<div dir="ltr">First, I think everybody's opinion matters, and as a tribal elder (not sure you want that title), yours especially matters.<div>Kubuntu has been pretty vanilla KDE, and, on balance, I have considered its fidelity to the KDE developers' vision (when practical) to be a strength.</div><div>Maybe a compromise is to go back having a folder on the default activity and put a launcher to the Welcome there, or a launcher to the Welcome in the favorites on the Kicker Application Launcher (my preference).</div><div> <div>As far as wanting to understand the historical background before changing a practice, that is a good idea in general. See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence</a></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Scott Kitterman <<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com" target="_blank">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In case I wasn't clear: I think my opinion should have zero weight on this. I only wanted to pass on the historical background. Scott K <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 01:16:01 PM Clive Johnston wrote: > ah I was unaware this was a policy. > > The discussion was about how to engage more with our users and to try and > get more people to contribute. It was pointed out how Linux Mint do it and > it might be a factor in how they seem to be very successful at creating and > sustaining a community (#1 on <a href="http://distrowatch.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/</a>) . > > I do feel that Kubuntu is in a different place now to when the policy was > originally drawn up, but I'm not going to waste time on something no-one > wants. > > Thanks for your feedback, > Clive > > On Thursday, 10 November 2016 01:53:04 GMT Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 09, 2016 08:27:23 PM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Clay Weber <<a href="mailto:clay@claydoh.com">clay@claydoh.com</a>> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:00:48 AM EST Clive Johnston wrote: > > > >> There was some discussion at the end of Yakkety Yak, about maybe > > > >> following > > > >> the lead of Linux Mint and having a welcome screen on first run which > > > >> would > > > >> act as a signpost to resources and places to get help or how to > > > >> contribute. I personally like this idea and decided to look into it. > > > >> > > > >> I grabbing the code and hacked a bit to basically make it more > > > >> Kubuntu > > > >> branded and pointing to our resources. So this is were I am up to. > > > >> > > > >> <a href="https://s16.postimg.org/jngn4afb9/Kubuntu_Welcome.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://s16.postimg.org/jngn4afb9/Kubuntu_Welcome.png</a> > > > >> > > > >> What do you guys think? Do you like the idea? > > > >> > > > >> Clive > > > > > > > > Kubuntu has historically refrained from having these pop up and > > > > first-run > > > > items, and I do not see a reason to change from this policy. > > > > > > > > However, having content that appears in the default Folder View plasma > > > > widget would be a perfect place for this. > > > > > > > > If this sort of item is ever to be added, then really is should be > > > > written > > > > in qml :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Clay Weber > > > > > > Hi Clay, I don't recall discussion of providing something like this, > > > in the past. Can you recall when it was discussed, and why it was > > > decided against? > > > > > > In my opinion, the past is one data point. I'd like to see reasons for > > > and against. I see: > > > > > > Pro - increases our branding, points to help and also to ways to grow > > > the community > > > > > > Con - it is one more thing we need to maintain > > > > Jonathan was extremely anti first-run dialogues since I got involved in > > the > > project. You all are, of course, free to change it, but AFAIK, Kubuntu > > has > > been no first-run since ~the beginning. Personally, I've always liked > > that. > > > > Scott K -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>