Unfortunately I agree.<div>I'm nothing but an end user that has used dev version of kubuntu since about 6 years. There's been problems and I've reported and helped along a few bugs. </div><div>I'm stoked about wayland, if it can bring all the things it promises to bring.</div>
<div>I'm stoked about mir (xmir), if it can bring all the things it promises to bring.</div><div>The most recent annoying bug is it seems the kubuntu devs have given up on kubuntu before really giving it a chance, whatever happens down the road. I read the kubuntu devs fussing about Mir, I read Ubuntu devs reaching out to try and help as much as they can, only to read more fussing about it. I don't know coding and I certainly don't know coding from the intricate level of xserver. I only know how to report bugs, and do very minor trouble shooting. I also know no other linux distro gives me everything I want and need all in one package as well as kubuntu. I've tried many of the other distros and I just feel at home with kubuntu.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But right now as a very happy end user of kubuntu, I have begun to search for something even remotely close to call home (which I am not finding btw) just because of all the turmoil goings on at the dev level because of Mir (or because of fear of Mir). I wish I could code and I would be right in there with both hands but alas I cannot. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I sincerely hope something gets worked out, kubuntu rocks and the kubuntu devs rock for all the work they do and have done. </div><div><br></div><div>My 2 cents.</div><div>-Dale<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Ma Xiaojun <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:damage3025@gmail.com" target="_blank">damage3025@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Recent messages from Kubuntu devs have been increasingly annoying.<br>
<br>
They constantly complain about uncertainty caused by Mir. Well, it's<br>
reasonable. But the problem is that no single piece of concrete<br>
research is done or published. Have they measured performance degrade?<br>
Have they observed unexpected crash? Have they reported bugs /<br>
contacted Mir devs thereafter?<br>
<br>
They seem to believe in Wayland. That's absolutely fine. And then they<br>
repeat " And maintaining Wayland in the ubuntu archives will be<br>
fiddly, even if it is mostly a sync from Debian." whining. Well, Sir,<br>
if you have no confidence maintaining a handful of packages, why are<br>
you maintaining a distro spin?<br>
<br>
Given the current small manpower of Kubuntu and the staff's<br>
unhappiness with Canonical. I feel that declaring Kubuntu orphaned is<br>
a pretty good option. Most end users are uninformed, after all.<br>
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