Blue Shell PPA for Firefox -- package name confusion

Dale Trombley buzzmandt at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 15:30:21 UTC 2012


well, I'm willing to commit, but I really don't know anything about the
hows. ....

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:

> It's not politics.  For security reasons, packages in the archive aren't
> allowed to autoinstall from PPAs.  The KDE Firefox patches were dropped
> from
> the Ubuntu archive Firefox due to the amount of work it took to keep them
> up
> to date and integrated with new Firefox releases.  If someone from the
> community were willing to commit to do that work, I think it would be worth
> discussing with the Mozilla team about getting them back in.
>
> Scott K
>
> On Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:48:32 AM Dale Trombley wrote:
> > Is it possible to include the ppa as part of the firefox-installer that
> > comes on the iso?  would it be possible for the firefox-installer to
> > install this firefox-kde and have firefox be a separate package?  Could
> > firefox-kde be put on the standard kubuntu servers since it would be a
> > different package than firefox and skip the whole ppa part to begin with?
> > This would be ideal from a user point of view, and would simplify things
> > for the end-user greatly.  I don't know if any of this is possible from a
> > canonical point of view or a kubuntu point of view and the politics
> > therein, but now that we are truely a community version couldn't we just
> do
> > it anyway?
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rohan Garg <rohan16garg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Yep
> > >
> > > www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Scott Kitterman
> <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
> > >> Rohan Garg <rohan16garg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >Alrighty, here's a solution that I propose :
> > >> >
> > >> >Add a firefox-kde meta package that declares a explicit dependency on
> > >> >the
> > >> >firefox from the PPA ( as well as kmozillahelper ). This is the
> > >> >package targeted towards the general users who want Firefox and KDE
> > >> >integration.
> > >> >
> > >> >Other users who want Firefox with KDE integration but still want to
> get
> > >> >security updates can install the specific firefox version from the
> ppa
> > >> >by
> > >> >supplying the version over the apt command line or adding the PPA and
> > >> >upgrading.
> > >> >
> > >> >Thoughts?
> > >> >
> > >> >Best
> > >> >Rohan Garg
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jussi Kekkonen <tmt at ubuntu.com>
> > >> >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Without knowing the details more in depth, is there any particular
> > >> >> reason why the whole Firefox is bundled with the support? Any way
> it
> > >> >> could be a just support provided to "ubuntu-stock" Firefox as
> > >> >
> > >> >separate
> > >> >
> > >> >> package?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 20 September 2012 21:36, Rohan Garg <rohan16garg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > Harald also pointed out that this would pose a security risk as
> we
> > >> >
> > >> >do
> > >> >
> > >> >> > not have releases the same day as ubuntu.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Rohan Garg
> > >> >
> > >> ><rohan16garg at gmail.com>
> > >> >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> As suggested on IRC a couple of minutes, would it be viable to
> > >> >> >> document pinning the package using Muon? Jonathan says that this
> > >> >
> > >> >can
> > >> >
> > >> >> >> be done via muon ( downgrade the package and then pin it to the
> > >> >> >> current version ).
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Best
> > >> >> >> Rohan Garg
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> <ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> +1
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Ovidiu - Florin Bogdan
> > >> >> >>> mob: +40 743-135.018 _
> > >> >> >>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads
> > >> >
> > >> >without a
> > >> >
> > >> >> >>> messy bloodbath.
> > >> >> >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ovidiu.b13
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Steve Riley <
> steve at rileyz.net>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>>> On 2012-09-19 22:34:11 Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan
> > >> >
> > >> ><ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com>
> > >> >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>>> > Does this package contain any elements that are specific to
> > >> >
> > >> >KDE?
> > >> >
> > >> >> >>>> It's Firefox compiled with KDE support. More info here:
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> ...Steve
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
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> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T
> > >> >>
> > >> >>   Ubuntu/KDE developer  tmt at ubuntu.com
> > >> >>
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> > >> I missed the start of this thread.  You're just talking about PPA
> > >> packages, right?
> > >>
> > >> Scott K
> > >>
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