AMD64

[Mats Holmberg]

Lord Sauron wrote:

>On 3/20/06, Mats Holmberg <mats.holmberg at elisanet.fi> wrote:
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>>Lord Sauron wrote:
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>>>On 3/20/06, Mats Holmberg <mats.holmberg at elisanet.fi> wrote:
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>>>>Lord Sauron wrote:
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>>>>>On 3/20/06, scott <sclewin at bmts.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>Hi,
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>>>>>>  My motherboard died on me so I decided to get both a new motherboard
>>>>>>and chip.  I decided on getting a Sempron and it supports AMD64.
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>>>>>>  My first question is, should I now download and install the AMD64
>>>>>>version of Kubuntu?  My second question: how stable is the AMD64 side
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>>>>>Yes and as stable as i386.
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>>>>Ubuntu core system is stable, yes, but many applications are not. Also,
>>>>there are some features you simply won't get functioning - that is
>>>>easily or completely.
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>>>You can always get it completely compatible.  AMD64 architecture is
>>>really just x86_64 - it's 100%, totally and natively compatible with
>>>i386, 486, 586 and 686 architectures.  Now, you will need to work at
>>>ignoring some architecture dependency checking, assuming you're not a
>>>total moron and try installing the PPC port of something, however,
>>>there is no such thing as a i386/AMD64 compatitibility problem.
>>>Anyone who tells you otherwise is either being blindly loyal to Intel
>>>or has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.  Period.  End of
>>>Subject.
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>>So every user out there who either don't want to or don't have the time
>>to think about technical details (I for one need a working sysytem,
>>easily) are either Intel fanatics or morons. That's really helpful you
>>know... period.
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>No, people who lie and say that AMD64 architecture isn't compatible
>with i386 are Intel fanatics or morons.  I ended up using the i386
>version of Kubuntu on my Athlon64 just because I couldn't figure out
>how to turn off the dependency checking to install some i386 packages.
> However, that was way back when I was still in my early days of
>learning how to successfully use the CLI.
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>>I know everything is possible, but that's not the point here. Anyone who
>>doesn't see things from a users point of view is a moron by my definition.
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>I envision the end product first, then build the black box.  I was
>making a point about the technical parts of it - if you don't want to
>fool around with dependency checking then by all means use the i386
>version, but if you don't mind the dependency checking then you can
>get ~10% performance increase by using x86_64 compiled software.
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>I'm sorry if I'm a bit vague - I really have problems getting what I'm
>thinking onto the screen.  I am getting better... you should have seen
>me a year ago.  Can you say "flambait?"
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Ok, it's just that I feel quite strongly about the fact that you should 
leave out insults and statements including 'moron' or 'idiot' - even if 
you're not insulting anyone directly. It's overwhelmingly simple to 
misunderstand these types of posts.

Cheers,
Mats