From carney1979 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 00:06:26 2005 From: carney1979 at gmail.com (David M. Carney) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:06:26 -0400 Subject: Trash In-Reply-To: References: <200505302208.33727.carney1979@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200505312006.26964.carney1979@gmail.com> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 16:49, Aikurn wrote: > Yes, it is. Go to /home/youruser/Desktop and edit the file trash.desktop. > Change the line Hidden=true, for Hidden=false. > You may need to restart KDE. > > P.D: This is my first post to a mailing list, I hope I'm doing it right. > > L. Hernández > > 2005/5/31, David M. Carney : > > Is it possible to have a trashcan on my desktop instead of as an applet > > on the > > panel? > > > > David > > > > -- > > Registered Linux User #297958 > > http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Thanks! That worked, and yes, you posted right. David -- Registered Linux User #297958 http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ From james at grayonline.id.au Wed Jun 1 00:18:45 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:18:45 +1000 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506011018.57649.james@grayonline.id.au> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:16 am, Roel Schouten wrote: > Installed it and it works! It solved some nasty crash problems I had with > konqueror and kuser. > The installation went almost smoothly: I had to remove kdm before I could > install all the upgrades - afterwards I installed kdm again. Rebooted and > everything works. > > Cheers! > > Roel. Excellent news! I'm hoping 3.4.1 will solve some kontact crashes I've been having when the IMAP server times out (the joys of VPN). Just for the record, you don't need to reboot to update KDE. Simply restart all the logged in sessions. Or log everyone out (assuming multiple KDE users on the same machine), then CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a console session, log into the console and simply "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart". This will force the Xserver to shutdown and restart too, but in the process will unload all KDE comomponents then reload the new version when KDM starts again. It's also a handy way to upgrade your display driver (eg, nvidia-glx) :) Besides, who wants to crucify their uptime - how the heck to we get bragging rights with out M$-encumbered workmates?? ;) Rule of thumb: if you didn't install a new kernel, you don't really need to reboot. James -- A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that balances are correct. -- Princess Irulan, "Manual of Maud'Dib" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It solved some nasty crash problems I had with > konqueror and kuser. > The installation went almost smoothly: I had to remove kdm before I could > install all the upgrades - afterwards I installed kdm again. Rebooted and > everything works. > > Cheers! > > Roel. > > >From: Jonathan Riddell > >Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:08:46 +0100 > > > >KDE 3.4.1 packages are available for hoary from this deb source (edit > >/etc/apt/sources.list) > > > > deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > > >At time of writing most of the mirrors have not updated so you can use > >the master server at > > > > deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > > >but it may well be slow/overloaded. > > > > > >You can also get packages of KOffice 1.4 beta from > > > > deb http://download.kde.org/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu ./ > > > >Jonathan Riddell > > > >-- > >kubuntu-users mailing list > >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Log på MSN Messenger direkte fra nettet http://webmessenger.msn.com/ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From bluecode77 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 1 00:50:02 2005 From: bluecode77 at hotmail.com (alper t) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:50:02 +0000 Subject: no DE Message-ID: Hello All, I have just installed the new version of Kubuntu over my X1030us Compaq Laptop. I am new to linux, and I have once used Suse prior Kubuntu. Installation seemed to went fine, however when it completed. It fail to boot in to KDE. I guess Kubuntu failed to detect my graphic card(ati radeon 9200). I can only boot to bash, how would I resolve that problem. Thanks already, ps: please don't forget i am new to linux while responding. _________________________________________________________________ Hava durumunu bizden �grenin ve evden �yle �ikin! http://www.msn.com.tr/havadurumu/ From sarava at verizon.net Wed Jun 1 01:15:45 2005 From: sarava at verizon.net (Sara Vasquez) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 21:15:45 -0400 Subject: deleting my windows partition Message-ID: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> Hey all: So now I don't see the need for a windows partition. I have everything I need, well I don't have napster but we are running it in another computer. Now I wnat to get rid of all that windows stuff. I don;t know if I can get rid of of an NTFS partition using gparted or maybe something else. Thanks for you replies in advanced. sAra From sebas at kde.nl Wed Jun 1 02:00:04 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:00:04 +0200 Subject: deleting my windows partition In-Reply-To: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> References: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200506010400.11192.sebas@kde.nl> Hi Sara, On Wednesday 01 June 2005 03:15, Sara Vasquez wrote: > So now I don't see the need for a windows partition. > I have everything I need, well I don't have napster but we are > running it in another computer. Now I wnat to get rid of all that > windows stuff. I don;t know if I can get rid of of an NTFS partition > using gparted or maybe something else. Thanks for you replies in > advanced. Assuming you know which partition it is, you can just 'format' the partition with mkfs, add it to your fstab and mount it. Here's a step-by-step howto (lines beginning with $ containt commands you have to run): 1) Look up the partition with $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda1 * 1 486 3903763+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 1276 9732 67930852+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) If you find one of these lines, they are a good candidate, the type of the filesystem should give a good hint (usually W95 or NTFS types). The number+ column is the size of the respective partition, divide it by 1024 and you have the size in MB. !!! Make sure there's no important data on it you don't have backups for, and double check you choose the right partition to format. !!! 2) format the partition using mkfs. I usually choose reiserfs as a filesystem since its overall performance is quite good. $ sudo mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hda2 !!! Change the /dev/hda2 to the partition name from the first column of fdisk's output. !!! 3) Create a new "mountpoint", a directory where your partition can be found in the filesystem: $ sudo mkdir /mnt/mypartition 3) Add a line corresponding to that 'new' partition to your fstab: $ sudo kwrite /etc/fstab Then add a line like the following: /dev/hda2 /mnt/mypartition reiserfs defaults 0 1 4) Mount your partition $ mount /mnt/mypartition (This gives no output, check "dmesg | tail" and "du -h" and "mount" if everything went OK and the partition is mounted in your filesystem.) 5) Change permissions of the partition, you probably want to use it as user "sara": $ sudo chown sara.users /mnt/mypartition That's about it, I hope it's clear. :-) Cheers, sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It is necessary for the welfare of society that genius should be privileged to utter sedition, to blaspheme, to outrage good taste, to corrupt the youthful mind, and generally to scandalize one's uncles. - George Bernard Shaw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You should have the repositories set up already, so just run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal window. This will install all the updates into your system. If nothing seems to happen, read the PS. If even then you cannot login into kde, read this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and follow the steps in installing the ATI proprietary driver fglrx. I have radeon 9200 card on my desktop computer, and Kubuntu recognized it fine. I was also able to get 3D and TV-out working by installing fglrx driver. Donatas PS. How to setup repositories, if apt-get update does not work: run sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list to see whether your internet sources are set up. Visit http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#swmgmt to read more about software repositories, you have to have the repositories main, universe, restricted set up for update to work (you can also add multiverse for later use). From opi at cyb3r.org Wed Jun 1 08:05:32 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:05:32 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200505311810.01248.opi@cyb3r.org> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200505311145.20018.carney1979@gmail.com> <200505311810.01248.opi@cyb3r.org> Message-ID: <200506011005.37553.opi@cyb3r.org> On Tuesday 31 of May 2005 18:09, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote: Just one problem. root at rude:~ # apt-get install kdebase-bin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be upgraded: kdebase-bin 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. 128 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/1106kB of archives. After unpacking 69.6kB of additional disk space will be used. WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! kdebase-bin Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 73961 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace kdebase-bin 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 (using .../kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kdebase-bin ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_winbind.la', which is also in package kdm dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com Monkey see, monkey do. Rather be dead than cool. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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SNIPPED .. > Preconfiguring packages ... > (Reading database ... 73961 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to replace kdebase-bin 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 > (using .../kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb) ... > Unpacking replacement kdebase-bin ... > dpkg: error > processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_winbind.la', which is also in > package kdm > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) To quote "Roel Schouten" from about 9 hours ago in a message he sent to this very list: "The installation went almost smoothly: I had to remove kdm before I could install all the upgrades - afterwards I installed kdm again. Rebooted and everything works." HTH, James -- I just called to say I love you <--> Let us joyously violate acid -- anagrama -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scido at email.it Wed Jun 1 09:16:12 2005 From: scido at email.it (Scido) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:16:12 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506011116.35951.scido@email.it> Alle 17:08, martedì 31 maggio 2005, Jonathan Riddell ha scritto: > KDE 3.4.1 packages are available for hoary from this deb source (edit > /etc/apt/sources.list) > are they just for i386 architectures? What about amd64 port? Do you know something? Thanks Domi -- Linux User # 368882 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As minor releases are usually bugfix > releases wouldn't it > make sense to include them in Kubuntu's official releases? > > Well, lots of questions. :) > > > Could you please CC me as I'm currently not subscribed to this list. > > Thanks and keep up the good work, > Tobias > From svloon at xs4all.nl Wed Jun 1 15:55:54 2005 From: svloon at xs4all.nl (Sander van Loon) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:55:54 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506011755.54696.svloon@xs4all.nl> Thanks a lot that you could prepare KDE 3.4.1 binaries for Kubuntu 5.04 so fast, I appreciate it. However there have been some problems for me. After I added the APT repo to my sources.list and opened Kynaptic and refreshed repo info, I got this error message: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde341_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Fortunately this error message disappeared after trying again for a few times. I could then see the packages I could update to 3.4.1. I marked all the KDE packages which could be updated to 3.4.1 for upgrading, and I let Kynaptic do it's work. Because the downloading would take some time I went doing something else. After I returned I saw that not all the KDE packages were upgraded, only some of them (I am running KDE 3.4.1. now according to the "about KDE" window though, so that went fine). When I tried to mark one of the non-upgraded packages, for example kmail (but it happens with others as well), for upgrade again, Kynaptic wanted to remove kde-core, kde-devel (both version 5:42unbuntu1) and kdelibs (which did update properly and is version 3.4.1). I read Roel Schouten's message, he says that kdm had to be removed before he could update. But if my Kynaptic removes kde-core and kdelibs in order to upgrade, wouldn't this be problematic? I mean, without kde-core KDE can't start, right? So how can I safely upgrade? Greetings, Sander On Tuesday 31 May 2005 17:08, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > KDE 3.4.1 packages are available for hoary from this deb source (edit > /etc/apt/sources.list) > > deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > At time of writing most of the mirrors have not updated so you can use > the master server at > > deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > but it may well be slow/overloaded. > > > You can also get packages of KOffice 1.4 beta from > > deb http://download.kde.org/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu ./ > > Jonathan Riddell From cramos at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 16:07:47 2005 From: cramos at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar_Ramos?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:07:47 +0200 Subject: A general question regarding KDE releases In-Reply-To: <429DD108.7010708@laposte.net> References: <429DD108.7010708@laposte.net> Message-ID: <53eaf73005060109071ba013f5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, One question: Can I update to KDE 3.4.1 in Breezy? Thanks! On 6/1/05, Dripple wrote: > Well, I upgraded to KDE 3.4.1 / Hoary with no particular problem... > > just follow the guide : > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php > > Tobias Eichert a écrit : > > Hello folks, > > > > regarding this thread > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2005-May/000810.html > > it seems that KDE 3.4.1 will only be available in Breezy - is it > > because of the major GCC > > transition? > > > > Will there be minor KDE updates (maybe a KDE "4.0.1" for Breezy when > > it's final) once the > > C++ ABI is more or less 'stable'? As minor releases are usually bugfix > > releases wouldn't it > > make sense to include them in Kubuntu's official releases? > > > > Well, lots of questions. :) > > > > > > Could you please CC me as I'm currently not subscribed to this list. > > > > Thanks and keep up the good work, > > Tobias > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From opi at cyb3r.org Wed Jun 1 16:41:51 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:41:51 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200506012141.57236.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506011005.37553.opi@cyb3r.org> <200506012141.57236.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> On Wednesday 01 of June 2005 13:41, James Gray wrote: > To quote "Roel Schouten" from about 9 hours ago in a message he sent to > this very list: Maybe I skiped it. I'm getting ~500 mails per day. It's hard to read everything. I simply did dpkg -i --force-all to let dpkg overwrite file. -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com From cramos at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 17:02:01 2005 From: cramos at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9sar_Ramos?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:02:01 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506011005.37553.opi@cyb3r.org> <200506012141.57236.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> Message-ID: <53eaf730050601100271d480f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, One question: Can I update to KDE 3.4.1 in Breezy? Thanks! On 6/1/05, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote: > On Wednesday 01 of June 2005 13:41, James Gray wrote: > > > To quote "Roel Schouten" from about 9 hours ago in a message he sent to > > this very list: > > Maybe I skiped it. I'm getting ~500 mails per day. It's hard to read > everything. I simply did dpkg -i --force-all to let dpkg overwrite file. > > -- > Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From strgeek at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 17:36:08 2005 From: strgeek at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stuardo_-_StR_-_Rodr=EDguez?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:36:08 -0600 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <53eaf730050601100271d480f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506011005.37553.opi@cyb3r.org> <200506012141.57236.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> <53eaf730050601100271d480f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dede76605060110363e62b09f@mail.gmail.com> On 6/1/05, César Ramos wrote: > Hi, > One question: Can I update to KDE 3.4.1 in Breezy? > > Thanks! > No... breezy is all broken with the changes of kde-dbus and gcc 4 an X11R6-X11... .don't use breezy From frode at lnix.net Wed Jun 1 18:18:59 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:18:59 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200506011116.35951.scido@email.it> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506011116.35951.scido@email.it> Message-ID: <200506012019.03992.frode@lnix.net> onsdag 01 juni 2005, 11:16, skrev Scido: [snip] > are they just for i386 architectures? What about amd64 port? Do you know > something? [snip] In progress. Will be available, just takes some extra time. - Frode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lonnie at omniverserpg.com Wed Jun 1 18:31:03 2005 From: lonnie at omniverserpg.com (Lonnie Blansett) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:31:03 -0500 Subject: Updating to KDE 3.4.1 broke cervisia In-Reply-To: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> References: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> Message-ID: <429DFEE7.4020600@omniverserpg.com> I updated to KDE 3.4.1 and almost everthing seemed to work just fine... except cervisia. I had to downgrade cervisia to make it work again... It told me it could find "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" which doesn't appear to exist. However, after the downgrade the file "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" still doesn't exist but cervisia works just fine. Has any one else had this problem and/or have a fix for it? Lonnie Blansett From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Wed Jun 1 19:06:57 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.Koendering) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:06:57 +0200 Subject: I need a Macromedia Flash Plugin for Konqueror Message-ID: <200506012106.58168.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> My adsl provider (www.planet.nl) needs a flash plugin. Is it possible for the (K)ubuntu developers to privide one for kde 3.4.1 Konqueror? PCLinux - Netherlands From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Wed Jun 1 19:19:56 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:19:56 +0300 Subject: Updating to KDE 3.4.1 broke cervisia In-Reply-To: <429DFEE7.4020600@omniverserpg.com> References: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> <429DFEE7.4020600@omniverserpg.com> Message-ID: <200506012219.56974.ziogelis77@takas.lt> 2005 m. Birželio 1 d., Trečiadienis 21:31, Lonnie Blansett rašė: > I updated to KDE 3.4.1 and almost everthing seemed to work just fine... > except cervisia. I had to downgrade cervisia to make it work again... > It told me it could find "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" which doesn't appear > to exist. However, after the downgrade the file > "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" still doesn't exist but cervisia works just fine. > > Has any one else had this problem and/or have a fix for it? I have the same problem. But downgrade did not help me. -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From sebas at kde.nl Wed Jun 1 19:17:28 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:17:28 +0200 Subject: Updating to KDE 3.4.1 broke cervisia In-Reply-To: <429DFEE7.4020600@omniverserpg.com> References: <429D0C41.8080406@verizon.net> <429DFEE7.4020600@omniverserpg.com> Message-ID: <200506012117.34976.sebas@kde.nl> On Wednesday 01 June 2005 20:31, Lonnie Blansett wrote: > I updated to KDE 3.4.1 and almost everthing seemed to work just > fine... except cervisia. I had to downgrade cervisia to make it work > again... It told me it could find "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" which > doesn't appear to exist. However, after the downgrade the file > "libkdeinit_cervisia.so" still doesn't exist but cervisia works just > fine. > > Has any one else had this problem and/or have a fix for it? Same problem here, no fix. :-( libkdeinit_cervisia.so seems to be missing. sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Accident, n.: A condition in which presence of mind is good, but absence of body is better. - Foolish Dictionary -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From opi at cyb3r.org Wed Jun 1 20:27:55 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:27:55 +0200 Subject: I need a Macromedia Flash Plugin for Konqueror In-Reply-To: <200506012106.58168.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200506012106.58168.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200506012227.55672.opi@cyb3r.org> On Wednesday 01 of June 2005 21:06, R.Koendering wrote: > My adsl provider (www.planet.nl) needs a flash plugin. It's a generic plugin. You can get it from Macromedia site or apt-get a flash package. Then you need to put it somewhere and point Konqueror to the plugin path. That's all. -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com From james at grayonline.id.au Wed Jun 1 20:48:51 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:48:51 +1000 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506012141.57236.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> Message-ID: <200506020648.56348.james@grayonline.id.au> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:41 am, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote: > On Wednesday 01 of June 2005 13:41, James Gray wrote: > > To quote "Roel Schouten" from about 9 hours ago in a message he sent to > > this very list: > > Maybe I skiped it. I'm getting ~500 mails per day. It's hard to read > everything. I simply did dpkg -i --force-all to let dpkg overwrite file. > > -- > Emil No biggie - I too am flooded with e-mail so I empathise :) My point was to give credit to Roel - he was the first to post the work-around and deserves the credit for it. The "9 hour" remark was simply to assist anyone searching the archives for the original. I'm sorry if I offended anyone - especially you Emil. Cheers, James -- I never thought that I'd see the day where Netscape is free software and X11 is proprietary. We live in interesting times. -- Matt Kimball From opi at cyb3r.org Wed Jun 1 21:16:25 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:16:25 +0200 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 packages In-Reply-To: <200506020648.56348.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <20050531150846.GU23128@muse.19inch.net> <200506011841.51730.opi@cyb3r.org> <200506020648.56348.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <200506012316.26154.opi@cyb3r.org> On Wednesday 01 of June 2005 22:48, James Gray wrote: > No biggie - I too am flooded with e-mail so I empathise :) Thanks $GOD for IMAP. :-) > I'm sorry if I > offended anyone - especially you Emil. You didn't! :-) I just wanted to notice about the problem. -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com From ian at eugeneweb.com Thu Jun 2 04:58:20 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:58:20 -0700 Subject: can't compile window decorations Message-ID: <200506012158.20292.ian@eugeneweb.com> I've got several window decoration things off kdelook.org and none of the configure scripts run. I always get this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! I've gotten libqt-dev and similar packages and none of it works. What packages do I need and do I need to point the configure script to my qt install directory? From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Thu Jun 2 09:15:13 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.Koendering) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:15:13 +0200 Subject: KDE-PIM Message-ID: <200506021115.14730.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Has Kubuntu the hotfix for kde-pim 3.4.1? It was released for several Linux versions and it is recommended at the kde site. PCLinux From jr at jriddell.org Thu Jun 2 10:02:37 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:37 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KDE-PIM In-Reply-To: <200506021115.14730.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200506021115.14730.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <20050602100237.GK25888@muse.19inch.net> On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:15:13AM +0200, R.Koendering wrote: > Has Kubuntu the hotfix for kde-pim 3.4.1? > > It was released for several Linux versions and it is recommended at the kde > site. The KPilot fix is in the packages. Is that the one you were meaning? Jonathan Riddell From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Jun 2 11:16:52 2005 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:16:52 +0100 Subject: Problems on waking after sleep (PowerPC) Message-ID: <20050602121652.0437694f.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> I've noticed that if I sleep my iBook (G3) by pressing the on/off switch or closing the lid, then on waking the KDE printing services and konqueror's cookie management are no longer working correctly. Although printing from the command line or from OpenOffice do still work fine. Are these familiar problems? Are they restricted to PPC? Are there any known workarounds? TIA James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From jr at jriddell.org Fri Jun 3 02:22:20 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:22:20 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] can't compile window decorations In-Reply-To: <200506012158.20292.ian@eugeneweb.com> References: <200506012158.20292.ian@eugeneweb.com> Message-ID: <20050603022220.GQ25888@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:58:20PM -0700, ian wrote: > I've got several window decoration things off kdelook.org and none of the > configure scripts run. I always get this: > > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and > libraries) not found. Please check your installation! > > I've gotten libqt-dev and similar packages and none of it works. What > packages do I need and do I need to point the configure script to my qt > install directory? I think they have an old version of the admin scripts which can't find Qt. Can you point us towards specific examples? Jonathan From james at grayonline.id.au Fri Jun 3 03:16:23 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:16:23 +1000 Subject: Kicker baloons black-on-black? Message-ID: <200506031316.28543.james@grayonline.id.au> Hi All, Quick question. Since installing the Baghira KDE Theme/Style, the kicker balloons have gone to black-on-black which means the text is only visible by virtue of the shadow. It looks awful :( See it here: http://www.grayonline.id.au/kicker-balloon.png The balloons were kinda cute to start with then became a little distracting, but now with this I'd rather just switch them off (is that even possible?). Failing that, does anyone know how to fix it? It seems to be a transparency issue because the ballons "reveal" the same way they used to except instead of having a grey background it's now black. KDE 3.4 (not 3.4.1) BTW. 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It looks awful :( > See it here: http://www.grayonline.id.au/kicker-balloon.png > > The balloons were kinda cute to start with then became a little > distracting, but now with this I'd rather just switch them off (is that > even possible?). Failing that, does anyone know how to fix it? Don't you hate it when you post a question then find the solution a few minutes later totally by accident? To turn off the balloony-thingys on kicker: 1. Right-click on kicker and select "Panel Menu -> Configure Panel..." 2. Select the "Appearance" tab 3. Deselect the "Enable icon mouseover effects" 4. Apply+OK. Done. No more balloony-thingys :) James -- You know it's Monday when you wake up and it's Tuesday. -- Garfield -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It looks awful :( > > See it here: http://www.grayonline.id.au/kicker-balloon.png > > > > The balloons were kinda cute to start with then became a little > > distracting, but now with this I'd rather just switch them off (is that > > even possible?). Failing that, does anyone know how to fix it? > > Don't you hate it when you post a question then find the solution a few > minutes later totally by accident? > > To turn off the balloony-thingys on kicker: > 1. Right-click on kicker and select "Panel Menu -> Configure Panel..." > 2. Select the "Appearance" tab > 3. Deselect the "Enable icon mouseover effects" > 4. Apply+OK. Done. > > No more balloony-thingys :) ah, but that's not the solution... that's just a workaround... it doesn't fix the fact that the balloony things are still black on black... the solution is to either fix the Baghira theme yourself and pass the patch to the author of it, or else send a bug report to him/her... > > James From james at grayonline.id.au Fri Jun 3 07:01:16 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:01:16 +1000 Subject: Kicker baloons black-on-black? (SOLVED - sorta) In-Reply-To: <200506030627.03117.paul.cooke100@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200506031316.28543.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506031334.55931.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506030627.03117.paul.cooke100@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <200506031701.19718.james@grayonline.id.au> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:27 pm, paul cooke wrote: > > Don't you hate it when you post a question then find the solution a few > > minutes later totally by accident? > > > > To turn off the balloony-thingys on kicker: > > 1. Right-click on kicker and select "Panel Menu -> Configure Panel..." > > 2. Select the "Appearance" tab > > 3. Deselect the "Enable icon mouseover effects" > > 4. Apply+OK. Done. > > > > No more balloony-thingys :) > > ah, but that's not the solution... that's just a workaround... it doesn't > fix the fact that the balloony things are still black on black... > > the solution is to either fix the Baghira theme yourself and pass the patch > to the author of it, or else send a bug report to him/her... Agreed - this is a work-around for the black-on-black but considering I wanted to turn them off anyway (see the OP) it is a fix in my case. As for fixing the Bahira theme, I'll grab the source and have a look into that but for now I'm happy. I don't think this warrants a bug report just yet as I'm not convinced it's Bahira's fault - my Hoary system still has some outstanding kde updates ;) Cheers, James -- BOFH excuse #203: Write-only-memory subsystem too slow for this machine. Contact your local dealer. From rblists at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 07:56:08 2005 From: rblists at gmail.com (Raphael Bauduin) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:08 +0200 Subject: kmail sent messages Message-ID: Hi, is it possible to configure kmail so that it saves the sent messages in the Sent forlder of the imap server? (and if yes, where's the option located :-) It is possible in Thunderbird and I'm really missing this feature in kmail. Thanks. Raph From roel_schouten at hotmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:07:38 2005 From: roel_schouten at hotmail.com (Roel Schouten) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:07:38 +0200 Subject: kmail sent messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: - Open Settings - Configure Kmail - In Identities, select the one you use and click Modify - In the Advanced tab you can define which Sent-mail folder to use. I must admit, I haven't tried this with imap, but I guess it should work. Roel. >From: Raphael Bauduin >Subject: kmail sent messages >Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:08 +0200 > >Hi, > >is it possible to configure kmail so that it saves the sent messages >in the Sent forlder of the imap server? (and if yes, where's the >option located :-) > It is possible in Thunderbird and I'm really missing this feature in >kmail. > >Thanks. > >Raph _________________________________________________________________ Log på MSN Messenger direkte fra nettet http://webmessenger.msn.com/ From rblists at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:23:25 2005 From: rblists at gmail.com (Raphael Bauduin) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:23:25 +0200 Subject: kmail sent messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/3/05, Roel Schouten wrote: > - Open Settings - Configure Kmail > - In Identities, select the one you use and click Modify > - In the Advanced tab you can define which Sent-mail folder to use. > > I must admit, I haven't tried this with imap, but I guess it should work. > it's working fine indeed, thanks. I was looking in the account settings. Raph > Roel. > > >From: Raphael Bauduin > >Subject: kmail sent messages > >Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:08 +0200 > > > >Hi, > > > >is it possible to configure kmail so that it saves the sent messages > >in the Sent forlder of the imap server? (and if yes, where's the > >option located :-) > > It is possible in Thunderbird and I'm really missing this feature in > >kmail. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Raph > > _________________________________________________________________ > Log på MSN Messenger direkte fra nettet http://webmessenger.msn.com/ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From james at grayonline.id.au Fri Jun 3 09:28:43 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:28:43 +1000 Subject: kmail sent messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506031928.46837.james@grayonline.id.au> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:07 pm, Roel Schouten wrote: > - Open Settings - Configure Kmail > - In Identities, select the one you use and click Modify > - In the Advanced tab you can define which Sent-mail folder to use. > > I must admit, I haven't tried this with imap, but I guess it should work. > > Roel. I've got a local mail account, 4 imap accounts a pop3 account all of which have individual "sent items" configurations. Works like a charm! Plus it's the only mail client I've found that can reliably filter incoming mail on imap servers from the client (ie, not procmail-based server side filtering). Cheers, James -- If a man slept by day, he had little time to work. That was a satisfying notion to Escargot. -- "The Stone Giant", James P. Blaylock From ian at eugeneweb.com Fri Jun 3 13:47:36 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:47:36 -0700 Subject: [kubuntu-users] can't compile window decorations In-Reply-To: <20050603022220.GQ25888@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506012158.20292.ian@eugeneweb.com> <20050603022220.GQ25888@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <42A05F78.6050002@eugeneweb.com> This is the main one I'd like to get working http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=5063 Jonathan Riddell wrote: >On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:58:20PM -0700, ian wrote: > > >>I've got several window decoration things off kdelook.org and none of the >>configure scripts run. I always get this: >> >>checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and >>libraries) not found. Please check your installation! >> >>I've gotten libqt-dev and similar packages and none of it works. What >>packages do I need and do I need to point the configure script to my qt >>install directory? >> >> > >I think they have an old version of the admin scripts which can't find >Qt. Can you point us towards specific examples? > >Jonathan > > > From rsevenic at netscape.net Fri Jun 3 17:37:23 2005 From: rsevenic at netscape.net (rsevenic at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:37:23 -0400 Subject: losing frequent kestrokes Message-ID: <3963C499.5A660846.00A98093@netscape.net> By this point, I've happily installed kubuntu on several machines successfully, but have run into a glitch on a second laptop - as follows: keystrokes are lost frequently enough so that the system is virtually unusable it happens when running in X or when a ctrl-alt-f1 to console mode I tried reinstalling; I also tried a newer kernel I installed ubuntu in place of kubuntu and got the same behavior (to sidestep KDE) I have a properly performing libranet 3.0 in a different partition on the same machine (and even stole its xorg.conf) Any ideas would be welcome. Regards, Richard __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From sarava at verizon.net Fri Jun 3 19:36:02 2005 From: sarava at verizon.net (sarava at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:36:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: keyboard problems Message-ID: <18510006.1117827362561.