ATI driver: which is the right procedure?
larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net
Thu Jun 7 00:51:26 UTC 2007
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 06:37:30 pm Mario Gianni (mgianni) wrote:
> First of all really thanks for the help here. Really appreciated. Your
> answers are really well done. :-)
> Just 4 last things:
> 1) Do I need to make these changes after the steps described at
> http://wiki.cchtml.com or before them? Because on the procedure page it
> says to add the Composite and AIGLX sections before to run the commands.
If you are referring to the instructions immediately below, you can add these
sections before or after you do the other steps, the important thing is that
you do this before you restart X-server or restart the computer....the WIKI
wants you to do it first to avoid the troubles not having them set right
Now add the following three sections:
option "Composite" "Disable"
option "AIGLX" "off"
Remove any sections that read:
option "Composite" "Enable"
> 2) Do these changes replace both aticonfig commands ("sudo
aticonfig --initial" and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv") or only
the --initial one? On the guide it says:
> >>An alternative to the aticonfig --initial command is to edit
> >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf..... Afterwards you can use aticonfig for setting
> >> overlay etc.
All of the changes I referenced below were instead of both of these commands.
> 3) When you say that everytime you update the kernel you must reinstall the
> driver it means to run all the procedure or just the "Compile the kernel
> module" section? I mean running these commands:
> sudo module-assistant prepare
> sudo module-assistant update
> sudo module-assistant build fglrx
> sudo module-assistant install fglrx
> sudo depmod -a
> Because it reports: IMPORTANT: You have to recompile the kernel module
> after each kernel update!
When I build the *.debs from the initial downloaded file I delete the original
file and save the debs. Whenever a new kernel is released I rerun the whole
procedure beginning at the sudo dpkg lines until the end skipping
the "Configure the Driver" section. Your previous /etc/X11/xorg.conf will
continue to work.
> 4) Finally, last but not least, when I want to update the drivers with the
> new one I believe I need to run the full procedure (since I need to unpack
> the latest driver). But the question is: do I need to remove the old one or
> just install on top? Without change again the xorg.conf file? And clearly
> without run the aticonfig commands?
Yes, I open up the package manager and search on "fglrx" and remove
all-typically four packages, sometimes five if you installed the "dev"
Afterwards, I generally run the full procedure of Method 2, minus sections
which were already accomplished on previous install, such as:
Install necessary tools
Blacklist old fglrx module...
Configure the Driver
Of course if the WIKI we are referring to did not get updated after a new
version release, you must replace the old version numbers in the applicable
commands with the new ones.
One last thing, there is an instruction "Create a symbolic link"....when I
finished the steps I went to the directories mentioned in this step and noted
that this was already accomplished. I have not seen this command before on
this WIKI, but apparently someone had trouble and added this step to fix it.
"uname -r" when ran in the terminal returns your kernel version number.
> Sorry for these other questions. I think I have addressed all my doubts.
Don't need to apologize for asking for help on this list, that is what we are
here to do--help each other.
Again reiterate two points...seems a little intimidating on first go, you will
do this blindfolded after a couple goes. Also, don't forget to print a
hardcopy of these instructions, especially the "exit strategy" in case
x-server doesn't start--this will bring you back to the open source driver
vice ATI proprietary driver.
Just go for it, with the "exit strategy" in hand nothing you are doing here
should cause any permanent calamities on your system.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hartman
> Sent: mercoledì 6 giugno 2007 12.15
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions
> Subject: Re: ATI driver: which is the right procedure?
> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 06:47:05 pm Mario Gianni (mgianni) wrote:
> > Larry
> > Actually this is the procedure I tried to use. Method 2. It's
> > referenced on the ATI web site so was thinking must be ok. I think I
> > had exactly some issues with the aticonfig commands. I have seen
> > around some procedure where people say to add lines to the xorg.conf
> > file (like disable Composite or AIGLX). If you can pass the right
> > changes would be great. For example my xorg file has "vesa" as driver
> > and on some procedure they say to change with fglrx. Shouldn't be done
> > automatically by the procedure (like the aticonfig commands)?
> First, print these instructions so you have a hardcopy.
> Open a terminal:
> first backup your file:
> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-backup.conf
> Now edit the file:
> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> You will be presented a flat file that contains the settings for the
> X-server to run. It can not be edited without root permissions--hence sudo.
> Look over the file you will find three sections "Device" "Screen and
> "Monitor." When you find each section follow the instructions below.
