Updates, upgrades, and PPA's, oh my....

[Kwan Chan]

I think Kubuntu should provide kde bug fixed release(like kde 4.3.4, kde
4.3.3) as stable packages like opensuse does.
Because these kde release is meant for slight improvement. I mean kde 4.3.4
should be more stable than kde 4.3.2, however, ubuntu user have to upgrade
from a ppa repository. And upgrading to the kde 4.3.4 makes Kubuntu even
more unstable. Then a kde+ubuntu fan is actually losing the meaning of
upgrading to the latest stable kde release.
For me, I happened to experience that. After a fresh installation of
kubuntu, I added the ppa repository for kde 4.3.4 then did a dist-upgrade.
Plasma can't even startup after reboot.

Is it because of the poor quality of the kde packages for kubuntu?
Are the kde packages on the ppa repository is directly copy from debian
sid?

not blaming, just try to make Kubuntu better.

Kwan

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Clay Weber <claydoh at midmaine.com> wrote:

> I  think we need a more clearly defined definition on what sort of packages
> go
> into which ppa.
>
> Currently, there are 5 ppa archives listed for Kubuntu:
>
> 1) Kubuntu Backports:
> "Backports of new versions of KDE and major KDE apps for Kubuntu which are
> not
> yet tested enough to go to Ubuntu Backports."
>
> This seems to contain Amarok 2.2.1 and Koffice for karmic, and KDE 4.3.2,
> digikam 1.0.0-beta, and Amarok 2.1 for Jaunty
>
>
> 2) Kubuntu Beta Backports
> "Backports of beta versions of KDE and major KDE apps"
>
> Holds Koffice 2.1 beta (or rc ?) for Karmic
>
>
> 3) Kubuntu Experimental
> "Testing ground for unfinished Kubuntu packages."
>
> This one has a small number of testing packages ; kobby, plasma-widget-
> network-manager, and qwit  for Jaunty; qt4-x11,  phonon-backends for karmic
>
> 4) Kubuntu Updates
> "Updates for Kubuntu releases which are due to go to Ubuntu Updates. Mostly
> KDE point releases."
>
> This one has KDE 4.3.4 and Amarok 2.2.1 for Karmic
>
> 5) Kubuntu Package Staging (DON'T USE)
> "For the love of the blue gears, DO NOT USE.
>  This is where we build and stage the packages for final PPA releases, so
> this
> PPA will never have usable packages"
>
> This holds KDE SC 4.4 Beta1 packages for karmic
>
>
> The ppa descriptions , while fairly clear, still leave room for doubts,
> questions, and confusion.
>
> Amarok 2.2.1 for karmic is in 2 different PPAs
>
> Many people are simply copy/pasting ppa repos form forum or blog posts
> without
> knowing what they are getting. Or simply ignoring the warnings pertaining
> to
> Staging PPA in particular.
>
> What I would like to do is create documentation on this subject specifying
> which PPAs are used for which purpose, and for which packages. Perhaps
> adding
> more information to each PPA's descriptions as well.
>
> So I would like to ask for developers' feedback and clarification on the
> purpose for each PPA, as well as some basic definitions we want to use.
>
> For exampple: what exactly do we mean by a 'point release'? Is this 4.3.x?
> or
> 4.x?
>
> Should Kubuntu Backports perhaps be more clearly defined as a testing
> ground so
> that the packages from their can hopefully be added to the official Ubuntu
> Backports repository?
>
>
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