[Bug 181300] Re: Kubuntu East Asian language display and input not as good as Ubuntu

Yao Ziyuan yaoziyuan at gmail.com
Sat Feb 9 00:24:11 UTC 2008


On Feb 9, 2008 8:10 AM, Ziyuan Yao <yaoziyuan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now I have found a solution to this bug:
>
> Currently there are two distros that can make East Asian language
> input available to the user's KDE desktop as a tray icon if the user
> chooses/adds a East Asian language in his system, WITHOUT FURTHER
> CONFIGURATION BY THE USER:
>
> (1) Ubuntu, with which if you first add Chinese language support in
> its System > Administration and enable "Input of Complex Scripts" (now
> you will have the scim icon on system tray) and then install
> kubuntu-desktop and then log into a KDE session, you will
> automatically be able to input East Asian characters by pressing
> Ctrl+Space to activate scim (in Ubuntu's KDE environment, there is no
> scim icon on the system tray, but Ctr+Space still can invoke a SCIM
> input method);
>
> (2) Fedora 8 KDE Live CD, with which if you add Chinese language
> support in its Control Center, you will automatically see the scim
> icon added to the system tray. And Ctrl+Space can invoke a SCIM input
> method.
>
> These two distros share the same way to their succcess of making SCIM
> available with zero user configuration:
> 1. They don't use SKIM at all (unlike Kubuntu);
> 2. The SCIM tray icon they make available belongs to SCIM itself, and
> SCIM itself has a GTK front-end. So this tray icon is actually a GTK
> applet that runs on the KDE taskbar.
> 3. The remaining task is figure out how to configure SCIM so that the
> end user can see such a SCIM tray icon. I leave this problem to you
> guys...

First, you guys should refer to Ubuntu's procedure of installing and
configuring SCIM. This way at least you can make SCIM available to
Kubuntu's KDE desktop when the user presses Ctrl+Space. It would be a
bonus if you can further figure out how Fedora 8 KDE LiveCD manages to
put the SCIM tray icon to the KDE taskbar. This should also be easy
because by running "scim -d" (without running SKIM at the same time)
you should be able to see SCIM entering the system tray. The hard part
is to make sure when left-clicking this icon you can see a non-empty
list of languages and for each language, a submenu of available input
methods. The Chinese/Japanese user communities should already have
figured out the configuration procedure for this. Ask them.

>
> How to verify that you have successfully figured out an automatic
> configuration procedure?
> (1) There should be a "keyboard"-like tray icon;
> (2) Right clicking this tray icon should lead to a popup menu showing
> "Configure SCIM", "Reload Configuration", "Stick Window", "Hide
> Toolbar", "Help", "Exit" (translated from Chinese translations).
> (3) Left clicing this tray icon should see a list of available
> languages and for each language a submenu of available input methods.
> IT SHOULD NOT BE AN EMPTY MENU.
>

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Kubuntu East Asian language display and input not as good as Ubuntu
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