[Bug 550631] Re: kubuntu-desktop package still include hal in dependecy list

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On 2010-03-06T03:11:21+00:00 pejakm wrote:

Version:            (using KDE 4.4.1)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Archlinux Packages

All major distributions are starting to remove HAL, since it is
deprecated. Examples are Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy) and
Fedora (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/HalRemoval). New version
of Xorg server (1.7.99.901) has a working hotplugging with udev, many
other applications are turning to udev or something like. I (and
possibly others) would liked to see solid without HAL.

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On 2010-03-06T03:15:52+00:00 pejakm wrote:

OpenSuse also has plans to remove HAL:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-
devel/2009-April/000140.html

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On 2010-03-07T15:29:57+00:00 Samuli Suominen wrote:

*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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On 2010-03-29T23:11:36+00:00 Rahul-schmizz wrote:

So what happens to KDE users when they upgrade to xorg-server-1.8? Will
we have to keep hal installed and running or will things start to break?

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On 2010-04-04T02:29:28+00:00 Rahul-schmizz wrote:

So, I did install xorg-server-1.8.0 - everything works properly as long
as it is not related to hal. Volume control keys, for example, do not
work.

If the KDE devs need some help with this, I am ready to offer any help
that is possible for me. I would love to see KDE keep up to date with
the latest developments and not lag behind in any sense.

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On 2010-04-05T03:54:04+00:00 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:

+1

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On 2010-04-14T10:44:45+00:00 Matthias Gehre wrote:

+1

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On 2010-04-18T00:11:24+00:00 Misbakh-Soloviev Vadim A wrote:

+1

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On 2010-04-20T02:06:05+00:00 Nelchael wrote:

PowerDevil is also heavily affected by lack of HAL.

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On 2010-04-20T06:31:30+00:00 Misbakh-Soloviev Vadim A wrote:

And "Recent devices" plasmoid - too :(

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On 2010-04-30T16:18:48+00:00 Vit wrote:

+1024

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On 2010-05-19T11:56:57+00:00 RussianNeuroMancer wrote:

So, what developers say?
It's possible for KDE 4.6?

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On 2010-06-21T14:41:59+00:00 Christoph-maxiom wrote:

*** Bug 242326 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2010-10-10T13:17:44+00:00 dE wrote:

As of the current time, I think this should no longer be an
enhancement... it's a bug, a major one.

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On 2010-10-10T13:21:49+00:00 Shaumya wrote:

(In reply to comment #13)
> As of the current time, I think this should no longer be an enhancement... it's
> a bug, a major one.

Yes as it seems that everybody have either already moved away from hal
or are on their way. KDE seems to be the last piece still using hal.

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On 2010-10-10T20:59:29+00:00 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:

Updating bug to reflect consensus.

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On 2010-10-10T22:37:33+00:00 Pino Toscano wrote:

> Updating bug to reflect consensus.

... of users, not of developers. Avoid playing with severities, please.

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On 2010-10-10T22:53:45+00:00 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:

Developers don't care about depreciating HAL!?!?

What?

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On 2010-10-13T13:42:51+00:00 the_madman wrote:

(In reply to comment #17)
> Developers don't care about depreciating HAL!?!?
> 
> What?

Nobody said that: they simply said that the developers haven't chimed in
on whether they consider this a bug or a feature. That's not to say they
don't consider it a bug, just that they haven't said they do yet, so
it's better not to mess with the bug report's status until they say
"Yup, it's a bug and it's being worked on".

By design, Solid should be able to allow this quite easily: develop new
plugins for DeviceKit (uPower/uDisk) and make them default. Done. No?

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On 2010-10-13T15:13:06+00:00 Lukasas wrote:

news from planetkde.org:

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One of the objectives that the solid team is currently working on, is the deprecation/removing of HAL as KDE dependency. We hope to accomplish it for KDE 4.6, but of course at the moment it is just that, a wish.

Anyhow the complete remove is now a step closer, thanks to Dario Freddi
and Lukas Tinkl I just committed the "PowerDevil 2 UPower" backend.
Right now, it is build by default but is not used if the hal backend is
compiled too, so in case you want to test it you have to edit
powerdevilupowerbackend.desktop and set InitialPreference = 20 (lower
than the hal one).

Small entry for a small thing, but small things matter don’t they?
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source: http://www.afiestas.org/one-step-closer-towards-a-kde-hal-free/

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On 2010-10-26T18:31:51+00:00 Lukasas wrote:

news from linuxology:

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Well, since the version 4.5.73, KDE is starting to move it’s Solid Framework’s dependency on HAL to Udisks. The next major kpart will be Powerdevil, that will be ported to Upower (not so sure about *this* on yet). Good news ? Yes it is.
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source: http://linuxology.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/yes-we-like-hal-less-
systems-ep2/

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On 2010-12-11T23:05:04+00:00 Andreas Eckstein wrote:

Created attachment 54441
Make building HAL backend for solid optional

By introducing the WITH_HAL conditional, building solid's HAL backend
can be switched off, in order to expose bugs that stem from relying on
HAL specific behavior:

cmake -DWITH_HAL=OFF .

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On 2010-12-12T04:30:25+00:00 dE wrote:

If I remember correctly, Gentoo did have an option to compile without
hal, once I did that (as expected) hot plugging stopped working.

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On 2010-12-12T10:52:09+00:00 Andreas Eckstein wrote:

It doesn't now, but with 4.5.85, hotplugging is working fine via
udev/udisks.

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On 2010-12-28T15:28:00+00:00 ervin wrote:

I forgot to add "BUG: 229643" in my commit message apparently. Anyway,
that one is fixed since r1206281, so it'll be in 4.6.0.

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On 2010-12-28T17:59:06+00:00 Christoph-maxiom wrote:

>From today's trunk of cmake in kdelibs:

> [...]
> -- Found UDev: /usr/include 
> -- Building Solid UDev backend.
> -- Building Solid HAL backend.
> -- Building Solid UPower backend.
> -- Building Solid UDisks backend.
> -- Building Solid fstab backend.

So it looks like there are some remains of HAL code in kdelibs.

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On 2010-12-28T18:07:30+00:00 ervin wrote:

Yes, it's still compiled in for the time being. It's not activated until
you use a specific environment variable to activate it on a per
application basis though. This way we also cover legacy systems (there's
still a few out there).

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On 2010-12-30T16:11:45+00:00 dE wrote:

Ok... GOOD!

Thanks devs!

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On 2010-12-30T16:16:02+00:00 RussianNeuroMancer wrote:

But K3b is still depend on HAL?

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