new computer

Grumpy_Penguin grumpypenguin at qwest.net
Mon Dec 4 20:42:51 UTC 2006


On Monday 04 December 2006 13:09, Lord Sauron wrote:
> On 12/4/06, Grumpy_Penguin <grumpypenguin at qwest.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 04 December 2006 12:28, Thomas Sperre wrote:
> > > Måndag 04 desember 2006 01:46 skreiv Grumpy_Penguin:
> > > > Currently there is no significant advantage to using a 64 bit OS
> > > > although this will rapidly change
> > >
> > > This is just not true, it depends completely on what you are trying to
> > > do with the computer. If you want to run memory intensive calculations
> > > then yes a 64 bit OS is a significant advantage, in fact the only thing
> > > that makes it possible if meory requirement exceeds approx 2-3 Gb
> > > (depending on application memory management issues).
> >
> > Give me a real world example.
> > I admit high end video processing will eat up a lot of RAM and processor
> > time ...but my copy of mymia is still optimized for a 32 bit processor it
> > runs somewhat faster on my 64 bit box [2.2 gig Athlon 64 X2 but not a lot
>
> Real world example?  Okay, you asked for it.
>
> Calculating fractals (higher precision is a huge help) and
> high-precision computations (ie. running a calculator).  The
> advantages of a 64-bit processor only really begin to kick in when you
> start to use stuff like compilers, image editors, video processing,
> and other things like that.  Basically it's just the stuff which
> involves a bunch of numbers.  F/I, I used 64-bit technology to
> increase my precision in calculating the values of Pascal's Triangle
> by two (switching from a 32-bit integer to a 64-bit integer - I was
> very happy with myself.)  True, the 64-bit integers still work on
> 32-bit platforms, but:
> o each addition/subtraction operation takes 2x as long
> o each multiplication/division operation takes 4x as long
>
> I love 64-bit technology.  It's the coolest thing to me.  I love
> reving up my Athlon 64, beating out some 64-bit code in KDevelop, and
> watching it fly.  However, if you're just going to read your email and
> browse the web, I'd go with something like a AMD Athlon64, not one of
> the X2's.  The 64's are cheap, insanely effective, and they're not
> prone to most of the problems that Intel chips are (my dad had to
> write a CPU bugfix for a Intel Pentium II that would give numbers when
> you divided by zero!).  In addition, if you go with some of the really
> cool ultra-low profile, ultra-cool ITX/Nano ITX/Mini ATX boards/chips
> they're coming out with, you can save a lot of power.  They're cool.
> (no pun intended)
yes I know I have a Mini ITX form factor box running puppy linux and sometimes 
dsl-linux
>
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