct 31 09:47:40 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:47:40 +0200 Subject: Firefox Realplayer plugin In-Reply-To: <200710300849.40872.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <78323d480710291933h5fda2311yb40fe2d9f8f4e32c@mail.gmail.com> <200710300849.40872.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <47284F3C.9030403@mail.ee> > I used the one on http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ > IIRC by adding > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main > to /etc/apt/sources.list > Unfortunately realplay isn't available for Gutsy on that site. Currently I suggest to use the address http://www.real.com/linux to download Realplayer for Ubuntu 7.10 I used it myself and everything works like a charm. From ed.lau at mail.ee Wed Oct 31 10:11:37 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:11:37 +0200 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros wireless - my experience In-Reply-To: <47261F54.6050402@gmail.com> References: <47251109.6030506@mike-leone.com> <17315283.DMfiCmrbR2@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071029164525.GI23216@localhost> <47261F54.6050402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <472854D9.2060008@mail.ee> > I know I am top-posting but I would try WICD (works fine with WPA and x > number of other methods) > http://wicd.sourceforge.net Also your WiFi network adapter should support WPA or WPA2: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=testing Actually in that table is written, that Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN 802.11g does not support WPA but I got WPA2 working with Kubuntu 7.04, wicd and Windows version of network adapter driver over ndiswrapper with this card :) I'm using 60-character passphrase for that network adapter and Linksys WRT-54GL v1.1 router (chipset is Broadcom 5352, CPU is 200MHz and RAM 16MB) with DD-WRT v2.3 SP2 firmware. But I can confirm, that wicd just rocks! Some more reading: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/ http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Oct 31 09:15:50 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:15:50 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - switch user logout problem Message-ID: <472847C6.10006@rmk.co.il> I have a couple of computers with fresh installs of Gutsy (copied back the users [complete] Home files) and when I 'Switch User' (right click on the desktop) I can log into another user account and everything works OK until I logout (right click on the desktop) - It takes a few [long] seconds and the desktop disappears BUT then I am left with a black screen with the mouse pointer still responding. I can switch back to the original user account by 'Alt Ctr F7' but then right clicking on the desktop shows that I am still logged in to the other account (vt9). This also happens if I log into another [virtual terminal] account 'Alt Ctr F1' - do some apt-get installing, then logout (it returns me to a login prompt) BUT switching back to 'Alt Ctr F7' and right clicking on the desktop shows that I am still logged in to the other account (vt1). I like to use GKrellm and it shows that I still have more than one user active. What gives? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 31 09:16:36 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:16:36 +0000 Subject: Firefox Realplayer plugin In-Reply-To: <47284F3C.9030403@mail.ee> References: <200710292230.18554.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <200710300849.40872.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <47284F3C.9030403@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200710310916.37057.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 09:47:40 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > I used the one on http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ > > IIRC by adding > > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main > > to /etc/apt/sources.list > > Unfortunately realplay isn't available for Gutsy on that site. > > Currently I suggest to use the address http://www.real.com/linux to > download Realplayer for Ubuntu 7.10 > > I used it myself and everything works like a charm. I tried that after the other way didn't work, but I still couldn't get it to work within Firefox. From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Oct 31 13:47:01 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:47:01 +0200 Subject: disk-on-key ownership Message-ID: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> I just bought a Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB Flash Drive (1GB) and using Knoppix and Qtparted, formatted it into 3 partitions - 630mb ext2, 250mb linux-swap (for using with my [old] 64mb laptop [sans hard disk] with Puppy Linux) and the rest as fat16. When I stick the USB drive in my Kubuntu box it auto mounts both the ext2 and fat16 partitions. The fat16 gets 'User: nigel Group: root'. The ext2 gets 'User: root Group: root'. I cannot write to the ext2 partition. I have tried changing the ownership by issuing: sudo chown nigel /dev/sdb1 but it remains the same - root root How do I make it writable by yours truly? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From mdshaw89 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:53:32 2007 From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:53:32 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: <200710301901.47368.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <9c2aabaf0710291627y6da08e91i3010e4223788b482@mail.gmail.com> <200710302114.04999.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710301901.47368.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/30/07, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 03:14:04 pm Karl wrote: > > Op Tuesday 30 October 2007 00:27:06 schreef Michael Hirsch: > > > On 10/29/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > > On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > > > > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > > > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub > until > > > > > > > > just before the kde-login screen. > > > > > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? > > > > > > > > Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do > > > > this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. > > > > > > > > 1. power the system on. > > > > 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, > > > > press 'e' to edit it > > > > 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it > > > > 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or > whatever > > > > it says 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. > > > > > > > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. > > > > > > Michael > > > > There is no vga=... option in my menu.lst, so this will not be the > answer. > > More idea's anyone? > > make sure your menu.lst file has something similar to: > > title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic > root (hd0,5) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID= ro > quiet splash > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic > quiet > > The "quiet splash" part is what you need. > > Then, if that's there you need to check for the "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" > package. If that's not installed install it, and you should be in good > shape. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > Well I have be slogging along this problem with the rest of you and the following fixed me: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen I set mine to 1024x768(791) and it worked like a charm! Turns out my /etc/usplash.conf was set to 1280x1024, which my T41 will not do. l8r, Mike Shaw -- "Darn bushes yowling at me again." - Old Man Wickles in Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 14:53:04 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:53:04 +0100 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <4727D5BA.9060903@mike-leone.com> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <200710300855.01421.kassube@gmx.net> <4727D5BA.9060903@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <200710311553.04306.kassube@gmx.net> Mike Leone wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Mike Leone wrote: > >> One last thing that still annoys me is that KNetworkManager needs to > >> prompt me for my KDE Wallet password, before it loads up support for > >> the card and activates it, when I log in. Anyone know how to make > >> that just load up without prompting me every time I log in? > > > > In the settings for kwalletmanager at section "Automatic Wallet > > Selection" you can choose to have a "Different wallet for local > > passwords". Use that option to get one wallet without password and > > one with password. > > But how do you tell an application which wallet to choose? I did this, > and knetworkmanager still wanted the "kde wallet", and not the new one > I created, and I can't see a way to tell it which wallet to use ... Well, I got the idea of using a separate wallet for network passwords from the help file. However, it seems you really can't select which wallet to use by a particular program. From the source code I found out that the default wallet is used for storing all network related passwords, i.e. it is used by knetworkmanager but also by kmail and probably other programs. But I don't know which programs would use the local wallet. Nils From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Wed Oct 31 15:27:09 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:27:09 -0700 Subject: How do you find the dependencies an app requires Message-ID: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> How do you discover all an applications dependencies? Thanks Doug P From sniffy at rogers.com Wed Oct 31 15:30:33 2007 From: sniffy at rogers.com (Chris Gow) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:30:33 -0400 Subject: can not run kde4.0 beta 3 on gutsy Message-ID: <200710311130.33760.sniffy@rogers.com> Hi all: I seem to be unable to start a KDE 4.0 session on gutsy, I was able to start beta 2 when it was provided in the gutsy pre-releases. Now whenever I select a KDE 4 session from KDM, it begins to load and then kicks me back to my kdm screen. I've tried logging in as my normal user and I've also tried creating a new user and logging in as that user to no avail. In my .xsession-errors file I see the following errors: kdeinit4: PID 12152 terminated. kdeinit4_wrapper: Warning: connect(/home/kde4user/.kde/socket-tatooine/kdeinit4__1) failed: : No such file or directory kdeinit4: PID 12153 terminated. QDBusConnection received a message of type 3 that it shouldn't have ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libkpty.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory startkde: Shutting down... kdeinit4_wrapper: Warning: connect(/home/kde4user/.kde/socket-tatooine/kdeinit4_ _1) failed: : No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit4! It appears that the kdeinit4__1 directory does not get created, in fact I do not see any directory or file in socket-tatooine. I am using the packages that come with gutsy. any advice/pointers? thanks -- chris From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Wed Oct 31 15:43:29 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:43:29 +0000 Subject: User groups Message-ID: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) Thanks Neil Winchurst From sniffy at rogers.com Wed Oct 31 15:50:34 2007 From: sniffy at rogers.com (Chris Gow) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:50:34 -0400 Subject: can not run kde4.0 beta 3 on gutsy - solved In-Reply-To: <200710311130.33760.sniffy@rogers.com> References: <200710311130.33760.sniffy@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200710311150.34942.sniffy@rogers.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 11:30:33 Chris Gow wrote: > Hi all: > > I seem to be unable to start a KDE 4.0 session on gutsy, I was able to > start beta 2 when it was provided in the gutsy pre-releases. Now whenever I > select a KDE 4 session from KDM, it begins to load and then kicks me back > to my kdm screen. I've tried logging in as my normal user and I've also > tried creating a new user and logging in as that user to no avail. > > In my .xsession-errors file I see the following errors: > > kdeinit4: PID 12152 terminated. > kdeinit4_wrapper: Warning: > connect(/home/kde4user/.kde/socket-tatooine/kdeinit4__1) failed: : No such > file or directory > kdeinit4: PID 12153 terminated. > QDBusConnection received a message of type 3 that it shouldn't have > ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libkpty.so: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > startkde: Shutting down... > kdeinit4_wrapper: Warning: > connect(/home/kde4user/.kde/socket-tatooine/kdeinit4_ > _1) failed: : No such file or directory > Error: Can't contact kdeinit4! > > It appears that the kdeinit4__1 directory does not get created, in fact I > do not see any directory or file in socket-tatooine. > > I am using the packages that come with gutsy. > > any advice/pointers? > Go to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php follow instructions. Looks like an additional package needs to be installed. Installing it makes everything work (well, for a beta anyway) -- chris From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Oct 31 15:56:05 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and > specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and > useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the > country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) a) This is not a user group. b) Try google From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Oct 31 16:13:47 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:13:47 +0000 Subject: How do you find the dependencies an app requires In-Reply-To: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> References: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <4728A9BB.30002@stdin.me.uk> Douglas Phillipson wrote: > How do you discover all an applications dependencies? > > Thanks > > Doug P > > "apt-cache show " and look at the "Depends:" line or just: "apt-cache depends " If you want to know the dependencies so you can install a package on a system with no net access you should just run: "sudo apt-get --print-uris install ", that will print out the URLs of all the packages you need as well as the file name you need to save them as in /var/cache/apt/archives/ Terence From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 16:38:32 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:38:32 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems Message-ID: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. :~$ sudo konqueror [sudo] password for mickey: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. From lists at amyl.org.uk Wed Oct 31 16:56:11 2007 From: lists at amyl.org.uk (Adam McGreggor) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:56:11 +0000 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20071031165611.GF32620@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:38:32PM -0400, mickey wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? > I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message > Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem > Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. > > :~$ sudo konqueror > [sudo] password for mickey: > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. My -guess- is that sudo's being an arse: i'd try su'ing -- but i'm not one of those who thinks using root's a bad-thing. Or try "sudo -i" (as ever, manpages are your friend) From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Oct 31 16:58:25 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:58:25 -0500 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <4728B431.4090906@swbell.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and > specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and > useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the > country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) > > Thanks > > Neil Winchurst > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 17:02:16 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:02:16 +0100 Subject: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 In-Reply-To: <1193784223.goZnC92DeI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <5e33e3860710301356v5219492bg73f0430bf08046ca@mail.gmail.com> <5e33e3860710301423s786d814bpda65662af193c603@mail.gmail.com> <1193784223.goZnC92DeI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710311002s75586ddbh66bfb774928475dc@mail.gmail.com> Wow... I never saw it from this point of view. Definitely I'm screwed up. Paul. On 10/30/07, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > > Answering myself: > > > > Go to xorg.conf and delete the wacom devices. > > > > Thanks Paul. You're welcome. > > Well, damn! Now that you've given yourself one answer, you're never going > to get any rest. You'll keep asking yourself questions until you're ready > to shoot yourself! > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Oct 31 17:03:11 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:03:11 -0500 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4728B54F.5050107@swbell.net> On 10/31/2007 Bruce Marshall wrote: > a) This is not a user group. > > b) Try google Attitude is everything. From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 17:04:44 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:04:44 +0100 Subject: Dolphin - tree view? In-Reply-To: <4727E10F.3060506@swbell.net> References: <471EE0BA.2070600@rmk.co.il> <200710301141.51796.roger@rogerchrisman.com> <1620547.eRNe3uSMlV@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710302107.42188.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4727E10F.3060506@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5e33e3860710311004wa11cec5nb1d190655ed90076@mail.gmail.com> I tried it at first some months ago and I didn't like it, so I came back to Konq. I tried it again yesterday, and now I love it. I don't know what to think. Paul. On 10/31/07, Billie Walsh wrote: > > Clay Weber wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 5:40:28 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > > >> Roger Chrisman wrote: > >> > >>> On Monday 29 October 2007 10:31:58 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: > >>> > >>>> My dolphin config didn't even have the "up one level" button on the > >>>> toolbar. At least that was easy to add. > >>>> > >>> An up one button is redundant in Dolphin. That is probably why it is > not > >>> a default item. The bread crumbs "you are here" line across the top of > >>> Dolphin is the one click way back up to wherever -- just click one of > the > >>> items in the bread crumbs "you are here" line to jump back up to it. > >>> > >>> Tree view takes up much more space; I don't know any more about that > one. > >>> > >> "much more space" than what? Tree view in Konqueror is detail view > with a > >> +/- icon beside directories. It's a very small use of real estate for > a > >> hugely useful view. > >> > >> I haven't even looked at Dolphin, yet, and nothing I've heard's making > me > >> want to... > >> -- > >> derek > >> > > > > According to this link, > > > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/03/dolphin-gets-treeview-krunner-gets.html > > tree view should be in Dolphin (if its not already there- haven't played > with > > kde4 in a bit) so it will be available. I don't think the version in > kde3.5 > > (actually called D3lphin) will get it, though. > > > > I like the file manager quite a bit, and from what I see, it will be > even > > better in kde4 so I am looking forward to using it. > > > > clay > > > > The only thing "wrong" with Dolphin is that it's "different". There are > some people in the world that are unwilling to change. Given a chance I > think Dolphin is a pretty good thing. Just takes someone willing to give > it a try. > > The only universal constant is change. Get over it. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 17:11:51 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:11:51 +0100 Subject: kdm login In-Reply-To: <1735909.lghFigWmt1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1735909.lghFigWmt1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710311811.51390.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Tuesday 30 October 2007 22:38:12 Derek Broughton wrote: > I didn't have a "pick from list" theme, under Feisty, but when gutsy wanted > to replace the config file, I let it, and now that's what I get, so I have > to assume that's the gutsy default. I'm using the no-userlist theme. Is that what you wish to have back? It can be achieved through kcontrol and provided that you install kdm-theme manager first. Then you do a Alt+F2, type kcontrol and go to (I'm translating roughly here) the administrator tab and KDM Theme Manger. Get root privileges and choose your favourite favour there. Note that the preview is wrong for no-userlist. Go ahead, as it might seem it's not doing its jog, reboot, and there you have it. At least I had. Just in case it doesn't work, you can do as I did while in beta when KDM was locked up: as root make a backup and then copy all files from "no-userlist" to "pick from list". -- lanzen From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 17:16:44 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:16:44 +0100 Subject: kdm login In-Reply-To: References: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200710311816.44205.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 00:06:39 xpol wrote: > I mean setting-->login manager --> appearance is ignored, if  setting-->kdm > theme is enabled. I can get into both. Or have I misunderstood something? -- lanzen From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 17:41:54 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:41:54 +0100 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> mickey wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? > I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message > Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem > Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. > > :~$ sudo konqueror Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. Nils From lanzenesi at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 17:56:58 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:56:58 +0100 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: > Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. No joy. ;) But it's got something to do with permissions, doesn't it? -- lanzen From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 18:18:14 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:18:14 +0100 Subject: kde4beta3 Message-ID: <5e33e3860710311118p5aa50db6n985c5bea391d75a2@mail.gmail.com> I've run kde 4 following this instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php I made the steps needed to open a full session, but the only thing I had once opened was an empty desktop with a very big horrible flower in the middle, a clock, and nothing else. Maybe I'm missing something... ? Paul. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 18:22:27 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:22:27 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> Nils Kassube wrote: > mickey wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? >> I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message >> Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem >> Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. >> >> :~$ sudo konqueror >> > > Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. > > > Nils > > Same thing happens , "kdesu" goes through "su" From sniffy at rogers.com Wed Oct 31 18:28:36 2007 From: sniffy at rogers.com (Chris Gow) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:28:36 -0400 Subject: kde4beta3 In-Reply-To: <5e33e3860710311118p5aa50db6n985c5bea391d75a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e33e3860710311118p5aa50db6n985c5bea391d75a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710311428.36628.sniffy@rogers.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 14:18:14 Paul wrote: > I've run kde 4 following this instructions: > > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php > > I made the steps needed to open a full session, but the only thing I had > once opened was an empty desktop with a very big horrible flower in the > middle, a clock, and nothing else. > > Maybe I'm missing something... ? not really, to run applications you need to right-click on the desktop and select Run Application or runner (can't recall off the top of my head the exact string) and type in the actual application name (eg. dolphin, konqueror, kontact, etc...) If you hover over the big gear in the upper left corner you'll be able to add some additional 'plasmoids'. Not all of them worked for me. I was able to get the photo one and the battery one to work. the panel and application launcher didn't work I'd be curious to know if kubuntu will be releasing beta4 packages as beta 4 was released yesterday -- chris From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 18:27:52 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:27:52 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4728C928.3060204@sbcglobal.net> mickey wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> mickey wrote: >> >> >>> Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? >>> I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message >>> Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem >>> Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. >>> >>> :~$ sudo konqueror >>> >>> >> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >> >> >> Nils >> >> >> > Same thing happens , "kdesu" goes through "su" > kdesu konqueror > xauth: /home/mickey/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored > kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0 > passprompt > > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > mickey at mickey-desktop:~$ > > > heres what i get; kdesu konqueror xauth: /home/mickey/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0 passprompt Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. mickey at mickey-desktop:~$ From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 18:35:40 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:35:40 +0100 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> lanzen wrote: > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: > > Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. > > No joy. ;) > > But it's got something to do > with permissions, doesn't it? The question is: Does it start Konqueror as root? When I use "kdesu konqueror" from Konsole, I get the same error messages but it does start konqueror as root. Therefore I don't see a real problem. Many KDE programs have lots of meaningless error messages when startet from a terminal - and I ignore the error messages unless there is really something not working. Nils From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 18:37:14 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:37:14 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4728CB5A.3050502@sbcglobal.net> mickey wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> mickey wrote: >> >> >>> Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? >>> I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message >>> Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem >>> Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. >>> >>> :~$ sudo konqueror >>> >>> >> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >> >> >> Nils >> >> >> > > These are permissions for .Xauthority in /home/mickey -rw------- 1 root root 169 2007-10-31 12:13 .Xauthority -rw------- 2 mickey mickey 0 2007-10-31 14:24 .Xauthority-c -rw------- 2 mickey mickey 0 2007-10-31 14:24 .Xauthority-l From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 18:50:50 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:50:50 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4728CE8A.1060808@sbcglobal.net> Nils Kassube wrote: > lanzen wrote: > >> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: >> >>> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >>> >> No joy. ;) >> >> But it's got something to do >> with permissions, doesn't it? >> > > The question is: Does it start Konqueror as root? When I use "kdesu > konqueror" from Konsole, I get the same error messages but it does start > konqueror as root. Therefore I don't see a real problem. Many KDE > programs have lots of meaningless error messages when startet from a > terminal - and I ignore the error messages unless there is really > something not working. > > > Nils > > It starts Konqueror, but not su, because if I try to edit I don't have write permissions in / . From karlok at fastmail.fm Wed Oct 31 18:59:08 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:59:08 -0700 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728C928.3060204@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> <4728C928.3060204@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4728D07C.90704@fastmail.fm> mickey wrote: > heres what i get; > > kdesu konqueror > xauth: /home/mickey/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored > kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0 > passprompt > It looks to me like you need to allow root to connect to the X server. As the normal use run: xhost +LOCAL: (can add this to .bashrc) That will allow a local user (e.g. root) to have access to your X server. To undo that after: xhost -LOCAL: Karl From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 19:01:12 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (mickey) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:01:12 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728CE8A.1060808@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> <4728CE8A.1060808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4728D0F8.1030104@sbcglobal.net> mickey wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> lanzen wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >>>> >>> No joy. ;) >>> >>> But it's got something to do >>> with permissions, doesn't it? >>> >> >> The question is: Does it start Konqueror as root? When I use "kdesu >> konqueror" from Konsole, I get the same error messages but it does >> start konqueror as root. Therefore I don't see a real problem. Many >> KDE programs have lots of meaningless error messages when startet >> from a terminal - and I ignore the error messages unless there is >> really something not working. >> >> >> Nils >> >> > It starts Konqueror, but not su, because if I try to edit I don't have > write permissions in / . > I get the same results if I try to "kdesu dolphin" From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 18:25:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:25:04 -0300 Subject: disk-on-key ownership References: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <8416198.qHW6gu02VC@cedar.serverforest.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just bought a Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB Flash Drive (1GB) and using > Knoppix and Qtparted, formatted it into 3 partitions - 630mb ext2, 250mb > linux-swap (for using with my [old] 64mb laptop [sans hard disk] with > Puppy Linux) and the rest as fat16. > > When I stick the USB drive in my Kubuntu box it auto mounts both the > ext2 and fat16 partitions. The fat16 gets 'User: nigel Group: root'. The > ext2 gets 'User: root Group: root'. I cannot write to the ext2 partition. > > I have tried changing the ownership by issuing: > sudo chown nigel /dev/sdb1 > but it remains the same - root root > > How do I make it writable by yours truly? I'm afraid I don't know, but I really have doubts that swap can work (in the long term) on a flash drive. For the most part, the system tries to buffer flash drives in memory, because they have limited write lifes. If you use if for swap, it can't do that, but if you actually hit the memory limits of your machine and it starts thrashing, you could use up the life of that drive pretty quickly. It would be much more advantageous to use a genuine USB drive. -- derek From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 19:10:25 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:10:25 +0100 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728D07C.90704@fastmail.fm> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <4728C928.3060204@sbcglobal.net> <4728D07C.90704@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <200710312010.25291.kassube@gmx.net> Karl wrote: > mickey wrote: > > heres what i get; > > > > kdesu konqueror > > xauth: /home/mickey/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be > > ignored kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for > > display :0.0 passprompt > > It looks to me like you need to allow root to connect to the X server. > > As the normal use run: > xhost +LOCAL: > (can add this to .bashrc) > > That will allow a local user (e.g. root) to have access to your X > server. To undo that after: > xhost -LOCAL: That's what kdesu is used for. It is usually a bad idea to allow every local user access to your screen. IMHO, if (and only if) you are the only user on the machine and nobody has access to the machine via network, it is not a real problem. But here the problem seems not to be access to the screen anyway. Nils From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 18:29:42 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:29:42 -0300 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <4727981D.5090806@mike-leone.com> <1889657.hiBLGIldZu@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710310853.50470.