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net> ok so today as I wasworking on my computer my keyboard stoped working. I restarted my computer an upon entering KDM I was able to type my password, but whne I loged into KDE my keyboard was useless. Then I turned off my computer and turned it back on and the same problem . My keyboard works for KDM, but not for KDE any ideas would be greatly apreciated the only new thing is that I installed the new KDE 3.4.1 From carney1979 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:50:02 2005 From: carney1979 at gmail.com (David M. Carney) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:50:02 -0400 Subject: keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <18510006.1117827362561.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net> References: <18510006.1117827362561.JavaMail.root@vms071.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <200506031550.02918.carney1979@gmail.com> You might try moving or renaming your ~/.kde folder so KDE is forced to remake another with default settings. If your keyboard works, then you can maybe move things back slowly until you get it back except for the errant config file. David -- Registered Linux User #297958 http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ On Friday 03 June 2005 15:36, sarava at verizon.net wrote: > ok so today as I wasworking on my computer my keyboard stoped working. > I restarted my computer an upon entering KDM I was able to type my > password, but whne I loged into KDE my keyboard was useless. Then I turned > off my computer and turned it back on and the same problem . My keyboard > works for KDM, but not for KDE any ideas would be greatly apreciated the > only new thing is that I installed the new KDE 3.4.1 From sarava at verizon.net Sat Jun 4 15:38:05 2005 From: sarava at verizon.net (Sara Vasquez) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:38:05 -0400 Subject: how to check the temperature Message-ID: <42A1CADD.1030206@verizon.net> Hi I think one of my fans stoped working, ut my sister just put too many of them, but now I wonder if there is place wher eI can checke the temp in KDE and stuff like that. From amu at ubuntu.com Sat Jun 4 15:43:28 2005 From: amu at ubuntu.com (Andreas Mueller) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:43:28 +0200 Subject: how to check the temperature In-Reply-To: <42A1CADD.1030206@verizon.net> References: <42A1CADD.1030206@verizon.net> Message-ID: Am 04.06.2005 um 17:38 schrieb Sara Vasquez: I use mbmon mbmon - Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client) xmbmon - Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (X client) run sudo apt-get install xmbmon > Hi I think one of my fans stoped working, ut my sister just put too > many of them, but now I wonder if there is place wher eI can > checke the temp in KDE and stuff like that. > > Cheers, amu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dick Barmann From netmaxd at yahoo.ca Sat Jun 4 19:02:32 2005 From: netmaxd at yahoo.ca (netmaxd) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:02:32 -0400 Subject: Install Web Cam In-Reply-To: <200506041200.34795.reb68@bellsouth.net> References: <200506041200.34795.reb68@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <42A1FAC8.1010509@yahoo.ca> Richard Barmann a écrit : >I had to change a bad hard drive and am back to installing the cam again. I >have installed all that you listed except "v41-conf" and "libpt-plugins-v41". >They are not in Synaptic or Knaptic. I also did a Find Files search to see if >they were aready installed. No such luck. Is there another to replace these? >Dick Barmann > > > To check that all your link are active in your file 'sources.list' (/etc/apt..) and then to remake an update with Kynaptic. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ian at eugeneweb.com Sat Jun 4 21:06:56 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:06:56 -0700 Subject: how to check the temperature In-Reply-To: References: <42A1CADD.1030206@verizon.net> Message-ID: <42A217F0.40909@eugeneweb.com> also, ksensors is nice, puts your cpu temp in the system tray Andreas Mueller wrote: > Am 04.06.2005 um 17:38 schrieb Sara Vasquez: > > I use mbmon > > mbmon - Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client) > xmbmon - Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (X client) > > run sudo apt-get install xmbmon > > > >> Hi I think one of my fans stoped working, ut my sister just put too >> many of them, but now I wonder if there is place wher eI can checke >> the temp in KDE and stuff like that. >> >> > > > Cheers, > amu > > From ian at eugeneweb.com Sat Jun 4 21:11:57 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:11:57 -0700 Subject: no dcop calls for basic information from apps? Message-ID: <42A2191D.6030503@eugeneweb.com> I've just been learning about dcop and it looks like a really cool system. So I got the idea, why not make a little perl script that outputs my current playing music, if I have new mail, new posts in my rss feeds or any other inforamation, and then have the phosphor screensaver run that? So, the result is that I now have a nice screensaver that displays the current track from amarok, but I can't get the data I want from my other apps. It seems like the dcop calls just aren't there. Like getting current unread posts from akregator or new messages from kopete, or the number of unread messages from korn. I've looked through kdcop and can't seem to find the calls I need. Am I missing something? if these features just aren't implimented in the dcop interface why not? is there another way to script this stuff? From roel_schouten at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 06:01:42 2005 From: roel_schouten at hotmail.com (Roel Schouten) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 08:01:42 +0200 Subject: Hibernate Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have any experience with enabling hibernate on a normal desktop system (not a laptop)? Roel. _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk/ From roel_schouten at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 06:29:01 2005 From: roel_schouten at hotmail.com (Roel Schouten) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 08:29:01 +0200 Subject: Switch user & sound Message-ID: Hi, When I use the "Switch user" function in KDE, arts pops-up an error message after the second user has logged in: ----- Sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) The sound server will continue, using the null output device. ----- Isn't it possible for 2 users to be logged in simultanuously and share the sound device? Roel. _________________________________________________________________ Del din verden med MSN Spaces http://spaces.msn.com From alain.muls at telenet.be Sun Jun 5 10:09:42 2005 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 12:09:42 +0200 Subject: Heated processor Message-ID: <1117966182.10558.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I switch from SuSE to Ubuntu a couple of weeks ago. Almost everything works as good or better, but I have a couple of issues still open: 1. I do a lot of compiling C++/Java code and the processor heats up, causing the PC to just stop working after having received a message about the temperature. I have a DELL Inspiron 5100. How do I set up a powersaving that would reduce the speed of the processor when not doing something intensive? 2. I use the i386 kernel but would like to switch to the i686 kernel. I did this the second day I installed Ubuntu, but when I compiled the VPN from Cisco, I got an error message stating that the header files were incorrect. I searched for this but in vain. I posted also to this list, but since I did not have sufficient time, I reinstalled from scratch. 3. The java program uses the javax.comm implementation for serial communication. All compiles well, but I can only run the program as root, and not as a normal user. I searched for 'lock' files and so on, but could not find a solution. I would like to avoid this. Any ideas? Tx Best regards, ________________________________________________________________________ Alain Muls From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 5 13:05:29 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:05:29 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems Message-ID: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> Hello everyone, let me explain the issue I have that doesn'T allow me to use Kubuntu as much as I'd like; Basically I do not have DMA enabled for my IDE devices and can't do so either. sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd? gives me an error message: /dev/hdd: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma = 0 (off) This has happened to me before with other Debian systems. Previously the issue could have been 'solved' by compiling my own kernel where I'd include "amd74xx" in the kernel itself - not as a module. Even though I've owned a different system at that time*, the issue is the same and I'm sure re-compiling could help here. *Then I had an nForce2 Motherboard, now I have a MSI K8T Neo2 with a Via K8T800 Pro chipset. Luckily I only have two IDE devices now - both DVD drives. My harddisks are SATA and working fine. So I've used Kubuntu happily for quite some time. Now I have to use the DVD drives a bit more and partly switched to another distribution, mostly for that reason. There I do not have that issue. It's SuSE 9.3, which uses a 2.6.11 kernel and it's the x86_64 version. Since this doesn't seem to be limited to me, I had the slight hope using the 2.6.10-k7 kernel might fix it (maybe the module was included here), but it didn't. It's not very sensible to hope using the x86_64 version of Kubuntu will fix it, is it? Is there any chance this might be solved with breezy? Maybe with the next Ubuntu 2.6.11? It wouldn't be sensible to ask for a solution here if this issue only affected me, but from what I can tell quite a few AMD users are affected - it seems rather common to just build your own kernel (including amd74xx in the kernel) and be done with it - so maybe it's a kernel bug. So if it is I guess Kubuntu as a good desktop distro might want to provide a solution in the meantime like e.g. SuSE does. I hope I've already included all the necessary information - if not, I'd be happy to provide more info. Here's a thread (in german) about the issue I had in debian - there are more issues later, but the basics seem the same: http://www.debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36651&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= Kind regards, Christoph Wiesen From edulix at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 13:14:21 2005 From: edulix at gmail.com (Eduardo Robles Elvira) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:14:21 +0200 Subject: Heated processor In-Reply-To: <1117966182.10558.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117966182.10558.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200506051514.22040.edulix@gmail.com> El Domingo 05 Junio 2005 12:09, Alain Muls escribió: > Hi, > > I switch from SuSE to Ubuntu a couple of weeks ago. Almost everything > works as good or better, but I have a couple of issues still open: Hey, another "ex-SuSEr" like me that went to kubuntu ;-) > 1. I do a lot of compiling C++/Java code and the processor heats up, > causing the PC to just stop working after having received a message > about the temperature. I have a DELL Inspiron 5100. How do I set up a > powersaving that would reduce the speed of the processor when not doing > something intensive? My kubuntu laptop is also a Dell Inspiron 4150, and I've also had that kind of heating problems. My father was the one who used this computer before, and he told me that it never happened to him in Windows. I don't have Windows installed anymore, but I belive that there's a problem with Dell Inspiron (w/ Pentium 4 Mobile) and Linux. When CPU reaches 69ºC, the BIOS automatically set CPU throttling to T6 and I end up having a CPU at ~400 Mhz.. and the only way to return to a sane state is to halt and then start the computer again (reboot doesn't do the trick). I've been tunning my PC using some tricks so that it doesn't heat: 1º) I installed and configured i8kmon, that sets CPU fan speed depeding on CPU temperature. 2º) I created the bash script sysperf [1] (SYStem PERFormer). For now it has just one module, throttling, which sets CPU throttling automatically depeding on CPU temperature (T0, T1, ..., T6). 3º) When I hear an Audio CD, I execute "eject -x 1 /dev/cdrom" so that it lowers the cd speed. I still have problems playing video in the laptop, it just doesn't play smoothly. Oh it seems that I've never mentioned sysperf in this list before :-). It comes with instructions and needed information in the README, and was developed in Kubuntu and a Dell Inspiron similar to yours (I belive), so you shouldn't have any problem. I can tell you that I've tested system performer and under heavy load it just works well to me. You could need to tweak the configuration file a bit.. if you do so send it to me. Any comments from anyone about this approach are welcomed ;-). Cheers, Edulix. -- [1] http://developer.berlios.de/projects/sysperf From th at monochrom.at Sun Jun 5 13:53:16 2005 From: th at monochrom.at (Thomas Hofer) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:53:16 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200506051553.16333.th@monochrom.at> Christoph Wiesen wrote: [Sunday 05 June 2005 15:05] > sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd? gives me an error message: > > /dev/hdd: > setting using_dma to 1 (on) > HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted > using_dma = 0 (off) > > This has happened to me before with other Debian systems. > > Previously the issue could have been 'solved' by compiling my own > kernel where I'd include "amd74xx" in the kernel itself - not as a > module. Even though I've owned a different system at that time*, the > issue is the same and I'm sure re-compiling could help here. I had the same problem with my Tyan Tiger MPX board. The culprit was the generic IDE kernel module, that was loaded by /etc/modules before the amd74xx module. (That's why compiling in helps, BTW) My solution was to insert "amd74xx" as first line into /etc/modules and reboot. I think commenting out the lines starting with ide- should also do the trick, but I'm not sure why those modules are there. bye, Thomas. From support at bigriverinfotech.com Sun Jun 5 15:11:38 2005 From: support at bigriverinfotech.com (Raymond) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:11:38 +0000 Subject: Redhat Directory Server Installation Message-ID: <200506051511.40198.support@bigriverinfotech.com> Anybody had any success installing the Redhat / Fedora Directory (ldap) server on Kubuntu ? Raymond From ian at eugeneweb.com Sun Jun 5 17:33:48 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:33:48 -0700 Subject: looking for a good linux laptop Message-ID: <42A3377C.60308@eugeneweb.com> I'm looking to buy a laptop, hopefully for under $1800 or so. Can anyone recommend a laptop that works well and ubuntu/kubuntu has good hardware support for? A friend has suggested I consider the apple iBook or a Compaq From ian at eugeneweb.com Sun Jun 5 17:37:09 2005 From: ian at eugeneweb.com (ian) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:37:09 -0700 Subject: Switch user & sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A33845.80806@eugeneweb.com> As far as I know, its strictly one sound server per device. I think the problem is you need is for the second session to use the same sound server as the first one. speaking of sound servers, does anyone know if kde has plans add sound to krdc? Roel Schouten wrote: > Hi, > > When I use the "Switch user" function in KDE, arts pops-up an error > message after the second user has logged in: > ----- > Sound server informational message: > Error while initializing the sound driver: > device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy) > The sound server will continue, using the null output device. > ----- > > Isn't it possible for 2 users to be logged in simultanuously and share > the sound device? > > Roel. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Del din verden med MSN Spaces http://spaces.msn.com > > From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 5 17:39:15 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:39:15 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: <200506051553.16333.th@monochrom.at> References: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> <200506051553.16333.th@monochrom.at> Message-ID: <200506051939.15984.chris@deadhand.com> Am Sonntag 05 Juni 2005 15:53 schrieb Thomas Hofer: > My solution was to insert "amd74xx" as first line into /etc/modules and > reboot. Now look there, what me and Google couldn't solve in several hours of investigation you did in one sentence. Thank you, Thomas! I actually did several attempts at /etc/modules. But I learned two things here: Happily appending everything at the *end* of the file isn't always the best thing to do. And second: I should take a minute and consider what the changed config file will actually *do*... oh my. All things done I'm almost there. Now I can enable DMA with hdparm for both my DVD drives. The module in question was actually "via82cxxx" and not "amd74xx" - so the issue is not limited to a specific chipset or module it seems, no idea why some (or many) with apparently similar systems do not have these troubles. Back on topic I still have to enable hdparm manually. Can you tell me as well, how I can automate this? I'd rather not have to use hdparm inside a script (though I'd like to hear about this as well if theres no other way). I thought there was a way to tell the system to always try to use DMA if possible... Thanks again for the quick help, this is, well... a lot better than compiling my own kernel ;) Kind regards, Chris From th at monochrom.at Sun Jun 5 18:31:42 2005 From: th at monochrom.at (Thomas Hofer) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:31:42 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: <200506051939.15984.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> <200506051553.16333.th@monochrom.at> <200506051939.15984.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200506052031.42638.th@monochrom.at> Christoph Wiesen wrote: [Sunday 05 June 2005 19:39] > what me and Google couldn't solve in several hours of investigation > you did in one sentence. Thank you, Thomas! I'm glad I was able to help, because it took me quite some time to find the answer using google. It was so hard to find, because I was dead-sure the amd74xx was loaded, so I didn't look at the right places. > Back on topic I still have to enable hdparm manually. Can you tell me > as well, how I can automate this? I'd rather not have to use hdparm > inside a script (though I'd like to hear about this as well if theres > no other way). I thought there was a way to tell the system to always > try to use DMA if possible... After changing /etc/modules, it worked out-of-the-box for me. Maybe it depends on your chipset whether DMA is activated automatically? Looking at /etc/init.d/hdparm, I'd say that /etc/hdparm.conf is the right place to configure the hdparm defaults for the drives, if necessary. bye, Thomas. From sebas at kde.nl Sun Jun 5 23:58:35 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:58:35 +0200 Subject: Hibernate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506060158.36194.sebas@kde.nl> On Sunday 05 June 2005 08:01, Roel Schouten wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with enabling hibernate on a normal desktop > system (not a laptop)? Yes, it does not really depend on the type of machine as in laptop <-> desktop but on the hardware and drivers used. A good starting point might be http://www.suspend2.net Cheers, -- sebas - - - - - - - - - - - http://vizZzion.org ====================== FORCE YOURSELF TO RELAX! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dripple From mike at kambe.com.au Mon Jun 6 20:25:24 2005 From: mike at kambe.com.au (Mike Benson) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:25:24 +1000 Subject: Switch user & sound In-Reply-To: <24436839.1118077949085.JavaMail.root@sniper28> References: <24436839.1118077949085.JavaMail.root@sniper28> Message-ID: <200506070625.24148.mike@kambe.com.au> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:12 am, ian wrote: > As far as I know, its strictly one sound server per device.  I think the > problem is you need is for the second session to use the same sound > server as the first one. Yes, when artsd starts up, it locks the sound device in such a way that no other process can open it. Even on sound devices (like ALSA) that support multiple clients. That's annoying if not all your client programs are kde, and want to talk to the sound hardware in other ways :-( artsd is capable of muxing multiple clients (including over a network), what the switch user process needs to do is connect the new user to the existing artsd, instead of starting a new one.... Mike From chris at deadhand.com Mon Jun 6 21:09:37 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:09:37 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: <200506052031.42638.th@monochrom.at> References: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> <200506051939.15984.chris@deadhand.com> <200506052031.42638.th@monochrom.at> Message-ID: <200506062309.38145.chris@deadhand.com> Am Sonntag 05 Juni 2005 20:31 schrieb Thomas Hofer: > Looking at /etc/init.d/hdparm, I'd say that /etc/hdparm.conf is the > right place to configure the hdparm defaults for the drives, if > necessary. > > bye, > Thomas. Ok, /etc/hdparm.conf was the correct place to go. I now have working DMA enabled at bootime for both my DVD drives. Unfortunately system performance is bad right now - really bad. The sentence I just wrote appeared on screen only after a few seconds. This is while I'm copying some files from ~ to /data - both are partitions on the same SATA harddisk. Hmm, burning DVDs worked fine now by the way. Anyway i'll have to see if again removing the via module from /etc/modules (thus loosing dma for the dvd-drives) will fix this issue again - at least I think it wasn't so bad before, when I copied files. Now transfer rates drop below 1MB/s and then stay around 1.2MB/s which really isn't what a SATA drive should do. But to me 'hdparm -tT /dev/sda' seems to be ok: /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 2268 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1133.04 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 158 MB in 3.01 seconds = 52.41 MB/sec This is with the exact settings I'm using now. But starting a copy with Konqueror (kio_file) will first make it 'crawl' at 1.2MB/s and then, when I dare to do something like open a text file in kate make my whole system so slow it's not useable anymore and I have to stop the copy to regain control. But what to 'blame' I do not know - and I seem to be run out of options. At least i do not know what else to do now. So basically I'm lost again. Tomorrow I'll see how it behaves without first loading the via module (so without using dma on the ide devices). It's too late today. I just wanted to write this to the list first, hoping someone can help me here again. Kind regards, Chris From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Tue Jun 7 07:11:37 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:11:37 +0300 Subject: Kmix launching in full size at KDE startup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506071011.37931.ziogelis77@takas.lt> 2005 m. Birželio 6 d., Pirmadienis 11:51, Dripple rašė: > I'm a happy Kubuntu user since 5.04. I recently updated my box to KDE > 3.4.1 and installed ThinkPad Buttons, for I run Kubuntu on a Thinkpad > T30. I don't know which one did this, but now, at each KDE startup, KMix > is launched in a full window instead of minimized in tray. > > Anyone knows how to prevent this ? Did you try to play with KDE Control Center > KDE components > Session manager module? It may be that you have a setting that restores a previously saved session with kmix opened... If you save session anew or switch setting to "restore previous session" this problem will go away. If not, I have no idea... I had the same problem with kde 3.1 on Mandrake mashine before, and mangling with Session manager did not help. -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From tobias at karmabits.net Tue Jun 7 07:34:02 2005 From: tobias at karmabits.net (Tobias Eichert) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:34:02 +0200 Subject: Not able to change KDM theme settings Message-ID: <200506070934.02438.tobias@karmabits.net> Hello, I can't change KDM theme settings when trying to switch to "Administrator Mode". Instead I'm redirected to some kind of kcontrol info screen (the one you get when starting kcontrol). When I create a root account, I can switch to "Administrator Mode" and change settings - nevertheless, I don't see any changes (like the GUI style and background KDM should use) even after restarting KDM and X in general. Can anybody help? Tobias From tobias at karmabits.net Tue Jun 7 07:39:19 2005 From: tobias at karmabits.net (Tobias Eichert) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:39:19 +0200 Subject: Not able to change KDM theme settings (version number) Message-ID: <200506070939.19148.tobias@karmabits.net> It's KDE-3.4.1 (kubuntu.org packages repo) running on Hoary. Tobias From edulix at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:03:19 2005 From: edulix at gmail.com (Eduardo Robles Elvira) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:03:19 +0200 Subject: Kmix launching in full size at KDE startup In-Reply-To: <200506071011.37931.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <200506071011.37931.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: <200506071103.19534.edulix@gmail.com> El Martes 07 Junio 2005 09:11, Donatas G. escribió: > > I'm a happy Kubuntu user since 5.04. I recently updated my box to KDE > > 3.4.1 and installed ThinkPad Buttons, for I run Kubuntu on a Thinkpad > > T30. I don't know which one did this, but now, at each KDE startup, KMix > > is launched in a full window instead of minimized in tray. > > > > Anyone knows how to prevent this ? Yeah what about it ? I'm having the same problem since I updated to KDE 3.4.1 - I don't bother me too much but it would be idea to fix it. Greetings, Edulix. From bertrand.haut at brutele.be Tue Jun 7 09:20:26 2005 From: bertrand.haut at brutele.be (berti) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:20:26 +0200 Subject: Not able to change KDM theme settings In-Reply-To: <200506070934.02438.tobias@karmabits.net> References: <200506070934.02438.tobias@karmabits.net> Message-ID: <200506071120.26122.bertrand.haut@brutele.be> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:34, Tobias Eichert wrote: > Hello, > > I can't change KDM theme settings when trying to switch to "Administrator > Mode". Instead I'm redirected to some kind of kcontrol info screen (the one > you get when starting kcontrol). When I create a root account, I can switch > to "Administrator Mode" and change settings - nevertheless, I don't see any > changes (like the GUI style and background KDM should use) even after > restarting KDM and X in general. > > Can anybody help? I had the same problem and solved it by setting the language to "US English" in " Regional & Accessibility" -- "Country/region & Language". I don't know why but it works like that for me. > > Tobias -- Berti ICQ 48978874 pgpkey B9514013C02E33FA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm having the same problem since I updated to KDE 3.4.1 > - I don't bother me too much but it would be idea to fix it. > > Greetings, > Edulix. > From dripple2 at laposte.net Tue Jun 7 13:43:51 2005 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:43:51 +0200 Subject: Kmix launching in full size at KDE startup In-Reply-To: <200506071011.37931.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <200506071011.37931.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: <42A5A497.1060601@laposte.net> Does not help here neither... Donatas G. a écrit : > 2005 m. Birželio 6 d., Pirmadienis 11:51, Dripple rašė: > >>I'm a happy Kubuntu user since 5.04. I recently updated my box to KDE >>3.4.1 and installed ThinkPad Buttons, for I run Kubuntu on a Thinkpad >>T30. I don't know which one did this, but now, at each KDE startup, KMix >>is launched in a full window instead of minimized in tray. >> >>Anyone knows how to prevent this ? > > > Did you try to play with KDE Control Center > KDE components > Session > manager module? > > It may be that you have a setting that restores a previously saved session > with kmix opened... If you save session anew or switch setting to "restore > previous session" this problem will go away. > > If not, I have no idea... I had the same problem with kde 3.1 on Mandrake > mashine before, and mangling with Session manager did not help. > From tobias at karmabits.net Tue Jun 7 16:10:14 2005 From: tobias at karmabits.net (Tobias Eichert) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:10:14 +0200 Subject: Not able to change KDM theme settings In-Reply-To: <200506071120.26122.bertrand.haut@brutele.be> References: <200506070934.02438.tobias@karmabits.net> <200506071120.26122.bertrand.haut@brutele.be> Message-ID: <200506071810.14434.tobias@karmabits.net> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 11:20, berti wrote: > I had the same problem and solved it by setting the language to "US > English" in " Regional & Accessibility" -- "Country/region & Language". I > don't know why but it works like that for me. Thanks, that seems to be working although kdm won't apply my settings, i.e. there's still the kubuntu background with the login mask in the middle of the screen and the two big icons in the lower left.. so in general, I'm able to make changes but I won't see them. Do you also have a workaround for this one? :-) Regards, Tobias From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 7 20:00:17 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:00:17 +0100 Subject: Not able to change KDM theme settings In-Reply-To: <200506071810.14434.tobias@karmabits.net> References: <200506070934.02438.tobias@karmabits.net> <200506071120.26122.bertrand.haut@brutele.be> <200506071810.14434.tobias@karmabits.net> Message-ID: Tobias Eichert wrote: > Thanks, that seems to be working although kdm won't apply my settings, i.e. > there's still the kubuntu background with the login mask in the middle of the > screen and the two big icons in the lower left.. so in general, I'm able to > make changes but I won't see them. > > Do you also have a workaround for this one? :-) Edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.conf (Not sure of the filename as I am in Windows at the moment) - Look for the line: UseTheme=True Change this to false then reload kdm. Works a treat! From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Wed Jun 8 15:34:55 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R. Koendering) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:34:55 +0200 Subject: howto K3b?? Message-ID: <200506081734.56386.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> I try to burn a cd, but k3b tells me: Cdrecord has no permission to open the device You may use K3bsetup2 to solve this problem K3bsetup2 is not available as far as I can see What to do? Ruud - Netherlands From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Wed Jun 8 17:05:03 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R. Koendering) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 19:05:03 +0200 Subject: K3b problems . . . . . . . Message-ID: <200506081905.03373.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Can not burn a CD read following output: Devices ----------------------- LITE-ON LTR-52327S QS0C (/dev/scd0, ) at /media/cdrom1 [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM] [CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R] TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2502 1011 (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-ROM; DVD-ROM] [DVD-ROM; CD-ROM] [None] System ----------------------- K3b Version: 0.11.23 KDE Version: 3.4.1 QT Version: 3.3.3 Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386 cdrecord ----------------------- /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-5-386 /usr/bin/cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. /usr/bin/cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. /usr/bin/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). /usr/bin/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: '2,0,0' scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0 Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver. /usr/bin/cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. /usr/bin/cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. /usr/bin/cdrecord: /usr/bin/cdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc /usr/bin/cdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup . Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a38 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an unofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM cdrecord comand: ----------------------- /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap -v gracetime=2 dev=2,0,0 speed=40 -tao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data /home/ruud/alinux.iso running this command in the Konsole: NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an unofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to . The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-5-386 /usr/bin/cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. /usr/bin/cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM /usr/bin/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). /usr/bin/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: '2,0,0' scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0 Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. Who can help? Ruud - Netherlands From aprestn5 at telus.net Thu Jun 9 03:47:14 2005 From: aprestn5 at telus.net (Alastair Preston) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:47:14 -0600 Subject: K3b problems . . . . . . . In-Reply-To: <200506081905.03373.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200506081905.03373.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200506082147.14951.aprestn5@telus.net> On Wednesday June 8 2005 11:05 am, R. Koendering wrote: > Can not burn a CD > > read following output: The answer to your problem is obvious from the output: > > Devices > ----------------------- > LITE-ON LTR-52327S QS0C This is an E-IDE drive........ That information should have been on the box it came in and on the label on the drive. > (/dev/scd0, ) That is a SCSI drive designation..... > > cdrecord > ----------------------- > /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-5-386 This is a 2.6 kernel ...... doesn't use SCSI emulation for IDE CD drives. > scsidev: '2,0,0' > scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0 > Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying More SCSI designations - but your drive isn't SCSI. You are having problems because you didn't do your homework. That CD writer is an E-IDE device, not a scsi device, yet you are trying to access it as if it were SCSI. Set it up as an IDE drive, which is what it is. You do NOT need scsi emulation for IDE CD-writers with a 2.6 kernel. K3B works perfectly well with Lite-on IDE CD-writers on 2.6 kernels if the drive is properly set up. Al Preston From tobias at karmabits.net Wed Jun 1 16:26:18 2005 From: tobias at karmabits.net (Tobias Eichert) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:26:18 +0200 Subject: A general question regarding KDE releases In-Reply-To: <429DD108.7010708@laposte.net> References: <429DD108.7010708@laposte.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:15:20 +0200, Dripple wrote: > Well, I upgraded to KDE 3.4.1 / Hoary with no particular problem... > > just follow the guide : > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php > Thanks for the hint. Are those deb packages officially supported by the Kubuntu team or are they just there to satisfy Hoary users waiting for a bugfix release? Nice work! And please CC me. :) Tobias -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From jark at shaw.ca Fri Jun 3 03:54:00 2005 From: jark at shaw.ca (James A.R. Koehler) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 03:54:00 +0000 Subject: USB Mouse not there Message-ID: <1117770840.32547.