media:/ shows unnecessary media

Rajeev J Sebastian rajeev_jsv at
Sun May 29 12:17:45 CDT 2005

> Sounds a little like reinventing the wheel. Between ivman, hotplug,
> udev, hal, dbus & friends there shouldn't be (much) need to add more
> stuff 

Problem is, if we don't do it, Kubuntu users will be stuck with 
hal-device-manager, or some C++ version of it (which IMHO i really don't 
agree with). Otoh, I really would like to get pmount to work, but so far 
nothing I have tried has got it up and running.

Plus, why would a system like this be "re-inventing the wheel" ? Other than 
ivman, such a program would have little in common with the other packages. 
And, wrt ivman, we have to edit XML (ugh) files, with a limited scope of 
applicability (DBUS events). 

Not that there is anything wrong with XML, but generally describing processes 
that execute based on some condition (when pen drive available, mount it, 
check hardware-spec/filesystem and start appropriate software after 
confirming with user) is basically what a programming language is for, and 
what a beautiful language python is :)

Plus, the sheer number of such rules (conditions+processes) almost requires an 
easy-to-read, easy-to-change, easy-to-understand system.

Making this system in python would be i think, quite straightforward, and deep 
integration with KDE (and other systems) would also be possible. (For e.g., 
modify sources.list, if a cdrom with a specific file-system structure was 

And, it seems, not quite everything makes it into DBUS - for e.g., my monitor 
doesnt show up in hal-device-manager. Not to mention, the lack of a KDE 
version of hal-device-manager.

Of course this leads to the second problem: over-configurability (like Control 
Centre). But that is a question of the design. Perhaps, we can make it 
better ?

> ... maybe, as I said, the only thing that should be added is 
> pmount support for fixed hard disk.
But this *should* work out of the box. But it doesnt. Of course, it is truly a 
problem to be solved, and so is next on my agenda.

Rajeev J Sebastian

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