Finally someone else nitced it! Here's what i propose: -change the default /home folder icons (music, doc, etc) -add avatar and wifi connecting support to installer -add KDEWEB accounts, run it on the first kubuntu start after installation -add notification-helper for kipi plugins (first gwenview start) - add default wallpaper package or atleast a few cool ones -improve lightdm default them: move system buttons to center, use monochromatic icons, 48x48 -switch to chrome/chromium. All new to kubuntu people ask about chrome/firefox. It's best browser anyway ;) -finally fix or remove the sharing KCM form systemsetings. Why is this thing stuck for so long?! -make user configuration USER FRIENDLY! Let it be a KCM not a standalone app. This sucks ;) <div class="gmail_quote">23 sty 2013 02:33, "AG Alex" <<a href="mailto:alex@alexgrafic.it">alex@alexgrafic.it</a>> napisał(a): <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi everyone, I'm a new member with few years of experience using Kubuntu..., please be patient with my English, I'm still working on it.... I'm writing to talk about Users First Experience improvement in Kubuntu, which is not the best we can do at moment especially for First Time Users, in my opinion of course. The current default configuration of Kubuntu (until 12.10) seems to be targeting just experienced users, which once installed a new system doesn't have any problem to build its own environment around its needs, but they wouldn't have any problem to do it even with a much more full functionality default configuration, while for a new user of Kubuntu it will be impossible even to simply imagine the powerful of the KDE environment with current default settings. So why don't we change the target of the default settings to aim the Newbbie needs instead of experienced users, they can anyway customize and set up everything they need in few steps. I mean, a bit of "sacrifice" for experienced user could become something really helpful for New Users. Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice during the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways, one could be"Minimal Basic Functionality" (for experienced Users), other could be "Fully Functionality Mode" (to show the real power of KDE) , other again could be a kind of "Learning Mode" where in my opinion Activities can become very helpful, and so on..... But I'm not a developer and maybe it's impossible to do it, or maybe it will be possible just having a much more centralized configuration system, where would be really nice to have a set of tools to export and share any aspect of any single part of of the DE configuration (but maybe in other post we can talk about it). Talking about New Default Settings optimized for first time Users, involves of course few different aspects like default packages installed, default desktop environment include plasma and plasmoids, and than default activities where to show many different aspect of KDE functionality combined with the best applications of Kubuntu repositories. <big>Default Packages:</big> In my opinion there are few change to do on default installed packages, simply because some application are not ready yet to be used, or in some other case, very useful tool are not installed by default. Applications: <blockquote>Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a "not ready yet software" as a default application, especially because we are talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90% daily use of computer for most of the people out there. I know, there is an installer launcher of Firefox and it's really simple to use, but in my opinion after hours of installation in some case, is really disarming do another installation and write password , simply to surfing the web in a reasonable way, isn't ? I mean, there are few great software out there, are open source, stable, powerful, already on repository, every day more used......, why don't use one of it by default. Are we sure the best solution is to propose a not ready yet software to do the job ?, even because in my case it means to have any link clicked in Thunderbird opened in Rekonq , even if I change the default browser on system settings to use chromium (it seems to works just if is already opened). Dragon Player, is a good player but maybe there are some other great software like vlc already in repositories, which can gives to the users a much more complete and powerful solution to play with multimedia contents, and I'm pretty sure vlc is one of the first installation "extra" once complete the Kubuntu one, for many users. Talking about Utility, there are few nice utility right on the repository that could be installed by default, and for utility like Ksnapshot already installed would be much better to use a launcher on some panel, where would be nice as well to have some software to screencast the desktop, or even nice tools and some time essentials (depending on your job type), like Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect and so on..... I mean they are really small and so essential tools in some cases that really makes the difference. We want talk about Yakuake ?, I think there isn't better way to always have as much konsole instances as you need in a practice and nice way, and for new people, would be the easiest way possible to access the konsole when asking support on IRC and someone of us will say "..ok just pass those commands on the konsole.." just pressing F12 in the default Yakuake installation. </blockquote> Plasmoids: <blockquote>There are many good and useful plasmoids on repository, which can be very handy to gives a much more complete idea of what actually can be done in Plasma. Just to mention few of them Quick Access should be much more used on default desktop in my opinion, pointing for example on Document, Images, Videos, Music and Download folders, using few instances of it. Another interesting plasmoid to show could be translatoid , which is a really useful tool when multilanguage contents is your daily works. A calcuator, a converter, and everything can gives a better ideas about what can be done in plasma in a quick and easy way. </blockquote> Activities: <blockquote>Actitivities presets should be based only on application already installed by default, and to have some basic example of content in some cases can be much more comfortable to immediately understand the purpose of an activity. Activities presets with example contents, can be used as well for a kind of teaching purpose, well I guess some basic note or even few html pages to explain something visualized in plasmoids like Web Browser, next to the applications you want to teach opened with example already loaded, would be easier for anyone willing to learn any kind of knowledge. </blockquote> Functionality: <blockquote>I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled like rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be very useful if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking about buttons on the window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep Above Others", and I'm quite sure most of the new user not even knows it can be done, instead once is there it's really easy to understand how and when to use it. Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by default is the ability to change the transparency of a window just pressing ALT and rolling the mouse wheel. </blockquote> I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the job I'm talking about if well equipped with plasmoid and applications launcher, and would be very easy to remove for the people don't like or don't need it, you don't think so ?. And if using Activities even the top panel (with plasmoids and launcher) could be combined with opened applications and desktop plasmoids for any Activities , would even be funny to create Activities to do tasks complete of documentation, example and so on....., nicely managed with plasmoids in a kind of "tematic top panel". To gives you an idea about how I'm used to work in Kubuntu, here <a href="http://www.alexgrafic.it/images/examples/myDesk.jpg" target="_blank">an example of my current desktop</a> , which maybe is to much customized respect the <a href="http://www.alexgrafic.it/images/examples/defaultDesk.jpg" target="_blank">default one</a>, but maybe something in between could be the right solution for the default configuration of Kubuntu. Well, I think to be my first post on this mailing list I already wrote too much, but hopefully I could make you understand why I consider so important the first impact arriving on a completely new Operating System, especially if the system we are talking about has a lot of great and useful features to be showed. I hope so because the current default settings of Kubuntu does not express so much of the KDE + Ubuntu combination potentiality, like instead should be in my opinion. I hope I haven't bored you, and that do you agree with some of my idea to improve the first Kubuntu experience, and if so , we can talk about it as deeply as we needs. Thanks for reading me, and much more for the amazing work you always did keeping Kubuntu alive.... Alex </div> -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>