Thank you for your "Help"!!

[Jonathan Jesse]

On Tuesday 17 July 2007 17:53:14 Macario Valle wrote:
> I do not know how much power Derek has on this group, and I really not
> care.
> But, it makes my blood boil when customers are mistreated, and make no
> mistake, whether paid or not this is a customer.
> If any of us did not feel like helping the newby, let it go.  Linux is
> out there to gain market share, and, yes, we do not get paid, we help
> each other.  But everytime someone helps me, I get paid for my efforts,
> online and offline, on helping those were I can.
> My motto is "pass it forward", meaning someone has helped me in the
> past, so I am morally obligated to help anybody I can, when i can.
>
> That is how linux has gone from zero market share to where iti s today,
> and we should hope the numbers just keep on growing so that we can have
> more people helping people and this very nice experiment keeps prospers.
>
> Ian should not feel like he needs to leave the user group just because
> one member did not like his very basic questions.  i have been there,
> Some Unix geek helped me back in college, a long time ago.  i feel I
> should do the same.  That's what user's groups like this one should be
> all about.
> My two cents, maybe i am naive, but maybe naive is good in this case.
>
> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 23:04 +0200, Ian Whitfield wrote:
> > Derek Comment on question posted by me......
> >
> > First you need to learn how to use your email program properly.  Quoting
> > like this makes it pretty difficult to hold a conversation.
> >
> > I'm not sure you'll find much support forthe level of hand-holding you're
> > asking for.  If people start putting [Newbie] in their subject lines, a
> > lot of readers will just skip the question.  Sure some will help, but
> > this is Linux, and there's not a lot of interest in helping people who
> > can't help themselves.
> >
> > Given that I just told you to check the contents of a file, and run a
> > program IN WINDOWS, I can't see that I can make things much simpler for
> > you.
> > ------------------
> > Well all I can say is "thank you"!! If this is the kind of support here I
> > will move on. I can do without it! No wonder Linux has such a bad name in
> > many circles. I had noticed a couple of "flames" here towards others
> > asking reasonable questions and wondered about this!!
> >
> > For the record I have run eMail clients for the past 15 years and
> > currently have a 1000 member group with a monthly newsletter so I DO know
> > how to use the program. I DID NOT put "newby" in the subject I just
> > commented that that is what I am (in Linux!!). I was a support manager
> > for over 20 years so DO KNOW what I'm doing with Windows and I did see
> > the Windows part of the answer but stress again that the Linux part I did
> > not understand (because I'm a "Newby" We all have to start somewhere!!
> >
> > Don't bother to reply Derek I will move on and find some better help
> > elsewhere!
> >
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People have power on this list?  I'm amazed that comments such as this still 
exist here.