UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

Rohan Garg rohangarg at kubuntu.org
Thu Oct 13 16:31:25 UTC 2011


Hi Steve
Nope, @kdemail.net is a alias given to KDE upstream contributors [1].

[1] http://kdemail.net/

Regards
Rohan Garg
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Steve Stalcup <stalcups at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this is kind of off topic, but does it seem to anyone else that an @
> kdemail.net addy is kind of like a fake @kde.org address?
>
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Markus Slopianka <markus.s at kdemail.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2011 17:30:28 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know anyone involved in Kubuntu
> >> development who considers shipping OOo/LO as anything other than a
> workaround
> >> for deficiencies in KOffice.
> >
> > LibreOffice without KDE integration works better than with it. Yet you
> ship it and you are
> > so proud that that buggy package was written by a Kubuntu dude.
> >
> >> What patches?  We make a few configuration changes and add one widget to
> the
> >> default panel for Ayatana stuff.  In some cases we shipped things a
> release
> >> before upstream did, but the patches are all upstream.
> >
> > There is still no Qt release that includes the appmenu patch which
> entered Kubuntu in
> > alpha or beta stage loooooong ago.
> > Kubuntu defaulted to Raster rendering in Qt long before it was declared
> stable in Qt
> > (AFAIK only the upcoming Qt 4.8 version officially supports Raster).
> >
> >> I don't code in C++, so I am rather prevented.
> >
> > Well, others here do.
> >
> >
> >> If it was going to take another year to get right, then it shoulnd't
> have
> >> been released.  IMO upstream should release working software.
> >
> > Is that so? Bold words from a contributor to a distribution that is
> widely known to have
> > the worst KDE experience out there.
> > Fedora and openSUSE chose to make Kontact work better by defaulting to
> SQLite.
> > Kubuntu OTOH can't even decide which package manager to use! My favourite
> past choice of a
> > package manager was Adept which entered Kubuntu in beta stage, never left
> beta stage, and
> > in the KDE4 version even crashed on dist-upgrades, leaving users with a
> broken system if
> > they didn't know how to resume the upgrade process via aptitude. Then
> Kubuntu defaulted to
> > KPackageKit (also at pre-1.0 stage) and now Muon which I have yet to try
> but judging from
> > Kubuntu's past decisions when it comes to package managers, it likely
> sucks as well
> > (although you use a post-1.0 version for a change).
> >
> > So, dear downstream. Instead of bitching against the community that
> secures the income for
> > some of you, better roll up your sleeves and start fixing bugs in Kontact
> 4.8.
> >
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