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a Compaq Presario laptop with the AMD-64. I installed the 64-bit version of Kubuntu and everything is fine except that I can only use the touch-pad rather than my preference of a USB mouse. I've tried a Logitech Optical mouse and also a wireless USB Optical mouse. Neither are detected. How do I get the system to recognize the mouse? From patrick.vonreth at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 17:51:45 2005 From: patrick.vonreth at gmail.com (Patrick von Reth) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:51:45 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu Message-ID: every time I tried to install kubuntu the system crashed in the same moment. 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Jonathan Riddell From edulix at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 18:42:00 2005 From: edulix at gmail.com (Eduardo Robles Elvira) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:42:00 +0200 Subject: K3b problems . . . . . . . In-Reply-To: <200506082147.14951.aprestn5@telus.net> References: <200506081905.03373.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <200506082147.14951.aprestn5@telus.net> Message-ID: <200506092042.08810.edulix@gmail.com> Sorry, I don't think that saying he didn't do his homework is a good answer at all. It seems to me that the problem is not that he didn't do it, but rather that Kubuntu didn't detect and configure it properly, but it could (I belive!), and thus it's a bug - either in kubuntu itself, hotplug, cdrecord, whatever - and despite that, of course, the easiest solution for him might be to fix it manually, it's not the user faultt =). Greetings, Edulix. El Jueves 09 Junio 2005 05:47, Alastair Preston escribió: > More SCSI designations    -  but your drive isn't SCSI. > > You are having problems because you didn't do your homework. That CD writer > is an E-IDE device, not a scsi device, yet you are trying to access it as > if it were SCSI.   Set it up as an IDE drive, which is what it is. You do > NOT need scsi emulation for IDE CD-writers with a 2.6 kernel. > > K3B works perfectly well with Lite-on IDE CD-writers on 2.6 kernels if the > drive is properly set up. From reb68 at bellsouth.net Thu Jun 9 18:58:15 2005 From: reb68 at bellsouth.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:58:15 -0400 Subject: Synaptic Message-ID: <200506091458.16864.reb68@bellsouth.net> When installing from Synaptic I get an error window that reads "E: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" Is this a Kubuntu problem or a Linux problem. Does anyone have any input for me as to the cause or correction? Thank You Dick Barmann From sebas at kde.nl Thu Jun 9 19:07:32 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?utf-8?q?K=C3=BCgler?=) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:07:32 +0200 Subject: USB Mouse not there In-Reply-To: <1117770840.32547.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1117770840.32547.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200506092107.32723.sebas@kde.nl> On Friday 03 June 2005 05:54, James A.R. Koehler wrote: > I have a Compaq Presario laptop with the AMD-64. I installed the > 64-bit version of Kubuntu and everything is fine except that I can > only use the touch-pad rather than my preference of a USB mouse. > I've tried a Logitech Optical mouse and also a wireless USB Optical > mouse. Neither are detected. How do I get the system to recognize > the mouse? You probably need to add it to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it goes like this: * First off, you need a section that tells Xorg that there's a USB mouse, add something like this to your xorg.conf: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Usbmouse" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Then you have to tell Xorg to take your mouse into account, like this: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Usbmouse" # This line has to be added. 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It a problem with the kernel package you're trying to > install. Actually an "Ubuntu problem", no general Linux problem. > > Cheers, > > sebas The following is the result ofentering the above ----------- root at adsl-065-005-184-154:/home/richard # sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.2) ... /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device Failed to create initrd image. dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root at adsl-065-005-184-154:/home/richard # Thank You From chris at deadhand.com Thu Jun 9 20:05:50 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:05:50 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: <200506062309.38145.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200506051505.29127.chris@deadhand.com> <200506052031.42638.th@monochrom.at> <200506062309.38145.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200506092205.50838.chris@deadhand.com> Am Montag 06 Juni 2005 23:09 schrieb Christoph Wiesen: > But what to 'blame' I do not know - and I seem to be run out of options. At > least i do not know what else to do now. So basically I'm lost again. > > Tomorrow I'll see how it behaves without first loading the via module (so > without using dma on the ide devices). It's too late today. I just wanted > to write this to the list first, hoping someone can help me here again. Well, I couldn't really pinpoint this. I couldn't reproduce the slowdowns reliably and can't tell for sure if it actually is better when I'm running without the via module beeing loaded via /etc/modules. Anyway it did happen and I hope to have something more concrete sometime I can come back with to this list. My main concern is that (if it actually is a kubuntu/debian issue) it could be fixed for a future release. I'm sure next time it happens it won't be when I'd 'like' to, but when I actually need to do something ;) So, thanks for alle the help and the open ears. Any more advice and maybe the possibility to get my initial error fixed within kubuntu would be great though. Kind regards, Christoph Wiesen From chris at deadhand.com Thu Jun 9 20:10:09 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:10:09 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: A general question regarding KDE releases In-Reply-To: <20050609171735.GU25888@muse.19inch.net> References: <20050609171735.GU25888@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506092210.09961.chris@deadhand.com> Am Donnerstag 09 Juni 2005 19:17 schrieb Jonathan Riddell: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:26:18PM +0200, Tobias Eichert wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:15:20 +0200, Dripple wrote: > > >Well, I upgraded to KDE 3.4.1 / Hoary with no particular problem... > > > > > >just follow the guide : > > >http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php > > > > Are those deb packages officially supported by the Kubuntu team or are > > they just > > there to satisfy Hoary users waiting for a bugfix release? > > They are supported. Problems are best reported on this list. > > Jonathan Riddell Thanks for the info, I will install them now. Had the intention of keeping this installation 'clean', meaning I intend to use as less unsupported or third party packages as possible (kubuntu is a great base for this), to keep my system well upgradeable. Maybe you could make it a bit more clear on kununtu.org, that these 3.4.1 packages are not like the unsopported (and sometimes semi-buggy) packages SuSE has for KDE releases, but are actually supported by Kubuntu. Great to see this kind of involvement with KDE and getting new realeases ready for general use, the day they become available. Thanks! From aprestn5 at telus.net Fri Jun 10 01:48:59 2005 From: aprestn5 at telus.net (Alastair Preston) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:48:59 -0600 Subject: K3b problems . . . . . . . In-Reply-To: <200506092042.08810.edulix@gmail.com> References: <200506081905.03373.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <200506082147.14951.aprestn5@telus.net> <200506092042.08810.edulix@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506091948.59787.aprestn5@telus.net> On Thursday June 9 2005 12:42 pm, Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote: > Sorry, I don't think that saying he didn't do his homework is a good answer > at all. It seems to me that the problem is not that he didn't do it, but > rather that Kubuntu didn't detect and configure it properly, but it could > (I belive!), and thus it's a bug - either in kubuntu itself, hotplug, > cdrecord, whatever - and despite that, of course, the easiest solution for > him might be to fix it manually, it's not the user faultt =). > > Greetings, > Edulix. > I have to agree now. It wasn't obvious from his quoted output that his drive is connected neither as an IDE drive nor as a SCSI drive, but rather by a PCMCIA + USB connection. I still think the problem is that the connection isn't configured correctly, and that may well be a matter of Kubuntu not detecting it properly. Al Preston From sarava at verizon.net Fri Jun 10 04:07:15 2005 From: sarava at verizon.net (Sara Vasquez) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:07:15 -0400 Subject: do the nvidia drivers offer support for Nvidia quadro cards Message-ID: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> hey i am wondering if the driver in synaptic ffer suport for nvida quadro card. thansk for your reply From ian at themagictree.co.uk Fri Jun 10 10:24:55 2005 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:24:55 +0100 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A96A77.8070704@themagictree.co.uk> Patrick von Reth wrote: > every time I tried to install kubuntu the system crashed in the same > moment. I tried to install it normally and I installed it to VM Ware. > > there is a screen shot in this mail > I have had the same problem with the "configuring apt" stage - it seems that the installer is unable to connect to the repositories for some reason. However, it DOES time-out (after about 20+ mins iirc for each stage), and after that the installation proceeds normally. I found also that the repositories set up in sources.list ("uk.archive.ubuntu.com") had to be changed to the US servers to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lilo- at gmx.ch Fri Jun 10 12:17:43 2005 From: lilo- at gmx.ch (Raphael Brunner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:17:43 +0200 Subject: how are Ubuntu/Kubuntu goals? In-Reply-To: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> References: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200506101417.44470.lilo-@gmx.ch> Hello Everybody! I switched some weeks before the Hoary-Release was out to Kubuntu. there was every day some updates with apt-get update. And, from the Day on, when the Release Hoary was made, no updates wasn't there. But there are a lot of problems with some programs (e.g. KDE, Kaffein, Kopete, ...). I'm a user, who want a suitable, clean Linux. But Kubuntu hoary had a lot of bugs. Then, I switched to Kubuntu breezy. After a lot of updates (like before the release of hoary) and periodically dependency-problems with some packages... I found for me, it isn't a good idea, to stay at breezy if I want a suitable Linux for a Desktop Workstation. Has anyone a Idea, what I can do and know anyone the idea of Kubuntu? For witch users is Kubuntu? And where is the difference between Debian testing/unstable and Kubuntu hoary/breezy? I read at the Page of ubuntu/kubuntu: "A Linux that just works" - but at me, it's not true (neither hoary nor breezy). Unfortunately! Does anyone feeling the same and has the same experience or does anyone know whats wrong at me? Thanks a lot for answers. Greetings - Raphael From viru at bzimage.us Fri Jun 10 12:39:10 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:39:10 +0200 Subject: how are Ubuntu/Kubuntu goals? In-Reply-To: <200506101417.44470.lilo-@gmx.ch> References: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> <200506101417.44470.lilo-@gmx.ch> Message-ID: <200506101439.10898.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday, 10 of June 2005 14:17, Raphael Brunner wrote: > I switched some weeks before the Hoary-Release was out to Kubuntu. there > was every day some updates with apt-get update. And, from the Day on, when > the Release Hoary was made, no updates wasn't there. But there are a lot of > problems with some programs (e.g. KDE, Kaffein, Kopete, ...). > I'm a user, who want a suitable, clean Linux. But Kubuntu hoary had a lot > of bugs. There were some bugs in KDE 3.4, not in Kubuntu itself. But there's actualy bugfix release of KDE with version number 3.4.1. You can upgrade your Kubuntu Hoary here: http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php And remember, that Hoary is the latest stable branch, while Breezy is actualy unstable. In Octobet Breezy will be freezed, will become stable and there won't be so many updates for next 6 months. From peter.shillan at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 12:44:27 2005 From: peter.shillan at gmail.com (Peter Shillan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:44:27 +0100 Subject: KDE 3.4.1 for Hoary on AMD64 Message-ID: Hi there, Does anyone know when the KDE 3.4.1 made available at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 will become available for AMD 64? I am have an AMD 64 Kubuntu install and I would really like to get all those lovely KDE fixes :-D Many thanks, Peter. From derek at slovin.us Fri Jun 10 12:50:15 2005 From: derek at slovin.us (Derek Slovin) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:50:15 -0700 Subject: how are Ubuntu/Kubuntu goals? In-Reply-To: <200506101439.10898.viru@bzimage.us> References: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> <200506101417.44470.lilo-@gmx.ch> <200506101439.10898.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <1118407819.1527BB65@dh11.dngr.org> Un addition to paul's comments, remember that hoary is frozen. Therefore, the majority of bugs that exist in hoary will not be fixed (because it is frozen, they only fix security bugs, etc) I would not reccomend breezy until it is a little more stable. Hopefully the bugs you are finding are a result of kde and not ubuntu. Good luck! -derek slovin On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:42 am, Pawel Kowalak wrote: > On Friday, 10 of June 2005 14:17, Raphael Brunner wrote: >> I switched some weeks before the Hoary-Release was out to Kubuntu. >> there >> was every day some updates with apt-get update. And, from the Day on, >> when >> the Release Hoary was made, no updates wasn't there. But there are a >> lot of >> problems with some programs (e.g. KDE, Kaffein, Kopete, ...). >> I'm a user, who want a suitable, clean Linux. But Kubuntu hoary had a >> lot >> of bugs. > > There were some bugs in KDE 3.4, not in Kubuntu itself. But there's > actualy > bugfix release of KDE with version number 3.4.1. You can upgrade your > Kubuntu > Hoary here: http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php > > And remember, that Hoary is the latest stable branch, while Breezy is > actualy > unstable. In Octobet Breezy will be freezed, will become stable and > there > won't be so many updates for next 6 months. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users --Derek Slovin From malandante at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 12:52:47 2005 From: malandante at gmail.com (malandante) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:52:47 +0200 Subject: do the nvidia drivers offer support for Nvidia quadro cards In-Reply-To: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> References: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1708ff0e05061005523dcab76d@mail.gmail.com> 2005/6/10, Sara Vasquez : > hey i am wondering if the driver in synaptic ffer suport for nvida quadro > card. thansk for your reply > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > As you can read in ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases. NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID ------------------------------- ------------------------------- RIVA TNT 0x0020 RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028 RIVA TNT2 Ultra 0x0029 Vanta/Vanta LT 0x002C RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro 0x002D Aladdin TNT2 0x00A0 GeForce 256 0x0100 GeForce DDR 0x0101 Quadro 0x0103 GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro 0x0150 GeForce2 Ti 0x0151 GeForce2 Ultra 0x0152 Quadro2 Pro 0x0153 Since ubuntu packages are not still updated to 7664 drivers, the answer is that your card is still supported. As you know, all you have to do is installing nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-whateveryourkernelis, and run the command nvidia-glx enable From senectus at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 12:56:02 2005 From: senectus at gmail.com (Senectus .) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:56:02 +0800 Subject: how are Ubuntu/Kubuntu goals? In-Reply-To: <1118407819.1527BB65@dh11.dngr.org> References: <42A911F3.4060402@verizon.net> <200506101417.44470.lilo-@gmx.ch> <200506101439.10898.viru@bzimage.us> <1118407819.1527BB65@dh11.dngr.org> Message-ID: the following will fix most kubuntu "bugs" and definitely fixed kopete and the crashing konq issues for me. deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main -- Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 Our OS who art in CPU, LINUX be thy name. Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, In kernel as it is in user! http://www.modmeup.net From reb68 at bellsouth.net Fri Jun 10 14:31:55 2005 From: reb68 at bellsouth.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:31:55 -0400 Subject: Modem Message-ID: <200506101031.55588.reb68@bellsouth.net> I am using DSL but need to recognize my dial up modem so I can install called ID. In Suse ,I believe it was, there is a program called Yast that I could configure my modem. In Kubuntu I cannot find my modem. I may not see the forest for the trees but do not see it anywhere. Where do I configure it. It does not show up in devices either. Thanks for any help. Dick Barmann From chris at deadhand.com Fri Jun 10 18:05:56 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:05:56 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: A general question regarding KDE releases In-Reply-To: <200506092210.09961.chris@deadhand.com> References: <20050609171735.GU25888@muse.19inch.net> <200506092210.09961.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200506102005.56401.chris@deadhand.com> Derek send an answer to my comment off-list: Am Freitag 10 Juni 2005 18:09 schrieb Derek Slovin: > This is how ubuntu plans to do all releases. > > Actually, this is how most companies do releases. Microsoft fixes mainly > major bugs in their service packs. the difference is that ubuntu > releases a stable version every 6 months, windows every 6 years. They > don't add many features between releases either. > > OsX has a similar model as ubuntu and microsoft, fix major bugs. I didn't mean to imply, that there should be additional features or a fully supported transition from KDE 3.4.x to 3.5 within one release of kubuntu*, but I had the impression, that a sole focus of bugs that are security related may leave users with an (to them) unusable system at certain points. There are several kinds of bugs that come to my mind, that seem worht fixing and would probably have to be fixed in most commercial systems. Issues like that might be: - kernel not allowing to use a certain feature, like nfs - instant messenger loosing connectivity to one of it's services - crash-issues in certain apps The first would be fixed, no question, but the other two maybe wouldn't when only the 'major or security related' bugs get fixed. Supporting the .x releases of KDE would fix most of those bugs though, I guess. That's the only thing I'm wondering about here. *Although that's maybe what might happen with breezy and I think it's a great way to make sure Kubuntu has the latest KDE. From shannon at fewmets.net Fri Jun 10 22:33:22 2005 From: shannon at fewmets.net (Shannon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:33:22 -0700 Subject: newbie help? Message-ID: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> I didn't see my questions in the archives, but I'm sorry if they've already been answered. 1. I'm having problems installing Mozilla in my new kubuntu machine. I'm using kynaptic, which handles most updates perfectly, but whenever I try and install Mozilla or Firefox, I get a "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s)" error. The repositories I have enabled are: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main 2. I'd like to use an icewm window decoration in KDE, and I have icewm installed, but Kcontrol doesn't give me the option to use it. That is, when I go to Control Center | Appearance & Themes | Window Decorations, there's no IceWM option in the drop-down menu. How can I fix this? Aside from these two irritations, I'm loving my new Kubuntu install. Any help would be really great. thanks, Shannon From carney1979 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 05:40:20 2005 From: carney1979 at gmail.com (David M. Carney) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:40:20 -0400 Subject: newbie help? In-Reply-To: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> Message-ID: <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> On Friday 10 June 2005 18:33, Shannon wrote: > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted > deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main > You need to enable universe, too. David -- Registered Linux User #297958 http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ From bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 11 14:00:09 2005 From: bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk (Bobby Singh) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: ok whats this then????????????? Message-ID: <20050611140009.67202.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, I have been using synaptic so far so good but i get this: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_testing_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_testing_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_testing_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Now when i reload i get this Could not download all repository indexes ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' Now i have enabled the normal repositores in the synaptic when i first have it. Cheers Bob ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From viru at bzimage.us Sat Jun 11 14:59:32 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:59:32 +0200 Subject: ok whats this then????????????? In-Reply-To: <20050611140009.67202.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050611140009.67202.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506111659.32272.viru@bzimage.us> On Saturday, 11 of June 2005 16:00, Bobby Singh wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using synaptic so far so good but i get > this: [...] I'm not sure, but Debian has removed the Non-US repositories. Maybe packages has moved to other repo's, so just remove them from your configuration. Also Testing repositories could be removed, because Testing has became Sarge now. From patrick.vonreth at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 15:43:49 2005 From: patrick.vonreth at gmail.com (Patrick von Reth) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:43:49 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu Message-ID: i have a new pc and get the cd from a friend and on his system it works without problems. I had also tried to install ubuntu but i got the same problem. then i downloaded the 64amd version of kubunto with the same results. I tried the live cd and it works. when i switch between the desktops wis ALT+F2 ther are no errors displayed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christian.mager at bigcyris.com Sat Jun 11 16:14:32 2005 From: christian.mager at bigcyris.com (Chritian Mager) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:14:32 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506111814.32740.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 17:43 schrieb Patrick von Reth: > i have a new pc and get the cd from a friend and on his system it works > without problems. I had also tried to install ubuntu but i got the same > problem. then i downloaded the 64amd version of kubunto with the same > results. I tried the live cd and it works. when i switch between the > desktops wis ALT+F2 ther are no errors displayed. > Hello Patrick, it's very difficult to help you, when you don't tell us your problem. explain what's going wrong at which time. if you get errors displayed, post the most significat ones. chris mager. From carney1979 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 16:16:45 2005 From: carney1979 at gmail.com (David M. Carney) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:16:45 -0400 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506111216.45847.carney1979@gmail.com> On Saturday 11 June 2005 11:43, Patrick von Reth wrote: > i have a new pc and get the cd from a friend and on his system it works > without problems. I had also tried to install ubuntu but i got the same > problem. then i downloaded the 64amd version of kubunto with the same > results. I tried the live cd and it works. when i switch between the > desktops wis ALT+F2 ther are no errors displayed. What brand computer? Desktop? Laptop? What version of Kubuntu (I assume latest)?? What version of Ubuntu (again I assume latest)?? I'm asuming that your computer is an AMD64. Do you get any error messages? ...or does the installer "just freeze"? If so, at what point? We need more info or we can't help. David -- Registered Linux User #297958 http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ From reb68 at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 11 16:26:00 2005 From: reb68 at bellsouth.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:26:00 -0400 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: <200506091524.38509.reb68@bellsouth.net> References: <200506091458.16864.reb68@bellsouth.net> <200506092115.32943.sebas@kde.nl> <200506091524.38509.reb68@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200506111226.00923.reb68@bellsouth.net> On Thursday 09 June 2005 03:24 pm, Richard Barmann wrote: > On Thursday 09 June 2005 03:15 pm, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Thursday 09 June 2005 20:58, Richard Barmann wrote: > > > When installing from Synaptic I get an error window that reads > > > "E: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386: subprocess post-installation script > > > returned error exit status 2" > > > Is this a Kubuntu problem or a Linux problem. Does anyone have any > > > input for me as to the cause or correction? > > > > Try > > > > sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 > > > > That should show a more precise error message, if you can't fix it, post > > the error here. It a problem with the kernel package you're trying to > > install. Actually an "Ubuntu problem", no general Linux problem. > > > > Cheers, > > > > sebas I tried the above and got the following in my Terminal. Is there a clue in here as to how I can correct this error? > The following is the result of entering the above > ----------- > root at adsl-065-005-184-154:/home/richard # sudo apt-get install > linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > 1 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0B of archives. > After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. > Setting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.2) ... > /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device > Failed to create initrd image. > dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 > Errors were encountered while processing: > linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > root at adsl-065-005-184-154:/home/richard # > > > Thank You From patrick.vonreth at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 17:22:42 2005 From: patrick.vonreth at gmail.com (Patrick von Reth) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:22:42 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200506111216.45847.carney1979@gmail.com> References: <200506111216.45847.carney1979@gmail.com> Message-ID: soory i had forgotten to paste the older mail every time I tried to install kubuntu the system crashed in the same moment. > I tried to install it normally and I installed it to VM Ware. > I use a desktop system and tryed to install the latest versions of kubuntu and ubuntu. I get no error messages, the screen just freeze. but i can change between the consoles. On 6/11/05, David M. Carney wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2005 11:43, Patrick von Reth wrote: > > i have a new pc and get the cd from a friend and on his system it works > > without problems. I had also tried to install ubuntu but i got the same > > problem. then i downloaded the 64amd version of kubunto with the same > > results. I tried the live cd and it works. when i switch between the > > desktops with ALT+F2 there are no errors displayed. > > What brand computer? Desktop? Laptop? > > What version of Kubuntu (I assume latest)?? > > What version of Ubuntu (again I assume latest)?? > > I'm asuming that your computer is an AMD64. > > Do you get any error messages? ...or does the installer "just freeze"? If > so, > at what point? > > We need more info or we can't help. > > David > > -- > Registered Linux User #297958 > http://carney1979.blogspot.com/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christian.mager at bigcyris.com Sat Jun 11 22:38:45 2005 From: christian.mager at bigcyris.com (Chritian Mager) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:38:45 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <200506111216.45847.carney1979@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506120038.46425.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 19:22 schrieb Patrick von Reth: > I get no error messages, the screen just freeze. but i can change between > the consoles. so the installation is successful and the system boots up, do i get this right? sounds like there's a problem with your xserver. what grafics card do you use and what driver is listet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? you can find this in section "Device". After fresh installation there should be "vga" normally. greets. From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 12 00:30:45 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:30:45 +0200 Subject: Kaffeine uses 100% CPU after close Message-ID: <200506120230.45177.chris@deadhand.com> The wiki page KubuntuHoaryReleaseKnownProblems states the following: "Kaffiene uses 100% CPU after close (fix uploaded)" But although I have everything apt-get dist-upgrade would get me I still have the issue Know that I know kaffeine will always do this I can kill it manually - but I have a hard time telling other users to do so. Did I miss something I should've updated? Oh, btw. I use the official KDE 3.4.1 packages from the extra repository. If the fix is only in the development branch (breezy), is there another way to reliably fix this on the kubuntu systems I installed? Thanks in advance, Chris From ian at themagictree.co.uk Sun Jun 12 06:05:58 2005 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:05:58 +0100 Subject: Kaffeine uses 100% CPU after close In-Reply-To: <200506120230.45177.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200506120230.45177.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <42ABD0C6.9010000@themagictree.co.uk> Christoph Wiesen wrote: >The wiki page KubuntuHoaryReleaseKnownProblems states the following: > > "Kaffiene uses 100% CPU after close (fix uploaded)" > >But although I have everything apt-get dist-upgrade would get me I still have >the issue > >Know that I know kaffeine will always do this I can kill it manually - but I >have a hard time telling other users to do so. > >Did I miss something I should've updated? Oh, btw. I use the official KDE >3.4.1 packages from the extra repository. > >If the fix is only in the development branch (breezy), is there another way to >reliably fix this on the kubuntu systems I installed? > >Thanks in advance, > >Chris > > If you use the modified packages in this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27670 and install them using "sudo dpkg - i kaffeine_0.6-1_i386.deb" , it resolves the problem. I think it is also available in the "http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" repository. Ian From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 12 09:03:30 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:03:30 +0200 Subject: Kaffeine uses 100% CPU after close In-Reply-To: <42ABD0C6.9010000@themagictree.co.uk> References: <200506120230.45177.chris@deadhand.com> <42ABD0C6.9010000@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <200506121103.30366.chris@deadhand.com> Am Sonntag 12 Juni 2005 08:05 schrieb Ian Rose: > If you use the modified packages in this thread: > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27670 > and install them using "sudo dpkg - i kaffeine_0.6-1_i386.deb" , it > resolves the problem. I think it is also available in the > "http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" repository. > > Ian Thanks for the info. I say in the thread you provided,, that there actually is a Kubuntu repository for non-security updates: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main So basically all seems well. I guess this might be in the default sources.list in the next realease (maybe even the KDE bugfix releases will be in there?) and fix issues like that then. Chris From patrick.vonreth at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 09:59:29 2005 From: patrick.vonreth at gmail.com (Patrick von Reth) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:59:29 +0200 Subject: can't install kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200506120038.46425.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> References: <200506111216.45847.carney1979@gmail.com> <200506120038.46425.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Message-ID: No it freeze by installing, every time the installing process reaches "configure ATP" (screen shot ). On 6/12/05, Chritian Mager wrote: > > Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 19:22 schrieb Patrick von Reth: > > I get no error messages, the screen just freeze. but i can change > between > > the consoles. > > so the installation is successful and the system boots up, do i get this > right? sounds like there's a problem with your xserver. > > what grafics card do you use and what driver is listet in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf? you can find this in section "Device". After fresh > installation there should be "vga" normally. > > greets. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From albert at pensament.net Sun Jun 12 11:48:05 2005 From: albert at pensament.net (Albert) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:48:05 +0200 Subject: how to make my own customized livecd? Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone know of a tutorial or something on how to get the sources for a livecd (in my case a powerpc livecd) and edit it so as to remove lots of apps, add a few of my own, and edit kde configuration files to enable specific networks and desktop behaviour? Thanks. Albert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Albert Cardona Institute of Neuroinformatics Tel : +41 1 635 3052 University/ETH Zurich Fax : +41 1 635 3053 Winterthurerstrasse 190 acardona (at) ini phys ethz ch Zurich 8057, Switzerland www.ini.unizh.ch From john at technolalia.org Sun Jun 12 13:48:30 2005 From: john at technolalia.org (John Levin) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:48:30 +0100 Subject: how to make my own customized livecd? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12 Jun 2005, at 12:48, Albert wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a tutorial or something on how to get the > sources for a livecd (in my case a powerpc livecd) and edit it so > as to remove lots of apps, add a few of my own, and edit kde > configuration files to enable specific networks and desktop behaviour? > > Thanks. > > Albert > See: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo/view? searchterm=customize%20live%20cd There's been some discussion on this - and refering specifically to ppc - on the mailing lists, but a half hour of searching hasn't located it for me. I'm sure there's a few other wiki pages, but search seems to be busted, for me at least. John > From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Sun Jun 12 13:51:52 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:51:52 +0300 Subject: new linux-image: why? Message-ID: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> After doing „apt-get upgrade“ I got a suggestion I should install a an update package named „linux-image-2.6.10-5-386“ I guess that is an updated linux kernel, right? I guess it comes from www.kubuntu.org repository, though i am not sure. Should I try do do that? I mean, updating the kernel? I did that once before, and: 1. it rewrote my grub boot loader ( I have a dual boot, so I had to manually restore some options) 2. my fglrx driver (for ATI video card) stopped working after the upgrade - had to reinstall it. 3. I have raserfs root file system, and the new kernel complained at the start that it cannot find ext3... Apart from that, everything worked fine. Now, why shoud I follow the upgrade? Does it fix some major bug or security hole? Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. So perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 or maybe linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From christian.mager at bigcyris.com Sun Jun 12 15:29:55 2005 From: christian.mager at bigcyris.com (Christian Mager) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:29:55 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Am Sonntag, 12. Juni 2005 15:51 schrieb Donatas G.: > After doing „apt-get upgrade“ I got a suggestion I should install a an update > package named „linux-image-2.6.10-5-386“ > > I guess that is an updated linux kernel, right? I guess it comes from > www.kubuntu.org repository, though i am not sure. > > Should I try do do that? I mean, updating the kernel? > > I did that once before, and: > 1. it rewrote my grub boot loader ( I have a dual boot, so I had to manually > restore some options) > 2. my fglrx driver (for ATI video card) stopped working after the upgrade - > had to reinstall it. > 3. I have raserfs root file system, and the new kernel complained at the start > that it cannot find ext3... > > Apart from that, everything worked fine. > > Now, why shoud I follow the upgrade? Does it fix some major bug or security > hole? > > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. So > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: > > linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 > or maybe > linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? > > Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? hi, perhaps this link can help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40188 From folmert at o2.pl Sun Jun 12 15:33:30 2005 From: folmert at o2.pl (Adam Folmert) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:33:30 +0200 Subject: how to make my own customized livecd? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612173305.0385ecd8@poczta.o2.pl> Hello, Some basic information can be found here: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11664.html http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7551.html although it is more Gnome Ubuntu oriented, as I see it. Regards, Adam Folmert At 13:48 2005-06-12, Albert wrote: >Hi all, > >Does anyone know of a tutorial or something on how to get the sources >for a livecd (in my case a powerpc livecd) and edit it so as to remove >lots of apps, add a few of my own, and edit kde configuration files to >enable specific networks and desktop behaviour? > >Thanks. > >Albert > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- >Albert Cardona >Institute of Neuroinformatics Tel : +41 1 635 3052 >University/ETH Zurich Fax : +41 1 635 3053 >Winterthurerstrasse 190 acardona (at) ini phys ethz ch >Zurich 8057, Switzerland www.ini.unizh.ch > > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From trygvebw at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 15:59:52 2005 From: trygvebw at gmail.com (trygvebw) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:59:52 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Message-ID: 1. It has to. Else it won't be able to tell the bootloader to boot up the new kernel... 2. Of course, since the ATI driver is a kernel module, which is specific to the current kernel. 3. I've noticed that too, but it doesn't matter really... > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. So > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: If you want to change it to anything, change it to linux-image-686 K7s are older AMD processors. On 6/12/05, Christian Mager wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 12. Juni 2005 15:51 schrieb Donatas G.: > > After doing „apt-get upgrade" I got a suggestion I should install a an > update > > package named „linux-image-2.6.10-5-386" > > > > I guess that is an updated linux kernel, right? I guess it comes from > > www.kubuntu.org repository, though i am not > sure. > > > > Should I try do do that? I mean, updating the kernel? > > > > I did that once before, and: > > 1. it rewrote my grub boot loader ( I have a dual boot, so I had to > manually > > restore some options) > > 2. my fglrx driver (for ATI video card) stopped working after the > upgrade - > > had to reinstall it. > > 3. I have raserfs root file system, and the new kernel complained at the > start > > that it cannot find ext3... > > > > Apart from that, everything worked fine. > > > > Now, why shoud I follow the upgrade? Does it fix some major bug or > security > > hole? > > > > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. So > > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: > > > > linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 > > or maybe > > linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? > > > > Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? > > > hi, perhaps this link can help you: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40188 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Sun Jun 12 16:03:54 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:03:54 +0300 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> Message-ID: <200506121903.54650.ziogelis77@takas.lt> 2005 m. Birželio 12 d., Sekmadienis 18:29, Christian Mager rašė: > > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. So > > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: > > > > linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 > > or maybe > > linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? > > > > Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? > > hi, perhaps this link can help you: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40188 OK, got it. In short, it is a security update of Linux kernel. Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my kernel (if I get it right)? Is it worthwhile to change from 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor? -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From trygvebw at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 17:02:38 2005 From: trygvebw at gmail.com (trygvebw) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:02:38 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <200506121903.54650.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> <200506121903.54650.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my kernel (if I get it right)? Is it worthwhile to change from 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor? No, the K7 kernel is for older AMD processors. You should use the 686 kernel. trygvebw On 6/12/05, Donatas G. wrote: > > 2005 m. Birželio 12 d., Sekmadienis 18:29, Christian Mager rašė: > > > > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. > So > > > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: > > > > > > linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 > > > or maybe > > > linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? > > > > > > Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? > > > > hi, perhaps this link can help you: > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40188 > > OK, got it. In short, it is a security update of Linux kernel. > > Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my kernel (if I get > it > right)? Is it worthwhile to change from 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD > Athlon 1800+ XP processor? > > -- > Donatas Glodenis > http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Efwkub at aol.com Sun Jun 12 23:07:12 2005 From: Efwkub at aol.com (Efwkub at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:07:12 EDT Subject: Goodbye Message-ID: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> Dear Linux enthusiasts in general and Kubuntu people in particular, thank you for the assistance I have received on this list. With regret I have decided that I do not have enough time to use Linux. Unfortunately I have had too many problems, bugs, inconsistencies, etc. etc. First with SUSE (as earlier noted I gave up using their support as it was going nowhere, slowly). Now with Kubuntu. The number of problems I have had has been overwhelming, even though I have only started to look at Kubuntu, i.e. there are a great many things I have not looked at or tried yet. If I thus extrapolate the number of problems I would have to expect and the time needed to research then try to implement possible solutions, and the expected rate of failure and success therein, should I try to get a full range of functions to work at all, let alone reliably, I see that a totally unrealistic input would be required on my part, for what would remain an uncertain result. I accept that Linux software works for some people, whether because they are lucky or they are experts, or they pay others who are experts. I have had to accept that unless I somehow achieved "advanced guru" level I would never be able to count on having a system that worked. And that unless I thoroughly checked, tested and modifed any Linux installation I had (on every material change) I would always be worrying about it, never able to rely on it. May I thus respectfully ask that, enthusiastic as you are, you moderate your claims so as to reduce the chances of misleading people. I came to Linux after years of Windows (which, dire as it is, and much as I hate the way MS have treated everyone, looks less bad now). I knew a lot of the words and concepts, and I didn't expect an easy time. I expected to have to read a lot, and I did. I also had the benefit of a working internet connection. Please consider what someone new to computers would do having bought a PC expecting to use Linux, alone in a room, and thus without the ability to access Google, or your helpful forums and lists etc. Just by way of illustration, I am not asking for assistance because I am not going to proceed any further, the problems below happened to me in one relatively short session earlier today. They might get a few of these or others that I have mentioned. Repeat - please don't trouble to advise me on the issues. I am very disappointed because I like the open source approach, I do respect what has been achieved, I can see that Linux is done logically, so that it should be possible to make it work, I wanted to get into Linux. And I have had any amount of hassle with Windows (and e.g. Norton AntiVirus) over the years. So much so that I will return to typewriter and fax rather than go to XP. The 98SE machines I have do act up when pushed but they are a bit overloaded, most of the time they are fast, easy to use, highly productive. And when they fail they can be re-booted and then work again. I therefore wish you all the best but ask that you think more carefully about what you say about Linux. Thanks, Edward ****** Kuser, try to create a new user "mpd". Am told (something like) "cannot create home directory for mpd it is null or invalid" Not sure how something that hasn't been created can be invalid, but try to enter /home/mpd myself, get message "Kuser crashed caused signal 11 SIGSERV" Decide to try to create a folder myself for mpd, using Konsole Open Konsole then, to get power to set permissions: efw at HP3:~$ sudo konsole Password: I get the message: "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-efw" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" " Switch to Kuser and see that it has given mpd the UID of 0, along with root So change this to 1001 (efw – myself – being 1000) Give up on that for now Open KPPP, (as usual) get "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read! Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with appropriate read and write permissions." Open KSysGuard, (as usual) get "Error – KDE System Guard Connection to localhost has been lost." Control Center, System Administration, Login Manager. Click on Administrator Mode Enter password, get "Welcome to the KDE Control Center" a central place..." (Previously I was getting a right pane showing the "System Administration" sub-items.) Leave the PC for about 30 seconds, return to find that Konqueror and OOo's Writer have crashed leaving SIGSERV messages. (Konqueror and Writer are what I would need to use most! Writer often failed, usually quickly, under SUSE. Hardly tried it under Kubuntu) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanderant at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 01:05:30 2005 From: sanderant at gmail.com (Alexander Antoniades) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:05:30 +0000 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <200506121729.55847.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> <200506121903.54650.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: <8bef8e870506121805702b52bb@mail.gmail.com> I'm unclear on this, isn't k7 the 32 bit Athlon family of chips (like his 1800+) and K8 is the AMD 64 family of chips? I was looking for some information on this, but it indeed show that only the very first Athlon is called k7, but the first 64 bit chip is called K8, implying the the previous chips are all one generation. Without getting into some whole source v binary debate, is getting the 686 (which presumably is optimized for a Pentium 2) any better than the plain 386 binary? Thanks for you help, Sander On 6/12/05, trygvebw wrote: > Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my kernel (if I get it > right)? Is it worthwhile to change from 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD > Athlon 1800+ XP processor? > > No, the K7 kernel is for older AMD processors. You should use the 686 > kernel. > > trygvebw > > On 6/12/05, Donatas G. wrote: > > > > 2005 m. Birželio 12 d., Sekmadienis 18:29, Christian Mager rašė: > > > > > > Another question: I have a system with AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor. > > So > > > > perhaps I should change my kernel to another one: > > > > > > > > linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 > > > > or maybe > > > > linux-image-2.6.11-5-k7 ? > > > > > > > > Do I have chances on optimizing and speeding up my system? > > > > > > hi, perhaps this link can help you: > > > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40188 > > > > OK, got it. In short, it is a security update of Linux kernel. > > > > Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my kernel (if I get > > it > > right)? Is it worthwhile to change from 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD > > Athlon 1800+ XP processor? > > > > -- > > Donatas Glodenis > > http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From sanderant at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 01:07:45 2005 From: sanderant at gmail.com (Alexander Antoniades) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:07:45 +0000 Subject: ok whats this then????????????? In-Reply-To: <20050611140009.67202.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050611140009.67202.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8bef8e8705061218072b9de8a5@mail.gmail.com> When I get these types of errors my first step is to manually browse to the entry in question. That way you can see if still exists or has changed in some way. Hope that helps, Sander From wheelscribe at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 02:01:08 2005 From: wheelscribe at gmail.com (Ben Miller) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:01:08 -0500 Subject: missing Konqurer Message-ID: <200506122101.08686.wheelscribe@gmail.com> I've just installed Kubuntu (from Ubuntu) and Konqurer seems to be missing. I've attempted to install it via Kynaptic, but I'm told that it's missing a dependency. Any clues? Thanks, Ben From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Mon Jun 13 07:11:43 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:11:43 +0300 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <8bef8e870506121805702b52bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <8bef8e870506121805702b52bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506131011.43861.ziogelis77@takas.lt> 2005 m. Birželio 13 d., Pirmadienis 04:05, Alexander Antoniades rašė: > I'm unclear on this, isn't k7 the 32 bit Athlon family of chips (like > his 1800+) and K8 is the AMD 64 family of chips? > I was looking for some information on this, but it indeed show that > only the very first Athlon is called k7, but the first 64 bit chip is > called K8, implying the the previous chips are all one generation. > Without getting into some whole source v binary debate, is getting the > 686 (which presumably is optimized for a Pentium 2) any better than > the plain 386 binary? > > Thanks for you help, > > Sander Well, good question... I updated to 686 binary yesterday... Everything works fine (had to reinstall the fglrx binary and also install linux-restricted... package for it to work), and I would love to think - also faster :) Though it is just a feel. I don't know about the processors, though. KDE in Kcontrol tells me I have a 686 processor, though I don't know if I should believe that. -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From ziogelis77 at takas.lt Mon Jun 13 07:18:40 2005 From: ziogelis77 at takas.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:18:40 +0300 Subject: Goodbye In-Reply-To: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> References: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> Message-ID: <200506131018.40472.ziogelis77@takas.lt> 2005 m. Birželio 13 d., Pirmadienis 02:07, Efwkub at aol.com rašė: > With regret I have decided that I do not have enough time to use Linux. > Unfortunately I have had too many problems, bugs, inconsistencies, etc. > etc. Interesting... Kubuntu is the first linux system (after Mandrake and Debian Sarge) that ever seems to be working close to perfect for me. On the other hand, if I calculated the time investment, it might have been cheeper for me to run MS Windows. Of course, I could have saved on time if I were to follow an old saying: „don't fix what is not broken“. However, now I just have my experience. Anyway, gool luck to you with Windows. And, if you ever find a friend with Linux experience, - ask him if he could help you to give Linux another try. Unless you have a completely unsupported hardware, you might succeed with some help. -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From amigrave at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 07:38:43 2005 From: amigrave at gmail.com (Fabien Meghazi) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:38:43 +0200 Subject: Goodbye In-Reply-To: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> References: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> Message-ID: <7772a2590506130038198ed90b@mail.gmail.com> > Open KSysGuard, (as usual) get > "Error – KDE System Guard Connection to localhost has been lost." I got the same problem on my laptop. It seems to be a problem related to ACPI that make ksysguardd segfault at startup on some laptops. If acpi is disabled at boot time in the kernel parameters ( acpi=off ) KSysGuard will work. From albert at pensament.net Mon Jun 13 07:56:25 2005 From: albert at pensament.net (Albert) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:56:25 +0200 Subject: how to make my own customized livecd? Message-ID: Thank you for these very useufl links! Albert Albert Cardona Institute of Neuroinformatics Tel : +41 1 635 3052 University/ETH Zurich Fax : +41 1 635 3053 Winterthurerstrasse 190 acardona (at) ini phys ethz ch Zurich 8057, Switzerland www.ini.unizh.ch From ubuntuser at pmbservices.com Mon Jun 13 10:56:52 2005 From: ubuntuser at pmbservices.com (Paul M. Bucalo) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:56:52 -0400 Subject: Kexi --> relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0 Message-ID: <200506130656.52825.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> I'm running Kubuntu 5.04 with KOffice installed. When I try to run Kexi from the desktop, it stalls and dumps back to the Desktop once I try to create a new database from the dialog box. From a term window, this is what I get: pmbuc at pmbent1:~$ kexi kexi: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZN13KDockSplitter24setSeparatorPosInPercentEi Any help on this? Pointers to solutions? Thanks in advance, Paul From jr at jriddell.org Mon Jun 13 11:36:59 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:36:59 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kexi --> relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0 In-Reply-To: <200506130656.52825.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> References: <200506130656.52825.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> Message-ID: <20050613113659.GB25888@muse.19inch.net> On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:52AM -0400, Paul M. Bucalo wrote: > I'm running Kubuntu 5.04 with KOffice installed. When I try to run > Kexi from the desktop, it stalls and dumps back to the Desktop once I > try to create a new database from the dialog box. From a term window, > this is what I get: > > pmbuc at pmbent1:~$ kexi > kexi: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0: undefined symbol: > _ZN13KDockSplitter24setSeparatorPosInPercentEi Which version of KOffice, which version of Kexi and where were they installed from? Jonathan Riddell From trygvebw at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 12:14:08 2005 From: trygvebw at gmail.com (trygvebw) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:14:08 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <200506131011.43861.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <200506121651.52513.ziogelis77@takas.lt> <8bef8e870506121805702b52bb@mail.gmail.com> <200506131011.43861.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: Standard "Athlon" processors are as far as i know K7s (but K7s are 686s too ;) but the "Athlon XP" processors are standard Pentium III-compitable processors: 686s. trygvebw On 6/13/05, Donatas G. wrote: > > 2005 m. Birželio 13 d., Pirmadienis 04:05, Alexander Antoniades rašė: > > I'm unclear on this, isn't k7 the 32 bit Athlon family of chips (like > > his 1800+) and K8 is the AMD 64 family of chips? > > I was looking for some information on this, but it indeed show that > > only the very first Athlon is called k7, but the first 64 bit chip is > > called K8, implying the the previous chips are all one generation. > > Without getting into some whole source v binary debate, is getting the > > 686 (which presumably is optimized for a Pentium 2) any better than > > the plain 386 binary? > > > > Thanks for you help, > > > > Sander > > Well, good question... > > I updated to 686 binary yesterday... Everything works fine (had to > reinstall > the fglrx binary and also install linux-restricted... package for it to > work), and I would love to think - also faster :) Though it is just a > feel. > > I don't know about the processors, though. KDE in Kcontrol tells me I have > a > 686 processor, though I don't know if I should believe that. > > -- > Donatas Glodenis > http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevek at derbyworks.com Mon Jun 13 13:00:18 2005 From: stevek at derbyworks.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:00:18 -0500 Subject: new linux-image: why? Message-ID: > Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my > kernel (if I get it right)? Is it worthwhile to change from > 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor? Very much so... From stevek at derbyworks.com Mon Jun 13 13:01:20 2005 From: stevek at derbyworks.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:01:20 -0500 Subject: new linux-image: why? Message-ID: > Now, what about the next question - about optimizing my > kernel (if I get it right)? Is it worthwhile to change from > 386 to k7 kernel, if I have AMD Athlon 1800+ XP processor? > I'm typing before I think (I haven't downed my first cup of coffee this morning!) Do what the other gent said- 686 kernel... Not k7. From stevek at derbyworks.com Mon Jun 13 13:06:37 2005 From: stevek at derbyworks.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:06:37 -0500 Subject: Goodbye Message-ID: > With regret I have decided that I do not have enough time to > use Linux. Unfortunately I have had too many problems, bugs, > inconsistencies, etc. etc. First with SUSE (as earlier noted > I gave up using their support as it was going nowhere, > slowly). Now with Kubuntu. Well, you've gotten your feet wet at least... Don't give up just on one bad experience (God, if I'd done that, Mandrake would've had me running scared from Linux forever!) Every time I find a distro that gives me problems, if I liked it in the littlest way, I try it again the next time they upgrade it. Often, the "showstopper" bugs have been squashed. Steve From chandra at ee.uwa.edu.au Fri Jun 10 01:37:56 2005 From: chandra at ee.uwa.edu.au (R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:37:56 +0800 Subject: [Fwd: [Bug 107108] New: New user is added at UID 500 instead of at 1001] Message-ID: <42A8EEF4.8010708@ee.uwa.edu.au> Dear Folks, The KDE developers have asked me to refer this to you. See KDE Bug 107108. For clarification, the default first user created by default during installation of Kubuntu was 1000. The second user, created with the Kuser interface had UID 500; whereas with the adduser command, the second user UID was 1001. I think the latter is correct. The file /etc/adduser.conf is also attached for completeness. The home page creation error was that the home page could not be created, even though I was using sudo with Kuser. 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From: R Chandrasekhar Subject: [Bug 107108] New: New user is added at UID 500 instead of at 1001 Date: 9 Jun 2005 14:26:33 -0000 Size: 3586 URL: From fransex at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 16:38:55 2005 From: fransex at gmail.com (fransex gmail) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:55 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <626fc97e0506130938424c3ea8@mail.gmail.com> I don't think so, I think the instruction set in Athlon XP is very much closer to Athlon K7's than to Pentium Pro's. K7 - AMD ATHLON Family (not K6, not amd64-k8) 686 - INTEL Pentium Pro and higher (PII, PIII, PIV...) I guess more than one subscriber to this list has heard of MMX, MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt, PowerNOW!, etc... which are features a little more advanced than Pentium Pro's MMX (it's less than Pentium II)! -K7 have MMX, MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt and PowerNOW! -586 have MMX -686 have MMX and MMX2 And your Athlon XP has MMX, MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt and PowerNOW! So I think the right choice here is K7! So, I don't know why you all advice that wrong! Here you have 2 links with a little of info http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4452.html [spanish] http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/4003 [spanish] http://www.mundogeek.net/archivos/2005/02/22/guia-de-configuracion-de-ubuntu/ Please correct me in the case I'm wrong, but I think it's a bad practise trying to help without knowing the right answer. I hope this helps. Excuse me for my typos. From sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 17:55:36 2005 From: sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com (Stephen Garton) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:55:36 +0100 Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet Card Message-ID: <9474ced905061310556feb88b7@mail.gmail.com> Hi There, I've recently got my hands on a Sony Vaio Laptop. It's quite an old one, so there is no integrated Ethernet device. It did come with a Corega FEther II PCC-TXD card. I saw this card working in W98. I have installed Hoary from downloaded/burnt iso, and everything works apart from the network connection, which I need to access the internet. If I run "cardctl info" in konsole, it is listed, but when I look in infocenter>PCMCIA, it says the Card in slot 1 is not supported. So, do I need to aquire a new PCMCIA Ethernet card? If so, which ones will work under Kubuntu? If not, how can I get it working? If anyone needs any more info, get back to me and I will post ASAP Thanks in Advance -- Steve Garton http://sheepeatingtaz.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntuser at pmbservices.com Mon Jun 13 18:08:27 2005 From: ubuntuser at pmbservices.com (Paul M. Bucalo) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:08:27 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kexi --> relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0 In-Reply-To: <20050613113659.GB25888@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506130656.52825.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> <20050613113659.GB25888@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506131408.27718.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> On Monday 13 June 2005 07:36 am, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:52AM -0400, Paul M. Bucalo wrote: > > I'm running Kubuntu 5.04 with KOffice installed. When I try to > > run Kexi from the desktop, it stalls and dumps back to the > > Desktop once I try to create a new database from the dialog box. > > From a term window, this is what I get: > > > > pmbuc at pmbent1:~$ kexi > > kexi: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkeximain.so.0: undefined > > symbol: _ZN13KDockSplitter24setSeparatorPosInPercentEi > > Which version of KOffice 1.3.5-2ubuntu1 > , which version of Kexi That which comes with the above: 1.3.91-0ubuntu0.2 > and where were they > installed from? hoary universe Paul From trygvebw at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 18:20:53 2005 From: trygvebw at gmail.com (trygvebw) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:20:53 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <626fc97e0506130938424c3ea8@mail.gmail.com> References: <626fc97e0506130938424c3ea8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Why is it then that i feel that my computer is faster when i use the 686 kernel? And why is it then that i recieve higher HD benchmark results when i use the 686 one? trygvebw On 6/13/05, fransex gmail wrote: > > I don't think so, I think the instruction set in Athlon XP is very > much closer to Athlon K7's than to Pentium Pro's. > > K7 - AMD ATHLON Family (not K6, not amd64-k8) > 686 - INTEL Pentium Pro and higher (PII, PIII, PIV...) > > I guess more than one subscriber to this list has heard of MMX, > MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt, PowerNOW!, etc... which are features a little > more advanced than Pentium Pro's MMX (it's less than Pentium II)! > > -K7 have MMX, MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt and PowerNOW! > -586 have MMX > -686 have MMX and MMX2 > > And your Athlon XP has MMX, MMXExt, 3DNow, 3DNowExt and PowerNOW! So I > think the right choice here is K7! > > So, I don't know why you all advice that wrong! > > Here you have 2 links with a little of info > > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4452.html > [spanish] http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/4003 > [spanish] > http://www.mundogeek.net/archivos/2005/02/22/guia-de-configuracion-de-ubuntu/ > > Please correct me in the case I'm wrong, but I think it's a bad > practise trying to help without knowing the right answer. > > I hope this helps. Excuse me for my typos. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506131500.49073.shannon@fewmets.net> On Friday 10 June 2005 10:40 pm, David M. Carney wrote: > You need to enable universe, too. All right, I did that, but I still get the same error message. I get it when trying to install Gimp as well. Any other ideas? --Shannon From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Jun 13 22:13:03 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:13:03 +0200 Subject: [hoary] prelinking Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone I've a question about prelinking. I've followed this instructions: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink 1) I got error Messages during prelinking like these: Prelinking /usr/lib/libksba.so.8.5.1 /usr/sbin/prelink.bin: Warning: /usr/lib/libksba.so.8 has undefined non-weak symbols What does it mean? 2) When do I have to run prelink again? There is daily cronjob. Do I have to run prelink manually when I install / remove Programms? What are other side efects of prelinking, apart from faster load times? 3) Howto undo prelinking? TIA Thilo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCrgTrzeyTbiZA74IRAoMgAKCwKAroY1uPBS4VshkqwZM1v0LCBACdEpXn ht/NPszofuIZOzOLMBk3OFU= =J0rf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Jun 13 22:38:34 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:38:34 +0200 Subject: newbie help? In-Reply-To: <200506131500.49073.shannon@fewmets.net> References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> <200506131500.49073.shannon@fewmets.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Shannon schrieb am 14.06.2005 00:00: > On Friday 10 June 2005 10:40 pm, David M. Carney wrote: > > >>You need to enable universe, too. > > > All right, I did that, but I still get the same error message. I get it when > trying to install Gimp as well. > > Any other ideas? > > --Shannon > hi I've tried it out(with your sources.list) and I get: $ sudo aptitude -v install mozilla-browser The following packages have unmet dependencies: mozilla-browser: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1 is installed. this seems to be a bug to me Maybe fillin a new one ( couldn't find an existing one) apart from that, you should add: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe also to your sources.list bye Thilo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCrgrjzeyTbiZA74IRAs2fAJ99APfyqbnP+ONT3Z0ZYsXS4EQfMgCdEX1Q 3kUuPeCGYIX3WlNjQuzrPec= =3I9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Jun 13 22:55:35 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:55:35 +0200 Subject: newbie help? In-Reply-To: References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> <200506131500.49073.shannon@fewmets.net> Message-ID: Thilo Six schrieb am 14.06.2005 00:38: > > I've tried it out(with your sources.list) and I get: > > $ sudo aptitude -v install mozilla-browser > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > mozilla-browser: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2) but > 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1 is installed. > > this seems to be a bug to me > Maybe fillin a new one ( couldn't find an existing one) I've tried it out again, with my (german) server. here it works. deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe $ sudo aptitude -v install mozilla-browser Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: mozilla-browser [2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1] The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed: mozilla-psm [2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1] (R: evolution, R: mozilla-browser) The following packages are SUGGESTED but will NOT be installed: xprt [6.8.2-10] (S: mozilla-browser) 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 9610kB of archives. After unpacking 29.0MB will be used. Writing extended state information... Done Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main mozilla-browser 2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1 [9610kB] 2% [1 mozilla-browser 247680/9610kB 2%] you probably should change the server and fill in a bug about it. > > bye Thilo From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Jun 13 23:30:49 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:30:49 +0200 Subject: newbie help? In-Reply-To: References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> <200506110140.20843.carney1979@gmail.com> <200506131500.49073.shannon@fewmets.net> Message-ID: Thilo Six schrieb am 14.06.2005 00:38: 2nd answer to myself. sorry :) > apart from that, you should add: > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted > universe This fixed it. It's probably missing dependensy cause of security updates. Forget the rubbish in my last mail. > also to your sources.list > > > bye Thilo From james at grayonline.id.au Tue Jun 14 00:40:10 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:40:10 +1000 Subject: Goodbye In-Reply-To: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> References: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> Message-ID: <200506141040.14396.james@grayonline.id.au> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:07 am, Efwkub at aol.com wrote: > With regret I have decided that I do not have enough time to use Linux. > Unfortunately I have had too many problems, bugs, inconsistencies, etc. > etc. First with SUSE (as earlier noted I gave up using their support as it > was going nowhere, slowly). Now with Kubuntu. Pity :( But the revolution Linux (and free/open-source software in general) is "supposed" to be bringing about has little to do with unseating the entrenched vendors (MS et al) but more about providing users and consumers the ability to CHOOSE. You are exercising your right to choose - so good for you! :) > The number of problems I have had has been overwhelming, even though I have > only started to look at Kubuntu, i.e. there are a great many things I have > not looked at or tried yet. I'll try to shed some light on the problems you mention below. The rest of your post I've snipped - it's been covered by others. > ****** > Kuser, try to create a new user "mpd". Am told (something like) "cannot > create home directory for mpd it is null or invalid" > Not sure how something that hasn't been created can be invalid, but try to > enter > /home/mpd myself, get message "Kuser crashed caused signal 11 SIGSERV" Hmm - I've never used Kuser to manage users as I do it from the command line. But that doesn't mean you should expect errors like this from Kuser! FWIW, I can't recreate your error. I have to manually blank the dialogue box "Home directory" to get any error at all, which tells me the user must have a home directory before I can create them. You are running Kuser as root right? ie, when kdesu asked for the root password you entered the correct password etc? > Decide to try to create a folder myself for mpd, using Konsole > Open Konsole then, to get power to set permissions: > > efw at HP3:~$ sudo konsole > Password: > > I get the message: > "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-efw" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" " Ah - a trap for young players. Try "kdesu konsole" instead of "sudo konsole". > Open KPPP, (as usual) get > "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read! > Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with > appropriate read and write permissions." sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf sudo chmod 0664 /etc/resolv.conf Does that work? > Open KSysGuard, (as usual) get > "Error – KDE System Guard Connection to localhost has been lost." Haven't seen this one before but is smells like ACPI to me... sorry, can't help further :( > Control Center, System Administration, Login Manager. Click on > Administrator Mode > Enter password, get "Welcome to the KDE Control Center" a central place..." > (Previously I was getting a right pane showing the "System Administration" > sub-items.) Previously? Previous to doing what? Did you do an upgrade or something that caused this to stop working? What change happened prior to seeing this behaviour? So many questions, but you allude to a change in behaviour of a program but don't mention if you did anything that might have led to it. > Leave the PC for about 30 seconds, return to find that Konqueror and OOo's > Writer have crashed leaving SIGSERV messages. Ouch. Have you tested your RAM? I've seen these sorts of errors when RAM was flakey or being run at the wrong speed (PC2700 RAM being driven to PC3200 speed...not good). I know you've said this is all supported hardware, but is it suffering some physical problems like bus speed mis-matches, overheating, power fluctuations etc? Any of those can lead to (seemingly) random lockups and application crashes. The fact you're getting these problems consistenly on different distributions screams hardware fault to me (I've been wrong before too!)