how would this be fixed for kmail anyway? <blockquote type="cite">2009 9 30 16:21 schrieb am "Scott Kitterman" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>>: It was my understanding from the last Kubuntu meeting that the decision was the we would provide the message indicator widget on the panel by default because there are non-KDE apps in the repository that have been patched to unconditionally expect and indicator to be present, but that we would not enable indicator support in Kubuntu desktop apps and let users opt-in. I am checking this because at least Kmail defaults to on (even for upgrades). See <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/439333" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/439333</a> Before I 'fix' this, I wanted to check and make sure my understanding of the decision was correct. Scott K -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote>