frustrations w/ KDE 4.4

[Scott Kitterman]

"Sebastian Kügler" <sebas at kde.org> wrote:

>Hi Jonathan,
>
>On Tuesday 12 January 2010 04:48:32 Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>> I am currently running the KDE 4.4 RC packages and would like to report
>> some of the frustrations that I am having with my system...
>
>Frustrations? Is that because you're running a test release and expect production 
>quality? Your email sounds a bit like that.
>
>> 1.  plasma-desktop does not start automatically:  Every time I
>> login/restart my computer I am forced to manually start plasma-desktop. 
>> I've noticed that Lucid does not have this problem.  The problem started
>> w/ KDE 4.4 Beta 2 and continues in the RC
>
>I recall some left-over from plasma-netbook in one of the autostart folders causing 
>this. I'll check what it was and get back to you. Is it possible that you ran a tech 
>preview of plasma-netbook? That could've left traces in your homedir that cause this 
>problem.
>
>> 2.  plasma-desktop crashes continuously:  I don't know exactly what is
>> going on here but it seems no matter what I am doing plasma-desktop
>> crashes and I get a friendly notification.  I've noticed this can happen
>> when I am not doing anything or when I using it pretty heavily.
>
>Please install debug packages and supply a backtrace. Without it's just hand-waving, 
>with backtrace, we can confirm what's wrong. There has been a bug in Qt (will be 
>fixed with 4.6.1) that made the taskmanager crash heavily, quite likely you're 
>hitting that one.
>
>> 3.  krunner crashes:  krunner (alt+f2) crashes every other time I launch
>> the application... it often crashes when I'm trying to launch
>> plasma-desktop to get started
>
>KRunner has been very crashy due to a problem in libc. It's been fixed in newer libc 
>versions, not sure which one you're running. I recall that we'll likely ship a 
>workaround for this one in 4.4.0
>
>Also, please install debug packages and supply a backtrace when reporting crashes.
>
>> 4.  notifications: For some reason after a restart today my notifications
>> are taking up almost the entire bottom third of my screen.  for example
>> when i receive a notification from quassel it takes up the entire taskbar
>> area...
>
>I haven't seen this one. Did you check bugs.kde.org if it's known?
>
>> While it seems like quite the improvement, layout wise, usability, etc
>> there is too much going wrong that a large part of me wishes I could go
>> back to KDE 4.3 and a fresh install of Kubuntu.
>
>The whole point of a beta (and -rc) is testing, right? The KDE announcement says, in 
>bold letters, that you shouldn't use it as production system, so don't assume it's 
>ready for that.
>
>> BTW Lucid looks a lot better
>
>Newer Qt, updated libc, maybe? :)

Libc is fixed in lucid and there is a fix in karmic-proposed.

Scott K