No indicator message in Message Indicator

Celeste Lyn Paul celeste at
Fri Feb 12 16:06:18 GMT 2010

2010/2/12 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau at>:
> Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
>> 2010/2/12 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau at>:
>>> Hi,
>>> I have been working a bit on the Message Indicator (MI) Plasma applet
>>> lately.
>>> I changed its behavior a bit: the applet is no longer disabled when no
>>> MI-enabled application is running. Instead, clicking on it show a
>> Remind me again why it is visible if there are no MI-enabled
>> applications running? Can it be hidden/invisible until an application
>> is running?
> Because if it's invisible it's going to be odd when you add the widget
> to a panel (or to the desktop) and it just disappear. It would also make
> it hard to remove it if you can't see it.

Application icons in the status bar appear and disappear all the time,
I don't think that is weird. I think of the MI as a service, and if it
isn't applicable then it shouldn't be there (to be fair, I feel the
same way about the KDE notifications indicator as well. I don't think
it should be visible if you don't have any current messages or
messages in the queue).

However, moving and removing it on the panel is an issue. Do you know
if you could make the widget visible only in edit mode? The
visualization might be tricky to get across the widget is there, just
invisible. Maybe desaturated icon? Hmm.

> This is mitigated by the fact that one can now embed applets in the
> systemtray applet, but if you want to run the MI outside of the
> systemtray it is still a problem.
> Aurélien
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Celeste Lyn Paul
KDE Usability Project
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