kf5 5.7 utopic backports saga

[Valorie Zimmerman]

I ask again:

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
<valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Harald Sitter <sitter at kde.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
>> <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Harald Sitter <sitter at kde.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
>>>> <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Harald Sitter <sitter at kde.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
>>>>>> <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Harald Sitter <sitter at kde.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:13:37AM -0800, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > writing the status here before we forget it..
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > scarlett kindy did the backports of kf5 into utopic using the kubuntu-ninjas
>>>>>>>>>> > PPA (after some faff failing to get the kubuntu-next/staging ppa to accept
>>>>>>>>>> > them)
>>>>>>>>>> > they were copied to kubuntu-ppa/next but then we had reports of them causing
>>>>>>>>>> > failed upgrades so they were deleted
>>>>>>>>>> > I tidied up the backport of kglobalaccel which was breaking the upgrades
>>>>>>>>>> > Now when I try to copy them over to kubuntu-ppa/next it complains there is
>>>>>>>>>> > already that version of the package in kubuntu-ppa/next even though there is
>>>>>>>>>> > not
...
>>>>>>>>>> > Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are we actually supporting next and next-backports for 14.10? My
>>>>>>>>>> broken system makes it appear that we are not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that we remove the notice about those in the KDE wiki, and
>>>>>>>>>> suggest people either use one of the ISOs for 14.10 or install Beta 1
>>>>>>>>>> Vivid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've never had an upgrade leave me unable to login to KDE before. Not
>>>>>>>>>> a good experience. I know that the next and next-backports are testing
>>>>>>>>>> material, so I was fairly warned. But we've run out of time to support
>>>>>>>>>> them, so let's cut our losses and put our energy into Vivid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This sounds like a realistic idea to me.  We don't seem to have the
>>>>>>>>> energy needed for a kf5 backport, we've said there won't be an upgrade
>>>>>>>>> root for 14.10 plasma5 to 15.04, so we'd be perfectly ok it's just a
>>>>>>>>> tech preview and it won't get any better.

::big snip::

> For now, shall I remove all advice to use next in
> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu which is where we
> always point people?
>
> That wiki page should be prominent in our
> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu space, I'm thinking.
>
> Since this is a matter of policy, can the rest of the council speak up please?

Valorie