Project Timelord -- Initial consideration

Ralph Janke txwikinger at
Thu Oct 22 14:07:03 BST 2009

Hi Jonathan,

sounds like a good idea. One thing that I have not found on that given 
document (at least not explicitly), is an improvement of automatic 
testing. IMHO, one of the biggest problem we have (and actually this can 
be extended to all *buntu distros and highly likely to a lot of distros 
in general) is always those nagging regressions every release. And since 
we are so much into cloud computing now, maybe we should think about how 
to use "clouds" for this issue as much as possible.

I would like to see some way of be able to submit, manage etc test cases 
(in form of specification and implementation) that would help to raise a 
lot of those regression far earlier in the release cycle, and because 
they can run lots of times during the cycle also those problems that are 
re-introduced later in the cycle.

I know that this is not the solution for everything, however, I would 
hope such efforts would make a clear improvement in QA. It can also be 
interdependent with the bug triage that is mentioned in the document, 
since a part of bug triage could be an effort to develop a test case for 
each particular bug (where applicable) that is raised.

Just an idea,
Ralph (txwikinger)

Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> Hello fellow Kubuntu developers,
> Kubuntu, as we know, is a fairly good KDE distribution. (Otherwise we would 
> not be here reading this mailing list) However, things are not perfect. In 
> fact, things could be much better.
> "But what is Project Timelord?", you may ask, "and how does it relate to 
> Kubuntu's problems?" Both are good questions. Project Timelord is the 
> brainchild of the Kubuntu developer legend Harald Sitter; the culmination of 
> several weeks of brainstorming by a handful of Kubuntu developers, focused 
> towards identifying problems Kubuntu currently faces and solutions for these 
> problems.
> And now, we wish to bring Project Timelord to the attention of the greater 
> Kubuntu development community for input. You can find the internal developer 
> release announcement that outlines the purpose and proposed solutions of 
> Project Timelord at:
> If it is decided that we would like to adopt Project Timelord as a goal to 
> work towards over the next few cycles, we can start towards prioritizing the 
> solutions and work towards forming a roadmap to implementing these solutions. 
> This way we can all stay in the know of what is going on even if we are unable 
> to attend UDS, and those attending UDS will have a unified goal to work 
> towards as they flesh out the implementation details for Kubuntu 10.04, Lucid 
> Lynx.
> The purpose of this email is to generate discussion to determine whether the 
> Kubuntu developer community wishes to adopt this plan or not, as well as to 
> provide input on the brainstormed solutions. Until it is decided, we would 
> politely ask you to not announce the existence of the project to the general 
> public. We would like to hear your thoughts on the initiative here, though. :)
> Thanks in advance,
> Jonathan "JontheEchidna" Thomas.

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