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Rajeev J Sebastian
rajeev_jsv at dinamis.com
Sun May 29 12:17:45 CDT 2005
> Sounds a little like reinventing the wheel. Between ivman, hotplug,
> udev, hal, dbus & friends there shouldn't be (much) need to add more
Problem is, if we don't do it, Kubuntu users will be stuck with
hal-device-manager, or some C++ version of it (which IMHO i really don't
agree with). Otoh, I really would like to get pmount to work, but so far
nothing I have tried has got it up and running.
Plus, why would a system like this be "re-inventing the wheel" ? Other than
ivman, such a program would have little in common with the other packages.
And, wrt ivman, we have to edit XML (ugh) files, with a limited scope of
applicability (DBUS events).
Not that there is anything wrong with XML, but generally describing processes
that execute based on some condition (when pen drive available, mount it,
check hardware-spec/filesystem and start appropriate software after
confirming with user) is basically what a programming language is for, and
what a beautiful language python is :)
Plus, the sheer number of such rules (conditions+processes) almost requires an
easy-to-read, easy-to-change, easy-to-understand system.
Making this system in python would be i think, quite straightforward, and deep
integration with KDE (and other systems) would also be possible. (For e.g.,
modify sources.list, if a cdrom with a specific file-system structure was
And, it seems, not quite everything makes it into DBUS - for e.g., my monitor
doesnt show up in hal-device-manager. Not to mention, the lack of a KDE
version of hal-device-manager.
Of course this leads to the second problem: over-configurability (like Control
Centre). But that is a question of the design. Perhaps, we can make it
> ... maybe, as I said, the only thing that should be added is
> pmount support for fixed hard disk.
But this *should* work out of the box. But it doesnt. Of course, it is truly a
problem to be solved, and so is next on my agenda.
Rajeev J Sebastian
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