<div dir="ltr">For 17.04 I'd like to get the Driver Manager fixed and pushed into SRU's for 16.10 and 16.04 (most importantly) @All. As well as push the .1 release to the docs onto the doc website @Philip.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Xen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:list@xenhideout.nl" target="_blank">list@xenhideout.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Simon Quigley schreef op 05-10-2016 3:15:<span class=""><br>
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Hello Clive,<br>
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On 10/03/2016 06:26 AM, Clive Johnston wrote:<br>
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In my honest opinion you are "jumping the gun" on this. ZZ isn't even a thing<br>
until Mr Shuttleworth chooses a name and the archive is opened for it.<br>
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Ok, I guess we are coming at it from different angles here. I want to<br>
start planning for Z as soon as we have the ability to start working on<br>
it. I would much rather get a bunch of planning done at the beginning of<br>
the cycle to ensure we all know what goals we have for this cycle and<br>
any updated procedures we might have.<br>
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So from now until the 13th of October, lets concentrate on getting Yakkety Yak<br>
out the door, by testing and getting issues fixed. Even when YY ships, bugs<br>
will roll in, so we need to be actively working on this. We have lots of time<br>
to plan for +1 when things settle down after YY release.<br>
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This is why I planned the meeting to be that Friday or that weekend. I<br>
honestly agree with you on that. Let's get Yakkety out the door. But<br>
once Z is open, I'd like to make sure we can get a grip on it early.<br>
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You see where I'm coming from here, Clive?<br>
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Just an unimportant opinion here but I observed the same sentiment when 15.04 was released and back then someone told me that someone for a paid job like mr. Riddell was could hardly be expected to "sit on his laurels" not doing work.<br>
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If you are doing too many things you cannot do any of them really right.<br>
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I feel you are working too hard. Doing too many things but then not having enough time for the individual things you have done.<br>
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The feeling is that all of these releasese are unfinished and as a consequence there are too many of them. So back when 15.04 was released and /instantly/ people focussed their /entire attention/ on 15.10 I observed the same thing and was rebuted with the very same arguments of needing to plan ahead.<br>
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You don't even take the time to appreciate what you've done, for a certain sense of the word.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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