seed changes in quantal

Harald Sitter apachelogger at
Sat Jun 23 11:07:10 UTC 2012

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM, David Edmundson
<david at> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Steve Riley <steve at> wrote:
>> On 2012-06-23 09:01:51 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Steve Riley <steve at> wrote:
>>> > On 2012-06-22 11:28:30 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell at> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Some seed changes I've made:
>>> >> kamoso - requested at UDS and equates to cheese on ubuntu
>>> >> kopete -> kde-telepathy - it's maintained
>>> >
>>> > Both Kamoso and KDE-Telepathy have hard dependencies on GStreamer. Is this
>>> > because they can't work with Phonon, and thus not handle alternate
>>> > backends?
> Our backend libraries are very tied into gstreamer. Telepathy video
> uses farstream, farstream uses GStreamer. Using anything other than
> GStreamer would involve rewriting so much stuff on the lower levels
> that it would be highly impractical.
> KTp does however use phonon to read settings such as which webcam to
> use etc, trying to integrate where possible.
>>> So does qtwebkit/rekonq :P
>> Well, when I switched Phonon's backend from GStreamer to VLC, I was able to
>> purge almost everything GStreamer-related, except for two libgstreamer files
>> which are, you're right, dependencies of qtwebkit.
>> Kamoso wants to bring in the full set of "base" and "good" GStreamer plugins,
>> along with other GNOME-ish stuff like bits of glib-networking, gsettings,
>> gnome-keyring libs.
>> Actually, KTP wants do the same thing. So it would seem like these aren't
>> "pure" KDE packages :)
> glib-networking, gsettings etc have glib dependencies not gnome or
> even GTK ones. Even Qt depends on glib.
> "pure KDE" should relate only to the user experience.
> KTp does not use gnome-keyring since 0.2.

FWIW a gstreamer module might actually be draging that in, at least I
remember that we once were looking into gnome-keyring appearing on the
CD and that was because of gstreamer. Just a guess though.


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