I understand that libreoffice and openoffice are still easily installable. But the push to default to something that doesn't support ms.office isn't good. Add me to the list of thinking its not a good idea. I read sometime ago that those working on calligra had no interest in adding support for msoffice. I think this will lead to a lot of first time installs losing favor quickly, especially for students and office workers. <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 22, 2012 12:14 PM, "David Edmundson" <<a href="mailto:david@davidedmundson.co.uk">david@davidedmundson.co.uk</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Harald Sitter <<a href="mailto:apachelogger@ubuntu.com">apachelogger@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jonathan Riddell <<a href="mailto:jriddell@ubuntu.com">jriddell@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >> kopete -> kde-telepathy - it's maintained > > do we have 0.4 in the archive yet? also do we have a precise PPA for > that? IIRC part of our agreement with upstream was to pull off a good > pre-release testing process to ensure the best possible user > experience. > >> kdm -> lightdm - likewise > > someone push that upstream plz, makes sense to have the plasma > workspace drop unmaintained kdm in favor of lightdm which *actually* > uses plasma :P > I'm doing that :D It came up a few times at the KDE Workspace sprint recently. Response was very positive there. Last time it was pushed it got a response along the lines of "Canonical blah blah blah blah.." but it's more mature now and times have changed (hopefully). I'm going to be making a release of 0.2.0 this weekend ready for the new Alpha. Feedback from you (Kubuntu) would be great, then I'll bump the KDE mailing lists again. Dave On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Felix Geyer <<a href="mailto:debfx@ubuntu.com">debfx@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >> kdm -> lightdm - likewise > > Imho lightdm-kde still has critical bugs that make it unfit for Kubuntu > so I would have waited until they are addressed. Really? My bugzilla list is here: <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=131553&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=lightdm" target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=131553&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=lightdm</a> There's only two things in that list I consider critical and both of those are very nearly complete. Please, please add anything that's not there as otherwise I obviously won't fix it. Mark anything "critical" as such in bugzilla and I will make them a top priority. Dave -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>