Kubuntu 17.04 Planning Meeting

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Simon Quigley schreef op 05-10-2016 3:15:
> Hello Clive,
> 
> On 10/03/2016 06:26 AM, Clive Johnston wrote:
>> In my honest opinion you are "jumping the gun" on this.  ZZ isn't even 
>> a thing
>> until Mr Shuttleworth chooses a name and the archive is opened for it.
> 
> Ok, I guess we are coming at it from different angles here. I want to
> start planning for Z as soon as we have the ability to start working on
> it. I would much rather get a bunch of planning done at the beginning 
> of
> the cycle to ensure we all know what goals we have for this cycle and
> any updated procedures we might have.
> 
>> So from now until the 13th of October, lets concentrate on getting 
>> Yakkety Yak
>> out the door, by testing and getting issues fixed.  Even when YY 
>> ships, bugs
>> will roll in, so we need to be actively working on this.  We have lots 
>> of time
>> to plan for +1 when things settle down after YY release.
> 
> This is why I planned the meeting to be that Friday or that weekend. I
> honestly agree with you on that. Let's get Yakkety out the door. But
> once Z is open, I'd like to make sure we can get a grip on it early.
> 
> You see where I'm coming from here, Clive?

Just an unimportant opinion here but I observed the same sentiment when 
15.04 was released and back then someone told me that someone for a paid 
job like mr. Riddell was could hardly be expected to "sit on his 
laurels" not doing work.

If you are doing too many things you cannot do any of them really right.

I feel you are working too hard. Doing too many things but then not 
having enough time for the individual things you have done.

The feeling is that all of these releasese are unfinished and as a 
consequence there are too many of them. So back when 15.04 was released 
and /instantly/ people focussed their /entire attention/ on 15.10 I 
observed the same thing and was rebuted with the very same arguments of 
needing to plan ahead.

You don't even take the time to appreciate what you've done, for a 
certain sense of the word.