AMD deciding _now_ what to do about Linux

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2007/6/18, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>:
>
> On Monday 18 June 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >On 17/06/07, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> I've always been partial to AMD because I have a tendency to support
> the
> >> underdog, and I think I have a hell of a lot of company in the linux
> field
> >> who think likewise.  If they tell us to go pound sand again, they
> _will_
> >> see it not only in card & chipset sales for cards, but in cpu sales to
> >> geek builders like me as well.  Down to zip that is.  If their sales
> >> people don't grok that, well...  It was nice knowing you AMD, but I'm
> >> taking the next corner to Intel.
> >
> >For much the same reason I've usually built with AMD. Also, with
> >proper cooling and a decent BIOS, one can very safely overclock most
> >AMD processors about 20%. I don't dare go over 10% with an Intel, and
> >often don't touch them at all. Truth is, I didn't even consider to
> >stop buying AMD processors, just graphics cards (ATI). It kind of
> >hurts me to jump camp. But, I've _always_ voted with my wallet and
> >you're right. Intel's 950 graphic cards supposedly work fine in the
> >Inspiron (my model laptop). Although, the Intel processor in this
> >lappy is _always_ hot, even with the fan in full swing.
> >
> >Dotan Cohen
> >
> >http://lyricslist.com/
> >http://what-is-what.com/
>
> I think they all run too hot.  I've a Zallman flower on this xp-2800,
> running
> at 2ghz actual, and its idling temp is about 140F even right after it been
> cleaned up, the dust bunnies blown from the fins and recoated with artic
> silver, something I have to do at least annually.  And its about due, the
> amanda run every night runs it up over 150F.  ISTR the shutdown point of
> this
> particular chip is set for 175F internally.
>
> Motherboard designs, poor ones or ones with well aged filter caps, can
> also
> make those temps skyrocket.  I had a biostar board made during the
> capacitor
> scandal and an xp-1400 running at 1400 in this box for several years that
> always ran in the 170F range.  The video card failed & took the motherbard
> with it so I rebuilt with a new board, memory & this xp-2800.  Eventually
> I
> needed a decent box to run my milling machine so I bought a Mach-Speed
> board
> and put that xp-1400, its aftermarket fan, and memory on it.  The nearest
> jumper setting I can find runs it at 1600 mhz, 200 mhz faster and it runs
> at
> only about 120F on that board.  I thought maybe sesnors was lying to me,
> but
> a finger laid on the base of the cooler says even less than 120F to me.
>
> Needless to say, when next I build up this box again, I'll look carefully
> at
> the Mach-Speed offerings to see if they have one with enough slots since
> I'm
> always out of slots and probably have a dozen or more usb thingies plugged
> in
> too.  6 ports on the mobo, 4 on a usb1.1 front panel breakout hub plugged
> into the mobo, and a 7 port alps hub, & everything but the front panel is
> full.
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> It seems a little silly now, but this country was founded as a protest
> against taxation.
>
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I did have exctely the same problem with an AMD 1600 XP. After I totally
removed the thermal conductor,
and I mean REALLY cleaned it up and then recoated it, it droped down to 110
F. In my opinion you should check that again before
trying any other solution. I used the box's cooling system and nothing more!
Just make sure you 've spread correctly the
themal conductor paste!
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