Ktorrent Status/Replacement

[Scarlett Clark]

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:21:41 AM Ralph Janke wrote:
> On 2014-11-20 09:34, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:17:33 PM Harald Sitter wrote:
> >>> fwiw if only we had a policy to deal with dead upstreams....
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Kitterman
> >>> <ubuntu at kitterman.com>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> > Ktorrent is the current default torrent client that we provide in
> >>> > Kubuntu.
> >>> > Now that we've transitioned to Plasma 5, it's no longer
> >>> > buildable/installable in "Vivid".
> >>> > 
> >>> > The upstream web site is down: http://ktorrent.org/
> >>> 
> >>> ^ that wouldn't be the qualifier on whether it suffers from dead
> >>> upstream
> >>> 
> >>> > I looked in KDE git and there's no sign of a KF5/Plasma 5 port:
> >>> > https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/repositor
> >>> > y
> >>> 
> >>> ^ that wouldn't either
> >>> 
> >>> > My conclusion is that ktorrent isn't an option for Vivid, so we either
> >>> > need to stop shipping a torrent client or pick a different one.
> >>> 
> >>> ^ those wouldn't be the primary options
> >>> 
> >>> food for thought
> >> 
> >> JR fixed it, so it's not an immediate issue.
> >> 
> >> IMO it wasn't so much a dead upstream issue as a no longer works with
> >> Plasma 5
> >> issue.  The dead upstream just made that less likely to get better on
> >> its own.
> > 
> > my point is that there is no dead upstream, as no one tried to talk to
> > upstream (nor brought it to the attention of the large kde developer
> > community).

> 
> The question is IMHO if you could ever consider an upstream dead. By
> definition
> this would mean that it would never become alive again. However, in Open
> Source,
> anybody can pick up the source and so a new group of people can take
> over the
> maintenance without anybody else being able to prevent it.
> 
> So I would rephrase this question. How would you consider that a source
> is
> obsolete in the sense that there is a better one the replaces the first
> one
> and it does not make sense to put any kind of work in it anymore. Or, if
> it
> is still a valid choice, how to create the helpful flow of information
> that
> allows people to step forward to keep it maintained.

Just an FYI Ktorrent is next on the Gardening team to do. We were able to get 
a new release with k3b and sparked new life into it. Please don't deem 
Ktorrent dead just yet.
Scarlett


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Scarlett Clark
Kubuntu Developer
KDE Contributor
IRC: sgclark
Email: sgclark at kubuntu.org
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