Fwd [ubuntu-release] Please promote 64-bit images by default on the download pages

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at kitterman.com
Thu Sep 5 16:26:22 UTC 2013


On Thursday, September 05, 2013 21:52:49 Rohan Garg wrote:
> On Thursday 05 Sep 2013 12:11:22 PM Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 05, 2013 21:20:51 Rohan Garg wrote:
> > > > >> Below is the summary of above changes on the ubuntu.com/download
> > > > >
> > > > >pages
> > > > >
> > > > >> for 13.10:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
> > > > >> ==================================
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> In both download boxes (LTS & 13.10):
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> * On the right hand side above the "Choose your flavour" replace:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> "If you have a PC with the Windows 8 logo or UEFI firmware, choose
> > > > >the 64-bit download. Read more"
> > > > >
> > > > >> with
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> "If you have an older PC with less than 2GB of memory, choose the
> > > > >> 32-bit download."
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> * Update the Choose your flavour drop-downs, with first option -
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> default: - 64-bit
> > > > >> - 32-bit (for machines with less than 2GB RAM)
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> When the drop-down is expanded, 64-bit should be listed first.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
> > > 
> > > Quote from original email ^^ ( specifically for the desktop edition )
> > 
> > Thanks.  IIRC, there were Atom 32 systems sold with 2GB of RAM, but I'm
> > not
> > 100% sure.
> > 
> > I particularly don't think this should be done for 12.04 (as this
> > proposes)
> > since multi-arch was in a much less deployed state back then.  For 12.04,
> > I'd also worry about a user wanting to install some third party 32 bit
> > only
> > package and discovering it won't work due to some library not yet
> > converted. They end up then having to reinstall their system (or give up
> > in
> > disgust).
> 
> Your arguments are technically sound, but from a UI POV won't it look
> ugly/inconsistent to have amd64 listed first for 13.10 and i386 for 12.04 ?
> 
> > What advantage does running 64bit give a user that they would care about?
> 
> I can only think of one, albeit a very important one. 32 bit ISO's don't
> come with EFI support, only the 64 bit ISO's support machines with EFI /
> Secure Boot. Hence this must be clarified somehow on the download page,
> else people just get pissed off that Kubuntu won't even boot on their shiny
> new computer.

Agreed.

I think list 32 bit first and say (as Ubuntu does now):

"If you have a PC with the Windows 8 logo or UEFI firmware, choose the 64-bit 
download. Read more"

Then some like to something about "How do I tell if I have UEFI firmware".

Once we get to 14.04, then the "last LTS not so great on multi-arch" problem 
goes away.

Scott K



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