Message Indicator: Opt-in or Opt-out

Roderick B. Greening roderick.greening at
Wed Sep 30 16:07:49 BST 2009


The idea was that Gnome apps are patched to expect this behaviour. If we do 
not have the applet, then any user using Kubuntu will experience broken apps 
by default for Gnome patched apps. It was the lesser of two evils as we want 
to keep KDE behaviour by default for our users.

We will definately have to blog about and wiki-ize the heck out of this so 
everyone understands the Ayatana bits and what they can do to enable or 
disable, etc. 

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at> 
> > It was my understanding from the last Kubuntu meeting that the decision
> > was the we would provide the message indicator widget on the panel by
> > default because there are non-KDE apps in the repository that have been
> > patched to unconditionally expect and indicator to be present, but that
> > we would not enable indicator support in Kubuntu desktop apps and let
> > users opt-in.
> >
> > I am checking this because at least Kmail defaults to on (even for
> > upgrades). See
> >
> >
> > Before I 'fix' this, I wanted to check and make sure my understanding of
> > the decision was correct.
> >
> > Scott K
> I guess I missed this meeting, but I think it's silly to have the
> indicator there and apps patched but have the functionality disabled.
> I think it should either be all enabled, or all off, but I guess it's
> been decided.  I also think it's a bug if an app expects some applet
> to be there and crashes otherwise -- is that the case for these
> non-KDE apps?
> ~ Yuriy
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