I know there has been work done on KWallet for it's move to KF5 but I've not even seen a prompt about it in quite awhile on my machine so I can't say it's current state. It's an upstream project like 98% of the stuff in Kubuntu. The bug tracker and KDE phab might the best places to look at it's current state. Bugs: <a href="http://bugs.kde.org">bugs.kde.org</a> Phab: <a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/">https://phabricator.kde.org/</a> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 31, 2017, 11:54 PM Brian Cluff <<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com">brian@snaptek.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm sure this isn't the most correct place to post this, but perhaps it could make it's way to the correct person. I've put Kubuntu on 10s of thousands of machines over the years and a very common problem that I run into is with the KDE wallet system. I meant to write in with this suggestion years ago, but it got out of site, out of mind. However I just did a little tech support for someone that was very very angry about the situation, so I thought I should finally say something (better late than never). So the problem is that when you first login it tells you set a password for the wallet, but it doesn't really give you any of the implications of setting that password so it then becomes a giant annoyance to those that don't care about protecting their passwords and just want their system to leave them alone. So my thoughts are that without changing the wallet system itself perhaps a different initial setup could be created that briefly tells you what the wallet does and then asks you to pick from 3 levels of security for the wallet such as: Low security: Just store my passwords in the wallet without a password Medium security: Set a password for your web passwords but keep the local passwords without a password so your wifi "just works" High security: Set a password for all passwords in the wallet Only the second and third option would prompt for a password. I suppose you could have a 4th option to not use the wallet at all, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. I believe that simple change would keep people not only more educated about what the wallet is, but will make them happier with KDE in the long run... (and keep people from yelling at me in the future <grin>) Thanks for reading my rant, Brian Cluff -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">-- </div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Aaron Honeycutt - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead - Kubuntu Council Member </div>