...just a thought. Of course this is the place where you come back with "it works fine in Windows" - in which case, use windows :) Like I said at the beginning - exercise your right to choose; I chose Linux, this choice may not suit your needs so you choose differently. That's fine by me. Kind Regards, James -- Amnesia used to be my favorite word, but then I forgot it. From fransex at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 03:51:41 2005 From: fransex at gmail.com (fransex gmail) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:51:41 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: References: <626fc97e0506130938424c3ea8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <626fc97e050613205163dcbc6@mail.gmail.com> Hi trygvebw, > Why is it then that i feel that my computer is faster when i use the 686 kernel? Well, if it is just a feeling, I'd try to benchmark 'pure' cpu usage. It is also possible that K7 image is less optimized due to different compiler (gcc) version or different conpilation flags. Here you are some info from thje packages' maintainers: apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 Description: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on AMD K7. This package contains the Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on AMD Duron/Athlon... apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 Description: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. This package contains the Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV... And 2 more links: [portuguese] http://www.guiadohardware.net/kurumin/dicas/003/ [german] http://www.debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=273720 > And why is it then that i recieve higher HD benchmark results when i use the 686 one? There can be several reasons: - Wrong module loading at startup (check /etc/modules): amd74xx --> AMD and NVIDIA chipsets via82cxx --> VIA chipsets - DMA turned on/off for drive /dev/hdX: Try 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX' and if that works, change in hdparm.conf /dev/hdx { dma = on } - Bad options in default .config, (e.g. preemtible kernel set to off...) You can find your .config in: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-1-k7/.config /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-1-686/.config If you fancy to have a perfectly optimized kernel for your system, try to make your own kernel, In Debian it is an easy process (with kernel-package) that leads you learning a lot: [english] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto [spanish] http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/431 [spanish] http://www.mononeurona.org/index.php?idp=210 Excuse me for my typos. Hope this helps! From fransex at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 04:29:05 2005 From: fransex at gmail.com (fransex gmail) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:29:05 +0200 Subject: new linux-image: why? In-Reply-To: <626fc97e050613205163dcbc6@mail.gmail.com> References: <626fc97e0506130938424c3ea8@mail.gmail.com> <626fc97e050613205163dcbc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <626fc97e05061321295cc727e2@mail.gmail.com> I forgot to mention the command you can use to know your exact processor capabilities: cat /proc/cpuinfo And a little correction: > apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 > apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.10-1-k7 apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.10-1-686 As I'm using breezy, my kernel versions are slightly different ;) NOTE: 2.6.12 isn't out yet, but ubuntu guys try to stabilize 2.6.11. Odd kernel versions were supposed to be in development, I don't know is this is still so with the new kernel versioning policy. Please, don't try to use breezy if you don't want to run into troubles. Although mine works perfectly and solved all hoary issues :) Excuse me for my typos. Hope this helps! From mcd at gol.com Tue Jun 14 12:11:04 2005 From: mcd at gol.com (David Mackie) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:11:04 -0400 Subject: Goodbye In-Reply-To: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> References: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> Message-ID: <200506140811.05646.mcd@gol.com> Hi- I'm sad to read Edward's farewell to Linux. I too migrated from Windows. Using Linux, I have had to learn more about computing in general, and about paying attention to small details. I've had to accept how little I know, how much more there is to learn. But .... First, that's called growth - and growth is a good thing. Second, that growth leads to control. Linux hasn't been all "plain sailing" - but that's between the software, my peculiar hardware, and my own desire to experiment. If I'd stuck to word-processing and email, I might never have encountered any problems- but the problems I have had made me think, learn, and grow. Edward, if you're still reading . . . . you do not need to be an "advanced guru", just experiment a little. There are many Linux distributions, tailored for different users on different machines. If Kubuntu doesn't work, Mandrake or Fedora probably will. First, ask some advice about your needs and your equipment. What the heck - people are helpful, and it's free ! McDave On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:07 pm, Efwkub at aol.com wrote: > Dear Linux enthusiasts in general and Kubuntu people in particular, thank > you for the assistance I have received on this list. > > With regret I have decided that I do not have enough time to use Linux. > Unfortunately I have had too many problems, bugs, inconsistencies, etc. > etc. First with SUSE (as earlier noted I gave up using their support as it > was going nowhere, slowly). Now with Kubuntu. > > The number of problems I have had has been overwhelming, even though I have > only started to look at Kubuntu, i.e. there are a great many things I have > not looked at or tried yet. > > If I thus extrapolate the number of problems I would have to expect and the > time needed to research then try to implement possible solutions, and the > expected rate of failure and success therein, should I try to get a full > range of functions to work at all, let alone reliably, I see that a totally > unrealistic input would be required on my part, for what would remain an > uncertain result. > > > I accept that Linux software works for some people, whether because they > are lucky or they are experts, or they pay others who are experts. I have > had to accept that unless I somehow achieved "advanced guru" level I would > never be able to count on having a system that worked. And that unless I > thoroughly checked, tested and modifed any Linux installation I had (on > every material change) I would always be worrying about it, never able to > rely on it. > > May I thus respectfully ask that, enthusiastic as you are, you moderate > your claims so as to reduce the chances of misleading people. I came to > Linux after years of Windows (which, dire as it is, and much as I hate the > way MS have treated everyone, looks less bad now). I knew a lot of the > words and concepts, and I didn't expect an easy time. I expected to have to > read a lot, and I did. > > I also had the benefit of a working internet connection. Please consider > what someone new to computers would do having bought a PC expecting to use > Linux, alone in a room, and thus without the ability to access Google, or > your helpful forums and lists etc. > > Just by way of illustration, I am not asking for assistance because I am > not going to proceed any further, the problems below happened to me in one > relatively short session earlier today. They might get a few of these or > others that I have mentioned. Repeat - please don't trouble to advise me on > the issues. > > I am very disappointed because I like the open source approach, I do > respect what has been achieved, I can see that Linux is done logically, so > that it should be possible to make it work, I wanted to get into Linux. And > I have had any amount of hassle with Windows (and e.g. Norton AntiVirus) > over the years. So much so that I will return to typewriter and fax rather > than go to XP. The 98SE machines I have do act up when pushed but they are > a bit overloaded, most of the time they are fast, easy to use, highly > productive. And when they fail they can be re-booted and then work again. > > I therefore wish you all the best but ask that you think more carefully > about what you say about Linux. > > Thanks, Edward > > ****** > Kuser, try to create a new user "mpd". Am told (something like) "cannot > create home directory for mpd it is null or invalid" > Not sure how something that hasn't been created can be invalid, but try to > enter > /home/mpd myself, get message "Kuser crashed caused signal 11 SIGSERV" > > Decide to try to create a folder myself for mpd, using Konsole > Open Konsole then, to get power to set permissions: > > efw at HP3:~$ sudo konsole > Password: > > I get the message: > "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-efw" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" " > > Switch to Kuser and see that it has given mpd the UID of 0, along with root > So change this to 1001 (efw – myself – being 1000) > > Give up on that for now > > Open KPPP, (as usual) get > "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read! > Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with > appropriate read and write permissions." > > Open KSysGuard, (as usual) get > "Error – KDE System Guard Connection to localhost has been lost." > > Control Center, System Administration, Login Manager. Click on > Administrator Mode > Enter password, get "Welcome to the KDE Control Center" a central place..." > (Previously I was getting a right pane showing the "System Administration" > sub-items.) > > Leave the PC for about 30 seconds, return to find that Konqueror and OOo's > Writer have crashed leaving SIGSERV messages. > (Konqueror and Writer are what I would need to use most! Writer often > failed, usually quickly, under SUSE. Hardly tried it under Kubuntu) From lefty78312 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 14 13:01:39 2005 From: lefty78312 at yahoo.com (Phil Hall) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Burning a live CD Message-ID: <20050614130139.82027.qmail@web53608.mail.yahoo.com> How do I burn a live CD of Kubuntu? I have tried every method I can think of (burning as an iso; burning as a bootable data CD) using both Nero and Roxio, and all I get are coasters. I have no difficulty burning a live Knoppix CD, and I have also successfully burned Mepis, Cool Linux, Demo Linux and a few others, but I can't burn a Kubuntu live CD that will boot. What is the trick? Phil Hall __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From opi at cyb3r.org Tue Jun 14 13:10:45 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:10:45 +0200 Subject: Burning a live CD In-Reply-To: <20050614130139.82027.qmail@web53608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050614130139.82027.qmail@web53608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506141510.50272.opi@cyb3r.org> On Tuesday 14 of June 2005 15:01, Phil Hall wrote: > What is the trick? Sounds like a broken .iso file. Try to check out md5sum first and see if it match against orginal md5sum. -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com Monkey see, monkey do. Rather be dead than cool. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Efwkub at aol.com Tue Jun 14 15:25:06 2005 From: Efwkub at aol.com (Efwkub at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:25:06 EDT Subject: Goodbye Message-ID: James, Thank you for your kind comments. I don’t want to go far into the actual issues because I have to move on. Briefly, Kuser - I entered the right password when asked, no problems at that stage Ksysguard - please see amigrave’s response. I also had this problem with SUSE, my laptop is up to date and is supposed to do ACPI properly, and to work with SUSE Login Manager - I only set this out briefly. The position is that I couldn’t get into it, and experienced what I described. On (all - with Kubuntu) previous attempts to get into it I was barred in a different way (getting symptoms similar to those described by a subscriber called Stroller). No upgrade or change save shutting down then later restarting the PC. Hardware. Yes one wonders. But no direct symptoms. No problems with live CD’ s. Not likely to be RAM because plenty of problems while with the original (HP) 512 MB, then plenty with the (high quality) 2GB upgrade. Did test it, thoroughly. Power - either on the laptop battery, or via a UPS. Overheating, can’t be sure but think I would have noticed. Did have a thermometer on the fan outlet at one stage out of interest, this was fine. Mismatched buses - HP notebook, no mods save RAM, haven’t seen anything on Web re such problems with it. Thanks anyway, And re choosing, yes glad that people have choices especially after many many years of MS. But hope you will also bear in mind my point about not misleading people as to the nature of the choices. ****** McDave I agree about growth, being enterprising, in general. I try to be positive. But I am having to try to grow in a lot of other areas, and sometimes one has to decide how best to allocate limited resources. If I merely wanted a PC for personal use I could be relaxed about the risk or actuality of hours or days without it while I wrestled with problems. But we use them in our small business, and others depend on what I provide. We need something that works at least the great majority of the time, and which I can fix when it doesn’t, and make suggestions about over the phone. If I can’t be sure of being able to do this I can’t use a system. People are helpful, but for all that one is often on one’s own with a problem. In any event it is only reasonable to do a fair amount of searching, reading and experimenting before asking. I tried to minimise problems by going to SUSE (not that expensive, but not free, BTW) but as mentioned I gave up on their support. Thank you also for your suggestions about Mandrake or Fedora, I do note your use of "probably". All the best to you both, and I am going to unsubscribe now, lots to do! Regards, Edward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sebas at kde.nl Tue Jun 14 15:43:37 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?utf-8?q?K=C3=BCgler?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:43:37 +0200 Subject: Goodbye In-Reply-To: <200506140811.05646.mcd@gol.com> References: <1d5.3de6c3e2.2fde1a20@aol.com> <200506140811.05646.mcd@gol.com> Message-ID: <200506141743.46500.sebas@kde.nl> On Tuesday 14 June 2005 14:11, David Mackie wrote: > I'm sad to read Edward's farewell to Linux. I too migrated from > Windows. Using Linux, I have had to learn more about computing in > general, and about paying attention to small details. I've had to > accept how little I know, how much more there is to learn. But .... Probably unrelated, but what comes to my mind is that a lot of users coming from Windows have to be re-educated with respect to reading error messages. I see lots of people who seem to have developed a reflex to click away error messages as fast as possible. While that might be a good strategy on Windows, these people should consider actually reading errormessages since they in most cases tell what's wrong. That seems to be quite bad about Windows - useless errors. So my advice of the day for newly converted users: Read the error messages rather than trying to get rid of them as fast as possible. They might aswell tell what's wrong and what you can do about it. Cheers, sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. 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Any help would be apreciated. Some system details: System is uptodate. Relevant sources.lists records: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main System is: Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" (as per /etc/issue) Some KDE packages form dpkg -l that might help: ii kde-core 42ubuntu1 The K Desktop Environment (Core) ii kdebase 3.4.1-0ubuntu0 base components from the official KDE releas ii kdelibs 3.4.1-0ubuntu0 core libraries from the official KDE release ii kdelibs4 3.4.1-0ubuntu0 core libraries for all KDE applications Cheers, Serg From support at bigriverinfotech.com Tue Jun 14 20:21:27 2005 From: support at bigriverinfotech.com (Raymond) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:21:27 +0000 Subject: Deleting installed .debs Message-ID: <200506142021.27187.support@bigriverinfotech.com> It appears that all added / upgraded packages are located in /var/cache/apt/archives Can't locate a a package source removal option in kynaptic. Any problems with deleting the all the source .deb packages there? Raymond From radix at creativa.cl Tue Jun 14 21:47:53 2005 From: radix at creativa.cl (Matias Fernandez) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:47:53 -0400 Subject: Deleting installed .debs In-Reply-To: <200506142021.27187.support@bigriverinfotech.com> References: <200506142021.27187.support@bigriverinfotech.com> Message-ID: <42AF5089.40605@creativa.cl> I don't know how to do that with kynaptic, but in a shell, you can do: sudo apt-get clean Regards. Raymond wrote: >It appears that all added / upgraded packages are located >in /var/cache/apt/archives > >Can't locate a a package source removal option in kynaptic. > >Any problems with deleting the all the source .deb packages there? > >Raymond > > > From christian.mager at bigcyris.com Tue Jun 14 21:50:03 2005 From: christian.mager at bigcyris.com (Christian Mager) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:50:03 +0200 Subject: Deleting installed .debs In-Reply-To: <200506142021.27187.support@bigriverinfotech.com> References: <200506142021.27187.support@bigriverinfotech.com> Message-ID: <200506142350.04101.christian.mager@bigcyris.com> hi, i think you should read this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-clean From wheelscribe at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 01:11:11 2005 From: wheelscribe at gmail.com (Ben Miller) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:11:11 -0500 Subject: cd player not recognizing CD Message-ID: <200506142011.12092.wheelscribe@gmail.com> When I inert an audio CD into my DVD drive, Kubuntu recognizes it as a CD and places an icon on the desktop. However, neither KsCD nor CD Player can access the disk unless I reboot my computer. Any clues as to why this is happening? Thanks, Ben From j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jun 15 11:09:45 2005 From: j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:09:45 +0100 Subject: cd player not recognizing CD References: <200506142011.12092.wheelscribe@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ben Miller wrote: > When I inert an audio CD into my DVD drive, Kubuntu recognizes it as a CD > and places an icon on the desktop. However, neither KsCD nor CD Player can > access the disk unless I reboot my computer. Any clues as to why this is > happening? > Apologies if it's a dumb question but, if you eject the cd using Kscd does it work. I ask because in the default set-up on my system Kubuntu has the cdrom link pointing to my cd-rw, not the cdrom. I had to set Kscd to point to cdrom1. > Thanks, > Ben Jim From shannon at fewmets.net Wed Jun 15 16:39:12 2005 From: shannon at fewmets.net (Shannon) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:39:12 -0700 Subject: newbie help? In-Reply-To: References: <200506101533.22220.shannon@fewmets.net> Message-ID: <200506150939.13173.shannon@fewmets.net> On Monday 13 June 2005 4:30 pm, Thilo Six wrote: > Thilo Six schrieb am 14.06.2005 00:38: > > > > 2nd answer to myself. sorry :) > > > apart from that, you should add: > > > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted > > universe > > This fixed it. It's probably missing dependensy cause of security updates. That did fix it! Thank you very much! --Shannon From pjb at operamail.com Wed Jun 15 19:21:50 2005 From: pjb at operamail.com (Peter Barnes) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:21:50 +0000 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions Message-ID: <20050615192150.E9C7723E19@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From malandante at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 20:15:04 2005 From: malandante at gmail.com (malandante) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:15:04 +0200 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions In-Reply-To: <20050615192150.E9C7723E19@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050615192150.E9C7723E19@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1708ff0e0506151315e025e0e@mail.gmail.com> 2005/6/15, Peter Barnes : > After being away from Kubuntu for a few weeks I came back and saw the advice: > KDE 3.4.1 packages are available for hoary from this deb source (edit /etc/apt/sources.list) > deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > As someone who knows little about Linux, let alone Kubuntu, can you tell me exactly what I should do? I know how to add a line to the sources.list file but do I add only this line, and do I delete anything already there? > > And then having added the line, what comes next to get KDE 3.4.1? Is it simply apt-get upgrade (update?), or do I need a specific file name? > > (Related to this, I looked at the excellent KUDOS Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ and saw the recommended general changes to the sources.list file - should I be doing this first?) > > Sorry for so many questions at once! > Peter > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade will do the work Why apt-get update? because you've got to refresh the package cache to let apt-get know what is new in order to upgrade/dist-upgrade it. As people usually tell to newbies, do a man apt-get and you will find the answer to it recomendation: always man whatever before asking, not to avoid bothering people (you will see that there's always someone who doesn't like newbies questions), but because it's the best way to learn. Greetings malandante From T.Six at gmx.de Wed Jun 15 23:17:28 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:17:28 +0200 Subject: [hoary] prelinking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone > > I've a question about prelinking. > > I've followed this instructions: > http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink Just in case your are interested in prelink. Think twice before you use it. I had some really bad problems with my box after prelinking the whole system. It randomly froze complete. I couldn't even enter console. I had to hard reset my box several times. :( > > 3) Howto undo prelinking? even "prelink -ua" (unlink) did not help. Today I was busy to recover my backups. bye Thilo From senectus at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 00:10:05 2005 From: senectus at gmail.com (Senectus .) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:05 +0800 Subject: [hoary] prelinking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/16/05, Thilo Six wrote: > > Hello everyone > > > > > I've a question about prelinking. > > > > I've followed this instructions: > > http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink > > Just in case your are interested in prelink. > Think twice before you use it. > > I had some really bad problems with my box after prelinking > the whole system. > It randomly froze complete. I couldn't even enter console. > I had to hard reset my box several times. :( > > > > > 3) Howto undo prelinking? > > even "prelink -ua" (unlink) did not help. > Today I was busy to recover my backups. Prelinking is also very bad for wine and cedega (if your into the gaming scene) -- Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 Our OS who art in CPU, LINUX be thy name. Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, In kernel as it is in user! http://www.modmeup.net From pjb at operamail.com Thu Jun 16 18:58:53 2005 From: pjb at operamail.com (Peter Barnes) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:58:53 +0000 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions Message-ID: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: malandante To: "Peter Barnes" , kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:15:04 +0200 > > 2005/6/15, Peter Barnes : > > After being away from Kubuntu for a few weeks I came back and saw the advice: > > KDE 3.4.1 packages are available for hoary from this deb source > > (edit /etc/apt/sources.list) > > deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main > > > > As someone who knows little about Linux, let alone Kubuntu, can > > you tell me exactly what I should do? I know how to add a line to > > the sources.list file but do I add only this line, and do I > > delete anything already there? > > > > And then having added the line, what comes next to get KDE 3.4.1? > > Is it simply apt-get upgrade (update?), or do I need a specific > > file name? > > > > (Related to this, I looked at the excellent KUDOS Unofficial > > Kubuntu FAQ and saw the recommended general changes to the > > sources.list file - should I be doing this first?) > > > > Sorry for so many questions at once! > > Peter > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade > > will do the work > > Why apt-get update? because you've got to refresh the package cache to > let apt-get know what is new in order to upgrade/dist-upgrade it. > > As people usually tell to newbies, do a > > man apt-get > > and you will find the answer to it > > > recomendation: always > > man whatever > > before asking, not to avoid bothering people (you will see that > there's always someone who doesn't like newbies questions), but > because it's the best way to learn. > > Greetings > > malandante Thanks for the (part) answer. I agree with your comments about learning, and know how to access the man pages on a Linux PC - but where do I find them on the Web when working from a Windows PC? Like many other people, I am having to learn about Linux while running a business and working in Windows. I often have no access to my Linux PC but still need to learn about Linux. Peter -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Thu Jun 16 19:30:59 2005 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:30:59 +0100 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions In-Reply-To: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200506162031.00114.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> On Thursday 16 June 2005 19:58, Peter Barnes wrote: > I agree with your comments about learning, and know how to > access the man pages on a Linux PC - but where do I find > them on the Web when working from a Windows PC? http://man.linuxquestions.org/ Regards, Mark -- http://wastedtimes.net From malandante at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 19:31:23 2005 From: malandante at gmail.com (malandante) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:31:23 +0200 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions In-Reply-To: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1708ff0e050616123135752cdd@mail.gmail.com> > Thanks for the (part) answer. > I agree with your comments about learning, and know how to > access the man pages on a Linux PC - but where do I find > them on the Web when working from a Windows PC? Like many > other people, I am having to learn about Linux while > running a business and working in Windows. I often have no > access to my Linux PC but still need to learn about Linux. > > Peter > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com > Powered by Outblaze > > I realized later that I hadn't answered all the questions. You don't have to delete anything in sources.list, just adding a new source with newer packages makes apt override the old ones. And when you command apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade, apt looks for what's upgradeable and upgrades it all. Since what you have added in sources.list is a kde only repository, you don't have to worry about other things getting upgraded unless you had not upgraded your system previously. Man pages online can be found in several sites which you can easily find googling linux man pages online. Consider that being apt-get a debian specific tool, you may not find its man page in every man pages online site you look for. From james at grayonline.id.au Thu Jun 16 21:38:33 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:38:33 +1000 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions In-Reply-To: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050616185854.3994A203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200506170738.42764.james@grayonline.id.au> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 04:58 am, Peter Barnes wrote: > Thanks for the (part) answer. > I agree with your comments about learning, and know how to > access the man pages on a Linux PC - but where do I find > them on the Web when working from a Windows PC? Like many > other people, I am having to learn about Linux while > running a business and working in Windows. I often have no > access to my Linux PC but still need to learn about Linux. I've always found google handy for man pages. Just google "man apt-get" or maybe "man apt-get +debian". The beauty of using google is that you can search for man pages in different languages too (if that's important). The draw-back is that you need to make sure you're reading the man page applicable to you version of Unix/Linux. BSD is not Solaris is not Linux is not HP-UX is not.... you get the idea? Searching for sommethhing debian-specific liike "apt" should be p James -- you know its really sad when the internic itself cant configure DNS servers right it just doesnt get any more pathetic than that -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've since done a little digging in the KDE Control Center (why isn't it called Kontrol Center?), and learned that I was configured to look at /dev/audiocd for my cd drive, rather than /dev/hdb. I've since changed that in the control center, but the KScd still isn't happy. == Ben From j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Jun 17 08:24:52 2005 From: j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:24:52 +0100 Subject: cd player not recognizing CD References: <200506142011.12092.wheelscribe@gmail.com> <200506161919.40471.wheelscribe@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ben Miller wrote: > Not a dumb question at all. In fact, doesn't eject the CD. I've since done > a little digging in the KDE Control Center (why isn't it called Kontrol > Center?), and learned that I was configured to look at /dev/audiocd for my > cd drive, rather than /dev/hdb. I've since changed that in the control > center, but the KScd still isn't happy. > Check the setting in Kscd - I had to point mine to /dev/cdrom1 which is /dev/hdd, not /dev/cdrom which for some reason is linked to my cdrw. > == Ben Jim From maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it Fri Jun 17 08:39:14 2005 From: maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it (maurizio bonavita) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: hardware questions Message-ID: <20050617083915.17037.qmail@web25505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all, I have been using kubuntu for a while and I like the distro but recently I have encountered two problems: - how to make an optical usb mouse work together with the synaptic touchpad - I have plugged my bluetooth dongle but nothing happens I mean I tried running as root haciscan then hciconfig hci0 up but I get the following message: "can't get info device" tried to stop and restart hotplug as suggested by a friend of mine, rebooted the system with the dongle inserted but no joy. I hope you can help me with these two issues. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards. Maurizio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From longoria at cs.utah.edu Tue Jun 14 18:03:30 2005 From: longoria at cs.utah.edu (Travis P Longoria) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Enterprise Ed. Message-ID: I have a very simple question. I appologize in advanced if it seems a waste of time, but I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. I've heard about a free Enterprise Ed. for Ubuntu/Kubuntu; however, I don't know where I can download it. Thanks for your time! -Travis From jr at jriddell.org Fri Jun 17 09:45:30 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:45:30 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Enterprise Ed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050617094530.GD10250@muse.19inch.net> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:03:30PM -0600, Travis P Longoria wrote: > I have a very simple question. I appologize in advanced if it seems a > waste of time, but I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. I've heard > about a free Enterprise Ed. for Ubuntu/Kubuntu; however, I don't know > where I can download it. There's currently no such thing. A future version may be marked as "enterprise" meaning supported for 3 years instead of 18 months but no decision has been made yet. Jonathan Riddell From wheelscribe at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 10:04:11 2005 From: wheelscribe at gmail.com (Ben Miller) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:04:11 -0500 Subject: cd player not recognizing CD In-Reply-To: References: <200506142011.12092.wheelscribe@gmail.com> <200506161919.40471.wheelscribe@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506170504.12135.wheelscribe@gmail.com> On Friday 17 June 2005 3:24 am, Jim MacLeod wrote: > Check the setting in Kscd - I had to point mine to /dev/cdrom1 which > is /dev/hdd, not /dev/cdrom which for some reason is linked to my cdrw. > > > == Ben That did it! Thanks - I hadn't seen that option setting before. == Ben From stevek at derbyworks.com Fri Jun 17 13:24:57 2005 From: stevek at derbyworks.