kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 66

Tue Jul 18 23:23:08 UTC 2006

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Multiple network configuration (Oscar Carlsson)
   2. How to detect ethernet connection (Derek Broughton)
   3. Re: Pin priority of packages (Derek Broughton)
   4. Re: X.org stalls - problems with NVIDIA graphics driver?
      (Glenn Enright)
   5. Re: The results of your email commands (Carlos Barros)
   6. dma and older hard disks (Nigel Ridley)
   7. Re: Custom-built kernel (Javier Aguilar Saavedra)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:08:28 +0200
From: "Oscar Carlsson" <monotux at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Multiple network configuration
To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions"
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Uhm...
When a line is commented out, the line is prefixed by a #, ie:

# This line is a comment

Oscar

On 7/18/06, Pascal Francq <pfrancq at ulb.ac.be> wrote:
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> It was already comment out (no # before).
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> On Monday 17 July 2006 21:52, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> > Pascal Francq <pfrancq at ulb.ac.be> writes:
> > > I have configure the ppp interface and now I can access to the network
> > > from home (ADSL) or at the office (ethernet).  I have still a strange
> > > problem: At the office I have a fix IP address X.X.X.122. When I am
> > > there I can access the department server with fix IP address
> > > X.X.X.121, but at home, I cannot access to this server. In fact, when
> > > I do a trace, it try to access via my X.X.X.122 interface.
> >
> > In your /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider file (or whatever file you use to
> > dial out with), there is an option called defaultroute.  Comment this in
> > (remove the # if it's there).  This will set the routing table to use
> > your new ADSL connection when you dial out.
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:09:50 -0300
From: Derek Broughton <news at pointerstop.ca>
Subject: How to detect ethernet connection
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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How, on a Kubuntu system, can one reliably tell if _any_ ethernet connection
exists?

leafnode (a minimal NNTP server) checks "ifplugstatus" (I'm not sure if it
does that stock, or if I added it):
 ifplugstatus | grep -e "eth.: link" >/dev/null  && fetchnews

This is functional, but requires me to have a daemon installed that I
otherwise have no use for (though this exercise has at least shown me that
my connections are no longer numbered the way I always thought they were -
eth0 is now eth1 and vice versa).

hal has apparently not got the right information - kde-hal-device-manager
tells me that net.interface_up is false for both interfaces.
-- 
derek

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:16:59 -0300
From: Derek Broughton <news at pointerstop.ca>
Subject: Re: Pin priority of packages
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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John L Fjellstad wrote:

> Derek Broughton <news at pointerstop.ca> writes:
> 
>> Do you have a default repository set in apt preferences?
>>
>> iirc, default priority of any repo is 500.  If you set a default repo
>> either at the command line or in the config files, you raise its pin
>> priority to 700 (the numbers may be wrong, but that's the idea).  If
>> you just move all the conf files out of the way, it should find all
>> the security packages.
> 
> Not in preferences, but kubuntu sets up a default repository in
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99release

Are you sure kubuntu did that?  I don't have one.  I think I can reliably
say I never had 99release, because I actually have a 10release~ still
hanging around (from breezy days - and when I was messing with pinning) -
though I thought that I created that.
> 
> Have you gotten any updated packages lately from dapper-security?
> These are the packages that got updated when I changed the pin priority
> for dapper-security to 999:

Definitely - but then I don't have a 99release :-)
> 
>  [UPGRADE] binutils 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2 ->
>  [2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1

derek at othello:~$ aptitude show binutils
Package: binutils
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1
...
derek at othello:~$ apt-cache policy binutils
binutils:
  Installed: 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1
  Candidate: 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1
  Version table:
 *** 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1 0
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages

So, yes, I have the one that you're looking at, and everything is at default
priority.
-- 
derek

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:51:57 +1200
From: Glenn Enright <elinar at ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: X.org stalls - problems with NVIDIA graphics driver?
To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <200607190151.58501.elinar at ihug.co.nz>
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On Monday 17 July 2006 18:17, Thomas Sperre wrote:
> thomas at zirakzagil:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
> Leser pakkelister ... Ferdig (english:packages)
> Skaper oversikt over avhengighetsforhold ... Ferdig (english:dependencies)
> nvidia-glx er allerede nyeste versjon. (english:is up to date)
> 0 oppgraderte, 0 nylig installerte, 0 ï¿½ fjerne og 2 ikke oppgradert.
> thomas at zirakzagil:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
>
> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
> command:
> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
> from nv to nvidia.
>
> Question: as you can see in my original post, if all this enable script
> does is alter my x.org conf "Driver" section from nv to nvidia, that
should
> be ok - as mine really says "nvidia". Can this issue be eliminated from
the
> list of potential troublemakers?
Sorry about the slow response. The glx update alters symlinks to point to
the 
correct glx libraries, it should not touch the xorg.conf file. IMHO :). 
That 
error just means that the file was not changed. However it should have done 
the other stuff for you anyway.

