Michal Zajac michal.zajac at
Fri Jun 10 12:31:49 UTC 2011

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger at>wrote:

> On Thursday 09 June 2011 20:57:04 David Edmundson wrote:
> > For the KDE side of things I intend to have a QML powered greeter
> > engine. This will display any QML file as the greeter, and provide all
> > the linking to the LightDM daemon and general models and such.
> >
> > This enables anyone to build a login theme without any compiling, and
> > makes it completely safe for the end user.
> > I've outlined my goals/design/reasoning in more detail here:
> >
> Sounds awesome.
> I'd like to propose two goals though:
> a) accessible
> b) scalibility (should work well with ldap setups with >10 users etc.)
> > There is also a shiny picture of what my demo greeter looks like here:
> > Note the use of
> > plasma widgets.
> > It's not finished, but it shows what I'm doing. I imagine kubuntu will
> > want to Kubuntu-ify it a bit. If anyone has any designs let me know.
> Mockup by sheytan:
> I believe this would be a good default. Something I never liked about the
> current KDM default is that you cannot click somewhere to select your user,
> but instead had to know your user name *eeek*.
> To that extent the user name login box perhaps should be non-editable if
> you
> selected a user and only become editable on click. Just a random thought
> though.
> > This is in development here:
> >
> > a=summary There is a demo theme here:
> >
> > &a=summary
> >
> > It requires the latest master of lightdm to compile (lp:lightdm).
> Could someone get this in a PPA please or perhaps the neon people could get
> weekly builds going?

Sure, I can take a look at it tomorrow.

> > I've made a bit of a start on the KDM settings module, but I don't
> > know any policyKit so will get stuck with that shortly. I'm working on
> > kde's git repos as I want this to be an upstream thing, though the
> > general feedback on my blog was fairly negative so I've not approached
> > anyone yet.
> With polkit we can help. I think just about everyone in the programming
> part
> of the team had done polkit at one point or another.
> As for the comments: you should beware of how important they are. They
> neither
> reflect common opinion nor particularly technical reasoning (especially the
> ones on your post from a quick glance). The only two valuable concerns I
> noticed were: supreme PAM support and enterprise readiness. Both things
> that
> should entirely be secured before going anywhere with LightDM IMHO.
> > Moving forwards, I think I should take discussion about KDE and
> > LightDM off the kubuntu ML and maybe onto the LightDM ML? I'm not sure
> > if I'm bugging people. I also need some opinions from you and to get
> > some more people on board.
> If you feel it makes more sense there... Having stuff here is not
> particularly
> distrubing though, especially since we get free status updates that way :P
> What sort of people do you need?
> regards,
> Harald
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