KDE 4.x and the "Leave" menu

Terence Simpson stdin at stdin.me.uk
Sat Sep 13 16:04:55 BST 2008

Christian A. Reiter wrote:
> Am Samstag, 13. September 2008 09:29:20 schrieb Terence Simpson:
>>> That is configurable in System Settings in the Session Management area.
>>> Fixing this is on the devs' todo list
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo it just hasn't been done yet.
>> It's not as as easy to fix as you think, if you disable it globally then
>> those that use the Application Launcher Menu (rather than kickoff) can't
>> logout (or shutdown/restart).
>> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/187450
> I don't believe that.
> I think it's not about "easy to implement" but a decicion.
> You can't tell me that is more difficult to implement than all this exciting 
> high siphisticated Plasma stuff.
Kubuntu did not implement plasma, KDE did.
> Just a clean decicion, and planning HOW KDE should work.
> ATM it feels like the Kubuntu devs have no exact plan how to do it, because, 
> without any doubt:
> IF kickoff is default (ant that's gonna be) THEN the current behaviour is 
> extremely useless.
Maybe, but it *works*
> Clicking to KDE-Button -> red Logout button -> shutdown -> and then having 
> another dialog asking me if I want to shutdown, log off, restart or what 
> else, is a usability failure.
> And no, waitint 30sec (or in Kubuntu even 60) is NO answer to that.
You can disable that yourself from System Settings if it bugs you.
> Possible solutions:
> 1. (hmmm) 
> If kickoff is standard, then make it useable easily -> get rid of the second 
> dialog (even when the dialog is beautiful IMO)
That's really up to KDE, not us.
> 2. (bad) 
> get rid of the various options in kickoff. Just one "exit" button, leading to 
> the dialog
> 3. let the dialog just be a confirmation of the chosen action, NOT offering 
> all the others too.
Again, System Settings has options for that IIRC.
> ... and some others.
> But the current behaviour will just confuse people.
> Cheers,
> Chris

Terence Simpson

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