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:24:57 -0500 Subject: Enterprise Ed. Message-ID: > > I have a very simple question. I appologize in advanced if > it seems a waste of time, but I can't seem to find an answer > anywhere. I've heard about a free Enterprise Ed. for > Ubuntu/Kubuntu; however, I don't know where I can download it. >From everything I've ever heard or read, it's basically just platform-dependent releases (i386, x64, PPC). From sebas at kde.nl Fri Jun 17 14:11:31 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:11:31 +0200 Subject: hardware questions In-Reply-To: <20050617083915.17037.qmail@web25505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050617083915.17037.qmail@web25505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506171611.32572.sebas@kde.nl> Hi Maurizio, On Friday 17 June 2005 10:39, maurizio bonavita wrote: > - how to make an optical usb mouse work together with > the synaptic touchpad You'll have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You need three InputDevices, one for the Keyboard, obviously, one for the Touchpad and one for the USBMouse and the ServerLayout section pointing to them. Here's an example from my xorg.conf: sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf = *snip* ============================================================= Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Usbmouse" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "synaptics" Identifier "Touchpad" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "LeftEdge" "1900" Option "RightEdge" "5400" Option "TopEdge" "1900" Option "BottomEdge" "4000" Option "FingerLow" "25" Option "FingerHigh" "30" Option "MaxTapTime" "180" Option "MaxTapMove" "220" Option "VertScrollDelta" "100" Option "MinSpeed" "0.02" Option "MaxSpeed" "0.18" Option "AccelFactor" "0.0010" Option "SHMConfig" "on" EndSection [...] Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Usbmouse" InputDevice "Touchpad" "CorePointer" EndSection = *snip* ============================================================= Important bits are: - The touchpad having the Corepointer, because it's always available. - The USB not having the Corepointer, so your X will start without mouse attached. - The identifier sections from ServerLayout Matching the Inputdevice Identifiers. > - I have plugged my bluetooth dongle but nothing > happens I mean I tried running as root haciscan then > hciconfig hci0 up but I get the following message: > "can't get info device" tried to stop and restart > hotplug as suggested by a friend of mine, rebooted the > system with the dongle inserted but no joy. Don't know, sorry. Maybe you have to load a driver manually? Are you sure Linux kernel supports your device? Is the bluetooth module loaded? (modprobe bluetooth) > Thanks in advance for your help. sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Death solves all problems: no man, no problem. - Joseph Stalin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I often have no > > access to my Linux PC but still need to learn about Linux. > > > > Peter > > > I realized later that I hadn't answered all the questions. You don't > have to delete anything in sources.list, just adding a new source with > newer packages makes apt override the old ones. And when you command > apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade, apt looks for what's upgradeable and > upgrades it all. Since what you have added in sources.list is a kde > only repository, you don't have to worry about other things getting > upgraded unless you had not upgraded your system previously. > > Man pages online can be found in several sites which you can easily > find googling linux man pages online. Consider that being apt-get a > debian specific tool, you may not find its man page in every man pages > online site you look for. I copied and pasted the line deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main into the etc/apt/sources.list file at the end. Then did apt-get update which ended with: Fetched 123kB in 2s (50.0kB/s) Failed to fetch http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found Reading package lists... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. The did apt-get upgrade and went through getting packafges and ended with: Fetched 109MB in 30m27s (59.6kB/s) but then got lots of the following: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.kde.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Extracting templates from packages: 2%W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.kde.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) etc etc..... Then a lot of "preparing" and "unpacking" and ending with: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2_all.deb W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.kde.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Failed to fetch http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found Reading package lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.kde.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.kde.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I presume this is trying to tell me I'm doing something wrong and it has failed to instal KDE 3.4.1? Peter -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com From malandante at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 23:33:18 2005 From: malandante at gmail.com (malandante) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:33:18 +0200 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions In-Reply-To: <20050617200108.7AD3223D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050617200108.7AD3223D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1708ff0e05061716333c93ded@mail.gmail.com> The problem must be that for any reason apt has not been able to download the packages list from kde.org. I'm using kubuntu since hoary was released (my former linux was Debian) and have since then always got trouble with apt-get update. For me, the first time I run apt-get update, it throws the "couldn't stat source package list..." error. I say the first time, because the second time all goes right, so I always write it twice: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get update Let me know if that solves it. Otherwise, the problem should be in the kde.org rep. I don't really know if the repository works or not because I'm using the amd64 arch distro and there are no debs for amd64 in there. From edcogburn at hotpop.com Sat Jun 18 13:38:15 2005 From: edcogburn at hotpop.com (Ed Cogburn) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:38:15 -0400 Subject: [hoary] prelinking References: Message-ID: Senectus . wrote: > On 6/16/05, Thilo Six wrote: >> >> Hello everyone >> >> > >> > I've a question about prelinking. >> > >> > I've followed this instructions: >> > http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink >> >> Just in case your are interested in prelink. >> Think twice before you use it. >> >> I had some really bad problems with my box after prelinking >> the whole system. >> It randomly froze complete. I couldn't even enter console. >> I had to hard reset my box several times. :( >> >> > >> > 3) Howto undo prelinking? >> >> even "prelink -ua" (unlink) did not help. >> Today I was busy to recover my backups. > Prelinking is also very bad for wine and cedega (if your into the gaming > scene) Well, prelink works for some people extremely well. I've been using it for about a year now, have a cron job that does it automatically every 3 days. If some apps have a problem with it, you can always put them on prelink's black list. From pjb at operamail.com Sat Jun 18 10:06:41 2005 From: pjb at operamail.com (Peter Barnes) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:06:41 +0000 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - one problem solved, others begin Message-ID: <20050618100641.586A4203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: malandante To: "Peter Barnes" , kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - a few questions Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:33:18 +0200 > > The problem must be that for any reason apt has not been able to > download the packages list from kde.org. > I'm using kubuntu since hoary was released (my former linux was > Debian) and have since then always got trouble with apt-get update. > For me, the first time I run apt-get update, it throws the "couldn't > stat source package list..." error. I say the first time, because the > second time all goes right, so I always write it twice: > > sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get update > > Let me know if that solves it. Otherwise, the problem should be in the > kde.org rep. > > I don't really know if the repository works or not because I'm using > the amd64 arch distro and there are no debs for amd64 in there. I tried sudo apt-get update several times and it still would not find the KDE 341 to update when I had deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main in etc/apt/sources.list Then I found a different URL on Ubuntuforums: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main I replaced the previous line with this one in the source.list. This seemed to work and after rebooting the PC the "About KDE" now says KDE 3.4.1. That's the good news. But I notice that the problem with Admin in Control Center not working still exists (should it be corrected in KDE 3.4.1?). And when I tried to do kdesu kwrite or kdesu kate nothing happens now. Looks like a case of "frying pan into the fire"! Peter -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com From pjb at operamail.com Sun Jun 19 09:08:53 2005 From: pjb at operamail.com (Peter Barnes) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:08:53 +0000 Subject: More Kubuntu/KDE 3.4.1 problems Message-ID: <20050619090853.DB3E82B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From martinjh_linux at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 19 14:18:43 2005 From: martinjh_linux at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:18:43 +0100 Subject: KDE won't install Message-ID: When I try installing KDE I get the following: martin at Computer:~$ sudo aptitude install kde Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed E: Unable to resolve some dependencies! Some packages had unmet dependencies. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not installable It does it with both apt-get and aptitude. Here is my sources.list # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)]/ hoary main restricted deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted # deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports-staging main universe multiverse restricted # deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras-staging main universe multiverse restricted deb http://server/repo/ packages/ deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu/ hoary-updates main From serg.belokamen at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 15:25:14 2005 From: serg.belokamen at gmail.com (Serg Belokamen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:25:14 +1000 Subject: KDE won't install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1119194714.16501.3.camel@showof> Try the following: sudo apt-get --fix-missing upgrade Serg On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 15:18 +0100, Martin Hooper wrote: > When I try installing KDE I get the following: > > martin at Computer:~$ sudo aptitude install kde > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading extended state information > Initializing package states... Done > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed > E: Unable to resolve some dependencies! > Some packages had unmet dependencies. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not installable > > It does it with both apt-get and aptitude. > > Here is my sources.list > > # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)]/ > hoary main restricted > > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted > deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted > > ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the > ## distribution. > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted > deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security > ## team. > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe > deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe > > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse > deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted > > # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe > # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe > > deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe > multiverse restricted > deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe > multiverse restricted > # deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports-staging main > universe multiverse restricted > # deb http://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras-staging main > universe multiverse restricted > deb http://server/repo/ packages/ > deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu/ hoary-updates main > > From ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk Sun Jun 19 20:33:47 2005 From: ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk (Ben Hayes) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:33:47 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu questions Message-ID: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello To start off, this is my first post to the list so hello to everyone out. I've mainly used Red Hat for many years prior to moving over to Slackware about a year ago. The main reason for going over to Slackware was to get a better understanding of Linux itself (instead of learning just a Distro). Now, I've come across Kubuntu (Ubuntu) and like the look and feel of it (mainly the hotplug system and the updated KDE and X.org system). Since playing around with Kubuntu, I could never see myself moving away from a Debian based OS again! I love the power to apt-get. I've installed Kubuntu perfectly on my system and updated the system (apt-get dist-upgrade). I've also installed the Ubuntu-desktop as well. I've always used my email on Windows but now I'm in a situation where I want to move from my Windows environment to Kubuntu. So, here's my problems: 1) My windows partition isn't mounted by default. Is there a way in which I can auto mount it (say via the fstab file) whereby ALL users have read access to it? (It's NTFS formatted so it will have to be read-only). When I try and mount it, only root has access to it and my account cannot access it. 2) I want to use Kontact as my PIM. Currently, I use Thunderbird on Windows. But for Linux, I would prefer the Kontact system. Can Kontact import Thunderbird emails and contact? I've seen the import option in Kontact but was unsure if there were any issues on importing. 3) By default, the root account is denied access to log onto the computer. How do I change this so root can log onto the computer? I've already enabled the root account and given it a password. 4) SOUND! :( Currently, I have a Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit 5.1/6.1/7.1 pci card. Does anyone have this type of card and have they also got it to work on Kubuntu (well, Linux period). While I am sure that in time, the Alsa Project Team will get this working, it would be nice to have some sound on my system. (I guess this serves me right for not fully researching this prior to buying the card.) 5) F-Spot. Is there a compiled Kubuntu/Debian release of F-spot yet? If so, where can I get this from? Thanks to anyone out there who can help me on these. Ben -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCtdaqYQ3cRajkBLQRAsriAJ0Vwb3jYfw0I+Y+DEmjjI41jrWTyACfbjw9 965VDSgpjyOqaGPCS6vfNpY= =klOB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk Sun Jun 19 21:18:26 2005 From: ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk (Ben Hayes) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:18:26 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu questions In-Reply-To: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> References: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <42B5E122.1090906@bjconsultancy.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben Hayes wrote: > I've installed Kubuntu perfectly on my system and updated the system > (apt-get dist-upgrade). I've also installed the Ubuntu-desktop as well. > I've always used my email on Windows but now I'm in a situation where I > want to move from my Windows environment to Kubuntu. So, here's my > problems: > > 2) I want to use Kontact as my PIM. Currently, I use Thunderbird on > Windows. But for Linux, I would prefer the Kontact system. Can Kontact > import Thunderbird emails and contact? I've seen the import option in > Kontact but was unsure if there were any issues on importing. Does anyone know of any software that allows you to migrate from windows to linux i.e. copy your documents, emails, pictures, music, etc, etc and then move them to linux? I seem to recall there was such a program that existed but cannot remember the name of it. Ben -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCteEiYQ3cRajkBLQRArerAJ9Bipr8q22gxwTVHjByQuQ3C+M9SACffr1v VwLwKwPoRP6wMIXwF+e307k= =8zNG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ubuntuser at pmbservices.com Sun Jun 19 21:38:49 2005 From: ubuntuser at pmbservices.com (Paul M. Bucalo) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:38:49 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu questions In-Reply-To: <42B5E122.1090906@bjconsultancy.co.uk> References: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> <42B5E122.1090906@bjconsultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <200506191738.50229.ubuntuser@pmbservices.com> On Sunday 19 June 2005 05:18 pm, Ben Hayes wrote: > Hello > > Ben Hayes wrote: > > I've installed Kubuntu perfectly on my system and updated the > > system (apt-get dist-upgrade). I've also installed the > > Ubuntu-desktop as well. I've always used my email on Windows but > > now I'm in a situation where I want to move from my Windows > > environment to Kubuntu. So, here's my problems: > > > > > 2) I want to use Kontact as my PIM. Currently, I use > > Thunderbird on Windows. But for Linux, I would prefer the > > Kontact system. Can Kontact import Thunderbird emails and > > contact? I've seen the import option in Kontact but was unsure > > if there were any issues on importing. > > Does anyone know of any software that allows you to migrate from > windows to linux i.e. copy your documents, emails, pictures, music, > etc, etc and then move them to linux? I seem to recall there was > such a program that existed but cannot remember the name of it. If your emails (in Windows) are on the same computer as you are running Kubuntu, you should be able to import directly into Kontact. I believe there is a Thunderbird import filter. However, if you are trying to import them from another PC, you may only be able to import each individual MBOX from Thunderbird by using the MBOX filter. I've never tried to do this from one PC to another. You'll have to try and see. Addresses and calendar information is most likely unobtainable if not on the same PC, and to what extent they are is unknown by me. Once again, try and see what happens. HTH, Paul From james at grayonline.id.au Mon Jun 20 00:10:57 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:10:57 +1000 Subject: Kubuntu questions In-Reply-To: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> References: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <200506201011.05640.james@grayonline.id.au> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:33 am, Ben Hayes wrote: ** SNIPPED ** > 1) My windows partition isn't mounted by default. Is there a way in > which I can auto mount it (say via the fstab file) whereby ALL users > have read access to it? (It's NTFS formatted so it will have to be > read-only). When I try and mount it, only root has access to it and my > account cannot access it. Simple answer: Add "umask=0" to the options in fstab. "Better" answer: Add a "gid=XXX" where XXX is the group ID for a group that can access the NTFS partition. This way, to give a user access to that partition, you simply need to add them to the group. man mount. > 2) I want to use Kontact as my PIM. Currently, I use Thunderbird on > Windows. But for Linux, I would prefer the Kontact system. Can Kontact > import Thunderbird emails and contact? I've seen the import option in > Kontact but was unsure if there were any issues on importing. In Kontact, "Tools -> Import Messages..." and follow the prompts. I've never tried this as I've been a Kmail die-hard for years, but from reports I've seen, it works well. Yes - there is a "Thunderbird" import filter :) > 3) By default, the root account is denied access to log onto the > computer. How do I change this so root can log onto the computer? I've > already enabled the root account and given it a password. Don't do that. There's been many discussions on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu user lists about why this is a "Bad Idea"(tm). Just use "sudo". If you want a root shell, "sudo bash" voila! > 4) SOUND! :( Currently, I have a Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit > 5.1/6.1/7.1 pci card. Does anyone have this type of card and have they > also got it to work on Kubuntu (well, Linux period). While I am sure > that in time, the Alsa Project Team will get this working, it would be > nice to have some sound on my system. (I guess this serves me right for > not fully researching this prior to buying the card.) I've got a SB Live! Value (5.1) which is an older incarnation of your card IIRC. I believe they both use the "emu10k1" module which is part of OSS. sudo modprobe emu10k1 should do the trick. If it does, add "emu10k1" to /etc/modules > 5) F-Spot. Is there a compiled Kubuntu/Debian release of F-spot yet? > If so, where can I get this from? No idea. But what about this? >apt-cache search f-spot f-spot - personal photo management application Look about right?? > Thanks to anyone out there who can help me on these. No problem! Welcome to [K]Ubuntu! :) HTH, James -- Sanity and insanity overlap a fine grey line. From support at bigriverinfotech.com Mon Jun 20 02:54:28 2005 From: support at bigriverinfotech.com (Raymond) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:54:28 +0000 Subject: USB Flash Drive Reconnect Message-ID: <200506200254.28869.support@bigriverinfotech.com> I'm experiencing some problems when hotplugging a usb flash drive for a second time. Kubuntu does not recognize the usb device has been reconnected. Have had similar type problems with the centrino wifi (not recognized when connections drops and then attempting another); resolved by reloading kernel module. What kernel module(s) would I reload to for usb hotplug to accomplish the same, if applicable. Raymond From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Jun 20 04:37:14 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:37:14 +0200 Subject: [hoary] prelinking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed Cogburn schrieb am 18.06.2005 15:38: > > Well, prelink works for some people extremely well. I've been using it for > about a year now, have a cron job that does it automatically every 3 days. Well that's weird. What I am doing wrong?? Is it some kind of hardware related problem then?? > If some apps have a problem with it, you can always put them on > prelink's black list. Well as it seems all apps (especial all X-apps) had problems with it. hmm Anyway I wont try angain. My system is probably not the fastest, but at least it works. :) bye Thilo From mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es Mon Jun 20 06:11:36 2005 From: mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miquel_L=F3riz_Toro?=) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:11:36 +0200 Subject: about Kcontrol problems Message-ID: <8D9AB608-4EA6-4CF2-9619-8C7A3E60C91B@comfia.ccoo.es> Hi, I am new to the list and new to Ubutu (I used Suse for a short time and shifted and I have found ubuntu realiable, and very stable i a Samsung laptop (well, just a little problem with battery management). I am not very experienced with Linux but I typed from a terminal window "sudo kcontrol" and everything worked fine. It's a little bit annoying but it works for me. Miguel From ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk Mon Jun 20 06:18:14 2005 From: ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk (Ben Hayes) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:18:14 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu questions In-Reply-To: <200506201011.05640.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <42B5D6AB.6030901@bjconsultancy.co.uk> <200506201011.05640.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <42B65FA6.6030002@bjconsultancy.co.uk> James James Gray wrote: > > Simple answer: > Add "umask=0" to the options in fstab. > > "Better" answer: > Add a "gid=XXX" where XXX is the group ID for a group that can access the NTFS > partition. This way, to give a user access to that partition, you simply > need to add them to the group. > Thanks for this. I'll give it a try a bit later on. > > Don't do that. There's been many discussions on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu > user lists about why this is a "Bad Idea"(tm). Just use "sudo". If you want > a root shell, "sudo bash" voila! While I agree with keeping the root account disabled, I ran into problems when I installed Kubuntu on my system. Everytime I went to use the sudo / su command, it kept giving me access denied issues. When I enabled the root account, it worked flawlessly. I will look into this a bit further when I get the time. > > I've got a SB Live! Value (5.1) which is an older incarnation of your card > IIRC. I believe they both use the "emu10k1" module which is part of OSS. > sudo modprobe emu10k1 > > should do the trick. If it does, add "emu10k1" to /etc/modules > Yes, you are right in it using the emu10k1 driver. However, sound is hit and miss with this card. I've got the older SB Live! card in my daughters computer running linux and this works great. My card however is the issue. I wish I had of bought the Audigy card instead at the time. Hind sight is wonderful isn't it? > >>apt-cache search f-spot > > f-spot - personal photo management application > > Look about right?? I'll remember the apt-cache command. I'm still coming to grips with apt as my background is rpm and swaret. Ben From peter.shillan at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:03:32 2005 From: peter.shillan at gmail.com (Peter Shillan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:03:32 +0100 Subject: Getting KDE 3.4.1 - one problem solved, others begin In-Reply-To: <20050618100641.586A4203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050618100641.586A4203FC@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Sorry to be a pain about this but I asked before and didn't get an answer... does anyone know when the Kubuntu team will be providing KDE 3.4.1 binaries for the AMD 64 platform? Please? Cheers, Peter. From udyoga at westnet.com.au Mon Jun 20 08:16:01 2005 From: udyoga at westnet.com.au (R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:16:01 +0800 Subject: Aliasing rm to rm -i for sudo Message-ID: <42B67B41.6090701@westnet.com.au> Dear Folks, I have aliases for rm to be rm -i in the .bashrc files for an ordinary user as well as for root so: alias rm='rm --interactive' When I do rm as an ordinary user, I am asked to confirm deletion. Likeweise, after sudo -s -H, when I do rm I am asked to confirm deletion. However, if I do sudo rm deletion proceeds without interactive confirmation. How may I alias rm to rm -i for sudo? Thank you. --Chandra 20 Jun 2005 ------------------ Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Adjunct Senior Lecturer M018, Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems (CIIPS) School of Electrical, Electronic and Computer Engineering The University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley, WA 6009, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-6488-1905 Fax: +61-(8)-6488-1168 email: chandra at ee.uwa.edu.au CRICOS Provider Code: 00126G ------------------ From ansla80 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 09:48:39 2005 From: ansla80 at yahoo.com (Andrei Slavoiu) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Aliasing rm to rm -i for sudo In-Reply-To: <42B67B41.6090701@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20050620094840.30919.qmail@web50008.mail.yahoo.com> --- "R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar" wrote: > > How may I alias rm to rm -i for sudo? > How about making srm (or something similar) an alias for 'sudo rm -i'? That way you would just have to type 'srm' instead of 'sudo rm'. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From edcogburn at hotpop.com Tue Jun 21 15:28:15 2005 From: edcogburn at hotpop.com (Ed Cogburn) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:28:15 -0400 Subject: [hoary] prelinking References: Message-ID: Thilo Six wrote: > Ed Cogburn schrieb am 18.06.2005 15:38: > > > >> >> Well, prelink works for some people extremely well. I've been using it >> for about a year now, have a cron job that does it automatically every 3 >> days. > > Well that's weird. What I am doing wrong?? IIRC, your original post showed a warning message about an unresolved symbol. I get those from some libs too. It isn't your fault, nor is it prelink, the problem is that library or whatever wasn't built completely correctly (but still built well enough that it works). Its just a minor, sometimes cosmetic, problem (if apps that use that library never use that unresolved symbol then nothing ever breaks). Generally, simply ignore all warnings from prelink, only errors really matter to you (a user). > Anyway I wont try angain. My system is probably not the fastest, but at > least it works. :) Well, if anyone uses a lot of C++ apps, especially anyone using KDE, I would still recommend prelink, because even on a fast machine, prelinking all of KDE makes a *huge* difference in KDE's startup time. prelink has less of an impact with plain C apps, or apps that link to only a couple of libs. From chris at deadhand.com Tue Jun 21 19:05:44 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:05:44 +0200 Subject: KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available Message-ID: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> Hello everybody, as some might have noticed KOffice 1.4 has been released today. Especially nice to see was the list of available binary packages: Mandriva Linux 10.2 Kubuntu RedHat 9, Red Hat Enterprise 3 and Red Hat Enterprise 4 Fedora Core 3, Fedora Core 4 That's right, our beloved Kubuntu is right there. Providing KOffice packages at the time of release. Just saw that kubuntu.org has the news up - but maybe some people on this list would like to know without checking the website. [1] KOffice announcement: http://www.koffice.org/announcements/announce-1.4.php [2] Kubuntu Packages: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice14 hoary-updates main [3] Kubuntu.org news: http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php A big thanks to the Kubuntu developers, it's really appreciated! Kind regards, Chris From jr at jriddell.org Tue Jun 21 19:34:33 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:34:33 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php We also have an installable Live CD listed at the URL above. The question is whether KOffice 1.4 is good enough for breezy. Some parts will probably get in such as Krita since it has no equivalent but should the rest replace OpenOffice? KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? All opinions welcome. Jonathan Riddell From gtaylor at CLEMSON.EDU Tue Jun 21 19:40:03 2005 From: gtaylor at CLEMSON.EDU (Greg Taylor) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:40:03 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506211540.03670.gtaylor@clemson.edu> Touchy subject. I myself have used OpenOffice extensively for as long as I can remember. Despite it being slow and somewhat ugly, it's a rock solid product. Given that I haven't played with KOffice in a very long time nor have I seen 1.4 (due to some MD5sum errors with our local mirror), I'd be hesitant to see OpenOffice replaced. Especially if we can get it to compile under gcc4 like Fedora. On Tuesday 21 June 2005 3:34 pm, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php > > We also have an installable Live CD listed at the URL above. > > The question is whether KOffice 1.4 is good enough for breezy. Some > parts will probably get in such as Krita since it has no equivalent > but should the rest replace OpenOffice? > > KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but > will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? > > All opinions welcome. > > Jonathan Riddell > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From svloon at xs4all.nl Tue Jun 21 20:47:24 2005 From: svloon at xs4all.nl (Sander van Loon) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:47:24 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506212247.24747.svloon@xs4all.nl> I've tried the KOffice 1.4 RC's and now the final, but I haven't had any serious experiences with using it. I have used OpenOffice a lot though. OpenOffice is good and more mature than KOffice. But KOffice is a lot better integrated into KDE, has a more attractive interface, starts up nearly instantly (at least 10 times faster than OO) and has other advantages. It's a difficult choice though. Both are good, but OO 2.0 will be more mature and more popular. So maybe the Kubuntu team had better wait and stick with OO for breezy, and wait for the next KOffice release before Kubuntu starts using KOffice as the default? I don't think I'm qualified to make this choice though, because I haven't got much experience with KOffice 1.4 yet. My main concern is a good function for exporting to MS Office file formats, I'm a student and most of my classmates only know Windows :( . So which Office suite has the best MS Office compatibility would win for me. The best solution would be the implemention of a package selection feature during the installation of Kubuntu, so people could choose whether they want KOffice or OO. But I don't know if that fits in the Kubuntu philosophy. On Tuesday 21 June 2005 21:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php > > We also have an installable Live CD listed at the URL above. > > The question is whether KOffice 1.4 is good enough for breezy. Some > parts will probably get in such as Krita since it has no equivalent > but should the rest replace OpenOffice? > > KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but > will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? > > All opinions welcome. > > Jonathan Riddell From sebas at kde.nl Tue Jun 21 21:10:11 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:10:11 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506212310.17545.sebas@kde.nl> On Tuesday 21 June 2005 21:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php > The question is whether KOffice 1.4 is good enough for breezy. Some > parts will probably get in such as Krita since it has no equivalent > but should the rest replace OpenOffice? Not yet, I'm afraid. I just opened a couple of random documents, from myself (mostly openoffice documents), some .doc's and .ppt's. Although there I saw big improvements over the older release, 1.3.5 it had all kinds of problems: - Opening 2 page .doc would eventually have kword (== all other koffice parts) killed due to an increasing number of pages at a high rate. - Background images on all .ppt's I've tried to open got lost. - Some text got lost on a lot of .ppt's. - Layout information (font face) got lost in some cases when opening a .swx I could probably find more of these, but for me it's enough to prefer OpenOffice above koffice for my daily work. Koffice didn't open 1/3 of the random documents I've tried correctly. (Note that I'd really like koffice to be able to replace sluggish Openoffice for me, but at this point it's just not good enough :-(). > KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but > will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? Agree on the faster and integrated bits, amd64 support is being worked on at the moment and should be fixed by the time OOo2 comes out (or should we say "OOo2 comes out when they get it to compile on amd64"? :-)). Also the extra java "dependency" (= strong advise) doesn't make OOo any more attractive. > All opinions welcome. Cheers (and great work, still, koffice devels!), sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do you know the difference between education and experience? 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Haven't tried Koffice, but since its MS Office integration is poor, I'm not interested. I hate to say so, but if linux is to be considered as a serious desktop competitor to MS, it has to have compatibility with MS programs. I know, MS is not very open about their formats, so it's tough to implement. But it seems that the people behind e.g. Samba and OpenOffice succeeded pretty well. Moreover, linux desktop programs need to be just as good or maybe even better than MS'. Looking at Kubuntu, this goal is getting closer and closer; e.g Kontakt is a far better mail client than Outlook Express, Kaffeine integrates at least 3 media players you need in Windows, Kopete is great etc, etc. Well, that was just my humble opinion - bit beyond of the scope of the original post... :-) Roel. From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Wed Jun 22 18:48:32 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:32 -0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506221348.32547.