> In this section make sure that driver says "fglrx" the rest should reflect
> your hardware
> Section "Device"
> identifier "ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) 0"
> boardname "ati"
> busid "PCI:1:5:0"
> driver "fglrx"
> screen 0
> In this section ensure that the "Device" line matches the "Identifier" line
> in the Device section (section shown above). Note your resolution settings
> may differ.
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Default Screen"
> Device "ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) 0"
> Monitor "Laptop Monitor"
> DefaultDepth 24
> SubSection "Display"
> depth 24
> virtual 2800 900
> modes "1440x900 at 60"
> In this section ensure that the "Identifier" line matches the "Monitor"
> line in Screen section (shown above). Note your modeline and gamma may
> Section "Monitor"
> identifier "Laptop Monitor"
> vendorname "Plug 'n' Play"
> modelname "Plug 'n' Play"
> modeline "1440x900 at 60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync
> -hsync gamma 0.65
> Now add the following three sections:
> Section "DRI"
> Mode 0666
> Section "Extensions"
> option "Composite" "Disable"
> Section "ServerFlags"
> option "AIGLX" "off"
> Remove any sections that read:
> Section "Extensions"
> option "Composite" "Enable"
> When you are done save the file. Also, when you have the flgrx driver
> working, copy this file to the same directory you saved the downloaded ATI
> package to in case you need it later.
> Restart you computer. After logging in bring up terminal window. Type:
> Your output should look like this--then you are successful:
> display: :0.0 screen: 0
> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series OpenGL version string:
> 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
> If it says "mesa" or "vesa" it did not work.
> LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
> You need to have an exit strategy written down in case X-server fails to
> start when booting the computer:
> After logging in at the command prompt type:
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
> This resets the /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to the open source driver.
> Then type:
> sudo shutdown -r now
> This reboots the machine.
> > I would then install Beryl. How can I check whether 3D is running fine
> > then? Issuing fglrxinfo just provide info on the driver. Is there a 3d
> > test?
> > Thanks
> > Mario
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> > [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> > Hartman
> > Sent: mercoledì 6 giugno 2007 0.06
> > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions
> > Subject: Re: ATI driver: which is the right procedure?
> > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:11:35 am Terence Simpson wrote:
> > > Mario Gianni (mgianni) wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have installed Kubuntu on my Thinkpad T60. I was trying to
> > > > install the ATI drivers but I have found so many procedure on the
> > > > web that I am a bit confused.
> > > >
> > > > So far I understood that I can install it from the repository (as
> > > > restricted driver) or download from ati.com and do the
> > > > installation manually. All these links show the setup procedure.
> > > > They are pretty similar but not completely the same:
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
> > > > http://divilinux.wordpress.com/tag/hardware/ati/
> > > > http://divilinux.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/installazione-driver-fgl
> > > > rx
> > > > -kub
> > > > untu-feisty-fawn-704/
> > > >
> > > > On the ATI web site there is this one which looks pretty easy.
> > > > Just need to run the package:
> > > >
> > > > https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/
> > > > li
> > > > nux_
> > > > 8.37.6-inst.html
> > > >
> > > > Can you please help me? Which one is the right procedure? Do you
> > > > have a link for the right one?
> > > >
> > > > I'll use KDE with Kubuntu. Not sure whether there are two
> > > > procedure for GNOME or KDE.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Mario
> > >
> > > Try these official instructions from ubuntu:
> > > <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd
> > > 05
> > > bce34
> > >0dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b>
> > The first one listed above:
> > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
> > This one I just updated a week ago when the new driver came out. Follow
> > method 2 on this website to the letter and you will be just fine,
> > works with both KDE and GNOME.
> > If you have problems running the commands "sudo aticonfig --initial"
> > and the "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" in the Configure the Driver
> > section let me know--not a problem with the WIKI procedure, but the
> > driver package itself. In that event I will post the /etc/xorg.conf
> > file on this email list that these commands automatically set up for you.
> > The big thing to remember is that anytime a new Linux kernel is
> > updated on your machine you must--read must--reinstall the ATI driver,
> > otherwise the computer will run the open source driver at greatly reduced
> > performance. When you download the package save it somewhere safe so that
> > you can reload it as necessary.
> > I have done this many times, and while it seems intimidating at first,
> > you will do this procedure blindfolded after a while. ATI releases a
> > new driver about every month that I load manually.
> > Larry
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