What does LTS *actually* mean

Tm_T tmt at ubuntu.com
Mon Feb 10 10:10:01 UTC 2014


One more point which is partly what Rafael wrote earlier:

LTS is a release that can be used several (two?) years and to have
upgrade path to next version (LTS) that can be used several (two?)
years.

Shortly put: user can stay in LTS instead of being forced to
distro-upgrade every 6 months

On 10 February 2014 11:03, Harald Sitter <apachelogger at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, February 07, 2014 09:41:29 Harald Sitter wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>
>> wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:27:02 Harald Sitter wrote:
>>> >> Thanks for the thoughts.
>>> >>
>>> >> As I am currently writing a policy on this matter, currently the
>>> >> characteristics of a Kubuntu LTS seem to be:
>>> >>
>>> >> * Long-term KDE SC backport target (PPA)
>>> >> * Long-term security update target (-security)
>>> >> * Long-term stable update target (-proposed) [stable updates policy
>>> >> applies - ensuring time is not wasted]
>>> >> * Extra permissive stable release update handling while LTS=latest stable
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone got any final additions/objections?
>>> >
>>> > What does the last one mean in practical terms?  The stable update
>>> > permissions we have are from the tech board, so we can't modify them
>>> > unilaterally.
>>> tldr: policy creates artificial requirements before being able to do a
>>> SRU that is not a patch release, those requirements are to be ignored
>>> for the first 6 months to facilitate plentiful annoyance fixes in an
>>> LTS release.
>>>
>>> Another policy deals with when to do SRUs, it is intended to restrict
>>> SRUs to the most likely to succeed subset as to avoid time waste. I
>>> was thinking that up to 6 months after LTS release a more lax
>>> restriction (alas, permissive was a badly chosen word) should apply
>>> because in practise we usually push more SRUs into LTS after its
>>> release (compared to regular releases anyway).
>>> To reflect this LTS releases should be encouraged to receive plenty of
>>> SRUs the first 6 months, and for that the requirements for
>>> availability of testers and all that should be disregarded during that
>>> period.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Policies#Misc_.28.28NEW.29.29
>>
>> OK.  How about "additional emphasis on" instead of "extra permissive"?  We
>> can't be more permissive than the SRU team rules allow without additional
>> exceptions from the tech board.
>
> Sure. Those bullet points are not the final version, hence the wording
> is le bad :)
>
> HS
>
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