If you are using transparency and such as other have suggested, there is a 
development sever Xgl that does this very nicely and much more stably.
There 
is some good documentation available to help you convert to this. Although, 
from what I've found it integrates best in gnome atm.

-- 
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expense of it.
		-- Josh Billings

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:13:35 -0300
From: "Carlos Barros" <barros001 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: The results of your email commands
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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well, I got a strange bouce about non text/plain mime type, so, I'm
forwarding
it. Sorry if you get two messages!

> Hi all!
> I have two ethernet adapters and one wireless adapter in my PC.
> To connect to the internet and the local network, I use the wireless
> adapter connected to a wireless router. Is there a way of bridge
> both ethernet adapeter into the wireless one? What I want to
> do is, when one plug the cable into any of the ethernet adapters,
> it gets connected as if the cable is connected direct into the wireless
> router.. I think it is possible using the kernel bridge feature, but is it
> possible when using wireless adapter througth ndiswrapper?
>
> regards!
>
> Carlos Barros
>
>

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:38:07 +0300
From: Nigel Ridley <nigel at rmk.co.il>
Subject: dma and older hard disks
To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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I have just put together an AMD K6 500 using two older small hard disks 
- one 3.5 GB and the other 2.5 GB. They are about 6-7 years old.
after doing the initial install, then the upgrade (including KDE 3.5.3) 
I rebooted and noticed in the boot messages a warning that dma is not 
enabled and that accessing the hard drive[s] might be slow (or something 
like that). YES, they are slooooow.

So, my question: How can I determine if it safe to enable dma on these 
two oldish hard drives?

Blessings,

Nigel

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:27:24 +0000
From: "Javier Aguilar Saavedra" <malandante at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Custom-built kernel
To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions"
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Installing the new kernel from edgy will require to upgrade some important
packages like libc6, not all packages. If you don't want so, but still want
to get the configuration file from that kernel to build your own,  you can
do this:

- Download the package with apt-get with the -d flag in order not to install
it
- Copy it fom /var/cache/apt/archives/ to wherever you want to
- Extract the archives with dpkg -x; you can find the config file in a boot
directory inside where you have extracted it

To build your own kernel, you can download the linux-source-2.6.17 package
from edgy and proceed to make the debs. This sources include the ubuntu
patches. I don't know what patches are these, but I suppose they must be
useful. You can also download the vanilla kernel from www.kernel.org.
Remeber the useful flags: -d for apt-get and -x for dpkg.

2006/7/18, Pupeno <pupeno at pupeno.com>:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Tuesday 18 July 2006 08:09, Javier Aguilar Saavedra wrote:
> > You can get the configuration files of your installed kernels from your
> > /boot directory. Just copy the config file to .config, add the command
> > --config oldconfig when building with make-kpkg and it will prompt you
> with
> > the new options. You can also add the edgy repository and install a
> kernel
> > from there.
>
> If you add the edgy repository, won't it upgrade all packages to the
> unstable
> versions ? I don't want that. Did you do some apt voodoo ?
>
> > The linux-restricted-modules package may or may not be
> > up-to-date. I installed linux-image-2.6.17-4-amd64-k8 and
> > linux-image-2.6.17-5-amd64-k8 but found no initrd image in the former
> and
> > some problems when building the nvidia driver with the latter, and
> finally
> > only used them to get the config file from /boot and built my own.
>
> On Tuesday 18 July 2006 08:12, Javier Aguilar Saavedra wrote:
> > This is the full command and the flags I use to make the kernel debs:
> >
> > fakeroot make-kpkg --config oldconfig --initrd binary
>
> So, you made debs, that's good. I've tried to make debs of 2.6.17 by
> downloading the sources from here:
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/linux-image-2.6.17-5-686
>
> Is that a good path to follow ? What I've found is that it needed, to
> install,
> a newer modutils than the one I have, so I droped that path. How should I
> solve that ? (I really don't want to switch to a fully unstable distro).
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Pupeno <pupeno at pupeno.com> (http://pupeno.com)
>
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