UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

Lydia Pintscher lydia at kde.org
Thu Oct 13 17:02:15 UTC 2011

Markus, would you please at least try to work nicely with KDE's
downstream? This discussion isn't helpful. Thanks!

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 18:17, Markus Slopianka <markus.s at kdemail.net> wrote:
> On Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2011 17:30:28 Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> I don't know anyone involved in Kubuntu
>> development who considers shipping OOo/LO as anything other than a workaround
>> for deficiencies in KOffice.
> LibreOffice without KDE integration works better than with it. Yet you ship it and you are
> so proud that that buggy package was written by a Kubuntu dude.
>> What patches?  We make a few configuration changes and add one widget to the
>> default panel for Ayatana stuff.  In some cases we shipped things a release
>> before upstream did, but the patches are all upstream.
> There is still no Qt release that includes the appmenu patch which entered Kubuntu in
> alpha or beta stage loooooong ago.
> Kubuntu defaulted to Raster rendering in Qt long before it was declared stable in Qt
> (AFAIK only the upcoming Qt 4.8 version officially supports Raster).
>> I don't code in C++, so I am rather prevented.
> Well, others here do.
>> If it was going to take another year to get right, then it shoulnd't have
>> been released.  IMO upstream should release working software.
> Is that so? Bold words from a contributor to a distribution that is widely known to have
> the worst KDE experience out there.
> Fedora and openSUSE chose to make Kontact work better by defaulting to SQLite.
> Kubuntu OTOH can't even decide which package manager to use! My favourite past choice of a
> package manager was Adept which entered Kubuntu in beta stage, never left beta stage, and
> in the KDE4 version even crashed on dist-upgrades, leaving users with a broken system if
> they didn't know how to resume the upgrade process via aptitude. Then Kubuntu defaulted to
> KPackageKit (also at pre-1.0 stage) and now Muon which I have yet to try but judging from
> Kubuntu's past decisions when it comes to package managers, it likely sucks as well
> (although you use a post-1.0 version for a change).
> So, dear downstream. Instead of bitching against the community that secures the income for
> some of you, better roll up your sleeves and start fixing bugs in Kontact 4.8.
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Lydia Pintscher
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