UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

[Markus Slopianka]

On Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2011 17:30:28 Scott Kitterman wrote:

> I don't know anyone involved in Kubuntu
> development who considers shipping OOo/LO as anything other than a workaround
> for deficiencies in KOffice.

LibreOffice without KDE integration works better than with it. Yet you ship it and you are 
so proud that that buggy package was written by a Kubuntu dude.

> What patches?  We make a few configuration changes and add one widget to the
> default panel for Ayatana stuff.  In some cases we shipped things a release
> before upstream did, but the patches are all upstream.

There is still no Qt release that includes the appmenu patch which entered Kubuntu in 
alpha or beta stage loooooong ago.
Kubuntu defaulted to Raster rendering in Qt long before it was declared stable in Qt 
(AFAIK only the upcoming Qt 4.8 version officially supports Raster).

> I don't code in C++, so I am rather prevented.

Well, others here do.


> If it was going to take another year to get right, then it shoulnd't have
> been released.  IMO upstream should release working software.

Is that so? Bold words from a contributor to a distribution that is widely known to have 
the worst KDE experience out there.
Fedora and openSUSE chose to make Kontact work better by defaulting to SQLite.
Kubuntu OTOH can't even decide which package manager to use! My favourite past choice of a 
package manager was Adept which entered Kubuntu in beta stage, never left beta stage, and 
in the KDE4 version even crashed on dist-upgrades, leaving users with a broken system if 
they didn't know how to resume the upgrade process via aptitude. Then Kubuntu defaulted to 
KPackageKit (also at pre-1.0 stage) and now Muon which I have yet to try but judging from 
Kubuntu's past decisions when it comes to package managers, it likely sucks as well 
(although you use a post-1.0 version for a change).

So, dear downstream. Instead of bitching against the community that secures the income for 
some of you, better roll up your sleeves and start fixing bugs in Kontact 4.8.