Feeling like a 2nd class citizen

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at kitterman.com
Tue Nov 27 03:37:07 GMT 2007


On Monday 26 November 2007 22:21, reuben firmin wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2007 7:18 PM, Corey Cohen <coreymon77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 26, 2007 10:17 PM, Corey Cohen <coreymon77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 26, 2007 9:52 PM, Jonathan Jesse < jjesse at iserv.net> wrote:

Top posting fixed.

> > > > Good evening,
> > > >
> > > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > figure out which one would be better to post to.
> > > >
> > > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. 
> > > > I don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am
> > > > running
> > > > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web
> > > > is
> > > > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer.
> > > >
> > > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror
> > > > and have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting
> > > > sick of
> > > > trying to deal with.
> > > > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the
> > > > images
> > > > or all of the links to work.  I go to a travel site to book airplane
> > > > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am
> > > > told
> > > > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash
> > > > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until
> > > > I click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts
> > > > spinning and
> > > > I get the page I want.  Another fun problem is when I increase the
> > > > font
> > > > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page
> > > > that
> > > > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know
> > > > what I'm
> > > > filling out.
> > > >
> > > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? 
> > > > Or should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just
> > > > work"
> > > > there.
> > > use firefox, it works much much better. and NEVER say the "x" word
> > > again! :P
> > >
> > btw, you should be using firefox in your vm too anyways
> >
> Does anybody on this list really use konqueror as their primary browser? Is
> there a good reason that kubuntu can't start shipping firefox in addition?
> It's all about the user experience, right? (BTW, I love konqueror, but
> strictly as a file manager / random-net-protocol client.)
>
Yes I do.  I'm not sure why, but I mostly use Firefox on my Kubuntu Dapper 
desktop and Konqueror on my Kubuntu Gutsy laptop as my general browser.  If I 
have a problem, I try the other.  Finally, I do have IE set up with Crossover 
Office on my desktop, but there is exactly one site I use that I need that 
for.

I find things to like about both Firefox and Konqueror and don't particularly 
find one "better" than the other.  

I should probably note that I'm an old curmudgeon and mostly read actual web 
pages (my laptop doesn't have Flash of any variety installed and I consider 
that a feature).  YMMV.

Scott K



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