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1342686.9C23xoTE1g@cedar.serverforest.com> Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Tue 30 October 2007 22:44, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Actually, while using Network Manager I'm not sure you _can_ turn off >> broadcasting. I don't subscribe to the devel list anymore, so it may >> have changed, but it didn't used to connect to hidden ssids, and I got >> the impression the developers were against letting it, on the grounds >> that >> hiding an SSID is poor security. It is, but if the network you have to >> connect to has no broadcast SSID, it's not helpful to tell the users to >> complain to the sysadmins. > > You tur off broadcasting this SSID in the router/AP, not in > NetworkManager. yes, I knew that, and didn't suggest that you would turn it off in NM. > And NM has a menu-entry to connect to other networks and > that is used to connect to a network that doesn't broadcast its SSID. It > least it was like that last time I used NM. Last time I checked you can't do that on a secured network - with either WEP or WPA. It only worked for unsecured networks. -- derek From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Oct 31 19:16:44 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:16:44 -0500 Subject: Fiddly Little Problems Message-ID: <4728D49C.2050006@swbell.net> Kubuntu 7.10. All up to date. 1) Screen savers won't work. Doesn't seem to make any difference which ones. None will work. I hate the power saver thing. For this next one I need to give a little background. I have been using OpenSuSE for the past two-plus years. Latest version 10.2 [ not to sure I will try 10.3 ]. OpenSuSE has "Yast" to do just about anything that needs to be done to a computer. Thus I will probably mention SuSE a few times. 2) Is there a hardware configuration software available? Hopefully something in a GUI. I'm not very CLI friendly. 2a) I need to configure my TV card. In OpenSuSE I can configure the proper card, not just the chip set. It ALWAYS worked better under SuSE when the card was configured. Not an "end-of-the-earth" problem but it would be nice to have it working. 2b) Lately I have had to reload completely twice because of an IDTenT error. SuSE had Sax2 that could be run from the command line rescue boot to reset the video configuration. Is there something similar for K/Ubuntu? 3) I can't access any of the other drives on my system. Returns a message from Hal [ Open the pod bay door Hal. I can't do that Dave. ] - "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" [ I said open the pod bay door Hal. I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that. ]. Both drives are SATA. One contains Win XP and the other is OpenSuSE 10.2. It would be nice to be able to transfer some files between the drives once in a while. A few versions of SuSE back this used to be transparent. Since Hal(9000) came along it hardly ever works as advertised. [ Could someone call Dr. Chandra ] 4) In my searching I have seen reference to making an ISO of your system that is bootable and will reinstall your system as it was when the ISO was made for when IDTenT errors occur. I have Mondo and Mindi installed but can't seem to find/figure out how to get the process started. The instructions on the Mondo site don't work. Comes back with an error that bash can't do something. Any other suggestions for a way to do this? So far, other than these fiddly little problems I am extremely happy with the system. I may have other problems when/if I try getting my PSK31 software working. From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 18:27:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:27:04 -0300 Subject: How do you find the dependencies an app requires References: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <1501088.DeKeJE1QOf@cedar.serverforest.com> Douglas Phillipson wrote: > How do you discover all an applications dependencies? > # apt-cache depends PACKAGE tells you the specific packages it depends on - but not the ones _they_ depend on. If you want to know every last package that will be pulled in, use: # aptitude -s install PACKAGE (-s for simulate). -- derek From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed Oct 31 19:40:54 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:40:54 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - No splash screen In-Reply-To: References: <200710202009.06983.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200710301901.47368.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710312040.54572.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Wednesday 31 October 2007 14:53:32 schreef Mike Shaw: > On 10/30/07, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 03:14:04 pm Karl wrote: > > > Op Tuesday 30 October 2007 00:27:06 schreef Michael Hirsch: > > > > On 10/29/07, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > > > On 10/29/07, Karl wrote: > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:58:20 schreef Karl Vanwynsberghe: > > > > > > > Well Bruce, that's very... reassuring :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Op Saturday 20 October 2007 20:38:42 schreef Bruce Marshall: > > > > > > > > On Saturday 20 October 2007, Karl Vanwynsberghe wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've installed a clean Gusty system. > > > > > > > > > Most of it seems to work out of the box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if have the following problem; > > > > > > > > > While booting i don't see anything from right after grub > > > > until > > > > > > > > > > > just before the kde-login screen. > > > > > > > > > No splash screen, no nothing... only a black screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx, Karl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Known problem. We all have it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is already a solution for this? > > > > > > > > > > Try deleting the "vga=xxx" part of your grub boot menu. You can do > > > > > this non-destructively by editing the line at boot time. > > > > > > > > > > 1. power the system on. > > > > > 2. At the grub menu use arrow keys to select the boot line you use, > > > > > press 'e' to edit it > > > > > 3. Press 'e' again (I think) to edit the first line of it > > > > > 4. Go to the end of the line and delete the part 'vga=971' or > > > > whatever > > > > > > > it says 5. Enter to finish editing, then 'b' to boot. > > > > > > > > > > If that works for you, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst similarly > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > BTW, that should give you back your virtual