indicator applet after upgrade

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Wed Sep 9 16:54:53 BST 2009

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:11:46 +0200 Harald Sitter <apachelogger at> 
>yesterday I upgraded from jaunty to karmic and for whatever reason
>(most likely not implement, though I wonder how to properly implement
>this) the indicator applet did not get added to my plasma-desktop. BUT
>k-d-s currently deactivates the trays for konvi and kopete which in
>that particular combination is quite fatal. Kopete (probably due to
>the indicator plugin) does not quit when I click the X on the window
>deco, but continues running in background ... how to get it back?
>So, here some thoughts on that:
>a) the indicator integrations should try to connect to the applet and
>only if that works out do their magic (that is if kopete really
>continues running because of the plugin)
>b) nuke the no-tray settings from k-d-s
>c) the indicator integrations should if successfully connected to the
>applet et all deactivate the tray icon from within the application
>(i.e. without any configs set... at least none that are not unique to
>the ingration, such as if the kopete plugin was configurable to hide
>or not hide the tray icon)
>Only if the indicator specific code takes care of the tray icon
>disappearance we can provide sensible user experience and I suppose
>that is what ayatana is trying to improve :P
The general rationale for including MI in Kubuntu is that some non-KDE apps have been patched 
to expect it in Ubuntu.  In our by default configuration I do not think that Kubuntu should get 
ahead of our upstreams.  I don't mind patches for opt-in use of MI.

Scott K

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