Kubuntu PowerPC builds

Jackson Doak noskcaj at ubuntu.com
Fri Aug 2 02:18:55 UTC 2013

As soon as i get my mac mini working i can test xubuntu.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Micah Gersten <micahg at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On 08/01/2013 07:29 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>> Hello Harald,
>> 2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at ubuntu.com>:
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Ho Wan Chan <smartboyhw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> However, a survey conducted by Russian Ubuntu users revealed that 80%
>>>> of users agree to the decision of removing such images.
>>> ~700 votes casted; and the voters had not been properly informed as it
>>> turns out.
>> Well sure, they are not informed of the TECHNICAL side of things. But
>> then, that's what a normal Ubuntu user would think of PowerPC.
>>>> So, I'm suggesting that we should change our attitude, and stop
>>>> building PowerPC images.
>>> As has been done at about every non-virtual UDS since forever. Latest
>>> conclusion (from I think the March Mumble Meeting) was that since
>>> build problems do not really occur (unlike with ARM for example) we
>>> want to keep it around for as long as we have someone testing the ISO.
>>> That being said, I do not know anyone who spends considerable time on
>>> Kubuntu for PowerPC, so I am not sure dropping PowerPC would have any
>>> impact on the developers. I for one don't care.
>> If you don't care, why should we have it then?
>>>> Don't forget, we aren't exactly Lubuntu, who wants to support every
>>>> single old computer.
>>>> Alternate images are what Lubuntu still wants while we have already
> dropped it.
>>>> Why should we drop alternate images if we can properly test it, as in
>>>> coherence to our attitude?
>>> We didn't test them, that's why alternate was dropped.
>> Think about this. We only have 1 tester for PowerPC. How many testers
>> do we have for i386 and amd64? Alternate images  can have a lot of
>> testers. PowerPC will have problems.
>>>> So, what are the pros and cons of removing PowerPC image builds?
>>>> Pros:
>>>> Save testing time on PowerPC builds (and no need to wait for it at all
>>>> before we can release betas or final releases)
>>> AFAIK we'd still have to wait for the other flavors and I don't think
>>> we ever delayed a release for considerable amount of time because an
>>> architecture that is not x86 based wasn't tested.
>> Well, the only flavour who still supports PowerPC except us is
>> Lubuntu, and that's because they really want to support PowerPC, and
>> they actually spend time contacting release teams and testing even the
>> dailies. Not in our case.
>> <snip />
> For what it's worth, I'd like to add PowerPC images back to Xubuntu if
> and when we get a tester to commit to the images.  Kubuntu seems to
> already have that.  I see great value in having something easy to use
> for people to resurrect their old Mac hardware that Apple abandoned.
> Micah
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