consoles, too. > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > There is no vga=... option in my menu.lst, so this will not be the > > > > answer. > > > > > More idea's anyone? > > > > make sure your menu.lst file has something similar to: > > > > title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic > > root (hd0,5) > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID= ro > > quiet splash > > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic > > quiet > > > > The "quiet splash" part is what you need. > > > > Then, if that's there you need to check for the "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" > > package. If that's not installed install it, and you should be in good > > shape. > > > > -- > > See Ya' > > Howard Coles Jr. > > John 3:16! > > Well I have be slogging along this problem with the rest of you and the > following fixed me: > > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_scre >en > > I set mine to 1024x768(791) and it worked like a charm! Turns out my > /etc/usplash.conf was set to 1280x1024, which my T41 will not do. > > l8r, > > Mike Shaw JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHA... ==> SOLVED !!! Thanks you all! (And Mr Mike in particular.) From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 19:55:03 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:55:03 +0100 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <4728CB5A.3050502@sbcglobal.net> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <4728C7E3.4060603@sbcglobal.net> <4728CB5A.3050502@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200710312055.03392.kassube@gmx.net> mickey wrote: > These are permissions for .Xauthority in /home/mickey > > -rw------- 1 root root 169 2007-10-31 12:13 .Xauthority > -rw------- 2 mickey mickey 0 2007-10-31 14:24 .Xauthority-c > -rw------- 2 mickey mickey 0 2007-10-31 14:24 .Xauthority-l Hmm, that's strange. The file .Xauthority should be owned by mickey:mickey. When I changed the permissions to root:root for the file, konqueror didn't start (with "kdesu konqueror") because kdesu could not connect to the X server. When I changed permissions back, konqueror started again (as root). There seems to be a problem with your .Xauthority file. You can delete it, but then you have to logout and login again to create a new version for the file. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 31 19:58:30 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:58:30 +0100 Subject: Gutsy and Atheros - now working In-Reply-To: <1342686.9C23xoTE1g@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <47269E81.9060601@mike-leone.com> <200710310853.50470.tanghus@gmail.com> <1342686.9C23xoTE1g@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710312058.30591.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Thomas Olsen wrote: > > And NM has a menu-entry to connect to other networks and > > that is used to connect to a network that doesn't broadcast its SSID. > > It least it was like that last time I used NM. > > Last time I checked you can't do that on a secured network - with > either WEP or WPA. It only worked for unsecured networks. On my wireless network I use WPA2 and broadcast is disabled. Works without problems since Feisty - but it doesn't work with WinXP SP2 without an extra patch from MS :) Nils From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 21:32:30 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:32:30 -0300 Subject: Permission Problems References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> <4728CE8A.1060808@sbcglobal.net> <4728D0F8.1030104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1767041.VEavH3usx3@cedar.serverforest.com> mickey wrote: > mickey wrote: >> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> lanzen wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> >>>>> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >>>>> >>>> No joy. ;) >>>> >>>> But it's got something to do >>>> with permissions, doesn't it? >>>> >>> >>> The question is: Does it start Konqueror as root? When I use "kdesu >>> konqueror" from Konsole, I get the same error messages but it does >>> start konqueror as root. Therefore I don't see a real problem. Many >>> KDE programs have lots of meaningless error messages when startet >>> from a terminal - and I ignore the error messages unless there is >>> really something not working. >>> >> It starts Konqueror, but not su, because if I try to edit I don't have >> write permissions in / . I see. Actually you're barking up the wrong tree. The messages you included have nothing to do with the problem. Konqueror (or whatever app) actually _does_ start with root privs. You can verify this by going to /tmp, right click in there and choose "Create New" to create any kind of file. It will do it and you'll see it is owned by root.root. However, if you right click on that file and choose to open with Kate, _Kate_ gets kicked off with your privs! # ps aux | grep konq ... root 10942 0.5 2.7 52780 27940 pts/0 S+ 18:24 0:02 konqueror ... # ps aux | grep kate derek 10986 7.2 2.2 41624 23580 ? S 18:30 0:01 kate [kdeinit] --use /tmp/Text File -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 21:23:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:23:21 -0300 Subject: Permission Problems References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> mickey wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? > I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message "Everyone"? Hardly. > Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem > Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. > > :~$ sudo konqueror > [sudo] password for mickey: > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. If you do "sudo konqueror", you will always get those errors, because you aren't running with a root environment. It's perfectly predictable, but not ime fatal - konqueror still runs. The same thing will happen if you try to run any other kde app via sudo. The simple fix (and correct way to run a KDE app with root privilege) is to use "kdesu konqueror" -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 31 22:42:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:42:46 -0300 Subject: kdm login References: <200710301848.26883.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1735909.lghFigWmt1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710311811.51390.