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Most distributions are giving the possibility of OpenOffice & Koffice, or one of them. I'm a dedicated OpenOffice user. Ruud On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php > > We also have an installable Live CD listed at the URL above. > > The question is whether KOffice 1.4 is good enough for breezy. Some > parts will probably get in such as Krita since it has no equivalent > but should the rest replace OpenOffice? > > KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but > will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? > > All opinions welcome. > > Jonathan Riddell -- My skills are multimillion euro projects, where I can find the people needed (out of my network and former colleagues) and making sure that the project is finished within budget (!) and in time (!) I'm urgently looking for difficult Project Management jobs in Europe, but what I need is not a company who wants the PM to be the Consultant. A PM plans a project (for instance hiring a Consultant) and makes a Business Case if you needed., getting the technicians in and makes sure to project is delivered. Please find enclosed a resume. If you can help me to find work a.s.a.p. then you make me a very happy person. Also work in UK, Germany etc. is perfect. Regards ========================================================= Ruud Koendering                                  Sr. Project manager De Wickelaan 11 2265 DG Leidschendam - Nederland Tel. +31 (0)70 3271506 ========================================================= From domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it Wed Jun 22 13:00:44 2005 From: domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it (Scido) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:00:44 +0200 Subject: where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? Message-ID: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Sorry, Maybe I'll be annoying you, but I really don't understand why, after a mounth, there isn't the kde 3.4.1 packages for amd64 arch. Now It's out koffice1.4, will it be the same? Is there any problem? doesn't they compile on amd64 PCs? Please tell us how much time you need, if you need help or other... Thanks and sorry for this mail Domi -- Linux User # 368882 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From jr at jriddell.org Wed Jun 22 13:19:04 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:04 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? In-Reply-To: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> References: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <20050622131904.GY10250@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:00:44PM +0200, Scido wrote: > Maybe I'll be annoying you, but I really don't understand why, after a mounth, > there isn't the kde 3.4.1 packages for amd64 arch. Now It's out koffice1.4, > will it be the same? Is there any problem? doesn't they compile on amd64 PCs? > Please tell us how much time you need, if you need help or other... I'm afraid I don't have access to an amd64 machine to compile them on. Jonathan Riddell From peter.shillan at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:24:12 2005 From: peter.shillan at gmail.com (Peter Shillan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:24:12 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? In-Reply-To: <20050622131904.GY10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> <20050622131904.GY10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, > I'm afraid I don't have access to an amd64 machine to compile them on. I do... but I've only ever built KDE from source once - a long time ago - and I have never built Debian packages. I assume there are Debian source packages that I could use ... but if you give me a few hints I could try it out and we might get someone else to test them too. If I remember rightly, you're in Scotland aren't you? I am too and my AMD64 is a laptop. I live near Dunblane and work in Glasgow... just in case there's a call for a bit of meeting up and trying it! Cheers, Peter. From domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it Wed Jun 22 13:37:54 2005 From: domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it (Scido) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:37:54 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? In-Reply-To: <20050622131904.GY10250@muse.19inch.net> References: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> <20050622131904.GY10250@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200506221538.06100.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Alle 15:19, mercoledì 22 giugno 2005, Jonathan Riddell ha scritto: > I'm afraid I don't have access to an amd64 machine to compile them on. > > Jonathan Riddell If you want me and, maybe, Peter can compile everything and upload them on kubuntu server. I'm not a programmer, so just tell me how I have to do. I'm able to compile programs (configure, make, make install), using debian-way too (i.e. dpkg-buildpackage). If downloading source from ftp and compiling using the debian-way is enough, I can do it. other problem is the uploading: I don't know how to create a repository (I've got a ftp server). Many thanks for your speedy answer. Best, Domi -- Per gli hacker un computer significa anche intrattenimento. Non giochi, non belle immagini sulla rete. Il Computer in sé è intrattenimento.                                 Linus Torvalds --------- Linux User # 368882 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available URL: From derek at slovin.us Wed Jun 22 16:13:40 2005 From: derek at slovin.us (Derek Slovin) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:13:40 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050622161117.9A33A23D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050622161117.9A33A23D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1119456824.13814FBF@bb12.dngr.org> No it does not. On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:13 pm, Peter Barnes wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Riddell" > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available >> KOffice is faster and more integrated, plus it compiles on amd64 but >> will Kubuntu be considered a serious distribution without OpenOffice? > > Does KOffice 1.4 have a database application which is equivalent to MS > Access, as I understand OO 2.0 now has? People migrating from Windows > expect that (even those like me who use Paradox instead of Access!). > > Peter > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users --Derek Slovin From jr at jriddell.org Wed Jun 22 16:22:31 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:22:31 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050622161117.9A33A23D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050622161117.9A33A23D03@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050622162230.GC10250@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 04:11:17PM +0000, Peter Barnes wrote: > Does KOffice 1.4 have a database application which is equivalent to > MS Access, as I understand OO 2.0 now has? People migrating from > Windows expect that (even those like me who use Paradox instead of > Access!). Yes, Kexi. However KOffice released with Kexi 0.8 and Kexi is doing individual releases currently up to 0.9. So we will package Kexi separately. I'm currently playing with packages now so hopefully they'll be in breezy soon. Jonathan Riddell From bayrouni at brutele.be Wed Jun 22 20:45:47 2005 From: bayrouni at brutele.be (Al Bayrouni) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:45:47 +0200 Subject: test Message-ID: <42B9CDFB.5050907@brutele.be> From darthsuicune at retena.com Thu Jun 23 16:19:18 2005 From: darthsuicune at retena.com (denis) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:19:18 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS Message-ID: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> Hi all guys. I'm new at Linux although i already know some basic things... I've had a problem with XMMS using Kubuntu 5.04 I downloaded the official repository version and installed it. It worked for a while. Then it suddenly stopped working. Now, when i try to execute it i get the following error: /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' I've tried commenting the line of the file that gives the error, but then i just get a segfault error. I've also tried uninstalling it completely, removing the related directory (~/.xmms) and reinstalling it but it won't work (so i suppose it's not a config problem or xmms itself problem but another package problem...) Thanks 4 all Cu Denis From sebas at kde.nl Thu Jun 23 16:34:36 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:34:36 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS In-Reply-To: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> References: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> Message-ID: <200506231834.40447.sebas@kde.nl> On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:19, denis wrote: > Hi all guys. I'm new at Linux although i already know some basic > things... > > I've had a problem with XMMS using Kubuntu 5.04 > > I downloaded the official repository version and installed it. It > worked for a while. Then it suddenly stopped working. Now, when i try > to execute it i get the following error: > > /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier > `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' > /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier > `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' > > I've tried commenting the line of the file that gives the error, but > then i just get a segfault error. > I've also tried uninstalling it completely, removing the related > directory (~/.xmms) and reinstalling it but it won't work (so i > suppose it's not a config problem or xmms itself problem but another > package problem...) You might want to try moving /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc out of the way (keep a backup, you never know) and restart xmms. 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The aliasing is a shell input feature. /usr/bin/sudo and /bin/sh -c "X" executes programs without any input parsing. I think it would be a security leak if any replacement like aliasing would be done in such executions. You can force sudo to accept /bin/rm only with "-i" or "-f" argument. Read for this "man 5 sudoers" and use visudo. From darthsuicune at retena.com Thu Jun 23 16:47:28 2005 From: darthsuicune at retena.com (denis) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:47:28 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS In-Reply-To: <200506231834.40447.sebas@kde.nl> References: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> <200506231834.40447.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <42BAE7A0.10507@retena.com> Sebastian Kügler wrote: >On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:19, denis wrote: > > >>Hi all guys. I'm new at Linux although i already know some basic >>things... >> >>I've had a problem with XMMS using Kubuntu 5.04 >> >>I downloaded the official repository version and installed it. It >>worked for a while. Then it suddenly stopped working. Now, when i try >>to execute it i get the following error: >> >>/home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier >>`gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' >>/home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected identifier >>`gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' >> >>I've tried commenting the line of the file that gives the error, but >>then i just get a segfault error. >>I've also tried uninstalling it completely, removing the related >>directory (~/.xmms) and reinstalling it but it won't work (so i >>suppose it's not a config problem or xmms itself problem but another >>package problem...) >> >> > >You might want to try moving /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc out of >the way (keep a backup, you never know) and restart xmms. Don't know >where the error comes from, but just removing the file shouldn't do too >much harm. > > > >>Denis >> >> > >sebas > > Thx. I've tried it (as I said i had tried to comment the line which got the error getting just a segfault) but i still get the segfault. The XMMS looks to appear during a ms and dissappear again. If it's from any help i'm stuck at kernel 2.6.10-5 (k7 version) with my AMD 2000XP+, 512 RAM, AC'97 soundcard. I think that the problem may had started after trying to get the nvidia module (for my Gforce FX 5600XT) working (i've just tried, but haven't managed to get it to work, as i've tried the ubuntuguide way but it won't work too) This is too bad U__U Thx 4 all again Greetings, Denis From sebas at kde.nl Thu Jun 23 17:42:21 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:42:21 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS In-Reply-To: <42BAE7A0.10507@retena.com> References: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> <200506231834.40447.sebas@kde.nl> <42BAE7A0.10507@retena.com> Message-ID: <200506231942.21318.sebas@kde.nl> On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:47, denis wrote: > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:19, denis wrote: > >>Hi all guys. I'm new at Linux although i already know some basic > >>things... > >> > >>I've had a problem with XMMS using Kubuntu 5.04 > >> > >>I downloaded the official repository version and installed it. It > >>worked for a while. Then it suddenly stopped working. Now, when i > >> try to execute it i get the following error: > >> > >>/home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected > >> identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. > >> `style' /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected > >> identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. > >> `style' > >> > >>I've tried commenting the line of the file that gives the error, > >> but then i just get a segfault error. > >>I've also tried uninstalling it completely, removing the related > >>directory (~/.xmms) and reinstalling it but it won't work (so i > >>suppose it's not a config problem or xmms itself problem but > >> another package problem...) > > > >You might want to try moving /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc out > > of the way (keep a backup, you never know) and restart xmms. Don't > > know where the error comes from, but just removing the file > > shouldn't do too much harm. > Thx. I've tried it (as I said i had tried to comment the line which > got the error getting just a segfault) but i still get the segfault. > The XMMS looks to appear during a ms and dissappear again. For clarification, did you remove the file, or only the line mentioned in the error message? sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Accident, n.: A condition in which presence of mind is good, but absence of body is better. - Foolish Dictionary -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now, when i >>>>try to execute it i get the following error: >>>> >>>>/home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected >>>>identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. >>>>`style' /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:38: error: unexpected >>>>identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. >>>>`style' >>>> >>>>I've tried commenting the line of the file that gives the error, >>>>but then i just get a segfault error. >>>>I've also tried uninstalling it completely, removing the related >>>>directory (~/.xmms) and reinstalling it but it won't work (so i >>>>suppose it's not a config problem or xmms itself problem but >>>>another package problem...) >>>> >>>> >>>You might want to try moving /home/denis/.kde/share/config/gtkrc out >>>of the way (keep a backup, you never know) and restart xmms. Don't >>>know where the error comes from, but just removing the file >>>shouldn't do too much harm. >>> >>> > > > >>Thx. I've tried it (as I said i had tried to comment the line which >>got the error getting just a segfault) but i still get the segfault. >>The XMMS looks to appear during a ms and dissappear again. >> >> > >For clarification, did you remove the file, or only the line mentioned >in the error message? > >sebas > > I've tried both ways. Both get the same result. Also i've just discovered that another app (Frozen-bubble, just trying things out) has the same problem (segfault and exit at start) I think it could be related to the graphics... I'll keep testing more things, if you think about a possibility plz let me know Thx 4 all Greetings, Denis From sebas at kde.nl Thu Jun 23 18:04:49 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:49 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS In-Reply-To: <42BAF6A9.4040201@retena.com> References: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> <200506231942.21318.sebas@kde.nl> <42BAF6A9.4040201@retena.com> Message-ID: <200506232004.49818.sebas@kde.nl> > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >For clarification, did you remove the file, or only the line > > mentioned in the error message? > I've tried both ways. Both get the same result. Also i've just > discovered that another app (Frozen-bubble, just trying things out) > has the same problem (segfault and exit at start) On Thursday 23 June 2005 19:51, denis wrote: > I think it could be related to the graphics... I'll keep testing more > things, if you think about a possibility plz let me know Maybe some incompatible X-thingie then? You could try to reinstall the following candidates: xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-dri xserver-xorg xlibs xlibs-static-pic (Use sudo apt-get install --reinstall $BLAH) ... just guessing. :-O Cheers, sebas -- http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Where the system is concerned, you're not allowed to ask 'Why?'. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it Thu Jun 23 18:05:59 2005 From: domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it (Scido) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:05:59 +0200 Subject: I did it!!! Kde 3.4.1 e Koffice 1.4 for amd64 Message-ID: <200506232006.07888.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Hi I did it. I've tried to compile everything on my amd64 CPU and it seems all ok!. If someone would try, I made a repository. Here's the link: deb http://www.digitalronin.it/ubuntu hoary-updates main Beware, use it on your own risk!!! (I'm using it and so far everything is ok) I've uploaded other packages: libxine -> 1.0.1 version (resolve kaffeine crashing) python2.4-kde3 -> 3.11.4 libtunepimp -> compiled against libmad0 (mp3 support) streamtuner -> patched for live365 problem for kde-i18n-* packages, you can use the official repository (perhaps tomorrow I'll copy them on my ftp). Tomorrow I'm going to write a small note regarding compile methods I used for KDE and Koffice. -- Per gli hacker un computer significa anche intrattenimento. Non giochi, non belle immagini sulla rete. Il Computer in sé è intrattenimento.                                 Linus Torvalds --------- Linux User # 368882 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jr at jriddell.org Thu Jun 23 18:16:23 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:16:23 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] KOffice 1.4 - Kubuntu Packages available In-Reply-To: <20050622150000.42f53bbe.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <200506212105.44672.chris@deadhand.com> <20050621193433.GU10250@muse.19inch.net> <200506221348.32547.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <20050622150000.42f53bbe.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20050623181623.GG10250@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:00:00PM +0100, James Tappin wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:32 -0500 > > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:05:44PM +0200, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > > > http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php > > > Is there any plan to produce a version for PowerPC? PowerPC packages are now available. Jonathan Riddell From darthsuicune at retena.com Thu Jun 23 19:49:05 2005 From: darthsuicune at retena.com (denis) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:49:05 +0200 Subject: Problem with XMMS In-Reply-To: <200506232004.49818.sebas@kde.nl> References: <42BAE106.30506@retena.com> <200506231942.21318.sebas@kde.nl> <42BAF6A9.4040201@retena.com> <200506232004.49818.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <42BB1231.2090204@retena.com> Sebastian Kügler wrote: >>Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> >> >>>For clarification, did you remove the file, or only the line >>>mentioned in the error message? >>> >>> > > > >>I've tried both ways. Both get the same result. Also i've just >>discovered that another app (Frozen-bubble, just trying things out) >>has the same problem (segfault and exit at start) >> >> > >On Thursday 23 June 2005 19:51, denis wrote: > > >>I think it could be related to the graphics... I'll keep testing more >>things, if you think about a possibility plz let me know >> >> > >Maybe some incompatible X-thingie then? > >You could try to reinstall the following candidates: > >xlibmesa-gl >xlibmesa-dri >xserver-xorg >xlibs >xlibs-static-pic > >(Use sudo apt-get install --reinstall $BLAH) > >... just guessing. :-O > >Cheers, > >sebas > > Thanks a lot!!! Problem solved :D Now my main headaches are going towards configuring properly my GForce, but this will be later, now i have better things to do Thanks again :) Cheers, Denis From maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it Fri Jun 24 09:49:33 2005 From: maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it (maurizio bonavita) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: usb printer Message-ID: <20050624094933.22229.qmail@web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi All, I have a problem making my printer work. I mean it seems like the system doesn't recognize it. The printer is an Epson stylus c62. I installe dit with the module for printers in kcontrol I tried to print a test page but nothing happens, I am totally lost when it comes to printer usb connection ... help please thanx in advance maurizio ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 03:21:50 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:21:50 +0800 Subject: Any database program? Message-ID: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'm new to the list and I don't know where to ask such a question. If I'm in the wrong place, please forgive me. Since I had just install my OS last night and had difficulty finding the database program. I'm actually looking for a graphic user interface database program, any idea where can I find it? I'm using the ppc version of ubuntu. Ivan From waldbie at verizon.net Sat Jun 25 03:33:12 2005 From: waldbie at verizon.net (Carl) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:33:12 -0400 Subject: Any database program? In-Reply-To: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200506242333.12571.waldbie@verizon.net> On Friday 24 June 2005 11:21 pm, Ivan Low wrote: > Hi, I'm new to the list and I don't know where to ask such a question. > If I'm in the wrong place, please forgive me. > Since I had just install my OS last night and had difficulty finding the > database program. I'm actually looking for a graphic user interface > database program, any idea where can I find it? > I'm using the ppc version of ubuntu. > > Ivan Database server's typically don't have a GUI because they are servers. However, a number of GUI front ends exist for postgresql including pgaccess and knoda. knoda is a pretty good front end for several different database servers. I believe the new KDE just out has a program called kexi that is supposed to be software along the lines of MS Access. Hope that helps! Carl Waldbieser From serg.belokamen at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 05:04:13 2005 From: serg.belokamen at gmail.com (Serg Belokamen) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:04:13 +1000 Subject: Any database program? In-Reply-To: <200506242333.12571.waldbie@verizon.net> References: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200506242333.12571.waldbie@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1119675853.15096.2.camel@showof> Generally in Linux world and as a home user or a SME user using Linux patform you would be interested in looking at PostgreSQL (my personal choise) or MySQL. Both have GUI programs such as PgAdmin3 and MySQLAdmin and MySQL Query Browser. Serg On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 23:33 -0400, Carl wrote: > On Friday 24 June 2005 11:21 pm, Ivan Low wrote: > > Hi, I'm new to the list and I don't know where to ask such a question. > > If I'm in the wrong place, please forgive me. > > Since I had just install my OS last night and had difficulty finding the > > database program. I'm actually looking for a graphic user interface > > database program, any idea where can I find it? > > I'm using the ppc version of ubuntu. > > > > Ivan > > Database server's typically don't have a GUI because they are servers. > However, a number of GUI front ends exist for postgresql including pgaccess > and knoda. knoda is a pretty good front end for several different database > servers. I believe the new KDE just out has a program called kexi that is > supposed to be software along the lines of MS Access. > > Hope that helps! > > Carl Waldbieser > From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 06:07:08 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:07:08 +0800 Subject: Where do I find the apprecation? Message-ID: <1119679628.7341.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I had install some of the software from the package manager and had hard time finding them. May I know where can I find them? I realise that there are some program installed in the system but it didn't appear in the application menu. Is there a common directory where I can find them all? Ivan From bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 25 11:19:16 2005 From: bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk (Bobby Singh) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:19:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: simple network question please Message-ID: <20050625111916.84754.qmail@web26504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, Can anyone answer just this simple question. SETUP: I have a modem/router on my computer (host). And in another room a wireless enabled computer. Everything works, both computers or just 1 computer can access the internet. QUESTION: I have a firewall/anti-virues on my computer and all OS. Now does the other computer need its own firewall or does my computer being the host with its firewall protects it (when its on of course). The router has option for a firewall. If i enabled it i assume it will protect the other computer. However will there be conflict with the firewall i have on my computer (guarddog and zonealarm). Cheers Bob ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From waldbie at verizon.net Sat Jun 25 17:20:34 2005 From: waldbie at verizon.net (Carl) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:20:34 -0400 Subject: simple network question please In-Reply-To: <20050625111916.84754.qmail@web26504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050625111916.84754.qmail@web26504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506251320.34469.waldbie@verizon.net> On Saturday 25 June 2005 7:19 am, Bobby Singh wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone answer just this simple question. > > SETUP: > I have a modem/router on my computer (host). And in > another room a wireless enabled computer. Everything > works, both computers or just 1 computer can access > the internet. > > QUESTION: > I have a firewall/anti-virues on my computer and all > OS. Now does the other computer need its own firewall > or does my computer being the host with its firewall > protects it (when its on of course). > The router has option for a firewall. If i enabled it > i assume it will protect the other computer. However > will there be conflict with the firewall i have on my > computer (guarddog and zonealarm). > > Cheers > > Bob Bob, If your computer with the wireless connection is connecting wirelessly to the router (i.e. the router is its gateway), then the other computer's firewall does *not* protect it. This is the most likely scenario. The firewall on your router will not interfere with your Ubuntu firewall, other than to act as a first filter. I will attempt a little ASCII art to make my point. Internet router guarddog firewall | | port 22 port 22 ----> Goes through | | | port 80 ----> Blocked at router | | port 25 | ----> Blocked at guarddog In this diagram, the router lets inbound traffic for ports 22 (ssh) and 25 (smtp) pass. Guarddog is configured to let port 22 (ssh) and port 80 (http) traffic pass. In this configuration, the only traffic that can actually get to your Kubuntu computer is port 22 traffic. In the same configuration, port 22 traffic and port 25 traffic could reach the wireless computer on your home network, because it doesn't have its own firewall. Carl Waldbieser From derek at slovin.us Sat Jun 25 23:32:12 2005 From: derek at slovin.us (Derek Slovin) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:32:12 -0400 Subject: Any database program? Message-ID: <1119742541.205046B5@bf12.dngr.org> If you want something similar to MS Access, I would reccomend sqlite (with one of the many gui front ends). This uses a file instead of a server. --derek slovin On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 7:21 pm, Ivan Low wrote: > Hi, I'm new to the list and I don't know where to ask such a question. > If I'm in the wrong place, please forgive me. > Since I had just install my OS last night and had difficulty finding > the > database program. I'm actually looking for a graphic user interface > database program, any idea where can I find it? > I'm using the ppc version of ubuntu. > > Ivan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users --Derek Slovin From ttrichle7 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 06:47:00 2005 From: ttrichle7 at yahoo.com (Todd Trichler) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Booting Kubuntu Live CD on twin CPU G5 - Hangs Message-ID: <20050626064700.63905.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Hi guys I did not find anything that set me right on google. kubuntu installed quite nicely on my Tecra 9000 laptop, so I thought I would play around with it on my G5 at home with the Apple Cinema Display. However when I tried to boot off of the live CD for PPC kubuntu-5.04-live-powerpc.iso it hangs with a white screen and the following text.. ...ok opening display /pci at 0, f0000000/ATY, SimoneParent at 10/ATY, Simone_B at 1_ and then the hard disk begins to race -- and I have to shut the power off :( I also tried the 'live video=ofonly' -- same result. does anyone know if the liveCD actually supports the 2.0GHZ twin cpu G5 model -- or am I in unchartered waters. TIA - Todd ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From aurox_user at yahoo.de Sun Jun 26 11:12:15 2005 From: aurox_user at yahoo.de (Linux-User) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:12:15 +0200 Subject: How to install a .deb package Message-ID: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 26 09:21:38 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:21:38 +0200 Subject: How to install a .deb package In-Reply-To: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> References: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <200506261121.38917.chris@deadhand.com> Hello, yes, basically what you have to do is similar to the rpm - command, so when you are in the directory where the deb is you enter: sudo dpkg -i .deb If there are no further dependencies your package will be installed. Anyway as I guess from your comment about Synaptic, that the package actually is in the repositories you should try first to do: sudo apt-get install (no .deb) Maybe you should try to search for the exact name of the program first: apt-cache search So I don't know what your Synaptic (is it really that, or is it Kynaptic on Kubuntu?) does maybe this helps. Cheers, Chris Am Sonntag 26 Juni 2005 13:12 schrieb Linux-User: > Hello, > > i´ve installed Thunderbird by Synaptec. > > The problem with Synaptec is that, i doesn´t find pakages anymore. > So i´ve search with google for other .deb packages.... > (normally i used an RPM Distribution) > When i klick on the ".deb" package,it wont install it. > > Muss i install the package with the Konsole  such like "rpm -Uhv ****.RPM" > RPM based Linux does? From aurox_user at yahoo.de Sun Jun 26 11:32:39 2005 From: aurox_user at yahoo.de (Linux-User) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:32:39 +0200 Subject: How to install a .deb package In-Reply-To: <200506261121.38917.chris@deadhand.com> References: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> <200506261121.38917.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <42BE9257.6000405@yahoo.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james at grayonline.id.au Sun Jun 26 09:31:02 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:31:02 +1000 Subject: How to install a .deb package In-Reply-To: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> References: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <200506261931.02726.james@grayonline.id.au> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12 pm, Linux-User wrote: > Hello, > > i´ve installed Thunderbird by Synaptec. > > The problem with Synaptec is that, i doesn´t find pakages anymore. > So i´ve search with google for other .deb packages.... > (normally i used an RPM Distribution) > When i klick on the ".deb" package,it wont install it. > > Muss i install the package with the Konsole  such like "rpm -Uhv > ****.RPM" RPM based Linux does? sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb should do the trick. The bigger question though, is what is broken that causes synaptic (apt/aptitude/kynaptic/etc) to fail? Help us help you - what does "sudo apt-get update" do from the command line? What does "sudo apt-get install " do from the command line where "" is something you want to install? Have you done an "sudo apt-get --fix-missing update && sudo apt-get -f install" on the command line to try and fix anything? I'm sure others might have other suggestions, but more info will help us help you (we're good, but we're not psychic! :P) Cheers, James -- Avoid gunfire in the bathroom tonight. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That was all :( James Gray wrote: >On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12 pm, Linux-User wrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> i´ve installed Thunderbird by Synaptec. >> >> The problem with Synaptec is that, i doesn´t find pakages anymore. >> So i´ve search with google for other .deb packages.... >> (normally i used an RPM Distribution) >> When i klick on the ".deb" package,it wont install it. >> >> Muss i install the package with the Konsole such like "rpm -Uhv >>****.RPM" RPM based Linux does? >> >> > >sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb > >should do the trick. > >The bigger question though, is what is broken that causes synaptic >(apt/aptitude/kynaptic/etc) to fail? > >Help us help you - what does "sudo apt-get update" do from the command line? >What does "sudo apt-get install " do from the command line where >"" is something you want to install? Have you done an "sudo >apt-get --fix-missing update && sudo apt-get -f install" on the command >line to try and fix anything? > >I'm sure others might have other suggestions, but more info will help us >help you (we're good, but we're not psychic! :P) > >Cheers, > >James > > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de From chris at deadhand.com Sun Jun 26 11:03:01 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:03:01 +0200 Subject: Konqueror crashes Message-ID: <200506261303.01851.chris@deadhand.com> Hello, I'm doing some file management right now - basically getting the dust of some files and digging through some backups so I work a lot in Konqueror. What is really annoying right now is the amounts Konqueror decides to just crash. mostly it's when I use keyboard commandos - like Ctrl+X or (this happens the most) simply "Del". Konqueror then often will just vanish and the crash dalog will come up. I almost gone so far that I try to avoid using "del" to delete files and do it through the context menu instead. Obviously that's not very fast and years of using keyboard shortcuts don't just get out of my head... Anyway what I really wanted to ask is if this is still (with KDE 3.4.1, which I'm using) is know behaviour and if there is something I can do about it instead of not using basic features. Any help's appreciated. Kind regards, Chris From frode at lnix.net Sun Jun 26 11:56:26 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:56:26 +0200 Subject: How to install a .deb package In-Reply-To: <42BE870C.5090103@yahoo.de> References: <42BE8D8F.2070809@yahoo.de> <200506261931.02726.james@grayonline.id.au> <42BE870C.5090103@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <200506261356.32019.frode@lnix.net> Søndag 26 juni 2005 12:44, skrev Hendrik Pater: > No Updates > > hendrik at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update > Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig > hendrik at ubuntu:~$ > > See above...the console. > It says..Packages will be read... Finished. > That was all :( > [cut] Looks like your /etc/apt/sources.list file might be empty. You should check that. If it is empty, i have posted a example sources.list at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/303802 Universe and Multiverse is enabled, plus Koffice and KDE 3.4.1 from kubuntu.org. If you would like to disable some of the repositories edit the file and put a # infront of the one you would like to disable. - Frode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 01:15:34 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:15:34 +0800 Subject: Synaptic Error Message-ID: <1119834934.6680.