R: Re: RFC: Switch to Firefox and a 1.5 GB image

LucaTringali TRINGALINVENT at libero.it
Thu Dec 8 08:36:25 UTC 2011

LibreOffice is important: just think about an office or a school that wants to 
use Kubuntu. They will need Calc, or Writer, or Impress... Calligra (the new 
KOffice) is not only so good as LO, but it's also less famous: the common 
Windows user that came to Kubuntu could be disoriented.
Rekonq has too many bugs and it does not support plugins, like Firefox. Users 
that use to have, for example, DownloadHelper on their Firefox to download 
youtube videos, can not do this with Rekonq or Chromium.

The reality is that the CD image is not enough. That's why I'm proposing to 
deliver a CD image with just the needed (maybe already configured for old 
computers: in fact, today, all the new computers have a DVD drive or can be 
booted with a USB pen, and this makes the CD image unuseful for them).
Then release a fully functional Kubuntu version on DVD, with everything the 
user can need ready (just legal things). Actually, Kubuntu is not so much more 
than a normal Ubuntu with KDE. When the Unity project started I liked it 
because meant that Ubuntu is not only a group of packagers, but it's also a 
group of programmers that are going to improve the GNU/Linux desktop. We don't 
need to rewrite KDE, but we need to adjust the little imperfections. For 
example, the fact that Firefox is not well integrated into KDE: we should write 
the needed extensions (actually they already exist, we just need to mantain 
The only thing that is continously criticized for KDE is that it misses the 
"labor limae". I think Kubuntu should not simply package the KDE "as it is" but 
we should improve the user experience with this little things.

An idea, for example, could be to add in the system settings, an automatic 
procedure to install from internet the proprietary drivers-codecs-plugins (like 
the flash player we were talking about, the Java-JRE, etc...).

Luca Tringali

>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: pan.shizhu at gmail.com
>Data: 08/12/2011 8.33
>A: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion"<kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>Ogg: Re: RFC: Switch to Firefox and a 1.5 GB image
>On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Rafael Belmonte <eaglescreen at gmail.com> 
>> I think LibreOffice is very important also, and in my opinion Koffice
>> is not as good as LibreOffice
>The same statement also applies to Firefox vs Rekonq. (Firefox is very
>important, Rekonq is not as good as Firefox.)
>Then what's the point of Koffice and Rekonq? They are small in size,
>since all kde library dependencies are already installed.
>I still wonder how Ubuntu Unity version manages to install LibreOffice
>and Firefox and Thunderbird into one 700MB cd, can we do similiar
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