Kubuntu is not for beginners?

[Scott Kitterman]

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 07:48:48 PM Steve Riley wrote:
> On 2013-07-17 22:38:50 Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 06:44:23 PM Steve Riley wrote:
> > > On 2013-07-17 20:38:33 Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 18, 2013 02:22:33 AM Volkan Gezer wrote:
> > > > > Do you know what the reason of not being in Beginner category for
> > > > > Kubuntu
> > > > > is?
> > > > 
> > > > Are we *supposed* to be a beginner distro?
> > > 
> > > I hope not. The world has enough "beginner" distros. Face it: Linux in
> > > general will not appear to the typical beginner audience, frequently
> > > characterized as one's grandmother or elderly parent. Many of us want a
> > > reasonably advanced and sophisticated distro that we can bend to our
> > > will
> > > without having to completely to Arch or Gentoo. Kubuntu fills this role
> > > nicely, IMHO.
> > 
> > I'm really not sure what this entire discussion is about.  We want Kubuntu
> > to be as widely useful as we can manage and that means making it easy for
> > people that are new.  "For beginners" is mostly, IMO, about default
> > install.  Non- beginners are quite capable of installing other stuff they
> > want.  That's where the breadth of the Debian archive that is 75% sync'ed
> > into Ubuntu unmodified really pays off.
> > 
> > Yes, let's make it easy for people that want easy, but that doesn't mean
> > other interests are precluded.  We aren't going to remove options or dumb
> > things down, but you don't have to do that to make it easy.
> 
> Probably this part:
> > remove options or dumb things down
> 
> is often associated with making this easier for newbies. The industry has
> seen a lot of this lately, and I'm not convinced that it actually succeeds
> at the goal of drawing in large numbers of new users.
> 
> I wasn't implying that Kubuntu should abandon whole classes of users.
> Looking back, it's easy to read that into what I wrote.

So let's say we make Kubuntu easy for beginners (as a goal).  We don't do that 
by dumbing it down.

Scott K