endline characters

Man-Chicken manchicken at notsosoft.net
Sun Feb 11 05:57:55 UTC 2007

Many things would break in both environments if the line termination scheme 
were changed.  Windows depends on \r\n, and GNU/Linux depends on \n.  There 
would be weeping and gnashing of teeth involved in converting either to the 

On Saturday 10 February 2007 22:25, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> Maynard Wright <m-wright at eskimo.com> writes:
> > In days of yore, Unix used a single line feed (0A hex) to terminate a
> > line of text and DOS used a carriage return - line feed pair (OD hex
> > 0A hex).  When moving files back and forth between the two systems, it
> > was often necessary to convert the endline (sometimes called
> > "newline") characters one way or the other.
> >
> > This situation seemed to prevail through RedHat 8 (LF) and W98SE
> > (CR-LF).  In attempting to resolve some issues involved with porting
> > code from Linux to Windows XP, I see that the situation seems to have
> > been reversed.
> You are wrong.  Unix still uses LF line endings, Windows CR-LF.
> > Although Kate under RH8 defaulted to LF endlines, Kate under Dapper
> > defaults to CR-LF.
> That may be the case.
> > Conversely, a file edited by Notepad under Windows XP and emailed to
> > me (I don't have any OS other than Linux anymore) used only LF
> > endlines.
> Your mailer probably converted this; Notepad under XP does *not*
> understand lines terminated only by LF -- it treats that as a single
> embedded control character in one line.
> > Although I haven't found a definitive commentary on this aspect of
> > Windows, a Google search seems to indicate that up through W98SE,
> > Microsoft OS used CR-LF, but that OS since that version, including XP,
> > use LF as an endline character.
> >
> > Any thoughts or further information on this?
> You are wrong, and the standard line endings have not changed.
> I suspect your mailer converted the Windows created text file to the
> local standard, and can't comment on the defaults of Kate.
> Regards,
>         Daniel
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