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I was trying to start Synaptic today and I there was a error message below: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key Does anybody know how do I fix it? Is it something serious? Ivan From hans at poppe.nu Sat Jun 25 17:33:29 2005 From: hans at poppe.nu (Hans Poppe) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:29 +0200 Subject: usb printer References: <20050624094933.22229.qmail@web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: maurizio bonavita wisely stated: > Hi All, > I have a problem making my printer work. I mean it > seems like the system doesn't recognize it. The > printer is an Epson stylus c62. I installe dit with > the module for printers in kcontrol I tried to print a > test page but nothing happens, I am totally lost when > it comes to printer usb connection ... > help please > thanx in advance > maurizio Please state Oprating System (OS) and version. Which print command are you using? LPR? CUPS? Hans Poppe -- *************** Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! From dripple2 at laposte.net Mon Jun 27 06:35:25 2005 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:35:25 +0200 Subject: Create Marillat repos equivalent for Ubuntu Message-ID: Hi all, I recently read a lot about Christian's Marillat repos. Since Sarge is now released, Christian's repos changed their names, and are now no more compatible with Ubuntu. I was wondering if anyone could create equivalents to those repositories for Ubuntu, with 3 branches : warty, hoary, breezy. What do you think about it ? Dripple From ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk Mon Jun 27 06:49:01 2005 From: ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk (Ben Hayes) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:49:01 +0100 Subject: Alsaconf issues & KOffice 1.4 Message-ID: <200506270749.08709.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> I know that this has probably been asked before so please forgive me. I currently have Kubuntu v5.0.4 installed. I've already 'apt-dist-upgrade' the os as well. I have a Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit 5.1/6.1/7.1 sound card (which should use the emu10k1 driver). I have Alsa-base upto the latest release. My problem is I cannot find alsaconf. I can find alsamixer and alsactl but cannot seem to find alsaconf. Can some please point me in the direction of where it is located or where it can be downloaded. KOffice 1.4 - Has it be packaged for Kubuntu yet? If so, where can I get it from? Thanks Ben -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aurox_user at yahoo.de Mon Jun 27 07:45:05 2005 From: aurox_user at yahoo.de (hendrik pater) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:45:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Ant: Re: usb printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050627074505.2290.qmail@web26902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> USB Printer runs wirh CUPS. Be aware,that you take they Local Printer. --- Hans Poppe schrieb: > maurizio bonavita wisely stated: > > > Hi All, > > I have a problem making my printer work. I mean it > > seems like the system doesn't recognize it. The > > printer is an Epson stylus c62. I installe dit > with > > the module for printers in kcontrol I tried to > print a > > test page but nothing happens, I am totally lost > when > > it comes to printer usb connection ... > > help please > > thanx in advance > > maurizio > Please state Oprating System (OS) and version. Which > print command are you > using? LPR? CUPS? > Hans Poppe > -- > *************** > Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de From aurox_user at yahoo.de Mon Jun 27 07:48:13 2005 From: aurox_user at yahoo.de (hendrik pater) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Ant: Synaptic Error In-Reply-To: <1119834934.6680.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050627074813.98906.qmail@web26907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, i had the same Problem. After i have chosen other FTP´s as well as HTTP´s ( configuring the "/etc/apt/sources.list" with an editor) the Problem is gone. Maybe it is just a failure directly from your chosen server? --- Ivan Low schrieb: > Hi, I was trying to start Synaptic today and I there > was a error message > below: > > W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com > hoary-security Release: The > following signatures were invalid: BADSIG > 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu > Archive Automatic Signing Key > > Does anybody know how do I fix it? > Is it something serious? > > Ivan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de From maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it Mon Jun 27 08:46:36 2005 From: maurizio_bonavita at yahoo.it (maurizio bonavita) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ant: Re: usb printer Message-ID: <20050627084637.95218.qmail@web25510.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all, thanx for your answers. I am using kubuntu 5.04 running on HP pavillion z5000 series laptop and I configure my printer with cups. Problem is all my usb devices (bluetooth, optical mouse) don't work. As for the optical mouse I followed the instructions suggested to edit the xorg.conf file, but I guess the problem is related to the usb ports on my machine. Someone suggested to update the firmware of my laptop thing that I am going to do as soon as I get back home from work, keep you posted ... thanx again Maurizio __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html From edulix at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 09:42:42 2005 From: edulix at gmail.com (Eduardo Robles Elvira) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:42:42 +0200 Subject: Alsaconf issues & KOffice 1.4 In-Reply-To: <200506270749.08709.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> References: <200506270749.08709.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <200506271142.42334.edulix@gmail.com> El Lunes 27 Junio 2005 08:49, Ben Hayes escribió: > KOffice 1.4 - Has it be packaged for Kubuntu yet?  If so, where can I get > it from? Yep, someone already posted this last week: just add this repository to apt (coipy&paste to /etc/apt/sources.list or do it graphically with kynaptic/synaptic): deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice14 hoary-updates main Have a nice day, Edulix. From frode at lnix.net Mon Jun 27 13:34:06 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:34:06 +0200 Subject: where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? In-Reply-To: References: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200506271534.09365.frode@lnix.net> Onsdag 22 juni 2005 15:06, skrev Peter Shillan: > Hi Domi, > > On 6/22/05, Scido wrote: > > Maybe I'll be annoying you, but I really don't understand why, after a > > mounth, there isn't the kde 3.4.1 packages for amd64 arch. Now It's out > > koffice1.4, will it be the same? Is there any problem? doesn't they > > compile on amd64 PCs? Please tell us how much time you need, if you need > > help or other... > > I have asked this question twice now and still not received an answer. > If anyone does let you know off-list, I would appreciate you passing > that answer on to me. > [snip] I'm working on packages for amd64 now. Sorry it's this late. Our amd64-compile-guy has been very busy lately. Note that theese are not official ubuntu packages. They are more like semi-official kubuntu.org packages. That's why we can't use the ubuntu compile-farm to compile the packages. KDE 3.4.1 is almost done (missing kdevelop and updated kdepim (closing #8221). koffice is next on my priority list. I'll post a message to this list when KDE 3.4.1 is ready for download. And another one when koffice 1.4 is ready. - Frode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gtaylor at CLEMSON.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:59:55 2005 From: gtaylor at CLEMSON.EDU (Greg Taylor) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:59:55 -0400 Subject: Create Marillat repos equivalent for Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506270959.56011.gtaylor@clemson.edu> On Monday 27 June 2005 2:35 am, Dripple wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently read a lot about Christian's Marillat repos. Since Sarge is > now released, Christian's repos changed their names, and are now no more > compatible with Ubuntu. > > I was wondering if anyone could create equivalents to those repositories > for Ubuntu, with 3 branches : warty, hoary, breezy. > > What do you think about it ? > > Dripple The backports repository has most of the stuff that Marillat did, your best bet is adding this to your sources.list file: # Primary Backports Mirror (5/17/2005) overloaded :) #deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted #deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted # Backup Backports Mirror #deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main multiverse universe restricted #deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main multiverse universe restricted deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 17:35:20 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:35:20 +0800 Subject: Problem with new repository Message-ID: <42C038D8.2030300@yahoo.com> Hi, I was trying to add new repository as according to the following web page http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/303802. But I got error message when I start up the Synaptic. Error message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Any idea why it does not work? Ivan From frode at lnix.net Mon Jun 27 18:12:35 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:12:35 +0200 Subject: Problem with new repository In-Reply-To: <42C038D8.2030300@yahoo.com> References: <42C038D8.2030300@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506272012.38497.frode@lnix.net> Hi Ivan. Try to run 'sudo apt-get update' first. - Frode Mandag 27 juni 2005 19:35, skrev Ivan Low: > Hi, I was trying to add new repository as according to the following web > page http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/303802. But I got error message when I > start up the Synaptic. > > Error message: > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com > hoary/universe Packages > (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-p >owerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) > > Any idea why it does not work? > > Ivan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But I got error message when I >>start up the Synaptic. >> >>Error message: >> >>W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com >>hoary/universe Packages >>(/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-p >>owerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) >> >>Any idea why it does not work? >> >>Ivan >> >> From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 00:00:49 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:00:49 +0800 Subject: Mplayer does not play Message-ID: <42C09331.4000203@yahoo.com> Hi, any idea why mplayer in firefox only load the movie in quicktime movie web site to 99% and it just hang there if not close my browser. Did anybody experience this? Is this a discrepancy problem? Ivan From frode at lnix.net Tue Jun 28 00:27:43 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:27:43 +0200 Subject: Problem with new repository In-Reply-To: <42C04F31.5050100@yahoo.com> References: <42C038D8.2030300@yahoo.com> <200506272012.38497.frode@lnix.net> <42C04F31.5050100@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506280228.01490.frode@lnix.net> Mandag 27 juni 2005 21:10, skrev Ivan Low: > Hi, Frode > > Thank you for your reply. > The solution did help but I have a question to ask. > When I try to install koffice, I was told that the software can't be > authenticated. Do you think this is not secure? > > Ivan That's because the packages are not signed. It's known and I've suggested to add support for authentication to kubuntu.org debs. It's slightly less secure than with authentication and signed debs. But it's not directly dangerous either. - Frode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have installed koffice 1.4 from the repository: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice14 hoary-updates main but I cannot lounch kexi: ziogelis77 at pieva:~$ kexi bash: kexi: command not found ziogelis77 at pieva:~$ and I cannot find it either: ziogelis77 at pieva:~$ sudo apt-cache search kexi libkexif0 - KDE library to read/edit EXIF informations (runtime version) libkexif0-dev - KDE library to read/edit EXIF informations (development files) ziogelis77 at pieva:~$ Which repository should I add to install and run it correctly? -- Donatas Glodenis http://dgvirtual.kikilis.evs.lt From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 05:31:18 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:31:18 +0800 Subject: Link broken Message-ID: <42C0E0A6.9070003@yahoo.com> Hi, I was trying to locate the gmplayer but later I found out under file type there is a barket "link (broken)" Does anybody know what it mean? How can I fix the link? Ivan From visional_freeman at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 05:48:21 2005 From: visional_freeman at yahoo.com (Ivan Low) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:48:21 +0800 Subject: Error running xine Message-ID: <42C0E4A5.3050605@yahoo.com> Hi, I try to lunch xine from the command line and xine do start as usual but above it I saw this message: xiTK WARNING(xitk_font_load_font:734): XMB support seems broken on your system, add "font.xmb = 0" in your ~/.xitkrc The word "broken" seem very serious. Do I need to fix this problem? Ivan From opi at cyb3r.org Tue Jun 28 06:16:31 2005 From: opi at cyb3r.org (Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:16:31 +0200 Subject: Any database program? In-Reply-To: <200506280829.35827.ziogelis77@takas.lt> References: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200506242333.12571.waldbie@verizon.net> <200506280829.35827.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: <200506280816.31874.opi@cyb3r.org> On Tuesday 28 of June 2005 07:29, Donatas G. wrote: > ziogelis77 at pieva:~$ sudo apt-cache search kexi Just a minor notice, you don't have to sudo apt-cache. :-) -- Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski, http://bronikowski.com Monkey see, monkey do. Rather be dead than cool. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have just one more question where can I find an howto to configure my bluetooth dongle to work with a Nokia 6600 cell phone, is there any software you advice for kde similar to gnome-bluetooth etc. thanx in advance for your help. maurizio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 28 10:45:47 2005 From: j75trym at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:45:47 +0100 Subject: Any database program? References: <1119669710.5400.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200506242333.12571.waldbie@verizon.net> <200506280829.35827.ziogelis77@takas.lt> Message-ID: Donatas G. wrote: > 2005 m. Birželio 25 d., Šeštadienis 06:33, Carl rašė: > >> I believe the new KDE just out has a program called kexi that is >> supposed to be software along the lines of MS Access. > > I have a problem locating kexi. It's not available yet, see http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php Jim From support at bigriverinfotech.com Tue Jun 28 15:10:23 2005 From: support at bigriverinfotech.com (Raymond) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:10:23 +0000 Subject: Complete Kontact Backup and Restoration Message-ID: <200506281510.24875.support@bigriverinfotech.com> What is the process to backup the COMPLETE Kontact database (email, calendar, addresses, todo, etc.) for possible restoration. Raymond From piltdown at fastmail.fm Tue Jun 28 20:12:13 2005 From: piltdown at fastmail.fm (piltdown) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:12:13 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice - starting Message-ID: When Open Office starts (i.e. Writer) it appears to try and start a second instance of the program. After about 30 seconds the second instance disappears. Is their any way of stopping this? Thanks From thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk Tue Jun 28 21:54:14 2005 From: thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk (Thomas Olsen) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:54:14 +0200 Subject: svn+http(s) Message-ID: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> Hi I'm using kubuntu with great pleasure and often use the protocols in the subject. Now a friend of mine has installed kubuntu too but hasn't got these protocols installed. Can anyone tell me which package they are in? Thanks in advance. -- Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen From frode at lnix.net Tue Jun 28 22:35:27 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:35:27 +0200 Subject: svn+http(s) In-Reply-To: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> References: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> Message-ID: <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> Try to install the kdesdk-misc package. - Frode Tirsdag 28 juni 2005 23:54, skrev Thomas Olsen: > Hi > > I'm using kubuntu with great pleasure and often use the protocols in the > subject. Now a friend of mine has installed kubuntu too but hasn't got > these protocols installed. > Can anyone tell me which package they are in? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Med venlig hilsen > > Thomas Olsen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Either backup this entire directory, or pick out the apps you want the configs for. So if you put each of those directories/files in a file, (one on each line without the "~/" because tar doesn't do the "~" expansion so will complain that a literal directory called "~" doesn't exist). Call the file "kontact.backup" in your home directory, then you can do some "tar" magic like this: cd ~ tar -cf - -T ./knotact.backup | gzip - > knotact_backup-$(date +%Y%M%d).tgz When done, you'll have date-stamped file like "kontact_backup-20050629.tgz" with all your data in it :) This is begging for a cron job isn't it ;) To restore a backup, reverse the process: cd ~ tar -zxf kontact_backup-YYYYMMDD.tgz Make sure you go through ~/.kde/share/apps/ and find all the application components you use in Kontact. HTH, James -- And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what the dictionary says it means, you go to jail. No exceptions. -- David Jones From serg.belokamen at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 00:08:36 2005 From: serg.belokamen at gmail.com (Serg Belokamen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:08:36 +1000 Subject: svn+http(s) In-Reply-To: <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> References: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> Message-ID: <9f3bd88405062817082a7524d4@mail.gmail.com> You need Apache since Subversion (svn) is build using Apache framework and communicates via its own server facilities or like you mentioned HTTP. In case of HTTP, you will need WebDav and configure Apache accordingly. You will also need Apache WebDav module, etc... I will post more details when I get home (in 8-10 hours maybe). However I am not sure what you mean by protocols, do you want to communicate with Subversion repository so you can checkout files or do you want run a Subversion server? Being a bit more specific would help. Serg On 29/06/05, Frode M. Døving wrote: > > Try to install the kdesdk-misc package. > > - Frode > > Tirsdag 28 juni 2005 23:54, skrev Thomas Olsen: > > Hi > > > > I'm using kubuntu with great pleasure and often use the protocols in the > > subject. Now a friend of mine has installed kubuntu too but hasn't got > > these protocols installed. > > Can anyone tell me which package they are in? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Med venlig hilsen > > > > Thomas Olsen > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > From thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk Wed Jun 29 00:46:23 2005 From: thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:46:23 +0200 Subject: svn+http(s) In-Reply-To: <9f3bd88405062817082a7524d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> <9f3bd88405062817082a7524d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200506290246.24326.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> On Wednesday den 29. June 2005 02:08, Serg Belokamen wrote: > You need Apache since Subversion (svn) is build using Apache framework > and communicates via its own server facilities or like you mentioned > HTTP. In case of HTTP, you will need WebDav and configure Apache > accordingly. You will also need Apache WebDav module, etc... I will > post more details when I get home (in 8-10 hours maybe). However I am > not sure what you mean by protocols, do you want to communicate with > Subversion repository so you can checkout files or do you want run a > Subversion server? > > Being a bit more specific would help. > Sorry - I was meaning the kde kio-slave svn+http where you can access an svn repository from konqueror using e.g. the url svn+http://svn.somewhere.org/ -- Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen From thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk Wed Jun 29 00:48:16 2005 From: thomas_tanghus_olsen at yahoo.dk (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:48:16 +0200 Subject: svn+http(s) In-Reply-To: <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> References: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> Message-ID: <200506290248.16173.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> On Wednesday den 29. June 2005 00:35, Frode M. Døving wrote: > Try to install the kdesdk-misc package. > > - Frode > > Tirsdag 28 juni 2005 23:54, skrev Thomas Olsen: > > Hi > > > > I'm using kubuntu with great pleasure and often use the protocols in the > > subject. Now a friend of mine has installed kubuntu too but hasn't got > > these protocols installed. Thanks. I'll cc your mail to him and see if the protocols appears :-) -- Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen From serg.belokamen at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 01:01:10 2005 From: serg.belokamen at gmail.com (Serg Belokamen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:01:10 +1000 Subject: svn+http(s) In-Reply-To: <200506290246.24326.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> References: <200506282354.14299.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> <200506290035.41794.frode@lnix.net> <9f3bd88405062817082a7524d4@mail.gmail.com> <200506290246.24326.thomas_tanghus_olsen@yahoo.dk> Message-ID: <9f3bd88405062818017750ad0b@mail.gmail.com> Oh, no idea then.... I access it via console (svn checkout ...) or using RapidSVN or eSVN or similar. On 29/06/05, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Wednesday den 29. June 2005 02:08, Serg Belokamen wrote: > > You need Apache since Subversion (svn) is build using Apache framework > > and communicates via its own server facilities or like you mentioned > > HTTP. In case of HTTP, you will need WebDav and configure Apache > > accordingly. You will also need Apache WebDav module, etc... I will > > post more details when I get home (in 8-10 hours maybe). However I am > > not sure what you mean by protocols, do you want to communicate with > > Subversion repository so you can checkout files or do you want run a > > Subversion server? > > > > Being a bit more specific would help. > > > > Sorry - I was meaning the kde kio-slave svn+http where you can access an svn > repository from konqueror using e.g. the url svn+http://svn.somewhere.org/ > > -- > Med venlig hilsen > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk Wed Jun 29 08:42:17 2005 From: ben.hayes at bjconsultancy.co.uk (Ben Hayes) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:42:17 +0100 Subject: Complete Kontact Backup and Restoration In-Reply-To: <200506290925.38658.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <200506281510.24875.support@bigriverinfotech.com> <200506290925.38658.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <200506290942.18238.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> James On Wednesday 29 June 2005 00:25, James Gray wrote: > > ~/Mail - kmail folders etc. > ~/.kde/share/apps/kaddressbook - address book data > ~/.kde/share/apps/knode - knode (Usenet) data > ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet - KWallet, this is where passwords are stored > etc. ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer - Calendar etc. > ~/.kde/share/config/ - contains the configs for all/most KDE components. > Either backup this entire directory, or pick out the apps you want the > configs for. > > So if you put each of those directories/files in a file, (one on each line > without the "~/" because tar doesn't do the "~" expansion so will complain > that a literal directory called "~" doesn't exist). Call the file > "kontact.backup" in your home directory, then you can do some "tar" magic > like this: > > cd ~ > tar -cf - -T ./knotact.backup | gzip - > knotact_backup-$(date +%Y%M%d).tgz > > When done, you'll have date-stamped file like "kontact_backup-20050629.tgz" > with all your data in it :) This is begging for a cron job isn't it ;) > > To restore a backup, reverse the process: > > cd ~ > tar -zxf kontact_backup-YYYYMMDD.tgz I've often wondered where all the data was and how to go about backing it up myself. Thanks for the info here my friend! Ben From jgomezdans at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 09:15:46 2005 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:15:46 +0200 Subject: Complete Kontact Backup and Restoration In-Reply-To: <200506290942.18238.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> References: <200506281510.24875.support@bigriverinfotech.com> <200506290925.38658.james@grayonline.id.au> <200506290942.18238.ben.hayes@bjconsultancy.co.uk> Message-ID: <91d21843050629021543814ade@mail.gmail.com> On Kontact information storage, it is interesting to note that if you have an IMAP account, you can store your contacts, calendar and so on the IMAP server and retrieve it as needed. In this fashion, you can have the same updated contacts list on both laptop and desktop. I find this really useful. Information on this on: . Unfortunately, I cannot find a visual guide which was published in Spanish detaiilng how to this with KDE 3.1 or somesuch. Jose From bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 29 16:52:23 2005 From: bs_wm at yahoo.co.uk (Bobby Singh) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:52:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Is this old-hat, speeding up firefox? Message-ID: <20050629165224.83340.qmail@web26505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello, Maybe all of you know this but if you use firefox you can speed up surfing by changing the following: browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs = true browser.xul.error_pages.enabled = true network.dns.disableIPv6 = true network.http.max-connections 48 network.http.max-connections-per-server 24 network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy 12 network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server 6 network.http.pipelining = true network.http.pipelining.maxrequests 32 Now i have done the above and it does work. Why can't firefox come default like above anyway? Is security being comprimised by doing the above? Is it using more cpu/memory better? Cheers Bob ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From jago25 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 18:26:15 2005 From: jago25 at gmail.com (Jago Pearce) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:26:15 +0100 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems Message-ID: Ah ha! Struck gold in the mailing list archives! When I copy something off CD my GUI and everything slows down. What should my /etc/modules look like? Also: I notice that CPU cycle management is awful and odd too. If a program such as edonkey or DirectConnect starts hashing MD5 sums everything starts to crawl. Even renice'ing these programs to a low priority (such as 16) doesn't help. Nor does increasing the priority of X to -1. Have the Ubuntu team tried to speed X/GUI somehow and inadvertently allowed CPU intensive graphical apps to run away with cycles? From chris at deadhand.com Wed Jun 29 19:37:41 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:37:41 +0200 Subject: Unable to enable DMA on some AMD systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200506292137.41553.chris@deadhand.com> Am Mittwoch 29 Juni 2005 20:26 schrieb Jago Pearce: > Ah ha! Struck gold in the mailing list archives! > > When I copy something off CD my GUI and everything slows down. > > What should my /etc/modules look like? > That depends on what motherboard / chipset you are using. In any case you should make sure that the module that's used by your chipset is on top of /etc/modules This module *might* be called "via82cxxx" or "amd74xx" on AMD systems. Check which modules are loaded. lsmod | grep ide_core Should give you among others the vendor specific module you need to know. > Also: > > I notice that CPU cycle management is awful and odd too. If a program > such as edonkey or DirectConnect starts hashing MD5 sums everything > starts to crawl. Even renice'ing these programs to a low priority > (such as 16) doesn't help. Nor does increasing the priority of X to > -1. > > Have the Ubuntu team tried to speed X/GUI somehow and inadvertently > allowed CPU intensive graphical apps to run away with cycles? What you describe here sounds pretty much like what's happening with my system as well. I've got these annoying slowdowns - just don't know what to do anymore, or how to 'reliably reproduce' it to ask for help more precisely... Chris From infotechsys at pivot.net Sun Jun 26 17:38:54 2005 From: infotechsys at pivot.net (wayne) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:38:54 -0400 Subject: Apache and PHP4 Message-ID: <1119807534.7171.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm using Hoary. I change my httpd.conf to add support for php4 by using the directives, LoadModule libexec/libphp4.so AddModule mod_php4.c AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php4 When I restart the apache server I get an error the /etc/apache/libexec/libphp4.so can not be found.After I did a "find" on libexec the results pointed me to /usr/lib/php4/libexec, but there is nothing in this directory. I then did a find on libphp4.so and got the results, /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so. If I installed Apache-1.3 why do I see bits and pieces of Apache2? Last question, the directory that Apache is trying to, /etc/apache/libexec, doesn't even exist.Where should libphp4.so go? Thanks From infotechsys at pivot.net Tue Jun 28 15:37:00 2005 From: infotechsys at pivot.net (wayne) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:37:00 -0400 Subject: Problem with Apache2. Message-ID: <1119973020.22348.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm running ubuntu's Hoary system and I recently went to Apache2. I used Synaptic to completely remove Apache and PHP4.By completely, I mean I selected the option in Synaptic to remove the scripts also. The problem I'm having is that it still appears that I have some of the old Apache system around.In my current Apache config file, which is now called "apache2.conf", I have no DocumentRoot directive, yet when I try to run the sample php4 script to test if thing got install properly, I get an error in my error.log that /var/www file cannot be found. This was the value assign to my old DocumentRoot directive. I tried searching the net to see if I should add this directive, DocumentRoot, to my config file, but nothing was found.I'm not sure if Debian meet to leave this out.Also, why is Apache2 looking for /var/www when this value is not in my current config file? Thanks From rblists at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 07:47:50 2005 From: rblists at gmail.com (Raphael Bauduin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:47:50 +0200 Subject: BIG problems, data loss Message-ID: I have just lost my korganizer data, with all appointments in it. the standard.ics I see is from 23rd may..... I am _sure_ I saved it between 23 may and now...... When trying to add an appointment in korganizer, it complains: "No resource available". Any idea? If this is a problem with the software, let me tell you I am really annoyed :(( Raph From rblists at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 09:46:52 2005 From: rblists at gmail.com (Raphael Bauduin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:46:52 +0200 Subject: BIG problems, data loss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/30/05, Raphael Bauduin wrote: > I have just lost my korganizer data, with all appointments in it. the > standard.ics I see is from 23rd may..... I am _sure_ I saved it > between 23 may and now...... > When trying to add an appointment in korganizer, it complains: "No > resource available". > > Any idea? I have an idea ;-) Some time ago, I had problems with the disk on which my kubuntu was installed, and I rsynced it to another partition on another disk (in the same machine). I edited menu.lst for grub, but it seems I had not run grub-install to actually change the partition on which grub should read the menu.lst. So when I rebooted yesterday, I bnooted on my old system...... I have now back calendar back .... Raph > > If this is a problem with the software, let me tell you I am really annoyed :(( > > > Raph > From edulix at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 11:44:24 2005 From: edulix at gmail.com (Eduardo Robles Elvira) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:44:24 +0200 Subject: Is this old-hat, speeding up firefox? In-Reply-To: <20050629165224.83340.qmail@web26505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050629165224.83340.qmail@web26505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200506301344.24602.edulix@gmail.com> El Miércoles 29 Junio 2005 18:52, Bobby Singh escribió: > Hello, > > Maybe all of you know this but if you use firefox you > can speed up surfing by changing the following: > > browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs = true > browser.xul.error_pages.enabled = true > network.dns.disableIPv6 = true > network.http.max-connections 48 > network.http.max-connections-per-server 24 > network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy 12 > network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server 6 > network.http.pipelining = true > network.http.pipelining.maxrequests 32 > > Now i have done the above and it does work. Why can't > firefox come default like above anyway? > Is security being comprimised by doing the above? > Is it using more cpu/memory better? Some of those settings might be good for the user in a first glance, but in the long run they're evil. They permit tghe browser to make many connections to the web servers, and if everyone did that, they would collapse easily. Thus, it works faster onlyh if a few people do that (which is the case). > > Cheers > > Bob > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday > snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From frode at lnix.net Thu Jun 30 14:50:38 2005 From: frode at lnix.net (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:50:38 +0200 Subject: where is KDE 3.4.1 for amd64???? In-Reply-To: <200506271534.09365.frode@lnix.net> References: <200506221500.44222.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> <200506271534.09365.frode@lnix.net> Message-ID: <200506301650.52812.frode@lnix.net> Hi AMD64 packages for KDE 3.4.1 and Koffice 1.4 are now available at kubuntu.org sources.list entries: # KDE 3.4.1 deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main # Koffice 1.4 deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice14 hoary-updates main - Frode / uniq @ freenode Mandag 27 juni 2005 15:34, skrev Frode M. Døving: > Onsdag 22 juni 2005 15:06, skrev Peter Shillan: > > Hi Domi, > > > > On 6/22/05, Scido wrote: > > > Maybe I'll be annoying you, but I really don't understand why, after a > > > mounth, there isn't the kde 3.4.1 packages for amd64 arch. Now It's out > > > koffice1.4, will it be the same? Is there any problem? doesn't they > > > compile on amd64 PCs? Please tell us how much time you need, if you > > > need help or other... > > > > I have asked this question twice now and still not received an answer. > > If anyone does let you know off-list, I would appreciate you passing > > that answer on to me. > > [snip] > > I'm working on packages for amd64 now. Sorry it's this late. > Our amd64-compile-guy has been very busy lately. > Note that theese are not official ubuntu packages. They are more like > semi-official kubuntu.org packages. That's why we can't use the ubuntu > compile-farm to compile the packages. > > KDE 3.4.1 is almost done (missing kdevelop and updated kdepim (closing > #8221). koffice is next on my priority list. > > I'll post a message to this list when KDE 3.4.1 is ready for download. > And another one when koffice 1.4 is ready. > > - Frode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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