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17827727.lXiz6r8EdE@cedar.serverforest.com> lanzen wrote: > On Tuesday 30 October 2007 22:38:12 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> I didn't have a "pick from list" theme, under Feisty, but when gutsy >> wanted to replace the config file, I let it, and now that's what I get, >> so I have to assume that's the gutsy default. > > I'm using the no-userlist theme. Is that what you wish to have back? No. Actually, I had my kdm login screen set to pick from a list of users, with pictures - just like Windows XP! - back in KDE 2.0, and like it that way. Some KDE update (going from Corel Linux, to Debian, to Ubuntu) lost that, and I didn't care enough to try to get it back, but I'm happy to see it show up on my new Gutsy kdm screen. > Just in case it doesn't work, you can do as I did while in beta when KDM > was locked up: as root make a backup and then copy all files from > "no-userlist" to "pick from list". Sure, I could have done it just by not letting it copy over my kdmrc file (or restoring the .dpkg-old version). -- derek From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Oct 31 23:15:51 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:15:51 +0000 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200710312315.51798.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 21:23:21 Derek Broughton wrote: > mickey wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? > > I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message > > "Everyone"? Hardly. > > > Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem > > Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. > > > > :~$ sudo konqueror > > > > [sudo] password for mickey: > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > If you do "sudo konqueror", you will always get those errors, because you > aren't running with a root environment. It's perfectly predictable, but > not ime fatal - konqueror still runs. The same thing will happen if you > try to run any other kde app via sudo. > > The simple fix (and correct way to run a KDE app with root privilege) is to > use "kdesu konqueror" Thing is it worked OK with 7.04, both with sudo and kdesu. Now on 7.10 I get those lines no matter what I'm trying to do as root. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Oct 31 23:27:13 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:27:13 -0400 Subject: disk-on-key ownership In-Reply-To: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> References: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200710311927.14090.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Nigel Ridley wrote: > How do I make it writable by yours truly? I don't know either, and spent some time puttering with a similar question recently, to wind up as unenlightened than ever. It's not simple to figure out. Anyway, I bet you five shekels the reason this isn't working is because nobody at Ubuntu ever contemplated the possibility of a 1 GB memory stick with a real filesystem on it. -- D. Michael McIntyre From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 23:32:20 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:32:20 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <1767041.VEavH3usx3@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <200710311841.54059.kassube@gmx.net> <200710311856.58494.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200710311935.40783.kassube@gmx.net> <4728CE8A.1060808@sbcglobal.net> <4728D0F8.1030104@sbcglobal.net> <1767041.VEavH3usx3@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47291084.8060504@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > mickey wrote: > > >> mickey wrote: >> >>> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> lanzen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 18:41:54 Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Use "kdesu konqueror" instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> No joy. ;) >>>>> >>>>> But it's got something to do >>>>> with permissions, doesn't it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The question is: Does it start Konqueror as root? When I use "kdesu >>>> konqueror" from Konsole, I get the same error messages but it does >>>> start konqueror as root. Therefore I don't see a real problem. Many >>>> KDE programs have lots of meaningless error messages when startet >>>> from a terminal - and I ignore the error messages unless there is >>>> really something not working. >>>> >>>> >>> It starts Konqueror, but not su, because if I try to edit I don't have >>> write permissions in / . >>> > > I see. Actually you're barking up the wrong tree. The messages you > included have nothing to do with the problem. > > Konqueror (or whatever app) actually _does_ start with root privs. You can > verify this by going to /tmp, right click in there and choose "Create New" > to create any kind of file. It will do it and you'll see it is owned by > root.root. However, if you right click on that file and choose to open > with Kate, _Kate_ gets kicked off with your privs! > > # ps aux | grep konq > ... > root 10942 0.5 2.7 52780 27940 pts/0 S+ 18:24 0:02 konqueror > ... > > # ps aux | grep kate > derek 10986 7.2 2.2 41624 23580 ? S 18:30 0:01 kate > [kdeinit] --use /tmp/Text File > > I see what your saying, I created a text file, but I could'nt even edit with kwrite. From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 23:34:08 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:34:08 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <472910F0.20901@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > mickey wrote: > > >> Can anyone tell me what the problem is here on Kubuntu-7.10 ? >> I googled and everybody is having problems with this error message >> > > "Everyone"? Hardly. > > >> Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora but nobody has answer for problem >> Can't get write permissions in root using Konqueror. >> >> :~$ sudo konqueror >> [sudo] password for mickey: >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/tmp/kde-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mickey" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> > > If you do "sudo konqueror", you will always get those errors, because you > aren't running with a root environment. It's perfectly predictable, but > not ime fatal - konqueror still runs. The same thing will happen if you > try to run any other kde app via sudo. > > The simple fix (and correct way to run a KDE app with root privilege) is to > use "kdesu konqueror" > I ran as "kdesu konqueror" From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Wed Oct 31 16:05:27 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:05:27 +0000 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and > > specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and > > useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the > > country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) > > a) This is not a user group. > My mistake. So what is it then? > b) Try google > I tried first, but did not get on very well. Perhaps I asked the wrong questions? Neil