[Bug 1175299] Re: kwin Plastik decoration displays the help-button wrong

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On 2013-05-01T19:23:51+00:00 Allo wrote:

With the plastik window-deco the [?] button is replaces by some
horizontal space (like a seperator, if you configure the window-
buttons), when its not used, while it was replaces by nothing at all in
kde 4.9.x.

I think the KDE 4.9 behaviour is more desirable.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Use Plastik as kwin Style
2. Configure your buttons to include [?] (Help-Button)
3. Open a window with, and one without help-button
Actual Results:  
too much space between the button before and the button after the help-button on windows, where there is no help-button

Expected Results:  
just no button at all.

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workspace/+bug/1175299/comments/0

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On 2013-05-01T19:25:52+00:00 Allo wrote:

Created attachment 79609
screenshot of the problem

At top you see the problem. At bottom everything is alright, because
this window has a help-button.

The horizontal space after the button / the horizontal space replacing
the button is intentional and configured by me. I wanted both window-
decoration to look like the lower one.

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workspace/+bug/1175299/comments/1

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On 2013-05-01T19:35:09+00:00 Thomas-luebking wrote:

No idea whether the current behaviour was intended, but in general fixed
offsets are a good idea because they prevents you from actually having
to inspect the button to figure which it is on this window.

As an alternative i'd suggest a "disabled" look instead of a spacer
(keeping also the general look)

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workspace/+bug/1175299/comments/2

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On 2013-05-01T19:37:50+00:00 Allo wrote:

Ah, for the title/description: I tested it, the problem seems only to
happen with "Plastik" Decoration. Some decoration do not support the
help-button at all, others get it right.

I do not think a disabled look is appropriate, because the general
behaviour (for example on windows and other WMs) is to completely hide
the button, when its not available. This is useful, because most windows
do not have this button, and only some utility-windows do have it.

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workspace/+bug/1175299/comments/3

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On 2013-05-01T19:56:05+00:00 Thomas-luebking wrote:

(In reply to comment #3)

> This is useful, because most windows do not have
> this button, and only some utility-windows do have it.

I rather meant keeping fixed positions in general.
Windows does not, but eg. OSX does (while i doubt there's a "what's this" button, but unless there's only the close button, either the minimize or zoom button will just be disabled)

As for the "what's this" and some other buttons, i'd strictly promote
the Bespin approach to stack them in one button and scroll through them
at (rare) demand ;-)

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** Changed in: kdebase-workspace
       Status: Unknown => New

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